As you can see from this amazing cover, this edition's theme is heroism, power and modernity.
And the articles in there, which I have to say are rather good, don't you know?
And I'm not just talking about mine, I'm talking about all of them.
They discuss what the heroic society is and why modernity is destroying it, but why the spirit of the hero is looming throughout everything that's happening.
And again, I say the cover goes hard, right?
Because, I mean, look at it.
You would think that this was tailored for the current events, but no, we're always ahead of the curve.
Anyway, it's thicker than normal as well because we just happen to have a load of extra content in there.
We've got an exclusive interview from Rupert Lowe, let's from the editor, and a comic that's halfway through that's philosophically informed, which I think you'll enjoy.
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Hi folks, welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Cedars for Friday the 9th of January.
We are without internet today for some reason.
Administrative errors perhaps at the BT Exchange.
But either way, I'm joined by Nick and Stella.
We're going to do is pre-record this and that later.
So you'll get it whenever you get it.
At least it proves everything you've been saying about decline for years.
This is what we're talking about, guys.
It's also good to not be always online and be offline every now and then.
Like chilling, you're like detaching.
You're like, this is us, like, what's it called?
You're like, off-grid.
We're going off-grid, yeah.
On meditation, I have my notes.
You can't take them down.
I'm not sure when we're meant to be doing the podcast is the best time to be touching grass.
Maybe, maybe.
Anyway, today we're talking about minorities for remigration, reforms, totally based Mayor of London candidate.
And how would you describe yours?
They hired the devil.
The fact that the British police would choose to hire Satan himself over a white man.
So, without further ado, let's begin.
So, there's an interesting phenomenon that I've noticed, which is what I'm going to call minorities for remigration.
Does this make sense to me?
Great group.
Well, I mean, do you want the fun answer or the serious answer?
You can give me one, then the other.
Well, I think it can make sense because when we are looking at the world in terms of ethnic identities, you have ethnic identities being very much against other identities.
And yeah, they just may be pro-re-migration if they think that it doesn't cover them or if they think that they hate another kind of group more than they love their own group.
I just like to think they're being so logically consistent that you're like, yeah, but that's going to get you.
And they're like, I accept it.
You know, I understand.
This is about right and wrong.
Yeah, I think it's very honorable.
Don't you think?
I agree.
But it's not just remigration either, but it's the understanding, actually, there is a reason that everyone's trying to move to the West, right?
And it's because the native peoples of the countries produce a certain kind of country.
And actually, if you switch those people out with other people who come from different countries that don't run the same way as this country, actually, you're probably going to get a different result.
And you might not like that result.
It's always one of the many contradictions, isn't it, at the left, that, like, this is the worst place ever, the left's evil.
The left?
So the West is evil.
Yeah, everyone's trying to move here.
Well, right, then.
The left is evil, but we've got to have open borders to bring everyone into this absolute hellhole.
And they should be allowed to come.
And if you stop them, you're evil, coming to this hellhole where we're all racist.
There was even a girl the other day, you probably saw online, one of those sort of Palestine white girls saying, can't wait for the fall of the West.
It's like, do you know what's going to happen to you when the West falls?
It's going to be so ugly and horrific.
Nick's like, this is a threat.
Well, somehow we have to protect you from your own idiocy.
And some people said, oh, let her be destroyed.
Like, we have to basically the white liberal, I hate to say it, but the white lefty wing, we have to sort of protect them from themselves somehow.
It's also that Western culture is like Schrodinger's culture, it doesn't exist, but it's also really bad.
But also, they genuinely treat, oh, you can't deport him.
Well, he's not being deported into hell itself.
He's deported to the country that he was born and raised in, that all his family lives in.
That he's trying to bring here.
Yeah, that he with the language he speaks, with the only people he speaks to.
It's not that he's being deported into the sun or something.
It's not a death sentence.
Anyway, we're going to watch some videos on this.
So, actually, that could be a policy.
Just saying.
Before we begin, though, Islander 5 is out.
Look at this cover.
Look at this incredible cover.
Isn't this just the most hard cover you've ever seen?
Especially.
Is that Trump?
It is Trump.
That's amazing.
Well, right?
Because, of course, we designed this before Maduro just got blackbagged and kidnapped and paraded through the streets.
So it was just like, oh, wow, okay.
But this edition is about heroism and the nature of heroism, power, and the modern world.
It's got over a dozen superb articles in it, written by myself, Morgoth Review, Academic Agent, and a bunch of other brilliant people.
So you've got lefties in there as well.
I do.
Yeah, well, you know, we're not just partisan here.
But Morgoth's one is particularly good.
I was just blown away by it.
But they're all excellent.
My one especially is particularly good.
But there's also loads of other stuff, like an interview with Rupert Lowe, Let's to the Editor page now that Raury's introduced.
And he's also got a mini comic book in the middle of it, which is actually really great.
So it's...
Sorry, I didn't want to show it.
I just love that you're bringing back letters.
Sir, I'd like to correct one thing in your issue of March.
That's literally the point, you know?
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Anyway, let's move on to opinions that we don't necessarily endorse, right?
Because you've got to remember, we are not saying these things.
These are things that other people have said and put on the internet.
And we're going to just let them explain their opinion and then we're going to call them racist.
So Pierce Morgan and Tucker Carlson were having a conversation about how basically the white population is going extinct in England, right?
And Pierce Morgan was basically sitting there and being like, you know what?
I really got a real big deal with that.
You know, I like my Indian restaurants and shit, my Tika Masala.
You know, I'm fucking with that.
And in fact, I would replace a lot of white people with a lot of foreigners coming in.
And I'm sitting there thinking to myself, see, this is what Pierce Morgan and a lot of niggas don't really understand.
Whiteness and the West go hand in hand.
Whiteness and exploration go hand in hand.
Whiteness and philosophy go hand in hand.
Whiteness and democracy goes fucking hand in hand.
What does this mean?
If white people are gone, the West is gone.
All the things that has made the West great has come from white people.
That's just the fucking truth.
So if all these niggas are gone and you have the entire third world, Muhammad, Omar, all these niggas come into your country and all the white people are now fucking gone, the third world just becomes the third world again.
These niggas are coming to the West because the West is great.
The West was created by white people.
If the white people are fucking gone, then the West is not going to be great anymore.
This is where you're just going to get the constant authoritarianism, the tyranny, and all the bullshit that you were trying to escape from because the white people are fucking gone.
That's why we actually needed the wiggers.
If the wiggers are gone, the elections are fucking gone.
I'm going to be sitting here with all you dumb niggas because y'all aren't thinking about space.
You guys aren't thinking about inventing anything or having democracy or any of these high levels of fucking thought.
I'm going to be like, hey, y'all, we need a fucking election.
Y'all can be like, nah, fuck that.
War.
Let's just kill niggas because that's what it's like.
So white people getting replaced is actually a horrible thing for the West completely.
So I'd never, I didn't know there was such a thing, such a genre, as Faustian Black Men.
But brilliant, that's great.
I'm very interested in what he has to say there.
You all aren't thinking about space.
One of the funniest.
What do you make of that, Celios?
Just funny video?
Yeah, I mean we've, we've uh, discussed several times how culture influences civilization and how, you know, within you require a particular culture.
Yeah, but the culture manifests in behavior and practices and customs.
Yeah, but the culture comes from the people.
Right, that's what he's saying.
Culture comes from the people.
And if you look at the culture that these guys have come from, you can make a character judgment about the kind of people that they are.
And if you were to just exchange them with all of these polite people who get up early in the morning, go to work, you know clock in, do overtime, punch out and do exactly the right thing and and make a country good he's, he's like, oh right, now I can see a predictable outcome there.
Well yeah, I mean, if you, if you mass import people from a particular culture and you make them live in an in a different culture, and they don't want to assimilate and they're told to not assimilate, then it then yeah, they won't assimilate.
