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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #959

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 18th of July 2024.
	I am joined by Harry.
	Hello.
	Jack spiked the podcast today.
	He told us not to look at the Nicocado Avocado OnlyFans leaks, which I didn't know existed.
	So thanks for putting that in my mind.
	If you don't know who he is, he's a giant fat guy.
	He's a big fat fatty bastard.
	Off to a good start today.
	And Harry's talking about Destiny being banned.
	I'm talking about blacks voting for Trump.
	And then you're doing something else, aren't you?
	What's that again?
	Something or other.
	This is a great start.
	The roles have reversed.
	That thing.
	Yes.
	Where we're talking about cancel culture.
	It's so terrible the rules are being applied both ways now.
	I can't believe this.
	My goodness.
	This is very unprincipled of us.
	And even enforcement of rules?
	We can't be having that.
	No.
	This isn't what the right stands for.
	No it's not.
	And speaking about what the right doesn't stand for.
	Before that though, just to psych you out.
	Almost got me.
	We're still doing the rumble thing, so if you want to send us rumble comments, we will read them after the segment.
	Make sure they're relevant to what we're talking about.
	And also, is Calvin's Common Sense Crusade on after this?
	I assume so, yes, it is according to Jack, so watch that!
	Yeah, cheers Harry!
	You're welcome!
	And, to the next studio!
	Alright, so there's been a bit of controversy around everybody's favourite Twitch, well, formerly Twitch, now Kickstreamer, now formerly Kickstreamer, Destiny, which is that he's been making some rather improper and disgusting comments.
	I'm not going to go with all of the moral outrage that everybody else has because I've already gone through that.
	This has been going on since Saturday, since the attempted Trump assassination, and since Corey Comparatore died.
	And Destiny has been using the death of Corey Comperatore as a means to rage bait, as a means to dance on his corpse so that he can get engagement and so that he can let everybody know how he really feels about conservatives, which shouldn't really be surprising to everybody because Destiny has said for a long time that he hates conservatives and has said a few times over the years before January 6th as well because we'll get on to his reasoning for why he's happy or at least
	Not sad that an innocent firefighter died.
	He's using that as the reason.
	But before January 6th, he's been saying this for a very long time.
	And I think I want to dispel a few things here.
	First of all, being that Destiny was never, ever, ever the reasonable liberal that he was always made out to be.
	He was always the guy who's on Twitch who was considered to be on the left, who people could speak to and have reasonable conversations with because he was willing to hear out the other side.
	No, he wasn't.
	Everybody knew his debate tactics going all the way back to JonTron, where JonTron was saying things that at the time were considered very controversial, but thankfully now I think we're all at a point where we can listen to what JonTron was saying about demographic replacement, about crime statistics, about all sorts of things, and go, he was being reasonable.
	Well, we talk about that stuff on the podcast all the time.
	Absolutely.
	And rightfully so, because these are things that we need to be talking about.
	Destiny went out of his way to try and make JonTron look bad, and Destiny went out of his way to try to make it seem that the things that JonTron was talking about were either ridiculous or racist.
	Not happening.
	So, to sort of build on what you were saying, I know that lots of right-wingers were giving Destiny credit.
	It seems weird to call him Destiny, you know.
	Benelli.
	Mr. Benelli.
	Mr. Benelli, that's better.
	But when he talked about the Kyle Rittenhouse case and he said, well, yeah, it seems like self-defense, just like, wow.
	So he said one thing that conservatives roughly agreed with.
	That was my initial introduction to him.
	And yeah, from having no experience of him to that makes it does seem like, oh, OK, he is reasonable, but everything that comes afterwards makes it clear that he's not.
	Mm-hmm.
	The other thing that's been going on over the past two years, we've addressed it on the podcast a few times, is his failed relationship with his now ex-wife, his second ex-wife, you know you're doing well in life if you have two of those, where he had an open relationship and he was going on podcasts talking about red pill and saying that his open relationship works for him and how it's amazing and how Nothing bad would ever happen because he was so amazing and awesome that Melina wasn't going to leave him, even if he let her go out and sleep with a number of guys.
	Then an emotionally damaged Swedish twink decided that he was going to say, no, you have to stick with me.
	And she was in love.
	She was in love and left him for it.
	But at least she got the green card first.
	So she got everything she needed out of that relationship.
	But there's a few other things I wanted to point out through this, which is that I've made comments of this before.
	Destiny is essentially the id of the left.
	How the mainstream media pundits think is what he says.
	He's just stupid enough to say it out loud because he thinks that he can get away with it, but we're finding out that in one way or the other, conversation is shifting to a point where rules may be actually getting applied evenly and fairly, which means that the same way that I couldn't come out and say, I'm glad that so-and-so was attempted to be killed, Or I'm not sad that this person killed Let's Make Jokes that try and encourage people to commit more violence but then say, oh, they're a joke.
	You can't do that.
	You can't do that.
	And the other thing as well is that if we're talking about how the mainstream media Ginned up fear of Trump, comparing him to Hitler, comparing him to a dictator, saying that January 6th was the worst thing to ever happen in American history.
	They're also referring to Trump supporters as traitors and, you know, not patriots and people that are going to do the country harm, they're going to destroy democracy.
	We've heard it all, haven't we?
	Essentially claiming that they're treasonous, which used to be an offence punishable by death, So they created the atmosphere where it made the shooting more likely to happen, much more likely to happen, especially when you've had eight years.
	That guy, Thomas Crooks, who committed the shooting, who's thankfully dead now, he was 12 when it started, when all of that started back in 2016.
	So from the age of 12 to 20, eight years, he was marinating in a culture Almost groomed into it, one might say.
	Yeah, that told him that Trump was going to be the worst thing that ever happened to American history.
	Destiny is part of that.
	Destiny has been pushing that narrative for a very long time, even in more recent debates that he's been having against people who clearly know a lot more about the situation and legal matters than him.
	You know, people who are lawyers and have practiced law in America before, that being people like Glenn Greenwald and Ben Shapiro.
	Destiny has still been sounding this bell.
	He's been hitting the bell and he's been going, Jancic, insurrection.
	If Trump gets in again, he'll never leave office.
	It was violence.
	It was trying to destroy the American democracy, etc., etc.
	So we have to include him in our lineup of people who created this atmosphere.
	So to get on to it, so what started all of this was originally on Saturday, he said that he was conflicted about what happened with the Trump shooting.
	Then people said, how are you conflicted?
	Can you not just condemn it outright?
	Then he said, oh, I'm not conflicted.
	Actually, what I mean by that is, etc., etc.
	And then he goes on to start making jokes about it to try and rage bait.
	If we learned anything today, I hope it's realizing the importance of principles.
	If you have a firearm, you need to spend more time at range practicing it.
	So yeah, he's obvious.
	He knows he's not smart, but he's smart enough to know that that is going to get a reaction that isn't going to be positive.
	I think he's been around long enough to know what kind of reaction it's going to get, and he's doing it on purpose.
	Yes.
	It's sort of like a level of bad faith to this that, you know, it's no longer just you're saying it as a joke, you're not being a comedian, you're just trying to be spiteful and incite violence on people.
	At the end of the day, if you were to ask me, does Destiny actually wish that Thomas Crooks had been a better shot in taking out Trump?
	Yes.
	Yes, I do believe that Destiny wishes that were the case.
	As mentioned, he did interviews with Ben Shapiro, debates with Ben Shapiro.
	This one was more cordial because he was on the Lex Freedman podcast and Lex Freedman, to his credit, is so slow and boring a speaker that he actually tends to slow everybody else down.
	So a debate between Ben Shapiro and Destiny was actually tolerable and listenable.
	Even though I'm not a huge Ben Shapiro guy, Ben Shapiro absolutely rinsed him because Destiny had no idea what he was talking about other than having one or two little factoids here to try and propel his emotional reasoning when he was coming from the foundation with Donald Trump is evil and tried to destroy the country and tried to destroy democracy.
	It is worth mentioning that Ben Shapiro, not historically the biggest fan of Trump, either.
	So if Shapiro, who, you know, his personal feelings aside, can still make a better defense in a debate, kind of suggests that Destiny really doesn't know what he's talking about, does it?
	Well, Shapiro went onto it and he said, no, I don't believe the election was stolen from Trump.
	No, I don't believe that Trump should have tried to delay the transfer of power through looking at the electorates and seeing what was going on and trying to find extra votes for himself.
	But what happened on January 6th does not, in any legal way, qualify as an insurrection.
	It does not qualify for insurrection, it does not qualify for any sort of criminal charges against Donald Trump for doing anything other than giving a rousing speech to an audience and saying to go and protest peacefully.
	I mean, that much is entirely obvious, that latter part.
	To anyone with a functioning pair of eyes and ears, But of course Destiny was still hitting the drum and since this has all gone down Destiny has been still featured on one media appearance but it seems that it was more for the sake of denouncing him publicly than having a real discussion about it because Destiny went on to Piers Morgan and Again, credit to Piers Morgan.
	Piers Morgan used the whole thing as an opportunity to tell him, by the way, you're a disgusting person.
	You're absolutely despicable for making these sorts of comments.
	And that's coming from Piers Morgan as well.
	Yeah.
	Destiny is constantly talking about how, well actually, Donald Trump is the most divisive president ever, while Destiny is fueling that division within the country himself.
	So, it's incredibly hypocritical of him, it's incredibly emotional of him, and it comes from a place of seething, nasty resentment.
	It's not even true.
	I mean, there was a US Civil War.
	I mean, it hasn't got to quite that point yet, has it?
	No, not quite yet, no.
	And he was saying, Piers Morgan, rightfully said you're somebody who seems almost gleeful to a young firefighter.
	In fact, let's just play a bit of the clip. - When you are in a world where conservatives can say anything.
	- No, I'm not a conservative. - They can have any conspiracy theories.
	- I'm not a conservative. - They can do any of these things.
