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Nov. 15, 2023 - Loomer Unleashed - Laura Loomer

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EP9: AMERICA FIRST TAKEOVER OF GOP: Will Ronna Romney Resign From RNC? Special Guest Vivek RamaswamyEP9: AMERICA FIRST TAKEOVER OF GOP: Will Ronna Romney Resign From RNC? Special Guest Vivek Ramaswamy

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	I'm your host, Laura Loomer.
	Tonight is a very special episode of Loomer Unleashed.
	For years, the Republican Party has consistently fallen short of its expectations.
	Major candidates, despite receiving substantial financial backing from the RNC, often fail to secure victories.
	Even when Republicans do manage to get elected, they frequently disappoint.
	Across the nation, voters have been yearning for a departure from the recurring pattern.
	They desire an outsider, a disruptor like President Trump, to enter the arena and shake up the system once again.
	Sadly, such candidates are rare, and to make matters worse, many of the party's best candidates find themselves not only battling their Democrat opponents, but also battling their own party.
	Unfortunately, the Republican National Committee, which is responsible for promoting and funding candidates, is led by Ronna Romney McDaniel, Mitt Romney's niece, who has been a comprehensive failure on multiple levels.
	This is a topic I've discussed at length and as many of you know I have committed myself to fighting for better candidates and better leadership.
	So let's begin by taking a look at Ronna Romney McDaniel's record during her tenure as RNC chairwoman.
	Under her watch the GOP has suffered a series of crushing defeats from the 2018 midterm disaster to her failure to combat voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election And the RNC's unfulfilled red wave predictions in 2022.
	In many of these elections, the dial could have moved towards victory had the RNC simply provided more support to certain candidates.
	Yet, for reasons unknown, McDaniel has frequently withheld the necessary funds and support to help push these candidates over the finish line.
	Curiously, many of the candidates in question who are not receiving support from the RNC Just so happened to be staunch pro-Trump and America First conservatives.
	Worse, the RNC has instead chosen to give nearly unlimited support to deeply flawed candidates who were often barely conservative at all.
	Take the 2021 Georgia Senate runoff, for example, where over $215 million, if you can believe that number, were pumped into by conservative organizations to Kelly Loeffler's campaign and David Perdue's campaign.
	A huge portion of that money came from the RNC itself.
	Both of those candidates were far from perfect.
	They both had questionable ties to Wall Street, with Loeffler being married to the chairman of the Stock Exchange and Purdue being embroiled in an insider trading scandal.
	In spite of this, the money just kept on pouring in, and all the big-name Republican stars were deployed to campaign for them.
	And when voters seemed skeptical, the talking point became, well, just hold your nose and vote for them and, you know, we got to keep the Senate so the Democrats don't get in, right?
	The lesser of two evils line that we're always force-fed, unfortunately.
	And of course, the Senate was ultimately lost to the Democrats and millions of dollars were squandered on two candidates who would have barely governed as conservatives anyway.
	And let's be honest, what have conservatives really conserved in this country?
	Nothing.
	Again, this is a complete and total failure by the Republican Party on a national scale.
	And that responsibility falls on the feet of its chairwoman, Ronna Romney McDaniel.
	Then you have the many personal scandals she has been involved in.
	For example, the Trump campaign actually sent a cease and desist letter to Ronna Romney back in 2021.
	A lot of people don't know this, but they sent a cease and desist letter to her because the RNC was essentially bankrolling rhinos using Trump as a fundraising tool and raising money off of their claims that they would help combat the stolen election of 2020 which they never actually did.
	There are also allegations that Rana has misused funds for personal matters such as plastic surgery and spa treatments and tonight I'm going to provide evidence of these expenditures so that you can see firsthand that she is misusing RNC donor funds.
	This is a massive issue.
	When you consider that the RNC directs the Republican Party nationally, influencing not only fundraising and the allocation of resources, but also setting the agenda and talking points for candidates and elected officials.
	It is the RNC that controls the narrative in an election year.
	It is the RNC that engineers the Overton window on the right.
	Once you realize that, you can begin to understand why the GOP is failing and why certain candidates are ostracized.
	This was summed up perfectly on the debate stage at the recent third GOP presidential debate in Miami, Florida by presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy when he called out Ronda Romney from the debate stage and declared that the GOP has become a party of losers.
	And guess what?
	Vivek is right, 100% correct, and I agree with him.
	Just think about President Trump's initial campaign back in 2015 and 2016.
	He had to fight tooth and nail against the RNC and the GOP establishment during the primary.
	The RNC's eventual alignment with Trump was more of a forced concession rather than a genuine endorsement.
	Were it not for President Trump's victories on the campaign trail and his massive base of support, the RNC, then under the control of Reince Priebus, would have gladly backed a different candidate.
	But why, you may ask?
	The truth is that the RNC desires to maintain control of the party and of the national narrative.
	And more than that, the GOP appears to absolutely hate their own base.
	And Donald Trump, if you haven't noticed.
	The RNC would sooner have the GOP continue operating as a controlled opposition party rather than a true alternative to the left.
	They would prefer the fundraising dollars continue rolling in unabated rather than risk rocking the boat with a controversial candidate.
	That is why Trump was initially ostracized until they couldn't ignore him any longer.
	That is why countless America First candidates over the past decade have been essentially fed to the wolves and left to operate their campaigns with zero party support.
	That is why even now, outsider candidates like Vivek Ramaswamy are literally being attacked by the RNC on mainstream media shows like NBC's Meet the Press with Kirsten Welker.
	Outsider candidates like Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and even myself when I ran for U.S.
	Congress in Florida twice as an America First candidate, threaten the balance of power that has comfortably enriched the GOP establishment for far too long.
	Just look at the treatment of Vivek at the third GOP debate last Wednesday.
	By any reasonable account, Vivek delivered the best performance on the debate stage that night while President Trump was just a few blocks away hosting a massive rally for his re-election campaign in Hialeah, Florida at the same exact time of the debate.
	You see, during the debate, Vivek outlined some great America First policies while also going toe-to-toe with the mainstream media moderators Ron DeSantis and the warmongering Nimrata Haley.
	He even rightfully called out the RNC's abysmal track record, describing the GOP as a party of losers and calling for Ronna McDaniel to resign.
	Since that night, Ronna has absolutely lost her mind.
	She's going crazy.
	She's even launched a retaliatory war against a candidate she should be supporting.
	She should be supporting and embracing outsider candidates.
	And instead of taking responsibility for her failures, okay, she has continued dismissing legitimate criticisms about her failed leadership.
	She has even gone as far as saying that people who were attacking her are just chasing headlines.
	And she has decried attacks on fellow Republicans as detrimental.
	And if you're a fan of my show and you've been watching, you know that I am not a fan of Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment.
	And I think that we need to put it in the shredder on high speed.
	Because who needs Democrats when you have Republicans?
	But just hang on a second, right?
	Because what's the controversy all about?
	Vivek is correct here.
	Aside from Trump, we have been a party of losers since 2008, and it has become a worsening trend.
	Instead of maintaining the status quo of being losers, shouldn't we be striving to be a party of winners?
	Should we not embrace the perspective of effective, successful outsiders like President Trump and Ramaswamy?
	Should we not as a party be moving towards the America First policies that propelled the Trump campaign to victory?
	Should we not be pruning the old tire establishment shills and talking points from the party?
	We need change.
	Desperately.
	We need it within the Republican Party.
	We need it within our state capitals.
	And we especially need it in Washington, D.C., a city so filthy and so corrupt that it seems to corrupt and control everything and everyone within its reach.
	Ultimately, we are running out of time as a party and as a nation to course correct.
	Our country is on life support.
	The demographic clock is ticking as millions of illegal alien invaders continue to arrive at our border every single week, and we know that the majority of them are not going to be voting Republican.
	In fact, these people shouldn't be voting at all, actually, since they are illegal aliens.
	But as we know, our elections in America are not secure and the Democrats are actively pushing for illegal aliens to have the right to vote.
	And now, thanks to years of GOP failures, there is a crisis in the GOP and that millions of GOP voters now have voter fatigue ahead of the most important election in the history of our nation and in the history of my lifetime and probably yours as well.
	That is why we as voters and as American citizens must take advantage of the small window of opportunity that we have to reinvigorate and reimagine the Republican Party in the image of America first.
	The only path forward is finishing what Donald Trump started way back in 2015.
	The only way we survive as a nation and as a party is if we drag the GOP kicking and screaming to victory by evolving the GOP into the party of America first.
	There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.
	If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes.
	Chained herself to square.
	She chained herself.
	Chained herself.
	Welcome back to episode nine of Loomer Unleashed.
	I'm your host, Laura Lumer.
	Tonight on Lumer Unleashed, I am thrilled and honored to welcome Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy to the show as my guest.
	Vivek is the first presidential candidate to appear on Lumer Unleashed, and we hope to have others on as well.
	Vivek was born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio, and attended Harvard University, where he received a bachelor's degree in biology.
	He would later attend Yale University to complete his law degree.
	By that point, Vivek had already found significant success in finance through founding his own biotech company, Roivant Sciences.
	On the campaign trail so far, Vivek has been one of the few candidates to carve out a truly America First policy position.
	Aside from President Trump himself, Vivek has consistently been the most articulate and most innovative and most populous candidate in the field.
	He has brought a refreshing, youthful, and outsider perspective to the table.
	It's good to be on.
	Nikki Haley, Ron DeSantis, and Chris Christie to the fire over their America Last Dances.
	He has also been willing to bravely stick his neck out against Ronna Romney McDaniel and the RNC, a topic that we will certainly dive into momentarily.
	He is also the only presidential candidate in the GOP field who has bravely condemned the weaponization of government against President Trump.
	So with that, Vivek, welcome to Loomer Unleashed.
	It is so great to have you on the show tonight.
	It's good to be on.
	How are you doing?
	Doing really well.
	Hopefully all your travel delays were squared away.
	I know that you got stuck on the tarmac, so thank you so much for joining me tonight.
	You know, a lot has happened.
	I'm glad it worked out.
	Yeah, a lot has happened.
	And as you know, I am a diehard Trump supporter, right?
	And that's not changing.
	I am probably one of President Trump's most vocal supporters, but I give credit where credit's due.
	And I think that your performance the other night at the GOP debate was exceptional.
	I found it to be very inspiring, and you said exactly what You know really the GOP base and the MAGA base is all thinking we are sick and tired of failed leadership in the Republican Party and we are sick and tired of the culture of losing and everybody just wants to know right like why do we have people like Ronna Romney and Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell and all these people who hate Trump and seem to hate the America first positions in this country leading our nation and so I I just wanted to How do you want to talk about that?
	Because I noticed that since the debate, Rana Romney has launched into a vicious attack on you.
	And I have been calling for her to resign for years now.
	And so, what has it been like since the debate?
	And if you could please tell us what you've experienced since you called for Rana Romney to resign.
	Yeah, I mean, look, it hasn't been particularly pleasant from Ronald McRomney, McDaniel, you know, whatever we want to refer to her as right now.
	And I don't care.
	I can handle it.
	But it's worth understanding that she's been proving the point about the corruption.
	So after I invited her on stage, and I think this would have been an honorable thing for her to do, I said, I will yield my time to you.
	You can look the GOP voters in the eye.
	And tell him that you resign.
	I mean, 2018, 2020, 2022, 2023, all disasters for the GOP.
	She took over in 2017.
	Her salary has tripled over that same period of time.
	I mean, this is laughable.
	How can we be a party that talks about accountability in government if there's no accountability in our own party?
	I'm probably, Laura, one of the chief, probably the main GOP candidate ever that has opposed affirmative action strongly because I stand for meritocracy in America, not race-based quotas.
	But how can I do that to the left if I'm not talking about accountability and meritocracy in our own party?
	How is it possible that Rana Ramani, the only person who's the best did to run the Republican Party with that disastrous thing I would have applauded her for do at least if she had the guts to come on stage she was sitting in that third row right there I could see her I called her to look the American people in the eye the GOP voters in the eye and resign.
	Not do that.
	There's people sitting in a row.
	She's active while I'm not a part of the debate.
	She also says that I get another cent of our funding.
	It's her money, right?
	So I've called out her for her failures in the RNC.
	She's now saying I won't get another cent of funding from the RNC, which I don't care about.
	I'm self-financing this campaign.
	I don't want to be somebody else's circus monkey anyway.
	Wait, but I thought that they say that they don't support candidates in a primary.
	She's proving my point about corruption.
	Right?
	I mean, this is another thing too that's laughable.
	It's all laughable, and she didn't get involved in the state races that they had lost the night before.
	Now it's coming out that she absolutely did get involved.
	She says Virginia didn't want our money.
	The Virginia GOP is saying, of course we would have wanted help and air cover.
	Doesn't make any sense.
	And, you know, I can go into some of the further evidences of corruption here, but what it basically reminds me of, Laura, is at the end of the day, she's like a squatter in a rent-controlled apartment.
	Yeah, no, she absolutely is.
	And, uh, I don't know if it's your connection.
	I know that... We having some trouble?
	Yeah, your feet appears to be lagging on your end.
	I don't know if you have a bad connection.
	It may be...
	Let me just, let me just try, let me just try a computer and see if it gets any better here.
	We just got home off the track.
	That's okay.
	If you need a couple of minutes as well, if you need a couple of minutes as well, we can pull up those FEC records because I want to go through these records as well, because, you know, I fact checked everything that you said the other night as well.
	And I already, you know, I'm already aware of it.
	And so while you're reconnecting to a better connection, we'll get that pulled up for the viewers, because I think what you have to say is very important.
	So go ahead.
	and why don't you reconnect with a computer?
	So in the meantime, you know, Vivek is absolutely correct.
	He's going to he's going to reconnect to a better connection right now.
	But I want to pull this up because, you know, as you know, for those of you who have been following me for years, you know that I've been calling out Ronna Romney.
	I actually wrote and produced a PAC ad in January of this year when she was running for reelection.
	And we're going to get this graphic pulled up on this on the screen from this article, Exclusive Analysis.
	If you scroll up, scroll up to full page of the of the article.
	It's about the money that Ronna Romney McDaniel has been spending at the RNC.
	So this is a report from Red State.
	Exclusive analysis shows RNC spent millions on private jets, limos, luxury retreats, and Broadway shows.
	And if you're looking right now, you can see the breakdown of the expenditure forms.
	And look, you see from the year of 2021 and 2022, You have over 1.3 million dollars that were spent on luxury travel.
	Okay, over $505,000.
	Over half a million dollars on private jets.
	Look at this, ridiculous amounts of money.
	$321,000 on floral arrangements.
	I mean, what kind of flowers are these people buying, you know?
	It just seems kind of crazy to spend that much money on flowers that die when you could be investing that money into, you know, America First campaigns or some of these nail-biter races.
	Home improvement and decor, $165,000.
	Clothing, she spent $64,000 on her clothing.
	Let's see, spa and cosmetics, $7,532.
	Let's see, LGBTQ plus filings.
	on her clothing.
	Let's see, Spa and Cosmetics, $7,532.
	Let's see, LGBTQ plus filings.
	I mean, what is the RNC doing spending money on LGBTQ filings? $1,208.
	So, alcohol, $36.
	Food and beverage delivery, $65,000.
	And so, you know, it's a little crazy.
	This is very wasteful spending, and we're going through this, of course.
	We have Vivek Ramaswamy as our guest tonight.
	He just connected.
	Unfortunately, he's having a couple connection issues, and so he's back now, in my understanding.
	He is back, and we're going to get him back on.
	Can you hear me?
	One sec, I can't.
	Can you hear me?
	I can hear you now, yes.
	Sweet.
	Sorry about that.
	That's alright.
	You have a better connection now.
	So, we just went through this.
	I don't know if you caught this or not.
	No, I knew it.
	You did.
	And so, this is, you're not lying, right?
	Everything that you're saying is true.
	And it's funny because I did an ad about this, right?
	I made a TV ad that I ran in January of this year.
	Trying to warn people about this, you know?
	Trying to, you know, educate the voters about the wasteful spending.
