Hello and welcome to the podcast of Lotus Eaters episode 1239.
I'm your host, Harry, joined today by Carl.
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Today we're going to be talking about France's immigration curfews, how a wrestling company.
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well, nobody seems to be talking about it, but France is entering into a period where they're going into what I guess we can just call immigration lockdowns, as in cities are imposing curfews on young people between the hours of like 9 o'clock and 6 o'clock in the morning because of the problems of mass immigration.
Now, as you can see, France has had a vast amount of mass immigration.
I think there's some charts in here.
There we go.
So you can see that this is in the millions.
And this is from 2018.
I couldn't find any really good data, frankly.
Because France, for some reason, doesn't keep any track of the ethnic information of the people who they're letting into the country.
The ethnic information they have is very difficult to find for some reason.
I assume it comes from their sort of French Revolution Enlightenment perspective where it's like, ah, a man has.
set foot on France.
He is now a Frenchman and we are going to have the sort of hypernarrative of the liberal civic order imposed upon him.
Of course, the immigrants aren't really up and they don't really care about that, but it means that the French have much more difficulty actually collecting reliable figures than we do.
But anyway, as you can see, there are millions of people from Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia and various other African countries.
The number of European immigrants has remained the same or has shrunk a little bit.
But as you can see, France is getting the same basic problem that we have.
And again, just actually counting.
Counting the number of immigrants in France is something that's possible because at least they've got to give out the visas, but counting the number of white French people in France is much more difficult because they just don't keep this data.
But as of 2021, there were seven million immigrants living in France, which is 10.3% of the total population of 68 million allegedly 68 million.
4.1 million were foreign nationals and 2.4 million had acquired French citizenship.
Now again, that doesn't actually speak to how many French people are in France.
What that speaks to is how many legally French people were born overseas.
But anyway, so France has had real problems with crime.
Like this has been a ongoing thing for many years.
And it's the reason that Marine Le Pen's party is currently leading in the polls.
And it's got to the point now where they're just, no, we're just going to have curfews.
Just lockdowns for young people.
Is this one of the many benefits of multiculturalism I keep getting told about?
Yes, an overreaching tyrannical state.
I'm feeling enriched already.
Very, honestly, you're going to feel very enriched by the end of this.
So cities like Saint Oun, Béziers, Limoges, or Nime, I think it's pronounced.
I don't know.
Nime, is it?
Right, okay, I don't know.
Frog sounds.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Frog sounds.
They've imposed nighttime curfews for minors.
So the European Conservative reports, under these rules, young people cannot be out at night unless accompanied by an adult.
The official reason is to curb crime and drug trafficking that have taken over entire neighborhoods.
Many residents applaud it.
Others accept it with resignation, but everyone knows that there's a more profound message.
The state admits the streets are no longer safe, and the only guarantee to keep teenagers away from violence is to lock them up at home.
It's going great.
It's a very sad society when you have to crack down teenagers with curfews like that.
You know, instinctively I'm a sort of a liberal in the sense that, you know, I don't like restrictions from the state, but do they have any choice?
Is this an overreaction?
I don't know.
Well, they make a choice and then they let in millions and millions and millions of people and these are the consequences of those choices.
All of this originates from decisions that were made long ago and this is just the downstream effects of it.
The immigration chickens have come home to root in other words.
That is precisely what this is.
The Interior Minister recently described drug trafficking as, quote, an existential threat to France because it's such a huge problem.
You can imagine how this country, the drugs are grown in North Africa.
Funnelled across the Mediterranean through like Marseille and then into the rest of the country.
Or they come up through Spain and across the Pyrenees.
And this is a massive problem and there's a distinct ethnic dimension to it.
It's North African gangs or Albanian gangs doing it.
And so does France also have a problem with Albanian drug gangs?
Yeah, they do, actually.
What a shock.
It's not just Britain that has this problem.
But the European Conservatives say so what's surprising about this really is the response.
Because it's been going on for years.
Instead of reinforcing the authority of the state and cutting crime at its roots, the government has opted to contain measures that restrict measures that restrict citizens' freed freedom.
The curfews are a band-aid solution, a political gesture that's meant to reassure the population, but as some mayors openly admit with no tangible results.
Weirdly, this is going to sound really shocking, the drug traffickers don't care about the curfews.
Can't believe they're not respecting the rules.
And also it's for minors anyway, according to the headline at least.
So the adults who are taking advantage of young street.
No queues be rules in France then.
Right.
And so it doesn't solve any of the problems.
I guess it does protect young people from falling prey to the gangs, uh, in a way.
But again, the whole issue is we've brought a bunch of foreigners over, so now French teenagers are not allowed to go out at night.
It's like, thanks, thanks very much.
Is that fair trade?
It seems like a perfectly fair trade, doesn't it?
It's like, it's a horrific thing to have to do.
But again, it didn't used to be like this, you know, when, you know, when we were younger, it wasn't.
Is this not being mirrored in Sweden, Spain, Germany?
It just didn't used to be like this.
When I was a teenager, you didn't think about crime.
You just went out and had a good time with your mates.
Yeah, and did you?
You know, see, see, see if anyone looked old enough to buy some beers.
So, you know.
You know, I was shocked at 18 when someone smoked a spliff.
Yeah, right.
You know, shocked.
But like, we'd see if one of our mates who had a fuller beard than the rest could go and pass for an adult and not get IDed and buy some beers.
So we could drink beers in the local park.
Now it's like, no, you're not allowed out or the police will come and arrest you.
So anyway, yeah, I mean, obviously the issue and as they tell us is about immigration.
Even more worrying is the deliberate avoidance of addressing of the root causes.
Various studies point to the uncomfortable truth.
Mass uncontrolled immigration is closely linked to a rise in crime.
A recent report showed that a rate of involvement of African foreignigners in violent crimes is three times higher than that of French nationals.
So it's like, right, okay.
So we know the problem and we know who's doing it and you're going to have to stay in your house whether you like it or not.
And this is.
And the thing is, well, there's always this sort of, well, a multicultural pluralist state actually requires a very powerful leviathan to come and put the hand down hard on everything to make sure everything, frankly, doesn't blow up in everyone's faces.
Nobody asked for that.
France used to be quite a free country.
You used to be able to just live normally in France.
But now this has been sacrificed.
And this, again, but this doesn't solve any of the problems.
This isn't going to stop drug trafficking in France.
And it's not going to stop the people doing it.
And it requires, again, a certain level of consent from the community.
If you've got ethnic enclaves all around French cities, you think they're engaging in a curfew and they're young people?
Of course not.
How do you expect these people involved in drugs to play a straight back with anything, you know?
Exactly, but how do you expect communities who don't consider themselves to be French to give a damn what the French government's going to do?
send police in there?
Do you think there's going to be a mass community riot in this thing.
I mean, you're like, you know, it's just not worth our time.
I can see where this is going to.
Professor David Betts, you know, he's warning that he's a professor of modern warfare at King's College University.
Yeah.
He foresees civil war in Europe.
And not only does he see it in a country, once it kicks off in one country, it will spread throughout Europe.
Yeah.
The thing is, well, like this creates a two-tier society for the French.
Now you are living under regulations that don't really apply to these immigrant communities because the French government is going to be too scared to police them anyway.
So it's assuming you're going to cooperate and it doesn't solve any of the problems.
We've got two tier police in Britain again.
Yeah, exactly.
So the French are going to get two tier police as well.
Anyway, so this is happening everywhere.
The latest city to adopt such measures is Nimes, as you say.
Authorities there stated the curfew was aimed at protecting minors under 16 from exposure to violence and to reduce street tensions.
In recent weeks, several shootings have been reported, one of which occurred in broad daylight, leaving one person dead and several others, others, others, wounded.
Just like last week, a nineteen year old was found burned, as in the body had been burned, and it was found in the streets.
The mayor said the curfew was in effect from nine PM to six AM because the situation had become untenable.
The drug traffickers had created a climate of fear and terror.
I mean, I can't help but feel that there's a Baccalian solution to this.
There are drug traffickers, they're creating a climate of fear and terror.
What about the human rights of the law abiding people?
Ah no, you don't get human rights, you get locked up in your homes and they get the free run of the streets.
Well, indeed, it's one of those conundrums which we as a society and in France as a society have to vote on.
Where do we stand?
It does appear that if you go completely liberal, you will lose complete control of the streets.
Yes.
Where is the line between safety and security?
Europe has painted itself into such a bad corner at the moment that we don't know what we're doing, and it will only end badly for all of us.
Moreover, why is it that the rights of the criminals always have to trump the rights of the citizens?
That's the real issue, right?
The deputy mayor said that this is to preventvent children as young as twelve or thirteen from being exploited by drug traffickers.
It's like lock them up.
Lock them up.
God damn it, man.
You know, like, just the tyranny of human rights is causing this to come into existence.
Oh, indeed, yeah.
That's the problem.
I don't know what the criminal age of responsibility is in France.
But, you know, I'm sorry, if you're twelve thirteen and you're a drug mole, you should be in secure accommodation.
Sure, but like, if you're twelve thirteen and the streets are dangerous and this is a way of making money and finding some sort of protection, then I can understand why it would be a rational incentive to follow.
