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Nov. 22, 2022 - Lionel Nation
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Removing Certain Hate Speech From Twitter
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One of the most difficult things for people to understand, and I understand why they don't understand, is what do you do with people who say terrible things?
How do you handle this?
This has been something that people have wanted to know since the beginning of time.
How do you handle somebody who says terrible things?
Who incites people to violence, perhaps?
Who spews hate through this vitriol, this bilge, this horrible, endless, fount of...
How do you do that?
How do you stop that?
How do you stop that?
Well, you can do a couple of things.
You can throw people in jail.
That's not a good idea.
Because there's that pesky First Amendment thing, at least in this country.
Or, maybe, people like you and me can act together, act in concert to stop this.
To say, enough with this.
We shun you.
We ignore you.
We don't pay attention to you.
If nobody pays attention to people, Who say terrible things, nothing happens.
Because you see, incitement is a two-pronged issue.
They're saying it, and then there's reacting to it.
And that's the part that I have to keep telling you.
You have to react to it.
If I go up to you and I yell, jump in front of that car!
And you don't, I'm wasting my time.
Should I be charged with A crime of incitement of vehicular homicide?
Or am I ignored?
What do you do with people who say terrible and stupid things?
That's the issue.
And we're going to address this in great detail.
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I'm an ex-prosecutor, and I've seen my...
My cases, my instances of jumping into the fray, into the scrum, into the mash unit of this horrible dealing with the dreck.
Anyway.
One of the problems that we have has always been inchoate crimes.
Attempt, solicitations, offer to commit.
It's not really the crime, but it's something that's connected to it.
You know, me getting you to do something.
To aid, abet, counsel, procure, hire, to incite, because that's really the thing which is interesting.
You see, when people are upset with somebody, let's say whether it's Alex Jones or whether it's Ilhan Omar or maybe AOC or Biden or Trump or whoever, it's not enough that we don't like what they say.
It's the fact that something may come about.
Something may happen.
Something may stem from that.
Somebody may act accordingly.
It's not that somebody says something.
Great.
Terrific.
Somebody said something.
But that it may go someplace.
Because think about this.
If I found out, or you found out, or we found out, and somebody was standing in the middle of the Sahara Desert spewing the most horrible of racial invectives and nobody was around, Would we care?
No.
Because nobody's there to hear it.
It's almost like the issue of defamation.
Defamation involves the statement of a fact, which is defamatory, but there has to be publication, meaning it has to be said, has to be said so people can hear it.
If you mutter something to yourself, or say something in a language nobody understands, yeah, you said it, but that's not the issue.
Somebody has to hear it.
There's always a two...
Part component.
Somebody saying something, somebody uttering something, somebody enunciating something, something that's dangerous or awful or untoward or opprobrious or what have you.
And something that is acted upon or potentially acted upon.
Somebody has to hear this.
Somebody has to react to it.
So we We are that second part.
We are the component.
So if somebody gets up and somebody says the most horrible things in the world about, God forbid, terrible events that never happened, disputing, disputatious acts regarding something not happening, calling people liars, calling events a false flag or whatever, and worse than that, incurring the wrath.
And inspiring hate on the part of people to go after family members of those individuals who were left behind, victims.
If that second part never occurred, it wouldn't matter.
Never.
Never.
But people forget that.
Because today, some people think that just saying something, whether anything is...
Heard about it, whether anybody takes it upon faith, whether anybody acts upon it, whether anybody thinks it's legitimate.
It doesn't...
That part is always forgotten.
There have been cases...
In fact, there's a case you...
It's a movie, documentary you might have seen on Netflix about the Pepsi.
I want my jet.
Where's my jet?
Years ago Pepsi did these particular Pepsi challenges or Pepsi offers and they made a commercial where they said for 7 million points you can get a Harrier jet.
And some young man said that is an offer.
That was an offer and I'm accepting it.
Now here's my money and here's my thing so give me my jet.
And so there's obviously part of it that I'm leaving out.
But the most important part was the judge, Judge Kimba Wood, federal district court judge here in New York said, for the Southern District, said, no, this is ridiculous.
This was never intended to be taken seriously.
You acting upon, it was ridiculous.
There's no way anybody expects Pepsi to deliver a Harrier jet to somebody who comes up with 7,000 Pepsi bottle caps or points.
It's ridiculous because there is a component of this that deals with believability.
Meaning that if something that is being said is specious, your acting upon it is a waste of time because you should have known better.
Well, that's also a part of what we're seeing right here.
People are going to be saying stupid things.
And by the way, while we're at it, let me also tell you something.
Whenever somebody commits a crime, a horrible crime, let's say murder, murder, arson, property damage, something that involves some kind of a theoretical, some component to it that deals with a statement about people or a group or whether it's homophobic or transphobic or Islamophobic or whatever.
Invariably, and listen carefully, invariably, the statement that is made is stupid!
It's crazy!
It's nutty!
It's weird!
People who act upon things are crazy!
So let me just say something.
If somebody does something horrible and kills people and destroys property, and then somebody says, why did you do it?
And they say, because of Mary Poppins.
That's why.
What?
Do you accept that?
Just because they said Mary Poppins?
I don't think so.
Ladies and gentlemen, my dear friend, this is a very complicated issue.
And we should go through this bit by bit, issue by issue, layer by layer.
But please, please remember something.
We have to ask ourselves, Every time we tell somebody to shut up, to get off a platform, to keep your mouth shut, to go away, to remove themselves from the commerce of individual ideation or thought, every time we do this, we hurt ourselves.
We hurt the cause.
When somebody says, you, Alex Jones, you, AOC, or whoever it is, get off, get off social media, get off, you know, Twitter, because you, by God, what would be the likelihood of somebody telling you that you, that, for example, your mobile carrier, Verizon or something, told you to get off the phone?
And that they would not allow you to use the phone because of your particular hate speech.
You would say, wait a minute.
You're a utility.
Your job is not to review the sagacity, the literal reality of what I'm saying.
Yours is just to provide a service.
And therein lies the issue.
My friends, we're going to be talking more about this in many forms and many iterations.
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