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March 24, 2024 - Louder Than Crowder

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EPISODE 25: PATRIOTIC NARCISSIST (MARCH 11th, 2024)

We'll folks...Byron brought back something from SXSW. Not ideal and a little distracting...but thank goodness Dennis was able to step-in with our second investigation into The Daily Wire's award winning transphobe, Matt Walsh. Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy

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	These folks are right.
	Thanks for watching.
	Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast.
	Louder with Crowder.
	My name's Byron.
	I'm joined tonight by Healthy Dennis.
	I'm here and I'm not coughing.
	And Jared.
	Despite having this man stay with me, I am also feeling very fine.
	What happens at South by Southwest doesn't necessarily stay in Austin, Texas.
	Who knew that breathing the air of a quarter million folks would leave me having contracted COVID-19?
	Okay, a little Steven Crowder over here.
	Are you listening to Duncan Sheik, at least?
	I am fully breathing.
	No, I feel fine.
	I'm just happy I got home before I got sick.
	That would have been some uncomfortable flights, or I could have had to, like, board up Jared's guest room.
	That would have been super fun.
	That would have been awesome.
	Stuff a bunch of towels at the door so the air can't get out.
	I got some new GameCube games in there.
	That's true.
	I didn't get the opportunity to.
	Like newly developed or just new to Byron?
	Well, I mean new to my collection.
	I don't know.
	SSX Tricky, I found a copy of.
	Ooh, there you go.
	Do some kickflips, dude.
	Or, you know, like a worm or something like that on your snowboard.
	Oh, sure.
	You know, like the worm dance?
	Yeah, you do that.
	That's very cool.
	Soul Calibur, too, as well.
	Sickness aside, I had a great time watching some movies, hanging out with you Jared, that was nice.
	And I also took some time to listen in on a panel called Responsible Reporting on Anti-Trans Violence for Journalists.
	Nice.
	I have a link of the audio in the show notes of this episode for anyone who wants to listen.
	It was a great panel.
	Was Matt Walsh on it?
	No, and no one barged.
	There was no barging of panels this time, thank goodness.
	Glad to hear it.
	Yeah.
	The last film I screened was the upcoming HBO documentary Alex Jones vs. The Truth.
	Oh.
	Unbelievable handling of heartbreaking subject matter.
	It kind of distills, in a way, that the Sandy Hook story has been told so many times and people always like to re-air the clips of, you know, Alex Jones saying the frogs are gay and all of the typical breakdowns of the Alex Jones character.
	This film did it a little bit different, concisely showing how often he lies instead of how weird and crazy he is.
	Yeah.
	And that was just a little bit of it because most of the film is, you know, from the victim's mouth, the surviving family of the Sandy Hook shooting.
	And it's super necessary filmmaking.
	Like I said, there's been a lot of documentaries about this.
	This is something that I think people need to check out.
	You're doing the story a disservice when you just paint Alex Jones as crazy.
	So yeah, Max on March 26th is when you can watch that.
	Well, I look forward to watching it, and I also don't at the same time.
	I saw an older guy next to me openly weeping during it.
	It was really, really... You brought your dad with you?
	Dude, come on.
	Was it Jared?
	Is Jared older than you?
	I don't think so.
	No, no, he's the oldest one here.
	What the fuck?
	This sucks.
	Today's show.
	I was already thinking it was gonna be a tight turnaround with prepping an episode.
	Being stuck in bed has put the nail in the coffin on a crowder episode.
	Thank goodness Dennis has gracefully stepped in.
	He's gonna give us a glimpse into the world of the theocratic, fascist, racist, anti-trans, woman fixated.
	I think he's obsessed with young women now too, right?
	The age of fertility.
	He does discuss that a lot.
	Yeah, he's also a dunce.
	His name is Matt Walsh.
	Matt Walsh.
	You know, when I was preparing for this episode, I think what I loved most about it was hearing my wife, like, audibly groan as I was, like, preparing clips.
	She really hates him, and most people should.
	Before you break down, which I believe is the March 11th episode of his show, is that right?
	It's been, like, almost a month since we checked in on Steven.
	I'm gonna cough.
	Oh yeah.
	How is he?
	Well, I'll let you decide.
	I thought it might be fun to give everyone kind of a sprint through what he's been up to since our last episode and last week.
	So, almost a month.
	Let me ask you this.
	Are you guys a fan of maple syrup?
	And do you know, Americans, that what you are getting is mostly not maple syrup.
	It's just corn syrup.
	It's flavored.
	I've never read the back of the nutrition label.
	Nailed it.
	First try.
	I mean, if you want to do the bare minimum.
	Do you feel good about what you just said?
	Does that make you feel like a big man?
	Hey, Mr. Firestein today released a special, hung his balls out there, if I may.
	What'd you do?
	I insulted the host.
	Yeah, he's really mad at Gerald.
	I'm far too frightened for that.
	We have a lot to get to.
	Really ugly broad won Miss Germany, so we'll talk about that.
	It's a shorter ship because I'm not breathing properly.
	Comment below if you guys have had this thing going through.
	I'm sure there's probably COVID and something else, but now it's been like three, four weeks and I woke up today going, Strong COVID.
	Yeah.
	Alright, let me ask you this.
	Should red states kick Biden off the ballot?
	Comment below.
	I say yes.
	I say yes.
	Just, I think we should do a little more tit for tat.
	Tit, fun to say.
	Even funner to see.
	Oh boy.
	Through a lot of consideration, I may or may not be retiring from head host of the show in November 2027.
	I probably not.
	I'll probably stay.
	But I don't know.
	But it's news.
	It's a good announcement.
	Thanks Mitch.
	Am I going to jail?
	You can comment below.
	Should I?
	Yes.
	A part of me feels like that would be just.
	He'll be going to court.
	I mean mostly.
	Please don't kill me on air.
	I'm not gonna kill you.
	Good morning!
	You don't get a sip, but you might get a cough.
	It's the cough that never goes away.
	It won't be enjoyable.
	It will be loud.
	And it will happen often.
	All right, so... We're Steven.
	I hope that that's not true, but look, there is a cough button over there.
	We do have a cough button.
	That's fantastic.
	Yes, it is.
	It's right there.
	I've done no harm and I don't take risks.
	Was not involved in January 6th.
	I think it's A.I.
	But glad to be with you.
	You guys were here yesterday.
	We were!
	Yeah?
	Hold on, I have to cough.
	Oh, good.
	Yep, now he's sick.
	Is he drinking tea?
	Coffee.
	No.
	You okay?
	You guys, I popped my shoulder out in my sleep.
	I don't know how long it was out of the socket.
	I only know that I woke up going, So now it's been hurting.
	That's pretty much all he's been up to.
	Great.
	It sounds like we haven't missed that much.
	I mean, we did miss another manifesto scheme of theirs.
	If it comes up again, we will probably have to do a deeper dive into that situation.
	But for now, I'm willing to put that all in the past.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Put it in our diary.
	Revisit it when he feels like making another tit joke or something.
	Yeah, that was a good one.
	I had to see what was going on with Miss Germany.
	Yeah, what was up with that?
	I'm still trying to figure it out.
	I think she looks fine.
	Yeah, he just doesn't think this woman's attractive, I guess.
	Yeah, it's totally worth that being on the rundown for the day.
	On to the donking, though.
	Yeah, I think it's time for a donk.
	A nice donk.
	As you guys know, Matt has the award of transphobe of the year, right?
	Yes, yes.
	But surprisingly, this episode doesn't talk much about trans stuff.
	Normally, like, I'll tune into a show and I'll listen to, like, the first five things, and it's usually, like, four stories about trans stuff and then something else.
	He plays the hits.
	Yeah, he plays the hits.
	But this one wasn't like that.
	That being said, there is, like, a healthy dose of delusion, a little bit of racism.
	It's gonna be a pretty wild ride.
	Buckle in.
	I think the best place to start would be with some covert racism.
	Okay.
	Oh, shit, that's a typo.
	Overt racism.
	Yeah.
	Can we play the first clip?
	Well, the news out of Haiti the past few weeks has not been very good.
	And this should come as no great surprise, as the news out of Haiti has not been very good for the past 200 years or so.
	It is, of course, one of the most miserable and destitute places in the world.
	60% of the country lives below the poverty line.
	Average life expectancy is under 65.
	I could go on listing depressing statistics, but that's probably not necessary.