	And, you know, what is she doing exactly, injecting, going to the spas and injecting Botox into her face?
	Like, don't you think that we would be better off as a party right now if she spent as much time as she does injecting Botox into her face on RNC Dime?
	Injecting money into some of these key races around the country?
	I mean, absolutely.
	And the fact of the matter is her salary has also tripled, is my understanding, over the same tenure where you've lost in 2018.
	That is true.
	And every disaster she's delivered since then.
	This isn't complicated.
	Is this the best person for the job or not?
	Period.
	That should be the question we're asking.
	I don't think there's a single Republican in the country could make, you could hire Clarence Darrow as an attorney back from the dead.
	Nobody could make the case that this is the best person for the job to be running the RNC.
	And so it was a mystery to me, Laura, why I'm the only person on that stage who had the guts to call out for the night before.
	We have had disastrous losses.
	We got a drubbing.
	Why is nobody else able to stand up and speak the truth in our own Republican Party?
	I mean, I'll call out Democrats.
	I'll call out the mainstream media.
	I did that with Kristen Welker.
	And you want any better evidence of bad judgment of the RNC?
	What the heck are they doing hiring Kristen Welker to actually host this debate when she's been pushing the Trump-Russia collusion hoax for years with no accountability, claiming the Hunter Biden laptop story was false with no accountability?
	So I used that also to turn it on them.
	Didn't get an iota of response other than her staring blindly at me.
	Well, additionally, after the debate, Vivek, Ronna Romney actually went on Meet the Press with her, and then she was attacking you.
	And it was almost this really kind of shocking but telling moment that you got to see, wait, what is NBC Meet the Press and the people that fabricated this Russia collusion hoax against President Trump?
	Giving her a time to attack you.
	You got to see in real time how the Uniparty covers each other's asses really in real time.
	And it was just really bewildering and disturbing to see the chair of the RNC, you know, basically going back and forth like, oh, Kirsten, you're so amazing.
	You're so wonderful.
	And, you know, these are enemies.
	These are people that pushed forward divisive rhetoric in our country that tore our nation apart.
	These are people that ran cover for the FBI as they were conducting raids on American patriots who were inside the Capitol on January 6th.
	These are people that covered up the FBI working with big tech to steal our elections.
	And so I don't understand...
	Look, I'm a supporter of President Trump, but I will just say I'm not really sure why President Trump likes Ronna Romney, right?
	I highlighted in my monologue that she violated his cease and desist order.
	He literally sent her a cease and desist in 2021.
	I don't know if you're aware of that, when she was deceptively fundraising in his name, trying to Say that they were going to use the funds to go after voter fraud and yet for some reason, I don't know, I don't know why President Trump keeps embracing Ronna Romney.
	I think that if we're really serious about getting President Trump back into the White House, and I say that with all due respect because you have to understand, you know, I really respect you and I admire you.
	But at the end of the day, President Trump has a 60-point lead.
	Right now, you are polling nationally at 6%.
	I understand where you're coming from.
	And all I'll say is, I think it needs to be an America First candidate in the White House.
	There's two of them in this race.
	Trump is tried and true, and he has a track record that I don't.
	And I have fresh legs that he doesn't.
	So that's going to be a choice for the voters.
	But either way, this change needs to happen now at the RNC.
	And you know what?
	What's going to happen is if this gets delayed further into next year, then they're going to say it's too close to the general election cycle.
	Don't make a change.
	The time to make the change is right now.
	And I have said this since the start of this race.
	I do think Trump was an excellent president.
	That's why he's polling well.
	But I think that he should.
	I mean, I think and I have no reason to think that he won't.
	He should.
	And I'm calling on him.
	And say that get Rana out of the way, because whoever the nominee is, I think the America First base needs to be united about the fact that we need better leadership.
	So I'm an America First candidate.
	I've said it.
	I have every reason to think that Trump should agree with me.
	I'm not aware of all that history or whatever.
	But yeah, I think it'd be helpful if he said it as well.
	Yeah.
	Get Ron out of the way.
	There's this guy called Drew McKissick.
	Okay.
	He's the chairman of South Carolina.
	He's actually had a pretty good track record of winning in South Carolina.
	He flipped Columbia's mayorship from blue to red.
	He just took over as the co-chair this year, so he doesn't have responsibility for everything before this year that Rana does.
	Literally, the way the rules would work is he would automatically become the interim chair.
	There's a meeting in January, starting on January 30th of the RNC.
	Go ahead and use that as a clean slate and ask the simple question, who's the best person for this job?
	I give a lot of credit to Harmeet Dhillon, who challenged Ronna.
	Problem is, with Ronna in that seat, she's just engineered it to, like, that squatter in a rent-controlled apartment.
	Yeah, well, I'm not a fan of Harmeet Dhillon, honestly.
	I mean, this is a woman who donated to Kamala Harris's campaign.
	I don't know the specifics.
	I'm saying somebody challenged Ronna.
	Right.
	Well, that leads me to my next question.
	Obviously, Vivek, we know that you have to be, you know, a member of the RNC.
	I think that we need to reform the rules within the RNC because it doesn't really seem like there are many inspiring RNC committee men who want to take that position.
	And so I'm going to ask you this, and it could be a bit bold, but, you know, one thing that you know about me is that I'm bold.
	And so I'm going to say, again, President Trump is the leading candidate in this race, okay?
	You are an America First candidate, and you are the only candidate that has actually shown respect, okay, to President Trump and his record, and you are also the only other candidate in this race aside from President Trump who's been able to connect on a visceral level with the America First MAGA base.
	And so my question to you is, what is stopping you Since you're polling at 6%, and I don't think you have a path to victory nationally to win the nomination, from dropping out of the presidential race, endorsing President Trump, and launching your own campaign to be RNC chair, I think that you would be a fabulous RNC chair, and you could help Republicans get this victory in 2024.
	Laura, look, I think somebody competent should take that role.
	There's different skill sets that we each utilize in different ways.
	I think there's a lot of good people who should take that role.
	I'm in this to reach the next generation of America First conservatives.
	Nobody's reaching young people in this party, and who aren't even in this party but can be, and who cares about the party, this movement, than I am.
	And so I think that's a choice that belongs to the voters, Laura.
	I'm going to be respectful of President Trump at every step of the way, and that's not in both directions.
	At the end of the day, I think it's going to be a choice between two America First candidates.
	I'm doing whatever's required in my part to save this country.
	And that's the way I look at everybody who looks themselves in the mirror and asks themselves, how can I make a maximal contribution to this country?
	That's what I do.
	Well, and I think that you are.
	I think that as I laid out, as I laid out in my monologue.
	I think that you are a very skilled communicator, and I said that in my monologue.
	I said that you have brought a very vibrant and youthful perspective, right?
	And you are reaching young people, and I think that that's what we need.
	We need an effective communicator, and my question to you is that at what point And it's not disrespectful to you because, like I said, I do think that you are, and I give you credit where credit's due, I was there when you showed up to the courthouse.
	You were the only candidate to show up to the courthouse to condemn the weaponization of government against President Trump.
	But at what point do you, you know, divest the resources that you're spending?
	You could be just as effective campaigning on the campaign trail with President Trump and also making the case to get Ronna Romney out so that you can help lead us to victory.
	Because I really do think that you will be a leader in the Republican Party.
	So Laura, I know you're a strong supporter of President Trump.
	As I've said, I'm a big fan of his record for this country.
	That being said, look, I'm on a mission here.
	I'm staying on that mission.
	At the same time, nobody has actually catalyzed this conversation about getting Ronna removed like I have, and I want to see that through.
	Oh, absolutely.
	There are tons of people that pretty much you could take a random person off the street and put them in that role.
	Chances are they're going to be better at that job than Ronna McDaniel has been over the course of the last five years, the last six years.
	So let's get that job done.
	I think it would be very helpful if President Trump, and he's, you know, he's a guy who understands the importance of winning next year as well for whoever the nominee is.
	And so yes, I think it'd be great if he also, you know, unlike the other candidates, it's not going to come from anybody else, if he also joined me in saying that this needs to happen, I think that would probably be the catalyst that pushes this over the edge.
	We find some different leadership for the RNC.
	And then let's continue this campaign of bringing other young voters into our movement.
	Young people across this country, and I go to college campuses probably more than any other Republican candidate in the history of our party.
	They're not really... I mean, the establishment media and a lot of the establishment Republican Party are absolutely against America First principles.
	A lot of young people in this country that you might think are on the other side of this, Laura, they're not really.
	They're really just lost.
	Absolutely.
	They're just ready to latch on to something because they're hungry for purpose and identity.
	Yeah.
	How about some national identity to fill that void?
	So I see a big opportunity here.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	And I wanted to get into some of the policy issues because I agree with you in that, you know, even if you are not the Republican nominee, I do think that you are really connecting with the youth of this country and you're helping them, you know, develop a vision of America First policies that is going to impact our nation.
	and it's going to have a positive effect for conservative leadership.
	And so, I wanted to talk about some of your policy positions.
	You know, we are being invaded.
	I saw that you spoke out against the Republicans today.
	Do you support an immigration moratorium?
	to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas and you condemn this invasion of our country.
	If you were successful in getting the nomination, or perhaps if you were to run in 2028 in a future presidential run, because I do believe President Trump will be the nominee, do you support an immigration moratorium?
	Are you an immigration moratorium candidate?
	You have to start there to clean the deck, okay?
	We have a broken house.
	You gotta turn off the faucet is step one when you have a flood in the house.
	So I'll go real quick here, but there's a lot.
	We could spend an hour on each of these.
	End birthright citizenship for the kids of illegal migrants and end funding for sanctuary cities.
	Those are the two most upstream important border policies because it ends the incentives that people have here to be illegally in the first place.
	And on the birthright citizenship point, people will cite the 14th Amendment.
	Read the 14th Amendment.
	It says, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
	Well, those words aren't just sitting there for no reason.
	They mean that if you're the kid of a Mexican diplomat and you're born in this country, well, you don't enjoy birthright citizenship.
	The same thing goes for somebody who's here illegally and has their kid.
	That doesn't give them birthright citizenship either.
	So that's a dead mistake.
	I mean, Mayorkas has been a disaster.
	What you could have is a right DHS secretary that understands that.
	I swear an oath to the Constitution.
	That's how I keep it.
	Building the wall is not enough, and I want people to understand that, too, because right now they're building cartel-financed tunnels underneath that wall.
	Also, the southern border is not enough.
	I've been to the northern border, which is wide open.
	If anything, the minimum has to be build both walls, not just build one wall.
	But we can use our military to seal our own southern border.
	The 200 billion some odd dollars we've now sent to Ukraine.
	How much better would that be utilized in terms of dollar value of resources?
	Absolutely.
	Protecting our own borders in this country.
	And then not another dime of foreign aid to any Central American country until they've taken care of their part.
	And that's another thing is right now, I want to get your opinion on Mike Johnson, because we have Mike Johnson, who I was opposed to from the beginning.
	I mean, this guy is basically like Kevin McCarthy 2.0.
	And Kevin McCarthy is like, you know, he's like a high school girl who can't get over a breakup.
	He's like attacking members of Congress, you know, in the hallway today.
	I'm sure you saw that story because he seems to have a really... Oh, you didn't see this?
	Yeah, I guess he actually physically assaulted a member of Congress today while walking through one of the members that voted to remove him as Speaker.
	And now he's, you know, denying it even though a reporter, you know, caught it and witnessed it with her own eyes.
	And so you seem to have the Republican Party just melting down.
	It's a circus.
	I said that maybe we ought to consider, you know, monetizing the dysfunction in the Republican Party and paying down our national debt by turning the congressional daily activities into a reality TV show.
	Because, you know, they're just...
	They're just totally dysfunctional.
	And you have Mike Johnson who said, and look, I'm Jewish, I'm very pro-Israel, but why is it that as the Speaker of the House your first bill is going to be a bill for Israel?
	And secondly, you said, not you, but Mike Johnson said, that he was not going to support continued resolutions because this is the reason why Kevin McCarthy was was removed, right?
	But yet today, just moments before you came on, or hours before you came on, rather, the House Republicans just passed a two-part continued resolution that's going to move to the Senate, and both Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell support it.
	And so, so much for getting our government shutdown.
	I mean, I thought that we were going to hold the line on saying no more aid to Ukraine.
	So I just don't really feel that Mike Johnson is a very strong speaker.
	What do you think?
	I mean, look, I don't know the guy, and I'm going to give him, I want to judge by the results.
	It's You're following a lot of that detail even more closely than I've been on the sausage making of internally what's happening in Congress.
	Talk about the results.
	I focus a lot more, Laura, on the deep state.
	I mean, this is what I can address as a U.S.
	President.
	The people who we elect to run the government, I mean, even those clowns running around in Congress, they're not the people who actually even run the government, right?
	The people pulling the strings are the people in those three-letter agencies.
	I mean, right now, the Remain in Mexico policy that Trump put in place, technically, it's still the law of the land and the good rules on the books, but Mayorkas isn't enforcing it.
	That's one of the main reasons I think it's perfectly reasonable to impeach him, and shame on the Republicans who stand in the way of that.
	Right.
	But that's actually where the real attack issue is, and that's where the next president can make a difference.
	See, I think this is a mistake that many presidents make.
	They try to drive their legislative agenda through Congress, which is by nature designed to frustrate any person who wants to actually drive an agenda through it, versus realizing that what we really have is a shadow government.
	I mean, I don't want to wage pointless foreign wars that don't advance our interest.
	The war I'm going to wage is on the shadow government here at home, because those three-letter agencies and their bureaucratic staff They report into you as the U.S.
	President.
	That's the answer.
	So if somebody works for you and you can't fire them, that means they don't work for you.
	So I'm laser focused on first gutting that deep state, the administrative state.
	Shut it down.
	Day one of the next administration, Lori.
	Day one is an opportunity to clear the deck by 50 percent.
	And I said this has made some people upset, but even as just a thought experiment, Imagine if your social security number ends in an odd number.
	Gone.
	Day one.
	Boom.
	50% lower.
	Nobody is going to notice a darn difference.
	Nothing is going to break as a consequence.
	That's the kind of quantum leap change we're going to need.
	And people say, does that sound extreme?
	Well, if nobody has an extreme-sounding plan right now, it means they're not serious about actually getting the job done.
	Right.
	I mean, we're in desperate situations right now.
	This is an extreme communist takeover of our country.
	And so I agree with you that we need, you know, extreme, extreme measures to deal with an extreme situation.
	You know, speaking of the deep state, You may have noticed that here on Lumor Unleashed, right, I have a crocodile, and we put the person that is going to be the focus of the episode in the alligator's mouth every single episode, and you may have noticed that that is Nikki Haley behind me, whose face is in the alligator head on the set of Lumor Unleashed tonight.
	That's your buddy, Nikki Murata Haley.
	Yeah, the alligator might be poisoned by all of the... by at least a bad case of indigestion coming if it actually bites and swallows that.
	Your audio cut out.
	Say that again?
	Oh, I was just saying your alligator might actually suffer a bad case of indigestion or poisoning if it actually swallows you.
	Yeah, I agree with you.
	I think he's going to get poisoned.
	And so I wanted to I wanted to highlight this as well, because, you know, we just I just asked you about your immigration policy.
	And I know that Nikki Haley has this, you know, strange obsession with you, right?
	Maybe she feels competition, you know, dealing with another another another Hindu on stage, right?
	Maybe she wants to be like the only Hindu on the stage of the of the GOP debate.
	I don't know.
	But she said the other day at the New Hampshire Town Hall, I want to read this to you.
	She said, illegal immigration should be reformed so that corporations can import more foreign workers.
	She also stated that the fabric of America is legal immigration.
	I don't agree with that.
	I think that we are losing our national identity and also I am, as an immigration moratorium, well, former candidate for Congress, I don't think that we need to be importing more foreign workers.
	And so obviously, you know, I find it interesting and I want to get your perspective on this because you are Hindu and You know, immigration statistics show that Hindus are generally the most successful immigrant group in our country.
	However, I don't think that that should be a justification even if we are talking about meritocracy for importing more foreign workers.
