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	There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.
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	Good evening and welcome to episode 103 of Loomer Unleashed.
	I'm your host, Laura Loomer.
	We have a lot to talk about tonight.
	You may have noticed that there are anti-Trump and anti-Elon Musk and anti-Doge protests all across the country popping up all over the place.
	We just had President's Day on Monday.
	And as a result, we saw all of these coordinated left-wing protests all around the country.
	And the big question that everybody is asking is, It's like a resistance 2.0.
	We saw during the first term of President Trump's first administration, there was a very well-organized and well-funded resistance movement.
	And so we've been doing a lot of digging here at Loomer Unleashed into the funding sources and the people who are behind these new protests and these new movements that are popping up all across the country.
	So we're going to get into that tonight.
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	In about 10 minutes, we're going to be joined by Taiwan's cyber ambassador, Audrey Tang, who's going to talk about a new paper that she just published regarding the understanding of engagement, designing platforms that bring us together.
	So Audrey, as I said before, is Taiwan's cyber ambassador, and we're going to have a conversation tonight about the need for social media platforms that create a sense of collaborative community engagement as opposed to authoritarianism and how true free speech and decentralization and we're going to have a conversation tonight about the need for social media platforms that create a sense of collaborative community engagement as opposed to authoritarianism and how true free speech and
	So we're looking forward to having...
	Autry, join us.
	Here's an article, Lessons from Taiwan, How Digital Tools Can Help Governments Regain the People's Trust.
	You can scroll down.
	This is a story about how digital tools helped government officials regain the trust of the electorate, but it's not a science fiction tale about a future reunited States of America.
	Instead, it's a story about Taiwan, as told by Autry Tang, the country's first minister of digital affairs and first transgender cabinet minister.
	It is not inevitable for social media to polarize people.
	Tang, who now serves as Taiwan's cyber ambassador at large, said this week at Town Hall Seattle.
	We just saw that Autry was also in Munich, where, of course, J.D. Vance spoke, and we saw a gathering of world leaders, so we're going to be asking Autry about that.
	But, you know, Taiwan's in a unique situation.
	Because they're constantly under threat of occupation by China, which of course is a pro-censorship regime.
	And so I'm looking forward to having Autry on to talk about the greatest threat, in her opinion, to free speech and how people all around the world can use tools of social media.
	To fight for their freedom and, like I said before, fight back against authoritarianism.
	Because if there's one thing that we've seen all around the world, and it should be evident from the speech that J.D. Vance gave, and I'm sure we can find some clips from J.D. Vance and his speech in Munich over these last few days at the security conference where he attacked European leaders and officials all around the world for...
	Not supporting the values of freedom of expression and not supporting free speech.
	I posted a clip from his speech the other day on my Twitter account and it went pretty viral.
	We have that clip.
	I know we're going to play it for you momentarily.
	There really is an assault on free speech and freedom of expression around the world.
	We're seeing that social media platforms are blocking out certain access to certain pages and certain individuals, depending on whether that country finds the speech to be hateful or a violation.
	As J.D. Vance said, while speaking in Munich, you have people that are literally going to jail for posting memes.
	So how does the United States, how are we going to have a cordial relationship with countries that are pro-censorship or are trying to use people's social media presence as a way to silence them and censor them?
	Let's go ahead and play the clip.
	Well, thank you.
	And thanks to all the gathered delegates and luminaries and media professionals.
	And thanks especially to the hosts of the Munich Security Conference for being able to put on such an incredible event.
	We're, of course, thrilled to be here.
	We're happy to be here.
	And, you know, one of the things that I wanted to talk about today is, of course, our shared values.
	And, you know, it's great to be back in Germany, as you heard earlier.
	I was here last year as United States Senator.
	I saw Foreign Minister, excuse me, Foreign Secretary David Lammy and joked that both of us last year had different jobs than we have now.
	But now it's time for all of our countries, for all of us who have been...
	We're fortunate enough to be given political power by our respective peoples to use it wisely to improve their lives.
	And I want to say that, you know, I was fortunate in my time here to spend some time outside the walls of this conference over the last 24 hours.
	And I've been so impressed by the hospitality of the people, even, of course, as they're reeling from yesterday's horrendous attack.
	And the first time I was ever in Munich was with my wife, actually, who's here with me today, on a personal trip.
	And I've always loved the city of Munich, and I've always loved its people.
	And I just want to say that we're very moved, and our thoughts and prayers are with Munich and everybody affected by the evil inflicted on this beautiful community.
	We're thinking about you.
	We're praying for you.
	And we will certainly be rooting for you in the days and weeks to come.
	Now, I hope that's not the last bit of applause that I get, but...
	We gather at this conference, of course, to discuss security, and normally we mean threats to our external security.
	I see many great military leaders gathered here today.
	But while the Trump administration is very concerned with European security...
	And believes that we can come to a reasonable settlement between Russia and Ukraine.
	And we also believe that it's important in the coming years for Europe to step up in a big way to provide for its own defense.
	The threat that I worry the most about vis-a-vis Europe is not Russia, it's not China, it's not any other external actor.
	And what I worry about is the threat from within.
	The retreat of Europe.
	From some of its most fundamental values, values shared with the United States of America.
	Now, I was struck that a former European commissioner went on television recently and sounded delighted that the Romanian government had just annulled an entire election.
	He warned that if things don't go to plan, the very same thing could happen in Germany, too.
	Now these cavalier statements are shocking to American ears.
	For years, we've been told that everything we fund and support is in the name of our shared democratic values.
	Everything from our Ukraine policy to digital censorship is billed as a defense of democracy.
	But when we see European courts cancelling elections and senior officials threatening to cancel others, we ought to ask whether we're holding ourselves to an appropriately high standard.
	And I say ourselves because I fundamentally believe that we are on the same team.
	We must do more than talk about democratic values.
	We must live them.
	Now within living memory of many of you in this room, the Cold War positioned defenders of democracy against much more tyrannical forces on this continent.
	And consider the side in that fight that censored dissidents, that closed churches, that canceled elections.
	Were they the good guys?
	Certainly not.
	And thank God they lost the Cold War.
	They lost because they neither valued nor respected all of the extraordinary blessings of liberty.
	The freedom to surprise, to make mistakes, to invent, to build.
	As it turns out, you can't mandate innovation or creativity just as you can't force people what to think, what to feel, or what to believe.
	And we believe those things are certainly connected.
	And unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, it's sometimes not so clear what happened to some of the Cold War's winners.
	I look to Brussels, where EU commissars warn citizens that they intend to shut down social media during times of civil unrest the moment they spot what they've judged to be, quote, hateful content.
	Or to this very country.
	Where police have carried out raids against citizens suspected of posting anti-feminist comments online as part of, quote, combating misogyny on the internet, a day of action.
	I look to Sweden, where two weeks ago the government convicted a Christian activist for participating in Koran burnings that resulted in his friend's murder.
	And as the judge in his case chillingly noted, Sweden's laws to supposedly protect free expression do not, in fact, grant, and I'm quoting, a free pass to do or say anything without risking offending the group that holds that belief.
	And perhaps most concerningly, I look to our very dear friends, the United Kingdom, where the backslide away from conscience rights has placed the basic liberties of religious Britons, in particular, in the crosshairs.
	A little over two years ago, the British government charged Adam Smith Connor, a 51-year-old physiotherapist and an Army veteran, with the heinous crime of standing 50 meters from an abortion clinic and silently praying for three minutes.
	Not obstructing anyone, not interacting with anyone, just silently praying on his own.
	Autry Tane is going to be joining us momentarily, and I want to get her reaction because not only was she in attendance at the Munich Security Conference, but also spoke there as well on behalf of Taiwan.
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	I want to welcome our first guest of the evening to Loomer Unleashed, Audrey Tang.
	Who I believe is joining us from Taiwan or perhaps still Europe, but I know it's somewhere overseas.
	So, Audrey, thank you so much for joining me on my program tonight.
	How are you doing?
	Hello, I'm in Taiwan.
	Half past 10 and really happy to share with you some thoughts around the freedom of speech.
	We, of course, support robust uncensored discourse from Taiwan because we suffer from martial law and also, of course, resisting authoritarian censorship.
	Absolutely.
	So you are Taiwan's cyber ambassador and you are also Taiwan's first ever digital affairs minister from 2022 to 2024. And I think it's an interesting concept because only now here in the United States do we have somebody who is fulfilling a similar role.
	I guess people would describe you as the tech support, right?
	The tech support for Taiwan.
	And now we see the same kind of...
	It's a self-proclaimed position of White House tech support or national tech support.
	Can you explain to the viewers what you do in your position as Taiwan cyber ambassador and what your position as the digital affairs minister involves?
	Because I think that that's a unique position to Taiwan that we don't really see in other places around the world.
	Certainly.
	So I joined the cabinet as a special advisor in 2014, actually.
	That was more than a decade ago.
	And it followed an event in Taiwan's history we call the Sunflower Movement in March 2014. At the time, many people who were unhappy with this trade deal with Beijing that would have invited them into our media, into our communication network, and so on, took the matter to our own hands.
	So we peacefully occupied Parliament for three weeks, calling for reform.
	And also we call ourselves demonstrators, not just protesters, because we want to show that it is possible in a way that is transparent, that's not censored, to have an all-of-society conversation around these matters.
	And so at the end of that year, I was invited to basically play that role, but online.
	And so building systems where people can have unfiltered access and conversations without getting censored by social media at the time, big tech at the time, so that we can determine policies together.
	So we not only resolved issues, for example, around Uber and workers' rights and so on, but also we tackled the disinformation attack, the polarization attacks coming from our authoritarian neighbor.
	And we also shortened the tax filing process from three hours into like three minutes.
	That was in 2016-17.
	Again, tapping into the wisdom of the crowd by anyone who contributes ideas.
	And we publish also transparently the government spendings, procurements, so that people can comment freely on it.
	Very interesting, and of course, that's a position that I wish we would have had here in the United States of America years ago, because we've seen now, finally, there seems to be a focus on free speech, and especially now that we're seeing the political vindication of President Trump with his re-election after we witnessed the shocking censorship during a presidential election in 2020 and the shocking act of deplatforming of a sitting United States president.
	The big tech social media companies, of course in 2021. I'd like to see that there's now a renewed focus on free speech and the creation of platforms, but I still think that there are challenges here, not just in Taiwan, not just in other parts of the world.
	We saw this discussed at length, and it became a point of controversy during the Munich Security Council, given the fact that J.D. Vance put most of the European attendees on full blast on the international stage there, condemning them by name.
	For individual acts of censorship and authoritarianism.
	And I know that one of the things that you're most focused on, and you recently released a paper on this, and you have a film coming out about this as well, is a way that these social media platforms can help support communities through transparency and through open source technology as a way to combat not only censorship, but also authoritarianism.
	And so, given that you not only attended the Munich Security Conference, but You also spoke on behalf of Taiwan.
	What were your thoughts of JD Vance's speech?
	What was the reaction as an attendee?
	How did you feel in your position as the cyber ambassador?
	And what impact do you think it had on the global stage as it relates to free speech and anti-censorship policies?
	Yeah, great question.
	So I spoke at the Munich cybersecurity conference, which was one day before the security conference.
	But I did, of course, like everybody else, listen to your vice president's speech.
	I think in Taiwan, because we're the most free in all of Asia in terms of Internet freedom, including freedom of expression and so on, we do not believe that there is a tradeoff to be made between security on one side and freedom on the other.
	There are many jurisdictions that believe in order to have safety, have security and so on, you have to give in a little bit on freedom, like you have to censor some speech in the name of safety and security.
	But in Taiwan, we have found that if you make sure that it is the communities themselves Making the moderation work instead of delegating it into experts or some third party people controlled by big tech, it is actually resulting in much more robust resilience.
	That is to say, instead of not seeing the attack or polarization and so on, people learn to identify these as robots, trolls and things like that.
	But you do not need to censor them.
	People can have a shared understanding of what is And so to your other question about the role social media plays today.
	So I'm advising the Project Liberty Institute and we're redesigning the ideas around communities online.
	So that we can build upon what's called open source or free software, decentralized systems, so that if you are not happy with any particular policy that social media runs, you can keep your content, keep your relationship, keep your social graph, and then just migrate to some other communities where you can then have your own conversation and moderation rules.
	And so we're advising also the team about the people's bid, trying to buy TikTok with...
	Eric McCord and O'Leary are leading the bid to turn TikTok into something like this, where the moderation rules are not determined by a far-off entity, but rather by individual communities.
	So how would your system differ from a system like Facebook's fact checkers or what now is described as the X community note system?
	Because some people have argued, and we have seen this firsthand, how these systems, while they have come with good intentions, originally kind of like this idea that it's going to be a collaborative effort with people identifying things that are obvious lies or misinformation or, you know, putting in their input.
	They've also been weaponized.
	We've seen the way that Facebook...
	Or Meta has created partisan advisory boards full of mostly leftist activists, for example, that weaponized the fact-checking system and used it to impose fake science or revisionist history.
	And some people have also made the same argument for the community note system on X, arguing that there's only a select few people who can actually participate in the community note system, which means that it's not as open source or as decentralized or open to the public which means that it's not as open source or as decentralized or open to the public as it may
	So how would you say that your system of doing things is different from Meta's fact checkers or Facebook's community note or X's community notes?
	Excuse me.
	Yeah, in two very important ways.
	One is that we're replacing top-down decisions with a community-based button-up approach.
	And so instead of the secret panels where you really do not know who they are, deciding who to silence, the idea is that each community can decide what content they value.
	And so this is the first thing.
	It's basically decentralizing the decision making, not just the technical apparatus.
	And the second thing is that it is based on more speech instead of less speech.
	The idea of our system is that you simply see more labels, like what ideas are gaining common ground in your communities and what ideas remain divisive, but how it is debated.
	But these labels are not taking anything down.
	You're simply given more context about who supports it and why.
	And so that is the opposite of censorship.
	We're not taking anything down.
	We're adding in valuable context.
	Given what you just said, how was your own reaction to J.D. Vance's speech?
	Did you find yourself agreeing with most of what he said or did you find yourself disagreeing with elements of it or do you agree that we've seen a degradation and kind of an assault on free speech and freedom of expression in Europe?
