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Hello and welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Caesars, episode 1074, for today, the 8th of January 2025. Happy New Year, everyone.
I haven't been on yet.
I am your host, Connor, joined by Harry.
Hello!
It's just the two of us today, so you're going to get shenanigans, and we're going to be discussing how the Muslim Council of Britain are electing their next Islamist, the media campaign against mass deportations over in America, and boomer degeneracy.
I have absolutely no idea what the third segment entails.
I think you could make some pretty firm guesses on what it entails.
Right, speaking of demoralizing failures by our elderly political class, at three o'clock today, it is Tomlinson Talks, live for those who are members on LotusEaters.com, and I'm going to be going over the grooming gang scandal, particularly the recent...
Discourse which is ignited internationally because Elon Musk's attention has been drawn to it.
I'm going to be plotting from which original posts it emanated from, the recent unfurlings and revelations about the cover-up and what Labour are trying to do, including they're trying to sneakily criminalise even talking about it with an Islamophobia blasphemy law which actively stipulates that grooming gangs themselves are Islamophobic.
I mean, I'm not that surprised that it's not...
It's not that sneaky when Keir Starmer did his whole media press tour with Sadiq Khan at one point and was like, we need to do more to fight Islamophobia and I'll use my experience as a prosecutor so you'll just make it illegal.
Even more illegal than it already is.
Anyway, speaking of Islam...
So, we're electing Britain's next top Islamist.
If you don't know what this is in reference to, this is the Muslim Council of Britain.
And we're going to do a detour to a story from the last year that flew under a lot of people's radar.
Because this report from an ostensibly named institution called the Centre for Media Monitoring alleged that places like GB News have...
And I quote, an excessive focus on Muslims bordering on an obsession.
Because apparently GB News reported on Islam within a year 1,180 times, and it was 60% of all news coverage compared to BBC News and Sky News relating to Islam.
Now in this report, they also included coverage of the grooming gangs, the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs in over 50 towns and cities across England and Wales, should be stipulated, as reports on Muslims.
Interesting conflation there.
They do call it so-called grooming gangs.
So they're obviously child abuse deniers.
Yeah, quite.
But the authors were white men.
It has this very neutral name.
And it doesn't stipulate that this Centre for Media Monitoring in this Guardian article is owned by something called the Muslim Council of Britain.
And I want to ask a question today.
Not why does the Muslim Council of Britain...
Why are they not a prescribed organisation like lots of other Islamist groups?
And I think that's a fair characterisation, given the candidates that Policy Exchange has found are running for their new Secretary-General.
And these are the chaps in the leadership election.
This is their report that you can go and read on Policy Exchange at the time.
I'm going to read some extracts from this.
I think I might be able to download the report, actually, and open it.
It should open in another tab, hopefully.
Here we go.
So this is by Andrew Gilligan.
The Muslim Council of Britain's relationship with wider societies already troubled, the report writes.
Governments of all stripes have refused to deal with it since 2009. Under the current Secretary-General, Zahra Mohammed, the Muslim Council of Britain sought to present an image of change and sought re-engagement with the government after they were banned.
Its claims of change were not accepted and it was not re-engaged with, either by the last Conservative or the present Labour government.
Now, that's not quite accurate.
Because if you go onto the Muslim Council of Britain's website...
The Muslim Council of Britain is responding to the government's Muslim Brotherhood review.
Now, I know what you're thinking.
Hang on a minute.
Muslim Brotherhood review?
What?
They're the prison gang, right?
No, they're the founders of Hamas.
Oh.
The Muslim Brotherhood prison gangs are in correspondence with the Muslim Brotherhood.
Oh, okay.
But they were the ones that came...
It's not even like a socialist league versus the League of Socialists.
They're literally just called the same thing.
Yes.
Oh, okay.
All right.
They're not inventive in the cousin marrying world, remember.
But the Muslim Brotherhood...
We're founded after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire to create a sort of pan-continental Islamic movement and they helped co-sponsor terrorism across the globe, they co-founded Hamas, they actively encouraged and supported October 7th and various other terror attacks that are infamous.
We're going to park that review to the side for a moment, because why would the Muslim Council of Britain need to respond to allegations about connections to the Muslim Brotherhood?
Good question, we'll get onto that in a bit.
But they say in this about their connections to the UK government, and I quote, It's simply untrue to state, as the findings do, and they say number 24 here from the report, that the government has had no substantive dialogue with the Muslim Council of Britain after relations were temporarily suspended in 2009. In fact,
relations resumed in late 2009 and early 2010. Islamophobia, by the way...
is a phrase invented by the Muslim Brotherhood, and linked to the Conservative Party, have consistently tried to discredit the Muslim Council of Britain to prevent an independent British Muslim organisation from engaging in the public space.
And, also, as of, this was 2023, so a year and a bit ago now, turns out the Ministry of Defence were using the Muslim Council of Britain to hire their imams as chaplains.
So we had an organisation that the government itself had cut ties in 2009, that said they might have links to the Muslim Brotherhood who founded Hamas.
Picking the imams for the army.
Yeah, not great.
A letter from the Ministry of Defence in 2021 said, The Ministry of Defence does have an arrangement to consult with the Muslim Council of Britain in the appointment of imams in the armed services.
The Muslim Council of Britain is one of many endorsing authorities used by the Ministry of Defence.
And a post on the council's website on the 26th of July 2023 boasted that the first imam to receive a commission in the Royal Air Force had been endorsed by the Muslim Council of Britain.
Since this Conservative MP by the name of Nick Timothy.
Who's been involved in getting data out about illegal immigration.
He's one of the Robert Jenrick hand-picked cohort.
He revealed that the Muslim Council of Britain have a charitable foundation.
A bit like, you know how Hope Not Hate do loads of political stuff and they've got the Hope Not Hate charitable foundation they funnel money through?
Yeah, three-quarters of their funding recently has been received from the government's Department of Work and Pensions.
So the government's just giving them their entire budget.
They're funding the people creating problems so that they have something to manage once the problems happen.
Quite.
Now, if you're thinking, okay, why were the Muslim Council of Britain banned in 2009 in the first place?
Well, I covered this a little while ago in an extensive report on Islamic entryism and activism in the Home Office and in the UK government.
The Muslim Council of Britain has been banned from engaging with Whitehall because its Deputy Director General, Dr. Dord Abdullah, signed something called the Istanbul Declaration in 2009. The declaration committed to, and I quote, carry on with the jihad and resistance against the occupier until the liberation of all of Palestine.
And was therefore interpreted as calling for attacks on the British Royal Navy by stating, quote, I think fought by all ways and means and jihad in the same declaration makes it...
Pretty clear that they're advocating for violence against the UK. But apparently they claim...
Well, these are always large international movements because they see themselves as one united people.
Yeah, the word would be umma, of course.
But don't worry, collective consciousness is not a real thing.
Everyone's just an atomised, free-floating individual who abides by British values and contributes to the economy.
The MCB claims it apparently never endorsed the declaration, despite its Deputy Director General writing in the declaration.
But there you go.
And they reject that...
This is, they endorse, an attack on the Royal Navy.
However, also under Abdullah, they led a six-year boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day, and on October the 8th, 2023, they said we need to end the violence in and around Gaza while failing to make any comment on October the 7th.
So, bit suspicious.
Yeah.
Robert Jemmerich actually reiterated the ban on any engagement across Whitehall in 2023 when he was Community Secretary.
It doesn't look like anyone paid attention.
So look, these aren't great people all round.
So this is the background for the Muslim Council of Britain overall.
Well, um...
Looking at the actual research from Policy Exchange, we can look at, okay, maybe their new leadership might represent a more moderate, a more, don't laugh, a more sensible direction.
Maybe this is just, we keep hearing...
I'm a well-humoured man, that's all, you know.
It's your northern cynicism in you, my friend.
We keep hearing about all the moderate Muslims that exist, right?
Pay no attention to the Henry Jackson Society polling that said three-quarters of them think Hamas did nothing wrong.
About 52% of them want the...
Drawings of the Prophet Muhammad to be illegal.
The high likelihood that entire communities of them were keeping Hush the grooming.
Oh, it's not just a likelihood, they admitted it.
I mean, they started fights at the grooming gang sentence hearing with the victims, and when their dads were sentenced, after they'd read out all the crimes of them raping children, they shouted, I love you, Dad.
A proud and honourable culture.
Absolutely, diversity is our strength.
But, okay, we keep hearing about all these moderate Muslims, which I'm sure exist.
Maybe they're going to be led this time around by the Muslim Council of Britain.
Well, the two candidates that are running for support, their names are Wajid Akhtar and Mohamed Adres.
So, let's go with Wajid Akhtar first, okay?
Prime British name.
He's a doctor from Essex.
From Essex.
Several of his articles have been deleted, but Policy Exchange has managed to crib this intellectual prowess from the Internet Archives.
He wrote in 2022, so not very recent at all, to be a Muslim today is an act of revolutionary defiance, standing at odds with the prevailing culture in many ways.
He advocates British Muslims identify primarily as Muslim rather than as British.
Assimilation at work.
In the same article, he wrote, most people teach their children to be their nationality or ethnicity thirst, but this gives such a limited and limiting view of yourself and others that this can lead children to be shallow.
It is literally how the evils of nationalism, racism and fascism are born.
Buzzwords.
Just buzzwords.
It's buzzword buckshot.
Pow!
Just throw out all the buzzwords to say that we should be in charge, we should have more power, please Gibbs.
Yeah, this is obvious a version.
The funny thing is that I always see with these types of people is that they always try and make it sound as though they are an invading force of fierce warriors, when in fact they're a bunch of scroungers begging for handouts from the government, and for some reason our government is always just more than happy to give them what they're asking for.
