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Hello and welcome to the podcast The Lotus Eaters and I'm joined by Carl.
Hello.
And Stelios.
Hello.
And today we're going to be talking about the deportations being back on the menu, Ireland rising up, and Zoomers aren't ready to grow old.
I have a couple of announcements to make first, so we shall do them.
So this one being the first one here that we keep making, which is there are job opportunities.
So if you go to lotusseeders.com, go down to careers, you'll find these.
And the thing here is we're looking for people with skills in videography, audio, and editing available to work in the London or Swindon.
If you're interested in the full job specs, they're available at careers.
So, have a look at that.
Otherwise, the other announcement is it's gold tier Zoom call time.
It's the end of the month.
So, here it is.
So, at three o'clock UK time, we'll be doing the gold tier Zoom call.
And that will be...
Happen?
I don't know why...
That sentence wasn't going anywhere.
I don't know why you were talking.
No, no.
It's happening.
It's happening, Lloyd.
It's three o'clock.
All right.
And talk about stuff.
If you're a gold tier, join.
If not, you can't.
That's how that works.
let's go to the news shall we Why not?
Yeah, so deportations are back on the menu, which is good news.
Positive spins, positive life.
I didn't expect this to come out of anywhere because it's not the Germans talking about, you know, the not very pro-Israel people have got to be deported.
The Americans, they're the ones who've got the deportations on the mind.
Oh, really?
Yeah, so here's the poll.
Exclusive poll.
Americans are open to Trump's hardish, harshest immigration plans.
So this is them saying here that they did a poll and of the general public, you can see that 51% of the general public of the United States are open to mass deportations of undocumented immigrants.
45% of Latinos like, yeah, get Jose to go home and apply like I did, properly.
Get him out of here.
And as you can see that 42% of Democrat voters, 42% of Democrats like, yeah.
It reached their neighborhoods.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They arrived at Martha's Vineyard and suddenly like, wow.
Yeah, so I'll read this out for the listeners through our audio.
So the highest groups on racial lines, whites 56%, lowest percent is blacks at 40%, support mass deportations.
Republicans at 68%.
Sorry to interrupt, that's still a huge percent of the black community.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that's massive.
Like, the whole thing about all of this is that it's a huge sway of the public are on board for the harshest possible measures, which is all illegals have got to go.
Which doesn't sound that harsh in my opinion.
That sounds totally normal.
Sounds like implementing the law, which... pretty centrist.
That's why they're illegal.
Yeah.
So anyway, Republicans at 68%, support the law.
Democrats only 42.
Boomers, obviously, love the law.
Gen Z, less favorable of the law.
They're at 35.
I just don't understand why Generation Z in America are just like, yeah, well, no, they should all stay because, you know, they're taking the jobs that I would do.
Yeah, because lots of people don't want to work.
Not everyone.
Yeah, but some of them don't want to.
I think Gen Z do want to work.
I think they just don't have many options.
My understanding of the left-right divide by age group is that Gen Z are very left-wing, yes.
No, is that it's very new and it's a very unique aspect of the Anglosphere.
Like this wasn't the case in the United States decades ago.
It's not the case in Germany now.
Exactly.
It's a very unique circumstance.
It's a very unique circumstance of the particular place, this being the United States, the UK, Canada, Australia.
Probably because we all have the same problems.
I mean, indoctrination is going to be a factor.
The wealth disparity is going to be a factor.
We don't have any right-wing representation.
No, because there's gonna be all sorts of things going on, but it is weird, you're right.
But anyway, moving on.
So here's the article in question, which has all the deets, and in here you have the polling, which I've just read out, but then there's some more deets, and the more deets are the more interesting things.
Most people just look at the poll.
So here it is.
30% of Democrats, as well as 46% of Republicans, also say they'd end birthright citizenship now.
That's interesting.
46% of Republicans.
Yeah, yeah.
30% are Democrats.
Now, if you think that's a bit radical, because I know Americans think that birthright citizenship is kind of normal, it's not.
It's normal to them.
It's a very New World phenomenon.
I mean, you couldn't get more New World.
We're looking at a graph here.
It's literally New World.
The entire continent of Afro-Eurasia, with a few exceptions being, you know, post-colonial states, Pakistan has birthright citizenship.
They need it.
No one else is moving there, come on.
Oh yeah, we got you now!
You're on a layover on the way to China.
Out comes a baby, he's ours now.
Is Pakistan here?
Yeah.
So as you can see, it's only post-colonial states and the New World who are also post-colonial states.
The entire Old World, any Old World country pick them and they're just like, nope.
We do that.
Yeah.
You have to have a bloodline.
Yeah.
Is that like Colombia and Belize were just like, nope.
Yeah.
The only thing... Is that Haiti as well?
Uh, Haiti does not have... Yeah.
You're not allowed to stay in Haiti.
foreigner, no illegals.
Kind policy from them.
But as you can see, the slightly less Marouge ones, that's because if one of the parents has residency, that's all that is.
But again, that's meant to be no, we don't accept.
Speaking of Haiti, there are many people who would want to eat.
What, in general?
Yeah, no, I'm talking of barbecue, isn't it?
The generals.
So, if he says we have open borders, that's suspicious.
Satisfyingly xenophobic in Haiti.
Maybe it's more that you can't eat citizens, so you can't give them birthright citizenship.
Something like this.
But, getting back to the situation.
Sorry, just to go back, Papua New Guinea doesn't even have citizenship.
It's just grey.
It's like citizenship.
What are you talking about?
Well, I think that's no data because you've got Svalbard and Greenland as well.
Same problem.
Tunisia has no data.
What's going on there?
Who knows?
Who cares?
We're getting back to the situation because the argument was, or at least the question was, do you support mass deportation?
What does that look like?
Because it's in the millions is what it needs to look like.
That's the proposal because we've gone over this before.
Here it is.
Here's the graph.
You can see the blue line is when Trump was in and then you can see when he left.
Cause it goes up.
This is Southwest land border encounters by month.
And then every single month Joe Biden has been in office.
It has been ridiculously high.
Yeah.
Now accounting for, I think about 8 million people have invaded the United States by the staggering numbers.
That's just by the Southern border as well.
Yeah.
Nevermind overstaying visas.
Nevermind the new problem of, I don't know if you heard, but yesterday we discovered 30,000 Indians have illegally entered and were stopped at the Canadian US border.
It doesn't surprise me, actually, now that you say it.
Two years ago, it was 2,000.
This year, it was 30,000.
Basically, loads of Indians went to Canada and then went, this sucks.
So, yeah, you've got that problem to deal with.
Never mind people overstaying visas, other routes in which you could come.
So, yeah, it has to be at least 8 million, at a minimum, just to get rid of Biden.
It's gonna be way more.
Yeah, but just to get rid of Biden's illegals.
8 million people you're talking about here.
So there's a list of claims as to why people feel this from Axios.
They say there's a crime wave, there's concerns about drugs, concerns about terrorism, concerns about fraud in the system.
Some, I assume, are good people.
That's Axios speaking there.
But then they have this article where they talk about Trump's plan, which is what they're scaring about.
When you go back to that original one, they have a link that's like, this is all about Trump's plan.
Good.
Good.
Advertise it more.
I didn't know he had one.
Now did I?
Great.
Great job by Axios.
Yeah.
Hey guys, beware.
Trump's going to deport all the illegals.
And everyone's like, great.
Because that's the other thing is the campaign of build the wall.
But now the wall.
Too late for that.
Yeah.
The wall couldn't, didn't get the funding it needed.
So now the barbarians have bypassed the partially built wall.
Okay.
Well, we've got to kind of get rid of the invading army and that's the case here from the Trump campaign.
Xerxes wish he had an army like this.
If elected, Trump wants to mobilize ICE agents alongside the FBI, Drug Enforcement Administration, federal prosecutors, and the National Guard are going to be called in, even at the state and local level enforcement officers, to carry out deportations of undocumented immigrants, a source familiar with the plan told Axios.
Yeah.
They say the estimated number would be in the millions.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Just Joe Biden's assault would be eight million.
So yeah, that's perfectly reasonable.
Yeah.
That's a totally normal thing for any country that has massive immigration, legal immigration to do.
I mean, look at Pakistan.
Yeah.
They got rid of millions of Afghans in a single day.
Was it Azerbaijan?
Got rid of the Armenians?
Yeah.
That was a bit different.
Not so much deportation as displacement.
Oh, right.
I didn't look into it.
Yeah.
We've been on this land for a thousand years.
Not anymore.
Yeah.
The point is, you know, it's something that everyone else does.
Yeah.
So they say here Trump would curtail the usual multi-step deportation process by using obscure sections of the 1798 Alien and Sedition Acts to immediately round up and deport millions of migrants, especially those with criminal histories.
Do they not have laws about, like, borders in America?
Modern laws.
Only in 1798, apparently.
You need to have borders to have laws about borders.
Good point.
Yeah, no, that's a fair point.
Very true.
I didn't think about that.
They go on to say the plan includes the military would build massive sites near the border to hold people waiting deportation.
It could invoke scenes from the 1950s.
This is them trying to scare you.
1950s?
Yes, when more than a million undocumented Mexican immigrants, so a million illegal aliens from Mexico, were deported by President Eisenhower.
Why was that bad?
I thought they were going to invoke the Holocaust?
No.
It's kind of weird how delusional I think... I don't even know what to call them.
Probably this is even the center left position in the United States now, that they think that borders shouldn't exist.
