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Feb. 14, 2025 - Loomer Unleashed - Laura Loomer

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EP102: MAGA Or Mole? Lindy Li Responds

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Have a great weekend.
	A young female journalist.
	A conservative journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.
	If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems will be fixed in about five minutes.
	Chained herself to Twitter.
	Chained herself to Twitter.
	Chained herself to Twitter.
	I'm your host, Laura Loomer.
	We have a lot to talk about tonight, so we're just going to go ahead and get right into it.
	If you were following me from early this morning, from the moment I woke up, it's been pretty explosive.
	We're going to have Chris LaCarrada, the founder of Grassi, who's also a sponsor of Loomer Unleashed, join us momentarily.
	But before he comes on the show and we talk about everything that happened today up on Capitol Hill, And over these last two days with the confirmation hearings with Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr., I'll have to give you a preview so that you can understand why this is going to be one of the more highly anticipated episodes of Loomer Unleashed tonight.
	Some of you may have seen there's an individual, a woman by the name of Lindy Lee, who is gaining a lot of traction on the internet right now amongst...
	Right-wing circles, and I guess you could say even Democrat circles.
	Lindy Lee is a Chinese immigrant who rose to prominence in the Democrat Party doing fundraising for the Democrats, raising money for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris' campaign, even running for Congress herself.
	And she has a long history of making very, very, very derogatory We have those images.
	We're going to show all of you the receipts tonight.
	And I was posting about this because I've noticed that for some reason there's a lack of vetting in the Republican Party and within the GOP just in general.
	And any single time, any kind of minority or any kind of immigrant...
	Says one thing bad about the Democrats or Joe Biden, or they say something that sounds believable or convincing about the GOP. Republicans just immediately put their guard down because for some reason, and I don't know, I don't know what the problem is.
	I'm going to start calling it tokenization syndrome.
	I think I'm going to coin that term tonight.
	Tokenization syndrome.
	The Republican Party is addicted to having tokens.
	And whether it's Asians or blacks or whether it's Hispanics or Muslims, whatever it may be, there's an egregious lack of vetting.
	And constantly, time and time again, the Republican Party ends up stepping in it.
	You know, we've had Black Lives Matter activists who have said that they were all of a sudden pro-MAGA, and yet, you know, some of these individuals have been tied up in fraudulent scams, but the Republican Party turns blind eye to it because they're so desperate to have that validation from a black person or a Hispanic person or an Asian woman or a Muslim that they don't do any basic research.
	We saw this almost bite the Trump campaign in the ass recently when during their Muslim outreach in Dearborn, Michigan, you had individuals who were advocating for Hamas and Hezbollah who all of a sudden decided because of the issue between the war of Israel and Hamas that they wanted to endorse President Trump.
	And so some genius on President Trump's campaign thought it was going to be a good idea to allow for an imam.
	To give the invocation at President Trump's inauguration.
	And obviously this didn't end up happening because, well, people like myself and others brought it to the Trump campaign's awareness and then ultimately the media ended up picking up on this because somebody within the campaign failed to do vetting.
	Why am I bringing this up?
	Because this imam was actually cited as refusing to condemn Hezbollah and actually supported Hezbollah.
	And because he was a Muslim who said that he supported President Trump, people on Trump's campaign and the inaugural committee were willing to allow this pro-Hezbollah imam to give the invocation.
	Thank God he was not able to give the invocation.
	And thank God there was no Islamic speaker, period, at President Trump's inauguration.
	But this has happened over and over and over again.
	I mean, look, there have been instances of, you know, there was an instance during the campaign of a woman in California who had been charged with animal abuse.
	And for some reason, I guess she had a rich husband.
	Who ended up giving money to the Trump campaign and she was almost appointed as a delegate for the convention.
	So, again, I love President Trump and I love the message of the Trump campaign and the Trump administration, but unfortunately, within the Republican apparatus and within the overall GOP apparatus, there's such a thirst for tokenization.
	That there's really not a lot of vetting going on.
	And so unfortunately, you know, we have bad actors and people who have said the most terrible things about President Trump.
	I mean, we see this now with a lot of the tech billionaires who are being invited into Trump's circle.
	And now, even after the fact, right, people who...
	Worked with the Democrat Party and worked with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, like Lindy Lee, all throughout the 2024 election season, now being welcomed on board to the inaugural committee.
	Yes, in fact, this woman, Lindy Lee, even though she has been accused of being a CCP asset, even though she has called President Trump a serial rapist, even though she has said that Trump supporters are Klan members, was actually appointed to the Trump Vance inaugural committee, believe it or not.
	And so I posted some information about Lindy Lee because people like Benny Johnson and Dinesh D'Souza and Glenn Beck have been trying to normalize this woman and bring her onto their podcast so that she can reinvent herself, even though, you know, she spent the entire election season bashing President Trump.
	And it was only just, you know, a day after the election that she decided that she hated Joe Biden and then wanted to be a Trump supporter.
	You know, like, this isn't a reawakening.
	This is what you call opportunism.
	And so I've been monitoring a lot of the statements that this woman has been making.
	There have been people out there who followed her congressional campaigns, people who have monitored her social media postings, who believe that she is a foreign agent.
	Now, I'm not accusing Lindy Lee of being a CCP asset.
	I'm not accusing Lindy Lee of being a foreign agent.
	But I do find it to be rather suspicious that an individual who was born in China is now all of a sudden trying to just infiltrate the GOP And so we're going to get into this.
	You can scroll my social media timeline if you haven't seen the interaction.
	She blocked me on social media because I pointed out the fact that she said she doesn't even speak Chinese.
	So how could she be a CCP asset?
	And then I found...
	Multiple videos of her speaking Chinese with my investigative team here at Loomer Unleashed, including the account that works with me often, CCP Skit Tracer.
	If you're not following it, be sure that you're following his account.
	And then to my surprise, I suppose, this morning I received a DM message from Lindy Lee.
	And without revealing all of the screenshots...
	I suppose my producer can show that screenshot so that you can see that that's how the interaction went down.
	So, Cannon, go ahead and screenshot the first interaction.
	You don't need to show the entire DM thread, but you can show that Lindy Lee did, in fact, contact the show account.
	She didn't contact my personal account because she blocked me.
	She claims that she blocked me because people were tagging her, but...
	My first interaction with her was months ago, actually, before yesterday.
	And she had me blocked even before I ever tweeted at her.
	So I wouldn't really agree with the premise of her claim that she blocked me because my supporters were tagging her because I first found that I was blocked by her the first time I ever posted about her around the time of the inauguration when I discovered that she was on the inaugural committee despite her history of making derogatory anti-Trump comments.
	Long story short, Lindy Lee reached out to the Loomer Unleashed account and asked if she could have a conversation with me.
	And I decided that if Lindy Lee wanted to have a conversation with me, she could have that conversation on the phone here on Loomer Unleashed.
	So I have not had any phone calls with Lindy Lee today or ever.
	For that matter.
	And this is going to be our first time having a conversation tonight over video here live on Loomer Unleashed because we were DMing today and we were going back and forth about the show and she did agree to come on the show.
	And so she's going to be coming on.
	She's going to be coming on the show tonight at about 1020 Eastern.
	And so we're going to have other guests come on tonight.
	In the meantime, including...
	The founder of Grassy, the sponsor of Loomer Unleashed.
	But Cannon, let's go ahead and get this so that people can see the DM. Because I just want to be fully transparent with everybody so that they understand how this went down.
	Go ahead and show the screenshot.
	Yeah, let's get the DM pulled up.
	Here you go.
	So this is the DM that she sent me this morning at 9.36 a.m.
	Hi, is Laura willing to speak with me?
	Thank you so much.
	That was sent to the Loomer Unleashed account, and we replied from the Loomer Unleashed account, would you like to come on her show?
	And then afterwards, you can show, I guess, the other messages as well, just so that there's a full understanding of what the viewers can expect tonight.
	Because I have not had any conversations with Lindy.
	The communication has been with my producer thus far.
	She has been communicating with my producer.
	And, you know, my producer sent me the messages that he was going to send to Lindy, and I approved the messages.
	And so we sent the messages, and, you know, she asked if it was going to be an ambush.
	And I said, well, you know, it depends on your understanding of what the term ambush is because...
	It's not intended to be an ambush, but we are going to be asking Lindy questions tonight about her comments and about her statements and about the inconsistencies with her statements as it relates to the things I've uncovered.
	And so we're going to have a respectful conversation tonight, and we're going to have an open and truthful conversation tonight.
	It's going to be a peaceful and respectful conversation, but that's how that's going to go down.
	Anybody is welcome on Loomer Unleashed, especially people that I'm reporting on or people that I'm commenting on.
	And this is a lesson for all of my detractors or anybody who ends up finding themselves in the middle of Loomer Unleashed reports or any of my reports.
	I'm open to having anybody on my show.
	It doesn't matter if you're a lawmaker, if you're a private citizen, or you're a public figure.
	If I'm reporting on you and you want to either refute my reporting or you want to give your own point of view or you want to...
	Give your side of the story.
	You're more than welcome to come on Loomer Unleashed.
	And so in the next 45 minutes or so, Lindy Lee is going to be coming on.
	So please be sure that we're live right now.
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	We're going to hold people accountable and we're going to bring the receipts and we do have receipts tonight that we are going to be releasing here that we have not released yet on my...
	My public Twitter account.
	There are documents pertaining to Lindy Lee that we have not publicly released yet that we are going to be asking her about live on air tonight.
	And so stay tuned because she's going to be coming on in the next 45 minutes.
	But before that, I want to thank the sponsor of tonight's episode of Loomer Unleash, Grassy.
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	I'm so busy all the time.
	I don't have a lot of time to eat all the time.
	So I like drinking these drinks because I feel like, because I'm not really getting a lot of nutrition because I... I kind of eat just once a day these days because I get so tied up and bogged down in my work.
	I feel like I'm getting my daily vitamin dose by drinking Grossi and I feel like it helps me when I'm feeling lightheaded or when I'm feeling a little under the weather or maybe I'm not feeling well because, well, I'm kind of run down from working so much.
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	When you sip on Grassi, you're not just nourishing yourself, you're helping support American workers and local communities across our country.
	And if there's one thing that you know about me, I always stand with American workers, American businesses, and American manufacturing.
	And it's quite fitting that the sponsor of today's episode of Loomer Unleashed is Grassi, given the fact that today we witnessed the confirmation of RFK Jr. in the Senate.
	So he is now officially the Human Health Services Secretary.
	I thought, what better way to kick off tonight's episode and celebrate the health revitalization of America and American citizens than by talking about...
	And by talking about American innovators and American businesses that are committed to the Maha agenda.
	And so joining me now to discuss the confirmation today of RFK Jr. and the importance of supporting healthy living and the importance of making America healthy again is Chris LaCarrada, the founder and the CEO of Grossi.
	Chris, thank you so much for joining me tonight on Loomer Unleashed, and thank you so much for your sponsorship of my show.
	I really appreciate it.
	Well, it's a pleasure, Laura.
	Nice to speak with you.
	I couldn't have said it better.
	I love what you just said with Lugrassi.
	That's fantastic.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And I think your business is really interesting for multiple reasons.
	You are promoting the Maha lifestyle and you're promoting healthy living.
	And what drives me really crazy, and I'm sure that you can relate to this as somebody who's in the health beverage industry, is you see a lot of these phony drinks out there, beverages that say that they're health beverages, and then you flip them over and they have more or higher grams of sugar than your average Snickers bar.
	And what a lot of people don't understand is that a lot of these drinks are no better than if you were to eat two Kit Kat bars or a Snickers or, you know, a lollipop because of the high levels of sugar.
	So they're not exactly health beverages.
	And a lot of the so-called health beverages and even protein bars, a lot of these health items that are marketed to Americans are not really nutritious.
	They're not actually healthy and they're not actually health.
	They're not actually beneficial to boosting immunity or just having a healthy lifestyle in general.
	And so I personally do not promote any products that I don't personally use myself.
	And I've drank your beverage on my show before and we have it here in the background.
	And I've, you know, I've tasted it live on air.
	I drink.
	I've explained that there's multiple flavors, and for me personally, as somebody who is always on the go, I've been awake for the last 48 hours because I've just had so much work to do.
	I haven't been able to sleep.
	It actually helps when I'm able to drink these grassy drinks because sometimes I forget to take my daily multivitamin.
	If you're not consistent with your daily multivitamin, you're not going to get your daily vitamin dose as you know.
	You obviously need to stay hydrated.
	You're not going to forget to drink water or forget to hydrate yourself throughout the day.
	And so if you're somebody who is on the go like I am and you forget to take your daily multivitamins, that's why a drink like Grossi, in my opinion, is so beneficial because it's low in sugar, it's low in carbs.
	But it also has your daily doses of vitamin D, C, and zinc.
	And I think that we're going to start to see a reform and perhaps even more regulation in the health market with the confirmation of RFK Jr. because there are a lot of deceptive products out there, especially with the way that the FDA has been completely corrupted and the way that there's so many companies out there with false marketing promoting products that are not exactly healthy.
	To the American people, deceiving them into thinking that their products are beneficial to their health.
	And so I wanted to get your opinion on this and your comments about what the confirmation of RFK Jr. means for the country, for the optimization of health for all Americans, and also for the future of true American businesses and products that are manufactured here in America like your product is and the overall health of the American people.
	Sure.
	I mean, I think, you know, when you start with the fact that, you know, 38 million Americans is diagnosed with diabetes and you look at the beverage industry alone, I mean, we have, you know, carbonated soft drinks are anywhere from 32 grams or above that in sugar.
	And these days what we're calling low sugar products are 8 grams.
	And so when we developed Grossi, we wanted to make sure that number one, we addressed that issue.
	So we were at 4 grams of sugar.
	So we're even lower than what are considered low sugar brands.
	So we're even lower than that.
	But we are considered a functional beverage because we wanted to address a couple of different things.
	Number one, we want to stand out as a brand that's an alternative to the sea of highly processed, highly sugared, unhealthy brands that Represent the beverage industry.
	So we wanted to make sure we stood out as an alternative and something that when people do want to become healthy and have a healthier lifestyle and have it be part of their daily lifestyle, we wanted to be that brand they could turn to and have faith and trust in that brand that what we say is under labels in the bottle.
	And that comes from us being going through the rigor to have the certification for organic and everything else.
	And the base of our product is barley grass juice powder.
	And that has long medicinal benefits, good for detoxifying the body, the liver, the bloodstream.
	And we use that as our base.
	And then we infused it with vitamin D, C, and zinc to boost immunity.
	So we really want it to be a functional, healthy beverage that is very low sugar.
	And the sugar we use, by the way, is monk fruit and cane sugar, all organic.
	And when we started this brand...
	Organic was a difficult track.
	It was very difficult to get the certification, number one, and very difficult to break into the beverage industry, which has a sea of beverages, as you're probably aware.
	Very competitive industry.
	So the food and beverage industry in general is a very large, very competitive industry.
	So it's hard to argue the fact that child obesity, one in five children are obese.
	38 million Americans have diabetes.
	I mean, we have a health epidemic in this country.
	Yeah, and now you're also seeing a lot of lawsuits, especially by the parents of these children and teenagers who are drinking so-called health and energy drinks, and you have countless stories of children just dropping dead or teenagers dying because they're drinking so-called drinks that are marketed.
	They're literally marketed, and they're allowed to be marketed as energy drinks or health drinks, and they're not.
	They're actually giving people cardiac issues, and they're actually contributing to diabetes.
	And so why is that?
	Like, why are so many health companies, and I say health companies in air quotes because there's so many products, it seems like, that are able to get away with marketing themselves as health products or healthy drinks or energy drinks or...
	Maybe you can speak to that because I don't work in this industry.
	That's your specialty as somebody who's worked in this market for over 20 years, according to your bio.
	Because that is something that I find to be extremely concerning.
	And perhaps if that becomes regulated or maybe RFK Jr. is able to change that.
	We'll see a decrease in childhood obesity and heart disease in our country.
	But I've never really understood why these companies are allowed to do that.
	Well, at first, it's regulation and accountability, number one.
	And number two is transparency.
	I think that's the great thing that I'm hearing from RFK, and that is that the more we can expose this to the public, the more they can understand what exactly is going into these ingredients, where they come from, how they're manufactured.