Keep that frame of being an invading force in mind.
Yeah, they're just beggars.
He actually thinks of himself as an invading force.
But anyway, getting on with his anti-racism.
I'm sure he's hope not hate indoors.
Choosing faith as a primary identity for your children and of course yourself allows a solid foundation upon which to approach the world.
Note that I say primary as opposed to only.
Teach them to be Muslim primarily.
Make your children realise they are heirs to an ancient and proud nation so they can hold their head up high.
The author here, Andrew, notes that the ancient and proud nation he's referring to is not British, of course.
course it's the umma global community of muslims founded in mecca and medina by muhammad akhtar then said celebrating new year's was the first step on a slippery slope by adopting the celebrations of others we are not harmlessly saying few words or just enjoying ourselves we are opening the door to disappearing within the dominant culture to a future which our children have muslim names but otherwise are indistinguishable from non-muslims in their habits customs and appearances But why'd they no integrate, though?
Oh, no, literally saying that integration is bad for us, don't do it.
Yes, so I've been reliably informed by Fraser Nelson in the Telegraph, in the article which sparked this entire grooming gang scandal going global, catching you on most attention, that Britain is an integration miracle because Mohamed Salah put up a Christmas tree.
And yet...
Muslim Council of Britain say we will not integrate.
Interesting.
Materialism does have many temptations involved in it that can attract basically anybody, but it can go only so far.
There's only so much of somebody's personal character and religious sentiment and feeling that they can get rid of by buying an iPad.
Yes, liberal secularism is not some ineluctable spell that will coax even the most indigestible tribal diaspora out of their barbarian ways, it turns out.
But they did pass through the passport gates of Heathrow and Gatwick And all were born on British soil Therefore, they're indistinguishable from you and me, Harry I guess I'll just pluck my eyeballs out then So I don't notice any differences Fair point, well done.
The New Year, he says, was a pagan event that Muslims should not take part in because it usually involves un-Islamic practices, such as mixed-gender events where people wear fashionable clothes.
Pretty big indictment of Muslim fashion, but there you go.
Dance and sing songs.
Yes.
They can dance and sing just like us.
There's a saying that's actually un-Islamic to dance and sing.
There we go.
It is necessarily an Islam-free zone, tell that to Sadiq Khan, not least because it has no basis or relationship to Islam.
And anyway, what is there to celebrate?
New Year's is a celebration that is completely cut off from the reality of the rest of the Ummah.
The starvation in Somalia, the murder in Syria, the imprisonment of Gaza, and the ethnic cleansing in Burma.
Literally, all of these are just foreign sectarian conflicts that have been made the prevailing political life in England because of mass immigration.
Thank you so much, our treacherous elites.
I really appreciate it.
I'm glad I have to report on and care about this.
Akta was a leading activist and spokesman for the Muslim vote as well.
So he helped to get the four pro-Gaza.
Just pro-Gaza, I'm sure.
MPs elected last July, including the chap Iqbal Muhammad, who was the one that was standing up and defending cousin marriage in Parliament.
I'm sure, just for familial and financial reasons.
Yeah.
They've also been supported, the Muslim vote, rather, and endorsed by a number of Islamist organisations, including MEND and the Muslim Association of Britain.
The Muslim Association of Britain will be brought up later.
MEND's former...
Would have been the sort of chap that Keir Starmer would have defended under the cab rank rule, I'm sure.
Ali then left Mend, joined an organisation called CAGE, who decided to...
speak out in support of Hamas after October 7th, who then gave a statement to The Telegraph alongside the Muslim Council of Britain that said they will bring legal action against Michael Gove when he flimsily tried to redefine extremism back in, what was it, May of last year, 2024?
Also, one of the Muslim votes key figures was pro-Palestinian activist Mohamed Jalal, a real name, Jalaluddin Patel, a former leader in the UK of the now-banned Islamist extremist group Hizb ut-Tahir.
Hizb ut-Tahir being...
Oh, I remember those ones.
They were the ones who were about to be prescribed in Germany when Keir Starmer, outside of actual cab rank rules, decided to represent them pro bono, I believe.
While he was director of public prosecutions, he wrote to the European Court of Human Rights, and they were about to be prescribed in the UK. By the Conservative Party.
And he said they have an important voice that needs to be heard.
They were the group, by the way, that stood outside the Turkish embassy after October 7th and said, Muslim armies rise up for jihad.
So it wasn't just in Israel, again.
So, we've never been to Israel.
I don't care about it more than I do Iceland.
They would do the exact same thing here, therefore ban and deport all of them.
But Keir Starmer didn't think that was a good idea.
Quite interesting, that.
In a speech at the East London Mosque in November 2023, Akhtar, the candidate, said, We need to become an organised community.
We need to become an Islamic community rather than just a community of people who happen to be Muslims.
We all want Saladin to come today, right?
as in the counter-crusading force.
Yeah.
But no one wants to be his father.
You will not get Saladin until you build the environment for Saladin, until you become his teacher, until you become his madrasa, his helper, his friend, and his ecosystem.
Build that, and Allah will send you Saladin after Saladin after Saladin until you don't know what to do with them.
Right, that sounds like a promise to use Dawah, which is like ideological indoctrination and extorting the generous free speech provisions of the liberal West in order to actually encourage the conditions which lead to Violent Jihad.
Why has this man not been arrested?
Curious that.
And this is an attitude that's shared by basically all of these people in our country.
there was that tweet going around from the other day where it was a that youtuber uh muhammad hijab whose name sounds like a name generator for a muslim name um who was saying that well even if we don't have any more people come into the country uh judging by birth rates by 2050 will be at least 10 of the population and then more and more and more until we eventually have a critical mass and can take over that's just how these people think but you're not allowed to notice that they have a
No, again, yet again, everyone's just integrating their...
We all vote along the lines of policy and not along the lines of identity.
Remember, you're a racist if you notice that, Harry.
But also, judging by rates of consanguinity, I think our women might even be able to fend off these particular barbarians.
Fair point, but we will also be made to pay for all of their escalating NHS treatment.
Yeah, that's true.
Of course, we can't be racist now, can we?
They're going to drain us financially first, that's a good point.
Yes.
The other candidate, because remember, there are two people running in this race, perhaps he's more moderate, is Mohamed Adriz.
Now, he's also a doctor, which is a curious pattern.
It seems like all of these doctors and lawyers and engineers we keep importing turn out to have sympathies with some very...
Questionable Islamic groups.
If it looks good on a spreadsheet, you can just ignore all of the second-order consequences.
Very true.
Do you know who else was a doctor?
Do you remember when the leader of Hizbut Tahir went on Piers Morgan's show?
His name was Abdul Waheed, and then Hizbut Tahir immediately got prescribed.
Curious, he was working in the NHS. There was another NHS doctor as well who went out to party with the Taliban.
And there was a doctor in Germany just in December who decided to launch a terror attack as well, or at least potentially a terror attack.
Weird that.
But don't worry, if they're contributing to the economy with high-skilled work, culture doesn't matter.
Well, that's the thing with the German guy as well, wasn't it?
Because it turned out when people started looking into his actual work ethic that he was a terrible doctor as well and couldn't really speak German properly.
So, even before the attack, what was he contributing to Germany other than being a name on a spreadsheet making a line go up somewhere?
Diversity is still our strength.
We are told to recite that, no matter the facts.
So, this doctor, Mohammed Adries, he leads the Muslim Council of Scotland, so he wants to expand his remit to all of Britain.
How charitable.
Now, this actually does appear to have relations with the UK government, because Rishi Sunak and Downing Street invited him to a reception at Downing Street in January 2023. So, it just turns out that if you're a sectarian Islamic ideologue, you get an audience for the Prime Minister.
How can I cash in on that?
Would be lovely.
Just to correct myself as well, I believe the German attacker, if I remember back to the details of that case, was not actually an Islamic terror attack.
He was a weird counter-Islam terror attack who decided to attack the German people anyway because he thought that they weren't doing enough to bring out...
Non-Islamic people, refugees from these countries where they're being persecuted.
He seems to have had some strange and contradictory opinions on this as well, so motives still to be defined.
However, it is curious how basically he reverts to type by using the exact same strategy as other Islamists, like in 2016 when a lorry was driven into a German Christmas market, to be counter-jihad, while the jihadists do the same thing.
Ultimately, the result is the same.
Yes.
They just shouldn't be here.
Simple as.
Just don't import people from dangerous countries.
Great idea, but again, that would be decreed as far right.
Racist, of course.
The Muslim Council of Scotland, under Andres, so these are the ones that have been given an invitation to Downing Street in 2023, also supported the Muslim vote.
So there's a Muslim vote being supported by Mende and Hizbut Tahir, and then supported by the Muslim Council of Scotland, who then get invited to Downing Street.
So there's just a connective tissue between Number 10 Downing Street, under the Conservative Party, remember, as well as Labour.
And Islamist groups.
Fantastic.
Really glad to hear.
And this makes the Conservatives complete morons for literally bringing in people who are campaigning against their own party into Downing Street, but that's nothing new.
Of course, Andrews was also involved in a campaign in 2021. Do you remember when the Muslims were protesting outside of Cineworlds because they were showing a film?
It was called The Lady of Heaven.
It was about Mohammed's daughter.
Yeah, he was...
One of the ringleaders involved in that.
And in 2017, he travelled to Iran as part of a delegation, meeting members of the Iranian regime, the grandson of Ayatollah Khomeini, praying at Khomeini's shrine and praising how they dealt with dissidents and apostates.
A death penalty is provided over there, by the way, in Iran.
So that's your choices if you are voting in the election.
So I wanted to propose why...
The Muslim Council of Britain itself isn't a prescribed group.