But the issue is there are adults doing this to these children.
Okay, find the adults, lock them up.
It's not about their human rights.
Screw their human rights.
At what point did people vote that American ghetto culture was something to be emulated?
Because what you're just describing there are the stories of countless children from ghettos who get drawn into these gangs because of the kind of circumstances that you're describing there, the atmosphere.
Yeah.
And this really is an excessively liberal position that France has been employing in their own country.
And now you can see this is the result.
This is the end result of unlimited fre human rights in all aspects of society.
This is where you come to.
Bézier has also enforced a similar curfew, which it did last year, which is slightly less draconian but still.
And despite these efforts, the problem continues.
And the thing is, there have been lots of shootings in Nîmes.
This is from 2023, this is from last month.
Like, it's no different really at all.
The 2023 one was obviously terrible.
But what's interesting is that these are not ethnically French people who are being shot.
The first victim is called Fayed, for example.
Syria, North African.
Exactly.
They're all North African gangs, not just Algeria, but the whole Maghreb, basically.
And a lot of people are getting caught in the crossfire.
There was a ten year old who just had the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Just caught in the crossfire.
That's a collateral damage that you get when you have gang wars in cities like that.
Yeah, it is.
And you'd think, okay, well, isn't it justified to literally just arrest them all and then sort it out afterwards?
Because this is literally to protect children in your city.
And yet, for some reason, it's still going on.
This is, like I said, from last month.
This was just a manhunt was underway because six people were shot.
Thankfully, none of them died.
because of a drug crime shooting in the thing.
These were these people weren't targets of the criminals either.
These were just stray bullets that were hit.
And police are like, Jesus Christ.
And so the gunman was on the loose.
I have no idea.
I'm followed up, so I don't know if he's still at large or anything.
But this this.
I'll follow it very quickly.
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
The murder rate in France is 50% higher than in Britain.
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's absolutely crazy.
This is an incredible story.
This sounds like something out of a movie, right?
This is from 2024.
Four hooded gunmen rammed a prison van with two vehicles and then opened fire, killing two guards and wounding several others.
Their objective was to free Mohamed Amra, a French criminal.
French doing a lot of heavy lifting, huh?
I don't know what you're talking about, Harry.
A lot of French criminals are called Mohamed, who's being transported from a court to a hearing in Rouen to a secure facility in Evrou.
After releasing Amra, the criminals fled in two cars which were later found burnt.
This attack sparked a massive manhunt, etc., etc.
But that that sounds like something from a movie, doesn't it?
It sounds like the beginning of a Batman movie.
No, Emma apparently, according to this article, is a lifelong criminal whose record dates back to when he was fifteen years old.
That's correct.
He's obviously someone you want in your community.
He should be on the streets.
Yeah, thank you for inviting him into France.
Yes.
He doesn't know any other way to live.
Yeah, he has links with a Marseille drug gang called The Blacks.
I don't know if that's Descriptive or not?
Yeah, but the point is, one senator said, We are not a narco state, but we are approaching a weakening of power that is a sign of a narco state.
So we're becoming a kind of Mexican style cartel fuel drug state.
It's well, open defiance of the rule of law here.
Yes.
Open defiance.
And just the power of the gangs is the issue.
Because this is the problem.
The French state is having real difficulties actually putting this stuff down.
It's like, okay, well, you know, you believed in the multicultural liberal paradise.
How's it working out?
And the answer is, not great.
Well, the big question is, what we as a continent Europe can do about it?
Well, there're going to be things that aren't very liberal, but they will require mass expulsions, frankly.
So why are there so, why are there millions of North Africicans in France.
The simple reason that Algeria was a French colony for Of course, yeah.
And the French thought that they could have the kind of flat, abstract view of citizenship, where it's just like, if you are named a French citizen, then you are French.
And so they tried to expand that to all of North Africa.
And the North Africans were like, No.
If you look at what Donald Trump has done with Washington, DC, apparently there were eleven days, it might have migrated even more, eleven days without a murder in Washington, DC.
I think he said in the National Guardian, you have to be robust.
You know, and once you cure the violence, you can then go back to being liberal againal again.
Yeah, and you can just have a free country again.
Yeah.
But you have to crack down on this hard.
I mean, Bukele showed everyone the way, right?
You know, the plummeting murder rate of El Salvador because he locked up like one percent of the country's population that was terrorizing the entire place.
And it's the same problem in France.
Yeah.
I mean, we've got an interesting sort of profile on France here.
If I can scroll down to the drug aspect of it.
And I just didn't realise how big a problem drugs were in France.
Heroin trafficking is prevalent in the country with networks involved in the trade, buying drugs from neighboring countries.
Heroin is mostly produced in Afghanistan and then transported to France via Belgium on the Netherlands before being redistributed.
The Northern Department of France, especially the city of Lille, is a major hub for heroin trafficking, while traffic from the Alps region is controlled by Albanian mafias.
Incredible.
And obviously there are other drugs, but they're the main problem drugs.
And then you can see a second route is via French Guiana, where cocaine is transported by road to Suriname and then flown to Paris using human mules or sent in cans through postal parcels.
So this is just brilliant and is required.
The French cities say, yep, we're just going to have to have these crackdowns.
Strikes us as a death spiral.
Yeah.
Yeah, it looks that way, especially as like the authorities have admitted, this hasn't worked.
It hasn't prevented the spread of drugs.
I mean, it's probably saved a few kids from being sucked into the gangs, but the gang members themselves are still on the streets, they're still at large, and nothing is being solved.
There are also other problems, it's not just violence and it's not just drugs.
You can imagine how things are going for French women these days.
We have a chart in this, which is pretty brutal.
twenty sixteen to twenty twenty three.
So in twenty sixteen and in twenty twenty three, I mean, it doesn't even fit the screen.
The number has more than doubled of sexual assaults on women.
So from 51,000 in 2016 to 114,000 in 2023.
This is pretty out of control.
I mean, nothing from JK Rowling on this.
Same with the Scottish woman, you know, the Scottish girl with the knife and the thing.
JK Rowling didn't mention it.
By the way, the British statistics are even more horrific.
Oh, I know.
I know.
Since 2000, there's been a ninefold increase in rape in this country.
Yeah.
And the spike began in 2014.
Yeah.
And in London in particular, there was a there was one particular graph that I just kept posting shitlibs on Twitter whenever they'd say, Oh, London's perfectly safe.
And it's a BBC graph that just shows sexual assaults have increased by four times in London.
It's like, is it?
Is it really?
Or is it that you're not a woman and you don't care about these things?
So yeah, the point being, things are going badly in France, and suddenly this puts into perspective how Marine Le Pen can be such an inevitable figure in French politics at this point.
It's like, you know.
Are they going to allow, are they going to allow, well, they obviously banned her from stating her party though.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, who knows what kind of underhanded things they're going to do, you know, to try and stop them from me.
But the reason that Europe seems to be going to the right is because things are falling apart.
I mean, it's not just bad here, it's really bad there.
I mean, and the thing is, France just seems far more violent.
Like the level of violence that these gangs are perpetrating, like things are bad here, but this is way worse to me.
And so it's no great surprise that they have to try and do something.
But curfews are, of course, not going to work.
The only thing that's going to work is sending these people home.
The other thing about the French government is their welfare is quite generous.
Is it even, if not more generous than ours?
So why force yourself to get a proper job, you know?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, France, just like Britain, is riddled with problems.
But, yeah, so we'll leave that there.
The Engaged View says, how do you say enrich me harder in French?
I did just look that up on Google when I saw it.
Apparently it's enricher moi plus fort.
Oh, very good.
So there you go.
You've learned something.
Yeah.
Logan says, wait, can't France, with its famous foreign legion, absorb all this new manpower, willing or not, and then retake the empire?
These people are people that you doubtless cannot make do something useful with their time uh i can't imagine for a second that the french government would benefit by training and arming them.
I mean, that's got to be a bad idea, right?
Yeah, no, that won't be a good idea.
The other major worry with France is because of the Mediterranean, it's far easier bringing guns to France on the south coast.
I've seen AK-47s brandished in the states in Marseille.
Yeah, Marseille is crazy.
not just that though, there's overland routes as well.
Again, it's just far easier to get into France than it is to get into...
I suppose there's probably quite a bit of corruption going on as well so no doubt yeah yeah so but no we uh you know it's uh there will be difficult times ever for the euro you know rest assured of that yeah I mean, we think it's bad in Britain, and it is.
But it's also bad everywhere else.
I think ours could end up getting far worse in the future.
I just get that impression.
Yeah, there's definitely a strong feeling of I've had enough of all of this.
Alex says, when are we going to draw a line between the leftists having real epiphanies about crime and immigration versus those just figuring out which way the wind is blowing and trying to avoid a possible future justice?
Well, I'm not sure we will be able to draw any lines like that, I'm afraid.
One of the eternal problems with these kind of revolutions is you get a bunch of people suddenly like Homer Simpsoning back into the bushes and then coming back and it's like, you know, the point is at least it's going in our direction.
But sorry, let's carry on.
Well, well, so we got a super chat from Homeworld who was just asking what happened to the intro slash outro music.
Yeah, that was why I was shifting my Oh right, yeah.