	Well, I think the Romania case that he basically shares with the audience, that is also a case that I often make, which is we need to strengthen democracy so it is not easily overtaken or overwhelmed by bots, by polarization attacks from authoritarian regimes.
	So in that message, I think we're very much in sync.
	I think many of the European audience...
	Basically, are trying to come up with what we have already discovered in Taiwan, which is a more robust and more open and transparent way of basically making sure that people understand what's going on.
	Additional context is actually better in terms of defending against such polarization and infiltration attacks, troll attacks, and so on.
	Misclassifying some humans as trolls and then therefore silencing their speech.
	And because in doing so, then you weaken the social fabric, you weaken the strengths of different people with different opinions.
	And so I think the Vance speech outlines...
	A direction.
	And then I think the technological idea here is that we need to make sure that the communities have the moderation in their own hands instead of just making sure that one single state actor or one single big tech actor does that.
	Because as long as it's centralized in one decision maker, I think that this false trade-off will inevitably happen.
	You mentioned the sunflower movement in Taiwan.
	And so I wanted to get your take on this because what we saw here in the United States was a crackdown on free speech and a movement to increase censorship here in the United States when we had our own January 6th protests at the United States Capitol.
	Now, the left would argue that they were violent.
	The right would say that they were peaceful protests, given the fact that...
	You know, nobody used any weapons and they were just Trump supporters simply occupying what we call here the People's House, right?
	The United States Capitol, which is paid for by the U.S. taxpayers.
	That was the catalyst.
	That was the defining moment that really resulted in the deplatforming of Donald Trump and the creation of new pro-censorship policies by the big tech social media companies here in America to not only silence world leaders, but also silence half of the country and really crack down on political speech.
	Did you see similar things happen when you had the occupation of your own government buildings in Taiwan during the The Sunflower Movement because it's interesting to see how All around the world, right, there have been protest movements where citizens have occupied political buildings, and yet the reactions have been so drastic.
	I mean, here in the United States, you had politicians like Kamala Harris actually saying that January 6th was worse than Pearl Harbor or worse than 9-11, right, when thousands of people lost their lives in acts of terrorism.
	And so how would you compare and contrast something like Taiwan's sunflower movement to the January 6th protest?
	Well, back in 2014, I believe that we were even more Divided and angry.
	The approval rate at the time was 9% for the president at the time.
	That is to say, in a country with 24 million people, anything that the president says, like 20 million people against him.
	And so I think that was even more drastic.
	I think one contrast I will draw is that we said In the beginning, that we're not just demanding something or protesting something.
	Rather, we're from the demand side moving to the supply side, the tech support side, by demonstrating that it is possible for people to come up with better trade deal policy ideas instead of just the one that's being ran through, or that people can come up with better thoughts around how to protect our information ecosystem.
	From the invasions, right, of communist authoritarian ideas and so on.
	And so by very quickly positioning ourselves into demonstrators, not just protesters, I think that is how the energy has been different and resulted in Sunflower being one of the very rare Occupy that resulted in the Speaker of the Parliament basically said, okay, the people's idea do have a point, let's accept their ideas.
	And so that was the Occupy that converged instead of diverged over time.
	You have a paper that you've published, Understanding Over Engagement, Designing Platforms to Bring Us Together, where you talk about how we need to be focused on creating these platforms and supporting the creation of social media platforms to support communities and build up communities and freedom of speech, but also to combat authoritarianism.
	Do you feel that now more than ever, or...
	Perhaps we're seeing a decrease in authoritarianism, but is it your opinion that with the rise of technology, we're seeing an increased threat of global authoritarianism or a decreased threat of global authoritarianism?
	Yeah, I think for authoritarians, their main idea really is to spread this freedom only leads to chaos, freedom only leads to infighting, freedom never leads to something that delivers.
	That meta-narrative really is their justification for locking down and shutting down and taking down stuff, right?
	To combat that, what we need is to build a resilient society that, for example, if you subscribe to content that supports traditional values and you see a post that's labeled like it's a shared ground among Christian conservatives and so on, and then you see some very trollish attacks from maybe a libertarian angle and so on.
	And so that's when the slowing of discord happens in those polarization attacks.
	So nowadays, the tactics from authoritarians is no longer taking down things, but rather populating it with even more message that creates this false sense of consensus like, oh, there's so much infighting and chaos.
	But with our system, you can see a very clear label that this is a sure ground.
	And there's also different perspectives among libertarians and so on. - Yeah, and I would agree with that because what we're seeing now is echo chambers And even though I would say that X has I mean, I've been censored on Twitter 1.0 and I've also been censored on Twitter 2.0.
	So I've been censored by Jack Dorsey and I've been censored by Elon Musk.
	But one thing that you said in your paper that I found to be really interesting is you said, with a deeply polarizing U.S. election fresh in mind, the need to redesign platforms that bridge divides has never been more urgent.
	In a paper we've just released, we offer a solution based on one that has already played a pivotal role in addressing similar problems in Taiwan and on X. And you're right.
	What's happened now is that even though I would say there's more free speech on Twitter 2.0 than we saw on Twitter 1.0, you have echo chambers where you have people on the left because of the polarizing election and because Elon Musk gave $270 million to support the presidential election in support of Donald Trump, they're now all flocking.
	Where if you're a conservative like I am and you're going on Blue Sky, you're barely going to have an audience because it seems like social media now has divided itself into these echo chambers.
	X, of course, I think picked up a lot of support, especially in the aftermath of Meta censoring so many people during the election.
	But now you're seeing this rebrand effort, whether it's genuine or not, by Mark Zuckerberg to try to rebrand Meta.
	You talk about how, what if instead, this is another quote from your paper, instead of amplifying posts that spread misinformation or fuel outrage and division, social media platforms empowered their users to promote content that they value and that brings their communities together.
	What if instead of leaving content moderation to sensorial governments or the political whims of tech billionaires, platforms allowed users to provide context that fosters understanding and strengthens their communities?
	It's an interesting concept because We have seen this accusation from the left.
	They'll say things like, oh, Elon Musk simply amplifies content that's like fuel outrage or rage bait for the conservative movement.
	But then you'll see people say the opposite, right?
	They said the same thing about Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook when Facebook was largely controlled by leftists.
	Do you find that if we were to have this content moderation system where it was not up to tech billionaires or governments to decide what terms of service should be like we're seeing with the European Union now in their attacks on free speech and the way that they're trying to create this, I guess you would say like a European Union standard for how content should be moderated.
	I feel like we would have more peaceful discourse online and there would probably be less social animus and less hostility and less political divisions if people felt like neither political ideology was being overamplified.
	What's your opinion of this?
	Because I think that we've all found ourselves on both sides of the aisle.
	Certainly, pre-Twitter 2.0, I found myself accusing big tech social media companies of being more left-leaning.
	And even now, right, I find myself criticizing and often questioning the amount of power and influence that tech billionaires have because I still find myself censored even though Trump is president.
	Yeah, and I have just registered on TrueSocial.
	My first post was reposting you.
	And I do feel that it has a much more of a community spirit where users do feel they have more control and less likely actually to abandon the platform when they don't feel that the decision-making and sensorial decisions and so on are managed by one person or a few persons, right?
	So I think that fosters genuine community conversations.
	The main technical question we're facing is whether this individual platform, such as TrueSocial, which is, by the way, free software, open source, and BlueSky, also free software, open source, whether it is possible to build relevant bridges so that it is not just the community nodes, which already happens after something that is very...
	Polarizing, very angry when viral, right?
	So how about community posts, not just community notes, and that you can post on your own communities on either TrueSocial, BlueSky or other open source communities.
	But then you then also have this additional label that does show that it is a common ground across all those different smaller platforms.
	And that, I think, will give the people much more control and much more understanding of each other beyond the models that is prototyped.
	So what is the best way to do that?
	Because I know you've talked about this idea, right?
	It's a concept that sounds ideal, right?
	This idea that people would have a community partnership in deciding what is true information, what is disinformation.
	But it still seems, as you just said, that these systems that have been created by X or have been created by Meta Are still not ideal because they still find themselves, you know, being influenced, in my opinion at least, by the political ideology.
	I often find myself wondering, like, who the hell is in control of community notes or who's in control of fact-checking?
	Because sometimes I see these community notes or fact-checks and they are just as absurd as the claims being made.
	Yeah, and over and over again, we have seen that it is currently in the advertisement field models.
	Only the advertisers, and especially very big advertisers, get to see the social fabric.
	You know, voted for, well, liked the same content, people who share similar content and so on.
	But that information is not made available to individual people.
	It is just made to the people who basically make the individualized advertisements so that it even derails us from the shared common experience even more because everybody was seeing different precision targeting of advertisements.
	So part of the paper is to imagine a different funding model where the communities can fund shared common experiences so that people think of the shared posts that bring the different communities together.
	Like in the example I just gave, if there's a post or there's a piece of video that could explain the more conservative angle to the libertarians and so on.
	And then for people who belong in those communities to have a way to bring those together.
	So that is what we call pre-bunking.
	Instead of debunking after the fact, we can have shared narratives before something that is fueled by hate or outrage.
	And again, it doesn't require censorship at all.
	It just requires building more bridge-making content.
	And so if people are interested in learning more about The People's Bid, thepeaceofpostbid.com has these ideas laid out on how it could be applied to TikTok if, of course, The People's Bid won the bid.
	But for the underlying ideas, there's also a book, plurality.net, that I co-wrote with 60 other people.
	And it's free software.
	Oh, here you go.
	Yeah, it's in the public domain.
	So there's no copyright.
	Feel free to remix as you want.
	Yeah, I have your book.
	And then you also have a film coming out as well in two weeks.
	So what can you tell us about your film?
	Sure.
	It's called Good Enough Ancestor, and it tells the story of Taiwan's democratization because I was born into a family of journalists.
	My parents are both journalists, and they had to work within the martial law era's rules, which is very sensorial.
	And by the time we really democratized, 1996, when we had our first presidential election, that is already the time of the browsers, of the World Wide Web, and so on.
	So from the very beginning, Internet freedom and our democratic freedom both are the same thing in Taiwan.
	And so we innovated a lot on how to defend our democracies without sacrificing our freedom.
	Because even though our own martial law era is over, there's still authoritarian neighbors to Taiwan from Beijing that still want to push this authoritarian agenda.
	Enough ancestors.
	So we're just getting that loaded up momentarily and we'll play it.
	Here's another quote from your paper.
	You said, instead of removing or shadow banning controversial content, Platforms should empower participants to help offer meaningful context.
	This could include clearly showing which communities embrace certain views or watch certain videos and labeling content as shared ground when it reflects widely accepted perspectives or different perspectives when it's more controversial.
	And so how would you, how would you, or I guess I should say, where would you draw the line?
	Because here in America, you have people that argue that certain content is hate speech, even though there's no such thing as hate speech because there's no hate speech exemption as it relates to the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.
	And so it's very subjective and it's become very political and partisan in nature because you have people who now have a distorted understanding of what the First Amendment means and the grounds of the First Amendment.
	The First Amendment does not protect incitement of violence or terroristic threats, but where would you draw the line as it relates to this system of creating shared ground policies for content moderation?
	Would you allow for things like For example, things that would automatically get you banned on social media like child porn or things like terroristic threats or support for groups like ISIS. Would this system allow for things like that to exist but with extreme social pressure so that the moderation would signal to society that this content is wrong or...
	It's shameful or something that should not be tolerated?
	Or would this system, given the fact that you're aiming for total decentralization, would it completely ban or silence content like that?
	Yeah, so I was also in Paris for the AI Action Summit, where we launched the Roost, the robust open online safety tools.
	And part of the Roost idea is that the defense against these attacks That are clearly unlawful, should be open source and decentralized as well.
	So for example, the child sexual abuse material that you mentioned is illegal to host, right?
	So this is not a matter of lawful or awful speech.
	This is basically illegal content.
	And for that, currently, we also rely on the largest of the big tech to tell whether that is the same material or not.
	Not only do small operators have to pay And so the idea of Roost is to, again, decentralize.
	Even small time hosters of content can very easily, automatically detect such unlawful content.
	And so it doesn't require the community vote even.
	But if you want to tune, you want to update and so on, you can do so without violating either some NDA or speak tech or violating any law.
	So I think the free expression is required.
	But underneath that, we need the robust online safety tools that detects Unlawful, not just awful content.
	So not awful content at all, but just unlawful content and can do so in a way that makes sure that the smaller operators can remain economic to run.
	But above that level, anything that is lawful, I do feel that we need to have both the fear support for free expression and a practical method.
	For communities to own the moderation tools so that the algorithmic manipulation cannot make the false virality of the faked polarization that wasn't there, but it was just one idea that was amplified because of the polarization attacks.
	But to do that, we don't need to censor anything.
	All we need is to share with communities a way to shape their own social media reality.
	Again, by making sure there's a freedom first way to label something as And you talk about a lot of this in your book, Plurality, the Future of Collaborative.
	Technology and democracy.
	So I would encourage that people check it out.
	But we also have a trailer for your film.
	And so just before we play the trailer for Good Enough Ancestor, I wanted to just give you a moment to tell the viewers what inspired you to make this film, when it comes out, and why people should watch the film.
	Sure.
	So I think the message here is that technology must advance freedom.
	Something that we really believe in in Taiwan, and we believe that America can also make this vision, amplify this vision a reality so that people do not need to trade off between freedom on one side and safety or security on the other, but rather using technology to enhance freedom in a way that puts the steering wheel, puts the reins into the hands of individuals and communities.
	Let me go ahead and play the trailer for the film.
	Across the world, democracy is on a decline.
	Authoritarianism is on the rise.
	Global freedom has eroded for the 18th consecutive year.
	Audrey Tom, what is your greatest hope for democracy across the globe?
	That people see democracy.
	As a social technology, something that people can construct together, that they can improve in the here and now.
	We can code up political systems.
	The sunflower movement was a real turning point for Taiwan's democracy.
	Go to the world!
	When the sunflower movement happened, I said to my colleague, I have to leave now.
	Democracy needs me.
	I brought a very long cable for internet connection.