And I just weird that we have to rely on a you know black guy to just state these simple truths that Piers Morgan can't do like.
I'd rather a curry, I don't, I don't care about white, but and then you have to have this.
One might be the difference, you racist.
It's so weird, it's so pathetic that Morgan's I mean that was, that was one of Morgan's worst moments, one of many.
And then this guy just has to tell the truth.
But that's another kind of privilege, he can tell the truth and the white guy is not allowed to.
Yeah, because you're a racist.
Yeah, and you're cancelled anyway.
Moving on to the next one because, like I said, this is, this is basically like a genre that i've discovered and this, this is just again that it it's becoming apparent even to the minorities that well, hang on a second, we do kind of want the the, the European populations of European or European colonized countries, to be the ones in charge, because they make everything run right and actually, if we bring in a bunch of people.
And another aspect is, there's a certain kind of moral obligation that Europeans have to ethnic minorities that they don't have to one another right, it's like if, if all of the country is replaced with you know whatever, wherever uh do, they care about the plight of the aboriginals, right?
Well, that's, that's the problem.
Isn't because all the stats show that all groups have a rather aggressive in-group preference except, for some reason, white Europeans yeah, and so yeah, if you get a lot of people aggressively promoting their in-group, that's not going to help other other groups.
And if, if you're say, an aboriginal Australian who understands that uh, the white dominated society of Australia is giving you money and benefits or just giving you a special place in the parliament or whatever it is well, that might not actually be inherited by the new groups that take over the country.
Well, you don't see yeah, I mean yeah personally I, I see this deviating both ways, because what Nick said I think is really correct is that you don't see the level of out-group preference in other groups.
No, and uh, this in lots of uh, white people, it manifests in self-destructiveness and leftism and, speaking in cultural terms, I wouldn't necessarily describe leftism as better than some other cultures.
No, it doesn't.
Yeah, but you understand what I mean.
Yeah, but uh, but anyway this, this came across my timeline and I was genuinely howling uh by the end of it.
So she waffles a bit for the first minute or so, but we'll watch from here.
Because you want to sympathize with some Palestinians and then you got to cheat to go and use them as Muslims and say they're chameleons people, you get lost, them chameleons.
And mine is, stay away, Palestine.
You stay away.
I don't care who you soverendry black people are.
You will not.
You will not destroy Australia.
You want to stick up with them.
White Australia policy now.
Right now.
No more brown people in this country coming in.
No more Muslims coming in either.
What?
White Australia policy right now.
Right now.
Don't you think that's it?
It's just saying right or white.
I don't understand.
No, it's good.
It's a good slogan.
White now.
Don't you fucking think you're going to fuck this up for Australia.
So.
Well, it's just well-argued.
Compelling.
Strong rhetoric.
How could you disagree, Stellios?
I know why now.
Right now, right now.
But I like the anger and the energy.
I appreciate the energy.
Aboriginal woman, I don't want any browns in my country.
You're not going to take Australia down Australia with a white man.
Yeah, and you're not effing this up very much like you said.
Like, I've got a good thing here.
It's not effing this up.
Well, exactly.
Better now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She understands.
Actually, no, we've got a good thing going here.
What are you doing?
You know, what am I about?
She continues.
My train wasn't on time.
It also reminds you, of course, of the Indigenous people's argument.
I know this is obvious to people here, but it's like white Europeans are the only one that's like, oh, and English people are specifically, however specific you want to get.
It's like, we're Indigenous.
Like, oh, no, you're not.
Everyone else is Indigenous.
You're not.
Oh, so it is just about hatred.
Then there's no consistency.
It's just blind hatred.
The UN literally defines indigenous as meaning non-European, because basically, if you have a state, you can't be Indigenous.
And so when you've got, like, you, you can get the UN map of where the indigenous peoples are.
And Europe is all just great because as far as they're concerned, there are no Indigenous people in Europe.
And of course, it's an obvious point that the arrogance of it suggests like where the sort of normal, everyone's else is the indigenous.
We couldn't possibly be indigenous because that would be to sort of see ourselves through a different lens.
But actually, our position is more humble.
Like, no, we are Indigenous like anyone else.
We weren't created by Yakub.
They're sort of delivered from ours or whatever.
Right, right.
Yeah, they're Yakuza.
It's like the map that puts Britain big or whatever, you know, isn't the real map.
Like, they see us as the center.
Everyone else is, oh, they're the little indigenous people.
Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
But some Aboriginals are getting the idea through.
I love that it's the predator meme, you know, the predator handshake.
You know, it's like, you know, in Aboriginals, whites hating immigrants.
Still not working.
So here, here is a Pakistani woman in Britain called Ludna who has decided, I support Steve Laws.
I saw this, yeah.
Total remigration now.
I think we'll just watch a little bit of it.
Like what I see in terms of their behaviours anyway, but I learned, but I appreciate that I'm not ethnically British.
Having said that, I completely and utterly support a lot of what Steve Laws actually said.
Believe it or not, I don't know what he said outside of this interview.
If he's made some racist tweets or if he said horrible stuff, I'm not aware of that.
I'm speaking just about his interview with Andrew Gold.
He made a lot of sense with all due respect, guys.
I know a lot of you guys are criticizing him, but I do feel English people, okay, they need to be preserved.
They need to be the majority in their country, right?
Now, if you are an ethnic minority, be you a Muslim or Hindu or even Jewish person who's been here for 100 years, with all due respect, guys, you are not ethnically British.
Ethnically British people need to be preserved in their country in their homeland.
This is their homeland.
I genuinely believe that.
And I feel like we need to put things in place to preserve the majority, like the percentage of people in this country.
And currently, we don't have that.
And sadly, there are a lot of people that are feeling threatened rightly.
So, so the second thing I feel is, and this came up on my channel before when I said, oh, this is a white country.
And some of the ethnic minorities were challenging me and saying, This is so crazy that you think that this is a white country.
And I'm like, what the hell?
I think it's crazy that you think that it's not.
And that really triggered me.
So I strongly believe it is not for the ethnic minorities to determine what the ethnically British people should do in their country.
It is not for me to tell the English people how they should run their country.
For example, you know what?
I think reform are going to put her in charge.
It's like Steve Law's least likely fan.
Like, he's like, right, you're all going back.
She's like, thank you.
This is what I've been saying.
Thank you, Steve.
Finally.
Everyone's like, Steve, I'll leave today.
Steve, you've been too hardlined.
It's not persuasive.
And she's like, well, hear him out.
What I love about this, though, is it kind of sounds like the ethnic minority is going to put us on like a white European plantation and be like, right, yeah, no, no, you need your country because we want you to run it, right?
So you've got the like little white European plantation, and then we're going to just, you know, stand back and collect benefits.
I don't know.
I've always thought we will end up.
I mean, it's since seeing Callum's documentary, to be honest, I got the idea we're going to end up on a reservation, like rural reservations in England with no money, just this kind of despised, like you know, like they did with the American Indians.
Yeah.
Because that just seems to be the way it's going.
But who knows?
We might, we might rally.
I'm not, I'm not being a doomer.
Well, it depends if Lubna's going to take over.
Exactly.
That's what we need.
Yeah, I shouldn't watch Callum's documentary, it's too depressing.
But the point is, yeah, I agree.
But that's the weird thing, isn't it?
It's like we need to, they still want us to run the world, but they want us to sort of want us to just sort of get back on your reservations.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, she seems to be in favor of us being the majority population.
Yeah, no, Lubna, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you know, so I just find it just to be a fascinating thing to watch this playing out in essentially real time because these videos keep coming past my timeline where it's some minority going, no, listen, I'm here to defend the white race.
Yeah, that's what's over the degrees of it.
