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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1070

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	Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
	Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 2nd of January, 2025. First podcast of the new year.
	I am joined by Harry and Charlie Downs.
	Good to be here.
	Happy New Year to everybody.
	Did you have a good Christmas?
	I had a lovely Christmas, yeah.
	It was just lots of family, lots of eating incredibly rich food, which I can't even look at now anymore.
	And yeah, it was just a welcome break to the constant churning, roiling madness of being in this business.
	How about yourself?
	I had a Christmas.
	That's good.
	I'm glad to hear it.
	We are going to be talking about some...
	I mean, the New Year has begun with a bang, actually.
	Two terror attacks in the United States.
	The thing is, it's true.
	Also, Elon Musk blowing up the grooming gang issue in Britain, which is superb.
	And then Charlie's going to give us a round-up of what exactly has been happening with migration.
	That's right, yeah.
	So one of my other hats is I work as the content lead at the Centre for Migration Control, which is a migration think tank.
	We are a small operation trying to actually do the work that a lot of other migration think tanks in the space just won't do, because there's a lot of people out there who are just recording data.
	But there's not that many people out there who are actually calling for, you know, real kind of change from an actual political perspective.
	And so I'm going to go through, well, six pieces of our research that we've put out this year, which should be of interest.
	They will be very useful if you want to make anti-migration arguments to your friends, family, colleagues, etc.
	And so, yeah.
	Great.
	Okay, let's get on.
	Alright then, so to kick off the year, America has sadly had to have a bit of taste of the European experience, because it turns out the Christmas period and New Year period is not just a time for European-based terror attacks, but American as well.
	Now, the authorities are not saying definitively that these two incidents are terror attacks yet, but they are investigating them with the suspicion that they might be so, which might also be helped along by the fact that one of them, a driver in New Orleans who rammed down a crowd of people, killing 15, had an ISIS a driver in New Orleans who rammed down a crowd of people, killing 15,
	So that might lead some to believe that this was terror-related, although people are not saying it definitively as of yet, so we'll see what investigations happen far right at saying it on twitter Well, yes, and also, well, to be fair, I watched the CNN coverage of it, and even they had a few contributors who were saying, like, come on.
	It's an ISIS flag.
	Come on, what else are we supposed to say about this?
	But, of course, they are going to potentially deflect and say that, oh, they were trying to say that, oh, it wasn't necessarily that he was doing it on behalf of ISIS. He just liked the pattern on the flag.
	Just that, actually, it was personal reasons to do with the fact that he was heavily in debt and he was radicalized by the kind of violent rhetoric of ISIS to do violent things not necessarily related to ISIS goals.
	Oh, okay.
	Why can't we just call a spade a spade?
	That was very, very torturous logic that I saw from them.
	But the first of the ones that I'm going to talk about is the Trump Hotel attack which happened in Las Vegas.
	Now, that was a Cybertruck So Elon Musk branding combined with an explosion at the Trump Towers.
	So you could make a reasonable assumption that this was something anti-MAGA that was going on.
	Clearly, because obviously Elon's heavily involved with MAGA at this point.
	If you're a detective, it's the first place you'd look.
	Obviously, but the person who was in the driver's seat of this Cybertruck when it exploded is the only person who has been killed in this incident.
	Seven people were injured, and police have said that they're not naming any of the individuals involved, and the police themselves have not named the man who was behind the driver's wheel at the time of the explosion, but the local news have named him as Matthew Livelsburger, or Livelsburger, however you're supposed to pronounce that.
	So I'll just go through some of the details that are given in this BBC article.
	The truck itself was rented in Colorado and drove all the way to Las Vegas on Wednesday morning, less than two hours before the detonation.
	It parked in front of the hotel near a glass entrance and then started to smoke and then exploded.
	Now people are saying that, you know, this is props to Elon for designing his Cybertruck the way that he did.
	It was actually the way that the Cybertruck was designed meant that the explosion, instead of spreading outwards, went straight up.
	And as you can see from this image here, the front end of the truck is still mostly intact.
	So actually, none of the glass was damaged, not much of anything else was damaged but the Cybertruck.
	Obviously it was a big enough explosion that it hurt seven other people, but actually...
	Fair play to it.
	It could have been a lot worse because the Cybertruck itself contained the blast to a certain extent, which is very, very impressive.
	And this actually only happened at 840 PT, which was only hours after a man drove a truck through the crowd in New Orleans.
	15 people died in that attack and dozens were injured.
	Now, people are of course speculating whether this was a coordinated attack on both ends.
	Which is especially helped by the fact that both of these vehicles that were used were rented by the same company, Turo, an app-based car rental company, and both of the men, this Matthew Livelsberger and the New Orleans attacker, which is, I've heard his name pronounced as Shamshadeen Jabbar, Both were on the same American military base.
	They both are veterans of the American military.
	So there's a lot of strange connections that are being made between these, not to mention the coordination of the attacks happening within hours of one another, and this is fueling a lot of speculation.
	Some people are saying that it was an inside job.
	I don't know if there's anything to say about that.
	Some people are wondering if there has been some kind of radicalization cell operating within the American military.
	Some are of course saying that it might just all be a coincidence.
	But again, you know, your mileage with any of those theories may vary right now when we're still in the preliminary stages of investigation.
	The FBI have said the agency are looking into whether the incident might be an act of terrorism.
	They're not currently confirming the identity of the driver, but obviously the local news have done.
	The sheriff noted that both of the vehicles were rented from the same company, and the company itself said in the statement that the company was working with authorities in Las Vegas and New Orleans to help with the investigation.
	Spokesperson noted both renters appeared to not have a criminal background that would have identified either of them as a security threat.
	You know, necessarily, why would they?
	They were both in the military.
	At least one of them was an Afghan veteran, which was the New Orleans attacker, which makes it more ironic that he ended up, you know, attacking them with an ISIS flag.
	He's just annoyed that the Taliban took over rather than ISIS. Yeah, clearly.
	He watched Callum's video and was appalled.
	We actually have footage that was released of the explosion of the Cybertruck, which is only very, very short, but you can watch it here.
	Let's take a look at it.
	Yeah, it goes straight up and you might notice something very strange about all of the flashes that happened immediately afterwards.
	That's because Elon Musk and Tesla immediately went looking into what was going on and found that because some people were saying, oh, the lithium battery leaked caused the fire that caused an explosion.
	Some were trying to speculate initially that this was an accident.
	In fact, what was found in the back of the truck was explosives and fireworks which spread the explosion.
	I feel like there's probably a joke to be made about New Year's fireworks there, but it's probably in Porte, so I'm not going to make it.
	It might be.
	It might be.
	Again, local news have reported that this is a gentleman called Matthew Livilsberger, who is now dead, who is the driver.
	Multiple sources told ABC affiliate Denver 7 and KOAA News that Livilsberger, 37, a former army veteran of Colorado Springs, was behind the wheel of the vehicle which exploded outside of Trump International Hotel, He allegedly died in the blast, according to sources.
	Police are still not confirming his name.
	And again, he and Shamsuddin at Jabbar served at the same military base in Colorado Springs.
	And you can also see that people were reporting showing his LinkedIn page, which gives a detailed background of his military history.
	He'd been in the U.S. Army for 19 years.
	As of right now, this guy we do not know anywhere near as much about as Jabbar and why he may have done it.
	People don't know if he did it for ideological reasons, which might be the case given that obviously it was a cyber truck outside of a Trump hotel, but there was no iconography like the ISIS flag found at the scene of this.
	So, investigations are still pending, we'll see what happens.
	In New Orleans, again, what's happened is Shamsuddin Jabbar drove a truck at high speed into crowds around 3.15am before crashing and exchanging fire with three police officers who then killed him in the exchange of gunfire.
	So good on them for neutralizing that threat, even though obviously they couldn't save those 15 people's lives tragically.
	Jabbar served almost eight years in the army, including a deployment in Afghanistan, and was honorably discharged.
	He recently converted to Islam and began behaving erratically according to his ex-wife's husband.
	An Islamic State flag, weapons, and potential explosive devices were found in the truck that officials say he used in the attack.
	There's another similarity here, which was that explosive devices were found in this car, it just seems that in this situation he wasn't able to get them off.
	So again, signs of potential coordination.
	The investigation says that the ISIS flag and potential bombs have raised the specter that the international terrorist group played a role in the attack.
	Aletheia Duncan, assistant special agent for the FBI in New Orleans, urged anyone who's had contact with them to In the last 72 hours to reach out to law enforcement, we're aggressively running down every lead, including those of his known associates.
	Now as well, his home, I believe, was in Houston, Texas, and I have seen footage of an armored police vehicle outside of that home, arresting all of the occupants, and you can see that there's people coming out of the home.
	With their arms up, reversing back to them being arrested, and the FBI themselves have said they are not treating this as though the attacker was alone in planning this, so they think that a few people may have been involved.
	That might end up to include Livelsberger as well.
	But we'll see.
	Officials said that the security bollards along a section of Bourbon Street where the attack happened had been removed for repairs in preparation for the Super Bowl next month.
	Patrol cars and barriers had been set up to block access instead, but the attacker drove around them.
	Superintendent Kirkpatrick said that we did indeed have a plan to stop terrorism, but the terrorists defeated it.
	Great.
	That's incredibly reassuring, isn't it?
	Good job, guys.
	At least the police were not able to neutralize him before he could cause any more damage, before he could set off the explosives.
	But good God, this should never have happened in the first place.
	But then again, we saw last month...
	The last month of 2024 in Germany that the bollards of peace do not actually do that much to stop these kinds of attacks in the first place.
	So every step of protection, every stage of protection for the public in incidents like these is woefully inadequate.
	The army veteran, they say, who rammed the pickup into New Year's revelers, was inspired by the Islamic State Terrorist Organization, according to Biden, because he came out and did a press conference about this.
	In videos posted to social media, shortly before the attack in New Orleans that killed at least 15, the man himself, Jabbar, had indicated he had a desire to kill.
	So I've not been able to find those videos.
	I assume they have been completely scrubbed and taken off of the internet.