	And yet, somehow recently, Life in Haiti has gotten even worse.
	The situation has sunk below Haiti's already extremely low baseline.
	If you lived in the country, you would right now be pining for the old days when you were merely miserable, starving, and destitute, because that was far better than what's happening now.
	I would say there's few people that I trust to understand the nuance of foreign cultures like Matt.
	He loves Haiti.
	I don't think he knows anything about Haiti except for the fact that Trump hates Haiti.
	Ah, it's an asshole country?
	Is that what you said?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, he calls them crap holes on the show because he can't, he has to bleep it.
	He did say it once and then like I'm gonna call it crap hole like on The Good Place when they say forking bull shirt and stuff.
	I mean, that's what happens when you're on the Daily Wire.
	Yeah, of course, yeah.
	So, if you guys aren't following along, basically, Haiti has been taken over by gangs.
	Like, the government is falling apart.
	Yeah, after the assassination of their last president.
	Yeah.
	You know, I mean, of course, war only happens in terrible countries, right?
	No good countries have ever been in war.
	Seems like we're doing that quite a bit.
	Yeah, right?
	So what I hate most about this entire thing, not most, but one thing I can't stand about it, the leader of these gangs is nicknamed BBQ.
	BBQ.
	Which I think, it's too silly of a nickname, right?
	Obviously.
	Yeah.
	But I think I hate it most because Matt loves it, right?
	He doesn't like say he loves it, but he definitely does.
	That's exactly what you think.
	Reportedly, he earned the nickname due to his habit of setting people on fire.
	In fact, BBQ has been Basically, the de facto leader of Haiti for a while now.
	And this is in spite of the fact that nearly a year and a half ago, the UN leveled sanctions on barbecue.
	As NBC News reported at the time, it was a move that was supposed to bring about, quote, more peaceful days.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So I think... You think that barbecue is better than General Butt Naked?
	Remember that guy?
	Who's General Butt Naked?
	Liberia.
	That's right.
	Do we come up with these nicknames?
	I think this was self-imposed.
	Yeah, this is them all together.
	It sounds like if a gamer became a leader of a country.
	For sure.
	There was the Australian Bush Gang, so they were all named after metal bands.
	So there was like the Metallica gang was fighting the Evanescence gang.
	What the hell?
	Really?
	You know, Australia banned guns and stuff, but they're like, you know, they have guns and shit.
	Guns and stuff?
	Wow.
	Well, just guns and bullets, I guess.
	Yeah.
	The stuff being bullets, I suppose.
	But yeah, Australia banned guns, but the gangs still have them and they're just out there, like, having gun wars, I suppose.
	Dang, yeah.
	I want to say it was a vice thing or something like that.
	Oh, the general butt-naked thing was a vice thing, for sure.
	Vice guy to travel, and I'm trying to remember what the other one's from, but...
	The Australian gangs, yeah.
	That just blows my mind.
	I feel like just wars in the future are going to be like, Bomby McBombface will be like the name of a bomb we drop at some point.
	I guess like, what were the Japanese bombs?
	They were Fat Boy, Little Boy, and Fat Man.
	Yeah, they were obviously like weird.
	We've probably had some terrible things written on the sides of bombs that have done some mass devastation.
	Oh, I'm sure we have, yeah.
	So we're probably not too far off, maybe more than we want to know even.
	Yeah, you're definitely, you're not wrong.
	So I think the issue with this is what Matt considers gangs, right?
	He thinks of gangs in the way that gang violence exists here.
	In the United States.
	Yeah, not like it's like, you know, malicious.
	He doesn't feel like it's like that.
	And I think he has a really hard time because he doesn't recognize the seriousness of the issue.
	So you can tell he kind of like rolls his eyes about sanctions, right?
	And so, yeah.
	That didn't work out, shockingly.
	The sternly worded letters to the third world gang leader named Barbecue somehow didn't have any noticeable effect.
	Barbecue did not listen to the UN's press conferences or read their letters and say, gee, you know what?
	These folks are right.
	I should stop brutalizing innocent people.
	I hadn't really thought of it like that.
	I don't think Matt knows what a sanction is.
	Does he think it's like censoring somebody in the Senate?
	I don't think that it's the main concern of a gang leader or a militia leader.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	Of course it's not.
	But sanctions still are a tool that you can use.
	When I, when I hear him talking about it, it just, it sounds like he just, again, doesn't understand what's happening here.
	He thinks that it's like, somebody's like breaking into your house.
	Far more complex than that.
	Did you have a question, Byron?
	No, I'm scratching my head.
	Oh, I thought you raised your hand.
	Yes, you sir.
	It's weird not being in person for this.
	I know, I'm sorry.
	No, it's alright.
	You know, Matt kind of gets into his worst part of the take, though, and it's it's a serious bummer.
	And now things have gotten so bad that according to reports circulating all over social media, the violent gangs terrorizing Haiti have even resorted to cannibalism.
	Here we go.
	That's the thing about Haiti.
	If it's proven anything over the past couple of centuries, it's proven that a bad situation can always get worse and the worst situation can get even worse than that.
	So I don't know what he's talking about.
	Like, I saw some unverified claims on social media about people resorting to cannibalism.
	But what he's implying is that it's like, they're treating it like the opportunity to enjoy their hobby of cannibalism.
	Yeah, that's not what it is.
	If that's even happening.
	I did hear of some videos of something that could potentially be this, but it was from two years ago.
	That was what was being used to imply that this is happening right now.
	And also, if they were cannibals, it would be used as an intimidation tactic.
	It's not they're cannibalistic.
	It would be to terrorize, you know?
	To scare people.
	Jovenel Moise is that I think that's how you pronounce it.
	Something like that.
	The president who was assassinated.
	That happened in July 2021.
	So then if the video is two years old, then that's like six months or, you know, eight months or something of that of ramp up.
	Who, I mean, who knows timeline, but sure.
	I mean, that checks out.
	And so if it's just kind of been that way, people fighting out in the streets and shit, just.
	Totally.
	I mean, Haiti's in rough shape right now, obviously.
	He's acting like it's this land that is barren and like it's all dry and cracked and people are like, it's never been good.
	It's like, you know, was born of like fire and then nobody ever actually lived there.
	Like he acts like there's no culture.
	When you think of Haiti, you think of a planet you can't live on is what he acts like it is.
	Yeah.
	It's really gross.
	It's it's it's exactly who needs to be putting their their voice on this is Matt Walsh Yeah, exactly.
	We want anyone with like a nice delicate touch to discuss the complicated scenario.
	It's definitely him Yeah, but I I mean, let's be honest.
	It's not about Haiti.
	It's about Haitians coming here Of course it is How many of the illegal Haitian migrants are members of the brutal gangs terrorizing their country?
	How many are escaped prisoners?
	Remember, again, the prisons have been emptied.
	How many of them are ending up in our country?
	And now we must even ask, apparently, how many are cannibals?
	These are questions that the Biden administration certainly won't concern itself with and hasn't concerned itself with.
	We'll be called to open our arms to the downtrodden Haitians, even if that means our arms will be chopped off and eaten for breakfast.
	Kareem, Jean-Pierre, please, real quick.
	Real quick, I just wanted to ask about cannibals.
	Yeah, Haitian cannibals.
	We forgot to mention that this is just like an overtly racist idea based on the history of like Haitian voodoo and the stereotypes around that.
	It's just racism.
	I honestly, I think we're giving him too much credit to even bring that into it.
	He's just like seeing the word cannibalism on Twitter and he's just Yeah, yeah, and he's just like losing his mind about it.
	All this cannibalism, they're gonna bring cannibalism to the United States of America, and Biden's not gonna do a damn thing about it.
	Can you believe this?
	The whole zombie mythos coming from, like, Haitian lore.
	Voodoo.
	Yeah, voodoo, and what's the cool fish?
	I don't even think he's considering that.
	I think it's just straight-up brain rot from being around the people that he's around and reading the things that he reads.
	Well, that's it.
	It's just, it's just outrage bait.
	And now people are definitely going to be like, just anti-immigrant in general because of this stupid bullshit.
	Yeah, it's like... This is like a sub-group of...
	How do I say this?
	Stephen Crowder's audience is somehow above Matt Walsh's audience.
	You'd be surprised.
	Stephen did do a whole episode on this too.
	Oh, who's got the smarter fans?
	Is that what he's trying to say?
	Who is going to be fooled by this?
	That's what I'm wondering.
