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	Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
	Welcome to the podcast, The Lotus It is, for Tuesday the 7th of January, 2025. I'm joined by Stelios, and today we're going to be talking about Trudeau quitting, and frankly more on the grooming gang scandals.
	how Starmer lunk-headedly responded to Elon Musk, and how there's just so much evidence of the authorities trying to cover it up or dismiss it that it's beyond denial at this point, I think, and so we're going to go through that in some detail.
	So not terribly fun for my segments, but thankfully Stelios' should be quite funny, so that's good.
	So, Carl, my distinguished colleagues, and the low-to-seaters audience, It is with deep awareness of the responsibility conferred to me by your choice that I accept your nomination for the position of the eulogist of Justin Trudeau's political career.
	This is a man whose political career is defined by care for justice, peace and liberty.
	This is a Canadian who loved his people, his country and what it is meant to stand for.
	His loyalty at promoting Canadian interests is undisputed and unwavering.
	This is a man who resisted subversion anywhere he saw it.
	Let us come together and grieve with deep sorrow for his recent announcement.
	But before that, let's watch at how Trump says goodbye to him.
	There's a very funny video here.
	He is flushing Justin Trudeau from a golden toilet.
	Thank God for AI, that's all I can say.
	Right.
	An accurate artist representation of what happened.
	Right.
	So one of the things is that Trudeau is a leftist.
	He's a socialist.
	And socialists can plan.
	They think they can, but they can't plan.
	They constantly forget very easy details, like, for instance, the wind.
	Let's see here.
	Look at the podium.
	What do you notice, Karl?
	A deeply symbolic piece of paper floating away.
	Yeah.
	No one...
	No one thought that maybe the wind is going to blow and the paper is going to...
	Oh, that was before his speech?
	That was right before his speech, you see?
	So he's lost the first pages of his speech.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah, I hope the first pages didn't say something entirely different.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Maybe there's nothing important on them.
	Yeah, maybe something was lost there.
	If something really bad happens, then I'll resign.
	Let's see what he said afterwards.
	Let us see Justin Trudeau in his own words.
	It was last night over dinner.
	I told my kids about the decision that I'm sharing with you today.
	What happened?
	I don't know.
	I intend to resign as party leader, as prime minister, after the party selects its next leader through a robust nationwide competitive process.
	Last night, I asked the president of the Liberal Party to begin that process.
	This country deserves a real choice in the next election.
	And it has become clear to me that if I'm having to fight internal battles, I cannot be the best option in that election.
	So, Carl, I think that this is an argument for the claim that people within the family don't deserve support no matter what.
	And conditional support, because his family supported his policies.
	They shouldn't have.
	Well, sure, but you can understand why they would.
	But I think that really what's happening is that he's absolutely tanking in the polls, and Pierre Polivet is going to smash him, and he doesn't want to be the guy to get absolutely rinsed.
	What a merciful thing to say.
	Right, so Canadians started celebrating.
	We have several videos here.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Let's mute it.
	We can find several videos, some of them are fake, but there is a kind of sentiment that people are very happy with it.
	I imagine many people in Canada were thrilled with this announcement.
	Yes, because it turns out, in fact, that they didn't actually like him.
	Really?
	They started liking him in the beginning when he won.
	He has won three elections, to be fair.
	I think the popularity rating or the approval rating was around 65% nine years ago when he won, and now it's close to 22 or in the low 20s.
	Really?
	So tyrannizing his own country wasn't a popular decision?
	He was doing it for their own good, though.
	That is true.
	He felt bad.
	They just didn't understand.
	It's for their own good.
	So this is, I think, the most representative meme of his premiership.
	Because that's him.
	Justin Trudeau with a smile.
	We had pride skid marks and the world literally declining behind.
	I like the way you describe the pride skid marks.
	Yeah, well, how should I call them?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The skid marks are the tire.
	Yes, okay.
	Well, they are skid marks on the road.
	I like asphalt.
	I just like asphalt.
	Right.
	So we...
	See a trend of declining popularity.
	Here we have the Canadian federal elections of 2015. If you see, he won with a 39.47%.
	In the next elections in 2019, 39 became 33. That's a big loss, by the way.
	In 2021, this became 32.62%.
	So yet another fall.
	It's very understandable that a lot of people, even within his own party, think that this trend is not going to be reversed.
	He is going to lose.
	And the elections are set to be for October 20th, 2025. It's election year for Canada.
	So the liberals in Canada think that he is not the best bet.
	Penetrating the cabinets.
	Yes, and one of the reasons is that he doesn't show anything that suggests that the popularity rating is going to go up.
	And in fact, we have here a very popular video of the last months where he was confronted by a steel worker.
	Let's see what's going on here.
	We've got donuts over here if you want to thank you for your hard work.
	I can bring some for my kids here.
	The 25% Paris we just brought in on Chinese Steel is going to help you out.
	That's going to keep my job.
	What about the 40% taxes I'm paying and I don't have a doctor?
	The $400 million in the investment card means you're going to have a job for many years.
	I think you're only here for another year.
	We won't see around probably another year.
	That's what elections are for.
	That's right.
	I look forward to everyone exercising the right to vote.
	Basic choice.
	We're going to invest in you and your job.
	I don't believe you for a second.
	That went viral.
	Do you know anyone who got dental care?
	I pay for it myself.
	We're like three years behind.
	Do you have a job in coverage?
	Yeah, four people in my family.
	Every time we go for a dental visit, it's cost me about $50 in my pocket per person.
	Why?
	I have a good job.
	You're not really doing anything for us, Justin.
	Actually, we just invested so half a million people haven't been with the dentist.
	Got to go to the dentist over the past few months.
	We get an idea.
	We get an idea.
	A half million Indians.
	Yeah, I will say...
	Prime Minister of Canada.
	I will say this.
	When you're a politician, you can have everyone happy.
	But at least you have to...
	Demonstrate that you can acknowledge concerns.
	And I think this perfectly captures Trudeau's essence, or the essence of his political career, that when people confronted, working class people confront him with simple things and simple concerns, he didn't even acknowledge that they have a concern.
	He doubled down on just empty rhetoric.
	We will invest in you and your future.
	What does that mean to this guy?
	Nothing.
	Exactly.
	He's still going to pay $50 to get his teeth looked at.
	Exactly.
	Right, so let's see here some of the context behind this resignation.
	So Trudeau was under a lot of pressure.
	Lately, he had a finance minister, Christian Freeland, resigning hours before she was due to deliver her annual fiscal update.
	So there are several problems within the Trudeau camp.
	As everyone understands, it's not that the liberals disagree with his policies.
	They backed him up when he was promoting all of them.
	They didn't waver on their support to him.
	He was morally correct.
	He won the argument, Jeremy Corbyn style.
	Yes.
	Even if he's going to lose the election.
	Yes, it's just that they think that right now he can't win an election.
	But the policies are the same.
	And we have here in a blistering letter of resignation...
	Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland announced that she criticized Trudeau's political gimmicks, likely referring to a two-month sales tax holiday and $250 rebates for most workers.
	Freeland said Canada could ill afford these policies, seen as a pre-election handout to claw back some voters, and coming as the country faces a serious prospect of huge tariffs, which could be levered by incoming Trump administration.
	Is considering to have an executive order where he is going to impose a 25% tariffs?
	And what did a leftist think there?
	Well, let's increase spending.
	When in doubt, let's increase public spending.
	And the people who are a bit more sensible, even if it's not for moral reasons, even if it's just for political instinct, practical reasons, they say, well, that's going to make us look bad.
	Maybe that's not the way forward.
	Let's stop.
	Right, so what is his legacy?
	There are two different narratives about his legacy, the mainstream one, and I think the correct one.
	Let's see here, what would you say about the mainstream narrative is about his legacy?
	Well, it's going to be the same as the other WEF puppets like Jacinda Ardern, where the narrative is going to be a kind of rolling praise of their liberal credentials and the liberal things that they did in Norfus.
	And this will be a massive disconnect from the actual real harms that they did and the genuine loathing that people have for them.
	I think you have anticipated what is being written here.
	Oh, have I?
	Yeah.
	How did I know?
	Yeah.
	How could I have known this in advance?
	Yeah.
	And that's, again, characteristic of the politics of nowadays in the West.
	We have...
	A lot of people are disgruntled.
	A lot of people who feel alienated with their government because they have complete lack of patriotic feeling and complete lack of respect to them in their capacity as patriotic citizens.
