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Oct. 26, 2024 - Lionel Nation
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Trump Joins Rogan: Today the Election and Media Penetration Change Permanently
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Today's subject is going to be about perception.
And it's going to be about a lot of things other than the usual subjects.
The usual subject matter.
You said this, he said this.
What does it mean?
I've been spending...
Early, early, early, early, early, looking and reading and paying attention and watching and listening to so many things because I have to always step back to get an idea of what's going on.
It's so easy to get stuck in the immediacy of what's going on and miss the whole point.
What does this mean?
What is Trump going to be about?
Where are we now?
Who is the...
Who are the good guys and the bad guys?
And it's all about information.
It's all about perception.
And one of these days is going to be all about raising a new group of citizens and changing the landscape of everything, getting rid of left and right and getting rid of Republicans and Democrats and getting rid of liberal and conservative and not necessarily focusing on so much of Of semiotics and flags and buttons and all of that.
And that's wonderful.
But something else which is more important.
It's this thing called the truth and history and reality.
That's the thing which is the most dangerous.
I dream of a country where people have no idea.
You don't even know what a party is to them.
They go in with issues.
And they actually look and they say, okay, this person has either...
My issue is perfectly aligned, or, or, or, maybe, they're as close to it as you're going to get.
The thing that we are the most troubled by, the thing that we have the least amount of control over, is the knowledge base and the perception and the reality that people believe.
This is it.
People don't know enough.
They get into personalities.
They get into looks.
They get into Fox News versus CNN.
And I understand.
Things kind of settle down.
It's almost like Italian dressing.
Remember that they had that wishbone or whatever it is you would get these.
Remember when you were a kid these little cruets or these little mixing things where you mix the The powder with the oil and the vinegar, and you shook it up, and you had your Italian dressing.
It was like, oh, it's great.
We just made it.
It's fresh.
And then when you waited, the suspension, the emulsion would lose its form, and it would be leveled.
You'd see oil or water or vinegar.
That's what happens.
When you let things settle down, You look at the component parts.
And to me, it's as obvious as you can see.
This is what we're talking about.
It's very, very simple.
It's very, very simple what we need to do.
You don't have to know everything there ever was that ever happened in the world.
But you have to recognize lies, perception, psychology, reality, and what we're talking about.
You will probably have to know less fact than you do psychology, emotions, emotionality.
We're going to be talking about this today.
I am telling you, there is no such thing as, look, you might, if you want to look at this as Trump is good and they're evil, okay.
But if you do, you're missing the point.
Please don't make this about Trump.
Make this about what Trump is saying.
Please don't make it so that when Trump doesn't run next time, there's an ideological void.
Or you don't know what to do.
Or because he doesn't or she doesn't seem to be like Trump does.
Or they're different.
Don't think.
Don't get caught up in the excitement.
There's excitement here.
And think that's why you love politics.
No.
The next person may be kind of dull.
But may actually accomplish more than Trump ever could.
There's a lot about Trump that's great.
A lot of it is not so great.
He brings a lot of fire.
A lot of heat.
Which I think hurt, ultimately.
But that's okay.
I'll take him.
There's no question about this.
And rule number one is we have no choice.
We are beyond any kind of...
You want to talk about it?
It doesn't matter.
We are beyond this.
We are past this.
So, my friends, welcome.
Let me say, first of all, remember that tomorrow night, this is the last day, the last day to get tickets to the cutting room, not day of.
It's tomorrow night.
I can't even begin to tell you how you've never seen a room full of people like this.
You might have been to rallies.
You might have been to some big events.
But you've never been to almost something as intimate as this.
That carries more of a weight.
You're sitting next to people, and it's different.
And it's not me screaming at you or making a joke, hey, that Kamala's so stupid.
Yeah, you know that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But what does it mean?
Where are we going?
Because let me explain something to you.
Let me see if I can explain this.
When you take away all the joking and all the laughing, and I don't think they get it, but let me see if I can explain this to you.
You absolutely...
Absolutely must understand something critical.
This is not a joke to us.
This is not a joke.
This is not just, you know, we hate this when we're laughing.
This is serious.
We are very afraid.
And we may not look like it, but the idea that there exists the possibility that this woman, theoretically, through some fluke, that we don't even want, we won't even go that next step to even imagine it.
It's beyond anything we can take.
We may look calm.
We may be happy.
We may go to rallies.
It may, yay!
But deep down inside, Be not mistaken.
We cannot believe that in our great country it ever could exist where somebody this bad, and I don't mean bad in terms of ideology because we don't even know what her ideology is or what her theology is or whatever, but we cannot believe how somebody this bad could ever have been allowed to Even appear as a possibility.
We thought there would be this level of filtration that would say, no, she is too much of an idiot.
No!
But yes, this is an experiment.
This is a PSYOP.
This is a beta test.
This is deeper than anything else.
This is Chauncey Gardner.
This is a repeated reference of somebody being elected, being considered, who is absolutely, blatantly, obviously unqualified, and therefore should be intellectually disqualified.
But yet, nothing stops.
The system says, no, no, she'll do just fine.
And you see people.
People like Hillary Clinton and other people, get to her in a moment, actually not appalled, not disgusted by what she's seeing.
It blows my mind.
So let me remind you one more time.
One more time.
Please, do me a favor.
Listen carefully to me.
Number one, tomorrow night.
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And there are some things that we just don't want to talk about.
And sometimes we just don't.
And I understand it.
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Well, I should say I never realized it, but I never...
I'm always reminded of what I should say.
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Now, I want to talk about something which is so important.
This is the part which I think makes the most sense.
And I mean this.
Oh, by the way, our dear friend Raul says, will there be a major TDS when Trump and Rogan meet?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Without a doubt.
And what's going to happen also is, which I think is the most important, believe it or not.
This is what people don't really understand.
They don't grasp this.
This is the end of conventional media, and they don't understand this.
This is an existential threat to conventional, traditional media.
They don't see this one at all.
They don't.
I am telling you, They don't see it.
And I will never understand why they don't.
Well, I do understand why.
The reason why is they don't want to do anything, obviously, that would be a harbinger, dare I say, of something that would make them feel, I don't know, not understanding what is happening.
