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Dec. 6, 2023 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 6th of December, 2023.
I am joined by Stelios and Harry.
Hello there!
I think you mixed us.
No, I know what I did.
Okay, okay.
Don't correct me, alright?
Harry!
No.
Let's not with all that northern attitude, okay?
Okay, okay, okay.
We know you're a rowdy northerner and you don't like soft southerners.
Okay, okay.
And I as a continental.
Of course, it's Stelios here looking like the anesthetologist or whatever.
that we never knew we needed.
Estelios is about to sell you a dodgy insurance policy.
What do you want about it?
Yes, I have also a tie that plays music.
Getting into the festive spirit today, if you haven't noticed.
There you go.
It will stop in about an hour.
I hope you don't mind the music on the background.
But also, thank you very much to the person who sent in the custom-made Space Marines.
as you can see on camera.
We've each got our own sort of equivalent of ourselves here.
Very flattering.
I don't think I'm in quite as good shape as that.
I've got little Harry here.
I'm gonna put mine back in the box.
I keep him for protection.
But thank you for whoever did that.
Pop those down there.
It feels like Blue Peter, doesn't it?
And popping stuff under the table.
Also, thank you to whoever sent us the cookies.
I'm doing a lot of thanking today.
Put that cookie down.
Didn't want to mispronounce that sentence.
Somebody sent us an amazing selection of gingerbread biscuits with some lovely icing on them.
And I will admit, I have already overindulged.
How many was it, Harry?
Four.
Four?
Four cookies.
They're really tasty.
You've got a strong endorsement from Harry.
I've saved myself, so I haven't tried them yet.
Honestly, the gingerbread on this is some of the best I've ever had.
It's soft, it wasn't dry at all, it melted in your mouth.
Oh, it's amazing.
I've also tried four and I definitely... Did you get a taste for them after four?
Yeah, and if you don't want to eat them, I can help.
I've saved a couple for afterwards.
You're watching the podcast of the fat bastards.
I'm getting there.
Preparing for Christmas.
Anyway, I suppose we may as well actually do what we came here for.
Which is, oh yeah.
Which is talk about Right Said Fred.
Yeah, we're doing a whole hour on it.
But no, tomorrow afternoon, the lads hour, we've got Right Said Fred coming in and we're going to be talking about music.
Because they are, you know, British music icons and we have a very musical office.
Should I bring my guitar in?
Bring a little speaker in?
That sounds like a good idea.
I'll rip a solo.
You bring your guitar, I'll bring my guitar.
And have a rock-off like in Tenacious D. Yes!
You know that bit in Crossroads where Steve Vai has a guitar off the guitar jewel with the like little Mexican boy?
You can be the Mexican boy.
That's always what I've wanted to be deep down.
But anyway, we're going to be talking about the media talking about Trump being a dictator.
Harry's going to be talking about the NHS teaching people about genies.
Evil genies.
Evil genies, not good genies.
That's a very important caveat.
And Stelios is going to talk about race grifters saying that white people are demons.
Yeah, and speak in Latin only.
Really?
No.
Oh.
You genuinely fooled me.
I thought you were being serious.
Well, I suppose I may as well get on to Trump then.
So I think Trump has been polling very well recently, which is great to see.
I think of all of the presidential nominees, he's obviously the best.
You know, being quite libertarian inclined, he's not ideal for me, but I also think he's going to do a lot of good stuff.
So it's good to see him doing well.
I want him to succeed.
I want America to do well because I think they deserve it.
And this has now defined the sort of political paradigm within the media.
They've all realized, hey, he can win, actually.
And all of this smearing, saying he's an insurrectionist, all these terrible things, none of it stuck.
And I wanted to talk about all of the articles that come out with particular focus on one by a gentleman by the name of Robert Kagan.
Here he is.
He's a Washington Post profile who was a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
Editor-at-large for the Washington Post, and he's written some books, but many people will be familiar with him.
He's been a creature of the American political establishment for some time, and it's worth pointing out as well, as Glenn Greenwald did, I was unaware of this, that he is married to Victoria Newland, who is the Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs in the White House.
So he's a completely neutral observer, commenting from the sidelines.
I'm sure he's completely okay.
There's no skin in this game.
To be fair, his analysis of the lay of the land politically, I agreed with it.
It's just his understanding of Trump's motives and what he wants that was wrong.
Like he's saying that actually Trump stands a good chance and a lot of people are being delusional in saying that he won't and actually none of the stuff that people are throwing at him has stuck because his followers don't believe us.
So that's actually not a bad line.
And the article was very, very long, but I did find it an interesting read, even though I didn't necessarily agree with the sentiment.
So if you're unfortunate enough to pay for the Washington Post, go check it out.
But I'm going to be reading some extracts from it.
But it is worth mentioning as well, in 2016, he wrote this, which he's clearly not carried on with this line.
This is how fascism comes to America, and of course, we're quite a few years on from this, and America is still yet to be fascist, so that didn't really age especially well.
Get there eventually, boys!
Yeah, it's almost like they want it to happen, isn't it?
But this is the article that I wanted to talk about.
A Trump Dictatorship is Increasingly Inevitable.
We Should Stop Pretending.
This has come out with suspiciously good timing to that documentary, was it BBC2 actually?
About Caesar, yeah.
About Caesar, where they're comparing him to Donald Trump.
Yeah, the rhetoric was really anachronistic about Caesar.
They're like, he's coming to destroy the Republic, and actually Caesar was persecuted by his enemies, which forced his hand in having to defend himself.
I mean, if the current American establishment would like to compare themselves to the totally not corrupt Roman Republic, I mean, fair play, it says a lot.
Yeah, it's not the own that they think it is, really.
So I'm going to read from this.
Please humor my reading voice.
I've got a little bit of a cold.
So if it's especially nasally, my heartfelt condolences.
So it starts with, let's stop the wishful thinking and face stark reality.
There is a clear path to dictatorship in the United States, if you've been eating crayons.
And it is getting shorter every day.
In 13 weeks, Donald Trump will have locked up the Republican nomination.
Notice the sleight of hand language here.
Not locked in, locked up.
In the Real Clear Politics poll average from the period of the 9th of November to the 20th, Trump leads his nearest competitor by 47 points and leads the rest of the field combined by 27 points.
The idea that he is unelectable in general elections is nonsense.
He is tied or ahead of President Biden in all of the latest polls, stripping other Republican challengers of their own stated reason for existence.
The fact that many Americans might prefer other candidates, much ballyhooed, Which I find a funny choice of word.
By such political sages as Karl Rove, who I don't know, will soon become irrelevant when millions of Republican voters turn out to choose the person whom no one allegedly wants.
I mean, although the tone is a bit off, what is actually said here is a pretty reasonable read of the situation so far.
The other Republicans don't really have a purpose because Trump's obviously the favorite and Trump's also polling better than Biden and stands a good chance.
He is right in a certain sense with the tone that he's approached here, which is that he is cutting through the propaganda that outlets like the Washington Post want to put forward to the American public constantly, which is that Trump, well obviously he's still saying that Trump is an evil dictator.
That part's obviously not high.
I agree with that.
But he's also saying that we constantly get reports of how everybody hates Trump.
We're never going to get Trump again.
Democracy has been safeguarded against those like Trump.
Whereas he's saying, okay, let's cut the crap for a second.
He's actually probably going to do very well.
Yeah.
And I think that they've had a bit of a wake up call in the sort of inner circle because you could definitely class him as being within that.
I mean, being married to someone who is in the Biden White House.
I mean, that's difficult to argue with and it skips ahead.
And then it goes on to say Trump will thus enter the general election campaign early next year with momentum backed by growing political and financial resources and an increasingly unified party.
Can the same be said of Biden?
Is Biden's power likely to grow over the coming months?
Will this party unify around him or will alarm and doubt among Democrats already high continue to increase?
Even at this point the president is struggling with double digit Double-digit defection, sorry, among black Americans and young voters.
Jill Stein and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
have already launched, respectively, third-party and independent campaigns coming at Biden in the main from the populist left.
The decision by Senator Joe Manchin not to run for election in West Virginia but instead contemplate a third-party run for presidency is potentially devastating.
The Democratic coalition is likely to remain fractious as the Republicans unify and trump consolidates his hold which i actually think is exactly what's going to happen here so you know it's weird that this delusional article that says democracy's in danger um trump's gonna take over which i don't think he could or will even if he wanted to i was
i think that the discussion of black voters in america is interesting because i've looked into this a bit recently and it seems from what i've seen from what i've seen that polling has shown that black americans are saying larger numbers than they previously had that up to the top of the top of Up to about 20% of the eligible voters, representative of course, 20% of a representative sample of black American voters, are thinking that they might not vote for the Democrats this next election.
Which is a ridiculous number for black Americans, but Mainly because they feel that the Democrats aren't getting what they want and also a lot of the younger parts of those demographics are saying that they are identifying a little bit.
And this is the actual what they were saying about it.
They were identifying with Trump as this persecuted man where the entire establishment is against him.
They see themselves in that.
But there is also the constant difference that you must take between polls and the reality of when it comes to voting.
Because a lot of these polls might be coming out And the Democrats could pull it back before now and between now and then and also it might just be that they're saying that right now to try and get the Democrat machine to start ramping up the rhetoric more in their favor again because I think on average something like 94 to 96 percent of black America always votes Democrat habitually.