	And they care about the abstractions like gender equity.
	They care about the indigenous agenda.
	It says legal drugs.
	Yeah.
	Other initiatives.
	Oh, also the carbon tax.
	Yeah, there are so many things that they do.
	The public are like, I don't want this.
	Which a lot of...
	They're essentially...
	People complain about democracy, but actually it does still contain within it the power of selection.
	We still do get to choose.
	And, okay, well, I appreciate that Pierre Poulevet probably isn't the choice that many on the online right would like, but at least it's not Justin Trudeau.
	He's not going to be insane.
	I know that a lot of people are completely skeptical of democracy.
	I don't share the extent of the concern, but I think of it this way.
	If the demos had zero patriotic feeling, why would there be such a push to change the dynamics and the demographics of the demos?
	It is at least a mechanism through which this discontent can be expressed.
	That's why when they're talking about our democracy, it's very nebulous.
	Right.
	So we have...
	We have another narrative here, the narrative you won't see in mainstream media, that says that Justin Trudeau basically has done many mistakes, and you would expect from a sensible politician to do better.
	Let's see here his position on ISIS and people who fought for ISIS in the mid...
	middle of the previous decade. - The countries are prosecuting citizens who went abroad to fight for ISIS.
	Trudeau believes some returning home to Canada can still be rehabilitated. - There's a range of experiences when people come home, and we know that actually someone who has engaged and turned away from that hateful ideology can be an extraordinarily and we know that actually someone who has engaged and turned away from that hateful ideology can be an extraordinarily powerful voice for preventing
	Again, that's the essence of the Trudeau Premiership.
	Whenever we have valid concerns of people who say, look at the kind of mentality that leads one to commit atrocities of that sort.
	But, here we need the myth of regret and just a sort of blank slate.
	The idea that they can just be rehabilitated, brought into Canadian society.
	It's the tabula rasa not in birth, but at any stage in life.
	Yeah.
	But this is typical, like, radical leftism, really.
	There is nothing a person can do that puts them beyond the pale unless they oppose the agenda of radical leftism.
	Yeah, you are what you declare to be.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	He didn't do just that, which is a very insensible move, a move that screams lack of prudence.
	During the pandemic, as Isabel Oakeshott reminds people of, he says Justin Trudeau went so completely crazy that he literally froze the bank accounts of people who protested against mandatory jabs.
	Good riddance.
	Yeah.
	That was a very totalitarian move.
	Yeah, it was incredible.
	I mean, to, like...
	I'm sure the Canadian truckers just want to get on with their jobs.
	I'm sure they just were like, yeah, just leave us alone, let's get on with our jobs.
	And instead they have to spend days in the freezing cold blockading Ottawa.
	It's like, that is...
	You've really got to have mishandled the situation if you can get thousands of them to do that.
	You've really got to have screwed up.
	And I have the habit of not focusing on rhetoric and sentiment so much, but on operation.
	And it seems to me that when it comes to Justin Trudeau and the way he handled the pandemic, he was constantly saying there's an emergency and when we have a situation of emergency, I need to assume...
	Basically absolute power and say that anyone who disagrees with me should be coerced into acting as I want them to act.
	Yeah, you've got to remember that Trudeau had, I think it was something like 2014 or something, done an interview in which he said he admired the basic dictatorship of China because it was able to turn on a dime and do whatever it wanted with regards to any subject that it wanted.
	And unsurprisingly...
	He approaches the COVID pandemic, which came from China, in a very Chinese style.
	I mean, the very notion of lockdown should have been so incomprehensibly alien to the West that we should have automatically dismissed them and said, right, well, we will do what we think is best and what is in keeping with our own traditions.
	But instead, we decided to follow the Chinese model.
	It's like, why would we do that?
	Right.
	We have here a very good thread by Michael Schellenberger on several of the problematic policies of Trudeau.
	If you want to check it out, visit our website and you can click the link underneath.
	He is talking about several of the problems with Trudeau.
	And I'm going to name some.
	I remember Trudeau was very aggressive against free speech.
	The main clip we remember from Jordan Peterson in the beginning in 2016 was when he was opposing Bill C-16 that mandated the use of pronouns.
	And it didn't just say don't use words X, Y, and Z. It says you need to use words A, B, and C. There was also Bill C-63 that was even worse because it introduced the notion of the hate crime in and it also was to have a retroactive effect.
	And you can arguably say that this was even more severe than the Irish hate speech law, the Crime Justice Bill 2022. The COVID lockdowns, the way he handled the trackers' protests, he debanked them.
	He was horrible and atrocious on immigration.
	And there were some other, a bit more fun things with him.
	Here we'll mention a conspiracy.
	Again, this is a conspiracy.
	I'm not just saying, but a lot of people...
	It's just a remarkable resemblance.
	Yeah, they really look alike, don't they?
	Yeah, incredibly.
	Yeah, because I was looking at him and I said, is Castro alike?
	Have you seen his purported father, Pierre Castro?
	Yes, but I don't think they bear the same resemblance.
	No, they don't look anything alike.
	He doesn't look anything like his father, but he does look like Fidel Castro.
	And his mother did go and cavort with Fidel Castro in Cuba.
	Yeah, just literally look at them.
	It's definitely the case.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm a conspiracy believer.
	Oh yeah, look.
	Yeah, we have this clip.
	Should we play it?
	If you want.
	Yeah.
	My marriage was broken down because we had a Catholic marriage based on the old-fashioned principle of fidelity.
	And I was unfaithful.
	And therefore our marriage was over.
	Okay.
	This is just going to fuel more speculation and conspiracy theories about the humble origins of...
	Yeah, but his father doesn't look anything like him.
	He's got a long, narrow face.
	He's not good-looking.
	It's like, this is not the same...
	Anyway.
	Right, here we have this Justin Trudeau in 2001. This is one of the funniest pictures of Justin Trudeau.
	I mean, there's just remarkable how many pictures of him there are in blackface.
	Yeah.
	There aren't any pictures of me in blackface because I was never a theatre kid.
	Isn't that a bit rich coming from him?
	You know, he does this and then he goes banging on the drum of cultural appropriation.
	It's just shameless.
	It's hilarious, to be honest.
	I don't know how he got away with it.
	Yeah, and also one of the really weird things.
	Let's see here this moment within the...
	There was also one for this man, a 98-year-old Ukrainian-Canadian who fought for Ukrainian independence against the Russians during the Second World War.
	Yeah, so they literally had...
	Against the Russians.
	Oh, really?
	On behalf of who?
	Yeah, so...
	You have the darling of the woke, the woke prince, one of the princes of the circles of woke hell.
	The crown prince of wokeness himself.
	Yes, one of those anti-fascists.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Who literally bring into the community.
	Literally bring a Nazi to have them applauded into the community.
	It's just comically stupid.
	Yeah.
	Look at all these clowns applauding brilliantly.
	Oh, marvellous.
	Thank you so much for sticking it to the Russians.
	Right, and here we have the message of Pierre Pauliever, which I think we should listen for a bit, because it's really important to get an idea of the policies of the liberals who supported Justin Trudeau.
	Let's listen to him a bit.
	Canadians desperate to turn the page on this dark chapter in our history might be relieved today.
	Well, I'm just going to...
	Say what he says, because there are some sound issues.
	He says, nothing changes.
	Trudeau is just a person.
	They shouldn't focus on the person.
	The important thing is the policies.
	We shouldn't focus on the policies.
	And he literally reminds people that all the liberals, right, they backed Trudeau.
	They agree.
	Trudeau wasn't in any way outside of the norm for their agenda.
	He was actually a really good instantiation of it.
	And I think...
	Right now, I'm willing to bet that they're going to lose, and right now they're going to sort of choose a, within quotation marks, a sacrificial lamb.
	Maybe they're going to say, right now we're going to lose this, so we don't want to lose a very high profile.
	So someone who was never on the board for future greatness.
	They're like Kamala Harris, in fact.
	Just get slapped.
	Let's choose a number two or something like that.
	Goodbye, Justin Trudeau, and we're gonna miss you.
	There's a lot of people pointing out that Polivare is not like some great replacement for him either.
	He's kind of just a standard fiscal conservative.
	Where, obviously, he talks about state spending a lot.
	And don't get me wrong, I actually quite like him on a personal level.
	I love the way he deals with journalists, especially.
	But they are right.
	It's going to be, essentially, business as usual, but with less state spending.
	Okay, fine.
	Which is, in fact, what Random Name here points out.