Nobody wants to recognize that their system is over.
Look, There was a time in the old days, pick the, sorry, give an example.
In the old days of professional wrestling, when territories went and lost their way to Vince McMahon, there was a real, real serious lapse from reality.
People said, no, people want territories.
They don't want WWE.
No, no, wrestling has always been regional.
And they did everything in their power to try to convince themselves.
And what they were doing was different.
They really did.
Nobody's ever going to admit, we're done.
We're through.
We're over.
We're finished.
Nobody ever suggested or wanted to say, hey, this goes done.
This goes over.
No.
No.
Let me show you something, which, by the way, is the most important.
I want to show you.
This is the level of desperation.
But I also want you to do two things.
Number one, I want you to watch this.
And I want you to imagine.
I want you to imagine that you are the program director, that you are the media representative of this.
And I want to ask you what you think of people who are watching this.
And tell me why you would want to watch this.
Now, I hate to say this.
I don't want to always...
This is not about looks.
But there is this young lady on CNN, this Caitlin Collins, who whenever I see her, she has one expression.
One.
It is frozen.
It's almost like you think, you know how sometimes when you're doing a Zoom and you think, did this freeze?
It is so uninviting, so unfriendly.
We're not talking about looks or poker truth.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about just this eyebrow and this look of contempt.
Horrible.
So who did they have on with this woman?
A woman who was this relic.
Hillary Clinton, who, honest to God, doesn't understand.
She is a relic.
She's always available.
She's available for comments and the like.
She's there.
Her time has come.
It's over with.
This is a part of the Democratic Party, and they don't have either the guts or the heart to tell her, it's over.
We need new blood.
Where is the new?
Who is new?
AOC, maybe?
They're nowhere to be found.
Where are the younger contingents?
Nowhere to be found.
Where's the squad?
Really nowhere to be found.
They're told to stay away because of Israel, obviously, but they're also there because they don't have a part of this.
The Democratic Party is over.
That's one thing people don't really ever want to acknowledge.
It's the same old people.
This Republican Party, this iteration via Trump, is filled with everything you can imagine from rallies to, I mean, excitement, Rogan, everybody, Theo Vaughn, Patrick Van David, name it.
They've been able to crack through everything.
There is an excitement there.
New people, blacks, whites, young, old, Latinos.
And what does the Democratic Party have?
The same old folks.
This torpor.
Tell me why.
Let's watch this for a moment.
And wait till you hear this classic Hitlerian trope.
Another thing that you'll see next week, Caitlin.
Let me stop right there.
I hate to do this, but I want you to just, while she speaks, this is going to be tough.
But look at Caitlin.
Have you ever?
I'm sorry, but you've got to understand this.
If I'm a programmer, maybe it's the old programmer, where you look at this, you look at everything.
You look at the set, you look at the lights, you look at the distance, you look at the brightness.
This woman looks so angry, uninviting, unfriendly.
People historically in the world of TV have always wanted to enjoy.
Just enjoy.
Feel something.
You can say what you want.
We joke about Ainsley, but people like her.
You always hear this about people on Fox.
We like her.
We like Gut Bucket.
I like Jessie Waters.
Whether you do it or not, it doesn't matter.
But you hear that.
There's something there.
I like judging.
I like it.
They try to connect something with you.
It's old-fashioned.
It's this connectivity.
And it's smart.
No matter what it is.
People liked Rush Limbaugh.
You have to be liked.
And you can't come across mean and authoritative and school marmish as you're shaking your finger.
And you've always got this funja face, this mushroom face.
You've always got this fabissima, this anger.
Always, every single time.
This picture is frozen.
Take this as a thumbnail.
Put it into the next interview.
And the next interview.
They're identical.
And I don't understand this.
I'm sure she's a smart woman.
Why doesn't somebody at CNN say, you can't do this.
You look like you're a funeral director.
You look like it's bad news.
At the end of the day, people don't want to see this.
Have you ever laughed about anything?
Do we know anything about you?
Do you ever have a...
Anything is their own.
Oh, I'd have said enough.
Now listen to this.
Then to the right, you've got this Harriton, this Virago, this Termagant, this Harpy, this Shrew.
Here she goes again.
Never won, burned out, sold out, loser every single time.
And here she is trying to compare the idea that Trump appearing at Madison Square Garden.
Is somehow Hitlerian, that it reminds her and others of Nazi rallies.
Madison Square Garden, home to Pope J.P. Deuce, Pope Frank, Bergoglio, JFK, Sinatra, Democratic National Convention, Republican National Convention, every star you can imagine.
Everybody wants to play the garden.
Everybody, always, Madison Square Garden, WWF, WWE.
Everybody.
Billy Joel, his residency.
Madison Square Garden.
The name of it.
It is a mecca.
Right there, 33rd and 8th.
Boom!
There it is.
The Garden.
The Garden.
You know it.
The Garden.
I used to work at Two Pen Plaza with Rush Limbaugh at WABC on the 17th floor within the Garden.
So every time you went up or came down, any event, to be around Rangers fans, NBA fans, it was immersed.
It was like something you've never seen before.
It's the Mecca.
Ali, Frazier, this is it.
And yes, in 1939, there may have been some boot meeting, but listen to this absolute message of desperation from this oven mitt.
Fashionista.
Is Trump actually reenacting the Madison Square Garden rally in 1939?
I write about this in my book.
Now look at old Caitlin.
1939.
She's trying to convey some type of...
She hasn't watched...
Just as Hillary talks, just...
She doesn't move.
President Franklin Roosevelt was appalled that neo-Nazis, fascists in America were lining up to essentially pledge their support for the kind of government that they were seeing in Germany.
Yes, that's fine.
But that has something to do with him.
Now, here's where she makes...
There were also Klan rallies.
There were also rallies that were cross-burnings across the country.
I believe, who was it?
Truman was a member of the Klan for a while.
Was it Hugo Black, too?
There were other horrible, horrible...
There was the draft...
The bonus riots.
There was also these terrible moments of fighting in the street.
Okay, what does this have to do with Trump?
So, I don't think we can ignore it.
Now, you hear this connection?
Do you hear the joke?