And therefore they're like, man, do you remember the fifties when we used to get rid of illegal aliens?
It was terrible!
I remember when Barack Obama was in charge and used to get rid of illegal Yeah, this isn't new.
It's fun because there are clips both of Obama and Biden denouncing illegal migrants in the past.
Every Democrat up until right now had previously done this.
But Bill Clinton's border policy is literally Donald Trump's border policy.
Yeah, except with more deportations.
They say here, it was the largest deportation operation in US history.
The vast majority of Americans today have never seen anything like it.
Yes!
And that's the problem!
We've noticed!
Trump has made similar promises in the past, but deportation levels during his presidency never reached what they were under Barack Obama.
That's them writing it.
Based Obama.
Again, this isn't exactly like a fear tactic.
Like, my God, he's going to set up concentration camps.
It's like, do you know he'll do what Obama did?
Trump's campaign promises are, I'm going to be like Obama.
Yeah, that's that's part of the plan.
All right.
Besides the Eisenhower deportation, Trump's plan also alludes to the forced repatriation of Mexicans in the 1930s.
Oh, God, they're going to send them back to Mexico.
Yeah.
It's worse than death.
Yes, we can.
Yeah.
So 40% of the 10 million, again, undocumented immigrants, no, illegal aliens.
Yeah.
They're illegal aliens.
It's invaders.
Criminal aliens.
Yeah.
Actual invaders.
Criminal aliens that definitionally committed a crime.
So 4 million Mexican invaders are in the United States today with Mexican nationality, and they're going to be sent back.
So the group that were most likely targeted are Mexican, to be right, with an estimated 2 million from Central America as well.
It's like, okay, well that's 60% of the problem solved.
You can't send me back to where I was born and raised.
Why?
You'll be fine.
Your mom still lives there.
They say, unlike the mass deportations in the past, however, there would be pushback today from democratic-led states, well-organized Latino advocacy... I can't say the word.
Advocacy.
There we are.
Groups and sanctuary cities, which is really the giveaway.
It's like, okay, so this whole thing is you trying to scare us.
And what it is, is you're like, man, Donald Trump will do what Eisenhower and Obama did, which is enforce the law.
But these days, the Democratic Party, a bunch of ethnic advocacy groups and sanctuary cities are going to stop us.
Yeah, I mean, the U.S.
is full of treason.
That's a good admission.
They say here, top policymakers acknowledge that immigrants, including those who have recently crossed the border illegally, have also played a role in easing inflation, though.
How?
I'm not sure either.
So this is where they've laid out the plan.
They tried to scare you.
And now here's the bullshit.
There's probably some truth to it, right?
Because like, you know, too much money, not enough goods.
But if we create more people, so they need more goods, then it probably does spread the money we just printed out.
But that's a bad solution to a bad policy.
Yeah, also I'm not sure I actually believe that 10 million illegal aliens suddenly increase goods supply.
Well, it increases demand, demand increases supply.
Unless there's a shortage.
Yeah, let's assume there's some kind of legitimacy to that.
That doesn't mean we should abandon law, and that was just a bad idea in the first place.
Yeah, I think that's making crack, personally.
I'm just trying to steel man their position.
Will they steel man it by say?
I don't know.
Why not?
The reason these 10 million invaders have kept down inflation is because a rebounding supply of workers has helped heal the acute labor shortage in recent years that drove up wages.
They've been sending all the money outside of the US economy.
Did you hear what they just said there?
Yeah.
The 10 million illegals have kept down inflation by keeping wages low.
Wow, great, thanks!
Thank you so much for doing your duty and stealing our money.
You kept everyone's wages down.
More of this, please.
But that's such a great admission because they always try to frame it, oh no, immigration doesn't depress wages.
Except for when it's good that immigration depressed wages.
Because it kept inflation down.
Yeah, just imagine how much you'd have to pay for bread and milk.
Instead of getting a pay rise.
Imagine if you got paid more, that would be terrible anyway.
Vote Joe Biden.
They then end this off.
That's really their argument.
Yeah, I mean, they then end this off.
I mean, I love how they write this thing as well, because they just, yes, but, and then write some crap, and then state of play.
Yes, but, it's a good thing.
Yeah, so they're right here at the end.
Don't forget, recent deportation surges damaged some local economies.
For example, in 2011, when President Barack Obama deported a bunch of people from Alabama, They ended up with some crops rotting in the fields.
We have to go back 13 years to find a problem.
Yeah, but also... I don't care about that problem.
This is how the UK became the joke it is, though.
This inability to have any imagination.
Instead, it's basically, we will live life as we are, not increase productivity.
Because you see this online.
I'm sure you've seen this video popping around.
And this person here...
So it's a video of a guy throwing tomatoes.
He's a tomato chucker.
And he's chucking his tomatoes in the back of this truck here.
And it says, unskilled labor is a capitalist myth because he's very good at chucking tomatoes.
I mean, that is a skill.
It is indeed.
But you know what...
It's not the slave days anymore.
We have machines.
They'll do the tomato chucking for you.
And guess what?
You only have to employ two guys, one to drive the truck, one to drive the machine, and all of a sudden you've got massive productivity increase.
That is true.
I just, I don't have a counter argument.
I'm trying to still man that position.
Well, have you thought about the guy who's learned the skill of chucking tomatoes?
I think that robot's more skilled.
Take the guy, pay a minimum wage, and then calculate how much that truck costs, and how much it'll run, you know, maintenance charges, all that.
Would you be saving money?
The answer's yes.
The answer's yes every time.
Callum, what you're doing is making sure that guy has to retrain as like a scientist or a doctor or a lawyer or something.
I would like the United States not to go down the same path as the UK, yes.
Actually have some skilled and productivity increases.
Because, guess what?
That's how you get growth.
That's how you get higher wages.
Instead, they just want to live in the slave days.
Where we just employ, what?
I presume... Who's got the lowest wages in the world?
Is it Bangladeshis?
I don't know.
Something like that.
We're going to end up importing... Some Central American.
It's South Sudan, surely, actually.
So we'll import South Sudan to Alabama.
Back on the plantations.
To be on the plantations, chucking tomatoes.
Or, we buy robot.
I love the Democrats.
I'm no sympathy at all, I swear to God.
It's all just the long con.
To get back on top.
But yeah, I just, I'm so bored.
I mean, there is like, you ran out of words there because there is no counter argument.
Well, I don't really have an argument.
Why wouldn't you use the machine?
I just love that the Democrats are like, but if you pick the cotton and the Republicans are thinking, have you heard of Tractor?
Tractor go burr.
And then we don't need so many cotton pickers.
And then what if we get a machine that picks the cotton?
Democrats are this close to being like, doesn't a man have a right to his own property?
Every black in America deserves... Every illegal in America deserves... A slavery job!
Okay?
Right.
Well, that's the thing.
That's why I stopped because it was kind of going down that road.
It's like, hmm, he deserves to be on a farm picking and doesn't have a choice.
Sorry.
Yeah.
I just, I can't, I can't deal with this debate anymore.
The United States seems to have run out of steam on this because of course you can see other people jumping on this poll and everything else.
So this is Vivek here coming out and giving some speech where he's like, deport millions of illegal aliens now.
Yeah.
Yeah, good news.
I mean, him saying it doesn't mean much, of course.
No, but it's just the argument that is pretty much irrefutable at this point.
Yeah.
It's also eminently doable because, as we have here, back in Bill Clinton's time, he deported 1.8 million people.
Yeah.
I mean, you've got a giant bureaucracy with... I think the United States bureaucracy is like the biggest organization on earth.
Yeah.
Something like 4 million people indirectly or directly employed by the United States government.
Unless you count the Chinese government, maybe.
They probably employ more people.
No, no, no.
The Chinese army is the second to 3 million people.
And then it's the NHS, I think, with a million, 1.2 million, something like that.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
NHS, man.
But it's been 20 years, so you would have thought productivity, you know, the ability to support people would have ramped up.
The technological advantages we have now.
Mass biometric checks, passports are way better.
You have better logs of where people are, security systems, everything else.
So $2 million for Bill Clinton.
I mean, that's... You've got a giant bureaucracy.
They can do it.
Yeah, $8 million for even just another four years.
That should be doable.
Eminently doable.
They're going to start the, you know, systemic inequalities argument again in the Senate.
Even ourselves, even our party did this.
So there's no consistency there.
Yeah, yeah.
They may freely admit this and...
And just say we're on.
It's a historical fact.
But here's some other stuff.
I want everyone to keep in mind, those advantages in deportations, of course, bureaucracy hasn't exactly progressed much, but the airline industry in those 20 years has become real good at making cheap budget airlines, particularly Ryanair, who are signing up to help every nation they can deport foreigners.
Thank you for your service, Ireland.
Absolute patriots at Ryanair.
Yeah.
Do you remember Ryanair was advocating for standing planes?
Yeah, yeah.
So it was for trips across the Irish Sea from England to Ireland to take about an hour.
And what you would do is you would stand, hold on to a rail like you're on a bus.
And he said if we did that... Honestly, that doesn't even sound like a bad idea.
Well, he said if we did that, we could offer the tickets at £1 per flight.
That's cheaper than a bus ticket.
Yeah.
God, that's, you know, 50 times cheaper than the train ticket.
But I can't get over how insanely good the airline industry has been at making their services affordable.
Like it is actually, I know that- Yeah.
