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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1069
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of Lotus Eaters episode 1069. Nice.
And it's today the 23rd of December 2024 and today is the last live podcast of the year.
How are we all feeling gentlemen?
Merry Christmasy.
Well, I'm getting over a gastric flu, so I am feeling considerably slimmer than I was about a week ago.
But don't worry, it's all physics more out than in.
It's a Christmas miracle.
It is.
On this Christmas, Christmas Eve.
Sadly, though, the news that we have to present to you all today is less than festive and jolly and merry and other synonyms.
In fact, it's going to be talking about the...
A horrifying Christmas market attack that happened at Magdeburg on Friday.
How anti-racism provides cover for the kinds of perpetrators of such attacks.
And we're going to finish off with a very jolly story about the new New York fairy tale about somebody being set on fire.
So, yeah.
Really sorry about this, by the way.
You know, like, we wanted to do, like, a nice, jolly Christmas-themed podcast, but events happened.
But the world is awful.
Yeah, the world is just awful.
And, unfortunately, we talk about these things on the podcast, so we have no choice.
I can't get over that tiny headset attack.
Listen, it's not mine.
I got it from a friend who charged a strange interest rate on it, but...
It's alright.
I'm good for the money.
Yeah, so shall we get on with it, lads?
Yeah, yeah.
Let's go on then.
Okay, so something very terrible happened recently in Magdeburg.
There was a Christmas market and everyone was enjoying their last-minute Christmas shopping at this market and suddenly a car plowed through it at high speed.
So far, to this point, killing five people and injuring 200. One of the five killed is a nine-year-old boy.
This is, of course, awful.
Don't need to say that.
But it's one of those things where, unfortunately, this is not something we don't expect anymore.
Which is why we have various bollards, I suppose we'll call them.
What do we call them?
The bollards of peace?
The pillars of Islam, I think they're called them.
That's one term for them.
But in Germany, they've decided to kind of beautify them, turn them into Christmas tree-shaped concrete bollards.
Well, and the ones that they don't, I think they spray-paint dank Merkel on them.
Oh, right, do they?
Yeah.
The point is, this has been a perennial feature of Christmas in the West for quite a while.
Now, since the advent of...
Unfettered immigration.
And so it's just something we have to deal with.
And so when I heard about this the other day, I wasn't actually terribly surprised that this had happened.
Of course, disappointed and shocked, but this isn't the first time, and I doubt it's going to be the last, unfortunately.
Anyway, so as the BBC tell us, the attacker was a man, accused, called Taleb al-Abdulmosin.
Traditional German name.
He was a Saudi Arabian immigrant to Germany, and he had conducted the attack at about 7 o'clock at the time, and he somehow got past the bollards and driven just straight into the thing.
I'm not going to play the video, obviously, because it's awful.
Utterly horrific.
I couldn't get to sleep until about 4 o'clock in the morning after I saw this.
It was just...
I had the same experience as many.
Get home, think, oh, I wonder if I've missed anything.
Check my phone, first thing I see is the video.
Awful.
At first people thought it was an accident, and then, of course, it turned out not to be.
The officers were already at the market, they arrested the driver.
So Al-Abdul-Mosin arrived in Germany in 2006, and in 2016 he was recognised as a refugee, again from Saudi Arabia.
He ran a website that was aimed to help other former Muslims flee persecution in their Gulf homelands, and he was even interviewed by the BBC about this in 2016. Here he is wearing a fedora.
He is literally an ex-Muslim new atheist.
The poster boy, to the extent where the BBC wanted to feature him.
Indeed.
And the German Interior Minister, Nancy Faeser, told reporters that it was clear that he held Islamophobic views.
Which raises a bunch of questions.
And again, I think it's important to highlight here, yes, Islamophobic views, ex-Muslim, wearing a fedora, what many would like to claim to be integrated, but whether or not integrated is an accurate term here, still very tribal in his allegiances.
Well, I don't want to go too hard on that angle, because we...
That's certainly how I see it, because the first thing he does is like, oh, well, I need to immediately start a foundation to get more people like me here, because I've moved to a foreign country that's allowed me in, given me refuge, what's the first thing I'm going to do to pay them back?
Well, I need to make sure that I'm surrounded by as many people like myself as possible.
That is definitely a valid angle as well.
I'm not saying it's not valid.
I just don't want to lean too hard on it.
Because there are other things that are happening.
But you are right.
He's definitely got sympathies for his...
People like him, you know, other Arabs, who are presumably, assuming he is honest in his anti-Islamic stance.
Now, I just want to be clear, there are lots of people saying, well, this isn't really true, but the thing is, he did this for a decade, and he's got, he had a long Twitter history of being integrated into the kind of ex-Muslim or anti-religion society.
I don't know if the Takiyah thing is right or not, but the point is that he found a system that worked, which is, claim that I've got an ex-Muslim, therefore they're an apostate in Saudi Arabia, therefore you have to let them in.
And that is true.
And the thing is, I'm not saying that there isn't a sort of...
From the liberal perspective, a morally legitimate cause there, right?
There are lots of people who are ex-Muslims in Muslim countries who want to leave, who do actually like the West, and who do actually think well of it.
The sort of Ayaan Hirsi Ali types, right?
Who do think well of the West and don't want us to destroy ourselves, and who are, I guess, as the German Interior Minister would describe them, Islamophobic, but who aren't necessarily saying we have to bring in as many people.
I mean, that's what he did with his foundation.
The issue, I think, that I take most objection to is the instrumentalisation of Germany and the German people in this guy's worldview.
Because it's clear that he viewed being in Germany and what he could get out of Germany As a means to an end, rather than as an end in itself, which I think is really the problem.
But the thing is, this then opens up questions of, well, how could you ever know whether that's someone's plan or not?
And the answer is, you can't.
And this leads us down various other rabbit holes that we'll get to in a bit.
So anyway, it became apparent that because he was...
An ex-Muslim Islamophobe.
He was a big fan of the AFD. They do, in this political article, point out that he supports the AFD. And he was a supporter of Tommy Robinson.
He's a supporter of Gert Wilders.
He's a supporter of Elon Musk.
He is essentially what we would describe as centre-right in the classical liberal mould, as far as we can tell.
And the left seemed to have really embraced this angle of it, which is an odd line to take, to say that because he supported an anti-immigration party, therefore, when an immigrant commits mass murder, that invalidates the argument against mass immigration.
Yeah.
And also, okay, he's so Islamic, he's so anti-Islamic, but he attacks a Christian Christmas market.
Yes.
It's a strange thing to do.
And that's why there's been a cloud of mystery around his motivations.
With this whole supporting of the AFD, it says, allegedly, I've not seen any, because I know he's got a very well-documented Twitter account that people have been combing through.
I've seen his responses to Gert Wilders, I've seen some of the other things.
What is the evidence that he supported the AFD? Just tweets in favour of.
Okay.
So, same with Tommy Robinson and Elon Musk.
A lot of it's coming from his Twitter history.
And apparently he wanted to stop the spread of Islam.
And, of course, this means he's far right.
So, he is a self-proclaimed leftist.
Again, if we can just play this.
And I'm saying this as a leftist.
I'm not on the right.
And what I discovered...
As a leftist, is that leftists are the worst criminals on this planet.
Now, I mean, I agree with that.
That is actually true, but yeah.
The point being, though, he is precisely the sort of classical liberal...
I wouldn't call this classical liberal.
What I would call this is I left the left.
Yes.
Neocon.
If you're going to attach any sort of ideological label to it, it's...
I mean, even the rampant anti-Islam perspective is very, very...
Reminiscent of Christopher Hitchens.
Yeah.
Not necessarily Christopher Hitchens, although he was also a neocon, but it is all part and parcel of the neocon world for you and Outlook.
Sure, but the problem of calling me Leo Con is it kind of implies that he wants liberal imperialism.
And I'm not sure that he wanted liberal imperialism.
Maybe he did.
Maybe he does.
But the point being this sort of like the new atheist centre-rights coalition of people who are often made up of ex-Muslims or hardcore sort of classical liberals who are very much against that sort of worldview anyway.
This is where this guy seems to fit.
This sort of, oh, I thought I was left-wing, but the left left me perspective.
I still can't rule out the fact that he could just be lying about everything.
We'll get to it.
We'll get to it.
And so he claims to be a self-proclaimed leftist.
Or, you know, liberal, whatever mold we want to call it, who was disillusioned with the left because, as he says here, the Western left did not welcome migrants because of tolerance, because it wants to destroy Europe with Islam.
Now that is true, but also look at his criticism.
I wanted them to be tolerant because they promised toleration.
They promised essentially the liberal ideal and they were lying to me.
So I was deceived by them.
They actually just want to destroy Europe with Islam.
I mean, as someone who claims to be an ex-Muslim, obviously not something that they're like.
And it's a very similar message to Ayan Hirsi Ali.
Now, I just want to make it very clear.
I'm not saying that anyone who also shares any opinions with him is also a terrorist or potential terrorist, right?
And in fact, I think the issue is that maybe this guy didn't actually really imbibe the beliefs that he claims to have believed.
Because, I mean, at least if there's one thing about the centre-rights liberal coalition that is to their benefit is they have a commitment to democracy and they don't favour terrorism.
So it's not like we can say, well, this is clearly a case of his classical liberal centre-right beliefs because obviously that's not what they believe.
Well, the point that I'm taking from this is, right, there's a dichotomy that they're trying to sell us, which is that there's the foreigner who believes in radical Islam, foreigner who doesn't believe in radical Islam, and in fact opposes it vehemently.