Now, look at it.
The whole time.
Did you catch?
Now, let me show you something right here.
I want you to look at this.
Look at the face the whole time.
Look at her.
Look at Caitlyn's face.
Look, I'm moving.
Look at this.
She doesn't move.
Look at her head.
Look at her head.
She doesn't move.
This is a high speed.
Hang on a minute.
This fascinates me more.
Now, let me just do this again.
Here's Hillary.
You see, she's moving.
She's moving back and forth.
Right here's Hillary.
She's at least kind of a little jawboning a little bit.
Look at this.
Look at this guy.
She doesn't move.
Her head is, it's like frozen.
This is high speed.
That gets me more than anything.
Somebody somewhere said, Just like the Democrats said, let's put this woman on who connects with no one.
I'm going to say, we've got to talk to her.
She's probably a smart woman.
But this is called television.
And we love to be able to connect somehow with you.
Michael Savage, who during his reign was absolutely sometimes...
He's demented in his anger, but people like him because he did furniture and he did dogs.
He did something.
Everybody who has ever been at all popular.
Rachel Maddow, remember when she had a sense of humor years ago?
She was always making cocktails.
There was a joke.
She kind of smiled.
That fascinates me.
That's why CNN, this is the disconnect.
And one of the reasons why is we know better than you.
I don't have to worry about this.
I don't have to worry about this.
I've got people, friends of mine in the radio business who say, but Joe Rogan is not a professional broadcaster.
Yes, he is!
He's more professional than you because he's making more than maybe anybody.
Rush Limbaugh made more money.
So help me God than anybody.
Rogan's going to blow that away.
Blow it away.
And other people do.
Theo Vaughn and other people.
And the reason why is very simple.
It's not just luck.
There's some kind of a connection.
Something.
Something you don't understand.
It's the way dogs like certain people.
It's the way kids like certain people.
It's just there's something there.
And these stupid bastards in this archetypically Hoary and old-fashioned medium, they don't understand it.
They don't see what's going on right here.
Now, CNN, on a different note, and I only bring you this because I think this is interesting.
And remember, there's one thing about it.
I will only tell you things that I find interesting.
Somebody at CNN, and remember, this is MSDNC is gone.
They're just gone.
Nobody.
Joy Reid.
Hal Sharpton.
Come on.
That's...
I'm sorry.
Rachel Maddow just squandered everything.
She got too big for her britches.
She writes these obscure books nobody cares about.
She's there like once a week.
She doesn't care.
She just doesn't care.
She...
She's there by default.
Rachel Maddow is that star that burned out years ago and you think you still see it, but the light hasn't hit you yet.
She's not there anymore.
It's very interesting.
They really need somebody new.
They really need to bring people new.
And that's what we're doing.
We have those folks.
Oh my God.
Now remember one thing too.
Alex Jones is not out yet.
Alex needs to work on a lot of stuff.
He needs to lose a lot of weight for his own health.
He's got to tone it down.
But he is not going anywhere.
Believe me when I tell you that.
That's what I think Elon and others are saying.
Don't worry.
We got you covered.
Don't worry about that.
We'll see about that.
All right.
Now, but CNN's this guy named David Zaslav.
Zaslav is a discovery group or channel, whatever it is, and they're basically, they want to get rid of CNN.
Somebody said, you better start giving people something to look at.
And this fellow is...
I don't want to answer a question.
Now watch this.
This is so interesting.
This is a compilation of their, again, this might be...
Sort of really a waste of time because everybody's watching this.
But I do find the information interesting.
When she doesn't want to answer a question, her habit is to kind of go to word salad city.
And she did that on a couple of answers.
One was on Israel.
Anderson asked a direct question.
Would you be stronger on Israel than Trump?
Now, Axelrod is the grand old man of the Democratic Party.
He is as serious as it gets.
And when he's saying this, that's different than...
I think the guy who's a waste of time is Carville, because Carville is just a joke.
Axelrod is Obama's guy, and he is way up in the party.
And there was a seven-minute answer, but none of it related to the question he was asking.
She doesn't have to be flawless.
This guy's fantastic, this...
I forget his name.
He is...
Excellent.
But she has to give you something.
I mean, she's like a true double threat.
Scott Jennings.
She's terrible on her feet when she gets unexpected questions.
And simultaneously, she can't even answer the expected questions.
It's nothing, nothing, nothing.
You'd think she'd be prepared to do this by now.
You know, what's a mistake you've made?
Nothing.
What's a weakness you have?
Nothing.
What's the first law you want to pass?
Nothing.
What's a policy difference between you and Joe Biden?
Nothing.
Over and over and over.
Empty, empty, empty.
If she were an animal, she'd be a duck-billed platitude.
That is so funny.
Focused a lot more on Donald Trump, I think it's fair to say, than she did on many specifics in terms of what she would do.
This is CNN telling you this.
Let me just remind you.
For it to break that blood-brain barrier, it's serious.
As president, but she did.
And they've also been given the okay to say it.
Had somebody from the shadow government overlord said, anybody who says anything about her and you will never work another day, believe me, this would have changed.
Somebody said, go ahead, you can say this.
Go into some of her plans for small businesses.
Well, I'll just tell you what I'm hearing from people who I have been talking to, and that is that if her goal was To close the deal.
They're not sure she did that.
And, you know, some people have asked, is she being held to a different standard?
Maybe.
But that's maybe the world that she's living in.
And on the question of who she is, people are understanding that a little bit more.
But what she will do, the question about her legislative priorities, name one.
There wasn't one.
I think that the word salad stuff gets on my nerves.
Now, this guy, by the way, he's got, there's more dirt on this guy than you can imagine.
This guy is, so he's just there, he's just here for the beer.
Take what he says, cum grano salas, with a grain of salt.
This guy also was, remember, he was connected with the Kardashians.
I mean, this, Van Jones is, but it's interesting.
He represents, it's not so much what he says, it's the fact that somebody said, go ahead, you can say this.
I think that some of the evasions are not necessary, but when she's talking about trying to get you a house, I believe her.
$25,000 little down payment help is going to raise the price of the house by $25,000.
This is the most stupid thing I've ever heard in my life.