	I don't know.
	Well, I think the answer is too many people will be fooled by this.
	After this, he decides to go down memory lane a little bit, which you mentioned this earlier, Byron, when Trump called Haiti a shithole country, right?
	Of course, Matt had to say crap hole, just because.
	The thing is that, like, you know, when that happened, it was so dismissive of an entire culture, right?
	It was definitely a racist thing to say.
	I don't know anyone who can, with a straight face, say that Haiti has never had a culture with any value of any kind, but Matt does it this entire episode.
	And of course, when Trump called it a shithole, that's what he was doing, and everybody just, uh, appropriately attacked Trump for it.
	He was the president.
	Yeah, he was the president of our country, and he was literally... That would be inappropriate at a school council meeting.
	Yeah!
	And this guy's leading everybody.
	But I think we should probably give Trump a pass, because what matters more than that is what the people who came defending Haiti at that time were saying.
	And just so you know, this next clip is a longer clip, so we'll have a little bit of time to hang out.
	But Colbert wasn't the only late-night host sticking up for Haiti.
	Conan O'Brien was on the case as well.
	Meeting last week to discuss immigration policy.
	You all know President Trump referred to Haiti and African countries as ****hole countries.
	And a lot of people, yeah, thought this was, it's a children's show here now.
	Thought this was crude, disrespectful.
	A lot of people saying this is a borderline racist, if not racist.
	It's pretty racist.
	Want me to lose borderline?
	I think you can lose borderline.
	I'm gonna keep it in for now.
	All right.
	Anyway, according to witnesses at the meeting, the president singled out the country of Haiti, in particular saying, why do we need more Haitians?
	Take them out.
	That is apparently a quote.
	Jesus.
	Now, I have no idea.
	Forgot about that.
	That the president has against the people of Haiti, but if the president doesn't like them, they must be lovely people.
	They really, I mean, it's just...
	Move them out.
	Hilarious jokes.
	I mean, such a long setup to get to the lamest punchline you can possibly imagine.
	But lovely people.
	Absolutely lovely people.
	Even the cannibals.
	I don't know if that was, I mean, the point, right?
	Yeah, no, not at all.
	And he obviously wanted to get the word cannibals in there.
	Again, he had to say it, right?
	Again, it's regurgitating that whole thing about how Haiti never had any value of any kind, according to Matt.
	He also, and I didn't include this clip, but Kona went on to talk about, like, a fundraising effort.
	You know, you can buy t-shirts and hats that said, Haiti's already great or something like that, and that the proceeds would go to help fund charities that supported Haiti.
	Matt said some, like, really fucking terrible thing about, like, if selling t-shirts can raise enough money to help a country, it's not a great country kind of a thing.
	Wait, what?
	Isn't that how Trump is funding his entire campaign?
	Totally, yeah.
	For one, he's really underestimating the value of true fundraising efforts.
	Yeah, real men make documentaries.
	Also, he underestimates how much impact we can have on countries that are struggling.
	Sure.
	It's like when people go to Thailand and they're like, wow, I can buy a house for $100 or whatever, you know?
	We have so much value in countries that are worse off economically than us that we should respect it.
	We shouldn't like shit on the idea.
	No, I mean after the earthquake in Japan.
	Yeah, back in 2011.
	Yeah, I ended up raising like $50,000 to donate just by selling t-shirts.
	Well, Japan's obviously not that great, because why would they need any money from you?
	Well, it seemed like there was a large disaster, but... Yeah, that was the worst earthquake, I think, in Japanese history.
	It was pretty rough.
	A little putting something on the internet can do quite a bit.
	I don't know, I mean, did you think about releasing a podcast being really racist to Japanese people?
	That's pretty... I'll just write that down real quick.
	Yeah, if you need a better idea, call up... Producer's Note.
	Yeah, Producer's Note.
	I think it's just interesting to evoke Conan O'Brien's word on this because you're just inviting the listener, who is now me, to be like, I'd rather just be listening to Conan O'Brien, Matt Walsh, to then call the kettle, you know, the pot calling the kettle black there.
	Just a really lame joke and then goes back to cannibalism.
	Yeah, of course.
	Later on, he does this hilarious, who would ever care about the opinion of this person?
	And then he, like, dedicates a part of his show to it.
	They're always looking for segues, you know that.
	What?
	Yeah, what?
	Anyway, you can rope in something else to talk about.
	You know who I hate is that six foot six handsome ginger man, Conan O'Brien.
	Yeah, right?
	What an asshole.
	He's rich, and he has so much more attention than I do.
	In general, you know, obviously we have to lean back on the expert for how we handle immigration into our country.
	So Matt has a little test for us to determine which ones are the good ones.
	You can usually detect the crap hole countries and distinguish them from the great countries.
	Do they float?
	Because people from the crap hole countries are always trying to get into the great countries.
	It never goes the other way around.
	There has never been, ever, a flood of illegal immigrants from the US going into Haiti.
	That has never happened.
	The flood has always gone the other way.
	And of course, that brings us back to the most important point in all of this.
	The end result.
	The self-fulfilling prophecy, we might say.
	Which is that America becomes less great the more it allows unchecked immigration from the very not great countries.
	Is he just saying it?
	He's just straight up saying it.
	Jesus Christ.
	He didn't even imply like supporting any vetting efforts or whatever.
	He just says basically straight up, if immigrants come here, we get worse.
	Yeah, he just doesn't want it at all.
	Not even, like, legal, it sounds like.
	Exactly!
	Yeah, that's exactly what it sounds like.
	Just don't come here.
	Okay, well... Yeah, just don't come here.
	And, you know, I mean, honestly, here's the thing.
	If you've ever left the country that you're from, it's obviously bad, and you're coming from a bad place.
	You know, we've never done that as a country, right?
	Also we're really good and you can tell this by the metric of that we have Matt Walsh here and you do not.
	Oh yeah that's very true.
	Well we also have Wyclef Jean.
	I've been trying to figure out how can I shoehorn a Wyclef Jean reference in here and I was just not Is he Haitian?
	Yes, he is.
	No, he ran.
	Well, yeah, I'm sorry, he is, but he ran for president of Haiti.
	In 2010, he ran for president, but he was deemed ineligible because he hadn't lived there for five years or something.
	Oh, gotcha.
	That's wild.
	You know, you mentioned he didn't mention legal, right?
	But somebody mentioned the word illegal recently.
	And Biden said it.
	Oh, OK.
	And Matt has some thoughts about it.
	Yeah, Matt has some thoughts.
	Except the only problem is that the apology was was not for the way that he disrespected Lake and Riley and her family.
	I want to briefly introduce what happened.
	Yeah.
	So State of the Union happened this week.
	People loved it.
	Biden did overall a very good job.
	I watched it on the airplane.
	It was not bad.
	And during it he had a flub right he said the wrong name of someone who was killed by alleged like they were they were definitely killed but it was allegedly by an undocumented immigrant right and so it the name is Lakin and he said Lincoln yeah Lincoln yeah and so that's not disrespecting anyone It's like, oh, sorry, I called you Brian.
	And honestly, it's less bad than Brian.
	Yeah, totally.
	Just switching up a vowel.
	Biden was approached about it.
	It's not about that.
	He was approached about using the term illegal to describe the alleged killer.
	And so Matt has thoughts about that.
	Except the only problem is that the apology was not for the way that he disrespected Lake and Riley and her family.
	Instead, he apologized for disrespecting the killer.
	I noticed the look of surprise on your face when you walked into the chamber and you saw Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	It was priceless.
	You feigned shock at seeing her.
	But during your response to her heckling of you, you used the word illegal when talking about the man who allegedly killed Lakin Riley.
	An undocumented person.
	And I shouldn't have used illegal.
	It's undocumented.
	Unacceptable.
	Clearly.
	Yeah.
	And one thing I want to note here is that Matt did not even say alleged, which I think is important because there hasn't been this trial and conviction.
	I don't know much about the story of the whole thing.
	Be responsible with that.
	But one thing I want to highlight about the mess up of, for one, when Biden was apologizing, he was discussing, it was a moment when he didn't mention the name, I don't believe.
	I'd have to see the moment, but yeah, so Marjorie yelled something at him say her name is basically what she said yes among a couple other things and He actually held up a little a flat plaque or chip or something that had Lake and Riley's name on it Okay, holding it up saying like I'm not forgetting this person.