	But I would have been very interested to see them because, again, it would mirror what happened in Germany last month where the attacker had basically posted on social media, left a trail saying, by the way, I'm going to kill people.
	I will cause a terrorist attack and murder people for the sake of my own beliefs.
	Now, he was doing it as kind of like a weird counter-jihad anti-Islam thing.
	Pro-immigration counter-jihad.
	Yes, but either way, the result is the same, which is that some radical posted all over social media, I'm going to kill people, and then anti-terrorist measures in the city were woefully inadequate to actually do anything to stop it.
	Yeah, but Harry, we were keeping close tracks on the far right.
	Well, you know, at least there's that.
	At least there's that.
	Well, yeah, of course.
	I mean, what was it?
	The FBI or the CIA said that white supremacy is one of their biggest targets in the US because, you know, you get so many white supremacist terrorist attacks like this in the US, don't you?
	And across Europe.
	The President said that he had been briefed on the New Orleans attacks post by federal investigators who were looking into his possible ties.
	In some of the videos, the suspect said that he had pledged allegiance to ISIS and appeared to be driving in the videos as well.
	He was 42 from Texas and he died in the shootout.
	So, again...
	There are some who are going to say, oh, it might not be terrorism.
	It might not be.
	It might just be that, you know, he had two ex-wives, he'd run up a lot of bills and debts, so he decided to just do this and just happened to pledge allegiance to ISIS as he was doing so.
	I mean, to be fair, right, I am prepared to accept the idea that, you know, a guy kind of going down a spiral mentally in his lifestyle You know, that does have an effect on somebody, but that's not to say that the, you know, pledging allegiance to ISIS and converting to Islam and all the rest of it is completely, you know, not a factor here.
	Because the two, you can have both.
	Why can't we have both?
	Yeah, he could be a man who decides the way out is convert to Islam and join ISIS. Yeah.
	Totally, totally plausible.
	Yeah.
	That's not some sort of exculpatory factor.
	Yeah, it doesn't have to be, they're not mutually exclusive.
	If anything, they are, you know, they're quite sort of real.
	Imagine a lot of terrorists have got mental issues.
	In the chain of logic, it's a reason.
	One of multiple reasons.
	There can be a multi-factor analysis done of this.
	Either way, again, he was from the military.
	There was a video that he had posted in 2020 explaining his background, how he was starting businesses, things like that.
	It doesn't really seem to have much relevant information, but people are sharing the video because it seems right now it's the only footage that's publicly available of him that hasn't been Scrubbed.
	Because I don't know why they wouldn't want us having those videos where he pledges allegiance to ISIS. Maybe there's extra information in there that hasn't been released to the public.
	If you have access to those videos or have seen them and there's extra information in there, I'd be very interested to hear what was said.
	Here's a photograph of the ISIS flag that was found in his car.
	Seems pretty cut and dried.
	Yeah.
	And again, people have been theorizing about this.
	Some people have been going pretty far with them.
	Not that I say that there's anything wrong with theorizing.
	Clint Russell, for instance, has been saying the hydraulic barriers were taken down to stop vehicle attacks.
	The attacker was a US military vet wielding an AR in body armor plus IEDs.
	Trump Tower attack There was a Cybertruck explosion in Vegas.
	A lot of people are very suspicious of all of the parallels and a lot of the connections between these.
	It's not like this would be the first time the FBI have done something like this.
	And of course they're very worried, and we know in fact they're very worried, about Trump coming into office and putting Kash Patel in charge of the FBI. So, this is a genuine...
	It could well be.
	To play devil's advocate, I mean, I would say, like, I see the parallels here, and I see the kind of narrative that's being sketched out, but, I mean, I can't see the objective here.
	I can't see what this has achieved.
	I mean, it hasn't I mean, the Trump Tower one didn't kill anybody, didn't seem to do any damage to the building itself, didn't seem to discredit Elon Musk, you know, because his vehicle survived.
	But even if it hadn't survived, how would that discredit Elon Musk?
	Well, that's, yeah, I mean...
	It might have just been one of those kind of political statements, we are in the era of...
	Pointless, suicidal, political statements.
	Remember, mister, I'm going to set myself on fire for Palestine.
	He's not the only one.
	Yeah, there's a few like that.
	So, I mean, we live in horrible times.
	We live in horrible times where people are politically isolated, radicalized, and have major mental health problems, and feel the need to do extreme and terrible things to get their point across.
	So, with the case of the Cybertruck, maybe he was acting alone, and this was just a situation where he went a bit crazy.
	Maybe.
	But if he was trying to make a political statement, why sit in the truck when it blew up?
	Laser glory?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It doesn't make sense.
	But then maybe we're trying to read sense into something that just completely is just an expression of insanity, basically.
	Could be.
	Yeah, and again, one of the other things that really got people thinking was the fact that both of them were at the same military base.
	So people are wondering what the connections are.
	But again, right now, a lot of the information is coming out.
	We'll see what happens with investigations.
	If anybody has any extra information to give us, we're happy to hear it.
	But right now we're in the dark about a lot of this.
	All I can say is thoughts and prayers going out to everybody who was involved in either attack, those injured in Las Vegas, and those killed and injured in New Orleans.
	These things are always a tragedy, and it's awful that we have to start the new year this way.
	Unfortunately, it's just a part of life in the West at this point.
	Part and parcel.
	Yeah, it literally is part and parcel.
	Every city slowly becomes Baghdad.
	Yeah.
	That's a nice cherry start to the New Year.
	Our crawl says, it seems plausible that the New Orleans attacker would have used the Cybertruck because he'd used a different electric truck.
	It implies some shared recipe between the attacks.
	Oh, that was one of the other things as well.
	The New Orleans attacker was also using an electric truck.
	Oh, was he?
	Yeah.
	That's weird.
	Anyway, let's move on.
	So I actually do have some good news, which is nice, because, well, everything's been bad, right?
	And now, I'm going to try not to enjoy this too much, because the base topic is, of course, one of the worst things that's ever happened in Britain, and But we've been collectively talking about this for many years now.
	I think I did the first video I made on this in 2014 after the Alexis J report came out.
	I was like, wow, that's horrific.
	Maybe we should be considering this as a major crime.
	And it's been a long time that we've been banging this drum.
	And so now to finally get some movement on the issue of the grooming gangs in the United Kingdom, the ethnically motivated, sort of ethno-religiously motivated grooming gangs in the United Kingdom, it's...
	Just, honestly, a sense of relief.
	Oh, thank God.
	You know, thank God this is, you know, finally sort of the dam is breaking and it's all flooding out.
	If I may very quickly, Kyle, I put out a tweet last night that said this issue was really one of the first things that got me properly interested in politics because, as you do when you're a kid, right?
	I googled my own name, Charlie Downs.
	Up pops the case of Charlene Downes.
	And I then read that when I was in my teens.
	And I was like, my goodness.
	The fact that this kind of thing is going on in Britain.
	I had no idea about it at the time.
	I wasn't taught about it at school.
	I wasn't seeing it in the news or anything like that.
	And it was really...
	You said it's one of the worst things that's happened in Britain's history.
	I actually would make the case that it is the worst thing.
	The worst set of events to ever happen on the British Charles.
	Worse than the Harrying of the North.
	Worse than the Viking invasions.
	Worse than the Blitz.
	I don't think it's worse than the Blitz.
	It's probably not worse than those things, but we are quite separated in time from those things.
	But what I would say is those were a consequence of a fairly conventional invasion, right?
	Whereas this is a consequence of a ruling class that's completely betrayed the population of this country, brought in these savages who have then gone on to commit these crimes and then covered it up.
	So it's an institutional thing, which I think is why it's just so despicable.
	Yeah, and so I'd like to give a lot of props to right-wing Twitter, basically, because they decided to bring this right front and centre at the very beginning of the new year.
	I don't know why day one of January was the day, but everyone started posting about the grooming gangs.
	And I was like, yeah, no, good point.
	Since if everyone's going to do it, I'm going to get in on it as well, because it's just such an open wound that has not been allowed to begin to heal people.
	Because no one's been brought to justice, really.
	Okay, yeah.
	The gang members themselves have gone to jail.
	Okay, great.
	That's great.
	But as I point out here, these men were trafficking these girls to various cities where they would be prostituted.
	Well, who were the men that they were being prostituted to?
	You know, what communities were they being prostituted to?
	All of the MPs, the councillors, the police, at the various different levels of the state...
	Why has there been no accountability for that?
	And so, this, like I said, it's a festering wound, and everyone started kicking it off.
	And it was great to see.
	It wasn't coordinated, but it was kind of like a natural upswell from writing Twitter.
	This is an issue we want resolved, and it's morally just, and it needs to happen.
	And it was really nice to see, well, people getting in on this.
	People who are, you know, important, famous, and have much bigger reach than the rest of us.
	Elon Musk replied to a bunch of my tweets on this, which was very nice.
	And it's one thing I like about Elon Musk.
	There are lots of people who have got their complaints about Elon.
	Yeah, okay, he's not perfect.
	He's under a lot of pressure, I imagine.
	But he's been completely consistent on the children-actually-should-not-be-victimized position.
	So he's got that kind of daddest streak in him.
	I mean, one of the first things he did with Twitter when he took it over was he took over and found, oh, there's a lot of CP on this platform.
	Why would that be?
	And then he banned that.
	And then that all went to Blue Sky for some reason.
	But anyway, so Elon has been weighing in on this consistently.
	And he just decided to go on essentially a day-long crusade about this subject.
	And it's amazing.
	It's finally, thank God, the richest, most followed man in the world is calling attention to this issue.
	Thank God, right?
	So Liz Truss began tweeting about it.
	You can see 34 million views on this tweet.
	Because there were lots and lots of people, like Sam here, who were pointing out just the atrocious injustices that, again, have been festering unresolved for over a decade now.
	Where, in this particular case, as you can see, parents who were attempting to rescue their children were arrested by the police when the police were called to...
	they were called by the Krooming Gangs.
	To prevent them from breaking in and rescuing their own daughters.
	It's just unbelievable.
	And this is coming to the attention of the Americans who are like, how can this be real?
	It's like, yes, we've been trapped in a nightmare Blairite dystopia for two decades now.