	Dragon Lady says, Yesterday, Jeremy Corbyn tweeted, Billionaires should not own social media platforms.
	Free media is a democratic media.
	A public good that is owned and run by us all, like the BBC, thoughts.
	Jeremy Corbyn is a communist.
	He doesn't seem to understand that if we made it so that poor people own the media, they'd stop being poor and end up becoming billionaires.
	But also, the idea that, yeah, the only media that is legitimate is the BBC. Yeah, just too many nonces in the BBC for me to agree with that.
	Inexo says, I wonder what of Castro's love children will now try and take over Canada.
	Who knows?
	Castro, or Justin Castro, literally worked with China to train their military to invade America via Canadian territory.
	Yeah, I did hear about this.
	I didn't end up looking into it, but I did hear they were doing some sort of joint military exercise to train the Chinese military.
	It's like, why would he do this?
	That sounds very suspicious.
	It's really weird, isn't it?
	To put it mildly.
	Very peculiar.
	Funnyman says, really appreciate you both, the more classically liberal, yin to Connor and Harry's conservative yang.
	And Matt says, will the grooming gang news destroy the trust the British public have with the legacy news?
	Will the British public start getting news from new media sources like Loadseaters, GB News, etc.?
	Too much to say, so I will park that for a minute.
	We don't know, frankly.
	No one can know what the future's going to hold.
	People, there's definitely been a rift between the general view of the British public and what is happening now.
	Thank God for Elon bringing this to everyone's attention, frankly.
	In fact, let's move on to that.
	Let's talk about Starmer's response to Elon, because it was very tinny-ed.
	He failed to understand why people were upset by this, and he failed to substantively address any of the real issues, which we discussed in a roundtable on Notices.com, and what we thought would be the consequence of this.
	And so go and watch that for a more detailed analysis than I'm going to give here.
	I'm just going to go through the events.
	But this was Keir Starmer's response.
	And I'm not going to play it, because it goes on for about four minutes.
	But it completely misses any of the points, right?
	So the first thing he says is that Tommy Robinson, he begins with misinformation.
	He says Tommy Robinson is currently in prison for nearly collapsing a grooming gang case.
	I don't think this is why he is in prison right now.
	He's currently in jail for contempt of court because he broadcast his documentary realleging what he has alleged about the...
	I can't remember the kid's name now, actually.
	The young man who was allegedly a bully in the school, and he had put together in his documentary the evidence of this, which was denied by the courts.
	They found him guilty of defaming him, and he had to pay him however much money.
	And Tommy broadcast this documentary in public, and that was considered contempt of court, and so the Attorney General brought him up and sent him to jail.
	Well, what I think Keir Starmer is talking about is a previous time Tommy Robinson went to jail.
	Six years ago, when he was at the Huddersfield case, and he was arrested and locked up.
	Although, in Tommy's perspective, he asked the police where should he stand.
	The police told him that, and they decided that he was in fact endangering the court case, and so he ended up going to jail for 13 months.
	This sounds a bit...
	Yeah, it's all politically motivated.
	I mean, there were other journalists around doing exactly the same thing, but they were like, oh, you're Tommy Robinson, you're going to jail.
	You have an area of effect.
	Yeah, it's...
	It's obvious that there's no neutrality in the British state towards Mr. Robinson.
	The entire reason that he is consistently in the headlines is because they have essentially been primed to use him as a totem of working class opposition to the current order.
	And so he is systematically discriminated against.
	Lots and lots of different ways.
	Like, I mean, he's been debanked, he's been deplatformed, he's been banned from going to certain towns, and he's been, like, there was one time where he was in a pub with his family, and the police just came, arrived, and then essentially marched him out of the city.
	I can't remember which city it was, like, Telford or something.
	And it was just like, you're not allowed to do that.
	You can't just do that.
	But of course they can because it's him, and he is an outlaw from their perspective.
	Anyway, he also accused Tommy Robinson of getting a vicarious thrill from street violence.
	It's like, I mean, maybe 15 years ago in the EDL, but this seems quite anachronistic because in the last five years, or ten years, I don't think he's done anything that would counter street violence.
	And the Unite the Kingdom rallies have been totally superb and really well run.
	I know because I've been speaking at them.
	So anyway, it's not like Starmer himself is some sort of golden boy here.
	When it comes to this, I mean, Starmer has been accused of snubbing whistleblowers who want to expose the Rotherham grooming gangs.
	And it's as if Starmer is trying to take ownership of the problem, but it's like, but we know you're not.
	We know you have admitted that...
	And in fact, this in particular, obviously, dismissing the whistleblowers is a massive problem.
	But prior to this, in 2012, Starmer admitted, yeah, the Crown Prosecution Service, of whom he was in charge from 2008 to 2012, failed the grooming gangs.
	2013, I think it was.
	but he said after the Rochdale scandal in 2012 broke publicly the then director of public prosecution said the perpetrators had escaped justice for decades because of the failure of authorities to take the abuse seriously he had also conceded that the ethnicity of the suspects had been an issue and that prosecutors failed to understand the nature of the abuse that's all correct You don't differ on Tommy Robinson's position on this issue.
	Keir Starmer and Tommy Robinson have the same point on this.
	And so...
	And these comments came after it was revealed that CPS, under his leadership, had dropped a case against a rape gang despite overwhelming evidence of their guilt?
	It's because there's a different narrative.
	Yes.
	The same people can say that, okay, we agree on statistics regarding crime about certain ethnicities as being overrepresented, but then you're going to have the left saying, yeah, I will circulate these statistics, but I will allow only the narrative that says that they are only due to economic conditions, so I'm going to tax you more to pay for more money so that their crime decreases.
	Yes.
	It's all a way of how it is integrated into a narrative.
	Yeah, we'll go through a few things and then summarise what the essential problem with all of this is.
	So he then goes on to defend Jess Phillips, saying that she has done a thousand times more than Tommy Robinson, presumably on the subject of grooming gangs, which is just not true, as far as I can tell.
	She's done nothing.
	Just how?
	Exactly.
	I'm not really sure what Jess Phillips has ever actually done on the grooming gangs, although most recently, as her...
	In her position and capacity as safeguarding minister, she did reject Oldham Council's request for a government inquiry into the grooming gang in Oldham.
	Of course, there was one recently arrested and finally prosecuted.
	The ringleaders prosecuted, but obviously the customs of these gangs are still just at large.
	But Jess Phillips decided that she didn't want to have anything to do with that, and we discussed this in the roundtable, because I think it's honestly...
	Probably, I mean, I think that Jess Phillips is lazy, and a large part of this is her just going, I don't want to have to do this.
	But another part of it is, I don't want to be incorporated into a narrative that will help the far right.
	I mean, that's genuinely a concern they have.
	It says they're Minister for Safeguarding and Violence Against Women and Girls.
	Shouldn't be...
	Shouldn't she be the first person to ask for a national inquiry?
	I think she'd be demanding it.
	And not just someone whose name is constantly being appealed to in order to divert attention from what is actually important in this case.
	Yeah.
	You'd think that she'd be leading the charge and saying, no, every single one of these men are going to jail.
	But of course, Jess Phillips' problem is that her constituency is something like 40% Muslim.
	Yeah.
	And she only won in her constituency with something like 700 votes.
	A very low margin.
	To a Muslim independent candidate.
	And the Labour Party are becoming well aware that in fact the Muslim enclaves in Britain can just select their own candidates who will more accurately represent themselves and their opinions on things like Gaza and won't be engaged in this kind of discourse.
	And so she's kind of trapped in a place where she can't escape from.
	Yes, actually.
	I mean, I would be surprised if she were to win another term in her seat.
	But anyway, then Keir Starmer moved on, saying, well, we've seen this playbook many times, whipping up intimidation and threats of violence, hoping the media will amplify.
	It's like, okay, but at the time, nobody had seen anything.
	We're like, right, what is this about?
	And it seems they were just playing the victim.
	But they did manage to produce one guy who had sent some malicious communications to Jess Phillips.
	So, one moron who has been rightly arrested.
	I assume he sent threats.
	I don't know.
	In this article, they don't tell us what he said to her.
	So, I don't know what the nature of his communications was.
	I'm just going to take it for granted that they're telling us the truth, and that this is exactly as threatening as they make it out to be.
	But of course, and I'm sure it doesn't need to be stressed, don't send Jess Phillips threatening messages.
	They say threatening messages, but as you pointed out, they don't say what the threat was, and I don't know to what extent they describe it as incitement to violence, which is obviously not...
