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May 9, 2025 - Lionel Nation
01:03:45
Diddy & Epstein: Just Distractions – Meet the New MAFIA Crime Lords
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I'm up sometimes.
I want to mix things up.
I'm changing.
I'm always looking at the mechanics and the metrics of these shows.
The numbers, when you hit, what works, what doesn't.
And you would be surprised.
What is...
What really works for people and what is successful and what numbers hit.
Things that I would not ever, ever imagine would be successful, but they are.
I think it's mixing it up.
I don't know.
I don't want to go through the specifics of this, but those of us in the biz doing this, YouTube, are always trying to change.
Like, what is this?
Sometimes numbers go up, money comes in, money comes out.
Certain months are good.
It's like, why?
What happens?
For some reason, the local walks have been interesting, even though they're like a production disaster, but I find that to be funny.
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So, today we're going to be talking about a variety of things that's going to blow your mind.
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Let's talk about this.
I hope you're recognizing the fact that I speak to you differently than most people, okay?
I hope you realize.
I hope you recognize it.
I speak to you differently than most people.
Let me see if I can explain this to you in a very nice way.
Most people, as you probably know now, don't know what the hell they're talking about.
They really don't know.
I mean, honest to God, they don't know.
We have just as many BS artists, as it were, In our group than in any others, we have so many people that you can possibly...
Oh my God.
It's just the most...
We have people, seriously, who are just so full of it.
People in our group who talk about these things and they want to...
Even when it comes to what Mrs. L is doing, even though when it comes to things like...
You know, children and whatever.
They're going to come in and they're going to save these people and they're going to rappel out of helicopters.
What are you talking about?
Who are these people?
So, they're there.
But I want you to understand something.
You've been fed a line of I don't know what when it comes to this notion of Diddy and the like and Epstein and the files.
And I'm going to bring you up to speed on something.
I'm going to bring you up to speed and I'm going to see if you can...
Put this into perspective, because it's very difficult right now for people to understand it, and I understand how you might be completely confused by this, okay?
Listen to me, first of all.
Laura Loomer, bless her heart, is just busting Pam Bondi's balls.
I mean, God Almighty.
And she's right.
Laura Loomer is absolutely, she has no time for being nice and sweet.
No, none, none, no interest in this whatsoever.
And what she's saying is true.
She says, are you tired of seeing Pam Bondi on Fox News?
I'm with you.
Fox News is this distraction.
It's this magnet.
I don't know what the hell's going on here.
But let me explain something to you.
Listen to me carefully.
There are no Epstein files to release.
Do you hear what I'm saying?
There are no Epstein files to release because Epstein was never the main story.
He was a limited hangout, a distraction, a decoy.
An operation designed to keep the public's attention fixated on lurid headlines, sensational, exoticized headlines, private islands, celebrity gossip, while the real machinery of corruption remained buried deep within the global financial labyrinth.
That's what I'm saying.
Jeffrey Epstein was the tip of a monstrous Multi-generational iceberg and an iceberg, I guess, construction from shadow banking networks, offshore accounts, shell corporations, and covert credit systems used by elites you've never heard of to launder trillions of dollars.
Listen to me.
Listen.
That's what they're about.
That's what they're about.
I know it's fun to talk about this and it's about, you know, Virginia's Euphrates.
That's a tangential issue.
It's not that it's not important.
It's a different issue.
There are multiple issues.
The real story isn't about blackmail.
It's not about extortion.
It's about control.
And not the kind of control that comes from a compromise and grainy hotel room footage.
This is deeper.
This is about a century of embedded financial crime where intelligence agencies and criminal syndicates and the so-called respectable banking class have all become indistinguishable from one another.
This is the new mafia.
Okay?
Okay?
Now, I know Captain says, Okay, Lionel, how about we start somewhere?
Don't be a schmuck.
Don't just stand there, do something.
You won ditty because it has nothing to do with the big picture.
You're the problem, my friend.
You, and I say this with all due respect, Captain Willie is a low-hanging fruit guy.
I like, I can understand this.
I don't know what shadow banking is.
I don't know who.
If I'm going to talk about Palantir and Peter Thiel and cloud technology, you're going to say, I don't know what that means.
Give me pictures of Cassie.
Give me another picture of Diddy beating the shit out of this woman.
What does this have to do with anything?
Give me Weinstein.
Give me lurid details of forced...
That's what you want.
You're the problem.
I've got to start somewhere.
No, you don't have to start.
You start at the best.
You do triage.
Do you know what they're doing?
Do you understand what they're doing?
The public is just this gullible group of people who believe everything.
You think, Diddy?
Do you really think this is the problem?
It's a problem.
It's like saying a fentanyl overdose and the Sinaloa cartel.
Well, we've got to start somewhere.
Let's start with that low-level...
Pusher, that guy who sold the laced Tylenol.
But what about the big picture?
I don't understand the big picture.
I understand little things.
Little things.
I want lurid details.
I want to know about baby oil and what he ate.
I don't understand what you're talking about.
See, that's the problem.
Let me explain something to you.
This is the most important thing.
It's all over.
The reporting is there.
You have to understand how the entertainment industry, the record business, and even politics have long been tools of financial control.
It's not about tracking Epstein's relationships or Diddy's freak-offs.