	And finally, people are realizing how bad this has been.
	And so good on Liz Truss.
	Something else that I think about all things in life, but this especially, is there is such a thing as a cosmic moral debt.
	Something like this doesn't just go away.
	It will manifest itself in some way.
	And I have long believed that if it is not dealt with properly and handled with a degree of seriousness and severity by the authorities, and this is, to be clear, not in any way an incitement to this, then I think that the way that this will manifest itself is just riots then I think that the way that this will manifest itself is just riots in an order Well, that's what the Southport riots were about.
	Yes.
	The Southport riots were the issue that has gone unspoken.
	Yeah.
	Manifesting itself in ways that they don't want.
	But this is the point.
	I mean, like you said, it's an open wound and it doesn't just, you know, the authorities can ignore it, but it's not just going to go away.
	Yeah.
	And that's what Liz Truss is pointing out, you know.
	The authorities who turned a blind eye in the name of not inflaming racial tensions.
	Well, I'm sorry, but when you've got one group being predatory to another, the tensions are there whether you like them or not.
	So, I do actually have an insight on this.
	So, I released a report recently in which I basically made the case that it appears, if you look at the data, that the authorities are actively suppressing the recording and reporting Of ethnicity data when it comes to sexual assaults and rapes.
	Because if you look at statistics out of London for all sexual assaults and rapes, and if you look at child sexual abuse nationwide, you'll see that age and sex are recorded almost every time, almost in 100% of cases.
	Whereas if you look at ethnicity, it's about a quarter of the time.
	And so that points to something like a cover-up.
	That points to the fact that they could be recording this data if they wanted to, but they aren't.
	The argument that I made was that this is due to interpretation of the Equality Act, as so many ills of modern Britain are.
	If you look at Section 149 of the Equality Act, it mandates that public bodies seek to foster good relations between different groups, essentially.
	They use the term groups with protected characteristics and groups without protection, blah, blah, blah.
	Whatever, it doesn't matter.
	But this appears to be, this is not some accident, right?
	And it's not even a choice at the individual level.
	This is because of policy.
	It's been a conscious policy to try and protect the Pakistani Muslim community from the reputation they would otherwise have incurred.
	From this behaviour.
	But this is the point.
	This idea of not inflaming racial tensions.
	This is actually the mechanism by which that happens.
	It's because the authorities don't want to create tension.
	They create and maintain a state of active injustice in the country.
	And so people are furious.
	It's disgusting.
	Yeah, it is disgusting.
	It's disgusting, you're culpable, you're part of the crimes as far as I'm concerned.
	Yeah, agreed.
	Because what is happening is that inflamed racial group tensions between people is not coming about because people are made aware of crimes that are being done.
	It's done because of the crimes.
	That's what inflames the racial tensions.
	If you want to prevent the racial tensions, you're going to have to prevent the crimes.
	And in the cases of large-scale communities all being complicit in it through silence or active involvement, well, I'm sorry, you're going to have to remove those communities.
	We'll get to all this.
	Let me carry on.
	Because you're not alone in that thought.
	Anyway, so people like J.K. Rowling were tweeting about it.
	And the reason I point this out is because these are...
	I mean, J.K. Rowling's got what?
	How many millions of followers does J.K. Rowling have?
	14 million followers.
	Liz Truss's tweet got 34 million views.
	Elon Musk himself, again, most followed man in the world as far as I can tell.
	200 million followers.
	This is an issue that is becoming undeniable and unavoidable, right?
	And so it's good to see...
	Again, they're not all right on every issue or anything like that, but this is an issue on which they are right, and it's very, very much to their credit that they're actually really slamming this on the table and saying, listen, watch Tommy Robinson's documentary.
	Like, Elon Musk tweeted this.
	Elon Musk's pinned tweet is currently...
	Free Tommy Robinson!
	The Overton window, I've never seen it shift so rapidly.
	It's blown wide open, yeah.
	I mean, this is just superb.
	Again, you don't have to agree with everything Tommy Robinson has ever done or said or his positions on various things, but on this particular issue, he is right and it's good that the...
	I don't know how to describe them.
	The centre-right are getting behind this and saying, no, this is a correct thing.
	That's a good thing to push, and there's no point countersign it.
	And again, you've got lots of people.
	James McMurdoch from Reform.
	And this is a great point that he's making it, right?
	So in the last couple of days, Labour have launched a new review every two and a half days.
	So that's a huge number of reviews that they've been doing.
	And yet, when it came to the grooming gangs, yeah, we're not going to have that.
	We're not going to have an inquiry into the grooming gang scandal.
	So, as James points out, what would you infer from this?
	Well, that this is policy.
	I would also infer from this that, you know, the inquiries that are being conducted are essentially, you know, they're not actually aimed at solving anything, would be, you know, one thing you could conclude.
	It seems to just be a kind of, you know, the managerial state justifying its own existence.
	Yeah, just...
	Because that's the way that our system works now, is it just creates itself continuously.
	Would you trust Labour to do an impartial review of this in the first place?
	Was it the 2020 review done by the Home Office, which was almost explicitly just to try and simmer down tensions and try to make excuses for actions that have been taken by someone?
	Well, actually, it's not all of them.
	It's not literally every single foreign person in the country is grooming children.
	So therefore, You can't say anything.
	And another thing is the equivocation.
	It's like, yes, but the majority of people molested are molested by white men.
	Therefore...
	It's like, therefore what?
	Therefore there's no problem?
	Even though if you actually read the details of the data, it's not that at all.
	It's actually, no, they are majority Asian gangs.
	But then that's the point.
	They're mixing together two different kinds of phenomenon.
	And of course, per capita, you would expect that because it's a majority English white country...
	Anyway, so good for Reform MPs, and Nigel Farage has tweeted about this, and various others have tweeted about this, for getting in on it.
	Elon has been going really hard on this, and man, this is just so good.
	As he says here, In the UK, serious crimes such as rape require the Crown Prosecution Service's approval from police-charged suspects.
	Who is the head of the CPS when rape gangs were allowed to exploit young girls without facing justice?
	Keir Starmer, 2008-2013.
	Going very hard.
	Very, very hard.
	I would also add that at that time when Keir Starmer was the Director of Public Prosecutions, it was around the time that the suppression of ethnicity data started that I was talking about earlier.
	And people are just posting, well, things from that time, like newspaper articles from that time, pointing out that, yeah, no, he actually was the one making the executive decision on this.
	And he was, well, no, they're not that big a deal, in fact.
	We don't want to stoke racism now, do we?
	These people are my clients, thinks Keir Starmer.
	I stopped that man from getting deported.
	Why would I charge him now?
	Well, they're really the victims of a racist society, don't you understand?
	It's strangely fitting that at this time in British history we have this man as our supposed leader.
	Yeah, he is.
	And on your point there, I know you said it offhand, but it is remarkable that you get German psychiatrists basically making that argument, which is, well, it's an expression of the rage that comes from being displaced within society and the racial isolation that they feel.
	So therefore, please, Your Honour, don't give them a sentence.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you know what?
	I'm not sympathetic to that at all, weirdly enough.
	But one of the good things that Elon promoted was Charlie Peters and his investigation.
	He's really a long-time warrior on this subject.
	And Charlie, in fact, has a fantastic thread here.
	You should go and look at it in your own time, where he just goes through his extensive research into the grooming gang phenomenon.
	And as you can see, he's doing an incredibly thorough job.
	He is one of the finest journalists in Britain today.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And we are such a dearth of good journalists.
	But again, 15 million views.
	Spectacular.
	You love to see it.
	This is a great start to 2025. And I'm absolutely adoring this.
	So if I seem excited, it's not about the subject.
	It's about the prominence of the subject coming into the British public discourse.
	Because you can imagine what Labour's, like, you know, Fuhrer bunker was like this morning.
	Because this all was happening quite late in the evening and through the night because it was the Americans.
	Genning a lot of this up.
	And so they must have woken up and look at their Twitter notifications and gone, ah.
	Which, good.
	There's nothing wrong...
	What we're getting excited about is the justice.
	There's nothing wrong with being excited about justice.
	Justice might come for the people who have done this.
	Because, I mean, there are lots of people who have just suffered for decades.
	There are grooming gang survivors on Twitter, like Sarah here, saying, look, I mean, A, I don't know if that's her name, you know, she's got to post anonymously, obviously, because there's real chance of actual backlash in these communities that still have to live cheek-by-jowl with their abusers, right?
	Yeah.
	So anyway, she gives us a harrowing account that, of course, we've all, I assume, in this sphere, we're all aware of.
	So I'm not going to linger on that too much.
	But then you get the denialists, right?
	And now Ella Cobain here.
	It was one of the worst.
	Absolutely one of the worst.
	Because she has for years now been denying that this is something to do with the Pakistani Muslim community, which is just impossible to come to unless you were actually trying to cover up for them.
	And great post here by Alma.
	Who points out that if you actually read her analysis, she finds that, yeah, 40-fold over-representation of Pakistani men among perpetrators.
	She can't explain this, and so she tries to just deny it and pretend that it's not an issue.
	And it's like, no, it's good that these denialists have been held up and pilloried over this.
	Absolutely pilloried.
	This is disgusting.
	Why is she in defense of the Pakistani community when they're raping English girls?
	She is an English woman.
	Yeah.
	Come on.
	And again, there's something I always come back to when I find myself getting extremely heated and worked up about these things, is how history will remember these people.
	Because I have absolutely no doubt that justice will be served on this particular issue.
	And in 100, 200 years' time, you will read the name Dr. Ella Cobain as a collaborator, as a suppressor.
	I think collaborator.
	Collaborator is the right word.
	Someone complicit in all of this.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Anyway, you've also got Helen Braley here, who of course denied The Asian grooming gangs, the Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs.
	As Jacques Yu's paper pointed out here, the current obsession with Asian sex gangs, quote-unquote, focuses too narrowly on one dimension to this crime, making the emergent profile of Pakistani groom misleading.
	She's now a deputy director in the Home Office.
	So Britain is being run by the people...
	By the collaborators.
	By the collaborators.
	By the people who...