	They describe it as malicious messages.
	But if that is the case and they don't say exactly what it is about them that led to the prosecution, they are...
	I mean, literally, they just said messages sent between April 2024 and January 2025. So it's not like it can be reasonably asserted that these...
	messages are a consequence of Elon Musk's tweets either.
	These are, again, from a year ago nearly.
	So they're just fine.
	I mean, it literally seems very politically convenient where it's like, oh no, we need to get this guy now so we can say that Jess Phillips is in fact the victim of Elon Musk's highlighting of the grooming gang issue that she is taking no part in accepting.
	I mean, with the Oldham Council thing, she literally is saying, no, you can just do the inquiry yourself.
	The government's going to have no part in it.
	It's like, but why?
	Like, why wouldn't you want to if you were the minister for safeguarding women and girls?
	Like, it just seems to me that would be entirely the only job you have is to look into these cases.
	But sadly, we see a pattern across Europe and the West, I think.
	When we have crime committed by members of...
	Groups that the left considers to be oppressed.
	In fact, they consider them their allies at any given moment.
	They isolate it and they say it's an isolated incident and no one will infer any pattern from it.
	Whereas if it's crime committed by a person from the other side, from someone who is a member of a group they don't consider to be their allies, they're projecting patterns on it, like far-right pandemic haunting Europe.
	And it's very interesting how this guy was only charged over the weekend.
	So they knew these messages had been sent a year ago, nearly.
	But it's only when Elon Musk starts tweeting about this.
	So, like, right, grab him, charge him.
	He's threatening Jess Phillips.
	She's the victim.
	This is a far-right narrative.
	Look, you're trying to threaten MPs.
	It's like, sorry, I'm not buying it.
	I'm just not buying it.
	I think this is entirely too conveniently timed.
	I mean, obviously punish this idiot in whatever way is necessary.
	Allowed under the law, obviously.
	And maybe this will be a lesson.
	Don't message politicians with mean things.
	But I don't believe that this has been ginned up by Elon Musk.
	And he carries on and says, when the poison of the far right leads to serious threats to Jess Phillips and others, in my book, a line has been crossed.
	It's like, okay, right.
	So, Jess Phillips is now the real victim of the grooming gang scandal.
	...
	...
	It's not that she is doing nothing to protect women and girls from being predated on by the grooming gangs.
	And it's not that she's going to hold any accountability in her position as a member of the government or historically as someone who has made it culturally difficult to address this issue as part of the ruling sort of left-wing elite ideology.
	No.
	She's now the victim of it and therefore you shouldn't talk about it because you're endangering her life when you bring this issue to the fore.
	That's just entirely intended to divert attention.
	Everyone should talk 100% about the operation of the grooming gangs and how it was covered up.
	And instead of that, almost everyone is talking about the far right, about messages to Jess Phillips.
	And I want to ask you something, because we are listening about threatening.
	We listen to people from Labour saying that members of Labour have received threatening messages and have been prosecuted.
	Was it February or April where Lindsay Hoyle in the UK Parliament said members of Labour MP have received threatening messages?
	I don't remember anyone prosecuted for that.
	No, and you could see the palpable sense of fear from Hoyle as well.
	And these were threats that were coming from a specific community as well.
	Not, of course, far-right threats.
	The palpable sense of fear, and he literally said, I don't want any of you to turn up dead, basically.
	And it was like, okay, well.
	Anyway, so going back on to Keir Starmer, he says, quote, we have to base our debate on facts and truth, not lies, which is a deeply ironic thing, considering he began with an untruth about why Tommy Robinson was in jail, and he's obscuring the fact that...
	These messages were not sent as a response to Elon Musk's tweets.
	They were clearly sent prior to that.
	So he's begun with lies.
	And he says, not only on those who are so desperate for attention, they're prepared to debase themselves and their country.
	Is he referring to Jess Phillips there?
	Feels like he might be.
	This government will get on with the job of protecting victims, including child sex abuse, mandatory reporting, and accelerating the process.
	But what I won't tolerate is this discussion and debate based on lies.
	Okay, well, you're the one lying, but...
	If it wasn't for Elon Musk bringing this to the forum, if it wasn't for Tommy Robinson and others bringing this subject front and center, you would have just let this go.
	Exactly.
	And misinformation requires people talking about something, whereas the main issue here was silence.
	Yes.
	The only way to avoid speaking something that is inaccurate...
	Whether intentionally or not, is to be silent about it.
	The main problem here was silence about the operation of the grooming gangs.
	That's why they're diverting attention yet again when they're talking about misinformation.
	They absolutely would prefer you not to talk about this subject.
	This is exactly their position.
	And that's why they are mad at Elon Musk.
	Because he has a reach other people don't.
	Yes, and so they're taking all of the dirty tactics that they can and throwing them at the wall to see what can stick.
	For example, they're trying to weaponize the grooming gang victims against Elon Musk.
	So, as you can see here, they've decided to find a group of victims of gender-based violence.
	Who have criticised Elon Musk for his attack on Jess Phillips, saying that she had devoted her life for fighting for women and girls.
	In a letter shared with The Guardian, so is it not public?
	So it's a letter they've written and sent to The Guardian.
	They haven't posted it publicly, as far as I'm aware.
	So, including three survivors of the Telford sexual abuse scandal, they came to the Labour MP's defence and said there was no one in public life who has done more to support the victims.
	It's like, sure, that's...
	Okay, so you've got seven women, three of whom are Telford survivors.
	We don't know who they are.
	They obviously have a political position.
	But the thing is, there are other people who are also survivors of the grooming gangs, such as Sammy Woodhouse here, who is...
	Completely on side with Elon Musk, who is completely in defense of Elon Musk saying thank you so much for bringing this to mainstream attention when they've done everything they can to sweep it under the rug.
	I mean, you get people like Charlie Peters who have also spoken to survivors of the grooming gangs.
	And he's, as he says here, I've asked some survivors of the abuse gangs for their reenaction to Starmer's Line.
	Those calling for an inquiry are just jumping on the bandwagon amid the poison of the far right.
	I can't print anything that I've been told so far, just pure anger.
	One survivor from Rotherham told me, quote, quote, survivor from Rotherham told me, quote, quote, survivor from So, this again.
	It's a kind of disgraceful tactic.
	Oh, well, you know, seven unnamed victims of this have come forward to defend Jess Phillips and attacking Elon Musk over it.
	It's like, why are you weaponising these people?
	Because this seems to me to be suggesting that they care much more about their narrative than about people.
	Well, that's exactly what this is.
	So what has happened here is a closing of ranks of the liberal elite in Britain.
	The second Elon Musk started saying, hey, actually, I think that maybe dealing with these child rape gangs is something that actually should be the paramount issue that any government in Britain should face and crack down on, what they decided was that he was a foreigner and he wasn't allowed to comment and, in fact, this was a threat to...
	The liberal hegemony of Britain, their particular narrative, as you say.
	And they have literally become Little Englander xenophobes over it because it's Elon Musk.
	If it was anyone else speaking about a different subject, they would have absolutely nothing to say on this issue.
	Exactly.
	So, just as a quick finishing point on this one...
	Apparently, reform are going to hold the full public inquiry themselves.
	Raising money won't be a problem, which is a good start.
	And I think it is worth noting that the Conservatives did set up a task force in 2023 which did arrest many of the ringleaders of these grooming gangs.
	But that's just going to show you that it was only two years ago that they were still operating and that no action had really been taken and that this needed to be done.
	So, I mean, this should have been done back in 2011. When it became a public scandal and that everyone found out about it.
	And it's not like there haven't been plenty of inquiries since.
	Like, we're going to go through some of what the inquiries have discovered, in fact, in a minute, which should have justified this kind of action.
	And again, this is the bare minimum, right?
	Just to be clear, this is the absolute bare minimum that was done under the Sunak premiership.
	It should have been done a decade before with a lot more, honestly, a lot more bloody vigour.
	Anyway, let's go to some comments.
	Inexo says, I saw this clip.
	And we'll probably have to talk about it at some point.
	But, yes, to my knowledge, Tommy Robinson has never been even accused of violence against women.
	I haven't heard anything.
	Yeah, I've never even heard of this.
	I would be very surprised.
	Why Nigel feels the need to attack Tommy is bizarre, because what he's trying to do with that is put himself within the narrative of the left.
	He's trying to say, you know, I actually agree with...