It's about tracking the system.
Systems that predate Epstein stretch back to the mafia's influence in Hollywood.
There really is no more mafia anymore.
This is the new mafia.
This is it.
It's not John A. Light or Franzese or Sammy the Bull or these other people.
That is so ancient.
That's like Al Capone prohibition.
Yeah, they were big in Hollywood and Las Vegas, but now it extends from Wall Street, Silicon Valley, and beyond.
People don't even understand yet what AI is about.
People like Les Wexner, you don't even know.
You want to start somewhere?
Start with him.
They weren't just friends of Epstein.
They were financial architects.
Go down the line, the Diamond, the Pritzker family, the usual suspects, all part of a sprawling nexus where money laundering isn't a crime, it's business as usual.
And I mention these names.
Because they're the biggest names.
Elon Musk, Trump.
Do you understand what Eric Trump is doing and what Trump is doing with cryptocurrency?
If it were anybody else, you'd say, hey, this isn't right.
But because we like Trump, what are you going to do?
Right?
Am I right?
Of course I'm right.
These aren't outliers.
These are institutionalized power brokers.
They're camouflaged in philanthropy and tech jargon.
Let me tell you something.
Elon Musk.
Do you know that the good guys and the bad guys are almost indistinguishable?
Elon Musk and other Silicon Valley, I guess, titans, aren't just quirky billionaires.
They're plugged into the same infrastructure.
Offshore influence, equity manipulation, AI surveillance, synthetic control.
The new mafia doesn't wear pinstripes or, you know, carry Tommy guns in a violin case.
They run hedge funds and serve on NGO boards.
What do you think USAID was?
And when Pam Bondi says, I've got some files, spare me.
Spare me.
I mean, they don't host...
Am I making sense to you?
Wet work.
What are you saying?
With all due respect, Happy, what does that mean?
Do we just say things?
It's not just you.
People just, they don't understand it.
They say, What were DARPA, Epstein, Lolita Express?
Just what?
Do you really, do you, listen, if you don't understand, just tell me.
Be honest.
Who doesn't understand this?
Who doesn't understand this?
Somebody said, do you want to start somewhere?
Do you really care about Diddy?
Criminal networks operating under cover of national security.
Now we're getting someplace.
But at the very rung of this, at the very rung, you're going to hear names ultimately.
Go down the list.
Naomi Campbell.
What's she all about?
The Kardashians.
Oprah.
I'm just going to throw names.
What do you think these people are about?
Everywhere.
Bill Cosby, to an extent, his was more of a private thing.
Look at you.
The other night we had, there are people I know, you missed the whole point of the Met Gala.
Everybody.
You talk about dresses and who wore this and who said something stupid.
That's not what it's about.
That's not what it's about at all.
That's not it.
I don't even know how to tell you this.
How do I explain this to people who are unsophisticated?
How do I explain things to people who don't really understand?
How do I understand people who don't really get what this is all about?
How do I explain this?
How do I put this into perspective?
People who've never understood this.
And they think, again, it's about Epstein and yeah, part of it is, you know.
Do you really think this is about Ehud Barak and Dershowitz and other people collecting videos?
What do you think you're going to do with a video of Prince Andrew?
What do you think you're going to do?
What?
You're going to turn on Prince Andrew?
Are you kidding me?
Do you really think they're going to say, hey Prince, you got to do this while I got this video of you?
Excuse me, what?
I'm one of you.
You think you're going to go to what?
Bill Gates?
And you're going to tell Bill Gates, listen, you better do something for me.
I'm going to turn these pictures on.
What?
First of all, I'm going to contest them.
This was AI.
You do know that nobody believes in pictures.
Nobody believes in.
Nobody.
Nobody.
I don't care what it is.
It's not me.
A picture's worth a thousand words.
No, it's not.
You think this is about blackmail?
You think they're still using blackmail?
The real mechanism is digital leverage, financial surveillance, algorithmic targeting, AI-enhanced behavioral prediction, electronic blackmail isn't coming.
It's already here.
Deep profiles, digital dossiers, metadata triangulation, all stored, all monetized, all weaponized.
These don't need to trap you in a room.
They already own your data, your debt, and your digital identity.
Do you think anybody cares about you and what you're doing in a hotel room?
Do you?
I mean, seriously.
Are you kidding?
Look at this.
Mr. Mike says, I have to say before I forget, Mrs. L crushed it on Atwood yesterday.
Hear that?
Crushed it.
Absolutely.
Reptilian humanoids.
Happy.
Is this this David Icke stuff?
Seriously.
Do you believe in this David Icke reptilian...
What?
What?
I'm talking about reality and you're talking about reptiles?
And then what?
Amphibious royals?
What are you talking about?
We get...
I've got to pull people back into the...
Back into the bus.
What are you talking about?
Epstein was used to create a choke point, to keep the story manageable and the outrage contained.
By focusing public interest and fury and anger on one man, the system protected the architecture.
The media played along and it amplified all this salacious and scabrous and concupiscent detail.
But ignoring the banks, private equity funds, the real estate trusts, and the multinational conglomerates fueling it all.
That's what it's about.
You were looking down here.
Nobody cares about this.
I mentioned this last night.
In the mob, we have or had porn.