	If you were ever elected as president or if you You know, ran for president in the future again.
	Would you be committed to either completely eliminating H-1B visas or significantly reducing them by cutting them in half or even upwards of 75%?
	What is your take on the elimination of H-1B visas?
	Well, I've said for a long time, for some slightly different reasons, Laura, gut the H-1B system.
	I mean, it doesn't make any sense no matter how you analyze it.
	It's not meritocratic.
	It's just a random lottery that you do.
	It's also the product of Silicon Valley tech lobbying, where even the people who come here are like indentured servants of the one company they work for that sponsors them, so it's just the product of cronyism and lobbying.
	But let me just say a word about what is the point of immigration policy, and this actually gets to the heart of the worldview difference between me and Nikki Haley.
	I think the sole purpose of all U.S.
	foreign policy and immigration policy is a kind of foreign policy.
	What I'm about to say is like the most bland and banal thing and yet it sounds immensely controversial to some people.
	The sole purpose of U.S.
	immigration policy and foreign policy should be to advance the interests of U.S.
	citizens here in the homeland.
	Period.
	Now, that makes immense sense if you think about it.
	We're a nation.
	We set our own policies.
	So, of course, it makes sense to say whatever the policies are, we could debate what is or is not in the interests of people here in the homeland.
	There's plenty of debate for, you know, this economic interest or that cultural interest.
	But the sole metric should be what advances the interests of the American citizens who are already here.
	Period.
	Absolutely.
	And you know, you talked about big tech.
	It's our job to be the global hegemon and the policeman and to actually carry out a duty that we independently have to people in some other place, some random godforsaken place halfway around the world, whatever it might be.
	I say that's not the job of the U.S.
	President.
	And the analogy I use starts with the family.
	I'm a father.
	I have two sons.
	Look, as a father, my sole obligation is to my family in my capacity as a father.
	Well, if I'm the next president of the United States, my sole obligation is to the citizens of this country.
	Period.
	And I think that the fact that that's what makes that controversial isn't that it's false.
	It's that it's true.
	It's that it's obvious.
	And I think that's the difference of worldview within the Republican Party as it exists today.
	Forget the Democratic Party.
	It's easy to point the finger over there.
	Take a long, hard look in the mirror of our own party.
	Any leader who does not believe that that's the sole job of our immigration policy or our foreign policy or the obligation of the U.S.
	President has no place getting spitting distance within the White House.
	And that's where I come down.
	And I think it's one of many reasons why Nikki Haley and I, you know, let's just say come out on different sides of that debate stage every time we face off.
	Yeah, and you know, I want to play another clip for you as well, because I've noticed this face-off that you've been having with Nikki Haley.
	And today, actually, you know, speaking of big tech and the importation of, you know, these H-1B visa workers that are stealing jobs from young Americans and millennial workers and, you know, people fresh out of college, Nikki Haley said something today that, in my opinion, is completely disqualifying, okay, as a presidential candidate.
	She was on a podcast called The Ruthless Podcast, And she actually called for social media verification.
	She actually said, I want everybody's name to be in a database.
	So I'm going to go ahead and play this clip and I want to get your reaction because.
	I think that it's really strange how Nikki Haley has this obsession with her heels being ammunition, and I almost want to start calling her the Social Credit Dominatrix after watching her say what she said today, right?
	I think that maybe her new nickname is, instead of Bird Brain, it's going to be Social Credit Dominatrix because she literally wants to implement a Chinese Communist social credit score.
	Take a listen.
	They need to verify every single person on their outlet, and I want it by name.
	What about Smug?
	Does he qualify?
	I've provided them with my government.
	If Smug is on your driver's license, and look, you can put Smug in parentheses, but I want everybody's name I want everybody's name, and if you don't comply, I'm going to stab you with my stiletto.
	Who needs Xi Jinping when you got Nikki Haley?
	That's really the basic question.
	So, Laura, I want people to understand something about it, because you've got to understand what's going on here.
	Right, absolutely.
	There's a fundamentally embodiment of corruption in the United States.
	I mean, it's Dick Cheney, 2.0.
	What did I say?
	Dick Cheney and 3-inch heels.
	And she says, oh, they're 5 inches that are ammunition.
	What the heck does that mean?
	I'm annoyed.
	I don't even want to go to the depths of wherever that was coming from.
	So I think you could make that catch on.
	I mean, Dick Cheney and the Republican establishment in the post 9-11 era created the Patriot Act.
	They wanted a surveillance state.
	That's the same surveillance state that now says if you question a vaccine, you're a bioterrorist.
	If you're a parent who questions this curriculum in schools, you're a domestic terrorist.
	If you question whether J6 protesters should be free, somehow you're a insurrectionist terrorist, right?
	So that's where we're going if you go the direction of Nikki Haley and the direction of deputizing state power.
	Absolutely.
	I was really happy to see you call her that and you know for you to call her Dick Cheney in three-inch heels and then to also make fun of Rhonda Sanchez's height because I actually had said that on my monologue about two weeks prior I called her George W. Bush in heels and I know that some of your staff I know that some of your staff actually some of your staff used to work for me I don't know if you know this some of your team out of Ohio worked for my congressional campaign when I ran for Congress and so
	Um, so they're always telling me about your, you know, campaign and how much fun they're having on your campaign.
	And, um, so it's really interesting and you're really lucky to have them because they were really phenomenal staffers.
	Sarah in particular in Ohio, yeah, she was my field coordinator and she's a very hard worker, so you're very lucky to have her.
	But I was, like, so excited when I saw you say that because I'm like, this either means that Vivek is watching Loomer Unleashed or, I don't know, I had no problem lending you my joke, though.
	I'll give you credit where credit is due, Laura, but in this particular case, it was just like a quip I came up with that day.
	I loved it!
	Somewhere in the ether, but regardless, I just want people to understand the facts here.
	Also, because like putting all the joking aside, this is an individual who has to get the hard facts on the table.
	Is in debt drowning in personal debt as a family when she leaves her time at the UN or a cup of coffee stint at the UN, which he claims is her foreign policy experience.
	I don't know which one's a bigger joke.
	Her time at the UN or the UN itself, but let's put that to one side.
	She leaves the UN in personal debt drowning.
	Somebody who's running for the White House on the credentials of being an accountant to address our national debt problems, swimming in personal debt, but then ends up, in the short stint afterwards, joining the board of Boeing, whose back she has scratched forever during her time as the governor of South Carolina, going to sit on a board of, who would have guessed, Boeing.
	Starts a military contracting firm, Allied Defense LLC.
	She has not disclosed any of the clients of Allied Defense LLC.
	Makes millions.
	Ends up giving secretive speeches, including to foreign actors.
	We don't know how that relates to a military contracting firm.
	Makes millions.
	Makes Hillary Clinton look like a pauper in comparison for some of those speeches.
	Then ends up right now, and as far as I know, Laura, this is unprecedented in U.S.
	presidential history, is actually collecting corporate stock options while running for U.S.
	president.
	And then, just like the Biden family, somehow she ends up a multimillionaire.
	It's corrupt.
	Yeah, it is corrupt.
	And when I ran for Congress, Well, when I ran for Congress, I actually called for a ban on congressional stock trading for not just members of Congress, but also their spouses.
	And I think that this should extend for all members.
	I'm in favor of that.
	I'm fully in favor of that.
	I'm in favor of 10-year bans for lobbying after you've left the government.
	I'm in favor of any regulatory body if you've been a regulatory body you shouldn't be able to join the board of that same company like nikki hayden to boeing like a commissioner of fba to the board of pfizer we don't want that we don't need that there's plenty of ways to start a business on your own and build it from the ground up that's great just don't use your government connections as the source of your money i don't think that's too much to ask i agree and i really think that this was such a And so I want to play it because we have a lot of people watching right now.
	We're on the front page of Rumble because this interview is just so explosive right now.
	And so I want to play this clip of the debate last week when you actually referred to her as Dick Cheney in Three and Shields.
	So for those watching, take a listen.
	The fact of the matter is, the Republican Party is not that much better.
	You have the likes of Nikki Haley, who stepped down from her time at the UN.
	Bankrupt or in debt was her family.
	Then she becomes a military contractor, she joins the board of Boeing and otherwise, and is now a multi-millionaire.
	So I think that that's wrong when Republicans do it or Democrats do it.
	That's the choice we face.
	Do you want a leader from a different generation who's going to put this country first?
	Or do you want Dick Cheney in three-inch heels?
	In which case we've got two of them on stage now.
	Okay, so I want to show you something.
	Hold on.
	I really want to show you something because, you know, I know your position on wars.
	You're an anti-interventionist and you're not in favor of, you know, the continued conflict in Ukraine and you called out Nikki Haley for, you know, being on the board of Boeing.
	And as we know, Nikki Haley, you call her Dick Cheney and three-inch heels because she's a warmonger, right?
	This is a woman who wants to get us into war and every single time she's on a debate stage with you, she's trying to shame you and say that you don't have foreign policy experience because you don't get as hot and bothered, right?
	Like, you're not getting off at the idea of going to war with Russia or going to war with Iran or going to war with China like she is.
	And I don't know if you heard about this, but Boeing actually recently announced the creation of a new weapon of war that has been endorsed by Nikki Haley.
	You know, it's quite controversial.
	It's, you know, it took a very long time for them to design it in terms of the aesthetics.
	And so I just wanted to get your opinion on the production of this new weapon of war that Boeing just announced.
	So let's show it.
	I like it.
	Well, I think that, uh, I think there may be, uh... What do you think of it?
	You like it?
	It looks, it looks really fearsome to me.
	I think it's pretty interesting.
	Well, I think that it was designed, right?
	It's designed so that it could just, uh, you know, like, really, really have, um, you know, maximum impact.
	It looks like... Sponsored by Boeing.
	At least we get to see what that... Yeah, so I guess this is what she meant when she told you that on Twitter, it was kind of bizarre.
	I think we have that tweet, if we could get it pulled up.
	Where she referred to her tweets as ammunition heels.
	I don't know.
	I don't really understand what she meant by that.
	I just retweeted it because it made no sense to me.
	It really made no sense.
	So I guess this is what Boeing meant by ammunition heels.
	Let's show the viewers one last time.
	I guess these are...
	Let's see.
	I think that...
	Do you think your wife...
	Your wife is very stylish.
	Do you think your wife would like these heels or no?
	They're not her style, right?
	Your wife's not a warmonger.
	I think it would make the soles of her feet itch a little bit, right?
	Yeah, probably would.
	Me too.
	To coming anywhere near that.
	Apparently, they designed this just for Nikki Haley, I'm told.
	Yeah, well, I think they've designed their board seat just for Nikki Haley, too.
	After years of scratching their back as the governor.
	I'm just really glad that she has a seat to sit in because walking in heels is really painful.
	It really causes lower back pain and knee pain and you got to sit down after a while, so I'm glad she's got that board seat.
	You know, and it's interesting when you say this, Laura, because people then attack me afterwards saying, oh, are you being gendered or whatever in your criticism of her?
	No, I'm sorry, folks.
	We're supposedly conservatives.
	We're not the party of identity politics.
	Having two X chromosomes does not immunize you from criticism or corruption, which is really what this is about.
	And so don't use your identity politicking, which he has tried to do since day one, having it both ways.
	You know, talking about even in her opening speech about how she kicks with heels.
	Either you want to do the Democrat Party at any time, go girl thing, or you want to be somebody who's a serious leader of the country running to be commander in chief.
	You don't get to do both of those things at the same time.
	I'm sorry.
	Cut the hypocrisy.
	And the reality is war is hell, unless you're on the board of Boeing, in which case war is good.
	Right?
	So she talks about her foreign policy experience.
	The only place it shows up is in her bank account.
	But the fact of the matter is I'm critical of Biden for the same thing.
	Biden sold off our foreign policy to make their family rich.
	That $5 million bribe to Hunter Biden was wrong.
	And it's interesting that I'm the only person among the Republican presidential candidates expressly identifying the fact that one of the reasons we're forking over hundreds of billions of dollars of your money, our money, to Ukraine is that Hunter Biden made money off of it.
	But now you know why the other Republican candidates like Nikki Haley can't say it is that they're guilty of the same thing in return.
	So I don't know which political party is a wholly owned subsidiary of the other.
	Both of them are wholly owned subsidiaries of Boeing.
	Nikki Haley is an offshoot and a spinoff of Boeing.
	I don't think that this is the class of leader that should be deciding whether to send your sons and daughters to go die fighting somebody else's war.
	That's not correct.
	It's not the country that we want to live in.
	I'm talking about the military-industrial complex?
	Well, Dwight Eisenhower was a Republican president.
	He mentioned that in his closing address, in his farewell address.
	And you know when presidents are most honest?
	Absolutely.
	Well, she's also just not a loyal person.
	lose.
	They're on their way out and dropping the mic.
	Absolutely.
	I think Amy is now the face of that military industrial complex.
	Well, she's also just not a loyal person.
	I mean, I think that merit matters.
	And honestly, I'm a woman and maybe they'll rag on you for saying it, but let me be the first to say, as an America First millennial woman, I'm really not that crazy about the idea of having a female I mean, I don't understand what the obsession is, you know?
	It's not that I'm opposed to women being in politics.
	Obviously, I ran for office myself, but why is there such an obsession about, oh, she's wearing heels, she's wearing clothes, like trying to draw so much emphasis to her gender.
	I don't care.
	I don't really care about what your outfit is.
	I'm the best person for the job.
	Best person for the job.
	Exactly.
	And so she tries to have it both ways, leaning into that identity politic vision while instead also criticizing the left when they do the same thing.
	Here's what I'm against.
	I could care less about her genetics or what her heels are or how many inches they are.
	It doesn't matter.
	I'm against corruption.
	I'm against unnecessary wars that send our sons and daughters to die.
	I'm against World War III.
	I believe the sole obligation of a U.S. president is to U.S. citizens here at home.
	I don't think war should be a preference.
	It's only a necessity.
	And if you're making money off of it, you have no place getting anywhere near the White House.
	And I think that's one of the things that we've got to learn as we take the America First movement to the next level.
	Certainly, if I'm the president, whoever's the president, you can't staff the administration solely.
	Certainly, I'm not directing historical blame or anything else.
	You learn from your experiences.
	I've learned from experiences in my life.
	As a country, we have to learn experiences in our nation's life.
	You cannot, with an America First vision, staff key positions with people who are fundamentally the ghosts of Dick Cheney showing up in new clothing.
	And whether that's John Bolton, whether that's Nikki Haley, We have to cleanse our movement of the kinds of people who are fundamentally antithetical to exclusively advancing American interests.
	I agree with you.
	I believe that President Trump's going to be the nominee, but just because, you know, I am interested in knowing your positions on this, I want to just ask you a couple rapid-fire questions.
	You can say yes or no as well, or if you want to elaborate, you can.
	I'm actually enjoying this conversation quite a bit.
	We may have to continue.
	Let's do this last round and then I'll come on some other times.
	I just want to keep you for two more minutes if I may.
	If you become president, would you commit to pardoning all of the January Sixers?
	Anybody who was non-violent, automatic pardon.
	Immediately, no questions asked.
	If the Deep State is successful in stealing the nomination from President Trump and locking him up in this witch hunt, would you pardon President Trump on day one if you somehow secured the nomination and became president?
	Yes, hard yes.
	No questions asked.
	Because I already read all the indictments.
	They're all bogus.
	They're novel legal theories that have never been used.
	And so I've got a full list for day one.
	We'll talk about Ross Ulbricht.
	You want to talk about Julian Assange.
	Douglas Mackey.
	I don't know if you know about him and his case.
	Of course, yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, you talk about any peaceful J6 protester who has had the law weaponized, applying a different standard of law when people across this country who are of different political persuasions were not prosecuted for the same actions.
	Of course, President Trump.
	And most presidents, Laura, wait till their last day for the pardons.
	I'll take the heat.
	I'll do it on day one.
	And that actually, I think, sends a stronger signal.
	So we've got the day one pardon list.
	All of those people are on it.
	And I will follow through.
	Lastly, the chat loves you.
	The chat is now crying because they're like, no, make him stay longer.