Those are all good points and it is also worth mentioning as well that obviously there has been a sort of crisis in political polling and things like that but It's quite often that it's got a leftward drift in the polls and actually the real voting intentions are more rightward and the theory is that people are more comfortable expressing a left-wing opinion when interviewed but are more likely to vote right-wing in the ballot box as a sort of general trend.
That is interesting.
Hopefully that is the effect going on.
It's kind of the opposite of what I was describing there but I understand what you were saying.
Yeah, I want to say two things here because on the one hand, it's not weird that people like that would write articles saying that, you know, unless you vote for us, the world is going to end.
But on the other hand, I think that you could say that this is one of the elements within the Democrat Party, you know, sphere, who are trying to say that Biden is too old to run again.
And they're trying to say that, you know, if he runs, he will lose and all these bad things are going to happen and the world is going to end.
And just to remind people, there was a lot of panicking in the newspapers about Trump's Um, first four years, and there were a lot of them were saying that there was going to be something like a world war or something.
So, you know, the opposite happened, the exact opposite happened.
And they were constantly saying that, uh, the Democrats were going to have a more peaceful and stable world.
And I think that the, that, uh, they have communicated an image of weakness to some people.
Okay.
So.
It seems that some Democrats understand this and they don't want Biden to run again.
And they're trying to tell themselves also that, you know, as they say, their democracy dies in darkness and that the world is going to end.
So you shouldn't run again.
That's what I think he is trying to do as well.
Because he's specifically focusing on Biden and he is saying again that he is not doing well.
This is an in-party call for the Democrats to rally themselves to a more effective campaign for 2024.
This is not him saying that he hopes that Trump wins, it's him saying we need to do better.
That's what this is.
That's why he's cutting through a lot of the hysterical propaganda, while still making sure that this is a hysterical propaganda piece.
But to round off my point, I have just remembered as well that given that democracy is a race to the bottom of who can give out the most free stuff, the current democratic system, Stelios, especially in places like America, is oftentimes a race to the bottom who can give out the most free stuff to minority demographics. is oftentimes a race to the bottom who can give
I think one of the other things I forgot to mention when considering why a lot of black Americans are saying in the polls that they are more favorable to Trump at the moment is because Trump was not a dictatorship.
And in fact, during lockdown, what did Trump do?
He gave a lot of people...
over a thousand dollars during the lockdowns and he made sure to get his name stamped on each and every single one of those checks that went out so a lot of black americans and other minority demographics at the moment might be thinking to themselves whether this comes out in the in the actual voting or not they might be thinking to themselves well trump is the guy who gave me over a thousand dollars I have to say something here because I want to add this.
I think that you're correct partly and there is a kind of trajectory in democratic societies where in some cases you have a point in the In a cycle or a trajectory, for instance, where what you're saying happens.
But there are cases where people are voting out parties who want to increase spending.
It happened, for instance, in Greece, in Argentina now.
I'm just saying.
I've got a lot to get through here.
And I'm not actually trying to focus on voting intentions or anything like that.
I just thought it was an interesting thing to bring up.
Of course.
Yeah.
And you're very much right as well.
So it carries on to say, he assumes that Trump's going to take office, and this is the juicy bit that I wanted to get to.
So now Trump's taken office, imagine, and this is what he says about it.
So what limits those presidential powers, I paraphrase that part, The most obvious answer is the institutions of justice, all of which Trump by his very election will have defied and revealed as impotent.
A court system which could not control Trump as a private individual is not going to control him better when he is President of the United States and appointing his own Attorney General and the other top officials at the Justice Department.
Think of the power of a man who gets himself elected President despite indictments, courtroom appearances and even conviction.
Would he even obey a directive of the Supreme Court while he's appointed Lots of Supreme Court Justices, so why would they go after him?
It's funny that, isn't it?
That the Supreme Court is actually one of the few institutions that hasn't targeted him because it's not explicitly controlled by the Democrats.
Or, would he instead ask how many armoured divisions the Chief Justice has?
Will future Congress stop him?
The President can accomplish a lot these days without Congressional approval, even as Barack Obama showed.
The one check Congress has on a rogue president, namely impeachment and conviction, has already proved all but impossible, even when Trump was out of office he wielded modest institutional power over his party.
So they're trying to paint the fact that they can't hold Trump accountable, as they would put it.
plain English speaking way of putting it is they can't interfere with what the president wants to do and therefore this is a threat to democracy because of course democracy is synonymous with the democratic agenda because apparently the republicans don't believe in democracy even though there is no indication of that but it carries on i've only got a little bit left um it is worth getting into trump's head a bit imagining his mood following an election victory
He will have spent the previous year and more fighting to stay out of jail, plagued by a myriad of persecutors and helpless to do what he likes to do best, exact revenge.
Think of the fury that's built up inside him, a fury that from this point of view, he has worked hard to contain.
Well, you're really selling Trump to me even more now.
I could really, um, oh, where was I?
As he once put it, I think I've been toned down.
If you want to know the truth, I could really tone it up.
I personally would like to see that.
And indeed he could and will.
We caught a glimpse of his deep thirst for vengeance in his Veterans Day promise to root out communist, Marxist, fascist and radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, lie, steal and cheat on elections and will do anything possible, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and the American dream.
That sounds great.
This is music to anyone who actually cares about freedom's ears.
Note the equation of himself with America and the American Dream.
It is he they are trying to destroy, he believes, as the president, he will return the favor.
And so he should, in my opinion.
And it goes on to say, this is the last part I'm going to read because it's a very long article, what will that look like?
Trump has already named some of the sorts he intends to go after once he is elected.
Senior officials from his first term, such as retired General John F. Kelly, General Mark Milley, former Attorney General William Barr, Others who spoke against him after the 2020 election, officials in the FBI and CIA who investigated him in the Russiagate probe, Justice Department officials who refused his demands to overturn the 2020 election, members of the Jansik Committee, Democratic opponents including Representative Adam B. Schiff, and Republicans who voted for Democratic opponents including Representative Adam B. Schiff, and Republicans who voted for or publicly supported his impeachment
So basically people who are enemies of him.
It's a disaster for them.
Yes.
Not for the...
Yeah.
I would hope with this that he would also be looking to get some leniency for some of those who were supposedly involved in January 6th, who were simply sharing memes who have recently been sent to prison over it.
Yeah, it's ridiculous and I think that... I forget the name but there is a particular person that happened to recently.
I think he could have done more.
Given the circumstances for them, at least people like Marjorie Taylor Greene have gone in and spoke to them and given them gifts and tried to help them out a bit.
But then again, you know, maybe there's some sort of grand strategy that I'm not privy to that that might interfere with.
It's always difficult to tell.
But because I've spoken to some of the Jan Six prisoners and interviewed them, I see things from their perspective more so, I think.
He basically goes on to argue that the average person isn't going to intervene in this because it doesn't affect their daily lives, which I think is a pretty accurate read on the situation.
But he's making out that by Trump basically purging institutions to make them favourable to, you know, him, it is his characterisation of it.
I would say that they were explicitly anti-right-wing more generally because they'd been infiltrated with left-wingers like they have in most Anglosphere countries.
You get it where, you know, you've got a purportedly right-wing government in the UK and even when they do something sort of softly right-wing, then the civil service rebel and just don't do it.
I mean, you can't have those people in your institutions if you want to be a functioning country.
You've got to get rid of these people.
I would say even more so than saying that this sort of thing is traitorous to the people of the country that you're supposed to be looking after, which it is.
I'd say it's completely anti-civilizational.
It's begging for the collapse of the civilization that you're supposed to be administering if you can't even do something as simple as, say, as we find in England, deport foreign criminals.
Yes, and there's certainly an appetite for it and the civil servants and the people in the regime are working behind the scenes to stop it.
And that's, you know, even with the best will in the world, if there were genuine politicians with conviction, they're not going to be able to do very much because the entire institution is working against them.
But yeah, he basically goes on to say that this is terrible, this will make Trump a dictator.
I would say that this is just the power that the UK Prime Minister has.
Because basically what he's describing here is just the freedom to appoint people and fire ministers and well the equivalent of ministers in the United States.
So what they're painting as a dictatorship is just the powers of a prime minister in the UK.
It's not scary.
This entire article is basically saying that the UK is a dictatorship which would be based if it were coming at it from my perspective but it's not.
I mean most left-wing polemics of the past Five to six years have been.
Won't somebody think of the deep state?
It's terrible.
And he's like, no one will lament all of these foreign agents.
Oh, Freudian slip there.
China Joe over here.
Yeah, no one's going to care about them because they're just abstract names in a newspaper.
They don't know them.
They don't care.
And somehow we're meant to care about this for some reason.
And it's not something that normal people should care about.
And lots of other outlets also picked up on this story.
They're all trying to push this dictator line and all of their arguments are terrible because, you know, having, clearing out the swamp, draining the swamp, that was what he promised to do in 2016.
He just was thwarted in doing so.
And, you know, he's trying to deliver on that again.
So here we have The Times, Trump's war on woke puts America on the path to dictatorship.
The fear of looming Trump dictatorship.
This is.
The Washington Post, again.
Here is The Hill.
Trump allies fire back at media warnings of second term dictatorship.
Liz Cheney hopes of democratic win with US sleepwalking into dictatorship from The Guardian.
Here's The Guardian again.
A second Trump term will be far more autocratic than the first, he's telling us.
Well, that's not what he said.
He said that he's going to clear out the people who are abusing their station in government, is what he said.
I think he has also explicitly said he'll give the death penalty to drug dealers.