Bam!
Both of them still make the attack.
We'll get to this, because I think there is actually an explanation for it.
I think he gives us the explanation himself, actually.
But anyway, so he wants to stop the spread of Islam.
He is a supporter of Zionism.
A series of tweets explaining why I've written my bio that I love Israel.
Now, there are conflicting tweets that are taken out of context that I don't know the context for that suggest otherwise.
Because the ex-Muslim community, of course, don't want to claim them as one of their own.
And so you've got a very long thread like this one, where people are pointing out, well, he was saying contradictory things.
The translation is, no, we will return Hamas to Gaza, and if you like it, we can bring Hamas to your home so you can taste it, which is a weird thing to say.
Again, I'm not sure, because, I mean, a lot of this is people whose second or third language is English, going...
A lot of this is also being taken through Google Translate, or perhaps doesn't translate well.
So I'm not sure.
But there are lots of people saying, well look, this was just taqiyya.
So taqiyya is an extra-Quranical Islamic doctrine that gives Muslims permission to lie in the service of Islam.
Now the problem with Applying that to anything is that you're essentially trying to divine someone's innermost thoughts without a falsifiable standard to work against.
So, is something Takir?
Well, yes or no, depending on how I feel about it.
And how broadly can Takir be defined?
Well, however broadly the person who wants to apply it wants to define it.
And so we end up with a concept that isn't actually terribly useful and doesn't allow us to narrow down on any one particular thing.
This guy had a long history of doing this.
Did he keep up to Kiev 10 years?
Maybe.
I don't know.
Well, politicians with 30-year careers manage to lie for the entire 30 years.
It's not that difficult to believe.
They do, but do you then set up an NGO to bring ex-Muslims out of Saudi Arabia?
Well, strip out all of the words.
What was the result?
More people like him turned up.
Sure, and we'll get to that a bit later.
I just want to focus on the ideological bit for a minute.
It's not that I think there's no legitimate allegation there.
It's just we can never really come to a solid conclusion on it.
So it gets a bit misty.
Ultimately, you have to judge him by his actions and his actions were getting more people like him into the country and killing people.
Exactly.
But the thing is, you can understand why the ex-Muslim community don't want to think of this guy as one of theirs.
I mean, they say, as a representative here, they say he's a radical Shia Muslim, as evidenced by his name, and numerous tweets and chat leaks circulating on Arabic-speaking platforms like X, and he had plans to carry out mass killings.
So, I don't know is the point I'm going to arrive at.
And there is a lot of conflicting reports of what his belief system may have been.
He did, however, make lots of statements about, well, being a terrorist in some way.
He was having a problem with the German justice system, because the German justice system was not cooperating in the way that he wanted in order to bring ex-Muslims, or purportedly ex-Muslims, from saudi arabia over to germany and so he was frustrated with this and he said things like german terrorism will be brought to justice it's very likely that i will die this year in order to bring justice he made another statement in august saying i will assure you that if germany wants war we will fight it if germany wants to kill us we will slaughter them die or go
to prison with pride And this goes to show how much of a choice this is, because you don't even need to be German.
You just post anything with a rightish tinge about Germany on Twitter, and it will pop up, oh, this post has been disabled under German law, and then they come and look at you, and if you're on the right, they come and raid your house.
If they applied a fraction of that energy the other way, this never would have happened.
Sure.
But the point, I think, is that he's someone who has not got a Western mindset, even if he believes a Western ideology.
So even if he says, yes, I'm an atheist ex-Muslim who believes in tolerance and all the promises of liberalism, when they're betrayed, the Western mindset is not, I'm going to go to war with the German people and kill as many of them as I can.
That's not the Western mindset.
That's an Arab mindset.
Well, this is a bit like Peter Hitchens' take on this, which is apparently they found some reference to him doing weed, and Peter Hitchens was immediately like, see?
It's the weed.
This is the one and only important factor in this entire case.
It's like lots of Westerners do weed, and they don't do this.
Please go back to Pet Peter.
Yes.
So anyway, the Saudis had been warning about this guy for quite a long time.
But the German authorities didn't take the Saudis very seriously because, of course, they're not liberals.
And they're oppressive.
The Saudis basically essentially said, look, he's a dangerous person, and he's been making various kinds of threats.
The chair of the Association of Former Muslims in Germany said, he's no stranger to us, he's been terrorizing us for years.
She labeled him a psychopath who adhere to ultra-right conspiracy ideologies, which is very interesting.
But anyway, the Saudis put in an extradition request to him.
And because he is apparently wanted for rape in Saudi Arabia and human trafficking.
Because...
As far as they're concerned...
That's probably what won him the refugee status.
Oh, you're a rapist?
Oh, all right, then.
Well, if we send you back, you'll probably get executed.
So please feel free to stay.
Would you like to become a doctor here?
Well, no, it's because the extradition request is a question of human rights, right?
Because the ex-Muslim will say, well, they're going to persecute me for being an atheist, which is, of course, a protective belief characteristic in the West, but not in Islam or an Islamic country like Saudi Arabia.
And so the Saudi Arabians are like, well, hang on a second, he is a rapist and actually he needs to be brought justice on that.
And so Germany didn't extradite him, where he was just left to continue being mental.
And so this is just a fascinating look at the way that these conflicting belief systems ended up creating the conditions for this to happen.
But anyway, so there are reports of him saying Allah Akbar when he's on the ground.
I'm not going to play the clips.
It's just garbled nonsense, basically.
I don't think he's saying Allah Akbar.
Lots of German speakers that I know of, and I know.
He's saying something like, which means all clear in German, or like, I understand.
I understand, yeah.
So, I don't think he's yelling Allah Akbar, but lots of people wanted him to believe that he is, because, of course, that would imply, oh, he's a Shia radical who is actually engaging in Takiyah.
I'm not sure that's correct.
What I think has happened is actually something that he posted.
Here.
Now, this is an interesting thread from him, where he says, Many fellow ex-Saudi Muslims ask me, do we announce leaving Islam on Twitter to get an asylum in the Western country?
Why, silly question.
And he says, Muhammad has destroyed the capacity of reasoning in Muslims.
Even if a Muslim turns atheist, he might still fail in extracting principles.
Now that, I think, is a fascinating statement.
Because what he's saying there is, essentially, there is a worldview to being an atheist.
And if you profess the ideology of atheism, that's a rational and thin set of propositions in your head.
I do not believe in God, therefore.
However, as Taleb himself is showing us...
Okay, you may well be rationalistically an atheist who's doctrinally committed to atheism rather than Islam, but the worldview that underpins this is one where, if I don't get my way, I'm going to go to war with the German state and commit an atrocity like ISIS. And so the worldview is still a Middle Eastern worldview.
The way that you connect concepts remains, the framework and scaffolding remains Islamic.
Exactly, and that's what he's saying here.
Many ex-Muslims do this, and he himself is one of them.
So it's like, right, okay, that's very interesting.
Anyway, the point being, though, he's far right, obviously.
The people opposing immigration are far right.
And, of course, the people protesting the massacre themselves are far right.
And so it's like, right, okay, everything's just far right at this point.
But yeah, no, there were lots of people protesting in Magdeburg, saying, well, this is terrible, how can this be allowed?
And, of course, there were various immigrants and leftists out protesting in favour of immigration.
What is going on in the head of a German person who watches nine-year-olds and families being mowed down and then goes out and protests in favour of more of it?
Well, lots of these people won't be German.
And the thing is, lots of them will, though.
Yeah, lots of them will.
There will be some, and I don't know, you are right, I don't know what kind of argument they could present when the immigrant who did it literally seems to be the model migrant who is trying to de-Islamise himself and maintain a de-Islamised Europe by his own statements.
Obviously this is all going off of his own statements if we believe those.
And then is also a doctor, so he's contributing to the economy, he's contributing to public services, etc, etc.
He's succeeding.
Yeah, he's succeeding.
He is the model Michael.
How they can then turn around and spin that into being a pro-immigration success story when he still ended up committing an atrocity that murdered people.
I do not know, other than the fact that the Germans for so long have been completely brainwashed to hate themselves.
Yeah.
I mean, there are so many strange events in this whole thing.
So, okay, if you're an anti-Islam activist who is concerned that the left are Islamizing Germany, and you're frustrated with the German state for not getting enough atheists out of Saudi Arabia, why attack a Christmas market?
If for some reason you have to attack someone, Why are you ramming down a bunch of what are going to be probably mostly atheist Germans?
Well, I think because in the ultimate calculation, it's still us versus them, and he sees the Germans as them.
Possibly.
I mean, that is genuinely...
And look at his bio.
Germany chases female Saudi asylum seekers inside and outside Germany to destroy their lives.
Germany wants to Islamize Europe.
He's still obsessed only with him and his own, and he just wants them into Germany because Germany is nothing but a zone for him and his people to be safe in, and he sees them as not fulfilling that promise.
Yeah.
He has, like I said at the beginning, instrumentalized Germany into a tool that he can use, and if it doesn't fulfill the function that he wants, Well, he's failed to extract the principles that actually mass casualty attacks.
Slaughtering women and children isn't a good thing, actually.
Yeah, that's a terrible thing, actually.
And not something we do in the West.
But I very much enjoy Noah Smith's response here.
I think European liberals have better come up with a solution to this fast, because currently the rightists seem to be the only ones proposing solutions to this.
You know, pro-Palestinian, so Western leftists and...
Immigrants chanting Intifada through, again, the German city centres that are covered in Christmas lights.