There's not much leg room anymore and everything else, but now you can fly all over the world if you go on kiwi.com for like 20 quid to other parts of Europe because of these people.
So if they can help join in with deporting 8 million, I mean, that's, you know, a billion dollar contract for them.
Just saying, Ryanair, do your duty.
Yeah.
There's also obviously the easy excuse for if we want to get rid of these people.
So this is, uh, going back to Britain real quick.
This is, uh, Khalid.
Oh yeah.
Hajj Asad.
Oh yeah.
Now, he here was wearing a Hamas bandana.
No worse than displaying an England flag.
Yeah, anyway, he went to jail for that.
Well, he's gone to court, I should say, not jail.
He's getting sentenced because that's a crime.
Now, of course, that's a very good reason to support someone breaking the Terrorism Act.
You would think.
And I'm thinking in the United States, they're quite touchy on that subject.
So if you wanted to pitch the mass deportations, here's the easy way to get the United States, at least elites on charge, which is this guy here celebrating that the government's going to ban TikTok.
The reason being that Hamas and pro-Palestinian videos on TikTok have more reach than the top 10 US news outlets combined.
Which, that's the reason to ban TikTok.
Okay.
Right.
All the anti-white stuff wasn't interesting.
This is why you're doing it.
Cool.
And they also have just said this publicly, in case you're wondering.
So this is Fox News reporting here.
Foreign students could face harsher penalties than suspension for anti-Israel rioting.
This is the Department of Homeland Security speaking.
Well, wouldn't they flog them?
No, they're just going to deport them.
Oh, okay.
Look around here, here's the senator.
Immediately deport all foreign students studying in the USA that support Hamas.
I mean... That's what it takes to actually get the law implemented in the US.
Yeah, it just goes to show exactly who's protected in America and who isn't.
Yeah, so there we are.
There's the plan.
Most Americans support it, and if you need further support from the elites, just point out that foreigners kind of like Hamas, which the Americans don't.
That's a big cultural divide.
Anyway, there we are.
Let's move on!
Ireland.
Right.
Europe has always been a tragic continent, and now there is a new tragedy when it comes to the EU and its member states.
And Ireland is right now suffering from a woke government that is trying to play by EU's rules, rules that are completely unpopular with its people.
Now, one thing to say is that there is a place called Newtown Mount Kennedy, That has been targeted to become a center for refugees and asylum seekers.
And obviously no one was asked.
And this also comes at a time where the Irish government suffered a humiliating defeat with two referendums.
So they just seem to be willing to flex their muscles and show the people that they really don't care about them.
So we have here several videos, you see people wake up, walk out their houses and the police is telling them, you know.
You alright there Callum?
Yeah, just seeing what's trending.
Okay, sorry.
Average trail on Twitter.
Just a quick side, by the way.
I've been arguing some of the pro-immigration activists, Irish activists, on Twitter.
And there's this one piece of propaganda they keep putting around where they show the Irish Patriots and then the British Hand puppeteering them.
And it's like, oh god, you are so dense.
Because, I mean, A, Bro, do you think we're in control of anything?
We're not even in control of Britain, okay?
Like, there's no way we're in control of Ireland as well.
But the thing is, underneath these, like, you know, none of these guys are even locals!
It's like, neither are the refugees, you dumbass.
You know, he's like, literally, refugees welcome!
These local activists aren't even local!
The whole thing is preposterous, right?
Just to make it very, very clear, the anti-refugee sentiment comes from precisely the same place as the anti-British sentiment.
We didn't need to stir this up.
It's the reason you kicked us out.
Anyway, sorry, carry on.
Right, so there were some cases of violence here.
I'll show you just some bits here.
They would never turn up dressed like that at a pro palace dinner.
Well...
If you'll just see here, we have just a group of police officers who are just going to attack you.
Literally armoured, unlike their Roman legionaries.
Armour, batons, scutons.
You'll see that they're just going to... Roman legionaries?
Batons?
Well, they have batons.
They took their orders... The shields are huge.
Their auguries told them that after the last moment they should attack.
And you see here...
Yeah, so you see that there have been, we'll leave that plain, but you know just the police is also pepper spraying them and they also pepper spray the journalists.
It's just Just remarkable how much they lack care about the people they're supposed to represent.
And they do this also in the name of representing the people.
And you'll see, for instance, they have officials like Helen McEntee, who constantly talks about we.
Yeah, but they're representing the people, just not the people of Ireland.
They're representing everyone else.
Yes.
Yeah.
Now let's watch other stuff here.
Now, Andy Ngo says breaking people in Newtown, Mount Kennedy.
This is to the south of Dublin.
Ireland are rioting after they learned that their community would host a migrant center.
Sorry, I have to insert myself again.
No, no, it's called direct action, okay?
I've been told by the left repeatedly that these kind of interventions are actually called direct action, Andy.
It's not riots.
When people you like are doing it.
Well, the left also says that if you would expect people not to do it, you are just a bigot.
Yeah.
That's, you know, in a sense, that's a tragedy because when you have a populace that you constantly disrespect, at some point this is bound to happen, whether we like it or not, whether we think it's justified or not, whatever the acts of protest are going to happen, if there is building resentment, they will happen, whether we like them or not.
So, you know, you could say even that, even if you disagree with actions taken here, and, you know, there are all sorts of protest acts that are unjustified, the question is to what extent the government is directly or indirectly responsible.
And I think that after a while, when there is building resentment, it just becomes like a natural When the government's been denouncing the Irish for being racist, for wanting Ireland for the Irish, and then forcibly putting illegal immigrants onto them.
Yeah, I think you can understand where the resentment's coming from.
Yes, exactly.
Every colonial government ends up having this.
You suppress the native population and rule like, well, a viceroy.
What do you think is going to happen?
But also one interesting thing is that shows that people are talking about culture in a completely abstract sense and they're not paying attention to the actual culture here is that all this is done in Ireland in the name of anti-colonialism in a way.
And Ireland didn't exactly have the colonialist past that other countries had.
Yeah, what you can do is be like, oh, Ireland deserves it because of their empire.
It's like, no.
Well, that shows the level of, you know, preposterousness or the rhetoric that is employed to justify this.
Yeah.
But I never see the pro-migrant types trying to use that angle on Ireland because it just wouldn't work.
Yeah.
See, Ireland was the victim of colonialism, not the perpetrator.
They did.
Do you remember the Parliament speeches?
Oh, no.
We played this compilation.
It's a bunch of Irish MPs, left-wing MPs, of course, talking about their white privilege.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that's not the same as saying, well, Ireland deserves this because of its empire, which is literally what they say about Britain.
OK, I get where you're coming from.
So there's here a media reporter from GRIP who was pepper sprayed.
Again, we have no sound.
If we had, you would hear her.
Warning the police that she's from the media.
and you'll see now that they're going to pepper spray her.
It's so as far as everything is possible.
On the other side of those police, there's going to be a bunch of journalists from a regime approved networks who will get completely protected.
Your pepper spray press!
The groups, of course, are dissident networks and they get what they deserve.
Your pepper spray press!
Now we have...
Now we have...
Now we have Helen McEntee talking about misinformation regarding mass migration in Ireland.
And she's saying that actually, if Ireland doesn't pass the EU Migration Pact, Migration Mena Salum Pact, There's going to be more migration in Ireland.
That's effectively what she's telling them.
If you don't allow unlimited migration now, there's just going to be unlimited migration later.
Yes, exactly.
Can we open door number three?
I want to see what's in the box.
For Helps Ireland, we've got a goddamn Navy and we can't stop them.
I have some data about the EU pact on migration and asylum, and I want to show you just some phrases that I'm sure you're going to appreciate.
Isn't it wild how they're not even trying to reason with them.
Now it's just threats.
You just don't do this now.
We're just going to send more later.
Just accept now.
It's like, hang on a second.
That's not how discourse works.
It's not diplomacy.
That's how the mafia works.
Yeah, it's how the mafia works, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
And that is why there is building resentment and why lots of Irish people are being threatened by their own government officials.
Yeah, so let's see what We are being told here by these officials.
It says, in terms of external action, the IRC, like many other human rights organizations, lawyers, academics and policymakers, has cautioned about the risk of a disproportionate focus on stopping people from reaching Europe that could increase the vulnerability of displaced people and undermine efforts to address the underlying drivers of migration.
So there are worries in people's minds that the EU migration pact is going to make migration more difficult?
Hang on a sec.
Well, I mean, hang on, hang on.
I'm talking about the risks of disproportionate focus on stopping people from reaching Europe.
Risks to who?
So it would be risks to the Irish, would it?
If these people don't get to Europe, then it's not Ireland's problem or Europe's problem.
It's their problem back where they live.
And that's not my problem because we're not an empire anymore.
Yes, but they are trying to utilize the risk, especially when there are losses, and they're trying to capitalize on it.
Don't come!
It's dangerous!
So, Europe is now at a crossroads.
It can either move ahead with the policies of deterrence and exclusion... Sold!
It will simply drive more people onto dangerous journeys.
I don't see how that is.
I think that's a mistake, because if there is a tough border policy, that is going to disincentivize people from trying to do it.
So this is a blatant lie.
And it says, "...and will simply drive more people onto dangerous journeys or choose to lead by example, advancing safe pathways and safeguarding the rights of refugees and asylum seekers in a spirit of global humanitarian leadership." But look how airy that is.
It's like, well, we could safeguard the rights of refugees and asylum seekers in the spirit of global humanitarian leadership.