Kamala Harris participated in a one-person debate last night, and she lost.
She was asking direct questions, and she provided very circular answers.
My colleagues Van Jones and David Axelrod and others noted that she provided word salad answers.
I like these ones too.
Don't move your head.
Just smile.
Just smile.
Put this on your reel and hope to God CNN lasts by the end of the year.
Anderson asked her specifically direct questions.
Don't move.
Frozen.
Anderson asked the best question all night.
Why didn't you do this four years ago?
No, that's not the best question.
That's the question everybody's been asking since this thing started, by the way.
But thanks for noticing.
How many of you been doing this?
Ten-minute answer didn't answer the question.
So what she did last night, I don't think helped her cause at all.
And I'm going to say something right now.
Men, let's bring back the tie.
Let's bring back the tie.
When I'm looking at pictures of people and I'm thinking about maybe a knee surgeon or...
Maybe I'm looking at somebody who wrote a book.
There's nothing cool about having the open collar.
That's done.
Okay?
Bring back the tie.
Trust me, this looks sloppy.
I think people are looking for, you know, you heard the one woman, how are you going to make my life better?
That wasn't provided.
Donald Trump, bad, is not going to get you to the White House.
I hate to break it to her.
No, that's true.
That's true.
Now remember, remember, this...
They're saying this.
Not Jesse Waters.
Not Mark Levin.
No.
CNN is saying this.
This is why this is important.
But more importantly to that, they've been told it's okay to say this.
It's alright.
We don't mind, so to speak.
Now there's more of this.
This is also how they let these folks and these questions in.
I'll never know.
Now look at this guy.
She's probably looking at him and she says, wait a minute.
This guy's one of us.
Why is he asking me this?
Why is he asking me this question?
And I'm going to say one more thing.
I know you don't want to wear a tie, but there's something about a t-shirt that's showing that just makes me think like, what is this?
What is this, a bowling alley?
That's a great question, Joe.
Well, I am certainly not perfect.
So let's start there.
See, for the longest time, this is how she got Willie.
This is how she got Montel.
This is how she lured men in.
This is what she's used to.
Flutter your eyes, laugh, smile, giggle.
I'm a sexy girl, right?
Yeah, right?
No, not really.
No, no, I'm a sexy girl.
No, you're not.
Yes, I am.
No, no, no, you're not.
No, you're not.
All her life she's gotten away with it.
She thought that this was just...
And nobody either realized or nobody cared.
And I think that perhaps a weakness, some would say, but I actually think it's a strength, is I really do value having a team of very smart people around me who...
Because I'm not smart.
Because I don't know what I'm doing.
To bring to my decision-making process different perspectives.
What's your weakness?
What's your weakness?
That's the question.
Answer my question.
What's the weakness?
My team will tell you.
I am constantly saying, let's kick the tire on that.
That's because I don't know what I'm doing.
What is your weakness?
Answer the question.
What is your weakness?
Pick the tires on it.
Is there something you can point to in your life, political life or in your life in the last four years that you think is a mistake that you have learned from?
Look at this.
You know, you know, now everybody loves humility, but nobody wants to hear mistakes.
I make mistakes all the time.
No, no, no, no, no.
Like if you ask your orthopedic surgeon, what's the biggest mistake you ever made?
Well, I left a...
Force up in there.
Well, that's not good.
That's not a good mistake.
One of them is being, for example, explaining more to the patient.
Well, that's nice.
Your shortcoming is an aspirational.
When somebody asks you what's your weakness, tell them something that you want to do better.
By weakness, explaining to people better.
Understanding that when a person goes to a doctor, that they're afraid.
Hey, I like this guy.
That's not a weakness.
That's empathy.
He gets it.
He wants to, I like this guy.
He wants to be better at it.
See, that's the way you answer it.
When they say, what's your weakness?
My weakness?
Never thinking I'm doing enough.
Never thinking I'm doing enough.
Trying to be a better person.
Oh my God.
I mean, we live in a world where people say, I'm a sinner.
I'm a sinner.
Be humble.
This is the easiest question in the world.
The easiest.
You answer it by taking what people want to hear and making that your weakness.
But I digress.
I mean, I've made many mistakes.
Name one.
They range from, you know, if you've ever parented a child.
You've never parented.
Your daughter is almost 40 years old who walks around who looks like a hunger camp escapee with bad tats and cataract glasses who's a model.
You've never parented anything.
You've never prosecuted.
You've never parented.
I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
You make lots of mistakes, too.
In my role as vice president, I mean, I've probably...
Worked very hard at making sure that I am well-versed on issues, and I think that is very important.
That was a mistake?
They ask you, what was your mistake?
And you said, I was vice president, I work on the issues.
So you don't even understand the question.
Your mistake is trying to answer this question.
Not to be well-versed on an issue and feel compelled to answer a question.
Like now.
Well, that was a good one.
Did you hear this one?
Listen to this.
Making sure that I am well-versed on issues, and I think that is very important.
It's a mistake not to be well-versed on an issue and feel compelled to answer a question.
You've been in the White House for four years.
You were vice president, not the president.
But why wasn't any of that done over the last four years?
Well, there was a lot that was done, but there's more to do, Anderson.
No, that's not the question.
That's, that's, that's...
And you know what the answer is?
The answer is, Anderson, as you know, I'm the vice president.
And we take a lot of credit for things, but I can't tell the president what to do.
I'm not throwing him under the bus, but very frankly, I'm not the president.
I want to be the president now, so I can do these things.
But I was the vice president.
Secretary of State was there too.
He didn't do anything.
And I'm pointing out things that need to be done.
That haven't been done, but need to be done.
Thank you, Eric.
And you're absolutely right.
You know it.
I know it.
I think most Americans know it.
Price of grocery is still too high.
This is a one, too.
By the way, she says price gouging, price gouging, price gouging.
I think I told you this.
Here in New York, we have a fellow who I hope runs from here.
I hope anybody runs from here.
But he's a fine man.
His name is John Katsimatidis.
He owns it.
A slew of grocery stores.
And he said, very specifically, that the profit margin on most grocers is like 1%.
There's no gouging.
There's no price gouging.
It's inflation.