There's the Sweller Brahmin degree where she's like, well, actually, I'm not really English and, you know, I love this country.
Then there's this is the more extreme degree.
There's a range of sort of non-white.
Looks like Swella's too soft.
She needs to be deported.
So, anyway, this is just very, very interesting.
And there's for some reason, I wanted to tie this together with this Tim Stanley tweet because this I found really fascinating, right?
Where he's like, inevitable anti-Muslim hate being thrown at Laylia Lalia Cunningham.
Layla Cunningham.
But she reinforces my view that Britain is most likely to be dragged back to social conservative sanity by immigrants and the children of immigrants, Mahmood, Kemi, etc.
It's the natives what blew their inheritance.
Well, I've also got this tweet in my section because it's so bad.
It's one of the all-time.
It's like, I see it's like anti-bangers.
It's like, hang on, Fraser Nelson, you know, hold my beer sort of thing.
It's like, I can do the worst gaslighting nonsense.
I mean, Tim, like, to be fair, I was listening to the Telegraph podcast today to listen to Layla Cunningham.
He's perfectly presentable, good presenter, perfectly nice.
I'm sure he's a perfectly nice guy, but he posts the worst cult.
I mean, Shabana Mahmood is going to is like dragging us back to conservative sanity.
Shabana Mahmood is the most anti-immigration home secretary we've had in like 30 years.
Yes, that's a pretty low bar, isn't it?
I know, but Vet Cooper was the last one.
I know.
But she was way better than Pretty Patel, way better than Swella Braveman.
You know, she's actually got things done.
Has she done anything, or is she just going to change it to like safe roots and change the wording?
No, no, no.
She has got some stuff done.
But this is the point.
He's making something.
Yeah, they kind of are.
So, like, it's going to be essentially, like, I want Luba and Shabana Mahmoud to sit down and have a conversation about how they preserve the white race.
If Tim meant Lubno, but I just, I'm not quite sure he did.
I'm sure he doesn't know about it.
He means Kemi, as he's saying.
Yeah, yeah.
And he's, oh, my God.
You'll probably find his.
I'm sure I saw people posting his Kemi Bade noctakes.
Because there we go.
Mummy.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Mummy won.
They're also posh.
Well, it's so embarrassing.
Yeah.
There's a class element.
Do you know what you watch like the Telegraph and Spectator things?
I watch them to keep up with stuff.
They're just all posh.
They're all called Poppy.
And one of the great things about Lotus is not to blow smoke is that actually this is where people like me have been to comprehensive schools are allowed on things.
The class system lives.
It's like this weird centre.
Oh, we're all centre-right and we're all called poppy and we all went to public school.
It's like.
Thankfully my Yoruba mammy is going to save us.
And it's like, sorry, Tim, this is cringe and we.
Why nearly call her mummy?
Because he's an embarrassing posh conservative and they have really weird issues with women and especially foreign women.
They love to have like an oppressive female presence in their life.
It's really weird.
I don't get it.
No one gets it.
No one who's been to a state school gets it.
Yeah, exactly, yeah, but then, you know, no one who's, I'm not going to say any more on that.
Yeah, I went to state schools as well.
You know, I came out normal.
Anyway, the point being is that in a way, it looks like Tim Stanley's kind of correct that actually the minorities are radicalizing themselves because of demographic change in our countries.
And they're like, well, hang on a second.
Well, yeah, I mean, you could say it's correct given some of the videos we've looked at, but you feel like one feels he means it in the kind of sieve nat, annoying way.
And I think, of course, you did a tweet about how, well, actually, it's just that white people were kept out of everything.
Yeah, it's the natives what blew their inheritance.
You mean you were part of a machine that destroyed everyone to your right who was like, guys, maybe we need to be a bit more nativist about these things.
Yeah, DBI kept them out of everything.
And not just that, but like, how many people have been blacklisted from the BBC because they said something vaguely right-wing?
Like, you never see anyone, you know, I mean, what's he wrote for the Telegraph?
Who does he get on from the right on the Telegraph?
Well, this is what I said.
I mean, as I say, perfectly nice guy, but he interviewed Ash Saka, and it was just a gushing interview.
Meanwhile, everything.
Yeah, of course.
Meanwhile, he constantly signals against Rupert Lowe.
I was listening today, Camilla, I like Camilla, but she described, she said, she talked to Layla Cunningham.
She said, and she made a reference to those extreme right people like Rupert Lowe and Ben Habib.
So they're the extreme right, but like, but Tim, basically the Telegraph's Overton window is communist to wet Tory.
Yes.
And anything to the right of that is far out.
Communist to Tim Stanley.
Why are you having a gushing conversation with a literal communist who admits she is?
That's weird.
You're the Telegraph.
But the point being, though, even Tim Stanley can see it.
It's like, wow, the immigrants are like, we need to look out for these white guys, you know, because things aren't going great.
And I just found that really interesting.
That the nature of the problem is so manifestly obvious, right?
It's everywhere.
It's in everyone's faces.
The fact that the demographics in our countries have changed against our will, and we are starting to see a decline to the point where minorities themselves are like, guys, we need to stop this.
If he means that white liberals, I include Tories, have been too wet and naive and pathetic and self-hating, then he's correct.
I mean, you can go all the way back.
I mean, you read about Enoch Powell in 1948 with the British Nationalities Act, and he's worried about it.
But this kind of patrician posh Tories are like, oh, no, we need to welcome the world.
We've had colonialism, you know, and it's very naive even back then.
Tim Stanley is the scion of that wet libtard Toryism.
Yes, it's ironic that he's saying it because...
Oh, you guys blew it.
Well, you guys destroyed them.
What do you want?
Anyway, we'll leave that there.
Like I said, I just think this is a very funny thing to see.
Okay.
Oh, is that your whole bit?
Okay.
Yeah, what was the fourth link?
Oh, I didn't want to include it.
Okay, yeah.
All right.
Yes.
Okay, so we're non-live, so you caught me off guard.
But yes, I thought we'd do reforms totally based female Muslim candidate who's going to just do base stuff and save London, which is Layla Cunningham.
Now, quick disclaimer.
I did watch the Telegraph podcast on my way here, and I suddenly thought this segment I've done is very harsh to Layla.
So I want to just give some balance to say she does seem like she's a likable person, like she's like a high energy.
She gets things, and she might do something on Law and Order because her kids have been constantly mugged in London.
Just constant muggings.
Yeah, yeah.
Just constant muggings.
But I've been reliably informed that it's the lowest crime ever.
Oh, by Fraser.
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, by Jason Nelson.
Yeah.
It's extraordinary.
She's like, yeah, and then they're getting targeted at school.
And then she like, she had in one of them.
She had the mugger there.
She like gets him.
He runs away into the basement of McDonald's.
She's calling him up saying, I've literally know where he is.
Get him down.
And they're like, well, we've got another kid who's been stabbed, so he takes priority.
And she's like, have you not got two police officers?
can you not send someone and it was just no exactly You have to police non-crime.
Right.
And they made her feel guilty.
Oh, do you not care more about the person who's been stabbed?
It's like, can you send the police?
The mugger is here.
And it made me like so angry.
So, disclaimer, maybe she'll do something on Law and Order.
And just to be clear, I see a lot of people going hard on her.
And I'm not saying they're wrong to go hard or anything like that.
But she seems quite intelligent and quite able to handle herself in interviews as well.
So, you know, she seems like actually, I can see why Farage is like, oh, she's a good pick.
Yeah, you know, she's got qualities.
My critique has often been though watching her that she sort of, her eyes start around and she thinks, oh, what's my talking point on that?
To some degree, that is just the nature of a debate.
But I do feel that these are not deeply held beliefs for her.
A lot of the time, she's thinking, what's the thing we say on that?
Though some of them are.