Because it was blocking.
Oh yeah, right, it's right there.
We don't want to miss those.
I don't know.
I know.
Has anything gone on with the intro, outro music, Samson?
Yeah, when we first started on YouTube, we were just like, okay, we'll buy that tune and that's totally fine.
And at some point in the intervening years, they've decided to copyright claim that music on YouTube, so we can't, like, monetize this.
Well, I have some original music.
Well, you can happily buy the copyright.
Why not?
That's the thing, Harry.
You know, so you need to write us some new intro music.
I could try and do something like that.
Yeah, why not actually?
I did write like an ambient synth wave song five years ago.
I can try and dig up the files for that and maybe see if we can do something with it.
Exactly.
That's why the intro music's gone, because YouTube's just starting to strike us.
I didn't know that.
Xavier says, gaday.
Don't forget there'll be a countrywide pro-Australia protest on the 31st of August, Deus Vault.
I strongly agree, says my good friend.
And the world needs a European Donald Trump.
Yeah, unfortunately, there's not going to be a European Donald Trump.
Also, I know we've got the EU, but Europe is not a series of United States like the United States anyway.
You'd really need some kind of major coordination going on between all of the European leaders, all pushing in the same direction, which sounds like herding cats to me.
Yeah.
Frankly.
I mean, it definitely is.
Anyway, we'll carry on.
Yes.
All right, so this story's been blowing up on the internet a little bit.
So being the resident wrestling guy in the office, I thought it would be appropriate for me to cover.
There was a video that goes with this, but frankly, I don't know if it's appropriate to show on YouTube and it appears that maybe our Lotus Eater's account isn't age verified.
Let me see.
Oh no, it isn't.
So we can't watch the video, which is probably just as well because it is pretty brutal.
Because you may have already come across this.
Now what this is related to is a small wrestling organization called Knox Pro who are or were, as we'll see, affiliated with WWE.
They are run by ex-WWE wrestler Rikishi, who if you watched the Attitude Era, you might be familiar with.
And this was a wrestling event where as part of it, there was a streamer, Raja Jackson, the son of the former UFC, I think, lightweight champion, Rampage Jackson, was involved in an altercation.
It's a good name, Rampage Jackson.
He seems level-headed.
Well, no, it's his son.
Yeah, I know, but like, does the apple fall far from the tree?
Well, I mean, the people have been mischaracterizing somewhat Rampage's reaction to this whole thing, saying that he was basically villainous, victim blaming the guy that his son almost killed but if you actually watch what he's been saying he's basically saying no it's my son's fault I'm just realizing what he's been saying and it's in a quite unfair way.
But basically what happened was in the video itself, you can find this if you're if you've got strong stomach, this guy, Roger Jackson, jumps into the ring, picks up a guy whose stage name is Psycho Stew, his name in real life is Stewart Smith, lifts him up, body slams him, a really harsh looking one, and then proceeds to punch him directly in the face.
Apparently he was unconscious.
Yeah, while he's unconscious.
He looked unconscious.
twenty two times in a row.
Now, for those of you who may not be aware, I'd like you to hold on to your hats because this might be a shock to you.
But professional wrestling is fake.
It's what's known as a work.
The performers are cooperating with each other to put on a show and simulate violence.
Now, this doesn't mean it doesn't hurt.
There's enough wrestlers who've gotten addicted to painkillers over the years to tell you that it does hurt.
That wrestling mat is a thin piece of padded fabric over wooden boards.
So if you have your head slammed hard enough against it, it hurts.
And you can break your back and do all sorts of things.
This was not fake.
This was not planned.
He knocks him out and then brutally takes advantage of him.
It's what's known in the business as chat believes you.
Everyone's convinced that now I'm joking.
Listen guys, Hulk Hogan slamming Andre.
Yeah, that was impressive.
Very strong thing to do.
They'd agree.
They know.
They know.
Yes.
So the audience is well aware we're all on the same page now.
So he was taking liberties with him and there's been a lot of people trying to justify it.
Mainly Roger Jackson is black.
Mainly a lot of people online, black communities on Twitter and elsewhere online have been trying to justify it or make excuses or say that it's psycho Stu's fault because of an altercation that took place before the event.
But let me see if I can find it.
Just as some context as well, people have been pointing out that this Raja Jackson fellow has tried...
Yeah, I mean, it was horrific.
You can see he's bleeding from his ears, as well as his nose and his eyes.
He suffered multiple broken bones in the face and jaw.
Didn't he get a bunch of teeth knocked out?
Yes, and a number of teeth were knocked out.
He was choking on his teeth.
Thankfully, we can confirm the guy is alive and he is conscious as far as I'm aware.
But this was completely uncalled for liberties taken when this guy in real life, you know, he's trained for MMA, UFC style fighting, but his professional record is zero to one.
Yeah.
He's not won an actual professional MMA fight.
I think he had a few victories as an amateur.
So this just seems like the impotent rage of a failure who can't emulate his father's success being taken out on this guy.
And there are videos that seem to confirm that.
It's so brutal to watch as well, man.
I saw the video going around Twitter like everyone.
And he just lifts him up, slams him down.
It looks like he knocks him out because he bangs his head down on it.
Again, if you do that, you can knock yourself out on those things.
It's only a thin padding.
Yeah.
And then he just starts smashing him in the face.
It's terrific.
People started to ask why that was.
Yeah, why did he do that?
And now I'll see if the clip...
I apologize for those of you who may be watching with families.
is some foul language here.
What the fuck is playing with me, bro?
Real fuck.
One of them little bitches bit me.
I'm tired of everybody playing with me.
I think I'm always playing.
Call me.
Yeah.
At the end of the day, I'm going to stand up for myself.
Because I'm tired of everybody playing with me, bro.
Look at this face.
Come on, man.
I'm just walking away from all this.
Come on, Roger.
Let's go.
Let's go, Roger.
Let's go.
Roger, let's go.
on kick, and unfortunately for him, let's see if the, will this be age restricted?
Yeah, here's a bunch of clips put together to show the full context.
I won't show everything here, because it's about four minutes long, but this should give an indication.
So there's behind the scenes, they're backstage, talking, this guy here with the beard and the belly is Psycho Stu, who he assaulted later on, and Stu seems to be under the misapprehension that he's involved in the work, and And so he picks up a can and smacks it against his head.
And it seems for a little bit like they managed to sort it out and shake hands and apologize.
He's not a worker, bro.
Yeah, what's that?
You don't sell it?
No, he's not a fucking worker.
So you're going to sell it, selling means make it look like it hurts.
So he thought he was a violent person.
and he wasn't.
It was a mistake.
He always thinks that we're working over here like it's part of the story.
What kind of hell was that?
I don't know.
I'll leave it rampant.
That's how he is.
No, no, no, bro.
No, he's apologizing straight away.
He always thinks it's a work.
He's already hot.
Good.
I'm sorry, bro.
It's going to all work out.
Yeah.
So it looks like they've apologized.
And what he agrees to do after this is he says, we'll give you a receipt.
Within the business, if somebody's in the ring and they're supposed to throw a punch at you and just fake it, and they actually clock you in the face and maybe break something or just really hurt you and start taking liberties, you're justified in giving what's called a receipt where you give it back just as good as you get but you're only supposed to give as good as you get you're not supposed to take liberties the way that he did so it was supposed to be you get to go in the ring i'll let you give me a body slam and you can get one hit in we're even
That was the agreement.
And then the problem for Raja, because I don't believe he's been arrested yet, is that, well, he was live streaming on kick the entire time.
So some people have tried to say that, oh, well, they said he could punch as much as he wanted.
So it's justified, right?
Well, actually, he was sat there by ringside talking to his chat the entire time live on stream, Talking about how he was going to take liberties with this guy...
and saying, hey, how much do you pay me to beat his ass?
I'm going to stream.
Incriminate myself.
If he hits me back for real, I don't give a damn I want him to.
You all want me to tbag him?
Do people think that Wait, people think game?
Hey, you're right, Joel.
I gotta show some form of respect.
Train no goddamn martial arts.
I'm really going to hit him.
I'm telling you.
What should I do, chat?
Should I pick him up?
Should I slam him first or hit him?
W, if I should slam him first.
You don't think I can do it, Miggy, my dad can never call me a bitch.
Dude.
Oh, you think he's stronger than me?
Alright, Suave, watch.
Shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up, Suave.
Let's be talking like this if he was in front of me.
Chad, watch what I do to you.
Tony, I'm going to show you.
I'm going to show you, Tony.
A few moments later.
I'll tell you guys this.
They told me to hit him and just leave.
Somebody will pull me off of him and leave.
I'm telling you.
I'm going to hit him as many times as I can.
Watch.
No, they didn't tell me to fake him.
They said I could hit him for real.
Okay, well, that's as much incriminating...
Yeah, there you go.
I'm going to hit him as many times as I can.
And then he..
goes and does.
They said I could hit him once.
Well, I'm going to hit him as many times as I can.
Okay, great.
You've just incriminated yourself.
You absolute moron.
While coming across like the most insecure bitch imaginable, you can see like he shook hands with him.
As far as like honorable gentleman's agreement goes, it was a mistake.