Yeah, but... Are you trying to say that there are people in the institutions that are drug dealers and, you know, the FBI and CIA?
I've never heard that alleged before.
I don't know what you could be talking about.
This is preposterous.
I've never heard of that before.
And apparently Donald Trump also promoted the Washington Post column claiming he'll be a Julius Caesar-esque dictator if he's reelected.
Sorry, that could also be interpreted as a threat to him.
Well they're going to stab him.
He didn't live long enough, did he?
But the funny thing is Julius Caesar was persecuted, he was forced into taking these powers.
You know, he did a lot to try and avoid having to do what he did, and his hand was forced because it was either give in to their demands and be imprisoned or killed, or stick up for yourself.
And if you're a man, or a self-respecting human being, that's no choice at all, is it?
And here we have this, the spectator actually reporting on it reasonably.
Trump's opponents still believe he's a dictator.
That's, you know, more objective journalism here.
And it's worth mentioning as well that Biden, when he assumed office, signed more executive orders than Donald Trump did in almost two months in his first week.
That was 17 executive orders.
This is an article I did where I broke down every single one.
It's all the way back in January of 2021.
And of course, executive orders are seen as the sort of dictatorial mode of presidency.
And so it is funny that they're using this against Trump when he was actually far more lax on this than Biden was.
It's funny that, isn't it?
It's almost like it's that age-old thing of the left accuses you of what they're doing.
I mean, the iron law of leftist accusation.
I think there's a class of politicians who want to portray always threats to their interests as threats to the interests of the people.
And this is one of the ways in which they try to act as if present themselves as indispensable in a particular society.
So I think that's the pattern here.
And let's hear Trump's own words, or hear them be read out, should I say.
So Trump said, the Democrats' disinformation machine, I turned into Mike Tyson there, is hard at work trying to sell the American public that President Donald J. Trump, referring to himself in third person, is a threat to democracy.
No, the only threat to democracy is incompetence and ineptitude of crooked Joe Biden.
We are now a failing nation.
So you would think that he would be all fire and brimstone if he actually wanted to do it, because as the Wall Street Times article pointed out, his supporters are going to support him no matter what, because they don't care what the Democrats have to say.
So even if he just said, yeah, I'm going to take over and persecute these people, I mean, I feel like he can be fully masked off now.
He doesn't have to say anything.
I don't know what you guys, what your read of the situation is at the minute, but I think that he's going to be a lot more heavy handed, but it's necessary.
And you know, I'm not normally one for heavy hand government intervention, but when it's clearing out institutions, it has to be done because they are so saturated with leftists, I suppose.
That's not necessarily being heavy-handed.
If you say that there are particular institutions and departments that are not needed, and you tell people that, well, you shouldn't have this job anymore, I don't consider that to be heavy-handed.
It's more like the Afuera strategy.
I'm all for that, obviously.
But it's more by the standards that have previously been set, right?
I don't think it's heavy-handed.
If it were up to me, over half of the UK government departments would be abolished.
And that's a start.
So I'm not averse to that.
Well, as everybody knows, the last strand of hope died in me a long time ago.
So, Harry, we want you back.
We want you back.
Maybe another cookie will sort you out.
Oh, no, another cookie?
That would be far too many.
I think that it would be fantastic if he was able to clear out all of the people who jam up the bureaucracy of the US government so that he's able to actually do things that are beneficial
For the US people, but I do think that if he is genuinely trying to clear people out and disband particular departments, take people out of positions of power who misuse that power, then first things first, what he should probably try and do is, even with all the secret service around him, invest in some very, very good private security for himself.
That's very true.
It's also worth mentioning, and I skipped over it because I didn't want to do too much reading in that segment, is that the guy writing it says we should do everything in our power legal or illegal.
Did he really say that?
Explicitly yeah.
Okay all right.
To save our democracy more or less.
1964.
So I get the impression that if things are fair and Trump gets in, I'm going to be watching with popcorn.
I hope that happens because the American people do deserve a Trump presidency.
I mean that in a positive way, of course.
Just to clarify.
I don't think anyone doubted me.
But we'll have to see how things play out.
All right.
We've taken a little trip to the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Now let's turn our heads back to the slow motion tragicomedy that is the British Isles.
The land of the cooked, yeah.
Yeah, the land of the cooked, home of the incels.
That last part, I didn't know that.
It came out of nowhere.
Yeah, so this is kind of a follow-on from the two segments that Carl and Callum did yesterday, where they were talking about the new plan.
The new plan for migration to restrict migration visas for foreign families coming over here.
Where, if I get the information up properly, from the April 2024, British citizens or people already settled in the UK will need to show that they earn 38,700 pounds before their overseas partner can come here and live with them, which is about a 20 grand increase from what it was previously set at.
This is supposedly going to be part of the government's program to reduce net migration each year by about 300,000, which, as was discussed yesterday, would still put us around the half a million a year mark.
So half a million too many in my opinion.
Yes, which is still far too many.
I have no trust whatsoever that this is actually going to come across because of course the left has immediately jumped into action, let everybody know that this is the worst thing that's ever happened and there's a particular BBC article that we'll talk about in a moment that's quite amusing to me in the way that it tries to misrepresent the demographics that this will be particularly aimed at.
But so far this is an announcement.
This is an announcement in the lead up to an election and the Tories have a great track record for announcing and saying that they're going to do things and then doing them, right?
No, that's correct.
Or is it the other way around?
They never lie, do they?
Just like how David Cameron got immigration to net 10,000 in the tens of thousands of a year, and then Boris Johnson did the exact same thing with a massive majority in Parliament.
This is exactly what Rishi Sunak is going to do, even after, as Callum mentioned yesterday, he has recently initiated, I think it's the Working Indian Plan, the Young Indian Visa Plan, which means that if you are a young Indian who has a degree and has at least which means that if you are a young Indian who has a degree and has at least £2,500 saved up, you can come straight
I wonder why Rishi Sunak would be so eager for a policy that basically guarantees that hordes and hordes of Indians can flood into the country in even greater numbers than they already are.
I don't know.
I can't possibly see a connection between Rishi Sunak and India.
No one's ever heard of group preference, or in-group preference even.
I mean, that's completely foreign concepts to me.
I feel like it's opposite day to day.
Speaking of English conflicts with parts of the world, There is an Epochs that came out the other day where Beau was talking with Nick Hughes about the Anglo-Zulu War.
So this is episode 135.
Beau has an enormous backlog of Epochs at this point, discussing most of anything you could want to learn about in historical events.
So check that out.
It's on the website.
Talking about the film as well, which is great.
Yes.
Yes, it is.
I love that film and I was watching it as I was growing up.
It must make you patriotic to be British, even though you're not British.
I loved it.
And Michael Caine is Michael Caine and Anthony Hopkins are my two favorite actors.
Fantastic.
I never saw that movie as you know, an evil movie.
I don't think anybody should.
It was a lovely movie.
It was a love story.
If you could define Zulu in one word, it is lovely, isn't it?
Yes.
So this is on the website, Premium Video.
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So yesterday, as I mentioned, Carl discussed the plan.
And how the plan probably wasn't going to happen.
And then Callum discussed how the plan, if it even does happen, will not do anything because of inflation.
That £38,700 a year mark is rapidly going to be... I think he looked at the inflation calculator and found £34,000 this year is equivalent to £26,000 back in 2020.
A staggering amount of inflation.
This year is equivalent to £26,000 back in 2020.
A staggering amount of inflation.
That is ridiculous.
Because I already know this, I'm not displaying how mad I am, but these are the kind of things that make me absolutely furious.
Government's just stealing money from my pocket for my savings.
Yes, and then what money they do take from you, even though they've inflated it massively to be worthless, they will still give it to foreigners over letting you keep it yourself.
You might hate the government, but you don't hate the government enough.
This is true.
But the BBC decided to report on all of this with the angle that you would expect from the BBC, which is, won't somebody think of the foreign couples?
And yes, we have chosen a completely representative sample of the kind of demographics that this will hit, such as scientists Josie and Joan Farrah Obbiole.
So let's read some of what they say here.
Lee, 24, from Belfast, told BBC Radio 5 Live, This policy means that the girl I want to marry, the girl I love, I cannot live with her and it's destroying me.
He continued, I just hate this.
All this planning we've had and now it's all just crashing down.
Basically, if I want to be with someone I love, I can't be in this country anymore.
My mind has went kind of everywhere to some very dark places, if I'm honest.
So, if I'm understanding the intention, of this BBC article from this particular highlight that I've got here.
It's that he's very sad.
You don't want Lee 24 from Belfast to be sad.
So let's continue to destroy civilization.
I do want Barry 63 to be happy.
So there you go.
British citizen Josie lives with her Italian husband in Ancona in Italy.
The couple, both scientists, married in December 2020 and were planning on moving to the UK to settle.
But Josie said the prospect of earning £38,700 as a lab assistant at a British university is highly unlikely, with going rate salaries routinely below that level.
Great!
Stay in Italy then.
So if you're able to earn more in Italy, and also Italy as a climate, is honestly quite a lot nicer.
If I had a choice of Italy or Britain, I know which one I'm picking.
I'll be eating olives and drinking fine wine at the end of the day.
You may have familial ties in Britain, but you've got to kind of make a cost-benefit analysis.
Well, considering how cold it is out there, it's a pretty easy decision at the minute in the British winter.
But asked what her family's plan was now, the 33-year-old told Five Live, I don't know.
Not come back?
That would break my mum's heart.
I don't know.
I really don't know.