Remember that guy DB?
The one that Gotti supposedly whacked because he didn't answer his call.
D.B. DiBernardo or whatever.
Roy DeMeo.
You know, they had all the skin shops and the peak booths and all that crap on Times Square and, you know, adult books and all that crap.
And with porn came all kinds of dark, nasty.
Mob's not going to look the other way.
They didn't have any morals.
They didn't have any morals.
Everything you can imagine, I'll leave it at that.
Use your imagination.
Of course they were part of that.
But, that was the bottom rung.
If I went to Paul Castellano and said, you went to porn, you'd say, what?
Porn?
Oh, yeah, well, yeah, a little bit.
We're into porn, a little bit of a...
Sometimes they would extort businesses and shylocking on the street and numbers.
That was a part of it.
But the big stuff, the big stuff, you know, construction and big labor and all of that, that's what they make.
Oh, God.
That's what this is about.
But see, somebody said before, we've got to start somewhere.
You're looking at Diddy because he's identifiable.
And plus, too, here's this stupid black guy who thought he could make him with this cristal.
Look at all these thugs.
There's a part of this.
Because deep down inside, you may not say it, but a lot of folks hate hip-hoppers.
Hate them.
They throw it into this kind of a ghetto, vile, kind of militant, black, angry Jasmine Crockett, Fanny, all this, you know, a lot of these crazy...
And they won't say it, but it's true.
Look at Lori Cuck there, ladies and gentlemen.
Lori's up.
She's ready to go.
Them bastards are clever devils.
By the way, what's favorite Chicago album?
To Jam?
To Jam?
You know, I've got a lot of them.
By the way, if you want to hear some of the best stuff, listen to Street Player.
I forget what Albany was.
Cetera was at his best with Maynard Ferguson doing the trumpet solo.
Also Donnie Denkis who picked up for Chris Pinnock.
It's terrific.
But thank you for that.
You see, this is the thing which we need to get a hold of.
We can't get into...
Conspiracy theory.
We have to get into conspiracy realism.
See, the documents are public and the patterns are visual.
Follow the money, not the headlines.
Look at the DOJ settlements no one talks about.
Look at HSBC's wrist slap for laundering drug cartel money.
Look at how Deutsche Bank paid fines for Epstein's accounts.
And then there's also the others, the Chase and everything too.
This is where Jamie Dimon comes in.
Jimmy's not directly involved in trafficking or anything like that, but still he's a part of this superstructure.
No executive saw a day in jail.
But we're talking about Epstein, you know, the diaries or something, the black book.
Epstein was disposable.
He was a pawn.
He served his purpose.
He was removed.
He was removed.
The story was about him, and you were satisfied.
You figure the story's over.
He's a limited hangout.
Does everybody know what a limited hangout is?
Be honest with me.
Does everybody know what a limited hangout is?
What is the definition of a limited hangout?
That's the story.
Everybody know?
I want you to master this.
This is the critical thing.
I've been talking about it for a million years.
A limited hangout is a term, an intel term.
Nixon mentioned it.
It's kind of weird.
It's like, what's hanging out?
It's a weird phrase.
But a limited hangout is from intelligence conspiracy context.
Conspiracy where two or more people involved in a particular engagement in criminal conduct.
But it refers to a strategy where A partial truth, a partial exposure, a selective partial revelation, information, deliberately revealed partially to the public to distract from a larger, more damaging, more critical truth.
You give part of it up.
Now, the goal is to satisfy curiosity or to appease scrutiny.
Well, keeping the full kind of scope of the endeavor hidden.
Think of it as a controlled leak, admitting to a lesser scandal to avoid exposing a bigger one.
Also, it's a distraction.
For example, a government might release minor details about some controversial operation to divert attention from a bigger one, more unethical activities.
Remember, the first thing people jump on, they blow up, to use a rustling term.
They exert all of their attention and all of their efforts in analyzing the initial thing that is given out.
They don't have time to say, wait a minute, that's not it.
The term is often attributed to former CIA director Richard Helms and to gain attraction in discussions around Watergate.
We've been hearing about this term forever.
And it's something which is really, really, really critical.
You have to use it.
It's like if you're going to be caught with something.
What does Laurie say here?
Laurie says, they put out bait to throw us off.
Yes.
But it's not just bait, Laurie.
It's little bait.
I'm hanging on Eric T. Walter's wisdom.
Yes.
By the way, tonight I'm going to be talking to our good friend Charles Orkell.
About the latest?
That's always a good one.
I don't do a lot of interviews because...
But they're very, very good.
So what's happening here is...
Let me see if I can give you a story.
They love to say things in broad daylight.
They love to...
They love to proceed Proceed with...
How do I say this?
They love to expose things that are limited in many respects, but they don't really get the big picture.
I'll give you an example.
The other day, there was the Met Gala.
The Met Gala is where the real eyes wide shut folks They're running for the hills.
They don't know what to do.
They're really scared now.
See, they had a run with Joe Biden.
I mean, but not only there, that was a part of it.
When we don't know what Doge cut out yet, they're not done yet.
It may look, just because you think, you know, Elon is, boy, he was there every day.
He was sleeping on the couch and then he's gone.
They're not done with it.
They're not done with it at all.
Not at all.