Here's how we're going to make it up to you.
We've shook on this.
I've apologized.
You've accepted the apology.
That's as far as it goes.
You go in, you get your extra hit in, and then you leave.
It's all part of the show, right?
But he is legitimately furious.
And you can hear, he sees this as, and it seems to stem from his dad as well.
He's like, my dad can't call me a bitch anymore over this.
It sounds like maybe after he lost his one professional match that he was in, that his dad may have made a joke or two.
And he's just decided, this is how I'm going to get you back, dad.
Just as a dad, don't ever do that to your son.
Even if he loses, you've got to be supportive.
He's a very, very angry man who has taken his frustrations out on life on that wrestler.
That's terrible.
That's appalling behaviour.
I've actually seen the clip itself.
20, 22 hits he gives the guy.
That's absolutely disgraceful.
But the thing is, now I'm actually starting to feel a bit bad for him, right?
Because if he okay, you go for a professional MMA match and you lose, okay, fair enough, that happens, right?
And if your dad then insults you after that, I can see that.
That's just speculation on my part, but it's what it comes across.
It's what it comes across.
It's not motivation, is it?
If that's the case, it's not it's not just it's not just bad when like a random person does it, it's, you know, okay, thanks, buddy.
You know, but your dad is obviously the person you look up to the most.
I think these most MMA fighters and professional boxers I've met are the most passive people you'll ever meet.
They're so laid back.
Well, they should be.
Yeah.
Because they're dangerous people.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I know.
But I think they're naturally like that too.
They don't train themselves to be passive.
They actually are like that from all the violence that they beat out in the ring, you know, they do in training and things like that.
No, it's the antidote to their aggression.
They save all their aggression from the ring.
It's like when I was young, I'm relatively passive myself.
You give me a pair of football boots, I've become the most nasty person in the world.
I'm Nobby Starves on steroids, you know.
We'll be with Vinnie Jones on steroids.
Yeah, that's what I'm like on Twitter, to be honest, man.
I'm joking.
James Lindsey knows.
Well, yeah, someone's got to do it too.
So yeah, that's what I saved my aggression for.
And I've learned to be passive on Twitter to Alex.
I know you do have to be too.
Sorry, carry on.
Yeah, but you know, his, like Rampage Jackson's been spoken about this in this little clip.
It's summed up pretty well here.
He says, Don't condone what my son did.
I'm going to let justice play out.
Wish I could have been there.
Hopefully one day I can meet Psycho Stu and shake his hand.
I hope he can forgive me as a dad for not understanding everything.
Exactly, that's as good a statement on it as you can possibly hope for.
Yeah, like you learn that your son has brutally assaulted someone like this.
Again, I've not seen anything where it seems like Rampage Jackson has been condoning this or trying to make excuses for it at all.
So respect to him for that.
Also amusingly, people found this clip from him a month ago or earlier on this very month, where he said that he's got, you know, he's got children from different mothers.
He's got two kids who were just like black Americans like him, and two kids who were like half Japanese.
And he was just saying like, Oh yeah, you know, I know my Japanese kids are going to college, so I'm saving up college money for them.
But with Raja and my other one, you know, I'm saving up bail money for them.
So it's like, it's like he already knew that they were going to do something stupid, or at least Raja was going to do something stupid, which, uh, which doesn't look good on Raja's part, where even his dad's like, Yeah, he's going to get into some kind of trouble.
one of these days.
There is a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy aspect to this as well.
It's not going to be the first time he said something like that to him.
Yeah.
Surely as a father, he obviously spotted what's going on here.
Surely as a father, he should have done something about it in a more positive way.
And notice how in the previous one he's like, I hope he forgives me as a father right now.
He actually invokes that himself.
So this is obviously something that's been on his mind.
Yeah.
I imagine when something like this happens, you begin to ask yourself where you could have done better.
What you could have done better to avoid your son getting in a situation like this.
The wrestlers involved, this was one of the wrestlers who pulled Jackson off of PsychoStu has basically just said like, what the hell are you doing?
We're not trained to fight martial arts.
This whole thing is a work.
Like, you don't do that to somebody.
You're acting like a bully and you come across like a coward, calls him a little bitch.
So again, if Jackson wanted to come across less like a little bitch, this has completely backfired in his face.
But one of the most disconcerting things about this situation is that the wrestlers involved have stated that Knox Pro, the company that was holding this event in the first place, have said that they do not want the people involved in the incident to speak to the police and that there is a specific group of people within the company who will be speaking to the police on their behalf which seems like what they want to do is sweep this under the rug.
Wrong.
Yeah.
Wrong.
Which pretty despicable behavior.
Again, just a quick thing.
Why do they think that not enough people know about it or something?
You know, they think, oh, we can keep this under wraps.
It's like everyone knows.
Yeah, and the police have more...
more than enough information and evidence that was live-streamed to thousands of people at the time to be able to condemn and convict Roger Jackson when eventually they arrest him.
As far as I can tell from the information that's available online right now, it looks like he's not been arrested yet, which is shocking because I mean, oh.
He should be facing time.
I think it's LAPD, isn't it?
Los Angeles.
So, you know.
Well, yeah, I suppose they're afraid that if they arrest him, that people might start rioting, which is, to be fair, something to be concerned about.
As Keith Woods pointed out himself, his post, his original post, which is where I saw this, got 25 million views and out thousands of comments, most of the ones from black commenters were almost universally defending his actions.
And even, and I used to watch this guy when I was a kid, Mark Henry, who's a former world champion, came out to defend him, saying that Psycho Stu deserves the blame for the incident which as somebody who's worked within wrestling that is a remarkable thing for him to say i can't imagine anybody else within pro wrestling saying that he did it to himself yeah or was asking for it or deserved the blame obviously the
incident that began it in the first place was a mistake him smashing the can against his head was a mistake but they had already resolved that everything that happened after that was not what they agreed nobody else but jackson is to blame for that this is like the carmelo antony thing right yeah where it's like there's a kind of in group loyalty that's being expressed here i mean at least there' his dad isn't doing it.
At least his dad is like, you know, justice should be served.
It seems to me that there are some people here who aren't being very objective.
Yes.
Yeah, well, it reminds me of, you know, I've seen people, Indians on Twitter defending the actions of that lorry driver killed people.
It's ridiculous how there is a certain portion of No, sorry, it goes further than that, right?
With that, he did a fundraiser and like, not, yeah, not a fundraiser, sorry, there was a petition and like a million people signed this petition trying to get him, you know, some sort of commuted sentence.
He killed people.
Yeah, I know, but he didn't know what he was was doing.
He was just trying to help his family.
It was an accident.
Jesus.
And a million of them signed it.
I'll make a video on it, a segment on it.
Because it's a wild example.
It's mad.
And they've got loads of video comments on the petition of them saying the same rhetoric, just the same thing over and over.
And it's like, and they're all just, they're just Indians who are just like, well, he's an Indian, therefore we would like him off.
And it's like, look, we're not ready for this kind of tribalism.
Yeah, they look at it from the perspective of, is this good for us?
If he goes down, no, then he's one of ours.
Yeah, then we'll make sure he doesn't go down.
Yeah, I did, I talked very briefly, the worst example of.
of what you just described there happened after the Oxford trial where seven Pakistani heritage men were jailed for grooming gangs.
One of the independent local imams said the local imams actually encouraged the men to go out there and abuse the white working-class girls actually in sermons in mosques.
Jesus Christ.
But again, this is being investigated by the police right now.
Psycho Stew, Stuart Smith has regained consciousness.
And one of the things that really makes this even worse, sadly, not to end on a down note or anything is that this article talks about how Smith is a military veteran who joined Knox Pro in 2009 after retiring from service.
In a prior promotional clip released by the Wrestling Academy, he'd said that he suffers from PTSD and began wrestling as a means to give him something to focus on as he adjusted back into civilian life.
So this was his way of coping with PTSD, basically.
And this This guy, this nobody, this son of some famous guy who can't achieve anything by himself, has just come in like a wrecking ball and completely ruined his life.
It's a completely disgusting thing.
And he needs to go to prison for this for years.
And the final note is that Nox Pro, as a result of all of this, seems to have removed all WWI-D branding from their social media, presumably because after seeing what happened and how they handled it, WWE have decided they don't want anything to do with this academy anymore.
So again, this whole incident has not only ruined...
Yes, he's been banned from Kik.
He's ruined multiple people's lives and this whole company because of the way that they've...
So not a very nice story, frankly.
Yeah, I mean, I watched this video.
The thing that really bothers me is just how merciless this guy is.
Like, it's just horrific, man.
It's absolutely horrific.
It's a horrible, torture tale, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
To tell the truth, I was reading about it on the first time on the way up here.
I was absolutely appalled.
Yeah, it's horrific.
That's just unmitigated nasty violence without reason.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thrednought says, Buy Harry's music, get a new intro and outro.
He's been whining about you not using his music for years.
Well, there we go.
We will.
Have I been whining?
I don't think you've been whining.
I don't think I've ever whined about it.
But I'll try, honestly, I'll try and write something for it.
Might be, might work out.
Yeah, do it, man.
Just make something quite nice and we'll use it.
Threadnought says, I'll prove I'm not a little bitch.
