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	Hey, good evening, everybody.
	As the Charlie Kirk conspiracies swirl around the internet.
	We have ex-prosecutor Lionel on to get some common sense into the madness.
	But not only that, to foresee with the accuracy he did with the Diddy case and many others of the problems that may lie ahead.
	Yes.
	In the court system.
	Just for the record, just for the record, not only Diddy, OJ, uh Casey Anthony, George Zimmerman.
	Oh, they weren't crazy.
	I said, he's not, they're gonna find him not guilty.
	And that and people think that that means that I'm for this.
	That's we remember what I know and what I can prove are two different things.
	Let me ask you something, what did you have for breakfast today?
	Can you prove it?
	And now, if you just say, well, I had a I don't know, bagel and whatever.
	Well, okay, I believe you, but is that proof?
	Some people might say, Yeah, that's that's good enough.
	Others might say, No, that's not.
	So it just depends on a lot of things.
	Let me also tell you the latest stuff.
	Can we go through this?
	Well, because you've you reminded so don't get mad at Lionel, folks, because in the past, when Lionel puts himself in the shoes of the defense, people start getting upset with him, thinking he's supporting the the person on the stand.
	He's not, he's just giving a cold hard look at the facts of what's gonna happen here.
	Isn't that sad that you even have to do that?
	I mean, seriously.
	What are these retarded people gotta explain this to us like I don't mean I want no listen?
	I'm I'm I'm used to that.
	I'm I'm just used to it.
	And uh and well, let me tell you a couple of things are gonna happen.
	This really this really uh throws people off.
	First of all, don't even know where to start.
	Let me start off with with the the most important thing, and I'll tell you what's going on here.
	And this really blows my mind like nothing I've ever seen before.
	I cannot believe Sean.
	The number of people, young people, people that I know who were devastated.
	I it's like their closet uh uh Kirkheads or something, people that I thought were slugs, kids who is like no, you know, directionalist barely look you in the eye, and I thought to myself, well, and they said one guy said I can't talk about it.
	I said, talk about what he said, Charlie Kirk isn't what now.
	I thought sometimes, as you know, there's something I call auto mourn, and uh auto morn is this pateller performative pretend reaction to any death.
	Robert Redford died, no words, devastate okay.
	Stop it, stop it.
	You know, and it's to show you that that my loss and my appreciation for loss is greater than your you know, because I've got to be, I gotta outdo you.
	My losses, you think you miss him?
	Well, not like me.
	I thought at first it was one of those.
	Oh no, oh no, no, no, no.
	This is something which blows my mind.
	I went to a party this weekend, and uh, some adults, and uh one guy told me he said, You're not gonna believe this.
	He says, His son, he he he's never mentioned Charlie Kirk, never kids.
	He says, Dad, I want to go to church.
	He says, Who are you?
	What happened to my son?
	What did you were you?
	People want to go to people want to go to church.
	People want now.
	Well, my good friend, Peter Lavelle from RT from Crosstalk.
	He said, in Moscow, in Moscow, people are going crazy for Charlie Kirk.
	Charlie Kirk didn't know this.
	It's like you, you know, Jody Mitchell says you we you you don't know what you've got till it's gone.
	And and people, we never realize when Princess Died.
	It's kind of like a like a performative uh formation, kind of a hypnosis, people go nut sometimes.
	You sometimes they're sad.
	Rudolph Valentino, check that out.
	People, women lost their minds, they committed self-harm upon the hearing of this.
	So you never know why that is.
	So that's number one.
	Number two, the Republican Party of the United States, their conservatives are oh, what's the word?
	Idiots.
	Idiots.
	They've got this handed to them.
	And instead, what are they doing?
	Wasting their time talking about I don't know what.
	You've got the vultures moving in.
	You've got you got Ben Shapiro.
	He wants to move in.
	Ben Shapiro.
	These were Christian.
	All due respect.
	And you know, the latest, the latest switch.
	I don't know if you want to go there with what Max Blumenthal or others are saying regarding APAC and BB and how what they were saying at the end.
	You can't get away from this.
	Now we're not saying, let me say this carefully.
	I'm not saying that Israel or anybody or France, hey, lay off that stuff, man.
	It's gonna kill you.
	This early stuff is gonna kill you.
	Whoa, Bill, what are you power ball?
	You're powerballing it.
	Anyway, the the this nobody's saying they did it, but but lo and behold, you have all of these vultures moving in.
	Ben Shapiro wants to do it.
	Nick Fuentes, Groipers, no, no, even my good friend Alex Jones says, I'll go in there.
	Wait a minute, Erica.
	Take Erica Kurt is going to own a piece of real estate that she that is so valuable, Sean, because for the longest time in our world here, Republicans had nothing to nobody.
	I mean, you used you had the occasional outlier, you know, the the one off who says, Yeah, I kind of like him, and kid rock, kid rock, you know.
	Wait, what was vanilla ice busy?
	I mean, come on.
	This is different.
	You've got Tourney Point USA, they have chapters at high schools and universities.
	30 tens of thousands of new entry, new new uh new uh branches and chapters.
	This is huge.
	So the story is I don't know if you want to go there, but you know this.
	Where at the last minute I watched I watched the very moving speech that Charlie Cook's wife gave, and she said something along the lines of the the assassin uh you know, whoever was behind it, had no idea what they'd unleashed it was gonna amplify his voice and his message and his mission.
	It's the old uh awaken the sleeping giant, you know, the Yamamoto from uh Pearl Harbor.
	They spoke the bear, and they've done a lot of things here, but they but they but the Democrats, this is the most important.
	This is the most uh the most important thing in the world.
	By the way, uh Erica's speech.
	I'm gonna say this with all due respect.
	I could not have stagecrafted anything better in terms of Hollywood.
	I'm not saying it wasn't sincere, it was very sincere.
	But just like Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan gave a speech.
	Remember when the the our space challenger blew up, and Krista McCallough.
	America was devastated.
	This teacher, this nice teacher went up and hi, I'm gonna do cloud, and bow.
	I mean, people were just oh my god, what do we do?
	He by virtue of he he said, and we they would the the bombs bombs of the earth and climbing the sky.