So, as you can imagine, what's going on here is the BBC has highlighted some very marginal edge cases which have particular demographics, that being mainly the people who are foreigners, who won't be able to come over here, are European.
All of these European scholars that want to come into our country.
Yes.
Doctors, engineers and scientists.
Another one that's highlighted is Cam28 told the BBC how he's looking for a new home in London where his American wife can come and join him after four years of long-distance relationships.
So if you've been paying attention and following our content for a while, you'll know that Callum has highlighted over and over again that past 2020, past 2019, when we finally got Brexit done and Boris Johnson was finally going to clear out this country of unwanted immigration, what happened was that
Non-EU migration absolutely exploded and makes up the vast majority of the migration that we receive to this country for all of the years since then, and one of the main reasons that we've got such ridiculous levels of net migration coming into the country, especially now that we've got programs like this.
Young Indian visa program that's going to be happening.
So the worry that happens with England is not necessarily that, oh no, we'll have all of these European scientists and American scientists come over here and do good work, but we won't pay them enough to be able to let them in under these new rules.
No, the worry is that every single town, every single city is being turned into a third world asshole because we are Without any qualification letting these people in.
And then if they claim asylum, if they come over here illegally, 9 out of 10 of them, as I covered on Monday, even if they get rejected, stay in the country anyway.
Absolutely ridiculous.
These policies are destroying our country.
And even though the Tories have announced this, and I don't imagine they'll actually go ahead with it, it's still the idea that we wouldn't want to save our country.
We wouldn't want our country to be completely sunk By foreigners from third world countries who don't share our culture, don't share our values, don't share our work ethic, and are a massive net drain.
on finances and on welfare and on taxes is ridiculous.
I also find the notion that all immigration is created equal strange because now I've got no problem with Europeans coming here, you know, as long as they're not a Romanian pickpocket gang, you know.
Stelios, you're all right, for example.
You get the pass.
I think you're right because there's a question of cultural continuities okay where there are substantial continuities between culture it can work but where there aren't it cannot work that is why when people talk about multiculturalism in the abstract they're always you know viewing it from the wrong perspective even then i don't trust them even then when there is cultural assimilation possible like josh said i'm fine with greeks like yourself who are able to come over here and contribute and assimilate i
I find that that's mostly fine for me.
But you still have the question of the infrastructure, how much it can actually support.
The NHS was not a system that was meant to support upwards of 80 million people, as are probably in the country right now.
Ignore those official statistics.
I think you're right.
You've got illegals all over the place.
So you still need to limit that.
No, you're completely right, and I think we agree here, because even if there are cultural continuities, I can definitely respect someone who says, for instance, I want to take care of the indigenous native population here, and that's totally fine.
I think it is right.
But the answer that we always hear, and I've seen people on Twitter, on social media, everywhere, and articles saying, oh, so you just want to destroy the healthcare service, do you?
You want to destroy the NHS?
Because these are the people staffing the NHS.
The NHS is entirely staffed by foreigners.
The NHS, the only reason that the NHS exists is because we extract the lifeblood of third world immigrants and then use it to grease the wheels of the NHS.
But that's not actually true.
You make it sound like the NHS runs on the corpses of people in poverty.
That's all the more reason to get rid of it then.
I mean, that's what they would prefer to the NHS not being there.
But if you actually look into it, yeah, this is not true.
Of every thousand NHS staff in England, 813 are British.
And when you consider the demographic explosion of the past 25 years and how much the population has grown, I imagine if most of those people weren't here, We would easily be able to handle a smaller workforce working for the NHS and be able to handle the population that we had.
Because if you look into the statistics, the actual white British population of England has been very consistent at about 42 million and in fact has dropped by about half a million between 2011 and 2021 census.
So we probably, apart from bureaucratic issues which always pop up with state State-owned businesses, of course, and state-owned services, but the NHS would work much better if we didn't have this gigantic population explosion.
Well, there's this deluded notion that the population has to just continually grow, but it seems to me that when you reach a certain population density, there's a natural effect where it levels out, doesn't it?
Or there's a gradual decline and then there's a point of equilibrium somewhere.
Well, we don't live under Malthusian circumstances anymore, but there is still the issue of diminishing returns, which is a pretty iron law as far as I can tell, that there is a problem of diminishing returns.
You can have 10 immigrants who come into the country and they're all super geniuses and really add, but the more you get of each of those people, you'll get diminishing returns, you'll get varying quality of these people.
It's just supply and demand, isn't it?
Yeah, exactly.
But even then, of this 187 that still left who are foreign, what kind of quality are we getting from them in In every thousand, that's how many foreigners would be staffing it.
Well, we get cases like this.
Which was once again brushed over a little bit yesterday, but I thought it'd be important to go into a bit more detail.
So this was an article from the Daily Mail online.
Dementia sufferer, 91, died after becoming trapped in a stairlift when foreign care staff could not understand the difference between breathing and bleeding.
That's a pretty essential thing that you would want to know if you're working in care.
Yeah, so it's a pretty sad story to be honest.
So Barbara Rimel, 91, who suffered from dementia, died after she became trapped in the mechanical stairlift.
After a fall at the care home she lived at with being unable to free her, an inquest heard.
So what happened was on the same day that she went in, she died.
So it's not just that, you know, there are people who get jobs that, you know, the local population doesn't.
It's also people who are vastly unqualified who get jobs with responsibility.
It's as Gavin McInnes says that most of the immigrants just take teenagers jobs.
This is actually completely true.
That's a lot of the time all they're qualified for.
Obviously there are cases whereby we actually get genuine scholars like Stelios here.
Sorry, calling you out all the time.
But a lot of the time it's just menial labor, like you have that case that Callum loves of the woman who says, who will serve me coffee at Pret?
It should be teenagers, yeah.
Teenagers can do it.
You're either taking jobs away from teenagers who would be able to do it and get paid a decent amount for doing it, or you are purposefully ensuring that automation doesn't happen in particular industries just so that you can justify having foreigners come and do those jobs, like farm picking jobs, where there's amazing technology that does it for you.
Well, the funny thing is that...
One of the hypothesized contributing factors to the collapse of the Roman Empire was their over-dependence on slavery.
There wasn't enough work for actual Romans.
Also, there were some genetic studies done in 2021 that showed some of their major cities were almost 50% Middle Eastern.
Well, there was a sort of myth that Rome, towards the end especially, wasn't multicultural.
But you see, that's completely mistaken.
They had all different kinds of slaves, yes.
Yeah.
And when there was a slave influx, due to the fact that they expanded their empire, there wasn't so much need for the local population to work.
And that created, to a large extent, the land reform issues.
They had civil wars there and all sorts of stuff.
So I can just finish off the details of this case.
So the senior coroner for Somerset, a woman called Samantha March, has written to the Home Office and the Helen Whatley Minister for Health and Social Care to warn of the potential for future deaths because of English standards not being addressed when these people come over here.
They have to take a particular English test and it has very Menial questions that don't have anything to do with the healthcare section.
So, for instance, it has fill-in-the-blanks sentences where I question mark a book today, and you have a series of answers that you can choose from, being like, I bought a book today, I did something with a book, I threw a book today, something like that.
Nothing to do with testing the English skills for whether you'll need to know the difference between breathing and bleeding.
Which is very important if you're working with elderly people in a nursing home or in any healthcare situation.
She said on the report, on the evening of the 8th of August 2022, two carers were on duty, neither of whom were native English-speaking nationals.
One was Romanian and the other was Indian.
At 7.27, one of the carers called 999 to request an ambulance.
It was clear on the evidence that Barbara had been left unattended on the mechanical chair for around five minutes.
This was clearly contrary to the rules and procedures of Ashley House.
So not only was the problem caused by them not being able to speak English properly, but because they were completely useless and incompetent at the duties that they were hired to do in the first place.
They left her unattended for five minutes and she got herself into the situation.
If you've ever dealt with anyone with dementia before, you do not leave them unattended, especially not around any kind of machinery, even something as simple as a chat link.
That's absolutely ridiculous.
And it goes on to say, they were unable to explain to the emergency services what happened to her and did not understand the difference between their patient being alive or alert.
Their lack of English severely hampered the call's handler's response and made a meaningful assessment of her condition virtually impossible, according to the coroner.
And following the call, Mrs. Rimmel's case was classified as serious rather than requiring an immediate response.
And when paramedics did arrive at the care home, she was already dead.
So it's a tragic and horrible situation.
It's also worth mentioning as well that if these people are working with old people with dementia, dementia eats away at your memories from the present towards the past.
When my nan had dementia, she was living in a care home in Plymouth because she needed full-time attention and there's a dockyard there that sounds off a siren to warn because it's got nuclear submarines and stuff.
So it tests the siren and she thought it was an air raid siren because she grew up in the war.
So, you know, if you're a dementia patient, you don't understand that the war's not over.
It's a really harrowing thing if you don't have that sort of understanding or contact with people.
Like, I imagine this poor 91-year-old dementia patient, they hadn't become acclimatized to mass immigration, so these people who would have seemed strange to her as well, You can't even speak English properly, so... Yeah, well it's going to put someone with dementia... You know, it's going to make them uncomfortable, I think.
Yeah, but people picked up on this story to carry it on, and I saw that, if I go up here... So, Kunle Drukpa, as you can imagine, made a meme of it.
But I think what's important to highlight here is that this is only anecdotal, and this is from an account on Twitter.
Could be lying, but I will say this kind of behavior does line up from my own anecdotal experience with care homes and with the NHS services as they're provided right now.