So, yeah, what are you going to say?
But what is the European Liberal going to say?
European Liberals already have come up with a solution.
It's the AFD. Yeah, that's true.
The AFD is a left-wing solution.
It just happens to be on the right side of the current paradigm.
But the entire current paradigm is massively left.
It's the centre-right of the left-wing's right flank.
Of the current paradigm.
But I'm telling you, the non-liberal solution will not look anything like the AFD, and that's what they're going to get if they don't embrace it.
And that's what Noah Smith's worried about.
But the problem that the European liberal, as in the left-wing liberal that she's appealing to here, has is that, well, these are...
Legal German citizens.
They are rights-bearing people as much as anyone else.
As far as the average liberal is concerned, you can have been in Germany for a thousand years, or literally one day, and you have the exact same right.
Because they're all propositional nation people.
They're all SIDNATs.
Exactly.
They're all social contractors, right?
And so what is the distinction between these people chanting Intifada and the average German?
Well, none.
They're just individuals, they're just rights-bearing citizens, they've all got the pieces of paper, and therefore they've got the right to protest.
They've got the right to walk through a German town centre, chanting Intifada now, and showing no respect to the dignity of the German people in the wake of an atrocious terror attack.
Done by an immigrant.
But that doesn't register in the liberal mind.
And so, they better come up with a solution faster.
Okay, I don't know what it might look like.
And essentially, you've got the AFD, who are essentially liberal conservatives.
They're like, no, there is something important about the dignity of the people, because otherwise...
Why are we doing any of the things that we do, et cetera, et cetera, right?
And so one of the things that people are doing is saying, right, this guy supported the AFD. This is far-right terrorism against the far-right for some reason.
And therefore, the guy liked Elon, the guy liked Tommy, the guy liked all these things.
So therefore, they're all bad and wrong.
And thankfully, Elon's just literally just afterwards.
Elon just tweeted out, yeah, only the AFD can save Germany.
So, he's not paying attention to them, he's not taking them seriously, he's still, no, gotta be AFD, gotta be AFD. It's better than anything else they've got, I would say.
I don't think the AFD can save Germany, because like I said, I think it's part of the left-wing paradigm, but it's worth a try before you move on to the next thing.
Yeah, it's the next thing towards the right, which is fine, let's do it, let's get what we can do with the sort of reform AFD MAGA types, see if they can fix any of the problems.
If they can't, which I don't have to be optimistic, but if they can't, then okay, we have to think of something else then, don't we?
But the point is, and what I like about this position that Elon's taken is, I don't respect their opinion.
This is actually the issue.
They've been on his back for the past two days, or since it was done whenever it was, saying, look, you've got to disavow the EFD, basically.
He's like, no, only the EFD can save Germany.
It's just the end of it, because look at the things that he's responding to.
Look at these things.
These are just atrocious.
And again, it's just all foreigners doing it.
Anyway, so like I said, it's a very confused mix of things at the moment, and there's no good answer to any of it.
But there are simple answers, and like you say, people are going to come to those simple answers, and especially if the Liberals can't do anything about it, which I don't think they can, they're going to come to them sooner rather than later.
Alright, we've got some rumble rants if you'd like to go through them.
Yep, Pete says, how convenient this terrorist supports everything that Germany is trying to ban.
Smells like planned intelligence services operation.
Maybe, but it was a long time in the making.
I don't buy it.
Because he was tweeting and involved in these things for a decade.
Whether or not it was a planned intelligence services operation, I think part of the demoralization campaign is the knowledge that if you just let enough of these people in, this will happen pretty regularly.
So, I do think this is all part and parcel of what the elites plan.
At the very minimum, you can say on the intelligence point, is that, you know, the point I made earlier, if they applied the same focus on Islam as they do to right, they would have caught him, because the intelligence...
He was literally posting, oh, I'm probably going to end up killing people.
The German intelligence services take out people with mildly right-wing views all the time.
Oh yeah, and they're crazy as well, like raiding people's houses.
Yes.
And taking everything they own and stuff like that and charging them.
The German establishment services are way worse than the British ones.
And we lock up thousands of people a year for social media posts.
Ironically enough, if you own particular books in Germany, they will raid your house and they will pulp the books.
They'll make sure you have no access to it.
Can I get a list of them?
I'll tell you afterwards.
Unlike with Axel Rudakabana, who's allowed to have ISIS training managers or whatever.
Anyway, OPH UK says, No, and I think his point is correct, that, like, you know, they didn't extract the principles.
I think that's true.
And I think he didn't either.
I mean, he basically literally said, the magic soil doesn't work, bro.
Watch this.
Yeah, no, but he literally said it and did it.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
And I think you are correct.
Like, there's no sentimental attachment to Germany as Germany, in and of itself.
You know, because, like...
I love Greece, man.
I absolutely adore Greece.
And if I went to Greece, and for some reason the Greek state was giving me jib, and I wasn't getting what I wanted from the Greek state, I would never think, right, I need to take this out on the Greek people.
It would never occur to me.
Let's just say I was going to become the world's biggest terrorist in Greece.
I'd attack a government building or something.
But it probably wouldn't occur to you to put a burden on the Greek state in the first place, and therefore you wouldn't have that problem.
No, but let's assume I did, right?
Let's assume that I had a real problem with the way the Greek state was treated.
This is all getting clipped, okay?
But I would target my ire towards the institutions of the state, and not just a random group of gathering of Greek people.
Because I like Greece.
I like Greek people.
I like going there.
Every Greek I've met has been really lovely.
And I really like the atmosphere and the sunshine and stuff like this.
So, it's a great place to go on holiday.
I would never want to do damage to the place, even if the government was being insufferable, but he just didn't hold that position, right?
And so, anyway.
Russian says, we'll return Hamas to Gaza, and if you like it, we can bring Hamas to your home so you can taste it.
Yeah, it's...
I don't know what the context is of it, and again, there are lots of contradictory things.
One of them is like, the religion of God is Judaism, and it's like, okay...
I mean, that first statement does have a touch of Zionism about it.
Well, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, no, it does.
Like, you know, Ireland can take loads of Palestinian refugees, etc.
So, yeah.
DragonLadyChris says, Before I step out, I just want to wish a very Merry Christmas to everyone at Loot Seaters and everyone in the chat.
Be safe, be well, see you next year.
Well, thank you very much, and I hope you have a great Christmas and a very Happy New Year.
Right, let's talk about how anti-racism has become deranged.
Not the title I originally wanted, but it's a title that I was allowed.
So we're referring here to an article from Mitteldeutsche Zeitung, which I think is about right.
Oh, we've actually managed to get it translated brilliantly.
So, I'm actually going to quote the salient bits from this post of Eugipius, because my computer wouldn't translate it.
But anyway, I'm going to read out the tweet version of this, because it gets the key points rather well.
So, fascinating report from Mitteldeutsch Zetung about Talib Al-Abmoshan's colleague's impression of him.
So apparently, the guys who worked with this doctor called him Dr. Google.
Amongst staff at Benberg Forensic Psychiatric Hospital, doubts have grown since the 50-year-old Saudi began working there in March 2020. We call him Dr Google, an employee says.
He got the nickname because he had to look up every diagnosis on the internet.
The man, who as a specialist in psychiatry and psychotherapy, heads three therapy wards, is said to have done his rounds always alone, he avoids talking to staff as much as possible.
All sounding a bit suspect so far...
I remember when there was that big thing on, I think it was TikTok and other social media, and loads of people were getting angry at Steve Laws for pointing out that loads of African immigrants were coming over on fake degrees, and filling in degrees for their family members as well, who then got jobs at the NHS. Why don't you become a consultant at a hospital then?
You've got a piece of paper that says, I trust your degree.
Yes, printed out in Botswana.
The word degree must be the same in there than it is here.
Yes.
He must have the same standards.
Well, they spelt degree wrong, but all the same.
There's no corruption in that country.
His German was apparently terrible and patients could hardly understand him.
When new patients asked him how they could quickly get off their drug addiction, Talib A repeatedly replied, alcohol good, honey bad.
Why did he say that?
Honey's not bad.
I mean, alcohol's not terribly bad, but like...
Yes.
I don't know the full context of that one, but that was apparently his stock phrase.
I don't know, this sounds a little bit far-fetched to me, just because we have at least one clip of him speaking that we saw in the previous...
Well, his English was good.
Oh, yes, true.
German good.
Yeah, no, you're right there, actually.
You forgot you're not German.
You forgot you're not speaking German, Harry.
You internalised it so much.
Thank God for that, yeah.
When Al-Abmoshun started working at the clinic in Bernburg, he also practised in the neighbouring Sal's specialist clinic, but his privileges were suspected because he repeatedly prescribed medication that could have put patients' lives at risk.
Staff at his own hospital repeatedly complained of his incompetence, but management dismissed their concerns.
Starting in May of this year, he began to be absent for weeks at a time.
Quoting a staff member, We all thought that our suspicions were correct and he had left because he was not a doctor.
Until suddenly he reappeared, an employee said.
We did not fire him at this point for some reason.
It would not be the first case of a doctor from Bernberg's Forensic Psychiatry Hospital being exposed as an imposter.
So this has happened more than once.
They've had an imposter more than once.
Well, it's happened in lots of countries.
Well, yes, but it happens in this particular clinic that he was working in.
Some would argue psychiatry is a fake field in the first place.
Well, we won't go there at this time.
But yes, certainly a lot of people thought that he was faking it, but they refused to consider it, obviously because he's a bit brown.
His latest absence from work began in October, a mix of paid leave and sick days.
