Hello and welcome to the podcast Lotus Eaters episode 547.
I'm your host Harry, joined today by Stelios.
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And we welcome you to this very special Christmas-themed episode of the podcast of the Lotus Eaters.
That's right, we're not just going through some boring news, although there is some bad news to begin with.
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Today, we're going to be talking about how, in the Christmas spirit, we're going to be talking about how the online harm is built.
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We're going to be talking about how digital IDs were one step closer to being implemented in England.
We're also going to be talking about the alpha male primaries.
And then we're going to be talking about, very fittingly, in theme with Christmas, because remember everybody...
We've got one week to go.
You've still got time to spend time with your family.
Before Christmas, you've still got time to get gifts together.
You've still got time for plenty of preparation for Christmas.
So we're going to be talking about Christmas with the Schwabs and the kind of presents the World Economic Forum recommends that you get for your friends, family and loved ones.
And without any further ado...
I'm sure they will have great ideas to propose.
And without any further ado, let's get into the news.
I'm sorry, everyone.
Alright, so, the Online Harms Bill is something that's being proposed in the UK Parliament right now, and I'm not...
I'm a particularly big fan of the way it's looking.
It's looking like it might be the next step towards digital IDs, which is something that people have been trying...
Well, the government have been trying to implement and failing, thankfully, for a while in the UK. But this is one of those sorts of measures that's going to be taking us slightly further towards there.
And if nothing else, if it does get past it, it will fundamentally alter the very way that everybody in the UK interacts with the internet, and possibly as a result of that with a lot of the outside world as well.
It could restrict...
The kind of information that we've got available, it can restrict the information channels that we're able to use.
So we'll go through all of that, but before we do, I'm just wanting to plug a recent book club that Connor and I did that I found really interesting, number 44, talking about Robert Nozick's Anarchy, State, and Utopia.
Which is a kind of libertarian treatise on the different ideas between anarchy and state and utopia.
As you can tell from the title, he goes through why anarchist state solutions or anti-state solutions won't work, his idea of the minimal and ultra-minimal state, and then his ideas of utopia.
If I'm completely honest, I hated this book.
I thought It was an absolute slog.
I hate when people try to mathematize morality by turning it into little algebraic equations.
It was bloody hard going.
Plus it also had a lot of the libertarian issues with just a complete misunderstanding of how humans behave and human nature.
But it still led to some really interesting conversations.
I'm still happy to have read what I have of it because I didn't end up finishing the book to be perfectly honest.
You did your due diligence.
I tried.
I tried my best, but it was a miserable slog, if I'm completely honest.
He has some good points about anarchy, though, and also about taxation, but I get your point.
I appreciate the points that he was making.
If he could have just made them in a way that didn't make me want to go into hibernation...
I would have felt better about it.
But check that out if you've got a membership.
It starts at £5, just as little as £5 for premium members so you can access all of our wonderful material that we've got available on the website.
So let's get further into the news.
So one of the things that put me onto this was, one, I have seen some coverage...
From other podcasts about this, which I found very interesting, and then also I've noticed that there seems to be a bit of a push in the mainstream media to try to manufacture some consent around the Online Harms Bill, because what they are doing, the Online Harms Bill is something with a rather admirable sentiment behind it, which is to protect children online.
That's a pretty reasonable thing.
The intention behind it seems to me to be noble, but on the other hand, it is a bit suspicious because they are presenting the internet as more dangerous than it is, at least in its entirety.
In its entirety, to adults, certainly, that seems to be...
A lot of what it seems to be to me is the way that the Inflation Reduction Act in America didn't actually do anything to prevent inflation, but was instead a nice-sounding name so they could slip in loads of nefarious laws and legislation that people wouldn't have supported otherwise.
And this seems to be something very similar to it.
And like I say, as always happens, everybody's moving in lockstep with it, you get...
All of the big media companies producing things at the same time.
For instance, this is supposedly...
A lot of it comes from Channel 4, and Channel 4 is nothing if not subversive, as Rory loves to point out.
Every subversive piece of media that's come from England in the past 40 years since the network started has been incredibly subversive.
This is from Hollyoaks.
This is a recent clip from Hollyoaks.
If you've not seen this, I had to watch it, so now you do too.
to.
Let's inflict it on everyone, John.
Searching dark web for incel black pill ideology, as you do.
Me and the boys mocking dead women.
He must be on 4chan.
This is what happens.
This is what happened to me.
You took black pill.
And he assimilated into the internet.
So for those of you not watching and just listening instead, as I was describing there, it was a young man on his phone on the dark web search, which is just a toolbar that anybody can use, as you know.
He searched for black-pilled incel ideology, which suddenly brought him to a forum where he was told to take the black pill, at which point he metaphorically took the black pill and assimilated into, presumably, the dark recesses of the evil internet.
Look at how he looks at his phone.
This guy, he is very angry.
The faces they pull are pretty incredible.
He's getting high with something.
Before he gets the pill.
Yeah, but this is what they always do.
They try and say that if you go on the internet, if you're a young white man that's on the internet for any amount of time, you'll automatically become an incel, and you'll automatically become some kind of extreme right-winger that wants to Guy Fawkes Parliament or something, or go down the street and do Joe Cox terror attacks.
That's not what happens, but that's what they want to push is happening.
Whatever the government does not regulate is supposed to breed bad people.
I mean, there are, to be fair, there are some bad people, but it's not everyone who disagrees with the government and its agenda.
A lot of bad people agree with the government, in fact.
But then I also saw this come out around the same time.
Like I said, from what I've been told, because somebody tagged me in it, the most recent episode of Hollyoaks, And I, you know, that was the cringiest thing I'd ever seen.
I think I'm kind of desensitized to it, because I watched that clip a bunch in preparation to it, because I didn't want to just sit here slack-jawed.
But it was hard to watch, and I'm sorry I had to put you through all that.
But then we also had this recently, the Kate Winslet article from the BBC. Where she's talking about how parents feel powerless over children's social media use.
All of this is very true.
And what she's talking about here is, as I mentioned, very true.
And she's talking about how parents feel utterly powerless about how to help their children navigate social media.
But she says that she thinks that security checks and government regulation with social media enforcing age limits to help tackle impact on children's mental health is going to be the solution.
The solution never seems to be parents take a bit more responsibility, take a bit more charge when you're actually talking to your kids, maybe regulating their social media.
Parents have the ability to do this, but the solution is always, Daddy Government, please come in and help me, which is always very frustrating because, once again, the government does not, as you know, as we all know, the government does not just pass a bill that solves one problem.
They also sneak in 30 other agendas that they want to push at the same time.
So this is all...
Precisely.
It's the idea that responsibility is to be outsourced to the government or to others.
Parents aren't supposed to be responsible for their children and they are not responsible to educate them about a world that is unsafe.
And that is why we also have this trend that calls for safe spaces.
Yeah, I mean, this is also coming up.
Parents should prepare children for unsafe places.
Otherwise, they're helicopter parents.
That's one of the points of being a parent in the first place, as far as I know, at least that's what my parents did, is you prepare for your kids to go out into the outside world and be able to handle it to the best of their own capabilities.
You don't send them out and bubble wrap every single day.
But this is coming off the back of a New Channel 4 film called I Am Ruth, where Kate Winslet is starring as the mother of some depressed teenager who's actually played by her own daughter in the film, who's got social media use.
I've always become very sceptical of anybody saying they want to protect children from internet abuse and other such things, who also then throw their own children out into the limelight at such a young age, so I'm very sceptical right there.
But then, like I say, I do think that it's trying to address...
Some legitimate concerns of social media use at young age.
People like Jonathan Haidt have talked about how social media use is massively impacting young people's mental health, how it turns everything into kind of a commodity competition.
You can actively measure how much other people like you or find you attractive in comparison to all of your peers on social media through likes, retweets, comments, Instagram likes and followers and such.
So it really is negative for a lot of kids.
And perhaps some ability to regulate it or some better ability to regulate it from either the social media companies or the parents' positions is warranted.
But what's going to go on with this online safety bill is going to way overstep those boundaries.
But wouldn't you say that the fact that children feel dependent...
Feel that their psychology depends upon their reception by other people as inherently unhealthy.
Shouldn't I as a parent tell my children that they shouldn't care so much about what other people think, especially when these other people don't know them?
Yeah, I think the problem is a lot of kids nowadays, they're going to hear that from a parent and say, well, you can tell me not to care what other people think, but I am going to care.
Kids are going to care no matter what.
They can't really help it, especially when you're a teenager going through so many changes.
Social hierarchy in school and in other social situations is so, so, so important for a lot of kids.
I think the best way to do it, like I say, is to equip your kids with the sort of skills and self-esteem that they need to be able to get through it.
Although if your kids are really suffering from social media, going through depression, experiencing a lot of bad negative effects from it, the best solution I ever saw was when I was covering Abigail Schreier's Irreversible Damage book.
There was one kid who got really into gender ideology.
Her mum was really scared.
She was starting to talk about transitioning.
And obviously this is not a solution for everybody.
