The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1240

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	Good afternoon and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1240.
	I'm your host Harry, joined today by Beau.
	It's just a two man today, should be good, should be a bit more relaxed.
	We'll be talking about the sad and tragic Minneapolis school shooting, Elon Musk's new support of Rupert Lowe, and I'll be going over how you're not going to be able to sweep the Epstein case under the rug, no matter how much you try.
	People have been trying to for almost six years now, and we're not going to forget, and we certainly won't forgive.
	For all of you watching on YouTube, could you please, if you feel inclined send us in a super chat if you've got something that you want us to read we appreciate all of the support that you give us same with rumble rants and also don't forget to buy islander it is still available who knows how much longer they are in limited stock of course so pick one up for 14.99 whilst you still can one last thing before we kick off though if you are in or around London this weekend on Saturday
	please take the time to come down to see my band play you can find the event tickets on event bright under the stand-in strength charity concert my band The Mandrakes will be playing a charity set, raising money for charity that will go towards the victims of grooming and sexual abuse.
	And it'll be a really fun night.
	I'm not going to be the only Lotus Eaters guy there.
	There will be other people from the office.
	So you get the chance to enjoy some good music and have a chat with me and maybe meet some of the others.
	So please feel free to come down if you want and you can use my code LotusPass to get five or off the ticket.
	So it'll only be a tenor.
	There you go.
	Anything else we should add?
	Or have I got all of the shilling in?
	No, I think that's good.
	There we go.
	I've got my own channel HistoryPro, I've mentioned enough.
	And a new thing with Nate, the state of politics to another YouTube channel.
	There you go.
	He's not even here.
	Nate's not even here for once.
	And he's still getting a shout out on the channel.
	So, there you go.
	And with that, let's move on to something a bit less fun.
	So, a tragedy happened in America yesterday as a school in Minneapolis, the Annunciation Catholic School, was attacked by a deranged, probably schizophrenic, insane, evil school shooter who managed to gun twenty people down.
	One of them including himself, thankfully.
	But 17 of them were injured and sent straight to hospital.
	Two of his victims who were children, sadly an 8 and a 10 year old, are confirmed to have died.
	As far as I'm aware, they are the only ones who have died and the rest of them seem to be in stable condition according to what I was told right before we came on.
	So if there's any corrections there, please feel free to correct me.
	But let's explore and discuss what's been going on with this.
	So there is a lot of information going around right now and a lot of different people are using this tragedy to try and push one narrative that the shooter was doing it because they were right-wing or because they were left-wing, because they were transgender, because they were anti-Catholic, all sorts of different things.
	I think it does somewhat when people try and play hot potato like this, takes away from the actual personal sufferings and tragedies that people are experiencing.
	I mean, at least two families have lost their children as a result of this attack, and the rest of the families are having to suffer through major trauma given if their children have been injured or even just been involved in the incident in the first place.
	But I want to clear some things up, and we can take a look at some of it because, to be fair, this is quite.
	a bad sign of where culture is right now, given the way that not only that this has been reported on, but the actual state of the shooter himself and all of the stuff that was released related to him when he went and did the shooting.
	So just to clear up the information, the actual basic information.
	So he was a man called Robin Westman, original name Robert Westman, who had a name change back in 2020 when he would have been about 17 years old.
	He was 23 at the time of this.
	He changed from Robert to Robin when he was 17.
	The document itself said that he was identifying himself as female.
	His mother signed on the documents, so she was probably most likely supportive.
	And then yesterday morning, just before 8:30 am, authorities say that the shooter, which we believe and suspect, and I think has been confirmed to have been Robin Westman, approached the side of the church where the Annunciation Catholic School was hosting its morning mass.
	The school had only just started the new school year.
	The side of the building where the shooter approached had two doors, and it appears that two by four wooden planks were placed against to barricade the doors from the outside.
	The shooter began firing a rifle through the church windows from the side of the building toward the children who were sitting on the pews.
	Dozens of children were inside during the mass.
	First responders entered the building to provide first aid and rescue children who were hiding.
	Robert Westman had shot himself in the car park in the head by this time and killed himself.
	He's dead.
	Investigators said that they were still processing the scene, but the police chief, Brian O'Hara, said the number of rounds fired appeared to be in the dozens.
	So some relations from the actual school shoot from the shooter here, 23 years old, weird age to be going up and shooting up a school until you realize that he went to that school when he was growing up and his mother had connections there.
	She worked at the church where the attack took place up until 2021.
	People found on social media a report, a post from the church itself from 2021 wishing her well as she had done a voluntary resignation from it.
	So we know that there are multiple connections to all of this, which explains why he might have chosen to target this.
	So what is a church that's connected to a school then?
	Yeah, it's a Catholic school.
	There are a number, I'll see if I can find it.
	Because I don't know anything about this.
	This morning, this is what you might be covering.
	I was like, I haven't even heard of this.
	I don't know if it's in this article, but in a number of the articles, there's ahead maps of the location.
	And you can see that the school is here and it's on this road.
	There's a building here and then there's the church here.
	So they seem to be connected to one another.
	I don't know if there's anything in here showing that.
	Either way, that's what the layout is.
	The Minneapolis mayor, Jacob Frey, came out because, of course, as I mentioned, the shooter was trans.
	He was a man who thought he was a woman who got a name change.
	Doesn't appear that he'd taken any hormones.
	There are photos available of him where it looks like the most that he did was put his hair in pigtails, strangely enough.
	But because of the fact that he's related to the trans community, many people have issues with the trans community, given that he changed his name at 17, which suggests that he was in touch with the ideology by at least his mid-teens, if not possibly younger.
	His mother must have been supportive of this, given...
	given that she was the one who signed on to the document people are people are very critical of this again saying that this is just another example of trans people being mentally ill, having a nihilistic outlook on life, having a very, very poor outlook on life and a poor outlook on religion, given that a Catholic school was targeted here.
	taking that out on the world and then taking themselves out before they can be brought to justice.
	This obviously mirrors the Nashville shooting that happened in 2023 where a trans shooter went in, killed a few children, and I think in that case the shooter was taken out by the police, but there was a manifesto released by that shooter as well, which the authorities tried to hide for a long while, probably because of the ideological implications of it, it would make the people who believe in all of this stuff look really bad.
	And similarly, another mirror to this, there was a manifesto published online by this shooter as well, by Westman.
	Now, this manifesto was not written down.
	was in a series of YouTube videos that were uploaded to his YouTube channel and it seemed that he had them scheduled to release at the time he knew that he would be doing the shooting.
	And they're not particularly...
	I've I don't know if there are any more videos.
	I've seen one full video, and it's not really a manifesto.
	It's a clearly insane evil man showing off his gun collection while rambling to himself and letting out a load of Zoomer TikTok slogans and catchphrases.
	Like he's saying, tro-lo-lo-lo-lo and skibbity-riz.
	Really?
	Over and over again.
	Clearly, this is someone who was already very, very mentally unwell, and in one of the documents we can see He'd written out a load of words in English but using Russian Cyrillix.
	People managed to decode what they were saying and it was saying that he was that he was always morbidly fascinated with school shootings.
	Ever since the seventh grade, he'd had sick fantasies about shooting up the school that he was in.
	And then when he was later on in life working for jobs, he had fantasies about shooting up his jobs as well.
	and that he had a TikTok account where he'd posted a load of stuff.
	So this was a clearly insufferable,
	which has thrown a loop thrown a lot of people through a loop because they think that all of these different memes have some kind of secret that you can decode about what his ideology may have been.
	Was he left?
	Was he right?
	Why did he do this?
	On the weapons, it was written on the weapons.
	And on the magazines that he was putting into the weapons as well.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'll show you some of that later.
	But because of all of this, the mayor, Jacob Frey, has come out to defend the trans community, saying that those who direct hate towards trans people have lost their sense of common humanity so in the middle of this tragedy this shooting he still needs to come out and let you know in the norm macdonald fashion of what about all of the innocent trans people obviously there is becoming there is becoming a some somewhat of a trend of this kind of behavior from certain people that
	suggests something but no no no we can't we can't say anything we can't say anything again there were a number of patients a number of victims who were sent to the hospitals one hospital in particular hennepin healthcare described it as a mass casualty situation.
	Now in the video itself, they said that this had been one of two mass casualty situations that a hospital had experienced in the past 24 hours.
	So I don't know if there was another shooting in Minnesota or the broader Minneapolis area that's just not getting as much attention as this one.
	But that's what I saw in the video.
	He might have been wrong, but I mean, he works in the hospital.
	He said that...
	liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
	The facts are clear, guns are plentiful and common sense attempts to limit their availability have been largely rejected in the name of freedom not found in our Constitution.
	Now the kinds of checks that I would be in favour of for gun ownership in America and I know Americans aren't going to like this but given the trends I don't feel like these kinds of progressive progressive types would be particularly in favour of them because I would say ban clearly mentally ill trans people from owning guns.
	I mean, but that would just be my suggestion.
	The thing is about that is that you can always get a gun if you really wanted one.
	So like, for example, in Britain, handguns are banned.
	Oh, of course, but London's full of them.
	There's a black market for handguns, though.
	It's not like no one's got a hand, no criminals have got handguns.
	So No, of course it would be I mean, especially if you're talking about Chicago.
	Like this is the Archbishop of Chicago.
	Chicago has gun laws.
	But guess what?
	Chicago's still full of gun violence every single day particularly around the like ghetto areas but I'm sure he wouldn't want to talk about that.
	People are just using it to try and push more gun control legislation, frankly.
	The suspect in the attack had three guns they were armed with legally.
	He had a rifle, an AR-style rifle, which of course people are using to push that narrative again, a shotgun and a handgun.
	He also had some kind of smoke bomb.
	Westman wrote numerous things on his weapons and they used the pronouns there.
	in this article at this point so it seemed that they were trying to ignore the whole aspect of this at first being that it's a transshooter.
	He'd written numerous things on his weapons and magazines including Kill Donald Trump.
	Also written on the weapons and magazines were anti-Semitic writings and references to the Holocaust, other mass shooters, and the Catholic Church.