Because remember that Muslim Brotherhood review I mentioned towards the start that they responded to?
It could be a completely mendacious accusation.
Well, I did another report on this.
This is part of the...
Anti-extremism report by Dame Sara Khan, whose sister runs Raikou, gaslighting all of the families in the Manchester Arena attack with don't look back in anger phrases.
She used hope not hate to do her polling on that.
That came out at the same time as this Muslim Council of Britain report about GB News.
So I reviewed them both at the same time.
And in here, I found that 2015 report about the Muslim Council of Britain, and I'll quote from the UK government.
In the 1990s, the Muslim Brotherhood and their associates established public-facing and apparently national organisations in the UK to promote their views.
None were openly identified with the Muslim Brotherhood, and membership of the Muslim Brotherhood remains, and still remains, a secret.
But for some years, the Muslim Brotherhood shaped the New Islamic Society of Britain, the ISB, dominated the Muslim Association of Britain, which I previously mentioned, and played an important role in establishing and then running the Muslim Council of Britain.
Bear in mind, the group that founded Hamas also helped...
Ron, the Muslim Council of Britain.
So you're wondering why these are the candidates now.
And, as I mentioned earlier, which I'll finish on, the entire phrase Islamophobia, which their recent report was premised on, the Muslim Brotherhood actually invented that.
So any time the Running Me Trust in 1997 introduced it, or Piers Morgan on Twitter use it, they're doing the bidding of the Muslim Brotherhood.
And we know this from two people.
Dr. Jaius Keppel, and he had previously alleged that the Brotherhood devised the term to seek symmetry of anti-Semitism, which is why places like Hope Not Hate always use them in the same sentence, and link opposition to Islam with objectionable views that produced Nazism and the Holocaust.
And this was confirmed by a former Islamist, Abdur Rahman Muhammad, who said that he was at a meeting where members of the Muslim Brotherhood outfit, the International Institute for Islamic Thought, conspired to "emulate the homosexual activists who used the term homophobia to silence So any time that you hear claims of Islamophobia or anti-Muslim bigotry or systemic racism against Muslims from the likes of the Muslim Council of Britain, remember who...
They actually consider authorities on the topic.
Actual terrorists.
And we've got some rumble rants.
So, would you like to go through this?
Wonderful, yeah.
Cranky Texan for $5.
The left allying with Islamists is folly.
Islam is a stronger religion than socialism.
They will end up with sharia, not utopia.
Quite.
Renaud Camus said that you are any gay people, women, Jewish people, leftists who are allying themselves with Islam are soaring off the branches they are sitting on.
I think ultimately the reason that they do align with themselves is that the ultimate goal of socialism and Islam does line up in one specific way, which is the ultimate destruction of Western culture and civilisation.
And so the leftists, they recognise that goal, and then they think, well, once we've got that done, we can get our utopia, but they don't really know what they're messing with.
Two things on that.
One, Marx actually wrote an op-ed that said that...
Islam is an ally for revolutionary socialism because it's anti-Christian.
And Ayan Husi Ali has provided insight into this in basically saying the Muslim world and leftists both think of Christianity as the white man's religion, so they both hate Christianity because they hate white people, and so they ally as by proxy an attack on European civilization.
And historically it was European, even though now it's very prevalent in Africa and other places, but mainly due to colonialism.
Quite.
I don't know how to pronounce that Welsh name.
Thank you for the $50 anyway.
That's very, very generous.
I really do apologize.
Just for the sake of that, while you read it, I'm going to try and see if I can get a pronunciation.
Please do.
Severely depressed.
Well, I bet you are after my pronunciation.
But we need to know this.
Thanks, Connor and Harry.
Well, we hope we provide a public service.
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I think of all these people and the traders who brought them in.
Should all be deported to a desert island.
Their punishment is to live with one another.
Well, of course, you cannot.
Deport those who hold British citizenship.
But foreign criminals, you should of course deport.
And of course we should prescribe other criminal behaviours like consanguinity, cousin marriage, halal slaughter, and if you break the law, see step A. Okay, it's an Irish name.
Oh, blimey.
I had to pronounce the first part, but the second part is apparently pronounced Neve.
Okay, I apologise.
My Irish roots are clearly not as strong as Irishman thought.
At one dollar, from Ryan Hinnigan...
Policy proposal to solve all the worst problems inside of a year, death penalty for littering.
Well, that's basically the Singaporean model.
I mean, it's pretty extreme, but I won't deny that it would solve a few problems.
The problem is, we shouldn't have to resort to that because the high-trust environment of a homogenous England would have already enforced that through cultural means without needing the state to be super tyrannical.
Without needing to kill you for it.
There should be...
Armies of grandmothers walking the street, tutting at you every time you litter, and that would sort the problem out.
Karen's a civilizational force.
Final two.
Dragon Lady Chris.
New Year's is so un-Islamic, they celebrated by assaulting hundreds of women in Cologne on New Year's Eve a decade ago, as I recall.
Yes, but remember, Jess Phillips just said that's a night out in Birmingham, so she excused that one.
I mean...
I'm sorry.
Fuck her for saying that.
That is the most vile thing she's ever said, and she's said some pretty vile stuff.
She's one of the most evil...
Politicians alive, I think.
Actually, just a completely delusional narcissist.
You trying to steal the spotlight while the entire world is focused on the industrial-scale rape of British children and saying, woe is me, and I must say, horrible things about me on Twitter.
No, you're a pathological narcissist and you should shut up.
I'm sorry, maybe she's right.
Maybe it is a night out in Birmingham, but it's not because of Brummies.
It's because of the overlapping populations we're talking about.
Quite, yes.
One more.
Where's the mouse gone?
There it is.
The engaged few.
I don't know what that is, but the UK government should deal with the Muslim Brotherhood in the same way the Syrian government did, and he references a prison.
But lots of Islamic nations, including Saudi Arabia and the UAE, have banned the Muslim Brotherhood.
We haven't.
So...
Well, yeah, because those governments know that they're terrorist organisations.
We don't want you operating here.
You're trying to overthrow us.
Because our governments are like, come on in, boys.
Unfortunately so.
Do you want a hug?
Take it away, sir.
Alright, so Donald Trump's been promising mass deportations for a while.
He's had his border czar Tom Homan saying that, don't worry, we're not going to be separating families.
The children can go too.
And this has led to exactly what everybody was expecting, which was there would be a mass media scramble to try and present...
Any argument possible to say that mass deportations of illegal immigrants who shouldn't be in the country in the first place would be an utterly horrifying and terrible thing.
And it has been real scattershot with this.
So I thought I'd go through a little bit of that and then also talk about...
Some of Trump's recent statements on immigration and try and warn against what he is maybe suggesting because I think there's been some walking back of some of the statements that he's made and I think that you need to hold him accountable and say that no, people need to go.
If you've said these things, people need to go.
You don't want a repeat of the 1986 Ronald Reagan Immigration Act that granted amnesty for millions of people that only encouraged more people to come through.
So I'm going to be somewhat critical, but it's for the sake of trying to push America in the right direction when it comes to immigration, because it can have horrifying effects for any country.
Trust me, I would know I'm British.
But first, what are the arguments that are being presented for why you shouldn't deport people who should...
Well, obviously, the first one that you've got to address is the one that everybody knows is going to come up, which is the line-go-up argument, which is that if you do mass deportations, line-go-down.
Did they attach a number to the cost of this?
I remember when Homan was being interviewed by 60 Minutes, she said something like $80 billion drop in the US economy.
Bear in mind, illegal immigration cost Americans $150 billion in 2023, so that's nearly double.
These numbers don't matter because the numbers can't both exist at the same time, so therefore if one's a cost and one...
If both are a cost, then the one that's more beneficial for Democrat policies is the one you care about.
Oh, I do forget as well, of course, GDP takes into account government spending, so that means that it's going...
And the drop of that would be approximately 7.4% in the GDP. According to, drumroll please, the Democrats in the Congressional Joint Economic Committee, non-profit organisation.
Right, so bastions of fiscal restraint.
Do they happen to come up with the GDP per capita number, which is what actually matters, which means America would be...
No, it's not mentioned in this article.
Fascinating, man.
It's not mentioned in this article.
Although they do say that the US economy wouldn't grow at all, there would be severe economic fallout, and they also say that it would shrink the labour force, obviously, because agriculture and construction in particular are far too dependent on illegal workers in the country, and they might actually have to bump up wages or streamline their productive processes through automation if they wanted to.
To offset that labour cost.
Cost US-born workers their jobs?
Because apparently, you know, they would just get rid of all of these workers and then just go, well, we just can't hire anybody now.
If they're not illegal, then what's the point of hiring them?
And sadly, I do think that that is an attitude that a lot of business owners have, because I have seen a number of clips that were presented in the mainstream media leading up to the election, trying to dissuade people from voting for Trump, because some business owner, like a local business owner, who should actually care about his community and providing jobs for the local community, is like, well, I've hired a few illegals, and they work so much harder, and they don't ask for anywhere near as much money.
They basically are my slave.
You should, anyone who is listening, go for the work of Nate Hockman, America 2100. He's the chap who went down to Charleroi, the local town where loads of Haitians had been dropped off after Trump mentioned it at the debate.
And he found that there was a local plant where pretty much everyone had been laid off so that the entire plant could be rehired with a bunch of cheap illegal work.
So they're purposefully sacking Americans to hire slave labor and they're using the government's...
Biden administration's strange policies about allowing these refugees, economic migrants crossing the southern border, indefinitely entitled to being...
Able to remain in America.
They're just using that to get around actually paying people a living wage.
And the centre-left and some of the centre-right are perfectly okay with this, because...
Line go up.
Because line go up.