And she can't answer what inflation is all about.
I may not be quick to have the answer as soon as you ask it about a specific policy issue sometimes because I'm going to want to research it.
I'm going to...
Wait a minute.
You're going to have to research the question?
You're telling me that if I ask you about something you've done for the past four years, you're not going to answer my question because you have to research it?
Research it to find out what you've done?
I want to study it.
You want to study my question?
So if Xi Jinping or Putin, somebody asks you a question, you're going to say, I've got to get back with your wife.
I have to study this.
I don't understand what you're talking about.
I'm kind of a nerd sometimes.
No, you're a dumbass.
There's a difference.
A nerd, a wonk.
Somebody who really immerses themselves into the fine-tuned microstructures.
You know what I mean?
The interstitial goings-on of a process.
See, that's a nerd.
That's a good nerd.
That's a nerd I like.
That's good.
You're a dumbass.
That's a big difference.
I confess.
2022, 2023, there were record border crossings.
Your administration took a number, hundreds of executive actions.
It didn't stem the flow.
Numbers kept going up.
Finally, in 2024, just in June, three weeks before the first presidential debate with Joe Biden, you institute executive actions that had a dramatic impact, really shut down people crossing over.
Why didn't your administration do that in 2022, 2023?
Great.
First of all, you're exactly right, Anderson.
And as of today, we have cut the flow of immigration by over half.
In fact, the numbers I saw most recently, illegal immigration.
But if it was that easy with that executive action, why not do it in 2022, 2023?
Because we were working with Congress and hoping that actually we could have a long-term fix to the problem.
No, you could do it.
You could do it immediately.
And Trump did this.
And the first thing you did, and that guy, that incontinent rube, was basically out or reversing the various processes.
Instead of a short-term fix.
You couldn't have done one and both at the same time?
Well, here's the thing.
Answer.
You have to understand that ultimately this problem is going to be fixed through congressional action.
No, no.
What you're doing is, I'm not doing anything because I'm waiting for this, quote, bipartisan.
No, no, no, no.
She doesn't know what she's doing.
She was never there.
She has no idea what they're talking about.
And she still has not rehearsed the answer yet.
Is a border wall stupid?
Well, let's talk about Donald Trump and that border wall.
That's not the question.
Answer the question.
Look at her laughing.
You notice there's nobody laughing.
It's, you know, when she's in a crowd and she's laughing and you hear a lot of noise, ambient noise, you think, well, maybe they think it's funny.
But when you're in a very serious sound studio or set, there's nobody laughing.
It makes the vacuity and the vapidity of the Kaka Nation seem all the more troublesome.
So remember, Donald Trump said Mexico would pay for it?
Come on, they didn't.
But you're agreeing to a bill that would earmark $650 million to continue building that wall.
I pledge that I'm going to bring forward that bipartisan bill.
There she goes.
See, that's her whole thing.
It's not me.
It's the bipartisan bill.
You know what this bipartisan bill was?
It basically takes everything, all of the standards, all of the entry-level numbers, and keep them exactly as it is, granting more amnesty and putting more, quote, Border officers, not to prevent crossings, but to help in the processing of illegals.
See, this is what she doesn't tell you.
Let's just fix the problem.
To fix the problem, you're doing this compromise bill.
It does call for $650 million that was earmarked under Trump to actually still go to build the wall.
I'm not afraid of good ideas where they occur.
You don't think it's stupid anymore?
I think what he did and how he did it did not make much sense because he actually didn't do much of anything.
I just talked about that wall, right?
We just talked about it.
He didn't actually do much of anything.
But you do want to build some wall.
I want to strengthen our board.
See, she won't do it.
He won.
She answered the question.
She answered the question.
Do you think walls work?
Yes.
The wall around the Vatican, the wall around the White House.
Have you been to the White House?
Right in Lafayette Park.
You ever cross over?
Just walk into and see the areas.
Oh, during COVID, it was amazing.
We had snipers on the roof.
Did you ever see this?
There's a wall there.
There's a wall everywhere.
Now, most people would say, look, I'm voting for her no matter what.
I mean, the Democrats, because I hate Donald Trump.
Now, look at this.
One of the strangest, and this is something that they don't understand and they never did, but for some reason, have you noticed that everybody's looking like Rachel Maddow now?
Mark Cuban's looking like him?
Rosie O'Donnell's gone, but everybody's kind of starting to look like her?
And the first person who was the doppelganger of doppelgangers was this feller.
I don't know what his story is, but I gotta tell you something right off the bat.
And I'm sorry to say this, And God forgive me for this.
Number one, the guy on the left, okay, he's been there forever.
Smart guy.
But, okay.
On the right, again, open shirt, no tie.
I'm that casual.
This is the campaign person of sorts for Kemala.
This is the person who is trying somehow to figure a way to convey the message.
President Trump is going to be on a show today and is going to break the record for the largest podcast audience ever.
Understand this.
Rogan is thrilled to death.
The Spotify people are thrilled to death.
Dana White, Elon, who always, we always told you this.
Remember, we all knew this.
It was going to happen.
And Trump is going to sit there and it's going to be this love fest.
And Joe Rogan has met him.
And Joe Rogan has been told, in no uncertain terms, by Elon and by Dana White, don't even think about doing something negative.
Don't even think about this.
Don't think that I've got to be a tough guy.
No, no, no, no, no.
Remember this.
This is from Dana White, and this is from Elon.
They're going to tell him, don't do this.
Don't wait.
Don't, don't.
I've got this gotcha moment.
Okay?
It's not going to happen.
But listen to this question.
Whether Kamala would be on the biggest podcast, and by the way, he would have, I think, done it, because she would have destroyed herself.
Vice President, that was turned down.
Is it something you would you would consider doing, given the size of that audience and given that a lot of the folks that Trump seems to be targeting might be listening to that?
Well, yeah, I think that the vice president's happy to go anywhere and any place to talk to a broad segment of the country.
We talked with Rogan and his team about the podcast.
Unfortunately, it isn't going to work out right now because of the scheduling of this this period of the campaign.
Now, first of all, this is complete and utter horseshit.
Everything.
She has suspended everything.
She doesn't do anything.
