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Dec. 18, 2023 - Louder Than Crowder

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EPISODE 14: VACILLATION BLUES (DECEMBER 11TH, 2023)

Crowder and the Boys rest the content of the show entirely on the large shoulders (and thick neck) of Alex Jones after he was ceremoniously welcomed back to the X/Twitter platform by a gaggle of shitheads. And it's all thanks to the Mug Club subscribers...I guess? Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy

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	This is an AudioWool original.
	I threw up in my mouth.
	Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast.
	Louder with Crowder.
	My name's Byron.
	I'm joined tonight by Jared.
	And I'm dropping it real low after that theme song.
	I just, every, every week I'm dropping it low.
	Dennis too.
	Yeah, I'm here.
	I'm here.
	I'm ready.
	Hey.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	When did you step in?
	I just got back, man.
	Nice.
	He was on the last episode.
	I don't know.
	That wasn't me.
	All right.
	AI.
	It was Grock.
	Oh God.
	What's Grock?
	Grok is X's new AI thing.
	Grok?
	Yeah.
	Grok is apparently woke.
	Elon wanted to lobotomize Grok.
	Honestly, I don't even know what it is, but I do know tonight, big exclusive interview on the show.
	Hell yeah.
	We're gonna be covering the December 11th, 2023 episode of Louder with Grouter.
	It's a Monday.
	Monday.
	And following his ex-spaces with the brothers Tate, Jack Posobiec, Mike Flynn, Laura Loomer, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Elon himself, Alex Jones joined Steven and the boys to celebrate his reinstatement to the platform.
	Alex is back, nice.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's really most of the show today.
	There's a little racism and sexism up top, but uh... A sprinkling of sexism.
	Yeah, Dennis came... Dennis came early.
	Christmas came early.
	Another day, another cover.
	You're gonna like this one.
	90s, one hit wonder.
	Wonder.
	Yeah, a cover of Sex and Candy?
	Is it Macy's Playground?
	Yes, Sex and Candy.
	Macy's Playground, yeah.
	Is it Marcy?
	See, Jared, listen, I let you... No, you wrote these notes!
	Jared writes the notes for the first time ever.
	And he sets you up for failure, dude.
	Macy's Playground.
	And Macy's is a department store.
	Marvon Macy's Playground.
	Had the sex and candy.
	So far, I'm less impressed with this one than most.
	Yeah, it does rely on the visuals which are just drag show situations involving children.
	And not all of them though.
	That's true.
	Some of them are like, there's clearly just an adult audience intertwined with Drake Queens at puppet shows.
	Yeah, because what he wants to do is make it seem like the sexualized drag shows are the same as events including children.
	It's just a fucking terrible cover.
	He didn't even change the words.
	Yeah.
	Nope, nope.
	But it's what he says at the end of this song that rubbed me wronger.
	Rubbed you wronger?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Nice, nice.
	I like that.
	No mom or dad here to provide any protection.
	Mama, I'm living out my dream.
	Dig it.
	Yeah, mama, let's end this horrid dream.
	End it.
	Where's Gary Plowsh when he's needed?
	Hey mama, let's end it for the kid.
	Yeah, so I mean, it's all really gross, but the Gary Plouch thing is super fucked.
	Dennis, do you know anything about Gary?
	No.
	Okay.
	You've honestly probably seen the video.
	You might have seen the clip.
	It's been referenced a lot of times.
	Yeah, and more than once by Steven.
	But yeah, he gained notoriety for a violent and highly publicized incident that occurred in 1984.
	In 1983, his son Jody was sexually assaulted by his karate instructor Jeffrey Ducey.
	It had been going on for a year before Ducey kidnapped Jody and took him to an Anaheim motel.
	He was the focus of a nationwide search and eventually was found after Jeffrey allowed the boy to place a collect call to his mother from a hotel.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Oh, I remember this video.
	Yeah on March 16th 1984 Gary. Oh, I remember this video.
	Yeah. Yeah confronted him at the Baton Rouge Metropolitan Airport and as do say was being escorted by
	law enforcement in handcuffs Plush approached him and shot him in the head with a revolver
	on TV, right? Yeah Yeah.
	The entire thing was captured on camera by a local television crew and the footage was broadcast widely.
	He was standing behind all of the movement on a payphone, right?
	Yeah, he was, like, hiding.
	He was on a payphone, like, pretending to talk on a payphone, and he walked by.
	I remember this.
	Yeah.
	So, is this Stephen calling for the, like, murder of transgender people?
	Is that what I understand?
	Yeah, it was.
	And just to wrap up the Gary story, just so people know the resolution, even though it was premeditated, he eventually pled no contest to manslaughter and was sentenced to seven years in prison, but he only served, like, a fraction of that.
	Yeah, it was, like, months.
	Like, a couple of months.
	It was not long, yeah.
	Okay.
	And he became kind of a vigilante folk hero to people like Stephen.
	Sure, sure.
	And like I said, not the first time that Stephen's brought up.
	I think it was like a couple months ago I heard him mention Gary.
	But what Stephen never talks about, and we'll get to what you were saying in a second, is how this all affected Jodi.
	The cumulative effect of the sexual assaults and then witnessing the shooting, his dad.
	Yeah.
	That's profound trauma.
	Yeah, of course, of course, yeah.
	That Stephen's calling for more of?
	Well, I don't think you understand, Byron.
	See, sometimes men will wear women's clothing.
	Sure.
	And so that's deeply offensive.
	Similar to kidnapping and sexual assault of a child.
	Basically the same thing.
	I hadn't thought of it that way, Dennis.
	I'm just an everyman.
	Don't worry.
	Stephen will help you understand.
	I'm glad you mentioned it.
	This entire thing just reminds me of when Montana had this debate around public drag shows.
	Yeah.
	That was happening.
	Yeah, military bases.
	It was in Great Falls outside Malmstrom.
	There was a bill for it.
	Yeah, I think it was in response to an on-base drag show that was being proposed.
	But there was like, there were these bills to try and ban these public drag shows here.
	People have this insane idea that it's like adult content and like drag is like a circle.
	It's not, it's like there's a Venn diagram.
	There's overlap, of course, like there's for everything.
	In art there will be adult versions, always.
	Classic Rule 34 shit, right?
	Yes.
	It's not a circle.
	It's not like every drag show is... It's like saying that every picture is a nude picture.
	It's just not like that.
	The thing is that it's really easy to fearmonger.
	So that's what Steven does.
	That's what a lot of people do.
	And it's stupid.
	It's more than that when you are implying that all drag performers should be shot in the head.
	They should be Gary Plowshade.
	It's fucked up.
	Good job, Steve.
	You did it again, Steve!
	We love this.
	Did you say this episode was gonna be fun when we started?
	Well... Oh, we started off with, like, if you can think of the Marcy Playground song, like, that was kind of fun.
	Is it Marcy?
	It's Marcy's Playground.
	Yeah, Marcy Playground.
	I don't fucking know.
	Pluralized, even.
	All I know is it was on Now That's What I Call Music, Volume 3.