He decided to give experience of what he's seen.
So he says, over the past decade in a small learning disability project, I have witnessed personally physical beating, not calling an ambulance for an elderly man who has fallen down the stairs and later turns out to have broken ribs, not even documenting it.
He carries on like that.
Kunle asks, what would you say is the single worst case you saw was?
And he says, probably slapping and hitting of a non-verbal man with the capacity of an 18 month old but never in front of the higher rank people.
The culprit pulled rank as an elder but was eventually thrown under the bus due to their own internal bickering, which is another story.
They've had fistfights with another, regularly tell each other to F off back to Africa and other moments of light relief.
During COVID, they would get others who spoke better English than them to sit phone interviews, and he finishes off saying, on a final amusing note, Juju, which is voodoo dolls, have been made of managers before, all to make a show of being pious Christians despite all of this.
And do you know what was amazing?
Kun Li made a joke about this, and then somebody underneath linked this.
And this is real.
This is an actual, you can go and check the links in the description below this video on the website and find this.
There was an NHS meeting that you could take in 25th of October 2019 discussing the possibility of spirits inhabiting bodies.
It's fairly universal across cultures and religions and is one of the oldest ways of accounting for mental health difficulties.
In Islam, the belief that jinns, spirits, can cause mental health illness is widely accepted.
This course aims to explain the relationships between jinns and mental health difficulties and to explore the religious framework that exists around them.
My tax money funded this.
My tax money funded the procedures and policies that brought these people over here.
So we desperately need foreign Islamic workers to come over to the NHS and then be taught how to deal with genies Evil genies possessing people, which is what gives them dementia and other mental health issues.
So, I've got to say, if we desperately need these people to fund the NHS, I'm not getting my value for money.
Don't know about how you guys are feeling, I'm not getting my value for money.
I for one want to heed the warning, because I'm very concerned about genies in lamps.
I feel like they're out to get me.
What can I do about it, Harry?
Well, you've missed the course, but even if... Well, it's £99, which... If you don't work for the NHS...
You could still have taken this course.
It would have just cost you £99.
That's a scam in and of itself.
It's like I pay for the NHS and now I'm paying extra.
If anybody tuned into this and actually saw it, because it was on an online video call, if you had the chance to record this, please.
I just want to know.
It's six hours, but I'm really curious.
Six hours?
I'm really curious.
I know how this is going to play out.
I mean, it's obviously full of information because there's descriptions of djinn, black magic and evil eye and how people may be affected by these things.
So we're getting a full documentation of all of this.
I know how this is going to play out.
The NHS is going to have an exorcism department.
They're going to say basically we need...
They're going to put the masking out of business.
Exactly, yeah.
Because they could also say, you know, that if you see suddenly a patient start convulsing and speaking in Latin and stuff, you need to do something about it.
Let's have a session with Harry's money.
Sorry, could you imagine though, right, if you go to an NHS hospital or into some kind of emergency situation, you contact the local NHS, and you say they're having some kind of issues, they're having a mental breakdown, nervous breakdown, a dementia episode, anything like that, and they go, right, I'm going to get a priest over to you straight away and we can get that spirit exercised.
Obviously, Bazuzu from The Exorcist has possessed your dear Nan.
It's a good thing you're not saying this to Connor because he'd be like, this is great.
Yeah, you would say, are you a clown on the other side?
Have I called the wrong number?
Have I called the local clown college?
Get me an actual medical professional, please.
You wouldn't take that seriously.
But, because we're importing foreigners who have, let's be perfectly honest, a medieval at best understanding of these issues, this is what we're paying for.
We should pay for the genies to work for the NHS, because then we can wish the illnesses away.
I know what my first wish would be.
Isn't the genie the one that grants you three wishes?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
But they can be multiple wishes.
I think it's genes and genies.
The genies are the ones who grant you wishes, and the genes are the...
Get a bit of tonic with that and you'll be right as rain.
Sorry, it's a dad joke.
For instance, the monkey paw wish would be like, I wish that Boris Johnson will reduce immigration and it turns out he reduces European immigration and increases non-European immigration.
Who ever did that?
Maybe we do have jinns.
Maybe Boris Johnson was communicating or possessed by a jinn this whole time.
Why was he using monkey paws to exact his executive authority?
That's the question I want to ask.
More reliable than the civil servants.
That's true.
That's the only explanation.
They get more done.
But then there's also the other aspects of culture this always affects, which is it goes into the inner cities, into the council estates, and we have beautiful music like this now being produced in the state of London.
Oh no.
I made you listen to urban news.
I apologize for this.
I don't know what you're saying.
I don't know what you're saying.
It sounds exactly the same to all other music that I've heard like that.
David Atherton shared this out saying, you know, it's the youth celebrating gun and gang culture.
This is true.
This is, I believe, and this is kind of an aspect of sociology that I've been dipping my hand into recently, which is drill culture.
Okay, the drill gangs in London and such, and the interesting thing about this is it's postcode gangs in parts of London like Brixton.
There's a website that I've highlighted before where they actually give their locations, so their songs admit the crimes that they are committing or have already committed, brag about them, then they post their location on social media and on websites.
I don't know exactly why the police don't just go in and arrest all of these people.
They're not criminal masterminds, are they?
No, they're certainly not.
I may as well say here's my entire background.
That's basically what they're doing.
There's also on the Genius website, there's a list of drill artists and drill gangs in London that also gives the Rivalries with the other drill gangs that they have on there?
This is very public information that they post on social media themselves.
So unsurprisingly, what this has led to recently is lots of the drill music where they go, by the way, I killed this person recently in this location for this reason.
Here's the serial code of the knife that I stabbed them to death with.
By the way, my name is here and here's my address.
They're not quite so explicit but close enough.
This music has started to be used for a long time actually in courts to convict these people as evidence because it turns out if you write a song admitting to a crime just because it's a song doesn't mean it's not an admission of criminal guilt.
Has anyone looked into the song I Shot the Sheriff?
Oh, Bob Marley might be in some big trouble for that one.
God, the CIA, that's what they got him for.
So this is an article talking about how there are numerous groups starting to pop up to try and prevent this from happening because they're saying, I think it was, um, art not crime or something like that.
Let me, let me scroll down in this.
Can't it be both?
Surely that's what graffiti is.
Art, not evidence.
That's it.
There's campaign groups trying to prevent this from happening by saying, well, no other form of art is routinely used in this way, because most other forms of art aren't actual admissions of criminal guilt.
I mean, that should be simple enough.
No other demographic routinely has their creative expression conflated with their character.
Research from the University of Manchester led by Aithan Quinn found more than 72 cases involving about 250 people in the past three years in which rap music was used as evidence.
Most cases involved multiple defendants prosecuted using the joint enterprise principle studied by Owusu, BEMPA of more than 30 cases that went to the Court of Appeal last year suggested the music is often admitted as evidence, but it's not related to the offence charge.
She found that in only 8 cases were the lyrics or videos directly connected to the offence charge.
So that's still 8 cases!
That's still eight cases where, here's the people I murdered and here's the evidence for it, I'm going to write a song about this and release this publicly.
Now, this is a controversial opinion.
Isn't it up to the court to determine what evidence is and isn't evidence?
That's kind of the purpose of the court, isn't it?
Also, the people that she was researching, the prosecutors later went on to say that what they were using a lot of this for was not necessarily as admission of guilt, but to prove connection between the gangs that they were Which makes perfect sense, just like here you are on video, stood next to someone.
Exactly.
That's pretty difficult to refute.
And you may wonder to yourself, if all these people are doing is writing terrible music about how they're murdering each other, and then murdering each other all day, what do they do for work?
Where do these people live?
How do they afford to live?
Well, that's easy, they live in social housing, which is subsidized by the government.
And somebody, and I'll try and be a bit quick on this because we're running out of time for this segment, but this guy Peter Apps decided that he was going to own the Anon Chuds on Twitter who constantly bring up social housing rates in London by saying that actually, your regular reminder that 81% of new social housing lettings go to white British tenants and 90% to UK nationals.
And yes, in London, it's still overwhelmingly going to UK nationals.
Note the change there from white British to UK nationals.
That's not even slight of hand.
That's browbeating you with it.
They have a passport that says they're British, so therefore don't ask any further questions.
In this, amazingly, released a link to the dataset that he was using for all of this And one of the guys that I've referred to a lot for all of this information, who does really good work, is a guy called Juice on Twitter, who said that he didn't realize that this core dataset was publicly accessible, but it gives you the actual information for how much these people in these social housing situations are charged.
And look at this, so if you're black or black British getting socialised housing in Kensington, if you're not from Britain, you might not know, but London, Kensington is the most expensive part of London to live in.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
£2,500 a month on private.
They pay £534 a month, subsidised by the British government.
I tried to go to the Natural History Museum on my birthday and it was closed, so I blame them.
I tried to go to the Natural History Museum on my birthday and it was closed.
So I blame them just completely out of the blue.
And then I was responding to this and saying that, you know, as well as saying that, oh, well, it's all well and good saying that in total, more social housing is taken up by the white British people.
That's one thing to say.
But what happens if we take a deeper look at the data, separate it by the ethnicity, and find what greater percentage of the total of that ethnicity are in social housing.
And Juice released this information to me, and you can see that of the total populations in places like London, there are some that over-index as part of their percentage of total population in social housing.
I mean, if you were to go down to particular ethnicity, Somalia, I've pointed out many times, 73% of London Somalis are in social housing.