	The more we can understand that, the better we can begin to center in on what we do about it.
	But there just has been any accountability.
	And we've been, I guess, we've been a little bit, I guess it would be convinced through marketing techniques and other things that they're actually good brands.
	And in many cases, they just simply aren't.
	And they just have gotten away with it.
	And for long periods of time, especially the larger the corporation sometimes.
	It's easier to get a cheaper product and to leverage that into, you know, their procurement structures and things like that.
	So, you know, a little bit of that goes on.
	But the fact that there's not been enough transparency and there's not been enough accountability, especially as we see these kind of things like 38 million Americans with diabetes, one in five children that could be considered obese, we just have not had enough accountability.
	And there's not been enough transparency and understanding by the public to push back on that.
	So that's just my opinion, and they'll get away with it as long as they can.
	And until somebody steps on them.
	Another thing about your company and your product is that it's manufactured here in America and it supports American manufacturing as an American business, which means that you're employing Americans.
	Perhaps you can also share some statistics because this is not my wheelhouse.
	And I'm also interested in knowing how many of these drinks and beverages that are marketed as health drinks or just sodas or any kind of beverage in general, how many of these are actually manufactured here in America?
	And I've seen from your resume and also your bio that you've worked with companies like Coca-Cola and Nestle before.
	And so can you speak to the percentage of the beverages that are being consumed by Americans that are actually manufactured here in America compared to your product?
	Well, I can't speak to it in terms of how many beverages, but I can speak to the overall manufacturing industries.
	So when you think about this, You know, we literally, especially in the last 25 years, because of trade agreements, NAFTA mostly, and what's happened with what they call the China effect, we have lost a serious amount of factories in this country to foreign entities.
	And when you think about what the economic impact is and the control for consumers when the factories are within our borders and the control within our agencies and even our government.
	It is much more rigorous than others.
	The quality standards in other nations aren't the same as ours.
	And even ours need a lot of work, as we're talking about.
	But we've lost over 42,000 factories in this country in the last 25 years.
	And a lot of that had come from foreign products that came in and flooded the market and ended up putting our American businesses out of business.
	And having that backfill with a foreign entity, or worse than that, when our own corporations shut down our manufacturing plants and ship them overseas.
	And those are high-paying manufacturing jobs and in many cases came out of smaller communities.
	And the decimation, I mean literally the ruin that it does to these communities is absolutely amazing.
	And if people could see that up front, and we've done that 42,000 times in the last 25 years.
	And for what?
	I mean, we produce it better here.
	We can produce it with higher quality here.
	It's got better regulation, believe it or not, here than it does in other places.
	And we've lost all these jobs to outside entities.
	And let me give you an example.
	It is not the beverage industry.
	But I'll give you an example.
	I live here in the South.
	And one of the industries that took the biggest hit in America is textiles.
	And we live in an old textile town, and the remnants of the textile industry was here when we got here, all these vacant buildings and factories and everything else.
	And they had a third-generation family that employed thousands of people across the region, but because of a flood of foreign product into the region, they ended up going out of business.
	But now here we are, 25 years later, and the latest manufacturing plant here in town is a Chinese textile plant.
	So we jettisoned and just destroyed thousands of jobs in the region, destroyed a three-generation family business, and helped to destroy part of the industry in America.
	And to do what?
	To give it to a foreign entity that now builds a factory back into our country, right in our backyards.
	So a lot of that had been going on, and NAFTA was pointed to as one of the issues.
	For trade in this country, and we've lost an awful lot of manufacturing across sectors.
	The beverage industry and food industry has not been hit as hard with outsourcing, but it comes down to where are they sourcing the ingredients from?
	And if they're not sharing that, you'll never know.
	But if they're pulling ingredients from another country, what's the quality standard?
	Where are they taking that from?
	And if they could take it from here and produce it here and create another business here or support another business here, why wouldn't we do that?
	And that's what you do.
	Just tell our viewers, so, I mean, obviously, I've been promoting your product for a while now, but I think it'd be interesting and also inspiring for them to hear directly from you.
	How many employees do you have?
	Where are your factories located?
	How many jobs are you creating in rural communities where a lot of these factories have been shut down due to outsourcing to foreign labor?
	Because I know that that's why you created Grassi and why you're so committed, as we speak about often on the show, to supporting American workers and also American manufacturing.
	Yeah, I mean, we are an emerging company.
	We're a young brand, so we do mostly everything by contract.
	So our manufacturing plant is right here in Virginia.
	We're in the Carolinas, but we produce in Virginia, all American, obviously.
	All of our ingredients come from America.
	We made sure of that.
	And all of our sales and all of our employees are our third party at this point.
	Like I said, we're a young brand and growing.
	So we have a small amount of people and we're a family organization that are full-time folks that are on our payroll.
	Everybody else is third party at this point.
	So that's everybody from brand management companies to distributors to our sales groups and things like that.
	We do it all through third party.
	But everything we do, we make sure that everything's manufactured within the States and everything we do in the States is something that's promoting.
	Manufacturing in the States.
	But, Laura, let me share something with you.
	How we got started here at Grassi, and you've already touched on it, is I'm from manufacturing, but my start in manufacturing was in my wife's hometown.
	That was a town that was hit very, very hard with factory closures.
	And the factory I was working in at that point got shut down.
	So that's where this all started.
	And 40 years later, you know, I spent all that time in manufacturing and I saw that repeated.
	Far too many times.
	And the destruction of these small towns is just amazing.
	So we've lost in the last 20 years, 5.5 million manufacturing jobs.
	And you cannot replace a manufacturing job with a service sector job, which pays 30% less.
	So you're probably very happy and content with President Trump's new tariff policies.
	Oh, you know, the fact that NAFTA is gone, thank you.
	And the fact that he is the last four or five presidents, I mean, he is the guy that understands trade more than most.
	And he's addressing the reciprocal trade issue, which is definitely an issue because we have other nations that are, you know, the trade imbalance is pretty significant.
	So they have tariffs on us and we don't tariff them.
	So I think, you know, all he's doing is shoring up.
	As of today now, we have tariff reciprocity.
	Yes, absolutely.
	And there should be.
	Isn't that fair?
	I mean, you know, this is a, you know, why should we be the country that's on the short end of that stick?
	So these are American manufacturers matter as well.
	And American manufacturers and workers matter as well.
	So, yeah, he's just shoring up what should have been done 20 years ago.
	So I'm thankful for President Trump addressing a very difficult issue.
	I'm sure that's not easy.
	But at the same time, the more manufacturing we can do in this country and our borders, the better.
	Absolutely.
	I want to go ahead and get your reaction to some of these clips.
	Here's the clip from RFK Jr.'s confirmation vote passing today.
	The Democrats were very sad.
	As you know, here at Loomer Unleashed, not only do we have a show, but we have a full-scale media team as well that goes into the field.
	We have a D.C. correspondent, and we spend a lot of our time tracking and confronting members of Congress and senators and just politicians in general.
	And we've been tracking a lot.
	A lot of these Democrat senators who have been opposing RFK Jr.'s nomination and his confirmation.
	And of course, you know, they're all bankrolled by Big Pharma.
	If you look at their FEC records, as we pointed out today, the DSCC, the Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee, has received thousands and thousands of dollars from Pfizer and Pfizer's PAC. So they are financially inclined and they have a reason,
	of course, through their donors to oppose On this vote, the yeas are 52, the nays are 48. Confirmation is confirmed.
	Just number four?
	Yeah.
	There's obviously a lot of excitement today because it is going to be a new age.
	It is going to be a new age.
	And what we're seeing is pretty remarkable in this country.
	Generally, you have partisan cabinets where the people that are confirmed or nominated are partisan loyalists.
	And in this case, President Trump has appointed several Democrats in the form of Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. to his cabinet, both of whom have been confirmed over the last 48 hours.
	And it's not just a political realignment, but it's also a cultural realignment.
	And I think we're going to see a medical and a health realignment.
	as well in our country, which I think is going to be beneficial.
	But it's just it's just really stunning to me to see the lack of honesty from these from these Democrats, because RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard, for example, they've been lifelong Democrats.
	I mean, up until about two months before the election, RFK Jr. was attacking President Trump every day and saying that he was morally bankrupt.
	But then, you know, President Trump was able to put those insults aside and realize that, yeah, he might have some crazy wacky ideas as it relates to climate change.
	But he is pretty sound and pretty logical when it comes to the health of our country and his proposals to making America healthy again.
	But these senators, instead of just admitting that they have this partisan animus towards President Trump and his nominees, they don't want to admit that they're on the tape.
	From these pharmaceutical companies.
	So we confronted some of these senators today just moments before that vote was completed, the vote that we just played.
	And I want to get your take on this.
	We have a clip up.
	Let's go ahead and play clip number five of Loomer Unleashed confronting Senator Amy Klobuchar about the RFK hearing today.
	Hello, Senator Klobuchar.
	Are Senate Democrats against ROK Jr. because of Pfizer PACs donations to DSCC?
	Is that why?
	And then, of course, Mazzy Hirono as well.
	So they all they're all just.
	We're pretty much on a first-name basis with these senators now because they know that we're not going to stop.
	So they actually started referring to my correspondent by his first name because they realized we're not going to go away no matter how many times they ignore us.
	Let's go ahead and play clip number six.
	Hey Senator Hirono, are Senate Democrats against RFK Jr. because of their Pfizer packs donations to DSCC? You guys have a great day too!
	And then, of course, the biggest loser of today, Senator Elizabeth Warren, who denies the fact that she takes money from Big Pharma, even though FEC records show that she has received over $5.2 million in the last five years since 2020, the 2020 election season, from employees and executives at pharma companies, including donations from the Sackler family, which is the family behind the opioid crisis in this country.
	So let's go ahead and play.
	play clip number two.
	Senator Warren, is your acceptance of $5.2 million from Big Pharma since 2020 the reason why you don't want RFK Jr. suing Big Pharma?
	Is that why?
	Check my website.
	I don't take contributions from Big Pharma executives.
	I don't take any corporate PAC money.
	And you and your allies already know that.
	Thank you.
	What are your thoughts about that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, transparency, transparency.
	I mean, that's the entire push around the Trump administration.
	We are just seeing more than we've seen in decades in terms of what's happening in Washington.
	So the more we can expose every one of these politicians that are doing something to hurt the American people or fleecing the American people, look what we're seeing with Elon Musk.
	I mean, you know, what's flushing out is things that I think the American people just didn't understand the depth of what was actually happening with taxpayer money.
	Did you ever think in your time that people would actually start using FEC Records as entertainment?
	I mean, this is stuff that generally you'd get called a nerd for, like a policy wonk, and nobody would understand.
	It'd be like, you know, blah, blah, blahs, you know, falling asleep now because nobody cares, right?
	But now they've made it something that people actually want to look up themselves.
	And you have everyday people that are so outraged that they're becoming like little data analysts, stay-at-home moms.
	That are now, you know, amassing hundreds of thousands of followers on X accounts online because they're just sitting at home and posting data from the USAID website.
	And I mean, it's just really quite something to see.
	And hallelujah for that, right?
	The more the American people can be informed, the better, all of us.
	So yeah, I think that's what's happening with the Trump administration.
	We're going to see more of this.
	Yeah, we have, speaking of transparency, let's play clip number seven.
	This is RFK Jr. at his hearing saying that he wants radical transparency, very similar to what you just said about this concept of more transparency.
	Go ahead and play clip seven.
	Transparent.
	Yeah, my approach, as I said before, Senator, is radical transparency.
	Democrats and Republicans ought to be able to come in and get information that was generated at taxpayer expense that is owned by the American taxpayer.
	It shouldn't get redacted documents.
	Public health agencies should be transparent.
	And if we want Americans to restore trust in the public health agencies, we need transparency.
	I want to say something about what you first said.
	When I launched my campaign, it was about uniting Americans, Democrats and Republicans.
	There's no issue that she's united more than this chronic health epidemic.
	There's no such thing as Republican children or Democratic children.
	These are our kids.
	Sixty-six percent of them are damaged.
	I know what a healthy kid looks like, because I had so many of them in my family.
	I didn't know anybody with a food allergy growing up, peanut allergy.
	Why do five of my kids have allergies?
	Why are we seeing these explosions in diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, neurological diseases, depression, all these things that are related to toxic in the environment?
	Why can't we just agree with each other to put differences about so many issues, intractable issues aside, and say, we're going to end this.
	I don't think anybody is going to be able to do this like I have.
	Because of my peculiar experience, because I've litigated against these agencies.
	When you litigate against them, you get a PhD in corporate capture and how to unravel it.
	I've written six books about these agencies.
	I know a lot about them and I know how to fix it.
	And there's nobody...
	We'll fix it the way that I do because I'm not scared of vested interest.
	I don't care.
	I'm not here because I want a position or a job.
	I have a very good life and a happy family.
	This is something I don't need.
	I want to do this because we're going to fix it.
	And the other thing is we are attracting now a caliber of people to HHS like never before in history.
	And there are entrepreneurs there.
	They're disruptors.
	They're innovators of immense talent that are walking away, many of them, from growing concerns.
	They're not coming there or positioned.
	They're coming there because they want to save our country.
	And they're from across the political spectrum.
	And all these Democrats are opposed to me for partisan issues.
	They used to be my friends.
	They agreed with me on all the environmental issues that I've been working on for my whole career.
	Now they're against me because anything that President Trump does, any decision he makes, has to be...
	Thoughts on that?
	Well, first of all, I love what he said.
	Children are not Republican or Democrat.
	They're our children.
	I mean, this should be a protected class in this country that, you know, they should be something that we should be worrying about all their, what they're doing and their food as well and their diets.
	So he's hitting the right nerve there and the right touch points, I think, the way to say it.
	Leave the politics out of it, because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
	So anybody that is taking politics into it, you've got to wonder, what do we need to understand about them?
	So the fact that he's taking the middle road in that way, in that kind of touch points, in those kind of talking points, I think is the right way to do it.
	And then secondly, is it really just that he continues to stay on the point of, we have an epidemic in this country, and we do.
	And if we don't address it right now, we're going to have generations of Americans that are going to be the unhealthiest in the world, and we're heading that way already.
	So I think what he said, everything he stood, and he stood his ground, too.
	I loved it because he was attacked by every corner.
	And it was interesting to me because, you know, I'm old enough to know that the Kennedys were full-on Democrats for the longest time.
	They were the royal Democratic family.
	And to have him be sitting there is an interesting thing for me.
	But I think he's saying all the right things, and he's trying to bring everybody to the middle to make sure that it's for all the right causes.
	And he is addressing the right things.
	It's nutrition and farming and all of what builds into poor health.
	So he's beginning to address all that.
	Transparency has got to be it, because you've got to start there.
	Absolutely.
	I have one last clip from RFK's hearing that I want to get your take on as somebody who is in the health beverage industry.
	It's a clip of him talking about how we have a health crisis and it's an existential threat to our nation.
	Let's go ahead and play clip number eight.
	Seniors in this country and others are...
	Let me ask you this because I only have so much time.
	So we've already negotiated lowering prices for 10 drugs with Big Pharma.
	And Big Pharma, by the way, opposes this.
	They have not only are asking for a pause, they have filed lawsuits, but we've already negotiated the first 10 drugs.
	And we want to expand it to the next 10 to 15 that the Biden administration has put forward.
	Would you agree and continue that path of...
	Really mandating that big pharma come to the table and negotiate drug prices for Medicare so we can lower those prices for Americans?
	My understanding is that the executive order that was issued today, which I haven't seen, but I've read a summary.
	Well, let me ask you this then, because you keep citing the Trump administration and you're just going to follow what they say.
	Is that what you're doing?
	You're just a rubber stamp in this position?
	So it doesn't matter that you're before us.
	It could be anybody coming before us, as long as they're a rubber stamp for this administration.
	Regarding your beliefs and what you think?
	I guess my question to you is if it really is fundamental to what you believe, how do you live with that?
	How do you address those issues as you're moving forward?
	You want me to answer the question, Senator?
	Yeah.
	You want me to answer the question?
	No, I'm asking you.
	Okay.
	President Trump has asked me to end the chronic disease epidemic and make America healthy again.
	So is that the only reason why you're at HHS? Is that the only reason why then you're at the HHS to address that one issue?
	President Trump has asked me because I'm in a unique position to end that.
	So basically in that clip, he talks about how it's a long clip.