	I live-streamed through Twitter.
	Everybody saw it is possible for democracy to evolve, to come up with novel policies simply by asking the people what should we do together.
	I was born with a heart defect and one day I just fainted.
	I woke up in a hospital and they told me the hole in my heart has grown.
	I could die.
	This awareness that everything can be reset tomorrow reminds me of Taiwanese democracy.
	We can't lose our democracy just with a couple missiles.
	I think there's a lot that the world can learn from Taiwan.
	The U.S. is running on a 250-year-old operating system.
	There is a strong desire to move beyond this and properly rethink from first principles.
	What would democracy in the 21st century actually look like?
	We can make the government more open to the public.
	It would be easier for people to access the data, to analyze it, transparency.
	Audrey has created the opportunity to make Taiwan the most exciting constitutional democracy in the world.
	I think it's a very critical moment.
	China really wants to invade Taiwan.
	You're sitting on a place that is the flashpoint if there's going to be World War III. And yet there's calm in the eye of the hurricane.
	And that calm, I think, emanates from all that Audrey's done.
	We can become co-creators of our democratic system.
	reconfiguring society in a way that is more transparent, more inclusive, more fair. - Very nice trailer there.
	When is the official release date for people who want to watch it and when can people watch it?
	Well, I think it's March 9th, and I'll be posting on TrueSocial and X.com and BlueSky and the usual places.
	Wonderful.
	And one thing I want to ask you, and it's a personal question, so you don't have to answer, but hopefully you will answer the question.
	But we've seen that a lot of the social moderation and a lot of the efforts to censor content online has been driven by the woke left, at least here in America.
	And some of the people and some of the groups that have been behind a lot of the censorship on these social media platforms, Have done so at the request of LGBTQ organizations.
	And what I find to be rather interesting about you is that not only are you Taiwan's first digital minister, but you're the world's first also transgender minister.
	And so...
	Given the fact that so many people in the LGBT community have pushed for censorship in terms of advocating for censorship of language or content that they think is disrespectful to the trans movement or the LGBTQ movement.
	What kind of attacks have you received personally from individuals in that community who maybe have accused you of fostering a community of hate simply because you are, it seems to be, pushing for true free speech absolutism, which also means allowing for people to say things that may be offensive to you?
	Well, I mean, I was born with the condition of very low testosterone.
	So it is true that I am somewhat between, naturally.
	But I've never let that bother me.
	So my pronouns are whatever.
	If people use any pronouns.
	I mean, in Taiwan, we say ta-ta-ta doesn't really matter.
	And so in my mind, there really is no such forced language changes that is needed for addressing me.
	My pronouns are officially whatever.
	Now, to your more serious question, I do think the absolute freedom of speech and mutual respect can coexist.
	The main problem was that in the broadcast-based social media, only the most viral ideas or the viral takes gets viral.
	And then people do not actually think that there's the other common sense, middle ground ideas that could have bridged the different communities together in a kind of mutual respect.
	And so each side caricature the other side as the worst version of that side and therefore makes it much harder than to have common sense conversations.
	And so do you ever find yourself receiving attacks for being a free speech absolutist or attacks from within, you know, certain communities for advocating for, you know, true free speech?
	Because we have seen there are efforts, especially within the algorithms, as you're mentioning, this algorithmic manipulation to silence and censor certain people based off their use of certain words or what some people would call slurs, right?
	Like anti-gay or anti-transgender or racist slurs.
	And so what I guess what kind of challenges have you faced personally from people in the free speech or technology community for your perseverance and also your dedication to having true free speech?
	Because we see a lot of people out there like to claim that they are for free speech.
	But there's always a caveat, right?
	Like, people sometimes censor whether you offend them.
	Like, we're told that X is truly a free speech platform, but many people found themselves being censored by Elon Musk because they simply got in a heated argument with him about H-1B visas or had a disagreement with him.
	And so while there's claims and accusations and statements made by a lot of people that they truly are 100% pro-free speech, we always see that there's a little...
	Disclaimer there.
	So I just wondered if you've been attached personally for promoting free speech absolutism and total decentralization in this approach to shared ground moderation, given your own personal background.
	Yeah, and as we speak, I think there's a very robust conversation going on in the Rumble chatroom, which I'm reading.
	And I think it's really good that we then have ways to directly address people's questions, right?
	Oh yeah, we can go to the chat too.
	Let's go to the chat and we can...
	Audrey Wattloff's questions.
	Yes, people are commenting, for example, that my pronouns are whatever, so they find it interesting.
	There's people who ask my support for safe spaces for women.
	Of course, I've always supported that.
	And so I think it is quite important that we have this direct.
	Because only direct conversations can build true bridges.
	If people only read one snapshot, one clip from the other, then those awful but lawful speeches may look like representing entire communities, but there's no real dialogue.
	So my answer to your direct question is that I do believe free speech is not just a speech to broadcast.
	It is also about broad listening.
	It is also about the freedom to listen across differences and then respond in real time.
	And if we have that freedom, then it's much harder to caricature the other side.
	And then it's basically easier than to resolve some of the tensions and some of the people's ideologies who then ask them to draw intolerant conclusions and so on.
	So I think the fact that we have the chat here is a proof that Absolute free speech and real-time response actually works better when we want to communicate around such things.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	I was just saying that I do find it to be admirable because you see a lot of big talk from people in this space who, you know, they say that they truly support free speech, but as soon as you say something that, you know, goes against their personal views or their, you know, personal preferences or their political ideology, you learn very quickly that they're not for free speech.
	I want to go to the chat and take a few questions because Audrey did say that she wants to answer a lot of questions.
	So let's...
	Let's scroll up.
	EarlyGX said, thank you, Audrey, for finding solutions to end censorship.
	Let's see.
	If you have questions, be sure to post your questions because Audrey wants to answer them.
	Let's see.
	There's a lot of...
	Comments, not necessarily questions, but there's a debate that's happening in the chat about whether AI needs to be regulated.
	Do you support the regulation of AI and given the growing influence of AI and you even see the Trump administration creating an AI czar, right?
	Having an entire AI department now and focus within the Trump administration to become the world's leader in AI and also cryptocurrency.
	What are your views on On the growing advancements in AI technology and how do you feel about AI regulation?
	Yeah, again, it's just like asking, oh, what do I feel about community moderation?
	And my answer is exactly the same.
	If it's in the hands of people and individual communities and families.
	Then it's a good thing because people can steer it however they want.
	If it is just in the hands of one or two persons, then that may not be the best idea because then it ends up being one or two people determining their worldview.
	of the entire society would be aligning the society to the logic, just like in social media algorithms, the logic of the creator of such algorithms instead of aligning this tool to people's uses.
	So as I mentioned, the Roost, the Robust Open Online Safety Tools, is a set of AI models.
	It is basically to safeguard against illegal material and so on.
	But the great thing about open source and free software...
	Is that people can tune it to their community's liking.
	So if your community has different standards for moderation and so on, that AI should be tuned and tamed, domesticated by your community, not by some place that's very far, either in Silicon Valley or somewhere else in Beijing, and you have no control over it.
	So my answer is that AI becomes assistive.
	Augmenting only if we control the tuning of AI and domestication of AI so that it suits our own purposes, not some abstract big techs purposes.
	Let's go to the chat again.
	A couple more questions.
	You scroll down.
	Let's see.
	Flydog777 said...
	Well, there's two questions here.
	How would we legislate a mandate or a law to embolden this?
	And then Marnie has a question.
	She says, what are steps we can take to support this?
	Yeah, that's both great questions.
	So in Taiwan, for example, we sent 200,000 SMS text messages from the official number 111 to ask random Taiwanese citizens what to do about the trolls, the defakes, the attack on information integrity online, and people share their ideas.
	And then we basically asked people to volunteer like a jury.
	So 450 people randomly selected, representing statistically Taiwan, came up on these online conversations in rooms of 10 people each.
	45 rooms had this conversation.
	And people definitely said, for example, that you should not be able to use money to buy this trollish influence that impersonates celebrities and, you know, get the celebrities to put words in their mouths that they have never said and so on.
	Those deepfake ads need to go.
	But we need to do that without censoring anyone.
	So how do we do that?
	So the people's idea is that if it is, for example, Audrey Tang's advertisement selling you something, Then it needs to secure a digital signature from Audrey Tang saying that I endorse this message.
	That's it.
	So if Facebook, for example, does not secure my signature and somebody gets scammed out of $2 million, then starting this year, Facebook in Taiwan is liable for that $2 million.
	So this fraud, scams, financial damage can be combated in a way that does not have censorship as its side effect.
	But rather it can simply require people who pay the money to digitally sign.
	So that, I think, the Anti-Fraud Act is a very sensible piece of legislation that I hope other jurisdictions would consider.
	But also the idea of coming up with such...
	Pro-freedom, not censorship solutions.
	That is also something that governments around the world can engage people more.
	So as for concrete ways to support this, I think the ideas of a decentralized social media is still pretty new.
	So spread that idea.
	You can find many of those policies, ideas, and thoughts in the Plurality.net book.
	And so the concept then of a digital signature, that would only then apply to advertisements to prevent scams.
	But how would you then go about, I mean, that doesn't necessarily address what some people would call trolls, because a lot of memes could be considered trollish.
	And so how do you go about that without censoring?
	Because some people would say that a meme is a troll, and then some people would say that a troll is a meme.
	Do you understand what I'm saying?
	Like it's all about your interpretation or I guess like if you're on the receiving end of the meme or you're just an observer because some people would say that actual commentary or satire or real memes, artistic memes, artistic expression could be trolls but then others would see it differently.
	Yeah.
	And so to go back to the Romania example that your vice president brought up in Munich, I think what happened there is not a simple meme, but rather some way for one person to control thousands of accounts.
	And as if there's like thousands of different people having different political views and so on, and then just trolling together.
	And so I think the idea here is not to censor.
	So if there's a foreign actor basically pretending to be 5,000 American people.
	That should be detected as soon as possible.
	And you can do it in a way that does not compromise privacy at all.
	In Taiwan, we have this idea of decentralized wallet, and it's an infrastructure that allows people to digitally sign, but without revealing any personal details.
	So I can sign saying that I'm a Taiwanese resident, or even that I'm a resident of Taipei City.
	It's a discussion about the city budget, but it does not reveal my name, where I live, my social security number, or really anything else.
	So this idea of selective disclosure, to let people prove that it is just one person behind it, to make it impossible for a foreign actor to control 5 million accounts, I think that is also the sort of infrastructure that we need to support together.
	So how would, to, I guess if you could provide an answer then to the question that was asked is how would people go about legislating this?
	Because our system here is a bit different and of course you have, you know, Congress and you have lawmakers and they have to draft up a bill and they have to get support and they have to take a vote for this bill on the floor of the House and they get approval in the Senate and then of course the bill goes to the desk of the President.
	So how, given our system here in the United States of America, do you foresee citizens going about getting Something like this legislated?
	Well, first of all, I think if something is shown to be technically possible and even preferred, then people will then put the pressure.
	I think one of the good things that the European Union did is to basically say that you must use the same standard for connectors without saying that which company makes the...
	And so they have this type C idea that we're all benefiting from.
	So we're not, you know, compelled to buy like five sorts of micro USB lining or whatever chargers.
	So imagine the same buffer social media so that instead of meta or X. Basically hoarding all the content.
	If you want to view such content on TrueSocial or on Blue Sky or some other smaller experiences, then you can freely do so.
	They cannot close the firehose, they cannot close the speech from being displayed in smaller communities.
	I think that is also something that interoperability, as we say, is something that's also worth fighting for, because again, it emboldens free speech.
	It makes it much harder for a larger platform to censor stuff.
	So if you're interested in this idea, there's some policy blueprints about that.
	You can find it in Project Liberty, the Project Liberty Institute.
	I also advise I'm a senior fellow there have such policy packages.
	And the hope is that we try it out in the TikTok people's bid if we get the bid from the McCourt O'Leary bid, or we can also try it in smaller places like True Social or Blue Sky.
	And once people see that it's really working well, then it transfers into legislative action.
	And then going along, well, just to kind of like pick your brain, I guess, on as it relates to authoritarianism, aside from the obvious, which is the CCP.
	and we've talked about that extensively here on Loomer Unleashed.
	What do you think right now is the biggest global authoritarian threat, especially as it relates to censorship and technology?
	We've seen the threat of China, and given your position as the cyber ambassador in Taiwan, I'm sure you're constantly worried about the threat of Chinese occupation.
	The threat of the CCP. But aside from the CCP and threats from Xi Jinping, what is the greatest global threat of authoritarianism right now?
	As I mentioned, the authoritarian narrative is not just about censorship.
	It is about pushing the meta-narrative that says freedom only leads to chaos.
	Freedom only leads to infighting.
	And this is also some, as you said, it's hard to tell a troll from a meme, right?
	So even though it may not be specifically CCP actors saying this, there's also people repeating this meme in freedom-loving countries and basically giving up hope that absolute freedom of speech, of expression, of assembly, and so on can coexist with mutual understanding.
	And so if we...
	Make this meme viral.
	If we say technology must advance freedom and freedom can lead to shared understanding, then that's a very powerful countermeasure, a counter-narrative to this narrative that says, oh, freedom only leads to infighting.
	Look at America, right?
	So I think we can all participate in this counter-narrative.
	Wonderful.
	Well, thank you so much for coming on my show tonight, and thank you so much for answering so many questions.
	We have a lot more questions, but you'll have to come on again, and hopefully people will read your book, Plurality, the Future of Collaborative Technology and Democracy, and then also your very exciting film, Good Enough Ancestor.
	I believe you said it comes out on March 9th.
	Where are people going to be able to watch that film?
	Well, I'll share it on True Social.
	My handle is AudreyTong there.
	I'm going to share it on X.com.
	My handle is AudreyT there and also on Blue Sky.
	Wonderful.
	And aside from those social media handles, where else can people follow you and your work?
	Well, I think most of all, I would like to invite people to follow the Plurality work.
	So on Plurality.net, you will find our Discord channel.
	Feel free to drop into the chat, so on and so forth.
	Wonderful.
	Well, thank you so much for coming on tonight.
	I really appreciate it.