You see, that's one of the most important things in the world.
That's what's critical.
You've got to understand this, which is really interesting.
They're not through with it.
Now, USAID, let's call it that, was basically the funneling device.
It was the paymaster for everything.
Buying subscriptions.
Oh, you got any magazines?
No problem.
Oh, Politico's not selling?
We'll spend a million dollars in subscriptions.
How is that?
Are you happy?
We'll do that.
We'll do whatever you want.
Mrs. Stacey said, morning coffee on treadmill and watching the lineup.
Maybe fairy tales of monsters were uneducated.
Maybe fairy tales of monsters were how uneducated were taught in the past.
Yes!
Yes!
By the way, good for you with a treadmill.
Remember, you need just a little bit of activity to have the most profound effect on you, not only cardiovascularly, but in order for you to jump to the next level, you need so much of a greater increase in activity that it's noted.
What I'm trying to say is, just do anything.
Just relax.
Put on music.
Just move.
That's all.
Continuous.
Have your body say, what's he doing?
He's moving.
I can't say that enough.
Very, very good.
I saw a story the other day for Peloton.
Remember when Peloton was so huge during the COVID?
Peloton.
It was going off.
It was going crazy.
Whatever.
I like walking around with my camera talking to or pointing to last night on Times Square was wild.
But let me go back to what I'm saying.
Nobody.
I could walk into any newsroom, any talk radio, anybody, and say, what do you know about the Met Gala?
Anything?
No.
Nothing.
What do you know about symbology?
What do you know about this?
What do you think about the occult?
What do you know about this?
I don't believe in Satan, but I believe in Satan-ness.
Years ago, there was a fellow named Maury Terry.
And Maury Terry was the one who really spilled the beans on the Son of Sam.
That the Son of Sam, that was all bullshit.
That story was...
He was there because they were doing snuff films.
That's right, snuff films.
He wasn't present in half of those things.
I think it was the Stacey Moskowitz.
They were filming actual...
Think about this.
Murders.
You want to put a price on that?
Anybody ever see that?
You see, the way that people...
You have to understand, just like anything else, have you ever taken a drug?
Let's say you have a pain.
You take a couple of Vicodin or something or Percocet or whatever it is.
And at first you take it, the first day you think, wow, this is...
Man, oh, oh, Jesus.
And then...
You realize, I need two of them.
Why?
Because my body has built up a resistance.
Well, that's what this is.
A friend of mine told me something years ago.
He was very much involved in this.
In fact, he told me a lot of what goes on behind the scenes.
And I've got to clear this up for purposes of YouTube algorithms.
But there was a woman, you would know her name.
And she made this statement.
She says, the only person, she looked at men.
She looked at relationships as almost like scalps on a wall.
Something shocking, something, whatever it was.
Because she was just bored with it.
You know, relationships?
No, because she's, I'm at this level.
She made a statement.
And she said something to the effect that the person that she was the most interested in, the most the person, the person that she was the most.
Focused on was her son.
You heard me.
Her son.
I don't know if it ever happened.
I don't know if it ever came about.
But my friend who was there and kind of overheard this said the reason why what was said was he is the only one who will say no.
You hear what I'm saying?
When you start off, you are, imagine, you are Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, Mick Jagger, Madonna, Beyonce, Jay-Z.
You are in a stratosphere.
And you're the person I want.
Remember, I'm not Anton LaVey.
I'm not some Satanist.
I want you.
You're the one I like.
This is good.
This is good.
Sometimes people like to do it just because they like to do it.
And the next thing you know, keep an eye on them.
They have parties.
Look at this.
Brian says, hit that like button.
Thank you, Bri, Bri.
Thank you for that.
So they see somebody.
They see somebody.
And you're Mick Jagger.
I'm not saying that.
I'm just giving you an example.
And God knows, the Beatles, from what I understand, were pretty, put it this way, the Stones were considered pretty wild.
Charlie Watts was a real straight arrow, and a lot of people were.
Anyway, so you go to a party.
Now you're 20-something years old.
Remember when you were 20 years old and you were just a bum in college?
You know what I mean?
You were just, you were a wild man.
Because you were young at the time.
You don't know.
Sometimes people are rational.
Sometimes people aren't.
They go crazy.
Well, you're Mick Jagger.
And they're throwing people at you.
And people, women, want to kill to be with you.
You can do whatever you want.
You want two, three, five, ten, a room?
You want drugs?
Champagne?
What do you want?
The world is your oyster.
So you don't pay for bills.
You don't even know where your money is.
You don't even know anything.
You don't know how much you've got.
You don't know anything.
And you're primed for, by the way, being ripped off.
So what do you do next?
Twins.
I want twins.
Okay.
Twins.
Mother and daughter.
Families.
Grandmothers.
Shetland ponies.
You're out of your mind.
You're just, what can I do?
Next.
And then somebody says, hey, what kind of watch is it?
Oh, that's a Jacob.
Is it a guy Jacob?
You know Jacob, the stars of 57th Street?
Oh my God, you get these watches.
Watch a Jacob.
Watch that.
Well, that's not gold.
I wear platinum.
One time, Mrs. L and I were at the TikTok Diner on Route 3. This was down the street from, I still call it the Meadowlands.
And the Stones came in.