His latest sick leave was scheduled to expire on the 20th December, the day he carried out the attack.
So, how was it that he was able to get away with this completely absurd situation where he didn't know what the hell he was talking about, he could barely speak German, he had to look everything up on the internet?
We don't want to be racist.
That's literally going to be it, isn't it?
Oh yes, yes, yes.
I thought you were saying that on my behalf, and I thought, how can I answer that?
How do I answer that?
Speak for yourself, Carl.
It's going to be anti-racism, isn't it?
Pretty much, yes.
And I can tell you what the thought process here, because I have managed to get hold of a copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Boomer.
Now, here we go.
And if you look at the top protocol, it does say do not be racist.
This was all a part of the boomer world domination plan, if I remember correctly.
Some people say that this is fake, and I don't know if it is, but somebody has read this and come to the conclusion.
Some argue that it was a piece of fiction written in the 19th century that was then later propagandised as being real.
How they predicted boomers, though, It does summarise the boomer worldview quite well, though, doesn't it?
I notice there's some repetition as the list goes on.
Now, I want to be very clear to our lovely audience watching that I am not necessarily accusing all of you who were of a certain age of being boomers, at least not with a hard R. Anti-boometic, are you?
No, I'm saying you can be born in 1955 and not be a boomer with a hard R. I'll give you the soft A. My parents are boomers of the soft A. Well, there you go.
We don't mind them.
They're fine.
But this broadly is the worldview of the boomer.
And by far and away, the most important thing is do not be racist.
But the thing is, that has been carried over to the point where, you know, this guy in Germany can be obviously incompetent.
Yeah.
Very obviously incompetent and yet still get a doctor's salary which is enough to buy a powerful BMW car and then use it the way that he did.
Because of course the edict of don't be racist has become warped to the point where you have to be actively anti-racist to the point where competence doesn't matter.
Now my argument is that an appropriate level of racism is quite acceptable.
Are you even arguing for racism in this case?
Are we not just arguing, if he crap at the job, don't let him off because he's brown?
Is there a clip of Jordan Peterson yelling merit forcibly that you might actually be gesturing towards right now?
Weirdly enough, actually, Jordan Peterson kind of has a point on that one.
Yes.
Well, I'll tell you what, fine.
I'll give you level one is just not being retardedly anti-racist.
I don't think there's a level of racism.
Like, anything that we would have described as called racism, anyway.
Well, okay, let me describe a scenario then.
Scenario is, minimum level racism is, oh look, a foreign doctor has turned up.
Should we have a quick chat with him and see if he knows roughly what he's on about?
Is that racism?
Oh, under the current laws, yes.
Under the current paradigm, yes.
I don't know if we should concede that that's racism.
The current paradigm is, you want to check this man's credentials?
Hitler.
Yes, that is, under the current system...
What would Hitler do?
Check his credentials?
Well, we can't do that.
That is 100% racism under the current system, of checking out foreign doctors to see if they actually know what they talk about.
I mean, you are right, but I don't know if we should concede that that's what racism is.
But it is that at the moment, and I'm saying it shouldn't be that.
Right.
All you need to do is you need to go to these new doctors and you say, if a patient presents with symptoms A and B, what would you do?
What kind of leech do you apply?
And if they say this kind of leech?
If he gives you some sort of sensible answer, then you go...
Okay, yeah, fair enough.
But if he says, you know, alcohol good, honey bad, then you think, oh, hang on a minute.
We might need to check whether that degree that he presented us with a misspelt degree is actually...
Is that what they taught you at university?
Giving them a basic test doesn't seem like very much...
It just doesn't feel like a commitment to racism.
Okay, put it this way.
Liberalism needs to leave my body.
Put it like this.
In America, certain tests are not applied to certain groups because there is a knowledge that they will inevitably fail them on a mass scale.
So you don't apply those tests to them because that would be racist.
Do we think that if there was a blonde-haired, blue-eyed German doctor who had to look everything up on Google, did his rounds alone because he didn't want any staff seeing what he was up to, could barely speak German, it would be odd for a German, but do you think that guy would be allowed to draw a doctor's salary as a consultant for like 20 years?
Dan, you're acting as if white privilege doesn't exist.
Yeah, Dan.
So that's the minimal level of racism, which I'm prepared to accept.
Does this document go on?
Oh, it keeps...
I saw there was a scroll bar.
We don't need that anymore.
I mean, it does continue, but I only listed the first 25 points.
That's 24, actually.
That was very Boomer off you there.
Yes, that is true.
I mean, the next level of racism, which I'm going to call the South...
Because the South Koreans are wonderfully racist.
You know, they just have the view...
They test their doctors, do they?
I presume so.
I mean, they just have the view that South Korea's at the top, and then you've got everybody else.
Now, you can, and Japan's a bit like this as well, you can go as a Western...
You mean they have a national pride?
Yes.
You can, as a Westerner, go and live and work in South Korea or Japan, but you better be bloody good at whatever it is you're doing, otherwise they won't tolerate you.
And they'll make it very difficult for you to make the move in the first place.
The path for racism is just so low.
If you're able to do your job, that's kind of my point.
That's pretty much what I'm going with here.
Don't worry, Dan's not been reading through the Eugenic Society and Francis Galton or anything like that.
At least I don't think he has.
But even then, that's not the level of racism that Dan's going to right now.
And then the next level above that is just to say if you're not X then you shouldn't be in X. If you're not German then you shouldn't be in Germany.
Unless you're invited.
Now I'm not saying which level you should pick.
I'm just saying that we shouldn't be at level 1 anymore.
We should be at least...
I suspect there are gradients between those two.
They feel like the extremes.
There are probably gradients of racism between those, quoting my racism.
I could imagine several more levels on top, but okay, we won't go there at this time.
Let's move on to the realism of the idea of a bit of...
Let's see if we can scroll up.
There we go.
There we go.
So Peter Boghossian.
Is he one of our guys?
I think...
Yeah, he's a friend of mine.
He's a good tramp.
So he asked the question, for those who think this is a problem...
He's a terminal liberal, though, I have to say.
I mean, just look at this post.
He's not a boomer.
Is he?
No, he's Gen X. Oh, okay.
He wants liberalism to work, but he is also accepting of the fact that it has flaws.
Right.
Liberalism can work under a very specific set of circumstances.
Yeah, for 130 IQ Anglos, I agree.
This video does not show the prevailing liberal circumstances.
Liberalism is sharia for Anglos, but yeah.
The question that Peter asks is, for those who think this is a problem, I'm curious as to what you think a realistic solution is.
Add brackets, the key word here being realistic.
Now, this is the point that a lot of people have got to at the moment, which is...
It's a father crowd marching through the Christmas market, calling for whatever, you know, anti-German nonsense.
Why are they here?
How do we get rid of them?
But a lot of people are focusing on the realistic, as if re-migration is just somehow impossible.
And the point I make below is that mass deportation and seriously must counter-Islamic policies and policing are entirely realistic.
It's merely a question of political will.
France has given us loads of examples of this, actually.
We'll literally ban the burqa.
Yes, mandate a pork-based diet.
I don't know if we can go that far.
The important thing is...
You don't need to mandate it with me, mate.
So there's no effect for you.
This is like when you accuse me of not drinking milk.
I drink milk and eat pork and I love these things.
Yes.
But the point is, you know, there are some people who don't like pork.
Wasn't the angle I wanted to go on?
To save Western civilisation.
You must eat pork and you must eat beef.
You preach to the choir, but like...
It's the members who aren't part of the choir.
Who is against a glass of milk and a bacon sandwich in this conversation?
No one, but like...
Well, there we go.
So we're mandating it.
That's step one.
I am feeling that maybe the libertarians might have a point where like, these things are good, but does the government have to force us to do it?
Well, if it's so good, then the fact that...
Can't we just deport those people?
If it's so good, then what's the problem with the government forcing you to do?
So your citizenship should be a glass of milk and a ham sandwich?
That should be the first of many tests when you get to the border.
Drink this, eat this.
It's a very friendly and welcoming test.
To be fair, if I went to a country and they gave me a bacon sandwich and a glass of milk, I'd be like, oh, this is brilliant.
This is great!
The thing is, what if the Chinese start doing that?
I'd normally have to pay for these things because the Chinese will eat anything, so we just end up with loads of Chinese immigrants.
Well, there's other tests.
Right, okay.
We have gone very slightly sideways from the point that I was looking to students, but no, it is a right challenge.
I'm already thinking of utopia.
Snack-based immigration system is perfectly fine.
But no, my general point is that all of this stuff seems...
Unimaginable and unrealistic until you start doing it.
I've just recorded a video for the Daily Channel today about how Sweden, France, Italy, Germany, obviously the United States under Hohmann, and Canada are all taking massive restrictive policies to their immigration, and they're all planning mass deportations, whereas Italy's already doing them, and Sweden's already doing them.
Well, they're step one of the little list that I've got coming up, but my example was going to be lockdowns.
If you had gone back to 2018 and explained lockdowns to somebody in 2018, they would have thought it's truly absurd.
And this is the thing.
These ideas are always unimaginable until they start happening, and then it's just imaginable.
It's just fine.
It's normal.
What elites want, they will get.
And remigration, it is inevitable.
It is going to happen.
It's already happening.
Indeed.
And the only question is making the elites want it, and that's a combination of either some circulation of the elites, but actually the existing elites will also do it the moment it's in their interests.
They're already changing to do this.
I mean, Keir Starmer declared that Open Borders was an experiment that was inflicted on us by the Conservatives.