	3, of course.
	And that was a fun time.
	We're, like, we're not even 10 years old, you know?
	Yeah.
	We had just all turned 10, probably.
	Just turned 10, playing Tony Hawk Pro Skater Demo Disc.
	Oh, of course, from Pizza Hut.
	Alright, okay, enough being 35-year-old.
	But listen, maybe that's it.
	We need to relate to him.
	Because we're constantly making the same references.
	Maybe that's why he does it too.
	Oh yeah, what, like quoting Jerry Maguire all the time?
	All the time.
	He did it again!
	I've never seen Jerry Maguire.
	I haven't either!
	Show me the money.
	I just know that the little boy in it says that the human head weighs 10 pounds or something.
	Jonathan Lipnicki?
	That's the guy.
	Speaking of guys, no one in third chair today.
	Nobody.
	Because... Alex Jones is on the show today.
	Alex Jones is going to be on the show here in about 20 minutes.
	So we'll be talking about that and we don't have anyone in third chair because Alex Jones is on the show.
	He's back on X, back on Twitter.
	That's a big story.
	And, you know, this is why Mug Club exists.
	This is why we re-platformed people like Alex Jones, like Nick DiPaolo, people like Brian Campbell, all of those folks.
	And your support has made this happen.
	Confusing.
	So another countdown to build anticipation.
	He loves applying those 20 minutes.
	Big story, that is the reason that Mug Club exists.
	An alternative platform that gets folks back on old platforms.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's the whole reason Mug Club was founded, was specifically to unban people on Twitter.
	Yeah, to remove them from the new platform they created to financially sustain their operation.
	Yep.
	Don't think about it too much.
	I got to thinking though, he mentions Mug Club, people like Brian and Nick.
	They weren't deplatformed, to my knowledge, from Twitter.
	He just wanted to name everyone who's on his platform.
	When in doubt, shout them out.
	Yeah, I did some digging.
	I found a tweet from Nick DiPaolo in April of 2018 saying, Hey guys, yes it's true, atseriousxm fired me for a poorly worded tweet that warranted suspension at best.
	In my opinion, it's a total overreaction on their part, but these are the times we live in.
	Don't worry, I will resurface soon.
	Thanks for all your support.
	Hashtag NickIsRight.
	Is there any link to the tweet?
	He didn't link to the tweet.
	The tweet was deleted, but I bet you're curious about what the tweet is.
	I definitely am, but I also love that it got cancelled from SiriusXM.
	Yeah, I mean, they're the homes of what, like the Raw Dog Comedy Hour?
	The 20 listeners of SiriusXM!
	Did they recently cancel Alice Cooper?
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	Look that up while I read this dang tweet here.
	It was on the 19th anniversary of the Columbine school shooting, Nick posted, Dear future school shooter, please confine yourself to college campuses, specifically faculty lounges at Berkeley, Fresno State, etc.
	He did delete it, but not quick enough.
	How do you describe that?
	A poorly worded tweet?
	How do you word that differently?
	Sorry guys, I abbreviated college.
	That's why they banned me.
	Ridiculous.
	I did see something about Patreon threatening to kick him off, but it was all in his own words and he didn't show any sort of receipts.
	He's the victim, of course.
	Martyrs, dude.
	Martyrdom!
	Brian, on the other hand, I couldn't find any social media platforms that he was censored on.
	He was forced out or left the podcast Fighter and the Kid for a bit.
	And he was dropped by his agency after a few credible rape and sexual assault allegations.
	But a Netflix show that he was going to do was scrapped ahead of all of this because he was doing it with Chris D'Elia, who got canceled a month earlier for his own grooming accusation.
	Yeah.
	A lot of fun stuff.
	How long do you think until Matt Rife is on Steven's show?
	I mean, honestly?
	I bet he's on it.
	I bet he ends up on it.
	I bet he guests at least on Tucker Carlson's program.
	Probably.
	That'd be my guess.
	Yeah.
	But Dennis, I did discover that Brian is at the Spokane Comedy Club for the next four days.
	Are we going?
	I don't know.
	It's the same club I saw Steven and Josh Feierstein a while back.
	It could be a good weekend.
	I don't know.
	It's a couple hours away, but... Fucking A, man.
	Maybe.
	Either way, thanks for your support, Mug Clubbers.
	Apparently you're the ones making all of this happen.
	That's right.
	You are the reason that Alex Jones had his rights restored on Twitter.
	Of course.
	On X. Also, I love that they call it X, and then they also call it Twitter interchangeably.
	If you want it to be X, you have to let Twitter die.
	We have a Mug Club scoop update.
	That's what I need right now.
	The Nashville shooter at the manifesto, their investigation, inconclusive.
	So all the officers who they laid off wrongfully, sorry, with pay, are back on the force and they said, we don't know, we don't know.
	They didn't do anything!
	Just to be clear.
	What?
	Remember they said they were going to sue us and get the FBI involved?
	We didn't receive so much as a cease and desist or a text.
	So we'll get into it later, but let's just say it's not the last time you're going to hear cool in the gang celebration.
	Great.
	Does he just want to be a martyr for this?
	He is the king martyr this week.
	Well, it's been actually kind of a long time coming, hasn't it been?
	Like I said, no third chair, but we still have a former Somalian active bigot.
	What?
	To introduce.
	He's also in full LeFou mode, which I learned, Dennis, translates to the fool in French.
	Okay.
	You remember Gaston's friend LeFou?
	His lackey?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Number two, Captain Morgan.
	How are you, sir?
	I'm doing well.
	Not, I mean, I wanted to be original, but I almost, I hurt my neck.
	Yeah, I'll say it.
	Fools shouldn't have babies.
	And again with this joke.
	Again.
	There's only two ways you injure your neck.
	And one is now?
	Yeah, I'll say it. Fools shouldn't have babies.
	And again with this joke, again. There's only two ways you injure your neck.
	And one is now dropping your child.
	I guess.
	Yeah.
	And so maybe he doesn't actually know.
	I don't remember.
	I don't remember the joke.
	This is from Curb Your Enthusiasm.
	This is a Larry David joke.
	And he just keeps recycling.
	Yes.
	This is where it comes from.
	I remember hearing it.
	Yeah.
	He would like that.
	But I mean, it's like everyone loves Larry, but it's you know, he's all the villains on the show.
	Yeah.
	Gerald's just copying his boss.
	Yeah, and that's fine, I guess.
	It's fine.
	He has kids?
	I'm also hurting that guy.
	He has a couple kids.
	Yeah, but he seems like he shouldn't be responsible for them if he's gonna be doing this.
	It's just funny to think about these guys as parents because like I remember like growing up and our dads doing weird silly things.
	Sure.
	And at least they weren't like bigots on the internet.
	Yeah, at least they didn't have a hateful broadcast.
	They might have been in like some like racist ICQ chats or something.
	Yeah, well... I hope not.
	I hope not, too.
	But speaking of responsible... You guys made it happen, Mug Club.
	These, you know, the wins are... we get it.
