We've got AA, Will Tanner, many great returning writers for this issue of Islander 5.
I've done my own Marshalls of Middle-earthlon on Aragorn this time, so I hope you all enjoy that.
So today, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to be talking all about how the left are trying to find a new martyr.
We're then going to be talking about, well, we're going to ask if the West Midlands police did anything wrong, apparently.
It is an argument I will advance.
It fell flat on its photo on Twitter, but I'm going to have another go.
All right, okay.
Well, I'll enjoy watching you have a pop at it.
And then we're going to talk about the future of the American right.
So with that all said, shall we begin?
So I would just like to start by really talking about the fact that obviously ICE have never really had the eye, you know, of public attention on them quite like they do now.
They're under a great amount of stress and duress.
And I think we should commend them irrespective of whether or not we think the number of deportations are what we actually want and whether we think it's enough to help save America.
I mean you see they're under stress.
The stress that they should primarily be under is how can I get these rookie numbers up?
Yes, absolutely.
But I want to just make the point as well that irrespective of those numbers, none of it is to take away from the actual individual bravery, patriotism, sense of service.
Patriots to a man.
That those in ICE are actually obviously motivated.
The only problem with them really is that there aren't enough of them.
Yes.
Yes.
No, I absolutely agree with that.
And so really, we have now, you'll have seen by now, what happened in Minnesota, always Minnesota these days.
Funny how that seems to work, isn't it?
Where a left-wing activist and someone who's basically tried to get in the way of ICE has ended up losing her life.
She was shot as a result of this.
And we're going to talk that through and go through it all.
But in all of this, I just wanted to say as well that obviously on the left side of things, they all see themselves as heroes fighting against this oppressive corruptor system.
They are indeed delusional.
Right, they do believe this.
And obviously the ICE people as well are heroes in their own right.
And I absolutely do believe that because they are trying to restore peace, order, tranquility, safety to the country that they deeply love and feel patriotic about.
And so these meditations on heroism and power are very, very important to how we understand society.
And it's with that respect that I just want to draw your attention to the fact that we have the new issue of Islander magazine, which is all about power and heroism.
That is the main theme of this particular magazine.
It's on sale now on the website for £15, rounded up by a penny.
And there are many wonderful articles in there by some of our great writers, such as Morgoth, Carl, Rory.
There are some really strong articles in the world.
Yeah, really good pieces.
So if you're interested, you know where to go.
All right.
So let's just begin by rewinding, shall we, back to the start of this year, because we are seeing ridiculous numbers of antagonism, you know, cases of violence against these ICE law enforcement officers.
As we can see here from the Homeland Security part of the website itself, sanctuary politicians' rhetoric fuels more than 1,150% increase in violence against ICE.
It goes on to point out that these, from January 21st, 2024 through to November the 21st, when the election was held, there were only 19 reported assaults against ICE law enforcement, while in the same timeframe of 2025, that went up to 238.
To be fair, there's a lot more of them now than there was.
There are.
But I agree with you on that.
But also as well, it does feel like this was naturally going to happen.
The temperature has been turned up on the left, yes.
There weren't people deliberately going out of the way to attack them for a start.
No.
That just didn't happen.
Well, I mean, they were completely ineffectual under Biden.
So you didn't need to attack them.
Yeah, by design.
And everyone knew that Biden wasn't really putting any pressure on them whatsoever.
And so, sure, let them go about with the formality of being who they are, but with no real power.
And obviously now they have the full state backing of Washington, of Trump, of their administration.
And obviously with that, there is coming, as I say, a lot of violence.
We had the Dallas sniper, which was back in September of last year.
I covered this.
Yes.
Yeah, absolutely horrific incident.
Was that the one where he shot into the back of a van and actually killed the immigrants?
Yes, that's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Killed one.
And himself.
Oh, okay.
Right.
Right.
We also have a rise in Molotov cocktails and car rammings and all, you know, vehicle using them to smash into ICE vehicles.
Terrible, terrible stuff.
And so perhaps it's not a surprise to anyone that with all of this antagonism, all of this confrontation in cities like Minnesota, places like Seattle, places like LA, where ICE are trying to get in there and do their duty, do their job of making these streets safer and getting rid of the many, many illegals who shouldn't be there.
Of course, eventually, someone from that side of things was going to get caught in the crossfire.
And I do just want to say, and I'm sorry, but I must be blunt about this, I'm surprised it took this long, to be honest.
This felt kind of inevitable because the far left do really see themselves as being on some great crusade and that they're defending the downtrodden, even though those downtrodden happen to be foreign criminals who are actually making their communities a hell of a lot more dangerous.
Can I be a tiny bit picky?
I don't think you meant it like this, but just to be super picky.
When you say caught in the crossfire, I mean, she put herself directly in the crossfire.
Well, this is what we're going to come to.
Yeah.
She went out of her way Obstruct ICE as much as possible, blocking the roads, literally trying to ram one of their officers.
And we'll get to the minutiae of that particular thing a little later.
But yeah, her name was Rennie Nicole Gould.
was 37 years old uh poet and writer and wife and mum and guitar drummer from colorado living in minneapolis and the of course it's always a tragedy when you know a young mother dies Always a tragedy.
It absolutely is.
One of your duties as a parent is to be there for your children, and that involves not doing reckless, stupid things.
I very much agree.
I was going to say that exact same thing, that someone with that degree of responsibility, regardless of their politics, shouldn't be putting themselves...
She was putting illegal migrants ahead of her own child.
Yep.
Exactly.
Which is a thing the left does, but fine.
And so obviously Homeland Security have had to issue a statement about it saying basically many of the similar things that I've just been saying about the rate of violence against ICE troops obviously going up a lot and talking about the fact that it is just it was an act of domestic terrorism.
You're actively trying to stop them from doing what they want.
But of course all of this is really guided by the fact that the left have been looking for this for ages.
They've wanted something like this to happen so desperately because it in one of their own, for want of a better way to put it, being killed, it actively gives them a license to up the violence, to up the rhetoric.
And so now all of a sudden on streets across American cities, we have vast protests just shouting for death to ICE and people who are, you know, just good people, dutiful people, trying to make their own communities safer and obviously protect the integrity of the United States itself.
I think we're at the sort of stage of the late Roman Republic whereby you've got two different competing groups of elites or political parties in this instance basically whispering to the people on the street who support them, listen, do these things.
I'm not allowed to formally tell you to do them, but they know by this point that their rhetoric leads to these sorts of actions, right?
When they're saying that, you know, ICE are illegal, no humans are legal, they don't belong in our communities.
There will be people who lap that sort of stuff up, even though it is detached from reality.
And that, of course, you need a border and to get rid of illegal immigrants is something that's common all around the world.
And to suggest otherwise is insane, but there are plenty of insane people out there who are willing to listen.
And with them calling Trump a traitor and, you know, an insurrectionist and a dictator and all those things, that led to many people trying to take his life.
And so when they're talking about ICE, the implication there is very similar.
And also, I think the fact that they've got to cover up their faces and do all of these things to mitigate what effectively is a form of stochastic terrorism.
Absolutely.
It's trite to make the comparison, but that they behave like they're occupied by the empire from Star Wars.
And an ICE agent is like the equivalent of a stormtrooper.
And they genuinely think they're the rebel alliance, even while it's not considering the fact that actually there's nothing imperialistic about this whatsoever.
It's merely trying to keep law and order in your own homeland, in your own country.
This isn't even abroad.
This is just here.
And they're emboldened by the fact that they know that they can constantly rely.
There is no number of crimes that they can commit.
It doesn't matter how heinous the things that they do are.
I won't get pictures of it up, but on the Homeland Security website, there are photos of ICE members who have been attacked.
And, you know, I've seen people's lips cut in half.
I've seen horrible, horrible wounds.
You know, many an ICE person sent to hospital as well.
You know, really, it could be life-changing for some of these poor men.
And what's more, as I say, the left who are inflicting this violence on them know that they have the backing of the Minneapolis State Department, of people like Mayor Jacob Frey.
Established media as well.
Yes, let's just listen to them talk here.
To ICE, get the fuck out of Minneapolis.
Your stated reason for being in this city is to create some kind of safety, and you are doing exactly the opposite.
Somebody is dead.
That's on you.
This was an agent recklessly using power that resulted in somebody dying.
To the family, I'm so deeply sorry.
We're going to be working towards justice as quickly as we possibly can right now.