	I'm carrying this around with me like yeah And he kind of like just muttered Lincoln Lincoln and then was responding to what Marjorie was saying I find I don't know I was just looking for statements from the family because of course it's up to them to be offended You know and if no, it's actually up to Jimmy Levy It's not as if Joe Biden did not know this person He was literally carrying around her name with him on the podium when he was at the State of the Union I thought that they said Lincoln Reilly and I couldn't remember who Lake and Reilly was but I heard Lincoln Reilly in my head and so I looked it up Lincoln Reilly and then Pat McAfee also thought that Lincoln Reilly died who is a USC coach.
	I'll say this, when I was working on this episode, all my transcription software transcribed it as Lincoln Riley.
	Sure.
	So I wouldn't even be surprised if it was transcribed wrong on like a teleprompter from someone using like an AI like text-to-speech or something.
	For sure.
	Yeah.
	We gotta shut that shit down.
	But I mean, I think it's super important here that we talk about the fact that it's okay to be upset about multiple things.
	Sure.
	It's okay to be upset that he said the name wrong.
	That's fine.
	You can feel that and that's fair, right?
	It's also okay to be upset about the fact that he is, you know, using terminology that can be offensive to people who did not commit this crime.
	That's the people that are being addressed here.
	It's not the murderer that he's like caring about.
	He's caring about the people who might feel offended by him using that term to describe someone like them in that one simple category.
	Yeah.
	And at the end of the day, Biden's just an old guy with bad habits.
	It's updated language, which I don't want to give him too much slack, but I don't know many other people in their 70s and 80s who update the way they talk about situations like that.
	I saw him, too, almost say bad hombres.
	Oh, no.
	He almost slipped up with it.
	He almost said it.
	He said illegals instead.
	Yeah.
	If you guys had to guess, what percentage of Americans would you guys say think that this entire conversation about illegal versus undocumented is a waste of time?
	What percentage would you guys say if you had to guess?
	Percentage of...
	Of Americans that even care.
	I mean, I'm going to probably go around 50-50.
	Okay, I would agree with that.
	What do you think, Jared?
	I'm going to go 51-49.
	Oh, nice.
	I'm not going to specify which direction.
	Okay.
	Let's see what he has to say.
	Now, there is a glitch in this next clip, by the way.
	Go ahead.
	It's their fault.
	The number of people who really think that way is in line with the vast majority of the country.
	I mean, I would venture a guess it's like 99% of the country.
	Who gets it?
	Because only the farthest left, most out of touch psychopaths will hear that an illegal immigrant killed an American woman and immediately think, Oh, that's terrible.
	And the part that was missing was he said, oh, that's terrible.
	They called him illegal.
	That was what he said.
	It's not that person that is being addressed in this context, right?
	It's about other people.
	That's all that it is.
	I mean, think about how when Hillary described some Trump voters as deplorables, how all of them took offense.
	Yeah, but what about the things that Trump says about leftists?
	Totally.
	Totally, a thousand percent.
	But how many people felt like, I'm not a deplorable, right?
	That's not me.
	They all learned a new word and they still use it.
	Oh, they love that word.
	It's like a big old bite.
	It makes me, I mean, it's clearly, it's like, I understand why you glance at it and say, oh, you're defending a killer, right?
	If there was a conservative person who had a swastika tattoo and killed somebody and they said, oh, of course, it was just a white person killing people.
	They take offense to that language, too.
	Yes.
	Of course.
	The word does not matter to the person who did that crime, allegedly did that crime, of course.
	The reason why it needs to be addressed is because it affects other people in our country.
	Yeah.
	And both, again, can matter at the same time.
	It's just the brushing with wide swaths, right?
	Exactly.
	That's fine.
	De facto criminal.
	There was something else that Biden said that really got Matt pissed, though.
	He said that undocumented immigrants built the country.
	Matt was not happy about it.
	I thought Matt said that for a second.
	No, no, no.
	Matt definitely did not say that.
	Matt said this.
	It is absolute nonsense.
	They did not build the country.
	They are not building the country.
	Illegal immigrants Are not building anything.
	And one way you know that is like if you were to round up all the illegal immigrants and ship them out of the country, as we should do, things would not fall apart without them.
	We wouldn't look around and say, oh, you know, we're stuck.
	Quite the opposite, actually.
	And that's because they come here not to build the country, but to benefit from what has already been built.
	Quick question for you guys.
	Do you guys think the US would run fine if all of the undocumented immigrants vanished?
	No, it would not work.
	No, of course not.
	It's a large chunk of our labor force.
	It's just so... First off, round them up.
	Yeah, gross.
	I was gonna say... Of course.
	Like, get the fuck out of here with that shit.
	Holy shit.
	Yeah, it's bullshit language for sure.
	On top, the thing's already built, so go... so leave.
	And it's like...
	We don't need to maintain that or anything.
	Like our entire food structure in this country doesn't depend on cheap labor, basically.
	Like, does he not understand this?
	If this is like some sort of like, we're trying to give money to these laborers, we want to give them raises, but we don't want to give the illegals raises.
	Arms crossed.
	Yeah.
	It's like, get the fuck out of here.
	Like, what even is that?
	Yeah, well I did a little bit of research and I found there's like 8 million estimated immigrants working in the United States.
	Just immigrants, not undocumented immigrants.
	73% of farm workers are migrants in the United States.
	73%!
	And I'm sure that there's a huge Venn diagram overlap of folks who are here without proper documentation and folks who are here with the proper documentation.
	It absolutely blows my mind that Matt Walsh truly believes that if we Rounded them all up and kicked them all out that the United States would fall apart in a second.
	So quick.
	Fucking bananas.
	So fast.
	Think about all of the food, all the farming.
	Rotten on the vine.
	He's like narcissistic for the country, like on behalf of the country.
	He has a really interesting take on what happens when Haitian immigrants are coming here.
	You're not going to look around the country right now and look at any problem that we're facing and say, you know what would solve that problem?
	More immigrants from Haiti.
	No one's saying that.
	Name me one problem in this country that could be solved by importing, you know, a thousand more Haitians.
	Does he know that we're not importing Haitians?
	That's not how it works.
	They're not an object that we're like, hey, barbecue, we need a few more people to do... He's sent us some people that you're not eating?
	Yeah, I think that we used to do that as a country.
	Well, yeah.
	Yeah, we used to.
	Here's the thing is that the Haitian folks who are immigrating here are not coming here to solve our problems.
	They're coming here so that we can help them.
	Uh-huh.
	We should be caring for people who are coming here because they're running.
	People coming from Haiti right now, I absolutely believe that they would be fleeing from gang violence.
	Yes.
	And the point is not, they're not here to solve our problems.
	They're not, right?
	If somebody knocks on your door and says, Hey, I need some help.
	You're not going to immediately be like, cool.
	Can you, uh, you know, clean my house or whatever, right?
	It's, it's not, it's, you have to care for other people.
	When you have strength, you can care for people who need your strength.
	And that's something that he should be proud of.
	Part of the world.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	He starts to like grapple a bit with something and that he kind of realizes when he's talking that we were immigrants to the U.S., right?
	Like we weren't starting here as a country.
	We didn't just like, you know, pop out from the middle of the Appalachian Trail or anything.
	But it was different when we did it though, right?
	Yeah, explain it away, Matt.
	Well, for one thing, you can't illegally migrate into a country that doesn't exist.
	And when they came here, the American and European settlers and pioneers, there was no country.
	This was an untamed wilderness dotted with warring primitive tribes who never established any country or civilization of their own.
	So they weren't living there?
	The pioneers didn't break the law coming here because there were no laws!
	Yeah.
	What a fucking idiot.
	Jesus Christ.
	Just because there wasn't a country like you were used to seeing, doesn't mean the land didn't belong to somebody.
	Sure.
	Hey, I'm chasing buffalo here!
	Where's he drawing the line, too?
	After the birth of the country, that's when... I mean, there's still mass immigration to the United States after we became a country.
	Yes, of course.
	Yeah, and he acts like there was nobody here except for a couple dudes wandering around by a river.
	Like they didn't have civilization or history.
	Yeah, they're just a series of guys pointing at stuff.
	They had fucking unique languages.
	It's so just insulting to the people who were here before us, of course.
	Imagine Matt Walsh's brain breaking if we gave him a shirt that said, like, we live on stolen land.
	Oh, he'd be like, he's driving through Missoula and he reads what the Salish, the sign he jumps over Higgins Bridge.