	It's about four minutes long.
	And so he says that there's a chronic illness disease in this country.
	And one of the reasons why so many Americans have chronic illness, believe it or not, and I'm sure that you know this because your drink has vitamin C, D, and zinc in it, is because of vitamin deficiency.
	A lot of Americans are malnourished because our foods and the nutrition in this country has become so over-processed If you are getting three meals a day, you can be malnourished and you can have vitamin deficiency.
	A lot of people don't understand that because they think, well, if I'm eating three meals a day or if I'm not hungry, how am I malnourished?
	You think of people in impoverished third world countries who have no food as being malnourished.
	But maybe you can speak to the importance of getting enough vitamins, getting enough nutrition, getting enough...
	You know, balanced nutrition in your life and how grassy as a product is helping people maintain their nutritional values and their vitamin levels because I think that when we have somebody like Robert Kennedy In HHS,
	as opposed to somebody like Rachel Levine who's, you know, pushing transgenderism and pushing more of like a woke agenda, people are going to finally understand that it's simple little things like changing your nutrition and maybe adding a multivitamin or adding more vitamins to your day-to-day routine can actually help alleviate a lot of diseases.
	Like, I personally, I mean, I don't really talk about my own, like, health on the program a lot, but I started feeling really fatigued and tired a few months ago, and I went to the doctor and had to get a full blood test, and they told me that I was actually vitamin D deficient.
	And so they prescribed me vitamin D, and I started taking these high doses of vitamin D, like, higher than your typical vitamin D doses.
	But that's another reason why I'm grateful for a product like Grossi is because, you know, Not only was I vitamin D deficient before I started taking vitamin D supplements, but because I'm on the go and I travel so much, it's hard for me to carry big bottles of vitamins with me everywhere I go.
	I don't want to have to carry these giant bottles.
	And so for me, when I have grassy, I'm going to be drinking bottles of water every single day.
	So knowing that I can drink.
	A water that's not going to make me gain weight because it doesn't have, you know, 30 grams of sugar and doesn't have 50 grams of carbs in it.
	It's helping me.
	It's actually helping me with my own vitamin deficiency and I feel less fatigued now that I'm getting, you know, higher doses of vitamin D. Well, your body has needs every day and if those needs are not met, you start to head down a path of, you know, opening yourself up to disease and all kinds of issues.
	Hydration is one of them, of course, staying hydrated and keeping a strong immunity system is your biggest defense as well.
	So that's why we went that path with, you know, DC and Zinc to make sure that our product had good immunity boosting, natural immunity boosting parameters in our drink.
	And barley grass juice powder was the other base that we just talked about that had long medicinal histories as well.
	So, you know, you could take our drink on the run and you're going to have water or something else anyway that day.
	You might as well do something to help your body.
	But your body has needs, and processed foods have low nutritional values.
	So in some cases, ingredients that are not good for you at all or could create or begin to create the condition for chronic disease to take place in your body.
	So the more you can have the right amount of good ingredients, good products, processed the least amount.
	Natural ingredients and all the vitamins and minerals you need and keeping your immunity strong, those are your biggest defenses from diseases that can enter into your body and especially with kids.
	So the earlier we can hit with them, the better we can protect them with all of the right vitamins, minerals, and products to include organic products.
	The better off we're all going to be as a society.
	Children can drink grassy too.
	It's not just an adult beverage.
	It doesn't have alcohol in it.
	I'm saying that it's not an adult beverage in the sense that you can give this to your children too.
	So if you're packing lunches for your kids and you're putting bottled water or little cartons of milk or juice, a lot of those juices that you think are healthy for your kids are loaded with sugar and they're full of high fructose corn syrup and so they're not actually good.
	I've noticed that even on the boxes that say organic.
	Sometimes at the grocery store, they're not actually organic, and they're full of sugar.
	They're full of sugar.
	Right.
	Yeah, I mean, you hit the nail on the head.
	I mean, especially for kids.
	We are a great product for kids and mothers that want to pack their children's lunches with a low-quality organic.
	You can trust because we're certified organic, but they can have a functional product for a child.
	Especially in a school system, right?
	Because if a kid, one child comes in is sick and they spread it with the rest.
	And if we could make it so their immunity is very strong and help us do that and have them go to a low sugar drink and a very low calorie drink.
	We're 35 calories, by the way.
	We did that on purpose.
	We wanted to make sure it was a low calorie drink.
	Then that addresses the obesity issue, it addresses the diabetic issue, it addresses the immunity issue, and all those things.
	So yeah, our children is an area that I think there should be a safe zone around them, but our product is very good for all members of the family, and we would really encourage that significantly.
	Absolutely.
	Well, I know that I have a lot of people who are health conscious and it's still the new year, you guys.
	So we're already in February.
	And if some of you are slacking on your New Year's resolutions or maybe you're just trying to find a better way to optimize your health or keep your families healthy, I recommend Grassi.
	We're really grateful that you're a pro-America product.
	You are not a woke company.
	You are not an anti-American company.
	You clearly support free speech because you're sponsoring Loomer Unleashed and you're helping.
	So, if you're watching right now, you guys, head on over to grassi.com.
	You can see the website here on the screen, grassi.com.
	That's G-R-A-S-I dot com.
	And you can use code LAURA20, L-A-U-R-A 20, at checkout for up to 20% off.
	Multiple flavors here.
	You can see citrus mint.
	They have cucumber, lime.
	All types of flavors here.
	Ginger flavors.
	So check it out.
	And as we said, low calorie, organic, USDA approved, low sugar.
	And again, it has your daily toast of vitamin C, vitamin D, and zinc.
	And so I wanted to bring Chris on my program tonight because Not only are we trying to make America healthy again, and that officially begins today with the confirmation of RFK Jr. as the HHS Secretary, but we also want to make sure that we are supporting the parallel economy.
	Because part of making America great again also means supporting the parallel economy.
	And one of the benefits of President Trump's tariffs and these new economic policies of the Trump administration is that it's going to start to increase competition by...
	By forcing, I mean, everybody has a choice.
	You can still buy your products overseas if you want to.
	But truly, it's better off and it's actually safer for your health and safer for your family and also safer for your pocketbook to be investing into American-made.
	American-made products, American manufacturing, and supporting American workers.
	And so that's something that I obviously support here at Loomer Unleashed, and it's why I'm really proud to have Grassi as a sponsor, because I know that I'm not supporting some foreign company in China.
	I'm not supporting the CCP with your money when you watch my show and you purchase the products on this show.
	So I just want to thank you, Chris, for coming on tonight and encourage everybody watching to check out...
	Check out your website and purchase your product, grassi.com, and use code Laura20.
	Any last words, any last comments you have for the viewers?
	No, it was a pleasure, Laura, and we appreciate what you're doing, and boy, it's going to be an exciting, you know, four years.
	It's been an exciting three weeks already, so yeah.
	It's crazy, right?
	Doesn't it feel like Trump's done more in three weeks, and Biden did in all four years.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	So imagine what's going to happen in the next three years.
	So I'm very excited and thank you very much for promoting our brand.
	We appreciate it.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	We're proud to do that.
	We're proud to support companies that aren't afraid to speak their mind and aren't afraid to actually support American manufacturing.
	Love what you're doing.
	Please keep it up.
	Appreciate it.
	Thanks so much.
	Thank you.
	Have a good night.
	Thank you.
	Have a great night.
	Wonderful.
	So, again, guys, I only promote products here on Loomer Unleash that I drink myself or I consume myself or I use myself.
	I'm not going to recommend products to you that...
	You know, our sham products.
	And so I highly recommend Grossi.
	Like I said, you've seen me drink it here live on Loomer Unleashed, and I thought that it was fitting, given the fact that we now have reciprocity tariffs, we now have tariff policies, we now have a precedent that's committed to American workers and American manufacturing, and the official Maha agenda begins today.
	today.
	So I'm really excited to see this and I'm hoping that all Americans can learn better ways to make their bodies healthier and improve their lifestyles and that we can improve nutrition and our food system and just our overall health system here in America because it is pretty sad that we're considered the wealthiest country in the world and yet so many people and so many children have diabetes and so many people are dying from heart disease and obesity in our country and it really doesn't need to be that way.
	You know, it also is a good transition into the next subject tonight, and we're going to be talking with Lindy Lee, who's going to be joining us momentarily, because I am very critical of China, and that's one of the reasons why I'm critical of Lindy Lee and why I'm happy that Lindy Lee is coming on the program tonight to address these reports, because I think that we have a lot of CCP influence in our country.
	I'm not saying that Lindy Lee is a CCP official, but I do think that we need to be weary of Of Chinese influence in our political system and our economic system.
	And I personally just find it to be suspicious that a woman who was born in China by her own admission and did fundraising for Democrat politicians and has a history of bashing President Trump is now trying to ingratiate herself in GOP circles.
	So why don't we go ahead and show some of these tweets to get this rolling to set the stage for the viewers.
	So that they can see the tweets that I was replying to.
	And you can see how, you know, we can go to Glenn Beck's Twitter account and we can go to Dinesh D'Souza's Twitter account and we can go to Benny Johnson's Twitter account and you can see firsthand, you know, how these individuals had this woman on their program and yet nobody really seems to want to ask the questions that matter.
	And we're going to do that here tonight because a lot of people have a lot of questions and I'm not afraid of rocking the boat.
	I'm not afraid of...
	Holding people accountable.
	And again, it's going to be a respectful conversation, but I think that a lot of people have some questions and they're asking themselves how you can go from calling President Trump a serial rapist just several months ago to then pretending that all of a sudden you're a member of MAGA. So let's go ahead and show some of these clips.
	You can see this is the tweet I posted yesterday.
	I asked Glenn Beck, I said, why are you promoting an obvious op, Glenn Beck?
	Lindy Lee is not who she claims to be.
	She was born in China, and now she's trying to subvert and infiltrate the GOP. Where have we seen this before?
	How do we know she doesn't have any loyalties to the CCP? See her many anti-Trump posts below.
	And we're going to ask Lindy Lee tonight if she works for the CCP, and we're going to ask her point blank if she has any affiliations or allegiances to the CCP, and I hope that we can have an honest conversation.
	Again, I'm not accusing her of anything, but we are going to have a conversation tonight about this.
	Let's go ahead and play this clip from Glenn Beck if we have it.
	Let's get it.
	People are freaking out in the Democratic Party, and they should, especially if you had anything to do with the last election.
	I mean, you know, they raised a billion dollars, and it looked like a lot of it was wasted.
	Where did that money go?
	I don't know.
	But there's somebody that has been seen on many podcasts now.
	She's a former Democratic fundraiser.
	She's still a Democrat, but she left the DNC as an insider and has become an independent thinker.
	Lindy is joining us now.
	Lindy Lee.
	Welcome, Lindy.
	It's so good to be with you.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	Now, I'm guessing that's something you never, ever thought in your life you would say.
	Good morning, Glenn Beck, you mean?
	Yeah, good morning, Glenn.
	I've watched you from afar for much of my life, so I do think it will be happening this week, though.
	You're certainly right.
	It's been a whirlwind, and I'm no longer a Democrat.
	Oh, really?
	Because I just read someplace that you haven't left the party, but you have now officially left the party?
	I have left the party, absolutely.
	This is not how I saw my year going, but the party left me with no choice.
	I just can't abide by the woke and trans insanity, not to mention the gross mismanagement of the money that I spent work so hard to raise.
	And Glenn, I hate to correct you, but it wasn't a billion.
	It was $2.5 billion because a campaign raised $1.5 billion and the super PAC, Future Forward, raised another billion.
	Where did all that money go?
	Where did it go, Lindy?
	To oligarchs, to celebrities, to five-star hotels.
	Half a million dollars is spent on putting Kamala Harris's mug On a sphere in Las Vegas.
	Obviously, that was a wise decision.
	And on mega celebrity concerts, even right down the street on the steps of the Philadelphia Art Museum.
	How many votes do you think that garnered for her?
	I would wager maybe like negative votes because people were pissed off that the traffic was snarled the entire day.
	And who puts a bill for that?
	Taxpayers, right?
	And the damage done to our community.
	And she did this in so many cities.
	Like, who thought that was a good idea?
	Actually, I know exactly who thought that was a good idea, but it was just these people are brain dead.
	We also have a clip from her appearance on Benny Johnson's show, too.
	I want to go ahead and play this clip because...
	You know, we have Lindy coming on and she's going to address these allegations.
	But she was on Benny Johnson's show and says that she's not a CCP asset and that she doesn't work for the Communist Party of China and that she's tired of people saying these things about her.
	So, again, we're going to give her an opportunity to respond tonight.
	But here's her other appearance on Benny Johnson's show.
	Justice Warriors, all of a sudden, because I dare to criticize their queen, Kamala, I'm now a Chinese spy.
	I'm a spy for the regime that murdered my family in cold blood.
	Am I allowed to curse on here?
	Please.
	Give me a fucking break.
	Seriously?
	And then we have another clip of her on Dinesh D'Souza's show because, as I said before, a lot of people are wondering why all of a sudden the GOP is having this woman on every single show.
	You know, to talk about this narrative.
	And again, this is kind of this concept of tokenization, as I said before, where the GOP, in my opinion, doesn't really do enough vetting.
	They are kind of too eager to welcome people to our side if they're willing to criticize Kamala Harris or criticize Joe Biden.
	And I personally just think that there should be more vetting and also accountability.
	Some sense of humbleness from these individuals on the left who have said atrocious things about President Trump or terrible things about the MAGA movement or about the GOP and haven't really made amends or, you know...
	Committed, as I would call, verbal reparations for their sins against MAGA. I mean, it's kind of a big deal to accuse President Trump and his supporters of being Klan members just because you don't agree with the policy platforms of the GOP. So let's go ahead and play this clip from Dinesh D'Souza.
	Democracy and, you know, opportunity for all.
	And so it seems very contradictory.
	But then beneath it all...
	You realize that they actually employ many of the same tactics that communists do.
	And what are they?
	Excommunication, public disowning, public shaming.
	And these extreme views, these extreme ideologies that you must adhere to, lest you be publicly excommunicated like I have by the party.
	Democrats are shouting slogans like freedom and democracy.
	And we now have Lindy Lee live.
	So joining me now is Lindy Lee, former, she says, former Democrat political commentator and Democrat strategist who says she has now seen the light and is now a conservative.
	So welcome to the program, Lindy.
	Thanks for coming on tonight.
	Laura, thank you so much for having me.
	Yep, it's a pleasure to have you tonight.
	Yeah, and I will say, I will say that, you know, it's not often that people who are on the other side of my criticisms or the other side of my reporting agree to come on the show.
	And so while I... As we do have ideological differences, I do respect the fact that you had the courage at least to come on the program tonight and address some of these claims and these allegations against you and some of the inconsistencies.
	And I wanted to give you an opportunity tonight to inform the viewers and inform people across the country who have You know, witness your change of tune over the last several months since the presidential election, since you've become an outspoken critic of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris,
	because we have found there to be some inconsistencies in your statements as you've gone on your media tour across the country, speaking to various conservative talk show hosts or politicians about your new political transformation.
	And so I'm hoping that we can just have an honest, open, respectful conversation.
	We have this tweet.
	We can pull it up.
	When people were commenting on your segment from Glenn Beck, you said that the Chinese Communist Party murdered my great-grandpa in cold blood.
	I condemn the CCP and have all my life, including today.
	You said I can't even speak Chinese.
	I condemn Xi Jinping.
	I'm a proud American and would die for our country.
	People are defaming me, and it breaks my mother-effing heart.
	So this is the one that really caught my attention, right?
	Because I'm aware of the fact that you ran for Congress two times, and I also ran for Congress two times as a young woman.
	I think we were both the same age when we filed to run for Congress.
	I was 25. I think you were 24 when you first filed.
	So I can relate.
	To what it's like being a young woman running for Congress.
	Well, yeah, it can be hard going up against the political establishments within your own party.
	But one thing that I always made sure when I ran for Congress is that I never told a lie and I made sure that everything that I said was backed up with receipts and that I could prove every claim that I was making, especially about my background, because it's very important that if you are running for public office, that people feel that they can trust you.
	And so I wanted to just ask you up front, you know, you said that you didn't speak Chinese.
	And yet, I've posted multiple videos of you from your time running for Congress and multiple interviews that you've done that show you speaking Mandarin, and obviously there's different dialects of Chinese, Mandarin Chinese.