	And thank you so much for speaking out about these issues and the work that you're doing to fight for free speech.
	And breach these subjects about censorship and authoritarianism and collaborative communication for the preservation of democracy on an international stage.
	I find it to be really interesting and of course I've been reading the book and reading your papers and I'm really looking forward to watching your movie when it comes out.
	Well, thank you.
	And thank you, people in the chat room, for being civil.
	And I see just now FlyDog777 says that it was informative and interesting.
	So that makes me really happy.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, well, thank you.
	Yeah, we have a lot of people on Rumble, but then we also have, let's see how many people on X, because I streamed the show on X and Rumble.
	So I don't know how many viewers we have right now on Rumble, but we have 60,000.
	So 60,000 live viewers right now on X. So hopefully everybody watching finds it to be rather informative.
	So be sure that if you're watching right now that you repost the live link on X and Rumble and also be sure that you follow Audrey on X and True Social.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you.
	Live long and prosper.
	Thank you.
	Wonderful.
	I hope you guys found that to be interesting.
	I personally find these subjects to be interesting given the fact that You know, I talk a lot about technocracy and the threat of the technocratic monarchy that is being pushed right now by the big tech oligarchs and whether you are a leftist or you're a conservative, I think that it would be completely naive and, I guess, short-sighted.
	To disregard the obvious fact that an oligarchy is taking place in our country.
	And even though I support President Trump and even though I voted for President Trump and even though I am in support of his policies, I do not support giving the wealthiest billionaires in the world access to make policy decisions within the White House.
	I just don't.
	I think it's dangerous.
	We oppose this.
	When the Democrats were doing this, when they were working hand-in-hand with the tech billionaires, and I think that for the sake of preserving free speech and the sake of having checks and balances and separation of powers and making sure that we can never again have Big tech censorship on the levels that we saw during the 2020 election.
	It's important that we have guardrails.
	So I've said before that we can be grateful for people like Elon Musk and appreciate what he's done in terms of purchasing X and his support of President Trump and his support financially of the conservative movement.
	But I also think that we need to be critical of the amount of influence that some of these big tech social media giants Are having, especially as we see them writing multi-million dollar checks and then getting positions within the White House, right?
	As we've seen with people like David Sachs and others and Mark Zuckerberg and, you know, you look at the individuals who are participating in these AI summits that they're having at the White House.
	I just think that we need to be cautious and we need to Be aware that the pendulum swings.
	And just because things are good right now for conservatives doesn't mean that things are always going to be good.
	I mean, how many of you thought that we were ever going to escape the censorship hell brought upon us by Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg and others when we were witnessing all of the egregious deplatforming and censorship in the aftermath of the stolen election and really just throughout the entire election process?
	Just like people now think that things are 100% certain and we have freedom of speech.
	I mean, there's still issues with censorship in this country.
	It doesn't mean that the pendulum cannot shift again.
	And so it's important that we start talking about developing these technologies and decentralizing our communication platforms and having conversations about how we can update our legislation as it relates to dealing with technology.
	Because technology is now having an ever-present role, not just in our day-to-day lives, but also in the way that we get our information, consume our news, and participate in political processes.
	So I hope that you found this interview to be informative and interesting and that you'll visit the Plurality.net site and also check out Good Enough Ancestor when it comes out.
	In about two weeks, because even though I'm a Trump supporter and things are good right now, I think it's great that President Trump's in control.
	We have control of the House and the Senate.
	Things could always change, and so you never want to get too comfortable.
	You always want to be paying attention to how technology is transforming society, how technology is transforming the world, and the...
	Ways that we can utilize technology to combat real authoritarianism.
	I'm not talking about the authoritarianism that people are accusing President Trump of.
	I'm talking about actual authoritarian movements that could take root in the flip of a dime.
	All around the world, right?
	As we've seen.
	But if we empower ourselves with technology, we can combat that.
	So I want to thank Audrey for coming on my program tonight.
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	Alrighty, now we're going to get into the craziness.
	So, there's an organization.
	Well, let's go ahead and just play these videos.
	We have to tell the story from the beginning.
	If you have been following my ex account and you've been following my reporting, then you know that...
	We've been covering a lot of the protests here at Loomer Unleashed over the last few weeks that have been popping up across the country.
	What am I talking about?
	I'm talking about these protests against Doge, these protests against Musk, these protests against President Trump, in which the Democrats claim to be against the stripping of funding from groups like USAID and the federal funding freezes that are now being attacked in lawsuits by people like Tish James and a consortium of several So
	it's quite ridiculous because these protests are essentially protesting the actions of the federal government to save you money.
	So I don't really understand what these people are protesting because Well, they have proven through these records and the documents that have been released that billions of our dollars, our taxpayer dollars, have been wasted on egregious leftist programs.
	They have gone into paying the salaries of...
	Leftist political operatives to are the executives of these organizations describing themselves as charities, but taking half a million to $1.5, $1.8 million salaries per year, as we exposed last week here on Loomer Unleashed with the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation.
	But that's just one of many organizations that are receiving grants and funding from the federal government.
	And of course, that funding is coming from your taxpayer dollars.
	People are very angry about this.
	There are a lot of people in the Democrat Party who are very angry about the defunding of useless organizations that are wasting your money.
	And so what are they doing?
	While they're occupying space on Capitol Hill, they are organizing protests with the Senate Democrats.
	They are organizing protests with Democrat members of the United States Congress.
	And look, I've said before, There are legitimate reasons to be critical of Elon Musk.
	I have been critical of Elon Musk.
	I got in a very viral fight with Elon Musk in which he called me a troll and he censored my account and he demonetized me for over a month.
	Now he's retweeting my content and sharing my content.
	I do not agree with everything that Elon Musk does.
	I do not agree with everything that Elon Musk says.
	But you gotta throw a dog a bone every so often, and you have to call a spade a spade, and you have to also give credit where credit's due.
	And I will say that Elon is doing a good thing in that he is helping save people's money.
	He is exposing the fraud and abuse and a waste of people's taxpayer dollars.
	Are there concerns about some of these staffers at Doge having access to people's personal information?
	Yes, I agree that people should have open transparency.
	Perhaps there should be cameras.
	Perhaps there should be some kind of a public explanation for every single step that is being taken or every piece of data.
	They're saying that they don't have access to people's information in the sense that they can't go in and make changes to You know, there are bank accounts.
	They can't make changes to their personal information.
	But there needs to be more transparency.
	I will agree with that.
	I agree with the left's claims and their request for more transparency.
	I think that everybody wants to have full transparency.
	But what is wrong about exposing fraud, waste, and abuse?
	What is wrong about exposing political corruption and a misuse of taxpayer dollars?
	I think a lot of these protests are Just kind of full of uneducated individuals.
	They're not really picking and choosing their battles and they certainly are not using effective messaging because, well, if you want to have effective communication about Doge and you want to say something like, you know, maybe staffers shouldn't be going around calling themselves big balls and hairy balls.
	Maybe the staffers should have a little bit more decorum.
	Maybe there should be more professionalism in the way that Doge conducts itself.
	People would listen if you actually had that conversation in a rational manner.
	But once you start advocating for violence or you start waving Hamas flags, it's end of discussion, period.
	It's a non-starter.
	And so we've seen over the last few weeks that a lot of these protests have also been sharing space with the Palestinian protesters who are waving Hamas flags and calling for an intifada and calling for an end to Donald Trump and Netanyahu.
	And then, unfortunately, Loomer unleashed.
	Captured footage of Luigi Mangione simps.
	I wish I was making this up, but there is a full-blown movement, apparently, that we discovered of Luigi Mangione supporters who are going to these anti-Donald Trump and anti-Elon Musk protests to protest Doge, protest Musk, protest Trump while...
	Advocating for actions to be taken against them, like Luigi Mangione allegedly took against UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.
	So let's go ahead and play the clip.
	If you're not familiar with who Luigi Mangione is, well, you know, he is the sensational Ivy League student who shot and killed, allegedly, they say.
	I mean, he hasn't had his trial yet.
	At point blank from behind the UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson a couple months ago in New York City as he was leaving his hotel room to speak at a healthcare conference in New York City.
	And it was a very theatrical murder that took place because you had like a, he got away.
	He got away.
	So there was this manhunt and a police chase and the bullet casings had the words.
	Defy, defend, depose, which was a reference to some publication about the way that healthcare executives are ripping people off.
	And then there was a backpack that was found with a bunch of Monopoly money.
	And so it was quite a sensational story.
	And then...
	You know, this guy, Luigi Mangione, happens to be relatively good-looking, and so you had people online that immediately created social media accounts supporting this individual and fanboying over him because he has a six-pack, and, you know, he's not my type.
	I wouldn't say that I find him to be, like, jaw-dropping sexy, but he certainly does have some physical attributes that are...
	Attractive.
	But again, you know, what's the trade-off?
	Are you going to be with somebody because they physically appear to be attractive while they could also be a cold-blooded murder?
	Or...
	You know, are we going to have standards?
	But unfortunately now in this age of social media and the viral nature of social media, there was a lot of sympathy for Luigi Mangione.
	There's even defense funds.
	It became the subject of a White House press briefing this last week because Caitlin Collins, who of course is the White House correspondent for CNN and also has her own show on CNN, found herself in a lot of heat.
	We can actually get this article pulled up before we show the video because I want to...
	Explain it all to you and kind of set the storyline for you so you can understand just how deranged this is.
	But not just how deranged it is, but also the type of mainstream media attention and support that this movement, even though it's insanely violent, is receiving.
	So here we have the article.
	Caitlin Collins fires back after conservatives criticized her ex-post on Luigi Mangione.
	So about a day or so before this protest was captured on video by Lumer Unleashed in Washington, D.C., Luigi Mangione, who of course is the alleged murderer of Brian Thompson, the UnitedHealthcare CEO, his legal defense team, and he comes from a very wealthy family.
	His family's very rich, and he has an all-star legal defense team.
	I believe the woman who is his defense lawyer, from my understanding, Is married to P. Diddy's lawyer, if I'm not mistaken.
	And so she's a she's a very high profile, high powered, expensive criminal defense attorney.
	And of course, you know, that has already generated its own media attention, given the fact that the P. Diddy case is as viral as it is and as controversial as it is.
	So why am I bringing this up?
	Because his defense team actually launched a Luigi Mangione defense website where his supporters and his fans, yes, and I mean his supporters and his fans.
	Do we actually have it?
	We could get it pulled up.
	Perhaps we could show people.
	Because it's quite unbelievable that a guy who allegedly, and I say allegedly because everybody is presumed innocent until they're found guilty in the court of law in A jury of their peers.
	So they believe that he is the guy who shot and killed Brian Thompson.
	But because there was so much outrage and there was, sadly, I guess this kind of the sense of resentment that so many people in our society feel because they feel as though our health care industry is broken, which it is, right?
	But that's not a reason to go murder somebody.
	He found a lot of sympathizers to his cause and people saying, wow, finally somebody shot and killed these healthcare executives.
	It's about time they had it coming.
	And it created this sort of vigilante excitement or this love or this newfound support for vigilantism against rich corporate CEOs.
	And so after this, you saw...
	A need for increased security from a lot of these healthcare executives and just executives in any industry really around the country because people were talking about how it was open season for executives or people who are making enormous amounts of money in industries where people often feel jilted or they feel afflicted.
	Luigi Mangione had all these people trying to send him commissary money, sending him money, asking if they could donate.
	You had all these rich women that found him to be sexy and attractive contacting his legal team, asking if they could pay for his legal fees.
	And so they have a public fund where people could actually send him fan mail, send him money, and fund his public defense.
	And now you have people who are actually dressing up in Luigi costumes across the country.
	And that's another thing.
	Because his name was Luigi, it sparked this whole internet meme culture viral sensation.
	Because obviously, you know, you have like Super Mario Kart.
	And so people were like, it's me, Mario!
	You know, and like they're making all the Luigi Super Mario Kart memes about this guy.
	Who also kind of ironically looks like Luigi because he has like the really big black bushy eyebrows.
	I mean, it's kind of entertaining in the sense that he does look like Luigi from Super Mario Kart.
	So here's the legal defense page that his attorney set up for him.
	That Caitlin Collins actually shared.
	And people were accusing Caitlin Collins of promoting his fund because she has over a million followers on social media.
	They were like, oh, wow, does Caitlin Collins support this?
	Does she support, you know, the assassination of executives?
	Because, well, everybody knows that Caitlin Collins, who used to, ironically, be a conservative, now is a rabid leftist and a rabid Trump hater.
	So it says, Luigi Mangione legal defense information due to the extraordinary volume of inquiries and outpouring of support.
	Outpouring of support for a guy who allegedly shot and killed a healthcare executive at point blank.
	Okay, so this is the kind of like twisted world we're living in now.
	This site was created and is maintained by Luigi Mangione's New York legal defense team to provide answers to frequently asked questions, accurate information about his cases, and to dispel misinformation.
	The intent is to share factual information regarding the unprecedented multiple prosecutions against him, and he has been charged with terroristic actions.
	I know that, you know, he had this very...
	A dramatic perp walk by Eric Adams, the mayor of New York City.
	And, you know, it almost looked like...
	I think we could even find the photo.
	If you type in Luigi Mangione perp walk, I mean, it almost looked like it was out of a movie scene in the way that they were trying to sensationalize this guy.
	And, of course, here we go to the photo.
	Let's go to the photo and you can see it.
	See, they have, like, all these people around them.
	You have Eric Adams in the background, SWAT officers.
	Just for one guy, right?
	So it's quite dramatic.
	Very dramatic.
	Very dramatic perp walk for Luigi Mangione.
	Let's go back to his defense page.
	Because there's a reason I'm showing you this.
	They actually posted a message from him.
	It said, I'm overwhelmed by and grateful for everybody who has written me to share their stories and express their support.
	Powerfully, this support has transcended political, racial, and even class divisions as mail has flooded MDC, I guess his prison facility, from across the country and around the globe.
	While it is impossible for me to reply to most letters, please know that I read every one that I received.
	Thank you again to everyone who took the time to write.
	I look forward to hearing more in the future.
	He's literally getting fan mail and people are, you know, sending him.