It's not leadership.
I don't even care.
Just piss off.
No, this is just like saying, allow your population, the native population, to slowly be replaced.
This is like Ethelred just being like, oh, I'll take all my money.
That's not leadership.
No.
That's cuckoldry.
Yes.
But also, they're appealing to some sort of ethereal liberal ideal of the brotherhood of man all across the globe.
It's like, piss off.
Not my problem.
Elon Musk understands this and he says, the axiomatic error undermining much of Western civilization is weak makes right.
If someone accepts explicitly or implicitly that the oppressed are always the good guys, then the natural conclusion is that the strong are the bad guys.
Well, in some cases that's also not applicable, because you could say that in this case the EU is stronger in a sense than Ireland, but still, the rhetoric is based on what he says here, and the people who are presented as being Let's say the weak are those who seek refuge in Europe.
And I want to say something here because there's a lot of wordplay with the stuff.
A lot of people now are opening a debate about distribution.
And they're saying there are wealth inequalities and there needs to be distribution.
And the debate is whether The people who are going to receive benefits from that distribution are going to be understood primarily in terms of being natives or in terms of the global world.
And a lot of people behind these policies, they are saying distribution needs to take place.
And when they say this, the question is, from whom are you going to take and to whom are you going to give?
So the idea of being rich and being poor, in this case, leads a lot of European people who are, you could say, in the poor scale to count as rich.
And a lot of the narrative from the EU and also globalist institutions, they propagate the narrative that we need to take from those Europeans, whether they are simple people, Or and give to those who count as the least well-off conceived of in global terms.
So it's a way of saying Europe is very rich.
It got rich because it robbed the whole world.
So Europe needs to lead a humanitarian revolution in giving things back.
But the point is that some people who get rich are very woke, so they're safely putting their... I just love that that has to apply to, like, Finland.
Sorry, who did Finland rob to get their saunas?
Some guy from Africa or something.
He's like, that was my sauna.
No, it wasn't.
What are you talking about?
Why would you need a sauna?
This is preposterous!
I'm sorry!
Anyway, so here, Neil Boylan, who's for about 30 years a podcaster, and he's now going to actively seek a position in politics.
He asks, who bears responsibility for these heated outbursts?
Who is ignoring the majority of the population when it comes to immigration?
Who shoulders the blame for social division?
Who's accountable for fear and frustration in local communities?
Et cetera, et cetera.
Neil is not a part of our democracy, I see.
Well, that's interesting.
Evil populist.
That's interesting.
And that's a very good question because the question here is who counts as we?
Yeah.
Who counts as our, what is our democracy referring?
And here we have essentially, you know, this is a familiar face.
So we have this, uh, here says Irish fascists are Irish traitors.
Republicans against fascism.
It's Britain.
Yeah.
And we're not, we're not fascists either.
Yeah.
And it's the tweet you were mentioning.
Yeah.
But he's like, you know, in it, in fact, if you go into it, he, um, uh, it doesn't work.
So if you click on it, John, um, because he goes on about like, yeah, show more, like, you know, they ain't locals.
It's like, well, neither of the bloody refugees welcome that you're refugee welcoming.
Well, that's interesting now, because a lot of debate is going on, a lot of propaganda, sorry, not debate, about who is we.
And if you remember, Helen McEntee was constantly saying, we want a New Ireland, we want to change the definition of motherhood, we want to change the definition of care, and who deserves care as So she said this and close to 75% of Irish people disagreed with her.
I'm really sorry, but I'm totally distracted by the absolute clown show that is this propaganda.
The British are behind Ireland First.
Not historically.
The Irish Freedom Party, not generally.
I don't know what NP is, but I'm sure it's some other brand of nationalist party.
This has generally been the opposite of the British opinion on Ireland.
I won't say that.
I think that one of the countries that are going to have problems with immigration soon is Iceland.
But if you see it's from, you know, from lots of countries to Europe, from France to England, if that's from England to there.
So the Irish are going to just send people to Iceland.
I just love the idea.
And then to Greenland.
I just love that they really think that the British are behind the Irish nationalist movement.
It's just so dumb.
God, I wish.
It's just so funny.
Yeah, but this is yet another... Sorry, the British who are occupied by the globalist government led by Rishi Sunak are like, yeah, Ireland first.
This is yet another effort of destruction though, because it just constantly implies that the government is never responsible for anything.
They want power without responsibility.
Or that there's no such thing as any kind of grassroots pushback.
Yes, exactly.
There can never be grassroots pushback, because it's unheard of.
People who want to maintain their identity.
Where have you ever read that in history?
What if the island never wanted self-governance?
Yeah, and one thing to show, unfortunately, the new Taoiseach Simon Harris says we are going to pass the hate speech bill.
I mean, didn't... yeah, okay, fair enough.
Yeah, so apparently Helen McEntee and Simon Harris are telling the Irish people, you will You will suffer infinite migration or it's going to be worse.
And they seemed as if they wanted to say that the hate speech bill was bad enough and they need to rework it.
But now they say, no, we're going to pass it.
So you're going to criminalize you for criticizing it.
Yeah.
You're not going to be allowed to criticize it.
Yeah.
So, and to end with a, with a point that at some point, whether you think it's justified or not, Um, when resentment, uh, crosses a particular threshold, uh, resistance is just mathematically and mathematically inevitable consequence, whether you like it or not.
So the main people who are responsible for these events are the Irish government.
Yep.
True.
Yeah, obviously true.
If they weren't doing this to the Irish people, that wouldn't be a problem they would come up with.
Anyway.
Let's move on.
Um, so I thought I'd continue my epistle to the zoomers.
Um, don't worry.
It gets worse is basically the message.
Um, but, uh, there are loads of these sorts of articles.
Gen Zed is already worried about looking old.
So you're 25 and the oldest calm down.
Um, and this, I, I do feel bad for generation Zed, um, because I actually do think that they've been put in a historical position where.
Things are going to happen to them that they have no social institutions to instruct them on how to deal with these things.
Because like people of my age or your age, Callum is a Zoomer, we had like old sayings and like people around who knew how these things were going to work, right?
But the Zoomers have been actually kind of disconnected from this kind of historical past and so live forever in the moment.
And there's an add to that, the sort of narcissistic nature of social media.
You end up with a generation that's used to seeing their own faces a lot.
And if your face is young and beautiful, then you start noticing wrinkles.
And every single day you see the wrinkles on your own face.
And I think this does apply more to women than I have to say.
Uh, then you get this kind of effect.
Uh, for instance, uh, an influencer called Emma Brooks had never really worried about aging until she turned 20.
20?
20?
Yeah.
What?
Well, I mean, there are some bad people who think that's too old.
Even Leonardo DiCaprio is like, you know, you're not past your prime yet, love.
Just 20.
She says, I started freaking out.
I look different than I did two years ago.
How am I going to look in five years?
When you're 25?
I'm nearly 45.
Thank you.
Like what is going on?
The oldest among them is around 26.
Gen Z is already anxious about looking older.
Prevention rather than correction has become the status quo.
They're opting for makeup products with anti-aging benefits, like fine line reduction.
Just a bunch of stuff, basically.
I'm not even going to go through it.
And this is a growing market for Generation Z, so it's all like, you know, skincare products and preventive aging nonsense and stuff like this, right?
I mean, like, I noticed that we're looking at the beauty section of CNN.
Sure.
I don't know if it's in here, but I can't help but wonder whether or not this is a big push by beauty manufacturers to sell more shit.
Their shit is just not interesting.
I think that they're actually, I mean, don't get me wrong, maybe, But it's not just this in CNN.
There are lots of other things.
Oh, no, that's what I mean.
Like, usually when something like this happens, there's a whole industry wide campaign.
Well, I mean, there's always been an industry wide campaign from the beauty industry to make women feel like they're getting ugly and getting old and they need their products.
I mean, that's what the entire industry is.
But there's also the body positivity thing that says it's OK to be... Well, they don't say it's OK to not fulfill standards.
Yeah, but they don't tend to praise being old.
They tend to praise being fat.
So it's not that the beauty industry isn't involved in any of this.
That's what I mean.
You can see beauty industry advisor at Sirkana over there.
Absolutely.
But I do think in a lot of ways they are responding to this particular desire of the Zoomers because the Zoomers The Zoomers are actually the ones living in the end of history, right?
Like, we thought that Gen X was living in the end of history, but not really.
The Zoomers are the ones who are You're kind of habitually trained to think you're going to be forever young.
You know, you've got all the sort of filters, you've got all this social media representation and recognition when you're very young.
So you feel like this is going to be timeless, right?
How does this relate to not feeling you're getting old?
Well, because you see yourself Essentially perfect all day, every day.
And this creates an image in your own mind.
I mean, do you remember when Texas banned Instagram filters?
Women started freaking out.
For a month, Texas banned Instagram filters, and women were really upset because they got to see their own faces.
And their own faces didn't match what they'd built up in mind, because on Instagram, the filtered face, they're like, oh, I'm actually attractive.
It's like, you're a bit mid, actually.
But the point is, this is really upsetting a lot of Gen Z women.
And I'm very sympathetic to that.
You don't look very sympathetic to that.
I'm never sympathetic, but I'm also thinking, is this not just the newest version of that?
Like, I get very bored of this idea that there's something unique about this group of young people.
It seems to me when you look at history, it's the same situation, but exaggerated by technological progress.
That is true.