	And so why did you say that you don't speak Chinese when you clearly do speak Chinese?
	I encourage, Laura, I saw the first clip.
	I don't think I saw any subsequent ones, but in terms of the first clip, I actually encourage people to watch it.
	I think I said, thank you for inviting me or thank you for having me in Chinese.
	And the rest, 99% of what I said was English.
	You could tell how deeply uncomfortable I was.
	My Chinese is at a rudimentary level.
	If you think a kindergarten level of Chinese is speaking Chinese, then fine.
	But honestly, my inability to speak Chinese has become a running family joke.
	My family, my parents especially, tease me because I'm not able to converse.
	I speak to them in English, and they speak to me in Chinese.
	I can understand them, but I can't articulate myself very well.
	It's interesting.
	It's basically Chinglish, and it's really, really bad.
	So, Laura, I stand by my statement.
	I'm not able to have a fluent conversation.
	And I saw another clip floating around, and someone spliced together a video of me speaking Chinese, but it was a two-hour event.
	And they took like the five instances of me speaking Chinese using very broken Chinese.
	And I even said, what is that word?
	It was for a very simple word.
	So I learned my lesson today.
	What I should have said is I speak shitty Chinese.
	I think the lesson in this situation is not to make broad sweeping generalizations.
	Yes, I can say, hi, how are you?
	Like, goodbye.
	Thank you for having me.
	But I cannot have an intellectual discussion with you in Chinese.
	Well, I want to play a clip for you.
	Again, you said that you speak shitty Chinese and that it's hard for you to communicate in Chinese and that you're able to have...
	Conversations.
	But then again, you said in multiple interviews that English is your second language.
	And so if English is your second language, what is your first language?
	Chinese.
	I left China when I was three to go to England, at which point I learned English and it became my language.
	Okay.
	And so I just want to play this clip.
	I want to be fair, and so I want to play the clip so that we can give the viewers full context here so that they can see the clips themselves because I don't want there to be any accusations that I'm splicing anything.
	And again, I have not edited anything.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	I understand.
	I'm just letting you know that I have not done any post-production editing on this.
	That wasn't me accusing you of anything, to be honest.
	For the sake of this conversation, I just want...
	To give you the benefit of the doubt, the only thing that I've done is put the Loomer Unleashed logo on the video, the watermark, for the sake of letting people know who posted the video.
	If we're going to post the video, can we show the whole thing, like the whole three minutes then?
	Because I only speak Chinese at the very top.
	You know that I do, right?
	And I'm just taking the state.
	This is a different video.
	So we're going to play the clip of you in an English language saying that English is your second language.
	Let's just play clip number 10 really quick.
	But we can play the full video.
	That is fine.
	We will do that.
	Play a clip number 10. We have the clip segmented from the part where you said English is your second language, but we're going to download the full clip.
	Just in the meantime, Cannon, go ahead and play clip number 10, though.
	All right.
	Thank you for inviting us, Lindy Lee, to conduct a follow-up interview with you.
	I know we met when we were down at the march for a short interview, but we didn't get a chance to...
	Fully do a follow-up, so thanks again for inviting us back.
	Thank you so much for coming, especially in the flurry of snow.
	Really appreciate it.
	No problem.
	Thanks for having us.
	I would love to begin by picking up with the story you told down at the March of your background.
	Well, I'm a first-generation immigrant.
	English is my second language.
	My family and I came here with very little, but we built something amazing out of it through hard work and determination and perseverance.
	And that's what I want to keep alive for the American people.
	If you work hard, you should be able...
	We have the full video, and I will post the full video on Twitter for people to see so that they can have the full context.
	But for the sake of the interview, because, you know, you probably don't want to be here for three hours, we are going to just continue playing the rest of the clips.
	I just want to say...
	There's no inconsistency in what I said.
	English is my second language.
	I don't take that back.
	That is the truth.
	We have another clip because you said that you speak shitty Chinese.
	So I want to go ahead and play clip number 12. Let's go ahead and play clip number 12. Newtown Square,康舟, we're not far away, right?
	Who can imagine that there are 26 children and 6 teachers will be...
	We're all the first generation, right?
	We're all the Chinese people, right?
	We're all the hard work.
	My quality, this is what I can eat.
	The beauty.
	The beauty, yes.
	Only one thing?
	Only one thing.
	Actually, you can努力.
	When you're tired, you're still going to take care of your dreams.
	When I sent you back, I'm sorry.
	We just talked about it.
	You know, we have a lot of great Chinese children.
	So I do not speak Chinese, but I think that you clearly do speak Chinese because I would say that that is a lot more than just saying hi, how are you.
	In that clip, I literally ask how do you say that word.
	That's asking how you say a word, but like I said, I speak Spanish as well, for example.
	I do speak English and Spanish, but that's a lot more.
	He spliced together five instances in which I spoke Chinese.
	And you can hear me say, you know, you could hear the English.
	But you can say, you know, but that's clearly a lot more.
	I mean, you spoke with it for at least 30 seconds, which is a lot more than just saying, you know, like, ni hao.
	30 seconds interspersed in a two-hour event.
	Laura, come on.
	No, it's not come on.
	I think that we really need to have a conversation about this because people are very critical and they should be given your past statements about President Trump and the things that you've said about the MAGA movement.
	Yes, really, because we had a problem with Chinese infiltration in our political system, and I'm not accusing you of being a CCP asset, Lindy, but when you say things like you do not speak Chinese as a defense mechanism and reply to people's criticisms of your interview with Glenn Beck, and then I find multiple clips of you speaking to Chinese...
	Speaking is broken.
	You proved my point.
	I want, like...
	You proved my point.
	The video clearly shows me struggling through the Chinese.
	I encourage people to watch it, and I encourage people to watch the first clip.
	We have another video as well.
	This is a campaign video that you put out.
	And it's three minutes long.
	You can't just show the first five seconds in which I say thank you for having me.
	I'm happy to post.
	This is a full video right here.
	You said that you don't speak Chinese.
	I showed videos of you speaking Chinese.
	This is a video, Lindy Lee for U.S. Congress, that you put out.
	And it's on your YouTube page.
	Let's go ahead and play this video.
	I didn't post this video, by the way, This is not my video, and it's not on my page.
	Saying it's not on your page.
	Yeah, this is not on my page.
	I've never seen this video in my life.
	My YouTube channel is youtube.com slash Lindy Lee.
	I don't know where you found this, but it's not mine.
	I can't hear you, Laura.
	Sorry.
	I need to pull up the video.
	Can you hear me now?
	Yeah, that's not my page.
	We're gonna pull up the page.
	This is not my page.
	I don't know who made it, but this is not me.
	It's someone impersonating me.
	The video, though, at the end has an address.
	Let's go to the address, Cannon.
	Let's go ahead and show the address.
	It said that people should make their checks payable to Lindy Lee for U.S. Congress.
	Not my address.
	That address, 924 Arch Street, is not your address?
	Not my address.
	You have not seen that address before?
	No, not my address.
	I have a lot of supporters.
	Not my address.
	I definitely don't live there.
	I don't live there.
	I'm in the middle of Center City, okay?
	It's not about whether you live there, but it's an address that...
	It triangulates to a location in Chinatown in Philadelphia.
	Laura, that's not my YouTube channel.
	I'm telling you what my YouTube channel is.
	Was it an office?
	Because I understand that you have family members who are involved in real estate from my own investigation into you and your family.
	And I would like to know, is this address either one of the addresses that you use as a campaign office, campaign facility, or is it an address that your family member or one of your relatives owns or utilizes?
	We do not own it.
	But do they rent it?
	Do they rent it?
	We might have rented it for my campaign.
	I can't remember what happened 10 years ago.
	They might have rented that place as a campaign office.
	I can't speak to that, but we don't own that address, and it's not my address.
	But it doesn't have to be your address in the sense that, you know, like my P.O. box is not like my physical property.
	Laura, I don't have nothing to do with that video.
	I have nothing to do with the slides that you just showed me.
	I can't read them.
	So you don't know whether or not when you ran for Congress, you had or rented an office at 924- Oh no, it was on Porter Street.
	But I can't speak to that additional location.
	Okay, I had many supporters around the country.
	I cannot speak to everybody who was raising money for me who was collecting checks.
	I just can't, Laura.
	I'm sorry.
	Isn't it concerning to you that there appears to be an address in Chinatown that you're not saying that your family doesn't have connections to it?
	Not concerning, but Chinatown is literally where I was running, so...
	Okay, but you're not concerned that people are accepting checks and that they have, you know, non-English language there, you know...
	Asking for money.
	As long as it's a United States citizen, it doesn't matter.
	I mean, even in the city of Philadelphia, the ballot, we have either Chinese or Spanish ballots.
	A lot of people here have Asian descent, so.
	Okay.
	And that YouTube page, this is the first time I'm seeing, I'm telling you again, my YouTube page is youtube.com slash Lindy Lee.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I just want to go through a couple questions, and I just want you to just give me honest replies, if you can, and then...
	Yeah, we'll go from there.
	What age were you when you came to the United States of America for the first time?
	Five.
	Five.
	I went to England before.
	Okay, but when you came to the United States, you're sure that it was five years old?
	Five, yeah.
	Okay, so I want to show you some statements that you've made.
	Here is your Instagram post from April 30th of 2024. That's your Instagram, correct?
	Lindy underscore Lee?
	Hey, there's a photo of you and Jill and Joe Biden.
	And you posted this on April 30th, 2024. And you said that spending time with POTUS and FLOTUS is always such a tremendous honor, especially for a proud and grateful American like me who came to our beloved country at age four with a few bucks and a world of dreams.
	Super excited to host President Joe Biden tomorrow for his first Asian-American-led fundraiser.
	As POTUS says, this is a big effing deal.
	So again, you would think that, you know, as somebody who says that you're very...
	Laura, I can't.
	I took a guess.
	But I just asked you if you were sure.
	I said, are you sure that it was five?
	And you said yes.
	I thought it was right.
	I don't know what to say to you.
	I thought I was right.
	I can't at this point remember.
	It's either 1994 or 1995, Laura.
	You got me on this one.
	I just don't know what to say.
	All right.
	We have another publication here.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	According to my research team, I just want to say that the Arch Street address that we showed up on the screen, it's an address that is tied to your family's real estate holdings.
	And so hopefully that we have the document.
	We're going to put the document up on the screen because I think it's important that we have full transparency here.
	Can you please not dox me?
	I'm not.
	Well, just make sure.
	You just said don't dox you.
	I'm not going to put any information, but if it's not your address, How would it be doxing you, right?
	So I'm just trying to Make sure.
	Well, you're saying, telling me that it's part of my family's real estate holdings.
	It's an office.
	It's an office.
	It's an office that may have been rented by your family, but you said that it wasn't a campaign office, but you're saying that you don't live there.
	So this isn't doxing because you just said moments ago that you do not.
	But you're saying that my family, it's part of our real estate holdings.
	We own a lot of real estate.
	You just said that that wasn't a campaign office.
	And so here's a document.
	But you're saying it's one of my family's real estate holdings.
	And I don't know the name.
	I don't know the address of every single real estate holding.
	So if you put it out there, people can swarm my parents, my family.
	The address is the same address as the address that I just showed before.
	It's the same exact address as in the video.
	I'm just asking you not to endanger my family.
	I'm not endangering your family, but I will say that I do have a form right here.
	It's an official campaign document.
	Canon, just show me the document right now on the screen here, please, because I will respect her wishes, but it's...
	It's an official document that says Lindy Lee for Congress, and it says that that address is the address of your mailing address.
	And so I'm looking at this document here.
	It says Lindy Lee for Congress.
	It's an FEC Form 1 revised from 2009. And the telephone number is blanked out.
	I'm going to show the document with the address because it's the same address that I just showed.
	You confirmed that you do not live there, so I feel that I'm not doxing you right now because you just confirmed that that's not your personal residence.
	So we blocked out the telephone number, but I'm going to show the form so that you can see for yourself that the address on the form is the same form in the video that I just showed you that you said isn't your campaign video, and it's...
	On an official campaign document.
	But I'm just saying that it could be associated with my parents, so you could be...
	I mean, if you really feel the need to, then go ahead.
	I already showed the address, but I'm just letting you know.
	So here it is.
	You can scroll up.
	Scroll up to the very top, please, Cannon.
	It says Lindy Lee for Congress.
	This is an official FEC form.
	It says Form 1. You can scroll down.
	Do you know an individual by the name of Richard Lee?
	That's my father.
	Okay, that's your father.
	And so as I said before, I asked you if this address that was located in Chinatown, which is affiliated with your campaign, where you said you ran for Congress, was your address.
	You said that you didn't know that address and that you had never used that address.
	And that clearly shows.
	Go back to the screen, please, Cannon.
	Let's put that up.
	It says 924 Arch Street, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Richard Lee.
	And it says that your father was the treasurer of your campaign.
	And it says Lindy Lee for Congress.
	And so, you know, you have to understand, Lindy, this is the reason why there's people out there that are questioning your intentions and whether or not, you know, you are who you say you are.
	My family owns a lot of real estate.
	I know, I just, I told you, I've done my research, trust me.
	I know your family owns a lot of research because I know that you were operating out of an address out of Chinatown, which I just showed you, which you denied profusely.
	But that wasn't our campaign office.
	Well, what is that address then?
	It's on your official FEC document for Lindy Lee for Congress.
	Something West Porter.
	That's the address of the treasurer.
	That was the treasurer form.
	Our campaign was located on West Porter Street or something.
	So you don't know where your parents live?
	I'm definitely not going to tell you where my parents live, but they don't even live in the city.
	They don't live in Philadelphia.
	Right, so you just confirmed.
	I'm just trying to understand your logic here because you're saying that I'm going to potentially dox your family.
	It's really not that complex.
	That was the address of the treasurer.
	That might have been the office my dad was using at the time.
	My parents don't live in the city.
	They live somewhere else.
	So then your father, that video that I posted, your father then was accepting contributions in Chinese language.
	From that video I showed you, asking people to send checks to that address that is listed on an official FEC form for your campaign.
	As long as they're American citizens, what's wrong with that?
	Well, I think you can understand why people are questioning why somebody running for office is soliciting campaign contributions in Chinese.
	I wasn't.
	Some of my supporters were.
	I can't speak to what everyone is doing.
	But as long as they're American citizens, that's to be encouraged.
	Everyone should be able to participate in democracy.
	And we were very careful to vet all of our donors.
	Okay, we'll get into that as well, because I want to give you the benefit of the doubt.
	So you said that you came here when you were, you said five, and then I showed you in your own Instagram post.
	Let's go back to the Instagram post.
	You said four.
	We have an interview that you did.
	For a publication, it says, meet the youngest ever female congressional candidate.
	Let's get this article up on the screen, please.
	From March 12, 2016. And it says that Lee, who is running as a Democrat, moved to the United States with her parents when she was five years old.
	Do you see that?
	Yeah, so I'm like not clear.
	I'm actually not even clear whether it's four or five.
	I have to ask my mom.
	Okay.
	Well, we have another one, too.
	Let's go to the other graphic where you said that you were six years old.
	Let's go to this one.
	No, that's definitely not true.
	I have nothing to do with this article, by the way.
	This article is false.
	There are a number of inaccuracies.
	I definitely came to America when I was either four or five, definitely not six, definitely not six, and I don't speak fluent Mandarin.
	They never interviewed me for this article, and I have nothing to do with it.
	Okay.
	Well, again, like I said, I'm asking you questions because...
	I've done my own research, and so if that's what you say, you know, you're saying that you were not interviewed and that there are inconsistencies?
	Okay, but I... Laura, you have a lot of articles written about you, too.
	Yeah, no, I understand that, but I also asked you, point blank, what age you came here, and you said five, and then I looked at your Facebook post, and you said four.
	I don't remember whether it's four or five.
	I don't know why it's that important to you.
	I just don't remember.
	It's so long ago.
	I don't remember.
	It's either four or five.
	Okay.
	Next question.
	Are you familiar?
	It's okay.
	So are you familiar with an organization and a company called IDG Capital?
	No.
	You're not?
	No.
	Okay.
	Do you know a man by the name of Quan Zhu?
	Definitely not.
	Okay.