When it comes to law and order and her kids, that's deeply held.
And that's maybe why she was more compelling on that.
Other times, I think she's just saying.
I think that's the most important, though, in her position, if she gets the position of mayor.
I think that's one of the most important things that you need in London.
And also, scrap the EULA's law.
What's her position on the EULA's law?
She's probably against it.
If she's against it.
I love how this follows on from what I've just been talking about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So yes, Egyptian woman's like, no, I need to fix this country.
Yeah, but my segment is fairly harsh.
So I just want to put that disclaimer because I felt bad after listening to the podcast.
I'm a nice guy.
Felt bad after the podcast.
But anyway, Farage unveils London Royal candidate take on Khan.
There she is.
And Dan Wooden, immediately not a fan.
He says, how is the mainstream?
I wanted to devoice.
How is the mainstream right not getting this?
Reform UK have capitulated to Islamists, picking the Muslim Leila Cunningham to battle Sadiq Khan to become mayor of London.
It's deeply depressing.
Nigel Farage rejected going with a true patriot in Ant Milton who has my support.
So he's going with that.
I did a segment on Ant a while back and it was funny, all his tweets, but there's no way he was going to be a reform candidate after all his tweets.
It would be great, but he's way too base.
I like Ant a lot and he's very big.
He was co-hosting.
Yeah, there was a time when he was at the reform conference doing a speech, and he's like, oh, yeah.
But then he started sort of telling too much truth.
So yeah, no, it'd be great if Ant did it.
I mean, it would.
If you can be in the SPS, you can run London.
But Dan wanted that, but she wasn't so keen on that.
So she responded on the Harry Cole show, Let's Have a Listen.
You're talking about putting people into silos and boxes.
You are a Muslim.
On the right, there's been a bit of a brouhaha since you're being announced as a candidate today.
I'm not talking about within reform, but the people even further to the right in British politics.
Lawrence Fox, for example, is whitering on about your cancer saying it's selling out.
Dan Wooden has suggested that you're somehow some sort of possibly, quote, possibly an Islamist and reform of squadrons.
Capitulated.
Capitulated.
That's the word.
So Islamists.
What's your response to that?
And when they're not the right, they're the far right.
And I don't even think they're far right.
They're just, you know, the thing is.
I don't see myself as a British Muslim, a British Egyptian.
I see myself as a British person.
That's it.
And whether you're Muslim, Hindu, Catholic, gay, trans, you know, we need a mayor that is there for everyone equally, not some select.
What do you think they're talking about?
Just a quick pause here.
What show is she on?
Harry Cole's show that he does.
He's Harry Cole.
He's from the Sun, I believe.
And he does a show now from, I think it's from America.
Oh, it is from Saving the West.
Because Harry Cole saves the West.
But it's also saves as an American flag.
So it's like, I mean, is he in America?
Does she go out there?
He can't be in America there because she wasn't America, but it focuses on American stuff.
Sometimes in America, I think.
Or he talks about America anyway.
So yeah, he's a identity confused show.
He's a long-established journalist, but yeah.
But he went with the sort of sieve that line and the.
We really need to watch more.
That gets most of it.
I mean, calling people far right, you've immediately put yourself in the kind of...
And Wooten's not fun.
No, of course he's not.
And then that thing she said at the end, whether you're trans, whether you're that weird listed, did you hear that?
He's like, she just listed, we're here for everyone.
It was a bit like, oh, you're just a normal lefty lib, whatever.
Yeah, so I don't think it was great from her there.
And I'm obviously.
And also, here's a little tip: don't make an enemy of Dan Wooden.
That's just like a creative in general because Dan's got a lot of energy.
And he'll do show number 16 on Layla.
Just want to say about that.
Look at his coverage of Meghan Markle, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't be wrong.
I agree with that, actually.
That sounds great, but I'm just saying, do not mess with her.
You know what?
Just a quick thing.
I was always a bit skeptical of Dan just when he left GB News.
So I'm like, okay, he's just a mainstream guy, right?
But I've noticed that he does land on the based side of every issue.
And so it's just, oh, right.
So his instincts are good, you know, whether you like him or not, personally.
His instincts are really good.
Yeah, yeah, he's often more based than he sort of needs to be.
He was pro-Rupert Lowe.
He's been critical of reform when they've been wet.
I mean, pro-everyone.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm getting confused.
Oh, that's the same one.
Okay.
So Dan didn't like being called far-right, but Leila quite reasonably.
And James Esses points out, so there was that thing she said at the end about the trans thing, which he just plays then again.
But there's also this.
She was at Pride not very long ago in 2022.
Yeah.
So I marched with Pride today, equal rights for all all over the world.
She's like, all right, Leila, it doesn't seem that based.
And he says, my concern with Leila Cullingham is that she's been out marching at Pride as an elected representative and just yesterday listed trans people as a cohort she wants to be there for.
I hope that being there for doesn't extend to puberty blockers and men and women's spaces.
I mean, it probably doesn't, but she just saying stuff.
And some of it's kind of woke.
Some of it's kind of all over the map.
But I mean, if I were reform, I'd be like, look, trans people are like, what, less than 1% of the population?
And J.K. Rowling fans are going to be like 30 or 40% of the population.
Which constituency can we afford to lose?
Well, the good and bad thing about Leila is that she's a little bit off-message.
She says stuff you're thinking that's not reformless policy.
Right.
And she just goes off on one.
So whether that's reform policy, we don't really know.
She can always rephrase in the future if there is a danger of losing the JK Rowling fans and say people think themselves trans will do something of the sort.
Yeah, it was just a weird thing to suddenly be calling people far right and going.
Patrols and women's bathrooms.
She just sounded like any leftist suddenly.
So it was strange.
And then back, whenever this was, back when she was called Leila Dupuy, whenever that was, she did posted this weird moronic woke sort of poem thing.
I am all this list of things.
I am gay, I'm free, I'm Hindu, I'm Jewish.
I'm unique.
I am diverse.
I am London.
You're like, oh, kill me now.
It's just all, you know, one of those.
It's like the black square post.
Ironically, Egyptian isn't on that, is it?
That's weird.
Isn't that odd?
Oops.
That was me.
Yeah, weirdly, Egyptian actually isn't on that.
Hmm.
Not an option, you can be.
Is she Nepalese?
It's funny.
Yeah, the one thing she is, she didn't list.
That's hilarious.
Okay, and.
That she's London.
She's London.
Back here.
Now, I used to do comedy, so nothing against this, but just for some more background, she used to try and do acting.
And Wolf is saying she's landed herself a big acting role.
That's unfair.
Pronouns there is my only problem.
Yeah.
Maybe it's automatic on the app.
In her defense, this is probably completely normal in the space that she's operating in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, everyone's going to be able to do it.
Judge for yourself.
Mr. Wong here points out nothing personal.
I just want a Christian Englishman in charge of the capital of England.
June, who's the most reformed cultist person ever, says we've had them in charge of the country allegedly, and where has that got us?
Oh.
And John says, sorry, Englishman, time to relinquish your homeland.
Well, it's literally the Tim Stanley position.
Yeah.
You blew it.
You blew it.
And so now we've got to put the minorities female Muslims.
Because look at them.
They're like white Australia policy now.
Right, right.
And what they're saying there is, why weren't you demanding the hardcore Steve Law's racist position?
Yeah, if she was the super.
If Flayder was coming out super-based, I would be like, hang on, hear her out.
But she's actually coming out a sibna and you're far right and trans.
That's my problem.
But what else we got?
Oh, Connor has quite a lot to say about this.
I refuse to vote for a Muslim candidate.
Leila may well say sensible things about the grooming gangs and Muslim Brotherhood, but I do not want to be governed by a Muslim anymore.
Should be two words there.
And I want to be governed by a communist.