	Literally, the inheritors of the Blairite Project to bring in this community, to rub our faces in diversity, and then to cover up this community's crimes against us.
	And it's no coincidence that this community votes 90% for the Labour Party.
	It's no coincidence.
	And the collaborators are in government, the architects of this.
	These people, I just don't know how, you know, surely this woman has a niece, maybe even a daughter of her own.
	She was a girl herself once!
	She was a girl herself.
	How can you look in the mirror after saying things like this, after looking at the facts of the matter?
	Yes.
	But just, these...
	It's so treacherous.
	Again, I try not to think about it.
	I'm just thinking about the good that is coming out of this, which is the Americans, thank God, with their huge profiles, just like raining down fire on them.
	And again, I will not hear criticisms of Elon Musk on this particular subject at the very least.
	Elon, again, just to point out, the country is run by the people who are behind all of this.
	Keir Starmer, Jess Phillips, this woman, Helen Braley.
	The country is run by these people.
	And again, this is the Ella Kobang one, but her own research found that, you know, 96% of the rape gang offenders were non-white and 80% were Pakistani.
	And her conclusion was, look guys, there's nothing to see here.
	Well, I think something that is important to note here, right, is the entire, you know, liberal project, the entire project of multiculturalism is founded on the notion that there is no such thing as groups, basically.
	When the rubber hits the road, everyone's an individual.
	And so if you are able to draw group, you know, judgments about groups on the basis of what the majority of that group...
	A significant portion of that group does.
	If you're able to notice trends and patterns of behaviour, and if you then draw a conclusion that maybe there's a problem in the Pakistani community in Britain with raping young English girls, then the entire rest of the project falls apart.
	Because then all the other assumptions that that's built on, they just collapse.
	It's also built on the idea that there's no moral distinction between these groups, but I'm sorry, I think there are enough cases at this point when you have grooming gags operating in 24 plus different cities, and it's always the same pattern, it's always the same kind of man, and just some of the stories where a 14-year-old girl is raped, goes to a police station...
	Raped by a Pakistani man.
	Goes to a police station.
	The police go, no, go away.
	And then she's raped on the way home by a different Pakistani man.
	You say, look, there is an ethical problem with this community.
	The very nature of their ethical system has to be the thing that we're questioning.
	Yes.
	Right?
	Like, I just...
	The amount of ones where it's like, oh yeah, these three friends got together and then plied a 12-year-old with drugs and raped her.
	I'm like, I can't even imagine having a conversation like that with any of my friends.
	I was like, look, I've got some drugs.
	There's a 12-year-old over there.
	She's vulnerable.
	What are we doing, guys?
	And they'll be like, what do you mean?
	The hell do you mean?
	I'll be like, oh yeah, good point.
	I probably shouldn't have said that out loud.
	But no, apparently this is something completely common in this community.
	Yeah.
	It's like, that has to be talked about.
	And I've got to say as well, just in terms of the attitude of some people, you know, some of the native British on this issue, I mean, I have friends who I've had conversations with when the topic of politics comes up, who are just completely unable to escape, you know, what I would call the mind prison of relativism, where they cannot draw, they cannot bring themselves to draw distinctions between groups because, you know, for fear of whatever, being called racist or, you know, not being liberal enough or whatever else.
	And I point to these things, I say, you know, look at the grooming games, for example, look at cultures...
	Where cannibalism is normal.
	Is that worse or better than what we are?
	And they'll say, well, it's just different.
	It's not better.
	Even then, on that note, yeah, it is different.
	Am I allowed to have a preference?
	And of course I'm allowed to have a preference.
	So I prefer ours to theirs.
	They can prefer theirs over there.
	As much as they want.
	Not my problem, you know, in Papua New Guinea or something where they're being cannibals.
	I don't care as long as they stay over there.
	Not my problem.
	In my country, in my culture, I have a preference for mine.
	I'm totally allowed to have it.
	And our preference deserves to be the predominant one.
	Anyway.
	Carrying on.
	Elon Musk just hammering this.
	Hammering this constantly.
	There must be accountability.
	And again, why have police allowed the grooming and rape and murder of British children for over 40 years?
	Great question.
	Why?
	And this keeps going because, of course, Jess Phillips decided, when asked, to reject a couple of days ago.
	A call for a government inquiry into the grooming gang scandal.
	She wants to just kick it down to Oldham Council.
	Now, the councils have been deeply involved in this scandal, in the cover-up itself.
	Not that I think anyone in the Labour Party wouldn't also be involved in the cover-up, but the point is that's a morally irresponsible thing to do.
	We're going to say the people who oversaw the grooming gangs are going to be responsible for interrogating the grooming gangs.
	No, I don't think so.
	And so Elon Musk's response to this was shameful conduct, throw her out, and send her to prison.
	Happy 2025. Yeah, this is a great start to 2025. I mean, I was like, there's going to be a meltdown over this.
	And Elon Musk, he actually replied to my tweet and then some other people's tweets on this.
	Because, I mean, oh yeah, there we go, good.
	Like, this is the kind of energy I want 2025 to be met with, right?
	Yeah.
	Throwing our political opponents in jail for allowing children to be raped, and the richest, most followed man in the world is like, yeah, good, that's the way things should be.
	Excellent.
	For you personally, this must be an incredibly satisfying moment, because you're someone who's been called every name under the sun for many years at this point, for basically speaking the truth about issues like this.
	And it must be incredibly gratifying to actually have this recognised by some of the most powerful people in the world who may actually have the means to actually do something about it.
	Yeah, no, that's why I'm having trouble suppressing the smile.
	The subject itself is unbelievably macabre, but the fact that we're getting some motion on this, again, at the very beginning of 2025, is a really optimistic portent for me, and I'm feeling very, very white-pilled about things at the moment, and it's just so nice to see them actually, yeah, because the great thing about this is there is just no counter-attack from the left.
	There's nothing they can counter...
	Anything they say is going to be construed, because it is, as a defense of the rape of children.
	As it should be.
	Exactly.
	And that's exactly what it is.
	And so you've got Elon just going so hard.
	Again, just people equivocating.
	Equivocating on TV. Oh, well, you know.
	The director of public prosecution is here.
	And Elon Musk is like, what a pathetic cuck.
	Throw him in prison too.
	Love it.
	This is the right energy.
	This is exactly the right energy.
	And...
	Like, you've got just people all over going like, you know, they want children's capital of culture in like 2022 as well, which is just grim.
	It's like, right.
	And you know that was a conscious decision.
	You know why they're doing it.
	You know why they're doing it.
	They are trying to paper over the festering wound, and it's not going to work.
	Because now we have, like, we, the British right, with this particular moral issue, we have international backing now, you know, in the most, just the biggest megaphones in the world, and we have MPs.
	Can we very quickly, just real quick, go back to that previous one?
	Look at those two words there, for everyone.
	For everyone got us here.
	For everyone gives you grooming things.
	Can we not do it for the children?
	Yeah.
	Actually, you know, for them.
	But yeah, we've not only got the eye of the most rich and powerful men in the world, but we also have MPs in this country who actually are getting it.
	Now, Rupert Lowe, as you can see I've said, is by a long way the best politician in Britain.
	Top man.
	He posted,"...we should also be ferociously pushing to deport family members of these men who were aware of the heinous crimes their husbands, fathers, brothers and sons were committing on young British girls.
	They knew about it and did nothing, out, gone, deported and never allowed back." And someone's like, well, the whole community in those areas would have been aware.
	And Rupert just replies with, then so be it.
	Perfect.
	Good.
	They knew.
	They all knew.
	And they did nothing.
	And in fact, in many cases, they decided they would cover up for their family members because, for them, the tie to that family member was more important than the injustice that were being committed and the need for justice.
	Like, it's not on.
	Yeah, I mean, two quick points.
	I mean, one, in terms of the covering for family members...
	Not to, you know, go into dangerous waters here, but let's not forget about the fact that many in the Pakistani community are married to their cousin.
	And so there is a greater degree of, you know, interwovenness in these communities because, you know, that's the way that these people operate.
	And the second thing, just in terms of what you were saying before about how, you know, you go to your mates and say, oh, lads, I've got this girl, blah, blah, blah.
	I remember a couple of years back reading a story about how there were other school children involved.
	Boys would come in in their school uniforms and rape the girls.
	Think of that.
	Think about that.
	I try not to.
	But it's one of those things where it's just like, I don't know anyone that I could bring that proposal to.
	I know that every single friend...
	In fact, every friend I've ever had would look in horror if that was...
	They would call the police on you.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	They would call the police, and rightly so, were that to come out of my mouth.
	And so the fact that this is just so normal in these communities, so your face is just like...
	The fact that it's so normal, like, Rupert is completely on the money here.
	There needs to be an accounting for this, and I'm sorry, it goes beyond just the individual men who were involved in the gang themselves.
	Because again, they had customers, they had friends and family members who all knew all about this.
	This is a congenital problem with the community.
	Anyway, let's get some comments, because I've been loads in.
	Matt says, Elon's posted for Britain to free Tommy Robinson.
	Yeah, I know.
	I had it.
	I had it.
	Big Prick says, I believe that what sparked the LPRG chatter on Twitter...
	Yeah, so LPRG, I think they should be renamed from grooming gangs to Labour's Pakistani rape gangs.
	Because Labour brought them in, they vote for Labour, Labour protected them, and they brought them specifically to do this, it seems.
	So, yeah, LPRGs.
	Yeah.
	Was the release of the transcripts from the court cases related to the gags?
	I just want to give Max Tempers a big credit on this.
	He's been really hammering this point and making sure the correct excerpts have been getting out to get it in people's faces.
	Max has been doing a superb job.
	I was wondering if those transcripts had been only recently released or people have just picked them back up again.
	So if they've been recently released, that makes sense of it.
	Scanline says, what's your opinions on Elon being against this but pro-importing people from these cultures to do work and saying it's DEI to be against it?
	I'm not going to rehash it.
	It's too much work.
	Take the wins where you can get them, I say.
	Ryan says, fellow British men, I urge you to hit the gym, build your strength, and prepare for the future.
	Stand steady to protect your families and uphold our values.