I'll suck a punch and murder this guy like a little bitch.
That'll teach him for accidentally offending me.
Yeah, exactly.
Sorry.
I don't think cultural warfare ends at immigration.
Multiple side-ups like live streaming create a completely useless generation.
Man, there is there is there is there is something about like the walking around live streaming type that it just encourages.
The IRL streamers.
Yeah, the IRL streamers.
That's it.
Yeah.
That just encourages like I get to live vicariously through this.
guy instead of going outside.
Yeah, and everyone then just, you know, feeding them money to do something really stupid and you get really stupid things happening and it's just bad.
Carmelo Antony stabbed Austin Metcalfe because he was disrespectful.
Yeah, and then he got loads of money from a community that thinks that's acceptable.
Thanks Ford, keep up the great work, lads.
Thanks for, I think you mean thanks for the great work.
Keep it up.
Thank you very much, Wilde.
In James Lindsay's Woke White meltdown, he called the Dominion Society a virus only to get ratioed by the founder.
Nature is healing, long live Canada.
I still couldn't believe he tried to make a connection between like the white working class of England putting up flags and literal Nazi ideology.
There was nowhere else he could go.
It was the special pleading.
I mean, who's like, that's literally woke, James.
Literally, his like, Well, the Jews are a special case because they were oppressed historically, and therefore you're not, and that's very woke.
It's a specific woke argument.
All he has to fall back on are some woke arguments.
It's very That's why I kept pushing it because it's like, you've got nowhere to go here.
That's the only rationale you can use.
But Manner says, You're telling me wrestling is fake?
Next you're going to say that CNN is not the most trustworthy name in news.
We're going to get to that in a minute.
Data Republican had a great X thread on the difficulty of reporting refugees from Afghanistan, thank you very much.
Time to raise the dragon banner and declare the rebirth of the Free Saxon nation of Wessex now.
Well, we'll see.
We'll see about that.
But I'm glad people are bringing that up because I wanted to go to something that's actually a lot more wholesome, right?
A lot more.
Like, I can't help but feel everything's kind of going our way.
Like, and I really think it comes down to social media.
I really think, I mean, you may remember back in 2022 when Elon Musk was like, actually, I'm buying Twitter not because it's going to make me money, but because I genuinely think it's an important free speech platform for just discourse in the West.
And he literally says this is not a way to make money.
My strong intuitive sense is that having a public platform that is maximally trusted and broadly inclusive is extremely important to the future of civilization.
I think he's right.
I mean, look at the pressure that the online right has been able to assert recently on basically anyone.
I mean, like, from your own experiences, how do you guys think Twitter is going at the moment?
I think it is certainly the number one news app that's on your phone at the moment.
It's been number one for months now.
Something like 85% of influencers in the alternative media use X as their main platform to advertise themselves.
I personally won't go to TikTok or anything else.
I'll just stick with X and YouTube kind of thing.
The thing I really wanted to say, what I'll say to you guys was, slightly varying away here, I've been on, well, I've been on BBC, BBC World Service twice.
A producer told me there were 55 million people listening each time.
55 million worldwide.
Oh yeah.
I've defended smokers, right?
Right, right, right.
That's the background to start my broadcasting career.
But I'll tell you this, when I got the invitation for Lotus Eaters two or three years ago for my first appearance, I was more pleased with that than I was appearing on the BBC World Service.
Glad to hear it.
Oh, thank you.
Well, the thing is, I think that Twitter's going really, really well.
And a Pew study has confirmed that indeed, people are, the people who are involved in and paying attention to this sort of ecosphere very much are using Twitter.
And this, I think, is really important for the nature of the discourse.
Because, I mean, you'll remember five years ago what Twitter was like.
It was a hive of leftists saying, yeah, we need to kill all white men, and that's a good thing, and they'll be completely unchallenged.
And now, I mean, I see these posts every day where they're like, my God, this is a right wing hell hole.
It's like, that's great.
My God, this is a right wing hell hole.
That's wonderful, right?
But yeah, it's a huge number.
Seventy percent of people who just are independent people are on Twitter.
Nearly forty percent of adults under thirty now turn to influencers for news, leaving traditional outletss at the dust.
And one in five Americans rely on citizen journalists to stay informed.
So these are really large numbers.
And this is why I think right-wing narratives are actually filtering down into the mainstream and becoming a part of just normal conversations.
Look how far right the Overton windows moved.
If you talked about re-emigration two, three years ago, you'd be hung, drawn and quartered, and you'd be dead to the wolves.
Now we're openly talking about it.
And the thing I would say about X is that I've got a quite lively and extensive account.
And as I showed you before, where else for 6, 6 pounds 99 a month can you get one billion views of your work?
Yeah, you showed me your numbers, wasn't it like lifetime views?
That's one year.
Yeah, well, one year.
One billion views.
One billion views.
It's good.
I don't know how many I get.
Okay.
I don't use it that much.
Sorry, go ahead, come on.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Probably out of that, probably one to five percent are probably worthy and noteworthy and what have you.
So, no, I, I, let me give an example.
I think the perfect example where social media has worked particularly well with X. What?
I've only had 788 million impressions.
So more impressions than I have.
Yeah.
Well, I do about 30 tweets a day.
So I try not.
No, you know, I go for the big ones.
Charlie Peters on GB News has obviously done a cracking job.
He's got the National Inquiry for the Girls.
he showcased and highlighted the victims and survivors but where I think that came from the The other one is it brings in the viewers and things like that.
Now, where the viewers come in.
from people like myself and maybe Toby Robinson who have been highlighting the girls' plights for years and years and years.
I probably did my first tweet on it ten years ago around the time of the Rochdale trailings kind of thing.
And we've talked about it week in week out.
And GBNOs and talk TV to a certain extent know full well that that will bring in the viewers.
So it's social media that's transformed itself to the mainstream media.
Yeah.
Well, they're very much downstream.
I mean, think about the Scottish girl with the axe and the knife, right?
Yeah.
If we only had the mainstream or leftist controlled social media to rely on, would we have seen this like would this have been a mega viral story that would actually really emphasize the plot and again these are American numbers as well I mean ofcom have their own numbers in Britain obviously 96% of adults just in the country do something 70% of online news is on par with TV they say and six and ten adults claim to use some sort of online intermediary
so social media or a search engine or news aggregator for their news so this this is the way that people are going to get this and of course there's an age cohort here so eight and ten sixteen to twenty four year olds are using online media to get their news, whereas obviously The boomers are much more offline, right?
Well, they're on Facebook, aren't they?
A lot of them are, yeah.
But even then, they don't necessarily use that for news.
They'll watch Fox News or Sky News or whatever, BBC.
But the great thing about this, and this is what I mean when I say that this is genuinely important for narrative, because the concept of narrative control, again, go back about five years, the left had this sewn up.
You know, they would have, nope, we're going to censor this, we're going to censor that.
I mean, that's why we stopped streaming on YouTube for a long time, right?
They were very, very insistent on using the platforms that they had for narrative control.
But Elon Purchasing X really seems to have burst a bunch of bubbles.
I mean, it seems trivial, right?
And it can be used in trivial ways.
But the community notes feature is actually spectacular because millions of people are now seeing that Keir Starmer has lied over something, again, really trivial.
The bus fare cap is not three percent but two pounds, whatever it is, right?
So it's very trivial stuff.
But this kind of stuff is very useful because it actually intrinsically limits the power and the persuasive power of the old media and the controllers of the old platforms.
Like they can't just spread a lie out because actually you've got a way of pushing back against it.
Is it the reason the Guardian were quit X because they were Yeah, they kept getting community noted.
And that exactly right.
So, I mean, any any function of a platform that can drive the Guardian over to blue sky, I fully support.
You know, get those people out of the discourse.
Because they're just there.
I mean, literally, them leaving is an admission that they were just there to poison the well anyway.
Right.
But then you've got amazing community notes like this from the Conservatives.
Britain is our home, not a hotel.
And then community notes, well, the Tories opened up these bloody hotels in 2022.
Like, you can't just memoryhole things anymore.
I love the fact that Bo just said, be quiet, you're done.
But you can't just memory hold these things anymore, right?
So the fact that everyone, it used to be back in the day, we had like siloed platforms where we would talk about the things that bother us, but it was difficult to make that come, you know, inject that into the mainstream.
Well, now, through these sorts of tools, the fact that Elon does want a free speech platform, the fact that he introduced community notes, actually allows us to just completely drive the discourse.
And we've seen this loads of times, but this is an amazing example, right?
sky news talking about the great replacement now can you imagine sky news putting out a segment like this say five years ago A snapshot of Britain in the 80s, beach goers in the seaside town of Bournemouth, a place which has always been a magnet for holidaymakers and seasonal workers.
Fast forward to the final days of this summer and the change is undeniable.
In the Bournemouth area between the 2011 and 2021 censuses, the non-British-born population went up by 47% and immigration everywhere has risen significantly since then.
On the seafront we find immigration is something white British people want to talk about but not openly and not on camera.
Can you imagine that being a segment that Sky News or as Dan wouldn't call Sly News?
Did Sky News Australia take over recently or something?
Right?
But the thing to remember is that all of the journals are on Twitter.