	And then liberals are supposed to sit here and be like, "Oh my God, it's so tragic." Absolutely.
	Let me explain my position, because I'm not a conservative.
	I'm not on either side in your race, right?
	Here's what I think about what you did.
	You'd like to fire off, as you've done so far in this debate, about your fury at how disgusting Republicans are, how inhumane they are, how they never have any empathy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And then you yourself You actually are exactly the person that you're describing.
	You are inhuman.
	You are somebody who seems almost gleeful that a young firefighter with a family, with a wife and children, who he was protecting as he was shot dead, that he deserved what was coming to him because he went to a President Trump rally, a man who was President of the United States until recently for four years and maybe again.
	You sound almost gleeful, Destin, and I'm sorry, that makes you, frankly, despicable.
	I don't think I'm gleeful about anything.
	I don't think anybody should die.
	I don't think anybody deserves to die.
	But you want to talk about gleeful?
	Look at the conservative response to Pelosi's husband when they broke in.
	Of course, and he immediately deflects.
	That's true.
	I never thought I'd say this and please for the love of...
	You know, all that is holy.
	Do not clip this, but I wholeheartedly agree with Piers Morgan here.
	I know.
	Strange times, strange bedfellows.
	But also take note of his tweedy twig arms right there.
	This is something that should always be noted which is that people like Destiny are not coming from a place of principle, they are not coming from a place of reason and logic, they are coming from a place of Seething a priori resentment because of the fact that they have to look in the mirror every morning when they wake up and remember that they're them and they hate you for being you.
	Carrying on, so Piers Morgan had him on.
	Other people who've spoken to him recently don't seem to be so eager from this point.
	So Jordan Peterson came out and condemned him saying that you shouldn't be conflicted.
	I thought you were a representative of the youthful progressive left.
	But it doesn't seem that you should be representing anybody.
	Constantine Kissin and Trigonometry also had him on recently as well.
	Responded to this when somebody said this guy is as toxic as Nick Fuentes.
	Hopefully we won't see him on respectable podcasts or debates anymore.
	You sure won't see him on mine.
	This led to itself a little bit of a cascade where they got into a bit of it and Constantine did the obvious thing which was Dude, you let your wife get railed by other guys, and you were happy about it, you bragged about it, you bragged that apparently this made you a better boyfriend and husband than you would be if you hadn't let your wife sleep with other men.
	I mean, she married him for a green card and was sleeping with other men and then left him.
	I mean, who could have predicted that?
	Sounds like you got scammed, mate.
	That's what it sounds like to me.
	Destiny responds, I'd rather watch my wife get railed 10,000 times over than betray family in Ukraine by throwing them under the bus to win an internet debate, you coward, spineless F. Next time you moderate a debate, brush your teeth so we don't have to smell Putin's load on your mother.
	Are you accusing Constantine Kissin of being a Putin shill?
	He doesn't know his British politics too well, does he?
	This isn't material to this segment, but Constantine Kissin is a Ukraine war hawk, as far as I can tell.
	That's his own views, that's his principles, and he stands by them.
	So this is a ridiculous accusation to make.
	Also, when I first read that, I couldn't believe what I was reading.
	I actually burst out into laughter.
	It takes a lot to do that these days.
	I know.
	It takes a big man to admit that he enjoys watching his wife get raped by 10,000 guys in a row, I assume.
	You know, form an orderly queue.
	If Destiny ever gets married again, you know, form an orderly queue.
	It's going to be the most attended wedding on his little...
	He's gonna be sat on the stool in the corner watching.
	Is it prima nocta where the king gets to bed the wife?
	Well, Destiny is really taking that to a whole new level.
	I mean, he's quite the jester, so it only makes sense.
	And then you had this.
	Dom Lucre posted this.
	Now, remember, this is the guy calling you a beta cook online when you post right-wing opinions.
	So, there are worse, somehow, photos of Destiny's... It looks like a lobster without a shell on it.
	It's like in Futurama when Zoidberg loses his outer shell as well.
	I mean, I thought I was pale, but that's going above and beyond.
	I wish I had a pair of sunglasses on me, do I?
	No.
	I never knew that a man held together by papier-mâché joints could stand up for quite so long, and on sand as well, so we need to...
	Give him a round of applause for that one.
	Well done, Destiny, for going outside.
	So, of course, Destiny found some of Comparator's old tweets and said, this is the effing retard that got killed at the Trump rally, effing LMAO, making jokes about it.
	He originally responded to a Lauren Southern tweet, which has since been deleted, saying that he wasn't sad.
	That this guy died.
	So, completely disgusting, despicable behavior all around.
	And as a result, Dom Lucra said, is this not going against all of your hate speech terms and conditions on the website?
	Why are there still advertisements on here?
	Because typically, advertisers, as many on the right wing have found out, don't like their adverts placed next to certain types of content.
	So Elon comes out and says, yep, Yeah, you're right, actually.
	This isn't suitable for it.
	So then Destiny tries to throw out the, uh, what about Muffree speech, though?
	Aren't you being a hypocrite?
	Who cares?
	Yeah, no one cares.
	You're despicable.
	If I was an advertiser, I wouldn't want my brand associated with you at all.
	It's just clear.
	And he, you know, keeps trying to hammer this button.
	It's not particularly effective.
	And he's also come out as just saying that he has no values whatsoever.
	Big surprise where somebody pointed out... He's talking about money more than anything.
	Yeah, Trump's going... Now remember as well that this is a man when he was asked, if it was your parents, who you've said before are conservative, who had been on those bleachers and been shot, would you still be making these jokes?
	Destiny came out and said, well, it'd be less end of life costs for me.
	You're a millionaire!
	You're a millionaire!
	You shouldn't have to worry about that kind of thing.
	What's the point of earning millions if you can't look after your ancestors and your descendants?
	Well, the reason that most people do anything is for the benefit of their family, and if he's talking spitefully about his own family, that explains where he's gone wrong.
	It's the thing that is, to sound a bit Christian almost, it is the sort of rock in which you base your morality and your relationship with the transcendent, isn't it?
	Yes and certainly this is all coming from the place not of principle but of again the fact that he just has an irrational hatred burning hatred in his heart for people who are ideologically conservative or right-wing and he says as much on a recent stream that he did where he was talking to people on a twitter space and he ended up screaming at them and then after afterwards says this if i go to about
	Way the fuck over it, okay?
	If you are, uh... Listen.
	We've been too nice, okay?
	I know that I've picked up some conservative fans, okay?
	Over the past few years.
	Just know that if you end up at one of these protests, okay?
	I'll be tweeting about you, alright?
	I need all of you to get the fuck out.
	I know I got more.
	I know I've got more than a thousand of you, okay?
	You are disgusting, anti-American, anti-patriotic fucks, and you are the cancerous rot that is destroying my fucking country, okay?
	That's what I think about you.
	That's what I'm gonna think about you if you—if something happens to you at an event, if something happens to all of your fucking whatever, I'm gonna say—I'm gonna tweet that, and I'm gonna have a jolly old time, okay?
	Don't forget it.
	I'm not joking.
	I'm not being unhinged.
	Well, I might be unhinged, but I'm not joking.
	I'm not gonna change my mind tomorrow, okay?
	Don't ever fucking forget this, okay?
	It does sound unhinged though.
	It also sounds a bit... it doesn't sound like he's actually... he sounds like he's speaking with a voice.
	I don't know whether... He's trying to sound intimidating and I can understand when you weigh probably about 100 pounds soaking wet and probably maybe come up to my... the bottom of my shoulder why you would need to affect a voice to sound intimidating.
	But when somebody tells you who they are, believe them, right?
	This is a man who has said outright that if you are a conservative fan of his, he will laugh and celebrate at your death if you were to get caught in the crossfire as an attempted political assassination.
	Isn't Destiny originally from Cuba?
	That's what people are saying in the chat here.
	I think he's part Cuban.
	His country?
	Okay.
	He's half.
	He was born in America.
	And again, the idea that somebody like Destiny, who has again tried to humiliate JonTron for sounding the alarm bell on The Great Replacement, believes that America is essentially a pit stop for all the peoples of the world to extract welfare resources, can say that anybody else is anti-American and anti-patriotic.
	is absolutely laughable and once again he's been he's been using the excuse since this all started of the insurrection The man you're supporting tried to lead an insurrection against the country!
	He tried to insurrect the government!
	He tried to form a coup!
	The most armed people in the world didn't bring any arms and also stayed behind the velvet ropes in the Capitol.
	And the man who they were supposedly doing it on behalf of, as soon as he ran out of legal means to challenge the results, peacefully exchanged power with Joe Biden.
	Yeah, I mean, when did it happen?
	This is an argument he's been making for years at this point and he's never been convincing with it, but now that he can use it to try and justify why he's dancing on the grave of a hero, this is what he does.
	He just pulls it out of his back pocket because it's all emotional, justified reasoning with this one point or two so that he can try and say, actually, I'm not a bad person for doing this.
	And remember as well, Each of these posts is getting thousands of likes.
	Some of these have got 20,000 likes.
	So unless he's doing a classic and botting the likes, which I wouldn't put past him, but still, this is going to be reflective of a significant portion of at least the American population and the international population as well.
	Which is that if you wear a MAGA hat and take a bullet, you deserve it.
	Essentially.
	Because Donald Trump bad, because I am totally rational, come up with all of my own opinions, and I read this on Well, the New York Times.
	He also posted, Hasan Piker, an old enemy of his, but at least they can unite on this, where he's saying, oh it's concentration camps, border control is concentration camps, having an actual country that isn't a pit stop for welfare leeches across the world, well, is evil.
	One would presume that Republicans would rather they not cross the border at all, so even if there were these purported camps, which don't exist, they're processing facilities, Um, they would rather it not even get to that point.
	They would rather them stay in their own country, which is the position of pretty much everyone who's anti-immigration.