	He he was so fan.
	I don't even remember what the hell he said, but anyway, but it was but it was riveting.
	She is very, very good.
	Do you know what I love the mess?
	They never showed a picture of her kids' face.
	My wife, who of course from Lynn's Warriors noticed that they never showed the face of the children, never hid the child.
	Charlie Kirk, by the way.
	Do you ever see his house?
	Six million dollars in Phoenix.
	This thing looks like a like like a country club.
	This thing was I don't know what I imagine.
	Oh, this poor guy living out of a little like a double wide, you know, he's double wide, and you know, Arkansas, he's on the back of his pick-em up drug.
	This thing looked, it looked like a museum.
	Guest good for him.
	This was worth a hundred something million dollars.
	This he came out of and he was terrific.
	Now, I'm gonna say something.
	I when people say, you know, I was never a fan.
	I'm out of the people I watch, I don't nobody.
	I mean, he was good.
	Honestly, I don't know if this is fever fair.
	I thought enough of the transgender thing.
	Seriously, let's move on.
	Come on.
	We're not you're not gonna win people.
	You've just you beat this to death.
	You know, you're not gonna you're not gonna talk somebody out of this.
	You're not gonna be saying, wait a minute, you mean to tell me I was born a man?
	Oh, he's right.
	I think so.
	What was he thinking?
	Doesn't work like that.
	I think it was enough's enough's enough.
	But what he did was he basically said things like, I believe in God and I believe in the Lord.
	Let me tell you what she's gonna do.
	Remember this, folks.
	Remember this, Uncle Lionel's telling you this.
	Erica will number one meet with the accused, the alleged shooter, just like the Pope met with Mehmet Aliaka.
	Remember that after the Pope tried after this guy tried to shoot him, you know, and there's a picture of him inside the cell where the Pope is talking to him.
	You know what he actually said?
	Pope says, Can you uh can you give us a minute here?
	Hang on a minute.
	Can you can you give us a minute?
	I'm gonna talk to him.
	Yeah, just close the door.
	Yeah, you can take a picture of it.
	Let me tell you something.
	You tried to kill me.
	I'm the Pope.
	See that guy next door?
	See that big old guy?
	He's gonna make your he's gonna turn you inside out every night.
	The howls and the scream, and then when I die, I'm gonna I'm gonna haunt you.
	I'm gonna walk to your house with dragon chains.
	Anyway, okay, you can open the door now.
	You got that?
	Well, anyway, on the lighter note, Erica's gonna say, I'm gonna meet, and she's gonna also say no death penalty, no death penalty.
	Jesus would not have liked it, Charlie would not have wanted that.
	But here's the best part.
	Let's get down to the best.
	Do you think he did it?
	Now wait, listen to what I'm saying.
	Do you think that Tyler did it?
	Let's go through this, shall we?
	When I saw it, I thought gotta be a professional hit.
	And then when they arrested that kid, I was thinking something doesn't add up.
	Yeah.
	Have you seen this latest fellow on uh on uh on uh uh YouTube?
	He's uh he's a marine sniper, uh cypher quality.
	Have you seen this?
	This is video going.
	I don't know his name.
	He went through, he had four different visions.
	He he's showing things, and then one particular point he said he had four or five different vantage points because it all comes down to experts.
	Give me an expert, not me.
	I've never hunted, I've never shot anything in my life.
	I've never been I don't, I mean, I like gods, I like I like pistols, but long barrel thing I don't do that.
	But give me somebody who does do that, okay.
	And there's a couple of pictures, one thing in particular, when you see in the background, he contends very quickly that this sounds like Zapruder again.
	That this this horrible shot, which by the way, please, please, please, please, please.
	Uh, keep your kids away from this.
	This is not for this is not for children.
	But when you see this gusher, this geyser, that's an exit wound.
	That's an exit wound, and that's what I think.
	What he goes, yes.
	This that's not an entrance wound, exit.
	Okay, and then in the background, when you see this, you see in the background, he needs this guy.
	Must have poured over this.
	You see, all of a sudden, what appears to be a reflection.
	He says it's muzzle fire.
	And if you could imagine if Charlie is here, it would be this way, it would be to his right from up.
	And that now I'm thinking to myself, wait a minute.
	I heard this, it sounds like a snap.
	It's like they said it was 30 odd six.
	I don't know the sound of it, but that seemed to be perfectly timed.
	That's my thing.
	Because I'm remembering I like new theories, but I've got to ask a question whether it makes sense.
	Because remember, I'm just a juror, so it's a it's a whole nother thing, too.
	I say, wait a minute.
	It's a and if you watch this, uh, you you're gonna be hearing about it.
	Alex talked about it, other people as well.
	But I watched it and I said, Wow, because he's talking about also how the movement of the microphone and this guy breaks it down.
	Now, number one, imagine this.
	You and I, you're the prosecutor, I'm the defense lawyer.
	Okay, closing arguments, ladies and gentlemen, we want you to find Tyler Robinson guilty beyond and to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt because now remember a lot of the stuff we don't have yet, they're they're not giving us all the information, but what we've seen so far, you do your thing, and I say, How do you know the rifle was even fired?
	Let's get to the did anybody ever do this?
	Was it fired?
	Oh, there he they they like this.
	Now, Remember, please.
	Sean Atwood crew, okay.
	I'm only telling you this to give you another version.
	I am not saying that I support him.
	Is that slow enough for your crowd?
	I'm kidding.
	They're the sharpest, sharp as a marble.
	Now there's this rifle.
	They wrapped the towel around it.
	It had DNA.
	What is his DNA?
	Skin cells, buckles.
	I don't know.
	Because when I think DNA, I think Bill Clinton in the dress, I'm thinking he might have really liked that rifle.
	Anyway, so there's this rifle.
	So you're putting a big connector to it.
	Okay, good.
	Was it fired?
	And did we ever recover around?
	Was there any ballistics at all?
	Do we have something because yep, that's the spiraling?
	That's it.
	I don't know.
	We don't know.
	It looks like it went.
	I thought again, because I don't know.
	Everybody says entrance wounds are like this, exit wounds are different because of the percussion.
