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Aug. 26, 2025 - Liberty Hangout - Kaitlin Bennett
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Black Joy Festival Calls COPS On Me!
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What is the first word that comes to mind when I say the name Donald Trump?
Why is that a relevant question for this event?
She's going to the security already.
The organizer told me you wasn't allowed here, so you are a government employee.
Yes, ma'am.
Okay.
So am I allowed to be here?
You are allowed, but if the person who rents the park don't want you here, it's I can't.
We can't really have you.
Are they asking you to remove me?
They're telling people not to talk to me, interrupting my conversations.
Do they want you to remove me?
Yes, ma'am.
Go ahead and put the mic down on.
Apparently, some people are having issues with the question that you're asking of.
Okay.
So if I just have to try not to follow him around or try to intimidate or harass them.
Alright, because that's the call that we're talking about.
Are you accusing me of doing that?
No, that's what I said.
We got a call for.
You got a call that I was harassing people.
Yes, ma'am.
We are here in Orlando, Florida at the Black Joy Festival.
We're asking people here, what comes to mind when I say the name Donald Trump.
let's get the reactions So the first person we're talking to, I see the the pride, the pride LGBTQ people are telling them not to talk to me.
They're literally the first person she was about to talk to me.
So while they're talking, I'm gonna add something please does not, okay?
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
You I'm sorry, you didn't want me to what?
While they're talking, you don't have to put that in my face either.
Okay, we don't put it in my face.
Okay.
Thank you.
Take your hand off my property.
You can take it out of my face.
My hand is take it off property.
God bless you.
Thank you.
Oh my gosh, the first people we talked to today at the Black Joy Festival.
The uh the pride people told them not to talk to me, which is very interesting.
At a black joy festival, the white person's telling them not to talk to me.
All right, we're off to a good start.
So they're they're actively shouting at people not to not to talk to me.
So this will be a a good a good event.
What's the first word that comes to mind when I say the name Donald Trump?
Pass.
What is the first word that comes to mind when you hear the name Donald Trump?
Loser.
You know what?
That is pretty well-mannered.
No, that's okay.
That's okay.
Yeah.
Why is he why do you think of loser when you hear his name?
I don't think he's doing a good job for people.
Okay.
In general.
I think he's doing it for his class of people, but not for everybody.
He's not seeing the country.
Do you mean wealthy people?
Yes.
He's seeing only the wealthy.
What is the first word that comes to mind when you hear the name Donald Trump?
Oh two words, oh god.
Like uh, yeah, and just I don't know.
What's the word that comes to your mind?
Uh it's also two words, just uh oh.
Oh yeah.
So um I'm just curious what the questions were and what you're doing, like just to be clear, because we just want to make sure the best the best it's uh experience for our attendees.
Oh yeah, no, I think this is an amazing event, and I would uh I hope everyone has a great time today, and I'm here to ask them what the Black Joy Festival is, and then we're doing like a reaction type of question, and we're having a good time.
Yeah, what is the reaction question?
I'm just curious as to I'll ask you what I Alright, there's the camera, here's the microphone.
What is the first word that comes to mind when I say the name Donald Trump?
Why is that a relevant question for this event?
That was more than one word.
I mean, I'm just I'm asking a question back, so that's all.
All right, um she's going to the security already.
We're already hi.
What is the first word that comes to mind when you hear the name?
Donald Trump.
Oh.
Oh.
Can I stay out of this?
I'm gonna answer it.
So why does that come to mind when you hear his name?
He's a kid.
He's a so yeah.
That's why, yeah.
What has he done?
Tw terrible stuff.
Yeah.
Like what?
Like awful things.
Like what?
Like right now with the whole immigration thing.
I don't appreciate that.
Yeah.
What don't you appreciate by illegal aliens being deported from the country?
You said what I do, what do I appreciate about the what don't you appreciate about illegal aliens like deporting?
Hardworking people that are are paying taxes just like all of us, and they should be able to do whatever they need to do.
Um it's unfair.
People have families here that they built, they have children, they have work, they have a lot of things going on.
So yeah.
Totally respect what you're doing.
I just want to ask if anybody and you're not chasing down anybody.
So if any attendee just like walks away, doesn't want to participate, we just ask that you just baby sad.
Yeah, yeah.
Did you go to them to see what was up and they told you that I'm allowed to be here?
No, no, no, no.
I just wanted to change the city.
Someone went to that.
Yeah, you too.
I'm responsible for this response, the staff and the responsibility of our attendees.
So I just want to make sure that if anyone is out here and they don't want to participate, that you're just being respectful of this, letting them.
Yeah, I don't need to be asked to do that.
