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Sept. 18, 2025 - Lionel Nation
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WTF: Killer's Fanatical Preoccupation With Fetching Grandaddy's Rifle
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The more you get into this case of Tyler Robinson, the more you can't believe it.
It's in sanity.
In Sanity.
If you think, if you think this is open and shut, you're out of your mind.
If you watch cable news, they'll make you say, oh, well, he confessed, and that's it.
There's nothing to worry about.
Really?
Really?
Now let me just start off by saying.
I'm looking at this case as a lawyer.
I'm not in any way happy in the slightest with what happened to Charlie Kirk.
Not at all.
People don't understand it.
They've never understood that a lawyer in representing someone does not agree with the underlying behavior.
If you represented, if if if Shargal or Jimmy LaRosa, one of those figures, they didn't agree with Paul Castellano or John Gotti or they didn't agree with him.
They didn't say, oh, this is great.
They had a point.
They are to be commended.
These people are laudable.
That's not what happens.
You look at the case and you ask, is there reasonable doubt?
And can I maybe correct?
Reasonable doubt.
And people are into this absolute nonsense, childish, gibberish about is it a boy?
Is it a girl?
Is it a male?
Is his roommate?
Is he gay?
He's not trans.
He's gay.
Are you done with this?
Are you done with this?
Because this is this is boring.
This is cable news.
Well, you know, he said he was transgender, but he was transitioning.
Actually, he's a man, so I guess he's gay, and maybe the reason why he's doing this is because he's upset with the fact that he can't deal with the fact that he's gay.
I I don't know.
I don't know what any of this means.
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Now let's go down in this.
First of all, how many how many of you are buying this story?
Now we know that Charlie Kirk is dead.
No doubt about it.
Do you think stories like this should make sense?
Do you think stories should make?
Do you think official narratives should make sense?
Do you?
You do you?
I do.
Did you did you hear this preoccupation with this guy and grandpa's gun?
Grandpa, gotta get that rifle back.
Hey, honey, can you honey, his his gay boyfriend?
Honey, can you can you can you get that rifle?
Gotta get grandpa's rifle back.
Oh, they're gonna be mad if I don't get that rifle back.
You're gonna face the death penalty.
What do you care about the rifle?
I know, but that's an heirloom.
That's grandpa's rifle.
Do you think you're going back?
Do you think you're going back?
Do you say, what do you think about death row?
What do you think about the lethal injection?
I don't know, but at least we got that rifle back for grandpa.
Do you think grandpa's gonna get that rifle back?
No.
Let's just talk about that.
What do you make out of that?
Listen to what I'm saying.
Focus on what I'm saying.
What do you think about that?
Does that make sense to you?
Have you heard this?
Have you heard this?
I'm curious.
This is a this is live.
We're here live, so your your comments matter.
Don't just watch.
Say that.
That's why I'm doing live.
That's the whole purpose of this.
What do you think?
Talk to me about this.
He was thinking he would not be caught.
Yes.
Is he delusional?
Is he delusional?
What do you think about this?
Why is he why is he writing everything out so meticulously and thoroughly to his wife, girlfriend, guy?
What do you think?
Why was he doing that?
Well, the reason I did this, is it you?
Did you do that?
Yes, I did.
I oh delete this.
You don't know about this.
How about this?
I'll tell you when I see you.
I'm gonna go silent for a while.
I'll wait till I get home.
Why are you writing all this down if he wrote them down?
Good point from A. The time messages would look more real if there were timestamps.
How much you want to bet these other people in this Discord chain?
You never find them.
You never you never they don't exist.
Let's imagine this.
Let's imagine this.
Uh let me see.
Let's say, here we have his here's uh here's here's miss information.
Okay, misinformation.
Imagine this.
Your boyfriend, you're you're some gay dude in transitioning, and your boyfriend is the killer.
Maybe maybe and he says, hey, babe, do me a favor.
Would you go get that rifle for me?
You know the gun that's used, the gun that basically has all of my DNA, the gun that theoretically shot the round, shot the shot it that that that killed Charlie Kirk.
Can you go get it for me?
I had to leave it there.
It's in the woods, it's wrapped in towel.
Can you go get it?
And if you're caught and they ask you, what are you doing with a rifle?
What are you doing with a Mauser 30 odd six Covered in a rag that happens to have his DNA.
Why are you subjecting your loved one?
This woman, your love, you know, your your gay roommate.
Why would you be doing this?
Does this make any sense to you?
Does this make any sense to you?
Why?
Why are you doing this?
I don't understand any of this.