	Well, just about a minute and 30 seconds ago, you told me when I was asking you why you were accepting contributions from people in Chinese and why you were allowing for people to send out solicitations in Chinese.
	You said that you took it upon yourself to do extreme vetting on all your donors to make sure that everybody who was giving you money was doing so ethically and legally.
	Are you aware?
	Let's show this FEC record here.
	This is an FEC record from, let's get it up on the screen.
	Get it up on the big screen.
	Here we go.
	So, Lindy, what we're looking at here, this is a Schedule A FEC Form 3, and as you can see here, it says Kwanzu.
	I just asked you if you know a guy by the name of Kwanzu.
	You said no.
	And you can scroll down.
	Keep scrolling down.
	Scroll down some more.
	Okay, exit out of this form.
	Just exit out of it.
	Just exit out.
	The form there, Lindy, shows that an individual by the name of Kwanzu gave you a max contribution for $2,700.
	Again, these are all publicly available documents for people to see.
	No, but just exit out of it.
	Just exit out of it because we want to make sure that we focus on this content here.
	I want to make sure that we're not here for three hours tonight because I'm sure Lindy has other things to do.
	You said that you didn't know who Kwon Zu is, but Kwon Zu is a co-managing member of IDG Capital, and you said that you weren't familiar with what IDG Capital is.
	Let's go ahead and get the next graphic for IDG Capital up on the screen, please.
	Here we go.
	This is Kwon Zu.
	Okay.
	This is the first time I'm seeing him.
	Okay.
	You're saying this is the first time you're seeing him.
	Let's go to the other graphic.
	I also raised it close to a million dollars, so I... Let's go to the other graphic with the highlighted, the yellow portion on it.
	Canon?
	Yep.
	Let's put that up on the screen.
	Okay, here.
	Okay, this is the first time I'm learning about this.
	Okay.
	Well, you told me that you took extreme caution with your donors to make sure that you were accepting money.
	Ten years ago, Laura.
	I don't know how much of this has been since then.
	I ran for Congress a long time ago, too, but I didn't take money from people who are tied to the CCP. I don't even know if this happened during the ten years since I ran for Congress.
	Laura...
	I mean, I'm being fair to you.
	You didn't raise a million dollars, though.
	I checked your numbers and you raised over about $600,000.
	That's not a million dollars.
	That's about $400,000 short.
	We have the FEC records here to show you did not raise a million dollars.
	I ran for Congress and I raised over a million dollars.
	And you do not round up $600,000 to a million dollars.
	There's an extra $400,000.
	So my point is, is that you raised a little over $600,000.
	You did not raise a million dollars.
	And we have the records.
	The reason I ask you is because I ask you whether or not you know, Kwanzu, you said no.
	Generally, when somebody gave me a $2,700 max donation, I would call them.
	The proper thing to do if you are a fundraiser, as you say you are, is to have proper donor relations, which means that you generally thank the donors who write a max donation check to you because you want to see whether or not those donors are capable of giving larger contributions so that you can directly Or perhaps they may want to host events for you.
	At least that's what I did when I had donors that gave me max donations.
	And so it says here that you accepted a $2,700 max donation from KwanZoo.
	And let's put that graphic back up with the highlighted yellow text there.
	You can see here it says that the NCSC emphasized the Chinese.
	Let's zoom out a little bit so everybody can see the full graphic.
	Okay, Says that the NCFC emphasized that Chinese venture capital has been focusing on U.S. emerging tech sectors with IDG Capital, a Chinese military designated investment firm, having invested in over 1600 businesses, including in the having invested in over 1600 businesses, including in the United States.
	And so, you know...
	You say that you condemn the CCP and that you're not affiliated with the CCP and that, you know, you don't speak Chinese.
	How do you know that this didn't happen sometime in the 10 years that I ran for Congress?
	Like, how do I even, how do we even know that?
	Because, because you said moments ago when I asked you about individuals who have affiliations with China accepting money for your campaign that you did vetting and that you knew who was giving you money.
	I'm just saying, but how do you know that this development with the company or whatever didn't happen sometime in the, like, I just, this is the first time I'm even learning about this.
	I have no idea who the guy is.
	I just have no idea who he is.
	I don't know what to tell you.
	Okay, well, I'm telling you who he is.
	He is a co-managing member.
	I have nothing to do with him.
	Okay, well, I'm letting you know.
	I mean, during my campaign, I escoused Taiwanese independence.
	I don't know what you want from me.
	I fucking hate China.
	I fucking hate Xi Jinping.
	What do you want me to do?
	What do you want me to do?
	I denounce China.
	I would die for America.
	Like, fuck China.
	Fuck the CCP. What do you want from me?
	I'm just letting you know that this individual, in case...
	The reason why there's people out there that have suspicions...
	And I want nothing to do.
	He's not going to ever come close to me again.
	I have nothing to do with these people.
	What do you want me to do?
	Do you want me to shout from the mountaintops that the CCP is bad?
	I do.
	I think Xi Jinping is a piece of shit.
	He should go to hell.
	Like, what do you want me to do?
	Laura, I'm on your side.
	Why are you fighting me so hard?
	I don't know this dude.
	Well, I'm just showing receipts here.
	And by the way, I'm not taking anything away from you.
	I'm not demanding anything.
	I don't want to get close to Trump.
	I don't want a job in the government.
	I wouldn't work in the government for a million dollars.
	People close to me, they understand that.
	I don't want nothing to do with this.
	I just like politics.
	I like talking about it.
	I don't know why.
	Honestly, Laura, I don't want anything from you.
	I'm not trying to take anything from you.
	We can coexist.
	We both want the same thing right now.
	I don't know about that.
	You don't think so?
	Where do we diverge?
	We diverge on a lot of things.
	I mean, look, I would not...
	Do you still think that President Trump is a serial rapist?
	No, and I apologized a few hours ago for that.
	I've been apologizing for the past few months, too.
	I went on David...
	I actually don't know his last name.
	Do you know who I'm talking about?
	A huge influencer named David?
	I don't know.
	What's his last name?
	I just went on his show today.
	Viva Frey?
	Mm-hmm.
	I just went on a show a couple hours ago, and I apologize for that tweet, and I apologize again.
	I was wrong.
	I bought into the mainstream narrative.
	I just did.
	I believed it.
	And when I realized that they blew $2.5 billion, actually not a billion, $2.5 billion, that was a catalyst for me to reexamine everything else.
	I just bought into it.
	In my life, NBC News, ABC News, CBS, all of these outlets, they were the gold standard.
	You know, I wasn't, this is just what I, it's just what I was learning, what I was taught, so.
	All right, I have another question for you.
	What is your relationship with Richard Bloom?
	Oh, I met him at a climate change dinner in Dublin on May something, 2013. It was with Mary Robinson, who was president of Ireland at that time, and he offered me a ride home.
	Actually, he asked me, like, do you need a ride home?
	And I was like, do you have your own mode of transportation?
	And he flew me home on his private jet.
	And we became friends.
	And that's it.
	I became friends with his daughter.
	And that's it.
	He donated to my campaign.
	Did you become friends with his wife?
	No.
	She did endorse me for Congress, though.
	You know who his wife is, correct?
	His wife?
	Yes.
	And who is his wife?
	Dianne Feinstein.
	And you're going to mention the Chinese spy that she once hired?
	I have nothing to do with that.
	Well, of course I'm going to mention that.
	I'm going to mention it.
	I just wanted to know if you were aware.
	I'm shocked that she didn't know.
	I wanted to know how long you've known, how long you knew Richard Bloom and how long you...
	2013 at that dinner.
	2015?
	2013 at that dinner.
	2013. 2013. Okay.
	And so you said that Dianne Feinstein endorsed you.
	We verified that.
	She did.
	Have you ever accepted any money from Dianne Feinstein or Richard Bloom?
	Yes.
	I just mentioned a few seconds ago he donated to my campaign a few times.
	I just want to see, you know, how honest you're going to be because there have been some inconsistencies in your statements.
	We have confirmed it.
	Lori, that's why I'm asking you, because I want to see how you are going to respond.
	And that is true.
	You did accept a max contribution from Diane Feinstein's husband, Richard Bloom.
	And I just wanted to know you, but you said that he flew you back on his private jet.
	Were you aware of the time when you accepted a financial contribution from Richard Bloom that he made majority of his money, his multi-million dollar fortune that he had to pay for that private jet by engaging in business with...
	Companies that are directly tied to the Chinese Communist Party.
	No, because he told me that he hated the regime and he's a staunch advocate for Tibet.
	That's not true because, as you know, anybody who truly is outspoken against the CCP and the regime is not able to do business in China or with CCP affiliates and vendors.
	I'm very pro-Taiwan.
	I'm very pro-Tibet.
	I've received a lot of flack from Chinese Americans for being so vocally anti-CCP over the years, but it's something that I've continually done, and I even did it five years ago on Fox.
	I was part of an anti-socialism documentary.
	I've been very vocal about this throughout my adult life, Laura.
	This is just me, okay?
	So I don't know what you're trying...
	I understand, like, you're just trying to get to the bottom of it, and I appreciate you being very open and transparent, but I... I was under the impression that he was pro-Tibet.
	I know he donated a lot of money to Tibetan causes, and that's how we initially bonded.
	That's how we bonded with Richard Gere.
	That's how I met Richard Gere, because we're both anti-China.
	And Richard Blum introduced me to Richard Gere.
	And this is just the truth.
	This is just the truth.
	And honestly, for someone like me to condemn the CCP, which I've done again and again, it means more, given my background, given the fact that they murdered my great-grandfather.
	My father has received a lot of flack for being very anti-CCP on a thing called WeChat.
	But he's done it again and again.
	I think I get my rebellious streak from him.
	Yeah, I'm happy to, I want to, throughout my life, to do whatever I can for the United States to dominate China.
	I'm almost jingoistic in my allegiance to this country.
	All right.
	Well, I want to ask you now about your previous comments, because there has to be some clarity and there has to be some understanding about previous statements that you have made now that you are all of a sudden coming out criticizing, criticizing Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
	So here we have a tweet from you that you posted in September of 2022.
	You said that New York Attorney General Tish James will make a major announcement tomorrow at 1030 a.m.
	She just rejected a settlement offer from the crooks at the Trump org.
	Don't mess with Tish.
	Don't mess with Fannie Willis.
	Don't mess with Cheney.
	Our ladies are about to torch Trump's ass.
	Why?
	Why did you support the lawfare against President Trump and the weaponization of government carried out by Tish James and Fannie Willis, who herself was found to have acted improperly by having a sexual affair with one of the individuals who was appointed to President Trump's Rika case?
	Wait, is that what you mean Fannie Willis, right?
	We're talking about Fonnie Willis.
	Yeah, so you're saying in this tweet...
	Who are we talking about here?
	Are we talking about Tish James?
	We're talking about all of them.
	I just read your tweet to you.
	Oh, yeah.
	Don't mess with Tish.
	Don't mess with Fonnie.
	Don't mess with Chaney.
	So do you still support Tish James, Fonnie Willis, and Liz Chaney?
	No, I don't.
	I bought into it.
	I'm sorry.
	I just did.
	I bought into it.
	And over the past year, actually, you can even see there's...
	Lori, you're all about research.
	In July of 2024, I went on Fox, and I said that I was conservative.
	There's an article.
	Please have your staff look it up.
	It's there.
	I said, this has been a year-long change for me, and I only felt comfortable to be who I am after the election, and certainly after I realized that they squandered all the money that we raised.
	But I just bought into the mainstream narrative.
	It never occurred to me to challenge it in any way.
	This is just how I was.
	Right?
	You read the New York Times, you read the Washington Post and all these publications, you think that they have to be right.
	I have no other way of phrasing it.
	It's just the dominant narrative.
	It's not just you buying into the media and what they said.
	You repeated this, too.
	So here's another post you made in January of 2023. You said, Raging homophobe Matt Schlapp was caught groping a man.
	Christian Marjorie Taylor Greene was caught cheating with a tantric sex guru.
	Brother in Christ Matt Gaetz was caught sex trafficking girls.
	Evangelical hero Trump is a serial rapist.
	Hypocrisy is the hallmark of the GOP. I mean, obviously, you know, you can say that you fell victim to the media all you want, but there has to be some discernment.
	I mean, you ran for Congress, and so, you know, what does it say about you as somebody who ran for Congress that you want to stand by what statement?
	I'm not entirely clear on what's going on with Matt Gaetz.
	I'm not completely sold that he's...
	This, you know, saint.
	I'm just not.
	So I still reserve.
	My judgment is still out there.
	It's pending on Matt Gaetz.
	The only thing you got right in that tweet, I will say, to be fair, is the part about Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	She was caught cheating.
	What did I say?
	The part about Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	She was.
	She was caught cheating with a tantric sex guru, which is why her relationship with her husband failed.
	With all due respect, I just do.
	I don't think he's been...
	Cleared.
	Even other Republicans, like Kevin McCarthy, is skeptical of that case, so I still stand by what I said.
	You're in the Republican Party.
	You'll learn quickly that we don't really care about what Kevin McCarthy thinks.
	Here's another tweet that you posted.
	Well, I'm so proud about him.
	I'm happy to.
	The tone, Laura, the only thing I can say is I deeply regret my Vitriolic tone.
	I deeply do.
	I don't know what else to tell you.
	I'm just here humbly coming to you and telling you that I regret it.
	And I know I have a lot to prove, and I'm going to do the work.
	I'm already working with RNC to raise money for the midterms.
	And I'm doing what I can, but I'm not- Who at the RNC are you working with?
	Casey Crosby.
	She's wonderful.
	She's a sweetheart.
	So are you saying then, live on the show, that Michael Watley has signed off on you working with the RNC to raise money for the party?
	I haven't worked with Michael Watley.
	But he's the head of the RNC, and so in order for anybody...
	Yeah, but in order for somebody to do work with the RNC, it has to be signed off by Michael Watley.
	And by the way, I'm not a hire.
	I'm volunteering my efforts.
	Okay.
	I've never been hired for any of this, by the way.
	I've never been paid a single penny.
	So you're not getting any kind of commission for doing fundraising for the RNC? Absolutely not.
	I'm a donor, Laura.
	Like, I donate, by definition.
	I donate my money.
	I donated buildings and a church to the Harris campaign.
	I donated it.
	I didn't get anything in return for that.
	And what's the legality on that?
	So how was that done?
	Was it an in-kind contribution?
	They told me they documented it.
	I even urged them.
	I have a paper trail urging them.
	I was like, you need to fill out this in-kind contribution.
	We're accepting a nominal rate, a market value, you know.
	Yeah, because I saw that you and your family donated multiple buildings for use for the Kamala Harris campaign.
	And so I was wondering that because as somebody who ran for Congress myself, I know that that doesn't need to be documented as an in-kind contribution.
	So it'll be interesting to see if they...
	Yeah, if they didn't though, Laura...
	That's on them, not me.
	I flagged that for them.
	I even tweeted about it.
	So, to be clear, it's the candidate's responsibility.
	Here's another post.
	Hugely disappointed in...
	Hugely disappointed the Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg seemed to be dropping the Trump case and two top prosecutors resigned in protest.
	Wealth and power should not be above the law.
	Was Bragg pressured?
	He has a lot to answer for just two months into office when it obscene dereliction of duty.
	Do you still believe that?
	Yeah, but I just want to know because, you know, we still need to know whether or not you still stand by any of these statements because there's a lot of them.
	No, I don't.
	I just don't.
	And so you don't support Alvin Bragg anymore is what you're saying.
	I've learned more about the dude and I realized that out of the four indictments, it was the flimsiest and he still decided to pursue it.
	And I can't speak to...
	I'm not a lawyer, and I can't pretend that I have legal expertise that I don't have.
	But the documents case, the Stormy Daniels case, really seems to be lawfare.
	That particular one.
	You don't think that the others, like Fannie Willis' case, or the case with...
	Oh my God!
	Her behavior is the biggest, this century's biggest self-own.
	I'm sickened.
	You know, our party...
	Well, my former party hailed her as some hero, and she ended up sleeping with a guy that she hired.
	I mean, it could not get worse.
	All right.
	I mean, it's just disgusting.
	I have no other words about that.
	Let's see.
	We have another one.
	You said that you thought that the Stormy Daniels case was lawfare.
	Here's a post you said.
	You said Trump held a funeral.
	Or Trump had to pay for sex, including with Stormy Daniels.
