The Phony Guthrie "Kidnapping" Distraction Explained
Nancy Guthrie’s alleged kidnapping—delayed media scrutiny, bizarre demands (Bitcoin ransoms), and inconsistencies like an open back door—reads as a manufactured distraction. The speaker dismisses Savannah Guthrie’s messages as insincere, mocks the investigation’s incompetence, and compares it to Epstein file neglect or political diversions, suggesting the case is unsolved because Guthrie is likely dead. A narrative riddled with gaps, they argue, serves only to mislead while bigger issues go ignored. [Automatically generated summary]
I'm excited because I can feel the change you're coming.
There is something that is critical here.
Let me see if I can explain this.
And please, please forgive me if my freneticism allows me sometimes to go off into different directions, which some people find annoying.
I can't help it.
It's who I am.
I have 15 different things going on in my head at the same time.
And one thought will lead to another.
And I can't really apologize for it because it is the secret of my greatness.
I'm sorry.
I hate to be that blunt, but it's true.
Let's start off with something which is interesting.
Remember, Uncle Lenny's rule.
By the way, one time I was doing a live broadcast and somebody was in the background and somebody had my voice up or something.
And this person's mother said, are you listening to that Lenny again?
Letty Leon, you name it.
Lionel Lionel.
I don't know where that comes from.
So anyway, I'm your uncle.
I'm your crazy uncle that you go to for advice who says, you know what?
That son of a bitch is right because I'm right.
Great, great line from SCTV, the greatest comedy ensemble ever.
It said, Vic Hedges was running for mayor and the motto was, sure, he's crazy, but what if he's right?
Well, I'm right.
I know I'm right.
And remember, if I tell you, sometimes it'll be exasperating because I'll tell you, well, I know about that.
Because sometimes there are things which I think might happen, but I'm not sure.
And I don't want to necessarily give you the impression that that is a for sure, foregone conclusion, if that makes any sense.
Okay, enough of that.
First, rule number one, always, always trust your instincts.
When something doesn't seem right, there's a reason for it.
Do not, do not explain away why you believe something is odd, something is wrong, something is strange.
Do not, do not.
Just simply do not do that.
Let's take this Nancy Guthrie case.
None of it makes any sense.
None of it.
It's in reverse.
Two weeks after the fact, and now they're looking for gloves in all the wrong places.
I'm sorry, don't mean to joke, but they're looking for gloves and they're having roadblocks and roadkill and road food.
And what are we doing here?
There's also, let me tell you something.
There's something about this Savannah Guthrie.
I don't know.
You know what is?
Let me tell you something.
Tell me if I'm wrong.
Tell me.
I'm going to tell you something.
I'm going to tell you an observation that I have.
Let me listen.
Have you ever seen a fake Smaya?
She's fake.
Her whole thing is fake.
She's been a fake and a phony the whole time.
She's the little girl.
She's high.
You know, also the big fake is that Hoda Kobe or Kobe or Kubi.
That, oh my God, it's like she's trying to pass a hockey puck.
It's like you're forcing, you're trying to convince me that you're happy or you're bulliant and you're not.
You can't fool me.
You can't fool us.
Do you hear what I'm saying?
You can't fool us.
You can't.
We've been around.
We've seen smiles and laughter.
We've met phonies.
And the older you get, the more people you meet and the more experience you have.
That's what makes older folks different than younger folks.
We've just seen more.
We're not smarter than you.
We're not wiser.
Any of that stuff.
Just know more because we've seen this more, and we've been fooled before.
And everybody gets fooled because your first inclination is not to distrust somebody, it's to think, you know, maybe, maybe they're legit.
Maybe there's maybe there's something to this.
Maybe they're honest to God.
Maybe, maybe they mean well.
That's what our goal is.
That's what we'd like to think.
And oftentimes, it's anything but that.
Okay?
So understand that.
Savannah Guthrie has never, ever, ever, ever conveyed to me legitimacy, warmth, its phoniness.
It's this, I, we've, and by the way, I'm going to tell you this much.