Why are you doing this?
It's one of the most it is the strangest thing I have seen.
Let me tell you what I would do if I represented him, and I'm not.
I would have that jury so confused.
And how about that family?
Couldn't wait to turn him in.
Couldn't wait to turn their son in to the death penalty.
Well, you know, mom says that looked like him, so I called him up and said, That's our boy.
Would you turn your son in?
To for the death penalty?
Do you think your son's a serial killer?
Unless you're worried about getting charged with accessory after the fact, or I don't know what it is, it is no, but here's one thing.
Hillbilly says it's hard to understand insanity.
No, it's not unsanity, it's a scripted story that's insane.
It doesn't make sense.
The argument is that this isn't real.
This isn't true.
Do you see how looked how flat affected was?
If that didn't look like MK Ultra or what you think controlled Ultra is, if that didn't look like what it was, I don't know what does.
I don't know what does.
And if you were to sit there and say, where are these other people?
Where are these people he spoke with on Discord?
Where are they?
Well, what do you mean?
We're not going to tell you, hey Cash.
He, by the way, Cash is too busy on trial, on a trial.
Well, maybe yelling and screaming and looking like a tough guy.
He's loving that boy.
He loved it.
He you love when he yells at Adam Schiff.
You love that.
It's a joke.
It's an absolute joke.
But you like that, and I'm not going to take anything away from it.
That's that's kind of what you like, and that's what you dig, and I that's okay.
But here's this fellow who loves this girl, love boy, girl, gay, whatever, and wants him, wants him to go and pick up the rifle.
I don't understand any of this stuff.
Let me just stop.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, do you believe this story?
Now we now we get to the other ones too.
Then we get to this one.
And we had, by the way, one of our great conspiratorial members called me last or this morning on WABC.
Um I forget his name.
I'm sorry.
It was so I and he was talking about the fact that he wore kind of like a body armor piece, you know, it's like, and maybe it hit and moved up, and that this was really uh this was an entrance wound.
It's a good theory, and the crack remember what I also told you that when you're in this area.
If if I'm I'm sitting here looking at at, let's see, right in front of me is Charlie, and behind me is the rifle, and I hear the do I hear it behind me?
No, you may hear it all around you.
It's in a bowl kind of a look.
You hear the crack and then the pop and the thud and all that stuff.
You may not know where it is.
But as we heard yesterday, and this is what's so important, as we heard yesterday, the shooter could have been behind Charlie to his right.
All right.
So here I am.
I'm Charlie looking out of the audience.
The shooter that got him came this way.
And head shot, out the neck, gusher.
That's an exit wound.
An exit wound.
That's not that's not an entry wound.
So people say.
Other people are saying, no, the 30 odd six would be better.
Who says that's a 30 odd six?
30 odd six was out there, not the one that got him over here.
You don't need a 30 odd six if you're relatively close to him.
So we're gonna argue that point.
Nobody knows the direction of this.
One theory was that, as I told you, when you have the earpiece in the in Charlie's ear, like this with the wires down his shirt, pinned or something, when the earpiece flew out, which by the way, they thought was a bullet or around, when it when it pulled out, it pulled the wire underneath the shirt, causing it to rise.
You can argue that.
If I can make one juror say, you know, you're right about that.
It's another thing.
It's very interesting.
Mr. Rifle says, Mr. Winterfell says, that's another thing.
The audio hasn't validated the sound of the rifle being claimed as a killer rifle with the audio and video.
Don't know.
NPC, you got the video I sent.
I don't know.
Is that the one of the marine?
There was a wonderful one by a marine, a sniper who was sniper qualified and went to sniper school.
Remember something.
You make you understand something.
The defense doesn't have to prove anything.
It's got to cause you to say, I want you so confused, confused about the boyfriend, confused.
Was he going home?
Was that a rifle?
Did he ever check the rifle with their ballistics?
Do they want to check it?
What if it wasn't fired?
Was it fired?
Did they check his hands or whatever it was?
I don't know if you even know if they do parafense at all.
Is that what they do?
Do you see this?
Do you recognize this?
Do you understand or grasp the complexity?
It takes just the simplest, the simplest, the simplest of pieces of information.
That's all.
And the best way to make sure all of this goes away neat is to have him epsteined.
then it's moot and then we're done.
Val says, I'd say hitting the juggler vein, wouldn't blood escape on entry wound.
It's a carotid, but yes, but not necessarily.
Remember, it goes in this way.
But the sound, but but the but the the hole, the size.
They say the size of it.
That's the problem.