I saw you didn't chase me down, that's why I see that, but just we want to make sure this experience is safe for everyone.
Okay, yeah.
I don't need to be asked that because I'm an adult and I can follow uh basic human relations.
So sometimes people don't, you know, and I'm just that myself.
Yeah.
We just at least say that for the safety, all right.
Alright, thank you so much.
So um a couple people did go over to the security guards and were complaining about me, and they said she's allowed to be here.
So I'm so glad to know that I won't have to get kicked off of public property today.
Okay.
What is the first word that comes to mind when you hear the name Donald Trump?
Disbelief.
Disbelief?
Disbelief.
Okay.
Why is that?
We didn't learn the first time, and we voted him in the second time.
That is my disbelief.
But unfortunately, everybody deserves a vote.
And the country's voted.
We gotta abide by it, but it's still disbelief.
There has been, you know, for lack of a better term, an attack on, you know, minorities in general, but you know, black people have always kind of had some type of oppression that that goes on.
So it's kind of nice to be a part of an organization or to visit an organization that just focused on culture, quote, focused on having fun and focused on just, you know, just being.
Yeah.
Would you say still in 2025, black people are still oppressed?
I think to a certain to a certain extent.
What's the first word that comes to mind when you hear the name Donald Trump?
Oh, I prefer not to answer.
But I am one of the festival organizers, and we have rented out this space.
So I would uh kindly request that you move and leave the location.
If you guys are on the sidewalk, I can't stop you from being on the sidewalk.
But we have rented out this space.
We have it uh reserved with the city, and we are asking you to.
Yeah, so is this a public park?
It's a reserved space at this time.
Yeah.
So I'm just gonna give you a little bit of information so you can take this and do what you want with it.
Um, I'm not going to be leaving because this is a public park, and whether or not you have a permit here does not change this price this property to private.
So I have every right to be here, and I will not be leaving.
So I'm gonna walk away from you now.
However, you choose to go about what you do next is your business.
But just so you know that this is not private property, and I have every right to be here.
Whether or not you have a permit.
What I said stems and however you feel stands.
No, whatever I said stands, it is what it is.
However, you feel, that's true.
I do have to ask though, why would I not be welcome here?
So you're good to go.
Why would I not be welcome here?
Welcome for most.
Thank you.
We have Mr. Event staff here, but he looks a little different.
Um he asked me to leave, and he said because this is their permitted rented property.
So we're still just, you know, chilling, being nice here.
We'll see what happens, but I don't know.
And I did come prepared.
We have a pocket constitution, but if that's not good enough, then I do have the letter that the attorney general, James Uthmeyer, wrote to Julie Townsend about what it means to have things hosted on public property and how he put them on uh notice.
And so if they don't believe the First Amendment, maybe they will believe the attorney general.
What's your name again?
Kate Lich.
Caitlin, yes, yes.
What watched a whole lot of you?
Yeah.
Well, thank you.
Enjoy your content.
Thank you so much.
Yeah.
What's the first word that comes to mind when you hear the name Donald Trump?
Divisiveness.
Devices.
Yeah, yeah.
Why do you say that?
Just because people feel very strong one way or the other.
You know?
Just they just feel strong one way or the other about them.
Okay.
Some people really like them, some people really Don't.
Yeah.
Do you really like him?
Uh, you know, he is who he is.
Yeah.
He is who he is.
You know, he's a politician.
You know, he's a businessman.
He's a celebrity.
You know, so I don't have a whole lot of strong feelings.
I mean, this guy's done all kinds of stuff.
Why are you telling people not to talk to me?
Why are you doing that?
If you're gonna do it in front of my face, just back it up.
Yes, I am enjoying the festivities.
I am giving the people enjoying in your this is your event staff.
So what's happening is I'm giving you guys a platform.
Stop telling people not to talk to me.
And if you're gonna do it, stop engaging.
Back yourself up.
Why are you doing it?
Stop engaging with people I'm talking to.
You're not engaging comes to mind when you hear the name Donald Trump.
Oh, you're gonna give me only one word.
Pathetic.
Pathetic?
Okay.
Why is that the word that comes to mind?
Because look how he's running the world.
I mean, uh running the world.
Yeah.
He is pretty powerful.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What don't you like about how he's running the world?
Just everything.
The I supposed like basically everything, really.
What's the first word that comes to mind when I say the name Donald Trump?
Oh, the Black Joy Festival is absolutely incredible.
To have so many different That's too many words.
I asked for one word.
Incredible.
I asked for one word that you think of when you hear the name Donald Trump.
Black Joy.
When you hear the name Donald Trump, you think of black joy.