	They're important for you to see.
	All right.
	Manifesto release, okay.
	Now everyone else that they've seen the risk has been taken.
	They're willing to bring Alex back on.
	It doesn't matter whether you agree with him or not.
	I agree with him on maybe 70% of things.
	70%?
	But you saw what happened once they got rid of him first.
	It's weird he never talks about the 30% with Alex.
	never holds him accountable for the beliefs he doesn't share.
	He's just saying that because he wants to have an out if Alex goes a little too off the rails.
	Of course.
	He just wants to have like a safety net.
	You put him on your platform, Stephen.
	I think he agrees with more than 70 percent.
	He does.
	But he won't publicly share the extra 20.
	It's just his shield.
	That's all.
	He has a 30% shield.
	He doesn't want the smoke.
	Alex Jones could outsmoke him any day.
	You think so?
	With them big ol' cigars.
	Oh yeah, look it, come on.
	And remember Ash Wednesday, Steven's program where he does an interview while smoking cigars?
	I don't remember that.
	We'll have to do one of those soon.
	Yeah, we should check it out.
	We have one called Cash Wednesday where we just go and- We count money.
	Yeah, we count money while we do it.
	Alright.
	Some serious self-horn tooting going on here.
	Certainly undeserved.
	No, this is because of Mug Club.
	He does this the whole episode.
	He really loves to flex on this episode.
	It's very strange.
	He states it as if it matters, but the premise doesn't make sense.
	Mug Club didn't do anything.
	Yeah, his listeners did it.
	And honestly, Steven didn't do anything.
	They never once mentioned that all of this is because of Tucker Carlson.
	How's the petition going, by the way, that petition?
	We'll talk a little bit about that in a bit.
	But back to that last thing he said, that Alex Jones was the first person removed.
	He wasn't.
	From Twitter?
	Yeah.
	Knowledge Fight- Ever?
	No!
	It's stated as if that's what they mean, but it's not true.
	The Knowledge Fight folks did some digging on their podcast.
	Plenty of folks were banned from Twitter before Alex.
	Milo Yiannopoulos, Tommy Robinson, Gavin McGinnis.
	I forgot about Milo.
	Yeah, remember he made fun of me.
	He told me that not even my dog would love me after he saw my avatar of me and my dog.
	What?
	Yeah, I do recall.
	Yeah, that stunk.
	Thanks, Milo.
	Yeah.
	Roger Stone.
	Is that why you got banned?
	Yeah, I reported him for bullying.
	And then he went and worked for Ye.
	So you're the one who started it, actually.
	No, we were on Telegram, so it's... Oh, okay, okay, cool.
	Roger Stone was banned, Owen Benjamin was banned before Alex, and that's just a handful of shitheads.
	Just a couple of them.
	Plenty of folks.
	Just a few.
	He was not the first.
	Lazy, but if you thought last week's, last Tuesday's episode was lazy, this is gonna be fun.
	Nice, this is relax on the beach.
	So here's a quick, a little quick story for you.
	Here's a female podcaster.
	Great, good start.
	I threw up in my mouth.
	She says that men fantasize about dating a feminist, but then they can't actually handle having her.
	Because, no, no, it's true, just so you know.
	I haven't seen this one yet.
	She's so strong.
	It was added late.
	She's so strong and good That men are like, I want weak and bad.
	Here.
	The empowered woman has become the new kind of fantasy.
	Like it's kind of cool for men to be dating.
	And again, it shines on them.
	They're not ready with us being full human beings in that sense.
	It's actually worse.
	For me, anyways, when I'm with a person like that, because then it kind of feels like gaslighting, right?
	It kind of feels like, wait, you're telling me you want the fantasy.
	He's not just this, like, cool feminist, like, cutout that you get to parade around and say, look how strong of a man I am, that I have a feminist-empowered girlfriend.
	Oh, you have a tough time keeping that, man?
	Are you just as lovely with him behind closed doors as you are here?
	Imagine having to live with that.
	Yes.
	Yes, this completely normal woman.
	Oh my god.
	We know how that went for him before.
	That was probably the most uncomfortable, cringeworthy thing I've heard Stephen do in a while.
	First of all, podcasting is a man's profession.
	It is, absolutely, for sure, yeah.
	I've never heard a woman's voice until that clip, actually.
	Well, and when I do, I throw up.
	Yeah, a little throw up.
	What the hell's wrong with him?
	I don't know.
	Let's start with how old this TikTok is, also.
	Yeah, how old is it?
	It's from March.
	Okay.
	You dig in on this one a little bit, huh?
	I did a little, yeah.
	It's from an episode of the Man Enough Podcast, which is a Webby-nominated audio and video podcast that explores what it means to be a man today and how rigid gender roles have affected all people.
	The show creates a safe environment for a range of perspectives to meet and stay at the table, exploring how the messages of masculinity show up in relationships, body image, privilege, fatherhood, sex, success, mental health, and so much more.
	Instead of polarizing and demonizing men and masculinity, it invites all humans to participate and thrive in the world.
	Dennis, you're making such a mess on this desk.
	I don't think that he knows anything about this podcast.
	He doesn't.
	He truly just saw an old TikTok pop up in his 4U feed.
	Exactly, yeah.
	The algorithm fed him his hate and then he hated it.
	He started seething.
	It's so obvious that he's like he's the villain of the of the other podcast like he is the villain yeah and he's punching maybe not down really I guess sideways in this and he doesn't really like he's trying to punch down yeah exactly he doesn't make any contact at all yeah and just for more context one of the co-hosts of this show was talking about Sarah Brady sharing those texts from Jonah Hill do you remember when that came out?
	I don't.
	She's a professional surfer who's dating Jonah Hill, the actor.
	There was some kind of controlling text messages that were rather abusive from Jonah Hill talking about how she shouldn't be surfing with other men or posting bikini pictures on Instagram.
	Yeah, just fully bummer stuff coming from this dude who everyone's like, you know, he's kind of a darling, like everyone kind of thinks of him as that way.
	Yeah, it's a bummer.
	It started a lot of conversation about weaponizing therapy language because he talked a lot about his boundaries.
	It sparked up a lot of pretty valuable conversation around that.
	Yeah, but was it a woman talking?
	In this case it was, so... Yeah, no, I'll pass.
	Not worth listening to, I guess.
	Yeah, I'll pass.
	As Jared always says, lukewarm taketh a week.
	Just imagine finding Steven on, like, Bumble and, like, he posts a clip like this.
	Listen to my podcast, and I don't know how Bumble works as far as like- I was gonna say, can you post full episodes of your podcast on Bumble?
	You can do, like, audio recordings.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Uh, just, yeah, I mean, just- Well, I think we got- You're being dumb, man.
	Yeah, we got more clips of this, though, I think.
	But did- Wait, what?
	Jer?
	You guys hear the alarms going off right now though, right?
	I do in the distance.
	It's about to get a little kaiju-y in here.
	It's about to get a little divorcee in here if you know what I'm saying.
	First off, none of that is true.
	None of that is true.