Not everybody's going to have access to this.
But the mum had a family member who owned a farm, so she just sent the kid to the farm for like six months.
So...
Rugged outdoors activity, lots of manual labour, completely disconnected from the internet, with family in a more insular community setting, really sorted the kid out.
Not everybody is going to have access to those sorts of resources to be able to do something like that, but trying to get your kid out of the environment where they feel dependent on it is probably the best way to go about it.
But also, as we know through Twitter, Yul Roth, all those sorts of people, a lot of internet sites that kids have access to Are really dangerous.
Do have a lot of content on there that are going to be damaging to the kids' psychology.
So it's kind of difficult because you want to address this situation, but the way the government is going to go about it is not going to be the right way.
Because at the end of this article, just to make sure that you know that it's there to push a piece of legislation...
It says, Winslet's comment came as the government is accused of watering down legislation aimed at regulating internet content.
In the past week, ministers have dropped plans from the online safety bill which would require technological firms to take down legal but harmful material.
And that's the big sticking point that a lot of people had with the initial push for the online safety bill.
The fact that it had a clause in it that said we want to tackle legal but harmful material.
Which is a complete oxymoron, because if you're going to tackle, in legislation, legal speech that's still harmful, you are making it illegal, as far as I'm concerned.
That's what I can tell at least.
So it takes the whole legality question out of it in the first place.
And like we've mentioned, it's deferring responsible parenting to the government.
The Conservatives released a recent tweet thread about this, because it was initially introduced in 2017 under Theresa May...
And it's been pushed back and pushed back and pushed back.
There's been a lot of pushback against it.
There's been a lot of redrafts and amendments made to the bill.
But it seems that it's going back through Parliament at the moment.
So they've tried to make another push for it and, like I say, tried to manufacture consent for it.
So they say the online safety bill has been brought back to Parliament by Michelle Donalan, or Donalan, however you pronounce her name.
Improved by our amendments, this important bill protects and strengthens free speech online while keeping children safe.
And it really doesn't strengthen free speech online.
So let's just scroll through this thread just a little bit.
This is a very vague statement.
Okay, obviously it's a twit, but I'm sure there is something behind it.
Most of the actual discussion I've read behind the scenes as well doesn't seem to be any less vague about it.
They talk about certain aspects of it that we'll get into.
So it's going to be making cyber flashing illegal.
I assume this means don't send dick pics to women who don't ask for them.
That sort of thing.
That's kind of reasonable.
That's fair.
What happens if a female sends cyber flashes?
Well, I suppose that's also technically illegal, but that'll depend on whether you report them to the police or not.
Or maybe there will be some regulatory body trying to look in at your direct messages and private messages anyway.
Later on, it also mentioned that further amendments will also make it illegal to share people's intimate images without their permission.
So that's revenge porn made illegal because I remember learning about this.
It wasn't technically...
Technically illegal, because technically you had to copyright your own body first before it could be considered sharing content that other people aren't allowed to.
And the actual process of copywriting your body is pretty awful and horrifying.
You have to take naked photographs of yourself and send them off to the copyright body.
Here is where consent is a bit tricky.
Yeah.
And I don't know what is to be done about it.
Yeah, but they're also...
They say they're putting duties on tech companies to uphold free speech.
As far as I can tell from what they've been speaking about recently, this literally just means that internet companies that will suspend you or take down certain of your posts need to have some kind of appeals system.
Once again, when it's backed by a regulatory body in the government...
I don't know how that's going to work.
Like I say, they centre all of this around protecting children.
They say too many young people are exposed to content promoting or encouraging self-harm.
That's true, especially on websites like Tumblr.
The online safety bill makes this a crime.
Okay.
What about the fact that a lot of the people promoting the self-harm are children themselves?
How's that going to work?
I guess we'll find out.
And they also end it off just by saying that racism has no place in society offline or online.
And this is where it really starts to come into the censorious aspects of it.
The online safety bill puts new duties on tech companies that uphold and enforce their own terms and service and safety policies to keep users safe.
So let's see what that actually looks like in the original white paper they put out.
Not this link, the one after.
We don't need to look at this link now, John, thank you.
This is one that I found that I was made aware of through all the streams.
This is the online harms white paper easy read version.
So as you can see, for all of the dribbling baboons that might be reading this, they've got little friendly images down the side that are all a little bit reflective of the attitudes that they want England to have.
Oh, sorry.
No, I'm just looking at the first sentence, online harms.
This is behavior online which may hurt a person physically or emotionally.
So, for instance, if I upload a documentary that is a documentary about historical atrocities, you could say that it can hurt a person emotionally.
Is that online harm?
Technically, yes.
But this is before they made certain amendments to it.
Like I said, this was the original Easy Read white paper.
So there are things in here that have been changed.
For instance, this white paper does talk about the legal but harmful aspect, which has been taken out.
But then, like I say, it's got such simplistic diagrams.
I feel like this is written for children.
All of the images down the side are of incredibly diverse...
Groups of people.
Anytime they're talking about anything negative happening, like hate being spread online, they have a little diagram of a white person doing something nasty to a black person.
All that sort of stuff, it's there so that even if you're not looking at the images when you're reading through this, it's seeding these ideas in your brain.
We also have no mention throughout this of intention.
Or accuracy, whether it's accurate that this was intended to cause harm or not, so nice and nebulous.
They say too much illegal and harmful info online needs a new regulatory framework, and it even says that the people of the UK want this, which, you know, if you've got Hollyoaks and Kate Winslet drumming up support for it through television shows, because people don't actually make up their own minds about things, then yeah, you're going to manufacture enough consent for people to support it.
And let's see.
So they talk about democratic values and how we need to...
The whole point of this online harm bill is that we need to support our own democratic values, which are described as our ways of thinking, such as everyone being free, everyone being treated equally and fairly, and freedom of speech.
But they also include...
Supporting foreign integration into the UK. Because if you just go to the bottom of page 7 for me, this next page coming up.
Yeah, here we go.
Scroll up.
This white paper sets out a plan of action to deal with information or activity that harms people, especially children.
Also sets out a plan of action to deal with information or activity that puts our way of life in the UK at risk.
And this can include...
Number three there, being a threat to integration in the UK. So if you're annoyed about foreign immigration, if you want the borders to close up a lot more, if you want the boats to stop coming over the channel, and you post about that online, you might get targeted by the legislation that this bill is putting in place.
Precisely, and this is one of the problems with increased regulation and centralization of this network that is called the internet, that it is easy, once we give to the government the keys to the internet, it is easy to portray everyone who is critical of the government as an enemy of the people.
And it is easy to present them as harming everyone.
Of course, because like you say, it can be put in paper in one way.
How it's applied in practice is going to be a completely different way, especially when what they're suggesting is that we need a regulatory body.
In this white paper, they say we don't know if we need a new one or if we can refer to an old one.
And from what I've been seeing recently, it seems that they're going to be deferring this regulatory duty to Ofcom, who regulate the terrestrial television and radio in the UK. I have worked for...
For a local radio station in the past that was regulated by Ofcom.
It is an absolute nightmare.
They restrict all sorts of things for all sorts of arbitrary reasons.
There is mountains of red tape that you need to get through.
They have very strange rules, like you're allowed to swear, but only at certain times of the day, in certain contexts, and then it's very nebulous as to whether you're ever actually going to fit that, so everybody just refrains from swearing altogether.
And like all other big government bodies, it is full of woke leftists.
And you're describing the situation right now.
In the future, it could get even more restrictive.
Oh, it will get worse, because we've got to remember, they're trying to implement this under a conservative government.
If anybody tries to convince me that the Conservatives are going to win the next election, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Because the Conservatives have been useless for 12 years.
They broke every promise they ever made.
Boris Johnson was the last hope, and then he turned around and screwed everybody over who voted for him.
The red wall is coming back.
We made terrible losses during the most recent by-election.
So...
Labour's going to come in.
They're going to have this legislation ready and waiting for them, if it gets passed, to expand it even further.
Suddenly it won't be threat to integration is one of the things that's anti-UK. All of a sudden being anti-UK is celebrating traditions and cultures local to parts of Britain.
It's going to end up expanding further and further.
It's going to be a terrible idea.
And like I say, so it says all of the onus will be on the companies to do what the regulator says.
But, like I say, the only true way to enforce, especially if it's going to be for the purpose of age restriction, so that you can prevent kids from seeing harmful material online, they're going to ask all of these social media companies to implement age restrictions, which will be down to the regulator.
The only way to do that across all of the different companies that are going to have to is they're going to say, well...
You're going to need a digital ID if you want to use the internet to prove that you are the age that you say that you are.
This is just a way of slipping the digital IDs in through the back door because that's the only way to implement it fully.
What they'll probably end up doing is saying something like, if you're in the UK and you want to get internet access and you need to speak to an internet provider so that you can buy your Wi-Fi or whatever, you're going to need to present them with your new digital ID, prove you are the age that you are, and then, with an introduction of a digital ID, it will not just stop at proving that you're old enough to use certain social media websites.
