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Sept. 16, 2023 - Louder Than Crowder

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EPISODE 3: TARRI-O NOOO (SEPTEMBER 6TH, 2023)

This week folks...stand back and stand by as we discuss feelings surrounding how many years the leader of the Proud Boys will be spending behind bars, how politicans use jobs numbers, and why Steven thinks they're being stolen by foreigners. Spoiler alert. It's cause he's racist. Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy

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	This is an Audio World Original.
	What a fucking nightmare!
	Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast.
	Louder with Crowder.
	My name is Byron.
	I'm joined tonight by Dennis.
	Slamming that water.
	Let's see, you got a big bottle of water.
	And Jared.
	Jug of water.
	I am also jugging up over here.
	Oh yeah, dude, big jugs.
	Is that fine?
	Big jugs tonight.
	Jesus.
	Come on, man.
	We live with big jugs.
	Guys, stop it.
	And today, we're going to be covering the September 6, 2023 show of Louder with Crowder.
	It's a Wednesday, a hump day.
	And boys, this episode is dry.
	Gotta stay hydrated.
	I'm tired, man.
	I'm tired of this.
	Tired of Steven.
	You're tired of Steven.
	What do you want, man?
	You just seem miserable.
	No, I am miserable.
	I'm about to listen to Steven Crowder for an hour.
	Lucky for you, Steve's misery streak.
	Heck yeah.
	Palpable.
	This guy hates this show.
	Hates being around.
	This show?
	Our show?
	Did he listen?
	I don't know.
	Hey, Steven.
	Hey, buddy.
	If you need to stop doing what you're doing.
	You could quit.
	You could quit.
	It's fine.
	There's other ways to make a paycheck.
	We're okay.
	If you shut down your show.
	I'm fine with stopping.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	That's okay with me.
	We could talk about other fun stuff.
	You get three episodes in and we get him to stop.
	We can't quit.
	That's all it takes.
	Dust our pants off here.
	We're gonna be focusing on three topics in this episode.
	O'Biden's job numbers.
	Nice.
	Another shocking, stomach-turning, whistle-blowing account from an Oregon high school.
	I don't know.
	More schools?
	Yep.
	Mug cub.
	Mug club.
	Mug cup.
	Undercover.
	Mug cup.
	Shit.
	Followed by a bunch of weird assumption and whataboutism surrounding the events of the Proud Boy leader Enrique Tarrio's sentencing.
	Okay.
	That part was...
	The most interesting, I think, because it's, I mean, he makes a great argument and just wait dear listener.
	But first some breaking news.
	Oh, I love breaking news.
	It's the best kind of news.
	Yeah.
	Jared, I know you're a, you're a YouTube Crowder viewer.
	I'm watching it on Tubes.
	That's right.
	Well, not for long.
	I received an email from Steven yesterday, subject line, YouTube suspended us again.
	Dear Mug Clubber, it happened again and for the most ridiculous reason yet.
	YouTube actually suspended us for a 15 month old video.
	Okay.
	I tried to find the video.
	It's kind of impossible.
	They're trying to cancel.
	We could deduce, of course, but... I mean, it'd be hard to deduce because there's so many things he probably would have... Yeah.
	Because it is just like a lot of deuce.
	Yeah.
	Great.
	Drop a deuce.
	Okay.
	We could drop a deduce.
	So it goes without saying, we won't be streaming on YouTube for the rest of this week.
	The YouTube suspension means we are now exclusively on Rumble slash Mug Club for the time being.
	I refuse to self-censor, except for, you know, every time on YouTube when he pushes the YouTube dump button where he censors himself.
	Sure.
	And we will accept the consequences.
	Why won't more conservatives do this?
	Steven, you don't have to be on YouTube.
	You can delete your channel.
	Yeah, it's totally fine.
	If you've had enough of censorship by tyrants in Silicon Valley, right now is the perfect time to join my club.
	I'm asking you to join the fight.
	Yada yada yada.
	I refuse to vote says man at election booth.
	The wider plan at LWC was to eventually slowly use these strikes to push people towards Mug Club and Rumble.
	You're probably not wrong, but I just it's such like a weird I don't know, I think that they like the victimizing.
	Of course, that's part of the plan too.
	That's why they walk the line.
	They're not going to try to get their account deleted.
	No, and they're certainly not going to delete it themselves.
	No, because then they'd lose listener viewers like Jared over here.
	Yeah, they won't be able to watch it, because you know I'm not going to watch it on freaking Rumble.
	You're not going to go to Rumble.com and watch a bunch of ads about an X account to get a Rumble account?
	I don't think so.
	I'm going to watch it on Bumble.
	It's a dating app, Dennis.
	That's fine.
	Is that the one where the guys respond first?
	I think it's ladies first.
	Can we have a podcast app where people have to ask us for a new show?
	Let's start the episode.
	This episode starts out with Steven again doing his best Tucker Carlson impersonation.
	So what is it that you think you don't like about the Proud Boys?
	Let's assume that you don't.
	All right.
	You can still hold that position and understand that it is a travesty of justice.
	For someone to be getting 22 years who wasn't there on January 6th, committed no violence, and encouraged no violence by the prosecutor's own admission.
	So we're going to give you the ins and outs there today because guess what?
	You are next.
	If they can do this 22 years, everything else.
	And by the way, at the same time as not prosecuting, I don't know why I cut it weird like that.
	Okay.
	Does he really think that the prosecutor just, like, admitted something that it took Steven to realize, and the jury here couldn't figure it out?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Okay.
	And nothing else mattered?
	Like, the prosecutor's own admission, but he ignored all the other admission that actually makes sense here?
	Uh-huh.
	Okay.
	We're gonna talk a lot about that.
	I just want to make sure that I understand that.
	I think it's just important, you guys, that like whatever we think we know is not really what we know.
	Yeah, and this might sound kind of crazy, but did you guys know that you guys can actually go to jail for non-violent crimes too?
	What?
	No.
	Like, if you don't directly do a violence, you can still go to prison.
	It doesn't make any sense what you're saying.
	Like, if you're not there, and like, something happens in your name, and like, you tell a bunch of people to do something, and they're gonna do that thing.
	No, no, no, no.
	See, no, no, no.
	It's like, okay, so here's a little secret.
	Like, if you needed to eliminate someone from your life, and you paid someone to do that, you didn't do it, so you're off the hook.
	Yeah.
	It's a little secret.
	Yeah, dude, the law doesn't want you to know, but that's a secret.
	If you pay someone to do your crimes, You aren't held liable for them.
	Well, who do you guys think that Stephen's gonna complain about law enforcement not prosecuting?
	What would be your best guess here?
	Probably Joe Biden.
	No.
	Hunter Biden.
	No.
	And Tifa.
	Michelle Obama.
	Closer.
	Violent felons from the riots of Black Lives Matter.
	Not living in a free country if you have laws.
	Only if the laws are applied equally.
	Of course.
	And we'll talk about all of that later.
	You know, how equal the laws are applied.
	Totally.
	And in which direction, of course.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Because there's definitely no, like, completely messed up sentencing for certain types of people, right?
	Of course, you know, violence towards protesters.
	Yeah, you know, or maybe like drug crimes being significantly charged more commonly towards black individuals.
	I don't know if we're gonna get into that, but that does make sense.
	Who do you think's in third chair this week?
	Third chair, probably... What's your best guess?
	If I had to guess, probably Mike Lindell.
	I wish.
	Is that a deposition with Mike Lindell this week?
	Yeah, we called that attorney an asshole because he called the pillows lumpy.
	Lumpy.
	Yeah, that was fucking awesome.
	You are an asshole!
	So good.
	You guys know this fella.
	You'll love him.
	Steve came from his loins.
	All right, and then when you hear this, that means in third chair, you know him, you love him.
	I came from his loins.
	It's Pops Crowder.
	How are you, sir?
	All the thumbs down buttons were just clicked.
	Ooh, hate Pops.
	Making his way to the ring now.
	I guess so.
	Weighing in at 380 pounds.
	No, he's pretty spelt.
	He's like not a big boy.
	I mean, you hear his coffee order in this.
	It's got no sugar, no added anything.
	400 milligrams of Dunkin.
	That's what he says, yeah.
	Remember how we talked about how Steven installed that red light to keep former third chair Dave Landau from doing jokes and talking?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You guys think that's still around?
	I mean, probably.
	Well, we bought it off of him, and it's been installed over here.
	Shut the fuck up, Jared!
	Jared installed it for himself.
	Oh, here we go.
	You know, I hate that I can't chime in on Tim losing it pre-announcement.
	No, I can't chime in until you actually... You already did!
	Yeah, I know, but I was admonished for it.
	You saw the sign and you bucked it anyway.
	You took a ticket on that ride.
	You saw the sign.
	Shut the fuck up, pops.
	Dumbass dad.
	Keep your mouth shut.
	Dumbass dad.
	This is crazy.
	So there's a segment that we've yet to talk about on the show, usually just Joe Biden stammering because, you know, he has a stammer.
	Makes sense.
	He's got a speech impediment.
	Sure, sure.
	This segment's called This Week in Biden and unfortunately, we're gonna... I think we did a This Week in Biden.
	Did we?
	Are you sure?
	Yeah, I think on the episode one, we had one and he says something like, I don't know, Jack, and he's like, did you hear him say I don't know, Jack?
	That's so stupid.
	Well, I guess this is another... I don't know why they had to put it on there, but we watched one with it.
	Okay, so This Week in Biden?
	Yes.
	Is that what it's called?
	You may not know this.
	He wasn't supposed to walk out on this war hero.
	No.
	That's why it's so odd.
	And, of course, here he is lying about the economy, weather events.
	It's This Week in Biden.
	If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black.
	I also convene my entire cabinet as part of a whole-of-government response.
	And that response is to increase the number and intensity of the extreme weather events and be wary we're going to use all the resources available to the government to do it.
	I'm really sorry for what is about to happen here.
	And the guy walks out.
	He's looking so regal.
	Regal eagle.
	Yeah?
	Why is it clapping so insane?
	They're all in the shade here.
	Ladies and gentlemen, please join me for the benediction.
	Let's speed it up some more.
	Biden like walks out.
	That's the whole thing.
	Biden says a thing and then he walks away.
	Uh-huh.
	Still going.
	If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black.
	Damn, we got him again, boys.
	Solid start.
	I'm so confused.
	Jared, do you want to, yeah, walk us through that?
	Biden says the thing.
	Uh-huh.
	Is this at the G20?
	Is that right?
	The summit?
	I think that's right, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And they're just honoring this military vet, maybe a war hero.
	And Biden says a thing and then he's kind of just like shepherded out of the stage, off the dais, I guess.
	He just kind of like gets moved away from it.
	And that's the whole thing.
	They've showed you all that and made all that noise.
	band playing Alvin and the Chipmunks. That was a really good impression. That was the whole segment.
	And so I thought for sure they were gonna make fun of him for looking like a like swollen jack-o'-lantern
	or something. Sure yeah. That maybe he had some like I don't know Botox done.
	His face just looked really big to me.
	I thought maybe they were just gonna make fun of him for that.
	But it was actually just that he said a nice thing and then he left.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He, I mean, the climate comments were like totally fine.
	I don't, well, and you know, they're definitely not focused on any of that.
	These guys don't believe in the weather.
	I just assumed that they were gonna make fun of like his cadence and saying that or his enthusiasm, but no, okay.
	Yeah, it's just really Biden, and this is me editorializing, who looked like a pumpkin, and that's where it ends.
	He looked a little like a pumpkin.
	A little pumpkin-y out there, said a thing and then he was shepherded away.
	Sure, okay, great.
	This Week in Biden.
	This Week in Biden.
	That's the whole segment, yeah.
	Yeah, fuck that old man, piece of shit.
	I can't even believe he's up there saying shit and then walking away.
	Alright, you guys ready for some- He stays!
	He stays put.
	He should've kissed the vet on the mouth.
	What he's supposed to do is he's supposed to stop in the middle and just stare for a little while until someone asks him to leave.
	Yeah, or he could do a funny, goofy dance like Trump does sometimes.
	Yeah, he did a little dance.
	We wanted him to do the Mitch McConnell thing.
	And that's to say nothing at all.
	Say nothing at all.
	You guys ready for some conservative Mockingbird takes, huh?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I love the Mockingbird.
	Let's zoom out here.
	You believe this man is leader of the free- You believe this is the most popular president of all- You believe this man received more votes than any other president in history?
	And you believe that this man is fit to serve- This man is fit to be in the Oval Office?
	What- Let me put this in context.
	What other job would you entrust to former Vice President Biden?
	Hey, do you run a company out there?
	So let's run through these real quick.
	You ran through a bunch of stuff.
	Most popular based on most votes?
	Is that what he's implying?
	Popularity is?
	Yeah.
	I mean, yes.
	Maybe there were so many votes for Biden because it was a very consequential election and with the state of electoral politics we can really only choose between two people?
	Yeah, I think a shit ton of people voted and a lot of people didn't want to vote for Trump so they voted against him.
	It was a response to Yeah, we all had kind of a bad time.
	We didn't really have a good time.
	All I can remember is that most of us were not into it.
	While it was happening.
	Well, it's basically kind of like if someone was like, hey man, I'm going to have to stab you.
	Do you want me to stab you in the hand or in the neck?
	Probably the hand.
	The hand.
	I guess.
	And you wouldn't be like, so you're telling me this many people love being stabbed in the hand?
	No.
	Hard in the neck.
	Yeah, no, this many people don't like being stabbed in the neck.
	So most votes in history.
	Yep.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Because.
	There was the most votes.
	Period.
	Period in history.
	Yes.
	The other thing I can't stand about this thing too, this, the alleged this is the most popular man in the world that's ever existed and we want to kiss his whole body.
	I do.
	Up and down.
	I want to kiss his body up and down.
	Down only.
	From his snoot to his boot.
	That man could snoot me, honestly.
	The thing is, is that like not even that many people vote, right?
	So it's like 66% of like... That's right.
	They're like 65% or whatever of the eligible nation, right?
	And then of that 65% or what have you is divided like 60-40 relatively.
	Yeah.
	It's like, not even like that popular.
	You can't get more people to vote for him, but also that like, he can't even 40% of 65%.
	It's not that popular.
	It's just like, I don't understand how it's like, this is, I know it's complicated and we gave a lot of numbers and maybe he's going to speak to this later on.
	Us libs, we just kind of hit a wall when we're explaining things.
	Sure.
	There's nothing much deeper than 50% of America.
	It's like, well, Barely 50% votes, man.
	Most fit for office.
	I'm kind of less confident about that part.
	Yeah, Trump is not fit for office, but if we're talking about who could beat up who, I think Trump could push Biden over.
	I'm just saying in general, I don't know how confident I am.