Justice is what we've all got to get.
We're going to make sure that in this very difficult moment, we do not take the bait that these ICE agents are trying to create and that the federal government, to be clear, wants people utterly unhinged.
I mean, presumably that's dubbed and was originally in Somalian.
Well, actually, you've just beat me to something there, which is to say that all the time that this is going on, Minnesota's reputation is in the absolute gutter.
Right, after we covered, I think Harry covered on the podcast yesterday, talking about the Somalian daycare scandal and the fact that Tim Walsh, the governor, has basically said, I'm not going to run for a third term now because this is such an untenable level of corruption.
I mean, it's such a bizarre thing.
I mean, being British, I don't have to think about Minnesota that often.
I mean, I imagine even most Americans don't have to think about Minnesota that often.
But the last time I did was when I watched the film Fargo in like whatever it was, like 1989 or whatever that came out.
And it's this good here.
It's this really northern state and it's really bloody cold.
And it's got all these Scandinavian people in it who talk a bit weird.
And it's really bloody cold.
And then the next time I have to think about it, they've got Somalians everywhere.
How antithesis of that, really?
How does that go together?
How am I not living in a simulation that that follows from that?
Yeah, no, it's totally deranged.
And all of this to say as well, that when we'll go through the footage in slow motion here, but when Jacob Frey talks about the fact that, oh, this is someone who was killed by ICE, right?
Everything that happened before that that led to that result is immaterial.
It's inconvenient to the narrative.
And so all of it just has to be dismissed.
Jacob Frey says, oh, I watched the footage.
And, well, a lot of people have watched that footage.
I've seen this going around, obviously, all over my timeline this morning.
Millions and millions of people have seen this.
Well, I mean, I saw it and I watched the clip and it was like six seconds long and it looked bad.
And I thought, yeah, but it's six seconds long.
What actually happened?
And I thought, I'm not going to look at this anymore because I know that somebody will cover it tomorrow.
Not to sound too crass here, but if it were a situation where someone came to me and said they were bitten by a snake, I would say, what were you doing to mess with the snake?
Right.
And to get shot by ICE.
They're not known to go around shooting people, are they?
In fact, she was just walking to the local costa.
Don't make the follow-on thought about the not knowing.
I know where you know where you want to go next.
You're not allowed.
Okay.
Just for you.
Back in line.
So let's just watch this footage slowly, shall we?
Mute that because so you can see Can see here, there's two people.
There's one at the front of the car, one at the side.
Obviously, he's obstructed a bit by the first person in front, but you can see the gunshot goes off after the car begins to rev itself and then goes on because the person inside it was Renee was shot inside and crashed further down the road as a result of it and obviously died.
Now, I thought that Asmagold had a really good breakdown of this.
And I thought rather than going through it, it's only a minute long, I thought let's just let him say it himself.
Right there, she's literally, she's moving forward, and he had to just barely get out of the way.
He barely got, if he hadn't moved, she would have run him over.
Watch the tire.
See, now the tire is moving forward.
You see, the tire is moving forward with the officer directly in front of the car.
You can see the spinning.
This would have never happened if she had just gotten out of the car.
And it would have never happened if she hadn't just tried to block the police in the first place.
I see her spinning her wheels forward right there.
You're trying to run over that officer.
You are.
She doesn't give a fuck.
Plus, if you're next to a car like that, you can hear it when it starts accelerating.
You know what?
You actually bring up a great point.
I hadn't even thought about this.
But the police officer who was in front of the car heard the wheels accelerating.
And yeah, absolutely.
He's going to pull out his fucking gun.
That's a great point.
New pictures show the bullet hole in the windshield so clearly shot from front of the car.
Here we go.
And you can see right here, if the cop wasn't in front of the vehicle, then he wouldn't have been able to make this shot.
I've seen the video.
Don't very forensically said.
And also, what's more as well, and this is something we were talking about before we came on air, the fact that as well, because of the winter frost on the road, that basically made sure that the tires span, didn't grip.
And so if it had not been winter, if there had not been ice on the road, yeah, I know, I know.
Then ice saved by ice seems to be what we have here, ladies and gentlemen.
But I don't want to make too communic a deal of it.
The point is that that man's very, very lucky to be alive.
And the other thing to say, of course, is just that really the ice on the road is the only reason that we're not looking at a very, very different headline right now.
Many, many different headlines.
And so whilst the left actively look for this woman as an example to ferment revolution and the entire state apparatus of Minnesota uses it to basically create further antagonism towards the federal government, towards Trump and all of that.
As I say, they would not shed a tear if it were the other way around.
If that's why it just got pancaked, or you know, just run over there and then.
Yeah, you'd absolutely have had.
And we have an eyewitness testimony here from one of the local women.
I'll just let her speak on this quickly.
They clearly wanted her out of there because she was the main car leading the protest, is my understanding.
I talked to another guy who was driving behind her.
But she was very successful in blocking traffic.
She was doing what she was set out to do.
And so they wanted to get her the hell out of there.
Yeah.
So it looked like she was impeding ICE vehicles.
Definitely.
Yeah, that was her goal.
I mean, it all seems really clear-cut from what I've been through this morning.
And I just want to make this absolutely clear.
I'm not saying that it looks clear-cut because I am naturally on the side of ice, right?
When I first saw this footage, I thought it looks a bit ambiguous.
And now I've sort of like, you know, followed the evidence and come to this conclusion.
I have not, like Jacob Frey, just looked at this incident and gone, how can I use this?
Right?
I've not done that whatsoever.
Sorry.
I mean, that was exactly my impression.
When I first saw the footage without any context, it's like, what's going on here?
I mean, was she turning around in the street?
But once you get all the background, she knew what she was dealing with.
She knew she was blocking traffic.
She deliberately tried to run into an officer.
Once you just know a little bit more than the first clip that you see, changes the picture.
Well, it doesn't.
It clarifies.
It clarifies.
It absolutely does.
And so, as a result of this, of course, as I say, the people protesting against ICE in Minnesota have needed no time whatsoever to use this as an excuse to start burning American flags, to start chanting for death.
Obviously, it's gone on to Minneapolis, where it was happening, Seattle as well, shouting death to ICE.
To the surprise of no one as well, Mamdani in New York has obviously, you know, took this to further his own rhetoric as well.
And then I found this article by LeTelegraph where her family members actually spoke about her character.
And they went on to say that Good, a poet and mother of three, was married to a woman named Becca Good at the time of her death.
She had previously been married to Timmy Ray Macklin Jr., who died in 2023 at the age of 36.
It doesn't say under what circumstances.
Speaking to La Telegraph, her former father-in-law, Timmy Ray Macklin Sr., said he believed that she was murdered by ICE agents.
It's horrible.
It's murder.
Everybody is terribly shocked right now.
She was a good, outgoing person.
I didn't agree with a lot of her ways, but it's really sad to see these things happen.
Good and her former husband had a child, age six, who she would bring to see her grandparents a couple of times a year.
And he added, My main concern right now is just getting my grandchild.
Donna Granger, her mother, describes Good as an amazing human being and one of the kindest people I've ever known in a tribute in the Minnesota Star.
She was extremely compassionate.
She's taken care of people all her life.
She was loving, forgiving, and affectionate.
Now, I don't actually doubt that what the mother is saying is true about her being a very compassionate, loving, and affectionate woman.
The question is, who was her compassion for?
Well, it certainly wasn't for fellow Americans.
Or her children.
Or her child, yeah.
Or her child.
ICE agents.
And so, unfortunately, I have to agree with Cassandra here when she says, imagine having a six-year-old child at home whose dad had died back in 2023 and going to play superhero to fight law enforcement in defense of random Somalians.
You know, why are leftists like this?
So, let me be clear.
It is a tragedy when a young mother dies.
Yes, it is.
However, just a B scenario, this scenario A, that kid grows up with a belligerent left-wing poet, she, her trans flag in the bio, or grows up with what sounds like actually quite sensible grandparents.
Well, I'm not saying it's not a tragedy, but I think that child's life prospects might have improved.
Well, we can only hope for the very best, obviously, for the child in its future.
But this all does come down to the fact as well that they are really using this to let's hear Tim Waltz here talk.
Keep the federal government out of Minnesota National Guard.
We have soldiers in training and prepared to be deployed if necessary.
I remind you, a warning order is a heads up for folks.
And these National Guard troops are our National Guard troops.
They're teachers in your community.
They're business owners.