	Okay, fine.
	That's number one.
	How do we know he shot anything?
	Well, he was on um uh a roof, was he?
	It's interesting about the exit wing because uh what the way he moved.
	I thought he'd been shot like up here because bullets do funny things, don't they?
	They can travel in weird directions.
	It was a story.
	They said he was wearing Kevlar or body armor, and it went up and then up and all this stuff.
	There was a imagine this.
	I'm gonna do this thing.
	There is a he had on a um uh imagine he had an he had an earpiece, and he had something where it was wrapped around something here, so that when this earpiece flew off, this thing you see flying off his ear piece, and when it flew off, it caused this cord, which was underneath his shirt, kind of hidden to kind of pull up as it flew off, so it looked like it was hit here.
	That's what I thought.
	That's that's one thing that was positive.
	Again, remember, give me experts who look at things.
	See crowdsourced of review is fascinating because you've got experts everywhere.
	I've got retired military, I've got people who were sniper trained from the best schools in the world saying that's not what happened.
	That's not it.
	So, what are they saying?
	Where are they saying that the bullet went in then?
	These sniper guys back here, back here, and they came out the next right behind you right around here.
	We have to see this, and then travels down, maybe, but but the point is, remember, I'm I'm handicapped here because I don't have any kind of forensics, I don't have the Emmys report, I don't have entrance, I don't have anything, and you're not gonna see that, and you're not gonna see that.
	And if you don't think for one real minute that these things can't be fixed, I've got two words princess die.
	Okay, there's all the information you need.
	You've got uh you this is when somebody puts this thing together.
	This I don't know, and again, I don't want to, I don't want to read.
	I want I want it to be a very simple idea of this kid who was radicalized, who by the way was secretly gay.
	Because if you have a roommate who's a man who's transitioning as a little furry, he's a dude, he's a feller.
	He's not a transition, he's a he's a man, and you're in love with a man who has you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna try and he's a man.
	I don't know if he was problematic for that in Utah.
	Who knows?
	I don't know, but you notice how the story he got all he got radicalized.
	Let me explain something to you.
	You've radicalized people, you've radicalized me.
	I don't even know what that word is.
	Jesus radicalizes people, education, college, universities radicalizes you, it changes you radically, not in a bad way.
	But let's go back to this.
	Show me where he was on that roof.
	Okay, well, that he's jumping down, it looked like he was limping or something.
	This is his getaway, some professional hit.
	This is this is Israel and Mossad and everything's Mossad.
	Oh my God, if it raised Mosa enough with this, but he's limping away.
	He's walking around the neighborhood, picked up on every ring camera in the world.
	There he is, there he is.
	Interesting, isn't it?
	He's just walking around.
	Now, if I want to do something, I would have had remember at first they said there were these folks who checked to see whether the airports in the area were shut down.
	They weren't.
	Aha airports, he's walking around.
	Did he park?
	Did he drive there?
	I don't even know what's going on.
	Now, so we don't know.
	In the last case in Butler, and by the way, before I forget, why didn't somebody say, all right, uh, because he's man's got a lot of money and a lot of access to a lot of security, a lot of it.
	A lot of folks and a lot of security and a lot of people who really want to help him and are there to help him, and are who who were there who who really really truly want to help him.
	And you think somebody would say, We're not gonna have butler again, give me a drone, fly around, let's look on top of roofs.
	What do you say?
	And sure enough, the scenario was identical.
	Somebody says, Hey, what's that?
	Who's that guy?
	Are you kidding me?
	Are you kidding me?
	Again, if that's the story, because who is it going to be now?
	Remember, if this fellow, oh, and you can forget any GoFundMe.
	People are told, don't you even think about, think about raising a buck for this guy.
	But if I came in there, or anybody came in there, and let me explain something to you.
	There's a real the real lawyer in me wants to forget the I don't care if you're Sammy the Bull or your Tyler Robinson or anybody.
	If there is a reasonable doubt, I like to find it because that's all I need to do.
	I don't have to dish, I don't have to prove anything.
	I don't need to come up with a theory of well, why would he do that?
	Kuibono who but what why would they?
	I don't know why.
	But if I make somebody say, huh, if I cause one little doubt as to the direction of the bullet, because if you say he was over there, and I can show no, it came this way, but remember Sirhan Sirhan or Saron Saran, which is the cool one, isn't it?
	When he killed Bobby Kennedy, saying Eugene Caesar was the the the everybody, even Bobby Kennedy said it.
	He had a shot here.
	This is but this is Bobby Kennedy, the father here, and there was um there was a uh uh a powder stippling or a powder deposition here, here, here.
	This is Bobby Kennedy.
	Sir Hans was over there.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	In the Kennedy is that why this?
	I was like, can I get the not guilty for him right here?
	Can I can you want to stop this?
	I'm in.
	He was over there.
	Yeah, he didn't do it.
	I've got a doubt.
	I've got a reasonable doubt.
	How about in the case of John Kennedy when there was a bullet around that is entering the windshield or the the windscreen in the front?
	That's it.
	That's a conspiracy, not guilty.
	I can't all right.
	So this, if I can show one particular doubt, bring in expert after expert, show this, show this the way, get you know those those gelatin when you see the way vortices work and and how what an exit wound looks like, and to have expert and expert just say, I've shown this picture.
	Remember building seven?
	They showed all these experts.
	What is that?
	Control demolition, control demolition.
	What building is they didn't even know what building it was.
	They said, That's a pretty good job.
	What is that?
	That's building seven.
	Oh, never mind.
	But if I have witness after witness after witness, and I say, What's this?
	Exit wound, exit wound, exit wound.
	You can't have an exit wound when the bullet when the shooters in front of me.
	If everybody says, No, it doesn't work like that.
	And if somebody says, give me the autopsy, give me the pictures, show me, show me the back, because they take a picture of it.
	Let me see his head.
	Are we gonna do the is is this?
	Uh is this the um uh uh the um JFK again with the missing.
	I mean, I I don't know.
	Again, I'm trying not to get ahead, but I'm saying these are the questions I have to ask.