Okay, fine.
It's not like I trust Keir Starmer, but the point is...
I think he will definitely...
I mean, all of his administration are literally...
I mean, he went over to meet Maloney and say, oh, I'm going to take all your advice on how to just essentially get rid of all these illegals.
Good start.
And then there are many more steps to go from that.
But the point is, we're on the right trajectory at this.
And it's the current elites that are doing it.
I mean, even Justin Trudeau was like, we're going to have a pause on immigration.
It's gone too far.
And who would have thought it would be like Keir Starmer and Justin Trudeau?
Five years ago it would have been unthinkable.
Yeah, making a lead on this stuff.
And every argument you can put against it, I'm just saying, if you change the incentive structures, like the one that I always hear is the human rights lawyers.
If you change the incentives for how it operates, the human rights lawyers will fall in line.
So what you could do is you could just put in place a framework for doing remigration fairly.
Safely.
And then they spend all of their time making sure that their clients are re-migrated appropriately and fairly.
And then they don't get paid until the client has been deported.
And they will all fall in line.
And the ones that don't will just wither without funding.
And they'll be replaced by those who are prepared to do it to get the money.
So you are exactly right.
It's all about incentives.
And 99.9% of them will just fall in line immediately as soon as the incentives change.
So I've got a little list here, and you've actually talked about some of these.
And I just want to make the point for the audience that as I go down this list, if you imagine as soon as we achieve each point, how difficult will it be to achieve the next point on the list?
Now, you might not necessarily jump to the last one on the list, but the point is, as you go through them, each incremental step is so small...
That it's not a problem.
So step one, stop the massive inflow.
As you've pointed out, already happening.
Step two, instead of taking people from small boats to hotels to social housing to indefinite leave to remain, just immediately deport them.
Take them back to where they came from.
Yes.
Just literally.
If you came from France, you go back to France.
If you came from wherever, you go back to wherever.
And that happens in every non-Western country today.
That happens immediately now.
And Keir Starmer did do that the very first moment he came in, didn't he?
Did he?
Right.
Yeah, they turned one boat around, but that was it, one boat.
Right.
So that shows they can do it.
Oh, yeah.
And they will do it if they will.
And they will.
Yeah, it's just a matter of deciding to do it.
Like you say...
A question of political will.
Step three, immediately deport the stock of illegal boat people that are already here.
You know, again, it's just nothing difficult about this.
Four, deport those granted indefinite leave to remain who have committed crimes.
Yep.
Deport those who have been granted citizenship who committed crimes.
Yep.
Enforce food standards uniformly.
No halal food anymore.
Just say, OK, no, these food standard safeties, they apply to everything.
There's no carve-outs anymore.
Target HMRC to take a hard look at Turkish barbers, etc.
Enforce policing standards uniformly.
No two-tier anymore.
Again, all of this totally sensible and completely doable.
Yep, and a step at a time, it's just not difficult.
Stop granting welfare and social housing to foreign nationals.
Yep.
Stop granting welfare and social housing to non-citizens with indefinite leave to remain.
Yep.
Stop granting welfare and social housing to anyone who wasn't born here.
Stop granting welfare and social housing to anyone born without British-born grandparents.
The final thing I've got is stop train migration.
If you marry a Brit, your leave to remain lasts as long as the marriage, and as soon as it ends, you have to go.
Sure.
And everything on here is normal outside of the West.
And I haven't even gone particularly far with this.
No, this is very moderate.
I thought it was going to go a lot further.
Yeah.
Well, there are secret clauses.
I was worried I would get in trouble if I carried up to 0.50.
But the point is, you get that far, and you'll turn the current inflow into an outflow.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, this is literally what Sweden has done, or is doing, the process of doing.
And they've got their immigration down to net negative levels.
So it's like, yeah, no, this is all completely possible.
The overpopulation crisis of the West is completely solvable.
We just have to want to solve it.
Stop giving them money, basically, is the key.
Stop bringing them in and giving them money.
That's it.
It's as simple as that, and the in-wash will turn into a trickle-out, and then if you keep it going for long enough and you keep going down the list, it will be a flow-out.
I mean, imagine how many will leave before they just get a letter saying, we're not going to give you any money anymore.
Yes.
Just imagine that.
That'd be millions.
Yeah, at the end of the year, your social housing rights have been removed and you're not getting any welfare.
Yeah.
Tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands will go.
Yeah, because that's why so many of me are in the first place.
Yes.
It's crazy.
So I wanted to leave one, you know, potentially positive note on this otherwise gloomy day.
Well, I've got good and bad.
The good is remigration is inevitable.
It is going to happen.
The only thing I'd say is that when it starts happening, you're just going to be a bit disappointed.
It's going to be a bit meek and mild.
And, you know, Harry and Bo are going to be doing segments like this is remigration in name only and why have only 200,000 people left this year and you're going to be very annoyed.
So you are going to get it.
It's just going to be a bit crap, but it is going to happen.
Listen, Dan, in any mass movement, there needs to be a rightmost edge of radicals pulling everybody else to the right.
Make your own mind.
I would include you in that, to be perfectly honest.
Well, thank you very much, sir.
We travel in some similar circles.
But anyway, with that, let's take a trip to New York.
Hang on a second.
Oh, yes.
Russian says, Dan, bring up the Germans shouting Germany for Germans during a football match.
Minute silence for the victims.
And the stadium began chanting Nazis out in response.
Oh, God.
And I tell you, man, everyone says this about Germans, but it is genuinely true that the Germans...
Everything that is pro-German is Nazi is so close to the surface in the German mind.
It's very difficult for them to get past it.
As soon as the Second World War ended, the Allied governments basically just went, okay, we've got to brainwash you into not being Nazis, and this is the long-lasting effects of that.
And then they went, hmm, this actually...
This really works.
I wonder if the rest of Europe can get this treatment as well.
I spent some time in Germany in my early 20s, and every time I met a German, within the first 10 minutes of knowing them, they would engineer into the conversation that they thought Nazis were bad.
And he was like, I haven't asked.
Yeah, no, I used to be, I used to live out in Germany.
When I was 16, we'd go out into the local town, go drinking.
And you'd sit there, you'd meet some German folks, you'd sit there and talk to them, because they'd all speak English.
And literally, within the course of one pint, we're talking about World War II. And I'm just like, I don't really know anything about World War II. I was 16, I don't care.
You know, I don't think you're responsible for it.
It happened, you know, 60 years ago, whatever it was.
Were they, like, begging your forgiveness?
Well, they, not, not...
It's the Harry Enfield sketch.
That is so true.
They just don't want you to think of them as being like those Germans.
But the thing is, none of us did think of them like those Germans.
Because, of course, they were all decent, good people.
And they were just carrying this baggage.
Yeah.
But you know what's interesting?
The Germans are so unbelievably liberal, it's insufferable.
I had a friend who started dating this girl when he was 13, and he went to stay at a house, and they put them in the same bed at 13. And this is very orphan experiment vibes.
Well, it's German liberalism, right?
These were just normal West German liberals, and this was what they did.
And this was completely normal, and the Germans were insanely open about sex to an embarrassing degree.
I mean, that's always been them, even before the war.
Well, kind of.
But there is a conservative side to that, but the liberal Germans are insane about it.
But anyway, I don't want to get into it.
This is not about Euro trash now.
No, but there's a reason that this stereotype exists.
Sorry, anyway, carry on.
Oh yeah, well, Johnny Logo for $5 said just another tip before Xmas, lads.
Christmas, I should say.
Have a good one.
Thank you very much, Johnny.
Okay, and now let's finish off this merriment and festive cheer that we've had going with a trip to New York.
New York, the most wonderful time of year.
Remember how there used to be, like, Christmas films set in New York?
Home Alone 2, where it's presented as this big, amazing theme park of wonderment.
You can just run into Donald Trump and he'll point you in the right direction if you're looking for something.
What a wonderful Christmas movie.
I know, what a wonderful Christmas time.
Harry, you won't remember the 1990s when the world was just a better place.
I was born in the 1990s.
I know, that's why you don't remember it.
I don't remember them very well, but I do remember things being just slightly more peaceful.
So what kind of stories do you get in New York, New York these days?
Well, nothing good.
Nothing good.
So, most recently, of course, there was the rather happy news of Daniel Penny's acquittal.
Which had all of the sorts of media and activist responses that you would expect, including one of the BLM co-founders shouting that we need black vigilantes in the streets to do something?
But I saw Daniel Penny's acquittal as a good thing.
Sadly, him going to trial in the first place was a bad thing that has lots of negative repercussions come off the back of it, because what was the intended message of taking a man who defended his fellow New York subway riders to court?
What was the message of that?
Well, if you see something and you can get involved, don't.
Yep.
Don't do anything, citizen.
Do not involve yourself.
And the media have been trying to sort of carry on that messaging since then.
Here's just a few highlights of some headlines that I've seen very recently.
Jury acquits Daniel Penny unanimously.
Case reflects crisis of capitalism today.
That's from The Militant.
Not actually on December 30th, because that's in the future.
So this website's not very good, but saying that this is all...
Might be very prescient.
Maybe.
This is all due to capitalism, because of course...
I might make a website like that where I'm just predicting headlines in the future.
Jordan Neely, the fact that he was a mental case, the fact that he was on the streets, was not a fault of terrible medical systems or anything like that, or even his own behaviour, his own actions, being in control of himself choosing to go down the route that he did.
No, it's because of the fact that we didn't have enough socialised medical care in New York to make sure that he was safe, even though he actually was being held in an institution and just left.