I mean, I'm not saying that women haven't always worried about growing up.
And obviously, like you say, the beauty industry has always done this.
But the mirror of technology and the videos, the constant seeing of yourself on social media, this is definitely Exponential growth.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I imagine a larger cohort of Gen Z are on social media than millennials, Gen X, boomers, etc, etc.
And they're on it from a younger age, so they're constantly looking at themselves.
So if you're like 15 and you're looking at yourself and you've got the ultra smooth face of a 15 year old, I guess maybe when you get to 20 and you see the very first line that appears that no one else would ever see, you're like, oh my God, it's over.
Might as well eat this shotgun.
Well, this was actually sparked by the suicide.
The reason I started looking at this thing, the suicide of a 29 year old New York woman.
She left a note and nobody knows why she actually killed herself.
And I don't think it was over this, but that was the way that women on Twitter started responding to it.
They go, well, I mean, you know, everyone's telling us, you know, a non-account is telling us that, you know, we're past our prime at 25.
She was 29.
Why shouldn't she kill herself?
I don't think that's why she did it.
That's why I didn't include it in this.
But there are people thinking this.
And I was like, look guys, it's not over actually.
I think that shows more about them.
That they narcissistically wanted to use that event to propagate.
Of course it is.
Because they have no idea why she did it.
But the point is, this is something on their minds.
Women are more narcissistic as well.
And so the combination of these things is a definite sort of perfect storm in Gen Z, where literally they're like, I'm 20, it's over.
I'm going to be haggard at 25.
And so I just, I really do think this is a social media effect.
And the answer is, of course, just get off social media, but what?
I'm 27, I'm a spent force!
Not even joking.
And so you get people like True Beauty Ventures founder, Christina Nuance, who says, it's a bit of a juxtaposed generation.
On one hand, they're about body positivity, authenticity, credibility.
Then the other side, they're very focused on anti-aging.
And put use filters, put emphasis on perfection, because of course, the more perfect a picture you put up on Instagram, the more likes you're going to get, you know, the more amazing responses and feedback you're going to get.
And so this is the kind of hyper reality of social media versus the reality of you're a human being and you get old.
That is also a choice though.
I'm not saying it's not a choice.
No, no, it's just it annoys me when people are like, oh, I've got to, I've got to post my face because then I get likes.
It reminds me of when you're listening to OnlyFansGirl saying, well, of course I've got to do this.
I got to pay the bills.
Can work in a factory.
Can work in the warehouse.
I totally agree.
I totally agree.
But you know, that's a different conversation.
This is the paradigm they're in.
I'd like to engage them on the terms of what they're talking about.
Because I think, you know, fair enough, like they bought into all of this because it was popular.
It's what everyone's doing.
You know, it's normal.
It's the zeitgeist.
And so to expect Uh, you know, a 16 year old girl to be like, ah, I'm, I'm too wise to go on Instagram or TikTok and get likes for dancing and come on.
Right.
Normal, normal women are going to do this and then they're going to get to 25 and realize, my God, it's so over.
How has this happened?
I mean, one plastic surgeon has been pointing out that he's seen an uptick in younger people seeking out various things on their faces and we've covered the um bog pilling of very attractive women where they get the buckle fat removal and so and it's like what is wrong with you you know like why is like what was it megan fox like megan fox one of the most desirable women in the world took the bog pill it's like what are you doing
i i won't say this is gonna sound a bit mean but after a while some of them just they they do it and it's just i find it funny especially you know the the weird old lady who wanted to look like a cat She completely destroyed her face with Botox and stuff.
Yeah, but the point is, if you're under 25, you definitely don't need Botox or lip fillers or any of that nonsense.
How will I look 15?
Just remember the old days.
Hello ladies, are you losing your 16 year old looks?
This is the problem.
As another person points out, Generation Z are very, very much the sharing generation.
They live vicariously through the internet.
They are very bourgeois and they live in the opinions of others in their comment sections and all the likes, right?
And it's like, okay, you know, I've never been that way.
In my opinion, I really don't care what that guy thinks.
You do.
And so they are very concerned when, you know, when they're 20 or sorry, younger than 20, 18, and they're getting like heaps of likes for being a beautiful 18 year old.
They get to 20, they get the first line and they're like, God, my life is over.
Everyone's going to stop liking me.
I need the elixir of youth.
Yeah, exactly.
And so they seem to be genuinely... You see that line there?
Things I do to slow the aging process as a 14 year old.
Yeah, it's actually kind of mad.
What I think that is really bad is that one of the tragedies with Gen Z, and I'm not saying that Gen Z is bad or something because that's a generalization or something, is I think they're parents.
A lot of them are progressive parents and they try to just tell them and raise them in horrible ways.
And they think that they have to live very fast They feel that, for instance, if they are, let's say 18 and they haven't done things that, you know, in the previous generation, 30 year olds would do.
Yeah.
That they have sort of missed the train of life.
Yeah.
They have to mature very quickly.
And, um, this has made them, uh, as this article points out, just very afraid of aging.
Uh, and it's like, it never, it never crossed my mind when I was young.
You know, like I was well into my thirties before I thought about aging.
And now it's cool.
That was Gilgamesh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like this, they literally realize that ideologically they should be fine with it, right?
So they say, my fear of aging sits in total contrast to my liberal views on tolerance and body acceptance.
It's like, okay, I'm for tolerance and body acceptance.
For everyone else.
It's like, but why can't you be it for you?
I mean, it's a lie.
It's always been a lie.
That's true.
But there is a truth that underpins the lie, which is you actually should be accepting of the fact that you're a human being.
And what they're trying to do is sort of narrow the horizon of their existence to like, you know, the point where they're 18 years old and the most beautiful, the most desirable, the most Reflective on social media, the sort of like generation vanity.
And so when you inevitably start progressing past that, because you get older like everyone else does, you've got yourself in the mindset of like a starlet, you know, like, because I mean, like Madonna's in this mindset, right?
It's not that it's never happened.
But it's exporting this mindset to normal people because they're constantly seeing their own faces and constantly seeing their own tiny imperfections.
So they're constantly like, OK, now I have to fix that.
I have to fix that.
I'm going to get old.
I've got to stop this.
It's like, no, there is no stopping.
You are going to get old.
It's OK, because other things happen when you get old.
You advance into different stages of life that bring with them other good things.
And you forget the things of your youth that you lost because these take precedent.
I think it's marketing.
At the end of the day, it's consumerism and consumerist society.
As Callum says, the beauty industry has always been the same.
It's always been like this.
Yes, but it can reach a far younger audience with those media platforms.
I don't think it's about that.
When you rarely see your own face, especially when you're looking in the mirror, you get a disproportionate view of your own attractiveness, right?
So you, you look at the mirror in a particular angle, right?
And so you're, you're fine with it.
And so you walk away thinking you're, you know, on one level of attractiveness, but when you've got photos of yourself and you see yourself on the camera.
That aren't all from high angle shots.
Some of them are from low angle shots and all of a sudden, oh no, I'm fat.
Yeah, that's literally it.
And so you become a lot more focused on your own appearance.
And I really think that's the reason that the Gen Zers are different to the generations that have come before.
Because they are seeing themselves a lot more.
I mean, I wouldn't want to look at myself all day.
What a horrible thing to have inflicted on me.
Yeah, I know.
We have to live with it.
I know.
I don't know how you do.
I just don't see why anyone would want to look at themselves all day.
And if you did look at yourself all day, you can imagine that you'd be like, okay, I am going to be a bit more concerned about my own looks.
But anyway, so...
This is not just because we're talking as if this is sort of the thing in the abstract.
No, they have a self-consciousness about this, right?
She says TikTok's endless reminders that I'll never be this hot again.
So it's kind of a trend to be like, yeah, this is as hot as I'll ever be sort of thing.
So, well, that's not a good thing for like a 19 year old to do.
Probably for the best.
But okay, let's assume that in a way that there is a truth to it.
Okay, you're 20 years old, you're never going to be this hot in 20 years or something.
Do you really need that to be the reminder?
That's the constant refrain.
I think we should rejuvenate the love people have for cougars.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Maybe.
And then you've got all of these sort of trends in, I think it's women's TikTok mostly, that talk about this.
Because men's TikTok is them pratting around, which is actually quite fun.
I quite like some of them, to be honest.
You know, a guy's just like doing stupid things.
I like those sort of videos.
But the point is, she says, social media has made a habit of catastrophizing life after our 20s or 30s.
And so for the sort of Zoomer women, they're like, yeah, but I'm attractive now.
It's like, okay, but what are you doing with that attractiveness?
I'm making TikTok videos.
It says there, there's the expectation that you should be shaking your ass on a yacht.
Yeah.
So this is the sort of... waters in which they swim. - Right.
And so they're sat there going, right, so what happens when I'm no longer attractive enough to be picked to be, you know, the sort of The model on Instagram, where people aren't interested in looking at me.
What do I do?
Well, nothing, because I haven't cultivated a personality.
The set of skills I've cultivated is to make myself look beautiful at certain angles.
And when my face is drooping, well, what are you going to do?
So this is a terrifying thing to these people.
And so they say, you know, we've made a habit of catastrophizing life after 2030s.
You act like your life comes to a screeching halt after a certain milestone birthday, when every rational part of me knows that that's not true.
God, get off the internet!
Honestly, it's terrible.
And so, you know, it's like they're paralyzed with fear, turning 30 and becoming unattractive hags.
Might as well end at 22!