	It's just obviously clearly offensive acting like there's not.
	And for one, it shows that you can't break laws.
	If there's no laws shows how much his morality is defined by what people tell him is good and bad rather than his own like heart.
	But I mean, I think really importantly, we came here for a different reason.
	What could that be?
	The early pioneers and settlers in this country came from civilization, from a thriving and functioning civilization.
	They came here and they built a new one.
	As now, the illegal immigrants, and many of the legal ones, come from decaying, dying, dead, non-existent civilizations.
	Without the skills to build a civilization, because that's the whole reason why their country that they're leaving, that's the whole reason it has fallen apart, is because the people there don't know how to build a country and maintain it.
	My head hurts so bad, I can't tell if it's the COVID or that as well.
	It's just the mental gymnastics, man.
	You're getting like a binaural beats situation going on with this voice, but it's just giving you the RFK leaky brain disease.
	Yeah.
	He's like, uh, the Haitians don't even have any boots to lick, you know, like he doesn't recognize that when we came over here, we were running away.
	We were not expanding.
	It's not like, Hey, we're opening a new Chick-fil-A over in the U S we were running from a country that didn't represent our values.
	That's why we came here and we fought a fucking war with them.
	It's not like we just left and said, Hey, I'll let you know once I start my own country and I'll write you soon.
	Yeah.
	It's so delusional, but I mean, Let's think about right now, right?
	Obviously, most of the place is settled, so his logic has changed a little bit, right?
	But if your country's in chaos, he recommends some things we should do.
	People there don't know how to build a country and maintain it.
	They don't have those skills.
	If they did again, they would stay there and do it.
	And they flee their own nation because they'd rather come here than do the work of making their own countries prosperous, which, you know, It's just a factual observation.
	I mean, I wish they all had the same resources that we had, too.
	Fucking exactly, yeah.
	Right?
	Imagine, like, a killer breaks into your neighbor's house and kills the parents.
	Okay.
	And then the kid comes and knocks on your door.
	Yeah.
	And you're like, get off my porch, kid!
	Go home!
	That's basically what he's doing here.
	They don't have the resources to fight up against gangs that are taking over their government.
	If their own government can't, then do you expect somebody who's just a general citizen of the country to be able to rise up?
	Could it happen?
	Sure.
	Will it happen?
	Very unlikely.
	Can you help?
	Do they need support in that time?
	Absolutely they do.
	Yeah.
	Favorite thing is like, he really is like, okay, he tries to empathize a bit and he's like, well, what if I was in Haiti?
	Like he, he, he thinks this and his take is bullshit.
	I mean, if I lived in Haiti, I want to get the hell out of there too.
	You know, because, but that's because if I lived in Haiti, I would be thinking primarily about my own needs and the needs of my family, which is understandable for me to have that as my top priority.
	But our country should not have my own personal needs as a priority over the needs of the country.
	So I should have the collective.
	Yes.
	Which means most people are probably concerned about this, right?
	Yeah, he was like simultaneously super selfish, and then trying to understand that a country's purpose is to serve the greater good of the people.
	I just, I love it when he realized, because he's like, because my family's top priority, and then he realized that didn't like resonate.
	He's like, oh shit, I gotta walk it back a little bit.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Throw a wider net there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But then, I mean, we're almost done talking about Haiti, thankfully.
	Yeah.
	But he has a little bit more racism to unfold for us.
	Yeah, if that was true, they'd be serving as the backbone of their own country.
	I mean, this country already has a backbone, and it's not them.
	Jesus.
	And in fact, the more illegals that we bring here, they are a burden that we carry.
	They are a strain on the backbone.
	They are not the backbone.
	This is pretty blunt.
	It's overtly racist.
	It is the most... He acts like the people who come to our country have zero values as humans, plainly.
	They're more religious than America, though.
	You're talking about Mexicans coming up from the South.
	They're all mostly Catholic, right?
	Overwhelmingly Catholic.
	So it's like they they have morality, you know, or I mean like as close to what he would consider morality.
	Yeah, morality.
	Yeah, it's just like but but they're still I guess just savages because they're not from here is just like the most asinine shit that I could imagine.
	It's just straight up.
	Like I just don't really understand the the rejection of that type of information like they all go to church not all and you know what I mean like I don't want to generalize too much but... 52% according to a 2017 Asian government survey which I don't know But regardless, they're humans.
	They are fucking humans.
	And the fact that Matt cannot admit, like even if he wants to be selfish about it, undocumented workers here have a serious impact on our economy.
	Like a serious impact.
	And he's ignoring it.
	What's the alternative that he wants?
	I know that he personally would not go and work on a farm.
	I can guarantee you that.
	Yeah.
	He's got his cushy little camera job.
	What would he like to see happen in Haiti?
	Well, I think that he's hoping that people will just grow guns out of like, they just plant a few bullets.
	Sure.
	And then the guns grow.
	Yeah.
	And then they rise up and they fight against barbecue.
	That's what he wants.
	And it's gonna be like the new the new Bible.
	It'll be the the Bible Ultra New Testament.
	Remember the last time that Haiti had like a really bad hurricane season?
	It's just things like this are gonna continue to happen.
	That's all I guess I'm trying to get at.
	Is that like if it's not the weather, right?
	Then it's like the political discourse and it's like we're always On the other end of this and it's like, it's only going to become more of a thing, the less America wants to act on other countries behalf, like our neighbors behalf, basically.
	And it's not, it's not purely America's charge of it, but we also cause a lot of problems in those areas.
	And we have for years, so it's just like... What do you want, Matt Walsh?
	Because of imperialism, a lot of these places are in the direction they are in, and then we have to deal with those consequences as just more people of this world that we all occupy together.
	We have a responsibility.
	If we have the resources, we should be helping.
	Like throwing toilet paper out like Donald did in Puerto Rico.
	A little football toss.
	Yeah, a basketball spiral.
	Oh, was it like more of a basketball free throw?
	Yeah, it was a free throw for sure.
	In my memory, it was a spiral.
	I wish.
	He probably did that too somewhere.
	A one-hand toss.
	But it's like, even if you disagree with the logic of, I want to help these people because I owe it to the world to help, It's kind of like if your neighbor's tree was about to fall on your house, you need to have a conversation about the tree falling.
	Because it will impact you, right?
	The fact that there are Haitians coming to the United States, yes, that is impacting our country.
	He may disagree with the benefits of it or whatever.
	It's not our fault, but it's our responsibility to handle because it's impacting us.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	We have to respect that.
	But thankfully, Matt decides to move on.
	Good.
	Did you guys watch the Oscars?
	I didn't actually.
	No?
	Did you watch it?
	Sorry.
	I did not.
	No.
	I didn't either.
	It's fine.
	Matt didn't.
	So I guess we all have something in common with Matt.
	Oh nice.
	But he does know about one of his favorite dudes getting a nod at the Oscars.
	I think Trump was not mentioned at all.
	And they almost made it to the end with that unprecedented streak intact.
	Until Jimmy Kimmel, the host of the show, stepped in and put an end to it.
	Let's watch.
	Stepped in?
	He was the host.
	You know, doing this show is not about me.
	I appreciate you having me.
	It's really about you and Emma and all these great actors and actresses and filmmakers.
	But I was told we have like an extra minute and I'm really proud of something.
	I was wondering if I could share it with you.
	I just got a review and...
	Has there ever been a worse host than Jimmy Kimmel at the Oscars?
	His opening was that of a less-than-average person trying too hard to be something which he is not and never can be.
	Get rid of Kimmel and perhaps replace him with another washed-up-but-cheap ABC talent, George Slopinopoulos.
	He would make everybody on stage look bigger, stronger, and more glamorous.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	make America great again.
	See if you can guess which former president just posted that on TruthCenter.
	Anyone?
	No?
	Well, thank you, President Trump.
	Thank you for watching.
	I'm surprised you're still watching.
	Isn't it past your jail time?
	It's coming, Chuck.
	That's pretty good.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Had to get the Trump mention in there.
	It's sort of amazing that these people are this stupid.
	Matt!
	Trump said something!
	A presidential candidate said something, yeah.
	He was on this funny rant about how, like, the leftists are so dumb because mentioning Trump is all he wanted.
	And he's not wrong, like, that's obviously what Trump wants.
	No, I think that is probably, yeah.
	But objectively, isn't it past your jail time?
	Was a great one.