Mick Jagger came in.
It's right down the street.
It's kind of a popular place.
And Jersey Diners are just another world.
Anyway, there was a kid behind me, very respectful.
Dripping in platinum.
Platinum.
Big like a horse.
I don't know who he was.
He must have had a million dollars.
I'm telling you, platinum, white diamonds.
What do you think he's going to want next?
He did that because somebody else has it.
So this one has a party.
This one's going to party.
You've got Diddy who's a...
He's got his Hamptons white party.
They want to go to the white party.
And it just keeps escalating.
And then somebody gets into this.
Abramovich, spirit cooking, occult, Satan, mysticism, symbology, whatever the hell it is.
You wear horns, I wear two horns.
I've got this.
Marilyn Manson, ooh, that's good.
Alice Cooper, Alice Cooper.
It just keeps, it's all artificial, but the momentum, the momentum.
And then people get involved in other stuff too.
And then trafficking before you know it.
All of these people can say, I didn't have anybody come here.
Against their will, was it?
Okay, fine.
That's down at this level.
But at a higher level, above that, do you think the cartel, the big banks around the world are making money from what?
From trafficking?
A little bit.
But not really.
Sometimes trafficking took place just to appease people in the business.
There were people in the music business.
There was a...
You've got to read this book called Vegas Concierge by Brian Joseph.
Mrs. L. had her...
What is her name again, honey?
Angela Williams.
You can't believe the stories.
But that's down here.
It's big.
It's important.
It's huge.
It's down here.
Up here at the top.
Give me somebody...
When you're Peter Thiel and you own Palantir or you own...
Or you're Elon Musk.
You think Elon...
I mean...
Do you, and I'm not saying they're doing anything that's illegal, but you're talking about perhaps trillions of dollars of defense and money and if I'm Elon, I'm going to shake hands with this guy.
I'm going to know this guy and this guy and this guy.
And I mean this is, and the real people are the ones you've never heard of.
This is where it's all about.
The thing about organized crime in particular from day one is they have to make money.
They have to make a lot of money.
And the more money they make and the more legitimate it seems, the better.
What better way to get into it than entertainment?
From the days of Lou Wasserman and MCA to Morris Levy.
Yesterday I did a little tour.
I was walking in front of the Brill Building, right there in Broadway.
Jack Dempsey used to be there.
Right there.
Tommy James, whom I've met.
Tommy James.
Go look at him.
Remember Tommy James and Chantel?
Look at him at Roulette Records and Morris Levy.
Look!
Look what they did!
This guy was just mobbed up.
He was a thug.
I mean, a thug.
A gangster.
And this was moany moany and...
You know how much money they made?
They never stopped.
The mob's always been involved in this.
But above that, there was Vegas here, but above that...
There were international cartels.
And then came drugs.
Drugs were international.
Now you're getting out.
Remember before, in the 20s, it was bootlegging.
Canada, Bahamas, we basically made it.
You bring the molasses in from this and this.
Drugs made it international.
Telecommunications were spreading out.
And when it got bigger and bigger and bigger, do you think for a moment, let me ask you something.
Yes or no?
Do you think the drug cartels can be taken out?
Do you believe the drug cartels can be actually taken out?
Do you believe the drug cartels can be taken out?
If we wanted to stop the drug cartels, we know who they are.
You know who the intel is.
El Chapo this, El Chapo that.
Do you think, seriously, The United States Army.
Anybody.
82nd Airborne.
Let's assume that whatever her name is, Schmingenhausen, whatever her name is from Mexico.
You think maybe she could say, listen, you can do me a favor.
Can you help us take out the Cali cartel?
That's calling me a bit.
The Sinaloa, whatever.
Yeah.
Sure.
Do you think so?
I think so.
I think so.
I'll get this one.
You have the intel?
We got the 5-10 people.
Okay, we'll take them out.
I take the top 10 people out.
See, they're not...
Let me explain something to you.
What Lucky Luciano did with the mob is something that nobody else did.
It's the reason why the Westies didn't work.
It's the reason why the uptown Harlem, Nicky Barnes and all that...
What Lucky Luciano said was, I want to make sure that when I leave, if something happens to me, the organization goes on.
Lori says USA GDP will go down without drugs.
Well, yeah, but we'll get to that in a moment.
You're right.
Well, maybe.
We'll see.
But what happens is, in the mob here, the commission trial that Giuliani did with Fat Tony, Carmine Persico, Tony Duxcarallo, Gotti, Paul Casanova.
Do you think that killed the mob?
No.
Why?
Because Lucky Luciano specifically said, I want to have the boss, the underboss, the consigliere, the capo, all these other names.
So that whenever there's somebody who's removed, the organization continues.
Other people didn't do that.
The Kali cartel, I mean, I keep saying Kali, the Sinaloa and others, if you remove the top guy, bottom guy, second guy, third guy, you're going to see organizational problems because you've got people, you've got money, you've got...
They don't necessarily groom the next tier.
They're just protected.
They don't worry about organizational handing off.
El Chapo, every now and then somebody gets it.
El Chapo, why did he?
What did he do?
I don't know.
Why Epstein?
I don't know.
We could talk about this all day.
Why certain people are found?
I don't know.
I don't know.
But what we need to do is understand that we could take him out.