Literally, babe!
But you see my point?
The horizon of the vision of the Zoomers... Oh, babe, you don't look a day over 14, don't worry about it.
I was just almost paedophilic in the sense that I was just like, God, 30, ugh!
Well, yeah, I mean, it's bonkers, right?
But this is what Generation Z women are telling themselves, because the horizon of their vision ends at, I'm attractive in my twenties.
And once that's over, it's all over.
I've got nothing left with my life.
And it's just, it's just mad.
Well, that's why the suicide of that woman made them all think, oh, there we go.
She got to 29 and just ended it.
And I'm not saying she did.
I don't think she did.
I have no idea.
We don't know.
But a lot of people responded as if that were the case.
And that's just mad!
But this...
I want to comment.
It's not funny.
When my friends turn 30, I'm just going to comment underneath unattractive hack.
Don't do that.
Of course not.
It's mental.
What a mental thing to think!
It's just... It's wild, right?
And so, but what it speaks to...
Is a culture that only rewards a certain, very narrow band of a person's life.
Like, you know, Oh, you get to 22 and you're an attractive woman on the internet.
Boom.
You get lots of approval.
Uh, you're not going to get that when you're 30.
Uh, it's going to really drop off clips.
So, uh, that's going to be the, the, like I said, the horizon of your vision.
That's all you can see.
And that's really terrible because.
In previous eras, the culture had messaging for men and women at different stages of their life, and that's clearly just fallen away.
Even the Millennials understood that their boomer and Gen X parents had stages in life that they were going to go through.
Even Millennials had this.
But the Gen Zers are just like, well, I'm just going to be a hag at 30.
The only thing they postpone, though, is having a family if they end up having one.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, it really is that they're getting to that point, right?
I mean, that's literally why it calls.
I tell you.
Oh, boy.
I mean, it really is that they're getting to that point, right?
In just the past few days, this woman says, I've seen multiple Gen Zs, the vast majority of women, she says, on various platforms, including Reddit and Instagram, express a desire to unalive in their 30s when they reach 40 because they cannot handle the fact that they will age and become unattractive or become hags.
It's like... That just makes me laugh.
40-year-old women aren't actually hags.
They're 40.
That's it.
It's not the end of the world.
Normally, by that point, you've built a family.
There's a question, though.
If you're a hag at 30, do you get a pension?
Can you get a pensioner?
Like Andrew Tate takes over the country.
Pension age lowered to 30 for women.
It's over.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It's not, no, no.
It's not even a pension.
It's going to be like a botted likes on Instagram, right?
That'll be the pension.
Oh no.
Cause it's not about money.
It's about recognition.
Indian call centers are made just to liking Instagram posts.
Yeah.
You okay there, Stanis?
You know, um, it's not my, I'm not on peak form.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, so basically they're going to have to be bot farms for 30 year old hag Instagram users.
I saw white hair on my, on my head.
That's why I couldn't breathe.
Anyway, so this, um, some have even expressed not bothered with health, not bothering with healthy eating habits, saving money or planning on having careers.
They feel so strongly about this.
I don't think this is necessarily our fault.
Come on, you have to be on my side at that point, where it's like, I'm going to eat like shit, not save the future.
And then be like, it's not our fault that things are going this way.
Well, their future is over at 22, apparently.
Yeah, I guess so.
I guess so.
Enjoy poverty and being fat.
Yeah.
I mean, just ladies, you're going to live for decades after this.
decades when you leave the Instagram phase like just get you're gonna have to figure out what you're gonna do after you're not getting like grim old men pervy liking your Instagram photos so I can who does worse than death yeah exactly yeah exactly who do you think's doing that you know like but my only fans well eventually they're not gonna work I see a good comment here from the uh Jennifer Connelly has aged quite gracefully but it's I think that's good yeah sure
but like it's she's a hag Yeah, she's a hag because she's in her 50s or something.
You're going to come to a point in your life where actually your attractiveness isn't the main thing about you.
So you're going to have to develop personality.
I'm sorry to say.
An attractive personality.
You're going to have a pleasant to get along with.
I mean, look at this woman.
I don't want to be a bitch my whole life.
I want to be a terrible person.
I'm 29.
The fear of turning 30 is getting to me.
I have no kids.
I feel like I'm running out of time.
I still don't have my life figured out.
I'm missing something.
Right.
So this is the point where we get to where it's like, yes, that's exactly true.
And that's what women do go through when they get into their 30s because they start really desperately wanting to have children.
So you, and I hate to say this, but this is just what traditional morality and society had figured out.
You use your twenties to get the husband that you want.
So in your thirties and forties, you have a partner that you love to Raise children with you in your 50s and 60s you end up enjoying the sunset years of your life together right that was the point of a life path almost everyone of my generation and older followed.
Who's gonna who's gonna look at them if at 21 they have a wrinkle.
They're husbands!
A person who loves them, but they've farmed out their desire for recognition and approval to people on the internet, rather than the person that is stood next to them and loves them.
You know, the person they can actually spend their time with.
And so yes, they end up in this place where you go, well, I'm 30, nearly.
I have no kids.
I obviously don't have a husband.
I'm missing something.
So yeah, because at the end of the day, the hyper-reality of the internet isn't The biological reality of you as a woman and who has various imperatives within you.
She also had some heart tattoos on her body on various parts.
Okay.
I don't think that's going to mean that she can't get married.
No, no, no.
It's over.
It's over.
And so you get them saying things like, you know, so much of my generation basically views life after college as one long, pointless, depressing downward slide towards a nursing home and death.
In the minds of many young people, life may as well end at 22 because what even comes after?
What comes after 22?
after 22, 23 idiots. - 21.
23.
What scares you about 30?
Just turn 30 and it's great.
Over no light yet.
See, your life isn't over.
You will have built a life of yourself.
You would have built yourself up.
You would have increased your personal wealth.
You would have built social relationships, connections.
So you spend time with people.
You go on holidays.
You actually live as a human being after 22.
Believe it or not, it's not just taxes, wrinkles and losing your hair.
You know, and I'm not even bringing up, you know, the joy of having a family.
You know, like every day things are good for me because I get to spend time with my kids.
But anyway, they literally have no idea what they ought to be doing is the point.
They just sat there and go, but I can't post on Instagram because people won't like it because I have gray hair now or something.
Well, then what am I doing with my life?
I don't know.
What are you doing?
What do you want?
Imagine a Gen Z mother in the future watching her children grow 20 and say, I've watched them grow old.
It's such a privilege.
I'm so sorry.
Just at 22, it's like, oh, your life is over now, daughter.
And so the question is, what can be done?
Well, there are a couple of things.
Just stop looking at your face all day.
That's the first thing.
Just stop looking at your own face.
And if that means getting on social media, then do your best to get on social media.
But whatever you're using on social media, just stop looking at your own face.
You don't need to see it every day.
It's not that important, actually.
And just try and think of yourself in three dimensions.
You don't only exist in the now.
You existed in the past and you're going to exist in the future.
Maybe that matters.
Plan for it.
I just like talking to a child, though.
Yes, it is.
But I don't have a personality.
Isn't that four dimensions?
Uh, yeah, I guess.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm not a physician physicist.
I'm not a physician either.
Um, I put yourself down.
I can't, I can't operate on anything.
Um, but yeah, you are, you're going to exist now, but also tomorrow and also later on.
So have a plan for it now because the things you do now will pay off then.
And, uh, this is just, no, I'm not even joking because this is not something our Western culture does try and inculcate into people.
Like you don't get this kind of messaging anywhere.
You know, none of the media, none of the movies, none of the general pop culture.
You get the message, hang on a minute, there is actually something to come.
So if you make, if you start building the foundations now, you get the benefits of it then.
And you want those things, you know, they, you know, all these women like, oh, I'm a psychiatrist, I don't have kids.
It's like, yeah, I know you want these things.
I know you've been told right up until this point that babies ruin your life, but that's actually not true.
They really enrich your life.
And now you're like, oh my God, but I'm going to have this biological impulse that gnaws at my heart all day, every day.
And for the next like 40 years, and I'm never going to have kids.
It's like, yeah, we'll plan for it.
You need to make the plan for it now.
Don't waste your time.
And the likes on Instagram really weren't worth it, were they?
You know, what did they actually bring you?
But anyway, I guess we'll leave that there.
Laughing at some of the comments in the chat, they're just like, WITCH!
HAG!
They're so mean to themselves as well!
I know, the comments section I think are joking as well.
Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
The women themselves are so mean to themselves.
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Is it worth us saving the video comments if the audio is not working?
Yeah, I think it probably is.
Let's do that.
Because otherwise it's not going to be very useful for the people who have sent the video comments in, is it?
So we'll go to the written ones instead for the time being.
Okay.
Radio.
So Biggy Bigfoot says, do the recent polls on deportation suggest a swing in favor of Trump in the presidential election?
Seems too good to be true.
I've seen up and down on that.
Like, very recently, Trump seems to have taken a pretty large hit.
Yeah.
That seems to just be complacency.
Yeah, I... He's not done anything wrong.
Well, I mean, he's on trial constantly, but I don't think he's done anything wrong.
I mean, like, politically.
Like, he hasn't shot anyone on Fifth Street yet, like he promised.
So maybe... Depending on who he shot.
John, don't bother playing him, man.
We can't hear him.
Depending on who he shot, maybe he'd go up in the polls.
No, we can't hear it, so we can't respond to it.