	And if I as a defense lawyer put on one witness and say, you know what?
	Let's just go forget this.
	I'll stipulate everything.
	Let's put our case on witness after witness, front shot, front.
	No, it was this way.
	Now I don't I also don't think I also don't know what other people saw, heard, or whatever it is.
	We may be completely wrong, okay.
	Completely wrong.
	But people will say, this is the most important thing.
	People will say things like this.
	Just now somebody wrote, if it hits the brain stem, it's not it's not it doesn't exit.
	Then it didn't hit the brainstem, as you know, and it says with all due respect, people love to show you their expertise, they love it.
	It's like whatever you talk about Israel, what's the first thing you say?
	USS Liberty, stop saying that.
	It's like, what is this?
	A patella reaction.
	Listen, uh, you you're not the expert.
	The bullets go, they bounce around.
	Who knows?
	If you saw this, and somebody says, entrance wound here, forget the brain stem here, entry wound.
	You can't have an entry wound here if he's on a building here.
	It doesn't work like that.
	Now, let me remind everybody.
	Epstein had two pieces of absolutely critically important evidence, which said everything.
	Number one, this is critical.
	Number one, it was the idea of, and this is very important: the idea of a shattered or a fractured uh hyoid bone, and the second was thyroid cartilage.
	Absolutely 100% indications, indicia of a homicide.
	Yet to this day, people are still saying, Oh, Bobby Kennedy, John Kennedy, so I once you give people who the first one to give people the narrative wins because they will lock into that.
	People love also simplicity, and they want to begin the grieving process.
	Let me also say something, by the way.
	Another thing, and they discussed this at Lionel Nation.
	Normally, there is the event followed by the immediate capture of the bad guy.
	Either he's dispatched self, he turned the gun on himself.
	They always say that he turned the gun.
	There was something, you know.
	Well, that that's how you could hurt yourself by turning the gun on yourself, anyway.
	That or self-inflicted or whatever it is, but it's always either interestingly enough, he dispatches himself or it's done for him in the case of Butler.
	So you don't have any grieving here.
	You have the chance to grieve.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	And then we get the guy.
	We got him.
	That was Paul Bremer during Iraq.
	Remember that when they caught Saddam Hussein, ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
	Remember Paul, you got him.
	Then there was poor cash patel.
	Poor cash patel.
	Pat cash patel cash patel, two of the funniest lines.
	I don't want to make fun of, but I will tell you this.
	Two of the funniest lines.
	Somebody said he looks like a cartoon hypnotist.
	Doesn't he?
	Like he's gonna go like this.
	Look into my eyes, and another one too.
	The best one is he looks like Charlie Manson's whispering in his ear.
	And so he's there like this.
	So he says, We have him, we have him.
	We we we've got him.
	What we what we we don't have him.
	We found him again.
	We did no this time.
	We got what never mind.
	You know, what are you doing?
	What is going on here?
	These are the same people.
	The Epstein thing.
	Remember Pam Bondi.
	I've got these binders.
	Good.
	What are you talking about?
	And we've got oh, we've got documents.
	I got pages and pages and pages.
	Can we see him?
	Beg pardon can you see him?
	See what the documents of what what documents the well, they're not documented, they're lists.
	Okay, give me the list.
	Well, they're not lists, they're logs.
	Oh, give me a long.
	Well, they're not logs, they're black books.
	Well, they're not their document.
	What the well, get give me whatever the hell it is you've got.
	Well, I don't have that anymore.
	Never mind.
	And so so you also have Bill Barr.
	You have Bill Barr who said regarding upstate, oh, it was a self, and then you had Trump, and then you had Cash Patel, and Don Dan Bangino saying, Oh, I was a public defender.
	Trust me, trust me, I've seen this.
	All right, so these people, they don't care at all.
	You would say to me, What are you doing?
	What happened there?
	You wouldn't accept this.
	If you walked into a to a hospital, what happened to my to my grand?
	Well, she self-no, she was what hold it.
	Stop.
	You've got three different things.
	You wouldn't accept this for your pooch.
	If your dog got hit by a car, you would expect better from a veterinarian.
	But for some reason, our brain goes into this mush.
	And we don't, we we we just I don't our critical thinking goes out the way either he did it or he didn't.
	So there's this weird thing.
	So at the time of this, there's Charlie Kirk.
	Now, meanwhile, every moment we talk about this, the Republican Party are wasting their time.
	Uh Max Blumenthal said that immediately, BB put out a message, wasn't us.
	That's good.
	I wasn't asking, but now that you mention it, that's an interesting thing.
	I had nothing to do with this.
	Okay, I never said you did, but funny you should bring that up because so it this is the most bizarre thing.
	But let me tell you something.
	Going back here, Sean.
	In this country, I know in the UK.
	Oh my god, you in the UK, I feel so sorry for you.
	What they're doing to you, it's not even my heart.
	I don't know what your thoughts on Tommy Robinson are, but this guy is all right.
	Let me let me interject here and just say a few things then that you've triggered.
	So I spent several years with uh a banana associate, multiple homicide murderer, mafia guy who um I wrote his book actually, the the mafia philosopher two Tonies, and we did a chapter on uh whacking people, you know, whacking people and getting rid of the stiffs, and he said his favorite spot was right behind the ear because it circumvented the skull, and it was just you know, it was it was a guaranteed kill.
	And um, I've also been watching Candace, uh, you know, she showing the complete history of her and and I was quite fascinated by it.
	You see, quite innocent, you know, dancing to power, wearing his Kanye West sneakers, sending private messages to Candace.
	Did it you know, was it did he look cool and that kind of thing, and um, but she's really divulged about how he had a change of heart in certain huge geopolitical issues that could have provided an incentive for what happened, and you touched on you know, BB.
	Uh I watched what he said, and um it's it's it's just strange, isn't it?
	There's a there's a real focus there right now.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, there is well.
	Let me tell you something about Candace Owens is a very smart young lady, she's a loose canon, she is gonna burn herself out so fast.
	What she's got planned for Brigitte Macron, she doesn't know what's gonna hit her.
	She has no, you know how normally I say, Well, we got a real problem with the prosecution, not this one.