Stopped exporting pirates.
That's why we need Somalians in London.
Yeah.
Great.
So to tie all this off, I will say things could be better.
They could always be better, but they aren't.
Because our leaders don't want it to be better, because they would rather tax us to all hell to fund this.
This is like one of the most frustrating things to see, because I'm against... Wait, wait, wait!
Don't look!
It's one of the most frustrating things to see because not only am I completely against welfare, full stop, but it's being used actively and explicitly against the native British population.
So it's like a double whammy of trying to wind me up.
Oh well.
For the record, before we go to the segment, yes, I was reading the chat and thank you for liking my tie.
It's not Stelios' distraction time.
I was paying attention to what our lovely audience was saying.
Okay.
Right.
Speaking of demons and djinns, I want to talk about a controversial topic and it's good to run a test first.
I want to see, I'm going to show you a video.
Don't look yet.
I want to show you a video and I want to, I want you to tell me what you see because it's a regular, you know, you could consider it an eye test or an eye check or something.
I've been eating some carrots.
You may look.
Oh dear.
This is from GTA 6.
I can't wait not to play this.
Let's be fair here, right?
Okay.
I've seen a lot of people get annoyed about this, but GTA is explicitly, and I made a segment before on how GTA 6 will probably be not very good, but if GTA is supposed to be an overt caricature of American culture, and particularly the culture that pops up in American cities, especially if we're talking about Miami, which is what Vice City is supposed to be, Okay, this isn't even exaggerated.
This is just accurate.
This could just be a documentary.
All you need is some over-the-top narration, and then you're there.
If you're going to get annoyed over GTA 6, I think this is the least objectionable thing about it, other than the horrifying visual of it.
I just found the gameplay of GTA 5 to be boring, and I think that Rockstar's going down the route of spectacle over substance, so I'm just not interested from that angle.
The fact that they boasted about, look at all the women that work for us, and then they fired all of the people who did good stuff.
That's also enough.
So you are basically looking at a woman twerking on top of a car in motion?
Yes.
Yeah?
Yes.
Okay, you passed the test.
Now, we can pause the video.
Yeah.
In fact, move on.
Yeah, I don't want to see it.
Has anyone got any bleach for my eyes?
Yeah, so basically, you know, I like doing that to you, I must say.
Do you torture us?
I thought I was the evil one in the office, but you've really usurped it.
You know, I mean, I like sending random videos to my colleagues and stuff.
Okay, anyway, so there's a lot of talking about the political compass test and people Take the test.
I have never taken it, but basically what happens is that you are presented with some questions.
These questions are supposed to require answers that show up your beliefs.
And there's a kind of calculation of where you fall on that particular area of the political spectrum.
So I want to describe you.
a character and ask you to locate that character within that political compass test.
So the character I'm thinking of thinks that, number one, everything boils down to race, not the content of people's character.
Number one.
Martin Luther King.
No.
Sorry.
No.
Number two, thinking that the person I have in mind thinks that some people should not be allowed access to some goods because of their racial characteristics.
Furthermore, he or she thinks that some need preferential treatment because they are of a particular race.
Belief number three, this person believes that criticism should be silenced because it violates the humanity of members of a particular group that is To be treated as special.
And belief number four, this person thinks that people of a particular race are not in touch with humanity and need to be corrected to beat out their metaphysical essence out of them.
Now, where would you locate that person in the political compass test?
This man sounds like a race commie to me.
Okay.
Yeah, there's some sort of left wing authoritarian, I would imagine.
Right.
Okay.
So I, ladies and gentlemen, I give you Ibram X. Kendi.
Who else was it going to be?
Of course.
Oh, that's a train.
Ibram Kendi is looking a bit different these days.
I don't think white people worldwide have really reckoned with how much their own personal identity is shaped by constructions of whiteness.
And how much that construction of whiteness prevents white people from connecting to humanity.
In other words, recognizing that when you recognize That you are part and parcel of humanity.
In other words, you're not over humanity, right?
It allows you to really be able to connect to people who don't look like you, who have kinky hair, who have dark skin, and to see yourself in them.
And it's whiteness that prevents that.
Right?
And when you're not able to see yourself in other human beings, that creates all sorts of problems.
But not just societal problems, personal problems that I think hopefully this film and this work will liberate those folks from.
So I think it's liberating all the way around, right?
I think it will liberate really all of us because we've all been told a lie about ourselves and other people.
We're being too polite.
We're not talking through the applause.
That man gets paid 40 grand per speaking appearance.
He's such an articulate scholar, isn't he?
I mean, he's... He's saying those words like they've just appeared to him in his head just then.
You know, when we were, you know, ending the slave trade, that was because we saw ourselves not as part of humanity, couldn't see the humanity in anybody who didn't look like us.
Well, he's basically saying that white people don't have empathy, is the long and short of it.
Is that... Yeah, whiteness means lack of empathy.
Well, what does humanity mean in that statement that he was making?
It means giving Africans free things.
Yeah, I mean, because we don't give Ibram X. Kendi all of our money, we don't have... People do give him!
People give him loads of money!
We don't have empathy.
And never mind the fact that, you know, basically European moral standards have become the high watermark of humanity.
Ignore that.
It's not that human rights abuses are going on in Africa far, far more than they are in Europe.
But, you know, that's inconvenient, isn't it?
But sorry, do carry on.
So I want to say, because I constantly see things about Kendi and people who Uh, play the anti-racist card.
And I want to say that because I'm not principally involved, I normally don't talk about it.
But when he is saying things like, you know, all white people are bad or all whiteness worldwide, as he said, all Hutus are bad.
Well, I mean, it's, it, it, it kind of becomes a non-US specific thing.
And if you think of the craziness of leftist movements nowadays, for instance, movements like Queers for Palestine or Feminists Pro-Islam and stuff like that, it is something that becomes an issue worldwide because everyone is seeing things.
Or at least the left worldwide sees things through the lens of a particular conflict in the US with a specific history and interprets everything through that.
So I want to say that, you know, it's really interesting because if someone else said this, things like that, and was white, for instance, what would people say?
They wouldn't get a Netflix documentary, that's for sure.
They wouldn't get a Netflix documentary.
Well, actually, he might, but not a positive one.
Yeah.
They would be cancelled, and you could say that they resemble, you know, the followers of a man with a moustache.
But, Kendi says it, and suddenly it's okay.
Have you noticed how smug that lady looks at the end of him saying that, by the way?
I've just clocked that.
The video's still up and... The whole thing is smug.
They know that they've got power on their side, they know they've got big money on their side, so why not be as smug as possible about it all?
Yeah, and anyway, so the idea is that you're not over humanity and stuff like that.
It resembles dangerously this obsession with locating one group, demonizing it, and constantly saying, for instance, and leading to a culture that says that members of that group should have no right, and any right that they claim for themselves is an instance of hate against all the rest.
I think that it's absolutely ridiculous, this is dangerous rhetoric, and Franklin pissed off that he gets away with it, and he also gets a Netflix documentary, but you wouldn't expect more from Netflix documentaries nowadays.
I'm surprised Netflix even employs any white people at all the way they're going.
And basically whiteness here is used as a synonym of evil, because if you pay attention at what he's saying, he's basically saying that whiteness prevents people from putting themselves in other people's shoes, which is exactly as you said, is lack of empathy, which is a cross cultural problem throughout history.
Just saying all of that is responsible, whiteness is responsible for all of that is just nonsense.
I think it applies the least to white people because of course you get the case of people in particularly Anglosphere countries.
There have been studies done on group preferences and white people seem to score The highest on out group preference, which is an explicit preference for people outside of your racial group.
So how does that work?
Anyway, speaking of humanity and dehumanization... I would like to say I do not consider that explicit preference for outgroups to be a good thing, and I doubt you do either.
I thought that was implicit in it, yeah.
Speaking of humanity and dehumanization, you can visit our website and check the latest symposium I did with Harry, where we talk about...
About Kant's categorical imperative, and as he's talking, the idea of viewing humans as ends in themselves, doesn't seem to be someone who...
Fits Kendi's box.
And I want to say also one other thing.
You should also watch Contemplations 148, the debate we had on liberalism, because this is an issue, again, of skin suiting.
Don't focus on the rhetoric and how Kendi talks.
And he says, oh, here I'm talking about to protect your emotions.
His agenda is incredibly bad, OK?
And it shouldn't be tolerated.
His agenda shouldn't be tolerated.
And the fact that he says it in a way that may seem more palatable than other people would in the past doesn't make the content of what he says any less dangerous or ridiculous.
So, and you can definitely check this liberalism debate part two because we are talking to a large degree about skin suiting and the difference between rhetoric and action and the fact that just because someone says that I'm here to do good doesn't mean that they're good.
The sexual tension in this thumbnail is unbearable.
I look very strange in that thumbnail.
Very unflattering.
We have here a tweet by one Yiru Noya, I think.
They spent ages defending their eradicate whiteness and abolish whiteness slogans by claiming it doesn't mean white people, it just means white supremacy.
Now they're saying whiteness is something that prevents white people connecting to humanity.
Sinister evil ideology.
It is.
Very true.
It is very true.
And it does resemble, I'll say that again, because it has to be repeated, because that's the main point, that when we are talking about, you know, some of the very extreme movements who are, and their practice, what they did repeatedly was singling out a group and implying that that group needs to have no rights and that group needs to be corrected.
And any claim of that group to have rights is essentially something that is violating humanity or things like that.