Okay, no, I kind of agree.
It kind of, in a way, is a failure of the social contract society.
As in, look, you're going to have a system of enunciated rights and responsibilities, and one of those responsibilities is not intervene with an insane drugged-up psycho on the subject.
Even if he's threatening women and children.
That's not one of them.
There are some states in which they do actually have that.
Not all states have this.
But in some states, you do have an obligation to step in.
And so, like, they impose the social contract and say, look, these are your rights.
Essentially, you don't have to ever deal with any of your fellow citizens.
The government will do it all.
And then stuff like this happens.
And so some of them have to put it, no, you do have to intervene on these.
Oh really, why do we need you at all then?
Why do we need this social contract nonsense?
If essentially what you're trying to do now is reconstruct the traditional society in which men would intervene, like Daniel Penny, which is why all of the traditional-minded people, the right-wing people are like, yeah, no, Daniel Penny's a hero, you psychos, why are you saying this?
I mean, there is also the attitude among many communists that you're just not supposed to allow to be comfortable in a big city.
You're not supposed to be safe.
I don't know if you've seen it.
Actual Justice Warrior refers to the clip a lot, which is one of the presenters that...
Stupid woman from the majority.
Yes, Emma Vigland saying that it was actually very privileged of anybody to assume that if you're taking the subway in New York that you should be able to feel safe.
Which is precisely why when I went to New York in like 2018 and my wife's like, can we go on the subway?
Because she's watched Home Alone too.
I was like, hell no darling!
There's no way!
Because I want to feel privileged and safe!
Yes.
And in New York, it is a privilege to feel safe these days.
So let's see some of the other headlines recently.
Why conservatives condemn Luigi Mangione and celebrate Daniel Penny.
Well, there's a simple reason for that, which is Luigi shot a man in the street.
In cold blood.
In cold blood.
In the back.
In the back.
And Daniel Penny restrained a man who later overdosed.
He was probably going to shoot someone in cold blood.
Or, you know, beat them to death, or do something physical.
I love the fact that that's confusing for a leftist.
I mean, it is Vox.
But it is confusing for a leftist.
You are actually absolutely right.
They are literally like, whoa, these conservatives and their crazy worldviews of protecting innocents and not killing civilians.
There's also another question that all of this brings up, which is, has anybody thought about the feelings of poor old Alvin Bragg?
No?
No.
I love this.
This is a New York Times article.
Why do I care about Alvin Bragg?
As you go through it, it becomes clearer and clearer that it's trying to make the case that Alvin Bragg is being unfairly targeted.
Despite the fact that he brought the case, which should never have been brought in the first place, Is he the Attorney General of New York, right?
Yeah, and evil right-wingers are criticising Alvin Bragg for doing things like, as soon as he assumed the position, saying that New York police officers shouldn't jail people for anything less than, say, murder, robbery of a certain amount of money.
They just don't deal with most crime that affects people on a day-to-day basis.
I mean, is Alvin Bragg's goal to turn New York into Gotham City or something?
Likely.
Is that actually what he's trying to achieve?
Because this is how you do it.
Yeah, probably.
But New York Times wants you to know that this was a real big persecution for Alvin Bragg.
Poor old Alvin.
Poor guy, I know, right?
He should just have free reign to take whoever he wants to court for defending innocent people.
The Guardian went with a pretty typical one.
Daniel Penny's acquittal reveals double standard about white vigilante crime.
What's the double standard?
The double standard is that he should have just let Jordan Neely abuse people.
Because we've got this picture of him from like 13 years ago pretending to be Michael Jackson.
Ah, the sub-headline.
In a long-standing pattern in the US, white killers are celebrated and black victims are denigrated.
Right.
Basically, you just flip it around and then it all makes sense.
I mean, he had just been released from prison late 2023 for abusing...
Well, sorry, late 2022, I think, for abusing old people, like beating up an old lady.
So there's a reason that we're denigrating Jordan Ely, which is that he is a bad person.
I love that you explained it to a child.
Yes.
Yeah, so Jordan Ely was dangerous and bad.
Leftists...
Daniel Penny, hero and save people, therefore good.
Listen, we know from scientific studies that leftists quite literally have brain damage.
That's true.
Because they have atrophied amygdalas, and apparently if you do something with your brain waves, it can make you less religious and more open to immigration.
Oh, I heard that.
Yes, they've got tiny amygdalas, which is the fear part of the brain, so it gets basically...
Yeah, but it gets flooded, it gets filled very, very easily.
So that's why they're constantly afraid of everything and they can't manage risk because the tiny amygdalas just can't handle anything.
Well, it's probably one of the reasons why they're so anxious about everything all the time and refuse to go outside.
But also, if I lived in New York City, maybe I would as well.
And there's this one from The Nation as well.
Trump invites a killer to his luxury box.
Now, again, it wasn't specifically said in the court case, but it's very, very clear when you examine the evidence that was presented by the defence that Jordan Neely died of an overdose and basically heart problems.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I wonder what other cases we've heard.
Well, I know, I know.
History doesn't repeat, but it certainly rhymes.
Yes, and also I just want to give a shout out to this amazing picture here, because like with all of the Donald Trump photos that came from this year, 99% of the Daniel Penny photos make him look like such a badass.
Yeah.
So cool.
They want him to look evil, they're like, oh, cast him in dark light, make sure that you've got the flash so you get a big long shadow of him.
No, this is amazing.
He literally looks like Batman.
If New York is Gotham, then this is Batman taking up the solemn duty to defend his fellow citizens.
It's quite incredible.
So what's the result of all of this narrative that has been pushed on New Yorkers in particular?
As you mentioned at the beginning, Dan, it is, if you see somebody in need, do not help them.
Yes.
Which is the exact opposite of what Daniel Penny has said that he will do, because he said if he had to go through it all over again, he would to help people.
But it's trying to promote antisocial behaviour.
Well, that proves that Daniel Penny is a better man than I, because if I, for some reason, found myself in New York and saw something going on, unless it was somebody that I cared about, I'd walk away.
Well, we don't need Daniel Penney's, actually.
We don't need people to help the fellow citizens of a city like New York, because it's full of cameras.
The subway's full of cameras.
And Kathy, the governor, Kathy Hochul, said that back in March she wanted to make sure that the subways were safer for millions of people who take the trains each day, and since deploying more police officers and more cameras...
Sorry, she's saying since deploying the National Guard?
Yes.
Jesus Christ, how bad must New York Subway be?
And she's added cameras to all subway cars.
Crime is going down.
Ridership is going up.
Yeah, we've turned it into a police state.
Yeah, we've got a positive trend.
You've literally got the National Guard there!
Yeah, but also, just because you've got cameras doesn't mean the crime stops, it just means the crime is...
Oh yeah, but that's what the National Guard are for!
You've literally got armed soldiers standing there going, you're not committing crimes, I guess.
Yeah, but it's not going to be based fire on sight there, is it?
Well, there is one problem with all of this, though, which is that it turns out security cameras and the National Guard can't help when somebody spontaneously combusts.
Oh, good point.
When they just explode into flames for no reason...
Is that a common problem?
I think I'm going to refer to the community note on this one.
Yeah, more and more, it's a common problem that somebody just catches fire.
It's like a Jacob's Ladder scenario where crazy things are just happening to you on the subway because you're in a nightmare world.
Well, actually, that last part is...
Quite true.
You've got to love left-wing media.
They're hanging on by a tendon.
And they think, what can we do because we're hanging on by a tendon?
Oh, I know, we write a headline like that.
This is just like that loud noise that made Donald Trump fall over earlier this year.
Oh, the Magsburg Christmas market attack.
The car drives through Christmas markets.
These rogue cars.
My goodness, was it one of Elon's self-driving Teslas, was it?
No, it wasn't.
It was driven by an immigrant.
Yeah, is this what happened?
Did a woman just randomly catch fire?
Did she set on fire and everyone had a spook and she died?
Is that what it was?
No.
Guess who it was?
It was a Guatemalan migrant who allegedly set her on fire and then just sort of sat around watching.
I saw the footage and it's awful, because she's just standing there.
Was she on drugs or something?
She had been asleep, and I assume, given it's the New York subway, it's the F train line, which, interestingly enough, is the same one where the Jordan Neely-Daniel Penny situation happened.
Yeah, I don't know if she had been on drugs or she was drunk or something.
I do have the link of what happened.
I'm not going to show it because it's pretty horrifying, but if you want to look at it yourself, you can find the link on the website underneath this video.
But yeah, the reaction is strange, but it looked like she was already half-burned to death.
Who is the woman, by the way?
Old or young?
She has not been identified yet.
She was homeless though, wasn't she?
She's not been identified.
She was sleeping on the subway, so I assume she was some kind of homeless drug addict or drunk or something obviously was up with her.
And as a result, if you try and do that, your fellow citizens will just set you on fire.
Well, he's probably illegal, to be honest, isn't he?
Well, yeah, let's read what it says here.
A Guatemalan migrant, I believe his name has been confirmed to be Sebastian Zapata, has been arrested for allegedly lighting a sleeping subway rider on fire in Brooklyn on Sunday morning, then watching as his innocent victim burned to death in what the police commissioner called one of the most depraved crimes one person could possibly commit.
The savage killing happened at about 7.30 a.m.
on an F train, and obviously the commuters were shocked, and the NYPD commissioner, Jessica Teach, said that the heinous crime took the life of an innocent New Yorker.
As the train pulled into the station, the suspect calmly walked up to the victim, and they have all of this on camera.