And plus there's the fact, if we go to the next link as well, But it doesn't just end at social media websites.
It also talks about how online services will be designated as a category 1, 2A, or 2B services.
Their category will be dependent on the number of users and the functionalities of that service.
However, the thresholds for each category have not yet been determined and will be set out in secondary legislation.
So this is recent.
This is from the end of last month, where the LGA, the local government associations, which is just 331 of the councils of England, talking about what they would like to see as part of this.
Crucially, only services that are user-to-user services and internet services which allow users to generate, upload, or share content and meet category 1 thresholds will be subject to additional duties.
And think about it, because that will necessarily include people like us as well.
All of a sudden, we're under the remit of the Ofcom regulators.
I know we obviously have to censor some of the things that we talk about for the sake of YouTube's terms of service, but we also have our premium content where we are allowed to be a little bit more loose and a little bit more...
Direct with the sorts of topics that we discuss, all of a sudden that doesn't necessarily count.
And what we instead have to do is submit to the whims of wokists in Ofcom.
Yes, because everything that doesn't reproduce woke ideology is harming.
Exactly.
As if what Biden's agenda at the moment with transitioning kids isn't harming.
Yeah, we talk about that sort of stuff, and then all of a sudden Ofcom says that we're not allowed to talk about stuff.
We appeal and say this is a restriction of our freedom of speech, and then all of a sudden we've got a Labour government in power saying, well, actually, the speech that you're talking about is harmful to certain communities, so it doesn't count as free speech.
What does harm even mean?
Well, that's the thing, isn't it?
The definition of harm is incredibly nebulous, and they even include a little section talking about it here, saying an example of what harm means, an amendment that would require the Secretary of State's designation of priority content that is harmful to adults to include...
Public health-related misinformation, so if you want to complain about lockdowns and such, can't do that anymore, even more so than it was already under Twitter.
We wouldn't have even been able to do it on our website, for instance.
Or disinformation and misinformation, or disinformation spread by a foreign state.
We know exactly the sorts of things they're talking about when they talk about misinformation and disinformation.
They're talking about the sorts of websites and ideologies and internet cultures that people can get into, like the ones that they presented at the beginning of this.
On Hollyoaks, where it's black pill incel ideology, which according to these morons who don't really know what that is or have vested interests in making it anything that opposes them, it will just turn into all of a sudden we're a black pill incel ideology.
So let me understand.
They define harm in terms of hurtful action and they define hurtful action in terms of ill intentions and ill intention has to do with the spreading of misinformation, the deliberate spreading of misinformation.
So how do they know if, for instance, let's say I'm wrong about something and I speak my mind.
In good faith.
In good faith.
How do they know that I'm doing so with bad intentions?
Well, it doesn't matter, because they never mentioned anything to do with intentionality as part of this legislation.
So you just go out there, you make a good faith, but possibly misinformed, or possibly you were miscalculated something when you were coming up with your conclusions on a particular subject.
All of a sudden, you've either got a fine against you...
Or you're just blocked from accessing that website that you shared it on altogether.
So this is a massive restriction of free speech.
Because Ofcom is not a neutral organisation.
Just because they're a government regulatory body, there is no such thing as a neutral organisation.
Ofcom is filled with human beings.
Human beings have agendas.
Human beings, these people with agendas, they will hire other people that reflect their agendas.
So you get the woke people at the top, and then they just hire woke people.
That's what happens, and then all of a sudden they're in charge of what even we're allowed to talk about.
So, it's not looking great.
I do not like this legislation.
And, like I say, it is back in Parliament recently.
The Conservatives were talking about it.
There was this Guardian article talking about it.
And the return of the bill will not see it progress rapidly through Parliament in the next link, if you just want to show this, John.
They say it won't progress rapidly through Parliament, Digital Minister Paul Scully has said, as it will instead be sent back to committee stage for deeper scrutiny.
And like I say, it's originally proposed by Theresa May.
The bill has survived four prime ministers and seven departmental secretaries to reach this point.
That should show you just how desperate they are to get this through.
It doesn't matter that the government has changed multiple times, four different prime ministers, seven different secretaries, I've been presiding over this bill.
They all want it.
It doesn't matter what other agendas they might want to push.
They all want this.
And I don't think it will be good for anybody.
And like I say, the next government as well, if they do manage to get this passed, will be Labour.
So it will be even more strictly enforced.
The only thing that could give me hope about this is that if it is not passed by April 2023, it will be dropped entirely and the process will need to be started from scratch in a new parliament.
So I can only hope that they can't get it passed till then.
Until then, the best thing that I can recommend that people might be able to do about this, seeing as the local councils are supporting this, maybe get in touch with your local MP, maybe get in touch with your local council, and let them know you don't want this legislation.
Just let them know you respect the whole protecting children thing.
I think we can all get behind that, but there is a lot of very dangerous stuff in this bill that will restrict free speech, whether or not they want to advertise it as strengthening free speech.
If I may have a comment, I think that it is important to protect children.
Of course.
And we should be very responsible about it.
We often talk about it on this very show.
Precisely.
And it's important to be very careful about what is to be done here.
But regardless of...
How we are going to go forward with this.
I think that this is a manifestation of the liberty versus security debate.
And I think that in general, the pendulum has swung way too much towards the side of security.
Well, yes.
We all want security for our lives, but freedom is something worth protecting.
Yeah, and freedom comes with responsibility.
Exactly.
And this is why I think that parents should try to foster to kids the idea that they are responsible.
Yeah, I think liberty in the classical sense was always talking about how true freedom is being able to restrict and regulate your own behaviour so that you engage in habits of virtue, so that you're a boon to your community rather than just being some selfish, atomised individual who's nothing but a drain from everybody.
Offloading all responsibility to the state is just something that is going to further encourage people to atomize themselves.
If we get state legislation going in and doing this, we are telling parents you do not need to respect, you do not need to raise your children in a responsible way.
You don't need to instill these values yourself because the government will just do it for you.
That's not what's going to help anybody.
But anyway, that was the big bit of nasty news at the beginning of this podcast.
Let's move on to something a little bit more light-hearted, why don't we?
Okay.
Hello.
Lately we are talking about a crisis of masculinity.
We are talking about children needing protection and guidance, but it's also men who need guidance.
Men have become sort of a persecuted group, would you say?
Yes.
Men who behave in traditionally masculine ways, absolutely.
If men feminize themselves, then congratulations, you're an ally, you're a good person, you're one of the good men.
But if you're not, then, sorry, you're toxic.
Yeah.
So if you want a really thoughtful article about this entitled How Chivalry Came to be Seen as Toxic Masculinity, check the article by Simon Webb, which is available for members on our website.
Okay.
So lately, many men try to find guidance and they try to find what is called a leader of the alpha males.
Yes?
The most alpha behavior is to submit to other people.
Yes, that's what you do.
Exactly.
And many people think that Andrew Tate is the alpha male par excellence.
Let us look at the clip.
That only leaves one religion left in which you can install, degeneracy will disappear, crime will disappear, men and women will stay families again, people will have children, and all the world's problems will be fixed.
Absolutely, I call for the Islamification of the entire Western world.
Okay, so I think...
I disagree.
I disagree with Andrew right there.
I don't think that Islam stops degenerate behavior.
I think it can encourage just different forms of degenerate behavior than we experience in the West right now.
But I think that men should find a different role model.
And if there were to be a primary Election for leader of the alpha males, we should perhaps think of another candidate.
Christian Western men should find another candidate, not one who represents the goal of the Islamification of Europe.
Yeah, I disagree.
I do just want to say I'm not...
Too familiar with Andrew Tate, or this other guy that you're about to talk about, to be perfectly honest, because I stay away from that whole alpha community, because most of them, I can see that there's probably a few out there who have good intentions, who do want to sort of support men.
Most of them seem to be a grift.
What was it?
Was it Jack Murphy last year, the liminal guy who turned out to have been a webcam model with his wife or something, was happy to let his wife cook him a few years back, who then, when people brought it up, got really butthurt about it, and he was selling courses to how to become a real man.
I see the whole thing as a bit of a grift when you start to sell programs.
Here's how you behave like a real guy.
That doesn't sound legit to me.
Yes, there are obviously many dodgy person people there.
And Andrew Tate does sell courses like that, and also, you know, he's talking about degenerate behaviour.
The man ran a webcam company that, you know, had webcam models on it, women behaving in degenerate ways to try and earn money that he made millions of dollars from.
So I don't think this guy is a model for masculine behaviour.
Or, you know, wholesome behavior.
He does occasionally say the odd-based thing, like he said something about Meghan Markle recently, which seemed like just on the money, but it was nothing original that people hadn't already said, you know?
So I think you won't have any trouble being convinced that my candidate is better.
Well, show me the candidate first, then.
This Nick Adams, I mean, he's got alpha male in the name on Twitter, so, I mean, he's coming out strong.
Okay, so let us enjoy.
G'day alphas, beaters, and feminists.
Nick Adams here, one of your favorite people on the planet, and certainly your most favorite alpha male.