	What you're saying here, instead of taking the dissident revolutionary line that Trump and Elon are taking, that kind of, no, we're against the establishment and the people who haven't actually really done anything wrong are our people and you are the ones oppressing and victimizing them.
	Well, I think if reform doesn't want to associate with Tommy Robinson, Rupert Lowe's post yesterday was good and maybe Farage should appeal to that.
	Yeah.
	If he is constantly pressed on the issue.
	It's driving me crazy because Nigel doesn't have to associate with Tommy Robinson.
	He doesn't have to.
	He can just say he's not a member of the party and we don't think he'd be a right fit for the party.
	But the grooming gangs are a problem.
	You, you, you.
	And start attacking on the issue of the grooming gangs.
	instead of saying well Tommy Robinson's been accused of violence against women again if he has I'm just not aware of it and I don't know where I would find this information from because you'd think it'd be in every newspaper report about Tommy Robinson uh how he would be able to get away with away from that I mean they're currently uh castigating uh one of the reform MPs for violence against women when he was like 20 or something like this so 20 odd years ago
	if tommy robinson had done something similar you better believe we would have heard about it oph uk says england's daughters are gang raped its toddlers stabbed and its people gunned down in the name of islam the uk government condones facilitates and covers up the abuses for dei the english are stateless people uh yes uh Sorry, Nigel did this on LBC, not on TV. I did see the clip.
	I didn't know where it was from, though.
	But LBC this morning, right.
	And thank you, that's a random name, but I'm not going to read that.
	Sorry.
	There are some things probably best not to.
	So, I think the thing to move on to is that, yes, it absolutely was a cover-up.
	The authorities knew, the police knew, the councillors knew, the MPs knew, the media knew, and they went out of their way to cover this up.
	And so this is going to be a detailed look at just some of the examples of how...
	They covered this up.
	Because this is just atrocious.
	It's absolutely atrocious.
	And speaks to a Britain whose time, I think, is past.
	So the sort of 2000s consensus of the Love Actually Keir Starmer types being in control of the cultural narrative and handing that down through the institutions and through proliferating that through the culture to make people essentially be complicit in terrible crimes.
	I'm going to lean heavily on work that Sam Ashworth Hayes has done here.
	Sam is a columnist at the Telegraph, and he's just doing superb work on the grooming gangs, frankly.
	He's doing a really, really, really excellent job of uncovering these monumental flaws in what has happened.
	And not even flaws.
	Deliberate policy.
	So, beginning with the police turning a blind eye.
	So this was a particular case in Rotherham, where the grooming gang...
	The abuser, the Pakistani adult man, was abusing a girl in a car next to the police station.
	The police caught him in the act, and they said, well, what's going on?
	And he said, well, she's doing whatever.
	And they ignored it, and then just wandered off, as if this was completely normal.
	That's unbelievable.
	Yes.
	And it's just infuriating.
	And the obvious question is, why would they not pay attention to it?
	Why would they just dismiss it?
	No idea.
	I mean, she's literally like 13 or something, and they can see into the car.
	They can see what she's doing.
	They can see that he's making her do it.
	They can see that he's like, I mean, what was he, 44 when he was finally arrested?
	So in his 30s maybe?
	And they just decided, no, blind eye to that.
	Not our problem.
	Well, that's inconvenient.
	That's uncomfortable.
	We're not going to deal with this.
	And so they just wandered off.
	And so you've got other examples, right?
	So, in another case, when the police found a missing victim in a car with her abusers, they told her she'd get the men in trouble.
	So, you know, you can file a complaint, you can press charges, but you will be getting these guys in trouble, right?
	Police often stop cars in which CSA-12 was with her abuses, that's the victim herself, but took no action even after finding out her age and that she was missing from care.
	One police officer told me that I was what was going wrong in our society and that I was the type of person bringing about a bad society.
	Another one said that we were going to get these men in trouble because we wanted to act like child prostitutes.
	So, again, this comes from, allegedly, the Gordon Brown government.
	Putting the circular that Nazir Afzal claims, but I can't find any evidence of, of the general attitude is these children are choosing this lifestyle, and so, in fact, the moral burden falls on them.
	So you're 12 or 13, and you're being trafficked and raped, and that is, as far as the police are concerned, your choice, and you're the bad person here.
	This is very hard to believe.
	I think any person who would say this is just obviously engaging in very corrupt activities.
	You know what?
	I've got lots of friends who are from other countries who find it hard to believe.
	But it's totally believable if you were growing up in Britain or living in Britain.
	That a 12-year-old can consent.
	Sorry?
	That a 12-year-old can consent.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	It's not that...
	No, no, no.
	Obviously, a 12-year-old can't consent.
	What I mean is that the attitude of the people can be flipped into this...
	Trusting.
	More trusting.
	Sorry?
	That they are more trusting with respect to...
	No, no, no.
	The attitude of the authorities, right?
	So, obviously, the authorities are completely in the wrong here.
	And they should have identified, oh, there's a 12-year-old there with an adult man.
	She's being raped by the adult man, right?
	That should have been...
	The baseline understanding, right?
	But a lot of people from outside of Britain don't understand the kind of conformity that there was in the 2000s.
	There was a very powerful mainstream culture that thought of itself as having high standards, but it also thought of itself as being the protector of minority groups, right?
	And so the moral burden could never be placed on the minority group because It assumed in some way they were kind of inferior or incapable of making decisions as agents.
	And so the white girl, even though she's 12, she's treated as the agent who is operating on the gang itself, rather than, of course, the other way around, which was how it was in reality.
	And so this whole stinking attitude pervaded all of these institutions.
	And it came from the Labour Party's...
	Sort of paternalistic racial condescension towards minority groups.
	They assume, oh no, the white girl obviously is oppressing these brown guys.
	Yeah, no, I get it.
	But it seems to me that they are paternalistic in a way that doesn't say change your ways.
	No, not at all.
	I'm your father and I know you're good and I care about you.
	It's the opposite.
	Yeah, of course.
	I'm going to let you pray on my population.
	That's what it's...
	Yeah, the Labour government wants to preserve multiculturalism.
	And this kind of behaviour from this kind of community is, as far as they're concerned, essentially an authentic expression of that community.
	So the problem is the girl who is allowing this to happen.
	She's the one who is treated as the moral agent here by the police, not the gang members themselves.
	And this is literally something they end up running defense for.
	So if we go to the next one, again, you would think this wouldn't happen in the most abominable kind of fiction.
	It would seem unrealistic to write a fiction about this, but this is from the confession of one of the victims.
	She says, That she should be happy
	that I was getting taught a different culture.
	They believe this is a normal part of their culture.
	And that it's acceptable for them to express that through the abuse of English girls.
	Okay, I'm much more willing to say that this is just all excuses.
	They were just unbelievably corrupt.
	And they were just sugarcoating it in the way they thought that it was going to go.
	They were definitely corrupt, but ideologically so.
	Yeah, but this actually confirms what you were saying about the ideology of the times, is that they think that this is the language that would carry the message forward.
	That if they sugarcoat it in multiculturalist terms, being taught different cultures, being open and tolerant, that it would...
	Yeah, but this is a true belief of these people.
	This is the thing.
	And I realise it's hard to understand, but it genuinely...
	I was an adult through the early 2000s.
	These genuinely were the things they believed.
	And again, I realise that someone who wasn't here at the time, maybe, I don't know.
	You know I'm very suspicious, generally.
	I know, but I've got lots of other friends from Europe and places that aren't Britain who are like...
	V was just like, there's no way the word racist has that much power in Britain.
	I was like, you don't even know.
	You don't understand.
	The culture of conformity in Britain in the early 2000s made this kind of horrific stuff possible.
	And it made the police officers feel like they were doing the morally right thing.
	Look at the kind of high-handed way he's talking.
	You're a racist for saying that.
	Because what racist really means is the person outside of the grace of polite society.
	That's what that means.
	And you are getting taught a different culture.
	You should be appreciative of that.
	That is a moral assertion on the family.
	No, I know they're raping and abusing your daughter, but you're bad people, and you should be thankful for this, is what the underlying message is.
	And this is what they genuinely believed in the 2000s.
	And so...
	Again, it just gets worse.
	It gets worse and worse, right?
	So, here's one example of when a child went to the police.
	They would tip off the abusers because they are fully committed to the protection of the dignity of the community doing the abusing.
	And that's the thing.
	And so the abusers are themselves essentially kind of victims of these girls reporting the abuse.
	So he says here, The protection of offenders may have gone further still.