	Pretty sensible.
	But of course this is fascist, because he pointed out that the Mexicans coming across the border, you can't vet them, you don't know who they are, there are a significant number of rapists and murderers, because a lot of them are going to be associated with cartels, Well, if you're breaking the law by breaking in, then you've probably broken the law before.
	You've set precedent for yourself, haven't you?
	The first act of getting into the country, even getting into the country, was breaking the law.
	Well, great, I can't trust you.
	You come to my front door.
	If you knock and I let you in, great.
	If you bash the door down, I'm grabbing a knife.
	Because I don't know what the hell you're gonna do after that.
	Simple as that.
	And then he tries to turn it all into, um...
	Palestine.
	He's kind of going through all the leftist stages of cope.
	And this is a guy who's been an Israel shill for months now even though he, before October 7th, couldn't find it on a map.
	And has actively said that Israel should genocide Palestinians.
	He's now trying to morally grandstand...
	Oh, uh, what's this?
	Oh, it's, um, uh, live footage from Melina's bedroom right now.
	Um... Is that from Always Sunny?
	Yeah, that was from Always Sunny.
	Uh, he's trying to morally grandstand, saying, ah, well, people left along with my Palestinian tweets, so why do you care so much?
	Responding to people on Reddit, saying, you know, like, I'm a fan, but this is kind of disgusting.
	My friend's mum was there and got spattered with blood.
	Destiny saying, tell your friend and his mum to get effed.
	You sound like a reasonable person.
	And again, January 6th is not where this all started.
	Destiny wasn't a reasonable person before then, and realized out of nowhere that, oh my goodness, I've come to a logical conclusion.
	I hate these people now because of January 6th.
	Here's a few clips from well before then.
	I hope.
	I hope there's a civil war, dude.
	I want to see fucking Trump supporters getting fucking shot in this country, because you guys are fucking crazy.
	Could you imagine watching Nunes' eyes pop out of his fucking head when they fucking hang him on TV?
	Nothing would make me happier.
	Oh my god, I would fucking jerk off.
	I would save the- I would never need to browse porn again.
	If I had a live video feed of Nunes being killed for crimes against his fucking- Says a lot about the man, though.
	That's the first thing you think of.
	You genuinely do hate conservatives, don't you?
	Very much so.
	Like, I've moved full on to the political violence level, or the real violence level, when it comes to conservative people.
	Yeah, I think they need to be, like, excised from my fucking country.
	I think they are demonstrably fucking evil people, by any moral system that most people would use.
	And then I just hate them because they tend to destroy the outcomes related to this country, which is what I'm concerned with, yeah.
	Absolutely.
	Oh yeah, that's a topic I'm not yet sort of ready to touch on.
	I like that response from that guy.
	So yeah, a reasonable, level-headed liberal.
	The liberal that the right wing can talk to.
	Not all like Vaush or Hassan.
	Disgusting, dysgenic freak.
	I know.
	And if you think that that's bad, let's hear how he speaks about his own son.
	Because he has a son from a previous marriage, and I know this is turning into a bit of a hit piece against his moral character, but I think we absolutely have the right to make value judgments on the moral character of others, especially when they've shown such disgusting behavior over the course of a few days, and I think you can look at the whole range of a person's behavior and say, I don't want anything to do with that.
	And I think it informs how you should approach them.
	And it also, again, if destiny is the id of the left, this is pretty representative of the great biomass of leftists who do despise you and want you to be dead, and also have no values whatsoever to speak of.
	Oh, is the audio playing on this, Jack?
	That one's muted for some reason.
	Essentially, what Destiny says in this clip, and you can click on the link in the description underneath, is that his son Nathan was born 11 years ago, I think he's 11 years old, and he was pro-life at the time because he was a conservative back then.
	And his girlfriend was like 19, so he decided that they were going to keep it.
	And now he's got a son who's 11 years old.
	Now he's pro-choice.
	And what that means, and he says this unapologetically, is that if he had the views then, that he holds now, he would have, without second thought, aborted his son.
	That's such an evil thing to say, I didn't know about this at all.
	And that this wouldn't be a morally bad thing to do, because, well, it wasn't really his son yet.
	But he's saying it when he's 11 years old.
	He's basically saying, I want my 11-year-old son dead.
	Which, presumably, he will hear.
	Not even necessarily that.
	What he's saying to his 11-year-old son is, my care for your life is entirely conditional.
	And parents should have a certain level of unconditional love for their children.
	That goes without saying.
	So what's the result?
	What's the result of all this?
	Well, first of all, he got demonetized on Twitter because advertisers have decided that we don't want anything near this.
	We don't want to be on this.
	We don't want him making money off of us.
	He said, oh, isn't this a bit hypocritical?
	No, you're a scumbag.
	These are the rules.
	These are the rules that have been applied to right wingers for years.
	So you don't get special treatment anymore.
	And on kick, he got banned.
	So JonTron sends his regards.
	I'm not sad.
	I'm not sad whatsoever that the rules are finally being applied.
	As we'll cover in the third segment, there's a certain contingent of the conservative right which is saying that, not necessarily destiny, but this sort of thing beginning to happen is the sign of cancel culture on the right.
	Therefore, we should feel bad about it.
	We can't go very far.
	No, this is the rules being applied evenly.
	This is the playing field even slightly leveling itself back to an even field.
	Which is not something that we've been playing on for decades at this point, right?
	So if this is going to happen to somebody like Destiny, who...
	This has been going on since then, but, you know, this is the last point I want to make, is not in any way apologetic, then I don't think that this is something I need to be sorry about.
	I'm not going to wring my hands over it.
	I'm not going to say, oh no, we need to show sympathy to Destiny, a man who would be laughing at me if I was shot and murdered in public.
	No, absolutely.
	Destiny has been banned, and I say good riddance.
	Now for something a little bit different.
	I've been following a bit of a trend in politics, and it is an interesting one, but a bit far from my experience, and that is Trump's growing popularity with black Americans.
	And this is not something I necessarily saw coming, which isn't really that surprising, but obviously Republicans never really do very well with Any of the black community.
	Normally it's about 90% of the black population of America vote for the Democratic Party.
	It's the demographic that most reliably votes Democrat.
	And it seems to be moving away from that, I think.
	So there was this article which did the, you know, and variations of it did the rounds.
	Trump suggests his mugshot and indictments Appeal to black voters Which I thought was kind of funny OMG he's just like me And it did sound a tad insulting But also Maybe there's a little bit of truth to this Because we're seeing things change now There are political analysts who made this same point, who are accused of being racist.
	Trump himself said it, but the thing is, as you're about to get into, there are lots of black Americans also saying the same thing.
	The fact is, demographics are very, very, very important for how people vote.
	People tend to vote in demographic blocks, and the culture of those demographics is probably going to inform it.
	And black America is known for its high crime rates.
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, obviously, that's just facts.
	Black America has noticed that, you know, voting Democrat doesn't necessarily give them the outcomes they want, right?
	They burnt America to the ground in 2020, at least some of them.
	And they're starting to realize, hang on a minute, we've been voting for these people and they're taking us for a ride.
	And that's the prevailing wind I've seen of the people who have switched.
	There's still a majority that are voting Democrat, but the trend seems to have at least started.
	So here's an article from Al Jazeera of all places.
	Why are black voters backing Donald Trump in record numbers?
	Latest polls show 17% of black voters would vote for a former president today.
	So that means that the vote share Donald Trump has taken when this was published, which I believe was March of 2024.
	So that was quite some time ago now, in electoral terms at least.
	It's almost doubled from the historic levels, which is nothing to turn your nose up at because that also suggests that other demographics are going to be switching in greater numbers.
	But I think, again, it's important to look at what we're seeing here.
	17%.
	Even doubling means that the percentage of people, the proportion we're looking at, is marginal.
	It is, yes.
	I think that once you sort of move the Jenga piece out of the Democrats having black voters, well they've lost basically the base of all of their ideology right?
	I mean I can see the logic there that once you take the one bit out the rest will crumble.
	You're kind of opening the floodgates but this is a little bit like the destruction of the Red Wall in 2019 which You know, rebuilt itself in record time at the most recent election.
	I see these things as temporary trends.
	As soon as it's not Donald Trump, as soon as it's somebody who wasn't, if you look into it, already idolized by the black community in America way before he was going to be president just because he sleeps with porn stars and he's rich so he can get all the blingio, it's not going to be the same thing.
	They're not going to come out in force for Ron DeSantis.
	My main reason for covering this is that I find it amusing.
	It's funny, don't get me wrong.
	And believe me, some of the videos are hilarious.
	This is more sort of moralisation than real political analysis.
	It's a bit of fun.
	Exactly.
	It's us two, we've got to do it right.
	We cover some depressing stuff sometimes, so we're allowed to have fun.
	You're allowed to have fun.
	So, seemingly the mugshot and Biden's continuing descent into madness has led to situations like this.
	Donald Trump wins 30% of black vote in a shocking poll.
	Okay, that's a little less marginal right there.
	Which is the poll?
	Yeah.
	It's just one poll as well, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	It was a New York Times one, I think, and Siena College Research Institute.
	Okay.
	It's only a sample of 1,226 as well.
	Between some dates in June.
	It's a big enough sample to make conclusions, but, you know, it's not tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people.
	It's not definitive.
	It would be hilarious if the entire black vote flipped for this one election.
	It's like, yeah, we love this guy.
	But anyway, I thought this was interesting.
	So the New York Times, the New York Slimes, as Bo likes to call it, I can't even get my words out merely mentioning his name, 11 black men on what Democrats and Republicans get wrong about their lives.
	And I took some screenshots out of this article because it's very long.
	Obviously, it's only 11 people, so it's not a representative sample.
	But some of these answers were quite interesting.
	What do you think Democrats understand the least about black Americans and specifically black men in America?
	And then the first one, the assumption that every black male youth is an automatic victim due to either systematic racism or factors outside of their control.