	So it seems to have just been a massive hodgepodge of random internet memes, slogans, catchphrases that don't to me point to any major ideology.
	It doesn't seem like he just had brain rot infiltrate his already unwell mind and just decided as a joke to put all of this there because if you watch the video he's like giggling to himself.
	He seems to think it's hilarious just muttering about skibbedy rizz to himself it's a deranged mind it's a sick sick mind well i mean anyone that does anything like that is of course to varying degrees i mean i remember a couple there's been so many now but a couple i've looked into over the years do you remember there's the virginia tech shooter um that was actually a really deadly one uh just in terms of sort of people that were killed in it and um Yeah,
	they're always insane, of course.
	You'd have to be insane to do something like this.
	But like varying degrees of it.
	So like he was just, he just seemed really.
	angry at the world and angry that no one took him seriously or talked to him and stuff.
	Yeah, and if you read the translations that people have of this guy's journals, he's angry at life itself.
	Yeah, all right.
	You'd have to be, wouldn't you?
	You're so angry at the world that you want to kill a bunch of little kids because that's sort of the most heinous thing you could do to the world, is that, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	I can't think of anything more heinous.
	I mean, one of the other ones, well, I've looked into a few.
	It's very sort of dark, isn't it?
	the guy that what was the incel one?
	The sort of famous incel one.
	Oh, I know the one that you're on about.
	Elliot Rodgers.
	Elliot Rodgers.
	He was just pissed off that he didn't get laid, basically.
	Yeah, he was really young as well.
	But also just extremely angry at the world.
	Obviously, crazily angry at the whole world.
	But the one I looked at most was the one that dressed up as a joker and went into a cinema when Batman was showing.
	Oh, yeah, in 2012.
	i remember that and you can find just on youtube like hours worth of him being interrogated so he didn't kill himself um and they put him in like a proper mentor some, not just a prison, but like a proper mental institution where you're just drugged up the whole time.
	But there's hours worth of him being interviewed after the fact.
	And he's quite clearly sedated.
	Like he's clearly sort of sedated.
	But they're asking him all about it, like, why did you do it?
	And it's just insanity, it's just pure insanity.
	Like his reasoning, his ideology, his worldview, it's just mad.
	Like, it's just nonsense.
	Like, I needed to take so many lives to give myself more life energy and stuff.
	It's mad.
	It's actually insane.
	So, yeah, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this guy sounds like, yeah, he's highly.
	mentally ill.
	This guy, the journals are talking about how life is horrible, he needs to end his own life, but he wants to take people down with him.
	In the journals, he also says specifically, I hope I take out this teacher, because he's such a beloved teacher.
	And so again, people have been trying to say like, oh, well, his writings were covered, well, his guns were covered in all of this, like, racist, anti-Semitic stuff, as well as anti-Christian and anti-all anti- everything, basically.
	And to try to kill Trump as well.
	Yeah, and kill Donald Trump.
	So to try and fit him into one ideological box.
	Whereas, I mean, if he was anti-Semitic or racist, why didn't he choose an inner city school filled with diverse students?
	If he was anti-Semitic, why didn't he choose a Catholic school?
	Fact of the matter is that he chose a Catholic school filled mainly with white children who he had personal connections to and went to himself.
	This whole thing seems like a sick, sick, twisted mind deciding to attack somewhere that he had personal connections with.
	Again, people have found here you go here like Minneapolis suspect knew her target.
	Her target because at times like this we really want to prioritize the respect of pronouns of a child murderer.
	That's what we want.
	It's nearly always the case that it's their school and the school they went to.
	From Columbine on down, it's nearly always the case.
	And it's the same with this one.
	It is the same with this one.
	As the FBI is investigating it as an anti-Catholic hate crime, maybe more evidence will be turned up for that.
	I mean, I wouldn't mind, I wouldn't be shocked if the Catholicism had a lot to do with it, but it seemed to be more just a personal connection to the school itself is what made him choose that as the target.
	Regarding his mother, I wasn't able to find any major information about her, apart from what the reporting has already showed, that she worked at the school up until about 2021.
	There's not any word really on whether she's alive or not.
	Looking at the note that he left, it looks like his parents and his brothers and sisters are all still alive, but I've not seen any public comments they've made.
	They probably just want to be out of the public eye as much as possible right now.
	And the only other connection to anything else is that her brother is a former Republican representative in the Kentucky General Assembly and spoke about his family's strict Catholic upbringing.
	So again, this all seems very, very personal.
	And you can see from the what we can see in the videos that have been taken down now.
	They've been taken down, but in the videos you can get screenshots of all sorts of things, weird demonic drawings.
	Here you can see how he was writing in English using Russian cyrillics.
	Very strange.
	Clever.
	Very, very clever code.
	breakers round the clock to break that one.
	Yeah, when actually just like Kiwi Farms, people on Kiwi Farm forums broke the code and they just realized.
	But here you can see some of the stuff, the kinds of things that was written all over it.
	And there doesn't seem to be any kind of rhyme or pattern to it, other than unironically internet brain rot memes that you would find on TikTok.
	Here's some more stuff.
	There's the Where is Your God?
	You can see more of the strange writings.
	suck on this, F everything that you stand for.
	That's a Slipknot lyric.
	Is it?
	Yeah, there were Slipknot lyrics in here.
	Is he old enough to really be a big Slipknot fan?
	Are Slipknot still around?
	Do they still...
	They were around when I was, like, young.
	Slipknot are still around.
	Okay, alright.
	Yeah.
	He'd written live, laugh, love on the bottom of these...
	Are they magazines or clips?
	I don't want Americans to get angry.
	That's a magazine.
	Yeah, yeah.
	On the bottom of these magazines, he'd written live, laugh, love.
	Wait, is it?
	Am I getting it wrong?
	I think it is, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Sponsored by BlackRock.
	On one of the other ones, he'd written six million wasn't enough.
	But then he's also going, like, where is your God?
	Kill Donald Trump.
	Do you believe in God?
	Kionicatze?
	Yeah.
	What?
	Yeah.
	He said he'd watched that film.
	In the journals, he watched that film the day before he committed the shooting.
	That's a great film.
	I like Kionicatze.
	I've not watched it.
	Okay.
	I'm sure that...
	Don't let this taint anything.
	Ted K, you can see...
	Robert Bowers?
	I don't know, but you can see Ted K written there, so I'm assuming that's Kaczynski.
	So it's like, any ideology, any meme, any slogan that you can think of that people share online.
	Kill Donald Trump, rip and tear.
	That's from Doom.
	Like, can you detect the pattern to this other than general insanity?
	sick and twisted mind yeah this is both sort of um infantile and and obviously murderous at the same time yeah that combination of um sort of in the truest sense retarded that your mind is that of a child the mind of a child psychopath yeah all right and in in the video obviously they've all all been taken off of YouTube,
	but people have saved them and some of them have been uploaded on YouTube.
	I won't play this video.
	It's just strange, but if you want to look at it yourself, if you go on the website, you can find the links to everything I've used here down below.
	Like it literally starts with, here's, here's, you know, the Walter White drawing from Breaking Bad?
	Yeah.
	It just starts with that.
	Like what's that trying to tell us?
	What's the mishmash?
	In fact, the reference to Kyonekaatsi is quite telling, because if you don't know, there's these two films, Kyonekaatsi and Powellekaatsi.
	They made a later one, Naomi Kaatsi is not quite as good.
	But anyway, and it's a film where there's no characters there's no narrative it's just a montage of really cinematic shots with a great score by Philip Glass a composer that's all it is and it's really artsy and it's really beautiful but you could you could watch them or it's you can definitely watch them with sort of a nihilist's eye you don't have to watch them that way but you could do sort of a commentary this guy seems to have like a commentary on sort of the the
	craziness of the modern world um and stuff so yeah and if if you want mash that together with trump and anti-catholicism and uh yeah this is just a real yeah again real mishmash of insanity kiwi farms this thread seems to have done a lot of the actual work in decoding some of this stuff like a the cyrillic screed if you skipped over here you can see they've they've
	translated some of it and you can just see that it's literally it goes on like this I have had thoughts of mass murder for a long time I am very conflicted in writing this I need to get my thoughts out with getting put on a watch list it'll be a brain bath my interest in specifically school shooting started in seventh grade.
	I remember one day I was talking with Valerie.
	She was my crush.
	I was with her and another kid.
	I asked them if there was a school shooting, where would you hide?
	Don't remember why I asked, but it seemed to scare them.
	They laughed it off, but later told it up.
	And it goes on like that and starts to just get crazier and crazier and crazier from there.
	So this is clearly something that has been in the back of this guy's mind for years.
	Years and years.
	He was twenty three years old.
	I don't know how old kids in seventh grade are in America.
	But years he's been thinking of this kind of thing and he's just decided to act on it now.
	So personally, I don't see if you can decode all of this and tell me that there's some kind of bigger message other than some guy who was nihilistic, had a sick and twisted mind, hated life, and was also, because of his mental illness, also trans.
	Then, if you can tell me is connected to more than just that, please let me know, but it just seems like a tragedy right now.
	So my heart goes out to everybody affected.
	I hope all of the kids that were injured can make a full recovery without any lasting effects later on into the life and to the families of those kids who've killed you know my my heart goes out to you i can't imagine what that's like all right All right, so there's the really sad news out of the way first of all.
	So, pod, the Rumble Rants Siglestone, Bo, are you still giggling about that thing I posted on Twitter?
	Oh, Siglestone.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	I can't say what it is because it's ever so slightly spicy.
	It's not that spicy, but it's totally spicy.
	No, we're not hanging you with spice here.
	Yes, Siglestone.
	Walking to work this morning, it popped into my head.
	I laughed out loud, literally, actually, audibly, on my own, walking down the street, laughed out loud when it popped in my head.
	So yeah.
	There you go.
	You're providing Beau with hours and days of entertainment with whatever that was.
	So thank you.
	Off the YouTube super chats, you are soul kick off 44 p to the dollar.
	So there's a quid.
	Thank you very much.
	That was $20.
	Cheers.