	In at least one case when a victim found the courage to go to the police, their abuser appears to have been tipped off.
	While still in the police station, one child received a text from her abuser informing her that he had her 11-year-old sister and that it was now your choice.
	The child chose not to go through with a complaint.
	As in, by the way, the girl you've been abusing is at the police station about to level charges against you You just thought you should know.
	So literally they then text her a threat to make her drop the complaint.
	That is the police completely being complicit, completely defending and being in bed with the grooming gangs.
	Again, you just have to understand the culture of the time, I swear to God.
	So is it like that they were saying that by accusing them of sexually abusing you, you're an obstacle to their integration?
	Yeah, well, yes, but what they're doing is trying to protect the reputation of the Pakistani community in Britain.
	And if you aren't consenting, this child isn't consenting to their own abuse, then that means that this community is doing something very, very bad to another community.
	Repeatedly.
	And this will gather them a stigma and make, essentially, It will bring forth racism.
	And it would harm the multiculturalist narrative.
	Absolutely.
	It will harm the multicultural utopia.
	And it will be a justified creation of racism in Britain.
	And so these girls have to have been making this choice for themselves.
	And it's under this rubric of if you admit that this is a problem and if you push this forward, then you are essentially harming the Muslim community in Britain.
	Is why the police are on the side of the abusers and not the abuse.
	They view themselves as trying to protect the entire community.
	Anyway.
	Question, was it the police or was the police ordered to do so?
	Because I can understand police officers who are closer to people being a bit resistant to this, but then you have a politician calling them and saying...
	There are definitely going to be some people in the police force who are resistant to this.
	However, many of the police are not exactly our best and brightest.
	They don't really know why they're doing this, but they do have their orders, and they will follow their orders.
	This will happen in all places and all times, by the way.
	They will do as they're told, because they select for people who are compliant in these forces.
	This isn't...
	They will see this...
	The institution itself is a big, powerful institution with many layers above them.
	And they're like, well, no, this is the moral justification you've been given.
	These are the orders.
	And so you kind of have to commit to that.
	And that's the culture of slow arbitration into accepting evil.
	Yes.
	And because of the...
	And again, you've got to remember this sort of...
	The powerful mechanism of conformity.
	The 2000s liberal culture of Britain had.
	You knew you were going to get moral reception from all of the institutions.
	The politicians, the police, the media, the councillors.
	Everyone would have been on your side and said, well done for preventing racism against the Pakistani community.
	Well done.
	That's worse than allowing them to rape children.
	They knew that they were leaning into safety.
	By doing this.
	Which is why, even now, none of these people have been arrested.
	They've probably still got their jobs.
	They're probably still on the beat as it is now.
	So there's been no comeuppance for this at all.
	But anyway, so you've got, again, just more from Sam here.
	Where police, as recently as 2018...
	Refusing to reopen dropped cases.
	So the case of Victoria Agoglia, who was herself forcibly injected with a heroin overdose by her pedophile rapists, was ignored.
	And the family has been seeking a new inquest in January of 2023. So this is a persistent problem that the family have been trying to get justice on.
	And the police have refused to reopen the case.
	They're like, no, there's just...
	They think there's not enough evidence for them to do this.
	And so, the police know.
	They know that this is there.
	They don't want to engage in it.
	And like I say, even the family, the grandmother's still pressing for this.
	Even to this day.
	Anyway, moreover, let's carry on.
	So, at least a thousand girls in Telford.
	The police decide they have to try and downplay it.
	They have to try and cover it up.
	They have to try and essentially blame the victims in the circumstance.
	So again, quoting here.
	Above all, there was concern over community relations.
	Senior council staff were terrified that the abuse of children had the potential to start a race riot.
	The result was stasis, despite officials acknowledging in at least one case that abuse by Asian men had gone on for years.
	It had.
	At least 1,000 girls were abused in the town between 1980 and 2009. Yet even this conservative estimate was disputed by authority figures, with West Mercia Police Superintendent Tom Harding insisting in 2018 that the figure was sensationalised.
	The Independent Review later found it entirely plausible.
	Why would they be downplaying it?
	Well, the answer is, of course, in the first paragraph.
	They don't want to create a race right.
	They want to preserve the harmony of multicultural Britain.
	And therefore...
	What they have to do is try and make it so that there is no legitimacy between the victimization of one community on another.
	This shows the rampant cultural decline across Europe.
	I'm not singling out the UK because this happens across Europe and also in the US. There's a moving away from common sense when it comes to policing that says that the police is there to enforce the law and it isn't there as a moral arbiter.
	It isn't there to promote what Any person thinks is the high good.
	I saw a tweet by Tom Holland, the historian, saying that that was a noble thing to do because the...
	Exactly.
	I can't understand this.
	And I think he doubled down 10 years afterwards.
	Exactly.
	How can you say a thing like this?
	Exactly.
	But this is precisely the kind of moral culture that the 2000s person had.
	Because the Tony Blair government...
	Brought in millions of foreigners.
	And so their primary concern is, well, we've got to make sure that they are safe and comfortable in Britain, that nothing bad happens to them, because we've essentially brought them as guests into our country.
	And Tom Holland said, oh no, it was a noble goal.
	Yeah, but the police is there as an institution to keep everyone safe.
	Not just some people safe.
	But remember, they're worried about a race riot because they're looking at the numbers.
	They know there are way more English people in Britain than there are Muslims.
	If their job is keeping people safe, it's the noble goal to make sure that the English don't have a negative opinion of the Muslim community in Britain.
	And that's literally, and the Tom Holland thing, it was perfect.
	It was a perfect representation.
	It's like, oh, I know that is terrible, but it was for a greater good.
	It was for a noble goal.
	You know, we need to make sure there's community.
	And this has been the dominant paradigm and principal motive for all of this is the protection of the Muslim community against the majority community.
	And this has given them cover to do all of this.
	And again, right, so the Telford thing is just shocking.
	Absolutely staggering.
	Wow, a thousand girls.
	Jesus.
	Telford must be, like, majority Muslim or something.
	No!
	Telford is not majority Muslim, right?
	There are, in Telford, where's the religion?
	Right.
	72,000 Christians, 4,860 Muslims as of 2021. Right?
	So let's just break those numbers down a bit.
	So half of those are going to be men.
	So you've got 2,400.
	And let's say 400 of those are children.
	So they can't have been involved in any of this.
	That means that for every adult male, about 2,000 adult men, Muslim men in Telford, there are 1,000 victims.
	One victim for every two men.
	That's unbelievable.
	Now you can see all of a sudden why they'd be worried.
	Oh my God.
	If people found out about this and started to view this as...
	they started to put together these numbers, then they would have a negative view of the Muslim community in Talbot, wouldn't they?
	Yeah, the problem with this is that people don't understand multiculturalism doesn't create problems only when your population is the minority.
	It creates problems, generally speaking.
	Yes.
	And one of the reasons is that...
	It doesn't have to be the majority.
	Once you have a strong enough minority, they can apply pressure and they can say, we are going to apply pressure for a renegotiation of the initial terms of cohabitation within a country.
	They don't even have to be a strong minority.
	This is a tiny minority.
	I didn't mean strong in terms of numbers.
	What they have, though, is just state backing.
	The authorities, you know, the councillors, the police, the media, the politicians, the governments are behind the minority and what the minority is doing.
	Yes, exactly.
	You can just see it through their own words.
	You know, they will literally say this.
	I mean, Tommy got in trouble by saying, well, look, from his investigations, he thinks that 20% of the Muslim men in Telford were involved in the prostituting and raping of children.
	I was like, maybe.
	How else do 2,000 men...
	End up with a thousand victims.
	Unless a sizable percentage of them are involved in it.
	And it's like, sorry, I'm not allowed to say that.
	I'm probably in trouble.
	I'll probably have to edit this out for YouTube, actually.
	Maybe they're saying that right now it's that.
	You don't know how far back it goes.
	Well, from 1980. Yeah, so if it's 30 years, the population may have changed or something.
	I have no idea.
	Absolutely.
	I'm not saying that that's the case.
	But the point is, when you have numbers this large in a community this small, the natural assumption is that it's a widespread phenomenon in that community.
	Well, yeah.
	I think that this shows a lot about the issue with the ideology you're describing as creating all this complexity.
	Because the idea initially was we can have people...
	In different neighborhoods, they're going to practice their own cultures so long as they respect a kind of common legal framework.
	A kind of moral ethic as well.