	I think he just means, like, is that guy actually, like, Mentally fit to serve that's how I I'm less confident about that.
	Yeah, but I'm I I think that so here's what I would say about that I think he's fine.
	He's fine.
	I voted for him because he's fine.
	Yeah.
	And because I think Trump is like evil.
	He's like kind of evil.
	And I would rather have somebody who's fine than somebody who's evil.
	Sure.
	100%.
	Trump's doing like psychic damage on all of us.
	And I think that while the president has a lot of power.
	It's not that much power.
	It's not that much, for one.
	I mean, there's some really big moves, and I think he's fit to make those really big moves.
	Sure.
	I don't think anyone looks up and says, man, I wish that I could, you know, be as cool as Biden.
	I don't think anyone says that, right?
	Remember when he was jogging with Obama, though, and they had sunglasses?
	They were fucking genies back then, but that's fine.
	Different era.
	I don't care much about Biden, honestly.
	Sure.
	Me either.
	I just don't.
	I just really... I wish that someone cooler was running.
	Yeah.
	I really do.
	Not that I want Beto to run, but do you remember when Beto... Beto inspired me.
	Do you remember when they tried to bash on him for having that punk rock band?
	Yeah.
	And I'm like... But it was with like the coolest like rock and roll band.
	Was it Cedric from At The Drive-In?
	Is that right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I just love that it was like, hey his music got uncovered.
	Everyone's like, fuck yeah, bootlegs!
	Like they were That's kind of the time when they saw that college video that AOC did where she was dancing on the rooftop.
	Dancing on a roof, all excited, having fun.
	She just looks cool.
	Yeah, she looked cool as hell!
	She looks cool and happy, and they're all like, she's having fun!
	Speaking of happy, guys, I'm really sorry to... Pharrell Williams is on the show.
	Pharrell?
	No, no, this is about to get really dry and boring.
	But they really zoomed in on all this stuff, specifically Biden's job creation figures, so let's dive in.
	He's not even convincing.
	His heart isn't even in the lies.
	So let's get into this here on Labor Day.
	He went out, again he's preparing his campaign, touting his job creation.
	Now it's a lie, but watch him.
	Like I said, in my first two years, I've created nearly 13.5 million jobs.
	More jobs in two years than any president has created in a four-year term.
	Okay, all right.
	Okay, let's go through the claims.
	This is his claim, right, that he just made that, okay, he created 13.5 million jobs more than any other president.
	Okay, here's the truth, all right?
	Tell me, Steven.
	And we make all the references publicly available.
	The vast majority of those jobs are returning jobs that were lost due to COVID, right?
	We saw record job growth, but most importantly, and we'll circle back to this, we saw record wage growth.
	For all Americans, black, white, middle class, upper middle class, Let's be honest about what this is here.
	It was internationally orchestrated COVID, not the virus.
	I'm not saying the virus doesn't exist, but it was designed to shut down the economy and force people to vote from home.
	A quick little COVID conspiracy.
	So he's not saying the virus wasn't real, but it was designed?
	Sure.
	Who was the conductor?
	The globalists, of course.
	was an internationally orchestrated event designed to shut down the economy
	who was the people to vote from home the globalists of course yeah that was kind
	of interesting and a little distracting from what the other stuff he said but
	yeah that most of the jobs were recovery from Kovac do you guys think that if if
	if Trump was in office right now and there was this big recovery he'd be
	saying the exact same thing Exactly.
	Yes.
	This is just standard politics.
	That's one thing that I'm sort of confused on right here is that he's saying that if the entire world orchestrated this to happen, COVID, and we went with it, it worked out for us.
	To get Joe Biden in office, then that is him conceding that Biden did get in fact more votes than Trump.
	That's interesting.
	Or that the fraud had to do with the scheme in general.
	He wanted more mail-in votes.
	So here's what I'm really curious about.
	I think it's acknowledging it at least.
	That was my take on it.
	Do you think if someone was going to make up this big lie about mail-in votes, do you think that they would need more people to actually mail-in vote?
	To fake more mail-in votes?
	The rational conspiracy theorist would say that they do need a combination of the two elements.
	You know, it wouldn't be right to be like, we're gonna lie and cheat about all mail-in ballots.
	I'm sure that it's a combination of the two.
	Yeah, but I mean, so I can agree with that, but I would think that people would say,
	oh, of course there were record numbers, they were all fake, right?
	But when you say all fake, that doesn't seem like, that's what's being pushed, you know that.
	I guess, yeah.
	They're implying that the mail-in ballots make it so much easier to fake.
	Maybe that's just the easiest thing to say, yeah.
	Because if you were truly looking at this as if I believed that that happened,
	which I want to make clear that I don't, I think it would be reasonable to say,
	like we used an algorithm to calculate how many votes would be needed to do this,
	and we hid it under the whatever.
	Veil of mail-in voting, you know?
	Sure.
	However, none of that matters.
	That's all distraction.
	The COVID recovery numbers, the apparently the economy, my number is a little bit lower, added 10.7 million jobs under Biden, putting the total to 1.2 million higher than before the pandemic.
	So there was job creation.
	Do you guys use the direct job creation numbers out of a candidate's mouth to determine whether or not you vote for them?
	No, but I think that could influence your feelings about a candidate, right?
	I don't.
	I mean, if he lost jobs, would that be something you'd be paying attention to?
	I don't think that he has that big of a power.
	With the economy?
	Yeah.
	I think that the economy is, it's so big and nebulous that I don't think any one man is... Kind of global, honestly.
	Yeah, well, it is.
	It definitely is.
	So I would never be like, oh, Biden made jobs.
	No, I think that a lot of jobs were made while Biden was president, maybe, but I don't feel like Biden is responsible for those.
	I have this vague memory of somebody a few years back, like, making the same claim.
	You know, how many, how many jobs he brought back in?
	I'm sorry, how many jobs they brought back in?
	I don't want to give away the entire farm here.
	Sure.
	But, uh, it was just jobs that had been basically like lost under the previous president.
	Oh, bummer.
	I don't think that gives that away either.
	Yeah.
	But then the next guy retained some of those that had been lost.
	It just sort of seems like it's kind of how it works.
	Everyone has their hands in the other guy's pocket when it comes to like things that are liquid like jobs.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	And I also just want to be clear.
	I don't think Trump was responsible for the economy collapsing.
	No, that's partially and actually not.
	I don't know.
	We'll talk.
	We'll talk about that.
	I think that he had his own shitty policies, but COVID undeniably had this crazy effect.
	We're going to talk about it.
	What about the quality of the jobs that Biden added, though?
	Well, hold on a second.
	Actually, employers, by the way, have been adding record jobs since then.
	187,000 jobs in August.
	The economy is doing great.
	Okay, here's the truth about that split.
	The job report was really bad.
	I'll get to the 4 million jobs created in a second.
	Unemployment went from 3.5% to 3.8%.
	Here's what they're leaving out.
	1.2 million native-born Americans lost jobs.
	They have lost jobs.
	688,000 foreign-born workers have gained jobs.
	Really?
	Yes.
	When you're talking about visas, you're talking about the lottery visas.
	He's just doing like classic, they took our jerbs.
	Yeah, he is exactly doing that.
	100% he is.
	And they aren't done talking about that.
	But let's talk about this 3.5 to 3.8 thing.
	Unemployment has been trending down for the most part since 2009, which of course is right after the housing crisis, that mini-recesh that we had.
	Under Trump, though, in 2016 it was 5% unemployment.
	2017 was a little bit better, nearing 4%.
	You got to give him that.
	And then this disgusting 3.8 number in 2018.
	Ugh!
	Right?
	Yucky!
	Why is it so low?
	I don't know.
	And then this low that Stephen was talking about, 3.5 in 2019 before... hmm.
	Something happened and, uh, COVID took it to, it was 15% actually, which is not, not that bad.
	Surprising.
	But then, you know, the, the Biden administration quickly brought it down to like nearly historic lows where it was before COVID very quickly.
	And we're currently kind of on the brink of a recession Now.
	So I don't see that 3.8 is that bad.
	And I'll be honest, I don't understand the number.
	Well, yes, you can go, Jared.
	Stop fucking interrupting.
	Lights on, boys.
	Basically, the July to August numbers is what they're looking at here.
	And the unemployment for 2022 for July to August was 3.7%.
	So we're only like a 1, like 0.1% away from where we were last year.
	Sure.
	There being fewer people employed, I suppose.
	Really, it just seems that like for the summer months, it is constantly and consistently taking a dip.
	Like people leave their jobs during the summer to, and I guess we can, you know, articulate that however we want.
	It's vacanza.
	People love having fun.
	Yeah, they don't seem to work.
	There's also been quite a few like, like reading into this, you know, where, where are the labor shortages are like, where are people losing their jobs?
	And that seems to be consistent with like, everything that's been I don't know easily like found out out there.
	So like what we saw was that a warehouse and trucking jobs had gone down right like this is like where the major discrepancy is where people have lost jobs in this economy and it seems to be these trucking companies that are called less than a truckload business which Uh, they sprung up during the supply chain during COVID.
	So now as we like move ourselves away from the pandemic, you know, further away from that, that protocol, we're losing some of these soldiers on our front lines.
	These things that we're banding together for our American interests, you know, they, they continue to heal and we're going to see even more of these pandemic entrepreneurs, I suppose, disappear, uh, in the coming months.
	I mean, it's just, what about my Peloton though?
	Listen, I'm worried about my quarantine-y alcohol subscription box.
	And truthfully, the people that are making the Tiger King filters that I can use on our Zoom conversations right here... I hope that they still let us pay for that subscription, right?
	I'm a little worried about them.
	And then as Dennis you pointed out let's not forget that great replacement theory light stuff the brown foreign Dems are taking our jobs Yeah, well, I mean so I just I mean when I think about the unemployment numbers for one I don't think about that number when it comes to making decisions like for who I'm voting for I just I don't like I think about me and do I have a job?
	What's my situation like and how does that look?
	okay, and also I think that the unemployment number is really challenging to really like paint a picture around because There's so much that goes into that, right?
	There's people leaving the labor force from, like, retiring.
	There's people who work multiple jobs.
	We're gonna talk a lot about that.
	There's just, there's so much to it, and I feel like when you use it as, like, a weird stat to, like, just feel something about somebody, it's like arguing about who has the better batting average.
	I guess sports players make sense because it's sports.
	Yeah, it does, it makes sense.
	But it's, I don't know, it's like, um, Let's talk about the most important stats.
	Okay, yeah, I don't know what I'm talking about.
	Let's go.
	I don't think there's a more clear statistic.
	It's not about immigration.
	It's not about, duh, they're brown people.
	No, that's not what it is.
	For some people.
	For former Vice President Biden and probably, you know, his family.
	I bet you you probably hear that quote, it is brown people!
	Yeah, Biden's the racist one.
	1.2 million American jobs lost.
	688,000 imported jobs.
	This is how you know they're not looking.
	Now, here's something.
	You certainly can import those votes.
	Mmm.
	Hey, 688,000.
	Hold on a second.
	What was the margin of error in those key states?
	Arizona was 10,000?
	Yeah.
	A lot of these states were within 30,000.
	688,000 foreign-born workers.
	Now, I don't know how many of them are eligible to vote.
	I don't know how many of them got citizenship, how many of them got green cards versus work visas.
	But the point is, they're trying to establish a voting base for all time.
	Americans lose jobs and we import jobs.
	That's a problem.
	That's a policy problem that everyone should be on board with solving.
	I guess he's saying that if you're foreign-born, you can never be American enough to have your voice matter.
	That's pretty interesting.
	I mean, that is what he's saying, but he's also... Isn't he from Canada?
	Sorry, let me clear my throat.
	Interesting.
	This is crazy to me.
	He's literally implying that Biden is turning the knobs and moving the levers to make it so that these American companies will hire foreign workers to replace American workers specifically so that they can come here and vote.
	Yes, yeah, that is what he's saying.
	But now they have to become a citizen to vote.
	And the thing that it's like a cabal.
	Like, it's all these companies working in lockstep with the Democratic Party.
	And I'm just, I don't know this, but I would feel like many large business owners that have a substantial enough pull on the economy to actually make these supposedly outlandish things happen Generally probably lean more Republican if I was being honest.
	For the most part, yes.
	Because they're probably going to be so fiscally conservative that they would not be voting for Democrats.
	I don't think anyone would do that, even if they were that shitty, to do that.
	It's not malicious.
	I don't think that it's intentional.
	I think it is.
	Okay.
	On second thought, I think it is.
	I think that Biden's really racist.
	Well, he actually did kind of do some racist stuff in his early days.
	Of course he did.
	He's an old man.
	Of course he did.
	And I'll be honest.
	I'll say this.
	I do not condone any racist shit Biden's done.
	I don't think Biden's a god.
	I don't worship him.
	No, I mean that the whole super predator thing was it was bullshit, but I mean Hillary Clinton did that too I'm sure that dot what about Donald Trump's his whole like don't want about this.
	Okay, you're right.
	Okay.
	Don't be like them I got almost caught up but Central Park, what is it Central Park 85?
	Yeah.
	No, of course.
	I was fucked That was bad.
	All I'm saying is it's weird because they make these arguments about Biden.
	Yeah.
	As if you and I are like jerking off to Biden pictures in the bathroom.
	They kind of assume that we are.
	Right?
	Wait, Jared, what's that?
	So, okay.
	Okay, hear me out.
	I was watching The Headless Horseman.
	Okay.
	I'm watching this legend of Sleepy Hollow.
	I'm thinking about Mr. Toad.
	I'm looking at Ichabod Crane.
	I think we should probably listen to a clip.
	Okay. This is the most important claim that you need to be ready to debunk because you'll probably
	hear this at Thanksgiving when you go into election season.
	So here's the claim that they're making and it is verifiably false, misleading, you
	could say untrue, and again we'll make the references always publicly available. He has
	tried to say that he's created millions of new jobs outside of, now he's trying to
	say get rid of the rebound from the pandemic, which by the way your party pushed.
	Oh, and also you said you would never take the vaccine because of Operation Warp Speed when it was Donald Trump's vaccine until you took credit.
	But I digress.
	Quick pause before he digresses.
	And thank you for pausing there.
	I just want to add that this is just a gothic kind of dream that I have.
	OK, and it's not it's not really it's not really anything about Joe Biden necessarily more than it is more about his pumpkin like face.
	That's all.
	That's all.
	Okay, sorry.
	Thank you.
	No, you're fine.
	We don't really have enough time to get deep into that quick remark of Stephen saying that Biden said he wouldn't take the vaccine because it was Trump's vaccine.
	I don't remember that at all.
	I also don't care.
	I think I do remember it.
	There's some echo in my brain about it.
	I also remember Joe Biden saying something that he was only going to do one term.
	He did say that.
	That felt kind of like Mandela effect as well, like because I could have swore he wasn't going to do this again.