	What she's doing, there's something.
	Oh, they're gonna they're gonna as we say this now, they're gonna break it off in her, they're gonna show teach her a lesson.
	She went into an area that she didn't have to.
	Most people say, Well, she's a the the the president's wife of France.
	What's your problem?
	So what?
	Yeah, but you understand she's a man.
	Okay, take it easy.
	Everything she says is with the venom and the vitriol, she's like dripping, and the Zionist, okay.
	Candace, she's got a lot of anger, and I have a thing.
	I'm really Candace hates imposters.
	She hates imposters because she's been accused of being an imposter.
	She's been accused of denying her race, whatever that means.
	They said you're a white woman trapped in a black body, and you wait, you're you don't even talk but you don't even look like and you marry a white guy, you don't want to be black, unless it's Kanye, which was how did she even this guy had ding ding ding ding?
	Crazy, crazy.
	There's one thing I can tell by looking at people pregnant and crazy and dead too, but mostly and so she did this.
	Then she goes after Brigitte McCron.
	Then she went after uh um Kamala Harris.
	Kamala Harris isn't black, she's Irish.
	It's like, okay, look, take it easy.
	Take whatever her problem is, she hates people who are not authentic.
	She goes from one thing to an ex and she's just angry.
	You know who the best is.
	You ever see Max Blumenthal?
	Cool as a cucumber.
	Cool as a cucumber.
	Even Piers Morgan, the rocket scientist, cool as a cucumber.
	Never loses.
	You respect her, she's brave, she's reckless.
	I'm telling you, she can do whatever she wants.
	She doesn't pick.
	Remember this, Sean.
	You know this.
	Pick the hill you want to die on.
	This better really be important.
	There's a great movie, Jack Reacher.
	I love this line.
	And the first the first installment with uh Tom Cruise and Tom Cruise, who granted was a more diminutive person.
	There was a scene where he's about to get this guy wants to fight him, and Tom Cruise is about to kill him.
	He smashes his testicles and basically turns him into a eunuch that's crippled and can't walk.
	But before he does that, he turns himself.
	Now remember, you wanted this, and then he proceeds to to paralyze the guy.
	That's what you got to ask yourself in this business.
	You really gotta say, you gotta ask yourself this is big, and the bigger you get, the more you want to hit.
	Let me also tell you what she wants to be very quickly, and then we'll move on.
	She's a lightning rod, and the law firm is going after her, represented Dominion, who got like 800 billion dollars for you know the whole voting thing.
	They don't want to shut her down, they want to shut everybody who's ever touched her, Joe Rogan and this and that.
	They want to bring down everybody because if you had her on and you were pro you, you you were you were you were basically republishing this lunacy, it's a whole other story.
	Let me tell you something.
	Alex Jones, what they did to him redefined defamation in this country.
	Now, this isn't France, France is it's not even heard of vet defamation.
	No, this is in Delaware, Joe Biden country.
	That's the jury, that's who's gonna decide her fate in Delaware.
	So good for her.
	You've also got people who are President Trump just yesterday sued the New York Times for 15 billion dollars.
	I'm thinking, for what?
	I mean, so it's a different world now.
	So anyway, enough with that.
	I I respect her, I love her.
	You know, courage is one thing, recklessness is another.
	Pick the hill you want to die on.
	Is this isn't the fact that you know her friend uh just got assassinated and she's hammering content that could put her on the same, you know, crossfas.
	Isn't it not brave?
	You think that's brave?
	Why is that brave?
	I mean, maybe it is, which is risking a life, isn't she saying these things?
	Is that brave or is it stupid?
	What do you think is gonna happen from this?
	Do you think she's gonna make a content?
	But let me also tell you another one, too.
	Not only that, let's say we have the Sean Atwood Empire.
	God forbid, hypothetically now, something's happened to you, and you your wife, your your your wife and your family, they want to pick up the pieces and they want to move on, and and and you are on a juggernaut, you're gonna be bigger than ever.
	Now I come forward and I say, out of bravery, I say, Well, let me tell you what Sean did.
	You see, the the Jews were coming after him, and then people say, What?
	Wait a minute, hold it.
	Well, what?
	Yeah, don't you understand that?
	He would they were and he was scared.
	Oh, he called me up.
	He said, They're gonna kill me.
	And if somebody says, you know what?
	Maybe maybe this Sean Atwood Enterprises might not be the best thing, possibly.
	We'll just give him a nice mascot, a nice donation, and get the hell out of here.
	So, what she's doing, and then her bravery may be basic makes the showing this other side of Charlie, and would he want this known?
	You know, do to me.
	I want thing.
	First of all, you got to understand something.
	I am I am loyal to a fault.
	I am immorally loyal.
	If little little little Zeke, right?
	If he was if he was involved in this, would you turn him in?
	Yeah, little Ziggy Little Zicky.
	Ziggy, I call him Zeke.
	Would Ziggy Zeke Ziggy?
	What the hell?
	Zach Ziggy, don't change the subject.
	The point is, would you would you?
	I don't get any sleep, buddy.
	Please forget it.
	Would you turn your son in?
	No.
	Would you do well?
	This father did.
	He says, Hey, look at this.
	Oh, that I did.
	Is this you?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I gotta call somebody to get hello, friend pastor.
	Okay, we gotta do something.
	I think this is my son.
	What?
	That's like I was the only one.
	They hated my guts when when they got um when um oh god, uh unibomber when Ted Kaczynski's brother ratted him out.
	I said, This is his brother.
	People said, but he's terrible.
	Say, this is his brother.
	You do you don't do that to your family?
	You don't turn you say, you know what, I'm gonna do my best to clobber him, uh, sedate him, get it.
	But what I I don't I don't understand this.
	What do you make then of the phone call Candace got from Trump regarding Macron?
	And she protected the fact that it was Charlie Cook who acted as the intermediary for that, but now she's revealed that.
	Why first of all?
	What's Trump thinking?
	Why are you revealing this?
	I called you.
	Did you think I wanted you to tell people this?
	So, what she's telling people is don't talk to her, get away from her.
	You don't know what she's gonna say.