	That's an interesting answer to me, because that's the kind of thing that I would probably say.
	He's a microbiologist as well.
	You're quite an educated guy, perhaps, maybe not the most representative.
	I was going to say, I feel like we've got school principal graphic designer, microbiologist, and then we've got security and coach, so they might be a bit more reflective, but that's interesting.
	So let's look at this guy who's a security guard, right?
	That seems like a more blue-collar job, right?
	I don't think it's black or white, it's just job security, the economy, going to the grocery store and getting a bang for your buck.
	But there are issues that do strike the community more, like police brutality.
	So he's talking about policing, but he's saying actually they don't actually understand the economy, which is still, you know, that's...
	People's everyday lives.
	To many people that's the most important thing.
	Everybody can notice when they go into the shop and things are more expensive.
	And things are missing.
	Particularly in black community areas.
	Here's a coach here.
	It's the pandering to the black race, thinking that we are looking for a handout and feeling sorry for us when we're capable and culpable.
	I feel like the pandering of All you broken down people, you need us and here we are, we're going to help you.
	It's not a respectful tone or manner, it's insulting actually.
	And I would feel the same way, to be honest.
	Certainly to me, this seems to be more reflective of middle class black Americans.
	The sorts who are working better jobs like school coach, principals, graphic designers and, in some case, microbiologists, which might bump him in the American class system to maybe a bit of a... At least upper middle, right?
	Upper middle class, right?
	So this definitely seems more reflective of that portion of the demographic.
	Yeah, well, I mean, who's going to be talking to the New York Times?
	They're not going to be asking the guy begging for change, are they?
	I can understand why, because these guys are probably ones who are able to Excuse me, work hard and succeed from it.
	So they are going to have a bit more of a pull yourself up by the bootstraps mentality.
	Yeah, but...
	Which is nice to see.
	Yeah.
	You need aspirational figures.
	What I found interesting about this is that I was worried that things were going to go down the route of, you know, well, we're all black people.
	We've all got to think the same thing.
	And it doesn't seem to be going that way, right?
	Because there was a point in time, particularly in 2020, when it seemed like if you had a certain skin tone, you had to think a certain way.
	And it was brutally enforced, sort of socially.
	So you'd be socially ostracized if you said anything different.
	You know, you had Larry Elder being the black face of white supremacy.
	And I don't think that that's the political climate anymore.
	I think that there are enough people moving over to the Republican side of the aisle that it's no longer seen as this weird race traitory thing.
	And one thing that I found interesting about this article is, let's talk more about Donald Trump.
	When you think of Mr. Trump, what is the first word that comes to mind?
	And none of these are really insulting, knowledgeable, unfiltered, fairness, leadership, businessmen, courageous, leadership, figurehead, respected, take him as he is.
	That's multiple words.
	Unapologetic.
	That's probably the most open to interpretation is take him as he is, but it's not outright insulting.
	No, they didn't say insurrectionist, or traitor, or racist, or evil, or any of the words that you would expect.
	Or genocider, or anything that you would expect the media to have pumped into them.
	Yeah, it seems like these people have at least fought for themselves to a certain degree, as much as you can.
	You are right that it's interesting that this is coming from the New York Times as well, because the New York Times is one of the most mainstream publications out there.
	If you're talking about the different tiers of mainstream publications, New York Times is up there as one of the top ones alongside CNN and other trusted sources.
	So if you see that as one of the ways in which Uh, the regime hands down the narratives and disperses them.
	It does seem that there is a genuine attempt right now to try and dispel some of the anger towards Trump and promoting...
	Stories like this and opinion pieces like this seems to be one way that they're doing it.
	Yeah, and it reflects a change in the media landscape as well, doesn't it?
	That they're allowing these sorts of things that aren't aggressively critical of Trump to be published in the first place.
	It does suggest a change which I'm a little bit suspicious of.
	You know, it seems a little bit disingenuous after everything they ran in the past.
	My personal interpretation, as I stated yesterday, is that when one politician ends up in the crosshairs, then that opens up the playing field to all of them.
	And so they might be trying to simmer down the temperature a little bit before they realize, well, if Donald Trump gets shot, it might be me next.
	That's very true.
	I don't think that's the whole story but I think that might be part of it.
	It's certainly part of it and I think that the people with the most have the most stake to keep things peaceful.
	That much is certain, right?
	That's been true of all human history and so that is probably a decent element of it.
	So we've also got this, this is a Daily Mail article talking about it.
	Moment focus group host is shocked when half of black voters reveal who they're voting for.
	So this was a Daily Show correspondent talking to a small focus group, again it's a small sample so take it with a pinch of salt, but half of them said that they're going to vote for Donald Trump.
	Johnson started off the segment like, do we F with Trump?
	That's how we appeal to black voters.
	We gotta get that urban demographic!
	Was it Richard Nixon saying it as well?
	I don't know, I assume that Richard Nixon is in the air.
	He's in our souls.
	He's in my heart.
	He is, yeah.
	And then you have Biden, you know what's coming.
	I sent you this earlier, this is an amazing clip.
	So this is Biden recently.
	And so, it's all about, it's all about treating people with dignity.
	And it's about making sure that, look, I mean, for example, look at the heat I'm getting, because I, I named a, uh, the, uh, Secretary of Defense, who's a black man, I named Katonji Praha.
	Remember guys, it's all about dignity.
	Yeah!
	Did he try and mumble his name beforehand?
	He did.
	It's all about...
	The name he was looking for was Lloyd Austin, the Secretary of Defense.
	The black man he named.
	He was there at his birth, apparently.
	Kentucky Brown Jackson That's the wrong order That's the wrong black person He was talking about people he's appointed I think and he was listing them off He's just like, that black man, I don't know why he's got the accent now.
	I didn't mean to do that.
	But then he said also Contagi Brown and, you know, the diversity... Pandering, pandering, pandering.
	And then there was this article, which was published after the attempted assassination on Trump, which I personally found hilarious.
	This was from Forbes, which has been quite woke.
	Will surviving gunfire be Donald Trump's next appeal to black voters?
	And it is hilarious because under the left lane terms, this is incredibly racist and it came from a diversity, equity and inclusion expert.
	Well, that's even funnier.
	That's the question though.
	Is this a case of woke more correct?
	I think it is.
	Don't get me wrong, this has actually really helped him.
	So, there's going to be some strong language now, because we're going to some real black Americans, so if you have children watching, please, you know, pause the video, get them out the room, because there's going to be naughty words.
	There's going to be some N-words, some F-words, all of the words.
	Yep, can't help.
	Can't help themselves.
	Our editors can't censor this much swearing, so you have been warned, okay?
	So here's a comedian, I don't know his name, but here it is anyway.
	And he's basically setting the tone for these following clips.
	I've seen the president.
	Well, the nigga that's running.
	Duck, Trump.
	He got shot, dog.
	They shot him.
	This nigga done been shot.
	This nigga done went to jail.
	He done scammed people.
	And this nigga my uncle.
	Who the fuck?
	Who the hell is?
	He's officially black now, bro.
	That's beautiful.
	They shot him.
	They shot him.
	He was like, yeah, I'm having a... He was fine.
	He was doing like this and walked out with an American flag on him.
	Like this.
	He put one of these.
	Like, I'm a real nigga.
	Fuck, nigga.
	I'm out of here.
	It's hard, bro!
	I wasn't even, like, I wasn't even for the vote.
	I'm voting now, dog.
	He got it.
	He won.
	I wasn't even for the vote.
	I had no, I had no skin in the game.
	I was like, that nigga got shot.
	He won.
	Fuck the bullshit.
	That's, he had real ops, nigga.
	What the fuck?
	Joe Biden's biggest op is the stairs.
	That's it.
	He had real ops.
	Somebody really tried to, listen, that's how, that's how you know he a real nigga, bro.
	Joe Biden has been trying to kill himself his whole presidency.
	So nobody had to kill this nigga.
	Nobody had to try to kill him.
	Trump been just ready to go his whole time.
	They like, we gotta fucking off his ass.
	And missed!
	And just skipped his ear and missed.
	That's crazy, bro.
	Hey, Mexican nigga, you fuck with Trump?
	Yeah?
	Hell yeah, that was good.
	Huh?
	You say amen?
	He not God, nigga.
	What the fuck?
	That was crazy.
	That was actually quite funny.
	I know, I was pleasantly surprised.
	And then he's starting getting offers from protection from the hood.
	We'd have scoped that roof.
	Here we go.
	Here's a gentleman offering hood protection.
	Say President Trump, my president, the United States president, you know who I'm talking to?
	This could even go to Trump Jr.
	Hey, if you're going to continue to do these debates in these states or in these little cities, and you want some proper protection, this is just a suggestion.
	This is just my opinion, bro.
	I like how he's milling about while he's recording this.
	Because you have a lot of people out there that love you.
	A lot, right?
	And it's obvious that the CIA and all these alphabet agencies don't like you.
	They don't want nothing to do with you.
	They don't want to protect you.
	They don't want nothing.
	So here's my suggestion to you, Mr. Trump, Mr. President, even Trump Jr.
	If you get this to your father, huh?
	Go to the hood.
	Go get you about 30 to 40, maybe 50 of them ghetto ass motherfuckers.
	These my friends.
	I don't care if they white, black, right?
	And on the day before you give them mugs a particular color to wear to protect you, I promise you, that won't ever happen again.
	Listen to what I'm saying.
	You get the idea.
	You know what, I'd take him up on his offer.
	Imagine Trump rolling up in a limo to the hood, winds down the window.
	Get in boys.
	We've got a country to save.
	Here, I've got you loads of gold guns.
	I've got a few 40 ounces in here.
	You can even hold them sideways.
	That's amazing.
	And then there's this guy just recording a TikTok in his car saying what I think a lot of people are thinking at the minute here.