Now, where's that money going?
When you have billions and billions and maybe trillions of dollars totally, there's people being paid off.
Everybody's making something.
You don't want this to go away.
You don't want this to go away.
So President Trump has to realize, listen, if I get rid of drug trafficking completely, if it just doesn't exist anymore, that is a $1 trillion, let's say, industry that's just gone tomorrow.
It's just gone.
All of the derivative people, they're not going to get their cut, the banks, the politicians.
Do you know that Miami, Miami, you ever been there?
Miami was made.
On drug money.
Cocaine money.
They pumped more money.
I remember in the 80s.
Let me tell you something.
Drug money.
It was like nothing you've ever seen.
I mean, people paid in cash.
Some lawyers had money counting machines.
You had to declare it if it was over $10,000.
But they came in and said, fine.
I'll pay for it.
You don't have to explain where it's going to be from.
But anyway, there was more money.
And in Miami in particular, oh my God.
High-rises, car dealerships, clubs, nightclubs.
I mean, it was everybody's disposal.
And when one person made it, everybody benefited.
When all of a sudden, when you had an apartment building or office, you had cleaning people, then you had caterers, then you had valets, then you had other people, then you had office centers, then real estate, and then everything else.
And then everything, because it was booming, people would move in.
Retail stores and others and this and nightclubs and restaurants and boom and tourism and next thing you know, South Beach.
South Beach was shit years ago.
Miami Beach was like old people went there.
Then all of a sudden it changed.
So you're going to end this?
Come on.
So that's why Pam Bondi's got to sit down and say, Pam, I know you mean well, but be very careful.
If you bust, if you get a couple hundred pounds of fentanyl, okay, we'll let you talk about that.
But no, you're not going to...
Don't tell these people that you're going to, you know, get to the bottom of Epstein because it's not about Epstein.
And I don't even think you understand.
This is beyond organized crime.
There are people who own the world who are not going to let you destroy this.
It's that simple.
It's not personal.
It's not...
It's business.
It is simply business.
It is that simple.
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It's very easy to talk about this sometimes.
It's very easy.
But like I was telling you the other day, when I was hearing somebody on a show talk about the Met Gala, I'm thinking, don't you recognize anything?
No.
Or better.
You do understand the business of the Pope, right?
The number one issue about the Pope is very simple.
It was, was Francis.
The Pope.
What are we...
The last Pope may have been Benedict Ratzinger.
The last Pope.
Francis may be an impeded C. S-E-E, like the Holy See.
The C from like the seat.
They're the Munis versus the...
What is it?
Versus the magisterium or whatever.
There's this distinction between the papacy and the...
Anyway.
I was listening to a show and somebody was saying, well, it's easy, you know, the cardinals are going to get together and they're going to, you know, do their thing.
They're going to meet at seven.
Then they're going to see if they got black smoke and say, schmuck, how many cardinals are there?
They can't have more than 120 to 135.
Do you have a quorum?
How many do you need to have a quorum?
Three?
They have to be real, real popes.
Real cardinals, I should say.
Lori Cuck says, I went on Airbone in Florida.
The driver said they used to find square cod in water.
Interesting.
I don't know what that means, but maybe that's a...
Square cod.
In the water.
Maybe there were perhaps bales.
I don't know.
I'm reading too much in this.
I don't know.
I don't know what that means, but thank you for that.
What if the Catholics, what if, what if all of this was just a waste of time?
What if everything had been done ahead of time?
What if, and this is important, what if there was a, for lack of a better word, just this non-Pope?
How did they pick up?
Do they say, we have a pope, or the pope is dead?
But yet these morons are talking about, well, they're going to meet at 7, 4, until 7.30, then they have lunch, and then they put the white smoke.
No, that's not it.
They have no idea.
They think they can just jump in and talk about the papacy.
Just because they don't know anything.
They're looking at the Met Gala saying, do you understand what's going on?
Do you understand symbology?
They don't know what's going on.
The biggest decoy that we have, the biggest impediment to the truth are the people, the idiots who work in the business, the people who work in news, the people who work on radio, the people who work on TV, the people who don't know any better.
Do you hear what I'm saying?
They don't know anything.
They don't know anything.
It's the most incredible thing in the world.
I heard somebody the other day say something.
They were talking about this woman who was trafficked and she's telling her story.
And this numbnuts comes forward and says, excuse me, where was your mother?
And this woman looks at her like, what?
Where was my mother?
My mother sold me.
And again, you get these people who say, do you not understand what's going on here?
No.
Do you think there's fault involved?
Well, my kids would never do that.
You know, Mrs. Allen and I have to always decompress.
We are surrounded by idiots.
Seriously.
Very good people, but some really stupid people.
I mean, really stupid people.
People who are incurious.
People who don't want to go the extra mile.
People who just...
So interesting.
I was talking last night to Jim Kerr from a...
Went to a SAG meeting.
It was interesting.
Great.
Oh, my God.
He's a legendary New York jock.
Carol Miller.
Overnight's been around forever.
I mean, great, great people who've been from the 80s in music.
And we're talking about, well, where do you think things are going today?
There's Lori Cuck.
Lori says, Eric...
Said a bunch of people know in Rome.
Oh, yes, they do.