The British public do not like Islam.
Why does reform?
And I think this is Dan Wutton's objection as well, as in, why should we not have native representation in the positions of leadership in the country, which is a good question.
I think he's actually right on this.
Actually, it should be that we prefer native representation than non-native.
Yeah, in private, I was trying to get Connor in trouble over this, and they've had attacked me before.
But yeah, it's like, it's not that extreme.
It's not an extreme position.
No, it's a normal position.
Totally normal.
Normal in any other country.
Literally.
Most many countries.
You think in Egypt, they have many non-Egyptian politicians.
There you go.
It's nonsense.
So this guy, Adrian Hilton, replies to this.
And hilariously, he is some sort of, what is he?
Let me see.
I'll just hover over it and he'll tell me.
He is an author and lecturer in political philosophy, which I found hilarious.
So he says, what an extraordinary take.
What would Connor say to the person who posted, I refuse to vote for the Roman Catholic candidate?
Leila Cunningham.
It's your choice.
What?
It's the embodiment of British Islam.
An Islam infused with Britishness.
Which I love that because it sounds like a Marx and Spencer advert for multiculturalism.
It's like, it's not just Islam.
This is British Islam.
It's like, what is an Islam infused with Britishness?
You absolute Muppet.
Anyway, which might be considered a kind of Anglican Islam.
And so not proper Islam by the more devout.
I've said this before, that basically, if we're going to have Muslims in this country long term, the king has to become the caliph of Islam and set up essentially the Anglican branch of Islam in the same way that we set up the Anglican church, right?
I'm not even joining.
I'm with this guy.
I'm not saying I'm with him.
Obviously, there's no such thing as British Islam.
But if we are going to come to some sort of settlement, then the king does kind of have to become the caliph.
Okay, fair play.
I mean, you know, not something I really...
No, obviously...
You're saying, okay, these are the terms.
Basically, yeah.
What is the reform rationale for it?
Is it that London has a high Muslim population and she's going to win this and she's also going to be a success story that is going to...
You know what's interesting?
London doesn't even have that high a Muslim population.
It's only about 30%, isn't it?
Yeah, well, we can get into that because I think 3-0.
I mean, it's high, don't we?
Well, I like the fact on the internet that says it's not proper Islam, right?
So whatever he's suggesting Lalia Cunningham is, she's not proper Islam.
Yeah, and he's saying that's a good thing because she doesn't really follow it.
Yeah, exactly.
She actually says she does.
Like on the Telegraph podcast, she says, well, no, I do follow.
She says the Burkers only eat Wahhabism.
That's not Islam.
I totally follow it.
It's a spiritual thing.
It's a way of life.
It's not about s she.
I guess she doesn't focus on some of the strict rules.
She says, I'm not so much into that.
So maybe it's her own interpretation.
Maybe she is a bit of an Anglican Muslim.
It does sound that way.
And we can get into that steel, like whether it'll actually work with Muslims.
I question whether they'll actually vote for it, but we can get into that.
Oh, yeah, that was just my joke about which I've done it in our lives, so we don't need to do it.
A kind of Anglican Islam.
That's what Carl's there.
Carl's there with the camera.
Yeah, well, I mean, that's where you have to go.
That's a good referendum.
Well, if you're going to argue there should be a kind of Anglican Islam, you've kind of got to go for the mosque of England and put King Charles at the top of it.
Which I'm sure he'd love.
Yeah, he'd love what he possibly wants.
Yeah, I'm surprised he hasn't proposed it, Frank.
He virtually is that, let's be honest.
That's the problem, though.
virtually is that already and it's not helping i mean he's just he's just the kind of why does it help that he's the kind of muslim king That's what you want.
You just said.
I don't know.
I'm not saying I want it.
I'm saying it logically follows.
Right, right.
Charles of Arabia.
He kind of is, though.
He's such a bloody...
Yeah, I know.
Anyway, you've already had that tweet, but I felt it was similar to the previous guys and kind of madness.
But so on this sort of will they actually vote for it, and is there such a thing as British Islam?
Moama says no.
He says there's no such thing.
Regardless of the personalities involved, if one eats non-halal food, if one drinks alcohol, if one doesn't observe the five pillars, they're not Muslim, but instead a Munafik in the eyes of Islam.
That version of Islam, which is neither mainstream and can never be mainstream, is the path of the Munafik in Islam.
So it's basically a hypocrite.
It means you're a hip.
In the eyes of the fan.
Yeah.
Well, he's just in the eyes of many Muslims.
So the Munafits are considered worse than infidels to Allah, a people that Allah would never forgive.
We know the way to live.
Sorry, who know the way to live by Islam but refuse to follow it.
It's in the Quran, black and white, in the Surah al-Munafiq.
I don't know how to pronounce that one, but it basically means hypocrites.
It's a section on hypocrisy.
So he says, reforming Islam is a pipe dream, a fancy appointance exercise.
These sort of gimmicks will work in temporarily to win elections, but once the demographic changes more and the numbers grow more, they'll show up on the real Islam.
So he just thinks this isn't a thing.
This British Islam infused with Britishness, Marx and Spencer Islam is not going to happen.
I like that term, Marks and Spencer.
Yeah, you're welcome.
So another one of my Nila just as well.
This is the thing.
I mean, will actual sort of, let's say, devout Muslims, would they actually vote later?
Would they look and go, hmm, she's not really Muslim enough for me?
And then who is going to vote for her?
She's saying weird, woke things that aren't going to encourage Uma Libtads.
That's what she's appealing to.
Yeah, well, I think about people I know in my football team who are like the ultimate metropolitan liberal remain a hard comment.
They're never going to vote for it.
Muslims, I'm not quite sure Muslims are going to vote for her.
Some might.
The right, more conservative people, maybe, but then if she keeps saying stuff like that, the trans thing, they'll be like, what?
I don't know.
I don't know.
But then again, on another level, she is relatively plausible compared to many candidates we've had against Sidiq Khan.
She comes across well and so on.
Yeah, she's not offensive and she is clever and well-spoken.
And she is presenting something that is not so unpalatable to any of the sides that if you were like, look, we just need something other than Sadiq Khan, right?
We just need to get rid of Sidiq Khan.
Even though, you know, I mean, there are loads of Muslims in London who hate Siddiq Khan.
Everyone hates Siddiq Khan.
So if you're just like, we just need to get rid of Sidiq Khan.
I know that she's not perfect.
I know that she's in Faraj's party, but she's not terrible to taste politically.
And so, you know, you can see yourself putting up at the right.
I could see myself if I lived in London voting for it.
Yeah, when I heard her talk about law and order and her kids being mod, I thought, like, if she stays on this ground, that's sympathetic and it's localized to London.
Strong.
She gets into the national stuff, she just sounds like any sibnat telling me I'm far right again.
So then I go, I hate this.
This is what I hate about reform.
But the local, yeah, on the London level, of course, she'd be much better than Khan.
So that is my position.
Connor said, even though Michaela School wouldn't host a Ramadan Iftar, I'll be voting for whoever the right-wing candidate, English candidate is instead.
So she hosted as a Conservative the first Conservative iftar in Westminster North.
So, you know, it's if she, how Muslims she's kind of like an Islam iftar, yeah.
Um, very long one from Connor, but he's just basically saying he says people are trying to figure her out, and the simplest answer is she's only interested in politics as a path for self-promotion.
She's a grifter, she saw reform likely to form the next government, wrote learning the slick British values, talking points to get ahead in a party desperate not to be called racist, and was pushed as the progressive proof face of the party.
Pretty true.
It sounds like very nice.
Everything she does is to increase her personal advantage.
She made headlines with her Superbum Citizens Arrest stunt and goes on.
He's not wrong.
I mean, yeah, she's ambitious.
She was in the Tories.