And so not only are they not now in a left wing echo chamber, but they're also seeing, I mean, there are still lots of leftists on Twitter.
I've noticed that recently.
I mean, Blue Sky has been on the decline and you can see like they coming back on Twitter.
You can see, you know, my feeds giving me more and more lefty twats, frankly.
Each one of them with an inexplicable 100,000 likes on there, but almost like they've just paid for a nice pop 100,000 likes.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to allow this, right?
I'm sore of people yelling butter, butter, butter, right?
That's it's such a code.
It definitely happens.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but you can't prove it.
And there are lots of leftists still on Twitter.
I can't prove it, but I have a gut instinct.
Sure, but it's also a code.
And there are lots of leftists still on Twitter.
And so it's entirely possible that they get viral.
I don't doubt that, but viral to the point of a consistent hundreds of thousands of likes every single time.
Yeah, that Evan guy.
Yeah.
And then he tried to ratio me once and more.
I've been to HBO Me once and must have forgotten and his post got like 15 likes and I was like, Ooh, oh, just didn't feel like chilling out that extra tenor to get me, did you, Evan?
You're not important enough yet.
I think the Islamists and the extreme left have given up with me to a certain extent.
Yeah.
I don't.
I don't know I'll never change.
Yeah.
But the point being, and again, it's every day I'll see a new tweet by some guy, some, some person with a Pride flag, a socialist rose, and then the EU flag going, This has become a Nazi hellhole.
It's gone to I can't believe this is just a right wing echo chamber now.
And I'm like, That's so good.
And you'll give it a like, but not for the reason he wants.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, like.
The abusive ones, I retweet.
Yeah.
I repost them.
Dave, you're a see you something something.
I repost them.
And then you need to let my followers dive in and then they pick him off, you know.
So that's a lesson learned.
But the point is, I think this Sky New segment would never have been possible if it wasn't for the online right and the discourse that has been, frankly, you know, I'm just saying, look, I'm just going to let you have free discourse, have free reign, talk about things.
And it wouldn't have been possible if it wasn't for the online right actually having this kind of platform and this ability to do this.
The left is right that censorship actually does work.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
And at the moment we're winning, aren't we?
Yeah, we are.
Yeah, at the moment we're completely winning.
But again, this segment, the journalists themselves are at a point now where they know they can't deny it.
They can see everyone around sees, and the only thing left to do is follow the incentive.
Okay, well, everyone's talking about this.
Everyone's watching us doing this.
Well, if we want some of those eyeballs and our numbers have been going down slowly but steadily, well, we're going to have to engage with it.
And so the narrative control is what is honestly coming back to our way.
I mean, like Nigel Farage is a great example of this, right?
Was it six months ago on Stephen Edgington where he's like, no, mass deportations are not possible.
They're not my ambition.
It's never going to work.
And now Nigel Farage is there in front of the giant British flag saying, no, we're going to deport six hundred thousand in the first year and that's the start of it.
You know, it's like, look, this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for us.
Yeah, everyone else is now playing catch up on that.
Exactly.
And now I've got, look at that.
Look at this.
When Nigel Farage moans on the sidelines, Labour is getting on with the job of delivering.
And what's the job?
Remove over thirty five thousand people from the UK with no right to be here.
And now it's BS, right?
right there's probably a community note on this no there's not yet but um but the point is this is the competition now who can deport the most nigel farage is promising 600k i like the idea of 600k better than 35k kier you better you know tick tock tick tock if you want my vote you're gonna have to crank that number up mate you know farage has promised five deportation flights today how many are you promising kier I think Nigel Farage is holding the aces and, you know, pre-flop.
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.
No, I...
The dialectic is with us.
I know.
I'm loving it.
right now, yeah.
Yeah, we're driving the dialectic.
Yeah.
Because we are talking about the real things actually benefit the people of this country rather than trying to falsely impose a narrative that everyone knows is bad for us.
And so this is great.
This is just really great.
There will be a reaction, of course, I mean the Online Safety Act, which is why we couldn't see the thing from the last segment.
This is an issue.
And I don't know what the Americans are going to do about it.
Donald Trump seems fairly unbothered by it.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, the American Trump administration.
Yeah.
is apoplectic about this.
I appreciate the administration is, and I'm glad that they are, but it's weird that Trump himself doesn't seem to be that fussed about it.
I think he delegated it.
Did he delegate it to JD Vance?
Yeah, oh no, no, no doubt.
But like Trump knows that a large part of his success was online media.
I mean, he's he's thanked his keyboard warriors, right?
And so going when he was in Scotland, he was asked about the impact of the Online Safety Act on Truth Social, his own social media platform.
And he said, quote, Well, I don't think Starmer's going to censor my site because I only say good things.
Will you please uncensor my site?
It's like I would have thought that Donald Trump would have been more aggressive.
I think he's diplomatic.
I'm sure he is.
I think it's like the old duck, you know, serenely swimming on the pond.
The old leg is going 24 and the dozen underneath.
Believe me, there's a group of lawyers.
One is Preston Byrne, the other one is Ron Coleman.
They're representing some of the tech companies.
And believe me, they will be taken off coma part.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Well, fingers crossed.
I mean, it does mention this.
Proving the main stuff, but I don't know.
Yeah, but they've said it openly.
But that's good.
And you are right.
JD Vans has been much more firm on this than Trump.
the question is where is this going to go?
I mean...
like they used to, just mass de-platform people from saying this.
The government is putting this into place, frankly, to try and get control of the narrative again.
And so I saw AA complaining about it, saying, well, look, the British government should have the sovereignty to be able to do this.
Okay, if they do, then we have many more problems than we would otherwise have.
If the Americans are somehow able to force Ofcom's hand, right?
It will have real and dramatic consequences.
I foresee a complete white flag from Starbucks and Ofcom.
Oh, fingers crossed.
I mean, that's one.
I'm looking for it logically.
I can't see any other way that they can do it because, you know, if, you know, if Ofcom still maintains its arrogant stance, it will directly affect trade relations with America.
No, right, okay, okay, Kier Starbucks.
Like India, 50% tariffs on all your goods and services.
And with America, we want to be as nice as we can because we actually have a two to one trade imbal imbalance with them where we export twice as much to them as we import from them.
Really?
I didn't know that.
But we have to be very nice.
Yes.
We really should anyway.
But the point is, if we are going to start, frankly, censoring American platforms, that is going to have a real impact for the British online right and the nature of politics in this country.
Because at the moment, and I don't know if any of us knows, but we're the people they're talking from, right?
We are upstream of them.
And what we discuss gets downstream to them.
And suddenly Nigel Farage and Kier Starmer are in a deportation combat, conflict.
The idea that we can just frivolously be like, well, you know, it doesn't matter.
Let Kirstalm censor them because that exerts British power.
Maybe, but that's that's that's that's that's gonna have a problem that's gonna cause problems for us in particular and uh it might not be wise.
Absolutely, yeah.
But no, I I I think the online safety act will die a death in maybe in a year's time.
That's my instinct.
It's gonna become unworkable.
You know, I I know, most embarrassing I've been I've been invited to a black tie event and I put it in a Google, uh, you know, black tie dress iron.
And there's some great places in Los Angeles, I tell you.
Well, I imagine there would be.
If you're back on Tuesday to show Tuxedo.
But yeah, I've got a VPN now and I'd do it from there.
And I'm sorry, I'm sorry offcom.
You ain't going to win.
Got it out for Sundays.
And I love the announcement.
I was like, Well, this time we're going to ban VPNs.
It's like, sorry, are we just consigned, are we just resigned to the fact that, yeah, we've got a tyrannical government.
Just how tyrannical are they going to be?
It's like, Well, are they going to ban VPNs?
Oh, of course they are.
You know, of course, well, you know, not surprised.
Everyone seems to be completely resigned to this idea that the government has every right to tyrannize us.
Yeah, is it?
Yeah, there is absolutely a fatalism in it.
No, on this one, what is scary is, we've always had some semblance of real democracy in this country, some semblance.
It used to be quite robust, frankly.
And I just find it shocking.
By the way, I compare the Online Safety Act to Hitler's 1933 Enabling Act.
Because it basically gives the government complete control and power over the internet and social media.
It's the 1933 Enabling Act, as far as I can see.
It's not terribly different.
I mean, everyone hates naughty comparisons.
They're very gauche, but like.
But like, they they're frankly, you're right.
It allows them to do basically whatever the hell they like.
Sorry, sorry about that, but that's the only example I can think of.
Yeah, and so I think that basically the online right needs to be aware of its own power and the influence it's exerting and the threats to it, and the online safety act is genuinely one of them.
Yeah.
And Base Ape says, someone with 14 different flags in their bio is calling you a flagshagger.
Yeah, man, this is something I see on Twitter all the time.
Like there was literally this guy with the Ukrainian flag and the EU flag being like, I hate those flagshaggers, literally before I came on the podcast.
And I was like, am I going to apply to this?
No, I'm not going to bother applying to this.
Midwit Sargon, it's not Botsborough, I swear.
Dimwit Harold of the North.
No, it's them bots, I tell you.
Yeah, absolutely.
I love the memetic quality.