Yeah, but we can't respond to it.
Alexander Drake says, it doesn't matter how much the average Joe wants mass deportations, the politicians will never go forth with it because they either support flooding the country or they don't want to hear CNN call them racist.
This is why Speaker Johnson makes sure to prioritize spending tax dollars to Ukraine and Israel rather than dealing with our border.
This is why they call for the use of the National Guard to break up pro-Palestine protests because it hurts Jews' feelings, but do nothing about the same university dismantling whiteness classes.
Just as you guys have no right-wing party in America, I support... Just like you guys, we have no right-wing party.
I support importing your zero-seat stance in the US.
The GOP needs to die real quick so a real right-wing party can stand up.
This is why I made the argument, it's like, well, there's actually a very, very easy case for, hey, you know how you guys want Jesus to be safe in America?
Turns out there's, like, Arab fellas you keep bringing in.
Have you asked them about Israel?
Did you see the woman who is currently on trial for threatening various elected officials?
She's got an Indian name.
And so it's not even just Arabs, man.
What it is, is leftists, because what the left have done... The global south.
Yeah, they've compressed them all as just the browns.
The Browns are all in support of Pakistan on the left and therefore some Indian woman is sending death threats to elected officials over Palestine.
What the hell is going on man?
And it's just this wild ideological muddle that they've allowed the left to Infect people with it.
So it's just like, it's just over.
I think the commenter is right.
I've seen a lot of commentary about this.
So I'm very annoyed because it's happened multiple times now with the Israel-Palestine conflict.
Yep.
But all of a sudden, because there's hatred against Jews in this sector or that sector.
Now it's a problem.
It's like, well, they've been doing this against the majority group in the United States for years now.
And the specific politicians who I'm angry with, the ones who were rhinos until it hurts Jews.
And then all of a sudden they're like, I'm for muscular liberalism.
Okay, right.
Theo says that the first time I played Farming Simulator, I was amazed.
These are the kind of comments I like!
I love that this is the most internet comment in the world.
Not a diss either, Theo.
I'm the same.
He says he was amazed by the machines they have nowadays for farming.
The argument that immigrants do agricultural labor is a zombie pretending to be alive whilst the limbs fall off.
Which is totally true, but there are ways of finding out how farming is done that don't involve playing a video game.
Well that's the thing, we're so disconnected from farming.
I know.
I think as most of society is.
And for no unexplained reason, we just don't live on the farms anymore.
98% of the British public are no longer farmers.
So why should you have any understanding of how things change?
No, no, no.
Like I said, I'm not being critical.
It just highlights the modern world compared to the pre-modern world.
It's just the delusion you find in city people who think farming's still done by negroes picking the cotton.
Yeah, because I don't know how, what machines they have to do farming, because I've never played Farming Simulator.
Yeah.
It's a good game.
Is it?
No.
It's a German game.
I bet it's such work.
Peter says, increasing immigration.
Well, come on.
Well, I was in my office job all day, but I just wanted to be on the farm.
So I'll play Farming Simulator to make the day more bearable.
It's literally the German lines.
What is the, have you ever played Metro Berlin?
No.
If you play on the Berlin Metro, you could ride any of the lines, taking people on the Metro stops, which sounds not too bad, but then there's one line.
What's the point?
Well, they were meant to build this one line for the, uh, I think it was the Olympics?
So there's three stops.
So stop one, stop two, stop three, and then your train goes back and forth.
You can do that.
I don't know why you'd do that.
Why?
I don't know.
It's pretty stupid to do it in a circle, but to do it in three stops.
I just tend to like video games that allow me to do things I don't do in real life.
Like conquer cities.
Don't drive trains?
No, but I travel on trains.
Close enough.
You have a bit of the driver's seat mad?
No.
Anyway, so this fella says, increasing immigration will push inflation up as you have more people demanding more from limited products.
What they were scared of is deflation, in which they are increasing the population through illegal immigration.
Look up what happened to Japan, where your property is worth less once you pay the mortgage off.
Now, deflation is really scary when you think about it.
Inflation's bad, but the idea of buying a house and then it being worth less in five years, Your car's worth less.
Everything's worth less.
It just seems mad that you'd think it'd be worth more in five years.
What do you mean?
Why would a house increase in value?
Because of inflation.
But also because of currency supply.
Land is considered... It's worth the same amount of gold.
Well no, it would be worth less gold because of wear and tear on the house.
Right, I get what you're getting at.
You would think it would be worth less because it's a product that you've bought, you've used, you've got use out of it, therefore they wear and tear on it, therefore it needs to be repaired or it's just going to be in less condition.
So you think it should be worth less.
But because the way immigration and inflation works, houses are skyrocketing.
But that doesn't make any sense.
I made the joke the other day with this taxi driver.
We're driving around, and I'm like, yeah, I mean, just think about it.
In the 15th century, a peasant had to live in a cottage, because where else are you going to live?
And now you've got to pay a million pounds to live in a cottage.
That's crazy.
Did you see there was some news that in Florida, there's been so much housing supply expansion, even with the mass immigration of the states.
The house prices in Florida are apparently now leveled out.
There was all this worry, like, oh my God, what happens now?
People live in houses.
Yeah.
But I built all these cars and people aren't just owning them, they're instead driving them.
Okay?
Alright.
CaliforniaRefugee says, cartels literally invaded and own many Californian cities and they have slave labor.
But deporting invaders is for a big meanie and far-rights who hate slavery.
Wait, what?
That's her writing.
That's totally true.
The far-right does hate slavery.
That's 100% true.
I mean, the Nazis engaged in slavery, but they're pretty much the only far-right group who sort of did.
I don't consider them far-right.
I know, I'm using the mainstream version of it.
If you take an actual definition of far-right, traditionalist...
Yeah.
Maybe the Queen of Madagascar?
You know, the evil one.
Because she's a woman.
What Queen of Madagascar?
So there was a queen who took over Madagascar and was just awful.
Just the worst monarch of all time.
Okay.
Apparently Elizabeth I was awful too.
She was an evil tyrant.
Oh.
According to foreign visitors who came here, I'm like, how has this happened?
You got lucky with the second then.
Yes, yeah.
Well, let's move on to the next section, shall we?
Let's go to Ireland.
That's it.
Okay.
Well, you've got a sore throat.
Yeah.
I'll do it.
Uh, Matt says Irish left.
Anyone can be Irish.
You just have to agree, or you're a race traitor.
But that's the thing, right?
When you have the sort of like, they're trying to turn Ireland into a propositional nation.
So if you disagree with the proposition, then you are a kind of race traitor to these people, which is why they hate the far right so much.
And it does make you a kind of race traitor to the propositional nation.
Good.
I don't know.
Maybe.
I mean, I think propositionally, I don't think there are such things.
Um, not salad says, I thought the UK government were incompetent, but what's happening in Ireland is on another level, sending riot police to force a small rural village to accept unlimited Africans.
Some of the worst political optics I've ever seen.
Well, that's what they denied.
They denied it.
No, we're not doing that.
Uh, shame social media exists, but I mean, it's just free father Ted, isn't it?
But with riot police.
Yeah.
You're a racist now, fucker.
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And says, working-class children are weak compared to adult Muslim immigrants.
The children are considered to be the oppressor for being white.
It's not a case of strong versus weak, it's about caste.
Which, that's in response to the Elon tweet.
It's really, yeah, it's about group.
That's the thing, as you were saying, you know, the Like you say, Europe is technically rich, even though lots of Europeans are actually getting quite poor.
Neon Realist says, if asked about the Irish fiery but mostly peaceful protest where a migrant shelter was burned down, just say in Ilhan Omar fashion, some people did something.
It's a good point.
There's a mostly peaceful protest where some people did something.
I don't know.
And it was just direct action as well.
So that's OK.
We've got all of the sort of thinned out language that the left have given us to explain all these things, and so we shall, I think.
Lord Nerevar says, hear me out.
Riot cops attacking the villages is kind of a good thing.
All right, make a case.
Yeah.
It shows that they're actually making a difference.
It shows that this mass migration can actually be resisted with enough willpower.
What's more, the guard of being so heavy handed with them displays what they really are, the Irish Enforcement Branch of the Globalist Replacement Cabal.
I'll end this comment here with the inference playing on how I say we should proceed.
Well, we will let the inference hang in the air.
And, you know, I think that's actually a good point.
I mean, there's always the advantage of the optics that has been pointed out.
Yeah, okay, I mean, it's not good that it's happening, but at least it shows them for what they really are.
Unbreakable Litany says, fiery but mostly peaceful protests in Ireland.
Yeah, you did fix it.
Derek says, here's the condition.
If you can't name the war or conflict they are supposedly fleeing from, then stop calling them refugees.
Yeah, but we know they're not refugees.
I mean, you know, everyone knows.
It's not new, it's not a secret.
And I'm surprised they even call them refugees now.
A lot of the time they just call them migrants.
What was it?
Irregular migrants?
Undocumented.
Yeah, undocumented.
Yeah, they're not even calling them refugees at this point.
Because of course, you know, it's just not true.
They just keep moving word to word.
That word gets poisoned by the fact that the truth is that these are just, well, hopeless piss takers.
The grifting invaders.
Right, got it.
Speaking of ignorance, though, did you see that video the other day where you were talking about Colombia?
I think it was yesterday.
Some guy went out on the camera and asked them what they're actually protesting for.
Oh, yeah.
And none of... He's speaking to women, and none of the women actually knew why they were even there.