Now she's in reform.
She wants to get ahead.
She's also a bit of a lovely, right?
Like, she's, you know, come from the acting world.
So, you know, putting on a presentation is not difficult.
Not that I'm saying she's lying or anything like that.
But like, knowing how to present yourself to others to get a certain kind of perception is acting as well.
Yeah.
She actually did an app as well.
She was going to, she went to America to sell her app.
So quite common.
Yeah, she had like four kids with a different husband.
Then she's got seven kids, which is good on us.
Yeah, certainly trying to keep the birth rate up.
Well, actually, I've got a take about that later, so I'll go on to that later.
But anyway, that's Connor's statement it's self-interested grifting.
Oh, yeah, and I just gave, for some reason, I gave my take there.
So I just said, she's, yeah, Leylist Lady has more chance against Khan than some previous candidates we've seen, and would be better than him, Ovs.
But she's the ultimate sibnat, essentially the Michaela School on legs, British values, etc.
I'm over it to be honest.
That was my feeling on the day.
The reason I put that first is to prove that I said that first.
But then Pete said the exact same thing.
Oh, yeah.
Pete North.
Leila Cunningham is basically a Tory wet.
Worse than that, she's a right-wing lobby, as you said.
Same as Burblesing, as I said.
I was stealing from this tweet.
Oh, okay.
That she's horror makes her even worse because she's a novelty item, same as Bade Knock, a look where not racist mascot candidate.
I've seen enough of her to know that she's very much a political chameleon.
So, similar to Connor's point, well made, and actually it's a Pete post, so it's about 10,000 words.
I like the fact that Pete writes these.
Oh, it's great.
I'm just saying, not always ideal for a short podcast segment.
So read in your own time, get it, crack out your Tolstoy or your Pete North tweets.
And there are many during the day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's incredible.
Prolific.
Here he said, no, this is an interesting take.
Pete said reform policy should be not to contest the position and instead pledge to abolish the post.
I'll tell you what, that is an interesting take as well.
Because that gives people outside of London power over London.
Right, right.
Because a lot of people in the country resent London.
They resent London centrality in British politics.
And if you're essentially giving people a way to screw over London, you might get a kind of Brexit effect where it's like, yeah, you know what?
I'm not a huge fan of Farage, but I resent London.
I live there.
So yeah, I know what you mean.
But as you say, everyone hates Sadiq Khan.
Abolishing the post would be much better than Sadiq Khan because it's kind of like the Peter Hitchens when he always talks about that story about the Aesop's fable.
Would you rather have the stork or the log?
Remember that one?
Is it the frogs?
They said, would you rather have a king stork or king log?
So king log is just a log who does nothing and they're all complaining.
He doesn't do anything.
And they go, okay, well, we're sending in the stork.
And the stork eats them all.
We want the log.
So basically, a log would be better than Sadiq Khan because he's actively damaging.
I mean, if I were a Farage, I'd set up a kind of like viceroyal position to London where it's like, yeah, appointed by the government and for the period of the five years in the parliament, right?
So you're going to be the governor of London rather than the mayor of London.
So you're just appointed by the government.
So, when you elect a government, you know you're getting that style of governance of London, right?
That's that's what I would do, yeah, because otherwise, it's a weird fiefdom, it's a weird tribal castle, it's bizarre, yeah.
Yeah, and it's also like giving too much to kind of like French revolutionary democracy.
Oh, everything should be voted for.
No, you know, shut up, get rid of that, yeah.
Tommy Robinson is for Ant.
He's Ant Middleton for mayor, uh, same as Dan.
I mean, I would be as well, and I, I, just to be clear, I'm really very sympathetic to Connor and Dan Wooden's position: I don't really want to vote for someone who represents the demographic change of the country, actually.
I think actually we have to be able to vote for ourselves and be able to confidently vote for ourselves because we are just as valid as those people.
In fact, in some cases, more so because we're the native inheritance of the country.
I don't think that's an unreasonable thing to say and an unreasonable position to hold.
So, I'm actually very sympathetic to Dan and Connor's position here.
Yeah, you don't seem to be very persuaded by that.
No, no, I am.
I've just no, no, I totally agree.
I'm just, I suddenly don't have to.
I got tired from it.
No, no, no, I totally agree.
Sorry, I'll stop talking because I've made the whole that's my whole case.
I only tempered it slightly this morning when I thought, oh, she's not that bad.
And I felt bad because I got like 20 tweets lined up about why she's awful.
But no, I completely agree.
We should be able to say, let's have a, of course, it's our, but I've never agreed with giving up the capital.
I was like, oh, London's gone, and we would give it up.
No, no, it's the capital of England.
Yeah, it should be English.
And it should be run by an English person.
Of course, what's wrong with that?
And I was like, oh, the cities are gone, give them up, London's gone.
I'm like, London's not gone.
London's our capital.
So I don't want to give it up.
I'm from the north.
I'll always identify more as from the lakes or Cumbria or the North.
But my DNA, as we've seen, is from there.
But London is our capital.
I've been there since 2009.
We're not giving it up.
So I don't buy into that.
Anyway.
So for balance, Aaron Bastani wasn't so keen.
Why would Reform pick the?
This is Ant Middleton versus Leila.
Why would Reform pick the intelligent, telegenic communicator capable of building a larger coalition over the TV celebrity posting constant AI slop who called for a white militia as a parallel structure to the police, but he also has bad qualities.
Are you saying that Ant Middleton's not telegenetic?
Yeah, he's actually a TV presenter.
So that doesn't make any sense.
He's definitely handsome man.
Yeah, that's true.
You know, like as if he's some sort of cave troll or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's a good looking guy.
Yeah, he's like, women like him, and he's a TV SPS hero action.
That's a military guy.
He's not ugly.
He's gone with a terrible, yeah, terrible.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's weird.
And he's a good communicator because he's leader.
He's leader.
He was like a leader.
And he's a TV.
So it's not like he's bad at.
No, he's good at communication.
That's nonsense.
I think it's more about the white militia stuff.
Yeah, it's probably that.
It's probably maybe the AI slop.
I don't know.
Well, the ASL's pretty.
No, I love Ant because he's always like, just Edmund, switch on, just switch on.
If you ever watch his show, he beasts them for like 20 minutes.
They're doing like a thousand burpees.
He's like, switch on.
It's like, Ant, I'm nearly dead.
It's not really about switching on.
I literally cannot physically move anymore.
But he's just like, constantly focus.
It's like, it's more of a cardio thing.
Anyway, love Ant.
But just for more balance, because I'm a balanced guy, off-com trained, this guy, the Virgin Dorkwright, childless, get to visit London, probably has an Asian girlfriend anyway, does nothing to save Britain, versus the Chad, Leila Cunningham, raising seven blonde-haired, blue-eyed kids in inner London, vigilante mum, may actually be Khan Fit.
Just give him balance.
How did he know I have an Asian girlfriend?
Well, I'm certainly like, you can't.
I am childless.
You got me there.
I decided to visit London.
I'm there every day.
Tough in an hour.
I'm disappointed.
Definitely not have an Asian girlfriend, and I do loads to save Britain.
But anyway, just wanted to give balance.
Who is he talking about, though?
Like, who does he think he's addressing there?
I think, I don't know.
Is it Connor?
I don't know.
Connor's married.
I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's working hard to save Britain, you know, like all of us.
So he means he's got some right-wing in their head that's saying they don't want Leila.
I mean, I suppose Dan might be childless, but that would seem to be a bit of an unfair attack.
Anyway, I don't know.
I mean, who knows?
But I wanted to give balance because I'm a fair guy.
But then I just suddenly added this on the train because I thought, oh, but this is always the problem, though, ultimately, with reform, which is they're just Tories.