What do you mean scheduling?
There is no scheduling.
She doesn't want to do it because she can't escape.
There's nothing to interrupt.
At least with Anderson, she can move over here.
Somebody asks a question, something.
Maybe in a rally, you can clap and you can make noise.
Here it's in a room.
You're just going to be sitting there.
And if she does that laughing with nobody there, as I pointed out, it's even more frightening.
So just listen to this.
It's never going to happen.
Mark M says, why am I uncomfortable with Cooper not softballing here?
He should be asking about ice cream at this stage.
What are they up to?
You're suspicious.
Suspicious?
Well, you're suspicious.
You should be suspicious if you were on her team.
And you're wondering, why aren't they helping me with this?
Now look, let me see if I can explain this again.
I don't know where you get your information from, and I don't know what you think is important, and I don't think, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
There are people who are walking around who absolutely, positively, Have no earthly idea of what's happening in the world.
They fancy themselves politically astute.
They fancy themselves Republicans.
And they fancy themselves Trump persons.
But they don't know anything.
They know Trump is great.
They like Trump.
But they have no earthly idea.
Let me give you an idea of something.
Number one.
This week with bricks in Kazan is so huge, I'm just watching.
There's your YouTube and then there's my YouTube.
And what I watch and what a lot of other people watch, I think.
And from my version of it, I am overwhelmed with what's happening.
It is the most incredible thing I've ever seen in my life.
And yet people don't know about this.
I was watching before something which is very, very interesting.
And this was a case, and I watched this, and many, many people were, and I guarantee you, you're not paying any attention.
Not you, I shouldn't say that.
But there was a journalist by the name of Jeremy Lofredo.
And he works for the Gray Zone.
And this is Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate and others.
He's an American citizen who was captured, held, not hostage, but in prison, jailed, detained by Israeli forces.
And he was facing A life, I don't know if they call him a felony, but a charge, in essence, that could have landed him in prison for life by reporting on what's happening in Gaza or the West Bank.
He was held in solitary confinement.
He was given like two cups of water, a little container of chocolate pudding.
He had somebody from...
This is his words.
I was watching this today and I can't believe what I'm saying.
The embassy sent over somebody to deal with him and it was a woman who had an accent who said, why don't you love Israel?
This is an American citizen.
This is an American citizen merely reporting with others what's going on here.
Journalism, as we know it, is under attack.
And I'm being lectured by Hillary Clinton about Trump being Nazi-esque.
If it wasn't for Elon Musk and the Twitter files, we would have never known.
First Amendment guarantees are under attack.
Now, I understand there's no First Amendment in Israel, but people are becoming acclimated to this.
This behavior, this is the way you treat an American citizen after what this country does?
For you?
Handing you a blank check?
Making sure everything that Congress does is acceptable to you?
This is the way you treat an American citizen who is just reporting what you're doing along with the world and you're going to treat him?
They knew exactly who he was.
Not a word.
But I'm going to hear that somehow Trump is mimicking Hitler?
Who is it that wants to take away guns?
Who is it that wants to tell people they have no right whatsoever to their bodies?
Who are the people who want to declare biomedical martial law against individuals?
Who?
Do you know all?
Let me ask you something.
Let me ask you something.
Do you understand this?
Do you understand the number of people that I know?
I can't believe it.
Maybe I'm just paying attention.
Who are coming down with blood cancers, people dying, brain...
It must be a bad luck of the draw.
Have you heard about this?
Is anybody talking about this?
Is the medical profession talking about this?
No.
Worthless.
And you, I mean, so what I want to do is I want to take everybody, I want to take them to a, like a facility, maybe in the mountains, over in the summertime.
And maybe we'll start with kids and we're going to say, I want to erase your brain from everything you've ever thought about what's right and what's wrong.
Because you have been Acclimated, habituated to stuff I can't believe.
Jeremy Lafredo is an American citizen.
Julian Assange was a reporter, a journalist.
And Mike Pompeo, that rat bastard that I hope gets nowhere near the White House.
These people wanted him executed.
You want to talk about Nazi Germany?
Look what you're doing.
And you're, because you know that, well, that's different.
You're always told to condition, well, you know, that's not genocide.
That's not a party.
No, that's just, look, you got to do what you, let me explain something to you, my friends.
We need to start off, and in my ideal world, in my ideal world, of kids coming in, and assuming they're young enough.
And I want, first of all, for you to learn critical thinking.
And number one, my friends, I'm not going to mention a party or anything.
I'm never going to mention a party.
I'm never going to mention it.
Never.
This is my dream world.
This is where parents send their kids.
Parents can come.
We can sit around.
And the first thing we do is we learn critical thinking.
And the issue is, what's the issue?
And remember this thing called IRAC.
I-R-A-C.
It's an old law school.
Issue, rule, analysis, conclusion.
What's the issue here?
What is it?
What does it mean to be a journalism?
Do you think these people are helpful or are they a pain in the ass?
Do you believe in the First Amendment and the spirit of the First Amendment?
Do you believe this?
Do you believe that people have the right?
Do you think they have the right to report if it's true?
Now assuming something, let's not national security and I don't think you should be able to print the names of, let's say, confidential informants working with the FBI who are trying to expose the mafia.
People could be killed.
I mean, there's always a limit.
You've got to pump the brakes sometimes.
But the issue is, what does it matter?
What does it matter?
Does it matter to you?
Does the truth matter to you?
What's the issue?
I'm not even telling you who's left or who's right.
What do you not want to know?
What do you not want to know?
You know what's funny?
I always talk sometimes to friends.
I have so many friends who are doctors.
People I grew up with.
And they say, boy, you know what?
I hate that WebMD.
I say, I disagree with you.
That's your job.
You hate when somebody comes in and asks you a question.
Whereas before, somebody would say, well, I don't know what that is.
Well, what are telomeres?
I don't know what that means.
I read this story.
You've got to explain this.
So I love more.
I'd rather somebody know a little bit about something.
There are many of you who know the word HAARP.
H-A-A-R-P.
High auroral.
It's weather modification.
I never can remember the acronym HAARP.
But you know this.
And you always have been fascinated by it.
And you are the...
0.0001% of the population that knows about this.