Palestine?
Yeah, they responded with this, and he says, yeah, but like, what about Palestine?
What's happening in Palestine?
It wasn't even that.
It was just like, what's Columbia University got to do with this?
And they're like, I don't really know.
Why are you here, then?
But my professor said, very importantly, go and fight power.
Charlie says, regarding the Irish, even now there are members of various political parties jumping on the anti-migration bandwagon.
Good, I guess.
If only we could get some of our parties to jump on that bandwagon.
The reason...
The reason is because we have local as well as European elections coming up in June, so all of them are scrambling to try and save their own seats as fast as possible.
And the thing is, at least the Irish might actually vote in line with these sort of beliefs.
Because for some reason, the British public just don't.
Like, we just don't.
Or maybe we're just stupid enough to believe that the parties are going to reduce immigration or something.
I don't know.
We just don't.
And every time it's like, we're going to vote to the right.
It's a very rigged country, let's be frank.
I mean, there's no proportional representation, so it all gets this local nonsense, which never means anything.
It's someone selected by the party, filtered out by the party centre, in the same way that the Communist Party in Cuba does.
So you've got that, which means that there's no direct democracy from any of the mainstream parties, so that's stitched up.
They're minor parties, you go through all the rigmarole you have to do anyway.
Because of First Past the Post, you're screwed on that front.
But then also the entire media is completely captured.
Every single one of them.
The smallest attempt being GB and they're just getting hammered.
But the thing is this, the ultimate responsibility for the ability to capture the system has to lie with the voter themselves.
Because if they didn't put their tick in the red or blue box, then it would be someone else.
Sure.
I mean, what's our turnout like in, like, these days?
65% in general.
Yeah.
That's not... That's not terrible.
I mean, our local, I know is... The locals are about 30%.
But it's compared to what?
So, like, compared to the Turks, for example.
Turks, 80% of Turks vote in local elections.
And for us, it's like 30% or something.
Well, it's because they actually care.
Well, they actually think this matters.
Whereas for us, it's... Yeah.
But even in the general, like, we could get a different government if we wanted one.
But for some reason, it's like, well, I just don't like the Conservatives this time.
I'm going to vote Labour!
It's like, okay, moron.
You know, more of the same forever if you have to.
Just... Or you could vote for the Lib Dem candidate that we were discussing earlier, which... You know, I'm going to go out on a limb and go V Greens.
Yeah, we could go for that.
I can't make that joke.
His name is Rob Blackie.
Yep.
He's standing for Mayor of London.
So if he wants to vote, and you can vote in the London Mayoral Elections, you could vote for Liberal Democrat candidate Rob Blackie.
That's actually his name.
I'm not sure if it's a manifesto promise.
It's just his name.
They keep pushing the Irish people further and further and fiery but mostly peaceful hotels might be the least of their problems.
Might see some fiery but mostly peaceful politicians soon.
George says, kudos to the people from Newtown Mount Kennedy.
Is that all one word?
I can't be out of one word.
This is how you deal with the garbage government policy.
Even though they can send in the right police, they still have to rebuild their invasion building.
Yeah, yeah.
And direct action can always deal with that in the future.
Zoomers aren't ready to go old.
California refugee says, Zoomers are a generation that we have allowed technology and pharmaceutical companies and governments to use as lab rats for behavioral and medical experiments of sorts.
That is worthy of pity and nothing else.
Yeah, that's a great way of framing because I'm genuinely sympathetic to these people.
I know you've got no sympathy for them, but it's like, I don't think it's fair to expect them to have known better.
You know, I don't think that's fair.
And so like they're trapped in this world where they're like, Oh God, my life is over at 22.
It's like, bro, who, who has done this to you?
You know, people, it's been done to them.
And then Texas Cow points out, could this have anything to do with red pill spaces telling women their life is over and they're drying up hags at 30?
Well, that's the kind of symbiosis that these things have.
So on the other side, I do think that women have basically done this themselves.
But on the other side, you do have the red pill guys going, well, you know, you're 30.
I'm never going to breed with you.
I kind of hate that those people have now taken the word red pill.
Yeah, they're the right wing now.
Had nothing to do with weird dating obsessions.
It had to do with politics.
Yeah.
And instead you've got now... It's literally the matrix metaphor.
Who's that guy?
I can't remember his name.
So you got Andrew Tate, who did some of this, right?
But the other one that really annoys me, because it's just painful to listen to, is this guy who argues that men should be able to cheat and women shouldn't.
Isn't that, uh, what's her name?
I don't know his name.
Oh, there's a woman.
Not Phil Davis.
But she says that.
Yeah, but there's this guy who does his own podcast.
I think it might be Fresh and Fit.
Oh yeah.
Maybe that guy.
But just the more clips I see of him, it's just like, right, this is silly.
Yeah.
You're not, you're not a serious person.
Yeah.
The idea that he gets the, and him and his folk get to take the word red pill.
Hate it.
Hate it.
Not allowing it.
Despise it.
That's what's happening.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't want to say woman hater, but.
Um, but I think that Texas gals right on this one.
Um, they, they, they definitely have an influence.
And this has been something that people like Lauren Southern have been wrestling with on Twitter, where it's just like, guys, you guys actually hate women.
Why are you different from Islam?
It's like.
I undertakes a Muslim, so.
Yeah, exactly.
So, you know, are they different?
Mason says, I hate that Gen Zed is seemingly full of women blowing up their faces with fillers.
Yeah, it's mad, isn't it?
It's a genuine online pathology where it's like literally some 26 year old woman will get like mutated face, like super mutant face, bog pilling themselves.
It's like, what are you doing?
Like, what the hell are you doing, man?
I want to look 14.
Yeah, but that doesn't look 14.
That looks like you're a fallout.
What's wrong with you?
You know, this, and it, it, you know, it's not men telling below the book of fat removal.
Like men aren't the ones who are like, yeah, if you don't look like a skeleton, if I can't literally see the shape of the underside of your cheekbones that I'm not going to have sex with you said no man ever, you know, this is all reinforcement women and like beauty companies and stuff like that.
It's like nonsense.
Absolute nonsense.
And as he points out, it puts them all in the uncanny valley.
Like the woman from The Boys.
Perfectly good looking woman.
Now she looks weird and I don't like looking at her face.
So literally the uncanny valley thing.
So what have you done this to yourself for?
Small L Libertarian said, my eight-year-old told me today that you have to grow up so you can die.
Aspiration.
That was baste.
That was absolutely baste!
Like, growing old, like, I never really thought about it, but I'm quite enjoying growing old, to be honest.
So one of the charges puts, make hags old again?
Maybe!
I mean, like I said, I'm quite... These 20-year-old hags are not like the old hags.
I'm actually quite enjoying it.
Like, I don't really care about a lot of stuff anymore.
Like, it's just totally not something I'd give a damn about.
It's so great.
What?
Take the ghoul pill?
The problem is they are taking the ghoul pill.
Ladies, stop it!
It's take the lady pill rather than the ghoul pill.
That's the two options.
Become a lady or become a ghoul.
Oh man, there are so many on this as well where it's like... Can we play this?
Can we play this video quickly?
Want to?
Yes.
The audio's not mic'd.
No, no, you don't want to do that.
Look at her face, look.
I suppose it all does kind of look a bit far-fetched.
You know, it's just like, because she's obviously had work on her lips and stuff, you can see the proportion of her face.
And the lips as well.
Like there's a weird sort of pulling on the lip that doesn't seem to fit.
She may have extracted fat under her... And had like, you know... You can tell if you get a pin and just pop, pop, pop.
Yeah.
Like she's had stuff done to her face and she's probably not even 30.
It's like, but you don't look attractive.
You know, that looks like it's getting into the uncanny.
Is she going on a rant about the smooth skins?
Probably.
Yeah.
This is just being mean now.
But it's, but this is not, you know, there's something about it that as a man is triggering my sort of like, you know, lizard brain being like, no, there's something wrong with this woman.
She's ill or something.
That's what it looks like.
You know, there's something wrong with her.
Just go for a normal woman who's got a couple of creases.
Cause at least she's not, you know, she's healthy.
There's not something internally sick, you know?
Great point made in the chat.
Best anti-aging tip, become interesting.
Yeah, just embrace it.
I mean, you know, like I said, I don't care about it at all.
I'm quite enjoying it because I don't have to care about so many things, man.
Like, I look at young people's problems and I'm like, thank god that's not me!
Not Sad says The Zumas think They spent They spent 25 Reminds me of Napoleon Writing to his brother About how he's a failure For not achieving As much as Alexander the Great By the same age Yeah Julius Caesar Being 33 In front of the statue Of Alexander Being like It's so over bro It's like it's not over You too could conquer Gaul That is the male version Yeah it is God I'm 22 Yeah Not done anything with my life I still haven't invaded Persia Yeah You know I'm not even the dictator Of the country I currently live in Yeah I know Exactly What are you going to achieve
Mark says The Zumas will soon have glasses With active filters So they never have to appear Old to themselves But moreover, like with the, uh, the glasses filter, I bet they end up having it, have an avatar that gets automatically overlaid with anyone who's able to look at you.
So you look and your glasses received like a signal where everyone's pops up.
So profile picture.
Yeah.
It's a profile picture.
Right.
Um, but then it'll, you know, map onto your face.
So the other people won't even be able to see how much of a hag you are at 30.
That's where it's going to go.
Ridiculous.
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