	Yeah, but the problem is that this shows that nothing of the sort happened.
	There was no goodwill returned for goodwill that was shown.
	And what happened was that when...
	And this is what tends to happen in multicultural societies.
	When you have a group whose culture and whose numbers increase and their power increases and you have the power of the other groups decreasing, what they're going to do is that they're going to push for a renegotiation of that legal framework.
	Or they're going to say, don't care about it at all.
	Yeah, it'll just eventually become not an issue.
	But anyway, let's carry on because...
	It's not like Telford Council were in any way exempt from all of this.
	Again, as Sam's pointing out, similar concerns applied to the council.
	This is specifically in Telford Council, where anxieties over appearing racist saw safeguarding officers waving away concerns simply because the perpetrators were Asian.
	It was felt that some suspects were not investigated because it would not have been politically correct.
	Or it would have been politically incorrect.
	This is not to say the council did nothing.
	Aware that taxi drivers were offering children rides for sex in 2006, it suspended license enforcement for drivers, allowing high-risk drivers to continue practicing.
	As opposed to jail.
	As opposed to jail for raping children.
	Like, again, I know from an outside perspective it is very difficult to believe all of this, right?
	Because it sounds preposterous, but you have to remember that they, We're worried that people will have a negatively characteristic view of this minority community.
	And as people who are dogged multiculturalists, they are insistent on defending the honour and reputation of the community.
	And they will do anything.
	They will go to any lengths to not be called racists.
	To negatively characterise a minority community.
	Is the highest bad in this moral framework.
	And they know it.
	And this is why it keeps coming up.
	It was entirely born out of fear of accusations of racism.
	And this is what the Telford Inquiry found.
	So, just to be clear, the people they were defending were themselves massive racists.
	Incredibly racist.
	So, Charlie is another person who's done, along with Sam, incredible work on all of this.
	Honestly, I'm very glad I can showcase it, right?
	So, he gives the example of the Rochdale ringleader who repeatedly just said, well, look, everything being said against me is all white lies.
	As in, it's just racial lies.
	And again, he obviously targeted only English girls for racist reasons.
	And this is a persistent thing.
	This is from...
	What's the chap's name?
	Peter McLaughlin's Easy Meat, right?
	Where in the Rochdale case, he says, and again, it's the same guys.
	It's the same guys, right?
	We are the supreme race, not these white bastards.
	Why?
	So, the ruling anti-racist philosophy of multiculturalism is directly protecting Virulent racists.
	It's all about who is the ally of the left at each moment.
	Yes.
	But they are doing everything they can to protect the good reputation of insane racists.
	People who literally will say, we are the supreme race.
	This is mad.
	Absolutely mad.
	It's maddening to have to deal with.
	And the thing is that none of this is new.
	None of this is new.
	It's just coming to light now.
	This has all been in the public domain for a long time.
	They could all have found this if they wanted to.
	They just didn't want to.
	And I've been talking about this since 2014, since the Alexis J report came out.
	So, anyway, the institutions of this country are preposterous.
	It's preposterous.
	So, again, they know.
	They knew that this was based on religion and ethnicity.
	This kind of, you know...
	The combination of the Muslim community is not merely an ideologically or religiously bound community.
	It is also an ethnically bound community.
	And everyone knows this.
	And as this particular judge notes, this was something that they recognized.
	They recognized in this that these men were targeting the English girls because they were English and because they perceived the English to be either Christian or atheist.
	And so they were like, right, not Muslim, not Pakistani, fair game.
	And this, again, it's been known for a long, long time.
	And weirdly, they decided, you know what we're going to do is stop recording the ethnicity of the suspects.
	That's incredibly suspicious.
	That's the admission of guilt.
	It's the admission that we failed.
	Exactly.
	It's the admission that, look...
	Don't talk about it.
	But again, why would you do it?
	Why would you do it?
	Determined to protect the good reputation of that particular community.
	That's all that could be for.
	That reminds me of Machiavelli, who says at some point in the press, if you want to do something that's going to be deeply unpopular, do it fast and people will forget about it and carry on with their lives.
	Yeah.
	So that's a loss.
	That's an admission of loss.
	Yeah, that is.
	But again, the only reason to do it is, because from a practical policing perspective, you'd be like, okay, I need to know what kind of person.
	I'm looking for.
	But if they don't record it, they have to have no practical reason not to record it.
	It has to literally be, we know what the response will be, and we don't want to stigmatize the community.
	And so if this community keeps producing these problems, then we'll just literally stop recording it so it doesn't have to come up again.
	And of course...
	Keir Starmer and his government are not interested in carrying on the inquiry.
	And I think it was Ben Habib who put it best on GB News recently when he says, look, I actually don't want another inquiry because we have plenty of inquiries.
	There have been loads of inquiries.
	What I would like, and I agree with him completely, is that the police and any other authorities involved should be arrested and charged with being complicit and they should go to jail.
	And I completely agree with him on that.
	Anyway, let's go to some more comments.
	Um, right.
	So there are lots of comments about people who are angry at the police and I appreciate that.
	I'm going to summarise them by saying thank you for the donation, and don't do or say anything stupid, especially if you live in Britain.
	We aren't a free country, remember that please.
	And to the Americans who have said things that I can't say in Britain, I can't say that, but I very much appreciate your solace.
	Connor Smug Mug says, even as a Pole living in Poland, my blood boils at the mere idea that any of this can happen to my 12 and 14-year-old cousins in Britain.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's as simple as the following idea.
	It's just some people want to have children and this shouldn't be allowed.
	It's as basic as that.
	Yeah.
	Again, outside of the 2000s Love Actually consensus, this is a moral abomination, and no one would even think about doing the right thing in this.
	But we are living in the ruins of that society, and we are still dogged by the moral hegemony that it imposed over us.
	And I realise, again, it looks preposterous, but trust me, that's genuinely how they felt.
	It's genuinely how they felt.
	Let's go to the video comments.
	This ennobles them to have a responsibility.
	I know because my 15 year old daughter is as much a Santa enforcer as I am and anyone else is.
	I don't know when she stopped.
	Well, my daughter's only two, so she hasn't got her own set of power armor yet.
	That's the daughter heresy.
	Yeah, but no, I very much claim the throne.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Hello everyone, welcome to This Week in Stupid.
	Musk is staging a concerted attack on British democracy!
	Just please stop gangs molesting children.
	And Paul Mason's like, battle stations!
	Full alert!
	The far right are on the march!
	Create and amplify a coherent narrative of national unity!
	Democratic resilience and social justice!
	What the fuck are you talking about?
	They're raping kids, Paul!
	Paul!
	We want them to stop raping kids.
	Well, I mean, I agree with myself.
	I I'm on stop, that's all.
	What you're seeing on screen now, ladies and gentlemen, is a screenshot that I took of a recent Guardian article.
	Yes, that really is the title.
	I would like to propose this as a fun Stelios cringe segment.
	Stelios, if you do happen to see this, do you think this might be worth investigating?
	Well, I think that it's a fun point.
	Thanks, Sam, but I don't know.
	Karl, what do you think?
	I think it's actually interesting, the framing on this.
	Because we've done a lot about erotic literature in Wales.
	We have the gay Arthur.
	Oh yeah, we did actually, didn't we?
	I forgot about that.
	We need to have a sequel.
	I'm fine for us to do it, but I think the framing's interesting that the Welsh culture is part of the node of multiculturalism, where they recognise that it's not part of the main English culture that could be protected, as if it were a foreign culture that needs special guarding.
	Yeah.
	Half months of life expectancy.
	It's also important to note his own wording.
	He said that he will be resigning after a new leader is chosen.
	Yes, Parliament is prorogued until March 24th.
	However, they might not have a new leadership chosen.
	That's just when they're allowed to go back into the House with a clean slate all of a sudden.
	And this lends to my theory that Justin Trudeau refuses to leave and step down until he has the opportunity to host the G7. To be fair, and thanks Alex for pointing it out, I think what we did as far as the segment was concerned was to end by saying that it doesn't really matter because whoever comes afterward...
	Just agrees with the same Trudeau vision.
	So if he just stays until he loses the next election or something, it's immaterial as far as policies are concerned.
	But we are allowed to have fun every time there is speculation about Trudeau.
	I like the Stelios asserting, no, we're allowed to have fun.
	Welcome back to the gun channel of the Lotus Eaters.
	This time we're looking at a Mauser sporting rifle chambered in 8x57 that was put together by the German Gunmakers Guild.