	The chat, we have a live chat right now.
	Everybody really likes you.
	I will say this, right?
	You've been a great sport coming on and I appreciate it because you obviously follow me on Twitter.
	You know that I'm a diehard Trump supporter.
	That's not going to change anytime soon.
	And like I said, I don't see a path to victory, but I admire the fact that you are passionate, you're an outsider, and you are shaking things up and you are inspiring change in the GOP.
	When the time comes and you do eventually drop out or you allow for this process to continue, Will you be endorsing President Trump and campaigning with him on the campaign trail if he is the nominee?
	Because we've seen people like Tim Scott drop out, we've seen Mike Pence drop out, and others who are, you know, not committed to supporting Trump.
	But will you commit on this show to, you know, when this race is over, if you are not the nominee and Donald Trump is, will you campaign with him and fully endorse him?
	The scenario you just laid out, yes, absolutely.
	Now I expect the same in return if I'm the nominee and he and I have a good relationship of mutual respect because neither of us came out of this morass of broken politicking and the broken corrupt system we have.
	But no doubt about it, I will have 150% my support if he's the nominee and I'm confident I would get the same in return if I'm the nominee as well.
	Yeah, he likes you very much.
	He said the other day when I was in Hialeah, he recognized me actually from the debate stage and he said, he goes, how could you not like Vivek?
	Young Vivek!
	And I saw actually behind the stage, you know, when I had the pleasure of being able to say hello to President Trump, I saw how, you know, you were there at the Florida Freedom Summit this last weekend where I was, you know, confronting.
	I did see you backstage briefly.
	I didn't want to interrupt you because you were, you were talking to people and you were talking to President Trump.
	Uh, but, but, I, I, he has a mutual respect for you and that is something that, that is why I invited you on the show and that is why I've maintained respect for you, even if, you know, I, like I said, I'm a diehard Trump supporter and I will be supporting President Trump because I really respect the fact that you've kept your principles and that even though you're running for the same seat as President Trump, you have enough integrity, Vivek.
	Is it Vivek or Revake?
	You have enough integrity to stand up for President Trump, admit that he's the greatest president we've ever had in this country, and to condemn weaponized government.
	You earned my respect outside of that Miami courthouse when you held your press conference, and I tried to give you my bullhorn, of course.
	Because that was so brave.
	You showed up to enemy territory, and when I say enemy territory, I'm talking about you came to a rally that was mostly Trump supporters, you knew that these people were not going to vote for you, but you still showed up, and I think you've got big balls.
	I really do.
	I love an outsider, and even if I'm not going to necessarily vote for you, you have my respect, Vivek, because you are an outsider, and you call it like it is, and you are a disruptor, and we need more disruptors in the Republican Party.
	You've been very generous with your time and I want to just give you a minute if you have any last thoughts or any last comments where people can follow you.
	I like to just keep it pretty fluid and so that's why I enjoyed this conversation.
	And just to close out that point about Trump, I mean the funny, the thing that irritates the hell out of me about the other candidates in this race is that they have actually for years been licking his boot for favors from money to endorsements.
	And then now are going after Monday morning quarterbacking some small decision he made that they can sort of use to their advantage.
	By contrast, for me, I haven't been licking President Trump's boot for years.
	I've been building businesses of my own.
	I've been living, fighting against BlackRock and building Strive to compete against them, doing all the things I've been doing.
	But that gives me a special, I would say, passion for standing up now for what's right, because what they're doing to President Trump I mean, what they do to Trump today, they're doing to the rest of the America First movement tomorrow, right?
	So that's actually what I'm standing up for.
	And so, you know, I, to be honest with you, would rather speak the truth and my convictions and lose some election than to win by playing some political snakes and ladders.
	And so that's why when you ask me, what's your path?
	I don't do, I'm not, I'm not in the game of being some sort of political horse race analyst.
	My job in this is to let the people of this country, and I get it that I'm new, that's fine.
	People got to get to know me.
	My family, the same thing.
	We're going to tell you who we are and what we stand for.
	People want to vote for that, great.
	I'm volunteering to serve for eight years as the president.
	If you want to go with somebody else, you think somebody else is going to better advance this America First agenda, great.
	Go for them.
	But at the end of the day, America First, and I think this is one important thought in closing, Laura, for your audience, because I think this, it is important, right?
	Whether the America First movement, Donald Trump passes on that torch in 2024 or it's in 2028, Either way, this movement needs to live for decades yet to come in driving the future of this country.
	And so I think we need to all embrace the attitude that America First does not belong to any One man, not to me, not to Trump, not to Reagan, not to George Washington, which is actually where it began.
	It belongs to you, to us, to we the people of this country.
	And it better be continuing for decades, if not centuries to come.
	And I want to think on the timescales of history, not just the timescales of tomorrow.
	Now we got to deal with the problems we have tomorrow in order to ever get there.
	But I just want to keep that mentality alive, too.
	At the age of 38, I hope my best days are still ahead of me.
	We'll see.
	But I want to see a country whose best days are still ahead of itself, too.
	And that's why I'm in this.
	Absolutely, and I think that that is a message that we can all resonate with, and that's why I have tremendous respect for you.
	Vivek, thank you so much for your time.
	I know you're very busy.
	I really appreciate this opportunity to interview you.
	And also, too, I wanted to wish you, I hope I'm saying this right, a happy Diwali, right?
	A happy Diwali.
	Thank you.
	So thank you so much for coming on, and we'll talk to you soon.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, Laura.
	Thank you.
	So that was great!
	I want to open up the chat now because I know that the chat was just going crazy with that interview, and that was really exciting.
	Very highly anticipated interview with Vivek Ramaswamy.
	And look, you know, he knows where I stand.
	He knows where I stand.
	I am obviously a diehard Trump supporter.
	I respect Vivek Ramaswamy.
	I think that he's energetic.
	Like I said, I think that he's inspiring a lot of first-time voters, and he is certainly shaking things up.
	Trying to, you know, force the hand with the GOP to have these very important conversations.
	Am I going to vote for him?
	I'm going to vote for President Trump, right?
	I'm going to vote for President Trump.
	You saw me ask him, point blank, is he going to drop out and run for RNC chair?
	He said that he's not dropping out.
	We already know from his interview, as I mentioned, while I was questioning him, he was on Patrick Bette Davis Show the other day, and he said that he wouldn't even want to be VP because he's not a plan B kind of guy.
	So he's not auditioning to be VP.
	We already know that, okay?
	We could play that clip, too.
	We have that clip, I know, from when he was on Patrick McDavid's show.
	We'll play a little bit later.
	But he was very honest about his intentions in that, well, let's just go ahead and play this clip so that you know.
	He's not trying to audition for the position of VP like some people have said, because I know some people in the chat said, oh, Laura, it's just 3D chess.
	He's just trying to He's just trying to be VP.
	No, he told Patrick McDavid the other day, I believe yesterday that he doesn't want to be VP.
	He's running his campaign.
	So go ahead and play this clip.
	So he has to be thinking about a person to bring in to be a VP that's really going to be the next two-term president.
	So you're not bringing a person in that's going to be, you know, just a Mike Pence type of guy.
	I think it'd be a mistake if he hires a Mike Pence type of personality.
	It's going to be somebody that's going to be vocal, like a flag carrier role.
	You're going around young, doing the part.
	So a lot of people are thinking Carey Lake.
	A lot of people are, you know, thinking different names.
	And Tucker's down the conversation.
	You know, for you, you've said you only have interest in one, is what you've said.
	You only want to be the guy that's the leader.
	But if the opportunity rises and comes to you, that could be 12 years of what you could do.
	Let's just say that opportunity comes.
	Because you have to know, a guy like him, he hasn't taken shots at you yet.
	There's not been any shots.
	We have a good relationship of mutual respect, actually.
	For sure, and that's felt.
	But to me, if that happened, would you actually entertain the idea?
	I'm not a plan B person.
	I'm in a phase of this campaign where I just want to answer with total candor, but it's just my brain does not work that way.
	I didn't get to where I am in life by having plan A goals and then setting up your bifurcated backup plans on the important things.
	On the unimportant things, yeah, we'll have some plans.
	If I don't go to lunch here, we'll go to the other place.
	Okay, that doesn't matter.
	But on the important things in life, When you're guided by your mission and purpose, you set out, and you accomplish Plan A, and if you fail, then you figure it out then.
	But I'm not a guy who has, I'm not saying this boastfully, but I've built successful businesses, right?
	I've built a multi-billion dollar company that got multiple drugs approved through a broken bureaucratic FDA process, challenged BlackRock, built business.
	I'm 38 years old, I'm running for president right now.
	My wife didn't get to where she is by a successful surgeon, lived her version of the American dream, one of the best in the world at what she does.
	We made this commitment together as a family, an immense sacrifice with one purpose in mind.
	It's not even winning the presidency.
	That's just a step along the way to reviving this country and our national soul.
	That's what we're dedicating the next phase of our life to.
	So we didn't do that to pursue a plan B path along the way.
	And so I think it would be fake to just sort of say, under any scenario, I'm not gonna run in 2028 or I'm not gonna, you know, if I don't win or whatever, I just am not Going down the track.
	You're like an athlete taking a game at a time.
	This is what I'm doing.
	That's what you're saying.
	Exactly.
	Okay, fair.
	So you could hear firsthand that he said he doesn't have any intentions, right?
	He doesn't have any intentions to run for VP.
	He wants to continue on this mission, and I asked him point blank.
	I said, you have no path to victory.
	You're polling at 6%, just like I told Doug Burgum the other day that, Doug, you're at 1%, buddy.
	You're at 1%.
	You know, when are you dropping out?
	And so At least Vivek is honest about his intentions.
	And the reason why I'm not bothered by Vivek Ramaswamy as much as I am these other candidates in the race is because Vivek is not afraid.
	He doesn't have this ego about him that is preventing him from admitting that President Trump is the greatest president.
	And he's right.
	Trump's not going to live forever, right?
	Trump will not live forever.
	This is a man who's in his late 70s.
	Obviously, we want Trump back in the White House for four more years.
	But, you know, there has to be other people that are going to carry the torch.
	Are there people who are worthy?
	I don't really see anybody right now, honestly, who is worthy of carrying President Trump's torch.
	But we do, if we are going to preserve our country and transform, as I said, the GOP into an image of America first, we do need to start investing time and resources into more inspiring candidates that are talking about conversations like this.
	People like Vivek who, you know, could be an alternative for 2028, right?
	And so I found it to be very valuable conversation and you see Nikki Haley is in the alligator head tonight because it really interesting story today over the weekend.
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	So we spoke to Vivek about this report, right?
	And we have a lot to get through tonight, but we saw this ridiculous report that shows the RNC spent millions on private jets, limos, luxury retreats, and Broadway shows under Ronna Romney.
	One thing I will say is that I love President Trump, but at the same time, it's time for President Trump to also call for Ronna Romney to resign.
	I love President Trump, but I also wish that he would have been more forceful about McCarthy.
	It's great that, you know, he eventually ended up, you know, slamming Tom Emmer and retweeted my post, or reposted on True Social, rather, the post in which I slammed McCarthy, but I wasn't too fond of the fact that President Trump endorsed Kevin McCarthy in January, okay?
	What President Trump has to understand, and I think he does understand this because he's a very intelligent man, he's brilliant, really a genius, is that these people are not his friends, right?
	They use him.
	Like Vivek said, all these people wanted to use President Trump for favors, okay?
	They used him for endorsements.
	Notice Kevin McCarthy wanted President Trump's endorsements, okay?
	But what did he do?
	Did he endorse President Trump?
	No.
	But you know who did today is Mike Johnson.
	I don't even like Mike Johnson.
	The fact that Kevin McCarthy is making me say something nice about Mike Johnson?
	It's gross, okay?
	It's gross because I don't like saying nice things about elected Republicans.
	These are not good people.
	But it really does make you wonder.
	I mean, how is it that Mike Johnson can go on mainstream media and endorse President Trump in real time without a script, but then Kevin McCarthy, when he was asked about it, he dodged the questions multiple times after asking President Trump for an endorsement, okay?
	So Ronna Romney is the same way in the sense that she should be calling for an end, she She should be calling for an end to this stupid primary.
	President Trump's campaign issued a statement a couple weeks ago calling on the RNC to actually end this primary, calling on the RNC to stop allocating resources to these ridiculous primary debates and instead rally behind the one candidate that is actually, you know, capable of winning.
	And that's President Donald Trump, okay?
	And so, the fact that she hasn't, and she's had a two-week grace period to do so, is disqualifying.
	And I think that, you know, Trump's got to give her the Trump treatment.
	Gravytrain is up, baby girl.
	Okay?
	It's up.
	You've had enough Botox, okay?
	You've had enough cocktails, and you've had enough food, baby girl.
	Alright?
	So, it's time for you to go.
	And you look at this.
	She came in on 2017.
	Thanks to Trump, $123,000 was her salary.
	So no, Vivek Ramaswamy was not lying when he said that her salary has tripled.
	She's now making $400,000 a year after originally making $123,000.
	And so, I just want to know for what.
	Okay, let's pull this report up here and you can see back exclusive analysis report shows RNC spent millions on private jets.
	So we showed you this in the beginning, right?
	I don't want to harp on it too much because we went over it with Vivek.
	If you're just tuning in, you can watch the beginning of the episode and you can see for yourself, you know, the graphic that I that I highlighted, okay?
	There's another report that shows from Alternet that shows Ronna McDaniel's hair and makeup have cost GOP donors nearly $100,000.
	And this was from March of this year.
	So, you know, we know that we're in November right now and Botox only lasts about every three months or so if you get it done at a, you know, a good place.
	At the rate that she's injecting it though, I don't know.
	I don't know what kind of work she gets done.
	She obviously gets lip filler.
	She obviously gets Botox.
	She obviously gets Um, you know, facial filler.
	And look, I'm not going to be a hater and say, oh, you know, stop getting lip fillers and Botox.
	If you want to get plastic surgery, cool.
	Go get plastic surgery, right?
	If you want to go get filler and you want to get Botox, cool.
	Go get it.
	I don't care, right?
	I'm not here to judge that.
	But what isn't acceptable is using RNC donor money to do it.
	Okay?
	If she wants to go and inject her face and inject her lips, um, To look camera ready for her interviews with NBC Meet the Press, okay?
	Go do it!
	Go do it on your own dime!
	But when you're spending over $100,000 of donor money, and you're showing up to NBC Meet the Press looking like you just walked out of Neiman Marcus on a shopping spree, okay, with an RNC credit card, that's just not okay!
	Every time I see this lady, she dresses nicely.
	I will say that I do like her style.
	I do like the blazers that she wears, and I like the expensive looking suits, and I do like the, you know, the very kind of preppy style that she has.
	And that's not cheap, you guys.
	These blazers and the clothes that she's buying, I'll tell you, as a woman who wears blazers, it's not cheap.
	She's spending thousands of dollars on her clothing, okay?
	And we have the receipts.
	Literally, we have the receipts that show that, uh, yeah.
	She spent over $100,000 on her hair and makeup, and also over $64,000 on clothes.
	So she's spending a lot of money, and it's not her money, okay?
	Because if you do the math, it exceeds her yearly salary of $400,000.
	She's spending the money from the RNC to live the high life, okay?
	She wants to be treated like Republican royalty, and you know, you can put lipstick on a pig all you want, but at the end of the day, it's still a pig boo-boo, okay?
	So you gotta resign.
	You gotta resign.
	Please.
	It's just really bad.
	Let's go to the chat now.
	We have some questions.
	We also have some Super Chats.
	Nick60283, great interview.
	Love your tenacity.
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	How does Vivette go from being UNK to presidential candidate with carte blanche to slam the establishment uncensored freely without consequence?
	Anyone else would be audited, swatted, arrested, ruined.
	I wanted to ask him more questions.
	I had a couple questions actually lined up that some of the audience members sent in about his pharmaceutical company and also whether Rana Romney's claims that he voted for Obama were true or not.
	But he said that he had to go and so he did say that he'll finish the conversation another time and And so I think that it was a fair interview.
