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Progressive Values and Pro-Life Consistency
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| I identify very liberal. | |
| I am also a socialist. | |
| I live in San Francisco. | |
| I am also the founder and executive director of Pro-Life San Francisco. | |
| We're seeing increasingly there's more young people who are holding more progressive values but are also very pro-life because we can see that's inconsistent to say we support equality of all human beings, we support human rights for all except for the pre-born human beings. | |
| You're an atheist, vegan, LGBTQ plus ally, and pro-life. | |
| That's right. | |
| Explain this to me. | |
| I did not read that last part. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That threw me off. | |
| Yeah, that's why I have this 22-week old fetal model. | |
| I am a registered Democrat. | |
| I identify very liberal. | |
| I am also a socialist. | |
| I live in San Francisco. | |
| I am also the founder and executive director of Pro-Life San Francisco. | |
| We are a millennial-led grassroots activist organization operating in arguably the most pro-choice culture in America, possibly in the world. | |
| And one of the reasons that we're here today is I'm joining with Democrats for Life and we're calling on them to take a position on abortion that represents the majority. | |
| Even the vast majority of millennials and Democrats want to see abortion more restricted, especially at this particular age. | |
| I'm so sorry. | |
| I'm so sorry. | |
| I don't want people to run it. | |
| I'm so sorry. | |
| But the vast majority of them want to see abortion restricted, especially at this age. | |
| This is a 22-week fetus, so in most states in America, you can have an elective abortion for any reason you want, up until 24 weeks. | |
| And this is the exact age that's actually targeted for organ harvesting by fetal tissue companies that are looking to profit off of the sale of these body parts. | |
| So I'm very concerned. | |
| Obviously, this is a viewpoint that's very silenced on the left. | |
| I think it's very dangerous on the left because they hold all their power through the abortion lobby, which only Panderson is. | |
| I want to cut you off because I want to ask you this question. | |
| When I talk about being pro-life, 100% of the time people say, well, it's because you're trying to shove your opinions of religion down my throat. | |
| What do you say to that? | |
| What does it mean to be such polar opposites within the community, I guess? | |
| Totally. | |
| And I can see why people think that it's contradictory, but for me, it's just a consistent application of the values that we've already established as a culture, as a society, from across the political and religious spectrum. | |
| It doesn't matter if you're secular or you're Hindu. | |
| Most people agree that killing people is wrong in most circumstances. | |
| And I'm just attempting to be consistent in that application. | |
| Yes, of course, there are circumstances when it's just to protect yourself. | |
| Or there are, of course, nuanced conversations about killing a born person. | |
| But the point is that it has to be consistent if we're all equal. | |
| And I do believe in human equality. | |
| I love it. | |
| I love it. | |
| It's perfect. | |
| Thank you. | |
| You said you were a pro-life Democrat. | |
| And I asked you, I said, usually when Democrats say I'm pro-life, they just mean they cut it off at the third trimester. | |
| But you said, no, I'm pro-life all the way. | |
| What's it like being a pro-life Democrat? | |
| Yeah, it's definitely hard, but we're seeing increasingly there's more young people who are holding more progressive values but are also very pro-life because we can see that's inconsistent to say we support equality of all human beings, we support human rights for all except for the pre-born human beings. | |
| It's the consistent response to say we're against abortion for all cases through all the pregnancy. | |
| So a lot of people say something a lot that I've seen in the news lately and what people say is what if the child had a mental disability or a physical abnormality, they shouldn't be able to live or the mother shouldn't have to take care of them. | |
| How does that make your heart feel? | |
| Oh, it's absolutely heartbreaking. | |
| When somebody presents that to us, like for me, I've been doing this full time a couple years and I go to college campuses nationwide talking to students about this. | |
| Whenever somebody comes up and says, you know, it should be okay if, you know, there's a severe abnormality. | |
| Yeah, it's heartbreaking because you would never, ever, ever consider ending somebody's life, you know, who was born, who had, you know, whatever abnormality. | |
| Yes, it's hard. | |
| Yes, it's unfair. | |
| It can be unfair, but we don't have that right to take away somebody else's life because of who they are. | |
| That's ableism, you know? | |
| And again, with the Democratic Party carrying the banner of equality, there's no reason why we should be supporting that. | |
| So I have to ask, why do you still stay with the Democratic Party, even though they're progressively getting crazier with their pro-choice views? | |
| What keeps you in the Democratic Party? | |
| Well, I lean more independent for that reason because for me, the main issue is abortion. | |
| I think that there's, you know, both sides are working to make great progress on various issues. | |
| But at the end of the day, for me, you know, I want to see human rights advanced. | |
| I want to see, you know, whatever side is their goal is to advance human rights, equal dignity, and respect for all, like, I think that we need to be pushing for that. | |
| So with the Democratic Party, they do a good job with that in most cases. | |
| So that's the appeal I see there, is that they are actually, you know, working towards, you know, supporting the disenfranchised and helping make those ends meet. | |
| They just have to tweak one little thing. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So it's just, I want to see them be consistent in that view. | |
| So until then, I am an independent until I see that change be made. | |
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