	You know what's interesting is that Peter Boghossian pointed out that, you know, a lot of Muslim men Do martial arts training at the gym a lot.
	For a reason.
	So be aware.
	It's because it's a culture that actually does value strength.
	For the rest of its faults.
	But also they realise that they're in a different country.
	Regarding the scanlines one...
	Can I give my opinion on that?
	If you want.
	Yeah.
	This is perhaps controversial, but I believe that we're being butted up by Elon.
	I believe that this is...
	You know, good things might come of it until there is actual action, until somebody like Elon or Trump is actively putting pressure on the UK outside of tweets, outside of words, to effect change on this.
	I... Don't see what it's doing other than just winning people back around to Elon after he had an almighty crash out on Christmas last week.
	Because I even made the joke at the time, which was that Elon's going to have to post, hmm, interesting under a lot of racist posts to win us back over.
	And lo and behold, what is it that he is literally doing?
	Because one of the other things that I can imagine that this would be, if I were to be a cynical and conspiratorial man, not that I've ever been known to be either of those things, You're not a cynical person, why would you act like that?
	There's a suspicion in me that this is going to be entirely transactional, because I agree that Elon said explicitly last week that he would go to war with people over the H-1B debacle.
	That is something that is absolutely necessary for him and his worldview, which is the importing of skilled workers from across the world into Western nations, which I do not think is a good thing.
	I do not think these people are actually skilled or bring value to our countries.
	We'll get into that.
	Calling it DEI for people native to the West to say that they don't want to be invaded and depopulated from their own countries I think is some of the most disgusting and scummy use of rhetoric that I've ever seen with this.
	So my worry is that this is going to be entirely transactional and that you're going to get the punishment for the grooming gangs, which is great.
	I'm all for that.
	In exchange for infinity-skilled migrants into your country, and the one will put out the flame of the other.
	Maybe.
	I mean, we already get the infinity migrants anyway, so nothing changes on that.
	I'm personally a bit more sympathetic, because I get the feeling that, essentially, Elon is kind of speedrunning the experience I had, right, from, like, 2015 onwards.
	And it is difficult to break free of the spell of liberalism.
	It is difficult to do that.
	It's emotionally difficult and morally difficult.
	But he's definitely on that trajectory.
	There's no point being a purist about things because essentially that comes down to vanity.
	I wouldn't say I'm being a purist on this.
	I'd say I'm being very sceptical.
	And I appreciate that.
	But my point being is...
	I think that he's under a lot more pressure than you or I, and he's coming to an inflection point that's difficult to get through.
	You were never a liberal, right?
	For a very short time.
	When you say that it's difficult to pull the liberal scales from your eyes, I will retort with, for men of a certain age.
	Yes.
	For Gen Xers, like me.
	It is a difficult thing, because you were raised in a culture where there was just no other way of thinking about the world.
	It was completely normal.
	It'd be like a boomer condemning Winston Churchill.
	In a way, right?
	I mean, I find it strange that Elon still holds this view as being a South African, but, you know, he's also an international man.
	Sure, but the point being, what I think his outburst was, was essentially the kind of final retrenchment of the liberalism in him.
	And I don't think it won the battle, right?
	In the same way that it didn't with me either.
	Because I must have said something very similar to Woe's Back in like 2017, 2018. And it didn't win that battle then, right?
	And woes, I am sorry.
	Oh my god!
	I'm not going to block you!
	Someone's going to clip that, they're going to send it to him, he's going to be thrilled.
	That's why I'm saying it in public.
	But I went through something very similar, and I think Elon's going through something like that.
	And I think I recognize this because I'm that kind of Gen Xer like he is, right?
	And so I'm being a lot more forgiving.
	Now, I'm not going to say you can't be right.
	It could be entirely cynical, and I might be wrong.
	I hope...
	Yeah, I know.
	Because Elon is in far greater a position of power than we will ever be, especially having the ear of Trump himself to effect positive change on this.
	But this recent outburst, alongside other statements that he's made over the past few years, and sadly also statements that Trump himself has made over the need for enormous numbers of skilled migrants to come into the U.S., I am sceptical.
	Sure.
	And it's not wrong to be sceptical or anything like that.
	But I don't think we need to be unforgiving on these things.
	Binary, I'm going to skip your comment, I'm afraid.
	You know why I'm going to skip your comment.
	An evil zombie toe says, What happened in Rotherham and other places is vile.
	Both the perpetrators and the government are covered up.
	It's being rehashed.
	Now what?
	Unless it induces change, nothing ever happens.
	Well, that's the thing.
	The beginning of the change is this, I think.
	Yeah.
	You know, Nothing can happen unless it comes to the forefront of our discourse.
	And for Elon Musk to really keep nailing this, on the people who deserve it, is a genuine service.
	And it's a definite support.
	And it has attracted the attention of people with actual power, like MPs.
	I mean, like, obviously, Lowe, who you...
	Farage, loads of the Conservatives.
	Yeah, well, Jemric was talking about it.
	Kemi Bainok.
	Anyway, we'll leave that there.
	Right.
	So, as I said, one of my other hats is working for a think tank called the Centre for Migration Control.
	And I thought I would do a little roundup of some of the research that we've done in 2024. I think that 2024 is going to be remembered as being the calm before the storm.
	As an eventful year, it was an eventful year.
	We had the riots, of course.
	We had the election of Trump.
	But actually, I think that, you know, the next 10 years are going to, you know, they're going to be some of the craziest in living memory.
	I really do believe that, due in no small part to some of the things that I'm going to talk about today with regards to immigration.
	But first of all, I just want to run through some of the key statistics around immigration for 2024. It's going to be a statistic-heavy segment, I'm afraid, so strap in.
	Good to have all the information in one place.
	Yes.
	So, total immigration to the UK in 2024 was 1.2 million.
	That's gross.
	So that's 1.2 million new people, 80 to 90% of which are from non-EEA countries coming into Britain, which is down, to be fair, from the 1.32 million in 2023, but it's still, you know, historically unprecedented levels of demographic change.
	Well, until the numbers are revised two years from now, and it's actually like 3 million people.
	But that's a city the size of Birmingham every single year.
	Yes, yes.
	And the four most common countries that migrants came from were India, Pakistan, China and Nigeria.
	So these are countries with very little in common with ours, in terms of their view of the world and their lifestyles.
	So EU nationals accounted for only 10% of total immigration.
	And I recognise that historically people have had problems with EU nationals as well, but if it were up to me, I would take EU nationals over non-EEA nationals any day of the week, because whatever you want to say, we share a greater degree of cultural proximity with people in Europe than we do...
	I have met quite a few perfidious polls, though.
	No offence polls, I love you, but still, quite a few on the dole.
	Yes, so of the 1.2 million, 280,000 were work visas, right?
	So these are your supposed skilled workers.
	However, something worth noting is, as our research has showed, the salary of skilled workers over the last two years has dropped by £10,000, right?
	So in a lot of cases, they aren't even breaking even when it comes to their contributions and what they take out of the system.
	But we will get to that in a minute.
	Can I have this?
	Yeah, yeah, I'm listening to himself.
	Remember how to use this?
	There we go.
	Good stuff.
	So, yeah, and beyond that, 97,000 came via asylum applications, so this includes the small boats and other forms of illegal migration.
	432,000 came from study visas, and this is something that is growing in salience, the recognition of the fact that we have hundreds of thousands of students coming here, also bringing dependents, although there was legislative reform on that, which made it more difficult for students to bring dependents, but still...
	It still happens.
	It still happens.
	And just go to Oxford, Bath and you'll see it in the streets.
	Yes, yes, yes, absolutely.
	Just a quick thing on this.
	This is a massive issue because this is literally what's propping up a lot of the sort of, well, universities that otherwise wouldn't be profitable.
	Yeah, so I'm going to get into some of our actual research then.
	So the first one, which we published in February, so it does actually mostly pertain to 2023, but it's still very relevant, is economic inactivity amongst migrants aged 16 to 64, which is to say working age.
	So in 2023, the number of economically inactive migrants of working age reached its highest point in recorded history.
	Surpassing the 2022 total, which was itself a record high.
	So the public sector expenditure, this includes students, by the way, on economically inactive migrants, has been about £36 billion since the start of 2020. Everyone wonders why we're so poor.
	Indeed.
	Everyone wonders why everything's so expensive, why public services don't work as they should, and so forth.
	The next piece, related, is the record number of migrants in the UK are not in work.
	So in the second quarter of 2024, there were as many as 1.7 million non-UK nationals, either economically inactive or unemployed.
	And so are they claiming benefits?
	Well, the pro rata cost of such a huge level of migrant worklessness, and this only accounts for them using public services that are available to all of us, doesn't account for benefits, is 8.5 billion pounds.
	That's your money.
	That's your money.
	That's our money.
	And this is without assuming that a significant portion of those might actually be in work in the black market as well.
	Yes, we're only going by what's officially available from places like the OMS and so on.
	There's so much that is kept off of the records that you cannot look into on purpose.
	Yes, indeed.
	So over 70% of migrants who arrived in 2023 on a work visa impose a net cost on the Treasury, right?
	And this is crucial to understand, because this completely discredits the notion that mass migration is some way...
	Economically beneficial for us.
	So this is based on a report put out by the Migration Advisory Committee, which is the quango that advises the government on migration policy, occupied obviously by a bunch of leftists and open borders activists.
	So, where are we?
	There we are.
	So 70.6% of long-term migrants who arrived in the UK in 2023 via a certificate of sponsorship earned less than the £38,000 needed For them to make a positive economic contribution.
	So once again, this is a huge increase on previous years, because in 2022, 55% of those using a certificate of sponsorship were set to enter a job in which they would earn less than 38,000, and in 2021, it was 53%.
	So it's a massive increase.
	Put simply, two-thirds of the migrants that are here are just costing us money.
	It would be better if they weren't here.
	And again, this whole idea that we need migrants for our economy to function is just total nonsense.
	It's crippling us.
	Well, whenever I hear the term skilled migration, I just think back to that clip of Kelly Osbourne saying, well, Donald Trump, if you're going to throw out all of those Mexicans, who's going to be cleaning your toilets?
	And all of her co-hosts.