	KBars bbq it's too sad to see what's going on in europe with the uh infuriers i assume invaders america should invade conquer and liberate um no thanks Sorry, no thanks.
	But I mean, I appreciate that you want to help, though.
	K-Bars, I've been a fan for years.
	I'll do what I can.
	Another $10.
	Thank you.
	Brother Doom, I'd argue he's pro-Palestine, which is why he had the comment about the 6 million, not that it really matters at this point.
	Again, ironically enough, there was nothing mentioning Palestine that I could see, although there were flags in his journals that you could see in some of the screenshots, but they were pride flags that said, defend equality and things like that.
	Right.
	Horrible.
	I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, but it doesn't seem like this guy had any kind of coherent ideology to begin with.
	Yeah, right, yeah.
	Because if he did, the net result of it almost certainly wouldn't be murdering innocent children yeah a school that he went to horrible okay let's talk about something that happened a couple of days ago now but it was the first chance um i've had to talk about it so i'm going to talk about it is that elon went on a bit of a tear on twitter i think it was a couple of days ago now i think on the 26th um just having a pop at farage and
	bigging up rupert lowe and um so i thought I thought it might be worth talking about because I don't usually do many segments do I where it's just sort of some sort of Twitter drama or some sort of throwaway thing.
	I usually do something with a bit more to it than that but I thought this one was worth doing.
	I'm surprised someone didn't do it yesterday to be honest but anyway.
	So here at Lotus Eaters we've never really made any bones about the fact that we're sort of pro-Rupert Lowe.
	Mr. Lowe MP has been on Lotus Eaters more than once.
	He certainly seems better than everybody else that's available to us.
	He's the single best MP in Parliament at the moment, in my opinion.
	A lot of people think that way in the country.
	I can't think of anyone better.
	best one in terms of worldview and policy.
	Okay, so This one MP is like the guy and everyone else is lame and crap.
	I mean, they are.
	In our opinion, yeah.
	No, in fact.
	Okay.
	And every single other MP in Britain is sort of worthless, it's not sort of proactively an enemy.
	Well, it turns out that that niche view is shared by the world's richest man.
	Elon.
	Is that who that's supposed to be in the bottom left corner?
	I don't know what that is.
	Because is that just like an artifact of grafting Rupert's face onto Cromwell.
	I actually hadn't seen that.
	If anyone's just listening to this, we've got an image there where someone shopped Rupert Lowe onto Oliver Cromwell in the 1970 film Cromwell.
	You know, he's like some sort of Lord Protector type person.
	And I believe Rupert Lowe actually really admires the real historical Oliver Cromwell as well.
	Oh.
	And he called his dog Cromwell.
	Anyway.
	I don't know.
	So actually put up the next picture as well.
	Brilliant and funny picture when he got his guns back after the police cleared him of doing anything wrong after the Zia Yusuf and Reform allegations.
	So, yeah, it turns out that our sort of fairly niche view, and if you believe Rupert Lowe haters on Twitter, that no one really likes him.
	He hasn't actually got a deep well of popularity.
	He has.
	He has.
	And it's shared by Elon Musk, the world's richest man, arguably the richest man.
	There is a weird thought from some people, some sniping bedwetters, that...
	that you need they like a politician to be successful needs to be a celebrity and famous before they end up being able to achieve anything.
	They need to have gone on Celebrity Jungle and come third or whatever.
	Yeah, which I don't know how true that is.
	I don't think there's any sort of logic behind that at all.
	And also Rupert Lowe, wasn't he manager of what was it, Southampton?
	Not manager, he was owner, wasn't he?
	Yeah, he was owner.
	So he has been in the public eye before.
	No, I think Southampton didn't do well at that.
	Either way.
	Anyway, yeah.
	Right.
	Either way.
	He's already been in the public eye before he was an MP, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And everything earlier on this year propelled him into the public eye when he was getting kicked out of reform anyway.
	Mm.
	Yeah.
	So before we go on, just to mention., some people really don't like Elon.
	Like some people don't think this is that much of a win.
	And well, let's see, I mean, I'm not huge on Elon personally.
	Yeah, well, I'm actually I am.
	I'm a bit of a bordering on a sycophant.
	You're a fan, but yeah, a little bit, almost, yeah.
	So, but no, let's be reasonable here.
	Is he perfect?
	No.
	Has he come out with some things that I don't agree with?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Like that HB one thing over Christmas, do you remember?
	Yeah.
	Like, that was I don't like that.
	I don't like that.
	That was the initial thing.
	There's a number of things Alan said over the years, sure.
	I will say I don't mind when he came out about Trump earlier on this year, before the whole Epstein Files debacle, which we'll get to in the next second.
	But he explicitly said Trump's in the Epstein Files, which is why he doesn't want them released.
	And then it turns out, according to a recent report, that Trump was told by Pam Bondi in May that he's in the Epstein Files.
	So Musk was telling the truth there, according to the reports that we can see.
	So I don't think he's all bad.
	I just think that he is, I think he's very changeable.
	I think he's very fickle, and I think he can jump from one subject to another.
	I understand why people like him, though, because obviously being the world's richest man, if he's backing your movement, if he's on your side, that's a lot of clout and power and money behind it.
	Well, that's sort of my thinking on this.
	This is my take.
	It would be mad to sort of turn your back on that, to not want that.
	Because, spoiler alert, there's nobody out there that is going to make everyone happy.
	And so, in my mind, Elon is way more based and positive for our side of the aisle, our side of the ledger, than not, by a long, long, long way.
	I mean, with the Trump-Elon fallout a few months back, I was sort of fairly immediately just went on Twitter and said, yeah, if I've got to pick a side, if I have to, if it's a binary choice, I choose Team Elon.
	But no, is he perfect?
	No.
	I'm happy for him to supply money, as long as that money doesn't come with some bad, like, transhumanist strings attached to it, where he's like, also getting your brain chips in there.
	Yeah.
	Also, support all of this weird AI stuff that I'm doing with Peter Thiel and other people.
	Right.
	So, my angle here, my take is that it's good, but I don't want people to think that I'm sort of mindlessly pro-Elon.
	But, you know, my feeling is that it would be crazy to sort of reject it or turn your back on it, because he's not, like, the purest of pure English nationalist type person.
	Of course, I can understand that.
	Okay.
	So, I mean, and he has been talking about it for a while as well.
	It's not just suddenly, two days ago, suddenly decided to pipe up about Rupert Lowe and the rape gang inquiry and the problems that Britain faces and that sort of thing.
	I mean, so he just posted the English flag.
	So, yeah, Rupert Lowe is, as hopefully everyone knows, putting together an inquiry, right, a rape gang inquiry, and Elon sort of boosted it.
	Obviously, anything he posts gets massively, massively boosted, doesn't it?
	So, yeah, he boosted Rupert Lowe there, which, just from our point of view, you know, sort of pro-low people.
	We're pro-low here.
	That's just great.
	That's just great to see.
	Those services can be acquired for quite a reasonable price for marketing and PR.
	Talking of which...
	a brilliant segue it wasn't even planned we didn't plan that did we no we did not perfect there you go uh But think about buying an Islander magazine, $14.99 plus postage and packaging.
	It's a bit more money if you need to get it sent to America or something.
	But you Americans are far richer than the rest of us, and you love to tell us as well.
	So if anything, you've sealed your own fate there, Buck Oz.
	Ed Dutton, Cole Benjamin, Dave Green, Morgoth.
	So, you know.
	Pretty baseline up.
	Our own Luca Johnson.
	He's a very good writer.
	He is.
	All right.
	So on with the Musk low connection.
	So yeah, over the course of like, I don't know, like one afternoon or one evening or something, like he retweeted...
	Again, that's quite a good example.
	It's like, but I'll take it.
	I'll take it.
	Matt has, for all of his personal faults, I'm not a huge Matt Goodwin guy, he has collected a lot of useful data.
	And so boosting the data isn't a bad thing.
	Yeah.
	So he retweeted that.
	And so here we are.
	This is from last year.
	Right, so he's talking to Tucker back a year ago, almost a year ago.
	In fact, let's just listen to it, actually.
	There were, and this is simply stating a fact, there were migrant rape gangs in England that would run around and prey on young girls, gang rape them.
	And some people found that objectionable, which I'll say it should be objectionable.
	And they were upset about that.
	And so they complained about it online and were sent to prison.
	That sounds crazy.
	Right, he can talk about anything.
	He can say anything he wants, right?
	right doesn't owe anyone anything and he's choosing to sort of bring attention to that like a year ago so great i mean brilliant i think any person thank you any person of reasonable mind should be able to learn about that and say that's awful some people should be doing something about that right So in response to that, I retweeted it with, and my tongue is firmly in my cheek here.
	I said, all hail, good King Elon, first of his name.
	He saved every one of us.
	A flash golden reference there.
	Oh, all hail, King Elon I, Lord of Tesla, Master of SpaceX, Prince of the PayPal States.
	All hail the mighty Lord Musk, father of the earth, emperor among men.
	He saved every one of us.
	Amen.
	I'm joking now.
	That's meant to be comic hyperbole.
	But I also...
	You don't have to explain the joke to me, Beau.
	It's fine.
	Just because I'm a massive cynic, it's okay.
	But I freely admit that I've got concerns about some of Elon's views.
	At least for all that HB1 thing, for example.
	But yet still, thank you for doing this.
	Thank you for bringing attention to sort of forcing it from being swept under the carpet again, right?
	i appreciate that i will take that i'm happy to take that um so that was a year ago.
	Oh, another one.
	As if thrown by the very hand of Zeus himself.
	And lo, good kings Musk's vengeance fell upon the land as a thunderclap.
	This is all a reference of ancient Assyrian kings.
	This exactly sort of thing Tiglath Palaezer would have written about himself.
	Their women he bespoiled.
	What are you saying about Musk?
	Could that be libelous?
	Oh, yeah.
	Didn't even think about that.
	I'm not saying he actually did this.
	I'm trying to liken you to an Assyrian emperor, not a sex criminal.
	His vengeance fell upon the land as a thunderclap falls from the heavens, as if thrown by the very hand of Zeus himself.