	See, let me tell you something, Sean.
	You can trust me.
	I don't know anything.
	I'm so good.
	My wife will tell you, I'll just change the subject.
	I you you you will talk to me, and you'll think he doesn't know anything.
	I don't talk, I don't know what you're talking about.
	I don't know, I don't go out of my way.
	I don't want to prove to anybody that I'm the biggest baddest uh platform and people call me.
	If the president of the United States calls me, the last thing you're gonna hear is me, me say, you know who just called me.
	That's it, I'm done.
	Because if you ever need him, if you ever need a pardon or or I don't know what, wouldn't it be nice to have the president of the United States as your friend?
	But oh no, no, I'm brave.
	I'm brave, I'm stupid.
	What are you doing?
	You can't be trusted, and it's not like somebody's it's like you know, there's an expression in Sicilian.
	If you can get in trouble for saying a little, think what happens if you say a lot.
	Why do what why do we we sit back and we say hey, this is good with a popcorn?
	Isn't that great with Candace said?
	Go ahead, Gandis.
	Come on, come on, and then when they lower the boom, and she gets some 20 billion dollar verdict, because you've got this woman who is the president, you've got the full faith, force, and credit of a globalist cabal, just to teach you a lesson to send it out, and let me tell you who else is next in that response.
	Um, Michelle Obama, big Mike.
	You think she's tired of that crap?
	Oh, if it works for her, oh, this will re this this will take the whole notion of political satire and change it drastically.
	So we are on the verge.
	See, it was axiomatic in American jurisprudence that if you were a public figure, you could forget suing anybody.
	Forget it.
	You're a public figure, you can't prove malice, really.
	And especially when the when when Brigitte's uh I don't see gonna take this, but imagine this.
	I called her.
	I said to her, please candus.
	Don't tell you you're they're laughing at me.
	This is my daughter, this is my brother.
	No, your brother, you're fear the father.
	I can't even follow this.
	That's not your brother, you're the you're his father.
	It's like Luke, I'm your father.
	What's this?
	Star Wars.
	I can't follow this, and they're saying, please, Ken this, one more time.
	A retraction.
	I'm not gonna reach you, crazy, because I'm brave.
	Please, one more time, I'd beg you to do your best to me.
	Please, I beg you.
	Okay, and then it's like, pow, state your name for the record.
	My name is Dr. Sean Etwood, and I'm the genecologist of Brigitte Macron.
	Is she a woman?
	Is she ever?
	I know her Pudenda, like I know the back of my hand.
	She said, Woman here, here is her uterus.
	Would you like to show me this?
	What about that?
	Take that.
	Can this you want to get into that?
	Of all the things to say, you lost it for what?
	Over somebody for a woman.
	Oh this is this was not something big, like you know, whether the new world order, and this you know, that would be something, but this is what and remember, people will always say, Remember what happened to her.
	Remember what there was a guy years ago.
	You probably don't know this, but in the world of talk radio, his name was the Grease Man, and the Grease Man told a joke that everybody heard on Martin Luther King's birthday.
	I'm not gonna do it now, but everybody knew this joke, and it was crude, and it was it was it was horrible, and it was one of those things that it's kind of funny because it's horrible.
	Anyway, he thought he'd say it.
	It was the first I forget the year.
	Political correctness wasn't even invented that it was that day.
	This guy was destroyed, and in my business, our business the talk radio.
	See, remember what happened to the Grease Man?
	Remember what happened.
	So they're gonna be saying, Remember what happened to Candace, remember what happened to Candace.
	But anyway, but now we go back back back to reality.
	Ask yourself this question, tell me, and again, you and I, but what we have heard.
	Question number one why is any the prosecutor going on TV and telling anything?
	If there's a bunch of Discord people who are talking, why am I showing screen grabs or whatever it is, so that they know lawyer up and get out of town?
	And also, have you ever heard people getting so close to ever watch the Sopranos?
	Remember when they were in the basement when this one guy was wired, and Tony didn't say they go, Hey, you know what?
	They got so they got the Vinny Tutan Venny Wall, Venny Logats, uh-huh.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They uh what do you think about that, Tony?
	Huh?
	No, no, Tony, what do you think about that?
	Because he's wired, and he Tony never says he come.
	Well, this is one of these things where this confession is hey guys, I'm sorry, I was there, and you what were you doing there?
	Hey, I'm sorry.
	Uh, you know, I told him if I were to meet you again, uh, it would and sometimes sometimes the the the situation we uh it presents itself, and therefore, see there's an admission and a confession.
	For example, burglary in the United States, burglary is the entering or remaining in a building structure or conveyance with the intensity committed offense therein.
	That's burglary.
	So if I said I went to the Atwood Mance, and I uh the Mason and I uh entered a remain with the intention of committing an events there in the that that's that's a confession.
	If I said I entered, I went there.
	That was me.
	It was you.
	What in that ring camera?
	That was me in the photo.
	What is this?
	A code?
	What do you give me a code?
	Is this some some Atwood?
	Do you learn that with a mafia too?
	This is being like, watch it, buddy.
	Anyway, so look, look at these confessions.
	Now remember, he can't take the stand, and let me also tell you what's the chance of him getting Epstein.
	You know, if all of a sudden he disappears, we're not talking about this anymore, and nobody's gonna be crying, and nobody's gonna be saying anything, and people are gonna see.
	Well, there he was.
	Young man couldn't take the pressure.
	Hell is going out with this boyfriend of his wearing a damn fuzzy woozy hat on.
	She thinks he's a furry or fur ball, man's a nut, got these transgender nuts, and they say, Well, we we knew he was crazy, right?
	What are you gonna do?
	And we just learned from Epstein.
	You you I mean, this guy could be shackled with round, and they say, very clever he did this.
	One more thing.
	Have you ever heard of this wonderful this reaction of all these people who came out of nowhere screaming, screaming out of nowhere, these these people who are doctors and lawyers and and guards and this this mass formation hypnosis.
	Have you have you followed this?
	It's if those of you who like uh Gustave Le Bon and who like um uh other uh forms of this, it's it's this insanity where people in a scrum in a performative scrum say it's like it's a good and they're laughing and dancing, and they're sitting in and they're they're it's like Candace talking about you know Brigitte.
