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Feb. 9, 2023 - Lionel Nation
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Live Immersion: Tradition Defined — @LionelNation

Tradition vs. habit.

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1, 2, 3. Tradition.
Respect.
Formality.
Pomp.
Circumstance.
Elegance.
Tradition.
Formality.
There will come a day before you realize it, before you know it, all of these terms will mean absolutely nothing.
And they may in fact mean nothing now.
When you do something and you assign to it a particular role, behavior, you ensure the perpetuation of the act, of the symbolism.
You respect Or you show respect, but you ensure the solemnity.
I'm using words right now that you will never, ever, ever hear, for the most part, on anything even remotely passing as current or contemporary opinion platforms.
I do not believe in formality just for the sake of formality.
I don't believe you should do something just because that's the way we always did it.
No, no, no.
Certain things you change.
I just provided one of the best reviews of the State of the Union Address.
I only say to you, and I mean this, and I don't mean this in any way disrespectfully, But I believe that for 99% of the folks who are engaged in this, at this particular level, it will mean nothing to you.
It will just mean absolutely nothing to you.
I'm sorry to say that.
I'm not saying that.
Here's the link, by the way.
Should you, for whatever reason, want to do this, because I am from a different planet.
I am from a different world.
I'm from a different place.
I'm from a different world.
And I do things, not just to do things because we've always said it that way.
In fact, I've always said, no, no, no, we have to break from this.
We have to break from this.
I cannot tell you how important, if anybody looked at the beauty, the history, I love the history of something.
The history tells you, what does this mean?
You don't understand what current is unless you understand the history.
I was explaining to a young person the other day the notion of the carburetor in a classic car.
Remember in the morning when Robert Klein has his routine where when you start the car and somebody will say, watch out, you'll flood it.
That was a big deal.
You'll flood it.
I said something and I said, you don't understand fuel injection if you don't understand the carburetor or how this thing works and how...
How many watching now have not lifted the hood of their car ever?
Because you're told.
There's nothing to check.
You're told.
Most people, they don't check anything.
They've never lifted the hood, the bonnet of their car.
Never.
It's never happened.
And the reason why, yes, indeed, Liz, you must like this.
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But I understand, because I am not a dinosaur.
I'm from a different dimension.
And I recognize this fact.
And I don't see things the way people do.
I understand this.
I understand it.
And I accept it.
And I don't...
A lot of people dig what I'm saying, but I don't fit into what's going on.
Let me explain something.
So you don't understand...
If you don't lift the hood, you don't understand where cars have progressed and you don't understand what's happening now unless you know the past.
The State of the Union, under Article 2, says, from time to time, that's all.
It's very interesting.
The State of the Union, Article 2, remember, Article 1 is legislature.
Legislation, legislative, the House, Senate, Article 1. Article 2 is the executive, the president, and Article 3 of the courts.
Simple.
Article 2 has its provision that says, from time to time, How many did they say in the first?
They're very specific, you know.
You've got to be 35 years old.
From time to time.
From time to time.
Let people know how you're doing.
From time to time.
Isn't that wonderful?
George Washington sent a speech.
Very short.
And they broke it down into paragraphs, and they kind of looked at it, and I was like, okay.
Thomas Jefferson, never, never, ever, ever, he spoke twice in public, twice, at inaugurals.
That's it!
He hated speaking.
He says, what am I doing?
What am I speaking?
This is so British.
This is so parliamentary.
We don't do this.
What am I doing?
Why am I doing this?
I don't understand it.
I don't grasp it.
I don't get it.
I don't understand it.
It's a beautiful idea.
It's a wonderful concept.
Truly.
I didn't know that, did you?
Hated it!
Hated it!
The State of the Union was like, eh!
William Henry Harrison, James Garfield, never gave theirs.
William Henry Harrison, as you know, very famously never.
He lived for 30 days or whatever it was because he supposedly, or supposedly as people mispronounce the term, he supposedly spoke in this dreary weather without a coat and died.
Being cold will not kill you, will not give you a cold.
Cold is an expression.
Being cold will not give you the cold.
It will not give you a cold.
It just won't.
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There are other reasons why you might get sick, but it's not because of being cold.
But anyway, that's the story.
Garfield, as you know, was assassinated because the State of the Union was at the end of the year then.
Then there were some amendments made and now it's January or February.
It's not necessary as long as the president from time to time.
That's all.
In 1913, Woodrow Wilson, quite the scholar whose dissertation, his PhD dissertation, was on governmental procedures and the like, brought it to a new level.
Later on, Calvin Coolidge, I believe, was the first president to appear on radio.