	I think that I asked him a lot of questions.
	I do think that he's sincere.
	And I asked him to come on last week and it's very hard to get people to come on, especially politicians.
	You know, these people are not really known for doing unscripted interviews, let alone live interviews, okay, with independent journalists.
	And it's not like I have made myself seem any bit neutral, okay?
	I am very much pro-Trump.
	I don't pretend to be for any other candidate.
	I don't pretend to not be for a specific candidate.
	I'm pro-Trump, okay?
	Like, I have made it very clear.
	I want to show you guys my photo, by the way, because it's just so amazing.
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	He's like, so thin, you know, it looks so good.
	And I was like, thank you.
	So, I'm really happy about that.
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	But I, you know, I eat healthy and I drink my Field of Greens, which keeps me on track because I'm not eating heavy at night.
	We do the show late at night, and if you want to lose weight, I do intermittent fasting as well.
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	But for the most part, I really try to watch what I eat because you gotta stay fit.
	You gotta stay fit.
	You can't end up like Chris Christie.
	And I caught up with Chris Christie.
	I think we have that video.
	We still have that video.
	Let's get that video up too later if we can, because you do not want to end up like Chris Christie.
	I just saw him.
	He recently went to Israel this week.
	I did not know that they made bulletproof vests that big.
	It was crazy.
	He took a photo of himself, uh, you know, surveilling, surveilling, uh, the damage from Hamas.
	And this guy, I was just shocked.
	And Roger Stone even said the same thing.
	He was like, whoa, I did not know that they made bulletproof vests that big.
	So anyway.
	Let's go back to the chat.
	Thank you, Verity1776Libertas.
	I appreciate that you are correct and that he was honest.
	We need a central place where we can link to campaign donation pages of Laura Loomer, Donald Trump, endorsed candidates who support America First policies in Congress.
	Well, I do not really endorse a lot of people.
	I've endorsed President Trump, I've endorsed Carrie Lake, and there's not really a huge list of candidates who I've endorsed because the reality is most of these candidates are not that great.
	But yes, I will keep that in mind.
	We have another, we have a $50 Super Chat.
	ForeverTrumper.com.
	Fat Enzo.
	Yeah, thank you.
	ForeverTrumper.com.
	That's where you can get those shirts.
	Let's see.
	Gary, $100.
	Loomer is 24-7.
	Keep up the great fight.
	Look, no days off, okay?
	We all have to be engaged in this fight.
	You have to be aggressive.
	I gotta get some pom-poms for my set.
	You know, I got the gator head, but also, I always think of that movie.
	What was that?
	What was that?
	What was that cheer movie?
	I think it's called Bring It On, right?
	Where you have the cheerleaders and they're like, Like, uh, I don't even know the cheers, right?
	But if I was a cheerleader, really, if I was a cheerleader and I was gonna dress up and I was gonna wear one of those cute little outfits and get the little pom-poms, I'd be like, BE.
	AGGRESSIVE.
	BE.
	EAT.
	AGGRESSIVE.
	We gotta take these rhinos down, okay?
	We gotta, we gotta slam the Uniparty, we gotta get President Trump back in the White House, and we gotta be aggressive, you guys.
	No more going along to get along.
	It's go time.
	Alright?
	It's Loomer time.
	We have to be aggressive and so you're right.
	I'm 24-7 because I have a sense of urgency and everybody needs to develop a sense of urgency in this country because look at how screwed up the Republican Party is.
	I tried getting Vivek to give me his comments tonight on Speaker Johnson because as we saw today, unfortunately, okay, they passed in the House a continued resolution So, so much for Speaker Johnson's claims that we're not going to have a continued resolution.
	I mean, this guy's a liar.
	He's an absolute liar.
	So, yeah, he endorsed President Trump, but I don't want him dirtying President Trump's name up by saying, oh, the day that I'm going to support a continued resolution is the same day that I'm going to also endorse President Trump.
	So, well, yeah, President Trump probably wouldn't be in support of a continued resolution.
	He made that very clear when Kevin McCarthy was pushing for a continued resolution.
	So, I'm really not happy about that because, again, it's like these Republicans who, you know, are weak and they don't want to actually take a stand.
	They don't have the balls to issue a government shutdown.
	They're literally trying to use President Trump as a human shield.
	And I am so against that.
	It's so gross.
	It's so icky.
	Because they're going to start affecting voter turnout for President Trump.
	If they remove Rana from chair, who do you recommend?
	I want Vivek to drop out and be RNC chair.
	That's what I asked him tonight.
	I said, will you drop out and be RNC chair?
	He said no.
	But hey, you never know unless you ask, right?
	You got to shoot your shot.
	You don't want to be one of those people lying on your deathbed saying, you know, I could have...
	Ask that question.
	I should have asked that question.
	I should have I should have Married that woman.
	I should have married that man.
	I I should have gone on that date I should have asked her out.
	I should have you know asked for a raise I should have Whatever right like things that people think about when they look back in their life, and they're like damn You know I wish I would have done that You know?
	It's like when you're on Rumble one night and you're scrolling on the feed and you see that girl you rejected and then you're like, wow, I really should have really taken that Laura Loomer girl more seriously.
	Look at her hanging out with Trump and she's got her own show now, right?
	Or, you know, that nerdy guy in high school that everybody wanted to make fun of who's now, I don't know, maybe a leader of a biotech company running for president?
	Who knows, right?
	Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
	You don't want to be one of those people, okay?
	Because there's nothing worse than regret, I will tell you right now, okay?
	So, let's see.
	Another Rumble rant.
	Let's see if anybody else has.
	We got a $5 one right here.
	Let's open the chat again.
	Will you have Styx, Hex, and Hammer on your show?
	Yeah, of course.
	I like Styx.
	He's had me on his before, so we will make that happen.
	Sounds great.
	All right, I want to read some of these questions as well because we've gone through the Super Chats.
	I want to scroll up a bit because I know we missed a few.
	All righty.
	Great!
	You're on fire!
	Thanks for all the compliments!
	Thanks for all the confidence boosters!
	You guys are great!
	I love you!
	My own official hype squad in the comments section!
	okay someone said um uh yeah Yeah.
	Interesting comments.
	Scroll down.
	More.
	Scroll down.
	We went through those already.
	Loomer.
	Let's see.
	Scroll up a little bit.
	All right.
	Nope.
	Too fast.
	Scroll down.
	Great picture.
	Yeah, thanks.
	I love that.
	I love the photo.
	Loomer's the real deal.
	He don't hold back, does he?
	I came to the program late.
	Great show.
	And I thought I might have missed something.
	Yeah, if you missed it, you can definitely go back and watch later.
	Trump should adopt you as his third daughter.
	Oh, that's so sweet.
	I just got nominated for press secretary.
	I will accept both positions gladly.
	Laura, we need a call in from POTUS Trump episode 10.
	Look, I am working on that.
	I asked Jason Miller last time I saw him and when he was on the show if we could get President Trump on.
	So I am hoping that we can get President Trump on.
	We can get him to call in and we got a lot going on this week.
	I mean, tomorrow, okay, tomorrow's November 15th.
	Big week.
	Tomorrow's the closing argument in the Colorado case.
	If you were watching, I believe it was episode 7?
	May have been episode 6?
	I think it was episode 6.
	I did a full-blown expose.
	I had Dave Williams, who's the chair of the Colorado GOP on my show, and we were talking about this effort in Colorado to remove President Trump from the ballot.
	Yes, this was episode 6, Soros corrupt Colorado courtroom plot to remove Trump from the 2024 ballot.
	You want to go and re-watch this episode if you haven't already watched it, okay?
	Because tomorrow is the closing arguments in this case, and it's going to set a precedent.
	We need to see what's going to happen.
	Because if these Soros-funded radical leftists from Crewe are successful tomorrow in getting President Trump removed from the ballot, or if this judge, rather, because it's not like it's going to happen tomorrow, if the judge in the case who was appointed by the Trump-hating governor of Colorado rules against President Trump, this is going to go to the Supreme Court, okay?
	So this is the leftist judge here.
	Scroll down.
	Go through this.
	So a group of six Colorado voters filed a lawsuit in September seeking to bar Trump from Colorado's 2024 presidential ballot, arguing that he's ineligible to hold office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
	The Civil War-era clause prohibits anyone who took an oath to uphold the Constitution and then engage in an insurrection.
	So you have these ridiculous Soros-funded leftists that are arguing that, you know, President Trump incited an insurrection and that he shouldn't be allowed to you know, be on the ballot.
	But this leftist judge, unfortunately, doesn't really seem to like him.
	And it seems like this is the case all across the country, right, where we have these leftist judges who are funded by Soros or radical leftists who are working against President Trump.
	So stay tuned because tomorrow, okay, you're going to want to pay attention to that and you're going to want to rewatch that episode so that you can understand what I'm talking about, okay, if you're not already aware of it because a lot of people are not aware. - Sure.
	Additionally tomorrow, I'm going to be doing a debate livestream.
	I'm an exclusive Rumble creator, and so I will be livestreaming this.
	It's not my original production, but I will be streaming it.
	Zero Hedge is actually going to be hosting a debate, and so they're hosting a debate tomorrow.
	Uh, between me and a comedian by the name of, uh, Dave Smith.
	And it's going to be on the topic of the, uh, the Israel and, uh, Hamas war.
	And obviously, I am pro-Israel.
	Obviously, I have, uh, you know, taken the position that, uh, Hamas needs to be completely obliterated.
	And so be sure that you, uh, you tune into that because That's going to be 7.30 p.m.
	Eastern, and I retweeted it.
	It's on Zero Hedge's website.
	I think it's at the top of their Twitter feed, actually, right now.
	Let's take a look, because they tweeted it earlier.
	Yeah, it's at the top of their Twitter feed, actually.
	So you can see at the top, introducing Zero Hedge Live Debate.
	And if you open up that tweet, actually, if you go back to the tweet, you can see the first comment underneath it.
	Elon Musk actually commented on it.
	He said, Cool that you're doing live debates on this platform.
	You can see right there that Elon Musk commented on the debate that I'm scheduled to be participating in tomorrow.
	So that's going to be broadcast live from West Palm Beach, Florida tomorrow, Wednesday, November 15th at 7.30 p.m.
	Eastern, live on X on their Zero Hedge account, and then of course I'm going to be broadcasting it live on my Rumble as well.
	So stay tuned for tomorrow because You're going to want to watch it.
	And then, of course, on Thursday, we're back to another episode of Lumiere Unleashed, which is going to be great.
	There's going to be a lot to report on, of course, because we're going to know what ends up happening, right?
	We're going to have the closing arguments in President Trump's case in November.
	And obviously, President Trump's family is back in court this week.
	We've been following the civil fraud trial and exposing Arthur Ngoron, this leftist corrupt judge in New York City.
	Obviously, President Trump's attorneys have announced that they're probably going to be pushing for a mistrial.
	And I wouldn't even be surprised if it's because of the information that we revealed here on Loomer Unleashed.
	And after, this is very important, after the release of my information about Arthur and Goran and his wife, okay, you actually had Elise Stefanik in the GOP conference say that she filed an official complaint against Arthur and Goran in New York.
	And so we know that Representative Stefanik represents New York.
	And this is the power of independent journalism, you guys.
	This is why you all should sign up for my locals and why you should be supporting Loomer Unleashed and supporting independent journalism as opposed to the mainstream media.
	This is why my show takes place during the primetime news hours because we're taking over, okay?
	We're having a hostile takeover of the Republican Party, but we're also having a hostile takeover of the mainstream media.
	We are the media.
	You get to participate in the conversations.
	You submit questions.
	You are in the chat, right?
	You get to talk with me and communicate with me.
	And where are you going to get this information?
	They're certainly not talking about it on the mainstream media, you guys.
	Elise Stefanik files ethics complaint against judge in Trump civil fraud trial.
	The senior House Republican and close Trump ally accused Judge Arthur N. Goron of, quote, weaponized lawfare against the former president and called on the judge to recuse himself.
	Yeah.
	When your wife is posting things like F Trump and, you know, is like posting memes of you in an orange jumpsuit and your children in orange jumpsuits saying that you're all gonna spend the rest of your life in prison, it's time for you to recuse yourself, okay?
	It's a violation and it's just not acceptable.
	So let's go back to the chat.
	Uncensored news topics for informed consent.
	Thank you so much, Jmatts.
	Let's see, we got another one.
	If these men politicians had the balls of Laura Loomer, this war would be over in five minutes.
	Alex Jones, from viewer 12, yes.
	You know, you're right.
	You're absolutely right.
	But, I don't know.
	Maybe, maybe, maybe we should look into the trans movement.
	You know, I'm a firm believer that there's two agendas, but if stapling a pair of balls to the legs of these male members of Congress will do our country some good, maybe we ought to reconsider.
	Maybe we ought to reconsider.
	Okay?
	I don't know.
	They all seem to need a pair of balls desperately.
	Considering Ron DeSantis is debating Gavin Newsom, would he or any of his direct staff members debate you?
	Probably not.
	100% pro-Trump myself.
	Interesting that you mentioned Gavin Newsom.
	If you go to Loomerd.com, go to Loomerd.com right now, you can see one of the top stories is Biden and Newsom host Xi Jinping in San Francisco for the AIPAC CEO Summit.
	So check this out.
	I have not seen any reporting on this today except for my site.
	Tuesday, today marks the beginning of the APEC CEO Summit in San Francisco, California.
	So, this is so funny to me because you may have seen this week that Gavin Newsom was like, oh, we gotta clean up the streets of San Francisco, and we gotta clean up all the shit from the homeless people, and we gotta clean up all the homeless encampments, and people are like, why all of a sudden are you cleaning up?
	This has been going on for years.
	You've never cared about the dirty streets of San Francisco.
	And then someone goes, Is it because Xi Jinping, the communist dictator of China, is coming to town?
	And he goes, yes, that is the reason why.
	He didn't even try to dodge the question.
	There's actually video of this.
	I'm sure the producer can pull this up for you to see it.
	But unbelievable.
	You have to see it for yourself, this clip.
	It is so crazy.
	We got the clip pulled up.
	We're going to play it right now.
	Folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town.
	That's true.
	Because it's true.
	But it's also true, for months and months and months prior to APEC, we've been having different conversations.
	Folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town.
	That's true.
	Because it's true.
	But it's also true, for months and months and months prior to APEC, we've been having different conversations.
	You know, uh, folks are, uh, are wondering why, um, Hair Gel Hitler, as I like to call him, that's my nickname for Gavin Newsom, Hair Gel Hitler, okay?
	Folks are, uh, wondering why, uh, Hair Gel Hitler doesn't really want the residents of San Francisco to be able to walk the streets without stepping in, uh, human defecation, and, uh, why we, uh, why we, uh, won't clean up all the needles, but, but you know, uh, uh, the secret's out.
	All right, the secret's out, and Joe Biden has Alzheimer's, and I'm going to be taking over.
	I'm going to be taking over running for president on the Democrat ticket.
	And because Joe Biden and Hunter Biden are bankrolled by the Chinese Communist Party, and we all know that because the FBI did such a good job at covering up the Hunter Biden laptop scandal, yeah, we have to have a transition of power and an official ceremony in front of the global elites in San Francisco, in front of Xi Jinping, who is going to be backing my campaign.
	Look guys, that's what this is, okay?
	It's basically an informal, or maybe it is, it's rather formal, I guess you could say, right?
	Because they're having this multi-million dollar fundraiser either tonight or tomorrow.
	It's very secretive in Napa Valley.
	And apparently Joe Biden is going to be there and Gavin Newsom is going to be there.
	They're having a joint fundraiser together because these people are being told, look, Gavin Newsom is going to take over.
	Biden has too many scandals.
	He's got Alzheimer's.
	I don't know if you saw today, but Joe Biden was like running around and he was completely stumbling and was turned around and had like a total Alzheimer's episode.
	And so This summit, it's called APEC CEO Summit.
	It's the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation and Intergovernmental Forum headquartered in Singapore.
	And they say that they are promoting free trade throughout the Asia-Pacific region.
	This year marks its 30th annual conference.