	Note the full-length rib on top of the barrel, along with the double-set triggers and the narrow sporting style stock.
	I have yet to find a load that it truly shoots well, but I'm sure there's one to be had.
	Man, the sound of that loading is so satisfying.
	It just sounds great.
	And the shot.
	Sorry?
	And the sound of the shot.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	If we politically alienate the whole of Islam, we will lose.
	We'll lose.
	When will the lesson be learned?
	When will the lesson be learned?
	How many more dictators must be wooed?
	Appeased!
	Don't give any mixed privileges before we learn!
	You cannot reason with a tiger when your head is in its mouth!
	Fair point.
	I don't think Winston Churchill would have appeased Islam.
	I have a question about this.
	Go on.
	You know, feminists shaving their heads to defy Trump.
	I find it funny that they're essentially making themselves look like the women that collaborated with the Germans during World War II, which is apropos because the feminists are also trying to assist in invading Horde to despoil their country.
	honestly I think I'd be a bit more sympathetic to the old-timing collaborators because you could make an economic argument that they were just hooking up with guys that could get them food during a time of famine I don't know it's Again, I think it's all about who is the ally of the left at each moment.
	Sure.
	North FC Zuma says, it says Carl and the Stelios in the video description.
	Yeah.
	So I'm going to call him the Stelios, especially after that intro.
	Specifically to denote the one and only Stelios.
	The proletariat says, It was quite good, I have to say.
	Andrew says, Yeah, it is very frustrating, honestly.
	Grant does point out that the legalization of marijuana was an extremely popular policy when he got elected.
	Yeah, and that's been in kind of liberal circles for a long time, that this should be something that is done.
	And honestly, I used to think the same myself back when I was a liberal.
	But I've come to the conclusion that no, actually, I don't want it.
	It stinks.
	Ban it.
	So, you know.
	Chase says, Canadian liberals routinely dismiss his blackface as a baseless conservative talking point.
	What?
	Are there not enough photos?
	Are there not enough photos of him in blackface?
	He felt bad.
	He apologised.
	He felt bad.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They're literally under some sort of sick spell.
	That is true.
	100% true.
	Liberalism is a kind of spell.
	And again, it's the sort of spell that allowed the police to be like, well, she's just going to bring this community into disrepute.
	You know, we're going to have a momentary truce on this.
	But I will say I hate, one of the reasons why I hate this party is because they're giving their name to the worst policies, giving justification.
	What a coincidence that they just happen to be liberals and they're doing the worst things that liberalism can do.
	Just saying, Stelios.
	There's an alternative route out of liberalism.
	Afray Bentos for a Haitian says, I'm sure Trudeau will be very comfortable in his new job at the Tony Blair Institute.
	Yeah, that's the thing that bothers me, These people are just forever going to fail upwards into the globalists.
	Do you think he's smart enough to be a member of it?
	I think he's been a loyal enough soldier.
	Yeah.
	So what are they going to make him?
	A cleaner or something?
	Well, they might.
	I don't know what his actual job will be.
	But he will be protected by these institutions.
	He's been loyal to them.
	in the same way that jacinda ardern is baron von warhawk says you willing to step down from power you're no son of mine the ghost of fidel fidel castro that's very good um carl sliding into elon's dm says at this point anyone who disagrees with insect insectional globalism is effectively far right correct the term means nothing anymore and kia showed that using the term against those concerned with the mass rape of That's correct.
	It means not part of the global liberal agenda.
	That's what it means.
	In opposition to it.
	Caroline says, is it too much to ask that when my daughter comes home from school in floods of tears, the first thing that empties my head will be something other than, has she been raped?
	Keir Starmer and Jess Phillips, yes, that is too much for you to ask, you far-right racist.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I've got two daughters.
	I'm just as terrified, man.
	I swear to God.
	Like, it never used to be this way.
	Never used to be this way.
	Omar says, and I can't even imagine how bad it is in places like Rochdale or Telford or Bradford.
	I'll continue listing the names.
	Because the more working class you get, the worse it is.
	Because I live in a nice middle class suburb in the south, right?
	So, you know, I'm probably going to be okay.
	My daughters are probably okay.
	These people have to live cheek by jowl with the community that is doing the victimizing.
	Every day they have to be exposed to them.
	It's just terrible, man.
	I genuinely hate it.
	Omar says, something that I think doesn't come across in the discourse that Americans find difficulty understanding.
	They just really loathe the working class.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, that's the thing.
	A lot of this is definitely going to be inflicted on the working class deliberately by the Labour government.
	You know, rubbing their noses in it.
	And Mandelson said it didn't matter if they alienate the working class vote because, quote, where else are they going to go?
	And it's like, well, thank God they can go somewhere else now.
	Henry says, That's a great description.
	The modern...
	Again, I've been calling them the love-actually leaders because they are representative of the moral consensus of the early 2000s.
	But it's as if they're not there.
	It's as if they're not there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like the steel worker who was confronting Trudeau and Trudeau was responding to him as if he told him something completely different.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Literally like an AI program.
	Yeah.
	Just chat GPT talking.
	You get more out of chat GPT, to be honest.
	The Unbreakable Litany says, Labour has aided and abetted the grooming gangs.
	Aiding and abetting is on the subject, I should think.
	And Jess Phillips is a Labour MP. Jimbo says, I genuinely wonder whether MPC Starmer even knows what he's saying at this point.
	In a matter of days, Elon has him like a trollop in the stocks.
	Yeah, I know.
	Elon, like, I don't think the Labour Party understands just how bad they look at the moment.
	Like, in...
	I mean, I've got lots of friends internationally, obviously, via social media, who are just like, yeah, the people in this country think this is gross.
	Because, of course, they're not getting, like, the...
	In our country, the media can try and massage the narrative and be like, oh no, we'll just pump out wall-to-wall propaganda on how Elon Musk is actually a bad person for bringing this up.
	But you're not getting that in other countries.
	They're like, why would we talk about this?
	And so people are only getting Elon Musk and his 200 million followers being like, oh my god.
	They're not getting the counter-narrative constantly pumped into the soft heads of the public.
	I don't think they understand how...
	Much on borrowed time they are about this.
	And again, the arrogance of the moral certainty that they stand on to be like, oh no, because they really think what we're doing is preventing racism against Pakistanis by defending the grooming gangs.
	They really think this.
	It's like a...
	It reminds me of the Minotaur story.
	It's like you sacrifice some children for something you consider to be the greater good.
	Yeah, well, you know...
	You don't want the Minotaur eating everyone else.
	And then Jimbo says...
	Oh no, I read that one.
	Sorry.
	Bleach Demon says before, I know the discussion has been had before about why specific outlets cannot stand stronger against this overt and violent rampant abuse of English girls, but for the life of me, I cannot fathom why there haven't been mass protests.
	There were.
	The EDL was a mass protest against this.
	And the establishment cracked down on them like nothing else.
	So...
	And again, you will end up becoming like Tommy Robinson.
	Totally ostracized from society.
	Unable to get a bank account.
	Deprived of your property.
	Deplatformed from everything.
	Made into a pariah by polite society.
	So, like, it's difficult to go to places.
	Like, you know, Tommy can't, like, go and get a...
	Can't go to a nice restaurant in London and get a seat.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, if they were...
	Well, Tommy...
	No, we can't have him.
	You know, he'll...
	So, like, that's why...
	People don't speak out because they still have this kind of control and it's only until that's broken and it becomes acceptable to speak out that things can become any better.
	The proletariat says sex slavery exists in every Islamic culture where the West is unable to enforce social norms by the diplomatic or military pressure.
	The abuse is actually the Islamic norm.
	The only way to fix it is the same course of action by which Sati was ended in India.
	It's time to build some gallows.
	Well, it's...
	Honestly, I mean, I don't really care what they do over there.
	It's not my business.
	We're not an imperial power.
	We just should be in control of the kind of behaviour that happens here.
	Brian says, Two-tier secret queer gear has drawn his demarcation line.
	If you support the rape of English children by Pakistani pedo gangs, vote Labour.
	If you are normal, don't vote Labour.
	And that's literally all it comes down to.
	Anyway, thank you for joining us, folks.
	Sorry, I couldn't be more jolly with my segments, but it just has to be covered, doesn't it?
	I'd rather do something frivolous, frankly.
	That's not frivolous.
	It's something important that's happened.
	But this is just constantly on my mind because Elon's filling my timeline with it, which is a good thing.
	So I thought I'd cover it.

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