FDR was way ahead of us.
By the way, remember, remember, You might laugh at social media.
People may say, this is demeaning.
They did not understand why is the president demeaning himself by going on radio, fireside chats.
Brilliant.
Brilliant.
That was the social media of his time.
I remember Grover Cleveland, he basically announced, he didn't really vet it with his folks, He's talking about tariffs, and people say, tariffs?
That means loss of jobs, and they bounce up.
Remember, Grover Cleveland, the only president ever to serve two non-consecutive terms.
The only heretofore.
Fascinating.
Here's one for you.
This is how things have changed.
The year was 2009.
2009.
And there was a fellow by the name of Joe Wilson.
And during President Obama's speech, he said, he declared, President Obama said, that illegal immigrants would not be covered under a health insurance reform program proposed by the Democrats.
And Representative Joe Wilson, Yelled out, you lie!
One time.
That was it.
He said, you lie!
And the House voted a 240 to 179 vote.
It was a resolution of disapproval, a mild rebuke, a censure.
They voted against it.
How dare you?
You yelled?
This was 2009.
He would say, you yelled?
I'm sorry.
Oh, how things have changed.
Are we better off now?
No.
Remember when Justice Alito indicated some type of disagreement?
I forget who he was speaking.
He kind of shook his head and said, no, no, no.
That was it.
All he did was he shook his head.
It went crazy.
He shook his head.
Oh my God, he shook his head.
Did you see that?
He shook his head.
What is he, disagreeing?
What is the matter with you?
Now shaking your head is nothing.
Nothing.
Look at us now.
Look at us now.
What's it going to look like in ten years?
There are many reasons for this.
I go into it in great detail when I think of this and how I want to discuss with you the notion, the idea of this thing called respect.
Tradition.
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Now, there always is this fight that I have with people about tradition.
There is a reason why the military believes in tradition.
There is a reason why we have a uniform.
There is a reason why we have rank.
There is a reason why there is a changing of the guard.
There is a reason why we sing happy birthday.
There is a reason for things.
And it's not a needless formality.
And if there's one thing that I promise you, I just saw recently, which reminded me, the one thing, the one area that will never, ever, ever go out of style, go out of business, it may change in some respects, and that is weddings and the wedding dress, and we'll be here Forever.
There are some things, and I must tell you, I think things are good.
I believe that there are places where there should be respect.
I'm wacky about this.
churches, temples, mosques, funerals, weddings, you know, Weddings?
Courtrooms?
Try yelling in court.
Good luck.
There are some places, and one also should be Congress, the Supreme Court, the White House, the Capitol.
I believe in this.
protest is one thing public you know Public proclamations of disfavor are not only one thing, they're guaranteed.
But there's something about respect.
There's something about respect and also when people go out of their way to try to gain prominence on social media platforms.
That's one thing too.
Now we've always had versions in the past of this.
Always.
When Hearst, newspapers, and by the way, the level of activity that we see in Congress right now compared to the old days of people fighting and dueling.
I mean, Andrew Jackson, I don't know how many people he killed.
Aaron Burr and dueling.
What is this?
So, we've gotten better.
But do you know what happens?
Do you know what happens?
It all changed in a bigly way.
When we had dressed down Fridays.
When people said on Fridays don't worry about a suit.
When all of a sudden doctors, professors, tech people on their firm when they have their firm pictures no tie.
When we lost the tie What was that?
It signaled.
It wasn't the event.
It marked the event.
There's something about procedure.
There is something about...
When I see folks go to palaces in England, you know, and whatever it is, And they mock or chide or they bother or they...
They hurt or harm or...
I think it showed this respect to soldiers.
There was one recently, I think, where they grabbed the horse or the changing of the guard and people...
There's something about this.
That is so symbolic.
And I realize I don't fit in.
I don't fit into this world.
I don't fit in.
And what I'm saying is, it's not that these are critical.
It's not that we must have these things.
I'm not saying that.
What I'm saying, believe it or not, what I'm saying and what I'm trying to say is something a little bit different.
I'm trying to say that we That you lose something.
You lose something.
And I realize I'm wasting my time.
Because I kind of sort of live in a world where I don't...
I happen to be listening today to a very, very famous podcaster type.
And...
It was...
I'm thinking, did he invent this, dare I say, scabrous, coprolalic, not concupisant, anyway, but this vulgar, really.
To the point where we're saying, why are you doing this?
Why do you think this is necessary?
Why are you overwhelming me with this?
Did you just discuss...
Did you just learn this word?
Is this what you do now?
Does this convey...