	He had to pay an auto shop $20,000 to stand with him for a fake union rally.
	He had to pay hush money to bury his crimes.
	He had to renegotiate his prenup with Melania so she wouldn't leave him.
	This loser is your savior.
	Laura.
	I'm just wondering, because I just want to know.
	There's a lot of these statements, and so, you know, there's a lot of people that know that to be a part of the movement.
	But you have to understand that I was a Democratic influencer.
	It was kind of my job to do this.
	Were you paid to tweet these things?
	No, I wasn't.
	How was it your job, though?
	It was my identity.
	It was what I knew.
	It was my community, my group of friends, all of whom I lost, by the way.
	I burned every single bridge.
	So I don't know.
	People say I'm a mole.
	Who am I a mole for?
	Certainly not the CCP. Certainly not the Democrats who think I'm a cunt and a whore.
	Who am I? This is just me.
	Have you been back to China since you came as a child?
	Yes, since 2014. And in 2017 when my grandfather died.
	And my grandmother is dying right now, but I'm not able to go back.
	How did you get into China in 2014 and 2017 if you've always been an advocate for...
	You said you're an advocate for...
	Well, that's why I just graduated college.
	We're around the same age.
	At that time, I was pretty much a kid.
	I attended an HSBC program, a leadership program through Princeton.
	That was 2014, 2017. Right, but you had said that you've been critical of the CCP because you said that they killed some of your family members.
	Right.
	And so I'm just wondering.
	At that point, I was 23 years old.
	Yeah, but when you're critical of the CCP, they don't allow you back into the country.
	So how did you get back in?
	I just graduated from college.
	At that point, I was still in the finance world.
	I was working for Morgan Stanley in 2014. So I was not in politics.
	I was definitely not vocal about that.
	I wasn't vocal about anything until I quit Morgan Stanley.
	But what I'm saying is if they killed your family, right?
	And obviously China still has a CCP. They killed my great-grandfather.
	They killed my great-grandfather.
	Great-grandfather.
	Okay, so you're saying that it's your great-grandfather because you said before that it's your grandfather.
	No, I never said it was my grandfather.
	Never said it was my grandfather.
	I would not mess that up.
	My grandfathers are dead, but not for that reason.
	All right.
	Well, fact check it because...
	It's true.
	Great-grandfather.
	If someone else said grandfather, they made a mistake, but I said great-grandfather.
	My parents can attest to that.
	It's...
	My brother, I mean, it's out there.
	Fox News even reported on this five years ago.
	It's my great-grandfather.
	I'm just wondering, because oftentimes, you know, even if you're just critical or you say anything bad about Xi Jinping, like they had a college student that made a comment about Xi Jinping here in America, and he was jailed upon his return to China.
	And so I just find it interesting that you are critical.
	Even though my grandmother is currently dying, she's 96 years old, this has caused me immense pain.
	I call her on FaceTime every night because I can't go back, and I'm sorry.
	And she doesn't, she's...
	Unfortunately, senile at this point, but I can't explain to her that I just cannot go back.
	And she keeps asking, like, am I going to see you?
	And I just can't.
	I just can't risk being detained or what have you.
	And I also don't want the blowpack of the CCP Association.
	It's a very difficult situation.
	I also want to remind you guys, you know, the situation wasn't as bad in 2014. Like, the relationship wasn't great, but it wasn't like this.
	It's in tatters now.
	So I, you know, in 2017, it wasn't even so bad.
	Now it's just like a Cold War.
	All right.
	Let's show some of these other posts.
	Laura, just as a rule.
	Yes?
	If it's anti-Trump, I'm sorry for it and I regret it.
	Like, as a rule, we could go through each one, but I could also just tell you...
	Every single statement.
	We're going through all the tweets all night?
	Yeah, I mean, we're going to go through them.
	I think that...
	How long are we going to be here, by the way?
	Can you at least tell me?
	Maybe like another 20 minutes or so.
	I wanted to give you an opportunity to go through.
	I mean, you deleted a lot of the tweets.
	I mean, I saw that Mike Cernovich, for example, was retweeting a lot of your tweets yesterday.
	I had to delete them because they were storing my page.
	It wasn't because I was trying to hide it, but they were blowing up my page and I was getting abuse.
	Well, I'm giving you an opportunity right now to go through all of them.
	And I found all of them.
	I spent an enormous amount of time with my research team looking for all these tweets.
	So you have another one here from...
	August of 2020, and you said that's breaking New York Attorney General to make a major national announcement tomorrow.
	Retweet if you're hoping and praying for consequences for Trump.
	Just want to get your thoughts on that as well.
	This is five years ago?
	Okay.
	Yeah, five years ago.
	I don't know what to tell you.
	I'm sorry for it.
	I'm sorry for it.
	Here's another one.
	December 2021. Trump will soon be indicted for racketeering in New York.
	His Pulitzer winning prize journalist David Clay Johnston.
	Today he rages that all the Dems want to do is lock people up.
	No dump.
	We want to lock up tax cheating, genocidal maniacs like you, your criminal family, and insurrectionists.
	Do you still think that President Trump and his supporters are criminals and insurrectionists?
	No.
	I just want to say in the past couple weeks since I've been exposing the Democrats, the letters that I've gotten from Trump supporters have been unbelievable.
	My mom has been so afraid for me.
	Not because of the Republicans, actually.
	We've gotten death threats from both sides, but we've gotten most of the death threats from Democrats.
	And I have pointed to the letters that I've gotten from Republicans.
	I'm like, Mama, it's going to be okay.
	You know, we're going to be fine.
	And so I've gotten so much kindness from Trump supporters, and I never would have guessed that this would happen.
	This has been...
	Laura, this is not...
	I'm just going to be very upfront with you.
	Today was one of the worst days of my life.
	I haven't slept much in the past two or three days.
	And some people might think that I'm exaggerating or whatever, but I spent the majority of my day, and you could see it because in the interview with David, I was sprawled on my bedroom floor in my pajamas.
	I was wrong to criticize Trump.
	But I am not a traitor of my country.
	Honestly, I'd rather you call me a cunt than a traitor.
	I love my country.
	I would be nowhere without it.
	I met the people I love most here.
	America has given me everything I have.
	My education, the opportunities.
	I would die for this country.
	That's just the truth.
	I have nothing.
	I can repeat it over and over again, but this is the truth.
	And that's great.
	I mean, look, I think it's nice that you'll say something like that, but the reality is that, you know, a lot of harm has been done in this country by people like you who have...
	Not thought for themselves.
	I mean, you say that you were captivated or somehow hypnotized by the Democrat Party and hypnotized by all these talking points.
	But at what point in time does there have to be some level of accountability?
	I mean, you ran for Congress and you're bragging about how you raised money.
	Why should anybody take you seriously going forward as a political commentator when you've lived majority of your life not thinking for yourself?
	I thought I was thinking.
	I went to a very extremely liberal university right as Obama was elected in 2008. I was there my freshman year.
	He got elected president for the first time.
	We were captivated by the hope and change era.
	I even just got an email today from one of my former classmates saying, like, I understand where you're coming from.
	All the Republicans were in hiding at school because it was reprehensible to be a Republican.
	My university was a liberal bastion and I ended up living in the city of Philadelphia where the voter registration is 1-7 or 1-8.
	I don't know which one it is.
	For me, being a Republican wasn't even an option until my hand was forced.
	I counted myself as a conservative Democrat, as a moderate Democrat.
	I went to war with the Bernie bros five years ago.
	That was my public debut almost, going to war with the leftists, saying I would never vote for Bernie Sanders.
	I have a record for going after leftists.
	You know, that's why I supported Joe Biden, because he was the best option for me, but then he pulled a bait and switch.
	He ran as a moderate as this, like, Joe, you know, Scranton Joe, blue-collar guy.
	That's what I supported.
	I did not support the woke trans insanity, and I never, never did I support.
	You could go through my tweets, and Lori, I'm sure you've read all of them at this point, right?
	You never saw me saying once that I support the trans nonsense, right?
	No, but what I did see is that you said that for years you knew that Joe Biden was not running the show, but you continued to support him.
	So if you knew that Joe Biden was mentally incapacitated and you knew that Joe Biden was not who he was claiming to be because he was seriously suffering from cognitive decline, why did you continue to enable Joe Biden?
	I did what I could.
	Laura, I did what I could given the constraints.
	It's so hard to come out of the cult.
	I've paid such a heavy price.
	I've lost all of my friends.
	Do you see that?
	I've lost all my friends.
	I have one friend left.
	I have one friend left in this world.
	He's not in the public sphere.
	I don't...
	I'm sorry, I can't.
	Do you think, though, that people should question your integrity given the fact that you've taken money from CCP affiliates?
	You deny that you are a CCP asset.
	No, you did, though.
	You took money.
	You took a maximum campaign donation from Richard Bloom.
	Oh, Richard Bloom?
	I didn't know.
	Everybody knew about Dianne Feinstein's husband.
	She's been, she was one of the oldest senators.
	I mean, she literally died in the United States Senate.
	Okay, so you can't tell me that nobody knew about this.
	There are photos of me with Richard Gere, who's extremely pro to that.
	He got blackballed in Hollywood for being anti-China.
	But I don't care about, I don't care about people like that.
	I'm talking about the fact that you...
	That's how he connected.
	It has to matter here, Laura.
	You took money from Dianne Feinstein's husband.
	I initially bonded.
	I started with Richard Blum over the Tibet issue.
	And that's why he introduced me to Richard Gere.
	That's why it's important.
	Okay?
	I'm on the record being pro-Taiwan, being pro-Tibet.
	Being anti-China.
	I don't know what you want.
	I will repeat it again and again.
	I'm anti-China.
	I hate the Chinese regime.
	I think they're odious.
	You can understand why people would question your integrity, given the fact that there's a lot of people.
	There's a lot of people I know and I like, but I would never take a contribution from them because I know as a candidate.
	He even had photos of the Dalai Lama on his plane.
	That was the image that he conveyed.
	I guess he bamboozled everybody.
	What industry did Richard Blum tell you that he was in when you flew on his private jet with him?
	Private equity.
	When you were flying on his private jet, you didn't question what type of private equity?
	No, we watched Las Blancas the entire time.
	Well, just so you know, I mean, now, I mean, I hope that I've been able to educate you throughout this interview.
	The private equity that Richard Blum was involved in was financing companies tied to the Chinese military, the Chinese Communist Party and their military.
	So that's basically...
	This is the first time I'm learning this.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm letting you know that that's...
	And he's dead.
	He died like...
	Yeah, but you still took his money, though, and you took his wife's money.
	And she had a Chinese spy driving her for 20 years.
	Laura, I have nothing to do with that.
	I just, I have nothing.
	You're trying to guilt me.
	I'm respectfully, you're trying to taint me by association.
	I have nothing to do with that.
	I'm not tainting you by association because you already, you flew on the private jet of somebody who was in business, who was in, who was in the business of financing CCP military companies.
	So I don't need to get you.
	I'm telling you again, respectfully, that we bonded over our anti-China, pro-Tibetan ties.
	He is a huge Dalai Lama fan.
	He even wrote a book about the Dalai Lama.
	And so that was the type of person I thought he was.
	He published a book about this.
	Well, there's another book that's been published by a friend of mine by the name of Peter Schweitzer.
	It's called Red-Handed, How American Elites Get Rich Helping China Win.
	So I want to send you a copy of this book so that you can further educate yourself on the CCP associations with the politicians that you spent years either fundraising for or aligning yourselves with so that going forward, you are fully aware of who in the Democrat Party and who you yourself have taken money from is affiliated with and does Laura, I'd love to work with you on anti-CCP initiatives, if you're willing.
	Because I think it would mean a lot coming from someone like me, don't you think?
	Especially since I was born there?
	Look, I'm more of a lone wolf in the sense that I'm not a policymaker.
	I'm an independent journalist.
	What I'm seeing is our interests on this particular issue, they're aligned.
	You want the same thing?
	You want the demise of the CCP, do you not?
	Well, I want the demise of the CCP, but I personally think that it would be a lack of judgment on my part to engage in a partnership with somebody who took money from a CCP affiliate.
	And so I understand that now that you're apologizing for that and you're saying that he regretted it.
	This is the first time I'm learning that he had CCP ties because, as I mentioned, he wrote a book praising the Dalai Lama.
	He told me that he hated the Chinese regime for what they did to the Dalai Lama.
	We're both pro-Taiwan I just find it very interesting that you were involved in Democrat Party media and fundraising, and it's the first time you're hearing about this.
	And I'm not trying to beat you up.
	I genuinely just want to educate you on this so that you never again have to go on another right-wing podcast and say, this is the first time I'm hearing this.
	So I'm going to have my producer pull this up.
	Cannon, please put this article up on the screen because this is not new information.
	It's not something that is new.
	Okay, my campaign was in 2015. Okay, but still, this has been ongoing for years.
	Dianne Feinstein is one of the longest-serving Democrat senators in the United States Senate, and her husband's ties to the CCP and her own ties to the CCP, given the fact that she was the first mayor, when she was mayor of San Francisco, the first U.S. mayor to travel to China and call for a joint U.S.-China relationship.
	She refused to call out China for mass human rights violations because her husband was getting rich off of doing Well, I'm happy to call out the Chinese regime for all of their mass human rights violations for everything that they're doing, for the Uyghurs and everything and their aggressions against Taiwan.
	I'm happy to do it.
	I just want you to see this.
	I just want to show you this because you're saying this is the first time I knew about this.
	That was seven years after my campaign.
	That's fine, but this was mentioned because she died.
	That's the reason why the story came out.
	And because she was exposed for having a Chinese spy.
	I'm not friends with her, by the way.
	I've never been friends with her.
	She gave you a max donation.
	She gave you a max donation.
	Hopefully their names are on the check.
	I just want to be clear.
	She endorsed me because her husband probably asked her to.
	But my relationship was with Richard, not Diane.
	All right, well, just please get the article up on the screen so that we can show everybody what we're referring to here, so that they can see all these receipts.
	Scroll up to the top.
	Just so that you're aware of the people that you took money from.
	Okay, I have nothing to do with this.
	Okay, I'm letting you know who these people are, who you took money from, and the reason why so many people are questioning your allegiances.
	This guy has donated to probably every Democrat, to be honest.
	So I guess the job is to condemn the entire party because Richard Blum was known as one of the most prolific Democratic donors in the country, right?
	The billionaire.
	That's also why the Democrat Party has a China problem.
	They do.
	They certainly do.
	Have a China problem.
	I'm not denying that.
	And that's one of the reasons why I left.
	All right.
	Well...
	You know, I've asked you a lot of questions tonight, and I think that it's been a pretty respectful conversation.
	And I've shown the videos, and I've shown you statements that you have made that contradict other public statements.
	And so I just want to say that I appreciate you coming on my program tonight to answer these questions.
	But I also just hope that you understand that...
	Just because you deny these things now doesn't mean that everybody in the Republican Party should be willing to work with you, feel comfortable working with you, and be accepting of you.
	There are terrible things that are still on the internet that you've said, and it's going to take a lot more than you just going on TV and going on interviews and saying that you don't like Joe Biden and that you think that they misspent their campaign funds for people to truly believe the things that are coming out of your mouth.
	I completely understand that.
	I'm willing to do the work.
	And I'm not trying to usurp anybody.
	Honestly, it's really healing for me to talk about what happened to me with that call because this has been traumatizing.
	It really helps me to just vocalize it.
	But I understand that I have a lot of work to do with you and others in the Republican Party.
	I'm not looking for anything, not looking for a gig or a job or anything.
	I just want to make sure that the Democratic Party is never in power again.
	That's really my aim.
	All right.
	Any last comments or any last thoughts that you have for the viewers tonight, Lindy?
	I just want to apologize to you for blocking you.
	I'm going to unblock you right after this.
	Honestly, it was because you have so many followers.
	Every time you tweet about me or quote retweet me, I would get flooded.
	Well, I'll be honest with you.
	I actually, the first time I ever posted about you was around the inauguration weekend when I saw that you were on the inaugural committee.
	Yeah, and then my account was swarmed.
	But I was blocked.
	That's another thing, though.
	I'm in a dispute because I was blocked before I ever tweeted at you.
	And I found it to be bizarre that I was blocked even though I had never interacted with you.
	Did you reply to me?
	No, I had never engaged.