	It's being held this year for the third time in the United States and for the first time in California.
	So of course it's being held in California, right?
	Where else would it be?
	Biden is the de facto host leader of APEC 2023.
	He's joined by First Lady Jill Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, and Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff.
	Just a few speakers for the event include the Pfizer CEO, so we know what this is all about, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, Johnson & Johnson Executive, and Vice President Catherine Wangel, Council on Foreign Relations President Michael Froman, Google CEO Sundar Pichai, Google CEO Satya Nadella, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.
	So, okay, there was a report that came out a week or so ago that showed that Obama was actually pressuring, I'm sure that we could get this report pulled up, Obama was actually pressuring the Biden administration to be more invested into AI and was directing the administration's efforts in getting involved in AI.
	Which is really scary now that we know that AI is being programmed to basically be anti-conservative, to be anti-Trump, and here it is.
	Biden quietly tapped Obama to help shape his AI strategy.
	Well, yeah, I don't really think it was so quiet because we all know that this is Obama's third term, okay?
	Everybody knows that it's Barack Hussein Obama who's calling the shots right now, so that's not exactly quiet.
	But it's really interesting.
	You see that Biden is there.
	Jill Biden, Kamala Harris, and Gavin Newsom, who is clearly going to be running for president.
	And they have the OpenAI CEO there.
	Representatives from Visa, MasterCard, and Citibank.
	We know that there's been massive efforts to debank conservatives and to deplatform conservatives, okay?
	It's kind of like this whole World Economic Forum type setup where you have all these global elites and New World Order representatives that have just gathered to have a meeting in probably one of the filthiest and most corrupt cities in America, San Francisco, okay?
	It's a who's who of globalists from big tech, big pharma, and finance.
	So again, I tweeted that out today.
	You can see for yourself.
	Nobody else really is talking about it.
	It's all week long.
	All week long, this is going on.
	And Chinese Communist Party's Xi Jinping is scheduled for Wednesday, and Biden is going to hold a joint press conference with him that same day.
	So Biden will not, you know, he won't He won't.
	He'll wait weeks to go to Israel, right, to deal with all the Americans who are held hostage.
	And in fact, he still hasn't announced his plan to deal with all the Americans who are held hostage over there.
	It's really heartbreaking, too, having to watch these interviews every day of the families of these hostages go on TV and talk about how there's been no response and no feedback from the Biden administration.
	And yet he has time to go to San Francisco to rub elbows with Xi Jinping!
	Interesting, isn't it?
	Let's go back to that article on Loomerd.com.
	Scroll down.
	Another key player in the APEC summit is California Governor Gavin Newsom.
	Again, this is on Loomerd.com where you can read this, you guys.
	Although he consistently denies that he's running, rumors have been swirling that Newsom will be stepping in to run against Donald Trump in 2024.
	He recently went on a foreign policy tour, if you recall.
	He went to Israel, okay?
	He went to Israel.
	He also went to China, where he tackled a small child.
	So that was really interesting.
	He personally met with Xi Jinping and promoted open borders from the Great Wall of China, as I exposed.
	He said that That, uh, he's for open borders while he was on, uh, he was posing.
	It was like a Vogue shoot.
	It looked like a Vogue shoot.
	I mean, you see this guy with his Ray-Bans and his white shirt.
	I mean, the guy, I call him hair gel Hitler because he's so in love with himself.
	Uh, but he got, they go, what do you, what do you think is the best part?
	Right?
	What do you think about?
	This trip to China and he goes well, we got to tear down these walls, right?
	So obviously he's trying to make a political reference when he says tear down this wall But it's really quite unappealing and not very tasteful when you're standing on the Great Wall of China in Communist China We already know that China is increasing their aggression towards the United States of America and you're saying Oh tear down this wall so he's basically giving in my opinion if you want my analysis of the situation of
	It's like an open invitation for China to interfere, right, in the presidential election, yet again, like they did in 2020.
	So, it's quite concerning.
	Let's go back to that article on Lumar.com.
	You can see, scroll down, California governor defends cleaning house for Xi and Co.
	Well, you know, Gavin's a pretty boy, right?
	Not my type.
	I'm not really into the womanizers that bang their, uh, bang the wives of their best friends as he did when he was the, uh, the mayor of San Francisco.
	You can, you can look that up.
	True story.
	I'm not really into womanizers.
	I'm not, I'm really not into that very much.
	But I will say that he clearly looks, you can see here, I always show the receipts.
	San Francisco mayor admits he had an affair with Ade's wife.
	Okay?
	But I will say that, uh, part of this whole, like, womanizing effect with Gavin Newsom is because He clearly takes care of himself.
	Rana Romney, right, is into Botox, and Gavin Newsom is into a lot of hair gel.
	A lot of hair gel, okay?
	He's into the Ray-Bans and the tight white shirts.
	And you know what I'm into, right?
	Do you want to know what I'm into?
	I am into skincare, okay?
	I am into skincare.
	I love my skincare.
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	I'm really into skincare.
	You know, Ronna Romney loves her Botox.
	Gavin Newsom loves his hair gel.
	But what I really like is skincare.
	And I am always on the go.
	As I've said, I'm never sleeping.
	And so I get bags under my eyes.
	And stress can give you wrinkles.
	And there's nothing scarier than waking up and like looking and saying, Oh my God, I have a pimple.
	I have a wrinkle.
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	You know, I love getting facials.
	I love getting massages.
	I really do.
	I love spa days, but I'm so incredibly busy that I don't really have a lot of time to always go to the spa.
	And you can go over to the full screen now.
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	You've got to buy yourself a gift.
	You've got to pamper yourself.
	You've got to treat yourself.
	Maybe you want skincare for yourself.
	Maybe you want skincare for your wife.
	Maybe your girlfriend needs skincare.
	Maybe your daughter.
	Or maybe you just want skincare.
	And skincare is for men and for women, right?
	I love a good guy with a nice complexion.
	We don't want to have guys that don't have a nice complexion, okay?
	In terms of like We don't want to promote bad skincare.
	We want to encourage healthy skincare routines for everybody in our life.
	And we want to make it a part of healthy living.
	What you put into your body in terms of your nutrition, it impacts your complexion.
	If you're not using moisturizer on a daily basis, if you're not using a cleanser on your face, if you're not taking care of your skin, you're going to age faster.
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	I really like them.
	I wash my face when I wake up in the morning and I put moisturizer on.
	And of course I also do that at night time too if I don't, you know, just pass out on my couch with my dogs from being so exhausted from, you know, working as hard as I do.
	Sometimes I do that.
	Sometimes I have this bad habit of falling asleep with my dogs with all my makeup on and then I wake up with Mecca or Lemur licking my cheek and I'm like, ugh, don't do that.
	I gotta go take my makeup off.
	And put my GenuCell on before I go to bed.
	Let's go back to the chat.
	Mitch McConnell's turkey nut can use it.
	Yes!
	If you are Bitch McConnell, who has a massive turkey neck, he can definitely use the GenuCell firming tightening cream on his neck.
	Somebody said she forgot that she said that she used this.
	Then remembered.
	She's hilarious.
	Yeah.
	Don't ever say that I don't do a good product read.
	Okay?
	The best product read ever.
	There is no need of a learning curve.
	Trump, 100%.
	Thank you, Laura.
	Brass ovaries.
	Loomer.
	Thank you so much.
	Appreciate that.
	Very nice.
	Let's see.
	Loomer is 24-7.
	Yep, we got another one.
	Thank you so much.
	My skin is tight.
	We use GenuCell.
	Oh, amazing.
	I've heard good things about GenuCell.
	Yeah, you know, I like it.
	I really like it.
	I really do.
	So, again, I only promote products that I use myself.
	And that's why I show you the products live on the air.
	I keep it here.
	Um, everybody knows that it's like this whole ordeal for me.
	I come in and I'm rushed and I'm like, Oh my God, I've been working all day.
	I need to do my hair.
	I need to do my makeup.
	And I keep it here in the office as well because I sometimes get ready and I'm literally like in the bathroom doing my hair and my makeup or putting my, my skin care treatment on my face while I'm trying to review You know, all of, all of my, my, my show, my show scripts and all of the stories that I'm going to be talking about for the show.
	So, uh, it's really great.
	You can, you can even get multiple sets and you can keep them in multiple locations, get a travel set for when you travel, keep one at your office or keep a packet of the gen you sell at your home.
	Uh, but it's, um, it's also the packaging is very light too.
	So I like it because it's, it's not bulky and you can just easily throw it in a handbag, uh, and you can throw it in your suitcase and you're good to go.
	Would you agree the wall is real and undefeated, generally speaking?
	I don't really understand the question.
	Are you talking about the southern border wall?
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	I'm so sorry.
	I really don't know what you're saying.
	Thank you, though, for the $1.
	She vets everything.
	Let's see.
	You need to advertise to the whole Senate.
	Yes, we do.
	We need some, like, term limits or age limits in the Senate.
	It's pretty crazy, isn't it?
	Let's see.
	I think we have some live callers.
	If you want to call in to the show, I believe we have a caller on the line right now.
	Do we?
	We have Will from California.
	Will, can you hear me?
	Oh, hey, Laura.
	We love your investigative journalism.
	We need more of your tenacity as well.
	Thank you so much!
	Are you just tuning in, or did you catch my interview with Vivek Ramaswamy?
	We love Vivek, and we loved the interview, and actually, I called in a couple of weeks ago over Owen Schroyer and him being in Mike Johnson's district.
	Yeah, and you know, I do remember you calling in, and I have an update.
	I want to break this live on my show.
	So, Owen's lawyer, Norm Pattis, reached out to me the other day.
	And he actually told me that he contacted Mike Johnson's office.
	OK, breaking news here on the show.
	He called, he messaged me and was like, Laura, I saw the report and I reached out to Mike Johnson's office in Louisiana and he ignored him.
	He never got back to him.
	And so Mike Johnson, not only has he not released the January 6th tapes, but he also is ignoring the lawyer and the counsel for Owen Schroer, who is a very famous pro-Trump You know, InfoWars host, okay?
	Who's now sitting in solitary confinement.
	Since the last time we spoke, he's now been ordered to be in solitary confinement by the crooked DOJ.
	So, I think that you would like to know that Mike Johnson is a bullshit artist when it comes to not only just releasing the J6 tapes, but also when it comes to even helping somebody who's imprisoned wrongfully in his own district.
	So, you know, Norm Patus isn't exactly, like, You know, an unknown guy.
	He's a pretty famous attorney in America.
	He's represented a lot of very high-profile clients.
	He represented Alex Jones.
	He represents Owen Schroer.
	He is one of the most well-known attorneys in the Connecticut area, where he generally practices.
	But I just found it really interesting that Mike Johnson would ignore him.
	Absolutely.
	Norm has asked to come on my show.
	He's seen Loomer Unleashed.
	He saw the segment that we had about Owen the other day and Norm Patus, who is Owen Troyer's attorney.
	Unfortunately, Owen is sitting in a gulag right now for J six.
	Asked to come on the show, and we will be getting Norm Patus on the show to advocate and talk about.
	Mike Johnson's negligence and also advocate for his client's own Troyer.
	So stay tuned to that.
	And I want to, again, thank you so much for bringing that to my attention.
	Because that clip, when we posted it, Will, it went super viral online and so many people called the office of Mike Johnson, who I'm told now is only taking voicemails.
	So he doesn't want to hear from you.
	He doesn't want to hear your calls about the continued resolution.
	He's really sick and tired of people calling him and asking him about the J6 tapes.
	But I'm told now that from people who called him today, during office hours, that they did not have a live operator.
	They were instead sending everything to voicemail.
	Which is ironic because he just... What?
	They didn't.
	They haven't been.
	But we've been loading up the voicemail, so we've been maxing it out.
	And we've been giving him every angle we possibly can over everything, including the CR.
	And it just appears You know, just when we thought we had a guy in there with his hand on the Bible, it appears that he's bought and paid for as well.
	Yeah, you know, he likes to talk big talk about the Bible, and he likes to talk big talk about his faith, but at the end of the day, right, thou shalt not lie.
	And he's a liar, okay?
	And if he really is a man of God, and he really is as faithful as he says he is, then he should be staying true to his promises.
	And he did say that he was, you know, a proud evangelical, and he did also say that we were done with the continued resolutions, and yet hours ago, what did we see?
	We saw that in the House they just voted on a two-part continued resolution, which I'm told Schumer and McConnell both approve of, and so I'm sure you will now see the Senate approve this continued resolution, which is of course more money for Ukraine, more broken promises about releasing the J6 tapes, Nothing in there about securing our southern border.
	We're being invaded, okay?
	Nothing in there about defunding the DOJ and the FBI as they're ramping up their attacks, okay?
	70 Republicans voted this week.
	We can get this pulled up on the screen too.
	Article on LUMARD.com.
	LUMARD.com, you can see for yourself.
	70 Republicans this week voted against an amendment to strip the FBI of $300 million of additional funding that was supposed to be in this budget.
	That is gonna go towards them having, right there, 70 House Republicans vote in favor of funding 300 million FBI buildings.
	So the FBI wants to expand their headquarter office to be larger than life.
	They want it to be larger than the Pentagon actually, okay, which is massive already in itself.
	Why does the FBI need a building structure, a headquarter office that is larger than the Pentagon?
	I really just want to know, why do they need that?
	Why do they need that?
	Why does the FBI need to expand and why are 70 Republicans... Who are these people?
	I mean, we know who they are because I put their names down there, okay?
	So I hope that all of you take the time to go and read this article and call all of these people.
	Not that calling really matters, but you gotta start being aggressive.
	Hey, you got to show up at their office and get in their faces.
	I'm not saying violence.
	Okay, I'm not saying be violent, but I'm saying you got to get in their face of the camera and you got to start being aggressive and you got to start shaming these people show up to their town halls and call them out.
	Don't be violent.
	Don't be don't be physical but get in these people's faces at their town hall events go to their meetings publicly and start Hey Laura, can I ask you one last question before I go?
	don't give a shit about your phone calls.
	Okay.
	How many more phone numbers are we going to post?
	That's why I don't post phone calls anymore.
	I sometimes do, but I'm not one of these people that's like, Oh my God, you know, it's going to get, all you got to do is leave 10 phone calls with your representative.
	It's going to get done.
	It's going to get done.
	I promise.
	No, they're not going to do anything.
	They're not going to do anything.
	Yeah.
	Hey, Laura, I, can I ask you one last question before I go?
	I want to know with all of this coming up against Trump and he's up against a huge wall and it just seems to get bigger every day.
	The lawfare is ridiculous.
	These, uh, this whole issue in New York and Georgia is ridiculous and why they, the courts are now totally refusing any receipts to be laid on the table, which is what I've been just dying for.
	Instead of these judges, we need something by jury.
	But let's just say something does happen.
	And I just loved your interview with Vivek.
	Would you consider asking Donald Trump to throw his support should he decide not to run to Vivek Ramaswamy?
	I don't have... people seem to think that I just have President Trump on speed dial, you know?
	I want to manifest that into reality, right?
	That'd be great.
	But I don't have that type of relationship with President Trump.
	President Trump obviously knows who I am, but I don't just call President Trump and say, oh, by the way, you know?
	Do this, right?
	I want President Trump to be the nominee.
	I don't want President Trump to not be on the ballot.
	So I don't really think that that's going to be the situation at hand because President Trump can still run from a jail cell.
	We already know that President Trump can and will run from a jail cell if he ends up getting locked up.
	And I think that every single time President Trump is arrested or indicted or faces any of these attacks in the courts, his poll numbers skyrocket, right?
	He's already up another five points this week, beating all the challengers.
	Um, but I do know that they have mutual respect for each other.
	I asked Vivek tonight, as you saw, to drop out and endorse Trump and to instead run for RNC chair.
	He declined.
	And, you know, I can't force him, unfortunately.
	I'm not a social credit dominatrix like Nikki Haley, and so I'm not going to use the Leto heels as ammunition to force people into doing what I want.
	But, uh, you know...
	I do hope that eventually, when Vivek drops out, when he realizes that there's no path to victory, which I think I repeated myself multiple times tonight, I made that very clear.