	Scrub it off of YouTube.
	Yeah, Biden and Harris were both publicly skeptical and concerned that politics would influence the development and deployment of the vaccine and that Trump couldn't be trusted with that.
	Because it's a great responsibility and he's a, you know... Irresponsible jerk.
	A big dumb asshole.
	And he has really good dance moves, though.
	I'm not gonna cross that line.
	He's the best dancer, for sure.
	I have to find something.
	I mean, that kind of makes sense that he would say that.
	I wish he wouldn't have said that.
	I mean, because, like, most of this misinformation surrounding it spread through selectively edited clips on TikTok.
	And most of them have been removed, which I don't know if that's good or bad considering they'll just say that it's censorship or whatever.
	Of course.
	It's just, it's bullshit.
	Biden and Harris probably shouldn't have said that because it gives them ammunition.
	I just don't, I'll be honest, I just don't know who the fuck Stephen's talking to when he says this kind of stuff.
	To his audience.
	Well, I know, but do they really think that we just like lust after Biden so hard?
	I think they do.
	Yeah, because we decided him over Trump and so like, what the fuck is wrong with us?
	I stabbed myself in the foot instead of the fucking neck.
	The hand.
	Jester with his hands wildly at them both.
	Yeah.
	Like, right?
	Like, you guys see this and it's like, yeah, we get exactly what the fuck you're saying here, but there's still in our heart of hearts It's Joe Biden, it's not Trump.
	If we want to have any kind of like, I don't know, sleep at night.
	I don't want to be worried about shit and Trump has only been a worrisome person.
	I remember the feeling the day after Joe Biden got elected, before January 6th, where I had like this small window of like...
	Yeah.
	I'm fine now.
	Yeah.
	You can stop looking at this for like four years at least.
	And that was all I wanted.
	That's what I enjoyed with Obama was that like I didn't have to worry because I wasn't being surveyed by drones.
	It was fine!
	Not us in Montana.
	No.
	Not, not there.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Uh, so hey, before we get too far away from this with what he was saying, uh, is he, this last clip that we listened to, I, I've got this thing here about, uh, the, the 600,000 immigrants number that he keeps touting here.
	And I was trying to look through and like, I'm a fucking idiot.
	Let me just throw this out there.
	I'm so fucking dumb, dude.
	And I'm like looking at these numbers and it's just so much numbers in my brain does this thing where it's like, I don't fucking care that much okay you know like it's just like it's it's uh uh who who's working in this country and like dope dude if you're doing a job that I don't have to do like that's fine with me right and that's kind of where it ends with me but going over these numbers here and I'm trying to understand where he's getting this you know 600,000 immigrants new immigrants have
	They're taking our gerbs.
	So I'm looking at this and, you know, I was like, am I missing something?
	And I look up 600,000 immigrants on my preferred search platform.
	All I can keep finding is that it just 600,000 is the number of like DACA recipients or and people also 600,000 people who all these conservative magazines claim that Joe Biden just led over the border like no questions asked.
	So it's just lazy.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I was kind of looking at that and I was thinking, okay, well, what else is the correlation here?
	Cato Institute reports in 2013 that on average 600,000 non-native workers come to the USA annually.
	So this is consistent with where we've been.
	It's always been like that.
	Yeah.
	And yeah, it's never been different.
	It's always been 600,000 non-native workers.
	Well, at least for the last decade.
	And I imagine some come and some go, too.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And so, and you make a great point there, because in 2020, when Trump closed the borders, that made it so, and this is coming from Bloomberg, if we're going to cite our sources like our boy does, reported in October 2022 that the U.S.
	was actually in a deficit of foreign born workers, saying that we had 1.7 fewer working age immigrants
	living in the United States.
	One and almost a whole other person, 1.7.
	Right, and so this- Wait, is that a million?
	1.7 million fewer working age immigrants living in the US.
	Yeah.
	And so this is like, that our economy depends on these people
	coming over here and working with us and for our American country.
	No, no, no, no.
	Jared, you're wrong, man.
	You're wrong.
	Okay.
	Listen, you are wrong.
	I might be.
	Like I said, I'm fucking kind of dumb.
	Shut the fuck up with that anti-American bullshit, okay?
	Next clip.
	Play the next clip.
	My Zionist patch fell off.
	My Zionist patch fell off.
	We're going to talk about the jobs specifically now.
	He's trying to say that four million new jobs outside of the pandemic rebound have been created.
	So that's not true, but you'll hear this a lot.
	Here's a clip of him starting that tour.
	We've recovered all the jobs lost during the pandemic.
	We've added millions more!
	Okay, so here's the truth, and context matters here.
	Huge portion, and depending on which numbers, most of them, part-time jobs or very low-paying jobs.
	Yeah.
	So since February of 2021, 3.6 million part-time jobs have been created, okay?
	37% of Americans have more than one full-time job right now.
	56% are considering a second job.
	So I can't really speak to the part-time job thing.
	I think that we are kind of in a position where employers push non-full-time jobs, and that's unfortunate.
	But the thing that did stand out to me, 37% of Americans have two full-time jobs.
	Does that sound reasonable to you?
	No, so is Steven suggesting that we raise wages?
	That would also have to be an actual fact that it would be 37% and also 56% considering second full-time jobs.
	Is that accurate?
	Is that right?
	It's not.
	The only place I was able to find this number... Do you remember Monster.com?
	Fuck yeah, I do.
	I love Monster.com.
	I'm brazzin' Monster.
	I'm looking for jobs.
	Looking for jobs.
	Apparently it was a poll that was taken via Monster.com.
	Nice, cool.
	So, 37% of monster.com job seekers.
	Well, that's the interesting thing.
	It was a survey conducted among workers in January of 2023.
	1,000.
	1,000.
	1,000 people.
	And not even indeed.
	370 people in the United States work multiple jobs.
	There was a survey conducted among workers in January of 2023, a thousand.
	One thousand.
	A thousand people.
	And not even in deed.
	Three hundred and seventy people in the United States work multiple jobs.
	And that, okay, but 1.2 million guys aren't working.
	Oh, fuck dude!
	Isn't that how we started this whole thing off?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I wish that people realized that when you cite, regardless, we can all agree that many people work multiple jobs because they need to to make ends meet.
	And that was actually the 80% of the people said that they need more money.
	That was part of this survey as well.
	So who knows how real that is.
	At the end of the day, it used to be that like one person could like work and like support a family and buy a house.
	And that's unfortunate.
	Yeah.
	Make America great again, right?
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	It's like he's doing like a...
	So close, he's looking at it.
	Yeah, he's doing like one of those like, you know, connect the dots, like thing, art.
	You wanna call it art?
	It's art, for sure.
	But it's like he erased all the numbers.
	Yeah.
	So he's just drawing from one dot to another and he's like, it's a confusing web.
	Which he's from New York now.
	It's a confusing web, boys.
	That's a great Canadian accent.
	But he's so close.
	He's so close.
	I know.
	I did look for like the real numbers.
	Did you just check his source?
	No, I went to the U.S.
	Bureau of Labor Statistics.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	That's where he's pulling this shit from.
	No, it looks like we're kind of nearing, not an all-time low, but kind of a low, at 5%.
	5% of what?
	Of Americans are working two full-time jobs.
	They're probably working a hundred part-time jobs.
	Maybe, but it's not 37%.
	Well, I think it's substantial.
	I think it's not five.
	Five?
	You think it's higher than that?
	I think it's higher than five, for sure.
	Full-time jobs.
	I don't know about full-time.
	That's the part that's kind of confusing.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Some people have side hustles.
	This is specifically... I think that many people work multiple jobs.
	Do you work multiple jobs?
	I do.
	Jared, do you?
	I mean, I... Jared works no jobs.
	So we average out... That's not true.
	That's not true.
	But we all know people who work multiple jobs.
	Of course.
	Right?
	And it's probably not full-time jobs because it's like, oh, I don't have that much time.
	But I don't look at Biden as responsible for this.
	Oh my God, back to this.
	Oh, I just don't.
	I just don't.
	Yeah, but you just keep saying that he doesn't have any responsibility.
	He has some responsibility for sure.
	I don't look at the president here.
	Sure.
	I look at Congress here as causing this, and I look at fucking huge corporations dumping
	tons of money into politics causing this.
	That's why I see it for the jobs numbers, for all of it, right?
	If you give like these selective few people a fuck ton of power through legislative funding,
	then of course they're gonna fucking pull the levers and make shit bad for us, right?
	Wait, what?
	Who is in office is not directing that.
	When you have tons of people who can dump tons of money into legislators who can then make it so that those people who have tons of money can then pull the strings.
	Of course you're going to get that.
	It's like legalized bribery.
	Yeah.
	It's also assuming, assuming that everyone has bad intentions though, which I don't know how I feel about that.
	I think that if you have a huge corporation that is funding anybody, what are their intentions?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I assume they're trying to have, make more money.
	Of course, of course.
	But I mean, even if we look at...
	Scared money don't make money, Gary.
	Regardless, have you donated to somebody before?
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Because I wanted them to be successful with whatever they're doing.
	Exactly, right?
	And if we look at huge sums of money, and then...
	and then they dump these huge sums of money into those, they want those people to be successful.
	Yeah.
	For whatever reason.
	And oftentimes that reason is nefarious.
	Nobody gets filthy fucking rich without caring about money more than anything else.
	That's true.
	Nobody does.
	I don't know how we got there, but we got...
	And I think that Biden is not responsible for a thing.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	Good God.
	That's what he's going to go out and say, and nobody's going to challenge him on this.
	None of the media are going to point out the fact that all of those things that we just said are true.
	True.
	Yeah, they aren't objective reports anymore.
	They're all opinions and spins.
	Well, you know they say there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.
	Now, here's the thing.
	Statistics matter.
	Facts matter.
	Tell me if you notice this trend.
	I do think that context often matters more than content when we talk about content with the show.
	I do think that context with numbers, particularly when you're dealing with the economy, they do matter.
	They context matter.
	Yeah, they context matter.
	Their spin is the spin.
	It's the correct spin.
	Yeah.
	I love that Pops Crowder always stumbles into saying like, people lie about stuff.
	It's coming out of like, hey bud, sometimes people lie, it's okay bud.
	He's saying that to his lying son, like as he's lying, and it's so funny.
	Projection!
	Yeah, what about that average wage though?
	They don't include the average wages, they don't include the hours worked, so it's, ah, wage gap, hold on, one step deeper shows you're bullshitting.
	Ah, guns number one killer of children, hold on, one step deeper shows you're bullshitting.
	Oh, more jobs created.
	Hold on.
	One Step Deeper shows that you are bullshitting.
	One Step Deeper, I like that.
	That is fun.
	That's pretty cool.
	One Step Deeper.
	So yeah, the EPI tracks wage increases by percentage and it looks like, you know, it's going up.
	Slowly.
	I don't know if it's matching with inflation.
	No, it's not.
	I can guarantee you that.
	But it is going up.
	What's our percentage here?
	This is the nominal wage tracker from the Economic Policy Institute, and they're a think tank, non-partisan.
	Okay.
	So 2008 through, I don't know, 2018, it was sitting between 3% and 1.5% yearly going up.
	This is yearly wage growth, okay.
	know 2018 it was sitting between 3% and 1.5% yearly going yearly yeah wage growth
	okay yes 2018 it starts going up to 3% not that much just a little bit
	Yeah.
	Jumps to 7.8 in April of 2020.
	Okay.
	Which is kind of interesting, right?
	Is that COVID wages?
	I mean, it could be a bunch of people paying out a lot of PPP things.
	There could be a lot.
	Yeah.
	And then it drops down to an all-time low of 1.5 in 2021.
	I don't know why that would be, but it immediately shoots... Has Biden gotten off?
	Of course.
	It immediately shoots up back between 5 to 6.8% in 2022, 7% and now it's just kind of leveling off back down to still higher than it ever was between 2009 and 2019.
	It's at 4.5%.
	Sure.
	Wait, what was he saying?
	One step deeper into the shit?
	It's closer to the edge, I think.
	Thank you.
	ever was between 2009 and 2019, it's at 4.5%.
	So.
	Sure.
	Wait, what was he saying?
	One step deeper into the shit?
	One.
	It's closer to the edge, I think.
	Thank you.
	I'm about to break.
	I just think he's full of shit, and if he's gonna play this game of one step,
	then I guess we should probably do that.
	I just, I really don't like that he talks about how context is so important, but doesn't provide true, honest context around it all.
	No, it's biased context.
	Well, especially like, at the end of the day, these are all like factors of the economy.
	The people that you elect is what pulls these.
	It's not just one person either.
	It's everybody.
	All these different electors in all these different states.
	Not electors, but all these different people elected in all these other states.
	And he's getting really close to progressive ideas.
	I don't think he realizes that.
	No.
	Right?
	Like, Republicans don't want wages to go up.
	They say they want them to go up naturally, right?
	But you don't do that that way.
	That's not how that works.
	If I had a town, and in that town there was a business, And I said, listen up, business, you can't stab all the people in green shirts.
	Is this a Tuttle Twins book?
	Yes, it is, right?
	There'd be people who'd be like, well, I don't wear green shirts, so I think that you should allow them to be stabbed.
	Yes, it is.
	That's the first page.
	You're reading from a Tuttle Twins book.
	You're reading the book.
	Am I?
	God damn.
	You want to hear what a dangerous sore loser sounds like?
	Yeah.
	This is always fun.
	There's no way he wins this election unless it's stolen, just to be clear.
	You know what, just call me Amy Klobuchar, call me Kamala Harris, call me Hillary Clinton, call me Jimmy Carter, who all said that the only way Donald Trump could win is if he stole it, and then when he did win it, they said that he stole it.
	The only way that this guy wins, because of the disconnect, because you, right now, at home, with the clicker, On your couch.
	I don't know.
	I don't know how you're watching this.
	You could be watching it on your phone.
	The point is you know what it is that you are living and you know.
	And even the average American who isn't politically involved knows that something doesn't smell right.
	That's how you turn people against you.
	Historically, it's pretty much always happened.
	Pretty much always happened.
	When the leadership, when the elites become so out of touch that they don't even seem to be representing the people who have elected them, that's when they lose power.
	You're seeing that right now with Trudeau?
	Yeah.
	And you are seeing the disconnect with this former vice president, and the media still trying to prop him up, still trying to drag him across that finish line, you know, weekend at Burnett.
	It's not going to work.
	The only way this guy wins is if it's stolen.
	I like that he keeps referring to him as former vice president.
	That is how he does.
	That's such a sting, dude.
	It doesn't get old.
	It's every time he does it, I just want to be like, shake my hand, Steven, because that is the fucking goddamn peak of comedy.
	I do like it, but then David Pakman always calls Trump disgraced former president Donald Trump.