	I had never replied to you and I had been blocked without ever interacting with you.
	I wonder what happened.
	I could have sworn you replied to me.
	Maybe.
	I don't know what happened, but every time you tweet about me, I get flooded.
	I'm going to unblock you now, and I'm sorry that I did.
	All right.
	I want to go to the chat really quick before you sign off tonight.
	I want to see if any of my viewers have any questions for you.
	I want to see if you have any questions for Lindy before she signs off tonight.
	Let me know.
	Put it in the chat.
	We'll take a couple questions.
	We'll take two to three questions.
	Let's see.
	Laura, did you see the meme about how the Democrats took Laura Loomer and the Republicans got Lindy Lee and they did the switch?
	Did you see that meme?
	No, I haven't seen it.
	Because you went against Elon Musk.
	And they love you for that.
	I haven't seen it.
	Let me go back to the chat really quick.
	There is a question about, okay, they want to know, Flying Storm wants to know, are you kin to the founder of Lee Labs?
	No, you got to understand there are like millions of Lees.
	It's a very common last name.
	All right.
	It's like Chen or Wong.
	These are just questions from the chat.
	Let's go to the chat again.
	A couple more questions.
	Let's see.
	The answer is iPhone.
	One of the questions is, do you denounce the Democrat Party wholeheartedly now?
	Oh, absolutely.
	You know that I've done it.
	I say that every time I'm on air.
	I do that every day when I'm on TV. I feel bamboozled because I thought people were crazy for saying that the Democratic Party was like the Communist Party because they scream opportunity.
	Jobs for all.
	But then I realized that a lot of the tactics that they employ are very similar to those of the CCP. And that is outright excommunication, discrediting, public humiliation.
	A lot of these tactics are the same as those of the CCP. And I'm only realizing it now.
	I feel like the blue branding, we cannot underestimate the power of subliminal advertising and how they kind of rebranded socialism.
	As progressivism, which is something that should be hailed when it's actually socialism.
	Do you know what I mean?
	So I bought into it hook, line, and sinker.
	And it's going to take me a while for me to completely unravel and unlearn everything that I did over the past decade.
	I have one more question for you.
	There was a tweet here that you posted in November of 2023. And you said, happy birthday, POTUS. And that was Joe Biden.
	It says, you've always been, you've been.
	Unerringly kind to me and my family.
	I treasure that more than words can convey.
	I understand that you are a fundraiser and you've raised money for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
	What did you mean when you said that he's been kind to you and your family?
	What relationship did Joe Biden have with your family?
	I introduced him to my father, and he was the kindest.
	He was extremely kind to my father.
	And my dad is an immigrant like me, so meeting the President of the United States meant a lot to him.
	You can criticize Joe Biden all you want, but let's have respect for the office.
	And so for my dad, who grew up in the middle of nowhere, China, to meet the president of the most powerful nation on earth was a very humbling experience.
	And Joe Biden on that day was absolute class, and I'm not going to deny that.
	I have to give credit where credit was due.
	He carried himself with, you know, so much kindness and graciousness towards my father.
	And that's what I was talking about.
	Well, I will say, I don't really think that Joe Biden has respect for the office.
	So it's one thing to say to have respect for the office.
	But, I mean, this is a guy who clearly has dementia or some form of Alzheimer's.
	There was illicit drug use in the White House.
	Cocaine, bags of cocaine found.
	I'm right.
	As I said, like putting all that side, he was very kind to my father in that one particular moment.
	And I give him credit for that because I love my father deeply.
	My father, I just love my father.
	And I'm really thankful that the president of the United States, the most powerful nation on earth, treated my father so kindly.
	That's what I'm saying.
	All right.
	Well, anything else you want to say before we go?
	No.
	Thank you for this opportunity.
	Thank you.
	You obviously have a massive following, and I take you extremely seriously.
	I usually decline.
	Believe it or not, you probably think I accept every interview, but I decline most of them.
	Well, I didn't ask you for an interview.
	I didn't ask you.
	You DMed me and said you wanted to speak, so I didn't reach out.
	I don't usually do, unless it's a very good brand or whatever, but you are one of the most...
	Important voices in the political ecosystem.
	And it was very important for me to have a chance to talk with you.
	And so thank you.
	I understand that I have a lot of work to do.
	But I'm really not...
	I understand that.
	I'm not making excuses.
	I'm not asking for pity or compassion or empathy.
	I'm just going to get to work to ensure that we win the midterms in 2028. Well, I appreciate you saying that.
	I actually forgot.
	I had one more question, too, because this is one thing, too, that I just, you know, I found to be really interesting.
	I know that you were a fundraiser.
	I mean, we've just talked about so much.
	And just as we were signing off, I was just thinking to myself, is there anything else I want to ask?
	How did you get such close access to the White House?
	Because I know that you took photos with Kamala Harris and you have photos with Joe Biden at the White House because there's a lot of people that do bundling and, you know, they do fundraising work.
	How did you end up getting such close access to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris?
	I was on the National Alliance Committee.
	It's not just a fundraiser.
	We were the top fundraisers.
	Okay.
	Like the biggest group.
	I was just wondering how, because I've been to a lot of fundraisers before.
	In addition, I had held leadership positions at the DNC, so I played many roles there, not just as a fundraiser.
	I helped with the Asian American outreach.
	I also helped with the Mid-Atlantic stuff.
	I live in Philadelphia, the Mid-Atlantic region, so I've been helping with the party for about 10 years now in various capacities.
	I'm also, here in Pennsylvania, I'm also a commissioner, so I've had many opportunities.
	Oh, and funnily enough, I didn't meet Biden through politics.
	I met him because I served as a trustee on the American Association for Cancer Research.
	Cancer is a very important thing to me.
	So I met him in 2017 when he gave a speech there.
	And that was my first encounter with Joe Biden.
	It wasn't through politics at all.
	It was because his son died and he was very...
	Keen on supporting our organization.
	Yeah, I was just wondering.
	I was just, you know, interested.
	And then you yourself said that you are a donor on top of being a fundraiser yourself.
	If you don't mind me asking.
	My family.
	My family is.
	My family.
	We've donated to super PACs.
	We've donated to various campaigns.
	And how did your family make...
	I mean, if you don't mind me asking, how did your family acquire their wealth?
	I mean, I know your father's in real estate, and I believe your father's also a physician, right?
	Is that...
	He is.
	Yeah, he's MD, PhD.
	We're very proud of him.
	Because he came...
	I hate to say this, but he came from the middle of fuckware China, and they murdered his grandfather.
	So he really had all the odds stacked against him.
	And he is the hardest working person you will ever meet.
	And this is the type of immigrants...
	I... Laura...
	I really started paying attention to you when you went against Elon and immigration.
	Because I agree with you.
	We need immigrants.
	First of all, we need to put Americans first.
	But if we're going to have immigrants, we should have immigrants like my father, who will work their tail off to create American jobs, to make our country stronger.
	My dad is the hardest working person you will ever meet.
	And he hustled his way.
	He came here, went to Yale Medical School, Harvard Medical School.
	That's why we moved around so much.
	And he switched professions because he wasn't making enough money.
	And he had a family to support.
	And he went into real estate.
	That's why you moved to Pennsylvania.
	How did he afford Yale?
	You said Yale and Harvard or Yale and Princeton?
	Yale, Harvard Medical School.
	He didn't pay for it.
	It was scholarship.
	Oh, interesting.
	My dad is so smart.
	He's just great.
	Yeah.
	And such a patriot, too.
	He gets a lot of flack from my mom for being so anti-CCP because our family is attacked for it.
	But he believes, just like me, we'll say whatever is true.
	So my dad is fantastic.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm surprised they haven't killed your grandmother because, you know, given the fact that you said they killed your great-grandfather.
	She's 96, so she's 96. That's what the regime, as you know, the CCP does to family members of dissidents who speak out overseas.
	So I guess you're lucky that they haven't killed her.
	My grandparents are my father's.
	They're dead.
	It's my grandmother on my mother's side, who's 96. My father's side, they're dead.
	But she's still Chinese, right?
	Your mother?
	My mother?
	Yeah, you said it's your grandmother on your mother's side?
	My grandmother on my mother's side is Chinese.
	My mother is American.
	My entire family is American.
	But you said your grandmother is in China.
	Is in China, yeah.
	My mother is American.
	She's here.
	So what I'm saying is that because you're so vocal and because you said your family is so outspoken...
	She's also 96. I'm surprised that they haven't...
	Well, they murder people all the time.
	I mean, look what they did during COVID, right?
	I mean, they murder, they eat dogs.
	I mean, I don't know if you know this.
	I've rescued my dog from a Chinese meat market.
	So it's like the most brutal regime.
	Oh, wow.
	Well, I'm vegan.
	No, I'm not accusing you of being a dog eater.
	I'm just saying that, you know, a culture that has no problem killing domesticated animals certainly would have no problem killing a 96-year-old.
	And that's why I've been so vocal against them, and I will continue to be.
	I will make sure that we do whatever we can to ensure that the...
	That this century is another century of American hegemony.
	I'm all about that.
	Interesting.
	Well, thank you for coming on my program.
	I appreciate you coming on.
	And I noticed that when you were on Viva's show, you seemed to have been in bed in your pajamas, and you looked like...
	Yeah, I told you I was really suffering then, yeah.
	You looked like you were crying, but I think you're really pretty when you're not crying.
	When I'm not crying?
	When I'm...
	Oh my God, you're so kind.
	I actually...
	I'm wearing so much foundation right now because I haven't slept in three days.
	It's just been awful.
	Laura, I don't want to be on your bad side.
	Like, I just don't.
	I don't...
	Having the wrath of Laura Loomer heaped on your shoulders, man, I wouldn't wish it upon my enemy.
	It's that bad.
	It's just really bad, man.
	Well, you know, as President Trump has said, you don't want to get Loomer-ed.
	It's career-ending stuff.
	You do not want to get Loomer-ed.
	And I'm happy to take criticism.
	On everything that I've said, I take full responsibility for it.
	It was my fault.
	I was wrong.
	But I love my country.
	I love my country.
	I love the United States of America so, so much.
	More than I could ever convey.
	Well, like I said, I'm not here to make the case for you.
	I just wanted to give you an opportunity because I felt like it was the fair thing to do when you reached out and you asked if we could speak and I posted about you.
	And so I appreciate you coming on and we'll let the viewers decide for themselves.
	We have over 111,000 people watching live right now on Twitter.
	And how many live viewers do we have on Rumble right now, Cannon?
	About 2,000, so about 100 and...
	13,000 live viewers right now.
	So we'll let the viewers decide for themselves.
	I think that I was fair in showing all the receipts and showing all the documentation and giving you a chance to reply to the inconsistencies.
	And if we have more questions, I'll be sure to invite you on the show again.
	Okay, I'll give you my number so you can reach me directly.
	Great.
	Thanks for coming on, Lindy.
	Thank you, Laura, and happy Valentine's Day.
	Thank you.
	You too.
	All righty, everybody.
	Well, that was Lindy Lee.
	I know it was a very long interview, but like I said, I'm not here to convince you on anything.
	I have my own questions.
	I have my own concerns.
	And as you saw in the beginning, there were some inconsistencies there with statements made about when she came to this country, whether she spoke Chinese, the address.
	We showed the receipts.
	They did my research.
	So again, I'm happy to let people come on and give their side of the story.
	But I am also a firm believer in that receipts speak for themselves.
	And I also don't think that just because somebody says that they are now a Trump supporter, that they should automatically be welcomed in.
	I do think it's really interesting that she mentioned that the RNC is working with her, even if she claims she's not getting paid, that she's working with the RNC in some capacity to do fundraising.
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	Before we get into some of these other stories tonight, I want to talk about a story that I broke.
	Earlier this morning, late last night, there's all types of infiltrators that are trying to get into the Trump administration now, right?
	We heard from Lindy Lee tonight who swears that she's not trying to get in, but clearly, you know, she wants to be accepted by the GOP and by the Republicans.
	And then you have people that used to work for President Trump who betrayed President Trump who are also now trying to get back into the Trump administration.
	I want to show an article on my website.
	Well, here's the thread.
	We'll go through the thread, but then I want to pull the article up.
	Former SEC official William Hinman attempting to infiltrate the Trump crypto board despite donating to Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton.
	I was tipped off by a source of mine within the crypto community who alerted me to the fact that individuals within the crypto advisory board, and that of course includes David Sachs, who's now the crypto czar, has been entertaining the idea of perhaps allowing for the former SVC official William Hinman to come back into the Trump administration and work on crypto.
	Hinman worked at the SEC under Trump.
	We can get the article pulled up and go through it.
	But it's important to note that he donated to members of the J6 committee and he also donated to Joe Biden while he was employed at the SEC during the Trump administration.
	So we'll just go through this article from the top so that you can see it for yourself.
	Let's scroll down.
	Unscrolling.
	And if you haven't already seen the article, you can go to Lumard.com.
	And as I mentioned in the introduction of this article, President Trump received an enormous amount of support from the crypto community, which faced enormous backlash and attacks by the Biden regime over these last four years.
	And they had what was called a crypto winter.
	And we saw that Gary Gensler and we saw that Joe Biden and many of the Senate Democrats on the banking committee, including Elizabeth Warren, were very hostile towards the crypto community.
	And so when President Trump started campaigning on the issue of crypto and opened up the idea to his base and also a new class of voters who then showed up and voted for President Trump by saying that he was going to declare the United States of America as the crypto capital of the world.
	It caused the crypto community to raise millions of dollars for Donald Trump.
	And we saw historically either libertarian or Democrat individuals, some of them completely nonpolitical, apolitical, come out and support President Trump with enormous donations.
	President Trump himself accepted cryptocurrency.
	And since the election, President Trump has done several.
	And then, of course, we saw on January 17th, just several days before the inauguration, we had the crypto ball.
	We had the crypto ball in Washington, D.C. that was hosted by the newly appointed crypto and AI czar David Sachs.
	You can scroll down, and you can go through all this and verify this information yourself.
	Now, what is the whole point about this guy, William Hinman?
	Scroll up in the article, up, up, right there, that people should be concerned about.
	Well, in June of 2018, Hinman gave a speech at the Yahoo Finance All Market Summit in which he declared that Bitcoin and Ethereum, given their decentralized nature, were not securities.
	Many crypto innovators blame Hinman and his comments on being the catalyst for what they call the crypto winter, in which we saw crypto prices drop significantly.
	You'll notice now that ever since President Trump's inauguration, crypto, especially Bitcoin, has soared over $100,000 per Bitcoin.
	But this crypto winter, as a result of Bill Hinman's speech and all of the regulations from Gary Gensler and the Biden regime, caused a lot of crypto innovators to move their crypto innovations and their crypto projects overseas.
	Right.
	And that's why we saw a lot of activity elsewhere during the Biden regime.
	We saw crypto innovators trying to go to Latin and Central America.
	Look at what they did in El Salvador, making cryptocurrency a big part of the El Salvador economy, making Bitcoin legal tender.
	And now you see a third world country is now transforming itself and went from having the number one highest homicide rate in the country, in the world, excuse me, to being one of the safest countries in the world.
	And that has really been parallel with this crypto revolution and the introduction of cryptocurrency.
	Into the country of El Salvador.
	And we're seeing similar things around the world and other places where impoverished communities are now bringing in cryptocurrency and allowing for crypto innovators to support development in regions around the world that are underdeveloped with cryptocurrency and decentralized technology.
	You can scroll down.
	The ripple effect on crypto winter.
	As I said before, Hinman's comments resulted in kind of this regulatory backlash.
	And so many people in the crypto industry felt like they were being punitively and also retroactively attacked for actions.
	And they felt that Hinman was failing to disclose his own personal conflicts of interest.
	Many believe he should face jail time over.
	Many people in the crypto industry have accused him of committing fraud, and they are still calling on this Inspector General report to be released.
	It has not been released in full to the public yet, and many people feel as though Hinman is a criminal, but unfortunately he is now working with...
	People like Mark Andreessen over at Andreessen Horowitz.
	And it's kind of become a very uncomfortable situation because individuals who are tied to the Biden regime and individuals who screwed over so many people in the crypto industry are now trying to wiggle their way back into the Trump administration with all these big tech billionaire allies that they have.
	And the question that everybody's asking is, you know, we're told that the Trump 2.0 era is going to be a time period of accountability.