And ironically enough, it was Bernie Sanders who came out and said, actually, this is bad for American workers.
So, you know, stop clocks and all that.
And they also warned that it will risk igniting inflation, because the Democrats really care about that.
See, when we talk about how government spending adds to GDP, do you understand how much the GOP cost the American people in GDP? Which then increased inflation.
And also...
Details don't matter.
So the Democrats now care about all of the money printing and the suspension of usual business that happens during COVID lockdowns?
They pretend to when it's not going to be their government.
Tactical libertarianism, I forgot.
There it is.
So, okay, but this doesn't put me off because obviously all of these arguments are rubbish.
So what's the next one?
Well, if you don't care about your own country's economy...
Don't you care about Mexico's?
No.
Don't you care about Mexico's?
This article, in fact, from the Washington Post, is incredible.
Because listen to how much they just let slip for free, which destroys any sort of argument that, well, these people are a net economic benefit because they come, they earn money, and then they spend money in the local communities that they integrate to.
Because this says the exact opposite, because it's pointing out that this Mexican village...
Depends on remittances from relatives in the United States.
And again, they're not hiding it.
This was like a holy S moment reading this article because...
I mean, listen.
It talks about this village, focusing on this guy called Chavez, who was warning the town that Trump is coming with full force.
He looked around at the men he'd grown up with, suntanned workers in baseball caps, who'd returned from the United States for the holidays, because they've integrated so well and care about their new country.
Many were now legal US residents.
What a great idea that was.
But their neighbours and cousins weren't.
What will we do, he asked.
How will we react as a community?
Mexico is...
I was about to say India.
Do you know how much India gets a year?
Billions.
180 billion dollars.
That is larger than the GDP of Kenya.
Yep.
But they're only there so that they can increase the economy of America, obviously.
It's just vampiric.
Yeah, it carries on.
Trump often depicts immigrants who enter the United States illegally as criminals.
I mean, if they're doing it illegally, they...
By definition, are.
In Mexico, the view is decidedly different.
Who'd have guessed that, right?
True heroes who love their country, said President Claudia Scheinbaum on a Twitter post in November, celebrating yet another record year of remittances.
She a demented socialist.
Obviously.
Yeah.
Obviously.
But again, they celebrate America as a place that they can basically go, scrounge a load of money, and send it back home.
They're using you as a...
They're leeching off of you.
That's literally what they're celebrating in.
Have you not considered that they love American values?
They don't.
And reveal the Constitution and...
Clearly they don't.
But high-skilled labour and...
No, no, no.
There is American...
Low-skilled agricultural workers.
H1B. Don't get me started on the playing H1Bs.
Chavez, 62, is an example of the crucial role migration has played in social mobility.
He grew up in Francisco Villa in a two-bedroom house with a leaky roof sharing a bed with five siblings.
He put himself through college in Morelia, the state capital, but it became clear there was only one real road to get ahead.
At 26, he slipped over the border and started picking blackberries and strawberries in California.
So he's a criminal.
He slipped over, he broke into the country.
He broke into the country.
Today, he's a US citizen.
Why?
How?
Sorry, why?
With a landscaping business in the Chicago suburbs that employs 14, including his three US-born sons, and thanks to birthright citizenship, they are American citizens.
Tom's going to end that, thankfully.
Yes, hopefully, yes.
When he comes back to Francisco Villa, it's to a house with eight bedrooms, a spiral staircase, and a fireplace with a framed picture of the Virgin of Guadalupe.
So this guy breaks into your country...
Has the house that I want to live in.
Yeah.
Leeches gets given citizenship somehow, and then all, not for the sake of America, not for the sake of the American economy line going up, so for the sake of being able to have an eight-bedroom spiral staircase house in his hometown back in Mexico.
That's incredible!
And they just, they say this like you're supposed to feel bad for him.
Like, oh no, all of the illegals aren't going to be able to leech off of you.
No, good.
Good.
And then they carry on.
On a national level, the pipeline of migrant money has become a gusher.
Mexico talking about $63 billion in remittances.
In 2023. Central America itself receives less migrant cash, but is even more reliant on it.
In Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, and Nicaragua, remittances accounted for between 20 and 30% of national income.
In 2023, according to the Inter-American Development Bank.
Unlike Mexico, a major manufacturing country, they don't have an alternative economic growth strategy, said Manuel Orozco, director of the Migrations and Remittances Program at that.
Brilliant.
Well, that is fantastic.
I'm glad they don't have an alternative economic strategy.
So what we can do is we just ban remittances, so that means that they have to stop the entire fraud scheme.
It just ends.
Brilliant.
Thank you for pointing out the easy policy fix to this.
I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous that the Washington Post is trying to sell you, won't you feel bad for the people who are coming in, taking advantage of your country, stealing jobs from hard-working Americans, depressing wages?
Not so that they can spend it on local businesses and help out the local economy.
No, so they can send it home.
To a mansion.
To a mansion.
To an actual eight-bedroom spiral staircase mansion.
Good God.
But that's one article.
I'm not convinced.
I'm not convinced.
Well, Honduras says that they're going to end military cooperation with the US if they do mass deportations.
Okay.
Okay, don't care.
Okay, wow.
Okay, the Honduran military is really going to beat the US military, is it?
Well, they're going to end the cooperation.
Yeah, okay.
Put it this way.
They're no longer going to cooperate, right?
So, all military cooperation is backed up by the idea of force.
Specifically, superior force.
If the Americans wanted them to cooperate, they just forced them.
Well, yeah, they are the world hegemon at the moment.
So, good luck.
There's not much that you could do about that.
So, you know, maybe people reading the AP are going to go, oh no, our incredibly profitable Honduras agreements.
This is not going to work.
But then you get to the ones that are going to be really, really emotionally manipulative, which are the ones of, what if they show up at school?
Because what I've been expecting, and what a lot of people have been expecting, is if Trump goes ahead with this, the first thing you're going to get from the New York Times and the Washington Post, all the liberal newspapers, are going to be pictures of small children.
Being dragged out of their homes, crying.
Like, exactly like the Syrian kid who was face down the touchbeat.
You're not going to get the criminals being dragged out of apartment blocks that they've taken over.
You're not going to get the cartel being kicked out or just general gangs being kicked out.
No, you're going to get small child cries, abandon all borders.
That's the argument that they're going to make.
And they say about this, and again, this is another one of those articles, they're trying to make you feel bad, they're trying to manipulate your emotions, but just read the actual facts that they are presenting here, and ask yourself, is this good for the nation?
That the school system in America is so broken that they have a ridiculous number of illegal students...
In the school system, most of whom can't speak English, that cause chaos in the schools.
Not even necessarily because they're badly behaved, more because of the fact that you can't teach these students.
Most of them haven't gone to school before, most of them can't speak English, so it costs more, costs more time, and ultimately is pointless.
Ultimately, all of this is pointless.
So they say, with with promises to deport millions of them
The district has shared with the school staff a protocol to try to shield them, those who have tenuous legal status.
In a December letter to principals, Emma Vedhera, the district's chief operating officer, wrote, Excellent name there, Project Rousseau, a non-profit that provides legal services to immigrants.
So they already have plans in place and an enormous network of people to try to make sure, if you have illegal students in your school, that nothing can be done about it.
I feel like coining Conor's Law, where if you go looking for it, you will find the blank slate.
Literally called themselves Project Rousseau.
I read that and I was like, oh, come on, am I being pranked here?
Am I being schooled?
No.
Public schools serving clusters of migrant children have already dealt with a dizzying set of challenges in recent years, as an influx of hundreds of thousands of migrants cross the southern border.
Some are educating students who speak indigenous languages, not foreign languages now, indigenous languages.
Indigenous to what?
Foreign countries.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Spanish is not indigenous to the Americas.
Are they...
Are they serious?
It basically means non-white language.
If it's not English, then it's indigenous.
The wasps and black Americans are a founding stock to the American project, therefore they're the indigenous ones.
So, cry about it.
No, you can't have a nation.
Yeah.
You can't have a nation.
Sorry, there is a child crying.
Sorry, sorry.
Borders are racist.
The Germans were mean in the mid-century, so you're not allowed a nation anymore.
Fair point.
But they've never before been enrolled in formal education, a lot of these students.
Others are trying to prod teenagers to class when they may face intense pressure to earn money, and many have assisted newly arrived families with finding shelter, food, and winter clothes.
In Chicago, they've enrolled as many as 17,000 recent immigrant students.
Issues related to the influx have become a factor in an ongoing contract negotiations between the teachers union and the public school system Why would you want any of this?
Why would you want to protect any of this?
This system is broken.
I heard something in there.
They just they just hid it.
Prod children to attend school who would otherwise be facing severe pressure to earn money.
Yeah.
So the parents have brought them into the country illegally to act as child slave labour?
Am I hearing that right?
That could be what is taken from that sentence, yes.
And...
The American government are just happy with this, are they?
The Biden certainly was.
Makes sense.
You're supposed to...
You're not racist, are you, Connor?
No, fair point.
Okay, good, good.
To the minds, they go.
Yeah, yeah.
And the district, it says as well, in Chicago, struggling to maintain staffing amid a budget deficit, so 17,000 new students, most of whom can't speak English.
I mean, that's obviously going to help.
But because of the many needs of recent immigrant students, they need more investments for smaller class sizes and more bilingual teaching assistants and social workers, according to Rebecca Martinez, a campaign director for the Chicago Teachers' Union.
Oh, the Teachers' Union, who are incredibly corrupt, keep strong-arging larger budgets for the public school sector, despite worsening outcomes, of course it is.
Yeah, obviously the Teachers' Union's solution is not, well, we need to solve this problem, isn't it?
It's we need more money.