	I mean, but that is that is accurate.
	It is accurate.
	You know, I mean, Joe Biden is a former vice president.
	No, no, I get that, but David Pakman's not calling him never was my president.
	That is true.
	The implication is that he is not president.
	I'm calling all of them deplorable.
	But what did he say in this clip exactly?
	That like basically all these people said that Trump could only won if he stole the election?
	So basically he lives in these weird absolutes of like Hillary Clinton, Amy Klobuchar, Bernie Sanders all said probably off-the-cuff like if Trump won it's because he cheated.
	And I disagree with those statements, I think that there was a lot of- Like the first time around?
	Yeah!
	Okay, okay.
	I thought it was 2020.
	No, no, no.
	It was just like, fuck this guy, he sucks.
	Yeah, they're like, this is fucking insane that we've devolved so far as a country.
	Totally.
	Especially that there is, like, the Russian collision, and I mean, like, all of these things that- I don't even know.
	I have so much fatigue on all of this.
	Did that even happen?
	And I don't even care if it did.
	I don't think it did.
	I think we fucked up.
	I think we ate our hats.
	Yeah, we ate pro on a lot of this shit.
	Trump lost the popular vote, though.
	He did, and I think that means a lot.
	I think that's also important to mention that.
	But no, I think that it's just stupid things.
	And here's the thing.
	When Trump won, none of those people went to the media and said, Trump stole this?
	Hillary Clinton said it one time.
	She said it was an illegitimate president, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, cool.
	I don't give a fuck about Hillary Clinton.
	I actually don't either, that's funny.
	No, I don't.
	But nobody indicted Trump, you know, or indicted anybody there.
	No one did anything that was indictable, I should say, right?
	No one called Georgia, told them to find more votes.
	No, to equate the two is insane.
	Yeah, it's apples and rocks.
	Of course, of course.
	And did people say that?
	I mean, they probably did.
	But, I mean, nobody opened these huge investigations into fucking Dominion voting machines.
	Nobody acted like votes were literally stolen.
	I will say that we probably, some of us were poor sports.
	Being a poor sport's fine, that's allowed.
	But being evangelical about disproven, debunked claims of election fraud is another thing.
	For how many years?
	Real quick, just a poll of us.
	A Monster.com sized poll.
	Let's ask us three.
	Did you guys ever think that Trump didn't win the first election?
	I actually don't think I didn't.
	No, the only thing that I thought was... I thought he won.
	The thing that I thought that I was concerned about was what I guess would be considered election interference by Russian bots.
	Sure, sure.
	That's always a factor in any election that we have.
	All the elections.
	Yeah.
	And that goes both ways.
	It's just people stirring up weird social media pots.
	And that happens and it's only gonna get worse from here.
	Totally. I generated something we need to pay attention to so yeah
	But I never for a second. Yeah, I never was like well Trump didn't actually stole votes. Yeah Trump stole votes
	Okay, Trump definitely stole them Jared. How many votes do you steal?
	Okay, well you did I got this ditch
	Down by my house like yeah too far from here It's kind of like a, what is it called?
	Like a culvert?
	I took like a truck worth, and I'm talking like one of those little, you know, USPS box trucks.
	And this thing was tricked out.
	I think I should stop you to legally protect you.
	I think it's time to move on to a clip, huh?
	I was just gonna say it was one of those kind with like the solar panels.
	It's like the new kind.
	It was really nice.
	Oh, it's a nice truck.
	And it fit a lot of votes in it.
	A lot of ballots.
	Sadly, in episode zero I said that Mug Club Undercover was gonna focus on schools.
	I've been proven right.
	It's time to continue Steven's vendetta towards public schools.
	Let's slip an RV for vendetta masks, boys.
	Nice.
	I want to say, too, that right before we get into the Shrug Club leak, that our boy here, he says everyone to calm down and please pay attention to him.
	Yeah, he does do that.
	He takes this very seriously.
	It's such a weird thing.
	It's such a weird thing.
	It's Mug Club undercover.
	So this comes in from uh and by the way you can always send your tips is it LWC uh you have the email lwctips at protonmail.com and don't flood that at all with false tips.
	Protect your anonymity with our life.
	So this parent let's call her Mrs. Z.
	Hold up.
	Just really quick.
	He said, we will protect your anonymity with their lives.
	They've said repeatedly that they would go to jail for their sources.
	Yeah, but they just said with their lives.
	If I were to go and like send them a tip and they're like, all right, so Dennis from Montana told us.
	No, our lives are over.
	Well, I mean, you could put their lives at risk.
	That means that you get to take their life from them.
	No, I got that.
	Guys, these are, I don't, they might listen to this.
	It could be actionable.
	I'm talking like a genie situation.
	Steve, Gerald, which are like, like you can ask him, like a monkey pod thing.
	Like, Yeah.
	It's satire, everyone.
	Washington.
	Not like Z, like in the gender thing.
	I know.
	It's just, come on, let's not let them steal letters from us.
	Too late.
	You're interrupting his flow, Joe.
	This person reached out to us with this email regarding the events from late 2022.
	It said, there is a giant Black Lives Matter flag and pride flag in the math teacher's room, which faces the hallway that all kids walk through before trying the formal complaint written route.
	I had a meeting with the superintendent as soon as I knew about the flag and also a school board member, but they pretty much said that they were powerless because of the teacher's unions.
	So then this person, Mrs. Z, issued a formal complaint, and this is what all of you out there as parents should do.
	Issued this formal complaint with the school, citing racial discrimination, which I like.
	That's a power move.
	Ugh.
	Flags, right?
	Disgusting.
	BLM flag again.
	Pride flag again.
	Oh my god.
	How come every time I turn around there's something is gay and something is black?
	Golly gee whiz, I am...
	I'm steaming right now.
	Yeah, but what's the basis of this complaint?
	She said that Stephanie Horn was engaging in anti-white people propaganda and has created a contentious adversarial space on school grounds.
	This promotes violence, division, and stating that Just Black Lives Matter is discrimination based on color and that that is against state and federal regulations.
	Now... Sure.
	Again, they're just repeating that whole, like, Black Lives Matter means no other lives matter thing, which has just been so repeatedly stated.
	I want to sit them down and say, Steven, Steven, like, look at me, look at my eyes.
	It means, nope, Steven!
	It means that as of right now, black lives are considered to be less valuable because of the effects of police violence.
	Society doesn't treat them the same.
	So right now we all need to, Stephen, focus, try to level things out.
	And that means protecting our black friends, family, everyone.
	You mean the freaking, the organization?
	BLM?
	Who got a dang...
	I don't know.
	and then they put people inside the house and maybe they did a party and maybe they spent some money awkwardly
	and you're gonna tell me that that's the same thing?
	That black people are somehow lesser than white people?
	You sound like the racist to me.
	I know. I'm actually not thrilled with the way that BLM, the organization, has handled the money that they've raised.
	Yeah, I don't think anyone is, but I think it's kind of like, it goes back to what he was just saying about
	the layer underneath the thing that we're seeing, right?
	Sure.
	The distraction.
	Yeah, to completely focus on BLM, the organization, and completely ignore the conversation that police police black neighborhoods more than their white counterparts.
	Uh, the data says so.
	And they, they, it also says that they, they offend and, uh, uh, what?
	Commit the same crimes at the same percentage, essentially.
	Right.
	And then get shorter sentences.
	White people do.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So it's just like, this, this is the problem.
	And, and so how do you diagnose the problem?
	You talk about it and you try to make it, make it that clear that this is what we're talking about, but no, like let's only focus on the organization because that's... It's easy.
	That's all that we can get to, though.
	It's like if you tell this shit to Steven or a Gerald, right, and like as you were just pointing out, they're glazed over.
	They've already stopped paying attention.
	Yeah.
	As soon as you said, well, the data says so, or whatever, you get into that.
	They don't give a shit, and it's disingenuous to say that we're... It's racist towards white people.
	Yeah.
	It is, period.
	They won.
	Sorry, I'm gonna give up.
	I'm stupid as hell.
	Bye!
	He left the call!
	So, just to make sure I understand, is Stephen for or against flags in schools?
	Because the last episode we covered was the Gadsden flag, right?
	So he's for them?
	Or he's okay with flags in school that represent your personal beliefs, right?
	As long as it's not racist.
	I think you would prefer that the classroom is a sterile environment.
	Oh, okay, so like everyone just fully wearing beekeeper suits?
	No lights?
	No lights.
	No music?
	Well, we could dive a little bit deeper and figure out why Steven is so ticked.
	Okay.
	I say this because these people, right, there's a huge difference.
	These people, they're supposed to serve you.
	Hey, public school, these are the true heroes.
	Well, let's show you just how heroic they are.
	Well, denied taking action.
	Declined to take action.
	Stating, I have determined that it was appropriate and not racially discriminatory for the district not to direct Mrs. Horn to remove the Black Lives Matter and Progress Pride flags from the windows of her classroom.
	As you know, due to your employment for the redacted government workers, including school teachers, do not lose all their First Amendment rights by the nature of their public employment.
	So, think of when people talk about the power differential, right, in relationships.
	uh... men in the workplace white people in the workplace is there any greater power differential
	teacher and student teachers first amendment protected
	your taxpayer dollars by the way students no
	parents no this is
	he's weaponizing power differential language which is pretty cool did he say
	that this this was the this is the mug club undercover yeah right
	Yeah, uh-huh.
	He got an email.
	This is about as undercover as the Show All comments section on any Facebook post from the local radio station.
	Yeah, I'm so glad you brought that up.
	That wasn't in my notes at all.
	He got an email from a mom.
	Yeah.
	Steven, I'm mad.
	And honestly, we are not to the end of this tale.
	They could have done something here to change things.
	Who knows?
	I know.
	We'll talk about it in a second.
	Yeah, I mean, as you'll come to learn, Gerald tends to kind of slip up and say the quiet part loud.
	And this is kind of where the beginning of that is.
	He does, yeah.
	So, and this is the thing, they're saying, no, no, we're allowed to have the progress flags, the LGBT, can you bring that up again, that overlay of the flags, so people can see the size of this?
	See how big those are?
	Yeah.
	These aren't two little flags hanging up in the corner.
	By the way, one of the policies of the district is that you're not supposed to bully anybody or, you know, there's some different wording that they use, but you can't do it based on race.
	Okay, so Black Lives Matter we had a problem with because it basically says that no other lives matter.
	Can we put a white lives matter flag in the classroom?
	Is that okay?
	Or would that be deemed as a racist kind of maybe push or kind of lean?
	How about step it back?
	All lives matter.
	That was white supremacy.
	How about blue lives matter?
	Black and white on the gray issues.
	Every single black person we interviewed said, well, yeah, all lives matter.
	You should be able to say that.
	I think we should be able to put that right next to it.
	Does that make sense?
	I guarantee the school district would probably step in at that point and say, well, hold on.
	You're telling black people that their lives don't matter when you say all lives matter.
	Well, why?
	That's not what you're saying with the black lives matter flag.
	Context, Gerald.
	Why was the All Lives Matter flag created?
	It was a response to ignorance about a movement called Black Lives Matter, and then that devolved into White Lives Matter, which is a blatantly racist flag waved by neo-Nazi groups.
	Why aren't they putting this in the school, though?
	Well, if it's a neo-Nazi school, I guess.
	I think also, as Stephen was saying earlier, Context is really important.
	Mm-hmm.
	Right?
	And so... Much like we talked about with the Gadsden flag.
	If we put these phrases in vacuums.
	Sure.
	In vacuums.
	Yeah.
	All lives do matter.
	Do black lives matter?
	Yes.
	All lives do matter.
	Yes.
	White lives matter?
	Yes.
	Sure.
	Right?
	The Black Lives Matter flag represents the idea that currently there's a huge segment of Americans who are not being treated fairly.
	Yes.
	That's it.
	Right?
	And in that context, as you were saying, the White Lives Matter flag, the All Lives Matter flag, it's presented to fight that idea.
	Yes.
	It's saying that that is wrong and not factual.
	Yeah.
	It has nothing to do with all lives.
	Okay, if a fucking rainbow flag that has no words on it, if you can understand what that means from the context, then you have to be able to understand that White Lives Matter...
	Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, so sorry, so sorry.
	Jesus, get that out of the schools.
	Speaking of the schools, the teachers, they're a criminal enterprise.
	Did we finish that?
	Wait, what?
	Did we finish the flag talk?
	Teachers are a criminal enterprise?
	They're a criminal enterprise!
	If you don't share these points of view, you don't get hired.
	You're not allowed in a club that is a teacher's union because they want to ensure that this kind of propaganda reaches your children day in and day out, eight hours a day.
	And as a parent, you have no say in the matter.
	Oh, and by the way, you want to use charter schools?
	You want school choice?
	No, no, no.
	We're actually going to push for legislation actively that removes that choice.
	It is a racket.
	It is a criminal enterprise, what they do with public schools right now.
	This is not about educating children.
	This is about creating an army of foot soldiers.
	It's the foot clan.
	And we're very effective.
	Yes, the Foot Clan.
	By the way, Clan, before you say it, no, we're not talking about hoods, we're talking about masks, Ninja Turtles.
	So, no, you don't know.
	Clan doesn't always mean, you know, burning crosses.
	That's a fucking great joke, dude.
	Funny, dude.
	You understand the point.
	So, they do do run-throughs of this whole show before the show goes live.
	So, like, he really does write a fucking Foot Clan joke and saying, before you say that, it's not it.
	It's not the KKK.
	It's just to be clear.
	They they've already said all this before yep C plus riff and they didn't F plus if that's written down man like that's so bad maybe just do it the first time because the second time that you're doing it is like definitely not it No.
	Well, I mean, you've heard Gerald laugh.
	It hit, dude.
	It hit so hard.
	Gerald loves a good joke, and he loves a good ha-ha.
	He's having a lot of fun.
	He's an easy laugh.
	Stephen's always right there, isn't he?
	And he's just looking over at him.
	So the next few clips are the superintendent of this school's response.
	So let me know how you're feeling.
	Again, none of this is just happenstance.
	The superintendent explicitly endorses Black Lives Matter.
	Oh, so this is a quote from the superintendent.
	The fact that, uh, by the way, that Kyle.
	Busted.
	It was just crazy.
	The fact that a display of a Black Lives Matter sign is not inherently racist or likely to
	cause violence within the school environment is demonstrated by the endorsement of the
	Black Lives Matter at School campaign by both OSPI and large Washington school districts.
	The fact that that flag is not likely to cause anything to happen at the school of violence
	or anything is because we say so.
	Yes, exactly.
	It's because the school district says so.
	That's what he points to.
	That is his empirical evidence.
	Well, that's like CNN saying, what?
	These protests are peaceful because, see, the lower chiron says it.
	Ignore the flames.
	It's peaceful.
	It's hempirical.