	But unfortunately, a lot of the big tech billionaires who are now serving in the Trump administration have ties to individuals like Bill Hinman.
	And the question is, is there going to be extreme accountability and extreme transparency?
	Or is it just going to be a billionaire's boys club where all these people get to skirt accountability and they get to not be held accountable for either alleged fraud or real?
	Real fraud.
	Simply because they do business with people who wrote big checks to President Trump.
	That's the question that we all have.
	You can scroll down.
	Political opportunism and subversion.
	You know, here I kind of elaborated on Bill Hinman's position working at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.
	He worked there from May 2017 until the end of 2020 during the first Trump administration.
	But he showed an extreme lack of loyalty.
	You can scroll down.
	FEC records actually reveal and show that while he was working there from May of 2017 until December of 2020, the end of the Trump administration, He gave political contributions to Joe Biden in Act Blue.
	So here we have, you can see, it's a little blurry on your end, but you can see if you zoom in by going to lumert.com or reading the thread on my Twitter account.
	October 2020, September 2020, February 2020, January 2020, again December 2019, 2018. That's during the time frame that Bill Hinman was at the SEC under the Trump administration.
	And so the question is, is why was a Trump admin official donating to ActBlue, which, as you know, is the Democrat Party platform for fundraising?
	Why was he doing this, right?
	And now he's trying to use his connections to David Sachs, the crypto NAI czar, and Mark Andreessen, who was a Hillary Clinton supporter and never supported Trump because all these big tech billionaires, like, suck the dicks of every single immigrant that wants to come into this country.
	I mean, really, honestly, his reasoning for not supporting President Trump was, oh, well, I just find it to be absolutely repulsive.
	Anybody that wants to have a chokehold on immigration.
	Because we're supposed to just let all of our jobs be taken by immigrants, apparently, according to people like Marc Andreessen and these other big tech billionaires prior to their reawakening that they only had when an assassin almost put a bullet in President Trump's head live on television.
	You know, we're told that these people are the best and brightest in the world.
	And I'm told, hey, hey, Laura, stop mouthing off to all these big tech billionaires.
	You're so mouthy.
	You're so mouthy.
	You know, why are you so mouthy?
	Why do you always have to mouth off to all these rich men?
	Because I don't give a shit about how rich they are.
	I don't give a shit who they are.
	All I need to know is the receipts.
	And the receipts and their political contributions and their previous statements up until the point where somebody almost shot Donald Trump in the head and we almost watched his brains explode in 4K. Okay?
	All these people were condemning Donald Trump on a daily basis.
	So I don't really need to, you know...
	Monitor the way I talk about people who are only given a seat at the table in the Trump administration, not because they have merit or hard work, but because they are rich enough to write a multi-million dollar check.
	So I don't really give a fuck who you are or how rich you are.
	Because at the end of the day...
	Just because you're rich doesn't mean that you can welcome all of your compromised buddies and all of your Democrat plant friends and all of the traitors who were actively undermining Donald Trump while they were working for Donald Trump and his administration to come then work at your company in the private sector after screwing over the American people working in an official government capacity at the SEC. And now you want these people to then be able to have another opportunity to screw Donald Trump?
	I don't think so.
	So we got to call these people out.
	It's just one of those things.
	And you don't know how many times I've been told by people, you know, if you just kept your mouth shut, you would be so much wealthier.
	You would go on Fox News.
	You would have access to mainstream media.
	You would get these rich guys to write you a check, and they'd fund your media operation the same way that Marc Andreessen and David Sachs are funding Bari Weiss and her entity over at the Free Press.
	I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Bari Weiss attacks President Trump and thinks he's a Nazi and is actively opposing.
	All of his nominees, right?
	Sure has nothing to do with that, right?
	I don't want to be quiet.
	I don't want to have to self-censor myself to get a check from these people or to get the validation from these people who don't even truly believe in the cause of MAGA and America First.
	Mark Andreessen has publicly said that we need to retire democracy because it's a failed system.
	Mark Andreessen has said that he supports technocracy, and he entertained the idea of having a technocratic fascist dictator ruling America.
	So why would I want somebody who is working at Marc Andreessen's firm right now within his crypto fund to then be back invited into the Trump administration?
	So I sent this report over today to the Trump administration because I'm doing my part.
	I don't know about the people who are working for President Trump who are supposedly getting paid to do vetting.
	I don't really see much vetting going on.
	I don't.
	People can be upset all they want, but if people were actually doing vetting, well, then, well, why are you not finding this stuff?
	Why do I have to spend, I've been awake for over 48 hours, okay?
	I'm exhausted.
	I'm tired.
	I've been awake for over 48 hours, and I'm happy to do my show.
	I'm happy to put out these reports.
	But I've been up for over two days.
	I haven't slept in two days.
	I have to keep a jar of Pepto in my drawer with me and a container full of ginger ale because I'm so nauseated right now from the lack of sleep and the lack of energy that I have right now from staying up so late, doing the work that other people in the Republican Party are supposed to be doing, trying to do vetting on potential CCP infiltration, trying to do vetting.
	I'm not getting paid to do this.
	And I'm doing it because I care about my country and because I care about Donald Trump.
	So if I have to take anti-nausea medicine and have to run on You know, multi-day benders where I don't get any sleep because I'm doing the job that people in our own Trump administration are supposed to be doing.
	I think it's time for people to step up the vetting process and to start doing more to protect Donald Trump because we have a serious problem.
	If a guy who donated to Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton and Jamie Raskin while he was working for the Trump administration is now going to events hosted by Trump Trump administration officials.
	I'm talking about the crypto ball hosted by David Sachs, okay?
	Why are we not holding David Sachs accountable as the crypto and AIs are?
	Why are we not holding Marc Andreessen accountable?
	Why are we allowing Marc Andreessen to go on podcasts with Bari Weiss without disclosing the fact that he is giving money to Bari Weiss?
	So I don't know if she disclosed the fact in that interview that Marc Andreessen is one of her investors when he went on her program to talk about how, oh, I'm spending more than half my time at Mar-a-Lago since the election.
	We have that clip.
	Let's go ahead and play that clip of Marc Andreessen talking about how he's spending over half of his time since the election at Mar-a-Lago, which is really deeply disturbing.
	Go ahead and play the clip.
	Have you been down to Mar-a-Lago since the election?
	So on the second question, yes.
	How many times?
	A fair amount.
	Maybe half my time down there since the election.
	Wow.
	In and around there.
	Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not like in the room.
	I'm like not, you know, again, I'm not claiming to be like in the middle of all the decision making, but I've been trying to, you know, help in as many ways as I can.
	So, look, I'll start by saying, look, as we discussed, Trump brings out a lot of feelings in a lot of people.
	People have very strong views.
	And then there are many political topics that I'm very deliberately not weighing in on.
	And so I'm not Mr. Foreign Policy or Mr. Abortion Policy or guns.
	When I talk about these things, it's around, as I said, tech policy, business, economics, and then the health of the country, the success of the country.
	Have you been down to Mar-a-Lago since the election?
	So on the second question, yes.
	How many times?
	A fair amount.
	Maybe half my time down there since the election.
	Wow.
	In and around there.
	Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not like in the room.
	I'm like not, you know, again, I'm not claiming to be like in the middle of all the decision making, but I've been trying to, you know, help in as many ways as I can.
	So, look, I start by saying, look, as we discussed, Trump brings out a lot of feelings in a lot of people.
	People have very strong views.
	And then there are many political topics that I'm very deliberately not weighing in on.
	And so I'm not Mr. Foreign Policy or Mr. Abortion Policy or guns.
	When I talk about these things, it's around, as I said, tech policy, business, economics, and then the health of the country, the success of the country.
	Yeah, he's not Mr. Policy on all these other issues, but of course, you know, he's trying to implement and influence policy.
	Otherwise, he wouldn't be spending most of his time, as he told Barry Weiss, who he's funding, that he's been spending most of his time at Mar-a-Lago since the election.
	So these guys try to act like they're so sincere and that they're so altruistic in the way, oh, they're giving money.
	I'm a billionaire and I'm giving this amount of money to President Trump.
	It's like toilet paper money for me, but I'm so generous.
	I'm so altruistic.
	They're benefiting themselves.
	You don't think that Mark Andreessen is not benefiting by trying to use his position.
	Let's scroll down so that people understand what I'm talking about.
	Let's go down to the bottom of the article.
	Scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
	Okay, scroll up a little bit.
	Up, up, up, up a little bit.
	Okay, so after leaving the SEC, scroll down just a little bit.
	Oh, by the way, you can, I'm sorry, scroll up a little bit, just a little bit right there.
	Just so that you see the receipts and you see I'm not making this up.
	He was donating to Joe Biden, this Bill Hinman guy.
	He was donating to Joe Biden.
	While he was still working for President Trump's SEC in Trump's first term.
	And then after January 6th, he donated to Jamie Raskin.
	You can see here, this is an FEC record that shows that he donated to, and that's after he was at the SEC. He then went to Simpson Thatcher, a law firm.
	And he donated $1,500 in March of 2021. And March of 2021 is when the J6 committee was ramping up their efforts to encourage FBI raids against Trump supporters and also the deplatforming and the persecution of Donald Trump.
	So this guy now is aligning with David Sachs, and he works for Marc Andreessen, who has been spending most of his time at Mar-a-Lago.
	So if Marc Andreessen truly cares about President Trump and he truly cares about America First, why does he have this guy, Bill Hinman, working for him when Bill Hinman was literally undermining Donald Trump while he was working for Trump by donating to his political opposition and then funding members of the J6 Committee?
	And of course, Marc Andreessen has me blocked, okay?
	He's a total, total loser.
	The guy has me blocked, like all these other big tech billionaire losers.
	I don't care how much money you have.
	He's a loser.
	He's never, ever once replied to any of my tweets in which I've posted these receipts.
	The guy is a loser.
	And if I was involved in Trump's vetting team, and I clearly don't work for President Trump, although I'm in regular contact with his team and with his staff at the White House.
	I would not be allowing these people anywhere near President Trump, or I would at least be making demands that individuals be fired if they were going to be occupying time at my residence.
	Like, you're going and spending time at the president's home, and yet you're employing somebody that donated to the J6 committee who supported and led the impeachments against President Trump.
	You're never going to get me to praise these big tech billionaires.
	You're just never going to do it.
	Scroll down just a little bit.
	Additionally, after leaving the SEC, Hinman joined Andreessen Horowitz's A16Z, a prominent venture capital firm deeply invested in crypto, where Hinman was appointed as an advisory partner.
	Mark Andreessen, co-founder of A16Z, has been a vocal advocate for crypto, and Hinman's move to A16Z was viewed by some as a continuation of his influence in shaping crypto policy, but from the private sector as opposed to his private role.
	So you can see on the website there, A16Z Crypto.
	Scroll down.
	It says their team, Bill Hinman.
	Scroll down.
	Thank you.
	The transition was particularly noted when A16Z announced a massive $2.2 billion crypto fund with Hinman's role viewed as leveraging his regulatory experience for the firm's benefit.
	Hinman's involvement in such a significant investment in crypto right after a tenure at the SEC marked by regulatory ambiguity has raised eyebrows about the revolving door between regulatory agencies and private sector gains.
	It's worth noting, as I said, and you can read this, it's on my X account and it's also on Lumard.com, scroll down, that much like Hinman was a never-Trumper, as I said before, he supported Clinton.
	Andreessen also supported Clinton.
	And when asked if he was supporting Clinton over Trump in 2016, he said, is that a serious question?
	And then proceeded to berate Trump over his strict immigration policies, adding that, as I said before, any proposal to choke off immigration makes no sense.
	I think you all get the point.
	So the fact of the matter is, is this report has not even been released to the public yet.
	Scroll down.
	Keep on scrolling.
	The OIG report was not released, and many people believe that Gary Gensler actually failed to release the report as a way to protect Hinman.
	And so if Gary Gensler is protecting Hinman, why would anybody want Hinman in the Trump administration on the Crypto Advisory Board?
	If this guy was responsible for a cryptocurrency winter, as many people accused him of, and some people say that he's corrupt, some people in the crypto industry believe that this guy belongs in prison.
	Some people call him a fraudster.
	I'm just saying that if this is all true, why would we want this guy anywhere near President Trump's administration or his crypto board?
	So people need to be tweeting about this.
	Again, I sent this to President Trump's team directly today, and his staff acknowledged and confirmed receipt of my report and informed me that it's going to be passed along to the president and his personnel management team.
	So my job is done.
	You know, because as somebody who actually is a true loyal Trump supporter, not one of these people that showed up and pretended to be pro-Trump after not doing anything to support the president, somebody who actually has real blood, sweat, and tears in the game, as I have as an original Trump supporter, I'm doing the work that people who are getting paid by the Trump administration should be doing but aren't doing.
	And now President Trump is going to know, not because of them, but because of me.
	So you're welcome.
	And I'm hoping that this can protect not just President Trump, but also the crypto community from people who want to use access to the president from their own or for their own personal gain at the expense of the American people.
	So, share the report.
	I hope you find it interesting.
	There definitely needs to be better vetting done.
	Joey2of14 said, "This is crazy.
	How are these people even allowed near Trump?
	Tina Eagle said, we wouldn't know.
	Great job, Laura.
	L.A. Azteca said, Laura is such a hard worker, deserves some R&R. Yeah, I know.
	I have like a splitting headache right now.
	Because I've literally been up for over 48 hours doing all this research and trying to get all of this information out there because it's just crazy to me.
	And this isn't even on top of the other stories that we talked about on Loomer Unleashed this week, including the story about how we here exclusively at Loomer Unleashed found, discovered the fact that Judge McConnell's daughter is a current Biden appointee who works at the Department of Education.
	So we're doing so much research that people who work for President Trump should be doing that aren't doing.
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	Great job, Laura.
	Her backtracking was telling.
	Like I said, I don't need to comment on what I thought about the Lindy Lee interview.
	It speaks for itself.
	My point was to ask questions and to ask very pointed questions and to bring receipts.
	The backtracking spoke for itself.
	The crying spoke for itself.
	I'm not going to tell you guys what to think.
	It's up to you.
	A lot of people have questions.
	A lot of people have concerns.
	I gave a very fair interview tonight.
	To a Democrat Party operative and she had over an hour to explain herself.
	She was not censored.
	She was not yelled at.
	I spoke very respectfully to her and I'm not going to tell you what you should think about it.
	You can think for yourself.
	You can think for yourself and you can determine your own opinion about Lindy Lee.
	I've already made my thoughts clear about what I think.
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	We'll take a couple more questions from the chat.
	We've been live for almost three hours now, so it's definitely been a long show, but a lot of people were anticipating this interview with Lindy Lee tonight.
	And this bombshell report on William Hinman trying to infiltrate the Trump administration.
	Let's see.
	Keeps on going and going and going.
	Yes.
	Oh, and happy Valentine's Day to all of you.
	That's right.
	It's Valentine's Day.
	I tend to forget these things.
	I hope all of you have a wonderful Valentine's Day this weekend.
	Riley CJ said, Lee squirming as you lumered her was fantastic.
	Had her number.
	Terrific work Laura.
	Shout out to Loomer Fan Club.
	I definitely want to know what you guys thought about the Lindy Lee interview tonight.
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	Trying to sneak their way back into the Trump administration and the big tech billionaires and current Trump administration officials who, unfortunately, but not surprisingly, because I've been telling you these guys are cocksuckers and they can't be trusted, not surprisingly, I don't trust these people at all.
	I warned you.
	I told you that it doesn't matter how rich they are.
	There's no such thing as a reawakening.
	It's called political opportunism, and we've talked a lot about it tonight on this show.
	It comes in many forms.
	As you've seen tonight, it comes from China, it comes from Silicon Valley, it comes from Washington, D.C., it comes all over.
	We're surrounded by it every single day and every single day.
	It's our jobs to point it out.
	And unfortunately, the media and the political elites in the RNC and even people in the Trump administration are failing to see this.
	And it's very, very concerning because we cannot allow for infiltrators and subverters and people who have bad intentions to get into the Republican Party or to get into the Trump administration.
	And so with that, I hope that you found this episode I hope you all have a wonderful Valentine's Day.
	I hope you have a wonderful weekend.
	And I will see you next Tuesday for another episode of Loomer Unleashed.
	Thanks so much for tuning in.
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