	A guy isn't like, yeah, yeah, let's roleplay.
	Tell someone you're giving them a raise.
	Cool, look, hey guys, when guys want women who are strong, they want women who are strong of character, women who they can trust, women who they can trust in a relationship, as a mother, and of course, women who are trustworthy in general, which would lend itself to being a... The problem here is if you constantly have to tell everyone that you're a boss, you're probably not, and you're probably a dick.
	Now what I mean by that is... Well, the female version of that.
	Yes, yes.
	Well, still, the same applies.
	I'm just, I don't want to be sexist with it.
	I appreciate that.
	Damn, you guys know that the new gripe against women just dropped?
	Did you hear that?
	No, no.
	Stephen's sick of this.
	When you close the bedroom door behind you, and you just start drafting contract agreements?
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	When she seductively removes her glasses, you guys, she brings them to her mouth, you know what I'm saying?
	She huffs on the lenses to clean them with her shirt, her blouse.
	So that you can continue reading the Stiff Jeans Addendum in Stephen's Bedroom TOS!
	Oh, no.
	Didn't Stephen like really get off on NDAs though for a while?
	I thought he's an NDA guy.
	He was a bit of an NDA guy.
	Yeah, I bet he would really, he'd probably get pretty hard from a woman reading an NDA.
	He gets really hard with the very literal interpretation of Girlboss.
	Yeah, of course.
	Man, we've just, we've been down this road so many times with Stephen in this topic.
	He doesn't know what feminism is.
	He doesn't know what women want.
	He should watch the Mel Gibson movie.
	He should.
	He should also listen to Christina Aguilera's What a Girl Wants.
	Great point!
	Actually, I don't even know what the lyrics are for that.
	They're probably problematic.
	This would be Steven's era, we could ask him about it.
	Yeah, we could ask him.
	Hey Steven, for your next cover, can you do a cover of What a Girl Wants by Christina Aguilera, please?
	Thank you so much.
	You know, girls girl bossing, you know, it's just guys being like, what's up, pimp?
	You know, kind of the same thing.
	You're hustling hard out here on these streets.
	Go get it!
	It's clear as day.
	Yeah, it's just every day I'm hustling in female language.
	Not everyone likes the pimp thing, but you know.
	Speaking of being a literal boss.
	Okay.
	It's the holiday season.
	It is the holiday season.
	And Stephen doesn't want to have any of that.
	Okay.
	If you go to the Christmas party, you are no longer the boss.
	If you are at a social gathering, you're not the boss.
	You're a human being on a level playing field.
	And for some reason, women, I guarantee you, this person will let everyone know that they are the boss.
	Right.
	Yeah, it's probably... Even confuse them.
	He's so mad about what?
	The literal Steve Carell coming in and making a scene at the office party, I guess.
	My humble opinion, I think Steven wants to cut loose at the Christmas party.
	I think he wants to sack tap into the night.
	He does.
	He definitely does.
	Whoever passes out first, you know, I'm gonna drop my little oysters over their eyeballs.
	What?
	I wasn't the boss!
	It's a Christmas party!
	Gerald!
	That's the rules in, uh... Speaking of rules.
	The fundamental things that men want.
	What a man wants.
	What a man needs.
	One of the fundamental things that men desire is to be respected.
	And in this case, what she's doing is disrespecting her man the entire time by saying, I'm in charge.
	He just basically does what I say.
	And isn't he such a strong man for that?
	No, not at all.
	Like you're completely missing the mark.
	Probably going to be single for a long time.
	Get used to it.
	And misusing the term gaslighting.
	Yes.
	So they say that they want a strong woman, and then they get a strong woman, and then it's like they don't want to parade me around.
	So that's like gaslighting.
	First off, I guarantee you none of those things happened.
	Second, even if they did, it's not gaslighting.
	Third, this is why you're unlikable.
	You're a bitch!
	Well...
	...
	...
	Yeah.
	So are they implying that if you are strong that you have to be disrespectful to people?
	Like, my parents disrespected me because they were the leaders of my family, is that what you're saying?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	I just wanna make sure I understand how respect works.
	So yeah, so if somebody has any sense of leadership, everyone who they lead is being disrespected.
	Okay.
	It's weird because it goes only in one direction.
	Yeah, isn't that wild?
	Saying this man's going to get paraded around because the girl's the boss, I guess.
	Just the very literal sense of what this is.
	It's very strange.
	The bottom line is that men and women both want to be respected.
	I don't know why he's gendering fundamental needs.
	Well, it's because what they're identifying is that disrespecting women makes them strong in their eyes.
	Yes.
	Yep.
	They're just showing how fragile their sense of strength is.
	I guess, yeah.
	Yeah, I'm sorry that if you have a wife that will not let you take the car or whatever.
	We're back to the car.
	And yes, I really truly think that Steven most definitely absolutely gaslit someone over the weekend and got called out for it, right?
	But if I've learned anything from this show It's that rich people will always... I don't know.
	Come on.
	Rich men always marry... Oh, waitresses.
	Yes.
	Jeff Bezos will marry a waitress!
	Yes.
	Jeff Bezos' ex-wife, the richest woman in the world for doing nothing, married a school teacher and then divorced him because he didn't make enough money and she couldn't respect him.
	Yes!
	I didn't know this!
	She's like, I just want to go back to normal life.
	And then she realized what normal life was like.
	She's like, uh, no.
	I want to go back to the bald, steroided out, globalist supervillain.
	We don't care.
	We don't.
	I think they care.
	I think they care a lot.
	A little page 7 going on over here.
	Yeah.
	Did Steven finally find out how much his wife wants in the divorce?
	Exactly.
	I think that his wife is now dating a school teacher.
	And he's really upset about it.
	You know, he hates those.
	He hates it.
	He saw like a youth choir concert.
	His ex-wife like waving to the choir teacher being like, Hey!
	It wasn't even a good version of Up on the Rooftop.
	Click, click, click.
	Click, click, click.
	All right, this next story, I don't know why we're talking about it, but I have a theory.
	Okay.
	As to why, and we'll get into that.
	But Dennis, you like baseball?
	I love baseball.
	You were a big Mariners guy, right?
	Yeah, I played baseball for nine years, and then it just took me nine years to realize I sucked at baseball.
	Yeah, you were all right.
	We played against each other in Little League.
	Yeah.
	You witnessed me get my nose exploded by a ball, right?
	I don't remember.
	Oh no, that was another friend who was playing against Simon Birch.
	When I was in fifth grade, I got hit in the eye with a baseball and I had a big old like black eye.
	And I remember my teacher asking me what happened to my eye.
	And I was like, I got hit with a baseball.
	And he was like, did you?
	CPS, huh?
	Yeah.
	And I was like, yeah, dude, I fucking remember.
	Anyway, yes, I love baseball.
	Injuries and everything.
	I can't let this walk.
	Was the, uh, much like he would in baseball.
	After three balls, four balls, right?
	Four balls.
	Was your teammate Simon Birch?
	I don't know the reference.