Just filming this short video, To let you know that I am never, ever going to apologise for being a wildly successful alpha male.
It's never going to happen.
I am sick and tired of you lefties asking me, begging me, imploring me to apologise for being an alpha male.
If you don't like it, you know where you can stick it.
If you don't like it, you can go and jump in the lake, pound sand, or pull whatever muscle it is that you typically pull.
Being a straight white alpha male is a tough job in today's society, but someone's got to do it.
And you should be really happy that Nick Adams, alpha male, is on the task.
From me to you, goodbye to Good luck, and God bless America.
Okay, so how does my candidate strike you?
Well, he has the cool and casual Australian attitude, which I appreciate.
May I ask, does he always refer to himself in the third person and qualify it with alpha male?
Is that something he does every single time?
I don't think every single time, but most of the time.
Most of the time, alright.
He's a man of few words per tweet.
Per tweet, okay.
And he has, as you said, as you noted before, he has alpha male in parentheses in his account.
Head to Hooters instead.
So this is the anti-Thomas with Hooters.
They ask, outside of going on Twitter and talking about what an alpha male he is, what is it this gentleman does?
That's a good question.
That's a good question.
But he is a conservative author, and he has written six books.
Okay.
And he's fairly sophisticated.
You will see, I will show you many of his tweets on a number of topics, so you will get an idea of what my favorite candidate for leader of the alpha males He's preoccupied with.
He's got a few books here.
Retaking America, Green Card Warrior, Exceptional America, Trump and Churchill.
I would expect him to speak more about Australian politics, but fair play.
Apparently Donald Trump has made favourable comments and tweets about him.
He immigrated to the US. He is an ultra-patriotic MAGA-Republican.
Alright.
Okay, fair play.
Okay, so, but doesn't he seem positive?
He does seem positive.
He does have a sunny disposition, and this is why I like him very much.
He seems very friendly.
I'd like to go to see a film in his home cinema.
That looks fancy.
Yes.
And he also, his posture needs work.
I know, he's got that casual lean, you know?
Yes, but I mean, he does need work because he does seem conscious of his role, and he said he's up for the task of being the leader of the Alphas.
Okay, so Andrew Tate is probably going to challenge this man to a kickboxing competition.
Maybe, but the point is that I think Nick Adams is going to kill him with kindness.
That'd be nice.
That'd be nice if they get in the ring and Andrew just can't bring himself to throw the first punch.
Yes, but he has won the love of all sensible people.
He gives advice about where to dine.
So let us go and see the places he thinks that we shouldn't eat at and the places he thinks that we should.
G'day guys, Nick Adams here.
Quick little video about Pizza Hut.
I want every single one of you to boycott Pizza Hut.
Every single one of you.
Because Pizza Hut has gone woke, therefore they should go broke.
What they're doing with this children's book club in trying to entice kids to be able to earn a free pizza By listing a book about drag queens that is just beyond the pale.
Absolutely disgusting.
Pizza Hut has gone woke.
Therefore, no one should be eating at Pizza Hut.
You should be looking at Domino's, Papa John's, wood-fired pizza places, any alternative, but not Pizza Hut.
Pizza Hut does not deserve our business.
It does not deserve our money.
It is Okay, that's all fair.
It's good that he's bringing awareness and attention to it, you know?
I don't know if Hooters is the place that I would immediately jump to in suggesting an alternative, but I have been told that a lot of Americans really love Hooters.
It's not really something that we've got much of a culture of here in the UK, so it can appear a bit weird over here.
Well, I mean, cultures differ.
Yeah, of course.
Okay, so let us go and see his take on various cultural issues.
And this is a slippery slope I've not seen before.
Yeah, so if we move to this, we see he says, it starts with Fortnite and boneless wings.
It ends with gender pronouns and communism.
I can maybe see the Fortnite connection because Fortnite is full of children.
Children are morons and children peer pressure each other constantly into doing the stupidest things possible.
So yes, rapid onset gender dysphoria might happen in Fortnite.
I hope that something like Fortnite is mainly just children telling each other the various things they plan on doing with each other's mothers.
But I don't see where Boneless Wings comes into it.
I don't know, but since he's my candidate, I feel I have to support him.
Okay, alright.
So you've gone straight for the bone chicken, that's all you ever...
Strictly boneless.
Okay.
Yeah, but he is also farsighted.
Alright, farsighted?
Yes, because he says that, I mean, it starts from little things, and it could end in the whole society being run by people who don't want to run it.
That's true.
Yes.
Okay.
Next tweet.
He says, I am pro-trans.
Trump 2024.
Reading the Bible.
Anti-Biden.
Nationalism.
Securing the border with a wall.
Very catchy.
Very snappy.
I like it.
Yes, I'm...
Next click.
Next.
America is being destroyed by a generation raised on the Communist Manifesto, Taylor Swift and Fortnite.
If we want America to survive, the next generation needs to be raised on the Bible, Kid Rock and Hooters.
See, I can agree with that first sentiment and the bit about the Bible.
Kid Rock and Hooters.
I like Kid Rock, I must say.
Especially I was born free.
I don't know many Kid Rock songs.
I just remember that one that's a rip-off of Sweet Home Alabama.
All Summer Long.
Yeah, All Summer Long.
That's the one.
Yes, but he's very conscious of it.
He pays homage to Leonard Skinner.
Yeah, he pays homage to the lyrics.
And Werewolves of London.
Werewolves of London, yeah.
I mean, it's more of a Werewolves of London, but it has that Sweet Home Alabama vibe to it as well.
Yes.
So let's go to the next.
I'm hearing Sam Brinton's new pronouns are unemployed.
Okay.
Alright.
Which one was...
Oh, I keep forgetting which one Sam Brinton is.
It's that one.
I know the one.
I've seen his mugshot now.
I think it's the one who lost his job.
Yes, the nuclear secretary or something who was non-binary, who's been caught stealing women's luggage.
So, next click.
He shows how to handle criticism.
So, Jack Cocharella, who is a Gen Z activist and a Florida Democrat, started writing about Nick Adams.
He says, Nick Adams is the adult version of a kid who wasn't allowed to watch SpongeBob.
If you know, you know.
The response is sharp.
No one has ever told me what I am or I'm not allowed to watch because I'm not a beta male soy latte drinking communist like yourself.
But the fight goes on.
So, at some point, Frank Cochorella digged up an old tweet of Nick Adams, alpha male, who literally writes, alphas don't need to announce their alphas, everyone just knows.
See, that's why it's in the parenthesis.
It's because it's implied, you know?
Yes, and you don't need to...
But that's logically possible and coherent because you don't need to announce it, but no problem.
That doesn't mean that you cannot announce it.
And what was his response to this tweet?
Everyone on Twitter knows you've never been to this in your entire life.
You should probably delete your account, actually.
And next, the next tweet shows a general principle on how to handle haters online.
He says, beta males always criticize men who are more accomplished or better looking than them.
That's how I know all my haters are beta males.
Okay.
Alright.
Okay, so the thing is, I think he's also commenting on British royal affairs.
Is he?
Yes, because he has a global perspective.
Oh, okay, yeah.
Well, he's saying stuff I completely agree with here.
So he says, Prince Harry is the ultimate...
Better male.
He abandoned his family.
He takes instructions from his wife.
He's a male feminist.
He's whipped.
He has extremely low testosterone.
He says "Wake House Piss." This is all true.
Especially having watched- and no, I'm not watching the next three episodes of it, you can't make me.
But having watched the first three episodes of Harry and Meghan, and if you want to see mine and Dan's take on that, you can watch the segment we did on it from a few days ago.
That was abysmal, and Harry is every single one of these things that he's accusing him of.
So that's very true.
So as an aspiring leader of the Alpha Male Club, he is responsible for its members.
So next tweet, he says, I always liked Tiger Woods because of his friendship with President Trump, but his recent actions have been very troubling.
His Alpha Male membership card is currently suspended until further evaluation.
If Tiger backs Trump for 2024, he will be reinstated as an Alpha.
So this guy is in charge of the alpha cards that we get handed out.
Okay, alright.
So now, how does my candidate strike you now that you have a more holistic picture?
Full picture.
He seems like he posts entertaining tweets, and some would say that's enough to get you in the White House.
But I'm still not particularly sold on the whole alpha male culture thing.
I do, honestly, being serious, find it a bit cringe that the guy feels the need to put alpha male in his Twitter handle, although for all I know, he might just be kind of trolling on the haters, so to speak.
Joke aside, I agree with you.
This mentality doesn't help.
It doesn't seem to have much substance behind it.
Especially if you're supposed to be right-wing and conservative and all this sort of stuff, you should be, I'd say, promoting more wholesome family values.
I don't know that just saying everybody needs to go to Hooters...
Is the solution for all of that.
And once again, I'm not American.
I've never been to Hooters, so I don't understand really...
Well, I understand the appeal of it, okay?
But I don't understand the family values aspect that comes to it.
I think there are more pressing talking points that you could get onto.