	Look, I don't care what nobody got to say, bro.
	This nigga Trump got shot, stood back up, and said, I don't care what nobody gotta say, bro.
	I don't care if you hate this nigga or love this nigga, bro.
	That's a leader.
	That's a motherfucking leader, bruh.
	He got shot.
	Step back.
	It's undeniable, isn't it?
	Everyone can see it.
	I don't disagree with him.
	He's absolutely right.
	This is the kind of leadership that America's not seen in years.
	I know.
	Well, I mean, it was one of those moments that when I saw it, I couldn't believe it was real.
	It was amazing.
	I remember I got woken up about four in the morning, went to check my phone just to see what was going on, and all of a sudden all I could see was pictures of Trump Fist in the air, blood down his face.
	I was, you know, still bleary-eyed in sleep.
	I was like, what the hell is going on?
	So, it's not just men from the hood.
	It's also grannies from the hood.
	So, here we go.
	This isn't a granny, obviously.
	My 66-year-old grandmother, my 66-year-old black grandmother, who has never voted for a Republican president in her entire life, just told me she's voting for Donald Trump in November.
	Today was the tipping point for her.
	She said, and I quote, the Democrats have lost their damn minds.
	She's absolutely correct.
	She's absolutely right.
	Guys, they tried to kill that man today, but inadvertently what they do not realize is they only made him stronger.
	He's not wrong again.
	There's a lot of truth being spoken here.
	And there's another example here of a guy who was a former Democrat voter who changed his mind.
	So President Trump just got shot.
	And as someone who voted against Trump in both 2016 and 2020, this is a cause for deep reflection by me.
	And my question is, have we been told the truth at any point over the last eight years about who Trump is and what's actually going on here?
	A lot of people who are pro-Trump have been saying that this is the playbook of the, of they, whether it's a deep state or, you know, some shadowy interest in the government.
	First, they try to cancel you.
	So they say shit about your character.
	They say things that can't actually be proven.
	They take quotes from you that make you basically look bad.
	The second thing that they try to do is they try to convict you of something.
	In this case, trumped up charges about you paying legal expenses to a porn star for her to not say that you had sex with her.
	Morals aside, like, is that really a big deal enough to convict someone?
	And then the third thing that they try to do is they try to kill you.
	And that's just what happened with Trump.
	And actually, you know, I've been updating my view on Trump recently, and I started going back to some of the things that I was told that he said, and some of them he literally did not say.
	Like, for example, you remember when we were told that he said of white supremacists and other racists in a rally that he said that they were good people?
	It's not true.
	If you actually watch the whole clip, and I'll share a link to the clip here, You get the gist of it.
	he's clearly saying there were other people at the rally who are good people you get the gist of it we've shown this clip before and i don't want to run on too long um so here's another one of a guy doing just a standard tiktok where he's he's saying he's meeting his democrat family for a was it a I don't know.
	He's going around the house or whatever and he's wearing Democrat stuff.
	Yeah, he's got his BLM shirt.
	His Biden.
	His Biden shirt.
	Hell no, he says.
	And then you gotta wait for it.
	This does remind me of a video game though.
	Hey!
	It's like in San Andreas when you're changing clothes.
	He goes in and out of the wardrobe.
	Exactly.
	And then the final clip I think I'm going to show you is just this madness.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Why is it always the same music?
	I don't know.
	I hope we don't get copyrighted.
	The music of all the things.
	If you scream it loud enough, maybe he'll become president.
	Maybe they're hoping he arrives, like they hear him calling.
	I gotta go, my people are calling.
	And two final things I wanted to end on.
	Three baby mamas, multiple mugshots, 34 felonies, got shot, the first president is Donald Trump.
	Blacker than Obama confirmed.
	Apparently so.
	And then the final thing is, just...
	Yeah, this is absolutely right.
	I was thinking, the second I saw this, I thought, variations of this one photo, well, not this one specifically, the one where the flag's a bit bigger behind him and you can see it a bit clearly, the really famous one, they're all going to be rap album covers in the next few years.
	It does look like a hip-hop album cover, doesn't it?
	Yeah, when you put the Parental Advisory sticker on it, yes, yes it does.
	Although this isn't the most serious segment in the world, I think that there is something seemingly going on here, right?
	There is some sort of phenomenon.
	How much it's going to translate to the ballot box is a different thing.
	Whether it's sustainable is a different question, but it's worth pointing out, I think.
	Let's move on to the last segment then, where it turns out that finally, after years of asking what if the roles were reversed, for once, for a few days, the roles have been reversed.
	Hooray!
	And this is terrible.
	Oh.
	This is a bad thing.
	Oh dear.
	Apparently.
	Now, I can understand why some people are feeling a little bit uneasy about it, and most of it seems to be coming from this.
	The fact that Libs of TikTok has been on a bit of a tear over the past few days, sharing the statements of a few people who've been saying on their social media, on Facebook, I wish Donald Trump had been shot.
	Essentially saying that, oh, if only he'd been this person in particular, Darcy Pinkney.
	Too bad they weren't a better shooter.
	Somebody went to confront her at the Home Depot that she works at, and as a result of her confirming that that's her, the shop has had a number of phone calls made to it from people who've been saying that they don't want her working there, they don't want to be served by this woman, and Home Depot ended up releasing this statement.
	Hi, this individual's comments don't reflect the Home Depot or our values.
	We can confirm she no longer works at the Home Depot.
	So, this is a case of, let's be fair, council culture.
	Right?
	She said something that people disagree with, and as a result, she got fired.
	Now, I would argue that the thing that she said warrants a greater pushback than what the right has been saying for years to get cancelled, because unlike what some of the examples I'll be putting out further in this segment were, it wasn't a case where she didn't want to give her pronouns, or she didn't want to go with whatever the regime narrative was at the time.
	She actively said, this guy should have been shot.
	Called for violence, which most people see as being beyond the pale, as I discussed when we were talking about Destiny.
	But I can completely understand why some random woman working behind a counter at Home Depot has made people feel unsettled by this.
	Because, for one, surely at whatever age she is working behind a counter at Home Depot is punishment enough.
	That's a low blow, but I agree.
	But this is the first time in a long while where there has been consequences for the left's actions.
	And what I want to remind people is these are the playing field.
	These are the rules of the game now.
	We are in an existential war to a certain degree.
	I know some people think that's hyperbole, but we are.
	They want to destroy our way of life, and if we were in a fight face-to-face, and we both agreed that we would have one hand tied behind our back, and then your opponent decides to untie that hand so they can fight you both hands, if you decide to keep your hand behind your back because it wouldn't be principled to untie it because those were the rules of the game that were established at the start, you're a fool.
	You're going to lose, right?
	And these are people who, for a long time, have been calling for you to be deplatformed, you to have your money taken away from you.
	In Canada, they actually did seize people's bank accounts, people have lost jobs, people have died, and the people who killed them have barely faced any consequences for it.
	And just to clarify, you don't mean people who we have political disagreements with, you mean people who support political violence and, you know, ruining other people's lives because of slight disagreements about their politics, right?
	Absolutely.
	I'm still very happy for there to be a range of opinions that can be expressed within what could be described as freedom of speech.
	Obviously.
	I'm a man of the West, after all.
	That's one of our foundational things.
	But, there is a point where actively calling for people's deaths, I think most people can agree, that's beyond the pale.
	That's crossing a line.
	Even if I were to go back to one of the original free speech defenders, John Locke, who was saying we should ban atheism and execute people who are atheists, I would say, hold up now John, I know you've written some books about this, but I think that's going a tad too far.
	You know?
	But I think what's important to look at is that it's not just this one person that Libs of TikTok has been going after.
	She's also been going after other people since then.
	She has been saying, here is a school counselor who was saying that she said that the shooter missing was disappointing to her, Amanda Brewer.
	So there are multiple layers to this, obviously.
	On the one hand, do you want someone who wants political violence to be near other people's children?
	I would say no.
	Instilling values into children.
	Exactly.
	But secondly, with that opinion comes other opinions that are more directly damaging to the children.
	I imagine she's probably not going to be talking in length about the children's political opinions on the Trump shooting.
	However, you know, if she has that opinion of Trump, what does she think about LGBTQ ideology and other things?
	It comes with a whole bundle of other things that are indicative of having that sort of opinion.
	And if you're a parent of the children being counselled by this person, do you want to know, are you comfortable knowing that the school counsellor hates your guts and will probably try to convince your own children to hate you?
	We've covered a lot that goes on in schools over the course of this podcast, and I think at this point we can all accept that if you are in a public-facing job that's funded by the state, like school counselor, like a school teacher, if you are a part of the opinion and value molding process for other people's children, you're fair game.
	Let's be honest.
	If you're an employee of the state, I think that you have to be criticised.
	I personally believe in abolishing state schooling altogether and having it all privately done.
	I would massively incentivise more people to homeschool, which is, under Labour, especially going to be more difficult in the UK very, very soon.
	And it's already very difficult right now.
	But I wouldn't want this person near my children.
	Who would?
	And she resigned.
	She resigned.
	So you can even, if you really feel bad about it, you can take that route as well.
	You know, we didn't fire, get her fired.
	She resigned.
	And then there's other examples of this.
	This woman, who I believe was during lockdown.
	Don't quote me on this if I'm incorrect, but I'm sure I've seen this woman's face before.
	She was one of those people in lockdown who was saying that you should be, you know, fired if you don't get the vaccine.
	This is fair play.
	Jennifer Ripper, teacher at Semper Elementary School, said that she's sad the shooter missed any comment.
	And they, in response, sent out an email that doesn't even respond to it, really.
	They said, oh, we condemn all expressions of political violence.
	Yeah, but do you condemn this one?
	Are you going to do anything about it?
	Again, are you happy for your children?
	To be in close contact with this teacher who is going to be instilling values in them and probably trying to get them to hate you.
	I wouldn't be.
	Here's another one.