In fact, you can look up the impeded, S-E-E, the impeded C, impeded C. Just put it in YouTube.
It's big.
Also, the St. Gallen Mafia.
Look up that.
They know this.
See, everybody knows this.
Everybody knows this.
Everybody.
But before I jump into a subject, Like, right now, last night, the Knicks beat the Celtics.
Okay, I guess that's good.
If I were to go on TV or whatever and talk about it, I would do so much research and I would talk to people.
And I would say, tell me what this means.
I wouldn't necessarily assume that I know what it means because I know what number.
I know this number is higher than this number, so this one won and this is the first of the series.
No.
What is the history behind this?
What does this mean?
I gotta tell you another story.
You're gonna love this.
There was a piece I did the other day.
Not a piece.
Excuse me.
I didn't do a piece at all.
I forwarded it.
Brian says, are you back on the radio this weekend?
Every weekend.
Saturday and Sunday.
Every weekend.
Absolutely.
WABC.
2 to 5 a.m.
I love what people say overnight.
They say, 24 hours a day?
Get my work done during the day?
Look where I'm drying up.
I love your ambulation in Hell's Kitchen.
Thank you, Raul.
I like that ambulation.
Very good.
And perambulation.
And locomotion.
And peregrination.
So anyway, there was this meme or this picture of, they said, this is a man's thinking and it was just a straight, like a railroad.
The other one was, Here is a woman sneaking.
And somebody got offended or something.
I want you to understand something.
And I don't care if you like it.
I don't care if you don't like it.
It doesn't matter to me.
I don't care.
I want you to like it, but if you don't, it's okay.
Women and men are so different.
Years ago, I said women are crazy.
Men are stupid.
And I meant that.
It was almost like impassive.
And I wasn't the only one to say it.
I think this is called parallel development.
Other people said versions of this as well.
And what was interesting about it was that I have seen some of the most circuitous lunacy I have ever seen in my life.
And I want to tell you something else I've noticed.
And this is the most important thing.
This is the most important thing.
And I am seeing this like you cannot believe.
And I'm going to say this.
And if you don't like it, I don't know what to tell you.
When men get older, they get older.
Oh, sometimes they get crazy.
Sometimes they go middle-aged crazy.
Sometimes they go after the secretary.
But for the most part, men get...
Men do not start to believe that they're more handsome than they used to be or that they're sexy.
Look at us.
Look how great I look.
I'm 70 years old and I look great.
I just don't see this.
Maybe occasionally, but not really.
Men do not grab their phones at the age of 68 and say, It's alien.
It's alien.
Again, they might say, hey, look at us.
We're partying, whatever it is.
But I don't mean, no, no, no.
Look at me.
Look at me.
I swear to you, I'm trying to think of a name of it.
Maybe our friends, the Germans, can come up with this.
But it is a form of immaturity.
You know the second childhood?
It's like a second adolescence.
I'm going to tell you something.
I want you to listen to me.
Again, turn off if you don't want to hear this.
If you don't want to hear it, this may offend you.
I'm just warning you now.
It may offend you.
I believe...
You know that movie Mean Girls?
Mean Girls?
Tina Fey?
I think it was one of the most important...
I kind of saw it, maybe, at least in theory.
I didn't really sit through it, but I kind of get the gist of what it is.
I think there were a number of young ladies, I mean this, who were either scarred...
Who lived their life, like you remember Genesee at 17 or something, maybe when they were younger, maybe.
I don't know what it is.
I don't know what it is.
There was a real need to be beautiful or sexy or hot.
I don't know.
Men don't have that.
Men may have other things as well, but not like this.
With the introduction of the cell phone and filters and all kinds of surgeries and There is a second, not a childhood, but a second adolescence that I am seeing.
Cut Up says, did you get your package?
No, I haven't.
No, as you asked last night, Cut Up, we will let you know.
We will get to that package.
We're a little busy, but thank you very much.
I'll let you know immediately, but thank you.
As soon as we get it, I will let you know.
But thank you again.
I cannot thank you enough.
Something happened, and I don't know what it is.
And all of a sudden, I'm seeing this.
There is this chance to not only not relive, but to live a framework, a piece of time that never existed in people's lives.
Raul says, I love your perambulation to Hell's Kitchen.
Well, thank you, sir.
Again, I appreciate that.
With this, I'm seeing an insanity I've never seen before.
It's like 50, 60-year-old, 70-year-old women who are saying, I'm going to live a kind of a, I don't know what it is, a sex of the city, or I'm going to be the, I see it, go to any event, go to a bar, go to a wedding, go to anything involving festivities or dance, I'm telling you, I've never seen anything like it.
And it seemed to potentiate it to unravel and disconnect a part.
I'm not saying everybody, of course, but more than you can imagine.
You either understand what I'm saying or you don't.
I've seen it.
I've absolutely seen it.
I'm also seeing, for example, in the world of YouTube, I see a lot of interesting, a lot of, this might be the greatest PSYOP ever, a lot of Great tales of men in uniform,
serving military, SEALs, this guy Sean Ryan, and I was Delta, I was SEALs, I was SEAL Team 6, and this and that, and a lot of that equating masculinity and maleness, not with patriotism, never patriotism.
It's like, look at me.