In my years of being in legal stuff and prosecutors' offices and working with defense and trial law and judges and criminals and my fair share of crazy people, the craziest people I've ever met are in media.
Television more than anything else because television is now the last vestige of this fantasy world before.
Let me explain something.
A lot of people today, you can take the craziest dame, the craziest guy, and once they're in their home or once they're in a regular kind of a familiar set, they don't have the trappings of lunacy.
Why?
Because when you're in a TV set, you have hair and makeup and cars and drivers and all that stuff.
You've got people yelling at you and you feel like, oh my God.
See, I've been around these people.
They used to, they think, people in TV think that you love them.
I used to be on a set and people would have, for example, you know, look at me and, oh, look, I'm there.
I'm getting my hair and makeup.
Oh, look, here I am wired up.
Oh, look, here are my notes.
Here's the monitor.
Here's my smoothie.
This is my world.
Don't you wish you were me?
Don't you want to be me?
You love me, don't you?
You love me.
Say you love me.
You love me.
Think I'm kidding?
Think I'm kidding.
Absolutely not even close.
Absolutely.
It's demented.
And that is going by going away.
So they're hanging on.
So anyway, so Savannah and these folks, they're still in this, they're still in this world where they, like, for example, people would say, and you know, her mother probably had a big mouth because she's a proud mom.
It probably told people, you know, my daughter's on today's show.
You know, that's my daughter.
That's my daughter.
Uh-huh.
Really?
Okay.
All right.
Really?
That's your mother, huh?
Really?
Today show.
Ooh, rich.
Or maybe, maybe she was.
See, sometimes these people aren't on today.
I haven't watched a Today show.
It says Dave Garraway says Joe Garreggiola.
So I don't know about that.
Anyway, so she's probably got a big mouth and she probably told people, my butt.
Now, what people would really, if you really wanted to impress people today, you say, my daughter's Candace Owens.
My daughter is, you know, whatever.
My daughter is Laura Loomer.
Or my son's Joe Rogan.
My point is these platforms have more fans, more numbers, and are more famous.
More famous than any of those people.
But they don't know that yet.
They're still living in the past.
They're still reading newspapers.
And they don't know what the hell they're going on.
So that's one thing.
So there's the daughter.
Now, something.
This woman makes $40 million.
Maybe she's worth, who knows, $400 million.
I've got no idea how much she's worth.
And they don't even buy the old lady.
Oh, that's not a ringtone.
They kept saying it's not a ring, it's a nest.
Okay, all right, sorry, whatever they go.
We call it ringtone like we do Kleenex and Xerox and Scotch tape and, you know, that sort of thing.
It's a the brand becomes the item.
So I'm going to call it a ringtone.
If you don't like it, the hell with it.
Leave town.
Anyway, so she didn't even have this subscription to the ring or whatever it was.
Tell them, how cheap is that?
None of it makes any sense.
Then they started attacking this brother-in-law.
Remember this Tommaso?
They went after him like you can't believe.
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Who was it?
Ashley Banfield.
Ashley Banfield, who used to work for whatever that other station was where nobody's watching.
And now she's kind of stepped down into her own thing.
So Ashley Banfield, very, very good.
But she basically is going to say, uh-huh, okay.
You don't have me on?
You don't have me on as your hang on a minute.
Close the door.
You don't have me on anymore as your, as your gal?
You don't have me on as your gal?
Well, guess what, buddy?
You're going to really pay for this because I was your star and I've been around.
But if you don't want to have me on, that's fine.
I'll just do this other platform.
Hang on a minute.
Hang on a minute.
Sorry about that.
This is terrible.
Where was it?
Oh, yes.
Ashley Banfield.
So Ashley Banfield was.
Remember, she had the glasses and she's been around.
Very, very good.
So she says, okay, I'm going to show you.
Okay, I'm going to show you.
And all of a sudden, she comes up and she says, my sources say, my sources say, my sources show, my sources tell me that it's the son-in-law or the brother-in-law, depending on how you look at it.
Tommaso Chone.
He's the guy.
What the hell is this all about?
Okay, fine.
Meanwhile, everybody else is doing nothing.