	Fan mail, because they are idolizing this guy who allegedly murdered the UnitedHealthcare CEO. Scroll down.
	Let's see.
	What does the attorney say?
	Yeah, so Karen Friedman, Agnifilo, I believe her name is.
	And then Mark, that's her husband.
	So that's a powerhouse husband-wife team.
	And again, as I said before, they received a lot of attention because they have high-profile clientele, including P. Diddy, from my understanding.
	Luigi is represented by Thomas Dickey of Tom Dickey Law Offices in Pennsylvania.
	So he has the money to have a high-powered defense team.
	His family has enormous wealth, and it's my understanding that Luigi Mangione himself was the heir to an enormous fortune.
	When this happened, when Luigi Mangione was accused of and arrested and charged with What they say is the murder of Brian Thompson.
	There was this push for class consciousness and there was this push for class divisions and a glorification of...
	Of people going out and murdering the rich, right?
	This whole eat the rich mentality or eat the rich, kill the rich mentality that we often see is promoted by Marxists.
	And so what did we find?
	What did Loomer Unleashed uncover when we were on the ground looking at all these different protests this week?
	Well, we found the Luigi Mangione fan club!
	And they were there.
	They were actually present at the anti-Trump and anti-Musk protests against Doge.
	And they were advocating for the murder of Elon Musk and the murder of Donald Trump and Doge officials.
	And so we're going to play this video for you.
	And we have several videos actually back-to-back.
	This first one is our interaction with the guy that's holding up a sign advocating for the assassination of...
	Elon Musk and Donald Trump because these are the words on the sign that were on the bullet casings found next to Brian Thompson's body.
	And they also put the Super Mario bullet on the sign.
	So we're going to play these two videos back to back for you.
	Clearly, there's an effort to not just go out and kill healthcare executives and to celebrate and glorify people who murder healthcare executives because people feel like they're getting ripped off by healthcare companies.
	But now this has also transcended to a movement where people feel emboldened enough.
	Because of the glorification of these defense funds with high-profile attorneys and the way that the media is sensationalizing this and Caitlin Collins of CNN sharing the defense fund to actually go out on Capitol Hill in front of media without wearing a mask and advocate for the cold-blood murder of Trump administration officials.
	Let's go ahead and play these clips I'm trying to figure out the meaning of this sign Okay, thank you very much.
	Bye!
	We stand with you.
	We stand with you.
	So, are you- do you support Uliji Mandelon?
	Is he like your hero?
	Is that why you're making a sign like this?
	I'm just leaving alone.
	I mean, he's putting a sign up that's threatening CEOs, so, like, it's...
	Nah, I'm gonna talk to him.
	I'm not going to leave him alone.
	I mean I'm just asking like who's your hero politician?
	Wait, so you guys are cool with, like, people threatening people's lives?
	Because that's what this sign is doing.
	It's threatening people's lives.
	I'm just going to ask one more time.
	Raise your right hand, guys.
	Let's get rid of this guy.
	I mean, I guess you can get...
	So your cause is killing CEOs?
	Is that your cause?
	Well, that's what I'm asking.
	I'm saying...
	You're calling me an extremist?
	and you're the one holding up for all the Ouija signs?
	You're literally holding a sign.
	Alright.
	Alright, you guys are angry.
	Seems like they're angry they've been exposed.
	Oh, so now you're blocking the Alleghi sign with an F-Trump sign.
	Alright.
	So they don't want to answer if they think killing Elon Musk is a good idea.
	And now they're blocking with F-Trump sign.
	And now look, they're taking pictures of me.
	Oh, this guy's now talking to me.
	Are you cool with that sign?
	You're literally threatening the president's life with a sign.
	And all I'm asking is, why did you make that sign?
	And you guys are freaking out.
	I like you videotaping me.
	All he has to do is answer my question.
	Like, do you think threatening the president's life is appropriate?
	Alright.
	All right, so I guess he's cool.
	Whoa.
	Whoa.
	No fascist USA! No Trump! No KKK! No fascist USA! No Trump! No KKK! No fascist USA! No Trump! No KKK! No fascist USA! No Trump! No KKK!
	No fascist USA! No KKK!
	Oh, may I ask?
	Is Luigi like a good...
	Is he like a good role model for you?
	You know, he's calling attention to things that we need to be paying more attention to, which is the fact that people are dying because of a lack of health insurance.
	Who's your favorite politician?
	My favorite politician?
	Who is my favorite politician?
	I like Marx.
	Marx is great.
	What if I like any in Congress right now?
	Converse is compromise, that's for sure.
	So she says that her favorite politician is Karl Marx.
	Okay, so the father of Marxism.
	And first of all, he's not a politician.
	Secondly...
	She's asked point blank by Charles Downs, who of course is our Loomer Unleashed DC correspondent, whether or not Luigi Mangione is inspiring to her and whether or not he's a hero.
	And she says that, well, you know, he's bringing awareness to issues that really matter and he's bringing awareness to things that are really important.
	Like what?
	Like murdering people in cold blood?
	Because you don't agree with them and you don't agree with their policies or you don't like the fact that they're CEO of a company or multiple companies like Elon Musk is.
	So it's pretty brazen.
	I mean, just imagine.
	Imagine going out there.
	Like, we've seen stories before of women who get crushes on serial killers and they've done documentaries on this or there's...
	True crime stories about this where you have these women who become fascinated with serial killers and they fall in love with them and they write love letters to them and they communicate with serial killers.
	And serial killers, even though some of them are in prison for the rest of their life, have these romances with these weird women who fall in love with them.
	You have these women who are now falling in love with Luigi Mangione, and they're idolizing him, and they're trying to satisfy him and please him and be like him.
	And this is not a conspiracy theory.
	We just showed you two individuals who, by...
	You know, their own admission.
	We're there in support of Luigi Mangione and using the signage.
	And we can get the screenshot up again.
	Here's Elon Musk replying.
	He actually replied to the tweet, the video, when we first posted it.
	So he said, let's go get the other one first.
	He said, they're going way too far.
	A man was actually murdered by Luigi and they tried to kill the president twice.
	This is not okay at all.
	So scroll down so people can see it.
	Yeah, that was in reply.
	Scroll up.
	No, scroll up and open up the tweet.
	This one, yeah.
	They're going way too far.
	A man was actually murdered by Luigi and they tried to kill the president twice.
	This is not okay at all.
	So that's Elon Musk replying to the video that we posted.
	You can scroll up and you can see the original video.
	We said the protest is happening right outside the U.S. Capitol.
	The Women's March posted in solidarity of it.
	As you can see, attendees include members of the Free Palestine Movement and radical leftists who are calling for someone to murder, aka Luigi Mangione, Donald Trump, and Elon Musk.
	And then we have another tweet from Elon Musk in response to the video where he said, advocating for the murder of the president is a serious crime and they have the gall to do so on President's Day.
	Letting Eagle Martin, Ed, know about this.
	And you can click on Ed Martin's handle.
	Ed Martin, U.S. Attorney, District of Columbia.
	So it's been, I guess you could say, moved up the totem pole of Elon Musk, who is now officially tech support for the White House and has the president's ear and has the ear of all these Trump administration officials.
	I'm sure that it's also been sent to Secret Service.
	We actually got a photo of the guy's face.
	Let's see if we can get that tweet pulled up, too.
	We zoomed in.
	I believe we have that image.
	Get that pulled up.
	But we have the guy's face zoomed in so you can actually see firsthand what he looks like because Elon Musk had said he wanted to report him.
	So there's the guy's face.
	Go back to the other photo.
	And it says the sign.
	Go back to the video so that we can get another screenshot of the video and see the full like the sign on the video.
	It says Elon Don, Luigi says, deny, defend, depose.
	And you see the little Luigi face, because it's Luigi Mangione, and then the Super Mario bullet.
	Let's go to a browser and type in, deny, defend, depose, so you can see what I'm talking about.
	Go to Google. Do this in real time.
	Go to all and type in news.
	Okay, here you go.
	Click on that one.
	So, as I said before, the words on the ammunition in the CEO's shooting echo common phrase on insurer tactics, delay, deny, defend.
	So, this is how they kind of like piece together the fact that the guy who murdered Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, had something against the healthcare executive or was doing this in a vindictive, kind of vigilante manner because there was a book or there was a publication that had this phrase in there, delay, deny, defend.
	So you scroll down so that people can...
	I can see what this is.
	So, a message left at the scene of a health insurance executive's fatal shooting, deny, defend, and depose, echoes a phrase commonly used to describe insurer tactics to avoid paying claims.
	The three words, deny, defend, depose, were written on the ammunition a mass gunman used to kill UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, according to two law enforcement officials who spoke with the Associated Press on the condition of anonymity.
	Excuse me.
	They're similar to the phrase delay, deny, defend the way some attorneys describe how insurers deny services and payment and the title of a 2010 book that was highly critical of the healthcare industry.
	Well, then, of course, Luigi Mangione was arrested and he was charged and now he's awaiting his trial.
	So go back to the photo and you can see firsthand what does that sign say?
	Elon Don, Luigi says, deny, defend, oppose, and it has the bullet.
	You see the little Super Mario bullet.
	That's clearly an incitement of violence.
	I mean, they said that this guy, Luigi Mangione, allegedly shot and killed Brian Thompson, and the bullet casings had the words, deny, defend, oppose.
	So, if you see a sign with a bullet, with a guy that looks like Luigi, and they're dressed like Luigi, too, because that's the jacket.
	if you recall what Luigi Mangione was wearing.
	Let's go to the photo of Luigi Mangione or Luigi, just maybe type in like Luigi Mangione green jacket.
	You can see here when they release these images, click on the New York Post right there.
	Jacket, click on that whole thing, yeah.
	Jacket.
	This is so crazy, okay?
	This is just, you know, how crazy people are.
	Jacket worn by alleged UnitedHealthcare shooter Luigi Mangione is flying off the shelves.
	So, you can scroll down.
	A green trucker jacket similar to that of alleged UnitedHealthcare CEO killer Luigi Mangione has reportedly surged in sales as the internet frenzy over his looks continues.
	According to Complex, the Sherpa-lined hooded jacket from Levi's, which rings in at $225, is flying off the shelves after a Reddit user speculated that it was the same coat worn by the accused killer.
	CCTV footage from the day of CEO Brian Thompson's murder in Midtown shows the shooter wearing a green hooded jacket, not unlike the viral Levi's coat.
	He's wearing a green jacket.
	These people are crazy.
	They're dressing up like Luigi Mangione.
	They're using the words that he had on the bullet casings allegedly that he allegedly used when he shot and killed.
	Allegedly, of course.
	And we're only saying this because even though people really believe that Luigi Mangione murdered Brian Thompson, everybody is entitled to their trial and a jury of their peers.
	I think it's pretty crazy.
	This is the outfit that was worn by Luigi Mangione, and this was the outfit and the exact words that were on the bullet casings.
	So how are we supposed to react to somebody doing this?
	It's clearly incitement of violence.
	It's clearly a threat.
	It's clearly a call for the assassination of the President of the United States, which is a crime.
	Go back up to my other tweet because I believe I put the fines and the penalties there so people could see.
	Scroll down what the actual fine is.
	Scroll down.
	Maybe it's in my other tweet.
	I had a tweet where I posted the actual fine for what it was.
	was.
	I'll just have to look it up myself, I guess.
	When you call for the assassination of the president, you Thank you.
	We'll just look it up in real time.
	Threatening the president of the United States is a Class D felony under United States Code Title 18, Section 871.
	It is punishable by up to five years in prison with a maximum fine of $250,000, a $100 special assessment, and up to three years of supervised release.
	You know, it's crazy that nothing is being done about this.
	I mean, we have President Trump in the White House now, so it's fine.
	Just forget about it.
	I already pulled it up.
	So we have the penalties here for threatening the President of the United States, and it's a Class D felony under United States Code Title 18, Section 871. Why are these people not going to prison?
	Why is the Secret Service not arresting these people?
	I mean, you clearly see it.
	You can, if you want to pull it up, Cannon, just type in, if you want to pull it up on the big screen for people to see, just type in punishment for threatening to kill the President of the United States so that people can actually see this firsthand.
	You can just type it in on Google if you want.
	But where is the Secret Service?
	Where is the FBI? Now you see firsthand why the Democrats are slow walking the confirmation of Kash Patel as FBI director.
	We've talked about this extensively here on Loomer Unleashed, right?
	Here we go.
	Punishable, just so you all can see that what I'm saying is verifiable.
	Thank you, Cannon.
	It is punishable up to five years in prison, a maximum fine of $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.
	So if you can go to jail for five years for threatening to assassinate the president, why do people feel so emboldened under the current Trump administration to dress up like Luigi Mangione and walk around with signs advocating for the assassination of President Trump?
	I don't know.
	I think it's pretty crazy.
	Let's get your comments in the chat.
	I want to see what you all have to say about this and whether you think that, why you think, I guess, why you think that these people have not been arrested.
	What do you think, Cannon?
	Obviously, they can't hear you, but I want to know what everybody thinks because it's insane to me that people are walking around dressed up like Luigi, saying that he inspires them.
	You saw that one girl dress up in a Luigi costume and you see this guy dressed up in the jacket.
	How are these people not on FBI watch lists?
	How are these people not being arrested or fined or jailed for attempting to assassinate the President of the United States?
	And why are people just allowing this behavior to happen after two thwarted assassination attempts on President Trump's life?
	Just absolutely crazy.
	Absolutely out of control.
	And now you see why the Democrats, as I said before, are slow walking this nomination.
	Tomorrow, we're going to see the vote.
	We're going to finally have a vote, perhaps, in the Senate Judiciary Committee to allow for a final floor vote in the Senate.
	We need to move Kash Patel's vote out of the committee, the Senate Judiciary Committee.
	And who runs the Senate Judiciary Committee?
	Well, Dick Durbin!
	His photo is the photo used by Judiciary Dems if you go to their X account.
	So if you go to the Judiciary Dems X account, you have Dick Durbin's face as their profile photo.
	There you go.
	One big giant dick.
	Dick Durbin, the chairman.
	Senate Judiciary Democrats, here's our X account.
	Why am I bringing this up?
	Why does this have any relevancy?