Would you want your children to talk?
By the way...
Language involves just a variety of words.
A variety of words.
Some of them are inappropriate for certain things.
Some things you wouldn't say in a courtroom.
Some things you wouldn't say to your grandmother.
But they're valid.
But when you do something in order to try to convey to people, not that I'm using this particular word because of...
I needed to convey an idea, but I want to make sure you understand I'm okay.
I'm part of this team because we all use this word, every other word.
It's to the point now where it's almost a tick.
It's not, it's coprolalia.
It's, I can't believe it.
Did you just invent this?
I'm from the Jeff and Deffen, I'm from the world, I'm from the world of Lenny Bruce.
When Lenny was just at the end of this, when Richard Pryor came along, and Carlin, and the idea of we blended and kind of moved into the world of the Scabrous, and went X-rated, and went Playboy, and I've been through this, and I've seen that.
So, I mean, it's an interesting transition.
I always thought it was very good for societies to evolve.
But then there was always somebody who missed the point completely.
Somebody who missed the point.
Years ago, you may not think this, but I've told you this before.
There was a time when Chinese food, I remember as a kid, when Chinese restaurants were brand new.
We just never had them.
And they were so, wow, chow mein, oh my god.
Chop, suey, what is this?
Or whatever.
And sometimes there were people who came along and they said, we can do this.
So they would have Asian or Chinese, I guess, folks.
And the food wasn't that great.
But they had all the trappings.
They had the lanterns and they had the motif and they had this and they had the clothing.
But the food was terrible.
And somebody said, no, that's not it.
That's not the trapping.
It's the food.
The food's got to be good too.
The same thing with somebody who's being authentic.
When you're protesting something, when you're doing something, a protest, when you're breaking this, when Rosa Parks refused to move, there are these moments when Gandhi provided or protested with nonviolence.
You do it not merely to do something, to say, hey, look at me, I'm doing this.
Because today, remember, everybody's trying their best to get, and I always point to my mouse, we're always trying to get Meme coverage.
We're trying to get virality.
We're trying to be viral.
That's it.
We're losing the message here.
And I know I'm wasting my time.
I'm wasting my time.
I have no problem with anybody virtually doing anything, saying anything, doing anything.
You have no idea if there's a reason for this.
And I love a...
Have you noticed the spate of comedians?
Have you ever heard a comedian explain comedy?
It's a fate worse than death.
It's just horrid.
And there are these moments.
I look and I look at pictures of John Kennedy when John Kennedy spoke.
Do you remember?
Did you ever see watch the Kennedy funeral?
The riderless horse, that one horse was called Jack.
The thing was all wired up.
The empty boot and the symbolism to see world leaders.
Oh my God.
Have you ever been to Washington when you...
It's lost its reverence for me.
Philadelphia hasn't, by the way.
Constitution Hall hasn't at all.
That still, you know, the liberty battle and everything, that will never, ever lose it.
But I can't say Washington.
I can't say I feel it anymore.
I can't say I...
And I want that again.
I want that feeling.
I want that.
I want to see the procession of government.
I want it to be...
I want people, when they walk into the Capitol...
It's reverence.
It's in being in church.
It's serious.
That's what I want.
If people are going to protest, seeing huge swaths of people just sitting there making not a peep would be one of the most effective things anybody has ever seen.
To sit there, not on a phone, not on a...
Just looking.
Sitting on your hands.
Not saying a word.
Nothing.
No clapping.
No approbation.
And when it's done, leave.
You would have no idea.
The silence would be deafening.
But today, we live in a world where it's a different story.
And that's not seen.
That's not understood.
Let me ask you something.
Show of hands.
Is...
Our collective human experience losing the notion of respect.
Yes or no?
If you believe yes, press one.
If you say no, press two.
If you think it's unnecessary, press two.
If you think, you know, this respect thing, you know, that's okay.
And we wore hoop skirts then and button shoes and, you know, buckles on our shoes and we did the minuet and yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that was a different time.
It was a stodgier time, and it's unnecessary.
If you don't think it, then press two.
But if you think, no, we do lose this thing called one.
We are becoming too ceremonially contumacious.
We are deliberately going out of our way to destroy this notion of decorum.
I don't understand.
I can't...
When I talk about respect, etiquette, manners, manners, they look at me like, what are you saying?
Don't you want to know how to do this?
Don't you want to know?
Wouldn't you want to know this?
Wouldn't you love to know that you are exuding, you are exhibiting manners?
Wouldn't you like to do that?
You may not know, but wouldn't you think?
You know what?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tell me how to do this.
What am I doing?