Black toy festival.
Okay.
Black Joy Festival.
Okay.
That's that's what this is.
So when you hear the name Donald Trump, the first word that comes to mind is black joy.
No, that's not what I said.
That's what I asked.
No, that's not what I said.
Okay, because that's what I does.
No, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't.
Alright, what is the word that comes to mind?
Um, I'm not sure, but I'm here to talk to you about organ and tissue donation to save lives.
I don't think so.
I didn't think I'm gonna hear that.
Did you know that if we were to abolish abortion 100% across the board, over a million lives would be saved every year?
You can save eight lives with the donation.
You can save a million by abolishing abortion.
Yeah, a million lives every year.
You could save by abolishing abortion.
That looks delicious.
Where'd you get that?
I got it from over here.
I'm gonna have to stop by that and get some.
What's the first word that comes to mind when you hear the name Donald Trump?
I guess you say a first word.
I can't think about it.
It was indifferent.
So ignorance.
Ignorance.
Yes.
Okay.
Why does that come to mind?
I feel like he doesn't really understand what he's really causing, trouble he's causing.
I think a lot of things are just reactionary.
And because of that, it's just ignoring of the potential of the power he actually understood.
Oh, it's an office.
So he's doing a lot of things that are destroying many people's futures, not just uh minorities' futures.
I think everybody's hurting with some decisions that he's making.
Some people don't fully understand what destruction is being caused, they just voted.
They think all down the line, and that's part of the problem.
Okay.
For my audience's sake, um, what should they be worried about with their future with Donald Trump in office?
I think a lot of the con economics is gonna be uh destroyed.
I mean, for example, farmers, you know, they voted, they thought they were gonna get the tariffs are gonna help them, but it's hurting us.
I feel like he's driving other countries to work more collaboratively against America than them working with America.
Why do you keep doing that?
I mean, if you're gonna do it, I can tell when you're doing it.
Just tell me why you're doing it.
But why who's we?
Who's we?
Because you do keep engaging, you keep interrupting my conversations with people.
And that's weird.
Why are you doing that?
You keep engaging because you're following me and you're telling people not to talk to me.
Why are you doing that?
Do you not like me?
We're not engaging.
Okay.
It's very, I mean, you look like a fool and you look speak with you.
Okay.
Who are you?
And why am I speaking with you?
Um, I was told that the organizer told me you wasn't allowed here, so who's the organizer?
She's somewhere around.
I don't know.
Well, if she wants to talk to me, so you work for the city of Orlando.
What's your name?
Sakino James.
Okay, so you are a government employee.
Yes, ma'am.
Okay.
So am I allowed to be here?
You are allowed, but if the person who rents the park don't want you here, it's I can't.
We can't really have you here.
At this spot, but you could go anywhere else on the park.
I can be in this spot because this is public property.
You're a government employee, and you should know that.
This this spot does not transform into private property just because there's a permit here.
So I wanna know what she said I could talk to you.
I want to know why she keeps interrupting my conversations.
Ma'am, I don't know what's going on.
Okay, well, that was my question.
Otherwise, I have no reason to talk to you.
I'm just asking what's going on, too.
They came to me saying they won't want you here, and now I'm Are they asking you to remove me?
Wow.
Are they asking you to remove me?
This is so strange.
She one person, event staff, Mrs. Event staff.
We've got Mrs. and Mr. Event staff here.
There she is.
They're telling people not to talk to me, interrupting my conversations, and then are you gonna do they want you to remove me, sir?
Do they want you to remove me?
Yes, man, bro.
You're a government employee.
You're gonna take directions and orders from an event staff person.
Why are these people so scared to stand on their word?
Just if you're gonna do this stuff in front of my face, just tell me why you're doing it.
One word.
Um that does seem like what a president would be, right?
Yeah.
Controlling in a good way?
However, you see it.
How do you see it?
All right.
All right.
That's also too many words, but we'll let you slide.
When I hear Donald Trump.
Words can't express.
Just one word.
What I feel.
Okay.
Um why do you say that?
Because he he's not for black joy.
Okay.
He's not for black joy, and uh uh-uh, I'm not happy right now as an American.
As a whole, it's not it's land of the slaves and home.
You know, it it's i it's just it's that's deep.
What's the first word that comes to mind when you hear the name Donald Trump?
Hmm.
Putting me on the spot here.
Yes, I am.
Yes, and like I said, if you don't want to answer, you don't have to.
Uh right away, I think divisive.
Divisive?
Yes.
Okay.
Why would you say that?
Because the policies and just the utterance I'm hearing.
It it's just centered a lot around um separating people instead of getting people to come together.