Although, raising awareness, if he's got a lot of followers of stuff like Pizza Hut, promoting trans issues and such things, these are important things that I think as many people as we can get on board for fighting back against that.
So if you were to vote on the alpha male primaries, because, I mean, if you had to, who would you vote for?
Tate or Adams?
Tate or Adams?
Well, can I spoil my ballot?
I think you have to make a choice.
All right, I have to.
Well, purely because of the fact that he's not saying that he wants to Islamify the entirety of the West, I'm going to have to go with Nick Adams.
Okay.
Okay.
So one thing I want to say is that although the alpha-beta male distinction seems to me to be a bit nonsense, or at least not as helpful, let's put it this way.
I do think that there are definite different distinctive categories that you can put men into based on their behavior, how they speak and compose themselves.
But I actually agree with one of his previous statements that an alpha male, somebody who does take on a dominant role, somebody who is strong and forceful but also inspires leadership, should not have to announce.
It's the same way as the old, you know, a true king should never have to say I'm the king.
I agree with this.
But the thing is that many men feel that they have to listen to a role model.
And wouldn't you say that...
So, okay...
Okay, that's a joke.
But what I find really interesting about this mentality is its positivity.
Oh yeah, I like the positivity behind the whole thing.
Being able to take your enemy's insults with a smile.
That's always nice.
And not only this, he doesn't seem to be very negative, or at least as negative as Tate.
Because the focus is not on the evils of women.
The focus is on an unapologetic stance about having fun.
Yeah, being friendly, having fun, all that sort of stuff.
Okay, and finally, if you're undecided about Christmas presents, Nick Adams has...
Oh no, he's promoting the Trump NFT cards.
He says, struggling to find the perfect Christmas gift card for the alpha male in your life.
Look no further.
President Trump digital trading cards, the most dangerous president in history by Nick Adams, Hooters gift card, a case of domestic beer, Tim Tebow Jacksonville Jaguars jersey.
Alright, and there you go.
And with that, let's get on to some more Christmas ideas, why don't we?
Because it's time to see what Santa Claus...
Oh!
Do you hear that?
That Santa Claus coming down your chimney right now...
There to put bugs in your bowls.
I hope you've left some cockroaches out for him on the dinner table or else you'll be very disappointed and some lovely bug juice to go with it.
Because we're going to take a look at Christmas with the Schwabs because we found a wonderful, wonderful...
World Economic Forum post on their website talking about six sustainable gift ideas for the holiday period, but before we get to that, if you do have any woke family members that you not necessarily like, but you love them anyway because they're family members, so you put up with them around the Christmas period...
If we want to get them something that will really put a smile on their face in the way that only an overly long and complicated leftist meme can, I found this monstrosity for everybody to observe.
A Merry Corruption of a Pagan Holiday premium t-shirt On Redbubble, a woke t-shirt that says, Merry capitalist, consumer-driven corruption of a pagan fertility holiday, I mean Christmas.
Merry Christmas.
And just like every bloody leftist meme I've ever seen, mucho texto, bro.
Mucho texto.
But I can imagine some people actually wearing this shirt.
It's all about negativity.
Oh, it's absolutely all about negativity.
It's leftist narcissism because every situation they want to be in, they have to make it about them.
This shirt is not one that says, talk to me, I'm inviting.
This one that says, talk to me, I've got a four-hour intersectional lecture right up my sleeve and waiting for you.
I need to tell you about how Jesus was actually a brown man and Jesus was a socialist because, you know, you've got Navarra Media and all those sorts of places that love to throw that one in the face.
And I've already discussed that before, I think I've discussed it in the weekend segments with Josh, that I think if you look at the descendants of people who were living in the area that Jesus is from, if you look at the descendants of the people who were living there back 2,000 years ago, they're basically white guys, and they've got long brown shaggy hair and beards, almost like classic depictions of Jesus.
So, these people, they don't love family, they don't love anything, they just hate you, and they hate the fact that you enjoy things.
And they hate celebration.
They really do.
They really do.
But you know who does love celebration?
Celebration of world domination is Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum, who want to give you six sustainable gift ideas for the holiday period.
And honestly, it says sustainable, it might as well say boring.
Six boring gift ideas for the holiday period.
This list is for the Greta Thunberg of your family, because if you have a climate activist in your family, they are going to Love some of the holiday gift ideas in here for Christmas.
So they point out some actually genuinely, you know, reasonable things, saying the holiday season can be expensive and wasteful.
45% of consumers in Brazil plan to spend less on gifts in 2022 as inflation bites.
I don't know why Brazil has to be specified, because I'm pretty sure everyone is planning on spending less.
Maybe it has to do something with the Amazon.
Probably.
They just want to throw the Amazon in there.
Brazil makes you think of the Amazon.
The Amazon gets cut down.
This is bad.
I mean, yeah, it's bad, but okay, your solutions are terrible.
As well as cutting costs, sustainable presents can help in the battle against climate change, because that's what I think of when I look at presents to get my family members.
I think, how could this help fight climate change, though?
That's what they think.
That's the first question they ask me when they open the wrapping paper as well.
They go, I hope you didn't get much of a carbon footprint getting me this.
Yes, but you see, even babies and children are environmentally polluting for them.
So, I mean, if children are bad for the environment, what wouldn't be?
Well, let's find out, why don't we?
For a gift, I mean.
Yeah, yeah.
They mention Americans are forecast to spend an average of $832 on gifts, decorations and food, according to the National Retail Federation.
Yet not all gifts are even well received.
Last Christmas, a survey in the UK found that the average amount spent on an unwanted gift was $50.
So this list is how to tell you how to get an unwanted gift at a cheaper price.
Because trust me, people are not going to want this stuff.
Well, actually, I say that.
People are not going to want some of this stuff.
Because some of this stuff isn't too bad.
Like, they've got vegan leather and clothes from 100% plant material.
That's absolutely fine.
Vegan leather is...
That's acceptable.
Fine.
That's fine.
I know people who have clothes...
But maybe it starts with vegan leather and ends with pronouns and communism.
I mean, we need to get Nick Adams on the case, obviously.
But 100% plant material?
I've got shirts made from hemp, you know?
I was a hippie at uni, so come on.
So that's not too bad.
That's all fine.
It's not as cheap as they're suggesting, though.
But it's a start.
And then they say sustainable, responsibly sourced products from the Amazon.
Fun!
That sounds thrilling, doesn't it?
Peruvian firm Chiwi was set up by an indigenous Amazon nut collectors who harvest the region's protected natural areas sustainably.
As well as selling foods, the company also produces natural oils from the harvest and funds conservation efforts in the Amazon.
So if you've got A lady friend in your life?
Perhaps natural oils harvested from the Amazon?
Honestly, women being like pigeons, if you just say, oh, it's natural oils from the Amazon, 99% of women are going to go, wow!
Wow, so that might actually be a decent one to get.
Yeah, because it's the idea that you thought of them.
The gift doesn't matter.
It's the thought that counts.
No, it depends on the woman.
If we're talking about a gold digger.
Yeah, you can get your gold diggers, but if it's someone you love or a family member, then the thought is what counts.
And then you can get sustainable for number three, sustainable seaweed products.
Mummy, mummy, mummy!
Have I got sustainable seaweed products for this year for Christmas?
Have you got me some sustainable seaweed products?
No one wants sustainable seaweed products.
Seaweed's gross!
I know people eat seaweed, but apparently, I mean, I had Carl and people telling me how amazing seaweed was in the office yesterday.
Turns out all the seaweed they've just been eating is cabbage!
I think there is something more sinister behind this.
They want to make children hate Christmas.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Maybe.
I think whoever wrote this article is getting some coal for Christmas, because if you're suggesting that you get your kids sustainable seaweed products, but then again, maybe they make interesting stuff out of seaweed.
So they say about how humans have been eating seaweed since prehistoric times.
That doesn't matter.
It's gross.
I don't want to eat seaweed.
Since prehistoric times, great.
Then we should have stopped at prehistoric times, as far as I'm concerned.
If you're watching this and you eat seaweed, keep it to yourself, okay?
Today, a startup based in Maine on the Atlantic coast of the United States is farming kelp to help provide sustainable and nutritious food.
NASA says the Gulf of Maine is warming faster than 99% of the world's oceans, putting the local fishing industry at risk, and the Atlantic Sea Farm Supplements' fishing incomes by creating seaweed nurseries, which the company says is...
Each capture over 3,600 kilograms of CO2 every year.
And I noticed the problem at this point, which is it's not actually giving you gift ideas.
It's just giving you these general range of gift nebulous categories.
You can maybe go...
You just go to Santa Claus and you say, like, oh, what can I get for Christmas?
Ah, maybe something like this.
Ah, maybe some seaweed or something.
I don't know, man.
You know, like, this isn't useful.
It's woke Santa.
Yeah, Woke Santa has no idea.
Woke Santa has got you a notebook that you can write your next gender studies dissertation in or something.
I think I have an idea.
Maybe we should have a chocolate advent calendar wrapped with paper and having gender pronouns on it.