We need more money.
I need to be paid more for this.
And to be fair, if you're an honest teacher actually trying to teach people because you have a passion for educating children, then, yeah, if you were put into this situation outside of your own control and didn't want it to be that, maybe you should get paid a bit more.
But if you're part of a teacher's union that are encouraging this, then screw you.
Screw you.
And the last one of these manipulative articles was another New York Times one where it was saying the alienation of Jamie Cachua, a man whose father-in-law was a MAGA Republican who voted and now is worrying about maybe being deported.
How long has he been in the country?
A good few years.
He's 33 and hasn't seen his own father since he was 10 months old when he left Mexico in a car seat bound for the United States.
So what he is, he's a dreamer.
He's a DACA kid.
Right.
So he's had 30-odd years, sorry, 20-odd years to apply for citizenship.
No, no, potentially 33 years.
I mean, obviously, other people could have done that on behalf of him when he was younger, but still, carry on.
So he just, he hasn't, and now his father-in-law, who wanted cheaper groceries and the rule of law, and didn't want his country overrun by cartel members, is to blame for his moral failings, is it?
Just getting this right from the new radical.
Well, you know, you can feel sad for these kinds of people.
I actually don't.
But, of course, he has right now a temporary work permit because of the DACA at the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which protects some immigrants who arrived in the country as children from being deported.
And, again, this guy...
You know, he doesn't seem like a bad guy.
Sure.
Why didn't he seek legal citizenship?
I don't know.
I don't know.
He works for...
I think he runs a local business.
He's married to an American woman.
They've got children together.
So this is going to be the prime candidate for when mass deportations start happening.
If people like this guy end up getting caught in the net, this is the guy that you're going to hear about.
More than anything, because I don't know if it mentions in here either if he's sending any remittances back home.
So this is the most sympathetic example that you can find in something like this.
Because to be fair, yeah, DACA, he didn't know what was going on when he was 10 months old.
He was brought into the country.
He had no agency over any of this.
But the thing is, with DACA, Trump's actually not really looking to deport any of them.
Which is something that I think ultimately might be a mistake.
Because mass amnesty being granted is always something that causes problems.
It just incentivizes more people to bring their kids over with the knowledge that even if they get me, I can use my kids as an anchor.
Because if they get DACA, if they get anything else like that, then I'll be able to just latch on to them.
And they can sponsor me to come in for a visa.
Exactly.
So I just took this video that came out, if I just double-check here, four weeks ago, where he was saying that DACA recipients, he wants them to be able to remain in the US, and I highlighted a few of the clips from this, two of them, that I thought were the most important.
One was his remarks on the DACA themselves, two was his remarks on his approach to legal immigration when his new administration comes in, both of which I have issues with, both of which I think people should be wary of and try to encourage Trump to take an opposite approach here.
So here's the clip, I'll just play here.
What about dreamers, sir?
Dreamers who were brought to this country illegally as children.
You said once back in 2017, they quote, shouldn't be very worried about being deported.
Should they be worried now?
The dreamers are going to come later.
And we have to do something about the Dreamers, because these are people that have been brought here at a very young age, and many of these are middle-aged people now.
They don't even speak the language of their country.
And yes, we're going to do something about the Dreamers.
What does that mean?
What are you going to do?
I will work with the Democrats on a plan, and if we can come up with a plan, but the Democrats have made it very, very difficult to do anything.
Republicans are very open to the Dreamers.
The Dreamers, we're talking many years ago, they were brought into this country.
Many years ago.
Some of them are no longer young people.
And in many cases, they become successful.
They have great jobs.
In some cases, they have small businesses.
In some cases, they might have large businesses.
And we're going to have to do something with them.
You want them to be able to stay.
That's what you're saying?
I do.
I want to be able to work something out.
People that have been treated very unfairly are the people that have been online for 10 years to come into the country.
And we're going to make it very easy for people to come in in terms of they have to pass the test.
They have to be able to tell you what the Statue of Liberty is.
They have to tell you a little bit about our country.
They have to love our country.
So, the two things that concern me there is the potential for a mass amnesty for these people, because especially if you're working with the Democrats, the Democrats are not going to want it to stop at the DACA. Well, because they're beholden to anti-white ethnic lobbying groups who help fund a lot of their elections, and...
They have a perverse incentive, as John Fettman himself said on Joe Rogan, to provide amnesty to all of the illegals so they can create a clientele constituency block that shores up states to be permanently blue like California.
Yeah, and Chuck Schumer himself, I've got it up here and not on the links, but Chuck Schumer has said...
That he wants to help the Dakers get legal citizenship, but then went on to say as well, open up a path to citizenship for all 11 million, or however many undocumented there are, in the United States at the moment.
So if you decide to take this route with the Democrats, it won't stop at the, if I get the figures up here, I think the amount eligible for DACA in the US right now is a little over 1,160,000.
And that includes the people who are currently taking DACA recipients as well right now.
So it wouldn't just stop there.
You'd have 10 million plus.
On top of that, to deal with.
And again, all that means is that one, you potentially open up pathways for these people to keep getting citizenship if they keep coming in, if you're working with Democrats.
And two, either way, it presents an incentive for more people to keep flooding through the border.
And the second thing there, with regards to legal immigration, is part of the point of MAGA, as far as I could tell, back in 2016, was to shut down the border somewhat to make sure that you protect American jobs from being offshored the way that they had been, so that you can basically stick up for the white working class that had been abandoned by the American establishment.
If you turn around now and say, we're going to make it easier than ever for huge numbers of people who are skilled, and there are many myths to do with so-called skilled immigrants coming into the US, particularly on H-1Bs, then what you're essentially doing is betraying the promise that you made to your constituents.
Best effort to try and turn this into a positive is that Trump himself has been incredibly contradictory over the years on most of the things that he has said regarding immigration.
For instance, somebody like Patrick Casey was pointing out that back in 2016, before he was elected, he was saying similar things regarding legal immigration, still brought the overall numbers down throughout his term, and regarding the Dreamers, he's been really contradictory.
Can I... Put two things in there.
Stephen Miller is in charge of Border Control, as well as Tom Homan, who helped set immigration policy in the first Trump administration.
He was the one that basically brought H-1B to a halt as of 2020. So Stephen Miller is setting the agenda, so we have reason to have some confidence despite Trump sounding squishy.
He might be talking soft and walking hard, if that makes sense.
And then the other thing that I wanted to pick up on, I'll go one step further than the economics, which I know you'll agree with, because...
As Eric Kaufman often writes in Whiteshift, economic concerns often are a way of coaching in acceptable parlance cultural concerns about immigration in a way that won't get you called racist.
So, yes, we can talk about economics, but a lot of the reason MAGA voted for Trump both last time and in 2020 and in 2024...
Is because they didn't want to see their country subjected to a transient population churn because they don't see their country as an economic zone or a sports team or a corporation.
They see it as a home.
And so if your home has the inability to lock the door or has a large volume of strangers moving in and out, rearranging the furniture, and the homeowners cannot evict those unwelcome houseguests, then is it really their home anymore?
And if Trump thinks that being an American...
As Vivek Ramaswamy did, by trying to apply citizenship tests for voting, is just reciting the poem on the bottom of the Statue of Liberty, itself a representative of the positives of mass immigration from Ellis Island, then that's a...
Also, not something that was part of the US Constitution, came 100 years after, and was an Eastern European immigrant advocating for more Eastern Europeans to come into the country.
Quite.
You can be an American who has traced their...
their...
There are still plenty of them.
Yes, and not know the inscription written on the Plymouth of the Statue of Liberty.
And you are far more American than someone living in Honduras who can recite all of the articles of the Constitution by memory.
Because it is simply the fact that America is not set up ideals.
As J.D. Vance said, it is a people with a history and a heritage and a distinct lineage.
And those people should have a say over who is allowed into their home.
Yeah, I absolutely agree, because I do worry somewhat with people like this AI policy advisor, Sririam, who is basically an...
An Indian advocate wanting more Indians to come into the nation.
Alongside Ramaswamy, who's been very, very in favour of H1B. And then Musk as well, a few weeks ago with his H1B meltdown thing.
I worry, but at the same time with what you're saying about Stephen Miller, and then he's got Vance as well by his side.
I'm hoping that this all turns out to be talk.
Because, again, he's been very contradictory.
To go through a little bit of this article, during his first presidency, he tried to destroy DACA. And was only stopped by the Supreme Court.
And he said he was going to unwind it.
He said his duty was to protect the American people and the Constitution.
At the same time, I don't want to punish children, but we must recognize that we're a nation of opportunity because we're a nation of law, so we need to stick by our laws.
Then he turns around and says, Congress, get ready to do your job.
And then later on he tweeted saying that there's going to be no deal for DACA, anything like that.
So he's very, very contradictory with this.
So I'm hoping that this again just turns into another one of his many contradictory statements.
Because I mentioned Chuck Schumer, guess who popped his head up after Trump said these things?
Was Chuck Schumer saying that we'd love...
We'd love to do that!
Of course you would.
And the general rule that I stick by is that if it makes Chuck Schumer happy, it should make you worried.
And I think that's fair.
Because again, if we go back to the 1980s, Ronald Reagan had his Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, which offered mass amnesty to approximately 2.7 million people, got permanent residents in the US who were undocumented illegal immigrants into the country, and at the same time had a promise of stronger borders.
Guess which part of that didn't happen?
So we don't want a repeat of this, and we want Trump to be able to hold himself up to his word that he is going to make stronger borders, improve the American economy, without swamping the foundational Americans who are the ones who built it in the first place.
Very well said.
We've got two new Rumble rants.
Misery Arse for $5.
Is that your ran on, Harry?
Cheers, mate!