	I respect his right to continue running.
	I don't want him to, because I think that it's a diversion of resources and attention from, you know, the need to unite behind Donald Trump.
	But he at least has committed to fully support and campaign with and endorse Donald Trump if, you know, the campaign continues and then eventually, like, the process plays out and you get to see Trump becomes the nominee.
	So, you can't force somebody to drop out, but you can ask them whether they will commit to endorsing and supporting Trump, and he did.
	He did that tonight.
	We love him because he's really got skin in the game, being a first-generation, you know, migrant parent.
	And the whole American dream, he's living it.
	He doesn't have ties to the Absolutely.
	Thank you so much.
	You take care, dear.
	him do.
	He speaks the truth, and he would be a fine representative should something happen to Trump here, God forbid.
	But anyway, it's great talking to you.
	Thanks for giving me the time to talk to you again, and we're going to keep bombarding Mike Johnson, whether he likes it or not.
	Absolutely.
	Thank you so much.
	You take care, dear.
	You too.
	All righty, we got about 15 minutes or so left.
	Got to prepare for tomorrow's debate.
	So I want to use these last few moments as well to take a few more questions.
	If you have any more super chats or any last questions, because tomorrow is going to be a very busy day, of course, and I'm going to be debating Dave Smith on zero hedge on the issue of the Israel and Hamas war.
	So be sure that you are Watching live tomorrow and you're following on Rumble at 730 Eastern because you're going to want to tune in to that as well.
	Let's go back to the chat really quick because we have some new Super Chats and we have some new comments.
	Oversight is needed in America.
	We're tired of hearing Trump appointed, Obama appointed.
	Judges are elected to enforce the law equally.
	Their biased decisions are making Americans unsafe.
	Yeah, they are making Americans unsafe.
	Absolutely correct.
	Thank you for the Super Chat.
	How did you like me asking Don Jr.
	about you as press secretary?
	Oh my god!
	That was you, Ricky Sky!
	Thank you so much.
	You really caused quite a storm there.
	You got media matters.
	I'm not going to say the Trump campaign issued this statement because of me, but it is pretty interesting.
	Yesterday the Trump campaign actually issued a statement about the transition team, and obviously Don Jr.
	was part serious, but also at the same time he was You know, saying how funny it would be if I was press secretary because I'm such a ball buster, right?
	But the Trump campaign, if you go to my Twitter, you can go to my Twitter account and And see this in the media section, probably since I post so much.
	But they issued a statement, and I'm not saying they issued it because of me, but there were several comments made this week like, oh, Laura Loomer should be press secretary, and Mike Davis is gonna be attorney general, and Tucker Carlson's gonna be VP, and it caused the media to go haywire.
	And they were all publishing these reports that went viral and got millions of views about how Laura Loomer's gonna be press secretary.
	And so, um...
	And right there, right there, right there.
	Justin, Trump's advisors, Susie Wiles and Chris Lasavita on media speculation about the transition efforts.
	And so really they were just reaffirming because they probably ended up getting so many questions, right?
	Because there were so many media articles written about, oh, you know, is Laura Leamer really going to be press secretary?
	And I'm not saying that this statement was written because of me, or Mike Davis, or Tucker Carlson, but you saw Tucker at the UFC fight, and this statement came shortly after because the media was just going crazy with the speculation, like, oh, are they already deciding who the VP and the Press Secretary and the Attorney General is?
	And then you had Steve Bannon go on some HBO show and basically, like, affirm, like, definitively, that Mike, uh, Mike, um, Mike, uh, Mike, uh, That, that, uh, that he was gonna be, uh, that he was gonna be at the Attorney General.
	So, that, I don't know, his name is, like, slipping, slipping on the, slipping my tongue right now.
	I'll pull up the clip right now and you can see, but Mike Davis, Mike Davis, I think I said Mike Adams, talking about Mike Davis.
	But he had said, oh, you know, there's kind of like contentious interview between Bannon and the guy from the show The Circus.
	I think it's on HBO, if I'm not, or Showtime, Showtime, right?
	And, you know, these guys are very confrontational.
	They approached me when I was at DeSantis' book signing, when I first called them out for trying to run against Trump in this, like, very duplicitous shadow presidential campaign.
	So they show up and they, you know, they try to ask provocative questions, and they're Trump haters and they're leftists, right?
	But they like getting into confrontations on this show that's a political show that they do where they, you know, they travel across the country.
	It's called The Circus.
	And so Bannon basically was like, yeah, Mike Davis is going to be Attorney General.
	And so who knows?
	I'm not saying that this is why Trump's campaign issued the statement, but it was kind of funny because, you know, the media just has no sense of humor.
	And it also just goes to show you like how scared they are of President Trump getting back into office, because if they actually thought that Donald Trump wasn't going to win, They wouldn't be writing articles and asking the Trump campaign to issue statements about the transition team.
	So let's go ahead.
	We're gonna play this clip really quick just because it's so funny.
	And you already saw the press secretary clip from the other night.
	I mean, we could play it again, but this is why the media is going so crazy.
	Play it.
	Democrats have been freaking out over these polls over the weekend that put Trump up in a bunch of the battleground states.
	In 2016, when you were originally involved in the campaign, Donald Trump stood up at the convention and said, I am your voice!
	And now Trump says, I am your retribution.
	I am your retribution.
	Backward-looking, vengeful, grievance-driven.
	You know that the way people win in America is to talk about the future?
	They talk about the future?
	I'm so sick of people saying elections are about the future.
	That is total bullshit.
	Are they about the voters?
	It's about the lived experience of the voters.
	Because the lived experience of life sucks.
	And the reason it sucks is a fucking unfeeling uniparty in Washington, D.C.
	that says, go fuck yourself, you're nothing but serfs, and we don't give a shit about you.
	It's every four years.
	Donald Trump cares about them?
	They respond to Trump, and they look back at Trump's presidency and say, hey, my wages were higher, inflation was lower, we weren't at wars all over the place, maybe the guy's a jerk, but he's a badass and the world fears him.
	He's a badass?
	All he does is complain about people.
	A whiny, vengeful, backward-looking billionaire.
	That's forward-looking.
	That's forward-looking.
	I want a take on the administrative state that's driven this country into the ground.
	He's not talking about taking on the administrative staff to help people's lives.
	He's talking about going after the people that were mean to him.
	He says, oh, I'm going to have the DOJ target Bill Barr because he was mean to me.
	I'm going to have the DOJ target John Kelly because he turned on me.
	I'm going to have the DOJ target Jeff Smith.
	That's not true.
	That's all he talks about.
	He doesn't talk about helping people.
	That's not true.
	That's not true.
	But here's my question.
	You have a MAGA lawyer that likes to go on your podcast, Mike Davis?
	Here's what he has suggested are the top priorities for Trump's Attorney General.
	One, fire the Deep State Executive Branch.
	Two, indict the whole Biden family.
	Three, deport 10 million people, kids in cages.
	It will be glorious.
	Four, detain people at Gitmo.
	Five, pardon every January 6th defendant.
	What do you think about that five-step plan?
	I think it's fantastic.
	All five?
	All five.
	We're going to start the largest deportation program in history.
	All 10 million must leave.
	You're saying that it's about people's gut feelings, it's about people's lived experiences.
	You think somebody that's struggling?
	You think somebody that's struggling right now in the economy cares about firing random deep state people, indicting Joe Biden's brother, deporting people?
	Did I say that's all they're going to do?
	That's Mike Davis.
	It would probably be the Attorney General.
	Attorney General.
	That's what these people do, you know?
	They're antagonizers, and they're just so dumbfounded.
	They're like, you're going to support all the illegal aliens?
	You're going to pardon the J6ers?
	Oh, the horror!
	You see their faces.
	It's like, yeah, that's what we're going to do.
	And we're going to lock you up, too.
	Just kidding.
	But, you know, you know, maybe maybe these people.
	You know, maybe it's good that they feel scared, right?
	Because they should understand the fear that conservatives have on a daily basis if they're gonna get their homes knocked in or get their doors kicked in by the FBI.
	So, it is really funny, right?
	Like, watching these people get so scared, like, wait, you support kicking all the illegals out?
	And you support bringing these people that are wrongfully imprisoned by the DOJ?
	Yeah, we do.
	And we're going to do a lot more, too.
	We're going to deport these people.
	So, obviously, it got a lot of attention because what Don Jr.
	said turned into Steve Bannon talking about it.
	The media went crazy.
	You can even pull it up.
	You can see for yourself.
	There was a Media Eye article where it was like, she's a bulldog.
	Trump Jr.
	says Laura Lamer should be press secretary.
	And I don't know.
	The media just went nuts.
	No, right there, scroll down.
	She's a bulldog, right there.
	She's a bulldog, man.
	Trump Jr.
	says he wants conspiracy theorists.
	I'm a conspiracy realist.
	Everything I say turns out to be true.
	Conspiracy realist, not a theorist.
	Laura Loomer to be his dad's White House press secretary.
	So, yeah, look.
	The left just went ballistic, and I think, I'm not saying that that's why Trump's campaign released that statement, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were just, like, so overwhelmed with media requests because of how viral this went.
	I mean, it was on Showtime, it was on Don Jr.' 's show, it was all over the place, and everybody was just talking about me and Mike Davis, so, you know, who knows?
	The media just doesn't have a sense of humor either, right?
	I mean, part of the reason why, like, you know, this clip went so viral is because everybody knows that Mike and I are both ball busters, right, and they know our style, and that's why the media's freaking out, so.
	We weren't trying to cause any problems for the Trump campaign, of course.
	Yeah, here's another, here's a Yahoo News article.
	Go back to that one.
	That one's funny, too.
	This one is funny.
	Don Junior is already angling.
	Controversial.
	Oh, go back.
	Go back.
	Internet personality to be Donald's press secretary.
	Interesting.
	So.
	You know, we already went over this on the last episode, too, on episode 8, so you can go back and watch that as well.
	You can also read these articles on your own time, but I'm just showing you, you know, how viral this went because the media went ballistic.
	So let's go back to the chat because we're going to take a couple more questions before we end at 11 Eastern because we do have to also prepare for tomorrow's big debate.
	WRHH.
	Not sure how to pronounce that, but thank you for the Rumble rant.
	$2.
	We love you, Queen.
	You're so pretty.
	Question, did your Twitter payouts improve after you called Elon out?
	Not really.
	No.
	Trump haters are still making more money than me on Twitter, so.
	Whatever.
	You know?
	Someone said, "You made a difference.
	Excellent work.
	When is Loomer, your dog, coming on the show?
	Aw, should we have a dog episode?
	Like, bring your pet to the studio day?
	She barks!
	See, if I bring her in, she's gonna be like, I want attention!
	And she's gonna keep on barking, and she's not gonna stop.
	So, I might bring them in one day, and then we can... You know what we were talking about, too, is we were talking about getting a dog cam, and so we're not done designing the studio, okay?
	We were actually talking about getting a dog cam, And I said, hey, there's like a bar up there.
	Why don't we put a bar up on the wall and put like a moving camera so that we could have that or maybe there's a way to like put my ring camera, you know, to like simulate the feed from my ring camera so that we can check on the dogs like live on the show since my poor little babies aren't home and waiting for mommy to come home.
	Puppy update please.
	Loomer and Mecca.
	They're so cute.
	I love them so much.
	I woke up this morning and Mecca was cuddling with me and then I went out and I wake up and I go on the couch and I sit out there and Loomer sometimes wants to sleep on the couch and so I always give her a big kiss in the morning and I was like, who's a cute little baby?
	And then they jump all over each other and it's so cute.
	They're so adorable.
	I woke up this morning and I went out to go let Mecca out and then she jumps up on the couch and she's licking Loomer's face.
	That's Loomer right there.
	You can see her.
	Aww.
	That was in June.
	That's for Loomer.
	Little baby Loomer.
	That was the birthday cup I got her.
	Her little puppy cup.
	They're like these little peanut butter cups for dogs that they make at Publix.
	They sell at Publix.
	And then I got her a little birthday hat a while ago, so.
	Aww.
	She's so cute.
	I love them so much.
	Aww.
	Maybe we will.
	We'll get a dog cam so that you guys can see the little doggies.
	Put one in the chat.
	Let's see the chat.
	Do you guys want a dog cam?
	Do you press one if you want a dog cam so that you can see what my dogs are doing when I'm on the show?
	You know?
	We could just, like, tune into the dogs and see if they're cuddling with each other.
	Wouldn't that be so cute?
	Aww.
	Everybody loves the dogs.
	We love dogs here.
	An English bulldog.
	Yes, a bulldog just like me.
	That's why I got a bulldog.
	Someone said, Loomer is nuts, but that's why we love her.
	Yes.
	I'm your kind of crazy.
	Okay?
	I'm your kind of crazy.
	Press 1 in the chat if you want to see the dog cam.
	OK, you guys, we have to get a dog cam.
	So I'm telling my producer, OK, we're going to get a dog cam.
	The people have spoken.
	They want to see Loomer and Mecca.
	They want to see the puppies.
	So we're going to show them the puppies.
	OK.
	Wow, that was some very excellent moderating right there.
	My mods are on it!
	I saw what that person just called me, and the mods are on it.
	Very good, moderators.
	Very good.
	Somebody said, oh, Paul and Gracia.
	Thank you, Paul.
	We love Paul.
	Paul said I'm an honorary Sicilian.
	He said that the passion in me makes me like one of those hot Italian women, you know, like just so full of fire.
	So I'm an honorary Sicilian.
	He said Laura's not nuts.
	She's just passionate.
	Thank you, Paul.
	Paul and I got to take a photo with President Trump, too.
	Let's show the photo.
	There's me and Paul and Gracia.
	Special shout out, there's me, Paula Gracia, my friend Mike Crispy, and President Trump.
	So we were all hanging out together the other day covering the Trump rally and it's great because Paul is President Trump's favorite sub-stacker and he's always commenting on Trump's, well Trump is always commenting on his sub-stack so it's very nice, very nice.
	I like hanging out with people that also love Trump.
	Ohio soon?
	What, you want me to come to Ohio?
	Do we need to take a road trip?
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	We're gonna go to Iowa for sure.
	We were just talking about that today for the Iowa Caucus.
	You know my producers from Iowa and you know how these people talk in Iowa.
	They're like, I've got an idea.
	I've got an idea.
	I have an idea, Laura.
	I have an idea.
	Let's go and I'm from Iowa.
	I'll show you all around and you'll be the most popular girl in the cornfield.
	That's what he told me.
	He said, you're going to be the most popular girl in the cornfield.
	I've got an idea.
	We're going to go and we're going to get interviews with people about Trump and DeSantis.
	Okay.
	We're going to go to Iowa, Laura.
	I have an idea.
	That's how he pronounces it.
	And I'm like, why do you talk like that?
	And I said, why do you talk this way?
	Why do you say idea?
	He's like, Laura, I cannot help it.
	I'm from Iowa.
	We say idea.
	I've got an idea.
	So he's got lots of great ideas, which is why he's my producer.
	Right?
	Thumbs up.
	Somebody said, uh, Laura Loomer, will you marry me?
	Why does everybody want to take me out of the game?
	I just don't understand.
	I'm married to the cause.
	Married to the cause.
	Why does everybody want to take me out?
	Thank you.
	Someone said, you know you're making a difference when you have such vile enemies.
	Wow.
	Oh man, somebody is spamming my chat with, uh, see you next Tuesday.
	Yikes.
	Someone said all trolls are gonna get supported.
	Yes!
	We are operating the biggest mass deportation effort after President Trump.
	Okay?
	Someone said she's married to the game.
	Don't hate the playa, hate the game.
	That is so true.
	That is so true.
	Someone said you are redeeming the word mafioso.
	That is true.
	Somebody said to me the other day, they overheard me and Mike talking about, and Paul, about how, oh, Laura, you could be an honorary Sicilian.
	You can join our Italian organization.
	Because they actually wrote a letter to President Trump, and they said that he was an honorary Italian, okay?
	And President Trump actually posted it.
	And so he thanked them for being initiated into his organization.