I was going to say, I was going to say, I was going to say that in 2022, when you stood as a Conservative candidate, Boris was the Prime Minister.
If you felt that he was betraying Brexit, why did you stand?
Quick question, because I stood for my area for my question.
Crime was rampant because the Tories were like, hang on, excuse me.
If the Tories are so bad, why is Reform UK filling themselves full of them?
I can't answer that.
Oops.
But that's a great question.
Why are we having an argument?
It's so too Tory wet.
It's so easy to answer this, though.
Yeah.
That's weird.
She could say they were the good ones.
She could say that.
That's what exactly I said.
We're carefully vetting them.
We're getting people like Danny Kruger who are smart and who, you know, were trying, they worked behind the scenes.
Yeah, yeah.
They didn't always get it done because of the other guys.
And when they saw that they couldn't get it done, they came to us.
And then Michelle goes, but what about Jake Berry?
And that's when you go, oh, is that the time?
And then you know, but yeah.
I'm not at liberty to disclose that information.
You know it.
But yeah, but she's kind of off.
That's what I mean about Leila.
She kind of just says what she thinks.
She's not really on message.
Yeah, the obviously the on message thing would be to say, we're carefully creating them, we're only picking the best and all that.
And I got Carl's got that look like I'm running over time.
I've gone.
No, no, no.
I just wanted to say, because I also saw this.
This is in a context of you've got to see where reform are going and why I don't like them basically and why I get attacked in the replies.
Because look at Zia Yousuf is here in 2026 posting a the left of the real racist post.
He says Rachel Reeves comments to the Guardian equating Britishness with race are beyond the pale and overtly racist.
Kirstama must sack it and he has a long post.
Rachel Reeves comes out as an ethno-nationalist.
She believes only white people can be British.
And what this was, there was talk about a two-child benefit cap and it being in place for everyone except British-born families.
And she equated British born with non-white because she said, oh, what you only wanted to give it to white people.
Does Nigel Farage want to go around and say white?
You can have the money, black.
I'm sorry, it's not for you.
So Rachel kind of unconsciously equated British-born with white.
So now he's like, well, she's rated, which is...
Lord, give me the right wingers that the left think that we're going to get.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or give us Rachel base Rachel Reeves.
But like, Zia Youssef going, the left of the real racist, where's where like supers just sieve-natted into oblivion, you know, Muslim, multiple Muslim candidates.
Yeah, I mean, they did a hilarious thumbnail, Samson, for this, like, which way London man, Muslim candidate, you know, other Muslim candidates.
So enjoy your choice.
The reason the reform was so annoying.
We should do the illusion of free choice.
Right.
It's just this is so this is a wider zoom out of like the thing is my reform.
Just a quick thing on this.
Like, broadly speaking, that is correct, though, right?
Broadly speaking, it is going to be that the lifting the two-child cap is going to benefit a bunch of people who weren't born here.
And you're going to pay for it.
So, like, Rachel Reeves, unfortunately, is basically correct.
Zia.
Yeah.
That's why I hate this whole line of attack.
Yeah.
And when Layla's saying, oh, you're far right and we're all about trans people.
And when Zia's saying, guess what, guys, Richard Reeves is a real racist.
I'm like, okay, so this is Muslims calling me far right and racist.
Like, this is the right, this is my base right-wing party, is it?
Yeah.
Come on.
Anyway, so that's that.
And anyway, but overall, nothing against Layla, but reform lame.
Yeah.
Is that fair?
Unfortunately.
But still better than Khan.
Brackets better than Khan.
Brackets as anything would be, including nothing.
Brackett's still not voting for the Conservatives.
Yeah.
But would you vote Reform Star?
That's a bigger question.
I probably have to, to be honest.
It's funny.
I just don't see any options.
Right.
It's so academic in my area because Labour got more than twice Tories and Reform combined last time.
And Greens came second.
So I'm like, oh, great.
Pointless voting system.
Get used to the Zach Polanski ethnoste.
Sorry, yeah, sorry.
Don't worry.
Yeah.
Mine's a bit more sad.
So prepare a bit.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
Let's see if that works.
Yeah.
Seems to be working.
Right.
Okay.
Right.
So I think one of the worst things about wokeness and the DEI thing is that it doesn't care about the common good.
It doesn't care about the public safety.
The woke just care more about their ideological idea and abstractions of racial quotas and what group is represented in what particular distribution of offices.
And they don't care enough about these people holding these offices doing their work.
So it's very much anti-meritocratic.
And because it's anti-meritocratic, it's against the common good.
It's against the public.
But the ideologue must feel self-satisfied when they are achieving their own values at the expense of society at large.
So it looks like lots of people in the police are really among the worst of the country.
Or some of them.
And there's a classic trope of people who say, all right, it's the popos, it's the bad guys.
No, I'm talking about real life here.
I'm talking about actually bad people.
I mean, in this particular case, you seem to have a really strong point.
Yeah, no, I'm talking about really some really bad people.
And here we have, for instance, a convicted child rapist.
Somehow, he was a member of the, he was hired to be a police officer.
Serial sex offender.
Yes.
Right.
So these articles that you can find on the internet, you can find, for instance, on the Daily Mail, rapists and violent thugs were hired by the Met as full checks were axed in rush to recruit officers, force admits.
And then Met hired child rape suspect in Diversity Drive.
They are really information dense and it's lots of information there, but they're badly structured.
So I'm going to help you a bit with the structure.
I'm not going to read from the text.
Occasionally, I'm going to tell you roughly what happened.
So there were two things.
There was a boost.
There was an attempt to boost the numbers of police officers.
And there was a pressure to meet the previous Met Chiefs diversity quotes.
Procedure Dick.
President Dick, who came up with the quota, the following percentage: 40% ethnic minority people need to be represented in the force.
It doesn't matter whether they feel whether they're good at what they're doing.
They need 40% representation.
And that's more important in the eyes of the ideologue than these people actually doing their job.
So these two things were a recipe for disaster.
And let me give you some numbers.
From the period between 2013 and 2023, there were around 5,000 officers and staff members who were hired and recruited without undergoing the necessary background checks.
And there were an extra 17,500 who were hired without the references being checked.
So standards were completely dropped when it came to 5,000 people.
So that's over 20,000 police officers who could well be serious child sex offenders.
Yes.
Right.
During COVID, it got even more lax, didn't it?
Yeah.
Because they weren't doing the usual in-person interviews and things like that.
The standards got even worse.
Yeah.
So I'll give you four numbers: 17.5K, 5K, 130, and then 13.
And I'll explain.
Right.
So as I said before, there were 5,000 people who were hired without even basic background checks.
And then there were 17.5K who were hired with some checks, but without the proper double and triple checking that occurs in many other places.
And if it should happen somewhere, if you need to double-click in the police when people are in power.
And then Scotland Yard said that about 130 officers who were hired of them went to commit misdemeanors and crimes.
And this serial sex offender here, Cliff Mitchell, he was hired despite being accused, having been accused of being a sex offender.
So what happened there was Chris the Dick had this push for 40% diversity representation, minority ethnic representation.
And there was a committee that was set up and it investigated why candidates from particular minorities were not given the job, why their applications were rejected.
And they opened the case, the cases again, and they said, right, let's be more lenient.
Was this guy one of them?
This guy was one of them.
He was rejected from raping children.
Wait, so he was accused of being a rapist.
His application was rejected.
And then that committee came across and said, well, no, we need to change that.
And we need to give these people a chance to be more represented.
And they hired him.
The rapist community needs representation.
was accused then but after that he was found and he was convicted of 13 counts of rape and out of these 13 jail i don't know he is in jail right now Oh, right.
It says here, he is serving defendant.
Yeah, but he's.
Oh, he is in jail.
He might not have been.
He can't wait to get back on the beat.
Making your streets safe from people like him.