You have ample reason to be, don't worry.
The UK must deport the idiots causing chaos every weekend.
That really doesn't narrow it down, but yes.
I mean, I'm in favour of deporting Liverpool.
I'm not going to say no.
This is what I want to get back to, right?
Regional ethnic conflict.
Us versus the Welsh was fun.
Why can't it be Liverpool versus Manchester anymore?
That was fine.
If it was the Beatles versus Oasis, you know, there you go.
That's integration at work.
And Thrashpandas, good name.
Aoi in Irish Gaelic, sounds like E, so...
The name Ao is Ao.
Yes, and then same applies to Saoirse.
Yeah, I know that one.
Excellent work, Chaxas, aside from the Irish, and looking forward to Tomlinson Talks.
Thank you very much, sir, appreciate it.
I had a friend back in secondary school whose name was the Irish name Siobhan, but she didn't pronounce it the Irish way, so everybody just called her Sobian.
laughing you And I don't think I don't know if she knew her name was Irish or if she just decided I don't like Siobhan call me so but it was such a stupid name Anyway, so let's move on to the last segment here, which is going to be talking about boomers.
Now, there is a bit of boomer bashing on the podcast, and just to assure our audience, yeah, hashtag not all boomers.
There are plenty of good boomers out there.
Some, I assume, are good people.
Yeah, some, I assume, are good people.
I know that there's some boomers watching right now, and we thank you for your support and your continued love.
We love you too.
But, as a generation, boomers have a particular reputation.
which sadly they keep living up to because their reputation is that of the hedonists who never learned to take responsibility passed over all responsibilities and handed what was a In many cases, beautiful, well-kept, historic nations of the past handed them over as desiccated husks.
We are all Nicholas 30 Ons, essentially.
Yes, yes we are, but I'm hoping the cruises are worth it.
And this article came out from The Economist that I thought we'd just like to take a quick look at, called Why People Over the Age of 55 Are the New Problem Generation.
Now, this will also include a number of older Gen Xers.
So Gen X... You're not off the hook either, you lazy bastards.
You said that like Hulk Hogan.
Did I really?
I'm coming through you, brother.
I'm gonna give you that strapation, brother.
Anyway.
Look up Hulk Hogan's strapation promos.
There's something to behold.
Anyway, so this article is talking about these...
Particular generational trends that this cohort of over-55s have developed into.
And it starts off by talking about a retirement community.
And they say that, you know, normally you think of a retirement community and you think to yourself it's going to be easy chairs, overcooked food, endless daytime TV. Not really the case anymore.
Because this is Latitude Margaritaville.
A community being built near Hilton Head Island in Southern California.
Sorry, South Carolina, which is hosting toga parties.
It was a live band.
It was a riot.
Barbie, another of the community's ambassadors, which is a resident employed by the developers to sell it to potential newcomers, compares living there to starting college all over again.
There are, she says, drinks on the driveway, cocktails on the concrete.
I feel like this might be a slightly skewed sample size.
However, I will say...
Well, this is what it's starting off with.
Don't worry, it will go on to give some more broad...
Have you noticed, so I've given up drinking in the last year.
Oh, I've.
I know, but there's lots of...
Given the news stories, I don't blame you.
Sometimes I wish I did.
There's a large cohort of our generation who do not drink.
I've noticed that our parents' generation, and especially our grandparents' generation...
Drink habitually during the week in the evenings.
It's a sort of wine o'clock meme of women in their 40s and 50s.
I don't think that's necessarily a terrible thing.
I mean, being the lonely cat lady with a wine addiction, that's its own thing.
I think enjoying a glass here and there throughout the week can actually be beneficial for your health.
But not a glass here and there throughout the week.
They will drink habitually in the evenings.
I mean, if you're having a bottle of wine every single night, and I've known middle-aged women to do that.
We know lots of people.
So there is something about...
There's a kind of latent hedonism baked into this generation.
And I think it's partially because generations are a very 20th century product.
Like, we normally define splits by wars or epochal events.
But generations in the 20th century were defined by technological innovations and then the adaptation to technological innovations.
Like, the boomer generation are defined by the birth control pill that ended up liberating...
liberating...
women to go...
And easy credit.
Quite.
And work on parity with men, it enabled abortion, and so this meant that the modus operandi of the generation was...
Individual autonomy and consumption.
And so this is why lots of them still feel entitled to pension systems that they were promised would pay off at the end of their working lives that they themselves haven't paid into, and they imported infinity immigrants in order to keep propping up the pyramid scheme.
So this entitlement mentality and this consumption mentality intimately linked because of the technologies which came to define the boomer generation.
Yes, and there's a lot of talk in this on the generational differences, particularly young people now, maybe going between the ages of 18 to 35 in particular.
And on the talk of...
You know, these people who are basically high-functioning alcoholics indulging every single night of the week versus the younger generations who abstain from that altogether.
Personally, I'm going to say there's some hilarity and some sadness in both of these because I think that there is a golden mean that you can actually take things in moderation.
not that I would ever advocate some of the things that these old people are doing but you can have things in moderation without abstaining from them completely and still live a good and responsible life so it's a shame to me that it seems that the bad example that's been set by some of the older generations has put off along with other factors like economic considerations lack of access to the dating market etc
the internet itself just encouraging you to stay at home access to the internet which is meant that younger people aren't having fun as much as they should be because really you should have some more fun and you don't be a complete degenerate don't just Just waste your younger years.
Those are the years that you should be building up the future that you have ahead of you.
But at the same time, you can take a weekend to have a bit of a drink and have some fun with mates.
That's part of the fun of being alive.
And dare I say, part of the glorious European tradition.
We have a drinking culture in Europe for a goddamn reason.
I saw recently a Harvard...
Study that showed that Northwest Europeans actually benefit from somewhat mid-level alcohol consumption throughout a week, maybe three or four drinks per week.
As opposed to a lot of other populations across the world which don't.
They actually have negative effects from it.
We can have positive effects, and I think that's probably due to the fact that we've just been drinking for a very long time.
Same with milk.
This is basically the Catholic position, that you can take some time off to spend with family, you can indulge in small vices in moderation, but...
I am a massive hypocrite here and I'm probably closer to the US because I don't drink and I work all the bloody times.
You are welcome to shame me, Harry.
I'm not going to shame you for, you know, doing what comes naturally to you.
But anyway, I'll carry on with this.
So it carries on.
It says, if Margaritaville's residents are representative of their age cohort, there will be a lot more to toga parties than fancy dress, whereas young people in rich countries these days are addicted to their phones, more anxious than previous generations.
So it's talking about the sort of stuff that we just said.
Their grandparents belong to a generation that experimented with sex, drugs, and rock and roll, and as they reach older age, they're not giving up their old habits.
Among those for whom times we get...
I'm not going to say that because it's just...
Among old people who are going to die, drug and alcohol use has surged.
Since many have long since struck coyness from the statute books, sexually transmitted diseases are also spreading among the over 55s.
The prevalence of gonorrhea Among Americans aged 55 and up has increased by more than six times.
Since 2010. Today, older adults are much more likely to participate in hookup culture of casual encounters and sex, which might be further encouraged by the availability of drugs for sexual dysfunction.
So, boomers we all know en masse took the blue pill, but they're also taking other blue pills to help with this.
They've totally absconded their duty to act as village elders and custodians of the culture.
Yeah, I mean, even in the past if you were maybe old and childless, you still had a responsibility to the local community.
These guys are just, nah, get shit-faced and get laid, boy.
There have always been structured roles of civilizational fatherliness or motherliness for childless people.
This is why the Catholic Church has priests and nuns.
But this no longer understands the benefit of children or the obligation you have as a civilization if you don't have children.
Instead, just defining yourself as an atomistic consumer...
Is the best possible thing for you to have.
And if you can no longer consume to your heart's content, well, euthanasia's on the way in the UK. Well, yeah, I suppose if you've got, if you're gonorrhea's flaring up, maybe you're not getting it like you used to.
You're 70 years old, well, Keir Starmer's got a solution for you.
Hello, Lotus Eaters, out of context.
Yeah, the commonality of living in retirement communities and the increased use of dating apps for seniors is pushing this along, according to Janie Steckenreiter in a paper in the Lancet.
Unfortunately named.
Yeah, that's an unfortunate one.
But yeah, I have, I have heard that in some retirement communities, man.
It's gross.
Similar increases are evident elsewhere.
Though in the four years to 2023 the number of new syphilis infections among young adults in England fell slightly, cases in those over the age of 65, not 55, 65, Grew by 31%.
VNN, so it saves lives, according to The Economist.
Thankfully, that doesn't apply to HIV, but syphilis...
No, HIV is up.
HIV is massively up, but it's up because of Africans.
It's literally the majority of new cases are from before they enter the country.
Michael Gove's looking at these lines going up, and he's like, yes, this is what we were going for.
This is what the Conservatives were about.
14 years has resulted in battery-farming AIDS patients.
Makes perfect sense to me.
And along with those new AIDS patients, as you can imagine, a lot of old people suddenly coming down with a hasty case of syphilis doesn't do well for the health services.
They say the oldest strained public services wreak havoc on national politics and blah blah blah.
Elderly revelers are numerous.
The number of people over 65 is growing across the rich world.
It goes on to say why some of them are so reckless.
It also says...
Strangely, that a lot of them are getting arrested for stupid behaviour as well.
Let me see.
Let me see if I can find this.
Because a lot of them are taking drugs.
In England and Wales, deaths of people over 50 made up more than a third of all drug misuse deaths in 2022, up from just 13% two decades before.
It says, well, some of this are old heroin addicts, but...
Also, deaths caused by cocaine are now more numerous in the old than among the young.