They're construction professionals.
They are Minnesotans.
Minnesota will not allow our community to be used as a prop in a national political fight.
We will not take the bait.
We will continue to update you, Minnesota, as we get more information.
Now I'd like to turn it over to Commissioner B. Just mental.
I'm not entirely sure that the National Guard, presumably people who would be a bit more patriotic leaning by merit of being in the National Guard, would be willing to die for the Democratic Party.
Well, that's clearly a gamble that Waltz here is going to go through with.
I mean, we'll see how it turns out for him.
But all of us to say as well, just to come back to the fact that this is really just, I mean, obviously Reddit is, you know, a complete hive of scum and villainy, of course.
But the fact that this is the sort of antagonism that ICE officers are faced with every single day, and it's only fermenting more and more as time goes on.
And so I'm very, very worried for the officers on the ground here because they are dealing, frankly.
It is one, because you know what it is?
It's one thing to be an ICE officer and have to go into these communities, into these neighborhoods, to arrest and detain people who are already criminals, have broken into your country illegally, and who will actively fight back against you and harm you.
They've already broken the law by coming in.
You don't know what they're capable of doing.
That's one thing, right?
That's at least that comes with the territory of the job.
You know you're signing up for that.
But to have to constantly endure all of this from your own citizenry as well, because you are left lunatics.
Like the fact that they'd constantly, even in their everyday life, have to be, you know, keeping an eye out for their surroundings.
That kind of work and that kind of atmosphere, for anyone who's done it, I haven't, but from what I've heard, drives people a bit mad.
And understandably so, because you're under constant threat and that's a great way to degrade someone to the point where they're not the same anymore.
And so really all of this comes down to the fact that the left are desperately trying to make a martyr of Renee.
And to be honest with you, given her actions and what she was doing, perhaps it's a little rude of me to say, but I think she'd have been in favor of it.
After all, there is a reason she was there in the first place.
She obviously was in favor of everything that these people are doing to obstruct what ICE are after.
But also as well, this fraying of America, bearing in mind as well, they want complete sympathy for this woman, even though she did absolutely everything she could to endanger her own life and sadly lost it as a result.
But all of this is after Charlie Kirk and the way that they dealt with that and the rhetoric we saw from them there, which was absolutely reprehensible.
And you notice as well, even though that I'm saying here and now that what this woman did actively led to what happened, I'm not celebrating it.
I'm not cheering it on.
This is a total tragedy.
But we can acknowledge that it's the left who consistently initiate violence.
Yes, it absolutely is.
And that was what it was here, what they were doing.
And obviously there've been a lot of memes going around about this because they're basically trying to make her into a George Floyd type figure.
And so irrespective of any criticisms that I might have of the Trump administration, I do think that it is at least good that we have a Republican-led administration right now so that ICE and its officers can get the full backing of the federal government and that their officers who are constantly day in, day out, putting themselves in jeopardy and in harm's way in order to create a safer America are obviously being supported from the very top.
Just another thing to add as well, that this comes not long after that recent attempted break into JD Vance's house as well.
Oh, I missed that one.
Oh, yeah.
Someone tried to break into his house.
He wasn't.
How did that end for him?
You know what?
I didn't actually follow up on the story, but I just knew he was arrested.
Right, okay.
Yeah, it was a kid with sort of Reddit physiognomy.
There we go.
Looked a little bit mentally ill.
A spiteful mutant.
Yes.
And so honestly, I think that Zuma had the best take on this, which was just a wife and mother, a life completely wasted because of leftist ideology corrupting her brain.
That ridiculous flag in the bio is an indication of what killed her.
There is now a child without a mother because of what this woman was brainwashed into doing.
A hundred years ago, I'm sure she would have been a very good person.
Completely misplaced compassion.
A senseless waste.
A senseless waste indeed.
All right.
I'll just go through the rumble rants.
Logan Pine says, for having three-quarters of the political system against them, hats off for getting anything done by ICE.
Well, I mean, I agree.
You know, as I say, for the actual officers on the ground who are actually doing the work, I commend them greatly.
It's just a shame that the whole apparatus of the state can't be marshalled to actually help them with all of this, seemingly because of reluctance on the part of people in there.
Luke 91 says, good day, everyone.
I'm sorry, but he peed me off by having to argue with some people.
I'm lying saying that she was trying to flee, even if she wasn't intentionally.
She nearly hit the guy anyway.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
That's random name says, we live and we, I think that should say learn.
This woman, yeah, learn the hard way.
Hopefully her children.
Yeah.
That's a meta-joke about Somalian.
Yes.
I shan't read the rest of it, but I take your point at random.
Luke also says, could Trump use the same argument Biden did to stop Texas from defending the border to basically tell other states that they have no power?
Sorry, just a dumb question from Photos, an Australian.
Well, I do know that Trump, I saw footage of Trump basically pondering on whether or not to invoke the Insurrection Act, which obviously, from my point of view, what are you waiting for?
Because it's that thing as well, you can't allow these people like Frey, like Waltz, like Mamdani, to basically just, what are we going to do?
We're just going to allow them to endanger the lives of citizens in perpetuity.
When you think of cleaning power.
When you think of Ukraine, you can't explain why the Democrat Party and all of its operative members are not in El Salvador-style prisons.
No, I mean, this is the thing.
They are actively betraying the nation.
Proudly, they say it.
They say we are seceding from the United States.
We are going where you cannot touch us.
We are going to call out the National Guard.
We are going to protect this state from you.
I think this is my opinion on it, that Trump's making a cynical ploy that if he does that sort of thing, it reduces his political capital and he becomes what the left says he will become, at least in their minds.
And therefore, he can do less things.
And he's looking for a way in which he doesn't have to, you know, cross that threshold, I think, potentially.
Potentially.
We'll have to see what the developments are.
Cranky Texan says, this dog won't hunt.
You can know George Floyd overdosed and still be upset by the selectively edited video.
This incident is a clear case of an officer with a reasonable fear for his life.
Absolutely.
Josephus Scribe says, Minnesotan here, majority of my co-workers today are saying just comply, but there's a handful that are shouting, he wasn't in danger, or even he's a murderer.
Showing them the video doesn't work.
No, it absolutely doesn't.
You know, that's really the point of this.
Most people had already decided which side they were coming down in terms of the actual incident itself before they'd even watched the video, or even just after watching it once, because it's entirely partisan.
But, you know, as with so many things, as with the case with George Floyd, as with the case now, it just so happens, whenever incidents like this seem to take place, the facts do generally seem to come down on our side.
The truth does actually just seem to be something that we have with us.
Okin Ochigador, thank you for making me pronounce that, says, if we said he was a good and compassionate father about Charlie Kirk, would they put out the same articles?
No, we know that.
And the Engaged View says, man-mauled by Tiger is a tragic headline.
Man-mauled by Tiger after climbing into cage and trying to snuggle is a case of, you know, what did you think was going to happen?
I will just say that before we move on as well.
I was looking through, obviously, all the articles and the takes about this from the mainstream papers, and it was all just, you know, I shoot woman, not the fact that she was basically doing things to get herself shot, right?
You can tell the whole trajectory of trying to let this go in, so don't let them.
So I'm sure you're all familiar with the story going around at the moment about West Midlands police.
And we covered it on the podcast yesterday.
I'll play a clip of that in a second to anchor this.
I don't really want to talk about what happened.
I want to talk about why it happened.
But the sort of standard take on this is outrage from all spectrums of British political life.
So what are these police doing?
Why are they doing it?
And the very short summary is that basically there was going to be a football match and they knew that the Islamic population of whatever town it was were going to use violence against the Israeli supporters who were coming over for this football match.
And so they banned the Israelis.
They didn't attempt to address the Islamic bedrock of violence that they got within their town.
And it all kicked off over this clip.
And I'll play the segment from yesterday's podcast so you get a sense of what's going on just in case you missed that segment.
You can hang your head in shame like I find to.
And the challenge around risk decision making is public safety has got to be at the heart of it.
So again, I understand the frustration, but there is no conspiracy here.
This was a decision based on safety.
So why are we only hearing about this now?
Why is it that a report has come at lunchtime today from the Times newspaper that you had information on the 5th of September that there were likely to be vigilante groups within the West Midlands community itself who were planning to take action against the Maccavey fans?
How is it that this committee is just hearing this for the first time?
Well, I think this is the first time specifically that you've asked for that detail.
That's what we tried.