	Ah, fuck!
	Hopefully the listeners will get it.
	Okay.
	The guy who did hit me in the face with the ball was killed by his best friend with a shotgun, though.
	Oh my god, what?
	What the fuck?
	Jesus Christ.
	Do we have a clip?
	Can we get away from this?
	Another story really quickly.
	A Japanese superstar, and I say that because I have to and I don't know who he is.
	He is?
	But his name is Shohei Otani.
	I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly.
	He just signed a 700 million dollar contract.
	Dang!
	With the L.A.
	Dodgers this weekend.
	Great work, Shohei.
	He doesn't know who he is.
	I mean, I don't know who he is.
	He's an incredible baseball player, apparently.
	You remember when Ichiro Suzuki was around, yeah?
	Yes.
	Japan loves this guy.
	I mean, and now we do.
	They're huge, huge fans of him.
	Yeah, yeah.
	$700 million.
	Yeah, he's making so much money.
	What's the relevance here?
	Well... I only say that because I know it's gonna go off the rails.
	So I'm...
	Curious where it's going.
	Sure.
	They spend way more time calculating taxes than figuring out who this person is.
	Okay.
	A little bit of corny anti-government behavior.
	He hasn't maybe realized the government is going to take most of it because you hear 70 million dollars and you're like, wow, that's a lot of money.
	We've added up the taxes.
	Yes.
	Oh no.
	$70 million, take away $25.9 million in federal tax, $4.65 million in California tax, $2.1 million to an agent, $2 million for a jock tax, I'm not quite clear on what that is, and then $1.64 for FICA Medicare, so that leaves him with $33.6 million net after that.
	Which is still a lot of money.
	Of course it's a lot of money, but it's not $70.
	But it's certainly not $70.
	Yeah, he just gets ripped.
	And the jock tax, I believe, is when you play in other states.
	They're like, well, you could just divide up your paycheck for the number of games and you have to pay the taxes in that state for what you made performing on the field for those three hours.
	Yes.
	I'm not kidding.
	Every state just has to have their little greedy paws and stuff.
	That's just how it works.
	And just to be clear, his jock tax is lower than, say, the average NBA players.
	It's a narrower bandwidth.
	Cool.
	Now, it's not our fault.
	Yeah, were you ready for that?
	Facts!
	Matter.
	It stings less.
	But you know what?
	Some people say, like, I don't even want, I don't want the NBA jock tax.
	Your jock tax is perfect.
	This is all just an Asian stereotype small dick joke setup.
	The entire segment.
	Great.
	Can you believe it?
	Such an elaborate dick joke.
	Yeah.
	And you were expecting this or no?
	No, I did not expect it.
	Even the taxes rant was dumb.
	No, they just had to, they just had to do a little bit of filler.
	But Asians, uh, you know, historically with the small dick joke, right?
	Like I've never, again, I've never heard that.
	And that's very funny.
	Congrats to these guys.
	Joke of the year.
	It's late.
	It's late in 2023 boys, but you pulled it out.
	16 days left.
	We love this.
	Incredible.
	Just to finish that thought, $680 million.
	This guy defers of his contract, right?
	Huh.
	Okay.
	I don't know what that means.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm dumb.
	Okay.
	So, so he signs a $700 million deal, right?
	And so he says, actually $680 million of that, I'm only going to take 97% of my earnings.
	And then the rest of it will be paid out in between 2034 and 2043 when that's in, you know, 10 years when he's likely retiring on his way out of the sport.
	This will also help the Dodgers sign more guys because he's not taking a lump sum or you know, obviously it's not a lump sum, but it's just incremental obviously off the 700 million.
	And then additionally Otani stands, I believe I said it right, Otani, right?
	He stands to make at least 45 to 50 million dollars a year annually with endorsements.
	So if they want to do their stupid tax breakdown with that, feel free.
	You know, Dennis, you actually might remember this because you just mentioned that you were a Seattle Mariners guy, and you know who was also?
	You?
	Me, baby.
	Hell yeah.
	So to me, all this shit just smacks of Great Replacement Theory.
	You guys familiar?
	I'm familiar.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So just anecdotally, for whatever reason in my head, I'm recalling this whole thing that happened with Ken Griffey Jr.
	If you were from Montana, you were probably down with the Mariners or the Rockies.
	I was a Mariner, Dennis was a Mariner.
	Hell yeah.
	So he was the new cool guy on the scene.
	I like the Braves.
	Hey, my cousin liked the braids too.
	Chipper Jones, I like the name Chipper.
	Chipper, yes.
	And that's how we were choosing our guys.
	Chipper's a great name.
	Then Big Hurt, because that's how I felt.
	Frank Thomas, huh?
	Is that him?
	I think so.
	I played the game, I think, on Genesis.
	Yeah, I think the Big Hurt.
	The big unit, I think, was Randy Johnson from the Mariners.
	Interesting.
	Remember when he killed a bird?
	I do, I do.
	And to bring it back, he owns a hot dog place in Arizona with Alice Cooper, or he used to.
	Wait, Randy Johnson does?
	Yeah, yeah.
	He did, or he used to.
	He's also a sports photographer, and his logo is a dead bird.
	That's pretty cool.
	That's very cool.
	That's very cool.
	So, Ken Griffey Jr., he's the new guy in town.
	Everyone likes him.
	He's hitting these dingers.
	He's playing in the backfield.
	And he starts showing up to these warm-ups though, like the pre-games, and he's wearing his hat backwards and his shirt's untucked, right?
	And this freaks out all of these, at least in my hometown, all these older white guys.
	Buck Showalter, who is the or a Yankees manager, I'm not exactly sure, he commented on it and he said that Griffey was being disrespectful, like it was an insult to the game, that he was showing up with a backwards hat.
	After that, despite the league overall being predominantly white still, I would hear older fans complain that they didn't like the direction the league was going in.
	Why was this?
	And it was because it was less white than it used to be.
	You know, a little less representation.
	And so, you know, that was 1994, but just to kind of bring it up into like a more current this, you know, eight years ago, like a really easy one here is Jose Bautista, who played for the Toronto Blue Jays.
	He wrote this excellent article for the Players' Tribune Just telling the critics to suck eggs, you know?
	In the article, his team, the Toronto Blue Jays, tying up Game 5 of the ALDS.
	That's the American League Division Series.
	And that just says, you know, who will advance to the American League Championship Series.
	Anyway, he's on deck.
	They tie it up.
	He steps up.
	He smashes the ball out of the field.
	There's 50,000 screaming fans out there.
	Parks the ball.
	The crowd.
	The dugout.
	Everyone is erupting.
	It's madness, right?
	Jose, who's from the Dominican Republic, he tosses the bat, he just kind of throws it over his shoulder.
	Like a loose celebration toss?
	Yeah, shrug it off your shoulders.
	The adrenaline's spiking, he hits it, he blocks this thing, just totally out.
	He wins it for the team, right?
	But because of this, because he tosses this bat, he's been villainized for it for weeks.
	He's showboating, he's disrespectful, he's a disgrace to Latinos.