	Gerald got so hyped from that.
	I'm not surprised that there's a Black Lives Matter, like, program in school.
	Makes sense.
	Yeah, there's also a, um, help fund kids who can't afford lunch program in school.
	Sure.
	Yeah, yeah.
	There is a Big Brothers Big Sisters program that exists.
	There is a, this kid wants to learn to play guitar and he doesn't want to play guitar, so we're funding his musical education thing.
	Sure.
	Right?
	What are you, freaking blue hair-pilled?
	Dude, I am blue hair-pilled.
	I'm gonna go scream in the sky.
	Also, Superintendent, I made some spurious claims about Black Lives Matter reputations.
	The Black Lives Matter flag is not so patently offensive and linked to violence as you have suggested that it creates a significant threat of material and substantial disruption of the educational environment such that it must be removed.
	So again, this is the abuse of authority.
	Yeah, there is no violence associated with the Black Lives Matter movement as you maybe have suggested.
	Counterpoint, have you seen my tweets?
	I think he said no risk of violence as the lady suggested.
	Which I mean there have been moments of violence based around the protests of BLM.
	Most of them have been protesters being shot by people.
	I pulled up like five accounts of that.
	Sure.
	And I don't think anyone ever condones that.
	No.
	No one's like, oh, that's fine.
	That was fine.
	And the mostly peaceful, like obviously bad terminology.
	Yeah.
	You know, when you look at what's happening.
	But here's what's really important.
	When you look at Black Lives Matter as a concept, it's simply no different than like, hey, I broke my leg, call an ambulance.
	Yeah.
	And if someone responded and said, we all have legs, man.
	You'd be like, what the fuck, I need a fucking ambulance!
	I need an ambulance, yes.
	I need an ambulance.
	I didn't mean to say it funny, I was just trying to answer.
	It's like, you would immediately say that guy's an asshole, right?
	The guy who said all legs matter.
	Yes.
	That guy's an asshole.
	And then that guy could also be like, well, that movement of my leg hurts is associated with mean behavior.
	Sure.
	I mean, to be devil's advocate, they are believing that there is no broken leg.
	Like, they're not coming at it from a looking at a compound fracture.
	That is very fair.
	That's saying, no, just pull up your bootstraps.
	Yeah, they're saying it's a sprain, maybe.
	It could be a sprain.
	It could be tendonitis.
	I don't think they're acknowledging it at all.
	That is probably most likely.
	They're actually just saying the whole ass leg is fine.
	That's true.
	And that if you're out here trying to say that there's anything wrong with the leg, then you're freaking blue hair pilled and you need to go straight to jail because you're about to burn down the fucking school or something.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Back to the school.
	Now talk about word salad, which this guy tosses.
	he says about equity. The Ridgefield School District is a community of learners committed to equity.
	The principle of equity goes beyond formal equality where all persons are treated the same.
	Instead, equity fosters an inclusive and barrier-free environment in which everyone
	will fully benefit. Now talk about word salad which this guy tosses. It's...
	Oh, dude.
	Oh, shit!
	Oh, shit!
	You can tell from the words he used?
	Oh, shit!
	Oh, shit!
	Is it because of the pride flag, brother?
	What's up?
	Oh.
	Is he just a little bit more sexually adventurous than your vanilla little ass thing?
	Yeah, sorry.
	Sorry.
	So now we're talking equity versus... Equity, yeah, for sure.
	Byron, let me ask you real quick.
	Sure.
	know it in my chair and I don't Jared Jared at my school once they put in a
	wheelchair ramp okay were you upset that you didn't get a ramp dude I was a
	walking on the freaking ramp like I was like like I had wheels for feet
	You do a Fred Flintstone up there?
	Like a little bongo noise, you know?
	Nice, dude.
	I used it, it was fine.
	Why is it that when race is involved, people have such a hard time understanding equity?
	It's not... I don't need things that other people need.
	And if other people get things that I already have, why would I be fucking pissed?
	It's like when someone's like, hey, did you hear that the entry-level employees got a raise?
	And you're like, well, I didn't get a raise.
	You're making enough money.
	You're making enough money and they're fucking not.
	How hard is that to understand?
	It's really hard for these guys.
	I'm really sorry that you already have enough and that we're giving other people what they need to be where you're at.
	Yeah, I deserve more though.
	Oh, fuck.
	Sorry.
	Sorry about that.
	Sorry about that.
	I need to stop tossing my word salad.
	Shut the fuck up.
	Blue hair over here.
	Blue hair pills.
	Yeah, for real.
	He's freaking blue hair pills for real.
	I just wanted to say that like, like public school was a gift.
	You know what I mean?
	And like, it definitely looks different than when we were there graduating in like the mid, mid early 2000s.
	And I'm sorry, we're all 27 years old.
	I'm sorry, we're all 27 years old.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
	Yeah, exactly, I graduated in 2014.
	He had.
	I'm 20 actually.
	Dang, that's crazy.
	Well, and I'm the weird old one.
	I'm 27.
	You guys made me suck.
	But these guys are just talking about that they want the school to just be like this sterile environment.
	Like they don't want, they want the kids to go in and it's just like white walls and like nothing going on.
	But they also wanted to learn, well, actually, you know, Steven says some stuff and so does Gerald in a minute that kind of cancels that all out.
	But I think we have one more superintendent clip, and then we're gonna roll through, you know, some acts of progressive teachers that are just trying to help their students understand what's going on in the world.
	Okay, cool, cool, cool.
	If you have carved that white boy in the Ridgefield School District, you need to take your white boy out of public school at the Ridgefield School District.
	He just told you they're not going to be treated the same.
	As you say, that is the starkest power differential with a teacher and a student.
	There is no hope for a kid.
	And until a kid's an adult and paying the teacher to teach him in form of tuition, he really has no say.
	He's dismissing a parent like he's a Bangladeshi on tech support!
	Mostly one of that for that sick joke at the end.
	That's really good, thank you.
	Yeah, that's kind of the example of the jokes I want to start putting at the top of the show to get us going.
	Yeah, that feels good.
	I really hate, I hate all of this.
	Sure.
	But I also hate that this analogy I'm about to make, Stephen would not agree here.
	It's like if the kid gets the free lunch because they don't have any money at home, and then the rich kid gets mad because they didn't get free lunch.
	They didn't get two waffles that are like wet.
	Yeah, I wanted the wet waffle and the really oily pizza disc.
	But I know that odds are Stephen would be like, well, yeah, that's fair.
	Yeah.
	Well, on the bright side, some teachers seem to be doing some good stuff at this school.
	Let's run through it.
	Okay, let's run through it.
	In a negative tone, though.
	Yeah, of course.
	There's no greater power differential than a child's with that of their teacher.
	Actually, the greatest power differential comes from the Nissan Frontier.
	Slap that thing.
	Tell me all about it.
	Get a sponsor on you.
	Let's go.
	Nissan.
	I'm just saying, you know, you guys, do you guys think that that's true?
	Do you think that the employer-employee perhaps is maybe a little bit... Maybe a little bit more, huh?
	I don't remember what it's like to be in seventh grade.
	I do remember that my science teacher had a bunch of like Fetuses lining the walls.
	Human or pig?
	Pig and raccoon.
	Mexican alien.
	Chupacabra maybe.
	Yeah, some cool stuff.
	And how we learned one time is that he took the pig fetuses out and he was holding it by its little neck and shaking it at him.
	That's cool.
	That's a good feature.
	This girl was like, oh no, oh no, I can't.
	So she goes to the other side of the classroom and he just continues.
	And as he's wrapping up, he's like, I didn't want to have any questions.
	And then he looks over at the girl at the front of the classroom and he says, you were standing over there the whole time.
	I don't know that you really got what I was talking about.
	So let me let me have you take a better look.
	And he takes the pig fetus and he fucking lobs that sucker across the room.
	He hits this girl in the head with the pig fetus and she screams as it hits the floor and she didn't come back for the rest of the period.
	Mug club undercover at Proton Males.
	That was more of like a leak I guess.
	Yeah!
	Jesus Christ.
	I mean I don't love that.
	That's not great.
	I mean it's funny as hell and that teacher is cool.
	I got good grades in that.
	However, that's not hands-on learning.
	Traumatizing children just because you have a pig fetus around?
	Here's some good behavior.
	Okay, good behavior.
	March 26, 2020.
	All sources are available at laddoscutter.com.
	There's a French teacher wanted to form a book club discussing white fragility.
	And wanted reimbursement for buying the book.
	That first one was, like, in the center of COVID shutdowns.
	Yeah.
	And they said that they wanted a book that was, like, paid for by the school?
	Yeah, that's it.
	About white fragility.
	I think that that's the scary part.
	The irony.
	The irony, Stephen.
	Oh my god.
	June 3rd, 2020, 5th grade teachers said in an email that they, quote, ended up at a debate heading up to Ridgefield for a Black Lives Matter sign waving.
	Probably in an email to, like, the faculty, right?
	Sure.
	Uh-huh.
	June 9th, 2020, the 2nd grade teachers discussed showing parents in students' Black Lives Matter videos.
	Maybe they'll teach them how to make a phalanx.
	We've got a few for them.
	Wait, 2nd grade teachers?
	Yeah.
	Seven-year-olds need to have a Black Lives Matter video for parents and students?
	Why are they so angry, mommy?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Why are they burning things down?
	That's a stereotype of an angry black person.
	No, no, no, no, mommy.
	No, I'm not racist like you are.
	What I mean to say is those people are angry because they're beating in that man's head.
	He'll be okay.
	Is that our Walgreens daddy?
	And he did this a second time.
	This is number two.
	Yeah, this is their second take.
	Yeah, second run through.
	Fuck, man.
	Like, honestly, second grade is when kids start sometimes noticing that they're treated differently.
	Like, it happens.
	Well, and I think beyond that, for students that aren't of color, You are recognizing that there's a swelling of a feeling in our country that, you know, parents should talk to their kids about it.
	But a lot of students don't have that kind of relationship with their parents.
	And it sounds like it was like, hey, we're doing this.
	Parents and children can come to this.
	And it's probably not like required by the school.
	Most likely not.
	But I think I think that understanding is Yeah, and we had like Native folk come in and like demonstrate their culture for us, right?
	And my parents were never like, what the fuck is this, man?
	No.
	That was simply saying, hey, Native American lives matter.
	Yep.
	I mean, I just, I don't see why he's so upset.
	Probably because he's racist, I guess.
	June 24th, 2020, the school librarian asked other staff to send her for Pride Month, quote, a short video or text and pictures about something or someone important to the LGBTQ plus rights and visibility.
	Boy, asking LGBTQ plus to send you pictures, you're taking your life in your hands.
	Why is that?
	Give a homework assignment to the other staff?
	She basically sent her porn.
	Yes.
	He answered your question.
	Because they might send you porn.
	Because LGBTQ folks are perverts.
	Oh, I forgot.
	They only have porno on their phones.
	I forgot that there's that Venn diagram of porn and LGBT, and it's a circle.
	I forgot about that.
	I think it would have been a great thing for teachers to lead the way in talking about LGBTQ folks that
	are important to the movements in their classrooms.
	I think it's a great example to set.
	Yeah.
	I don't see anything wrong with it.
	I should have known.
	Lately I've been noticing that every gay person I know is like blurry, just in general, and I have to tap on them to reveal them.
	Yeah, you have to turn off safe viewing.
	I have to turn off safe viewing to see all of my gay friends.
	I don't know what the fuck's going on.
	It's a lot of extra work.
	It's a lot of dirty porno.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But if you put in the work, it's hot.
	On a slide, yeah, exactly.
	Alright, one more.
	Then September 1st, 2020, a science teacher told a parent who objected to a Black Lives Matter processor back then.
	Sorry, a poster back then.
	The teacher was a processor.
	That in science, women and people of color have long been underrepresented.
	I want students from marginalized populations to feel safe and supported in my classroom.
	Okay, how about this?
	If they have been underrepresented in science, teach them science!
	It's science.
	I think they're teaching them science.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That part's done.
	I think they're just telling them about how to be gay, how to be black.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's it.
	This is the new math.
	This is the new STEM.
	It's all how to be gay and how to be black.
	Yeah.
	Imagine if the science teacher had like a Women of Science button on her lab coat.
	Sure.
	Would Steven be mad about that?
	Probably.
	I mean... He would.
	I mean, I don't think that he would.
	Because I don't think... If it said women of science, I think he would.
	Women of science.
	I think he would.
	I mean... He hasn't... I think he would be less mad.
	Maybe.
	Because I think that he's more racist than anti-feminist.
	I think you'd be surprised.
	He's got a lot of content for a white male.
	I think you guys are convincing me to be upset but I think that I don't think you can see an equivalence there.
	An equivalence to?
	Like I don't think you can see a Black Lives Matter and a women make good scientists button.
	I'll talk to you in six months.
	Let's get a movement going.
	Ladies, if you are in science, wear a little Women of Science button.
	Email stcrowder at mugclubunderraps.org or whatever.
	Yeah, I think there's nothing wrong with supporting communities and ethnicities and sexes that are underrepresented in fields.
	There's really nothing wrong with that.
	What's the harm?
	I think that Steven would fight against women's suffrage if he... He would?
	Yeah, he would.
	Guarantee it.
	Almost positive.
	I, a little, let you in on a little secret.
	What's that?
	Listeners.
	What is it?
	I listened to the freaking Murderers Row.
	Fuck.
	And the things that they said about women on there.
	Yeah.
	They don't want him to vote.
	Is there a thing about Chelsea lately that they ripped into?
	Yeah, Brian Callen was strong and said that's my friend.
	I liked that, I heard that clip.
	The rest of them said she's a stupid bitch.
	Yeah, they did say that rips off jokes or something or doesn't pay people for jokes and just takes them.
	I don't know.
	It was bullshit.
	Murderous Row, of course, is the roundtable discussion.
	Nick DiPaolo, Brian Callen, Goat Boy, and Steven Crowder.
	Nice.
	Jim Brewer.
	There was a part when Goat Boy got, he like physically winced when DePaulo was saying some stuff at the end.
	That's fun.
	I don't want to get into it, it's disgusting.
	Maybe we'll do that in our Shrug Club at some point.
	That seems like a better place to tackle that.
	Let's get like episode 5 when they really got the juices flowing.
	Maybe Stephen won't have to moderate as hard.
	Please.
	Um, so, I mean, there is an update, folks, to this story that had nothing to do with Mug Club Undercover.
	Okay.
	Now here's an update.
	The superintendent at Ridgefield School District, Nathan McCann, stepped down from the position last month.
	And it just actually came out.
	I think that information was just made public within the last couple of days, maybe the last week, something like that.
	And basically, they said that they came to, like, a mutual parting of ways.
	His skills and abilities Through no fault of his own or the district's.
	Do you like this?