Well, the thing is, it might be, but it always feels like cope when someone's like, oh, it's bots.
It feels perfectly rational to me.
These people have incentives to try and boost their engagement as much as possible, make themselves look like they're on the cutting edge of discussion.
Sure, but their politicians aren't talking about the things they care about.
Our politicians aren't talking about the things we care about.
Matt says, I think Trump is playing good cop to JD Vance's bad cop since JD Vance has proved to be involved in an investment firm and technology companies and understands this in negotiations with UK leaders.
Yeah, again, hopefully that is the case.
Dawn says, the wind is changing, stay your course.
Yes.
And also, take a moment to be proud of yourselves as well.
Because everyone...
Like, any...
Even if you're like, oh, I'm only a 200 Twitter follower and non-account, so what?
You know, like, every...
One or two banger tweets with like 100,000 botted or unbotted likes, like that's fine.
Everyone sees it.
But like that's, you know, I see Evans posts, you know, every day, but that doesn't make me feel like I'm surrounded.
It doesn't make me feel under pressure.
But when all of their applies, that's just people who are like, don't care, don't care, don't care.
Like that makes that, that's a psychological effect that you can't buy.
You can't just bot, you know.
I know, I get a feeling that people like that get a bit of a kinky thrill out of it.
Yeah.
When they're being humiliated constantly.
Evan definitely.
Evan definitely.
But the average sort of, you know, shit lib mainstream journalist wants to feel as if they represent and they are respected, and they don't.
You know, when they've got people constantly going to get it.
They want to feel as if they have the mass of public opinion with them.
Exactly.
And that's why I think Sky News are like, maybe the replacement stuff is something we have to talk about.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
No, I think it's probably fair to say that X gives mainstream journalists, legacy media journalists, a fresh perspective, shall we say.
Yes.
And we know they're addicted to it.
They're on all the time.
I know.
There's one, there's one woman who, who, who, who, who, she's a mainstream TV presenter and I did a piece criticizing her views on Tommy Robinson and she was in my DM saying please Dave stop.
Point proven exactly.
You know, we we are we are leading the way at this point.
I said well put me on your show, you know.
That's what you are then, you know.
Did you see DP Audit said, Did you see me being rejected from the pub for having an England flag and the teacher's doing one?
I did see that.
Well done.
Did not see that.
Yeah, yeah.
It's some, you know, Karen who's just like, No, you put up an England flag.
You can't come in here.
It's like, Okay, well, beware.
Beware.
That pub does not support Patreon.
Hollywave DPU always has some great content.
Does he?
I don't.
We follow each other.
Right, right, okay.
I haven't heard of him before, but good job, chap.
JR says, glad to see you back on YouTube.
Couldn't deal with Rumble's UI UX.
Happy to see a few flags on my commute to work.
Not many, but it's a start.
Yeah, I know.
It's really, really good, isn't it?
And Paul says, I'm helping to fund the upkeep of Harry's mullet.
Thank you very much.
All that money will go to the haircut.
I'm not planning to have.
I don't think cultural warfare ends at the immigration.
Multiple sites like live streaming have come up.
We already read about it.
Oh, we already read about it.
Oh, I read about one.
Yeah.
Right, okay.
And someone on Rumble pointed out, Alex Truss, Johnny Somalian need I say more.
Yeah.
Again, exactly.
People like that.
I'm so glad that.
Is it Korea, South Korea that's jailing him basically?
It was Korea and then he went over to Japan and I think there were reports that Japan was just kicking him out of the country, deporting him for being a public nuisance.
And to be honest, I think all countries should reserve the right to kick out any IRL streamers going about anywhere because they are literally putting themselves in a position to be paid to cause trouble.
Yeah, it's insufferable.
Yeah, so just like ban it, as far as I can see.
Well, it's a shame in such a well-ordered society like Japan and Korea.
Oh, yeah, I mean, I pointed out that Logan Paul's the one who started it way back when with the whole Suicide Forest thing.
Yeah.
Because he, even before that, he was going around just harassing people in public.
It's terrible behaviour.
Have you seen Charlie Beach on?
I've seen some of it, yeah.
Some people describe him as a wide-out merchant, but I think he offers a valuable public service.
A lot of people.
When you're going to a protest and you're dealing with lefty agitators, that's one thing, right?
But when you're just wandering around the street and annoying normal people are just going about their day, that's something totally different.
He's made a star of his bodyguard, Fred.
Oh, I see.
Supposed doing the sort of stuff that he does, you'd have to have a bodyguard, wouldn't you?
He had two at one time.
So apparently...
Quite a few people I know in Manchester know him or have met him and sometimes having a bodyguard in Manchester sounds like not a bad idea.
You can pick it up in the gardens.
You got an Osman letter.
You got one.
Sorry, he's got an Osman letter.
What's an Osman letter?
Your life is in imminent danger.
Oh, right.
Oh, all right.
Let's get to the video comments.
So in podcast number 1237 you said that Liverpool is an English city that hasn't been captured, but unfortunately that's not true.
The famous Scouse accent developed largely from Irish immigration, which influenced the way people spoke, and in elections Liverpool tends to have much more in common with Ireland than with the surrounding English.
I met Escalcer when returning to Paddington Station after Carl's Gilgamesh talk in 2019, and he was a left-wing anarchist who had all the insane left-wing opinions which still pop up on my Facebook timeline.
In summary, Liverpool is an Irish colony.
The Irish are once again to blame for the problem the English face, and Colonel Gerdward did absolutely nothing wrong.
All very true.
As I've said, eventually we will take Liverpool back from the perfidious Irish.
The Irish Plantation.
Yes.
Have you guys also noticed that there must have been some reasonably good turnout in Liverpool against Asylum Hotels?
I have noticed that.
Do you remember in the Southport riots, it was the Liverpool Pudleans who were revolting?
Cudleyans were rioting long into the night to let foreigners.
Well, that's the good thing about the Scouts, to be fair.
Being totally serious for a moment is that they are intensely tribal nature.
They are some of the most tribal people on this island, means that they are more likely to come out in force against these things when they're imposed on them much more than other cities across the country.
I think they are the victims, so they're going to defend themselves, you know.
I think reform could make some headway in the constituency.
When you see literally hundreds and thousands of Scouters out on the street complaining about immigration, you know, it's a serious problem..
Oh yeah.
It's nice seeing them not just being communists as well.
*Sounds of the country* *Sounds of
the country* you That's bloody Liverpool, really really?
That's Manchester.
Aldringham.
Yeah.
Oh, it's Aldringham, yeah.
Yeah.
Jesu.
Good lads, good lads.
He's a good lad, Lee.
So defend our island, whatever the cost may be.
we shall fight on the beaches.
Scott Grask.
Scotty knows.
Good old AI.
Right, Steve says, Harry finally capitulates to the Chance request to make a theme song for Lodseaters.
The question now becomes, will he make enough music for Ellie for an album sale?
I happily would.
I would have been happy to make music at any point.
point.
The problem is I've got more than enough material original for an album, but I need a new computer because this one dies if I have Discord and Chrome opened at the same time now.
So I can't use any of my recording software.
Once I get a new one, I'll probably do a load more stuff with Chris.
If you've listened to the song that I did with Chris Gard on YouTube, please check it out.
If you haven't, it's called Worship of Man, and who knows what could happen?
Who knows?
Eagle Eye says, No, save the Ludwigs' intro music.
Yeah, I'd like to, but YouTube copyright claimed it, so we can't monetize anything.
It's too late now.
Yeah, it's sorry.
It's over.
Harry will do something really good, I'm sure.
Yeah.
And what was it Peter Hitchens said?
It's over.
I guess that's it.
There you go.
Goon.
My favorite piece of philosophy produced in the past 500 years, really.
I know.
Anyway, Martin was thinking about obtaining the game of Fallout London.
I decided there's no need.
I could just walk outside and go around for a bit.
Yeah, I offered James Lindsey.
If he wants to come around, I'll take him for a tour.
Derek says, Who knew that in 60 years Paris would be on the level of Algier?
Yeah, well, well, I mean, there have been prophets in the wilderness saying this sort of stuff, haven't they,?
So there were some people who knew.
Michael says, Wait, France is manning up?
I'm not, I'm surprised.
It usually takes the Brits and Americans to fight off invaders of France.
Well, that's the thing, they're not manning up.
That's the problem.
What they're doing is locking down the compliant citizens, right?
They're targeting their own people instead of the people who are the interlopers who are causing the problems.
If anything, it might make the streets worse.
Yeah.
Because the criminals won't feel like they have to hold themselves back if there aren't any law abiding people on the streets.
Lancelot says, I'm the same age as Carl.
And for as long as I can recall, politicians always made laws that punished the law abiding and worded them as if they had some kind of effect on criminals it couldn't get less and they think we're the stupid ones well i mean it's called anarcho tyranny yeah i'm sure it never used to be like uh rothbard got it off san francis but yeah that was a a common phrase used by those guys the old paleos uh arizona desert rat says maybe this curfew make it uh it easier to arrest and identify criminals um well the
thing is that like like i said that like with sweden the police would have to go to these communities actually incede in them and why would you bother it's dangerous but just to not be involved at all right baron von warhawk says congrats france through liberalism and excessive empathy you have wound up bringing back the separate but equal it's mad it's genuinely mad isn't it like again there there is a solution everyone knows the solution but it means just arresting a bunch of people that will have white liberal women
screeching and and saying no leave them alone I've always said everybody when you look at like the grooming gangs the worst enemy of white working class girls is white is white middle class women one hundred percent and this was always the problem with all of feminism as well there was this one good morning Britain like show that they did.