Think how smart you are in that you know something like that.
So the issue is, what should you not know?
Should you not know about government programs that have been shut down to modify the weather?
Should you not know about declassified CIA programs like somebody mentioned MKUltra or Operation Ajax?
Should you not know about?
Attempts to modify the weather with Project Cirrus and Project Storm Fury and solar radiation.
Should you not know this?
Should you not know about these things?
Should you not know about these things?
History would be a wonderful thing if only it were true.
I was listening to a wonderful lecture.
One of the biggest con jobs ever is what a great guy Winston Churchill was.
You hear this all the time.
You just nod your head.
It's the most incredible thing I've ever seen in my life.
You just nod your head because you've been told he's a good guy.
He's a good guy.
Really?
What do you know about him?
I don't know.
They just told me he's a good guy.
Really?
Perfide Albion?
What does that mean?
I'll tell you.
This election is not about Trump and MAGA.
There is no choice.
We have this guy.
I'm going to put a tourniquet on him.
Let's hope to God he makes it.
We'll hope maybe there's a helicopter.
We've got to do something.
He's going to die.
This isn't real nice.
I'm sure it's not precise.
It might be sloppy.
But if we don't do this, he's going to die.
If Gamala gets anywhere near this, we're going to die.
It's not because of her, but it's the infection that she brings.
She's not going to do anything.
That's the problem.
She has no idea.
She's basically telling her, I'm going to kick the tires.
They're going to hand her a pen.
They're going to say, you signed this.
And they can do, if it's one day, if I told you something, tell me, let me just give you an example of something.
What if I told you one day you're going to be hearing, Genetic alteration and intrauterine surgery to fix genders before birth.
You think that's impossible?
What if I told you one day children will be aborted after they are born?
Technically murder.
Is that impossible?
Is that impossible?
Tell me.
Oh, that'll never happen.
Tell me.
That'll never happen.
Tell me.
We have euthanasia pods.
It happens all the time.
We're doing this.
We had a friend of ours one day.
We said, hey, I wonder where so-and-so is.
I read the paper.
Guess what?
She went to Sweden or something and committed suicide.
Or was off there.
Whatever.
She was also mentally ill at the time.
It was wonderful.
Okay, I understand the idea of the autonomy of somebody over their life.
Do you understand what's happening here?
Do you know what's happening here?
Do you know what BRICS is?
And I know there's people who say, have you heard, listen to this, a friend of ours who, Chinese, Chinese, from China, Chinese, Chinese, not answer, but Chinese.
You know what her friends are saying about war, nuclear war and North Korea?
Have you heard that?
Heard about North Korea having, they're in Russia, they're doing some joint maneuver?
Are we going to be seeing a nuclear weapon?
A tactical nuclear weapon?
Absolutely.
Where is it going to be?
Middle East.
Guaranteed.
It's going to hit the fan like you...
Do you know who the Houthis are?
Do you know what they want?
I was watching a video of Max Blumenthal.
Again, if this were any other country, this is the...
Wait, whether you like him or not, I don't know.
They probably hate him.
I'm sure AIPAC hates him, but he was interviewing...
A Hamas leader.
Oh my God.
Because you have been told that Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, these are Iran.
They're just evil.
They're evil people.
Evil empire.
Evil.
Like you were told about Russia.
Evil.
They're all evil.
They're evil.
Every one of them.
They're born into this wasps, hornet's nest of evil.
You're told that.
And whatever anybody does to them, you just nod your head.
And they tell you, listen, don't worry, you're going to see some terrible pictures of kids, and it might be an apartment complex, it might be a whole, it might, you're going to see picture after kid, picture of dead, limp, kind of ragdoll kids covered in pyroclastic dust and blood, and their parents are going to be crying, and they're going to stack these kids, one on top of another, inside them.
But listen, it's, don't feel bad about that, it's their fault.
All they have to do is, and then you go through a living.
Give up with the hostages, denounce Hamas, something like that.
You'll be told, and you'll say, okay, and you'll move on.
That's it.
And people always ask, how did Germany, how did these people, the land, and I know sometimes it's Austrian, but how did the land, the part of the world that gave us Goethe and Freud and all these incredible Mozart, how did this...
Extremely cultured group of people give us this horrible, horrible...
They look the other way.
What was that again?
How did these people...
How did they look the other way?
How?
What about Vietnam?
Bruh, have a great show tomorrow, literally.
Thank you, Andy.
I appreciate that, bruh, literally.
This is the part, and it tells you in the first day of our class, we're going to show the Milgram experiment, one of the most important things in 1960, where people were told to give and administer electric shocks to complete strangers.
Of course, it wasn't true.
They thought they were, but that was a part of the experiment.
If they were ordered to do so, please continue.
Stop it!
It hurts!
Please continue.
People were not answering.
Please look it up.
I'm not going to explain the whole thing to you.
People were not answering, meaning they were unconscious.
And these little old ladies were coming in and zapping people.
The Stanford Prison Experiment, the Zimbardo, whatever, he just died 10 years later.
Humans are capable of doing the most brutal thing in the world.
You've got to understand how weird we are.
There are these shows.
There are these shows.
Sean, Ryan, Navy SEALs, Delta this, Delta.
This is the biggest absolute PSYOP ever.
This is Intel and military glorifying and making cool the military, wonderful people, And kill people they are told to kill.
And it's cool again.
Wow, this guy with the beard and the cats.
Ooh, this is great.
And Intel, CIA, DIA, whatever you want to call it, the Pentagon, they're saying, they're falling for it again.
These people who, they actually talk about MKUltra and mind control, and they're doing this.
They're actually doing this.
What do you think Marvel is?
What do you think all of these movies that tell kids about transhumanism?
I'm an Iron Man.
Donnie Jr., what is he, Iron Man?
Or whatever the hell he is.
Anyway, transhumanism.
I'm not.
I mean, when you leave my proposed little summer thing in the woods or the mountains, your life?
We'll change.
You will see colors and things and you'll say, I know what that is.
I know what that is.
No mention of left.
No mention of right.
No mention of Democrats, Republicans, and nothing.
You will hear all about how truth is subverted.
How people's intentions...