I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Tell me.
Wouldn't you love?
Shouldn't there be classes somewhere?
Shouldn't people?
Shouldn't you take kids out to pretend you're eating and say, this is what we're going to do?
We're going to start with this.
And you start with a...
You start with a...
A very simple rule.
And by the way, when you play music, when you're acting, when you're in the arts, when you're playing baseball, there's respect on the field, there's certain things you do, there's this...
Remember in the old days, remember when you see somebody like the...
I don't know what it is, this...
Even a Joe DiMaggio, you know, kind of the tipping the hat.
Oh my God.
It's...
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful.
I get a kick out of watching, even though I don't have any real connection to it, the notion of the convocation of cardinals or the papists, even the pick-up pope, to say, look, this is tradition.
This is 500 years old.
This means something.
This procedure means something.
They're doing this.
This is why we do it.
This is what it means.
It's a procedure.
It's something that we do.
I love to know why humans do things, why we shake hands, and the way we speak.
I don't want to lose that.
I don't want to lose that.
And when we lose tradition, when we lose, and this goes for anybody, anywhere, this is in your family, this is whatever it is, do you have that relative in your family?
Did you ever have that grandmother or gram?
Father, that you show the ultimate respect to.
The ultimate respect.
Did you ever see this?
Did you ever see this?
Did you ever have somebody in your family, you're an aunt, an older, an older, where you just, everybody just dropped what they were doing.
They said, wow, that, that was something.
That.
Even in mob films, we hear this thing about respect.
Respect.
We love that word.
What does it mean?
What does it even mean?
So while everybody's talking about, you know, who said this and who said that, again, my particular piece, I go into kind of a more brutal look at it.
But I don't believe we necessarily need to do things.
The way we used to.
You know that scene from The Godfather when Michael is in Sicily and he meets Apollonia and he's walking and you see the cordon of women walk behind him?
Ever seen that?
I don't think that's necessary.
I don't think that's necessary.
That might have been the way they did it.
I don't think you should have old women on a company you want to date.
I don't.
I don't.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I was talking the other day, well, fairly recently, with a very, very old person, a bit of a cleric.
And he was telling me that he believes that men and women, young people, should not live together prior to marriage or whatever it is.
And I said, you know, I said that maybe something which is theoretically true, I said, but that's not going to happen.
And for whatever its reason, and I don't particularly, I think that rule can change.
I don't think that's...
There are things that change.
It may be theoretically correct, but it's something that doesn't really apply.
Now, certain things obviously change, and they give way.
Sometimes they give way because of...
I don't know.
Tradition.
You know, I would love to do this.
I would love to have somebody sit down and eat.
Just have them eat.
Have them be recorded, unbeknownst to them.
And then bring them out and have etiquette trainers, if you will, come forward and say, here's what you did.
And have all these check marks.
And have people say, what?
This one killed.
You have no idea.
When I see this, this for the four, I don't know what to do.
I'm thinking, where did this come from?
What happened?
I never saw this in my life.
But I'll bet you they would have no idea.
Elbows, this, talking with your mouth.
They would look at you and say, I don't even know.
This is a rule?
Yes.
I never knew that.
I didn't know that.
Little things, little things, little contracts we have with people.
Opening doors, not coming out of a subway or an elevator, whatever, to let people, just to try to force your way in.
You see this.
This sense of, the idea of, and I know this sounds really, really so ancient.
This is button shoes and horse and buggy time.
But to open the door for a lady, for a woman?
Is that wrong?
It might seem, I don't know, subservient.
How many people have never even heard of that?
How many people have never even heard of that?
That's the thing which is so...
It was very interesting the other day, in Washington, we're at kind of a club, and you could see...
The formality.
Sometimes you see members of Congress with their buttons and you would see it was beautiful.
It was really almost I don't want to say excessive, but it was really on display.
People were just showing there.
Oh my gosh, it was beautiful!
Gentility!
Words that just...
And if you want to respond today, if you want to go viral, if you want somebody to recognize who you are, if you want your reaction to either the president or the vice president or whoever, you have to do something that is going to get the attention.
And gentility and decorum and respect will never go viral.
I'm sorry to say that.
People will not say, oh my God, did you see this?
This is crazy.
This is going viral.
Look at this.
No.
He opened the door.
Did you see what this congressman did, the way he shook hands?
There was one moment when President Biden acknowledged Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell.
I thought, oh, thank God.
And then it was off to the races.
I love that.
Years ago, there was on Warner Brothers.
Cartoons.
Warner Brothers.
There was the, I guess it was the Sheepdog and the Coyote.