	It's a funny joke.
	It was great, yeah, it was fantastic.
	This just reminds me of, like, when Steven said he accidentally watched the Super Bowl.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I accidentally watched the big game.
	We know that they're paying attention to these.
	Of course they are, yeah.
	And he talks about how we need to, like, go with this, like, just ignore him, right?
	And go with, like, a who cares approach.
	Earlier in the show I mentioned, this is the point where he, like, talks about someone and then says, who cares about them?
	Yeah.
	It's about Robert De Niro on Real Time, so here we go.
	Robert De Niro was on with Bill Maher the night before the Oscars, where he spent several minutes Talking about the ways that Trump hurts his feelings.
	And that's not even my, like, sarcastic way of describing what Robert De Niro said.
	It was.
	I didn't include like the big long clip because it was obviously was long and but basically he was on real time and they talked about Trump and what he talked about wasn't necessarily like I hurt my feelings he talked about how like when 2016 happened and and Trump won how like half of the country just had this fucking a man like that kind of a vibe huh right that's like as a country it like hit everybody in the gut because it was like oh man we're headed down a shit path now Right?
	And that's what it was about.
	It wasn't like Robert De Niro was crying.
	Because Trump was mean to him.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It wasn't like that at all.
	You think Robert De Niro cares about that?
	He doesn't give a shit.
	I mean, he said things like, you know, I would never play Trump.
	He's just a mean guy.
	And he talked about how a lot of people have this like, fuck you, I got mine attitude.
	Yeah.
	Which is so funny considering what Matt was just talking about with Haiti, right?
	It's like the exact attitude that Robert De Niro's like, we don't need this.
	What are you saying?
	He's contradictory?
	A little bit, yeah.
	I mean, maybe a touch, but... Interesting.
	Okay, first of all, even if Trump was a violent warlord dictator, even if Trump was, you know, the second coming of barbecue, I don't think he would bother going after Robert De Niro.
	Like, nobody cares what Robert De Niro says.
	I think Matt does.
	Yeah, why are you talking about this?
	Don't watch the Oscars.
	Don't talk about Robert De Niro in real time.
	What are we doing here?
	You gave his voice to your show and then you're like, who cares about that guy?
	Everyone knows that actors aren't allowed to have an opinion.
	You're actors.
	You have it better than everyone.
	And they're like, wait a minute, doesn't Matt Walsh make money off of kind of doing the same thing?
	Posturing?
	Of course.
	Sure.
	All day?
	What is the difference?
	He's also a celebrity, and he's like a celebrity to Chuds, I guess.
	You've just been unbroken a couple more times than I have.
	Criminally online people.
	Yeah.
	Right, yeah.
	But, you know, it's... what's the line there?
	You know what I mean?
	What amount of fame are you allowed to have?
	You made some Scorsese movies, get the fuck out of here with this politics shit.
	You telling me Matt Walsh doesn't, like, meet the fuckers?
	I'm sure he loved it.
	Could you milk me, Greg?
	I got nipples, could you milk me?
	Come on now.
	I think what stood out to me about this clip, though, was how he mentioned that Trump was, like, not a dictator at all, right?
	Yeah.
	And he has the most wild take I've ever heard.
	I think these people are that deluded, and they really do believe it.
	Meanwhile, the reality is that Trump was, and will probably be again, the least dictatorial president we've had in decades.
	Maybe ever.
	I mean, you could make an argument forever.
	He's the least dictatorial president we've ever had.
	In fact, as I've argued many times, Trump's greatest flaw...
	Is that he's too far over on the other end of the spectrum.
	There's like the dictator, you know, and then the opposite of that.
	It's like he's all the way at the opposite end actually.
	Too much so.
	Yeah, because most other candidates have said like, I want to be a dictator.
	But most other candidates say like for like a week or a month.
	Yes.
	And he said a day.
	He said a day.
	He's so far on the opposite.
	It reminds me of when Michael Scott tries to tell Oscar on The Office that he's like so straight that he doesn't even know what some of that gay stuff they're talking about is.
	Trump being like, no, I'm actually so far not a dictator.
	I don't even know how to spell dictator.
	Honestly, I don't even know what that means.
	Never heard of it.
	And then he gets it explained to him.
	He's like, oh, actually.
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah, I am.
	I'm kind of that.
	I'd like to be.
	I do like the sound of the rings in my ear.
	Come on, man.
	Like, what kind of- It's such a weird, like- His audience can't even believe that.
	They have to have been like, come on, Matt.
	What are we talking about?
	Yeah.
	The least- The least.
	That's just shocking.
	George Washington was more of a dictator than Donald Trump.
	Are we coming back to Haiti or are we out of it?
	We don't talk about it again, no.
	Do you have more about it?
	Yeah, I just wanted to correct myself.
	I said hurricane.
	2010 was an earthquake.
	I just wanted to throw that in there.
	I don't know, I could expand a little bit on...
	I'm confused.
	What is this thing you're doing?
	Oh, making a correction?
	You can double down, dude.
	Double down.
	If you fuck up, don't change what you're saying.
	Earthquake, hurricane, same thing, right?
	Every other podcast we listen to... We're moving on.
	No, no, no.
	See, Rock Me Like a Hurricane was played at Haiti at one point, is what you're talking about.
	That's what I was gonna say.
	Yeah, you mean when, like, the U.S.
	troops were, like, going into... You just misspoke, dude.
	Yeah, you misspoke.
	Block mutual aid into Port-au-Prince.
	Perfect.
	Boots on the ground.
	So that's basically like his wrap-up on Trump.
	He just wants to really quickly say, hey, listen, Trump's not a dictator, you guys.
	Trust me.
	He's not.
	I promise.
	I know that you saw me texting some other guy, but I'm not cheating.
	And also he watched the whole Oscars waiting for some content.
	The entire Oscars looking for content.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But then he pivots to the other news right now.
	The other news is about the TikTok ban.
	Oh, here we go.
	What's funny about this is Matt does this thing.
	He does this occasionally when it's not like a clearly defined how he should feel about it as somebody on the right.
	Just the way he discusses it, it's so funny how he's like on the fence, right?
	He's sitting on the fence.
	He's getting that sore butt from just sitting there.
	I would just start the clip, but I have a guess of what his take is, because I've heard it from a couple different people, but not him directly.
	Can I make a guess?
	Okay.
	Yeah, what's your guess?
	Is he gonna say that it is a way to connect with the youth right now?
	So it's a tool of the culture war that they should take advantage of?
	He doesn't go that route.
	I should be able to groom the youth.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Teen girls only.
	That's kind of what his other folks in the same industry have been saying.
	Yeah, no, and I've heard that a lot, but he doesn't...
	It doesn't go that route.
	Trump is against it.
	Rand Paul has spoken out against it.
	Elon Musk is against it.
	Wonder why.
	I guess now.
	And I understand the arguments against it.
	And those are people that I obviously agree with on many things.
	But then I look at, you know, we know who else opposes this bill, and that is the thousands of TikTok addicts, many of them children, who called their congressional representatives last week, frantically demanding that they block the bill.
	Great.
	You can tell throughout it, he's like, he wants to keep people on the fence, right?
	He doesn't, where am I going to go?
	Where am I going to go?
	Keep them guessing.
	We don't know if it's bad or not yet.
	But it reminds me of like when TV networks would fight about broadcast rights, because what TikTok did is they put out this message to all the adult users.
	It was like, hey, call your Congress people and talk and tell them how you feel.
	But of course, a lot of people called Congress people, not just the adult users, right?
	A lot of people called.
	Here I am, calling my congressman.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's good.
	But they don't explain all that.
	Instead, they just say it's going to be banned, and they urge their — there was a link to their congressional representatives, and so a lot of people called.
	This led to thousands of calls to different members of Congress.
	And reportedly, in some of the calls, the kids threatened to kill themselves.
	If this bill was not blocked.
	Obviously, that's an overreaction.
	See, well, I'm calling Matt Bresendale, I'm calling Steve Daines, I'm calling Greg Abbott, and I'm saying the same shit.
	You should.
	First off, give me my Pornhub back.
	Second off, take my TikTok, leave it alone.
	Occupied Texas no longer on the Hub, baby.
	We're gone.
	I gotta watch my fail costs.
	I need to watch people get hurt in 30 second clips.
	Of course, that's all I gotta do.
	I need my skate videos in slow motion so I can live vicariously through them.