Yeah, yeah, that's alright.
They have all of this, not just the camera footage that you can find, also obviously the new ones that are on the trains, on the cabins.
She walked up to the victim who was in a seated position at the end of a subway car and used what we believe to be a lighter to ignite the victim's clothing, which became fully engulfed in a matter of seconds.
Why?
They extinguished the blaze, but the victim died at the scene.
Officials said that the 33-year-old He was detained by Border Patrol agents in Arizona in June of that year.
And his legal status wasn't immediately clear on Sunday night.
So it's likely that he's an illegal.
It's entirely possible that this is one of the 13,000 murderers who was released by the Border Patrol into the United States.
Your question as to why, I think, is a good one.
Because to the Anglo mind, if we were thinking about committing a crime, I mean, I could see robbing a bank.
I mean, that would kind of make sense to me.
I'd have a contingency plan to get away with it.
Yeah, but that sort of thing works for the Anglo mind.
If I was going to commit a crime and I was going to commit human sacrifice by setting somebody on the subway light, it would simply never occur to me.
Certainly if it was going to occur to you to do it on an impulse, you wouldn't then decide, well, I'll just sit here, enjoy my handiwork, hang about a bit.
I mean, what did he think was going to be the outcome of this?
Who knows?
Who knows?
Dare we try to look into this man's mind?
You don't understand these people.
You just don't understand them.
You don't think like us.
But he'd actually received transit summons in May 2023, but otherwise had no criminal record in New York City.
And was living at a shelter on Randall's Island at the time of the infraction.
He brazenly sat on a nearby bench as cops huddled around, pulling his hood up at one point just before an officer spoke to him.
Later in the day, they didn't catch him straight away.
He was able to just do all of this and then sit there and even spoke to the police.
But it was later in the day, three high schoolers called the police to say they saw the man pictured in images released from the cameras.
And according to Tiege and the others, that's how they were able to find him.
They found the suspect already on another train leaving the station, wearing the same grey hoodie, wool hat, and paint-splattered pants he'd been wearing when he torched the victim.
Police don't believe the migrant and the victim knew each other before the killing.
And again, the woman has not been identified.
So this guy, casually hanging around, sees a woman sleeping, sets her on fire.
Sets her on fire.
And the worst part of the footage, outside of the fact that obviously you see a poor woman burning to death, is the fact they say, oh, you know, like, the police came and they extinguished the blaze.
You can see in the footage, she's stood in the door of the train carriage.
Police officers walk past without even giving a glance.
And no one around is doing anything.
It takes a little bit, but a few people show up and try to get a coat over her to try and extinguish the flames, all of that stuff.
But everybody is acting remarkably calm.
The thing that I'm still stuck on is the sheer randomness of this.
Did you ever watch Jessica something from Murder She Wrote?
You know, that little old series.
It was an 80s series.
Jessica something would turn up and there'd been a murder.
And then she would logically piece it together because one thing connects to that and that connects to that.
And then she'd have this whole chain of logic.
There's no logical chain to follow here, is there?
But can you imagine Jessica, whatever her name is, turning up to solve one of the modern crimes that we get?
There's no logic.
I kind of want to set myself the challenge over Christmas of coming up with the immigrant version of Cluedo.
I don't know how to take that yet.
Why did he do this?
Yeah, and then you have to come up with a motive at the end as well.
That's going to be the hardest part.
That's going to take longer than a monopoly.
Did he use the lighter on the subway?
Did Mr. Raman Nemesweakos use a lighter on the subway?
I'm thinking of Sherlock Holmes.
It's like, okay, why did Professor Moriarty do this?
He's got a very complex...
But it does just seem completely random.
It's like, okay, Sherlock, good luck.
I haven't played nice brown.
Yeah.
What is this?
Several steps are missing.
What is this bloody motive?
Yeah, so this is another case where, like in the first segment, while we have a better idea in the first segment of the Magdeburg Killer's motives, with this, you really, when you have strangers amongst you who are not of your culture, of your people, you really just don't understand them.
And you can't predict what they're going to do, and oftentimes you just won't be safe around them.
And sadly, in New York, that seems to be how it operates now.
This is part and parcel of living in a modern, diverse, multicultural city, and the incentives that have been put in place by public spectacles like the Daniel Penny trial are that if you do see something, don't do anything.
Because you might get charged, you might get in trouble, your face is going to be the one plastered across all of the newspapers, your name is going to be dragged through the mud.
So are you saying that he was arrested because afterwards he tried to put her out?
No.
Right.
No, he certainly did not.
I see.
Right.
OPH UK says, being set on fire is just part of living in a big city, you bigots.
And Smokey Bongo says, Merry Christmas, lads.
Thank you very much, man.
Merry Christmas.
Hopefully the comments and the videos will be much more entertaining now.
Before we go on though, can we come back to the image of that guy being arrested?
Yeah, yeah.
I can't help but see this as a weirdly anachronistic photo.
He's wearing his New York t-shirt, but he looks like he should be wearing Aztec feathers.
It's a human sacrifice.
He looks very Aztec-y.
And maybe he was.
Maybe, yeah.
Honestly, no motive, no connection to the victim, just does it on a whim, sets somebody on fire.
Maybe this is some kind of weird pagan ritual.
It's just encoded into the DNA, must commit human sacrifice.
I don't know about necessarily the DNA aspect, but like...
I just don't know.
The way he looks, he looks out of time to me.
I don't know.
But anyway, don't put that on the YouTube clip.
Editors, you best not do that.
My physiognomy analysis.
Anyway, let's carry on.
Let's go with video comments.
You should coin a term for your measure of economic success, which should be like, I don't know, reality-based.
I really like this idea, so I worked up what I think is a good measure for inflation.
Based on things that you cannot live without, fuel especially, since any product that has been transported will require fuel.
Not sure I believe the current average wage either.
I didn't look into them, but to make this reality-based, I thought of a few metrics that could be factored in.
At the bottom was a suggested name that I quite liked.
Hmm.
There's merit to that.
I'll take a deeper look at that.
But 500% since 1980 seems...
Yeah, seems about right.
I'll take a deeper look, but yeah, that looks good.
No trigger time in this one.
It was just a nice afternoon to take the dog and the shotgun out for a walk in the woods.
When the snow cleared up, we had a bald eagle circle overhead for a little while, which was pretty cool.
In any case, Merry Christmas, Lotus Eaters.
Very endearing.
I assume this is Canada.
It looks lovely.
Yeah, what a nice place.
Merry Christmas to you two.
To everyone at the Lotus Eaters, and to all of you wonderful people at home who watch the Lotus Eaters, wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
May 2025 be a much better year for us all.
And God bless you all.
Thank you, Sam.
Thanks.
Very nice.
And I will just say to you all, I am not basic-based.
So you took that personally and commissioned that video.
Did you guys get it?
I think it was Californian Refugees started ranking us on some tier table.
And I always put the sodding bottom.
Sodding bottom, basic based.
Soggy bottom.
Don't take it personally.
Oh, no.
Why would I take that personally?
Where did you end up?
I'm not on there yet.
Honestly, judging how it's going right now, I'm not saying this to big myself up.
I'm expecting Josh and I to be the highest.
Man, all this talk of groomers just makes me want to film some wholesome content.
Here's my dog, Sakura.
She just came back from the groomers.
Yes, when you have a Shiba Inu, Shiba Inus shed twice a year, usually for six months at a time.
So without the groomers, let me tell you, she sheds enough we could stuff a duvet.
Very cute though.
My dog sheds.
You're supposed to use this grooming brush thing every day, but we can never be bothered with that, so we just end up running the vacuum clean all over the place.
I thought you were going to say over the dog.
There we go.
I hadn't thought of that.
There are loads of comments which are happy Merry Christmas comments.
Merry Christmas to you guys as well.
Baron Von Warhawk says this guy is extremely disturbing for the first one.
He was in the West since 2006 was a doctor and for the most part he was seen as someone who wasn't religious yet he still decided to plough a truck into 200 people.
Which implies that every single one of them who comes to Europe is essentially a sleeper agent that can attack at any time.
The thing is, I don't want to say that, obviously, because I don't think it's entirely fair, but he definitely had a kind of mindset that is just alien to the West.
And he can say, well, now I'm doing it for atheism.
Okay, it's the plowing people into...
plowing cars into people that's the problem, right?
Well, instead of, like, Allah Huakbar, he can say, for Fauci!
Yeah, exactly.
It's like...
It's a bit like, I've been on holiday and had a full English breakfast in Turkey and in Thailand, and on both occasions it was absolutely nothing like a full English breakfast.
It was this weird parody of it.
It's the same concept.
Russian says, is there a terrorist the BBC won't have promoted?
Yes.
I think people should start, like, Minority Report style, going back through old BBC puff pieces and finding terrorists.
Because they will be in there.
It's like Tom Cruise, a Minority Report.
He's just reading the BBC. He's got suspicious physiognomy.
The future terrorists will be being interviewed by a future nonce.
No, current nonce.
Past present.
Yes.
Anyway, the palest son of Yacoub says, no atheist immigration.
It's what John Locke would have wanted.
Yeah, if we're going to be centre-right classical liberals, we need to take this stuff really seriously.
Yeah.
Arm the entire populace, kill all of the atheists.
Yeah.
I'm willing to convert.
I'm so sorry.
Okay.
I am more than willing to convert.
You best convert quick.
The thing is, I think what's really holding me back is a good cause, right?
It's like, look, we're going on a crusade.
I'm like, you know what?
I think I take the cross up.