	He's not a role model.
	Latin America, this is not frowned upon.
	It's just sort of like, yeah, it's what we do here.
	Not even reacting.
	The guy just smashes the point.
	He parks this thing.
	He wins the game.
	And what?
	He's a villain because of it.
	Same old story.
	That's all.
	There's so many stories of this, of people of color celebrating the same way that white people celebrate, and then they get villainized for it.
	It's stupid.
	It just never stops.
	I mean, it's like, that's what I remember from being a kid, Ken Griffey, and then, you know, I don't really pay attention anymore to baseball, or the politics therein, but here we are.
	I mean, I stopped paying attention when it got ruined, you know, because the hats were facing the courts.
	Yeah.
	The sun was in their eyes.
	Honestly, it's hard to know what team someone's on if you can't see the front of their hat.
	Exactly.
	You'll only see the MLB logo.
	Exactly.
	I know what I'm watching.
	Major League Baseball.
	Yeah, I know the sport.
	Okay, listen.
	Well, you guys get it, you know, at least that.
	I get it.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Was there a dick joke in there or something?
	Jared, was there a dick joke in what you just said?
	Because I only want to hear long conversation if there's a dick joke at the end.
	Sorry, sorry.
	And you had a small penis when I talked.
	There it is, dude.
	There it is.
	And actually, it wasn't even like that it was small.
	It's just that it was smaller than any number of NBA players.
	Yes.
	Apparently.
	Gotcha.
	I like your salary just the way it is.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, they're still off YouTube currently.
	Well, they might be back today actually, but at the time of recording this episode, they were not.
	And they almost made things a lot worse for themselves.
	They also have a conspiracy theory about it.
	We're back on YouTube tomorrow?
	I think tomorrow.
	We're going to ask them.
	They keep changing the rules.
	Allegedly!
	Just to give you an idea, today it said that we were able to stream again, today on YouTube.
	We called to make sure!
	There's a countdown clock, it said it was gone, but then we did our own math and said, hold on a second, it seems like we should only be allowed tomorrow, called the representative at YouTube and said, oh yeah, sorry, that was our bad, and if you uploaded anything, all of your channels would have been removed.
	Permanently.
	I'm sure it was an oversight.
	So tomorrow, maybe get on that?
	Honest mistake, honest mistake.
	Yes, it was an honest, honest mistake.
	So... Did he think he was being tricked into accidentally getting himself deleted?
	That's the theory, yeah.
	They can't help themselves.
	Does he understand how just poorly managed a lot of companies are?
	Does he understand how quickly we're gonna run out of victim puns to title these episodes?
	Pump the brakes, save some for next season.
	Can this episode be called Putting the Dumb in Martyrdom?
	I guess, unless something else comes up.
	Steven's no longer sweating that he'll be going to jail for his sources, so it's time to reiterate that.
	Okay.
	Yeah, tell him.
	After a month of the Nashville Police, the Metro Nashville Police Department, they were looking for our manifesto leaker, and that of course is you guys, and you can send your tips to, is it LWC at ProtonMail, or LWCtips at ProtonMail.com.
	We will protect I've got a lot of information but I didn't want to disclose it because I was worried about going to jail but I'm glad that he will go to jail for me.
	I have a bunch of info but I can never remember the email address.
	I can't remember the email.
	Manifesto update time I've got a lot of information, but I didn't want to disclose it because I was worried about
	going to jail But I'm glad that he will go to jail for me
	I have a bunch of info, but I can never remember the email.
	I can't should we get him to go to jail well Should we test this?
	Allegedly!
	Allegedly!
	The MNPD has come up completely empty and they have said that the investigation is over.
	So good for you Mug Club, thank you.
	It's time to celebrate for that one, right?
	Here we go again.
	Oh god.
	DMCA'd over this.
	Come on.
	I lost the confetti.
	Toolman couldn't find the confetti button on his overlay board.
	Oh, dang.
	But also, the Nashville PD couldn't find anything, right?
	Yeah, nothing happened, right?
	That's not true.
	No?
	It's not completely, but he'd like you to believe that.
	Okay.
	They even tried to ask someone who they thought maybe was the person, but the person refused to be interviewed, and they said, alright.
	In the hunt for the person who leaked pages from a school shooter's journal to a conservative commentator, the department announced in an email sent to the media late on Friday.
	So in other words, you, Mug Club, ProtonMail, what we did, released the manifesto.
	You now know the truth about that shooting, or at least partial truth.
	We would love for the rest of the manifesto to be released.
	Regarding the motives of that shootout that the police department and media desperately didn't want you to know, they exhausted all investigative possibilities.
	Congratulations, Mug Club.
	You outfoxed the Nashville PD.
	What is this?
	I don't know.
	I'll tell you what it is.
	Visual Jared here.
	It's exactly what we talked about earlier.
	The sunglasses descend on the mug.
	Oh.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What did they call it?
	Mug Life?
	Is that what this is?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Not Thug Life.
	It's Mug Life.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Same idea.
	But I think the sunglasses remain on the mug in this anyhow.
	That's a cool mug.
	Would you be surprised to learn that he's leaving out some details?
	Yeah, no.
	Not quite outfoxed.
	From the same AP article that he was quoting, the Metro Nashville Police Department's Office of
	Professional Accountability led the investigation into the leak, interviewing officers and forensically
	examining their electronic devices according to police. Investigators determined that
	three cell phone photos were taken of the journals just after they were discovered in
	the shooter's vehicle by two detectives with the Specialized Investigations Division.
	One former police detective who had images from the journal declined interview requests.
	Quote, the department does not have the ability to compel statements or cooperation from former employees.
	I think it's fair to say that we could probably figure out who this person is.
	It's most likely them.
	I kind of have a feeling that things might not be as over as Steven thinks they are.
	Actually, you'd be amazed.
	The statute of limitations is like a week.
	Oh, is that how this works?
	Yeah, if they don't get you quickly.
	Yeah.
	You're not in any trouble after like a week.
	It's crazy.
	Well, they, I mean, they did say that the investigation was over, but what does that really mean?
	I mean, I don't know.
	Well, they celebrate either way.
	Yeah, they should.
	I think it's just pretty clear that Stephen wanted some more attention.
	Yeah, of course.
	We didn't even receive a cease and desist letter!
	A request for information!
	Nothing!
	I expected at least a phone call.
	It's all political theater!
	None of it is true!
	They had nothing, they found nobody, they did nothing.
	Why?
	Because they don't want you to look into it more.
	They had a focus group with Frank Luntz and his toupee and shitty little sneakers and they said it's probably best for us just let sleeping dogs lie.
	Which, by the way, is why you can still enter in your email at releasethemanifesto.com and they will release the rest of the manifesto, hopefully.
	Or at least we'll send that request so they feel the pressure.
	First thing I wrote down on this paper Stephen is constantly doing a third act Willy Wonka impersonation.
	He definitely is.
	Slamming down his little glasses.
	You get nothing!
	Good day!
	It's ridiculous.