	No, no, don't say that.
	Not because really they know that they think she's wrong, but really because, no, you're not supposed to say that, but that's not what we're talking about.
	I've got to say, I go back and forth on this narrative that we're sold, that we need these people because British people don't want to do these jobs.
	I think, actually, that there is a certain element of the British character that thinks of itself as being above certain types of work, to a certain extent.
	In a way, yes, but in another way, no, right?
	If they're paid enough, then they will do the work.
	There is a certain kind of bourgeois person who believes that working in service jobs is too menial for themselves.
	Sure.
	But most people aren't that person.
	No, sure.
	Sure.
	A lot of my family's working class, I used to clean toilets before the minimum wage existed.
	Yeah.
	Before the foreigners arrived.
	Yeah, no, it ironically was.
	Now you'd be S out of luck, sorry to say.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I wouldn't even be able to get that job.
	But the point is, it was a summer job and I needed the money, and I was glad to have the money.
	You know what I mean?
	But it is a chicken and egg thing.
	Why import all of these foreigners when we have so many lazy teenagers?
	You also don't have to pay them very much either.
	This is a great point, because I went to Salisbury.
	For a little weekend away with my wife recently.
	And it was so weird to have English teenagers serving us food in restaurants.
	It was just really bizarre.
	It's the same experience of going into a petrol station in Cornwall and it only being English people working there.
	They will actually work if you allow them to do the jobs.
	Yeah, but the point is, you know, obviously migration suppresses wages, which, you know, is why it's a kind of chicken and egg thing, because if these jobs don't pay enough, then English people won't want to do them, therefore bring in more migrants, blah blah blah, all the rest of it.
	So, the next thing I wanted to just call your attention to, actually, now this is not our work, this is not from the Centre for Migration Control, but it is the work of people who I would very much encourage everybody watching to go and follow.
	This is two Annons, Juice and Aylmer, who's already come up today.
	Both very good boys doing excellent work when it comes to data.
	This is a map of the UK that tells you, in each region, what percentage of social housing tenants were born outside of the UK. And if you want to look at this, this is migrationfacts.com.
	Yeah, I don't know if you can use that to hover over...
	Oh, well, I'll do it.
	Where do we want to go?
	Why don't we go to Swindon?
	Swindon?
	Let's take a look.
	There we go.
	11.6.
	There we go.
	So Swindon Central, almost a third of social housing tenants in Swindon Central were born outside of the UK. How insane is that?
	It makes perfect sense.
	Swindon's diversification has been very recent, within the last five years.
	Prior to that, Swindon had Manchester Road, but that was it.
	It was a very, very English town.
	Indeed, yes.
	Well, I would encourage everyone to go and check this out, because it's very interesting.
	Zoom back out again for that.
	I just wanted to point out, like most maps of bad things in the UK, London represents a tumour.
	London is red, yes.
	It's literally a tumour, and Birmingham is a slightly less big tumour.
	But both will get worse, and both will spread.
	Well, there are areas of London...
	Some areas where it's 70%.
	Well, there's areas of Ealing in London where it's in the order of 75%.
	It's just...
	Why are we battery farming foreigners?
	Because it's good for the economy.
	It's so preposterous!
	And each of those social housing situations will represent a case almost certainly like that one that was highlighted by Sadiq Khan, where they go into the house, the children are dying because they've got mould all over the place, they've taped up the vents because they don't know how to air the place out, it's damp, it's cold, and they complain saying it's our fault.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So if migrants are not some kind of massive economic boom for the country, then you would at least hope that we're bringing in people who are at least learning useful skills that they might be able to bring for our country or take back to their own in order to make their own better so there's less migration from them, blah blah blah.
	But no, only a quarter of new foreign students are on strategically important university courses.
	So less than a quarter of recent foreign students are on courses that the Department for Education classifies As strategically important.
	So in 2022 to 23, there were 459,000 foreign students that began a course at a UK higher education institution, but only 111,000 of those are on courses that the British government views as important for supporting the NHS, engineering, technology, and various labour market needs.
	So three quarters of it is frivolous?
	Three quarters of it is like, you know, management and, you know, project planning, whatever, degrees that are just like basically fake degrees.
	No offence to anybody studying.
	Well, it's not even that they're fake degrees, but it's like they can do those degrees in their own countries.
	Well, again, it's kind of similar to something that I said earlier.
	A lot of university courses are just the university justifying its own existence.
	And we can't forget, by the way, as well, that foreign students are a massive financial boom for universities because they charge them three times as much as now.
	Yeah, they're at least double in the universities that I've been in.
	But sometimes more.
	It's crazy.
	Now we're going to get into the more truly, you know, obviously harmful elements of migration.
	Because we've addressed the economic side, which is very important.
	It's just impoverishness.
	Yeah, speaks for itself, the economic side.
	But migrants, our research shows, are disproportionately more likely to commit crime.
	So the foreign-born arrest rate is 34% higher than that of the British-born population.
	In 2023, there was one arrest of a British national per 94 people.
	However, for foreign-born nationals, this rate surges to 1 in 70. So we are bringing people here who are not on economic benefit.
	They are criminal to a greater degree than the native population.
	They are not doing anything useful.
	And they are living, occupying housing that could be occupied by native British people.
	It's not just housing.
	It's all the infrastructure.
	Yes.
	All of it.
	You had to get the train here, didn't you?
	Yeah.
	How was that?
	It was awful.
	Yeah, it was crowded and full of people that, yeah.
	Very loud.
	Overpriced?
	Yeah.
	Yes, very much so, yes.
	But that then brings us to this final piece of research, which is that 49% of the British public want to see a freeze on all non-essential immigration.
	And that's zero.
	That's gross zero, right?
	So new polling that we...
	That's not even the ones who are like, yeah, I think it should be lower.
	Yeah.
	No, no, that's probably another, like, 20 or 30% on top.
	Yes, yes.
	And it's important to note, by the way, that 76% of 2019 Conservative Party voters believe that Britain should freeze all immigration.
	All immigration.
	So Conservative Party...
	I mean, I don't know what the Conservative Party is doing.
	I don't know why...
	I mean, yeah, I mean, that's another topic entirely.
	But if you look at their base, as much as they may have voted for someone like Kevin Badenock, there is still people in there who actually do have their head screwed on, because they're saying that, you know, we need to stop all immigration.
	So, to conclude, I would say that, as we know, right, there is no credible arguments left in favour of mass migration.
	The economics, you know, that's done.
	It's clearly a net negative.
	It's impoverishing us.
	It's making life more difficult.
	It's making it more difficult for young people to buy a house and start a family.
	It's making rent more expensive.
	It's making, you know, it's making public services less efficient, it means you can't get a place in schools, the roads are more crowded, the public transport is more crowded, it's making everything in that regard worse.
	But even if it could be shown that mass migration was in some way economically beneficial to the UK, let's assume that it did actually raise the GDP, or whatever nonsense we are fed, it still wouldn't make it right, still wouldn't make it acceptable.
	Because of the other effects that it has.
	Now, obviously, I focus today, and the Centre for Migration Control focuses on quantitative research, because it speaks for itself, and it's very easy to use in Parliament, for example.
	But actually, I think where the conversation really needs to go now, now that these arguments are completely discredited, is to the qualitative side.
	The moral question of dispossessing our children and grandchildren of the country that my generation inherited.
	Exactly, yes.
	Yeah, I actually put out a bit of shameless self-promotion.
	I put out a video today, which I would encourage everyone to go and watch, talking about how British values is just a nonsense concept.
	And it is actually essentially a political construct designed to justify mass migration and multiculturalism.
	Because we're told that to be British, it means you just believe in democracy and tolerance of different faiths and belief and liberalism and all the rest of it.
	And it just doesn't.
	Because these people that are being brought here are not British.
	They are not us.
	They are the consequence of, you know, either...
	Misguided, let's be charitable, misguided or actively malevolent government policy.
	And obviously we've spoken already today about the grooming gangs, don't need to go back into that.
	So, I mean, all of this is to say that mass migration has been a disaster for the British Isles.
	It's one of the most evil things that have ever been done to our people.
	And, however, with that being said...
	I do think that the discourse is really seriously beginning to shift on this.
	I think there are serious voices in the mainstream, in the centre, who are actually bringing some of these issues to mainstream consciousness, which is good, because it needs to happen.
	I do think that it is basically inevitable that this is addressed, as with the grooming gangs.
	But, you know, it takes people who are prepared to have these conversations, uncomfortable conversations, because a lot of normal people, they have jobs, they have families to hold down, they have mortgages to pay.
	They don't want to go out and dissent against the state line on these things.
	It can be risky, but, you know, people have to do it.
	So, I hope that this has been useful for viewers.
	I hope that you can take some of the statistics that I have cited today.
	You can go on the CentreForMigrationControl.com website to see all of our research.
	All the links will be in the notes for the podcast.
	Yep, that too.
	But this isn't even all the research we've done this year.
	This is just the ones that I've chosen to highlight.
	So I'd encourage you to go take a look, because it's very interesting stuff, very useful, again, when you're trying to win over family, friends, colleagues, to our position on these matters, because really, I think the data just speaks for itself.
	Windpillseeker says, I don't want any work visas from any country.
	Most white outsiders vote as lefty as any other outsider.
	I don't care if they're played or polka-dotted, Scots or Irish, stout, every colour of the USA. To be honest with you, I'm very much the same.
	It's not that I don't like our European friends.
	I just don't want any more migration at all.
	I agree.
	I don't care.
	You know, I don't want a million Australians coming in.
	I don't love Australians.
	It's just, look, we've had it for 25 years.
	It's got to stop.
	It's just got to stop.
	It might be a situation where it would be like the Turkish diaspora in Germany, where when they're voting back home, they vote right-wing.
	In Germany, they vote left-wing because, well, the lefties are the ones offering them things as a client group.
	Basically, any outside group can immediately be used as a client group for subversive parties within your politics.
	It's best to just not have them.
	Yeah, it's funny how that's reflected in native leftists as well, in the way in which they will...
	You know, I was looking into the history of the Palestine flag, right?
	And it is essentially...