No fewer than 38 people over the age of 50 died from ODing on ecstasy as well, which is mainly for, as it points out here, teenage ravers in the four years of 2022. What are people over 50 doing taking ecstasy?
Really lively round of bingo.
So we are basically...
Paying exponential amounts for the NHS, for which we're importing Nigerian nurses, and then also importing Albanians to be drug dealers, so that over 65 can goon and take...
Get it on.
I have bottomless contempt.
Isn't modernity wonderful?
And they carry on and say, Infection and early death are only some of the more obvious problems.
A minority of the reckless older causing more direct mischief for themselves.
They make up a growing proportion of people arrested and convicted of crimes.
It's well known that America's prisons are increasingly full of older inmates.
What's less well understood is that it is not entirely due to inmates aging on the inside.
Older people make up a larger share of newly convicted criminals these days too.
From 1992 to 2022. So, at the exact time when testosterone is decreasing, therefore violence would decrease, cultural factors and doubtless increasing diversity are causing that number to go up.
Yeah.
We are failing as a civilization.
Yeah, and sadly, a lot of that does have to be put down to the, as you say, complete abdication of responsibility from some of the older generations.
Again, not just boomers.
Being a boomer does not necessarily mean that you're old.
It's a mindset.
There can be young boomers, old boomers, and Gen X are falling into this as well if you're 55. I see you in the chat engaged for you.
Keep Gen X's name out of your mouth.
If you can find the energy to get off your sofa and come make me, maybe.
Problems and the differences between the younger and the older generations.
And again, I think this is where it's a little bit sadder for the younger generations who are looking at the terrible example of the older people around them and saying, I don't want that.
Which is fair, but at the same time...
If you're young, you should be taking advantage of the opportunities that are presented to you as long as you're doing it in moderation and not being an idiot ruining your life, etc.
So they say, They
haven't seen that VB longneck vine from back in the day, have they?
Well, I mean, I'm happy to introduce people to it.
Such has been the shift that older Australians are now more likely to drink at dangerous levels than people in general.
In France, alcohol consumption has dipped among all groups in recent years, but it's the young who are forsaking it the most.
There has been a loss, and this is the most French thing I've ever read, of wine transmission within families.
According to Bernard Fages, the head of France's wine producers industry group.
Of course he's going to say something like that, but at the same time, right, again, it's part of European tradition that we're kind of, we like a drink.
And in France in particular, it's part of the tradition that they're more open to a little bit of wine when you're younger.
It was Christ's first miracle, after all.
Exactly, it makes perfect sense.
And so if there's a loss of that, especially the transmission within the families, outside of just the surface-level reading of, well, younger people are drinking less, this is, again, another indication of the breakdown of those family ties that keep people together, because the whole point of the family ties is, yes, you have the family.
You protect one another, you look after one another, but also you transmit these shared cultural practices down the generations in a way that's very healthy and keeps people tethered to their native culture and proud of it.
And so this is just another indication of the breakdown of that, and sadly it does have to be put to the older generations who forsook their responsibility to actually...
Take care of that.
Well, they not only didn't pass it down the civilizational chain by having higher rates of divorce, particularly with no-fault divorce in America, but it can be as simple as not eating together at mealtimes, therefore there's no shared familial culture.
So if you just sit in front of the television and you're all watching the hypnotic box, then there's no conversation, there's no transmission of values or appreciation of heritage, and the civilizational chain breaks at the last link.
Yeah, and I think that's my main takeaway from this, which is it's just another...
Sign that we're not as close to one another as we used to be.
We're not as caring about our own traditions and culture as we used to be.
And this is all quite sad, even if the idea of nursing homes being wildfire super spreader events for STDs is on the surface quite funny.
So there's some information that I got from this that I thought was relevant and interesting.
I hope you got something out of it.
Be careful, folks.
Thanks, Dad.
Ask.
Ask.
Check.
Check before you dive in there, youngster.
Look both ways before you cross the street.
Yeah, there you go.
Anyway.
That's what I was talking about.
We've got any video comments?
We've got some more rumble raps.
Yes, we do.
Just while Samsung's loading them up.
That's a random name.
Missed my previous super chat.
I don't know if we got it.
Also, why wear a tie if it's hiding, Connor?
Because this is quite an ostentatious tie, and because it's jumper season, it basically acts like a little pocket square.
It's like a cameo, so you can only wear them if they're subtle.
I've got loads of them, like little bird ones.
Also, if you have your top button done up without a tie, it looks a bit silly.
Oh, I always wear ties, but I imagine if I didn't have this jumper and the tie was just there, I'd look like I'm wearing a Weatherspoons carpet.
On the Monday roundtable, I decided to put a jumper on over my shirt and tie and got accused of looking like an altar boy.
I think that might have just been the shaving, actually.
There we go.
De-aged you.
The engaged few.
You've already read that one about the keep the Gen X's name out of your mouth.
There we go.
Thanks for $5, though.
Skittenhund.
In psychology class, we learned about the life stages of Ericsson.
Each stage is basically...
Thrive via self-harm.
Boomers need to...
Boomers seem to never be able to take the path of thriving.
I'm not really sure what that refers to.
I don't have the frame of reference, I'm afraid.
I don't know about the life sages of Ericsson either, but I'm sure Josh will probably know something about it.
Quite.
That's a random name.
Boomers are the reason why I've grown up believing in the following adage.
Everyone grows old, but not everyone grows up.
Quite.
That in itself is a boomer Facebook meme that I've seen posted many times.
Were minions beneath it by any chance?
Once or twice, actually.
That doesn't shock me.
Norim...
Itore?
Okay.
Speaking of declining consumption of alcohol, hear about the incoming mandatory cancer warning labels on alcohol in the US. I don't think that's going to do much, frankly.
Listen, listen.
The American revolutionaries were probably a little bit drunk when they were coming up with their plans, because it was all planned in pubs, right?
I've been to it, yeah.
Yeah.
They're doing it because they want to make you weak.
Alcohol made Europe strong.
Unironically.
Pretty accurate, actually.
The binary surfer, knowing someone who works in residential assisted living facility, they have walked in several times on what is basically a geriatric F-fest.
Many vials of Viagra, etc.
I'm sorry to read that to everybody.
That is disgusting, but speaks to what I was talking about there.
What is wrong?
What is wrong with these people?
You should be carving wooden birds or something.
You should be spending time with your grandkids.
That's what you should be doing.
Wesley for $5.
This show always makes me want to drink, but especially so today.
Well, glad I could help.
Yes, quite.
Anyway, on with the video comments.
Yesterday's episode reminded me of the film Hang Em High, wherein Clint Eastwood, playing a frontier deputy, encounters a number of criminals guilty of capital offences whose cases range from sympathetic to hardened monsters.
It would be an interesting topic of debate amongst the Lotus Eaters.
Interestingly, even the worst of them were not depicted as child rapists.
Build a gallows.
There is large, widespread public support for the death penalty.
There used to be an annual debate in Parliament about bringing it back, and then all of the MPs so consistently voted against it for so long that it was scrapped.
Wasn't it Blair that scrapped it?
I don't remember the exact year, I'm afraid.
I think it might have been Blair.
It's either Blair or Cameron.
Or Brown.
I don't know, I feel like Brown wouldn't have cared enough.
Brown did some really dark shit.
Oh yeah, true, true.
I guess he just seems more unassuming because he's Scottish.
Is that Tony D? That is Tony D. Also, is that cartoon picture farting?
As well as trying to get Tony D to say pineapple on pizza, I enjoy pitching ridiculous movie ideas in his weekly podcast.
I'm quite proud of my most recent novelty, which is to adapt The Handmaid's Tale with the transgender cast.
They can be sent to a reproduction camp where, slowly but surely, they realise the absurdity of their situation.
We may include a subplot by adapting the maid from Handmaid to reference medical assistance in dying legislation that, I have no doubt, Atwood approves of in Canada.
Well, the ironic thing about The Handmaid's Tale is that originally it was based on Margaret Atwood's 1978 holiday to Afghanistan.
So it was about Islam.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you told me that before, actually.
Conveniently retrofitted in 2016 to be about the Trump administration and then made mandatory at A-level for UK literature students.
She's a feminist shit-lib.
It was always going to end up being retrofitted to that, wasn't it?
It's also written appallingly.
I've never wanted to read it.
Book club!
No, don't make me read that.
No, I don't want to read Margaret Atwood's loosely camouflaged fetish material, okay?
It's not loose.
Though she might be.
It is these days.
Anyway, Sophie, take it away.
I hope everybody had a good start to the new year so far.
And I started with my new year's resolution already a month ago and has been doing daily sketches, trying to learn how to draw.
And so far, so good.
I'll see if I can pull a PewDiePie and come back to you in nine months and see how far I've gotten.
Oh, it's Josh.
It's Beau, actually.
Oh, yeah.
Once he's shaved.
Fair point.
They look great.
Although, the early ones you showed me that looked like you were trying to do some, like, Viking caveman, I was like, why is she drawing me?
I think she might have been, actually.
Okay, you know, fair play.
I'm waiting on the Lotus Eaters flipbook.
Yeah.
It's like in Hot Fuzz.
I'd be playing guitar, obviously.
That does look like Wolfman U. It does actually look like me.
He's got a little tie on as well.
That's sweet.
They look great.
They look really good.
I like the style that you've got going there.
It's nice and comic book-y.
We are definitely on the Wolfman end of the spectrum for the werewolf vampire physiognomy, aren't we?
Oh, I'm growing my hair back out.
Oh dear lord.
That was the give and take.
Shave the beard and the mutton chops and the mustache.
Grow the hair back out.
I'm returning to default Nord in Skyrim.
Excellent.
Right, we've got some written comments on the website.