That's what we tried to get across.
Absolutely.
This is the first time that you.
I think to be clear, we have wanted to get to the bottom of this and understand why the decision was taken that you did.
We would like very much for you to be able to to demonstrate to us that this was done entirely on a risk based matter, the public safety, et cetera, et cetera.
And it is very frustrating if there is information that could help you in that that doesn't come to light upfront.
And I don't think we should have to ask specifically for every single piece of information if you have things that you could give us that would assist us in this process.
So the police were trying to save face for Muslims in Birmingham.
That is the long and short of it, ladies and gents.
I'm sorry, I had to build this picture for you.
The police, the police, the West Midlands police, they had evidence that armed vigilantes, Muslims, were going to go start assaulting footy fans in the middle of the street.
Yeah.
And they buried it and they framed it.
Again, I don't care about Israel, but they framed it as the Israelis to save face for their community.
So no one specifically asked them if they were doing that.
And so they did.
Right.
So you get the idea.
Just a good little Lotus podcast section there.
Yes.
Yes.
If only they were playing a link of us back again or something.
Three levels of.
So my challenge on this, and you might think this is a bit heretical at first, but I want to kind of justify.
I am not saying that that police dude is a good dude.
I'm not saying that.
What I'm saying is I have some sympathy for him.
Some sympathy.
And the reason I'm saying that is because the police are downstream of a lot of things that cause this situation to take place.
They are downstream of the elite moral doctrine for a start.
They do not set immigration policy.
No, they have to work within that framework set for them.
They do not shape the demographic composition of this country or the city that they operate in.
They do not define the doctrine of which multiculturalism operates under.
And they have no control, of course, over the spillover from foreign conflicts going on around the world.
They're downstream of all of that.
Now, again, I am not saying that the police are good guys.
What I'm saying is, is that if you were not on board with that whole agenda, you never would have risen up the ranks to be chief superintendent in the first place.
So effectively, what I'm saying is, is that the politicians have, they're like engineers, right?
And they've built a factory, and that factory has been designed to produce little red boxes.
And for the last 30 years, they've been optimizing that factory to produce as many little red boxes as possible.
They've tweaked every input, every assumption, every bit of machinery to get as many red boxes as possible.
And little red boxes have been flowing off that production line dozens, hundreds a day for the last 30 years.
And then all of a sudden, what they've done is they've shrieked in horror, pointed at a little red box and said, why did that happen?
And the foreman is just he doesn't know what to say to that.
He's like, well, yeah, but you never asked before.
I actually think that's a bloody good defense.
His job is to make sure that those questions never get up to the politician level because anyone who has ever attempted to address that question before has been fired or called racist or hounded out of society.
Tell me I'm not mad here.
The things I've heard from the police, like the things that they get disciplined for.
Yes.
I've heard things about people with mugs with just silly slogans on that everyone would take as a joke, but it could be offensive to someone.
Therefore, you either have to get rid of the mug or you face disciplinary action.
Or you make an offhand comment.
I heard something about someone who was complaining that one of their co-workers got some time off in a jokey way.
Just like, oh, then they called her the B word as a joke.
And then that's taken up as a sex and it sexism thing, even though it's like, but we're friends.
It's like a joke.
It's like, oh, she's got the time off.
But someone else reported it.
And supposedly, to get promoted, you've actually got to rat out your colleagues.
And that really helps.
So you can't get past a certain threshold without ratting out your colleagues.
So it's built into the system to be.
So it is the commissariat.
Yes.
There are people who have risen the ranks just by being as selfish as humanly possible and having no camaraderie, which for a police force is, you know, devastating.
And you see the sort of people, I mean, you know, two on the bounce, wasn't it, with the net between Cressida Dick and now Sir Mark Rowley.
You know, these are people entirely beholden and believers in.
The chances of getting a based chief of the Met.
It literally could not happen.
And this is what you're saying, isn't it?
Yeah.
This is designed to prevent it, isn't it?
That was a good anecdote.
Let me give you another anecdote.
And this is an old one.
This is like 15 years ago.
I was speaking to some guy, and he was, I think, an inspector, whatever rank when you get your own police station, right?
I think it was Inspector.
And he was a high achiever.
He was getting superb results.
And so he had a visit from whatever is above that to basically come and pat him on the back and ask him about what he's doing and stuff like that.
So he's a high-achieving officer of this, whatever it was, town region.
And one of the things he had done is that he had got printed out on A4 the mugshots of the 50 most prolific criminals in those towns.
And then inside the station, so the bit where only officers go, he had taped all of these 50 profiles, these mugshots to the wall with a name.
The idea being is that every day the police would walk past these and just internalize name and face.
And that is obviously useful if you're doing law enforcement in this town.
So the senior officer, he walks in and he looks at this in horror and he says, why have you got 50 black men taped to the wall?
And he's like, well, no, it's not because of that.
These just happen to be, for whatever reason, don't know what that is.
But for whatever reason, those happen to be the 50 most prolific criminals in the town.
That's why I'm doing it.
What are the odds?
Yeah, I mean, doing my job.
I don't know how that happened, but you know, obviously, you know, bizarre things can happen if you play them out enough times.
And basically, the senior officer was horrified by this and made him take them down right then himself.
Right there and then.
He said, you take those down right now.
And this guy was saying that despite the fact that he was a high achievement and his stats and whatever, he blah, blah, blah, blah, stats, stats.
So I didn't really pay attention to that.
But anyway, angel hotfalls levels of police.
But high performance.
He said, from that moment on, my career stopped.
And from then on, and he eventually gotten out by the time I had this conversation.
And like I said, this was a good 15 years ago, right?
And he was saying, yeah, after that, I watched again and again as less capable, less qualified people were promoted above me.
So what I'm saying is, the police have designed a system where you cannot have baseness at the top.
You have to have appeasers.
have to have people who implicitly understand your job is to make sure that multiculturalism is not exposed and what i think this west middleton police policing multiculturalism day in day out Yes, I think what this West Midlands police did is exactly what was expected of him.
And the funny thing is as well, lots of people in the police, I spoke to people in multiple different police forces across the country and figured out basically the mood of lots of them.
Loads of them privately don't believe in any of this stuff and go along with it because the reality of their day-to-day is we're coming across the same type of people.
And, you know, particularly, you know, if it's a black person stopped in a car, for example, they're going to be like, you pulled me over because I'm because you're racist.
I'm going to file a complaint against you.
And they say that it does make their job more difficult because their higher-ups put lots of rakes out for them to step on.
Because at the end of the day, they're looking at it from their perspective of, well, I'm going to do everything in my power to prove to you the benevolent, politically correct lords that we've got to appease that I have tried to sort of worm out every single person that could possibly have a problem with this order.
Yeah, the DEI as a doctrine.
But the problem is that the reality of the situation is also the thing that is reinforcing these ideas to the people on the ground because they're just like, hang on a minute, this is like the ninth person today of this demographic background that's done this sort of thing.
This is obviously a pattern.
Yes.
But they can't voice these patterns.
And it's a pattern that doesn't quite require Sherlock Holmes.
It doesn't.
It just requires two functioning sets of eyes.
Yes.
I quite enjoy the image of Sherlock Holmes going up against the woke police establishment, to be honest with you.
I think there's definitely a novel in there, modern retelling.
Yeah, I mean, essentially, what I'm saying is the system itself is broken here.
Yeah, I mean, and look, if you want a better governing doctrine, it starts with learning what the faults of this system are and how you can improve it.
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I hope that was anyway.
No, moving back to it.
Policing in Britain, it's pure state capacity at this point.
It's the reason the reason why you basically shunted off these and I hold no water for whatever.
I'm not, I'm neutral on Israel, so that doesn't matter why.
But they shunted off the Israelis because it was easier than dealing with the Muslims.
Yes.
And that's what it is.
So equality before the law.
But also, if I may just say as well, perhaps that shunting off of the Israelis is a liberty and concern for the safety of the Israelis that would not have been extended to average, you know, white working class English.
Yeah, possibly fans.
Possibly, yeah, if they had intelligence that it was the white working class population was going to be attacked, possibly they would just ignore.
There is a curious question, which I haven't quite got my head around.
But why do politicians only seem to care when it's one particular group?
Well, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't get that.
I touched on this a little bit on Tuesday where the was it?
What's his name?
Alif Al-Fatah or whatever, this Egyptian activist who'd put out loads of posts talking about how he wants to not only kill all white people, but also Jewish people as well.