	That's a good one, too.
	Obviously, there's a conversation to be had about what Matt's concerned about, which is smartphone addiction.
	He talks about that quite a bit.
	But he's worried about kids growing up on phones, which is his focus, and that's kind of where he goes with this, once he decides to say, I support the ban.
	But I don't think we've really stopped to think about what this means.
	I don't think we've really stopped to think about what sort of people we are creating.
	And what the world will look like in 50 years.
	30, 20 years.
	You know, there's more and more of these kids who've grown up on this.
	Like, the only thing they've ever known is just staring at their phone.
	That's it, you know?
	I mean, of course, we can all agree, like, smartphone addiction is a problem.
	Sure, absolutely.
	Unless you're listening.
	If you're listening on your phone, keep on bumpin'.
	Also, give us five stars.
	Write a review.
	Five stars.
	Give us six stars.
	I don't think that's...
	Send us an extra.
	So, like, I get it.
	It's something to consider, right?
	But the thing that, like, the entire, like, question around the TikTok ban is about the level of power of things that are being banned.
	Is the government trying to overstep and ban the commerce of TikTok?
	Is that where they're concerned?
	Because somebody was, like, apparently discussing, like, putting together, like, an investment company to buy TikTok when it's divested, right?
	So there's obviously questions about, like, who benefits if it divests, you know?
	Well, I thought it was the former Trump team person was looking to buy TikTok, right?
	Uh, Mnuchin.
	Oh gosh, after what?
	What was his?
	Parler?
	Gab?
	No, he had another one that just didn't go very well.
	Do you guys remember Shoutout?
	Oh yeah, I do, vaguely.
	That was the conservative cameo.
	That's pretty cool.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He obviously doesn't have much of a take on it, except that, you know, apparently everybody other than him is like a drone on their phone.
	I guess.
	Like, drone on the phone!
	It's a cool song.
	But we move on.
	He doesn't want to talk about it too much.
	And we move on to a segment called, Was Walsh Wrong?
	Which, generally, yes.
	But in this one, he responds to comments This is a little bit of a turn, right?
	It's not talking about immigrants, it's not talking about TikTok or Biden, but it has a little bit of what we talked about in there.
	The first comment that we talked about is about someone discussing states seceding.
	They wrote, how destructive a separation of states would be... This is a comment from a watcher.
	...compared temporaneously to Europe and its centuries of bloodshed and suffering, as well as historically to Greece.
	A national divorce would permanently destroy the greatest country ever devised.
	Those on the right need to fight and never ever surrender the idea of one nation under God.
	And so that's a comment and he wants to discuss it.
	But I want to ask you guys, have you ever heard of somebody on the left truly like wanting to secede from the country?
	No, I've heard people wanting to leave, to move to Canada.
	Like themselves, like, I want to move away.
	I feel like the only secession efforts I have have come from the right.
	So that person's comment when they're like, you know, the right needs to fight.
	So it's definitely, it's really interesting.
	But Matt has a take on why people want to secede at all, right?
	Like, why do they?
	We can say that.
	We can say it's a bad idea.
	Fine.
	But we also need to acknowledge that The reason why these ideas are appealing to people now.
	That to me is the interesting question.
	And if it is such a bad idea as you say, then why is it that We looked at the polls yesterday.
	If the percentages are right, millions of Americans are in favor of their state seceding.
	So they're being crybabies, actively believing lies spread by Donald Trump.
	Yeah, well that's the thing.
	He knows that it's a problem that people want to secede, but he I can't grasp the fact that there's people who are adding fuel to this fire that he is saying are not even dictators in any capacity.
	Huh.
	The most altruist president we've ever had and now we have people wanting to secede.
	It's really wild to me.
	It's like a guy doing graffiti and then being like, man, graffiti is everywhere here.
	Like, it's basically what's happening.
	Yeah.
	I will say that he's not the person who says a civil war is coming, which surprised me.
	Because a lot of people are like, you know, civil war, civil war, civil war.
	Yeah, because the movie's coming out next week.
	But his take as to why it's not happening is a dumb one.
	I think that we are a more divided nation in many ways than we were in the lead up to the Civil War, but I don't think that there actually will be one.
	For a lot of reasons.
	Some of it is the fact that our You know, the cultural division is not as geographically well defined as it was during the Civil War.
	So that's that's one reason.
	Another reason is just people like we just talked about a minute ago, TikTok, people would rather sit around on their phones like they don't want to give that sort of stuff up.
	The idea of actually going out and fighting, you know, a battle over this is not really appealing to people.
	So I don't think it's going to be a civil war.
	I mean, I don't I don't think it's going to be a civil war either.
	Well, it's because the kids are too dumb and lazy to go shoot their neighbor.
	I mean, what are you gonna put on the line here?
	Like, no one has anything anyway.
	Who's fighting who in this situation?
	Uh, well... I guess that's like the other, like, question I have for it.
	It's like, he thinks that kids are gonna be the ones that go out there on the streets and, like, do the murdering.
	It's like... Well, he's thinking in, like, in... Kids don't give a shit, you know?
	Like, their parents are the one who care, by and large, as far as being wrapped up with melted brain from four years of Trump and the election's been stolen type of bullshit.
	January 6th type of people.
	That's kind of all of them, you know what I mean?
	Like, they were there and now they're all in prison.
	Everybody else who's activated is like, OK, well, this is just annoying to watch, you know, old man Joe Biden versus old man Trump again for like the balance of this country.
	They're not that passionate about it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's especially kids like that.
	They don't have anything either.
	And the more you know, like our generation has nothing.
	We're Millennials who's after us?
	Is it Zoomers after us?
	Gen Z. What the fuck is that?
	I just found out about that.
	Really?
	Those are the young, young ones.
	That leads me to a quick thought.
	Do you guys think anyone filmed a TikTok dance in the Capitol?
	During Jan 6th?
	Yeah, was it like someone doing like a Fortnite backpack dance?
	Yeah, like a hilarious TikTok dance.
	Yeah, I bet it happened, and I would hate to see it.
	It would break my heart.
	Well, they're in prison now, so... Yeah, they're doing it in prison now.
	They smuggled in a phone to do TikToks.
	You know, I mean, it also comes down to soft times create smooth brains and smartphones or whatever.
	Smooth moves.
	Smooth moves.
	But after this, Matt goes on, like, he talks a lot about WPATH, which is this, like, trans organization that, like, there's so much to unpack with it that I'm not going to talk about it.
	Yeah.
	But I do want to touch on the very last thing he talked about, which is just a little bit of, like, you know, diversity is bad seasoning, you know, just like really kind of salt bae this episode.
	Sure.
	And this is a long clip.
	Major hospitals are now openly admitting that they're lowering their standards in the name of DEI.
	So here's one video he found.
	It's a senior surgeon at Duke named Vignesh Raman explaining that post-George Floyd, Duke has abandoned all kinds of metrics, quote-unquote, when recruiting surgeons.
	Instead, Duke now has a completely holistic review process that focuses on the life stories of applicants who want to become surgeons.
	Watch.
	2020 and George Floyd and those events happened and sort of collectively galvanized the consciousness
	of Duke University and certainly our department to try to do something and recognizing this like
	centuries-long history of racism and slavery in which Duke University essentially was founded,
	on which it was founded, and that's when we sort of had to confront the history of institution,
	the history of our department, the walls of white men, That are draped across our hallways and that's when we started to start to think that maybe something should change.
	Something should change within ourselves and who comprises this department in terms of the faculty, in terms of the residents.
	Significant inequity in representation in our program.
	That's something that we've been consciously, deliberately working hard to change over the last several years.
	Some of the things that we have done in addition to what Lillian presented, I think the most important thing we've done is really systemic changes to our recruitment process to try to recruit diverse residents to our program and then to retain and support those diverse residents after they get to our program.
	So part of this has involved transitioning to completely holistic review process that we spoke about earlier today.
	Abandoning, you know, all sort of metrics and screens.
	Looking at people's life story and what brought them into surgery.
	And then the other part of it is increasing the diversity of the people who read the applications.
	Because that's an important component of ensuring that we get diverse residents into our program.
	And then once residents get here, how do we support them?
	Because when you're going into surgery, that's what you want to know about your surgeon, right?
	Is what their life story is.
	You know, and there's a lot more that Ben found.
	That's just part of it.
	But the point is that nobody at Duke responded to this.
	The Daily Wire sent them multiple requests for comment or explanation.