	Also, I did sign the petition, unfortunately.
	It's not a petition.
	No, of course.
	Yeah, it said I opted into receiving emails.
	It's just an email list.
	Okay.
	And I was already signed up for his email list.
	Great.
	Awesome.
	Can we get a real petition going that outlaws fake petitions?
	I briefly looked into the laws of masking email lists as petitions.
	I couldn't find anything terribly clear.
	And we've only got a week or else it's gonna just be like, he's gonna be scot-free on it.
	We might have a lawyer listening.
	If anyone wants to, we have a ProtonMail.
	We have a ProtonMail.
	It's louderwithcrowder.net slash mail.
	We actually have louder than crowder at gmail.com.
	It's not Proton.
	If you do know more about that, I'd love to know.
	Like, that's an interesting thing.
	Yeah, it's pretty funny.
	I just want to say, Frank Lutz got shoes, man.
	He's got a lot of sneakers.
	What?
	Who's Frank Lutz?
	He just mentioned, he said that he hates his Frank Lutz and his stupid sneakers.
	Oh!
	From the Nashville PD.
	I wouldn't wear any of these, but he's got like some Jeremy Scotts that he's showing off and a lot of Nikes.
	That's kind of all over the place.
	I don't even know what Stephen's ranting about anymore.
	Is he saying that... Is he trying to claim that... So how it works with Stephen is he states something as if he's Willy Wonka and moves on as if it's fact.
	Okay.
	And no one questions him.
	He shouldn't be questioned because that's a sign of disrespect and he deserves all the respect.
	If he's not gonna give it to himself, then nobody else will, you know?
	So he has to really just, like, butter himself up to tell himself that he's doing a good job, that he's at least responsible for 10% of everything that we're gonna talk about on today's episode.
	Jared, you have to remember that the whole, you can't love someone until you love yourself is bullshit, so... You're right, you're right, you're right.
	So he can loudly state the National Manifesto leakers got away with it thanks to Mug Club.
	Thanks to Monk Club.
	You did it.
	And quote something from the same article that states... They identified people and they were former employees.
	Yeah, so... And also, sometimes things happen you don't know about.
	Like, he seems to imply that if something were to have happened, it would have been like he would have been directly involved.
	Just disappointment.
	Yeah, it's about to get a little bit more disappointing.
	Great.
	Time to discuss the re-platforming of Alex Jones.
	Yes!
	So for people who are a little new here, let me just give you a recap.
	Let's go back to then.
	Alex Jones, he was banned on all platforms.
	It all happened immediately.
	Immediately after what?
	So it's not a conspiracy when you say, well hold on a second, hold on a second.
	Everyone, Apple, Spotify, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, every single platform that existed, boom, he was gone.
	YouTube, of course, that day, August 6th.
	Then he was permanently banned, I believe, in September from Twitter.
	He wants to frame this like it happened overnight.
	Of course, it didn't.
	Alex had been pushing his luck with social media platforms for a long, long time.
	Yeah, of course, of course.
	Like Lee, like Steven, intentionally.
	Kind of weaponizing the strikes and turning them in for attention.
	Let's go back for a couple minutes.
	Let's do a real recap, unlike what Stephen just did.
	Well, I do have a bit of a recap.
	I know we don't typically do this, but can you play the real time with Bill Maher, the New Rules kind of music, you know?
	I'm unfamiliar with the second.
	I like the groovy bassline.
	Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.
	If you haven't heard...
	Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.
	Yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you.
	We've got Me Too, The Royal Wedding, God's Plan by Drake is topping the charts.
	Oh man, what a song.
	The Canadian national anthem became gender neutral.
	Did you know that?
	I don't even know the lyrics to that song.
	Yeah.
	And I'm going to run through a timeline of social media infractions pulled together by Molly McHugh at The Ringer in an article called The Timeline of Veselation, How Twitter Came to Suspend Alex Jones.
	And I'm sorry this might take a second.
	I think it's important.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm here for it.
	2018, February 23rd, YouTube issues the Alex Jones Channel its first strike for a video accusing Stoneman Douglas High School shooting survivor David Hogg of being a crisis actor.
	So much has happened since then, I completely forgot about it.
	That sounded, I thought that was in like 20, like 2010.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	No, it's been a busy couple years.
	February 27th, YouTube warns that Alex Jones' channels are one strike away from being removed after publishing a video on Parkland survivors and conspiracy theories.
	March 1st, Jerome Corsi's YouTube account, that's Infowars DC Bureau Chief, they had one of those briefly.
	Good.
	His was taken down, his YouTube, for bullying and harassment violating YouTube's three-strike policy, so it wasn't the first time for him.
	March 4th, YouTube informs CBS News that it will not remove Jones' channels but mentions advertisers requesting their ads not to be shown on all his videos.
	Sure.
	At this point, I was watching the Alex Jones Show on YouTube.
	It was a different era.
	Yeah.
	Surprising, right?
	Like, since 2018, it's just been at Infowars.com, which is a fucking really bad platform.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Its videos do not run very well there, but...
	April 23rd, YouTube temporarily pulls a video from Media Matters detailing Jones's conspiracy theories, but faces criticism and reinstates the video.
	Interesting.
	So they were posting it for critical means and they kept that one up.
	June 16th, Amazon faces criticism for distributing conspiracy theory documentaries including Jones's on its prime video service.
	Wow.
	This one's really interesting because Alex Jones has a documentary called Endgame.
	Okay.
	And the Avengers Endgame also came out.
	So a lot of people are finding this video looking for the latest Avengers movie.
	Where's Captain America?
	It's called Better Endgame.
	Better Endgame.
	Yeah, I think I want to watch that one.
	Yeah, that one sounds better.
	Yeah, so hopefully he didn't pill too many folks, but July 11th Facebook is criticized during a meeting about fighting quote fake news for hosting Alex Jones and Infowars on its platform.
	It was also obviously very popular on Facebook's streaming and I think this was like the peak of Of Infowars, because we had multiple streaming platforms broadcasting his transmission from Occupy Texas.
	It was fringe for a while, and then it definitely got mainstream around this time.
	Yeah, it's because it was so easy to split a feed out to YouTube, Facebook, and other streaming sites at the same time.
	July 18th, in a Recode interview, Mark Zuckerberg explains that posts about Jones' Sandy Hook shooting hoax theory can stay on Facebook since they don't directly confront victims.
	He distinguishes it from harassment, which would be taken down.
	Sure.
	And in that same interview, Zuck states that Facebook won't ban pages like InfoWars and Holocaust Deniers, deeming such actions too extreme.
	He acknowledges finding Holocaust denial abhorrent, but defends the decision, which is an interesting move, Zuck.
	Sure.
	July 23rd, Alex Jones threatens special counsel Robert Mueller in a YouTube video, making a hand gesture implying violence and accusing Mueller of covering up child abuse.
	A little bit of pizza gate mixed in there.
	Jones later pulls the video, but posts it on Facebook, where it's safe, of course, because he just had this Zuck defend his... Yeah, I guess at the time of this list being posted, it's still there, deemed not a credible threat on that platform.