And, you know, a betting man can guess which one, which very small minority of the population the state journalists, you know, career politicians talked about whilst the white majority, you know, you never would have known that had you not gone on Twitter or seen maybe one post by Robert Jenrick who only posted that after he got heckled for talking about anti-Semitism rather than hang on a minute, we're still a white majority country here.
How about you know, you address the majority concern that this guy hates the people that have granted him citizenship.
I mean, it kind of ties into the whole theme that equality before the law has become obsolete.
I mean, it's an acronym.
It can't do equality before the law.
There's no such thing anymore, is there?
It's long gone.
All it can do is assess asymmetric threats.
And what I mean by that is that if one population is willing to be more violent than the other, then of course you cannot have symmetrical policing.
You're going to have to do it because, you know, let's say that we had a, I mean, not that you could ever get a base chief constable.
I mean, it's structurally designed that that couldn't be done.
But even if you did, you've still got the capacity issue of the fifth column in your population is so large.
You're going to need a lot more officers if you want to do proper policing.
If you want to say, no, we're doing the bloody match and we're going to flood the zone.
And if anyone is acting up, we're going to go after them.
If anyone is hoarding weapons in a building of some description, you know, whatever that building might be, whatever it's used for, yeah, we're going to investigate that and we're going to tackle it and we're going to deal with it.
Violates every single multiple cultural assumption that we have.
And honestly, what that clip did is it just pissed me off that politicians are acting shocked.
Yeah.
Why the hell are you acting shocked?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, there was a time in British history where the opportunity to flush out criminals was actually taken with a certain degree of glee from the police because, you know, if there's some sort of event going on, like back in the day, maybe there was a large fair coming to town where there'd be lots of people to maybe steal from and it flushes out the criminals.
Well, that's a great opportunity for the police to catch them and then lower the overall rate of crime.
So in an ideal scenario, these sorts of events that are inevitably going to crop up should be used as nets to scoop up people that would otherwise be causing problems.
But instead, they're doing the opposite and they're appeasing these people.
We saw the same thing in the Southport riots when they were saying, please put your weapons in your mosque when they were arresting white British people for social media posts at the same time.
And so it's obvious that there is this differential treatment.
And it's because they're afraid, because the Muslims are far more willing to be violent, both in terms of explosives, with sharp fire.
Therefore, they get policed differently.
They do.
And they defer to them in a way.
They treat them better because they know that if they antagonize them, then they will do something.
Well, their engagements with us are antagonistic.
Their engagements with them are apologetic.
They're appeasing them, really.
They're giving them power by also differentially policing us.
But I think we've found ourselves, we've got ourselves in a system where the system of Britain, the way it's governed, can only produce outcomes that violates everybody's moral intuition.
And it carries on doing it anyway because it cannot reform itself.
And speaking of reform, this is my big concern with reform coming into government soon, is I don't think they understand that they need to replace the entire governance doctrine which this country operates on.
They think they can just change the managers.
And that is wrong.
And I'll try and explain why that's wrong.
It's because managers do not, managers operate within a remit of rules.
And I've done some business consultancy and VC work.
Well, I've gone into businesses.
And a common problem that I identify when I go into them is that you have people sitting at the director level of the organization who don't actually understand what a director is.
A director is not a manager plus, but you promote people from manager to director and they don't understand the job and they think their job is to be a micromanager of the managers below them and anything like that.
It's not.
Your job is to set the, I mean, literally in the name, the direction.
You're to set the remit and the doctrine of the organization, which the managers then follow.
And if anything, that is the most common problem that I've ever seen going into a business.
I don't think reform understands this.
I don't think they understand they need to change the whole governance doctrine.
It has to be, you know, they need to be able to define which outcomes are allowed, right?
Which outcomes are pursued, which risks are career-ending.
And even as something as simple, and I think one of you hinted at this earlier with one of your police story, it's, you know, just establish what can be named.
Simple as that.
What can be named?
Because at the moment, all of these problems, I mean, we talked to them, but nobody within the hierarchy of the power structure, the systems of this country can name any of them.
And also, you know, the police should be able to identify the patterns that we identify of who's committing the crimes.
We know that it's largely people from sub-Saharan Africa in ethnicity and the Middle East in the European context in particular.
And that's what the data suggests.
That's what our exposure to the news story suggests.
That's what personal anecdotes suggest.
And yet you can't address this effectively.
And they're actually, they have their hands tied addressing the source of the problems because, of course, it looks bad.
But there's a very succinct way of describing the problem that you've got there that reform are going to face, which is you can replace a node in a system, but the system still functions as it does, right?
You can replace all the components, but the structure of the system will still remain.
Don't change nodes, change protocols.
Well, you know, just as an example as well, this entire drive for diversity within the British police force is all, you know, or at least it's sold on the proposition that, well, we need greater diversity in the police force because certain communities want to be policed by people who look like them.
It's like, okay, well, all the more reason why they shouldn't be here in the first place.
And it's just an extra reason.
If they refused to be policed by British people in Britain, then again, that's a pretty damning indictment of them.
And it's, as you say, but reform aren't going to deal with that.
They're going to bring in, you know, a tougher, you know, superintendent, whatever it might be.
They're not going to address the fact that you have entire communities in our cities that are actively opposed to being policed at all.
Yeah.
I mean, I'll end on this anecdote.
Just before this podcast, we're doing a roundtable later this afternoon.
Just before this, we did this podcast, one of our editors came to me and he said, look, he's making the thumbnail for that roundtable.
And he's reviewed his entire photo log, and he can't find a single photo of me looking serious.
And I said, well, yeah, but that's because this country has been so absurd for so long that it easily predates my working with the Lotus Eaters.
I just can't take this stuff seriously.
It's an absolute clown show, top and bottom.
And yet, and we've now got politicians pretending that they're shocked because exactly the thing they designed happened.
I don't know.
Anyway, we'll leave it there.
According to 141 Paladin for generous £20, hey Dan, I saw your Brokenomics talk on AI.
My tech friend tells me that because they get substandard foreign programmers and obsessively use AI, they have increasingly bad programs.
Yes, well, I suppose that's on your tech friends' bosses for hiring the wrong people, I guess.
I've been looking into that actually, and it's so very widespread.
It's like the finally tech has been opened up to the third world, and we're going to be increasingly frustrated.
We're going to see current times where my laptop mostly functions, although I did have to restart it at the beginning of this podcast, as a sort of golden age, and things are only going to get worse in that respect because they're going to have infinite Indians and infinite AI working on it.
And now, I mean, literally, I mean, to the point where I could get a programming job.
I don't know anything about programming, but I could get a programming job.
So, obviously, everybody in a hut in Malaysia is going to do that.
And the problem is for somebody who doesn't know any programming is you could AI is good enough that you can get away with it most of the time until it doesn't work, and then you won't have a clue what to do.
I mean, if your code is 98% perfect, it's still not good enough.
Yes.
Luke Saint 91 says, We don't want them here.
Thrush them somewhere else.
Australia already has its own problems with these people on the bright side.
Prime Minister has decided he wants to do a royal commission now.
I saw that about anti-Semitism, isn't it?
Yes, we need a new Australia.
Somewhere we can take criminals to.
I don't know, maybe Madagascar or something.
I don't know.
Greenland.
I hear it's going to have new ownership soon.
Get a shot of them.
Send them all there.
Yeah, there must be someone.
These are some patriotic Americans.
There you are, Mr. Trump.
I'm joking, of course.
I need my memorabilia.
Thank you.
So, in November of 2026, which is this year now, there is going to be a new governor in Florida.
I'm not going to call it a gubernatorial election because gubernatorial is a silly word.
But Ron DeSantis presumably is not seeking re-election.
I've not seen anything about it.
And presumably, that means that someone can step up into his position and assume quite a powerful seat in American politics.
And I'm going to use this race as a sort of commentary on the shifting nature of the American right because there's a person who I'm going to talk about in a little bit who doesn't seem to tie in particularly nicely with the current audience.
Can I just say I'm really surprised about this?
Because it wasn't that long ago that Ron DeSantis was the shit.
I know.
He did still do a good job as governor.
There's no doubt about that.
It's because he went up against Trump, didn't he?
And he lost a bit of support.
And I don't know what he's going to go on to.
He's probably got some bright future ahead of him because I think privately him and Trump probably do get on.