And some people are saying why the the the even the 30-on six or anything, the entry wound is small.
You see the hole first, then the blood.
You see this red, then the blood.
Some are saying that you would see a tiny hole, and then the blood.
It's not so much the blood, but it's the hole.
Again, what am I trying to do?
Trying to cause, trying to cause debate.
Lizzie, are Lizzie.
Lizzie says, wouldn't he have had his neck at the entry?
Wouldn't he have held his neck at the entry wound versus the exit wound?
To me, it looked like he was hitting the left side of his neck.
That was the again, right side, exit.
He didn't grab anything, he just that was it.
He could have been dead instantaneously.
Who knows?
Who knows?
Show me the picture, show me the video, show me the autopsy, show me the results, show me somebody who was there, show me the pictures, clean off the area, show me, clean it off, show me.
Look at the forensics, show me.
It clears it all up.
You ain't gonna see that.
And if it wasn't for the autopsy that was had in the Epstein case, you would have known nothing about the hyoid and uh thyroid thyroid cartilage.
So that's that part of it.
Then we're having this other issue.
The other issue is can you believe how this Israel connection where he was brought in where Charlie was purportedly frightened?
And Charlie was told by Danyahu, you're letting us down, and Bill Ackman supposedly at this meeting in the in the Hamptons that said, Don't you understand what you did?
You better make this good.
Suggestions that he was offered by Netanyahu and Israel a hundred and eighty million dollars, and but you gotta change your tune, and he said, No, I can't, and then Candace Owens, who was Candace, they're clawing to own this story.
Candace, Ben Shapiro, who is not owned, but is Israel.
Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, one hundred percent.
I don't say this in the name, I'm not saying they're the enemy, but they are one hundred percent on board.
One hundred percent.
Ben Shapiro can get nowhere near TP USA.
No way.
It is a Christian organization.
It is a Christian organization.
It is a Christian organization.
She...
Do you understand this?
Mr. Wonderful writes, and his parents do not even identify the phone being his phone.
His parents could have said our kid doesn't have a phone that large, but nobody is identifying this as a discrepancy.
The parents are 100% in turning him in.
They can't wait.
That's him.
Turn him in.
Yep, that's him.
All right.
Get with the preacher, get whatever it is.
We're turning you in.
*clap clap clap clap*
Take Douglas Murray.
He is a super Christian.
Are you out?
Tell me that is a joke.
Douglas Murray is a hack.
Douglas Murray makes BB look like Dave Smith.
I don't want somebody from APAC, NATO, UN.
I don't want somebody in Turning Point that is anything but a just a neutral good guy Christian.
That's all we want to happen.
Period.
End of discussion.
End of discussion.
You can't have him.
What did you think of Mike Huckabee, Marco Rubio at the cartel at the wall?
You know, with the Kippah on.
I mean, what is this?
What is this?
Do people ever see Protestants going to the Vatican and doing the sign of the cross and stations of the cross and taking communion and what?
I mean, maybe communion if you're Catholic.
That's a separate issue.
Does this not bother you?
Why have the mainstream media just not even covered it?
Because they can't.
They can't.
It's that simple.
This is this is the thing which is something.
This case absolutely stinks to know it.
Amanda Jean says, This is very good.
Amanda Jean says, I'm a bit on the younger side.
What 22-year-old calls their car a vehicle?
We usually call our mode of transportation car or what brand of car we own.
Absolutely.
Also, Amanda, there was something about the way they referred to, I think the police or the guy, right?
It's the vernacular.
And it's too, it's too.
Is this you?
Yes, it was.
I was there.
It was because of heat that was filled with hay that had to do something to tolerate the hay.
Oh, and by the way, delete this.
Would you also tell me this, being on the younger side, Amanda Jean?
Don't you think it's also irrational that if you've done this, you're gonna say, look, I'm on my way home?
Radio silence.
I'll talk to you when I get home.
There's no reason for me to say.
Maybe a code word, an emoji, a heart, something that I'm gonna, I mean, I I'll talk later.
Why would you want to put your loved one, your gay lover, in harm's way in the bullseye?
Why would you want to do this?
Now remember, if he's crazy, that's it.
Did you see his affect?
He looked as cool as a coupon.
What would you do?
What would you do if you were really and truly a Patsy?
When you say, I'm a Patsy, like Lee Harvey Oswald did, and they got him.
It's almost like he's saying, say anything and mom and dad go.
Oh, and grandpa does he get his old shooting iron back, which is which is nuts.
Imagine that.
Would you go back and get the rifle?