	I said, Wait a minute, take it easy.
	And they they not only hate they didn't know who Charlie Kirk was, but they're laughing and laughing and laughing.
	So anyway, all of a sudden, is this free speech?
	Of course it is.
	Well, all of a sudden it went like that.
	And guess what happened?
	All of a sudden, those of us who got tired of being shelled because of COVID, tired of being told you're not wearing a mask, losing our jobs, losing our this, losing our.
	We said, get them.
	And on X, it's not doxing, doxing is a different story.
	But if you say, Sean At was says, and I and the and the code word is make him famous.
	Sean Atwood happens to work at uh at Brindley's uh bakery, he's a dishwasher on the weekend, and he's he you know, make him famous because you've just done this, and now the next thing is they're fired me.
	Now there's consequence.
	Here's another one.
	They're gonna claim insurance benefits or excuse me, unemployment benefits.
	They're gonna claim, well, you fire me, and if you normally fire me, I can put a claim in for unemployment insurance, right?
	Not if they fire you for cause.
	There was a case of a woman in New Jersey, nice, this this uh very nice blonde um hospital employee, this doctor, doctor, write something horrible.
	She complains, they fire her.
	He's he f well that changed.
	He's gone, she's now uh, I think she's president of the hospital.
	This after Irina, this poor girl, Ukrainian, again, neck coincidence, probably, with this lunatic named De Carlos De Guilty Demented.
	This guy who says, I got a white girl.
	Oh, oh, people are saying we've had enough of this, and these three, four black guys, and I don't even think they knew what was going on because it was it was a strange anyway.
	All we know is now that was different because first of all, it was a poor girl, came from Ukraine.
	We thought everybody, the lefties loved Ukraine.
	Oh, give them all the money they want to get the Ukraine.
	She had to take this light rail, which is like a mini train because she didn't have a driver's license.
	If you're a if you're an illegal alien in new in the United States, hell, they give you commercial drivers.
	See, do you hear about that guy in uh in India from India driving a uh 18-wheeler, killed all these people?
	Anyway, so there she is.
	We were horrified by that, but we said, but what are you gonna do?
	He's a lunatic, he's a nut, he's schizophrenic, it's horrible, that's terrible.
	We thought we cannot be any more saddened by this.
	This poor girl, it broke our heart.
	She was there like this, like, what is happening to me minding her own business?
	And this guy, and he says, I got me a white girl, and there it is, it's clear as it now.
	People are like this now, another one too is remember Sydney Sweeney, this case of this Sydney Sweeney for this genes commercial.
	I've got good genes, and they said, Oh, you're uh you're you're a eugenicist, some kind of a Mangala like, you know, with your and we're like she's a blonde girl with blue eyes.
	What's wrong with that?
	Then this one, a blonde girl with blue eyes, because she's white, and all of a sudden, white folks says, We're about to we're we're we're getting sick of this.
	And then recently in the United States, there is this proliferation, this resurgence of white girl southern sororities.
	I mean like Barbies and uh blue, I mean, and the the folks who are seething, and guess who the ones who hate this amount?
	These weird, angry, unmarried, incel-like cat lady, lunatic, radical, sapphic, they've got more pronouns, whatever.
	They hate everybody.
	When you see them, and and I can spot them a mile away.
	One of my wife members, when I see somebody who's got a long ponytail, gray hair, Birkin stocks with slides.
	I'm oh, they're all over the place.
	So anyway, there's this right, there's this, there's this anger.
	You don't understand.
	A lot of people said, I've been told that I'm supposed to be shut up because I'm white, and I've got white privilege.
	I don't know what the white privileges are.
	There, I there are there.
	This thing is gonna blow.
	You're gonna see people who just have had it.
	Then we have these people.
	We have, I don't know if you had it, but a while back, a lot of urban types and kids will wear hoodies.
	That was a side that you were a hood, you were a thug walking around with a hood.
	You know what the uniform of complete total mental depravity is now?
	A bonnet.
	It is the I'm sorry to say this, it is the African American head gear.
	It's like a it's like a shower cap.
	Maybe you don't remember this, but anybody watching, remember when the 60s where your mother had like a hairdryer, she put this big like a shower cap and hooked the hose onto it three hours later, her hair was dry.
	Well, this this like a jiffy pop thing on her head.
	When you see this, that's a sign of I've lost my mind, and we have these stories in takeaways, as you would call them, or Chipotle's or McDonald's, and somebody says, I didn't get a barbecue sauce.
	I might think they pick up a chair and throw it, and there's a riot.
	Well, I'm not supposed to say anything.
	I said, Who would you uh don't say anything now?
	If they were a bunch of white folks with MAGA hats, they'd be called neo-Nazi nationalists.
	I'm telling you, Sean, I've never seen it like it.
	There, and people are going like this.
	This place is gonna explode.
	There is going to be I don't know what, and Trump is just waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.
	And then this was this sort of was it, but now they're saying it's the left, and what the left is doing is they're doubling down.
	We had the Emmys the other night, and two things are happening.
	Number one, we have a radicalized lunacy regarding um that's really gonna kill you.
	I'm telling you, you're a young man, and you're throwing your life away with that devil juice.
	Anyway, there are people who have some good points to be made regarding uh Palestinian rights and the atrocities going on there, but they take it too far, they make you hate this, and every they're back to award shows, Javier Bardem.
	Oh, he single-handedly, he's gonna he's gonna put an end to this.
	And I'm not saying he's wrong, but why don't you send a million?
	Oh no, I'm I'm gonna stay here.
	I'm gonna I'm gonna wear my kafia and go like this.
	And this lunatic gave this speech.
	So we're having it.
	We're tired of the left.
	So the other night, Sean, Americans don't get off their ass to do anything, anything, maybe for the July fireworks, maybe Halloween trick-or-treating.
	That's it.
	Maybe go to a game, maybe go to a concert in New Jersey, the bluest of the blue states, there were candlelight vigils for Charlie.
	There are there's gonna be one at the Phoenix uh home of the Cardinals.