We would have chocolate all year.
Maybe...
I'm not...
But this article, as you can tell, the ideas are rubbish.
Number four is planting trees in Africa.
Once again, that's a nice sentiment.
Nice enough sentiment.
Number five, helping restore the world's coral reefs.
I doubt, you know, I want something to open under the tree, Klaus.
Come on.
Number six, push back the desert in Sahel, Africa, or Sahil, however you pronounce it.
So I just imagine this one translates to you just get your loved one a pocket full of sand and then you just throw it in their face on Christmas morning to really show them the love.
But now we've gone through that travesty.
This is very considerate gifts, because instead of buying you a gift, my children, you know, I did something good for the world.
Yeah, that's going to make your kids feel great.
Aren't you proud of Daddy?
Once again, you're actually right.
It's kind of like that original shirt that I just showed.
It's not about spreading joy or cheer.
It's about letting everybody know how virtuous you are.
That's what these gifts are all about.
But now we've gone through that particular travesty, let's get an idea of what good presents you could get for Christmas.
Because I found this wonderful article from The Guardian, which I think thinks it's trying to dunk on the right wing.
But actually, I'm interested.
I'm interested in some of these ideas.
Let's see.
Build the Wall Blocks and InfoWars Whiskey.
What the far right are gifting this Christmas.
And like I say, they think this is a dunk.
But I love some of the suggestions in it.
We're spoiled for choice when it comes to completely bonkers conservative merchandise.
Wonderful!
I mean, we've even got Donald Trump NFTs now.
Why?
Why, Donald?
Anyway, Donald Trump's ascent in 2016 kicked off a boom in the extremism economy.
The only link that they have for anything to that is a hilarious article from The Progressive magazine which complains that right-wing memes are now allowed to be sold on shirts.
Yep, that's the only thing.
The extremism economy, ooh, watch out.
The internet's littered with retailers like Magamall and the Patriot Depot, selling everything from t-shirts with slogans like, Fully vaccinated by the blood of Jesus.
I mean, some of those companies are really cringe, to be fair.
This will count as emotional disturbance to woke people.
Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure.
I'm looking at you wearing the t-shirt with the slogan like, fully vaccinated by the blood of Jesus, and they say, no, you say Jesus, but, you know, this is Christian, it's not...
My pronouns are praise him or something like that, and they're just having a little meltdown.
No, and we've also got festive gun holsters as well.
If you're trying to find a holiday present for the far-right extremist in your life, the options are endless.
So I've curated a helpful list, and honestly, thank you very much, Guardian, because I had no idea some of these products existed before, and now I just think they're quite fun.
And like I say, you've still got...
You watching this right now, you've still got about a week before Christmas, lads.
You've still got the chance to go out and pick something up.
And even perfect for all of this, this is the...
Catch all gift, which is Let's Go Brandon Wrapping Paper.
I see the Build the Wall Lego.
Yeah, yeah.
But the wrapping paper is supplementary, but it's a good start for your extremist cousin.
You know, it puts him on the right footing, gets him in the right mood when he comes down for Christmas, and he finds that all his presents are wrapped in Let's Go Brandon.
So a Georgia company called Freedom Speaks Up claims it sold over 500,000 square foot of the novelty wrapping paper last year and expects to double that number this year.
We're having tons of fun with this.
There's no way to spend 20 bucks and get more smiles on Christmas morning, the CEO said in a statement.
Heartwarming stuff.
This is what Christmas is all about, eh?
And that's the editorializing from The Guardian at the end there.
And I agree.
If it puts a smile on people's faces, it's heartwarming, it's family-orientated, then yeah, I understand that leftists really don't understand this, evidently, because they've written a joke article about it, but it's relatively wholesome.
I mean, come on.
Imagine waking up New Year's Eve and finding this Lego under the tree.
Yeah, wrapped in my Let's Go brand and wrapping it.
Honestly, if I got this for Christmas, it would get a chuckle out of me.
And that's where the whole, like, it's the thought that counts part comes in.
It doesn't need to, you know, if I get a build-the-wall Lego set, it's what?
I can get any random Lego set and build a wall with it, but it's the thought that counts.
It's the fact that it puts a smile on your face.
And that's what Christmas is about.
It's about sharing the joy and funny moments with your family, the kind of moments that you get with your family that sustainable seaweed products are not going to get you.
And then we've got the MAGA Build the Wall construction set.
The marketing blurb also claims that the left needed psychiatric help after seeing the Build the Wall set for the first time, and now they're furious that it's back.
And it is...
Kind of cringe, but it is a bit funny, because The Guardian is actually playing into this by accident.
The author of this article, she can say that she didn't get goaded on by the gifs like these, but she still did write an entire article about them, seething that conservatives can have fun at Christmas, while putting on the jokey, I'm just above all of this attitude that we're seeing in the prose and the editorialising here.
I'm too good for Christmas.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm too good for Christmas.
I'm too good to share funny moments with my family, which is what it's all about.
And then we've got Alex Jones' conspiracy theory-themed whiskey, literally just called Conspiracy, which...
What's a conspiracy-themed whiskey?
It's called conspiracy and the label is supposed to look like kind of redacted documents.
That's it.
Rumour has it that Alex Jones, the guy who's recently ordered to pay nearly $1.5 billion in damages to the victims of families of the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shooting after years of spreading lies about the tragedy on his InfoWars show, He very briefly spread misinformation about it.
I agree with that.
He has apologized for it profusely, time and time again since then.
And just to comment on it, because I don't think we've done a segment on it, I do not think he should be being charged anywhere near billions of dollars of damages for this.
He has apologized.
He has already paid out to many of the families.
Sad to say, I think a lot of these families are using this as a free meal ticket.
Obviously what happened to them is tragic, but what's being done to Alex Jones is just making an example of him, rather than actually providing any justice for those families.
But, either way, to possibly recoup some of those costs, he's going to be releasing a Whiskey Call conspiracy.
And honestly...
I like whiskey.
Me too.
I might try it, you know?
Who knows?
Maybe on the...
I like smoked ones.
Ooh, smoked whiskeys are very nice.
Perhaps post-Christmas podcast I might be able to do a little review of it.
Who knows?
We could do it together.
Yes, maybe that would be an interesting segment.
I love Isla review.
Yeah, and then we've got this last one on the list, a cute little Trumpy Bear, which can go along with your nice little Trump NFT cards now.
Trumpy Bear, 22-inch long stuffed toy with Trump-style toupee.
First appeared on the scene in 2017 with a completely absurd commercial.
When America is great, business is great, said one man in the advert.
When business is great, I'm great.
I love you, Trumpy Bear.
That's quite sweet.
That's kind of sweet.
It's a bit cringe, but it's kind of sweet.
Trumpy bear with a red tie.
With the red tie and the collar.
How big are his paws?
I think we need to see how big the paws are.
And they point out it's a real product that retailed for $60 and flew off the shelves during the holidays.
They're very popular gift items both for people who like and dislike the president.
So it's a genius marketing strategy, because if you like the president, you just get it because you think it's sweet.
If you hate him, you get it so that you can tear it up in front of your children, who will see just a teddy bear being ripped up, and you can ruin Christmas for them even more while they suck on their sustainable seaweed products.
And those who are against Trump and believe in voodoo practices, they may take this and try to use it as an effigy.
Genius.
We never tap into the voodoo market.
We really should start to look into that a bit more.
If you missed out on getting your hands on one for a while while Trump was in office, you'd be glad to know that the bear is still available.
Presidents may come and go, but a Trumpy bear is forever.
Ends this particular article.
And once again, they might think they're dunking on us.
I think that's a relatively sweet sentiment to end it off with.
It's a shockingly sweet ending to the article.
But realistically, obviously, this has all been a bit of fun so far.
This has been jokey.
Obviously, we don't want you to get World Economic Forum rubbish presents for your parents and your family and your loved ones.
And as fun as these ones are, you know, it's a bit of a novelty item.
You've got the build-the-wall Lego set.
You've got your Trumpy Bear.
You know, you've got all of that.
We know what you really want.
You want something useful.
You want something sustainable.
You want something that's going to give you some virality in your life.
You want something that's going to make all of the ladies turn your heads while you walk down the road.
You want something that's going to...
Bring the spark back into your love life.
And what can you do better than that?
Than our very own merch store, where you can get things like this.
The Lotus Eaters hoodie.
Go to the next one, John.
It's time to plug some merch.
That's right.
This entire segment was just here so I could plug the merch store.
That's right.
We've got amazing shirts with the they are lying, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, yet they're still lying t-shirt.
Rolls!
Straight off the tongue.
Imagine the look of joy and delight on your mother's face as she opens up her Let's Go Brandon wrapping paper and finds your very own official Lotus Eaters beach towel in there, ready for the summer holidays just right around the corner from Christmas.
Honestly, we do have some really great products in here.
We've got the hoodies, we've got the shirts, we've got tote bags, we've got phone cases.
You can get your Lotus Eaters mugs for your miserable old granddad and he'll really appreciate it.