I've said enough.
I've said enough.
We are going to win, thank God, But we have so far to go, it's not even funny.
But it's a step, so I'm happy about that.
My friends, oh, one more thing.
There's Leslie Watson.
Thank you, Leslie.
Remember, tomorrow, Cunning Room, tickets are available.
Last day, day of show, they go up.
You know how that works.
You have the information available.
I have it here for you.
I have it available for you.
This is it.
Right here.
It's going to be something.
Please, cameras, meet, greet.
There's the link.
Meet and greet and chat and talk and enjoy yourselves.
This will be 10 days really before the election.
The election that is going to change your life.
It's the most important election ever.
And today.
Make sure you add it.
I don't even know what time.
I was listening to Rogan after the fact.
Donald Trump is going to appear.
And this is the day that conventional, statist, usual heritage media died.
Because they just never bothered to keep up with it.
They just thought they'd always be in power.
They'd always be, hey, we're, come on.
We're, you know, we're Rush Limbaugh, and God bless Rush.
It's over.
It's just a different world.
Different world.
All right, dear friends, also, please follow Mrs. L. Yesterday was one of the most important days regarding the Menendez brothers.
I went on a great show, Sean Atwood.
I've got a link of where it is.
I was on with a guy who was a wonderful man who was gassed out of his mind.
It was kind of funny, but also kind of sore.
A little sad.
A little sad to see this person absolutely loud.
Waxed.
Gooned.
I think his name is Matthew Steeble.
A fine, fine man.
I'm not really familiar with his work, but here is the link.
Watch this video.
Watch it.
I'll put the link right there.
It's about the Menendez brothers.
Why is that important?
George Gascon.
You know who that bastard is?
This is a guy who was one of the Soros prosecutors.
He beat a Mr. Recall and that Shia Boudin or Boudin, whatever his name is, Larry Krasner in Philly, Kim Fox.
These are all Soros appointees.
All of them.
And this rat bastard.
All of a sudden, because he's 30 points behind, says, hey, I'm going to now all of a sudden decide to resentence or to ask the judge to resentence the Menendez brothers as regular murder, not murder without the possibility of parole, but to resentence them.
And, this is important, and what I want you to do...
I want you to understand that since they committed this offense under the age of 26, they're entitled to parole.
So we're going to ask the judge to re-sentence him.
We're not ordered the judge.
And then have the parole people come in because this ball-less wimp doesn't have the guts to say, I'm doing it.
I'm going to reopen the case, arrest a judge, and we're going to drop it.
Credit for time served.
That's it.
No probation, no nothing.
Maybe a little halfway house to make sure they're not skitzed out of their mind having been incarcerated.
Sometimes halfway houses actually benefit the releasee because you don't want to just dump them into the real world.
But that's what he wants to do.
He didn't do that.
And also that other rat bastard.
Gavin Newsom, he could have commuted the sentence the whole time.
He didn't do it, and this guy doesn't do it, and everybody's clapping.
Clapping for what?
But here's the best thing.
Those two kids killed their parents, blew their heads off with a shotgun, ran out of shells, went out to the car to finish off mom.
And they're a bunch of punks, and they were spending money like mad, but they were abused.
And they were abused over a period of time.
And in 1989, nobody wanted to hear it.
Their first case was a trial, was a mistrial, because they let in evidence of how, remember Leslie Abramson, the woman with the kinky hair, kind of had that Karine Jean-Pierre, that look.
Anyway, they were, it was a hung jury.
When they retried him, the judge says, you're not going to bring that evidence in.
This time they were convicted.
It's a huge case.
Watch Mrs. L's take on it.
Lens Warriors.
Go now and watch her video.
Watch.
Watch.
It's important.
Very, very critical.
Watch this.
It's an incredible call.
It's important.
It's an issue.
Because they're not guilty.
And it's not manslaughter.
It was deliberate first-degree murder.
I'm planning to do it.
But why did I plan to do it?
Diminished capacity, whatever it is.
Critical issues.
Of course, nobody's talking about that today.
Because the issue today is going to be Rogan and Trump.
Watch what happens.
Alright, your friends, we love you.
By the way, Kitty says they're psychopaths.
No, they're not.
That word is a word that is used far too much.
Clinically, no.
They're not psychopaths.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely 100% not.
100%.
If I did that to you, And I absolutely destroyed your sense of self by repeated sexual abuse when you were a kid by your father.
And one day you just said, I've had enough of this.
You're not a psychopath.
You're a victim.
Brad Rung says, how can I give 10 seats to your event?
I see it holds about 250 seats.
Looks like fun.
I am in Philly, but last time I was in New York City was at the Broadway to see Dave Attell about 10 years ago.
Love you.
I don't know how to gift 10 seats.
You can buy 10 tickets.
Yeah, buy 10 tickets and then let us know.
Yeah, buy 10 tickets and then Mrs. L, she's in charge of the tickets.
She'll do that for you.
That would be beauteous.
Go online, buy the 10 tickets and then Mrs. L will distribute them and they'll be courtesy of you.
And you can just email me, lionel at lionelmedia.com and we'll take care of it.
That's beauteous.
Thank you for that.
Alright, my friends.
That's it.
Thank you for your support.
Thank you for what's going on.
By the way, I'm giving you a little insight into this.
Last time I did a song that brought the house down.
I didn't think it was that good, but it did.
And let me give you a little hint.
And it's kind of moot.
But the song was, Biden's gotta go, Biden's gotta go, Biden's gotta go, Biden's gotta go.
Don't be slow.
Biden's gotta go, and the car was, Biden's gotta go.
It was like people hummed it forever.
Okay.
The new one that has to be worked out, which is very difficult, not really, is a version of my song.
Volare, my mother always told me, Domenico Meunio was on Ed Sullivan, and her water broke as they were watching Volare.
That's when I hit it.
That's when I said, that's it, I'm coming out.
So that's always been considered my song.
Well, this one's called Kemala.
Oh, no.
Kemala.
Oh, no, no, no.
You got it?
And when the group sings, remember who was a Mac David said, God likes you when you pray, but loves you when you sing.
It's going to be one for the good.
Anyway, that's tomorrow night.
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