She at least has names and she's on with Megan Kelly and Megan.
Okay, fine.
I'm kind of pulling for old Tommaso.
I don't know why.
I'm just thinking, wait a minute.
Wait a minute, you're jumping on him?
Okay, because it doesn't make any sense.
He's responsible for what?
The old lady.
Now, listen to me.
I shouldn't call her that.
Nancy, Nancy.
Now, here's the deal.
Abduction, kidnapping.
Kidnapping is a special term of art.
Kidnapping is different.
Kidnapping is different.
It doesn't mean just taking somebody.
Kidnapping is you keep, you want to abduct, you abduct them, but you keep them.
You keep them for a ransom.
You keep them as a slave.
You keep them as a political, you keep them for a reason.
Abduction is what Ted Bundy used to do before he just killed you.
I mean, he abducted you, but he didn't kidnap you.
Kidnapping implies holding, usually for a ransom.
We don't do ransoms here.
Where do they do ransoms?
Mexico.
Mexico.
The Citadel cartel, the this cartel, the that cartel.
They even told Americans in Mexico City, watch out.
They will kidnap your ass so fast.
They live for this stuff.
Kidnapping, kidnapping, kidnapping.
So, where's Arizona?
What's that nearby?
You know it.
Mexico.
All right, fine.
It's a different, it's a different kind of take.
Now, when you kidnap somebody, you say, here's what I want.
Very simple.
I'll give you back Nancy if you give me this.
And then they started this nonsense with the Bitcoin, maybe, maybe they did that because somebody got a hold of TMZ.
Why they're doing that, I have no idea.
And then TMZ passed it on.
And you've got to have a clear communication line with the kidnapper.
You don't want to go through Harvey Levin, God forbid.
It makes no sense, none of it.
And meanwhile, the brother-in-law's at home like this saying, Tommaso, Kiegifa.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't even know if he talks like that.
It doesn't make any sense.
They're watching him.
And by the way, his wife, Annie, Savannah's sister, is like, are you?
No.
Where is he?
What is he going on?
I have no idea.
None of it makes any sense.
And not only that, Bitcoin, especially now, well, it's dipped precipitously, but still, we still don't know.
Then there was the second, the second volley of demands that says something to the effect of, okay, for one Bitcoin, we'll tell you who did it.
Wait a minute.
The first one was, we'll let her go.
The second one is, you're not the, are you the kidnapper?
Or somebody who knows.
Well, what about the 50,000?
We're going to offer 50,000.
Oh, and by the way, remember how much money they gave it first?
$2,500?
What is this?
Why is it Savannah saying, look, here's a million?
I got a million right here.
That's it.
And by the way, the trick is you never, ever, ever give the money.
You always say, well, according to the conditions of this is contract law, according to the conditions of the offering, we, you know, we, you didn't really provide information that we didn't already know or something.
There's a way to get around it.
Still, but it's to your mother.
Why the hell did NBC first date say how much you want?
No, make it $5 billion.
Here you go.
We'll fight it.
Nope.
They're quibbling about, do you want Bitcoin?
She'll be like, I don't know.
I'm not sure.
Maybe it's Bitcoin.
And then Savannah would do these stupid, half-assed, half-hearted, I don't know what they were, and these weird cryptic messages of, we want her with us to celebrate, and we will pay you.
So I'm thinking, wait a minute, is she dead?
Are you negotiating the return of the body?
And by the way, not to be crude, crass, or inhumane, but returning the body is another story, is another story.
Returning her alive is one thing.
What the hell is going on here?
It doesn't make any sense.
And now they're finding a glove.
Wait a minute.
You mean to tell me you didn't scour every centimeter of that place?
Every centimeter?
And then a pool service shows up?
They don't read?
Who does?
Wait a minute.
What?
You mean to tell me that the people who go there who are sensibly live in the area don't know that, oh, that's, hey, the lady that we're going to.
Is this the same Nancy Nancy Guthrie?
Is this the yeah?
What?
None of it makes any sense.
So 11 minutes, no, what am I saying?
50 minutes into this.