	Their menfolk he slew, their women he besmirt, he bespoiled, their cattle and oxen he stole.
	Mighty was his wrath and pitiless was his countenance.
	That is, I am.
	It's a powerful statement.
	It's pretty much literally the sort of thing that a Syrian...
	So I just want to make clear that I'm a bit of an Elon Fanboy made it plenty clear.
	But Once again, not mindlessly so, but I'll take this.
	I will take this with the recent thing that little girl in Scotland is trying to just defend her sister from being assaulted or sex crimes and things.
	Yeah, Elon comes out just completely.
	He said, start by condemning the grovellers and collaborators in positions of authority in Britain who aided the rape epidemic of their own people or turned a blind eye to their responsibilities, both civil and criminal prosecutions.
	Yes.
	That's what we've been saying.
	That's what someone like Rupert Lowe has been saying.
	Yes.
	Justice.
	Well, people need to.
	Justice.
	People need to be punished.
	Yes.
	For allowing this to happen.
	And it's not just a niche position to hold that.
	Sorry, I say allowing this to happen like it was some natural force, like it was the wind and somebody forgot to close the window and so something got knocked over.
	No, no, no.
	This was people doing this on purpose to cause the situation we're in right now.
	Over 28.5 million views.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for bringing attention to it.
	Barbara Roche under Blair, and then Peter Mandelson, also under Blair, actively just opening up the gates and inviting people in.
	Was it Mandelson said that they sent out teams, teams to get people here?
	Yeah, there's not an accident.
	Mandy.
	I think Mandy is the ambassador to the United States right now.
	Oh, brilliant.
	He really is like a turd that won't flush.
	Yeah, aren't they all?
	Good.
	OK, here's another banger.
	He's retweeted Rupert again.
	I believe he might have pinned this one briefly.
	He said, I would like to help fund legal action against corrupt officials who aided and abetted the rape of Britain per the official government inquiry.
	Please reply below for consideration.
	Yes, thank you.
	Do I share every single view that Elon has?
	No.
	Am I thankful for that?
	Yes, very much so.
	Very much so.
	He's prepared to help fund legal action.
	Got the deepest pockets in the world.
	Yeah.
	Amazing.
	It's sort of amazing.
	Again, he could sort of fund anything he wants, right?
	Yeah.
	Within reason.
	I mean, if I...
	Almost anything in the world he could get behind, throw his weight behind.
	And he's choosing this.
	Amazing.
	Well, if I had the kind of money that he did, this is the sort of thing that I would be doing.
	So, you know.
	It's like a bizarro Julesaurus.
	A reverse Julesaurus.
	If he follows through with it, if actual...
	If action comes of this, then, you know, I can't do anything but applaud it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I retweeted that saying, oh, what this?
	Oh, just good King Elon, first of his name, pinned Prince Rupert, pledging the deepest pockets in the world to our cause, using the most powerful spotlight in the history of civilization to champion nativism and justice in these islands.
	No biggie.
	Obviously I'm being sarcastic there.
	Yeah, and that's how I feel.
	That is my genuine feeling.
	I got most most people agreed with me, but you've got the odd ones saying, oh no, yeah, he has got this odd view about whatever or he's not perfect for this reason or that reason But there you go.
	I actually got that tweet retweeted by David Ike the David Ike really yeah and he was having a little bit of a go like essentially quote it he just cut and paste a poem about the spider and the flyer in the parlour you know like being a bit cautionary i think i i don't really know but i think he really hates elon for whatever reason again i i mean i suppose i can understand and agree with the sentiment to be cautious of people.
	Yeah, right.
	I like this.
	That's why for me, when genuine action comes of all of this, if there is follow-through, if there is funding actually given to people who get real change and action from that funding, then I can't exactly say no.
	I can't criticise that.
	But while we're still in this phase, I also advise caution.
	But it's looking it's looking all right so far.
	That's fair enough.
	One super quick thing I'd like to say.
	I don't really like getting into internet drama.
	My niche I have internet drama.
	But I replied to David Ike with a Okay Boomer GIF.
	And I regret that.
	If David Ike ever watches this, which I strongly doubt he will, there was no need for that.
	That's me being petulant.
	I like David Ike.
	I genuinely like him.
	I might even delete that because that's just petulant.
	I've found a number of his books in Swindon Charity Shops before.
	If I'd known that you'd like him, I would have picked them up for you.
	Again, a man I don't agree with on everything that he's ever said.
	Absolutely not.
	Is he a fascinating, well-read person?
	Yes.
	Do I respect him?
	Yes.
	In fact, I'm going to delete that GIF.
	You heard it here, hello.
	David Dyke, please don't hate me.
	You can fact check this a week for eight hours.
	Let's find, search for that.
	Let's move on from that because that's just the minus side, the weeds.
	Okay, next thing.
	What's the next thing?
	Okay, yeah, I mean, so yeah, as I say, Elon went on a bit of a tear.
	He then retweets Reaper again.
	We're getting on for time a bit here, so I'll whip through things here.
	But he just says, just the government needs to enforce the law.
	Oh, he has a pop up Farage here.
	He says, unfortunately, the reality is that Farage will do almost nothing to protect Britain.
	Again, exactly the talking points.
	Exactly our talking points.
	I've not seen this post that he's retweeting.
	Was this?
	Farage just attacked me for backing mass deportations.
	Let me be clear about what happened.
	Sorry, and this is from two days ago..
	Is Farage still attacking Lowe for being in favor of, you know, like emptying this country of violent, criminal fifth columnists?
	I think I might be wrong, but I think that's a reference.
	That tweet from Rupert is only two days old, but I think he's referencing what happened months ago.
	Well, I mean, he says just attack to me.
	Oh, okay.
	He did it again.
	Okay.
	Really?
	So that is recently.
	and he's replying to something.
	Why would...
	I mean, Farage, it's...
	Like, we're talking to Atherton yesterday and he was saying that Farage is going more hardline on it again.
	Recently.
	Really?
	Then at the same time, within the same few days, he says, Oh, well, you know, we had to get rid of Lowe because of his support for mass deports.
	That's far too extreme for us.
	It's like, make your mind up.
	And that's why Elon, I will say, is completely correct here.
	So again, you can't be trusted.
	It's exactly our talking points that Farage will do almost nothing to protect Britain.
	This is obvious.
	Yeah, it seems to me.
	Yeah.
	Existing law is clear that anyone who was an accessory to aggravated rape or murder, especially of children, is guilty of serious crime and must either serve time in prison if a citizen or be deported if not.
	The government simply needs to enforce the law.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, thanks for sort of highlighting that.
	If of foreign background in the first place, I would say we could still strip them of their citizenship, take Josh's idea, seize all of their assets for all of the money that we've spent on them in benefits over the years, which we inevitably will have done.
	These people are not just in this country abusing our children.
	They're subsidized by the government to do so as well, essentially.
	Because I don't think we should spend an extra penny housing these people in our prisons.
	Yeah, any of their confiscated property or wealth can go towards their plane flight or their boat home as well.
	We shouldn't have to pay for that even.
	Reimbursing the people of this country who've spent so much tax money funding them for so many years.
	So again, if anyone remembers, a few months ago, I was back in January, I think right at the beginning of this year, I think that was when it was, there was Nigel and a few other reform senior reform brafs went over to America and had a meeting with Elon.
	Do you remember that?
	And Elon pretty much immediately afterwards just said, Niage isn't the guy.
	Yeah.
	It seems like he got his number immediately.
	He was suggesting that he was going to support them with a hefty amount of money, and then he met them and went, you're a bit of a shyster, mate.
	Yeah, it's a no.
	And it was in Parliament, and pretending it's funny, they don't care.
	Yeah, no.
	And we just missed out on tens of millions of pounds.
	Brony is what fools.
	Okay, and Nigel wanted to try and mend fences afterwards, but Elon's not interested in that, I don't think.
	Again, this is just a bit over...
	He was snubbed a while back, and now it's in the news like...
	What is this, the Independent...
	Oh, the Express.
	The Express just saying that Elon's been throwing yet more shade at Nigel.
	And, yeah, he calls him weak, which he is.
	I mean, that's just a correct...
	If you're honest, if you're honest with yourself, if you're not just a pirate...
	party a complete reform party shill and loyalist then you would have to come to the conclusion and you want the best for Britain that to put it as kindly as possible Nigel's weak source.
	I mean, of course, I think it's more than that.
	It's deliberate, very, very deliberate containment, as far as I'm concerned.
	Very, very deliberate, but there you go.
	go and then other things to say that um so um elon retweeted this retweeted this guy who's retweeting rupert so the point is just to sort of end the segment here basically to sort of make the point that it's not it's not just some sort of personal vendetta against nigel for the sake of it or something it seems that it uh elon does is sort of interested in seems to be genuinely interested to some degree in the narrative and discourse in in England and Britain and what's going on.
	I mean, he's retweeted Tommy a number of times.
	He's talking about Ben Habib here.
	Advanced UK will actually drive change.
	Well, maybe, hopefully.
	About that one.
	But yeah, like he he I know I've retweeted Tommy a number of times, for example.
	Right, I I know we've had Tommy on before and I know that a lot of people love Tommy.
	I worry with anything Tommy gets involved in, he has this amazing ability to suck everything into his orbit and turn it into just him, rather than like in the past few years at least.
	So I would worry if he's doing something that it will inevitably turn into something that gets abandoned in the storm of drama that always comes up around him.
	Yeah.
	I mean So I'm happy for Rupert to do his own.
	thing yeah yeah of course no sure sure yeah absolutely but again i'm of the position that um okay tom is for my taste is a milk toast civnet like he's a choir boy compared to you and me he's a bit of a choir boy his actual views right but nonetheless he's on our side of the ledger like he wants the best i believe he genuinely wants the best for britain So I'll sort of take it.
	Our movement will have to be a brawls church.
	It will have to be a big tent.
	We'll have to be able to accept all sorts of people and all our views won't perfectly line up and be really pure and everything.
	Now, that's how big tents work, right?
	The conservative, take, for example, the conservative movement, right?