But that's besides the point because at the minute, the two people that are being discussed to potentially replace him are Casey DeSantis, his wife, who is interesting, sort of very dynastic.
But also Byron Donalds, who's got the Trump endorsement, which if you're somewhat of a detective, is the person on the right there, just in case you needed it pointed out.
And DeSantis did say in February of last year that his wife is not seeking the governor bid.
So maybe people are getting ahead of themselves.
So the two people before were the people who were likely to get the candidacy.
That's DeSantis's wife, who people were speculating might run, but she's not said anything.
And who's the other guy?
I've that one.
And he is Byron Donalds, who is a high-maintenance haircut.
I mean, how often does he get his haircut?
I mean, like a lot by the hourly?
That alone should disqualify him, I think.
He's too focused on his barber.
But anyway, there is another person that is being discussed, perhaps the most discussed, despite Trump endorsing someone else.
And it is this guy.
So he's called James Fishback.
And he was born in 1995, which makes him almost the same age as me.
We're born in the same year.
And so this is a much younger man.
And it's interesting what his politics are.
In fact, it sort of sounds like many of the things that he's saying here, whether you believe him or not, he's still a politician, don't forget, sound like things that we might have said.
And I found this particularly interesting because this is, you know, he's running as a Republican.
This is very, very different than what Trump would want as a governor doing.
It's different than anything Ron DeSantis would have done.
That's true.
As Florida governor, I will divest the entire $385 million currently invested in Israeli government bonds and launch a $385 million down payment assistance program to help married Florida couples buy their first home.
Which, to my ears, if I were a Floridian, I'd say that sounds pretty good.
Sounds like a more efficient use of resources to me.
Sounds like putting Florida first.
It does.
It's a good idea.
I think getting people on the housing market is probably a good idea, particularly considering how difficult it is because it's the only thing that marches forward.
That's proper Zubawaffen stuff.
I like this.
I mean, he's a millennial, though, isn't he?
Yeah, he's saying that.
You can forgive him for that, though.
We can't choose when we're born.
No.
Yes, he's a 1995 like myself, so it's a good year, vintage year.
And the funny thing is, he posted this, and then the Israeli state media and Netanyahu said they were most concerned about him running.
I'm sure they are.
And yeah, he said, I am not suicidal.
And they called him a threat to US aid to Israel.
Oh, this whole thing is blowing up America, isn't it?
And look at how well it did.
Have you ever heard of a governor?
Or even, you know, a potential governor.
So I saw this tweet, but I didn't have the context.
So what the hell is he talking about?
But okay, this makes a lot of sense now.
Yes.
But this sort of thing was unprecedented before, isn't it?
And because of the split within the right in America between the neocons I'll do anything for Israel lobby.
Honestly, as recent as 18 months ago, if you were on the right, you could not go anywhere near this.
Yeah.
No, absolutely.
But no, the landscape has shifted.
It's easier to talk about this sort of thing.
Well, what's more as well, the groundwork is laid perfectly because Ron DeSantis has done such a good job of cementing Florida as a red state.
But obviously, we saw that this guy has not got Trump's endorsement, right?
Brian Donalds has got it, so I suspect his politics are a little different.
The guy with the austere haircut are a little different.
You're forgetting for him, don't worry.
Yeah, but all this to say that it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if running off of this style of politics, Fishback doesn't end up hoovering up a bunch of Bernie Bro voters and those from the left as well.
He's become the most talked about candidate by far by using this sort of rhetoric.
And as soon as people cotton on, and maybe he already has, that, wow, this actually makes me quite popular talking in these sorts of terms.
And all of a sudden, this is going to be, dare I say, the new normal of American right-wing politics.
But I tell you what also doesn't fund Israel, Islander magazine.
The new edition is out, Islander number five.
It is another beautiful edition created by Rory.
It has all the big names in as it normally does.
It is a physical piece of media.
It will never be expunged from the internet.
You can own this forever and you will be happy.
It even has a comic in this one, a short comic strip.
And all of it is beautiful.
I've not had a chance to read any of the articles yet because I only got it a couple of days ago.
But you should pick it up before it sells out.
Anyway, with that out of the way.
Here's another one.
So he's just talking about this sort of thing quite openly, which I find interesting.
Again, it's doing quite well.
I'll be the first to admit that I fell for that Israel is our greatest ally scam and that the lie that criticizing Israel is anti-Semitic.
It wasn't until I was offered a paid trip to Israel this summer, which I never took, that I realized how cringe and pathetic the propaganda was.
I'll never pretend to be someone I'm not.
I don't delete old tweets.
You deserve to see how my views have changed over time.
I haven't been offered.
Where's my seven grand?
Yeah, I've been offered it.
I haven't.
I'm sort of annoyed.
You, Luca?
No?
Maybe it's wrong address.
If you want to give me a free holiday, Israel's not the top of my list.
If you can send money maybe to the Caribbean somewhere.
Somewhere nice and sunny.
It's winter at the minute.
It's icy outside.
But anyway.
He's also said things like this, where he just says white lives matter.
It's nice to hear it.
I agree, James.
I agree.
It's nice to hear this.
Like genocide is real.
And we need to stop pretending it's not.
And then he shared a screenshot, which also includes someone saying, where are the white people being killed?
And then someone else says, trains, subways, minority neighborhoods, school track meets.
I am seriously tempted to move to Florida just so I could vote for this guy.
But it's nice to see this sort of thing being said because beforehand it was people in podcasts saying this sort of thing and not actual people running for office.
It goes to show the awesome power of being on a podcast, doesn't it?
Why would you want to demote yourself down to the level of being a politician when you can have this much power and set the narrative?
Everyone seems to talk about politicians being controlled by other people, but really it's podcasters.
Yes.
But that's the original tweet there, which also did very well.
6.3 million views.
He's cutting through quite a lot for someone who is not necessarily regime endorsed.
I really trump regime.
To be honest with you, I do really want Brian Donalds to try and map your Brian Donald's white genocide.
It's real.
Byron Donalds, you're anglicising him.
Oh, dear me.
Well, I'll better stop that in the next one.
He's going to be white.
So here we go.
The great replacement of Americans is real.
I'm running for governor to stop and reverse it.
That's pretty bold.
I'm very impressed so far.
So here is another one.
I'm running for Florida governor because we need remigration now, re-migration tomorrow, remigration forever.
I'm turning up, you know.
Oh, it's incredible.
It's nice to see this sort of thing.
Not that I'm smug or anything.
We spent years saying, why don't politicians just do this?
And then look at it and become.
And now a politician is just doing this.
I mean, we saw it with Rupert Lowe, didn't we?
He's now, you know, amongst the right, one of the best regarded people in parliament.
Yeah.
Certainly, in my opinion.
The bright future of Florida, there is only re-migration.
That's essentially what he's saying.
It's nice to see.
New GTA is going to be great.
And this is like it's taken straight from our very mouths.
The neocons and the line go up Republicans must be fired and replaced with America First Patriots.
Line go up.
That is from our sphere.
That's what we say, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It's just our language being used.
It's nice.
Thank you.
Have we checked our database to see if he's a subscriber?
If you're watching this, good work.
But no, that is perfectly on point.
Yes, the neocons and the line got Republicans are the ones driving many of the problems and that you need to put the United States above this.
This particularly the aid to specific nations outside of your continent.
And this was also a very good idea.
How about banning Blackstone from buying single-family homes?
As governor, I will in Florida.
Homes are for families, not private equity.
Great thing that's pushing up the price of houses unnecessarily.
Good idea.
Unequivocally pro-citizenry over international capital.
It's once again.
It's so sensible.
You'd look like a madman, you know, to like say we shouldn't do this.
We shouldn't follow this roadmap.
What a contrast between the last segment, the one that I did, about the system is incapable of producing good results and you've got to place the doctrine.
This is the doctrine.
This is the new doctrine that will make things work.
And the interesting thing is that his main competitor at the minute, Byron Donalds, came to America or Florida.
I don't know which one it is.
18 years old and managed to get himself arrested twice in three years.
And also, because he's in Congress at the minute, increased the felony theft threshold from 300 to 1,000.
And as a black guy, I feel like being tied to theft and crime is perhaps not the best thing to help your ticket.
I don't know.
I don't think it's a vote.
Well, maybe it is a vote winner amongst some constituents, but I'm thinking that.
They are still a minority in Florida.
You can't see it, but my head is cycling through multiple comments.
so many comments and every single one of those no you can't say that on the podcast yeah Yeah.