	They ignored all of them.
	That's because at Duke Health, they don't care about what the public thinks.
	They're not really even concerned that much with patient safety.
	They're now an ideologically driven institution just like every other company in the Fortune 500.
	At least when he reaches out, he doesn't have to say, Mug Club Undercover is who we are.
	Hey, this is Matt from Big Balls International.
	Yeah, yeah, it's so dumb.
	I mean, I think what's crazy, for one, all of like what Matt said here was that they abandoned all metrics.
	He didn't say that.
	He said all sorts of metrics.
	Like he missed one word and it changed the entire understanding.
	Not that it mattered to Matt because Matt didn't care, right?
	No, he doesn't give a shit.
	He heard white and he goes, what?
	Yeah, he just heard like group replacement.
	That's all he's worried about is he's getting replaced.
	And it's like understanding somebody's background When you're recruiting them for residency, right?
	Yeah, I think it's kind of important.
	Of course it's important.
	Where do you want to draw the line, Matt?
	Do you want just like... These people have been in like the the doctorate programs at their school or, you know, at the school or whatever.
	It's residency, yeah.
	Yeah, so it's like they've already been doing it, so it's not like... And once they get to that point, they're doctors, they're surgeons.
	It's not like they're just like pulling fucking people off the street and being like, you get a cut of brain!
	You get a cut of brain!
	Yeah, he's acting like Like the Haitian immigrants are directly going to do.
	Yeah, you're just walking down the street and a couple of Haitian folks pass you and you notice that they walk down a dark alleyway And it's a, you know, into the back door, hey, hey, you guys want to cut up a brain for science?
	It's ridiculous.
	It's absolutely bonkers.
	I think the main thing that was trying to be put across is that we want more people that are in a more diverse demographic to be getting these applications, you know, having the opportunity to submit and be talked to.
	And it should be a holistic process.
	It should not just be like people are machines.
	And holistic includes their skills.
	Yeah, they're just like, you score really high but you're insufferable.
	Here, you cut a brain!
	Yeah, exactly.
	No, it's a multifaceted career that requires a lot of different things and a lot of different skills.
	Exactly, yeah.
	It's just that simple and it's... I think the word holistic freaks him out too, though.
	It does.
	Well, it's because it's like... It has that woo-woo vibe to it.
	Yeah, it does.
	It's got crystal mommy coated type of energy coming off of it.
	Yeah, it's a holistic nope, nope, nope, nope.
	Yeah, but I mean, do you guys think there's any hope left for the country or do you think that we're all screwed?
	Oh man, we are screwed.
	I know we're screwed.
	This is what institutional capture looks like.
	There are institutions in society that are never supposed to become political or ideological.
	Hospitals are supposed to focus solely on improving the lives of their patients, not some trans dogma.
	But once that firewall is breached, once ideology is the dominant force in hospitals, then people start getting hurt.
	By embracing the cult of WPATH and all of its unscientific barbarism, hospitals have abandoned the principle of doing no harm.
	Shit, guys.
	We're wrecked.
	Yeah, these hospitals are only out here to hurt people now, so I'm not going to the doctor anymore.
	Yeah, exactly.
	If I get sick, that's my problem.
	I'm going to go to Steven Crowder's house because he knows he can take care of me.
	Yeah, he'll get you dude, don't worry.
	But it's crazy to me how much Matt's gone from like deeply disregarding human life to let him die on the boat, to like deeply caring about human life.
	And he doesn't even realize that an immigrant doctor might actually have the capability of learning to become a surgeon.
	Or even just a person of color doctor, doesn't have to be an immigrant, just somebody who doesn't look like him could be a surgeon.
	And let's be real, Matt could not be a surgeon.
	No.
	He's a dumb guy.
	That's it.
	That's literally it.
	And they may not be getting the opportunities to... Totally, yeah.
	And they might not have before.
	I mean, at the end of the day, there's nothing wrong with looking at the entire person that you're going to have as a resident at your hospital.
	There's nothing wrong with that at all.
	As a society, when we include our society and our society is represented in businesses and in our work and in our hospitals, it's going to be a better society.
	Yeah, but not when you're a, you know, a horrible misanthrope.
	You can just throw all that in the trash.
	That's very true.
	That's very true.
	You make a good point.
	I'm honestly like a bit shocked.
	The last time we listened to Matt Walsh has been, I don't know, a couple months.
	And I just didn't really... I didn't get this vibe from him.
	It was like bad, sucked, and it was awful and everything, but... Damn, I didn't realize that he was like this mad about people being alive.
	He is so afraid of being marginalized in some way.
	He had an episode after this one that I was considering doing instead of this one where he played like video game clips and in one of them was a kid who I didn't watch the clip but I'm assuming was a person of color of some kind and there was some guy who was being like hey you need to go back to where you're from and he's like fuck you I'm American he's like I'm gonna build the wall And apparently that interaction was indoctrinating kids because a racist existed and it freaked him out.
	He's deathly afraid of becoming a minority.
	It's so scary to him.
	That whole Great Replacement thing.
	Exactly.
	He is just Great Replacement if it was a podcast.
	Remember when that was considered like Overtly.
	I mean, it is overtly racist, but when it was like unsayable for a little bit.
	Oh, now it's not at all.
	Yeah.
	Now it just seems... Now you say it and people will be... MGT will be there to help you out.
	God, it's... MTG.
	Not MGT.
	Machine Gun Kelly.
	MGK.
	Yeah, different guy.
	Different problems.
	Weird vampire style.
	That clip was the end of the show and I'm thankful it was the end of the show because I was about to have to go and see a person of color doctor to deal with me slamming my head on the desk.
	Oh yeah, that's what it feels like over here right now.
	Thanks for helping me feel better, Dennis.
	I could not, I don't, I can't handle Matt.
	He's so hard.
	That was all I could handle.
	What did we learn?
	Not much about anything.
	He maybe needs to take a break.
	That's what I think.
	He does need to take a break.
	Maybe he's just been like too hard in it, you know?
	No one's calling him on it.
	His editors, he ran out of an editing budget, you know, months ago.
	So he's just like saying shit.
	No one's really checking him on it and he's just sending it into the void it sounds like.
	He's just sending it.
	A lot of these boys have just been kind of hanging out in the media cycle, not really like saying much other than their personal opinion lately.
	What's his network?
	Well, he's part of the Daily Wire.
	It's him and Ben.
	He's probably going to be on a rap with Tom McDonald soon.
	That's cool.
	I guess we can say, if you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
	You can reach us on x at Van Crowder.
	I don't know, man.
	I guess if you were Matt and you're like, I don't appreciate your thoughts on my stuff.
	It would be really great if you rate and reviewed this episode.
	It doesn't take too long.
	Just take a second, take a deep breath, go into your app.
	You're already on the app.
	You found us.
	Call your Congress people, tell them not to ban us.
	There is a Supreme Court case trying to get us off the internet right now.
	It's gonna be pretty wild.
	Ted Raphael Cruz is staring us down right now.
	Yeah, that sucks.
	But yeah, someone did do that.
	This is Tori W. Douglas.
	Ooh, a new review?
	Yeah, said, thank the algorithm, five stars.
	I don't think I would ever have found this podcast on my own, but Apple Podcasts recommended it to me.
	White guys with excellent politics doing comedic analysis of a specific authoritarian influencer that I don't have the energy slash interest to keep tabs on.
	Excited to support this work.
	Thanks.
	Oh, that's great.
	The algo wins.
	Hashtag clean slate.
	I guess so.
	Turns out it worked.
	Dirty slates.
	Excuse me?
	Yeah, keep them dirty.
	Filthy.
	Filthy slates.
	It's like a cast iron.
	You know what I mean?
	This sucks.
	Yeah, Dennis, thank you so much for carrying me through this.
	I really appreciate it.
	Of course.
	I feel like trash, but next week, hopefully I won't, and we'll be able to knock out.
	I hope so.
	Jump back in, go on an adventure with Steven Crowder, because from, I don't know, you've heard the little snippets.
	He's not doing well.
	Things are not great in Crowder Town.
	Mm-mm.
	You think tomorrow's episode he's gonna be like, damn, leprechaun got into my house and beat the shit out of me.
	I'm feeling terrible.
	I love it.
	Until next time, for Jared, and Dennis, and Byron, take care.
	You've been listening to an AudioWall original, produced by Byron McCoy.

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