	Another person from these schools.
	The Progressive Education Program.
	That sounds terrifying, doesn't it?
	Yep.
	And she posted underneath a Donald Trump post about the shooting.
	Nobody has been this disappointed by two inches since Stormy.
	Oof.
	Yeah.
	So, not a great look.
	Not a great look.
	And again, more school- Well, this one was a Tennessee councilwoman who struck down a resolution condemning the attempted assassination and suggested that it's Trump's fault himself that it happened.
	What does she say?
	Because Mr. Trump has been calling for this and that people heeded his call?
	Well, he's been calling for people to kill him.
	I assume so.
	That's what it sounds like to me.
	That must have gone under the radar, you know?
	I think when you have an opportunity to unseat state operatives who are in positions of power, who are going to use that power to persecute you or corrupt the minds of your children, if you're in an opportunity to try and punish them for it, you should.
	These people are cowards.
	These people are deformed freaks who hate you and they would do anything to see you and your way of life destroyed.
	And you can't really play fair game with them because they're not going to play fair game with you.
	Well, to their mind, it's, you know, the ends justify the means, isn't it?
	And so if that means doing untoward things to you, be it, you know, assassinate political candidates or use political violence, well, there are lots of people in America on the left that have voiced that they're perfectly happy for that to happen and even done it.
	So we've got all the evidence we need.
	Absolutely, and again, in that same vein, this isn't a case where we're making up our own rules to try to basically unfairly unseat these people.
	We're applying the same standards that have been applied to us, except more fairly.
	We're not turning around and saying, well, these people should be fired from their jobs because, I don't know, they don't salute the American flag as often as I would like them to.
	They differ from me on these few ideological positions.
	They use different pronouns than I would like them to.
	Well, there's also an element of- What we're doing is we're saying, these people are excusing and calling for more political violence.
	I think it's fair to punish them for it.
	Like, there are cases where I think that some leniency can be shown.
	Like, if someone's wearing a rainbow lanyard at their job, and it's part of their... They don't deserve to lose their job over it.
	Yeah, they might not engage in politics whatsoever.
	They might even not understand the implications of what they're wearing, right?
	Not everyone is as politically switched on, and I don't think that that deserves you to get the same treatment as the people who are pushing that sort of thing.
	And if it's a disagreement over, I don't know, economic minutia, what should the marginal tax rate be on this or that?
	Bad example for me, Harry.
	I know that you would go on all sorts of crusades over that sort of thing.
	If you believe in tax, you should be fired.
	I, on the other hand, would say, OK, let's talk about it.
	I'm not being serious, obviously.
	Yeah, of course.
	Even when it comes to things like legal reform and proportional punishment in the legal system, prisons, all sorts of things are open to discussion.
	I think that's absolutely fair.
	And in a free society, that's a good thing.
	These people don't believe that.
	These people are calling for more political violence and excusing it.
	So, okay.
	But again, there's been people criticizing the rights approach to it, saying that this is a bad thing.
	Constantine saying that reminder that doxing people to get them fired from their jobs and cancelling comedians for jokes is just as wrong now as when the other side was doing it to you.
	Again, ignoring the qualitative differences between what they were getting cancelled for Back in the day, on the right, what they were getting cancelled for, and what's happening to these people now.
	The same with James Lindsay as well, who said this absolute clangor.
	Winning wrongly is losing.
	Okay, so it's lose-lose, you just want to lose.
	Okay, so a culture war for the future of the Western civilization, and all the political action that goes with that.
	If we win in a way that you're not happy with, It's as good as losing.
	Might as well give up.
	But losing well is still losing, isn't it?
	As well.
	There is also that side of it that is the inverse of this.
	But I was going to say that, back to the kissing tweet about comedians, well I've personally not heard any comedians talk about Trump but I'm not surprised if there have been.
	There was the tenacious Steve.
	Oh of course, I suppose so.
	But there are cases in the UK, sorry to bring it to our own domestic turf, but Joe Brand talking about acid attacking Nigel Farage.
	And this, you know, he's someone who's been milkshaked a lot, you know, it's not hard to think that okay well next time it's not a milkshake, it's a vial of acid.
	And that then would ruin his life.
	And this is someone joking about, you know, attacking someone.
	And there was pushback, it wasn't enforced evenly, and then, you know, more right-wing comedians, the few of them that exist, make very slight jokes about political issues, not even attacking individuals, and they lose their jobs, they never work again.
	And you know what they say as well, many a truth said in jest.
	You can't excuse people just because they say, oh I want to acid attack this person in a jokey tone of voice.
	I mean, come on.
	But again, what Constantine and many other people are ignoring is the difference in severity.
	with what's going on.
	These people, and what they're saying, is a clear incitement to violence, cheering on the death of a man and the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.
	If you're talking about the platforms that these people are speaking on, it absolutely violates any terms of service that they have, that we have had, that they've been using to persecute us under for much less.
	What did we even get demonetized on YouTube for?
	Well, they didn't give us a reason.
	There you go.
	These people are only just getting a taste of their consequences.
	It Should it be random faculty members and Home Depot employees?
	I mean, it can feel very petty.
	And I'm not going to be cheering it on happening to the random working class person who's on minimum wage.
	And I do think we should go for bigger targets.
	But these are natural consequences and I'm not going to feel bad or shed a tear for them.
	If you have been saying some variation of the roles, what if the roles were reversed?
	Imagine when the pendulum swings for years now, and then this is your reaction the second the roles do get reversed, even on a minor way, and the pendulum swings back just a tiny, tiny little bit.
	It's only just swung over, yeah.
	Then, and you don't actually have the bottle to follow through, then there are no consequences for these people, there is no roles are reversed, and they will never learn.
	And they will win, basically.
	Yeah, they will win.
	Remember, who you're talking to are not reasonable, individual people.
	These are the NPCs.
	They have been fed their opinions by the mass media and feeling a boiling resentment for other people.
	You're not engaging in dialogue with the reasonable, logical opponent.
	You're engaging in dialogue with a rabid dog.
	If you're going to punish somebody, it'd be like trying to punish a child by rewarding bad behavior with sweets.
	If they do the same thing over and over and over again, and destroy your lives and the lives of your friends and destroy your country, and then you try and just say, ah, well, what if the roles were reversed and don't do anything to follow up, you have lost.
	I think it's worthwhile bearing in mind, don't do this sort of thing blanketly.
	No, of course not.
	Do it in like a case-by-case basis, right?
	Look at the evidence and be reasonable and reasoned about it.
	But I very much agree with what you're saying.
	Absolutely.
	And some people have already been making jokes and pointing out, I've made some jokes about this.
	You know, Obi-Wan, no, you're only supposed to imagine if the roles were reversed, not actually reverse them!
	And then people have been responding to me with some funny ones like, I cancelled them!
	And not just the politicians, but the cashiers too!
	That's great!
	Which is really funny!
	So, big props to people responding to me.
	Oron McIntyre was, oh no, my enemies can never face the consequences of their actions!
	And this is natural consequences.
	This was a particularly good one from Norm Cruz, my favourite comedian actor.
	Conservatives when the pendulum swings a millimetre back in their favour after years of communist tyranny.
	No, I can't handle it!
	But let's have a reminder of what we're talking about.
	What have these people been cancelling you for?
	Why is it that you have to operate on an anonymous account on social media?
	Why is it that you have to keep your mouth shut in public when you want to talk about things and convey opinions that you feel, rightfully so, are perfectly reasonable and should be open to discussion.
	Like saying, for instance, well, if a man has a penis, then he shouldn't be a woman 'cause he can't be a woman.
	Biologically speaking, that makes no sense.
	Why is it that among polite company, you can't say that?
	Well, because we have been tyrannized.
	We have been tyrannized for decades. - And God forbid you bring up per capita in crime statistics. - Good God, that goes even further back.
	If you go back to the 1960s, you have people saying, well, you can't say that sort of thing.
	Don't you understand that one man had a dream, so therefore you need to destroy your inner cities on behalf of that?
	But you know, this is a really good post.
	People got fired for wearing a MAGA hat in their Facebook photo for making the OK hand sign.
	For donating $25 to Kyle Rittenhouse's defense.
	People have been physically assaulted in hundreds of different incidents for supporting Trump.
	Opposing Black Lives Matter.
	People have been murdered for supporting Trump.
	That's true.
	Yeah, this is a good one.
	Aaron Danielson in Portland.
	Remember what happened to him?
	Shot in the middle of the street.
	Was it some Antifa guy?
	Was it... I want to say Michael Reinhold.
	Yeah, if you want to get that up so we can make sure we're saying it properly.
	Right.
	Hang on.
	And this is a particularly bad one.
	Two thirds of Democrat voters wanted to put you on house arrest for not getting the vaccine.
	And at the time, read this, right, the highlighted portion, 45% wanted to put you in a camp, a designated facility, if you didn't want to get the vaccine.
	It was, Michael, right and all.
	Thank you for clarifying that.
	These are the people you're talking- These are the rabid dogs who believe whatever the media has told them that they need to believe.
	And they are resentful, and spiteful, and nasty enough to actually follow through with it.
	So if you can't even look at people applying the rules, even remotely fairly, to these same people who literally wanted to put you in a camp for not getting the vax.
	Well, it's people reacting like a beaten dog, isn't it?
	You know, they've been beaten their whole lives, and then when finally the master's hand has changed, they're still reacting in the same way.
	No, time is to bite, isn't it?
	Absolutely.
	Remember as well that in Canada, a father was arrested and held in jail for violating Court orders over a child's gender transition therapy.
	So the child is transitioning.
	You say, I don't want that.
	The school's been hiding it from you.
	The entire establishment is against you.
	And he gets arrested and taken the custody of his own child away from it because he doesn't want the child to transition and permanently damage themselves for the rest of their lives.
	These are the people that we're talking about.
	And here's another, here's some great examples.