	It needs to be loads and loads of normies and boomers, otherwise you won't win hundreds and hundreds of seats.
	That's the end game here.
	To win, if you're going to win at the ballot box, you need to win hundreds and hundreds of seats, which means you need a massive base of tens of millions of people.
	I think there is, for me, there's a difference between purity testing and being able to get along with people who don't share all of your views and recognizing people who overall can at least today can be net negatives in their contributions and I'll I'll just leave it at that with it.
	without getting any further.
	Because of course I don't need to agree with every little fine detail with somebody ideologically if they're helping to push the movement along.
	But if they're somebody who mainly gets involved in drama and mainly kind of pulls the movement into themselves and makes it about themselves rather than actually helping to advance major goals and especially then if they're incredibly open towards still forms of mass migration as as long as it's done legally and of the right people.
	I feel that that is not somebody who is going to actually help push the goals that I am going for.
	It seems to me at that point that there's a major divergence that one of us is going to have to move on and I'm not going to be that guy.
	I'm not going to be the one to move.
	because I know what it will take to save this country from what's happening to it and just a different just anti-Islamic civic nationalism is not what is going to save this country.
	It's not good enough.
	It's not good enough.
	Yeah, no, I agree.
	No, I agree.
	I hope that's clear.
	Ben Habib, also sort of a friend of the channel, been on a number of times.
	I even interviewed him myself a while ago, back when I was actually in reform.
	And Elon will sometimes sort of retweet Ben Habib.
	He retweeted this tweet from Ben Habib.
	So Elon is aware, even if it's only superficially really, what's going on over here.
	They're tweeting about loose economy.
	Simply this madness needs to end.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be nice.
	Just retweeting, retweeting Tommy retweets and so on and so on you get it okay so I guess we'll end the segment there it's just nice to see that Rupert that Elon is boosting Rupert because you might not completely agree with everything Tommy says or everything Ben Habib says or whatever but
	we're we're pro-low here at the Lotus Eaters.
	So if he's got the backing of the world's richest man and one of the world's most powerful men, whether he's in any kind of office or not, Elon is one of the world's most powerful men.
	So to have that backing, even if I don't agree with everything he's ever said, I'll take it.
	Let us know in the comments if you don't agree with me.
	But no, no, I'd like to see the discussions and the comments.
	I do not come into these things intending to be the contentious one.
	But if I'm not honest with my views, then I'm lying to you and to myself as well.
	And the way that I see it, I mean, low...
	Like Lowe seems to break away from those guys and a lot of issues, which is one of the reasons that I do respect and support him and what he has to say and what he can offer for the movement.
	And with that, let's go on to some of the super chats and Rumble rants.
	Rumble, a cruel says, Thank you, Beau, politics is a team sport.
	You don't have to agree on everything for someone to be on the team.
	It's the art of compromise.
	Well, politics is one long exercise in compromising.
	Well, are you going to be a bit of a Markie in line?
	But that is what it is.
	Well, no, no, no, no., no, no, I recognize that.
	The point that I come from is that there is acceptable compromise and unacceptable compromise.
	Right, you've got to have some principles.
	There needs to be a line that is drawn.
	So on to the super chats, PA sends in just six euros by itself, thank you.
	He also sends in 249 saying, Harry and Tommy, the Battle of the Robinsons.
	Well, I mean, I'm actually called Robinson.
	That's not his real name.
	Good Lord of Opossums, good morning from USA.
	Mark of, I assume remembrance, says, pay Norway to house them in Arctic Island prisons.
	Hm.
	If you're willing, yeah, why not?
	Marco, again, there are autistic YouTubers who traced woke video gaming content back to the CCP as part of their effort to corrupt the West.
	Wondering if there's a similar situation regarding the immigration problems in many countries.
	I've not looked into the CCP with woke.
	I know that I think Razorfist has spoken about this.
	I mean, I wouldn't be surprised.
	I mean, obviously, Donald Trump just recently said that he's happy to take in 600,000 Chinese students into his country, which seems to suggggest to me that negotiations on the whole trade and tariffs may not be going well.
	Some are trying to suggest that it's a maybe it's a bargaining chip.
	Maybe it's a tool.
	It's the art of the deal.
	I don't know what.
	I don't know what, like, what's the play?
	Yeah, what did he get in return?
	I don't know.
	Palm put says the anti Soros Elon.
	Yes.
	Western Islander sent to Maine, USA yesterday.
	A plus quality.
	Glad to hear it.
	Bailey Dingley, singing a lot more English flags about.
	I love it.
	Wonderful.
	And we got one more.
	Rumble rant in from the Habsification.
	Tommy has said he wants the UK to still be majority, 90% plus white British and Irish.
	Well, that's good to hear, but I imagine that's a position he's been pushed back into.
	So if he can change his mind on that, then that's what I would call compromise in the right direction.
	So let's keep pushing.
	Anyway, on pushing things in the right direction and holding people accountable, let's talk about Epstein, which for years, before Trump, before even before Biden, going all the way back to Obama, going all the way back to the original Bush.
	Well, not the original Bush, the second Bush, still.
	W. Yeah, W. People have wanted to sweep Epstein, his affairs, his, um, his abuse rings and his connections to the wealthy and influential and governments across the world.
	They've wanted to sweep all of that under the rug.
	They've always wanted us to forget about it.
	And I want to look at the updates and the developments that have been going on and remind everybody that no matter the administration, no matter who is in office right now, whether they're somebody that you love and have voted for a number of times, or whether there's somebody you hate and voted against.
	We can't let anybody sweep this under the rug.
	We always have to remember this because this is a question of international sovereignty, of the protection and well-being of children and underaged girls.
	And this is a question of whether the people who run our societies across the entire spectrum are all involved in an enormous international blackmail ring, a sexual blackmail ring, which leads them to make decisions that are not good for the people that they are supposed to be representing.
	Keep all of that in mind whenever anybody tries to tell you that it's a conspiracy and whenever anybody tries to tell you that there are more important things to think about because I cannot reasonably consider anything as more important than this kind of national security threat.
	And the fact is, Epstein being dead does not mean that what he was in charge of has gone away.
	have found a successor if as some people might question he is actually dead or not but we'll get on to that at the end of the segment because there are some theories there which sound outlandish at first but I will say have a little bit of they become convincing.
	when you start to look into them and think about them, but you were about to say, I was just to say, I think you're absolutely right, it can't really go away, we can't allow it to go away, because it goes to the heart of the matter, goes to the very, very heart of things.
	Are the most elite elites in the world completely compromised by a sort of sexual compromise?
	Are they or not?
	Are they?
	And if they are, who is holding that compromise?
	And for what reason?
	What are they being made to do to withhold that compromise?
	to keep themselves safe.
	The idea that Jeffrey Epstein was just a very rich New York sex criminal and that's it.
	Trafficking girls to himself and his girlfriend.
	And that was it.
	And that's the extent of absurdity there is here is absurd, yeah.
	It is absurd, it is illogical, it flies against the face of reason.
	Yeah.
	And evidence, quite a lot of evidence.
	And evidence.
	Because if you say that, then you have to say, well, Epstein, I suppose, had cameras dotted about every single room of every single property that he owned purely for the sake of filming himself.
	himself and his girlfriend with these girls.
	For what reason?
	Just so what they can flip back through happy memories years down the line?
	That sounds like a very expensive and complicated way.
	There's loads and loads and loads of evidence.
	Least of all, eyewitness testimony, Ben Shapiro asks us to supply any evidence.
	Well, what about Alexander Acosta in front of a congressional committee just saying that he was told Epstein was intelligence?
	What about that bit of evidence, Ben?
	But there's tons.
	There's actually tons, but I'll let you get into it.
	One thing I will just say is that I completely agree when you said you were going to do this segment.
	I just reminded you I wrote an article something can you put that link up I don't think it's there it's not as the highlighted one yeah I wrote an article back in summer 2022 saying we shan't forget yeah you can try and brush it under the carpet like the like the John Kennedy murder.
	Right, you can try and brush it under the carpet, but you won't be able to.
	There'll be some people out there that won't forget.
	And you say the evidence about Alex Acosta, I mean, there's also just all of the circumstantial stuff like Ghislaine Maxwell's dad, Robert Maxwell, being at this point it's widely accepted one of the most influential and powerful Mossad agents in the entire world who also controlled a large swath of English media and the newspapers.
	Robert Maxwell, do you mean Jan Hock?
	Oh yeah, sorry, sorry.
	I don't want to I don't want to misname him.
	A Czechoslovakian who basically did an impression of an Englishman his whole life.
	Yeah, well, the spies are known for their impression abilities.
	Like he's from Czechoslovakia.
	If you ever hear him speak in later life, he's very plummy, you know, very posh.
	It's like, no, you're doing an impression of an English officer.
	He met an English officer during World War II who genuinely spoke like that, you know.
	And he just decided to face his face.
	That's my voice now.
	Yeah, all right, mate.
	All the circumstantial stuff.
	The weird paintings of George W. and Bill Clinton that he had in his apartment.
	The circumstantial evidence is mountainous.
	Oh yeah.
	But the actual evidence that's already out there like the logs, the Later Express logs, what about that evidence?
	All of the witnesses have come forward.
	The fact that Ghislaine Maxwell got sent to prison for twenty years for all of this.
	In a trial that despite the fact that we had Chauvin, Rittenhouse, Alex Jones, all of those trials were broadcast.
	Gislaine's wasn't.
	But Judge Alison Nathan tells us that there's no need, it'd be needless name dropping if they mentioned anyone in court who actually...
	Apparently.
	Judge Nathan.
	I guess whoever Epstein was blackmailing isn't of public interest.
	You know, it was just it was it was old Larry, the groundskeeper.
	Larry Summers, oh.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	Well, probably him, but allegedly.
	What was the connection with Les Wexner?
	Why did Les Wexner just give him loads of money?
	In my opinion, Les Wexner's the heart of darkness.
	The Prince of Darkness.
	I think a lot of things revolve around why was Why was Why specifically was he hired by Bill Barr's dad to be a math teacher?
	Donald Barr.