	It's derived from the Arab nationalist flag, right?
	It is a nationalist...
	It's the nationalism of a foreign group.
	And they're prepared to fly that.
	But if it was, you know, an expression of native British nationalism...
	Yeah, then they call it far-right and all the rest of it, but they're prepared to do it for far-rights.
	And BurnAppleTeaParty says, Labour spent years creating a native underclass reliant on benefits from the lower end of the forming working class.
	Yeah, this is what chavs were.
	They've kind of disappeared now that the mass migration has brought an under-underclass...
	I still see them about sometimes, but maybe that's just the shires.
	Well, that's the thing.
	The Chavs are not really that bad.
	I find it quite refreshing sometimes.
	Yeah, but in the early 2000s...
	Oh, it's only a white guy who thinks he's black.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, kind of, yeah.
	It's a kind of fatherless white guy.
	And it's like, okay, but he's still English and he's still like...
	Marinated in our culture, right?
	So he still knows...
	I could pull a kingsman on you.
	I'll teach you to be a gentleman.
	Well, no, this is why, like...
	You remember when Jacob Rees-Mogg at a university a few years ago was accosted by Antifar and he just marches up to them?
	And they were like, well, they're British.
	They're not going to do anything.
	Yeah, I know.
	And that's true.
	Right?
	They're a bunch of pussies, don't worry.
	He was saying they're civilised, basically.
	But when Jess Phillips is winning the MP race and is accosted by a bunch of Muslim men, you know, I was like, okay, she's actually in danger here.
	There is not that guarantee of anything there.
	And so, genuine concern.
	But Lake Wanderer says, thank you for all the work.
	Always appreciate the opinions on American politics and culture as well as your own.
	Cheers.
	Well, thank you very much.
	Wimpelsey says, Happy New Year, great start for the new year.
	Believe it or not, it actually is a great start for the new year.
	So, really, really good stuff.
	And thanks for coming on to just give us all those statistics.
	It's been a great pleasure.
	It's always fun.
	It's always important to make sure that everyone knows these things.
	There are people out here doing good work, collating all the stuff together, so the evidence is honest.
	Well, I've got to say, there is a network of people out there that I am kind of, you know, within.
	Who are really trying to bring this data into public attention.
	And some of it is through the Anon guys, like the people I mentioned in my segment, Juice and so on.
	But this actually does go up to MPs in Parliament.
	There are people who are having conversations with people like me about this sort of thing.
	And that is only a good thing.
	Now you, watching from home, are better equipped to argue with people at the pub.
	Indeed.
	And you should be, right?
	Because the pubs are important.
	Making sure we have the pubs is important.
	Let's go to the video comments.
	I've selected mine already.
	I'm not going to say them, but they are super traditional because we need to fight back against the rising tide of Mohammeds.
	So in the spirit of the season, I wanted to share some wholesome content.
	My wife and I are also big fans of traditional names, albeit we didn't go with an Anglo-Saxon one.
	What's your name?
	What's your full name?
	Nice.
	If we had a boy, I was going to name him Vlad.
	Very Hellenic name there.
	Still gutted that my wife wouldn't let my second son be called Alfred.
	Why not Alfred?
	Alfred's a great name.
	Because for her...
	I know, I think it's a great name too.
	Alright, alright.
	We'll compromise Ethelred.
	Well, yeah, that's exactly...
	In the end, I had to compromise on Alexander.
	It's a fine name.
	I've managed to win my...
	I've won my fiancé over to Arthur.
	Oh, that's...
	Oh, yeah.
	Superb.
	Superb.
	Let's go to the next one.
	You want a conspiracy theory?
	Can we turn that up a little bit?
	I'll give you a conspiracy theory.
	I mean, I'll see this before.
	Ha ha ha!
	What the hell?
	I have seen that around on the internet in dad spaces.
	I hope the comedown wasn't too harsh after that, Californian.
	As many as 1 million white English children may have been the victims of Muslim rape gangs.
	British Muslim male is 170 times more likely to be part of a sex grooming gang than a non-Muslim.
	And there are no recorded instances of non-Muslims doing this to Muslim girls as part of a criminal enterprise.
	In one local jurisdiction, it was estimated that 6 out of 7 Muslim males either knew about or were part of a grooming gang.
	No one wanted to be called a racist.
	I mean, that's all true.
	This is the thing, I mean, there are areas of this country that you can walk around, and as you walk past people in the street, you can think, you might actually know someone or be involved in this kind of thing.
	You know, I went to Birmingham, because the...
	I'm sorry to hear that.
	Yeah, I know.
	Isn't it tragic when you get to those parts of the city that still look nice, where they've got big, beautiful, old, like, Victorian, Edwardian buildings?
	Birmingham's not really that.
	It has a few around the city centre.
	Mainly the old civil service buildings.
	The Bullring is just the worst building ever made.
	It's literally an attack on the human psyche.
	A few years ago, before we started this, John and I went to interview the Muslim dads.
	We don't want the woke stuff in the schools, which obviously we agree with.
	And just getting to their house was actually kind of scary because there were literally just clusters of Muslim men just standing around and they'd watch us go past because obviously neither John or I were Pakistani.
	So it was just like, you know, they would just stare us.
	We drove past and I was like, Jesus Christ, John.
	And John was like, yeah, let's lock the doors.
	It was genuinely quite worrying.
	Yeah, let's go on.
	My mom wanted to make gingerbread houses this year but I've never done it and I decided I wanted to go big or go home so I ended up making this.
	It took a lot more time and effort than I thought it would but I think it turned out pretty well for the first time making a gingerbread house.
	Thanks guys and Merry Christmas.
	My younger son would have been thrilled with that.
	If there's any time for diabetes, it's Christmas.
	That's very true, yes.
	John says, I was randomly looking through Charlie's Twitter this morning, thinking it would be good to see him on Loses again so soon.
	So this is a very pleasant surprise.
	And any episode with Harry deserves top tier on the base tier list.
	The subscriber is doing is always good.
	thank you very much Al Sahim says welcome back hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year and has come back full of vim and vigour for starting off a banger of a year also Carl was a great episode with Tom Woods much better than one years ago I'd love to see you do Dave Smith's show part of the problem I'd be more than happy to, of course.
	Calm Rob says, There was only one YouTube video on the channel where he sat down explaining his work history.
	It was posted to Poll tonight, but probably Scrub now.
	That'll be Jabbar.
	Omar says, New Year seems to have a self-fulfilling prophecy aspect.
	People don't just expect something crazy, but want to see something change, even if they have to do it themselves.
	Still, basic terrorism is so common as to be mundane, it'll be difficult to ever top the sewer tunnel dues.
	That was an amazing story at the beginning of last year, but I think it took a week or two for that story to come out into 2024, so we've still got a few weeks of the first month.
	So, you know, hold out.
	Things might get spicy.
	I like how crusader-y the beginning of 2025 has been.
	This is good at portent.
	If there was going to be anything that was the tunnel dues for New York, I was joking about this with Josh, would be tunnel Hindus.
	Elon in his plan to...
	Come out of SpaceX!
	Yeah, in his tunnels under LA to alleviate traffic, he was actually tunneling to India the whole time for skilled visas.
	Garlic Goblin says, I see Harry describe the barriers as bollards of peace.
	It's a great term.
	I saw someone the other day referring to them as the pillars of Islam, which I thought was genius.
	That's a good one.
	Someone online says, if only there's some pattern to these attacks that we could use to foresee and prevent further attacks.
	Yes, if only.
	Bore of Albion says, I had to explain to an American friend, asking how there wasn't more rage and riots in response to the rape gangs and talking to them about the legitimate use of classism.
	That it's complicated things.
	So much of the middle class refuse to agree with the working class, even at the expense of children's lives and innocence.
	So all the Labour government has to do to contain the gangs to working class areas to near enough ensure that the middle class actually never do anything.
	Yeah, this is a major issue.
	And people forget that the working class is only about a third of the population of the country.
	So even if they all were to agree on one thing, it still wouldn't be a majority.
	And the government is very able to flip the sort of single degree educated Blairite middle class against the working class on the basis of essentially just snootiness.
	You're not these, are you?
	It's sad that part of the old, if you want to call it, social contract of Britain for a long time was a sort of high-low of the aristocratic and higher classes with the working classes against the snooty middle classes.
	And it was with really the destruction of the British aristocracy that the middle classes were able to gain an ascendancy, because I don't think the aristocracy, the old aristocracy, would have let this happen to the working classes, because primarily the working classes were their clients.
	They probably would have drawn their swords themselves.
	Yeah.
	But the betrayal of this country is far-reaching and never-ending.
	This is why the bourgeoisie shouldn't be allowed to gain ascendancy.
	Stay in your offices.
	Stay as middle managers.
	We don't want you doing anything else.
	You've proven yourselves terrible at it.
	Yeah, no, that's exactly it.
	Just go and make some money, right?
	Just don't do anything else.
	Just go and make some money and then pay your taxes.
	It is funny, just as an aside, ever since the sort of James Lindsay woke right thing happening, I've been really leaning into, like, using words like bourgeoisie and proletariat.
	I mean, it's...
	But it is true, but it is accurate.
	It is accurate.
	It's a scriptural analytical framework, yeah.
	Marx's complaint, the communist manifest, wherever the bourgeoisie gains ascendancy, they sunder all of the traditional social mores and bonds.
	I can't remember the exact term he uses.
	I mean, that is true.
	And bad.
	Lib Dem voters.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Lib Dem voters.
	And the more interesting, like, radical, if you want to call them that, right analysis, has always been from people who tend to adopt those sorts of terms anyway.
	I mean, Jonathan Bowden called them the bourgeoisie as well, because it's just an accurate term.
	Well, I mean, the two schools of thought that I've read the most of are basically reactionaries and Marxists.
	And if you read both those, you know, the crossover there is very interesting.
	Obviously the solutions differ.
	You're just confirming James Lindsay's thesis there, Charlie.
	Watch out, you're going to have a four-hour ramble dedicated to you now.
	They're approaching the same issue from different directions.
	The Marxists want to destroy things, the right want to preserve things.
	It's literally that is the difference.