I'm actually up for this.
All right.
So give me a reason.
Well, what about the original reason to reclaim Europe?
What?
That wasn't the original reason to convert to Christianity.
Oh, Crusade, I thought you said.
Oh, right, yeah.
Well, it wasn't Europe, it was the Middle East.
I think it started with reclaiming Europe.
No, it started in Jerusalem.
It ended up being reclaiming Al-Andalus.
And for various other reasons.
There was a really long build-up to it when they were still in Europe.
Initially it was about reclaiming Jerusalem.
Yeah, the original purpose was reclaiming Europe, but by the time they actually got around to it, But the point is, you know, like, raising the cross above certain important historic places, you know, I'd be up for that.
I'd be up for that.
I think that's a worthy cause.
Very important financial backers wouldn't want you raising a cross over there.
You don't have to convince me, Carl.
I'm already in.
Warlord Wututai says, I wonder if the Arab mindset there exists a difference between a Western country's government and its people.
Well, that's the thing, isn't it?
This guy wasn't distinguishing between the government and the people.
And so, like you said, Harry, he just viewed it as an existential other that he was taking advantage of.
It's us versus them.
Them, as ever, are a bunch of suckers who need to give me what I want.
And if they don't, then I'm just going to plough through them all.
That's literally what he was saying.
And it's like, okay, well, we can take him at his word on that, I think.
I don't see why we impute any doubt to it.
But he points out, you know, so he punishes the citizenry for the actions of the state.
Yes, that's exactly what he seems to have done.
Derek says, remember that everyone has a religion, regardless of whether you think you have one or not.
The question is, what fruits does it bear, and are they good or not?
Bay State says, there is another explanation, accelerationism.
He might want to provoke Europe to react harshly by clamping down on Muslim infiltration by staging one himself.
Well, maybe, but that's just not his given reason, and we'd have to assume that.
Yeah, he's left a very detailed trail for his own beliefs and views for it to be staging a fake Muslim attack.
Well, this is why I don't believe the Takir thing.
It's like, no, I think, you know, ten years and you set up an NGO... And you sit there going, the German government is not looking after these Arab ex-Muslim women, therefore I'm going to attack them.
I mean, I don't think he's lying.
I think he's mental.
Justin says, we need sponsorship for immigrants.
Anyone who stops an immigrant from being deported after they commit a crime will, if the immigrant commits further crimes, suffer the same punishment.
Yeah, like some sort of...
Uh, relation, like feudal relation.
They're saying, this is your bondsman now.
You know, like Gary Lineker, these are your bondsmen.
You are responsible for these men.
And so, whatever they do, the ultimate responsibility lies on you.
Is that the medieval notions?
Yes.
Because I knew it used to be the case that, I mean, the job of an innsman, if a traveller came to town and stayed at an inn, the innsman was responsible if that person committed any crime.
Yes.
So why not, exactly, just bring that system back.
And if you're a leftist and you support immigration...
Right.
These three are your responsibility.
And if they commit any crime, you're doing the time as well.
Arizona Desert Rat says, was Saudi Arabia even involved in a conflict in 2016?
No.
Saudi Arabia, I mean, unless they were bombing Yemen back then, but I don't think they were.
But no, the refugee status comes from them being an Islamic country and he being like, oh, I'm an ex-Muslim.
It's like, okay, well, what does Islam do to ex-Muslims?
Well, we don't want to talk about that.
That's Islamophobic.
Anyway.
Omar says, you can understand the motives of someone like Luigi Magnioni.
The target is at least tangentially related to his predicament.
To be able to attack innocent kids and families shows the boundaries of their in-slash-out group circles doesn't include the West.
Exactly.
He might not consider Muslims to be his in-group, but he considers them to be part of the human circle.
Well, ex-Muslims, that's the thing, is the issue.
So Arabs, essentially, is what he was in favour of.
Like, Arab non-Muslims.
I want as many of them in the West as possible.
For their own good, not for our good.
The rest of us are propositional humans, and second, he disagrees with the proposition, tribal consequence from tribal humans.
Yeah, Jimbo says, well, at least we found one of those doctors we hear so much about.
Well, yeah, that was the thing.
It's like, you know...
We're bringing over doctors.
It's like, okay, well now one of the doctors has gone on a terrorist attack.
Oh, it's a bit more than one.
Did you see my tweet?
No.
I put out one on basically the list of doctors who have committed terrorist attacks.
There's a whole list of them.
Oh, is there?
Yeah.
Wasn't there also a report as well recently that 60% of all doctors sexually assaulting patients in the NHS are foreign?
There was.
There was, actually.
Lord Nerevar says, Well, like Dan pointed out in his segment, things are happening and we are going in the direction that is necessary.
It's just how many people are going to have to die to get to that point when we could have begun there just using a bit of common sense and basic reasoning.
Yes, not being left-hards 20 years ago would have solved all of this.
Yeah, basically.
And that is really what it boils down to.
It's like, yeah, no, they're all just blank slate humans, bro.
It's like, are they, though?
Dr. David says, if only Hitler had thought to check Dr. Mengele's qualifications.
Maybe you did.
Santa is a Mossad informant using Palantir to spy on children says, I will have no bad words against Santa.
The bacon test is actually the origin of tapas.
You'll test if someone is a moor by offering them little bits of pork and wine.
I have been told this before.
I didn't know that.
That's interesting.
I have been told that.
So I've reinvented tapas, except better.
Yeah, because it's English.
Because it's Anglo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What are you doing giving me these tiny, rubbish little portions?
If you're going to feed me, feed me a full meal.
So have you got any brown sauce?
It makes me think better with tapas, though.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, obviously, yeah.
But no, that's genuinely hilarious.
Like, go to a country, all right, you've got to drink this milk and eat this bacon sandwich.
Like, Brilliant.
Amazing.
That's the kind of attitude they're looking for.
Exactly.
Well, yeah, exactly.
I'd be a model immigrant.
The illegal truth says...
You'd be like Tom Hanks in that film Airport, where he just goes around and around and around all the time.
Haven't we already fed you four times already, sir?
No, it must have been somebody else.
You're a racist.
Just claws and a bigger moustache every time.
Illegal Truth says, the local Church of England where I live are appealing on Facebook for Christmas presents for Muslims being processed at the local army camp where four of them are a few weeks ago were involved in the rape of a child.
You can't make this up.
We're living in Clambod.
Yeah, I mean, point out, well, they don't celebrate Christmas, so...
And I saw the other day someone posting, why do we want Muslims in Britain, blah, blah, blah...
And the dunk, the uber dunk that this Muslim came back with was like, so you can get taxis and delivery on Christmas Day.
I don't want those.
But we don't need taxis and deliveries on Christmas Day.
You should be spending Christmas Day at your family's home eating turkey.
First things first.
One, you shouldn't be getting these things on Christmas Day anyway.
Second, we've got plenty of atheists who are prepared to work on Christmas Day.
Shut up.
Thirdly, That's no excuse?
No, I do remember in the 90s, you couldn't get anything on Christmas Day.
All the shops were closed, apart from the corner shops.
Until the 80s, Sundays, shops had to be closed.
Yeah.
I think it was the mid-80s where they allowed shops to become open on Sundays.
If you remember really far back, shops used to close on Wednesday afternoon.
They probably did.
I don't remember that far back.
Old.
Yeah, but the point is, better civilisation, but you can get your Christmas delivery by Abdul.
What you need to order is whatever you need to put onto little hats in order to make them stick.
I'm pretty sure there is a product that does that.
I mean, there must be, but I'm not aware of it.
I'll ask my friend I got this off.
Justin says, Germany is a country that has been mass brainwashed into needing to attend for the past.
Well, yeah.
It's what people are trying to set us up for with the international slave trade.
Yes, that is true.
And this is why we literally have to just ignore it.
Matthew says, should men take the risk that their life will be ruined for protecting people against an attacker in an area that might charge them as a vigilante?
Well, obviously, that's why people don't want to do it.
But the Daniel Penny case is at least fairly heartening in regard that...
And this happened a few years ago with the home invasion in Britain, where essentially the government was trying to make it illegal to defend your own house, and everyone got pissed off.
Oh, yeah.
Because this old guy had stabbed this...
I remember this case, yeah.
He died, and the government was like, well, you're under arrest.
And everyone was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
No, and thankfully he got let off and everything was fine.
Screwdriver?
I thought it was the farmer with a shotgun.
Oh, no, that was a different one.
That was a teenager who was trying to break into his barn.
So he was like, nobody breaks into my barn.
Bang!
And the parents were like, oh, they killed myself.
Well, why was he breaking into someone's barn?
But the guy was literally like, it was an old guy, he was in his 60s, and essentially this guy attacked him with a screwdriver, and he managed to get the screwdriver and stab him with it, and the guy died.
And it's like, okay, well then, boo-hoo.
What the hell are you doing in this house, attacking with a screwdriver?
But anyway, so the point being, hopefully Daniel Penny is an example to brave men of goodwill.
He is an example anyway.
Well yeah, but there will be a precedent going forward that if you are in defence of people and you save some people from a dangerous lunatic, you will not actually go to jail over that.
And I think that's about all we've got time for.
Unless you want to carry on?
No, no.
I found out how you make the little hat stay in place.
Thank you very much.
I'll bear that in mind.
I looked it up for you.
Thank you very much.
And thank you all very much for spending the year with us, for helping to support us and carrying on watching.
We really appreciate every single one of you out there.
We hope you, from the bottom of our hearts, have a very, very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
We'll see you in January.
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