	Yeah, Donald.
	Ex OSS agent.
	Yeah, who wrote a weird book in the seventies about a sci-fi civilization of child sex traffickers.
	It's odd.
	Yeah.
	What an odd thing to write a novel about.
	Also his property in New Mexico, the Zorro Ranch, which is surrounded by other private land, half of which is owned by Tom Ford, who's a fashion designer, who he was very, very good friends with, who made a film that I remember watching called Nocturnal Animals, where I was like, this is a really weird film.
	And it's about a man writing a story to his ex wife about him with a different wife and daughter, where they get assaulted and murdered in the desert.
	That's a weird story to want to tell, isn't it?
	The number of names revolving around Epstein is sort of crazy, isn't it?
	Of course, you've got Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton and stuff, famous, big famous.
	But a number of those people like Les Lex.
	And of course, we've just got to clarify here, everything that we are saying is speculation and alleged.
	Nothing, as far as we know, any implications we're making haven't been proven in a court of law because the one court case that might have proven everything wasn't broadcast to anybody.
	But we're not accusing any of these people of doing anything criminal, but it's known, it is a matter of record, a matter of fact, that they knew Epstein and went to his island or used it.
	used his airplane or whatever.
	Now that doesn't necessarily mean they were guilty of any sort of sex crime.
	We haven't said that.
	I haven't said that.
	But I'm saying it's well known that he was a close associate of Alan Dershowitz, for example.
	A known associate.
	Like the idea that someone like William Burns visited him went on to be the director of the CIA.
	That after his two thousand eight conviction where Acosta gave him the sweetheart deal, the then prime minister of Israel was spotted visiting and leaving his townhouse thirty plus times in disguise.
	What?
	In disguise.
	I didn't know the disguise bit.
	He was in disguise.
	Really?
	Yeah, I watched the video this morning talking about it and the guy was the guy was joking that he imagines he was just.
	wearing the classic, like, sunglasses, fake plastic nose and moustache combo and tiptoeing like a cartoon character.
	With his collar up.
	Yeah, and some guys just like there, some paparazzi just like, Is that the Prime Minister of Israel?
	No, can't be, must be someone else.
	There's so many strange things surrounding him.
	But anyway, anyway, we Yeah, yeah.
	What's actually going on right now?
	Well, obviously back at the beginning of July, there was the whole Epstein's File affair where despite all of the hype for it being told that there was it was SAP, the client list and other documents were sat right on Pam Bondi's desk back in February.
	We got told it doesn't exist.
	He did kill himself.
	There's going to be nothing, no more disclosure.
	Forget about it.
	D'Angelo and Cash Patel said so.
	So that's the end of the story.
	After years of agitating about it.
	End of story.
	Line drawn under that one.
	Move on next.
	So despite that, there is a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee who have decided no.
	No, that's not good enough.
	So they've issued a subbina to the estate of Epstein seeking documents and other material as part of his ongoing examination of the government's investigation.
	The subina was issued by Representative James Comer of Kentucky and demands the co executors of Epstein's estate turn over to the House Committee more than a dozen categories of documents and communications, including material from nineteen ninety three to August of twenty nineteen that references all presidents and vice presidents, videos taken from Epstein's properties and listings in his contacts and address books.
	Lawmakers are also seeking entries contained within a leather bound book put together by Epstein's associate Maxwell for his fiftieth birthday, the two thousand eight non prosecution agreement reached with the US Attorney's Office in the Southern District of Florida and Epstein's will.
	The Wall Street Journal reported last month that Trump had allegedly signed a bawdy letter to Epstein in the two thousand to mark his fiftieth birthday that said in part may every day be another wonderful secret.
	The journal reported the leather bound book was compiled by Maxwell and included submissions from dozens of associates, including billionaire Leslie Wexner and attorney Alan Dershowitz along with Trump.
	To be clear, Trump has said that the letter is fake and has filed a defamation lawsuit against the newspaper, his parent company.
	and Rupert Murdoch himself over the story seeking at least $20 billion in damages.
	So we'll see what comes to that.
	In addition to issuing the subpoena, Coma announced that Alex Acosta, who was serving as U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida when Epstein was investigated, will voluntarily answer questions from the committee on the 19th of September.
	Good, good.
	Yeah, that'll be interesting.
	What he's got to say will be very interesting.
	In that 2008 episode, like, what exactly were you told?
	Who exactly leaned on you and how?
	What did you mean by was owned by intelligence?
	What does all of that mean?
	Acosta also points out, was serving as Secretary of Labour during Trump's first term, but resigned in 2019 amid questions about his handling of the Epstein case.
	And I think that was pretty soon after Epstein was arrested in 2019, before he died.
	Acosta was just like, I'm done.
	Yeah, I'm out.
	I'm out.
	I can't handle this.
	As part of the investigation.
	It's not funny.
	I'm laughing about it, but I know.
	As part of the investigation, the House Oversight Committee issued subpoenas for depositions earlier this month to former attorneys, general and FBI directors across four presidential administrations as well as to former President Bill Clinton and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
	The panel also issued a subpoena to Attorney General Pam Bondi for documents related to the Justice Department's investigation into Epstein Maxwell, who was convicted in 2021 for her role in helping him to recruit underage girls.
	She's currently serving a 20-year prison sentence, but she's appealed her conviction.
	And her lawyers have actually come out and said that they want a pardon from Trump.
	They've said that they are seeking a pardon.
	In response, the Justice Department, this is further on in this article, has asked federal judges in New York to unseal grand jury transcripts from Epstein and Maxwell's cases, which we don't have access to publicly.
	A U.S. District Judge, Richard Berman, denied that request to make the material from Epstein's proceedings public, finding that the government is the logical party to make comprehensive disclosure to the public of the Epstein file.
	Because, of course, frankly, as promising as all of this is that someone who is...
	This might just turn into another situation of government investigates itself, government finds itself guilty, like clear of all charges.
	So I worry about that.
	So I would like, personally, I would like a WikiLeaks style drop of it all.
	Like the whole thing with Hillary Clinton's emails and everything to do with the pedestrians, everything to do with that.
	That was literally just, boom, there is everything that you need.
	I would like that and then the usual sleuths can go and look through it all and find the relevant information and put it all together.
	One thing I would say though is about grand jury.
	Now in Britain we don't really have an equivalent of grand jury.
	But the whole nature of a grand jury is that it's behind closed doors.
	It's the whole nature of it for all sorts of reasons.
	So people can say, the idea is they can say with impunity what they need to say.
	And the idea that you then actually just release what was said during a grand jury is really, really rare.
	The whole point of a grand jury is that it's in secret for various reasons.
	And it does make good legal sense most of the time.
	And it would be rare.
	It would be not a complete break of protocol.
	It's not like it's never happened.
	it has totally happened but it is rare and should be rare.
	However, if there's going to be an exception to that sort of case, I think this is one.
	So for example, when Nixon was going through his debacle, a judge...
	Yeah, when Nixon screwed the pooch.
	A judge decided that things that were said in the grand jury should be released.
	It was in the public interest.
	This is definitely in the public interest.
	If that was important enough, I think this is.
	Yeah.
	And I mean, we do have some new information that came out, which was that the Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche did a two-day interview with Maxwell while she's been in prison that was conducted in Tallahassee last month and they have released transcripts of it.
	And if you want to read the transcripts, you can go into the article which I've included down in the links below this on the website web page and you can scroll to the bottom of it and you can read it.
	Now it is almost 200 pages worth, but they are there.
	The problem is I wouldn't trust a single word she has to say in it at all.
	Now she has said that she denied seeing inappropriate conduct by Trump, but she also claims in it, if you read through some of the claims that were made, that Prince Andrew never met Virginia Guthrie, and the photograph, the famous photograph of the two of them together, was probably faked.
	That's what Andrew himself said.
	Yeah.
	He said, Look, the angle of my hand isn't like real.
	And she just denies everything.
	She denies everything.
	All of it was rubbish.
	I'm going for an appeal.
	I want a pardon from the Supreme Court or from the president himself.
	I don't want to be here.
	And as she gives this information saying Trump did nothing, nobody did nothing, We're all good boys who didn't do nothing.
	She mysteriously gets transferred from the prison that she was being held in to a minimum security prison in Texas.
	She was in a more high security Florida prison and now she's been moved into what is being described as daycare in Texas.
	For one bunk Hilton.
	Yeah, that's interesting.
	Yeah.
	That's weird.
	That's weird.
	She said allegations of Prince Andrew having sexual relations with an underage girl in Maxwell's home were mind blowingly not conceivable.
	I believe it's literally a fake photooto, she says during the interview.
	And I'm sure that there are more gems like that in those transcripts if you want to go through them, but I think that's about enough for me to be able to say I don't trust the word this woman says.
	Why would I?
	Not when this isn't like a court case like she was going through in twenty twenty one where she sworn an oath she's having evidence presented against her.
	This appears to be a publicity interview.
	if anything, oh, let's sit down, like when bloody Candace Owens sat down with Weinstein and was like, let's hear your side of the story.
	Except it's literally...
	A slew of lies.
	The Deputy Attorney General sitting down with her and saying, let's hear your side of the story.
	I mean, come on.
	How stupid do you think we are?
	Of course she's an untrustworthy person.
	I mean, if you believe the dozens, or is it hundreds of victims?
	They're fairly unanimous in saying she was...
	She was the recruiter.
	Yeah.
	From what they say.
	If you believe their accounts, which I do, then you can only come to the conclusion that she's a real, kind of monstrous person.
	So would she now, at this point in her life, then lie in an interview?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, totally.
	What reason would she have not to?
	Yeah.
	And the funny thing as well is, as all of this has come out since the beginning of July, loads of the media has started trying to conspiracy jacket the entire affair.
	they've got left like this conspiracy bro go get your two-fold hat bro this from the guardian there's loads of articles like this how the trump administration's handling of the epstein files became a vehicle for qanon ignore the evidence of your own eyes and ears ignore everything ignore not only the mountains of of damning evidence, but the mountains of damning circumstantial evidence as well.
	Don't ask any questions or else you're QAnon, which we'll use as a smear.