Remember this?
They would get up in the morning and go, Morning Sam, Morning Dog.
And they put their little card in the time stamp, you know, for the time card.
You know, the beginning of the bell.
And they would go after each other.
And the Sheepdog's trying to get the Coyote.
And the Coyote's trying to get back.
And they want to, Kill each other.
And then this one scene where the sheepdog has the coyote.
He's about to drop the coyote off of this.
They were always on these cliffs, on these mountains.
They always...
And when they fell, they could invert gravity.
They could...
Anyway, the sheepdog's about...
He's got the coyote.
He's about to drop him.
And just before he drops him...
It's the bell, the sound of the end of the day.
And they go...
See you tomorrow, Sam.
See you tomorrow, Dave.
That was it.
Reagan and Tip O 'Neill talking friendship.
And let me also tell you, if you think I'm just being some old-fashioned whatever, no.
It's more effective that way.
It's more effective.
You ever see two professional wrestlers who love each other?
Face and the heel working together?
Oh my God.
I see your stories about Bobby Heenan.
And Baron Von Raschke, that were some of the greatest things I've ever heard in my life.
Symbiosis, working together, working incredibly together.
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Now, let me ask you something.
Do you think that what I'm saying is, be honest, outdated, old-fashioned, me old-fashioned.
Because my world is so radical, people would not want to...
I haven't even got to the radical part yet.
But there are some things that I think that are completely radical.
I will shake, not here mind you, but will shake your sensibilities to the core.
So that's not my thing.
My whole thing has always been, frankly, enjoying being against the grain.
But do you think...
Do you think that this notion about this communal kind of a self-respect that we show each other, that this is somehow outdated?
Because I don't.
And let me also tell you something.
If you tell your kids, listen to me and listen carefully.
I don't care who you are.
I don't care whether you agree with this or not.
But if you don't have a kind bone in your body, if you were to say to people, to adults, yes ma 'am, yes sir, open doors, show politeness, and for young men in particular, if you want, if you're trying to catch the fancy of some young lady, I know this, it's still...
Last time I checked, it is still a consideration by many.
Politeness is the greatest thing you could ever do.
It's just that simple.
Even if you don't care in your heart of hearts, one way or another, it makes sense.
They will like you.
You will be treated better yourself.
You will do better in life.
You will get more things.
People will cooperate with you.
Even if you don't care about anybody, if you just show respect, what you get in return is off the charts.
Now that shouldn't be the only reason why you do it, but it's true.
And I don't understand it.
I don't understand it.
I don't like what I'm seeing.
And you will never hear, Anybody, ever, on any commentary platform, chide or rebuke any particular behavior, because it's not that the people are doing this.
It's the people who represent the opposite of their position who are doing this.
Because they didn't say anything when their own side did this.
They never said anything when their politician or their candidate...
Did something that was problematic?
No, no, no, no.
It's when the other side...
So it's not even real.
It's not even sincere.
I think I've said enough.
I really do.
I think I've said enough.
And I know you get it.
And good luck in trying to tell people this, but you're wasting your time.
I promise you, you can go on any platform, you call anybody up, and you will not hear anybody, anywhere, on any, anywhere.
Use, as a level of reference, respect and deportment and decorum and elegance.
Never.
It does not exist.
That's all I'm saying.
Okay?
That's all I'm saying.
Alright, dear friends, dear great and glorious friends, I thank you.
Let me give you a couple of things right off the bat.
First, please like this video.
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I don't know how to explain that anymore.
I'm not going to obey.
I'm just going to tell you.
This is my Twitter account.
I just did a beautiful review.
And we never talked about Lenny Skutnik.
We never talked about Lenny Skutnik.
Lenny Skutnik, oh my god, 1982.
The Skutniks last night we had were there.
But the history of Lenny Scott Nick brought to you by Ronald Reagan.
I went into great detail.
This is Mrs. L's Twitter.
Please follow her.
And, most importantly, there is a brand new newsletter that she puts out every week that went out.
And I suggest you immediately sign up for that because it is...
A doozy.
It involves subject matter that, frankly, is not covered anywhere.
And while we're on the subject of newsletters, you might want to have mine, too.
And that's it.
And one went on, I do kind of like a double batch.
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That's all I'm going to leave you with right now.
You do that.
You stick with that.
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My friends, you have a great and glorious day.
Enjoy the day.
Enjoy your time.
Enjoy your family.
Enjoy everything.
Remember this, as I end every broadcast with this valedictory, this, this, not denouement, but this conclusion.
The monkey's dead.
The show's over.
Sue ya.
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