And another thing that Byron Donalds did was call for the persecution of the January 6th protester who was just taking a photo of himself at Pelosi's Lectern.
They're not even one of the ones that was attacking the Capitol Police.
Someone who was just in the building taking pictures.
One of the people probably staying between the velvet lines or the ropes.
Oh, you mean one of those guys that asked the police, can we come in?
And were told yes.
Oh, I see.
Okay, yeah, prosecute them.
And the difference here is on January 6th of this year, it's January 6th.
Five years ago, we witnessed a peaceful protest that was willfully distorted to politically persecute innocent Americans.
I'm running for Florida governor to protect our justice system from political persecution.
That's perfectly framed to galvanise the Republican base.
The Republican base don't really want to throw lots of the January 6thers under the bus.
And in fact, Trump pardoned them.
So even this is more in keeping with the sort of spirit of Trump's will talking about.
I love the clarity on this.
There's none of the ambiguity and the hedging.
This is moral consistency.
But I've not given you the best one yet.
So don't read the caption.
Just watch the video.
There is a fork in the road.
I told that to Vivek and he said, what's a fork?
but look it's weird We're all wearing shoes.
It's weird.
We do that in our country.
Exactly.
We wear shoes.
It would be weird.
God, it's a good job.
You didn't see that.
So he's also seemingly got some charisma as well.
Yeah, yeah.
Memobility which carries you far in this day and age, and teasing Vivek, who obviously has lost a lot of favour amongst Republicans these days for being very condescending and talking down to Americans, and he looks like American Psycho, but I think that's also a point in his favour possibly yeah, the Floridian psycho, yeah.
So another thing which uh caught my interest was um yes, in this same uh event where he was talking to people who supported him, he laid out his proposal to end homelessness.
If elected, and he said on day one, I'm deploying the National Guard all over Florida to clean up our streets and remove the homeless.
Which interesting turn of phrase there, remove the homeless, wonder what's going to happen.
Well, to be fair, that's just copying Gavin Newsom's policy, isn't it, whenever the Chinese pop over to California, except without waiting for the Chinese dictators to come over.
It's also worth mentioning as well that this isn't all just in my head.
His video which announced his campaign for governor got seven million views and for someone who I hadn't heard of him until his, his campaign took off, it's gone rather quickly, I would say, and he's got till November of this year.
Yeah, to keep snowballing it.
So, if nothing else, even if he doesn't win.
I think it can snowball into a career in politics here.
Just whether the Trump administration is going to work very hard to keep him out, because I imagine some key allies of Donald Trump are not going to like some of his lines about certain things.
But your kids are going to love it, exactly perfect.
Back to the future.
Reference there.
And here's another thing, he's saying talking about H-1Bs.
He's saying talking about young Americans.
They fear they won't ever get a great paying job because Google Amazon, META and Apple are importing Indians to replace them.
Perfect yes, very true.
And he's also been on Tucker recently, which is only going to help amplify him.
Tucker's looking very old.
There isn't everyone's talking about that gaunt Connolly sort of.
Isn't he the neck there?
Maybe he sucked the lemon shortly before, but it's interesting as well as this.
I thought this was very interesting that he just says, agreed to Nick Fuentes, not afraid to do that, which is interesting, but don't get too excited because there are some things that haven't been.
There are some things that are unresolved or questionable.
Perhaps there was this from NBC, Florida school district cut ties with GOP candidate James Fishback in 2022 over sexual misconduct allegations.
So you think, oh no, this is unfortunate, but he points out that that same school was posting about him and his organization in 2025 and apparently it's nothing to do with that and it's just a false claim.
That's what he says, but it's a potential shadow over him.
They did this to break.
They do, aren't they?
Yeah, I'm not saying it's legit, but because he's just new on the scene, we don't know yet.
So I'm just telling people to look into it.
Sure, and there's also some other things.
There are people attacking him here, saying that actually he's attacking Vivek, but he's posted before.
You know, I'm honored to feature in team Vivek community great read on why I founded the debate thing.
But then that could just be him.
He's got this organization.
He's saying thank you for working with me Doesn't necessarily mean he was endorsing him.
To be fair, vet looked alright a few years ago.
Yeah.
But there are lots of people saying that he's just grifting and it's not genuine because he's changed his mind.
I'll leave that up to people in the audience to make up their minds about.
Even if it is, even if it is a griff, though, it sets an expectation for voters for the sorts of policies.
That's exactly why I did this segment in the first place.
Is regardless of what you think of his character or whether it's genuine, the fact that this is being said, it's doing well and it's for a pretty important position in American politics is a very telling thing that wouldn't have happened even five years ago.
And this seems to be the direction in which part of American politics is going, regardless of what Trump or the Democrats want.
And it does seem to be resonating with people in a way that the neocon right-wing talking points simply aren't.
And there are a few other things here.
Apparently, he was endorsing H1Bs at one point.
This is the Vivek thing where he's talking about the American culture which prizes jocks over nerds, that one, which Harry rightfully mocked when it came out.
And I don't know what he's exactly agreeing with there because there's lots of different things.
Again, it's two years ago.
I mean, this guy is.
I mean, he was only born in 1995.
He's a young lad.
Oh, thank you.
Yes.
I mean, even at bloody my age, I'm still changing my views from two years ago.
I mean, that's just normal.
I mean, this doesn't show necessarily there's anything wrong.
It just shows he's evolving.
Well, where do you go from here?
I mean, you're already based enough, are you not?
How do you get more baseness?
Oh, just glowing with baseness, I would hope.
And there's also someone here, notice the commonality in some of their names, talking about how he owes money to the courts.
A quarter of a million against him and his personal assets and failure to repay loans.
And he's got some sort of thing here.
It does seem to be legit.
But at the same time, it depends what you make of this.
Maybe he's not very good with his own finances because there was a business-related thing.
There's not necessarily an explanation, but many business people that I've known that have been very wealthy out of the end of it went through periods of time when they're in large amounts of debt on paper, but then they had the assets to pay for it.
Who knows what the situation is, but it's something that people have been pulling up.
And apparently, US marshals have repoed his Tesla because he owes over 200k in civil penalties.
I don't know what this is all about, but I just wanted to bring this up as a sort of bit of transparency because I don't want to just seem like I'm a cheerleader of this guy.
I'm bringing him up because of the rhetoric he's voicing, not because I think, you know, this is the guy.
And so I want to.
Yeah, no, stop that.
I'm cheerleading him.
This is the guy.
I mean, a lot of what he said, if that's going to translate into action in office, then I would support him over the other alternatives.
But I need to wait and see about his credibility as a person, see how he comes back against these sorts of attacks on him and whether he can weather these things.
Because you can also have a good candidate who says the right things, but they can't handle criticism very well, or they look bad in the media, and therefore they can't get as much done.
That's still an important aspect of it.
So I wouldn't encourage anyone to, you know, get too ahead of themselves, but keep an eye on it, wait and see what happens, stay informed.
And the promising thing is that this does seem to be a good line in the future of American politics.
It's good to see many of our talking points being voiced by American politicians running for pretty senior offices, and I hope to see more of it.
Absolutely.
Rise of the Zuma Waffen.
Cool.
Shall I go through your rumble rants or do you want me to?
Yeah, if you like.
My laptop's in the way a little bit.
Right, I'll...
So, we've got, um...
Oh, Cranky Texan says DeSantis is term limited.
Um...
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Logan Pine 17.
Go on in Samson, you do it.
When Trump leaves office, I truly believe that it'll feel like losing a king.
No one can replace him.
I don't know about that.
I think that Trump has done a lot of good, but he's clearly a man who, the more that time goes on, shows his limitations.
Yeah, I don't agree with that either.
He was a valuable catalyst.
Yeah, he's not the end state.
Yeah.
I think also he's got JD Vance, and he appointed him as his successor, seemingly, because he picked a very different person in his first term in Mike Pence.
And this time he's picked someone much younger, much less experienced to mold him rather than to benefit from his experience.
Yeah.
Bebipin 2 says, Carl Rittenhouse was crucified for crossing a state line a few miles away where he had family and worked and defended himself from two convicted pesos.
This professional protester crossed multiple states.
Yeah, no one cared about it.
They didn't care about it then, truthfully, and they don't care about it now.
Engaged Hugh just talks about the boldness of him running on a George Wallace sort of paraphrasing line.