	We'll just say that you're a smear.
	I even found this interesting one from Persuasion magazine, written by Francis Fukuyama of all people.
	You know, Francis Fukuyama.
	Yes.
	Whoho?
	You know, End of History Man.
	Yeah.
	Which includes this.
	Obviously, under the headline, Conspiracy Theories have become an essential part of being a conservative.
	Well, yeah, I mean, if there are actual conspiracies going on.
	It would be a science, Francis.
	Who asked you anyway?
	Yeah, it would be dumb not to.
	But isn't this paragraph here telling about the kind of mindset of the ultra-elite circles that someone like Fukuyama must live in, right?
	He says, We are now into the second month of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, wherein the administration's downplaying of the Epstein files has angered many in Donald Trump's MAGA base.
	This is the first time we've seen that base break with Trump, even as he seeks to get them to move on to other matters like the crimes of Barack Obama, my anti-trump friends fall into two categories one group is obsessed with the epstein case because they think it is a path to bringing Trump down, but another group, and I think this is very telling of the elite mindset,
	simply isn't paying attention because they think that the Epstein scandal is distasteful and not something that educated people should care about.
	should be paying attention to more serious issues like the big beautiful bills cuts to Medicaid or what's happening in Gaza.
	Why does caring about all of those things mean that you're not allowed to care about the possibility of an elite international grooming and abuse ring?
	It's distasteful.
	Yeah, it's really distasteful at the heart of it.
	So distasteful that it must be, the scab must be removed, like the boil must be lanced.
	It must be distasteful.
	What a deflection.
	What a deflection that doesn't answer anything gross that's mad that's mad all about that that says way more about you and your friends yeah than it does about the people who are trying to look into this and on the people trying to look into this again when they're just trying to conspiracy jacket or move past the whole things uh because these people are either employed by or work with and rub shoulders with the people who would be implicated in such a scandal most of the actual work that's been done into this has been done by
	uh uh uh People like Whitney Webb, who's written a number of articles on the Unlimited Hangout website talking about this, going really deep in detail into the origins of the blackmail rings to begin with way before Epstein was involved, because he was just someone who took up the mantle.
	There was a position of fixer, recruiter for this kind of thing that Epstein fell into due to his connections.
	And she goes through all of that.
	I've got her two books, her two-volume book called One Nation Under Blackmail, and I will read it at some point and do some content on it, because I'm sure it's very, very revealing.
	But it's to people like this, working on websites that most people will have never heard of that don't get the kind of circulation that the New York Times get, who've had to do the actual digging into this stuff.
	I would just say that Whitney Webb is very, very, very good.
	Yes.
	I've watched a fair bit of her, read a fair bit of her, and on this, she's very, very not just this, but particularly on this, very, very, very good.
	Whitney, if you ever see this, please get in contact.
	I would love, at Lotus East, we would love to have a conversation.
	I would personally love to pick your brain and have a conversation all about this.
	A number of different things, but particularly this.
	Very, very good work.
	Very thorough, it seems.
	As well as women like Whitney Webb, because of the scandal popping up at the beginning of July now, the most unexpected sources have been doing some really good work looking into this.
	And if this is the kind of information that was already available, I just hadn't found it anywhere please let me know but there's this guy and I was I found him through the algorithm recommending this new video.
	This guy Coop, who before, if you look through his channel, was doing like top five internet mysteries that never got solved, style videos.
	Like in the past month just decided to drop some amazing investigations into all of these.
	Like he's put together this part one, the part two is not out yet on the Steven Paddock Las Vegas show.
	Oh yeah, oh God.
	He's made sure to let everyone know in these videos that, you know, he's he loves life.
	He doesn't like standing at the edge of bridges.
	He would never go on a long, long vacation that he never returns from.
	from he'd never shoot himself in the back of the head twice with a shotgun never once would never cross his mind to do such a thing but this is a really good thing i'd never actually looked into the paddock las vegas thing although i knew it was suspicious but this was a really interesting kind of roundup putting all of the information together i'm looking forward to the next one but he started by just putting like a this kind of stuff out which is he did three videos disturbing side of epstein where he's talking mainly about the um the farm
	ranch the zorro ranch in in new mexico and all of the weird stuff that went on there and the fact that since epstein died the people one guy was driving along near the road where it is with his family decided to take a look at it with his drone because he thought, oh, this is like basically a weird little tourist attraction now.
	And he flew the drone over and security spotted it and immediately drove down and looked like they were about to shoot him before they realised he had his whole family with him.
	They were just like, get your drone back and get out of here right now.
	And since Epstein died it had been bought at discount by some mysterious person.
	We don't know who bought it.
	Sounds like the security at Area 51 at Groom Lake.
	Yeah.
	You're simply not allowed to see.
	like what's still going on there but he managed to get some footage of it from an angle that you didn't see in any of the listings on websites where you could see a number of vents in the ground and there'd been reports from women who alleged that they had been there and abused there that epstein had underground facilities including a strip club including and i think he'd said this himself in interviews that he was looking to use it as a baby breeding facility
	there's also weird stuff like loads of ranch barns barns, sheds, stables, despite the fact that there were never animals kept on site.
	There's lots of really weird stuff going on there.
	And clearly still going on there.
	Like I didn't know that Epstein had a second bigger island.
	Little St James was actually just adjoining St James Island, which he also owned.
	We don't know what went on there.
	There are buildings on there, but we've got no photos of them.
	If you look at like satellite view of it, you can't see what's on there.
	Remember on Little St James that sort of square building with the blue and white stripes and the golden dome on top of it.
	You remember that?
	Yeah.
	What on earth is that?
	I think I've heard people say, some official accounts say, oh, it was some sort of.
	cinema viewing room or it's just sort of an outside gazebo type area.
	It's like, yeah, right.
	That's so weird.
	Yeah, sure.
	That's so weird.
	So I make it like a weirdly viewing temple.
	What on earth was going on?
	Yeah.
	What on earth was that?
	There's this video where he goes, like, because most of what we know about Epstein's childhood comes from Epstein, which leaves a load of holes where he's like, oh, I'm just the child of some poor immigrants from Russia.
	We had barely a penny to our name.
	Just a poor Coney Island boy.
	Yeah, and it's like, well, nothing.
	Why were you going to these really expensive schools?
	Why were you going to these really expensive summer camps if you just, I'd barely had a penny to myself.
	Because the Dalton School, I believe, Americans can correct me on this, but it's really prestigious.
	It's like the equivalent of like Sherborne or Eton or something.
	Like, you know?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's a very, very prestigious school, right?
	It's not just a fairly good school.
	I think it's one of the very best.
	Maths.
	for some reason.
	Even though he didn't have an undergrad.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, weird.
	So there's weird stuff there.
	And the final one, which goes a bit kooky, I will admit, but he alleges that Epstein is still alive.
	And whether or not you agree with the final conclusion of this thesis, he provides plenty of information there again about the circumstances of his death that makes it all we already know how suspicious that is, but also just it gives it makes it very clear whether he's alive or dead,
	there is still a lot of weird stuff going on on the properties, like the Zoro ranch being bought up for a discount by some benefactor that nobody knows, like the little St. James Island being bought up by somebody we don't know who it is, and somebody flew a drone over it after Epstein's death and spotted that there were still loads of security teams on there and weird stuff going on there.
	So if I mean, I mean, clearly someone has taken over whatever position that he was in.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's funny we talk about people accusing us of anyone of conspiracy theory, bro.
	Yeah.
	then Epstein's still alive that is Is he in Argentina or is he in Tel Aviv?
	He makes it.
	And they're trying to hide and they're trying to throw the conspiracy jacket over it.
	So if then people actually go into like genuine conspiracy theorizing, you can't be surprised.
	And there's still a lot of a lot of weird stuff going on and evidence to back it up.
	That's the classic, classic, classic intelligence angle is to sort of flood the space.
	with all sorts of craziness, so that the real story is lost, or is very, very difficult to untangle, right?
	Like really, really deliberately make it So it's just a bit more difficult to make the argument of what really happened.
	That's classic.
	That's absolutely classic.
	But either way, this is all the reason why we need to keep holding people's feet to the fire on this subject.
	We can't let them push us back.
	We can't let them distract us with more cultural stuff.
	I mean, that stuff can be fun to talk about, but frankly, there are more important matters at play that are still ongoing.
	We need the answers to this, and also we need to know whether this is still going on, which it almost certainly is.
	Oh, yeah.
	Epstein was not the first to do it.
	He will not be the last to do it.
	There are greater powers that these people are working for.
	Epstein was the tip of the iceberg of a giant international blackmail ring, and it's pretty obvious.
	Him and Maxwell going down, that looks to me like patsies.
	Just throw two of them to the wolves, but we're still not on the full story, so we need the full story, and no matter who is in office, no matter what administration is in power at the moment, you can't let them forget that this, this gets to the heart of it all.
	Anyway, we've ran over time, but that's fine.
	That's fine.
	So I'll read through the super chats, and then we can do the video comments if we've got video.
	Well, there's no Common Sense Crusaders there.
	there no no so yeah That's all right.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I don't mind running on a little bit.
	That's a random name, says stop noticing, and then says a load of stuff that I probably can't exactly.
	say on YouTube now that we're streaming on YouTube.
	But thank you very much for your donation anyway.
	On Super Chats, Epic Pi 11.
	Harry, you and Chris absolutely killed it on Worship of Man.
	Unfortunately, now my standards for new Lotus Eaters intro music are much higher.
	It's not going to be heavy metal, because that would be very divisive.
	That would be very divisive if I write a heavy metal tune to be the Lotus Eaters intro.
	I will probably do something chill and synthy when I can get around to it.
	DRT is King.
	As much as she's a snake, Maxwell is the only Epstein list that is still extant.
	She alone knows the whole ledger.
	Yeah.
	P.A. Autobots or Decepticons?
	Autobots.
	Yeah, of course.
	They're the good guys.
	And also, it's not one of those problems with Transformers where, oh, the good guys are so boring.
	Autobots are still cool.
	They're still very cool.