So, this is sinister drivel.
The question is, why is Kendi doing that right now?
You beat me to it.
Yeah?
I wasn't playing a tiny violin, that's to signify money.
So, I did a segment about it in late September, and I want to show you something that happened in his anti-racist research center at Boston University.
Did it succumb to whiteness?
He was accused of whiteness, essentially.
Oh my god!
You keep showing up to presentations on the whiteness world.
This is from the Daily Free Press.
Amid mass layoffs, Boston University Center for Antiracist Research accused of mismanagement of funds and disorganization, among other stuff.
Wait, you mean a race grifter's mismanaging money?
That's never happened.
And look at this here.
He's got to fight whiteness somehow.
Three years later, after at least 43 million dollars in grants and gifts, and what sources say has been an underwhelming output of research, If I know the figures myself, I believe it was zero.
Zero research is what I heard.
The Center for Anti-Racist Research laid off almost all of its staff last week.
Hooray!
Anyway, so I said back in that segment that I feel a bit ambiguous about this.
You feel bad for Kendi?
No, no, no, no.
Wait.
Let me just say this.
Who's doing such good work?
I'm not feeling bad for Kendi, but I'm not feeling bad about the people who donated money either.
Oh, was it a donation thing, was it?
Yeah, in grants and gifts.
$43 million.
That could have gone to productive stuff.
That could have gone to research grants to cure cancer.
Imagine expecting research from someone who basically tells you that they already know everything.
This person already has said that any racial disparity is down to racial discrimination.
So why do you need research?
If you operate in that framework, all you're going to talk about is just economic egalitarianism and social goods egalitarianism.
He's actually telling them that there's nothing to research.
They gave him 43 million dollars.
I have nothing to research, by the way.
You'd like to send us money?
Yeah, now give me 43 mil.
So people were pissed off.
So maybe this explains the documentary, the Netflix documentary, because they were saying that the research output wasn't... He's got to get some money somehow, and Netflix are probably going to throw at him, aren't they?
Yeah, wasn't particularly good.
If you have Netflix, cancel it.
For goodness sake, don't pay Netflix.
I refuse.
So, and I want to talk to you about the accusation, because you see that this is a rhetoric that basically spills over throughout the world.
As Kendi says, it is worldwide a problem.
And we have Greta Thunberg.
Could you please click on the profile?
Oh, no.
Yeah.
It's Greta Thunberg.
Jim Avenger.
Yeah, so, and what she says basically, if you could... Move out of the way.
Cursor.
I can do that, sorry.
She says, I'm the only black member of my gym, the other three black people are cleaners, so they probably think I should be cleaning too.
I don't see why.
No one denied her a membership to the gym.
By the way, this is common in Greece.
I'm being said, I've got a fresh cotton crop that needs... Oh, no.
She says, by the way... I'm saying that's what she thinks.
This is common in Greece.
You'll hardly ever find a black person with any other job except cleaning, and most are college educated.
Not that cleaning is a bad job, as she says.
You see, this wrong thing is ridiculous.
Obviously, she's there in the gym.
She's working out.
She's flashing her body.
She's taking pictures of herself.
No one told her not to go in.
The gym's also pretty much empty by the looks of it.
When I've been to the gym, it's been a lot busier than that.
And someone in the comments down noted that there is a guy behind with jeans.
Oh my God!
That's the real story.
Yeah.
I'll interview that man and say, what were you thinking today when you went to the gym wearing jeans?
And anyway, she said all sorts of crazy stuff yesterday, and she had hundreds of followers, an increase of hundreds of followers.
And she says also, racism is alive and well in Greece.
I'm here legally and there is nothing any of you can do about it.
Oh, wow.
How racist.
Happy holiday season, y'all.
Signed, her words, Shaniqua the monkey.
Her words.
OK, so.
You see, I just don't see it.
I've lived in Greece for the overwhelming majority of my life.
I just don't see it there.
Well, yeah, it probably doesn't go on.
It's all in her head, isn't it?
It's like a persecution complex.
And also, I find it interesting that in her name there she has the Kenyan and Greek flag.
Well, anyway, no one is telling her to stay once she can basically leave.
I imagine you'll feel a lot more comfortable going to a gym in Kenya.
Well, that's the funny thing, isn't it?
Because they always say, oh, I'm here because you oppressed me.
I'm here because of this injustice.
I'm here because of this injustice.
Yeah, then leave.
OK, leave.
Yeah, if I'm oppressing you so much and everything in my own history is some kind of slight against you, why were you so desperate to come here in the first place?
If this country is so racist, why are you getting material benefits from being here that I don't have access to?
Economic mercenaries with an inferiority complex is what it is.
And you see another thing though, because this is the whole thing with the left.
It's always someone else's responsibility.
It's always the state that should be given responsibility to change things.
She could basically run a campaign, try to incentivize people to join the gym.
I'm sure the people who own the gym will absolutely love it.
Okay.
No one will tell her anything.
Yeah.
So I want to end with this one over here.
To talk about this.
Who are these people?
I've never seen them.
Celebrity News.
And it just says, it's just an article from the Celebrity News.
Every man Meghan Markle was linked to before marrying Prince Harry.
Athletes, celebs, chefs and more.
It's not Ibram X Kendi, is it?
No, it's not Ibram X Kendi.
That would have been a huge plot twist.
They say that basically she has specific group preferences when it comes to her dating life.
Many such cases.
Maybe they could be considered to be... Is it pasty ginger white guys?
Maybe, yeah.
It's pasty ginger white guys, isn't it?
Maybe.
I'm deliberately non-committal.
Fair play.
I see the point you're trying to make here, that by noticing the sort of typing, somehow suggesting that she is in some way racist.
I don't know, I'm just showing you what the US Magazine published.
It's like they say, you know, resistance in the streets, oppressed in the sheets.
And one thing to just end with this is that This kind of leftist narrative and the progressivist narrative throughout Western countries is basically the same.
And there's an issue with the gray area of, let's say, swing voters, because a lot of parties are taking their voters, a lot of voters, for granted.
And that leads into some cases where there is tyranny of the minority.
And this allows groups to basically start screaming and say all sorts of drivel in order to say that basically we need more power and we need preferential treatment.
Well, my favourite thing to point to is the research that suggests that people who are more likely to virtue signal are more likely to be psychopaths and more likely to be motivated by acquiring resources, meaning money.
So it's funny that, isn't it?
There's a pretty strong relationship between those things as well.
Almost like signalling you're a virtuous victim is a way of getting money.
These days, yes.
I hope you liked the way I started with me treating you to this lovely video.
Yeah, thanks for that.
Cheers.
We've got some video comments, I believe.
There's Ibram X Kendi again.
I have a solution for the problem of cable warriors and internet tough guys.
It's a bit sinister when a train's going past.
Reintroduce legal dueling.
This will restore personal responsibility and honour, offer a consensual means to settle disputes without legal intervention, and promote accountability whilst preserving dignity.
And if you don't like it, you can come and fight me.
I like your proposal.
I've always been a favourite of legalising duelling.
I didn't listen to a word you said because I was thrilled about crew representation.
Yes!
Part of the crew.
Finally!
Part of the ship, part of the crew.
We're known for our trains, it's the best thing we have there.
The town centre is an absolute ghost town.
Everyone in Lotus Eaters is pro-dueling, by the way, so if you disagree with that, you know how to counteract me, I suppose.
I'd like to request a video on our argument around disability rights.
My partner is disabled and through that I have interactions with disability charities that they latch on to every left-wing cause as if their challenges are somehow the same.
Thanks to you guys over the years I can challenge claims of things like systemic oppression but it's a bit more difficult to do that when the people are physically barred from engaging with society in some aspects because of an actual impairment Yeah, the equation between actual physical disabilities and, oh, I'm persecuted by the state because everyone is racist to me.
These two things are not the same.
I think a physical disability is far more debilitating than your perceived hardship.
We're being pushed back.
Hold on, comrade.
I have a visitor.
I am Sasha, former FSK operative.
What brings you to my mafia headquarters this far east?
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Will Julian find redemption, or will he succumb to the ruthless dance of power and deception?
Embark on this thrilling journey with Mafioso Samurai.
Join me in a world where danger lurks around every corner.
This is just a thing now.
To be fair, it looks cool.
I like the artwork you've got for it.
Very dystopian.
I love a good dystopia, does me.
My vision of the future, my ideal future is somewhat of a dystopia, actually.
Sorry, someone in the chat said that, uh, where, where is it?
I want to go home.
I want to go home.
Crew is an asshole.
I want to go home.
Now it might be an asshole, but you'd be amazed at how, how amazing it looks after you've lived in Swindon for long enough.
Yeah, Swindon is, you know, you've heard of Stockholm syndrome.
Swindon syndrome is way worse.
So much worse.
Hi guys, I actually have a question for once.
It's what this video is supposed to be for.
I'd like to get a present for someone who's of the generation who bought a house when they cost the same as the average wage.
He loves to tell me how difficult it was dealing with a 12% mortgage on a whopping 22 grand and that I should be grateful I'm only paying 3% from 275 and that's after a deposit I could have bought four houses with had I been around at his time.
I'm looking for a book that very clearly makes the point that house prices now are just disgusting.
Any suggestions?
The question of house prices is the fundamental thing that makes me the most mad because I would like a house because it's sort of a prerequisite for starting a family as well as having a family in the first place.
It's almost infuriating to think about just how much houses have gone up in price and I think there's lots and lots of different reasons.