	Great, okay.
	A couple days later, July 25th, YouTube removed several Alex Jones videos containing hate speech against Muslims and transgender people.
	I'm sorry to laugh.
	It's just like running down a list of infractions.
	Yeah, and acting like he's just innocent here.
	Yeah, along with one depicting child endangerment.
	This is the video where, I believe, a child got hurt or hit, which is strictly against... Sure.
	I mean, not just YouTube, but also Twitter.
	I believe it was one of the infractions that Twitter struck for.
	But this resulted in a YouTube strike for Jones' channel.
	Despite being the potential third strike, YouTube's policy states that the strikes expire after three months.
	So it's kind of a... You get a monthly strike, kind of?
	You can, that's what Steven's always trying to do is remain with two and kind of rotate them out.
	Like sick days at a bad job.
	Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Preventing an immediate ban.
	That's hitting a little too close for me.
	Yeah.
	Too relatable?
	The offending videos are bundled together resulting in one strike, which I do think that that's fair.
	If you were to suddenly get multiple strikes on six videos for content, you would be removed immediately.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Notably, the removed videos do not include the one where Jones threatened Mueller.
	Cool.
	At the Television Critics Association press tour, Facebook vice presidents acknowledged finding Infowars, quote, absolutely atrocious, but emphasized the challenge of balance of freedom and expression with safety.
	Another two days later, Facebook removes several videos similar to the videos that were removed on YouTube and suspends Alex Jones for 30 days citing violations of bullying and hate speech policies.
	However, the page remained active so people could, you know, respond to links to his videos.
	Totally.
	Yeah.
	August 1st!
	Spotify pulls several episodes of Jones' podcast, citing a violation of its hate content policy.
	It's interesting.
	I feel like Spotify... I don't know how tight their podcasting... Policies are?
	Yeah.
	This decision follows user complaints and is part of Spotify's broader content decisions, including the earlier reversal of a policy affecting artists like R. Kelly and XXXTentacion.
	I didn't know XXX had any issues, but they pulled R. Kelly's stuff for sure.
	And what did he do?
	I'm not sure.
	R. Kelly?
	Honestly, nothing really.
	Yeah, nothing really.
	I mean, nothing wrong anyway.
	That's what I thought.
	Jesus.
	Why did we do that?
	Sarcasm.
	I want to make sure it's very clear.
	Sarcasm.
	And then on the same day, Alex skipped the Sandy Hook lawsuit hearing, and we'll talk more about that later on in the show.
	August 2nd, Stitcher becomes the first distribution platform to remove Jones's entire podcast catalog.
	It's funny.
	They said everything happened at once overnight.
	Yeah, I mean, it's just a long day, dude.
	Kind of like how God created the Earth in seven days.
	Sure.
	That's quick stuff.
	But this is from, what, uh, February to August so far?
	So far, yeah.
	Okay.
	Overnight.
	Mm-hmm.
	August 6th, Facebook announces the permanent removal of four of Alex Jones's pages, including his personal page, due to repeated violations of community standards.
	Funny enough, my personal Facebook page was removed for advertising that I was going to be live streaming Alex Jones's documentary of him sneaking into Bohemian Grove.
	I remember that.
	That was a big deal because you're a moderator.
	Oh, so yeah, so they deleted my Facebook page and that of all of my moderators for my Facebook group.
	Me, my podcast co-host, both of them, and four of our writers' personal Facebook pages.
	Got deleted.
	Yeah, because I was advertising a Twitch livestream where I was going to be talking over his Bohemian Grove documentary.
	Wow, what a wild ride.
	You were collateral damage in the Alex Jones.
	I guess so.
	I was trying to fight the good fight, but look what happens.
	Now I'm Bane.
	Look at me now.
	You were only born on YouTube.
	I was simply off the internet before you were even born.
	I don't know.
	Is that what pain sounds like?
	That's pretty good.
	It's pretty close, yeah.
	Yeah, the content was cited for glorifying violence and using dehumanizing language against transgender individuals, Muslims, and immigrants, violating hate speech policies.
	That sounds about right.
	The night before, Apple removed Jones from its podcast network and YouTube takes down his channels.
	This is his D-Day.
	8-6-18.
	Including the Alex Jones channel.
	Additionally, Pinterest removed all the InfoWars pages.
	Who the fuck is pinning Alex Jones?
	Who has like an inspiration board with like...
	Oh, bigot ideas, boop!
	Maybe it's like a stringboard version of Pinterest.
	It could be.
	You know, like one of those conspiracies with the pins and the thread.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's all Hillary Clinton.
	All, yeah, all emails.
	That week, Twitter CEO at the time Jack Dorsey states in a series of tweets that Alex Jones, quote, hasn't violated our rules.
	He emphasizes the importance of journalists documenting, validating, and refuting accounts like Jones'.
	The next day... The next day?
	Weird, it should be all on the same day, right?
	Yeah.
	Amazon removes the Amazon Choice designation from all InfoWars products, but... He had that?
	I guess for Superman Vitality, who else is making weird veiled boner pills?
	This is the Amazon Choice snake oil!
	I didn't look into this, but is this the one that he later on might suggest for Vivek Ramaswamy?
	One of those fine pills?
	Uh-huh.
	August 12th, following the loss of Jones and InfoWars accounts across most platforms on August 6th, an influx of content is anonymously uploaded to Vimeo.
	However, Vimeo removes all of it over the weekend.
	August 14, Twitter puts Alex Jones' account on read-only mode, and he's restricted from tweeting or retweeting, but can still access the site, read content, send private messages.
	The decision is prompted by a clip in which Jones encourages his users to prepare their, quote, battle rifles, violating Twitter's standards and target harassment.
	The next day, Jack Dorsey conducts an interview with Lester Holt to explain Twitter's initial reluctance to ban Jones and the subsequent decision to do so temporarily.
	When asked about the events of August 14th, the day before, Dorsey mentions, quote, I believe we put him in a timeout for a time period.
	But yeah, eventually he did.
	Long days, man.
	That's one long day.
	Huge day.
	Yeah.
	Five months day.
	Well, we got, uh, we got Ye back this week too, didn't we?
	Oh no, did we?
	I think so.
	I want to say that we did.
	I saw him do a listening party for his new album, Vultures, where he was in a black KKK hood.
	Yeah, that sounds right.
	Yeah, well... Oh no, the Try Guys is changing too.
	What is going on in the world?
	I haven't looked at anything.
	Oh no, they're bringing the cheating guy back, aren't they?
	Folks, we spoke way too long.
	And I'm sorry that this seems to be becoming a habit, but I think we're gonna have to split this into two episodes.
	I mean, two's better than one.
	Well, listen... It's like offering two meals.
	It's like an all-you-can-listen buffet.
	You want one big meal or two small ones?
	I'm sure people would want one big one, but I don't have the time for that.
	Why don't you tell us on Twitter and then get that follow on there?
	That's a good point.
	At Van Crowder is where you can reach us.
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