	Oh, I definitely always identified with the goodies in that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Decepticons are...
	And...
	F.A. Femboy Fantasia says Reason magazine just got their hands on documents showing he had ties in the surveillance industry.
	That's very interesting.
	I'll take a look at that.
	And let's go through the video comments now.
	Oh, yeah.
	You are absolutely right.
	There aren't any.
	Inside Jeff Epstein's spy industry connections.
	That looks really interesting.
	I'll have to give that a read.
	No video comments.
	All right, then.
	I guess we'll do the website comments.
	Then I'll go through these.
	Would you like me to read yours as well, Bo?
	If you wouldn't mind, there's crazy glare on this.
	fine that's fine Omar Awad Harry gonna be a light and fun one today Harry 30 seconds later so anyway dozens of dead Christian kids I did misspeak a little bit there, but it was only two.
	The rest of them hopefully will recover.
	It was a reasonably heavy podcast today, though, right?
	A mass shooting, Epstein stuff, and the rape of Britain.
	Yeah.
	I was more talking about our interpersonal dialogue.
	Oh, big.
	I didn't mean to mislead anybody.
	A. Miller, sorry, on Rumble Rants, planes are cooler than cars, Decepticons win.
	That you're perfectly entitled to that opinion.
	Zesty King, if only there was some character.istic this person had, this is relating to the school shooter, which could have told us they were mentally unwell, if only.
	I know, it's like they literally broadcast it to the world and make you submit to it.
	Illegal truth.
	The Sky News explainer article gave all the details of the shooting in the attacker, but not once was the word trans used, same with all their live reporting as well.
	Yeah, it seemed as soon as social media picked up on this and realized, hold up, this doesn't look like any kind of woman that I'm familiar with.
	They kind of had to switch the reporting and move it back onto being a bit more truthful about this person's identity.
	Lena V. According to a CNN report, the shooter apparently said or wrote before the shooting that he has bugs in his skin.
	That's written in the coded journal.
	This might be an indication that he actually was schizophrenic.
	It's sad.
	He still went and did something awful.
	Yeah, in the journal, the day of he said he couldn't sleep because he had bed bugs biting him all night, but the day before he said he had bugs in his skin, so it seems that he literally was like hallucinating bugs like crawling and biting him.
	Chance from Canada, the image of him shooting at the picture of Jesus indicates to me this man committed the unforgivable sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and he is likely burning.
	in hell as we speak.
	I would imagine the murdering children would be enough to earn him that to begin with.
	Mathurin, possible counterpoint, the mother didn't necessarily need to be supportive to sign off on the name change.
	That's true.
	I did hear, I did read from people in forums though that apparently it's a very progressive Catholic school where some of the parents were complaining that some of the priests were too fundamentalists.
	So maybe.
	Kirp, not sure how people can claim he was right-wing when he had F. Trump written on the barrel of his gun.
	The most I think they could claim with all the anti-Semitic stuff as well would be that he was a groper, but I don't think there's any evidence for that either.
	He seems to have just been a schizo insane person throwing shit at the wall.
	Arizona Desert Rat.
	What I don't get about red flag laws is that a person like this who expresses a desire to kill people publicly never gets flagged, but conservatives have been arrested or had their guns confiscated under these laws.
	Make it make sense.
	It doesn't make sense.
	It's not supposed to make sense.
	It's supposed to punish you.
	White Rider, to be honest, it looks to me like this nutter has intentionally used any and all memes and references in order to obfuscate his motives.
	absolutely it wouldn't be surprised me if he's done this because there have been so many trans mass shooters lately he still wanted to lash out and kill a bunch of people but he didn't want more pressure to be put on the demographic it's uh dodging blame uh possibly uh possibly but in again in the in the journal there's a lot of he makes a lot of jokes about himself being trans it's weird i think he was just crazy zesty king remember when there was a mass shooting in christ church new zealand and everyone blamed it on him being right wing funny how we can blame personal politics for these kinds of
	things.
	But I only do it selectively well that's the thing i don't want to get involved in that I only want to get involved in that kind of thing if the evidence points that way for me with this the evidence points more to him being a crazy person who was just infected by internet brain rot.
	Not that the internet brain rot was what caused him to kill people in the first place, he already wanted to do that.
	But the ideology doesn't seem, I can't detect any major ideology from any of it personally.
	On to your segment, Annie Moss.
	Bo, after hearing your wonderful prose on Twitter, I cannot wait to read your book when it comes out.
	How's that going, by the way?
	Slowly, but it is going.
	I actually find it quite...
	I've been trying to write novels on and off since I was like 17 or 18.
	And actually have finished two or three, they're not very good.
	And I spent most of my late thirties not doing it, just giving up on it.
	So getting back into it again, to write something novel length, i.e.
	good couple of hundred thousand words.
	Completely from your imagination.
	Yeah, yeah, completely, yeah.
	That's dedication, man.
	to write something at least 200 or 300,000 words long that's any good even remotely good is difficult and for me very, very time consuming.
	It takes a lot of...
	Even once you've done the first draft, I assume it takes a lot of writing and editing.
	That's just yeah, you're nowhere near finished after the first draft, yeah, really.
	The other thing is, if anyone out there would know, just try to do this, you sort of need an insane confidence in your own ability in storytelling and writing of dialogue and right because no one else no one else cares.
	It's just something you're completely dreaming up out of your own mind, your own imagination, your own characters, your own dialogue.
	And it's like, why would anyone want to read this?
	Really?
	Well, but once you Yeah, I mean, it's obviously not exactly the same thing, but you've got, like, as a musician, you've got to have insane confidence that I'm going to write something and people are going to actually want to hear this.
	And they're going to enjoy it.
	And you plug away at it.
	I mean, some of the ideas in the song that I released were ten years old at this point, so I've just had them in my back pocket as demos for ages.
	And then you put it out and I've had a pretty much universal positive response.
	So far.
	And it's not just people who are just because they're fans of me.
	They were saying, Oh, I clicked on it because it's Harry.
	I wasn't expecting that much.
	But this is actually good.
	I was expecting this to be Tim Paul's style music, but it was actually decent.
	Okay.
	So I'm sure you'll get a positive response as well if you're putting all of this work into it.
	It's interesting actually the way you write music.
	I think most people, any normal person would have self-doubts.
	You write something, you think it's good, you hope it's good, otherwise you wouldn't have done it at all, but there's always that thing, it's like, is this shit?
	Is it?
	There's always that worry.
	I mean, there are some people who write music, they think that they release it, everybody loves it, they still hate it.
	Like Radiohead with Creep, where they're like, that's our worst song, and you all love it.
	Why?
	We hate it.
	But then some people can just get resentful from playing the song over and over and over again.
	Anyway, I'll go through some of these more.
	Kevin Fox, so the government says there is to be an inquiry when we hear about here now.
	But crickets, meanwhile, after the government brings it up, Rupert starts his and so far has 85 cities where it was going on.
	Hundreds of victims and the richest man in the world talking about it.
	Amazing what can be achieved with a little backing in a short time if you really want to do it.
	Yeah, it's all about backbone and willpower.
	Perseverance.
	Omar, as the owner of Twitter, wouldn't it be terrible if Elon throttled the accounts of gang rape apologists like BBC News?
	Freedom of speech, not freedom of reach and all of that.
	It'd be funny.
	It'd be funny.
	It would certainly be funny.
	Yeah.
	A guy from Hungary, Rupert Lowe sounds like George Sanders.
	Is Rupert Lowe controlled by academic agent?
	Since AAA's avatar is of George Sanders, so is AAA running things?
	No.
	No, he's not.
	I mean, it would be funny, but he's not.
	Strange thing to suggest.
	Jimbo, I made a comment yesterday about how the British government will eventually try and block X in the name of national security.
	Elon Opeling calling for MPs might to be jailed, might speed that up.
	They will use the pretense of him having an unwieldy influence over British politics for nefarious reasons.
	It'd be a bullsy move because no one in this country would accept them as the single source of truth.
	Yeah, I mean that would be that would be the way to do it.
	Jimbo again on my segment, the worst part about the Epstein stuff is that everyone knows, even when Joe Rogan put him on the spot and asked him whether he would release the files if elected, he gave a very slippery response, uncharacteristic of the Donald.
	I guess the Republic is just two teams ineffectively demanding the other swamp be drained every four years.
	Can be what American government looks like sometimes.
	Omar, the Epstein case is the tip of an iceberg or a mountain of icebergs that hardly anybody knows exists.
	Get occasional hints, conspiracy rumours or events like listings of images or furniture with the names of missing children.
	Lord Inquisitor Hector Rex, would you pardon Maxwell if it meant she could provide documents backing up all of her accusations?
	That's always a difficult one, isn't it?
	I mean, surely there are ways to get those from if she has them, there are ways to get them from her without excusing her.
	I'd pardon her and then as soon as she gives it back over, I would put her straight back into prison.
	Yeah.
	I rescind the pardon.
	There you go.
	Whoops.
	Yeah, that's always just a difficult balancing act of when you give people immunity or massive let off on their final conviction in return for more evidence?
	That's always a gray area.
	The problem would be that surely these crimes being international is that even if America gave her immunity, a lot of these crimes would probably have been committed on international soil.
	So could she just get extradited to one of those other countries and charged there if she revealed everything?
	If she spilled the whole beans, I'm sure Britain would want to charge her, your other European countries, possibly some of the possibly some states in the Middle East.
	Personally, I would strike a deal with her for more information if it turned out to be correct and useful for further investigations because the story is way bigger than her.
	The thing is way bigger than whether she serves 20 years in jail or not.
	I suppose, but it's just about people getting there just putting that for me.
	But I think we've gone on enough.
	We've got one last rumble rant that I'll read.
	That's a random name proof.
	The Autobots are great upon getting here.
	Optimus immediately learns English and starts taking out the rest of his illegal alien kind the moment they start causing trouble.
	One of the good ones.
	Yeah.
	Optimus can stay.
	And with that, I think that's all the time that we've got for today.
	Thank you for sticking around with us even 15 minutes rolling over.
	Hope you've enjoyed it.
	Bye Islander.
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