	Well, along with these leftist protesters, these Marxists who were, you know, advocating for the assassination of Trump and Elon and supporting Luigi Mangione and supporting his message and basically cosplaying an alleged assassin.
	Dick Durbin's daughter, by the name of Jen Durbin, who we've spoken about on the show before, because as As you know, if you are a viewer of the show, Jen Durbin put out scripts that her father gave her, and the scripts had instructions for how people should call and complain against President Trump's nominees.
	So why is this a conflict?
	Because Senator Dick Durbin is supposed to be an objective observer and participant within this confirmation process.
	And these scripts somehow made their way to his daughter's Facebook page in which they were advocating for people to use an actual script.
	Like, not organic political organizing, not organic phone canvassing for politicians, but a script.
	And I have a tweet that I just posted about two hours or so ago before coming on my show live.
	And I quote tweeted it because, well, we broke the story about Jen Durbin and the scripts about a week or two ago.
	But here we have, right here, if you scroll up a little bit, exclusive.
	These are from yesterday.
	Senator Dick Durbin's daughter attends and promotes protests calling for Doge to be wood-chipped.
	Yes, actual violence.
	Jen Durbin, the daughter of ranking Senate Judiciary Democrat Senator Durbin, attended the Democrat-led protests yesterday against the confirmation of Kash Patel, where attendees were advocating for violence against Doge, Elon Musk, and Donald Trump.
	Her father, Dick Durbin, is on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
	You can scroll down a little bit, please.
	His face is their ex-profile picture, as Cannon just showed you, which is the committee that is supposed to hold a vote tomorrow to move Kash Patel's nomination to the Senate floor for a final vote.
	In the pics below that I obtained from Jen's Instagram account, you can see that she posted pictures of violent signs that advocated for Doge to be wood-chipped.
	As well as signs attacking Trump's nominees, Kennedy, Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard, and Kash Patel.
	Egregious bias on display.
	So you can scroll down and you can see here the images.
	And CCP's skip tracer was nice enough to put the red arrows on these photos.
	If you could please click the first photo and enlarge it so that we could see that.
	Durbin Jen.
	Obviously, that is her Instagram account.
	Dick Durbin's daughter.
	Her post from yesterday, chance rang out, caught the tail end, February 28th, national boycott, buy nothing day, spread the word.
	And the sign clearly says, are you able to click and zoom in a little bit just on that sign?
	Is it possible?
	Okay, zoom in just a little bit more.
	Okay.
	It says, fuck fascists, woodchip doge.
	Well, what does that mean?
	We all know what a woodchipper looks like.
	They want doge to be put in a woodchipper.
	Now, there are very gruesome incidents of human beings falling into woodchippers.
	You can go to Google and you can type in woodchipper death.
	Maybe there's photos, I don't know.
	I'm not going to look at photos of the actual woodchipper death, but you can look at news stories.
	Type in news.
	Okay.
	So here's an example, right?
	Horrible loss.
	Man killed in woodchipper accident in Ocean Ridge.
	Okay, that happened three weeks ago.
	Florida tree trimmer dies after he unexpectedly gets pulled into woodchipper.
	So...
	It's a really terrible way to die.
	You can scroll down.
	Teen pulled into commercial woodchipper dies.
	Scroll down.
	This just happened three weeks ago.
	Let's click on this New York Post story.
	Florida tree trimmer killed after getting caught in woodchipper while working at town hall.
	So it's obviously incitement to violence against Elon Musk and his doge officials because, well, you know, what does that mean?
	So like wood chip something, put something in it and have it be grinded like a meat grinder.
	You die if you fall into a wood chipper.
	I don't need to explain it.
	There are probably photos or examples of things like this or, you know, the aftermath.
	We're not going to show the photos here, but I'm sure that if you really wanted to see what the aftermath of going through a wood chipper looked like, you could probably find that online if you did enough research.
	But essentially it's very, very gruesome.
	It's very brutal.
	Imagine a human being being put in a meat grinder.
	That's basically, What it would be like to woodchip something.
	So it is an incitement of violence, and Senator Dick Durbin, who is on the Senate Judiciary Committee, who is going to be participating in this vote tomorrow, his daughter is out there posting this on her social media.
	So let's go back to the photos so that people can see.
	There you go, woodchip doge.
	Let's go to the next photo.
	There was one more photo in the tweet.
	If you just scroll next, yeah.
	So here you go, the other arrow there.
	Y'all can't be serious.
	Chants rang out, caught the tail end.
	February 28th, national boycott, Jen Durbin.
	They're talking about Trump's nominees.
	Robert F. Kennedy, Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard, and Kash Patel, who of course is the last one for his confirmation hearing.
	They need to bring it to a floor vote in the Senate.
	So RFK has been confirmed.
	Hegseth's been confirmed.
	Just last week, Tulsi Gabbard was confirmed.
	So just ask yourself, is this really kosher?
	Should this be happening?
	Should the children of U.S. senators who are on these committees overseeing this process be allowed to post incitement of violence against President Trump's nominees?
	And why are we not seeing condemnation from Senator Dick Durbin of these actions?
	Let's go to the chat.
	I want to get people's views.
	Put your questions in the chat.
	Before we...
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	Let's go to the chat before we start exploring the funding sources for the groups that are behind these protests, these protests that we're now seeing, these violent protests all across the country, because some people are wondering.
	Who's behind it?
	The Democrats sometimes deny that they're affiliated with or associated with these protests that are inciting violence, where people who are fanboys and fangirls of Luigi Mangione are showing up, calling for the assassination of President Trump and Elon.
	We're going to prove to you that they are tied to the Democrats tonight.
	Any comments, any questions before we move on to these funding sources?
	We're going to expose this tonight live on Loomer Unleashed.
	Scroll up.
	Let's see what people say.
	Okay, a couple questions, then we'll get started.
	Let's see.
	Let's see.
	How many chips would a woodchipper chip and a woodchipper would chip chips?
	I don't know.
	Somebody said, my great-grandfather was pulled into a combine.
	Terrible.
	That is terrible.
	You can scroll up.
	Somebody said the movie Fargo has a scene for the wood chipper.
	Kimmy B said, Trump will make sure cash is confirmed no matter what the rhinos are trying to do, and believe me, it is the rhinos causing the delays.
	Well, the Democrats are also causing the delays.
	All of them are really causing the delays.
	I mean, look, John Thune said that they weren't going to allow for anybody to have a vacation or anybody to have a weekend until all of President Trump's nominees were confirmed.
	But they all just went to Germany, right?
	We all just saw them go to Germany for the security conference, and then they came back today.
	Congress is out for the rest of the week, the House is at least, and so the Senate's meeting tomorrow.
	And I guess we're going to see if they're going to continue obstructing.
	Who's funding these protests, though, right?
	Who is behind this event?
	Who is behind this protest where people were dressed up like Luigi Mangione calling for the assassination of Elon Musk and President Trump?
	Well, let's go back to the screenshot of that Women's March Facebook post or that Instagram post that they made.
	Because it has some interesting information on there.
	And then you can see how we figured this out.
	So the day of the protest, which is President's Day yesterday, the Women's March posted this on their official Instagram account.
	It said, Not my president, no kings in America national actions on February 17th.
	The Women's March is in solidarity with local feminist leaders and everyday people taking action on Monday, February 17th.
	As part of the Not My President, No Kings in America national actions.
	While our country faces an administrative coup led by Trump and his billionaire allies, this fight for our democracy calls for all of us to do everything that we can to protect our freedoms.
	Across the country, people are rising up in decentralized actions to make their opposition heard.
	We encourage everyone to find or organize an action in their community and add their voice to this fight.
	We will not be silent.
	We will not give in.
	We resist.
	Hashtag not my president.
	Hashtag 50-51 movement.
	No kings in America.
	Hashtag remain visible.
	We started looking and of course there were several news articles because There were a lot of these protests that really popped up all across the country.
	It wasn't just in New York where Jen Durbin attended.
	No, it was also Washington, D.C., but also other cities across the country.
	If you want to canon, please get those articles pulled up so that people can see what we're talking about as it relates to these different articles that attribute these protests to this movement called 50-51.
	And no, I'm not talking about like 50 and then 51. 5-0-5-0-1.
	5-0-5-0-1.
	What does that stand for?
	Well, it stands for 50 protests, 50 states, one day, or one movement, because they're planning on doing this, not just on one day.
	So you can scroll up.
	There's our flyer for it.
	What we know about nationwide...
	I'm sorry, scroll up a little bit more.
	What we know about nationwide anti-Trump protests on February 5th.
	Well, these also happened the other day as well.
	Post...
	Scroll up a little bit.
	Posts on various social media platforms called for demonstrators to show up at all 50 U.S. state capitals.
	Here we go.
	We have the flyer there.
	50 protests, 50 states.
	There's a subreddit.
	So there's a subreddit, r slash 5051. You can see the subreddit right there.
	They're promoting this on Reddit.
	So it's a movement that really originated on Reddit, but it has actual infrastructure behind it.
	It's not just some...
	Some online movement where it's a bunch of people posting on a Reddit thread.
	No, it actually has, from our research here at Loomer Unleash and what we found, ties to Democrat organizations, ties to political PACs, ties to the Democrat Party, believe it or not.
	Surprise, surprise.
	Scroll down.
	In late January 2025, social media users on multiple platforms began calling for people to join nationwide protests against U.S. President Donald Trump's administration.
	The Post claimed that the demonstrations were set to be held in all 50 states on February 5th, 2025. Well, obviously, President's Day was yesterday.
	For example, one user shared an image that read, 50 protests, 50 states, one day.
	Right?
	50, 50, one.
	It also included the date and listed the location as your state's capital.
	You can see here it has Black Lives Matter imagery because this movement is also tied to the Black Lives Matter movement.
	Another user called for people to join 50 peaceful protests in 50 oppressed states for one day at your state capitol.
	A sentence at the bottom of the post said that the protests were taking place Due to quote, Trump being in the White House illegally according to Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
	Now, of course, we're familiar with Section 3. Of the 14th Amendment because it became the basis for which secretaries of state in multiple states filed lawsuits to try to kick Trump off the ballot during the election, citing this what they called a Civil War Clause to accuse him of inciting an insurrection.
	This clause, right, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is often called the Civil War Clause or the Insurrection Clause.
	Critics of Trump argued that because he had incited an insurrection, which he did not at the United States Capitol, he was unqualified or rather disqualified from holding office if he engaged in an insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution.
	Well, clearly, you know, the American people found this to be bullshit because, well, Donald Trump won the election in a resounding mandate.
	But of course, this so-called insurrection is a reference to the January 6th protests.
	So what happens when you pull up 50-51?
	Let's go to the website.
	We're going to do this in real time so that you can see how these investigations are done.
	So if you're interested in trying to identify the funding sources or if you're watching this and you are interested in doing investigative reporting yourself, we're going to show you in real time how you do this so that you can also start tracking the people who are behind these violent protests.
	They say that they're not violent.
	It's really laughable.
	Like, what do you call Luigi Mangione fanboys and fangirls showing up advocating for the assassination?
	I wouldn't say that that is exactly peaceful.
	5050.1, that is their website.
	You can scroll up so that people can see the URL. 5050.1, it takes you to this page, 5051. About events, join us.
	50 protests, 50 states, one movement.
	Join us in the fight to uphold the Constitution and end executive overreach.
	And they're on Reddit.
	Clearly you can see here that this is the same group because they lead with the Reddit, the 5051 subreddit.
	So it's a very organized movement.
	It's not just like a bunch of anarchists or leftists or resistors on Reddit posting in some thread.
	They have an Instagram page that has 75,000 followers.
	50-51 movement.
	They have a Reddit sub-thread.
	They have, I believe that's Blue Sky.
	They have a Blue Sky profile that has 59,000 followers.
	And you can see too, like from their posts, if you go back to their Blue Sky account, they're pretty radical.
	So we are continuing from this moment to the next step.
	The establishment is not the answer.
	You can scroll down.
	Scroll down.
	See, that's the massive anti-Trump-Musk protest in Manhattan for President's Day.
	That's the one that Dick Durbin's daughter attended.
	This is very, very coordinated.
	You can see here they have Marxist imagery here.
	They have volunteers available.
	They clearly have a digital media team.
	They have money behind them.
	It's not just a bunch of angry resistors.
	Let's go back to their website.
	They have a Facebook page.
	They're collecting data, so they're gathering email lists.
	They're gathering phone numbers so that they can organize.
	This is not just a regular movement where you have a bunch of disorganized activists online.
	This is a very organized movement.
	Exit out of that so we can see what their Facebook page says.
	Scroll down.
	How many followers does their Facebook have?
	15,000 followers.
	So not as many as their other platforms, but still, it's getting there.
	Four hours ago, since today is a day of rest for organizers and those who marched, I want to remind everyone that self-care is an act of revolution.
	So these are Marxists.
	They are actively calling for a revolution, a Marxist revolution here in America.
	Take care of yourself.
	Take care of your family.
	Rest so that you're ready for the next big thing.
	Burnout is real.
	You can't keep going if you're not taking care of yourself.
	Open that up again.
	Let's see what they're saying in the rest of their post.
	Meanwhile, drop some more protest photos here and share your best self-care tips.
	You can scroll down.
	The protests yesterday were amazing and we're still processing things, but I want to remind you all of something very important.
	These serve a second function besides just protests.
	Get to know your neighbors, right?
	So they're trying to encourage people to have a sense of community or family in these protests.
	Let's go back to their website.
	Scroll down a little bit.
	You can see their actions.
	5051 is a peaceful movement.
	Violence of any kind will not be tolerated.
	Obviously, they're lying because we see that they tolerate and they have open tolerance for Luigi Mangione fanboys and fangirls.
	I mean, what does that mean?
	Deny, defend, depose?
	Pew, pew, pew!
	That's what that means.
	We know that.
	So, again, lie number one detected.
	You are not a peaceful movement, and violence of any kind is clearly tolerated.
	You can see their description.
	50-51 protests were a decentralized rapid response to the anti-democratic and illegal actions of the Trump administration and its plutocratic allies.
	The idea 50 protests in 50 states on day one was born on the subreddit thread and spread rapidly on social media.