	Like nobody takes any responsibility for anything that's happening?
	He was the longest sitting superintendent.
	And also, not much is really happening here except you're being a fucking piece of shit.
	Yeah, he was there for eight years.
	And he probably was like, I can't, I can't fucking deal with this anymore.
	Well, I have a nicer quote.
	Okay.
	My heart is full of gratitude for the nearly decade long opportunity to work with so many dedicated and talented warm team members.
	I wish to thank all board members past and present.
	Hmm?
	He's gay and he's black now, isn't it?
	He's well on his way.
	Past and present for their contribution and commitment to our schools, Ridgefield is truly a special community and I'm excited to see what lies ahead for our schools.
	So it wasn't that at all.
	No.
	So he took no responsibility for being racist?
	Against white people?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The school district has had several bond issues.
	For those of you who don't know, that's like, please give us more money because we can do wonderful things for the LGBTQ community with it.
	They've had them fail twice recently.
	They aren't getting any more money from the people who vote on who gets more money.
	Good.
	I know.
	That's exactly what they should be doing.
	By the way, a percent of that money goes to the big guy.
	Well, yes.
	What percentage of the teachers' union goes to the Democrat Party?
	99.
	Thank you.
	They really jammed a lot into that little clip there.
	Hard to ignore Gerald's like blatant homophobic remark implying that it is bad to give LGBTQ people money and support.
	Also this bond issue, the last failed attempt, it was April 2022, it failed with 59.15% and it needed 60% for the supermajority.
	It was very close, but still a majority of people wanted this to pass.
	Yeah, and I mean, all that that's saying is stuff about society and their stances on whether or not these schools should be funded.
	Yeah.
	If people are fighting so hard to say we shouldn't fund schools, of course they're not going to get funded.
	Sure.
	And this, this problem is not going to be an immediate problem.
	This is a problem that in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, we have people who didn't get the education they needed and then it just gets worse and worse and worse.
	Yeah.
	Oh, but I'll, oh wait, so hold up, let me just make sure.
	Of course, yes.
	So, he like buys dildos or something?
	Yeah, that's what all the money goes to in this bond.
	Vote no on the dildo!
	Yeah.
	The dildo bond.
	So, that was shitty.
	Probably that one guy who ran that Pure Romance is doing this.
	He's running the bond, isn't he?
	It's that Pure Romance pervert from last episode.
	That's disgusting.
	That was shitty.
	That was Landau, wasn't it?
	No, Landau's not on the show, man!
	He's on, like, Barstool Sports.
	He's on Bullies.
	Oh, cool, cool, cool, cool.
	Stephen gets even shittier, boys.
	Hey, hold on a second.
	Public teachers, how do they pay?
	Your tax dollars.
	How do they support their union?
	Your tax dollars.
	And then you're told, no, no, no, we're going to keep up Black Lives Matter flags.
	We're going to have the homosexual flag.
	Sorry, homo, tranny flag, all that.
	You can hit the YouTube dumb button.
	I don't care.
	Chicks with dicks flag.
	We're going to have that up in front of your children.
	We're going to have them, we're going to have a nice little video essay, a time capsule, if you will, of grooming, and there's nothing you can say about it, and then we're going to demand more money.
	Fuck you, man.
	Fuck you.
	Yeah, that's pretty much all there is to it.
	Jesus Christ.
	Next clip, I don't want to hear anything else.
	Gerald then says the quiet part loud.
	And by the way, if you're a teacher there, or if you know somebody who is a teacher there, reach out to us.
	I would love to see, okay, you have the BLM and you have the Pride flag.
	How about we do the Christian flag?
	I know you don't see that flying at a whole lot of places, but we can find one.
	I'm sure we can work that up.
	And an All Lives Matter flag.
	How about we balance this thing out?
	Does that sound fair?
	Balance it out.
	Implying that Christian flags... Put the racist flag up there.
	Well, he's implying that the Christian flag is at odds with the LGBTQ flag.
	Or that the All Lives Matter flag is at odds with Black Lives Matter.
	Sure.
	So he is truly saying... Yeah, he's saying that that's anti-Black Lives Matter.
	That's what he's saying.
	He's not saying that it's canceling it out.
	He's saying it's literally at odds with that idea.
	And that was Landau?
	God damn it, man.
	It's Gerald.
	You're the Gerald of the show.
	Am I?
	Yes.
	I'm Papa.
	CEO, dude.
	You're not Papa.
	That's Jared, obviously.
	Yeah, 380 pounds.
	Why do you keep thinking Bob Scrotter's fat?
	I don't know, because he just has like a really big presence and maybe that's just like his personality.
	But you watched him on the video!
	Yeah, and every time I think about him, like I'm not looking at a picture of him right now.
	I haven't made in my wallpaper.
	No, you certainly have.
	I'm not gazing into his beautiful eyes, but in my mind's eye he's this big personality and he's like really not boring.
	He's very funny and he's just he's kind of like a got a Chris Farley kind of presence in my brain.
	Okay, how I just want to I just wonder how you would feel to be like one of Stephen's old teachers and like hearing Oh, we'll talk to one of Stephen's old teachers in down in this journey.
	I'm sure Well, I just I have his yearbook.
	Is it Pharrell?
	What?
	What does that mean?
	He was wearing that Mountie hat, but he's not actually Canadian.
	That's true, Pharrell isn't actually Canadian.
	Guys, it's time to talk Tario.
	Leader of the Proud Boys.
	Proud Boys.
	Screen printer of shirts.
	Did you know that?
	Oh, is that how he got started?
	He's a dropshipping G. That's like how he made his money.
	That's how they were so able to make t-shirts to sell and distribute out to the Proud Boys.
	Wow.
	It's pretty interesting.
	Sentenced to 22 years in the clink for seditious conspiracy?
	But, guys, what does your gut say?
	What is your gut instinct on the 22-year sentencing of Enrique Tarrio?
	Okay, that's what I thought.
	This is the longest one that we've seen from January 6th.
	Yep.
	The second longest one, I believe, was just earlier this week and it was like 16 years.
	There was an 18-year sentence for... I can't remember what the guy's... There was an 18-year sentence.
	Okay, so it was 18 and now it's 22.
	I can't remember.
	He was the leader of a different group.
	The Pig Man.
	Yeah, I think you're right, actually.
	I think it was the Pig Man.
	Was it Pan Man?
	Rufio Pan Man?
	No, it was like a half man half pig and he was like oink oink oink and going into the chambers.
	Are you talking about Jacob Chansley, the QAnon Shaman?
	That might be him.
	And I'm remembering that he's actually a buffalo, not a pig.
	That's true.
	And this is all different stuff.
	But yeah, Enrique Tarrio.
	I mean, Leader of the Proud Boys.
	Why would they arrest Enrique?
	Yeah, I mean, he wasn't even there.
	And I'm going to explain to you why they are trying to make an example of the Proud Boys, and I'm going to give you a brief history lesson on the Proud Boys, what they actually are.
	You may not like them.
	You may think it's a silly organization, but to act as though this is a terrorist organization or to act as though this person deserves 22 years in prison is to simply be ignorant of the facts, and it is terrifying that we have our intelligence agencies weaponized to this degree.
	Name 10 candy bars.
	I think it was cereal with the Proud Boys, right?
	You remember that?
	Yeah, that was how you would get it into like the first level of the order.
	They would all jump you and punch you until you named five cereals, I think.
	Fifth Avenue.
	Fifth Avenue again.
	Stop it, I'm gonna come. Alright.
	I don't know.
	There were certainly worse people who have done worse things though, right?
	Just to be clear, they were pushing for 30-something years.
	33 years, I believe, is the original sentence.
	And to put this in context, This is the largest Justice Department investigation in United States history.
	January 6th.
	That means bigger than the Boston bombing.
	Bigger than Waco.
	Bigger than Oklahoma City.
	Epstein.
	Hunter Biden.
	Way bigger than Epstein because we still don't have a single name.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	I don't even think they've done anything with Epstein.
	Way bigger than Epstein.
	Although Epstein is, you know, he's big on rape islands.
	That's where he's huge.
	And very big in Sheboygan.
	The fuck does that even mean at the end?
	Big in Sheboygan?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	It's a funny word.
	It's a funny word.
	Sheboygan's a great word.
	What the fuck does that mean?
	Am I right?
	Is Sheboygan in Wisconsin?
	Hell yeah, it's in Sheboygan.
	It's in Wisconsin.
	Sheboygan's in Sheboygan.
	I thought you called a lady a Sheboygan when she was being nasty.
	So...
	Is that not right?
	I don't think so.
	Like in Australia?
	That's called a Jim Jam.
	Is that right?
	You Jim Jam into the Sheboygan.
	Hey, she's just being a bit of a Sheboygan.
	Oh, right.
	So what's the reason that this would be the largest investigation?
	To me, it would be like because of the, you know, not only this over 600 people who illegally entered the Capitol building, but the president was involved in the fact that there was, you know, it was to overturn an election.
	Multiple militias, basically.
	Yeah, there were people doing, like, stack formations through crowds.
	Sure.
	Right?
	And that was the Proud Boys, right?
	Just to make sure I understand.
	But then you go back to the Boston bombing where we quickly discovered the two people who did it, like, within the first week.
	Thanks to Reddit.
	Well, actually, that wasn't... Reddit kind of pointed them in the direction of someone falsely and kind of ruined that person's life.
	Oh, did it?
	Was it?
	Yeah I don't know Waco we knew exactly who that was and we did a pretty lengthy investigation afterwards to like break down what we did wrong in that situation.
	I don't think we're entirely honest about that but all of the examples that he stated as like he's trying to what about and minimize January 6th.
	He's trying to say that all of these are like larger things that are more like I don't know violence more impactful were investigated for far less time.
	Yeah, January 6th was a fucking huge deal.
	It is.
	Regardless of how you feel about it.
	And it has nothing to do with, like, mass violence.
	It has to do with what it says about, like, the, you know, it was nearly a constitutional crisis.
	Yeah, I went home that day.
	Actually, wait, I'm reading this note here.
	Okay.
	It wasn't even that big of a deal.
	What?
	In 22 years?
	For what?
	For what, a bunch of dummies walking into the Capitol and then leaving?
	The only person shot was shot by Capitol Police and it was a woman?
	Yeah.
	What does the fact that it was a woman have anything to do with anything here?
	Yeah, well he doesn't believe that women are equal to men.
	Women get shot.
	And it wasn't even a full person who was shot?
	Yeah.
	It makes it sound like it wasn't that big of a deal.
	It wasn't that big of a deal, James.
	Because it was just a woman that got shot.
	Well, it might be.
	Let's get into the claims being made.
	The claim that they're trying to make here.
	So that you go, yeah, yeah, first off, you have to accept that January 6th was the deadliest day in American history.
	It was 9-11-2, 9-11 harder.
	9-11-2.
	I don't accept that, but maybe you do.
	I don't either.
	But even if you accept that, okay, you would have to accept their claim that this Enrique Tarrio was the mastermind behind 9-11, the sequel.
	No, you don't.
	It comes after a jury convicted of seditious conspiracy, the judge calling Tarrio, quote, the ultimate leader of the conspiracy.
	Prosecutors say it was members of the Proud Boys who first broke through the metal gates around the Capitol and that Tarrio was watching, posting messages on social media.
	Okay.
	So we got claim one and claim two.
	Claim one is that it's 9-11-2.
	It's one of the deadliest days in U.S.
	history.
	The claim that they are trying to make here.
	Why did that start again?
	I don't know.
	He called it like 9-11 Darker or something like that?
	Uh, I think he was making it die harder with a vengeance maybe joke?
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I thought 9-11-2 was just every day that we lived in COVID.
	Oh, yeah, no, that was 9-11-7.
	Well, I see what he's saying because the death toll was similar to 9-11.
	Yeah, that's right.
	But I don't think you need to accept that to understand the true impact of what that event meant.
	It was a big fucking deal.
	Just because one person died doesn't mean that the, I mean, it's more than lives.
	It's more than that.
	Yeah.
	It's the fact that we, it's still echoing through.
	Yeah.
	And it's going to echo through for a lot longer.
	And then that claim to Enrique Tarrio was the ultimate mastermind, the one leader of this.
	And I think that we are implying that he is, at this point, most responsible, beyond Donald Trump who is currently being investigated.
	For what the Proud Boys did.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Which they're saying that that was the catalyst for what happened, I keep wanting to call it 9-11 because we've talked about 9-11 so much, January 6th.
	Uh, it's not.
	No.
	It may have been like the thing that opened the door, kind of.
	Sure.
	But... It's a combination of so many things, even behind the scenes, on the ground.
	Ali Alexander, Stop the Steal, Roger Stone.
	We have all the people who met ahead of the events.
	We've got the intention behind the events.
	We probably have communication between the Proud Boys and Donald Trump's team.
	We most certainly know the Proud Boys talked to the Oath Keepers in the day before.
	planned something at least some sort of support of each other.
	I thought it was like a little seven minutes in heaven party.
	All of them did smooch and kiss in the dark.
	They were all like stand back and stand by the closet because I'm going in there after you brother.
	Either way, like, if he was solely the cause of this, and it was truly 9-11-2, we would start a war over it, track him down, and kill him, and then dump him into the ocean, right?
	Like, to equate the two is crazy.
	He got 22 years for seditious conspiracy, and he won't get the full 22 years.
	No.
	He'll be out in, I don't know, 15?
	Nah, he has to deserve more than that.
	Is that right?
	What is it?
	Is it 85?
	Either way.
	It's substantial enough.
	But either way, what Steven is implying here so far is that there was lots of evidence shown to a jury who understood what the crime was that he was committing, and that they were like, Biden said we should lock him up, right?
	Where even was Enrique Tarrio?
	I don't know.
	Somewhere else, probably.
	So, here's the truth, and we'll make all these references available.
	This comes also from the prosecution.
	Tarrio, 22 years in prison, was nowhere near the Capitol on January 6th.
	And before I get to it, I know you're going to say, oh, he was the one who orchestrated it.
	He did not orchestrate it.
	Nope.
	He did not call for violence.
	So, January 5th, Tarrio had been banned from D.C.
	after he was arrested for vandalizing a Black Lives Matter banner.
	Now, the Black Lives Matter activists were not banned or arrested for vandalizing public property.
	You vandalized their banner, now we're going to have to go to the rule book.
	According to NBC News, Tarrio, in encrypted... This is them admitting it!
	Tarrio, in encrypted messages revealed during the trial, Acknowledged receiving a message, meaning Tario acknowledged receiving a message from someone who wanted to, quote, storm the Capitol, but did not directly endorse the plan.
	This is also from NBC News.
	Prosecutors seemed to concede that much of what happened on January 6th happened spontaneously.
	So it happened spontaneously.
	He did receive a text, which, by the way, could have been from a Fed saying, hey, we're going to storm the Capitol.