Oh, EngageFuse sent over $5 as well.
I'm looking forward to the nursing home playing Slipknot on the PA system.
That's only when you're running the nursing home.
Ah, there's a band I really like called Revocation.
They've got a song called The Grip Titans where they all...
It's the band in a nursing home when they're really old doing one last gig for the old times and all of the old people start a riot in the mosh bit in the old folks' home.
It's great.
Excellent.
Comments.
Harry and Connor is what elites fear most.
North FC and South FC banding together.
No more brother wars.
Very true.
Britain's Next Top Islamist comments.
Connor's Bathwater On sale now Just watch PMQs, and instead of focusing the full time on the grooming gangs, they made jokes about Elon Musk and Nigel Farage, talked about Cornish holiday homes, and a boycott of an England cricket match with Afghanistan.
This is truly shameful behaviour.
Yep.
Anything but talking about the issue, right?
Sadly, I have to say that...
As satisfying as it is to see Elon Musk go so hard on the subject, he's had a lack of tact with it, which has actually opened him up to these kinds of discussions where most of what I've heard normies talk about it is that Elon Musk has been interfering in British politics and going crazy online.
That would be the prevailing narrative anyway, I'm going to be honest.
Of course, but still, I think there was a more tactful way to go about it.
Although, calling Jess Phillips a...
Rape genocide apologist is accurate.
He's been spam-luck in my tweets, so I'm not going to discourage him.
Also, the fact that they're forced to vote on it today and the Labour Party have whipped all of their MPs into voting against it is just a mask-off moment.
That's on the parliamentary records now, so that's useful.
Arizona Desert Wrap.
So it's not only acceptable for non-white, non-Christian people to exclusively identify on the basis of their religion, but it's encouraged and celebrated.
However, a white person is racist if they choose to celebrate their own faith without shame.
Yep, glad we worked out the rules.
Brilliant.
Welcome to Britain.
Lord Nerevar, I want to remind everyone that this is genuinely absurd that we in Britain even need to be concerned about Islam whatsoever.
It should rightfully be a mysterious faith for foreign peoples.
There should be no British mosques, or a strain of British Islam, whatever the hell that even means.
Don't forget this.
Ah, but how would we ride the rubber dinghy rapids?
They should only be remembered as the people that kidnapped a load of villagers off the Devon coast.
Yeah, the Barbary pirates, quite.
Yeah, that's all they should be remembered for, and they should be hated for it.
Lars Peter Simonson, the term needed to be brought up at every term is Islamofascism.
That's not quite right, and the reason that's not quite right is because fascism in the...
Giovanni Gentili and Benito Mussolini's sense is very contingent on Italian politics at the time, and it could be shorthand summarized.
It's also not really a religious kind of thing anyway, which is one of the things that many Christians criticize it for.
The state takes the place of God.
So, in Islam, the caliphate essentially serves the same role as the fascistic state, but...
The caliphate is deferential to Allah because Islam means submit.
And similarly, Islam is dedicated to spreading across the entire world.
Again, Italian fascism was kind of very insular, and they basically just...
They only invaded Ethiopia because they were jealous that everybody else had empires at the time.
It's incredibly national.
Islam is international by the very nature of the Umar.
Do you want to do some from yours?
Yeah, sure.
Bleach demon.
When it comes to illegals, I just want to end slavery for the second time since 1865. Faced.
Very good.
Good one.
Sophie Liv.
Also remember the art of the big ask.
It also applies to things we genuinely want.
Deporting everyone was the big ask, so he could walk it back a bit to make the newer deal look benevolent.
I think walking it back to the level that he has, especially with the stuff regarding legal immigration, because legal immigration is really what kills you in the end.
In the UK, it's always the focus on illegal immigration, which distracts from the fact that the legal numbers that come in are unsustainable and ridiculous.
And in America, yeah, it's a bigger country.
Yeah, they can have more people come in and not cause as much of a disturbance, but over a million people a year is still huge.
Cultural proximity matters as well.
We're not just talking about quantity, we're talking about quality.
And always remember, the Muslim rape gangs were legal migrants.
Exactly.
Someone online, how dare Trump make American companies in America hire actual Americans instead of using foreign slaves?
that's what I'm hoping for and that's what I'm hoping that people like Vance and Homan and Miller are going to keep him in line for because he's going to have two separate factions within his own administration which is going to be the Ramazwamis and other people who are more interested in potentially opening up borders somewhat so that they can have more people come in on H1Bs then you're going to have more people I would hope like Vance who has said explicitly this is a homeland this is a nation
it's not an economic zone who are going to be pulling him and I hope that he goes more in the Vance direction and I think given his contradictory statements that hopefully there is a good chance that he'll go more in that direction you've got the tech bros and the I recently wrote a piece about this for Courage.
So, I would hope that the momentum is with the NatCons, especially since Elon Musk has started retweeting some of our friends and his critics who ratioed him, like Aaron McIntyre, in the aftermath of the H-1B visa system.
them.
I actually think that Musk as well, I don't think this is necessarily strategic about the grooming gang scandal.
I think he spends so much time on his own platform that he's been significantly radicalised.
And the reason I'd say that is he's made likes private.
So that doesn't accrue any benefit because it's not actually signal boosting any posts by Musk liking them.
And if he's going through and liking accounts as let's say moderately sized as mine, what benefit does that publicly accrue for him?
I think he's just seeing these things and going...
When it comes to likes, yeah, I think the You are right that Musk clearly spends a lot of time on Twitter, and I wonder if he is...
Dragged by the prevailing algorithmic trends that pop up as much as some of the rest of us are, because from what I know, this whole thing was started by Max Tempers sharing some of the transcripts that had been recently released from the Grooming Gang's trials.
It was started by Sam Bidwell's argument with Fraser Nelson over Fraser Nelson's article.
I'll be going over that in my show very shortly, actually.
I hate that guy.
Lord Nerevar, call me an extremist if you must, but I say F the economy, get them out.
Some things are more important than material prosperity.
Yeah, and the lie that they tell you is that you can't have one and the other at the same time.
Actually, if you shut down the borders, focused on manufacturing industry, America in the 19th century had long periods of time where there wasn't much immigration at all.
Really, it was a few periods around the middle of the century when a...
During the Civil War, they were like, we need Irish people that we can throw at the Confederates, where you had massive immigration, and then Chinese as well.
But they had a relatively insular border policy at that point, built up their industry nationalistically, and became the superpower of the world.
Well, an economy is just the aggregated actions of a given people in a place and time.
And the culture is the traditions of that given people, which is predicated on a set of values they've passed down along their families.
The economy is contingent on the culture, which is where the Protestant work ethic, combined with the sort of Goldilocks material conditions of the American tundra, produced America as an economic superpower.
So if you change the people, you don't change...
Foreign peoples through the economy, you change the economy through foreign peoples.
So you're just gonna extinguish prosperity because you've extinguished the culture.
I always find the argument ridiculous.
It's like, um, the idea that Americans are still Americans if they're just completely different people who aren't descended from the previous Americans.
Right, if I've got the Robinson household, right, and I get kicked out And all of my neighbors move in, but they say it's still the Robinson household.
Is it still the same household, or is it just completely different people wearing my name as a mask?
I don't know, but you're a racist.
I've got no answer to that.
Moving on to the last segment, Connor's bathwater again.
These facts that Harry is presenting, it's on discount now.
Get it while you can.
It's just further proof that the society that we live in sacrifices the young for the old.
We have millions of immigrants to pay for their pensions and work in their care homes because they didn't have enough kids to themselves.
They own most of the assets in the country, which they bought at a fraction of the cost it is today, and they spend their wealth on holidays and purchasing more houses than they would ever need, and potentially also...
Downstairs medications.
We have an Aztec economy, basically.
Yeah.
Probably one or two cases of that, unironically.
North FC Zoomers comment calls me correct, so I think we should read it.
Yeah, North...
NorthFCZuma says, Connor's right about drinking.
Me and my missus maybe drink once a year at Christmas.
Been that way since uni, but my boomer parents have at least some wine or a beer most nights.
Hey, listen.
Having a little bit of wine one or two nights, three or four, five or six, seven maybe nights a week is not always...
Twelve nights a week.
Twelve nights a week.
Sorry, what day is it?
Oh god, my head hurts.
It's not always a bad thing.
Derek Power.
Another factor that may have contributed to boomer hedonism was they also grew up with the fear of getting obliterated by a nuclear bomb.
Thus, eat, drink, be merry, for we will die tomorrow.
Yeah, it's high time preference behaviour.
Which, you know, is not entirely their fault.
That's the fault of their government.
I spoke to Mary Harrington about this in Thomson Talks a little while ago.
Go watch that interview.
Baron von Warhawk.
I once had a boomer college professor.
She was exactly what you described.
She was an old hippie who accepted that her stupid little movement failed and so got...
Drinking and liberalism to cope with the end of the 70s.
I had the same.
Oh god, she also had a Bobby Kennedy quote tattooed on her arm, drank an entire bottle of wine while crying when Vogue V. Wade was overturned.
This is what winning looks like.
And went on a rant that Mrs. Butterworth's pancake syrup was proof that Jim Crow never ended up.
She must have been a laugh riot.
I hope that...
You didn't learn anything from it, did you?
Actually, to be fair, what you learned in observation was worth the price of admission alone, and I think that's all we've got time for.
Fantastic.
Learn from living examples, ladies and gentlemen.
Anyway, Harry, good show.
Thank you very much, my friend.
Thank you, too.
Good to see you again.
I hope you've all had a very happy new year, ladies and gentlemen.
I will be back in half an hour with Tomlinson Talks, but until then, we are back tomorrow at 1 o'clock with the podcast.
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