	In just days, grassroots organizers without any budget, centralized structure, or official backing pulled off over 80 peaceful protests in 50 states.
	Yeah, that's a lie too because they say that they don't have a budget and they say that they don't have any official backing.
	Let's continue throughout the site.
	The fight continues.
	Okay, so they say they have no funding and they say that it's entirely grassroots.
	Well, here are their partners.
	Political revolution.
	Let's click on political revolution.
	What is political revolution?
	Well, political revolution is a progressive hack.
	Political revolution advances politics in America through progressive grassroots activism.
	Our political action committee, if they have no funding, why are they partnered with a funding source?
	A political action committee is a vehicle for funding.
	Our political action committee is dedicated to electing progressive candidates and also supporting issues focused On efforts to transform our government so it represents all of our citizens, not just the wealthy few.
	How do you donate to the Political Revolution PAC, you may ask?
	Well, they have an ActBlue account.
	Let's go ahead and pull this link up.
	ActBlue, the official fundraising platform for...
	The Democrat Party.
	So again, lie number two detected.
	They said that they're a peaceful movement.
	Er, not true.
	They say that they have no funding.
	Er, not true.
	I mean, how many lies are we going to find from the 50-51 movement?
	Already, just from their homepage, we've detected two lies.
	You're not peaceful and you clearly have funding.
	Also, you're not grassroots.
	So that's three lies.
	Because if you're truly grassroots, you're not going to have funding from the Democrat Party.
	I don't receive funding from the Republican Party, and I'm a grassroots independent journalist, and I'm a grassroots activist.
	And so do I get funding from the official WinRed account?
	No.
	You don't see me getting funding from WinRed.
	So again, three lies thus far.
	Political revolution.
	Got 27 for the political revolution.
	They're actually using the Democrat Party platform through ActBlue to push for revolution.
	So, again, these people want to accuse us of being insurrectionists.
	They say that Donald Trump is an insurrectionist.
	They are actually citing Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, the insurrection clause, as the justification for their movement while advocating for their own insurrection.
	So, again...
	That's four lies detected because clearly they don't give a shit.
	They don't give a shit about insurrection.
	They don't give a shit about Section 3 of the 14th Amendment because, well, they're calling for their own insurrection here of the United States Constitution.
	Our expenses are mostly software and communications costs, currently under $200 per month.
	Choose an amount you can scroll down.
	Your contribution will benefit.
	Alrighty, and what does it say right there?
	Your ActBlue Express account.
	You can scroll down to the disclaimer.
	Keep on going.
	Paid for by ActBlue.com.
	That's the Democrat Party.
	Go to ActBlue.com just so people can see.
	I mean, I know a lot of you are intelligent watching this and you understand this, but for people who may be like, you know, just tuning in, you don't know.
	Powering Democrat candidates and progressive causes across the country.
	Go to Google and type in ActBlue.
	Let's look at what they say about them on their Wikipedia page.
	They love to say the Democrats aren't supporting these violent protests.
	The Democrats aren't the ones behind people showing up in Luigi Mangione costumes calling for the assassination of Elon Musk and Donald Trump.
	Yes, they are actually, and they are funding it through their official fundraising.
	ActBlue is an American Democrat Party political action committee and a fundraising platform founded in 2004. It is a major part of the Democrat Party's fundraising infrastructure.
	You can scroll down.
	It's focused on raising small-dollar donors, And as of June 2024, has helped raise $13.7 billion for Democrat candidates and causes since it was established.
	So clearly this organization put on this protest.
	They partnered with Political Revolution, the PAC, which is accepting contributions, through ActBlue.
	So in other words, the Democrat Party's fundraising platform is helping finance Violent political protests where they are calling for the officials of Doge, which includes President Trump, Elon Musk, and Elon's minions, to be woodchipped.
	And they are also calling for the assassination of Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
	By advocating for them to be Luigi Mangione, which is another way, another euphemism of saying you want somebody to be assassinated.
	I already explained to you how this is not a reach and what the meaning of that sign, deny, defend, oppose means.
	It is an open call for an assassination at point blank of a CEO. Let's go back.
	Political revolution, as we went through, is a group of volunteers that grew out of the Bernie Sanders campaign.
	So we now have a direct point of contact to an elected official, a Democrat senator who has been involved in the confirmation hearings for President Trump's nominees.
	You clearly see that it says on their website, political revolution is a group of volunteers that grew out of the Bernie Sanders campaign.
	We are an organization focused on digital campaigning and connecting progressives across the nation.
	Our goal is to support progressive candidates and ballot initiatives on a state-by-state basis and to amplify the message of other like-minded organizations and campaigns.
	Here you go.
	You can see here.
	The political revolution is a group of volunteers that grew out of the Bernie Sanders campaign.
	So what have we uncovered, you guys, just through some basic political research?
	They're not a grassroots organization.
	They are funded by the Democrat Party.
	The Democrat Party is helping them.
	They are receiving funding through a radical, progressive, pro-Marxist revolutionary PAC. And the organizers of this PAC... Grew out of the Bernie Sanders campaign.
	What have we seen?
	We have seen Bernie Sanders openly speak out at these protests against President Trump and Elon Musk.
	And now we know that Bernie Sanders has a direct tie to Project 5051, where they're inciting violence.
	You can scroll down.
	They say that they support local progressive political candidates, congressional candidates.
	Progressive incumbents.
	Well, who's a progressive incumbent?
	Bernie Sanders, right?
	We engage the community around those candidates and issues and raise awareness for voters across the nation with a targeted social media platform and messaging and by working with other activist groups.
	Alrighty, who is behind the political revolution pack?
	Well, clearly Bernie Sanders officials.
	Together with our partners, Political Revolution, Voices of Florida.
	So these are other partners too, right?
	Political Revolution, Voices of Florida, No Voices Unheard, Build the Resistance.
	Those are all the partners of Project 5051. You can see here from the screen.
	We are ready to hold the line.
	Community is our resistance.
	Woo!
	Resistance 2.0.
	So Resistance 1.0 was Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
	Now it's like a new umbrella, right?
	Obviously, the Women's March got exposed for being a bunch of Jew-haters who were tied to Louis Farrakhan and Muslim Brotherhood offshoots, right?
	So they had to rebrand.
	That's why they're like, oh, the Women's March is in solidarity with 5051, even though I'm sure that a lot of the participants at 5051 are Women's March organizers.
	Like, I guarantee you that if we were to lift the hood, we would find that out.
	The screenshot here says that they're ready to hold the line, and the press contact is listed as Sarah P., whose email address is publicly listed on the website as press at 5050.1.
	And then another woman whose name is listed there is Glow S., Glow S., press at paul-rev.com.
	So you can see from...
	You can scroll up.
	President's Day, Not My President's Day, No Kings in America press release, February 16th, the day before President's Day, by GLOW. You see how it says GLOW? GLOW at the top.
	Scroll down.
	Press contact Sarah P. Press at 5050.1.
	Glow S.
	So why are they trying to hide their names?
	well maybe they don't want you guys to know their real identities right it's too bad because we have them So who is Glow S? You know, it's like very cryptic.
	Glow.
	Hi!
	It's like the progressive woman.
	Hi, I'm Flo.
	In this case, hi, I'm Glow.
	Welcome to my progressive rally.
	Revolution.
	Resist.
	Who is Glow?
	Well, it doesn't take much.
	You mean like you put two and two together?
	Glow, 50-51, Bernie Sanders, right?
	You'd like put all these pieces together.
	Well, there's a woman by the name of Glorianne Sahay.
	Who is actually on the political revolution, their PAC, their political revolution PAC FEC report.
	So we have the FEC report too.
	We can get that pulled up.
	But when you type in Gloria Ann Sahay from this FEC record and you type it into Google, the first thing that pops up is a LinkedIn page for a woman by the name of Gloria Ann Sahay who happens to live in Colorado and she works at A company called Trimble Inc.
	We have a video as well.
	Let's scroll down so we can show you her LinkedIn page and you can see how we figured out who Glow is.
	We have a screen recording because we're not logged in on my computer here in my studio into the personal LinkedIn account because obviously, you know, that would reveal personal information and we have accounts that we use for research.
	We did a screen recording that we could show you without logging into our own personal account.
	That way you can't see who else we're investigating because that's proprietary information.
	Wink, wink.
	But here is the screen recording that we have of her LinkedIn page.
	Okay, so let's go through this.
	Like, just keep the video up on the screen.
	Glorian Sahay, we'll pause it, too, at the top.
	Let's pause it at the top of the video.
	So, cloud operations manager at Trimble and president of WOM Engineers, a nonprofit.
	WOM Engineers.
	So, it's like woman.
	You understand?
	Like, woman.
	Like, because they always have to put their identity first.
	It's like, WOM-N. You get it?
	Like...
	Engineers, like E-N, women, engineers.
	So, women, engineers, you have to put women in there.
	You see how woke these people are?
	So, she's the president of Women Engineers, a nonprofit focused on women in technology, because that's really worked out so well.
	She lives in Colorado.
	Scroll down, or actually just play the rest of the video.
	Restart it from the top.
	Okay, so pause right there.
	Volunteer experience.
	Bernie Sanders 2016. So from October 2015 to the end of 2016, she was a volunteer on Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign.
	And they clearly said that this organization was founded by Political Revolution as a group of volunteers that grew out of the Bernie Sanders campaign.
	So that's her.
	That's GLOW. That's GLOW. That's how we figure this out.
	So GLOW is a Bernie Sanders volunteer who is now the president of this very women-centered technology company.
	And now she's the press contact on the 5051 movement.
	So these are Bernie Sanders staffers.
	Bernie Sanders staffers and Bernie Sanders volunteers.
	Are behind the 5051 movement where people are glorifying and celebrating Luigi Mangione.
	Now let's go to the FEC reports right here.
	You can see lots of contributions from 2024. Glorion Sahay, Trimble, her employer.
	So that's her.
	Let's be careful.
	Arvada, Colorado, clearly the same location where it says that she works and her company's founded.
	Go back to the FEC record again.
	Click open the name.
	So she's donating money to this group.
	Donating money.
	But she also works for.
	So she's donating money to this group, but she's also working for this group.
	So I don't know.
	I don't really get how this works.
	You know, that is her.
	So they say that they're not funded, but they're clearly funded.
	I just showed you the FEC records.
	If you don't have funding, why is there a paper trail through the FEC record and your own staff members who are putting out your press releases?
	Again, let's go back to show people that Glow's name is on the official press here, the press form.
	How are you a grassroots movement without a budget when I literally just showed you that Glow is using like an abbreviation of her real name, Laurieann Sahay.
	So that she can hide the fact that they're lying to you and telling you that these people do not get funding when her name is on the FEC record for the partner organization, Political Revolution, which is getting donations from ActBlue.
	They're liars.
	They're clearly funded.
	So here's another video as well we have.
	Well, it's a photograph.
	It's taking a minute to load.
	We're gonna get this loaded up.
	But it's just to show you that she goes by the name Glow.
	So Glorianne goes by the name Glow.
	This is from a screenshot of her WOM engineer site.
	We'll pull this image up and you can see we got some photos of her loading it right now.
	Here we go!
	Tori and Glow.
	There you go.
	That's Glow.
	Let's scroll up a bit.
	My mic is blocking her face.
	We want to see her beautiful mug.
	There's Gloria Ann Sahay.
	It clearly says WOM Engineer, and I showed you on the report and on her LinkedIn page how she is the president of WOM Engineer.
	Let's go back to her LinkedIn page so that you can see again.
	Pause it or scroll down.
	It says WOM engineers right there.
	WOM engineers.
	Go back to the screenshot.
	Lauriane Sahay.
	And she goes by Glow.
	Let's move this up a bit so people can see.
	Okay.
	Any questions?
	Right?
	Any questions?
	It's kind of like not even up for discussion.
	This is who she is.
	So this organization is lying.
	They're saying that they're not getting funding.
	They're funded by the Democrat Party, and they are directly affiliated by organizers for Bernie Sanders' campaigns, which is why Bernie Sanders has been showing up.
	Here's another photo of Glorian that we found.
	Glorian Sahay on LinkedIn, her Pride, Pride Month, hashtag non-binary, hashtag hetero-representing, hashtag Sunday Funday.
	Authentic.
	Wearing her Trimble LGBTQ Network shirt.
	So there's GLOW. Glorian Shehey.
	The same woman that went by GLOW. The same photo over here that says Glorian Shehey.
	So in case there was any doubt that they're lying about not having a budget.
	Oh, we're just a bunch of broke activists.
	You know, we're just paying for all this social media and digital marketing and, you know, we're getting press hits and we have signs and we have all these press releases going out.
	But don't worry, we're not receiving any money from anybody.
	We don't have any money.
	We're just a bunch of poor women.
	Give me a break.
	All right, here's another partner.
	Let's go back.
	Let's go back to the website so that you can see their partner page again.
	So Voices of Florida.
	So we can show you like the Black Lives Matter radical elements here.
	So Voices of Florida.
	You can scroll.
	Go back to their homepage.
	A Florida-based 501c4 nonprofit formerly known as Women's Voices of Southwest Florida.
	Dedicated to defending reproductive freedoms and human rights and empowering our communities through education, outreach, and direct action.
	We have a unified message in response to harmful policy that threatens the well-beings of Florida.
	But don't tread on us.
	Okay, so go back up.
	team.
	Sarah Parker, whose name is the name of the team.
	Sarah Parker, whose name is the Is on the press contact.
	You can see they're not using their real names because they don't want you to find out their funding sources and the fact that they are tied to well-funded, well-organized movements and organizations.
	So Sarah P is...
	Let's find out who Sarah P is.
	Sarah Parker!
	Whose pronouns are she, her.
	She's the president and executive director of Voices of Florida.
	Then you have...
	Si Smith, who goes by they them.
	Which is a shame because she's actually kind of pretty, but I don't even know if it's a she because it goes by they them.
	Could be a chick with a dick.
	I have no idea.
	That's what's crazy.
	It's like I want to give compliments, but I also don't want it to be like, that's a man, baby.
	You know, like, have you ever seen that movie, Austin Powers?
	That's not a woman.
	That's a man, baby.