	He never even responded with an endorsement of that plan.
	And he was nowhere near Washington, D.C.
	when January 6th, 9-11, the sequel happened, 22 years in prison.
	I'm not going to go through all the texts.
	Just that he has to keep stopping and saying, ah, okay, well he did respond to it, but he didn't like, he didn't endorse it.
	Say, go ahead and do it.
	Yeah.
	He's like, Hey, we're going to go, we're going to run up with the capital of Ontario.
	I was like, cool, man.
	That's kind of the vibe of everything I read was like, I don't know.
	I run a discord for another podcast that I have.
	If people were actively talking about something and I said nothing, and then I probably had secret direct communication with other members of that group.
	There's two possibilities here.
	One of them is that Enrique Tarrio did these things.
	Yeah.
	And what are these things?
	He committed seditious conspiracy.
	Sure.
	I don't understand the crime legally well enough to describe it.
	Sure.
	But that's the crime that he was charged with.
	The other possibility is that the entire criminal justice system in this case is corrupt.
	Sure, those are the options, yeah.
	Right, because that's the only thing, like, it was a jury trial.
	Are all 12 of those people corrupt?
	Well, they're all feds.
	Oh, they're all feds, that's fair, you're right.
	He was also an informant, by the way.
	Why aren't we talking about that?
	Enrique Tarrio?
	Yeah!
	I just can't listen to this, and in what context would Stephen believe he did commit something?
	Oh, he wouldn't.
	Yeah, well that's like the thing is like do you think anything inappropriate happened on January 6th?
	Probably not.
	Steven?
	Yeah.
	Well he'll go on to say he knew plenty of people who were at January 6th.
	Seditious conspiracy if two or more persons in any state or territory or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States conspire to overthrow put down or destroy by force the government of the United States or to levy war against them Or to oppose by force the authority thereof or by force prevent or hinder or delay the execution of any law in the United States.
	It goes on.
	It's kind of what he did.
	He, I mean, even like in chats with his girlfriend at the time discussed like tomorrow we're gonna take the Capitol and call it like his winter palace and stuff like that.
	It's just corny weird shit.
	Probably made each other hot talking about it.
	Yeah, they probably were tossing each other salads.
	Word salads.
	Right?
	It's just, it's bullshit.
	To ignore this is crazy.
	He's being selective in what he's talking about and he's downplaying the impact and the event.
	It's obnoxious.
	It's stupid.
	It's bullshit.
	And I don't need to.
	A jury found him guilty.
	A fucking jury.
	Yeah.
	You guys ready for the ultimate terrorism whataboutism?
	Yes.
	You're telling me that a guy is going there to overthrow the government.
	The government is actually trying to pump up the ability to sentence by putting terrorism charges on this.
	I'm not kidding.
	That's what they did to try to plus up the sentencing to be able to ask for that many years.
	And he is such a threat.
	He is so bent on overthrowing the government that you ban him from Washington DC and he goes and sits in a Baltimore hotel?
	You're telling me that's the guy?
	What would have happened if you had banned, I don't know, Osama Bin Laden from coming to the Capitol?
	He's like, oh I guess I can't fly planes.
	That's a good thing I have a good price line and a W. I know!
	Do you think that that is really the guy that's the leader of this?
	That is the threat to America?
	You simply ban him from coming to the city and he abides by your ban?
	He didn't show up.
	Just reading this real quick.
	I can't do anything, we can't take the planes. Why? Because they told us we can't. I don't know.
	Huh.
	They took our frequent flyer numbers away, all of us. Waldorf Astoria, here we come! What the hell?
	Just reading this real quick. Huh. I thought... Bin Laden was on the planes, right?
	He was.
	He was a hijacker, right?
	Yeah, exactly.
	He definitely was.
	You know who was on the plane, for real though, was Ahmed Deterres.
	Oh, sure.
	And so these guys are just doing their best Jeff Donham impressions here to just drive this thing.
	They're doing an impression of an impressionist.
	Yeah, it does seem like that.
	Yeah, it's really good stuff.
	And they're kind of just telling us, you know, Yeah, what a fucking stupid analogy to make.
	Remember when Hitler's gun jammed when he was on the front line in that trench?
	What are we talking about?
	Like, why would Enrique Tarrio not being in Washington, D.C.
	hinder anything?
	As the leader of a group?
	And I'm not saying that he's Hitler, by the way.
	I don't want to imply that.
	You're simply implying that the leader of a bad group doesn't need to be on the front lines executing what that bad group is doing to be responsible for what that bad group is doing.
	It's simple.
	It's totally simple.
	And it's so funny that they went that route.
	They walked themselves into this.
	What a stupid fucking analogy.
	Yeah.
	But, I mean, did Tariel receive a fair sentence?
	I would say yes.
	Tariel received a fair sentence.
	That's what they want you to believe.
	Boy, I used to not fully understand the term gaslighting.
	Now when you live it, it's like all I smell is ethanol.
	Yeah, this guy, we're about a piece of crap.
	Yes.
	Brian Krasenstein, ooh, so when Gerald gets fired up, you know it's bad.
	Brian Krasenstein said 20-25 years seems fair compared to the other sentencing.
	I'd be fine with anything over 15 years.
	Let me just, pull that back up for me real quick.
	Real quick.
	They did push the he's a homo button.
	I don't know if you caught that.
	I did not.
	Pretty cool.
	Compared to the other people's sentencing.
	So basically what you're doing is using as your barometer for what this guy deserves is that other people were screwed so he needs to be screwed worse.
	Isn't that kind of how legal precedent works?
	Like they use past precedent to determine what's appropriate for current things?
	What an appropriate sentence would be, yeah.
	Okay, I'm just curious.
	I don't know the legality of it all.
	Based on the sentences of everyone else, 17 years for Joe Biggs, 18 for Rufio Panman, and 22 for the leader of the whole thing, Enrique Tarrio.
	Seems like everything's kind of, like, in line.
	And our Pigman got out earlier.
	Oh, you're talking about Chansley.
	Chansley did get out.
	Yeah.
	Uh, Chansey.
	Sorry.
	You're talking about the Pokemon with the egg in its belly?
	Yeah, that's the one.
	Sorry, and he's a buffalo.
	I'm really sorry.
	You're right.
	I don't know, Jared.
	Do you think that seems reasonable?
	22 years?
	I mean, it's a lot.
	Yeah, no, I think it's fine.
	Like, Dario's a fucking asshole and an idiot.
	And he never backed down.
	And actually, maybe he's the smartest one out of all of them, but they caught him.
	Sorry.
	You know, but this is seditious acts and now you're, you know, in more trouble than, uh, who did Steven say?
	Rand Paul's neighbor?
	Oh yeah, I don't know if that clip is coming up or not.
	I don't remember what the exact context was, but Rand Paul's neighbor, you know, assaulted Rand Paul.
	Don't laugh!
	See, that's what he's saying is that we laugh at that.
	Yeah, well listen, you've seen Rand Paul.
	I have!
	I don't think that people that I dislike should be beaten up physically.
	I don't know.
	But even when they're like being a real piece of shit to their neighbor for many years, and their neighbor is finally just like, okay, I'm going to knock you over.
	Get your shit off my lawn, please.
	That seems like a non-political attack, so I'm okay with it.
	I don't think he meant to break his arm, but I think Rand Paul's just got those little like avian bones.
	And that was that.
	For all the milk he probably drinks, I'm surprised it broke so easily.
	I bet Rand Paul drinks a lot of drink.
	You're right.
	But it's that Florida milk.
	It's a little different.
	It's Grimace Shake.
	I don't even know what to say about this.
	Where are his people, his representation?
	They should be everywhere.
	And this is why Donald Trump has made everything public.
	Because what happens is you're surrounded by lawyers and they say, okay, look, keep it quiet.
	We'll do this plea deal because they want to minimize their risk and their losses.
	They say, do this, trust me, and then maybe we can plea it down.
	Then once it happens, they're gone and they'll probably go on to clients and other clients and say that they got this guy a reduced sentence as though it was a win.
	Yeah.
	Do not go quietly into that goodnight, just to be clear.
	You do not do that.
	These people do not play fairly when you are dealing with our intelligence agencies.
	They are weaponized.
	They are... Lady, there are parasites out there armed to the teeth.
	Do you bottle up?
	It's awfully cold outside.
	And now he's Stewie Griffin.
	That's so funny.
	Yeah, that's pretty cool.
	Has Steven ever settled a court case out of court?
	I actually, I don't know.
	I'm really curious.
	Yeah, that would be something to really look into.
	Because I'm willing to bet that he has at some point in his life, just knowing his track record for less than appropriate business dealings.
	Something towards an alleged, maybe allegedly towards like an employee or something.
	Honestly guys though, On second thought, I think we need to feel sorry for Enrico.
	I do.
	This man's life is destroyed for an event that had nothing to do with him and he wasn't even there.
	What?
	He wasn't even there!
	By the way, you have people praising Rand Paul getting the shit kicked out of him by his neighbor.
	You have people praising all the time when you see right-wingers who are being assaulted.
	You had people, by the way, praising the man who was shot in the head.
	Was it Portland or was it Seattle?
	I can't remember because they kind of blend together.
	Shot him in the head, said, we got a MAGA here.
	Boom.
	And you had plenty.
	Those people aren't in jail.
	This man didn't praise the murder of anyone because there were no murders.
	Aside from the one lady killed by Capitol Police.
	And by the way, we don't really have any investigations on that.
	Too busy investigating a guy who's cosplaying, you know, as a paramilitary group.
	Correct me if I'm wrong.
	Stephen smoked a big ol' cigar with Kyle Rittenhouse, didn't he?
	Yeah, he did.
	Yeah.
	Didn't he livestream the trial?
	The verdict?
	He did!
	Yeah, and he was very excited about that.
	Okay.
	Well, okay.
	That's all.
	I don't know what exactly he's talking about with that situation.
	Alright, broken clock Steven. Okay. Second one shot the the man shot in Seattle
	Maybe not, you know, maybe not that I don't know what exactly he's talking about with that situation. I was able
	to find I think that What he said that we we love seeing it because it was like
	a maybe a mag or something. Yeah But I got three stories here of other situations.
	A Portland man charged with murder after deadly shooting at a protest.
	A guy named Benjamin Smith was shot.
	A guy named Brandy Knightley was 60 in the head with a gun and then shot four others in the park.
	They were just protesting.
	What did he say?
	He approached the demonstration and confronted several of its participants, yelling at them and then demanding they leave the area.
	And then he shot a guy in the head.
	I don't know much about that.
	I got more stories here.
	Texas man, Jared, who killed someone at a BLM protest.
	He's also Jared?
	That's crazy.
	No, I was talking to you.
	This guy got 25 years for killing a man.
	I feel like he kind of got off pretty easy there.
	25?
	And Enrique's with the 22?
	Yeah, and then there was a security guard who shot a protester and he got off entirely, so... Well, what the hell?
	Yeah.
	I don't condone violence towards mega-Republicans.
	Of course not!
	I don't condone violence towards anybody.
	I'm just stating that it's less likely to happen.
	Of course.
	To MAGA people.
	Maybe because of the guns they have, but... Yeah.
	It's those guns that are killing other people.
	You know, I'll say generally how I feel about a lot of these things is it's really hard to talk about things that are happening just kind of as a result of bad scenarios and bad situations.
	Yeah.
	Because it's really easy to place some blame right on people.
	But the way I see it is we have this like pot on the burner and it's boiling over and we have the opportunity to mop it up as it boils.
	Or keep the heat on.
	Yeah.
	Or just turn off the heat for a bit.
	Sure.
	And, and then figure it out.
	I don't feel sorry for Enrique.
	I don't feel sorry for him at all.
	I still cannot fucking believe they made that Osama Bin Laden analogy.
	I mean, I think, yeah.
	Oh my god, how fucking dumb do you have to be to do that?
	But Dennis, context matters.
	It does matter.
	We've got another big clip here.
	Okay.
	So, check this out.
	The context matters.
	The sentencing is, it's not proportional at all.
	So let's kind of compare and contrast here.
	Let's look at him.
	Okay, January 6th.
	Again, there wasn't even that much damage done, to be clear.
	No.
	Even the QAnon shaman said, you know, we have to be peaceful.
	The guy who was held out is the example of the most dangerous extremist in the country.
	He didn't hurt anybody.
	He was escorted.
	So let's compare January 6th, no deaths, aside from one lady.
	He had horns on his head though, that's why.
	He looked mean.
	He was painted.
	He looked mean.
	Let's compare it to Black Lives Matter protesters, by the way.
	You have hundreds of casualties, meaning deaths and serious injuries.
	You have billions in damages.
	So let me give you this, this stat is kind of shocking.
	120 defendants, okay, they pled guilty or they were completely convicted of, not charged, convicted Point final.
	Sorry, I'm speaking French.
	They were either pled guilty or they were convicted.
	What do you say in English instead of point final?
	Period.
	Period.
	Okay.
	In my head, I'm thinking of my mom.
	My mom, whenever she gets mad, she goes, that's it?
	That's all?
	Point final!
	And I'm going, what?
	Period.
	Okay.
	120 defendants fled guilty or they were convicted.
	Full stop of federal crimes like rioting, arson, conspiracy.
	The average sentencing across 120 defendants.
	Serious violent felonies. 27 Months.
	22 years for a man who wasn't there?
	Who didn't throw a punch?
	Who didn't throw a stone?
	22 years, 27 months for people who pled guilty or were convicted of arson.
	So not that much damage.
	Do you feel free?
	I feel, yes.
	I think what's funny to me about this is it's like me being like, hey, listen up, Byron.
	Yeah.
	The average American makes $50,000 a year.
	Wow.
	So you're telling me there are billionaires?
	Ha, not likely.
	Unlikely.
	Not likely.
	Sure.
	And I should say the average is far lower than $50,000 a year.
	It is, of course.
	I just want to point that out.
	I'm just saying that just because the average of these cases is 27 months, that can mean that a lot of people have nothing.
	Sure.
	They've got no actual jail time.
	But people still died, for one.
	One.
	And that person didn't die directly as a result of Enrique's actions, probably.
	Maybe not directly.
	No, no.
	But what we're upset about is not that necessarily, like that one person, right?
	That's not, what we're upset about is like what this all means.
	Yeah, it has nothing to do with the shit on Pelosi's desk.
	What the goal of this thing happening was.
	I don't care about that.
	Yeah, shoes on the desk, oh my god.
	Cue non-shaman, got the horns.
	Walking through nice.
	Yeah, that Stephen described in some way that he thought we would be scared of it or something.
	What?
	Yeah.
	It literally was people who were trying to stop the certification of an election in our country.
	Yeah.
	And, and I don't care who they're fighting for or against.