	You know, back to 2014, the scientist Dr. Matt Taylor was forced to apologize after breaking down weeping because people tried to cancel him over wearing a shirt with sexy women on it while he gave a speech.
	My goodness.
	I mean, you could criticize it from a fashion perspective, but you know, it's not sexist or offensive.
	It's, if anything, quite flattering.
	Yeah, there you go.
	This kid, wearing a MAGA hat, who stood as people beat drums in his face and smiled, was misrepresented so much by the media, where people were saying, Reza Aslan, remember this one?
	Have you ever seen a more punchable face than this kid?
	How is that not incitement to violence?
	Punch a child because he's smiling with political opinions different to him.
	It also, it turned out that the guy banging the drum in his face is known for causing trouble.
	What a surprise.
	The kid sued, I think, the media and won a lot of money.
	Yes, he did You're right in thinking about it.
	You are right.
	So at least he got some, you know, justice for it.
	But that doesn't take away everything that he was put through for standing his ground peacefully.
	That's what these people do.
	They will see people expressing opinions or standing their ground peacefully, and they will ruin your life over it.
	And then further, Gina Carano says, hey, maybe let's not demonize people.
	Remember what happened in history when we demonized people so much.
	Disney fires are gone.
	It wasn't even that controversial.
	It was within the sort of Overton window, wasn't it?
	Easily should have been.
	She was saying, by the way, persecution of the Jews and Holocaust was bad.
	Maybe let's not demonize people again.
	Hollywood hates that for some reason.
	Yeah, Disney, of all people, Bob Iger, for some reason, decided, well, this is just terrible.
	Yep, here's the Aaron Danielson thing again.
	Guy literally gets shot in the middle of the street.
	In the back of the head, no less, as well.
	In the back of the head.
	Jogging or paddleboarding in 2020 could get you arrested while everybody was throwing dinner parties.
	It was much the same over here in the UK where we couldn't go outside for more than an hour legally while Boris Johnson and all the rest of them were conducting affairs and having parties with one another.
	Trust the science, but then of course when it comes to racism that's more important.
	I thought you were saying something else.
	events so it's actually so racism remember was more of a public contagion than covid the thing that we destroyed i thought you were saying something else i thought you're saying trust the science except when it comes to race science oh well yeah well that's another thing you just I mean, you want to go back to Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Bell Curves, they presented publicly accessible data in a scientific manner and they got cancelled.
	Well, I say they, Richard Herrnstein had the good grace to die right before the book came out and then left Charles Murray to absorb it all himself.
	Charles Murray, who's been assaulted in public when he's been trying to give speeches at universities, hounded out of universities because of books that he's written about the distribution of human achievement in science over the past few thousand years.
	Academic work, yeah.
	Yeah, academic work over the difference in human biology.
	He's unable to speak in many universities because otherwise he's in danger of being physically assaulted.
	You know, contrasting the difference between unite the right, saying Jews will not replace us, getting, you know, how that was handled versus black Hebrew Israelites actually trying to murder Jewish people, you know, all these sorts of things.
	There are so many examples, and you can even go further back.
	Take it all the way back.
	Where does this always circle back to?
	Civil rights?
	No.
	Civil war?
	No.
	The Magna Carta?
	No.
	Game of Game.
	I didn't expect that.
	We get it straight back to Gamergate.
	Because let's not forget, this is when most people first noticed all this.
	What happened to the gaming industry?
	Well, this person, Grums, put together a very handy thread on a lot of what happened with gamer cancellations even recently.
	So one of the more recent ones, Five Nights at Freddy's, Scott Cawthon.
	Turns out he was donating to Republicans.
	Turns out that he was donating to Tulsi Gabbard.
	His audience freaked out.
	Uh, Jim Sterling made a video comparing him to the KKK, and oh yeah, they tried to dox him and tried to harass his wife.
	Fantastic!
	Palmer Luckey, co-creator of Oculus, was cancelled and fired from Facebook for donating to a billboard that supported Trump.
	Troy Livot, the guy who was the lead, I think, on Hogwarts Legacy, was forced to quit after it turned out that he was an anti-SJW.
	SweetBabyInc tried to get some random guy cancelled because he put up a Steam Curator page.
	Canceled Notch for saying it's okay to be white, and they took him off of his own Minecraft credits.
	This is purely for presenting opinions.
	This is all this is.
	Oh yeah, they reduced a Twitch streamer, Pikamee, to tears because she decided to stream Hogwarts Legacy.
	If you remember, I think they had a website.
	They had a website tracking people.
	Tracking people who are streaming Hogwarts Legacy so they could have mass public lynchings of these people in the comments for playing a video game.
	This is what these people do.
	You can go further down, people deciding to do the OK symbol, white supremacist.
	Apex Legends lead balance designer was cancelled in 2021 for comments that they made in 2007, which was, women are crazy.
	Wow.
	Cancelled for a factual comment.
	It's so prevalent that the Game Developers Conference this year ran a panel on what to do if you get cancelled and how you can apologise.
	This is the culture that they have created for the most minor infractions, and people call for violence, people call for death, people celebrate the death of a family man who died protecting his family, and you wring your hands, and you say, oh, this is terrible.
	I'm not gonna cheer on that some random woman from Home Depot gets fired.
	I don't think those are the sorts of targets that we should be going for.
	But do I believe for a second that she wouldn't be celebrating if I was dead?
	If Josh was dead?
	If you were dead?
	No.
	This isn't the time to be giving treats to the rabid dog.
	There we go.
	I've made my speech.
	We have some comments, I believe.
	I've just realised I got sent a picture that my collar had been poking out for most of the podcast.
	Oh no.
	What's that voice?
	Oh no.
	What are you, goofy from?
	Go read the comments, Josh.
	Talk about Disney.
	Read the comments.
	We do have Rumble Rants, okay.
	Yeah.
	Um, Spastic Terrorist, what a name.
	Lads, lads, lads, always a good show with Harry and Josh.
	We should read the Rumble Rants and then we'll go through the video comments.
	Okay, I was just reading that one first.
	Oh yeah, yeah, cheers.
	The comments were prepped.
	Caleb Knight, for one dollar, thank you, remember people, noticing is evil.
	Two dollars from Hero Sanichiban.
	Uh, thank you.
	Blacks and whites coming together over politics.
	Uh-oh.
	This is why they injected race communists into Occupy Wall Street.
	They wanted to stop us all seeing the bigger enemy.
	They messed up bigly.
	That's one interpretation of it, but, you know, fair play.
	There's also one in the last segment as well.
	Well, a couple actually.
	Threadnought for $10.
	Haha, guy who uses pet pitbull to rip the faces off people he didn't like just got his own face ripped off by that same dog.
	What a pathetic loser.
	Man against pitbull eating faces.
	Okay.
	Interesting analogy there.
	Yeah, that's a very strange analogy.
	Five dollars.
	Is that your equivalent of the, uh, but surely the tiger won't eat my face though, says the supporter of the tiger eating people's faces party.
	It's been updated for modern politics.
	Yeah.
	Pitbulls.
	No, I don't think that if people get fired for supporting the political assassination of Donald Trump that it's somehow going to come back around onto me or Josh somehow for discussing facts.
	I don't see the line of logic that leads from one to the other.
	$5 from Threadnaught again saying it's not hypocrisy, the ones who weaponized it are just being disarmed.
	I'd be sad, but as a pacifist I think it's justified to disarm and destroy someone who intends to kill you.
	Okay, I don't think Threadnaught in the last one... No, no, no, I didn't get that impression either.
	Yeah, I was just confused, but thank you very much, I agree.
	$5 from Zenothium says the left cancels for supporting the wrong candidate, citing crime statistics and donating to Kyle Rittenhouse.
	The right is cancelling for calling to violence.
	These two things are not the same.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely, thank you.
	The Last Russian for $1.
	That shirt was designed by his female friend.
	You're right, actually, I forgot about that.
	Shirtgate2014, hashtag there.
	Shall we go through some of the video comments?
	Indeed we should.
	Connor and Harry, would you ever consider discussing the politics of the Demon Headmaster?
	Rewatching it a couple of weeks or so ago, I noticed some things I never really picked up on when I was watching it as a child.
	I'll leave a list of things on screen that I picked up, rather than trying to condense it all into a 30 second video.
	I'd never actually heard of the Demon Headmaster from what I can see looking at this on IMDB.
	It looks pretty popular.
	It was a CBBC channel that did a show.
	Okay, maybe.
	I mean, Connor and I mainly cover comic books, but we're always happy to cover other things and other bits of media, as are I and Josh.
	We will eventually cover the first series of True Detective.
	Oh yeah, and the Northmen one day.
	I was re-watching it again recently, so I've been doing my research.
	Remember when you brought a load of stuff about Norse mythology in preparation?
	I did read them!
	Fair play!
	I still need to read my Icelandic sagas.
	But yeah, we'll see about checking that out if we've got time for it.
	It sounds interesting, especially if it's a kids' show, promoting what I think are interesting ideas.
	Let's carry on.
	All of these highlighted here in some way mark an increase in the role of the state, in the role of government in people's lives.
	Those are the hallmarks of it being a Labour King speech.
	Increase in the role of the state, in the role of government in people's lives.
	Increase in the role of the state, in the role of government in people's lives.
	A spokesman said, this is the one thing we didn't want to happen.
	I like the brass eye clip there.
	I rate that video comment.
	You are right, it was only one fifth of the electorate and we can see old Palpy down there.
	I love democracy.
	People love tyranny, what's wrong with them?
	Really, I know Peter Hitchens is going to blame people like us for saying to vote against the Tories.
	Can we blame the Tories?
	Can we still blame the Tories for being so shit?
	That it made them so unelectable that Labour got in on a pathetic vote share.
	Yes.
	They got less than... Oh, I just broke the mic.
	They got less votes than Jeremy Corbyn and that was a historic low for Labour.