	It's like she's actually pretty.
	But it could be a man with really good plastic surgery.
	Corey Bleakley, they, them, organizing director.
	Helen Black, she, her, executive assistant.
	Seneca Bristol, she, her.
	Lola Smith, they, them.
	Aaron Clark, he, him.
	Bryce Heckmeyer, they, them.
	I mean, it's just like a clown show of just like, you know.
	Look at this one with the rainbow hair.
	Holy shit.
	Mandy Langford, they, she.
	I don't know what a they, she is.
	Like, how are you a they, she?
	What is a they, she?
	I don't know what a they, she is.
	Looks like a clown.
	Anyway.
	This is Sarah P. So you can click on Sarah.
	There's Sarah.
	So let's look at who Sarah Parker is.
	And you guys, we are live right now, so please be sure that you share all of this research with everybody else.
	Click on the live link and just reshare it if you're watching live right now on Loomer Unleashed or on the X account.
	You can repost the live link because we're exposing these people in real time because these are the people who are behind all these protests right now across the country.
	I think that people have a right to know.
	They have a right to see all the crazies behind these movements.
	Okay, so Sarah P., we showed you her name is on the press release for 5051. We just showed you that Sarah is the executive director of the Florida Voices Group.
	Women's Voices of Southwest Florida.
	Let's click on her LinkedIn page. Scroll down. Let's click on her.
	Thank you.
	So President, Women's Voices of South Florida.
	Scroll down.
	Alright, let's go back.
	To her other affiliation.
	Oh, what's this?
	Well, Sarah Parker is tied to the Democrat Party.
	We have another Democrat Party tie.
	They say that they're not affiliated with the Democrats.
	They say that they have no funding.
	But what is this?
	Sarah Parker has an official page on the Sarasota Democrat Party of Florida's page.
	Ooh, look at this.
	Let's take a screenshot of this live so that when they try to delete this or they try to say that they don't have ties to the Democrat Party, we can put these receipts back in their face.
	Sarah Parker, elected to a four-year term as a state committee woman in December 2024. Let's look at Sarah's bio.
	Sarah Parker is a passionate advocate for reproductive freedom and social justice in Florida, serving as the executive director and president of Voices for Florida.
	She co-founded the organization in 2021 to oppose a proposed six-week abortion ban in Manatee County.
	You can thank Ron DeSantis for that genius idea that was even opposed by President Trump.
	Leading a successful fight alongside other activists, Voices of Florida, under her leadership, champions reproductive healthcare, equality, and human rights driven by Black and queer individuals.
	Parker, a proud black mother and longtime Sarasota resident, has been involved in grassroots activism since the Occupy movement.
	She co-founded Occupy Florida, later known as Occupy Tally, in response to Florida's 2023 abortion ban.
	As part of the Floridians Protecting Freedom Coalition, she played a key role in the successful Yes on 4 campaign, ensuring that Floridians...
	Ensuring that Floridians...
	Let's go back over to...
	Could vote to protect abortion rights.
	Parker's unwavering commitment continues to inspire others in the fight for justice and reproductive freedom.
	So, scroll over.
	Click on Donate Today.
	Scroll down.
	Act Blue.
	So again, this partner with this organization whose name is fully being hidden From the public, because they're shortening their names and they're not using their real last names on the organization of these protests, is a Democrat Party official in the state of Florida, in Sarasota.
	She is tied to Act Blue because the Democrat Party group that she's affiliated with in Sarasota, the official Sarasota County Democrat Party, where she's a state committee woman and has been since...
	She was elected to a four-year term in December of 2024. They're accepting donations on ActBlue.
	So again, how are these people not funded?
	If you go back to the 5051 website, they say that they're not funded.
	That is a blatant lie.
	In just days, grassroots organizers, without any budget, centralized structure, or official backing, they have official backing through several progressive organizations, through the Bernie Sanders campaign, and through ActBlue, the official Democrat Party fundraising platform.
	So, I don't see how people can say, oh, we have no idea who's propping up these protests that are protesting the defunding of USAID. We know who's doing it.
	It's the Democrat Party.
	I just showed you it's the Democrat Party.
	It's the Democrat Party through their proxy, Sarah Parker, and also through their proxy, what's her face?
	Glorian Sahay, who goes by GLOW. These are Bernie Sanders operatives, and these are individuals who are on FEC reports for political revolution and are accepting funds through ActBlue, the Democrat Party's official fundraising platform site.
	Let's see, there's about 59,000 members who, well, they say they have the Reddit page.
	59,000 members have joined the group.
	There's a Discord server as well that's linked to the movement, but people have to be invited to join the server.
	One of the moderators of the subreddit is an individual who goes by you slash honeydulemon.
	I'll pull this up too.
	So this is one of the Reddit subusers.
	You slash Honeydew Lemon said via an email that the original idea came from another moderator, the Reddit user you slash evolved underscore fungi.
	Evolved Fungi's original post was deleted, but screenshots below provided by Honeydew Lemon show Evolved Fungi discussing the idea of 50 protests across 50 states.
	The deleted post states that the goal was to give people a simple instruction set to increase participation exponentially.
	And they're definitely being astroturfed.
	Like, they say that they're an organic movement, but they're definitely being funded, and they're definitely being propped up by ActBlue and Bernie Sanders, and they're being propped up by all of these progressive groups that I just showed you.
	Here's an interesting tweet, too.
	Let's scroll up a little bit.
	Totally not astroturf.
	The 5051 subreddit made 125. Buildtheresistance.org registered 1-29-2025.
	Google Trends starts picking up 50-51 on 2-1.
	Build the Resistance webpage has 50-51 references as of 2-4 by the web archive and who knows how long before.
	You can clearly see this from the graphics there, okay?
	The search term.
	Substantial peak.
	That's not organic.
	Okay, let's go back over to, let's exit out of it.
	If you scroll up a little bit so people can see those other screenshots.
	Here you go.
	We the people.
	Domain name, build the resistance.
	You can see it was literally like just created the beginning of January.
	On February...
	On February 4th, it just happens to get picked up and allied with a PAC. Yeah, 100% organic.
	Nothing to see here.
	So, again, they like to say that they're organic and that they have no funding and they have no structure.
	I mean, it literally says on their official website that they don't have any official structure support.
	But then they have a partnership announcement.
	Here you go.
	And some of these posts have been...
	Deleted, from my understanding.
	But 50-51 partnership announcement, here we go, on the subreddit.
	Amazing news!
	We've heard your concerns about the legitimacy of the 50-51 movement.
	Up to this point, we've been entirely grassroots organized, and we've done the best we can to provide some structure and address concerns.
	We've partnered with Political Revolutions.
	We've been speaking with their lead organizers, and they've graciously offered us their support and access to their event organization.
	Well, obviously, like, this is not organic.
	This is the reason why the women who are putting out the press releases on the press releases for 5051 are using abbreviated versions of their name.
	Because if you did, if they had their real names on there, then you would clearly be able to see that they have had longstanding donations and financial ties to political revolution, the PAC that date back to last year, according to these FEC records we pulled.
	And they're tied to the Bernie Sanders campaign, which shows that they have structure.
	So it's just...
	Like, it's all fake.
	It's all like, oh, wow, this is so great.
	It's amazing.
	Wow, we're making such great progress.
	Look at us.
	Look at us.
	When in reality, all of this is just completely staged and fake.
	Political Revolution is a subreddit community that has a sidearm pack and all-led, all-volunteer-led organization.
	They have an event platform.
	Well, you're not really volunteer-led if you're accepting money from ActBlue because somebody's getting that money.
	Like, somebody somewhere is getting paid.
	They have an events platform where they can organize and mobilize to ensure that we can get a ground game going.
	We were founded in 2016 by a group of Bernie Sanders volunteers.
	We strive to garner results with down-ballot candidates and elect progressives to office.
	So again, it's not an organic political movement.
	This is planned.
	Wanted to have a very violent, radical movement that they could say was not affiliated with the Democrat Party so that they could have psychos out there advocating for Luigi Mangione fanboys to assassinate Elon Musk and President Trump.
	Oh, we're not tied to the Democrats?
	Don't blame us!
	This isn't the Democrat Party!
	I literally just showed you how it's the Democrat Party.
	So the Democrat Party is advocating for the assassination of Elon Musk and President Trump.
	Let's see, what else do we have here?
	There's more information on this thread, too.
	You can go on X and you can check it out yourself.
	We've been live now for almost three hours, so I definitely want to take your questions.
	If you have questions and comments, put them in the chat.
	But here we go.
	This is from...
	The same thread.
	It's about the mod from the subreddit.
	You can see they stopped posting for almost two years and then they created another account.
	It says, how can I help Q&A? How can I help organize?
	Get one, two, three friends, share the idea, make a plan, show up.
	What is the idea?
	50-51 protests, 50 states, 50 protests, one day at your state capitol.
	Who's in charge?
	You are.
	It's a decentralized idea that is self-replicating.
	Spread it and it spreads itself.
	Got a friend who loves to organize?
	Give them the title of founder.
	Want to call your local TV stations?
	Tell them it's your idea and it's spreading nationally.
	Well, it's not their idea and it's not organic because I just showed you how it has structure behind it.
	This idea has potential to bring thousands of people together for a common cause.
	I mean, it's just kind of like really interesting when you see these receipts and it just makes you wonder, like, where's the mainstream media on this?
	And how come the GOP isn't calling this out?
	You have videos that clearly got the attention of Elon Musk.
	I mean, we can pull up those tweets again.
	You can see what he said.
	He said that it's gone too far and that he was going to report these threats of violence to Ed Martin and that these were threats of assassination against President Trump.
	Why is nobody investigating this?
	It clearly ties back to Bernie Sanders.
	It clearly has identifying factors for these women.
	We've identified who they are.
	Their names are Sarah Parker and Gloriana Sahay.
	Why is there not mainstream media coverage of this and the fact that People who glorify and support Luigi Mangione are showing up to these protests that are lying and pretending that they're organic when they are literally being financially propped up by ActBlue.
	Very, very disturbing, especially when you know that President Trump has faced multiple assassination threats by Democrats.
	We know that...
	We know that Ryan Routh, who was the second attempted assassin who tried to kill Trump at his golf club, was a Ukraine supporter and he had a Biden Harris bumper sticker on his car.
	He was a supporter.
	Advocating murder of a president is a serious crime and they have the gall to do so on President's Day.
	you Letting Eagle Ed Martin know about this.
	So some pretty shocking information here.
	But again, let's take a couple more questions.
	If you have any comments, we'll take two or three questions, comments, and then we'll wrap up.
	There's not going to be a live show on Thursday, there is going to be a live stream, but it's not going to be a regular show because I'm waking up bright and early and I'm going to CPAC. So I will be at CPAC all week.
	So if you're going to be there, I'll probably see you around.
	I have some meetings I have to attend.
	And of course, President Trump is expected to be speaking at CPAC. So I'll be there reporting live.
	So be sure that you're following me on X and on Loomer Unleashed, at Laura Loomer and at Loomer Unleashed, so that you get all of my live updates.
	And then there's also going to be some Democrat protests in D.C. at that time.
	So Charles and I will be covering these Democrat events and reporting on the events happening throughout the week of CPAC, which is, you know, it's all week.
	So it starts tomorrow and it ends on Saturday.
	And I'll be there for the entire time.
	There will be a live stream of CPAC activity and CPAC speeches on my Rumble page and on my X account on Thursday.
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	I'm a pretty damn good investigator, right?
	My team here at Loomer Unleashed is very good.
	We're very good.
	What do you think, Cannon?
	Should we go work for the FBI? Should we apply?
	Cannon says yes.
	Let's go.
	Why not?
	We should apply.
	Let's see.
	Also, it's worth noting that USAID is basically ActBlue.
	So, it's interesting how all these protests are popping up and ActBlue is directly tied to USAID. And the protests are supposed to be protesting the defunding of U.S. aid.
	And people at these protests who have no affiliation with the Democrat Party, obviously a lie, just prove that, are advocating for the assassination of Doge officials.
	It's the Democrat Party financing protests that are calling for the assassination.
	So once again, they are inciting silence.
	Let's scroll back up.
	And political revolution goes back to 2016.
	I'm not saying political revolution is new.
	What I'm saying is that this movement, 50-51, they're saying it's new, but it's really just an offshoot of political revolution, which is a Bernie Sanders 2016 movement.
	So this isn't really a new movement.
	They're just rebranding it.
	Let's see.
	Let's see, scroll up.
	They said it's Laura posting all of this on X.
	Yeah, we're doing this new format now with the show where we're actually gonna start breaking a lot of these stories on the show as opposed to just posting everything on X because it also gives people more of a reason Not that you don't want to watch the show anyway.
	I mean, the show's great, but I think it's really exciting to break these stories in real time and to teach you all how to do this investigative reporting so that you can do it yourself.
	And we have 100,000 live viewers right now on...
	On X and we also have live viewers on Rumble.
	So it's very exciting content.
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	And if you enjoy it, you should support it.
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	We'll take two more comments and questions and then I gotta go pack because...
	I'm the worst packer ever, and I'm always up super late the night before I travel, and I'm going to be up all night because I have to find my winter outfit so that I can look professional, look comfy, look chic, but also not freeze my ass off since it's going to be snowing.
	I live in Florida.
	Now I have to go to the snow.
	I don't know why.
	I'm not looking forward to it.
	I don't even like going to conferences, but, you know, like, you have to go every so often for work.
	I'll suck it up.
	Scroll down.
	Let's see.
	A couple more questions.
	any more comments?
	Yes, I will be posting all of this on X and we're going to be clipping throughout the week as well.
	So be sure that you're following me on X at Laura Loomer and also Loomer Unleashed and we'll be posting a lot of these clips.
	Alrighty, everybody.
	Well, thanks so much for tuning in to another very exciting episode of Loomer Unleashed.
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	I'm sure that there's probably going to be protests because there's always protests at CPAC every single year.
	Never a dull moment, especially now that Trump is back in office.
	I'm sure that it's going to be more exciting than it was the last four years for the last four CPAC conferences.
	But with that, thank you so much for tuning in, and I will see you next Tuesday for another live episode of Loomer Unleashed.
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