Logan 17 Pine says, as much shade as we throw at Trump, we have to thank him for breaking the blanket of taboo over the right.
Yeah, and obviously, but Trump has taboos of his own, and, you know, we in turn are going to have to break those.
That's a random name says, for the past year or so, I've been steadily convinced that everything will pop off the moment the boomers are no longer in charge of the system, and that James Fishbank seems to be living proof of this.
Well, there is definitely a generational gap, isn't there?
I did think it was interesting that we're born in the same year and we have very similar views on things.
And he also says, the clip where Fishbank talks about Fuentes' followers in a positive light and then doubles down on that was very refreshing.
Interested to see if he wins, though he might get Clinton's.
Well, yeah, I'll be interested to see how it develops too.
All right, let's watch the video comments.
Given recent events, I want to recommend the movie The Wind and the Lion, which is loosely based out of the Perikaris affair where the warlord Razuli, played by Sean Connery, kidnaps a family of Americans and tries to leverage them over Teddy Roosevelt for diplomatic gains.
Hilarious scene in midway through the movie where the Americans get tired of dealing with the Sultan of Morocco and just march a bunch of Marines into the palace, parade formation, and just start shooting everybody and taking prison.
Adding it to the list.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
It sounds really interesting.
God, I would have loved to have seen Connery play the Ayatollah.
You imagine the Ayatollah just starting, oh, we should just give him a bit of a schmark, you know.
Right, next one.
After America's Freedom Yoink, I got inspired and asked Grok to create a plan to extract two fictional political leaders, Jeremy Crowe and Sarah Grape, from a fictional autonomous zone in Brighton, and it delivered tactical loadout, rules of engagement, contingencies, and an infiltration and extraction plan.
Then I asked it to write the event as a story, and it went hard.
You kidnapped me.
Touch me.
This is a war crime.
The ummah will know.
The people will rise.
The voice interrupted.
Patient.
The people are sleeping off the rain in Brighton.
Your liberated zone is already fraying without you.
You built it on Sam Sarah.
Now the tide's coming in.
That is a ladsaro.
I would read that entire novel.
I would do a chronicles on that novel.
I really would.
That would be terrific.
The pyramid doesn't work.
We've already tried it.
It's upside down.
What?
Sir.
The pyramid is upside down.
Turn the pyramid upside down.
It can't be serious.
That would put butter and fat at the top of the body.
THE DAMN FOOD PYRAMID Tell him to have some stake with his body.
Very good.
Yeah, I mean, exactly that, isn't it?
Yeah.
Is that all of them, Samson?
All right.
I'll go through some comments from my section.
Michael DeBelba says, the voters of Minnesota need to step up and vote right if they want their state and country to survive.
The left are treasonous.
It doesn't matter if they call themselves Labour or Democrats.
Well, to be honest with you, Michael, look, I share your opinion, but I'm just concerned that when it comes to the raw numbers in Minnesota, do most Minnesotans actually want their state and country to survive?
You know, I am a bit overwhelmed, to be honest with you, by the sheer numbers that come out to these sorts of things across the cities.
It's really concerning.
I do wonder how much Minnesotans think about hijacking oil tankers these days.
I don't know.
Are they landlocked?
I know, that's a good thing, really.
Right.
Anne E. Moss says, I feel for the people who lived on that street.
Already there is a makeshift altar where she was killed.
Also, in Minnesota, they've closed all the schools for Thursday and Friday so people have more time to protest or something.
Yeah, Lord and Quiz to Hector X says a very funny joke that I won't repeat.
AZ Desert Rat says, a second camera angle shows the car hitting that ice agent.
In the US, cars are considered a deadly weapon when they are used to run someone over.
Yeah, absolutely.
I've seen that angle myself, Rat, and you're right.
And then Anomaly says, how could they be writing in Minnesota when Palestine isn't free?
Well, they always have time to protest, Anomaly.
All right, do you want to go through your comments, Dan?
Yes, let's have a look.
Michael, I believe, Drive Berlby says, the West Midlands PD are taking pages from some Mark Rowley's chinless, feckless, ballist leadership.
It's disgusting to recognise police do have tools they can use to protect the public.
Yes.
Why is it that whenever you achieve a sufficient rank in any area of the British state, you start to look more and more like an old angry lesbian?
Or you are an old angry lesbian.
Sort of like, you know, how certain virtues have a sort of physiognomic ideal.
The virtues of the British state select for people who look like that.
It's sort of like a genetic funnel that creates more and more specific outcomes as time passes.
But Mark Rowley is the most.
If you don't know who I'm talking about, search Mark Rowley.
He's the most lesbian-looking man you've ever seen.
Kumbrakai Kulak says, Am I right in thinking Scotland have announced they get illegal migrants to be police?
I didn't know.
Is that true?
I have heard something along the lines of that.
I don't know who it was saying it.
I'll look into it more and I'll daily proper Soviet era stuff where you empty the jails and then you fill them up with dissidents and you use the people you just emptied out to be police.
If they're just like over, there you go.
Police the old firm between Celtic and Reynolds.
No, then the illegal migrant's going to come back more bruised than man.
White Ryder says, zero sympathy.
They do not need to operate under that paradigm.
They can resist.
Yeah, but that's kind of my point.
You would not have made it past the base level if you did resist.
The whole system said, he should have refused to be the foreman at the Red Box Factory in the first place.
Yeah.
Yeah, but he's not bait.
He is an enemy.
The system selects to make sure people are there.
There are people like that, and the system makes sure those are the ones who rise to the top.
Absolutely.
I had a friend who tried to join the Met.
I never quite understood why a few years ago.
But I know he'd done a really good job of it.
You know, there's a guy, you know, good height, works out every week, goes to a gym, good sense of justice and law and reason about him.
And he didn't even get the interview.
And then you see these like miniature women just sort of waddling about on the tubes and it's like, so they're, they're fine.
They're good.
But not my friend.
Completely ineffectual.
But I want to come back on this, White Rider, because you misunderstood what I'm saying.
I'm not saying I like the police.
What I'm saying is if you are attacking the police, you are attacking a node, not the protocol.
You need to take your annoyance and redirect it at the level where the doctrine is enforced, where things can actually change.
It's the governing doctrine of the country that needs to change.
It is not the individual nodes within it.
And if you focus your attention there, you're dealing with an expected outcome as opposed to a protocol which can change all subsequent outcomes.
And that's why I think it's important.
I hope that makes sense.
Annie E. Moss says, I'm looking at the action of West Midlands Police.
It appears that they and other police forces like the Met are trying to raise crimes to level that people cannot stand it.
I don't know if it's exactly that.
I just think it's like I said, the system cannot produce any outcome at this point which does not violate the moral precepts of everybody in the system, including people in the system and those of us who are outside.
That's what I think was going on.
Anyway.
Okay.
William Clifton says there is a similar political candidate in the US right now to that of James Fishback, Casey Putsch, who is running to be the Republican Party candidate in Ohio against Vivek Ramascami.
And is running a very similar campaign to James Fishback.
And North FC Zuma says, Dan's right, we all change views.
I took the bloody jab.
I was like 23 at the time.
Biggest mistake of my life.
Frank Herbert has a good quote about people who don't change their mind.
And I can't call to mind what that is.
I'm going to Google it while you haven't read June.
Mike Rodra Belbis also says Dan continuing to demonstrate his extreme levels of true baseness.
Thank you for noticing, sir.
Very honest.
And then an honorable mention from Andrew Wynn, who says, I ordered Islander issue five just now.
Oh, well, thank you.
Got caught out with number two, and I was one of the £250 eBay numpties.
At least I'll have the full set.
Well, yeah, very glad that you've got it.
And, you know, obviously that £250 you spent on it, it'll be worth thousands, absolutely hundreds of thousands maybe in a few years' time.
Until Venture Capital finds out about Irelander, because, you know, the return on investment there is massive.
In 3,000 years, there'll be a sort of remake of Raiders of the Lost Ark, except it'll be an islander on that little plint thing.
You can hear the John Williams theme playing in the background as you open its pages.
Also, just to say as well, and I'm sorry for not mentioning it earlier, this issue also comes complete with an interview with Rupert Lowe himself.
So we've got an interview with Rupert in this issue, as well as the amazing essays and articles in it.
So do consider going over to the website and buying it for $14.99 plus shipping, of course.
Okay, well, we've got a roundtable at three o'clock where we're going to be discussing how the elites maintain power.
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