It's something that would probably take a multi-part series to break down but I'm pretty sure that Dan has a brokenomics where he talks to some housing developers and he talks about the housing problem.
That would probably be the place to go rather than a book because I haven't really read many books on the housing situation.
Josh can barely read at all.
Yeah, I'm completely illiterate.
It was really difficult when I was reading and writing all those research papers at university.
I was just like, what are these funny symbols?
I'm glad you got over your disability.
Yeah.
We're all proud.
Thanks, Stelios.
Oh, wait, that's... You're welcome, Connor.
Thank you.
Anyway... What's going on?
Chaos.
Right, we've got another video comment here.
In regards to the Visiting America video, I think it's safe to say that there's a lot of Americans on both left and the right that think the tipping culture is dumb and they should just pay people a good fair wage.
That it shouldn't be a low amount plus tip.
Thanks and God bless you guys.
So yeah, this is a response to Callum and Carl's Brits going to an America video, I imagine.
And I've always been, you know, I'm Steve Buscemi at the start of... Mr. Pink.
Yeah.
I don't agree with tipping, except if I think they've done a good job.
Then I'm like, okay, I worked as a waiter once.
It does make your day better, makes your job easier.
And it's normally a small gesture.
It's not like loads.
I don't like, I don't pull out a calculator.
I'm just like, what's 12.5%?
I've got to leave precisely that.
It's like, ah, whatever I feel like.
From my experience working behind bars, too many of them adopt commie tipping strategies these days, where if you get a tip that's been given to you specifically because of the good service that you've provided, they make you put it in the jar so it can get all split up by Christmas.
And taxed.
That means that if you stop working there before Christmas, you don't get it at all.
Somebody else gets your hard-earned tip.
Oh, it's a scam.
And even then, it always ends up being less than what you originally got anyway, even when they do divvy it up.
So that's rubbish, but tips, they are nice to get.
I categorically refuse to give mine over, which is like, they specifically said for me, I'm not going to give it to you.
And what are you going to do?
Well, I'm going to give you bad shifts, is what ended up happening.
Soviet behavior.
Leave Sophie alone.
Thank you, Harry.
Although, I'm just having a laugh at the chat.
As any sensible person should, I'm just having a laugh.
And I know that I open myself up to it, because I like to pretend that I'm a comedian, so I'm making all of those jokes.
And I'm just having a laugh.
Although, guys in the chat right now, you are simping for a pretty mid-Danish person with a potato accent.
You need to go outside.
I know not looking like Mr. Potato Face is enough to be an automatic 10 these days, but go outside!
I'm not that special.
Very self-deprecating.
Yeah, a bit cruel to yourself there.
No need for that.
Yeah, telling the chat not to simp.
Yeah, simp for me instead.
I'm okay with it.
Restore order.
That's how it all started.
Hey guys, I've actually wanted to make a video game for a very long time.
Here's a video game that I made for a major project in university.
Here's screen caps from a video game I was trying to make during my PhD.
Work that I've done recently for world building on my books.
And if there are other Lotus Eaters viewers who have know-how and passion, reach out to me on my website and we can talk.
If you don't know the website, guys, tell em.
You've said it so many times, it's almost, I think, craigcooper.com, isn't it?
Yeah, something like that.
cscooper.au.
There you go.
But I think this is a good idea.
Getting audience members to collaborate with one another in their projects.
I think that's very good.
I think you should be doing that if you've got stuff you're working on.
have a shared passion.
Oh, here's John pulling it up.
Also, Craig, you seem like a very multi-talented person, so good on you.
There it is.
There he is.
That's what this whole thing, this whole Lotus Eaters operation has been a front for cscooper.au this whole time.
That's who we really work for, guys.
People have been asking, and it's all cscooper.
And it's bigcoop.
That's who we work for.
.com.au.
Thanks, John.
Really making sure to get the shill in for it.
Yeah, John's Have you paid off John?
I think he's really helped you out.
By the way, is it alright if we carry on a little bit longer to read some comments?
Okay, not too long.
I don't want to miss out the comments.
I always feel bad.
So we've got some sort of honourable mentions.
Very festive boys, but Stelios wins due to his penguin tie.
I've got to agree with you there.
Thank you.
That was Ross Diggle.
Lars Petter Simonsen.
Podcast 800 of them.
Podcast 800 of them.
That's in, of course, Zulu, isn't it?
Zulu's thousands of them.
That's my terrible impression.
I've got a sore throat, all right.
Jamin says, happy 800th.
Actually going to watch live today.
I hope you enjoyed it.
Sorry that you had to stomach a live podcast with me.
Dictator Trump.
I'm going to read a couple of these and move on to some of the other ones.
Omar Awad.
Trump had four years to turn tyrant and specifically did the opposite.
They accused him of starting World War III, ruining the economy and spreading hatred because they knew that's what they would do in the same position and they have.
As has been demonstrated by the Biden regime, they are always projecting.
I 100% agree with you.
Very astute as always, Omar.
Remember, leftists don't have values or standards or principles.
They just have things that they want to manipulate you with.
Bleach Demon says, the fear-mongering over Trump, the routine inflammatory remarks about Trump supporters and the general rage of the left when they don't reign over America in this case.
What room is there for a repeat of the fiery but mostly peaceful protests of the leftists?
I genuinely fear that American left shall be openly engaging in violence the next time they don't get their way and paint anyone as oppressive fascist who doesn't join the orgy of violence.
Wouldn't be the first time in the past five years.
I get the impression that if they do it again, people are going to be like, we're not going to put up with this again.
You're a country with the most firearms in the world per capita.
I think civil disobedience can be dealt with.
You know, you can keep your family safe if there are people trying to burn it down, is what I'm trying to say.
Anyway, one more comment.
Eric Nickerson says, America is more fascist under Biden than it ever was under Trump.
Where is the lie?
So under things could be better, Ethelstan95 says the argument the NHS will be removed is arguably a great argument in favor of the program.
Certainly for anyone who's used it anytime in the last five years, I can certainly agree with you there.
Happily, happy to see that false idol collapse and allow for people to choose between various options rather than be conscripted into the socialist hellhole that is the NHS waiting list.
Oh, you're speaking my language here.
NHS should serve the UK.
The UK does not serve the NHS.
Absolutely.
Great way of framing it.
Justin B. Police probably don't arrest the drill gangs as it would involve having to actually listen to their music.
That's their defense mechanism, like an immune system.
You know what?
I forgive them.
Omar Awad.
Christ, we're going to get 2 plus 2 equals 5 for healthcare.
Defund the NHS.
Absolutely.
Defund genies.
Omar again.
It took 40 years to reveal the systematic grooming and rape of young girls in Britain.
Imagine just what else was getting swept under the rug.
There must be countless undocumented abuses by the un-carers in the NHS.
I can't say anything for certain but it would not shock me.
Nicholas Valentine.
I didn't realize you needed to be a doctor or engineer to be a delivery driver or to serve awfuls in PrET.
Must be extremely difficult work.
Seriously though, I've yet to meet someone who is against migrants who integrate.
It always seems to be the dregs that form their own enclaves or rely too much on DEI to settle in.
Well, the fact of the matter is that it doesn't really matter where they're coming from.
If you allow people in from a particular ethnic group in far too large numbers, they will face much less pressure to actually fit in with the rest of the culture around them.
Obviously, this is made much less problematic if it's mainly coming from the EU.
Because they already have cultures that are much closer to ours, but you still want to be intelligent if you're going to allow migration into your country and make sure that you aren't creating these gigantic political blocks of people who have opposite goals or aims to you and opposite culture to you.
I'll do one more.
Baron Von Warhawk says, honestly, I'm not surprised by this spirit nonsense.
The NHS is so bloated, nonsensical and incompetent that they should turn to prayer and rituals as if they lived in Warhammer 40k.
It's good to know that if Harry ever has a stroke, thanks for that thought, in his modern nation state, the only one who can help him is a tribal witch doctor named Mumbo Jumbo to heal him with voodoo powers.
If you keep on eating four cookies a day, you're gonna... Oh, it's far more than four!
Okay, so Aaron Wells, I find it hilarious that Kendi makes the accusation that white people can't see themselves in anyone who looks different, when in pop culture you're seeing legacy characters being replaced because they're unrelatable to minorities.
We never had that problem before.
That's a good point.
Tyler T, I've been seeing a lot of tweets showing the original Florida video clips compared to the replications in the GTA video.
Seems like they were just recreating documented Florida moments.
To be fair, I want to see the sort of Florida man be a central character of something like robbing a bank with an alligator, which is a true news story by the way, it happened in Florida.
I like the idea that Tyler is going, this GTA video has been fact-checked by true Floridian patriots.
And last one, Arizona Desert Rat says, don't know about y'all, but when I go to the gym I'm focused on myself and my workouts.
I don't care about the color of the skin of the person on the machine next to me.
That's why you're not getting your games.
I care about the quantity of sweat that's emanating on the equipment I'm about to use.
That's the only thing I really care about.
That is something to pay attention to.
Make sure the people around you are wiping down their bloody equipment.
Yeah.
So the moral of today is wipe down your equipment.
When you're at the gym.
Cavalier tracers.
Cavalier tracers.
That sounds like a euphemism, doesn't it?
But anyway, on that rather low note, thank you very much for watching and make sure to tune in same time, 1pm Greenwich Mean Time tomorrow to watch whoever is on then.
Thank you and goodbye.
I think it's right-side Fred.
Oh yeah.
Them.
Bye!
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