	It's Trump's coming.
	There are people, NASCAR, NFL, not all but some.
	The NFL, by the way, who they say, what are you gonna do?
	The ones who celebrated uh the National Football League, uh, our football, the phony for but uh Kaepernick and others who who who would take a knee during the the national anthem.
	There is this movement.
	You've got a whole bunch of people now, thousands and thousands of newly minted conservative American young people recognizing Jesus and Christ.
	Let me tell you something.
	I'm as irreligious as you can get.
	I'm not an atheist, I'm just irreligious.
	I don't speak French.
	I've nothing against a friend, I just don't understand it.
	But I think this is a great thing.
	When you see young people who are talking about family and getting married and responsibility and being a father and being a citizen and paying homage, paying credit to something other than their own pitiful, miserable selves.
	This is exciting.
	And then they're saying, by the way, what would Charlie do?
	You remember Je suis Charlie?
	Remember that?
	Remember Charlie Hebdo?
	I am we are Charlie.
	What would Charlie do?
	We're having a is that another signal you're giving me.
	One of these weird uh some other ship.
	We have a guy running for mayor in New York, his name is Zoran Mamdanny.
	How about that?
	And uh, he is a he is the prototypical radical left lunatic, whatever it is, and this guy is being nobody.
	They said, Well, you know, maybe he's got some points, maybe got some points.
	Now I'm saying, what would Charlie do?
	Oh, you're right.
	Oh, you're right.
	I don't know if you know enough of the characters, but a person who's running who is an old friend of mine's name is Curtis Lewa, where's it?
	Red Beret, Guardian Angels, Crime Fighter.
	They always say he doesn't have a chance.
	I'm not so sure anymore, because Charlie would vote for him.
	Charlie would want this.
	Charlie would want there to be anything.
	You're gonna see a sh uh uh uh sea change in terms of uh reproductive rights, pro-choice.
	His presence changes everything.
	I'm telling you, we have never seen anything like this before.
	That's this plate on this on the stick that we're spinning.
	The other plate is the reaction towards transgenders, crazy what they're doing to children, how they're walking around in furry cost.
	I had this holder fellow the other day.
	He says, and you tell me what is with that guy.
	Did you say his girlfriend?
	Well, it's not his girlfriend.
	Well, whatever his boyfriend is well, whatever.
	Anyway, she calls herself a furry.
	Can you explain that to me?
	What the hell's a furry?
	What is that?
	Say, well, it's a fetishistic performative, uh-huh.
	You mean they're plum crazy.
	Yeah, try explaining to this.
	We I never had furries, they're walking around these perform.
	I don't know what this is.
	It seems like people are sitting around creating new dimensions, new iterations of insanity that that nobody's ever heard before.
	Remember for a while, there was this group who who who uh fashioned themselves, they they followed my little pony.
	Remember this one?
	It was a documentary of all the things in the world.
	Let me get this straight.
	What?
	Uh my little pony.
	So I gotta dress up in a furry hat.
	What if it during the summer?
	I gotta wear this hat.
	It's demented, and the left, instead of basically saying, Why don't we have a good issue or two that we can focus on?
	Instead, they're worrying on these lunatics.
	Let me tell you something.
	This is a sea change, and I'll leave you with this, my friend, because no, we're getting at that time.
	Be very there.
	We go again.
	There we are.
	It's the third base coach, you know.
	Oh, you heard that.
	The people standing behind Charlie that were giving all these signals.
	Can you imagine?
	Can you imagine standing behind him and say, I'm not gonna stand behind him?
	Yeah, stand behind him and give the shooter a stand by one millimeter off, converts to like 30 feet, 200.
	No, I don't think they did that, but they were going, no, no, look, it wasn't like that.
	What do you see?
	Don Dry'sdale in third base.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	But you are going to see a case that is not necessarily as strong as you think, and we the conspiracists, or my group, the conspiratorium.
	It is up to us to say, let me give you an alternative version because you're gonna see people who come forward who were experts and the like.
	And don't forget the final words of Dr. Hunter S. Thompson.
	When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro and the go the going just got weird.
	And there's nobody better.
	We do this for fun.
	We will take we will take your reality and split it into levels.
	It's like that the photon that splits into waves and particles.
	We will throw some quantum supersymmetry at you.
	You won't know what hit you when we get done because we have an open mind.
	We're able to say that that this is we're not in a conspiracy, as Gore Vidal says, we're not a conspiracy theorist, we're a conspiracy analyst.
	We've been told this before.
	Our first rule is believe nothing the government tells you.
	Nothing.
	They've never told you the truth about anything.
	They they can't do it.
	They're pathological liars.
	The truth hurts them.
	So don't listen.
	We'll do it.
	And just remember, what would Charlie do?
	What would Charlie do?
	That changes everything.
	Huge thank you, my friend.
	Don't forget to subscribe to Lionel's channel.
	Link is in the description box if you're watching on replay and put it in the live chat now.
	Also, he's ex and Lynn's Warriors on YouTube.
	So I will let you go and close the show.
	Take care, my friend.
	Cheerio.
	All the best.
	What would Charlie do?
	All the best.
	Bye bye.
	What a great guest, guys.
	Thank you for joining in and watching this evening.
	And we have got a big lineup tomorrow.
	So do you remember Zachary King?
	He's back tomorrow, folks.
	Part three.
	Zachary King escaping from satanic elite.
	With Lauren at 6 p.m.
	UK tomorrow.
	Probably I reckon that's going to be 90 minutes to two hours.
	Do you remember Murray, the survivor's advocates out of Australia?
	She's coming back tomorrow for a part three at 10 a.m.
	UK.
	Also with Lauren.
	And the title is Epstein Ring Unalived Exposed.
	We've got Epstein, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew Maxwell on the thumbnail.
	So that is looking good.
	And I'm going to reach out to Hamamoto as well.
	I'm going to see if Hamamoto's doing anything on Kirk and see if we can get him on in the next few nights.
	Yeah.
	Murray is the she lived near one of Virginia's properties in Australia.
	And she contacted us, remember?
	So uh anyway, bedtime here in the UK.

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