What is it, my friend?
Listen to me.
What does this sound like to you?
Distraction.
Distraction.
Look the other way.
Look over here.
Hey, isn't this wild?
You think you understand?
Oh, here's a new fact.
That'll get you going for a week.
Yeah, news.
Send all your crews, all your people over here.
Don't worry about what's going on with Epstein.
Don't worry about Pan Bondi.
Don't worry about the war.
Don't worry about how the midterms are coming and how the GOP may or may not be losing everything.
I don't know.
Go look over.
Come here.
Look at this.
Oh, here's a new one.
Oh, here's a, hey, they found a glove.
Oh, here's a picture.
Here's a picture of some guy wearing some Sherpa lawnmower backpack who's knocking on the door with some oven mint.
Don't know what the hell this is.
We'll talk about this forever.
We don't know anything.
Was she in the house?
Did she leave the house?
Whose blood was it?
What's going on?
Forget about Epstein.
Look at this.
Watch this.
No, no, no.
Remember when babies, I always tell you, when a baby's crying, hey, hey, over here, look at this.
No, no, no, no.
Look at this Nancy.
And then all these people who these news people who have no clue about the world whatsoever, by God, they can jump on this.
It's simple.
It's linear.
Missing woman, crime.
They're living for that chance to, I don't know what, make it big.
The whole world's over there.
And guess what?
None of this, none of this makes any sense.
And interestingly enough, you've got a Democratic sheriff of Pima County who basically, if he's smart, he would turn it over to the feds and know that Kash Patel and his group aren't going to solve this.
Oh, did you see the way they said to the, and by the way, God bless the FBI, but they were saying, God bless the FBI.
Google did it.
They went to do this stuff.
I said, hey, here, we have this video or this, whatever this is, this picture of this person, this thing, this, whatever this, who goes and says, I'm going to take plants and put them in front of them in front of the hole.
The hole.
You call it a hole?
A camera?
I call it a hole.
I put my thumb up.
What are you doing?
How about a piece of tape?
What the hell's the matter with you?
Meanwhile, why was the back door open?
Was she ever in the home?
We don't know anything.
And that's exactly the way they want it because this is a distraction.
Don't you see what's happening?
It's a distraction.
Look at the amount of time and wherewithal and firepower and intellectual.
On X, the Epstein files are Jesus Christ almighty.
Look at what's going on.
But they're not doing that.
Not on.
Not on cable news.
No, we're looking at the Michelin Tire guy with this lawnmower in his back with the...
I mean, it's and Savannah is weird.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'm not saying anybody's involved.
I don't know anything.
That's what I'm telling you.
But what I'm telling you is that it's weird.
And weird gets eyes and ears and focus, cranks up that TMZ, cranks up that all the Core TV stuff and the usual suspects.
Boy, they're just all flying out there to do what?
To stand around in a circle jerk, pretending like they know anything.
They don't know anything.
What do I think?
I think she's dead.
I think she's dead.
It has been dead.
And the moment they, unless they break something down, I think all attempts at this have been called off.
It's done.
They realize, look, we're going to go away for life.
Let's just back off, take off, leave.
We're done.
I don't know how they're going to dispose of her.
But do you think two weeks into this, this 84-year-old woman is alive and well and being, I hope, God, I hope.
Dear God, please.
I don't believe it.
I think they screwed this up so much.
And I think there was an ineptitude, certainly on the part of the kidnapper.
Whatever they work, as I think this is a kidnapping.
See, that's not good.
You should never ask yourself, I think this is a kidnapping.
I think this is a kidnapping.
But I'm going to leave you with this.
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Let me know if you like this.
Maybe you don't care about this.
I don't know.
Our crew is different.
The conspiratorium, we like, you know, Erica stuff and Candace stuff.
And that's great.
But I just had to tell you this.
This is weird.
So answer me.
Do you think this makes sense?
What are the questions you have?
What are some of the biggest gaps and holes in the subject that you just find absolutely unbelievable, unbearable?
That's what I want to know.
This is good stuff, my friends, because you and I know it's a distraction.