He'll give you a little smirk.
The kind that you've not got out of him in years.
So much good that you can get off here.
You still have a week.
Who knows?
You might be able to get something in time before then.
I don't know what the delivery times are.
John, what are the delivery times?
John doesn't know either.
Roll the dice!
You might be able to get it before Christmas.
But anyways, you don't want to disappoint your mum, do you?
Because she will be disappointed otherwise.
Buy our merch!
There you go.
And to everyone watching on YouTube and on the website, I do hope, honestly, jokes aside, that the season is treating you well, as well as possible in the current economic conditions that we're experiencing.
And I do hope that you all get to see your family and have a very, very Merry Christmas.
We do all of this in jest.
We talk about a lot of miserable news a lot of the time.
But honestly, Christmas time is a time for family.
It's time for spending special moments with your family and friends.
It's time to make memories.
So, Merry Christmas to all of you, and let's move on to the video.
And let me also wish you a Merry Christmas.
Yeah, let's move on to the video comments as well.
Hello, Stelios.
Hello.
Hello, everybody peeps!
Ironic, postmodern, keep up Stavros, racist.
Greeks loved it.
That's very nice.
Shockingly enough...
It's inventive.
Yeah, I actually, last night, started watching the Harry Enfield's television program again, because for Harry and Meghan, I had to reinstate my bloody Netflix account.
And it's on there now, so I was having some good times watching the true backstory of Tim Nice But Dim.
Have you watched...
No, no, I haven't.
Have you not watched Harry Enfield?
My fiancé hadn't watched him either.
It's so good.
It's so fun.
It's a really good show.
I'd recommend it.
I will.
In fact, watch the segments.
I think they were more from the Harry and Paul show in the mid-2000s.
Watch the segments where he completely blacks up as Nelson Mandela and sells you MDMA. Those are hilarious.
And then also watch the ones about women needing to know their place in the kitchen and behind the driver's seat.
My dear friends and associates, I am cognizant of my prolonged absence, and I am aware that many people at the Lotus Eaters undoubtedly fear for my safety.
I write to inform you that I took up a great adventure, as any Brit ought to, upon hearing about a land supposedly full of monsters and anomalies.
Hence, grabbing my pith helmet and my warmest, thickest jacket, I ventured over the pond and explored this storied, cursed land.
Now, upon my return, I intend to regale you with the tales of my exploits.
Sit tight, and enjoy the gentlemen's observations of Ohio.
Mmm.
Very interesting.
I'm very, very glad to hear that you're right, Thane Scotty of Swindon.
We have been worried about you.
There's been certain deliberations done in the office about whether we need to send a rescue party out to retrieve you.
I'm glad to hear the word that you're safe.
I look forward to hearing...
I also like...
I think the image is from Zulu with Michael Caine.
I may be wrong, but...
It was.
That was a lovely movie.
Yeah, I... I've not watched it.
I need to watch it.
I really need to watch it.
I know it's a classic.
I've just not watched it.
I've seen some of the important scenes from it.
I've seen the speech that he gives.
I've seen the charge of the Zulus over the hill and everything.
I've seen all of that.
I just need to actually watch the film.
That's what I need to do.
Anyway, let's carry on.
Hello.
I would like to present my ongoing project, Champions of the Ice.
I've spent what little spare time and money I've had in the past decade developing the characters, story, and world it takes place in, so allow me to briefly summarize.
A thousand years have passed since the end war resulted in our civilization's collapse, from one of over 12 billion people, which span most of our solar system, to less than a quarter of a billion people permanently trapped on Earth by our own hubris.
We are an endangered species, and to make matters worse, we are no longer the top of the food chain.
Weaponized organisms, malfunctioning terraforming equipment, automated minefields, and countless abominations born from the ashes of the old world plague mankind.
As glaciers grip the north and south like the frozen fangs of a cosmic predator, the lethal ecosystem of the greenhouse spreads out from the equator like a cancer.
And with the sky shield orbital array in place, we couldn't flee the planet even if we wanted to.
In essence, Earth has become the ultimate cage match of survival of the fittest.
Central themes include family, courage, sacrifice, and the evolution of mankind.
Not just in terms of our physical forms, but our cultures, religions, and technology.
If you would like to support my ongoing work, you can find me on Ko-fi and, when I'm not getting put in time out for picking fights with stupid people, Twitter.
All proceeds go directly into the bottomless pit of paying my art team to bring my ideas to life.
Thank you for your time, and may the Sages of Gunpowder and Steel watch over you.
That was very good artwork.
Yeah, thank you very much for that.
That sounds really interesting.
I might have to take a look into that because, like you said, the artwork looked amazing.
It seems that supporting the artists and paying you so you can pay the artists seems to be great because they're doing awesome stuff there.
And the world you're describing sounds really interesting as well.
I want to make a small confession that I'm a big fantasy buff.
I don't think that's a small confession around these parts.
You've got nothing to be ashamed of.
No, no, it's not an issue of shame.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I open up.
Generally, when you say confession, people think it's shameful or something.
No, no, no.
Not at all.
And I always go on the internet and view artwork.
Oh yeah, fantasy artwork.
Some of my friends have been trying to write their own fantasy universes.
It's something that I think I tried to do when I was like 15 years old.
I was very bad.
I was very bad at it.
Writing needs a lot of patience.
It really does.
Especially when we are younger, we just say, okay, yeah, when's the battle about to begin?
Yeah, that's the thing.
When you're, like, 15 years old, you think, I want to write a fantasy story, and you just think, big, amazing fight, really cool scene.
You just watch Lord of the Rings, and you just think, how can I write my Helm's Deed?
And then you don't remember that there's a lot of build-up to get to that point.
But, like...
Writing a fantasy universe is not something that I would want to put myself through just because of the amount of detail that you have to go into.
Not just in terms of how's the magic going to work, what the characters are like.
No, if you want to create your own universe, you've got to figure out what are the provinces, what cities are there, what's the governmental system, what are the relationships between different power structures in there, what are the economies.
It's so ridiculous the amount of detail that you've got to go into.
So, congratulations for actually putting the time and effort into that.
Let's carry on.
So, Carl Benjamin might remember me saying once in one of the episodes that I renowned among friends for being unlucky.
I don't look like I'm in my normal house, do I? On the gold-tier call, I mentioned I was going to be visiting my girlfriend in Christmas.
Where am I going with this?
The airport lost my suitcase.
The airport completely lost where my suitcase is.
What can you do?
Wait, so are you at your girlfriend's now and you've just not got your stuff with you?
If so, that sucks, because, you know, only having a small change of clothes with you is going to be really annoying.
Yeah, I think Sam Brinton might have managed to get a hold of your suitcase there, Harry.
I'm sorry to say, you know, I think some untoward things might be being done with your clothes at the moment.
Anyway, let's move on to the next one.
Has anyone else noticed that Nemo looks weirdly similar to Maximilian from Sliders?
I mean, it's kind of appropriate because they're both kind of arrogant academic people.
There's even an episode where Maximilian becomes a men's rights activist in a world that's ruled by women.
like that would ever happen.
I've not seen sliders there.
That sounds interesting.
I think I watched the clip that you got those images of AA from, and most of the comments commenting on his appearance...
Made note of the fact that one, they thought he was going to be skinnier, two, they thought he was going to be older, and three, that he looks like Carl's older brother, despite the fact that Carl is actually slightly older than AA himself.
There's some observation I've not seen before.
Anyway, let's carry on to the next one.
I know it's by design that leftists are treated leniently in the legal system while conservatives are not.
But do you think we're going to see some actual accountability between FTX and Twitter?
I feel like both are big enough scandals that figuratively heads should roll, and yet...
I have my doubts.
As do I. FTX, the fact that SBF has been arrested is a good sign, but you don't know if...
Because I think...
But you don't know if that's just playing into somebody else's agenda, because Catherine, the woman that he was going out with, who was the head of...
The research facility...
Alameda?
I think that was the name of Alameda.
The other research company that he was the head of, but she was the CEO of.
She seemed to potentially be in a position where she was getting together with a Clinton lawyer, and she was in Washington, D.C., I think it was, around the times that the commissions and the House hearings were supposed to be going on around it.
So she might have flipped and given some information on him that's led to his arrest, but you don't know if this is just going to be some big ongoing legal battle between the two of them.
Because basically, at the end of the day, both of them are democratic operatives.
And while you've got a democratic presidency in the White House, you can't expect true justice to come to them.
And the fact that...
Oh, sorry.
It's a good question to pose, yes.
I mean...
Yeah, I think the legal system in the US being so tilted towards the left is because the left have managed to pass all of the legislation they've ever wanted since the 1950s and 1960s, and then you've had activist judges helping to nudge it along with setting precedents in the way that they've decided cases.
So the legal system in the US is basically entirely set up to support leftist and progressive goals and ambitions.
So that's how I see it, at least.
But we'll go on to the written comments, shall we?
So Dominicus Monarchist says, Stelios, at first I wasn't sure what to make of you as a new presenter, but within just a few appearances you seem noticeably less nervous and are much more compelling to listen to.