	If in 2016 that happened, I wouldn't be like, well, that makes sense.
	They should be in there fighting because Trump stole the, or Biden stole the election.
	Trump stole the election from Biden.
	Clinton.
	Sorry, back then.
	I would feel the same way.
	Do you remember when the DNC kind of fucked Bernie Sanders?
	Yeah.
	Which time?
	The one back in 1987?
	Did we like do an equivalent storming?
	I did.
	I just I just I don't know and then we immediately go back to BLM of course.
	You know what they should have just had us do?
	What?
	Line up in a fucking big-ass line and then like like I'll start it okay well I mean to say actually sit us down in a big-ass line.
	Okay.
	And I'm starting it, I'm standing up and I'm saying, I voted for Joe Biden.
	And then Dennis looks at me and he gets inspired.
	He stands up and he says, I voted for Joe Biden.
	Yeah, but I've never met a Biden voter.
	I've never met a Biden voter.
	They're always saying that.
	I wonder if it's because you live somewhere and only have the friends you have who all think the same as you.
	Or it's just that Biden voters aren't cultists.
	Yeah, they're only going to the Trump event and they're spending all weekend at the Trump event.
	Then they got to go back to work at the Trump warehouse where they're selling the mega ads.
	Yeah, they don't make them.
	They ship them in, of course.
	He goes on to say that average vandals and arsonists during the BLM protests got 27 months or no time at all and because, you know, this is all equivalent and proportional.
	This isn't fucking average arsonists and vandals.
	No, it's different.
	It's a bigger deal.
	If there was a fucking ring of arsons.
	Yeah.
	And like there was, you found out there was a guy who was calling people like, hey, burn down these 10 buildings.
	I'll send you a list.
	Bye.
	On this day, we're all going to burn down this big building.
	That'd be a bigger fucking deal then.
	Well, and then also.
	Oh, those flames are hot, buddy.
	What's in the building.
	That's also matters because context matters.
	Context matters, Steven.
	Context matters.
	Uh, we all know where this is going.
	Yep.
	This is why.
	We're trying to make an example of this person.
	Again, 22 years.
	Unprecedented.
	Was not there.
	Did not commit violence.
	Did not endorse violence.
	It's because they want to tie these people.
	They want you... This is... This is, okay, the connection.
	It's very simple.
	Start off January 6th.
	Deadliest day in American history.
	Insurrection.
	You have to accept that premise.
	Then, Proud Boys were behind it and deserve to be locked up for life.
	Okay.
	Then, you know who supported the Proud Boys?
	He basically is a de facto Proud Boy.
	Donald Trump.
	We need to indict him harder.
	Worst crime, locked up for life.
	All the Proud Boys.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Why is he saying that?
	Tarjo got 22 years.
	Yeah.
	The others got in their teens.
	Like, what the fuck is he talking about?
	Do they want to make an example of him?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	He got 22 years.
	Because he is a guy who was convicted of seditious conspiracy, trying to overthrow active government processes.
	Yeah, I think 22 about how many times these people would be like, make an example out of this guy.
	Sure.
	Right?
	Yes, he committed a crime and the American people should know that if you try and overthrow their government, that you will go to jail.
	We're going to flex on you.
	And then if you continue down this line of thinking, it's like Trump must be worse than Bin Laden and Hitler.
	That's kind of what he's saying, that they're trying to convince people to believe.
	Worst crime in American history.
	Trump is not being indicted for the same stuff here.
	No, he's not.
	Uh, but they do talk a little bit about that.
	Okay.
	Or do you mean the organization that swears off pornography and dedication to their wives?
	Yeah, the white supremacy organization.
	Sorry, Pops Crowder's a huge fan of the Proud Boys, of course.
	They do no wanks.
	Do they do no wanks?
	They do no wanks, yeah, so.
	Like, how long?
	No nut, no nut 2023.
	It's no nut never is part of the Proud Boys rules.
	You can't jerk off of us.
	You can only nut on your birthday.
	And it was something like you can be 15 feet away from your wife, something weird like that?
	Wait, they can't have sex?
	No, you can have sex.
	You can only have sex because they want... they're trad style folks.
	Okay.
	So, you know, this is all Gavin McGinnis rules.
	You can't spill the seed.
	You have to have sex with your wife.
	And there were some rules about like remote work they were talking about.
	They were trying to figure it out, but...
	If you're at home all day and you're on the internet.
	If you're at a holiday and your wife is back at home.
	I don't know if it was any official.
	You have to close your dong in the disc drive of your computer or you're out of the game.
	In the disc drive?
	Like do you eject the CD, put it through the center, and then try and close it?
	Yeah, and then you gotta close it on there.
	And you gotta eject.
	Alright boy, that's disgusting.
	It's like blocking you because you're horny.
	So yeah, Pops Crowder's a fan of the Proud Boys, and he's minimizing the things they do by talking about what he views as a positive thing.
	These guys are just so filled up with nut, and they're brimming to their eyes with this stuff.
	And I gotta tell ya, if we can figure out how to sell that stuff, Steven, we're gonna be rich, baby!
	By the way, what do you think they're doing?
	Maybe some leverage?
	How much do you want of that?
	Comment below.
	I'm calling it now.
	They're gonna find some former Proud Boys who knew their best friend's girlfriend's sister's brother's girlfriend who knew this guy who saw Donald Trump at the Proud Boys 31 Flavors last night.
	This is what they're going to do.
	Hey, you were a Proud Boy.
	Did you have any direct communication with Donald Trump?
	No, I didn't.
	But you liked him!
	Yeah, I did.
	Guilty!
	Done!
	That's what they want to do.
	That's how it works.
	Easily.
	This is so stupid.
	He's mad that a bunch of fucking Nazis got arrested.
	Yeah.
	You know, and if you eat ice cream around the Nazis, they're going to put you in Nazi jail because you're eating ice cream with Nazis.
	And that sucks.
	It's a bummer.
	Don't get ice cream with Nazis.
	Yeah.
	And don't.
	That's a good rule of thumb.
	Also, if you ask the Nazis to help you on live TV and to be ready to help you, That's a good point.
	You don't need to go far to see Trump actively asking for the Proud Boys support.
	I always feel the need to devil's advocate a little bit.
	This is a Venn diagram.
	Of course, if you're a Proud Boy, you're not a Nazi, but you're more likely to be a Nazi if you're a Proud Boy.
	Sure, sure.
	And I'm not saying the problem is the Nazis.
	I'm just saying if we're using Nazi as a metaphor of very bad person.
	Sure.
	And Trump on live TV said, hey, very bad person.
	Stand back.
	Be ready to help me.
	Yeah.
	Do you think he came up with that on the fly?
	The stand back and stand by?
	No, I think that he, like, fumbled over the words.
	I think he flubbed.
	I think it was a total accident, right?
	Yeah, and then people were like, I'm standing by for you!
	They had, like, a stand back and stand by Enrique Tarrio printed t-shirt, like, the next day.
	Yeah, that's pretty cool.
	You are my hero.
	I can be your hero, baby.
	I will die for you!
	They love it.
	Gerald... I can kiss away the pain.
	Yeah.
	Gerald has some thoughts... Wrong Enrique.
	...about, you know, the most effective propaganda.
	Okay.
	The Jan Six Commission.
	It was this big propaganda machine saying that January 6th was the biggest and worst problem that we've ever had in the government, the biggest attack on the government, and look we even have Republicans here that are saying this.
	They never brought in anybody to counter any of the opinions and so what they did is forced everybody to think That this was, like you said, 9-11 too.
	And so we have to treat these people as terrorists now because we've had a hearing on this.
	We've had all the evidence brought forth.
	No, you have had a dog and pony show.
	You have had somebody come out with, I'm not kidding, the worst propaganda that I have seen in my lifetime, and people are paying with it with 22 years of their lives.
	By the way, one of the other guys, 17 year, 18 years that we were talking about, Ethan Nordean, proud voice leader, sentenced to 18 years.
	Right?
	18 and 22 years.
	Just think about that.
	You go to a protest and you want a spectacle.
	You know what a spectacle could be?
	Make your voices loudly heard.
	Maybe don't write and burn things down.
	Do we burn anything down?
	Make your voices patriotically and peacefully heard, folks.
	They never play that.
	Yeah, it could be hundreds of thousands of people marching over to Congress and saying, hey, we don't agree with what's going on.
	That's a spectacle.
	Afterwards going, hey, great job, guys.
	I appreciate what you did.
	That is not a 22-year sentence violation.
	I know plenty of people who were there January 6th.
	I just want to make sure.
	Well, you missed what Steve just said at the end there.
	He said, I knew plenty of people who were there January 6th.
	Uh, what were you saying, though?
	They said that it was just like a little march, a peaceful march over there, right?
	Yeah, yeah, that's what the spectacle is.
	I want to make sure, also, that they're really against downplaying violence as peaceful, right?
	Oh, weird, huh?
	Okay, I just want to make sure that I understand.
	So, if small pockets of, you know, violence pop up during a protest... Mostly peaceful protest.
	Yeah.
	It's totally fine.
	Right?
	That makes sense.
	I just want to make sure that they don't support that.
	That's terrible.
	Okay.
	And this is fine.
	This is fine.
	And then hundreds of people went into the Capitol.
	And again, hundreds of people, majority of whom were escorted.
	We're invited in, just to be clear.
	So this is not, don't let them gaslight you.
	Were January 6th the worst event in our history?
	Nope, not even close.
	As a matter of fact, I think any given day during the months of the Black Lives Matter protests, which led up to this, were worse.
	Proud Boys, most dangerous domestic terrorist organization?
	Nope, not a member, but it's not even close, and I certainly would put Antifa and Black Lives Matter for going by, I don't know, murders up there.
	Donald Trump encouraged violence?
	Absolutely not.
	He said the opposite.
	Nothing that you just said is true, and it is a crime.
	For this guy to get 22 years in prison, even if you don't like him.
	We have to remove ourselves from these equations where we go, I don't like this guy, therefore.
	Look, I don't care what you do.
	If you're not a rapist, murderer, or pickpocket, you don't get 22 years in prison.
	Really?
	That's what he says, he believes.
	What if you committed enough fraud to bankrupt an entire town of 40,000?
	I don't know.
	I mean, that seems pretty bad.
	Hold on, 20 years?
	21.
	Can you do something for me?
	Okay.
	So Trump said the opposite, but did he mean the opposite?
	You know?
	It's like, it'd be a shame if someone went in there and broke the Capitol up into pieces.
	And the Proud Boys aren't, they aren't the worst.
	They aren't the worst domestic terrorist group.
	Are you sure?
	I am pretty sure.
	There's some pretty... I am a liberal, proud liberal, and I would say that the worst terrorist organization here is probably That one cake lady who won't bake the gay cake.
	Yeah.
	It's going to say, we got to bust her.
	Yup.
	No, I mean, there's plenty of skinhead groups, neo-Nazi groups.
	There's plenty of like full-blown violent extremist groups.
	I think the difference is that they, they don't achieve that blend of being acceptable enough by people like Steven Crowder to be effective in their efforts.
	Yeah.
	And I mean, effective in an achieving, not in, you know.
	Sure.
	No, I know exactly what you mean, but I'm just saying that these things don't need to be true for the results to be fair.
	No.
	That's just the bottom line, Steve.
	Like, 22 years could have been worse.
	And there's all these jury trials.
	Like, I just don't, I don't get, what would it take for Steven to think that that guy did actually something wrong?
	I don't know what that is.
	Would he need to be like, Hey, Steve, what's up?
	Enrique here.
	Yeah, I definitely... He would have had to have been a Democrat.
	But even then, he said he would have been gaslit.
	Yeah, well, we're gaslighting you.
	I mean, we're not gaslighting you, folks.
	We're not gaslighting you at all.
	I know.
	Jared, when it all boils down... The Soros check's coming in.
	The Soros check?
	Yeah, because you spend it all on pornography.
	Get a bond.
	Can we get a bond going?
	I bought a gay guy's phone and I am so stuck, dude.
	I got material for weeks, months, days, years.
	Ontario.
	I'm not really for like... I'm for rehabilitative justice.
	I think that's really important.
	22 years is a long-ass sentence, but then in the same right, Like, fuck Terrio.
	That guy's a fucking asshole.
	And it's really hard for me to feel bad for him.
	I know all the rest of the... We're talking about this specifically.
	He's been at the tip of the tongue of all this nefarious shit going on.
	Since since Trump got elected and he's a really exhausting character to just have out there.
	I and you know Maybe he's maybe there's something more to him that I don't see.
	I I'm not gonna give him the benefit of the doubt Fuck him.
	Bye, bitch Stop doing stupid shit to America.
	It's so it's so exhausting that we have to start a podcast about it.
	I Yeah.
	So here's my thought around Enrique.
	I want Stephen to think of January 6th as like the current disastrous jobs numbers.
	Okay.
	And Enrique Tarrio is Joe Biden.
	Wow.
	Fully responsible.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	And this is a this is a cabal, right?
	Yeah.
	I don't know what else is there really to say about this shit.
	It's like his commentary, Crowder's commentary is straight up.
	He wasn't even there!
	Yeah, and that's it.
	That's it.
	There's nothing past it.
	Not only was he... he wasn't there and it wasn't that bad.
	Yeah, it wasn't that bad.
	Like one person died.
	Only like one.
	And it was a lady, guys.
	Shut up about this shooting at the con!
	Literally easy to kill.
	Honestly.
	Yeah, on that note, that's about all I can handle this week.
	And if you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
	Yeah.
	I saw some really nice reviews and ratings on Apple Podcasts.
	What?
	Really?
	Yeah, I really appreciate all the kind words and the stars there, so... Thanks.
	I mean, we're also getting those one stars because our name is very close to Stephen Browder.
	Are we getting one stars too?
	Yeah, and I'm doing a middle finger.
	It's pretty obvious what we're doing here, so I would appreciate the five stars to kind of, you know, push back on that.
	We're still at a hefty like 4.5 or something like that.
	Maybe next week we'll read some of them.
	I want to know the one stars because they don't show them to you on the site.
	Oh, no one's writing reviews for that.
	They're just clicking.
	Oh, they're just giving one stars.
	Then get out of here, you freaking nerd.
	You're not going to say something, then don't even bother.
	Put up or shut up.
	OK, I'm so smart and you can convince me all you want, but I'm going to like I'm going to really stick my heels down in the ground.
	I think that a one star review is not a fair and just punishment.
	Guys, you can find us on X at thanscrowder, louderthancrowder.com coming soon, but louderwithcrowder.net is available.
	Yep, louderwithcrowder.net.
	Check that one out.
	That's a lot of really important messages there.
	All of our sources are at louderwithcrowder.net.
	Okay, and until next time, for Dennis.
	Bye.
	And Jared.
	Yeah, bubba.
	I'm Byron.
	Take care.
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