The feminists complaining about the Sarah Everard case starting to sound like they have a point.
Genuinely.
We will talk about it because I do have a, you know, within quotation marks from the past.
But one thing that, I mean, obviously any count of any rape is absolutely horrible.
Six out of these 13 were children.
What was going through his mind being like, yeah, you know what?
I think I need to become a police officer now.
And they say here, the Met Police hired officers who failed background checks to boost diversity, including a man accused of raping a child.
More than 100 applicants who initially failed vetting procedures were later allowed to join after the cases were referred to a special panel set up to scrutinize rejected applications from ethnic minority candidates and help the force made diversity candidate targets.
They included police constable Cliff Mitchell, who was recruited despite having been accused of raping a child.
His application was initially rejected, but this decision was overturned.
He was later convicted of 13 counts of rape, including six against a child.
So we can conjure up an idea of who was involved in that committee, the reasons they were involved in that committee, what went through their minds, and they knew that this was a person who was accused of this.
I think Shabana Mahmoud and also the current Met Chief Mark Rowley have taken action and they have said that this is massive dereliction of duty, especially when it happened between 2013 and 2023.
And we have to mention there that this is mostly Tory.
Based Shabana Mahmood has come in to clean up the Tory mess.
That was within Tory.
Layla Cunningham also said she would sack Mark Rowley.
So you'll be hoping she doesn't get in.
It's incredible, isn't it?
The evils of DEI are sort of untold.
It's a Pandora's block.
You think about that recent article, what it's done to a whole generation or two generations of white men.
But there are all sorts of untold effects people don't think.
Plane crashing and all these things, but these things as well.
And by the way, why do you have to represent everyone?
I think maybe the only role I can think of that has an argument for that is literally a member of parliament because they're a representative.
But even then, if we're assuming we're in this meritocracy and we're saying we're not just in some sectarian culture, then why should you have set it should just be are they representing your interest, not their skin colour or something.
So why does everyone have to be represented?
But also here, as they say here, there were 25 officers who were given a second chance who went on to commit criminal offenses or misconduct, including violence, sex attacks, and drug use.
So this is imagine this committee being set up by people who say, all right, I don't care about the common good.
I care about diversity quotas.
Or they may think that all they need to do in order to promote the common good is to fill diversity quotas, which isn't the case.
Because you have people sometimes who just don't do their jobs and people sometimes who just shouldn't be there.
How did these conversations go?
Sorry, senior constable.
This guy has been accused of raping six children and six women.
Well, it's the system's fault.
Yeah, even though it's fault.
Always.
Does that stop him from being black?
Yeah, exactly.
Because the idea is, one argument is, oh, we can only police certain communities by having people that look like them.
But it's still a job that requires competence above all else.
It's not just like showing up, hey, I look like you.
It's like, you actually ought to stop people.
Not even competence.
Like, okay, if you're an incompetent police officer, who's a DIY hire, okay, fair enough.
You don't catch any cronies.
I know, yeah.
But a lot of them.
Yeah, this is way worse.
Don't be an actual rapist.
Yes.
And they're kicking out.
Sorry, they're getting rid of white people, just like the RAF, useless white males.
Imagine all the white guys who were competent, like, get up.
Yeah, a huge part is this, but also in some of these cases, it's not necessarily targeted against whites.
Not that there isn't the DI idea that, you know, the but the way that they carve up these groups and those minorities sometimes includes whites.
So it's not imagine.
And for instance, they probably have.
There probably were white people who were going for the job that this guy got.
Imagine you sat in the bloody interview room and you're like, okay, well, I'm going to go for it.
I think I'm a good candidate.
No, they went for the sex offender.
Yeah, sorry, mate.
We've got a serial rapist in the other room who's looking pretty good for this job right now.
Why?
He's melanin.
As we know, the Cheshire police were successfully sued for this, but that's very rare, given the amount of times it happens, yeah.
And I want to...
Well, there have been several, and it's, you know, from all over the population groups.
But I want to show you this because it shows the systemic aspect of it.
So Cress the Dick was the previous Met chief.
And as it says here in Wikipedia, and we remember by the previous Wikipedia CEO, that sometimes concern about facts gets in the way of creating a helpful consensus.
And here Wikipedia says she is both the first female and the first openly homosexual officer to lead the Met police.
Right.
So she came up with a 40% diversity quota.
She just came up with it.
And I'm not a comment about the rest of them.
I want to show you.
Mark Rally's only the second.
As it says here that details of the vetting blunders emerged in a review commissioned by the Met in the wake of a string of scandals involving serving officers who had slid through the net, such as Wayne Cousins, who went on to murder Sarah Everard and David Carrick, a serial rapist.
And I want to show how the BBC presented back then, back during the Sarah Everard murder, that tragedy, how it was presented back then.
And let us see how the narrative was circulated about this event and how that narrative justified, sort of justified setting up that committee.
And then we'll compare it to what the BBC said here.
Obviously, I mean, the BBC is the BBC.
You'd expect it to be partial towards some people.
So it says here, 11th of February, four years ago, 2022, Cressida Dick to step down as Metropolitan Police Chief.
So they're saying that she is leaving her role after a series of damaging controversies.
And what do you think are these controversies?
I can see disgraceful misogyny, discrimination, sex harassment.
So the controversy was that she wasn't woke enough.
And let us look at here.
I clicked on the other link.
Sex offender is woke enough.
Prices and Controversies of Matt Chief.
So they're saying that perhaps the most high profile, she was saying basically that allegations relating to an unholy trinity of dishonesty, prejudice and incompetence dog the Matt for almost all of her tenure.
And they made it about her not being woke enough.
A serving Met officer with a record of indecent exposure and a nickname of the rapist.
Yes.
So they made it.
That could be any of them.
So she made it about race.
She made it also about, you know, a diversity thing.
And fast forward to today, we see that the very attempt to frame this event as, you know, white people were white police officers were bad, misogynistic and racist did lead to that committee being set up, to that committee being saying, right, we need to have less of them because they're white.
We need to have less of them.
And we need not to care about their performances and the background checks and their CVs.
We need to care about group representation in the distribution of offices in the force.
So if we bear in mind what they did and how they covered this case, the way that they circulated the narrative about it and what they were trying to justify with it and where that led to the real-life consequences where this led,
I think we can say safely yet again that this is one of the cases that shows that wokeness and this progressivist ideology is really socially corrosive and it doesn't promote the common good.
It doesn't make people safer of any group.
Wow.
Seems to be helping out the rapists.
Well, this was tricky because there was one thing which was Gallows humor and WhatsApp groups between police officers, which obviously would happen, which is sort of normal.
Then there was, okay, this guy is called a rapist, and he actually is a horrific rapist and killer, so that's actually a problem.
And then there's this overreaction, as you say, bringing in, or just this terrible idea to bring, yeah, of representation.
So they're sort of all mixed together.
They've got enough of an argument there because they use the fact that, hang on, this one guy was awful, therefore all white officers having banter and WhatsApp groups are essentially evil.
Yeah.
And you remember the completely unstable narrative that somehow Western culture, white culture, European culture or male culture is somehow pro-rape, which isn't the case.
You mentioned as before, you can have Gallows humor, but at the end of the day, when we have people expressing these views or everyone thinks, the first thing that comes to mind is, well, do I want him to be around me?
Do I want him to be around other people?
Do I want this person to be around my loved ones?
So it's very socially corrosive when we have people of this intensely ideological worldview and disposition to be in the place where they get, they aren't just involved in the decision-making process.
They're involved in very sensitive decisions.
Just look at the bed they've made for themselves.
Like, look at what they are now dealing with.
Oh, we've got this insane rapist who we hired because he was black.
Yeah, they've also had to lower all their fitness standards because of hiring loads of women who are four foot.