	And this was, you know, something that Paul Ingrassi and Mike Crispy did.
	And somebody was like, you know what?
	You are so fiercely loyal as a woman.
	You remind me of a mob wife.
	So maybe you really are Italian, Laura.
	Maybe you really are.
	Let's go back to the chat.
	Let's see.
	Laura's producer should be the director of ICE.
	Wow.
	But I want to have fun too.
	I want to be the director of ICE.
	I want that job.
	Thank you for all your amazing journalism.
	I was disappointed that you lost your congressional race and was as slandered as you were.
	So glad to see you back in the game.
	Thank you.
	They're trying to silence the truth.
	Trump, Loomer, and all the great patriots.
	When is Vivek coming on, lovely lady?
	Where have you been?
	Baby Rue!
	Baby Rue, you're gonna have to go watch the rerun of this site because Vivek has already been on.
	Vivek was already on tonight, so hopefully you'll tune in.
	Great show, great interview, but obviously a lot of people are busy and have things going on in their life, so this will be available for a replay for everybody that wants to watch it, so don't worry.
	Any last questions?
	We have a caller.
	We're going to take one last call before we sign off for the night.
	Her name is Patriot Verity from Chicago.
	Can you hear me?
	Patriot Verity from Chicago.
	Hi.
	Yeah, actually, well, I was from Chicago.
	I just moved to Indiana, thank God.
	That's what they always just put the name and then, of course, where you're from.
	So caller and where you're calling from.
	Yeah, no problem.
	So thanks for calling in.
	Did you enjoy the interview tonight?
	What'd you think of Vivek?
	Yeah, I really did.
	So I enjoyed that.
	I actually just, I wanted to thank you for that because I have noticed a lot of pushback in the MAGA community and the Trump supporters that, you know, are like longtime loyalists to Trump and things like that.
	And they're very suspicious of Vivek.
	And that's the main reason I wanted to call in because I feel like you being very influential with his supporters can maybe kind of think about their perspective.
	So what they've been telling me is he's suspicious because he agrees with us too much.
	And I've seen a lot of pushback because he's Hindu as well, but what I've been arguing is we can't focus on these long-time queer politicians, people like DeSantis.
	We can't try to teach old dogs new tricks because we're afraid of the unknown, and I feel like they're going to sabotage us in the long run if we're all too afraid to even give people a chance.
	So that's kind of my concern right now.
	I've just seen a lot of it, and I'm wondering if you've noticed that.
	You know, look, I think that President Trump has a movement, and obviously I feel very similarly.
	I don't know why people wouldn't like Vivek for being Hindu or anything, but I think that the thing is, it's what I said when I first had him on the show tonight, is that you're not going to change my mind, because I'm Trump all the way.
	You know, I'm a ride-or-die.
	I'll handcuff myself to the jail if he ever ends up going to jail, and people know that I will.
	Right?
	I've handcuffed myself to buildings before.
	But you know, we are loyal to President Trump.
	But what's interesting about Vivek is that he's not trying to undermine Trump by running in the same race, right?
	He has been respectful.
	He has actually praised President Trump.
	And I think that out of all the candidates, he's the only one that actually really is shaking things up outside of Donald Trump, of course, on the debate stage.
	And he has relevant points.
	And President Trump is not going to live forever.
	I wish that he would.
	I wish that we could, like, cryogenically freeze him and that we could, you know, make him king of America.
	And then, you know, watch Media Matters clip this clip and say, oh, you know, Trump supporter praised by Trump says she wants to make Trump king of America, you know?
	Look, Trump is so great that there's not a lot of people that are going to be able to carry the torch.
	So, you know, we have this own graphic pulled up here that we often show in the studio here, right?
	King Trump!
	But what I'm saying is that we are going to need other leaders that are going to At least try their best, although no one's going to 100% succeed in the future of 100% emulating President Trump and his incredible legacy.
	But we are going to need new leaders in the future, and I think that Vivek has a good point.
	Like, we're not going to have Trump forever, and we're going to be lucky if we get him for another four years, and then after that we need to start, you know, molding and shaping the party.
	And so whether that means that Vivek is running now to gain support for a potential 2028 race, Who knows what's going to happen, right?
	But we, I think that he definitely, nobody was really able to interject this whole resign Ronna Romney thing into the media as much as he did.
	I tried my best in January and I thought that I did a pretty good job with the media attention I got with the national TV ads I ran, but I'm not running for president, right?
	And so when you have a presidential candidate literally hijack, and I say that with endearment because I like hijacking narratives, okay?
	Hijack the entire The entire media narrative around the GOP presidential debate so that it becomes, you know, a fight between Vivek and Rana Romney.
	You have to admire somebody who is not only that tenacious, but also that effective at messaging.
	And he is speaking for the base.
	And you don't have to vote for Vivek Ramaswamy to admit that he did a service to the Republican base that is oftentimes not heard.
	By calling for Rona Romney to resign.
	And I love President Trump, but one of the things that I've criticized President Trump for, and people say that I don't criticize him, and I do, is that he sometimes gives a pass to people who don't deserve it.
	And he's loyal to people who are not loyal to him, like Kevin McCarthy in the past and Rona Romney.
	They are not worthy or deserving of his endorsement.
	And so I'm calling on President Trump to call for Rona Romney to resign.
	I was happy to see that he didn't stand up for McCarthy when we had the motion to vacate.
	I wish he would have been more aggressive in opposing Kevin McCarthy and not have stayed out because I would have loved to have watched Trump chop McCarthy's balls off on a national stage so that he was forced into retirement.
	Hopefully we can do the same thing to Ronna Romney.
	But the vague is now forcing us to have this conversation, right?
	And Trump is now seeing, wow, you know, a lot of people really don't like Ronna Romney, right?
	Maybe she really is that bad after all.
	And nobody's perfect, right?
	I love President Trump.
	Nothing's going to change my mind in voting for him.
	I'm a diehard MAGA loyalist.
	But, you know, there is something to be said about why President Trump kept on supporting Ronna Romney.
	And it's time, if we want to have leadership and we want to win in 2024, I would advise, if I was one of President Trump's advisors, I would be saying, listen, President Trump. - Thank you.
	We gotta win.
	You're a man of results.
	You like winners.
	Ronna Romney's a loser.
	We can't allow for our party to be the party of losers.
	This woman did nothing when your election was stolen from you.
	She violated your cease and desist order to raise money off of your image, likeness, and name, and she's gotta go.
	And hopefully he listens.
	I really hope he listens.
	And I feel like Trump, people say he's a narcissist.
	I think he's humble because Trump, a lot of times, he has these people and he sees what's good in them and I think he can't see past it, honestly.
	And I don't think that's a bad thing, necessarily.
	I think it's a good quality that he's a decent human being and he wants to think the best.
	But like you said, at some point, It's time to just cut the strings and realize that your base doesn't want it.
	And Vivek came in as a unique candidate.
	I'm 100% voting for Trump.
	I'm a fairly new Trump supporter, but completely unwavering in that one.
	Right.
	But I would like to see him stay, like you said, RNC chair or VP or something like that.
	And I like that he didn't come in as beyond meat Trump like DeSantis did, trying to be like a fake version of Donald Trump, thinking that was going to win us over because he was younger or whatever his excuse was.
	It's really funny that you say that.
	I think Vivek is running the campaign that DeSantis should have run, right?
	If DeSantis really wanted to have a political career and he's effectively committed political suicide, he should have run the campaign that Vivek is running.
	Where Vivek is running!
	He's challenging Trump just like all these other candidates, but he's not doing it in an obnoxious way that's pissing off the base.
	The base actually respects him.
	And you'll notice that President Trump has not attacked Vivek precisely for this reason.
	President Trump, I would say, is a narcissist.
	I don't think that's a bad quality.
	You want your president to be a narcissist because if you're going to be the most powerful man in the world, you better be a narcissist, okay?
	You better think that you are the most powerful person in the world.
	Because you have to lead through a position of strength, which is why people are laughing at us right now.
	Because we have an Alzheimer's patient in the White House who doesn't even convey a sense of confidence.
	So I don't think it's a bad thing to be a narcissist.
	I think that it has its pros and its cons.
	I think that Trump is a narcissist and that it's one of the reasons why he's been able to have so much financial success and professional success and political success.
	And so I don't necessarily think narcissism is a bad thing.
	But sometimes when you are a narcissist, you have a hard time He's a very gracious person.
	He's very generous.
	I would say that he's humble as well like he's not ostentatious.
	He's not He's not for somebody who is a billionaire.
	He's not nasty or he doesn't think that he's above anybody else but but sometimes when you are a narcissist you sometimes don't You know, think that people would betray, right?
	You think like, oh, well, they're gonna do to me like I've done to them, just as you said.
	And Trump has such a big heart, right?
	And he's such a genuine person that he really, really expects people to return this sense of loyalty to him when he's also being loyal.
	He said this in an interview with Charlie Rose years ago, right?
	That loyalty is important and that one of the biggest horrors that That you could commit against another person is is disloyalty.
	Okay, so I I don't think that Trump is being malicious I just think that you know He he has blind spots at times that are caused by the fact that he is a loyal person who expects loyalty in return But these people are not loyal.
	They're not loyal to him Yeah, no, I agree with you, and I think that's reflected in his sister, Rest in Peace.
	I feel terrible that he's probably going through that.
	People were posting clips about her saying, well, all he cares about is his base.
	And I was laughing, like, is this supposed to be for his campaign?
	Because that's a good thing.
	That's what you're supposed to care about the most when you're a politician.
	And they were acting like this was a negative aspect of him.
	And before I hung up or whatever, I just wanted to say thank you.
	I appreciate everything you do and when I was researching into DeSantis' corrupt background like with his deputy press secretary and the horrible things that he posted about January 6th is how I found you a few months ago and I genuinely appreciated
	So much of what you've done, and my 12-year-old daughter wanted me to tell you that she said hi because I was watching it with her and I told you in the chat, I don't know if you saw it, but she was saying that, how does Ronan and Daniel spend so much money on beauty or whatever, and she still looks like that.
	Your 12-year-old said that?
	Oh my god, that's a really good question.
	My 12-year-old daughter was like, how is she still ugly?
	I was like, honey, I don't know.
	I don't want my kids to end up where I was a few years ago.
	like the kids say the darndest thing.
	So you're telling me Loomer Unleashed is a family show.
	Loomer Unleashed is a family show is what you're saying.
	Absolutely.
	In my house it is.
	Yeah, I don't want my kids to end up where I was a few years ago.
	I was absolutely brainwashed and 2020 flipped me a complete...
	complete 180 and I realized everything that happened and it's kind of like a personal endeavor now that I will never vote Democrat again as far as I can see at this point.
	So, yeah.
	And what's your daughter's name?
	Everything.
	What's your daughter's name?
	My daughter's name is Calais.
	Rhymes with ballet, but with a K. Ballet?
	Yeah, Calais.
	Hi, Callie!
	Thank you so much for tuning in.
	Appreciate it.
	And do me a favor, too, because I know you texted the number.
	I want to send you and your daughter a Donald Trump Did Nothing Wrong shirt and a signed copy of my book as well.
	So make sure you text my producer the spelling of your name and your daughter's name and your sizes, and I want to make sure that we get some shirts and some books out for you guys.
	Thank you.
	That's really sweet.
	You don't have to, but I appreciate it anyway.
	You're really nice.
	And yeah, like I said, I just, I appreciate everything you're doing and that you are so good at telling when people are, you know, genuine.
	That means a lot to me because I've been saying it for months, but I'm a tiny, you know, person.
	I'm not like a huge influencer.
	My Twitter only has like 5,000 people on it, not like you.
	So it's hard to get that message across to everyone.
	So when you, you know, we're willing to interview this person that's new and try to give them a chance, That means a lot to me, because I feel like we have no one right now that I think is even worthy of sitting in Senate, in Congress, anywhere.
	And he doesn't have a chance.
	He's not going to be the nominee, okay?
	He's got 6%.
	Oh, no.
	But I mean, in politics.
	He's got 6% right now.
	But at the end of the day, at least he's genuine, right?
	Even if he knows that he's not going to win, at least he's committed to finishing.
	And like he said, he wants to connect with young people.
	And he's a very wealthy man.
	I mean, he's got hundreds of millions of dollars, from my understanding.
	Vivek has made a fortune.
	He's self-funding a lot of his campaign.
	And you have to admire somebody that is investing so much of their own money and their resources.
	And he's got two small children and a wife.
	And I'm sure that His wife and his kids would love to spend more time with him as well, but he's put his money into this and he's committed to go out there and message, and I think that he really is, even if he doesn't become the nominee, I really think he's doing a service to the Republican Party by condemning the weaponization of government, teaching people the importance of having integrity and principles, like standing up against the weaponization of government against Trump even when you're running against him for the same seat, and also to, you know,
	Showing young people that, yeah, you can be fun and energetic and, you know, it's not just this party of a bunch of old men, right?
	We have youth and we have people with exciting ideas and we're willing to call out the party and we're calling out Wall Street, we're calling out Big Pharma, we're calling out all types of things.
	And I know that some people have said, oh, well, you know, how can he call out Big Pharma and all this stuff when he made all this money in Big Pharma?
	Look, yeah, I think it's a fair and legitimate point, and I was going to bring it up tonight as well.
	You had to go.
	But at the end of the day, everybody has a background, right?
	Like Trump used to be a registered Democrat.
	And then, of course, you know, Trump's a Republican.
	So people said, Oh, Trump can't be president because he was once a registered Democrat.
	He donates to all these Democrats.
	Well, you know, sometimes we saw that that's how outsiders are generally.
	Outsiders are not trying to be politicians.
	They're not trying to run for the sake of making money in Washington, D.C.
	Vivek clearly has hundreds of millions of dollars.
	The salary of the president of the United States is about $400,000 a year.
	I'm sure that Vivek Ramaswamy isn't exactly like, you know, Like, oh, I need the money.
	You know, he's got the money.
	He's not doing this for the money, clearly.
	So I think that we have to admire people who have money, like very wealthy, rich people who decide to run for office because, especially when they want to do it for the right reasons, because they could be living a life of luxury right now.
	But if they're trying to use their platform and their money to change things for the betterment of our country, I think that's something we have to respect, even if we're not voting for Vivek.
	I'm not voting for Vivek.
	I like him.
	I like him.
	I like him a lot.
	Particularly in this climate.
	I think he should drop out and endorse Trump and go be RNC chair.
	I think that he would be a great RNC chair.
	I think that'd be so entertaining.
	I think his idea of having the debates hosted on places like Rumble or Joe Rogan or Yeah, I think it's going to be a lot of fun.
	Um or, you know, even having Elon Musk like he suggested, I think that that would make things more exciting.
	I think that his ideas are fresh and it appeals to zoomers and millennials and.
	Even many boomers as well.
	So again.
	I want to thank you, of course, for your call, and Yeah, I appreciate it, Laura.
	Be sure you text the producer.
	I'm dropping out.
	Yeah, I will.
	No problem.
	My only fear of him dropping out this soon is if anything, God forbid, anything happened to Trump, look what we're stuck with.
	Right.
	Like, we'd have Haley and DeSantis.
	What are we going to do?
	So I was like, can you wait a little longer and then maybe just, like, drop out?
	Well, you got your wish because you said he's not going to be dropping out tonight when I asked him.
	Not yet, but he's not going to get in.
	But I still think, you know, he's good for the future.
	So I look forward to that.
	And thank you so much.
	I will text your producer and I hope you have a great evening.
	You too.
	Thank you for having me on.
	Thank you.
	That's funny.
	Family show, guys!
	It's a family show.
	So, uh, well, I think, uh, let's see.
	We have Keep Up The Fight.
	I bought your book and subscribed to your sub stack.
	Hope you play a big role in Trump's presidency.
	Uh, H Marquis 11.
	Thank you for the $100 Super Chat.
	And then, uh, we have another one.
	$20.
	Stay strong.
	Never change.
	Ignore the haters.
	We love you.
	Can't wait to watch how far you'll continue to soar from Perry.
	Thank you, Perry.
	That is so nice of you.
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