	So going like, woke right, it's like, okay, but what does that mean?
	You know, oh, you're in favour of not destroying the country.
	Not a centrist cuckold.
	I don't know how much time we have left, but I dislike people on the right who call themselves capitalists.
	Because I think it's just got such the wrong ring about it.
	Because that's the language of your enemies.
	That's the bourgeoisie's tool.
	Exactly.
	And two, why would you want to have an attitude that's like Scrooge McDuck, basically?
	That's not a great look, is it?
	No, that's exactly right.
	I'm all for owning property and selling things if I want.
	But to have an abstract commitment to a free market.
	I don't care about the free market.
	Screw the free market.
	If it's not doing its job, it's here to serve me.
	I'm not here to serve it.
	I'll tell you what.
	There is a real appetite for something like an anti-capitalist right.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Seriously.
	The British public, man, has always been, essentially, the anti-capitalist right.
	Yes.
	Because they're very much socially right-wing, but economically left-wing, you know, fine, we're not for selling out the country, actually.
	So it's weird that we've sold out the country.
	I feel like I need to read more into distributism, because I have a feeling that that's what you're basically describing.
	Kind of, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Just a quick thing on the, back to the Grimm Gangs of the Boar of Albion point though.
	The reason this was allowed to go on is because it was working class girls and underclass girls being raped.
	If this had happened to a single middle class family, hell would have been to pay.
	It would have been, and they know, they know that's the case.
	Anyway, someone online says...
	Oh no, I've read that one.
	Russian says...
	Well, that's the thing, right?
	You know, 2025 feels like we've entered a new era.
	And actually, anything's on the table, and who knows what'll happen.
	So, Artemis says, "Is there some correlation between the amplification of the grooming gang scandal and the recent Channel 4 documentary?
	Spot an advert for the new year, the Channel 4 documentary is titled something like 'The Fake Grooming Gang Scandal'?" Yeah, so this is the one example of where a girl lied about being a victim of a grooming gang in order to get attention.
	And so they leapt on it, blew it out of proportion in order to essentially discredit the actual victims and future victims of these grooming gangs in order to preserve the dignity and nobility of the Muslim community in Britain.
	They go on the list of trolls.
	However much you may hate journalists, it's not enough.
	No, no, you don't understand.
	Anyway, so Brian says, Elon Musk is currently the leader of the Anglosphere.
	He's doing everything he can to denounce Baby Castro and Sir Kierkami.
	To be honest, that's kind of true.
	He's taking the moral leadership in all of this.
	And so this is why I don't...
	I'm sick of the sort of, like, little heel-nipping anons who are just like, oh, yeah, but he said this, I don't know.
	He's like, yeah, okay, fine.
	But he is still doing something useful.
	We can talk about that another time.
	In the middle of the attack is actually not the time to start countersignaling.
	Do it after this is done.
	Old Roy says, that's feminist logic.
	I know of one case that's different from your generalization, therefore your generalization is incorrect.
	So yes, that's precisely the...
	Notice how the...
	That's not feminist logic, that's woman logic.
	But I repeat myself, no.
	But notice how the issue...
	Actually, it's very much like liberal logic, right?
	Because you'll notice...
	Exactly, woman logic.
	In a way, in a way.
	But I saw an old clip of Jeremy Paxman interviewing Tommy Robinson.
	Oh, I saw you share this, yeah.
	And notice how Paxman was just like, what, are you saying every single one?
	And what Paxman's doing here, he's not interested in the subject.
	He's interested in the characterization of the subject.
	It's like, look, if you don't have a perfect characterization, then we're not having this conversation at all.
	It's like, but that's not how any human interaction works.
	And his whole role is a propaganda perception judgment.
	That's all he's there.
	Yeah, he was terrible on that.
	He was genuinely embarrassed.
	He was a twat.
	And I felt like slapping him through the screen.
	And Tommy kept his cool on that as well, which I wouldn't have done.
	I would have lost it.
	There are huge parts of the media landscape that exist literally just to run cover for this sort of thing.
	100%.
	I go on LBC from time to time, and it's amazing the way they...
	It's amazing the way that...
	I've probably got Blacklist stuff to bring this up.
	Oh, well.
	But it's the way in which they run cover.
	They, in a way, try to frame themselves as being somehow fighting the power and speaking out against it.
	It's like you people are the foot soldiers of the regime.
	You literally have James O'Brien as one of your...
	Like, premier broadcasters.
	Like, there's no apparatchik more dedicated than...
	I've said this to leftists on broadcasts in the past, where you say, like, do you not realise that you...
	And it's funny when they don't realise.
	Do you not realise that you are a foot soldier of the current power structure?
	And I am the radical here.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You are literally in defence of the current government and the current intellectual ruling paradigm that has been in charge for 25 years.
	You're a conservative now.
	Yeah, this guy said to me, this leftist guy, said to me, like, oh, well, I don't know what you've been reading on the Daily Mail, but this, that, and the other.
	And I was like, mate, I'm 23, I don't read the Daily Mail.
	Daily Mail.
	What are you doing?
	The talking?
	I can't read.
	What's the Daily Mail?
	I've never heard of that.
	Give me a TikTok video.
	What you're actually doing there is like the one useful thing that Noam Chomsky has done, which is actually write on ideological power structures being presented through the media is And there's that interview.
	Was it with Jeremy Haxman?
	I know, I know, right?
	You're taking useful political analysis from people you disagree with?
	Woke.
	Woke!
	Red-handed, caught me.
	You are right about this, Chomsky.
	I'm about to dye my hair blue.
	No, it might have been with Jeremy Paxman himself.
	It was with somebody where the guy...
	Where he's talking about the use of the media to present particular opinions and drown out other opinions, and they wouldn't let anybody who didn't already hold those opinions be in the position of this presenter that he's talking to.
	And he's like, so you're just saying that I'm part of the conspiracy?
	And he says, no, I'm saying if you believed anything else, you wouldn't be sat right there right now.
	It's great.
	I don't like crediting Chomsky with anything, but that is so on the money.
	Yeah.
	That's why James O'Brien and LBC exist.
	It's so good.
	Eloise says, hate to admit it or say it, but it's only seemingly more liberal-leaning women who want to try and show off empathy or do anything to avoid reputational damage, being called racist, etc., who consistently greenlight for migration and widening state services for vulnerable groups.
	Yeah, there is many a joke made of this, like liberal women signing release warrants for criminals and then complaining they can't walk the streets at night because it's not safe.
	This is why liberal democracy is a feminized ideology, because it is the mainstay of the middle classes, and what are middle class men?
	Cucks.
	Yeah, cucks.
	Pussies.
	John Stuart Mill.
	What's his worst crime?
	Is it writing on liberty or utilitarianism?
	No, it's cucking to his wife.
	See, I've kind of seen them being both part of the same problem.
	I just hate utilitarianism so much.
	I suppose he might have seen it from a utilitarian perspective.
	Well, you know, however cucked I am, she'll be so much happier.
	So therefore, it's a fair exchange.
	The proletariat, again, woke right, got ya, says the term non-essential immigration implies that there's such a thing as essential migration.
	What the hell is that?
	Well, that's what they say in order to justify still bringing in people.
	No, I can think of essential migration as if there's some spaces that need filling in the Raj.
	We need Indian administrators for Africa.
	Which is actually what happened in Stanley.
	Yes.
	And a California refugee says, There are purely Indian enclaves that have popped up in less than three years near me.
	I went on one of my famous nature hikes into a place on the edge of nowhere on the weekend, and it was jam-packed with Indian-speaking Pujabi, and I felt I was in India, not America.
	There's loads of little British countryside areas that have essentially been taken over.
	That's the thing with the Boris wave, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	It's just this really bizarre experience of being in...
	People I love live in Surrey, right?
	And I'll visit them from time to time, and you'll be walking in the countryside, the heart of England, right?
	The place where, for example, the aliens landed in War of the Worlds.
	You'll be walking around there, and then you'll just see a group of people from the Middle East, and it's just like, what?
	It's just so weird.
	Why are you...
	I forget the name of the place, but in the Peak District, there's this river where there's some stepping stones that you can go over it.
	There's like an ancient sort of like tourist spot.
	And I went there back in 2021, so this would have been right when people started to notice the Boris wave.
	And even then I was looking around going like...
	loads of indians and pakistanis and there was a group of pakistanis just stood right next to the river barbecuing a lamb leg and i'm like what what are you doing this is like a tourist spot for kids to come and go over the stones and have a nice peaceful time yeah that's why we're here yeah like what the hell are you doing here why are you having an open barbecue I can't help it.
	I mean, you know, it's easy to get pessimistic about these things, but I always just come back to the idea, the truth, I think, that in 200 years' time, this period will be remembered as just like, what were they doing?
	There is going to be a kind of YouTube video genre of digging up crazy things that happen.
	Oh, man.
	I've already got a trove of such things.
	And people are like, you won't believe that they had an Indian Prime Minister in People are like, what the hell are you talking about?
	You are right.
	I do think it is inevitable that the cycle will get around and everyone will be like, no, this is not good and these people need to go home.
	Anyway, on that bombshell, it's time for us to finish.
	Charlie, where can people find more of you if they'd like?
	Well, you can follow the Centre for Migration Control everywhere.
	Go to centreformigrationcontrol.com to read all of our research so that, again, you can help your arguments with strong, robust data.
	And you can follow me personally at cfdowns, with an underscore at the end, everywhere.
	Check out my video that I released today about British values.
	It's worth your time, I would say, if I do so myself, because this is a conversation that is only just starting to happen, this notion that Britain is not an idea, Britain is a people.
	Well, this notion that Britain is an idea is very new.
	It's very new.
	Well, I mean, it was actually...
	It was only codified in 2014 by Michael Gove.
	Weird.
	But yeah, but it's only really been...
	I mean, it's been since Blair, but it's only really since the Conservative government...
	Sorry, I can't reach the knife in my back.
	Yeah, it's only really since the Conservative government that Britain has become a propositional nation, or the attempt has been made to turn it into one.
	And it's not going to work.
	Anyway, thanks for joining us, folks.
	It was a good start to 2025, I felt, actually.

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