You know, it's it's a you against us kind of mentality.
That's all you waving at me.
Is everything okay?
We're dancing.
Yeah, but I don't know.
That's what they're doing up there, but we're bringing the dance party out here.
You wanna dance with us?
Come on, I know you can bust the move.
I'm good.
I'll I'm good.
You got this?
So, soldier boy.
If you are a millennial, you definitely know who that is.
He's a Trump supporter, and they're uh they were just playing his music, so maybe we should let them know.
Doing well, how are you?
All right, hey, I just go ahead and put the mic down off.
Can we go up here so I can hear you?
I am recording, so I am gonna record audio with this.
I'll just keep it like a.
Okay, I'll just keep it down here.
I apparently some people are having issues with the questions that they're asking them.
Okay.
So if I just have to specific questions.
Okay.
But if they have uh issues with that or they don't want to talk to you, just try not to follow them around or try it to intimidate or harass them.
All right, because that's the call that we're gonna do.
Are you accusing me of doing that?
No, that's what I said.
We got a call for.
You got a call that I was harassing people.
Yes, ma'am.
Oh, okay.
That's untrue.
Yeah.
Yep.
So, like I said, I'm not telling you to stop doing what you're doing.
I'm telling you, if people don't want to interact with you, go ahead and not interact with them.
Yeah, I don't need to be baby sad.
I know how to act like an adult in social situations.
You guys call the pops on you now?
It's the park called the cops on you.
That's a private event.
No, it's not.
How is this a private event right now?
Listen, we did not call the cops on you.
Okay, someone did.
The organizers called the cops.
We cannot control who did it.
It was not us.
Okay, can you show me who did it?
No.
Why would we?
There's a lot of people who are not going to be able to do it because they got out of the house.
They accused me of harassing somebody, which is a criminal offense.
That was a volunteer told them that.
Because that person felt that way.
They were harassed.
They did not call the police, someone did, and that would have now been asked.
Okay.
Alright, good.
This isn't a private event, by the way.
It's a private in terms of no in terms of we have reserved reserved it.
We know it's a community event.
We're not, we're not.
It's not a private event.
However, it is privately written.
No, it's not.
Okay.
This is a letter from the attorney general.
That's fine.
Talking about First Amendment traditional public forms.
And this is one.
If you want to read it, you can't.
I know I'm there.
You don't have the person in the case.
He did not call the police on you as I said.
Someone who did report harassment, they reported it to the police.
That was not of our concern.
Someone is making false claims to the police.
I'm not harassing anyone.
I cannot control that.
That is that person's experience with your interaction with you.
I have copies of this if you need it.
First word that comes to mind when you hear the name Donald Trump.
What about you?
Um, that's funny.
That some nothing comes to mind immediately.
That may say something in itself.
Yeah.
What uh why would you why would what does that come to mind?
I don't know.
I mean.
What else could come to mind, right?
Like you item, maybe your foot.
I'm speechless, right?
Like some of the policies and some of the decisions.
Most decisions don't make sense.
They make sense for people who got millions and billions of dollars.
They make sense for rich people.
So, what are some examples of him being against black joy or the black community?
Because he does nothing for us.
I mean, he shows it.
Yeah, well, yeah, well, he um he funded HBCUs more than any other president.
Oh, really?
Yep.
He actually had more black people vote for him than any other Republican.
Okay, now are you here for Donald Trump?
I am a Trump supporter.
Okay, that I figured that.
Yeah, so why would you figure that?
Uh because you you're providing me what he has done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would love to learn what he hasn't done from your perspective.
Well, I'm against Trump.
Yeah, that's okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You have any specific examples of where he has harmed the black community?
Uh, not that I really want to go into.
Okay, nope.
Yeah.
Talk to someone here today that is actually black at Black Joy Festival.
That she loves what he's doing with immigration and she thinks it's making our country safer.
Yeah.
What do you think about that?
I agree with her.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I voted for Donald Trump for mass deportation.
Biden let in over 10 million illegal immigrants, and I think that it's about time that they get out of the country.
Well, I don't know what to say about it.
You think we should just let the illegal immigrants that Joe Biden let in just let him live here?
What do we do with them?
I'm not even sure.
Not sure.
All right.
Well, I guess until you figure it out, we'll let Donald Trump do what he's doing.
Yes, ma'am.
Deal?
Yes.
Alright, we got it.
We got a deal.
All right, perfect.
What's the first word that comes to mind when you hear the name Donald Trump?
Exasperation.
That's a good one.
You're a well-educated woman.
Why is that what comes to mind?
I don't know what to do.
I'm just doing little things.
I just don't know what to do.