	Have we got any more?
	It looks like I have another customer.
	It's a very curious bunny.
	It likes to explore.
	I saw it eating flowers the other day.
	Unfortunately, I'm at war with these weeds called Canadian thistles.
	They're some of the ugliest plants I've ever seen and they have really sharp thorns, but luckily the rabbit is smart enough not to eat them.
	That's a sweet little video of a rabbit.
	Thank you.
	That's such a palate cleanser, isn't it?
	Can we get more rabbit videos?
	I wish I had a garden.
	I wish I could have nature in it.
	But instead, I have crackheads outside of my flat because I live in Swindon.
	You'll get out one day.
	Please release me.
	I thought Carl's hat yesterday was pretty awesome.
	I would not normally do this, but I decided to go and do the same thing.
	They were actually meant for my brothers.
	My one brother in particular really requested that I get him one.
	I don't think he's going to mind that I'm going to wear it for a little while.
	Nice.
	Yeah, fair play.
	I thought that was cool to see Carl with his hat on as well.
	It was fun.
	I was thinking about getting one myself.
	I mean, it's not like I'm going to be voting Libertarian with Chase Oliver.
	Not that I'm voting at all because I'm foreign, but actually maybe I will across the southern border.
	Did you see Dave Smith talk about that?
	Dave Smith was so sad after that because he was blaming himself.
	He was going, on some level, I can't help but feel this is my fault.
	Dave, don't blame yourself.
	You're a good guy.
	It seems like everything's done a sudden 180.
	There's a lot of hope right now.
	And that's a good thing, but you have to remember that a cornered animal is very dangerous.
	And right now, the enemies are very much cornered.
	I live around a lot of true believers, and Antifa is known to riot.
	I'm a little afraid of that, so I'm keeping my head a bit low.
	And I've seen some activity that seems like it might be glowing, but that might just be me being paranoid.
	Well, that's all very good and sage advice, as always, California refugee.
	And if you want to think that hope is getting too much, look at Britain and British politics, and France, actually, and Germany.
	Look at Europe for misery, because it's only getting worse here.
	A Gentleman's Observations of Swindon, Chapter 13.
	Swindon's first cinema was opened in Regent Street in 1910.
	Harold Fleming became the only Swindon Town FC player to play for the England football team starting in 1909 and it is him for which Fleming Way was named.
	A flagpole was erected as a war memorial but this caused a riot in 1919 and the stone cenotaph we have today was erected in 1920 as its replacement.
	Hurst Farm became the site of a council estate known as Pinehurst which had electricity and indoor toilets.
	King George V and Queen Mary visited the works on the 28th of April 1924 when it had its single highest point of employment at 14,269 people.
	Nice.
	So I presume the cinema is now that Weatherspoon's right on Regent Street, isn't it?
	What's it called?
	Not Cine World, Jack!
	What's it called?
	The Savoy, that's the one.
	That's the old cinema now.
	Yeah, it's a nice building.
	So, is that all the video I think?
	Oh no.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	you make. .
	Well done, man.
	Yeah, fair play.
	Looking good.
	Better than I could do.
	I hate deadlifts, but I do prefer them on the trap bar, so nice one.
	Okay, now we have some written comments.
	Are we alright?
	We have one extra Rumble rant that's coming.
	Okay.
	Do we have time, an extra five minutes or so, Jack?
	Okay, cheers.
	So we got an extra five minutes for written comments, because we did run over a little bit.
	Yeah, there we go.
	So Evan626 says, regarding your segment on blacks voting for Trump, I'm as right-wing and race-realist as they come, but I love it when black people agree with me.
	From the novelty of it, yeah, it's such a rare thing to tend to happen, so yeah, fair play.
	I quite like it when people agree with me.
	It doesn't happen too often, but I'll take it, yeah.
	Yeah, I'll read through some of my segment comments now.
	Russian garbage human starts off with the leftists destroyed a Colorado baker's entire existence for refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding.
	They gloated as a 75 year old man was blown to pieces by the FBI for making some off-color jokes about Biden online.
	They banned endless amounts of us from social media and lost the sums of money that cannot even be fathomed by doing so, and I'm supposed to feel bad for some of them being fired for wishing death upon my president and my fellow Americans.
	Not at all.
	They created this environment, this is the world they wanted to live in.
	And that's a quote from Joey Manario.
	So, I think very well put.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And he looks like he's made of soy.
	He doesn't have fragile masculinity.
	He's just fragile.
	Yeah, again, his joints are made of paper mache.
	So, no.
	George Happ, Destiny has participated in cancel culture for years.
	I will not defend his free speech and will not complain about him getting banned since those are his standards.
	When somebody behaves like an enemy, treat him like one.
	JonTron wins again.
	Yes!
	JonTron, keep winning.
	Bleach Demon.
	The argument on cancelling people I think is missing one of the major differences between when the left does it versus when the right does it.
	The left would get people fired, harassed, and stalked for what?
	Liking a meme, making a joke they didn't like, then crow about how you aren't free from consequences.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Remember the left was screeching when even...
	It's so pathetic isn't it?
	Right wingers don't do that because we have things to do.
	aren't public anymore and the reason they started screeching about that is because they loved trawling through official figures likes on twitter to see if there was anything a little bit too far that they could get them cancelled they not have anything better to do it's so pathetic isn't it right wingers don't do that because we have things to do we have jobs and families and a life we don't go through the internet to cancel people for things we disagree with because it's when you're not planning on passing your genes on to a next generation and with most of these people
	thank god that they're not uh that leaves that gives you a lot of free time when you're working probably part-time minimum wage as well and living in your parents basement now Now the Paragoons, I mean Paragons of Virtue on the right, don't want the left to pay the price for cheering death and destruction, for mocking a dead man who defended his family.
	Why should these people not get the reciprocity they richly deserve for some damned high moral road victory?
	All the while everything burns around them.
	No.
	Well put.
	Do you want to read some of yours?
	Sure.
	Grant Gibson says, I think now you're seeing 50 Cent come out, you might see a few more celebs and more chips might fall.
	Yeah, potentially.
	Billionaires have come out in favour.
	That's true, a lot of Silicon Valley have, yeah.
	Furious Dan says, orange is the new black, gents.
	Very, very clever.
	I've heard that joke before, yes.
	Roman Observer says, regarding black votes, I suppose that while being a small percentage of the population, they are quite concentrated in a few zones, mostly major cities, so any swing in that electorate might swing an entire electoral college.
	Remember, it's not a proportional voting system.
	That is true, yeah.
	Fair point.
	Interesting point, yeah.
	Michael Brooks says all Trump needs to do is start advocating for the legalisation of weed across America.
	I could see it happening.
	Josh would cheer it on.
	I would, yeah.
	I think it's pretty obvious.
	Arizona Desert Rat says honest opinion, it's racist to presume a person will vote a certain way based on their race.
	Yeah, well, you're judging people based on their skin colour, so by the definition of racism I suppose it is, but I'm beyond caring about racism now.
	It's such an empty word to me that I just don't care.
	Shall I do one final one before moving on to yours?
	TMK, out of context, I think you haven't mentioned that 50 Cent had a show last weekend during which he performed the song Many Men with art of its cover art, 50 Cent's upper body with broken glass effect with Trump's face instead of his as a background of the stage.
	I didn't know about this but I didn't really want to descend to the level of celebrity, celebritary, I can't even get it out.
	Celebratory.
	Or are you talking about celebrities?
	Commentary.
	I feel like that's the lowest of the low of journalism.
	Although it is sort of important, also 50 Cent doesn't have the cultural capital anymore, so it's not as significant as it might at first look, but it's still not nothing.
	Yeah.
	So Baron Von Warhawk has a really good one here.
	The man who is sexually aroused by thoughts of eyes popping out and people being hung is calling you evil.
	He actively wants to kill you and would gladly kill you if he had a commissar uniform.
	And he expects you to defend his freedom of speech when he has to face consequences for his opinions.
	Yeah.
	Destiny, fuck you.
	Matt D, I think there's a bit of a difference between saying I have questions about the efficacy of the COVID injection and saying that man I disagree with should be murdered.
	They've been getting away with this crap for so long that they don't know where the boundaries are.
	They've been like little children who get rewarded for bad behavior.
	Hopefully that'll change.
	And the only way to make people change when they can't listen to logical and reasoned arguments is to show them the consequences.
	And if these are the consequences, then hopefully they will learn.
	Presumably, they'll just screech and continue to break the law in terms and conditions on social media platforms in various different ways.
	But hopefully, again, we'll see more of the rules actually being applied to them, which is what I would like to see.
	And again, I think there's a... I'll finish on this.
	I think what goes on is a lot of the people who want to maintain the moral high ground think that any sort of application of their own morals and values is some kind of betrayal to the ultimate principle, which is...
	What?
	Which is what?
	Neutrality, maybe?
	Yeah, some kind of strange neutrality.
	Some kind of ultimate principle to an abstract notion of free speech, which is just letting anybody say whatever they want in any context at all times, no matter the consequences.
	And again, I believe in free speech.
	I'm a man of the West.
	I think that we absolutely should be able to have discussions on very important topics, but when the other side has been doing everything that they have been doing for a long time, and then they face consequences that they should have faced a long time ago because we establish rules, we establish boundaries in civil society, and these people finally run into those boundaries and face the consequences of them, if you turn around and say, no, we can't do that, it's against our principles, And I'm sorry, your principles aren't for free speech, your principles are for losing.
	I think that we've been on the defensive for so long that when we're finally on the attack, people have forgotten how to do it.
	And you know, when you're on the attack, you don't show mercy for people that would have cut your throat, in a hypothetical sense.
	In a literal sense.
	In a literal sense.
	Yeah, you show them a Proportionate consequence for that action.
	And I think I suppose on that note, we're going to have to end the podcast.
	However, we will be back tomorrow at one o'clock as always.
	Yes.

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