Where they do you remember the Grid Girls from Formula 1?
Yeah.
Right?
They had so they're attractive working class girls who are wearing like bikinis or whatever and who are waving the grid flags.
And then you had these dowdy middle class feminists who are, no, you can't have them anymore.
Grid Girls is patriarchal or something.
And so the F one banned them.
And it's like, right.
So you're, you know, middle class professors, dowdy, unattractive, attractive working class girls who love their job and love doing what they're doing.
No, you're not allowed anymore.
They should have listened to Peter.
Absolutely.
But the point is, you're right.
The par of the teams went out of their way to make sure the girls felt part of the team as well.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah., yeah, they said they had a great time.
But why wouldn't you?
I'm sure everyone was having a great time.
Well, yeah, until the yeah, but everyone was having a great time.
Except my wives.
Except, no, no, except for the, the, the, the, the, the frumpy middle class feminist professors who don't watch Formula 1, who just sat there seething.
Just, you know, you know that meme of, um, Denethor, where he's just seething, and it's just like, you know, so and so for no reason.
That's what the frumpy middle class professors were like about the great girls.
They were having a good time.
They're like, no, we have to ruin this.
Um, Mr. Flipple says that Roger incident was terrible.
He was totally out of control.
People don't understand this, but wrestlers rely on their opponents working saffely, it was mind to savagery.
Yeah, I mean, If you're doing something like a suplex or something, it takes two to do something like that.
And it especially takes two very skilled and well trained people to do it safely.
Michael says, This will be Psycho Stu's fault because pattern recognition.
Yeah, probably.
Henry says, Whilst I suspect this Nepo baby might just get off because of how a jury of his peers tends to act tribal, if he does get sent to prison, then I hope the fear of someone else cashing in on the receipt he's built up in this attack causes many sleepless nights.
If he thinks he feels like a bitch now, when he goes to prison, then he'll find out what that means.
But yeah, hopefully hopefully if it goes to trial we won't have the same sort of thing that we've seen a number of times in LA courts.
Are they based in where are they based?
I believe the incident took place in LA.
The LAPD are the ones looking into it.
So if it goes to trial it will be in LA and hopefully you won't get, say, like a no J Simpson situation.
Hector says he'll get no sympathy from me, Carl, daddy issues or not.
You don't prove you're a man to your dad by losing control.
That's okay, totally true, totally fair.
I'm just very softhearted.
But you are completely correct on that, obviously.
Kevin says the Chinese have the great firewall.
I can see Starmer if he decides to block access to VPNs.
pushing for the same thing in the UK.
Well, honestly, it's genuinely on the horizon that we could end up with some sort of Labour Chinese firewall, right?
It is on the horizon.
It's the sort of thing, like Starmer has already said, well, no, we're not considering it.
It's like, yeah, but you have considered it.
Also, China has a much better bargaining chip on the global stage for being able to impose those sorts of things without fear of too many sanctions because of how much manufacturing and trade goes through there and goes on over there.
What does Britain have to offer to say you can't do that?
Lodge did at Buckingham Palace.
That's about it really, isn't it?
Yeah, what's Britain producing at the moment?
You can have our weak, pathetic green steel.
Drill rap music.
You can have our drill.
I'll happily trade the drill rappers for something.
Zesty King says, I was at a pub quiz last night.
The place was full of boomers.
The host asked a question about politics and when giving an answer went off on both Labour and the Tories and said that only one party can create real change, obviously referring to reform.
The pub then cheered and shouted agreement.
It was a very uplifting thing to experience.
Yeah, I mean, you know, as much as everyone on the online right is like Nigel Farage ain't gonna do it, there are millions of boomers who who are persuaded at this point that Farage is just something that's not the mainstream.
So good.
And maybe with enough pressure, we can keep dragging him to the right.
Because, like, again, Nigel Farage, I don't want to do mass deportations to, I'm going to mass deport six hundred thousand in the first year.
That's, that's result.
That's progress, right?
So.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Tim, I'll do some digging for you.
I'll be able to get some of the inside story on that one.
Well, from what I understand is he genuinely sincere, that's what I've been told.
So, you know, he really bought it.
Can we trust this, though?
Because Farage is on every side of every issue at some point in his career.
I did haul that person over the coals over it.
And I'm not too sure whether I can say this, but, you know, yesterday when he was giving out his press conference, Nigel Farage was banging on about, you know, we're not going to use civil servants.
we're going to use private barristers just to arrange that oh okay.
Good thinking.
Yeah.
Excellent.
I mean, why not?
You can basically do anything you want privately in this country.
Yeah, it's what you do.
So there's no reason not to.
Yeah, sure.
So, yeah, the phrase I've already is probably not the right one for use, but as Nigel Farage alluded to yesterday, when they come in, Schumer, they come into power in 2028 with a working majority.
It's a case of right, freeline, we're voting for, we're getting rid of the Human Rights Act 98, getting rid of Gordon Brown's 2008 where the civil servants are not liable for their for their mistakes.
Yeah.
That's going.
There'd be a free speech act.
He needs to make the Bank of England accountable to the parliament again.
I mean, there's just so there are so many things a farage needs to do.
But there's a huge list of things.
He should have a big list ready to go right now.
Yeah, he's got it now.
Yeah, he's better bloody one.
I've not put my foot in here, but that's my understanding.
I do know.
I'll come after you if he doesn't.
When he backs that, it's like, David, you did this.
See, a lot of it, a lot of it seems like wishful thinking though, doesn't it?
Like, it's like, Farage, is he the guy?
I don't think he's the guy.
I guess we'll find out.
No, I don't.
Prove me wrong, Nigel.
Yeah, are you?
Certainly his advisers around him are as keen as us, shall we say.
Right, okay, well, that's.
They know, they're holding his feet to the fire, and if there is any backsliding.
It's whether they can influence him to act rather than just speak.
Words are very little value to me, his actions.
Yeah, which honestly is totally fair.
Someone online says, I don't think they're going to sense my site.
It could be a veiled threat.
Something about it feels very Italian.
You could interpret it that way, but I don't I just don't think that Trump would have said it in that way.
I think he was probably being more congenial and friendly.
But hopefully JD Vance has got the steel in him on this subject.
Although, I mean, he did go over and give the EU a rollicking about freedom of speech.
I don't doubt that this is something that really matters to him.
Jimbo says, as it gets worse, the foreign spies who run us will unironically try and ban X in the name of national security.
I bet you there's plenty of super injunctions that would explain their behavior.
Yeah, this is definitely something that is something to be wary of, is that it's entirely possible that I've already seen them seeding articles about it saying things like all this there's a lot of hate speech on x there's a lot of potential problems coming off x like I've already seen the seeds of it and so at some point I do think they will probably make some kind of move against it so don't get comfortable genuinely I think it's something to worry
about Arizona Deseret says time position now has two million signatures I assume she means petition yeah I think she means petition yeah Luckily he's in Florida where DeSantis is still governor that guy shouldn't have ever got a CDL well yeah Is that the the The petition for the guy who drove over people in the lorry.
That must be what that must be what she was referring to.
I would hope that it takes a lot more than a random petition to get manslaughter or murder charges thrown out of court.
So it seems like impotent wailing as far as I'm concerned, but it does demonstrate something very worrying about the tribal ethnic preference that no matter what the circumstances are, what the action is that's happened, they're more than willing to just say, No, that's not a problem.
No, that's that's that's not a problem.
We shouldn't be punished for it.
People who look like me should be able to murder and get away with it.
Madden.
No, I don't agree with that actually.
Whether it's Carmelo Anthony, whether it's whoever the Indian guy was driving that truck, whether it's someone who looks like me, if it was a white blonde hair guy, justice is justice.
Right and wrong are still right and wrong.
That's maybe that's just a very Western centric, Eurocentric way of thinking.
I'm beginning to suspect it is.
Beginning to really suspect it is.
We're in the West.
I don't care.
But yeah, exactly.
You know, justice is justice and that's how it should be.
And with that one last super chat.
Being Polish and living in the UK, I'm feeling optimistic seeing all the UK and St. George flags around.
Finally, guys, keep it up up and expand from here.
Rupert Loe for Benevolent Tyrant.
Love My Islander 4.
Yeah, yeah.
Go and get your Islander 4 while it's on sale.
When it's gone, it's gone forever.
Link in the description.
I hope you've bought one already, because if not, you don't know how long.
I get it all day, every day.
Can I get a copy of Islander 3 or 2 or 1?
I'm like, no.
Like, oh man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was, it was, they're filling Carl's mattress and that's where they'll stay forever.
They're a moment in time and once that moment's gone, it's gone.
So yeah.
Yeah.
And with that, bye Islander.
Thank you very much for joining us.
And to everyone who's sent in a Rumble Ramp or a Super Chat, thank you very much.