And if you're stopped, you wearing a fuzzy little fuzzy buzzy, fuzzy wuzzy hat, you're gonna have to explain to everybody why you look like that.
Does that make any sense to you?
No.
If I said to anybody else, he didn't do this, he was there to either act as a patchy, he didn't know why he was there, or we found out he was doing it, it was a lie hop thing, is somebody double-teamed or piggybacked, or other people were suggesting this is the day.
Did they say this?
Who were the people that said this?
It's coming.
Are they legitimately members of a gay militant terrorist organization?
Or is it somebody setting the groundwork?
I don't know.
None of it's implausible.
You you have to at least pick something that's not impossible, but none of it may I'm not feeling good about it.
Did they shoot the gun?
Has it been fired?
I don't even know in the case of Lee Harvey Oswald whether they've proved it was fired.
I don't even know that one.
I don't know.
Uh, in the case of Bobby Kennedy, Thane Eugene Caesar, the number of bullets that were fired, the bullets are more than the rounds in Sarantaran's gun or Sirhand, his his his revolver.
That's the most important.
If you're doing something that involves a physical crime, conspiracy to commit, well, that's no, that's just phone calls and ideas.
But with murder, you have a body, and with the body, you have the mode of death.
And with the mode of death comes the type of death.
Natural accidental suicide or homicide, Nash, or unexplained, nashew.
And with that comes evidence of it, whether it's poison or strangulation or ligature or firearms, close, far away, sniper, small caliber, small gun, shotgun, revolver, whatever it is, bow and arrow, slicing, dicing, stabbing, hemorrhaging, shock, whatever.
And with that comes the mechanics of death, the mechanics of death, how the death is put together, how the death occurs.
There are some cases involving a lot of things.
Uh, medical malpractice where it becomes technical, obviously, because it becomes technical.
Um, In drug cases, what type of drug is it?
How did you how did you test the drug?
Is it the drug?
Is that the same drug?
Is it chain of custody?
Is that a problem?
Is it did it lose weight?
Did it shrink?
Is that 28 grams?
Is that an ounce?
It has to be an ounce for purposes of trafficking.
Did it shrink?
Did it desiccate?
You get down into things that are really kind of dry.
Well, so is the particular storyline.
And if it's true that a number of people wanted him gone for whatever reason, I don't know why, but if it's true, you have to then ask is the story that is portrayed, is it plausible?
It is it believable?
It is something, is it something that even remotely makes sense?
That is the issue before us.
That is it.
This is this is the thing which is important.
Somebody says, why wouldn't the couple attend in the first place?
Don't know.
Don't know anything, especially when all these people know.
That's the part which is the most problematic I've ever seen.
Yes.
Um I'm gonna be on redacted today with Natalie and Clayton.
Morris at 4 35 p.m. Eastern time, redacted today.
I hope you saw me on Sean Atwood last night, went through a very thorough investigation of this.
All of these things have to be stated.
All of these stories have to be stated, have to be presented, have to be claimed, and there is nothing too priggish, too punctilious, too specific that gets in the way of common sense.
We have to do that, ladies and gentlemen.
We have to make sure we do this.
And it all comes down to what are we going to be privy to?
What is available in discovery?
And the first thing I want to see is I want to see that morgue uh report.
I'm gonna see the medical examiners, I want to see ballistics, I want to see trajectory, I want to see everything, every, I want to see everything.
I want the wound cleaned, I want to see trajectory.
There are ways they they can take a almost like a like a troll car, you can put it into the wound to kind of see trajectory, you can you you can guess where it happens.
I say, but then again, when you get into the head, you know it bounces apart and then fragments, and there's all kinds of things.
Do it for Charlie.
In the meantime, too.
I hope somebody is helping Erica, the president.
It's gonna be Sunday, it's gonna be one of the biggest stories ever.
One of the biggest stories.
They're gonna have the new chairman, chairwoman cheer person of Fox News.
Um interesting.
So focus on that.
Focus on what happens, focus how this affects the complete and total, dare I say, the trajectory of the conservative right.
You understand this?
That's the most important.
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Tune in today.
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I'll be on with them.
And you have a great and a glorious day, dear, dear friends.
We love you.
Okay.
We're gonna get to the bottom.
Charlie, we're gonna do this for you.
You're not gonna have died in vain.
They're not gonna pull something up.
And we're not gonna just say, okay, nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here.
Bullshit.
We're dumping into this thing.
Feet first.
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Do you understand what I'm saying?
Do it for Charlie.
Do it for us.
Do it for truth.
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