I went out with an M4 with this and came out of the thing and I shot in a Kangol Valley and blah, blah, blah.
Because people want to be a man.
Lori Cuck says, I watched rock concerts pre-1995 and cry for what's been destroyed by the cell phone.
Oh yes.
But let me tell you something.
Lori, remember this.
It's not the cell phone.
It's the camera.
Not the cell phone.
The cell phone, when the flip phone came, remember that with the tack line?
It was great.
Hello?
What was it?
No, just a phone.
Cell phone's great.
Smartphone, now we're getting into it.
It's the camera.
It's the camera that does it.
Yeah, I am telling you.
So I'm dealing with a world where I'm trying to explain to somebody something and they're too busy looking at themselves.
Let me ask you a question.
When I was growing up, we had...
If you wanted to see what you look like, we had a bathroom mirror.
Thank you, you're right.
Thank you, Laurie.
We had a bathroom mirror.
People might have had a mirror maybe in the living room or something.
Maybe a decorative thing.
But it was in the bathroom.
It was a bathroom mirror.
Medicine cabinet.
That's it.
Maybe a reflection off of something.
Listen to what I'm saying.
We never had a mirror.
You didn't know what you looked like.
I mean, you know, a little bit.
Not really.
Men and women.
Brian says, when the next foot patrol.
Never know.
Be on the lookout today, Brian.
That's why you gotta make sure you are subscribed to Lionel Nation.
I mean that.
Thank you for that.
Let me go back to what I was saying.
We had no mirrors.
If we took a picture, you know, your mom or somebody had like a brownie or a Polaroid or something.
You took a camera out and it was an event.
Birthday party was something.
I never saw my mom in the bathroom taking a picture of herself in the mirror and then taking the film, going to Eckerd's, you know, dropping it off and picking it up.
Never.
It was unheard of.
Nobody did this.
You just took pictures of yourself?
No.
It was inconceivable.
Why would I do that?
Well, to show how hot I am.
What?
Then there was something called...
Not glamour shots, but they would be in the mall where you would go and you would have this weird look, you know, and oh, look, I got a glamour shot.
That was it!
You maybe had a picture of yourself.
Maybe you had...
We had a book.
Of pictures, like, you know, photographs.
But that was it.
We didn't constantly...
There was a comedian one time who said, here I've got 2,000 pictures of my grandfather.
You know, I said, nobody does that.
That changed.
But from that, Brian says, or take pictures of your feet.
Yeah, that used to be a...
That's the one where you're at the beach.
And you're always shooting...
Men and women do it, but women in particular shooting down their feet.
But the perspective makes their calves look like pachyderms because of the perspective.
Kind of like the Mueller-Lyer illusion or parallax, which is the most stupid thing in the world.
I understand what the beach means.
I understand you've got your shoes off.
I know what that means.
School pictures, LOL.
Yes, school pictures.
We had school pictures which were historically the worst.
We had a guy in our school.
I'm not going to mention his name.
It was a long time ago.
He was Cuban.
It was our friend's father who owned this place.
We would all go for the school pictures.
Or they'd come to you.
They'd set up a room.
We walked in there.
We came after PE.
It was the worst.
It came right up to your face.
No light.
It was horrible.
Just one shot.
The flash was off.
And he said, say wiki.
He meant to say, say whiskey.
So he thought maybe that's kind of like a version of cheese.
Say cheese.
Wiki.
And we'd say, wah?
And click.
All of our class was like this.
We looked like retarded.
Like we don't understand.
Click.
Wiki.
Click.
Horrible.
This is the only year I think my parents said, eh, we're not going to buy these.
I saw dozens of 60-plus women dancing alone in a club.
It's scary.
That's all I want to say.
And it's not dancing because it's like, I have to dance.
They're dancing because they're trying to reconnect with something that I wish...
Granted, there's the exception.
So here I am, pushing my way through, trying to talk to a group of people who take pictures of their feet, or their food, or...
And if you...
Let me tell you something.
Go to Times Square.
Everybody's on their phone.
Well, I'm on my phone, but I'm holding it up taking pictures of people.
I like walking behind people just commenting on stuff.
So we're losing.
So I'm trying to explain to you, no, it's not about...
And if I get anybody's attention regarding Epstein or whatever, at least they're paying attention, but they don't really understand the big story.
They don't understand the whole story.
They understand part of the story.
They understand just the sex part, but they don't understand anything bigger.
Does that make any sense to you?
I hope it does.
I hope it does.
I hope, like, to God, it does.
So WakeUpShatter says, oh, State Fair dress-up photos.
My mom values mine.
Yes!
The State Fair, we would dress up in those, like, Victorian outfits and the like.
Thank you, CutUp.
Raul, Lori, Brian, thank you so much.
Let me see.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Mrs. Stormy Story.
Stacy, excuse me.
My eyes are terrible this morning.
Thank you so much, all of you great, great noble people.
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She's got to tell you, give you a breakdown of the event we had for the Warriors at the cutting room.
It was incredible.
In any event, dear and great and loyal and beautiful and groovy friends, thank you so much.
Have a great and wonderful day.
Thanks for joining me this morning early.
I just figured I'm going to jump on now.
I'm not going to wait till 9. I want to do this now.
I feel like talking now.
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