Okay.
What little things have you been doing?
One little thing I've been doing is talking to people.
I'm with the League of Women Voters.
And I've been talking to people about voting.
Okay.
One little thing.
Okay.
Yeah.
And you're encouraging people not to vote for Donald Trump or I'm guessing anyone after him.
I am not encouraging them not to vote.
I'm encouraging them to vote.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
Even if it's for Donald Trump.
Hey, I can't, you know, I can't make up their minds.
Okay.
All I can do is talk about why we would vote.
So let's talk about the terrorist.
Right?
Um, I'm not really uh economist, yeah, but I do know that if you're charging, if you're tasking taxing our friends, right?
It's like a war.
It's like, why are you starting war?
Why are you starting an economic war?
Why?
What what purpose does it serve?
And then like, I just feel like he's a bully.
Is he bullying?
Um who isn't he bullying?
I don't feel bullied.
You don't feel bullied?
Well, should I feel bullied?
Do you feel bullied?
I don't, but should I?
Well, I'm not sure.
I mean, you're very bullied.
I do.
Okay.
I do, not personally, but people that look like me and people that come from communities that aren't privileged.
You know what I mean?
It's like, and the things he say, the way he treats, you know, the things he say about people.
Um, I don't know.
Like what?
I'm sorry.
Like what?
So in recent times, I can't think of anything, but calling people stupid.
Like calling people stupid.
Some people are stupid.
You just call it him.
Are you bullying Donald Trump?
I I don't have enough money to bully Donald Trump.
Let's let's keep it real.
Let's keep it real.
He doesn't feel bullied, right?
Like, quite frankly, there are some things that I feel like I could get on with, but the approach, right?
I always feel like whenever I'm hearing listening to him or hearing him talk, it's really hard to hear um how this would make sense because a lot of times it sounds like hate and it sounds like just strong arm it.
I know you said disbelief when talking about Trump.
Were you at all in disbelief that Joe Biden got 70 million votes?
That he got 70 million votes?
No, I'm not because uh I think I think that uh disfamiliarity without change, you know, people avert the change.
Yeah.
He got more votes than Obama did.
Yeah, he did, but I believe also that was a coattails of that.
I believe that he benefited from the Obama administration.
All right.
Last question: has Trump done anything good?
You know, I'm still undecided.
Uh, you know, with the tariffs, uh, I know his whole thing is about making uh America great again.
So there we have lost some power in how the administration, not even the past administration leading up to it.
Not I mean, I'm only I can talk about Reagan administration.
I go back that far.
So I think that over the course of time, we've probably gotten away from our values.
So I can see that he's trying to do some of that, but do I agree to the extent or how he's doing it?
Jury's still out.
Why is that the first reaction you have when you hear his name?
Um I think that he incites a lot of fear in people and uh spreads a lot of misinformation.
Okay, and I don't appreciate that.
I am very I like to think I'm very politically active and I'm also in the sciences, so I really am passionate about people being well informed.
Okay.
My my audience, uh, they're Trump supporters, I'm a Trump supporter.
Would you give me some information that you think me and my audience might be misinformed about?
Um I don't know.
He kind of just comes across as sort of like a very sometimes very aggressive and unkind, and I just that's not like part of my values.
Right.
But you said he spreads misinformation.
If I have been consuming misinformation, I would love for you to maybe give me, you know, the the highest priority misinformation that I've been consuming, my audience has been consuming.
If you want to let me know, maybe a little bit of information that I could correct myself.
Sure, and I could, but it's just like not a conversation I really want to have right now.
I love it.
I think he's funny, think he's hilarious, I think he's bold, yeah.
You never know.
You never have a question about what he believes in.
Um, but you know, for me, I never.
What does he believe in?
What?
What does he believe in?
Well, I'm saying like what he thinks about a situation or someone, you never have to guess.
But we always Say, like fundamentally, like what do he believe in?
Like, what do we value?
I think he believes in America first.
Okay, and what does that mean?
Putting America first, getting criminal aliens and people who came into this country illegally out of it.
Yeah, putting our American citizens first and stop funding so many things overseas, which you know, Israel can be talked about there.
But I truly believe that he loves this country, and I think that he is doing what he thinks is needs to happen in order to secure us economically, physically, and military wise.
What are your thoughts about?
I know, right?
All right, my wife is calling me.
I'm sorry.
All right, yeah.
Yeah, you too.
Bye.
I do want to give a shout out to the security officers and the police officer that I talked to for respecting my First Amendment right to be here.
So refreshing to be able to come here and to a public space, even though there is an event going on and engage in my First Amendment rights.
So thank you very much.
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