Also like the subtle and possibly even unintended humour you sprinkle in.
Hope you get even more comfortable and confident in your role and keep up the good work.
Thank you very much.
This means a lot, honestly.
Rue of the Day has another compliment for you, and she says, just imagine a heart-ice emoji for both of you, especially Stelios.
I completely forgot it even said that, to be honest, so thank you for pointing it out to me.
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Rue of the Day as well, aggressively cheerful Harry is my favourite Harry.
The more dreary the segment, the better.
Yeah, that's right, because mainly...
We're so miserable here, oftentimes.
I know that people often complain about the fact that we dispense so many black pills day after day after day, and honestly, it gets me down as well.
So sometimes I've just got to pep myself up, get in the Christmas cheer mood, and get ready...
You know, if I can't be the one being happy, I can at least try and make others happy, right? - Yeah. - You know, and that'll make me feel happier.
So that's my attitude towards it sometimes. - It's what Christmas is about.
Exactly.
It's about, you know, the only way to feel better in yourself is to commit yourself to helping others.
Yeah, and to be positive, as opposed to constantly blaming the system, other people.
I mean, obviously, you can be very legit in saying all of those things and blaming those things.
Yes, but at the end of the day, we need to find the silver lining.
We need to do the Nick Adams approach.
Yes.
And we need to approach destruction with a smile.
There you go.
Captain Charlie the Beagle, Harry, I think you missed your calling as a Cockney Street trader.
similarly Dominicus Monicus says telemarketer Harry is someone I didn't know I needed in my life general hi ping Chinese internet battalion genuinely can't stop laughing has Harry ever been a car salesman no but I have worked in an insurance phone line before for mobile phone insurance which I did not work on sales I worked in complaints.
So possibly what I've found is the ability to channel the anti-complaints energy.
Because complaints was just sitting there telling people, no you can't have something.
Whereas sales is sitting there with a big smile on your face saying, yes you should have something.
So that's where I'll take that one.
So, on to the more pressing comments, the more relevant comments.
Like I say, that's why if they want to actually enforce anything like this, they would need to incorporate some kind of digital ID. Because otherwise, there's no way you can enforce it.
You would probably have to have it set up agreements with the actual internet websites, like Twitter, for instance, that they would need verification of your age, in the same way that if you use certain websites, they need to verify your age for it, and they need ID to do so.
And the government will just say, well, the easiest way you can do that is just get our digital ID, use it when you sign up for your internet provider, and then bam, you've got it all sorted.
Ignoring the fact that Parents have parental control measures that they can already take with web access, especially on, say, kids' iPads and such.
Lots of people don't seem to actually use it.
Or the very fact that the government is trying to push this suggests that maybe not enough people are using it.
Or maybe everybody uses it, and the government just wants to put in more legislation so they can sneak in more restrictions under the guise of child safety protection.
So...
It could be any number of those things.
They can't keep getting away with it!
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement.
LeFranche said, good parents should not let their children on social media or other addictive apps at all.
I completely agree, but once again, as long as the government's more than happy to take a step instead of the parents taking the steps, then parents are just going to be lax with the way that they treat this, and then they're just going to complain, oh, where did I go wrong?
Why is my child cutting their knob off?
Maybe because you should have paid a bit more attention to the websites that they were visiting.
Yes.
Freewill2112, what's the likelihood that mainstream conservative opinions will eventually be deemed harmful online content quite high as the Overton window of acceptable thought moves ever leftward?
I would say that most mainstream conservative opinions are already deemed harmful online content by people who used to run Twitter, which is why it's wonderful that Elon took over and has kind of removed those blocks for us, but this legislation will be like...
It would be like Twitter on acid.
It would be like Twitter times a billion, you know, because it's going to have legislative power behind it to fine you, not just to take you off the platforms altogether.
Colin P., my biggest concern about anything with the word harms in it is who defines harm, as you were pointing out.
This is very insightful because it's easy to...
We lead ourselves into the idea that it is obvious that this is harmful.
And when you have the power, you have the power to implement what you consider to be obvious.
Yeah, and we know the sorts of people that are in charge of these organizations.
We know what they consider harm to be.
So all of a sudden, if we're regulated by Ofcom, we can't talk about basically anything that we regularly talk about.
We've just got to go on.
Disagreement with them is included in harm.
Yeah, either that or suddenly we're forced to hire a lot of people who have opposing viewpoints to us.
Even though we have a great diversity of opinion in the office already, all of a sudden we're having to hire actual leftists just so that we can have balance, in the same way that BBC Question Time has balance, where they'll have Peter Hitchens surrounded by ten leftists.
It's just what always happens.
Excuse me.
Robert Longshore, where can I find the template permission forms I can get signed by an individual whom I have taken naked pictures of?
And after these pics have been released into the web, can that individual retract the consent given?
All good questions.
Who knows?
Robert Longshore again says parents should be banning kids from social media and porn.
Yes, they should.
Both of these have the same bad effects on the brain as cocaine.
Porn drugs and social media hijack the natural chemical brain processes via endorphin release, which reinforce both good and behaviours in humans.
That is all very true, but like I say, if the government's willing to step in, parents will step back.
Andrew Narog says, I mean, some days the Lotus Eaters do certainly seem like a black pill factory, but that has more to do with life being full of black pills than anything you all are doing.
Very grateful for the work that you all do.
Thank you for recognizing that, because honestly it does affect us a bit sometimes as well.
Certainly it's affected me.
It has affected me as well.
And you've not even been here that long.
Yes, but Wednesday's topics were a bit disturbing.
Yeah, they were a bit sad.
Do you want to read some of your comments?
Yes.
Okay, so.
Alpha male primaries.
Dear Andrew Tate, Muhammad wore women's clothes and kissed little boys.
Ooh.
Radnor Mehariel.
I can't help but feel like anyone who has to describe themselves as an alpha male is not one.
Surely someone quiet and stoic who just gets on with his duty without making a fuss about how great he is for a better example.
Edward, I think that's fair.
You don't have to say this.
I also don't think that you...
To be an alpha male, I don't think you have to be quiet and stoic.
And I'm not just saying that because I'm a very loud and exuberant person.
But you don't have to be quiet and stoic.
You can be passionate.
You can be courageous.
You can be fierce and full of fire.
But the sorts of people who call themselves alpha males are generally twats, to be honest.
Edward of Woodstock.
I disagree with the alpha male, sigma male philosophies outside of memes.
No, we should be cultivating virtuous behavior.
Being a virtuous man among other virtuous men, and as iron sharpens iron, becoming better because of it.
In order to cultivate a new mindset, we need to be both in competition and cooperation with one another.
Alpha male posting is rather brittle.
Also, Hooter is not virtuous, needless to say.
Yes, the whole segment was supposed to be a joke.
Yeah, I'm sure this Nick Adams is a nice guy, but what he's saying is, like, I can agree with some things, but then I can agree with some things that Andrew Tate is saying as well.
I don't agree with his worldview, though.
Okay.
So, Robert Longshaw.
Fortnite is great.
Always turn on team chat.
11 years old shit.
Taking each other is nostalgic and wholesome.
Beautiful.
I'm so glad that that culture still exists.
Okay, Rajak was right.
You know what?
I'm coming around to Nick Adams' alpha meal.
I was skeptical when he was denouncing Pizza Hut.
After all, no one out pizzas the hat.
Papa John tried and look what it got him.
But if he's against Fortnite and boneless wings, chicken nuggets for people in denial, and makes base jokes on Twitter, he might have a point or two.
I think your campaign is already working there.
Edward of Woodstock.
Honestly, and I really don't mean to be a sycophant as this is his channel.
I think Karl is quite a good alternative to both of these.
The man is fighting the good fight.
He's lost a lot of weight in pursuit of self-improvement.
He has a wife and kids that he has kept out of the spotlight, as one should.
He has his own company that does good in the world.
And at the end of the day, he goes home and paints Warhammer with his kids and friends.
That's an aspirational life, though of course we can't see the bad sides of things other than, of course, dirty, rotten, smear merchants.
That's an interesting point.
Yeah, no, that's all good.
And I'm glad that you brought that up because...
Carl, possibly because I work with him every day, was not the first person that came to mind for it.
Like you say, just because I didn't want to be a sick fan.
But you are right that I think Carl does put a good alternative forward, and I think we, in general, not to be too blowing our own horn or anything, we're trying to put forward a much more positive vision of what men can be.
Wolf Grillington, how is Hooters an alpha thing?
It's like a diet strip club and paying for attention from women is the most better thing I can imagine.
That's true.
It is, of course.
Again, the segment was a joke.
Yeah.
On to Christmas with the Schwabs.
Freewell2112 says, Yep, sounds about right.
Yeah, because we didn't have pizzas yet.
Genius!
That's a good point.
Nick Adams approves this message.
"Casey Darling, hey now, I'm half Korean and I grew up eating seaweed.
It's delicious.
I'm sorry, I don't believe you.
But we balance it out by eating copious amounts of beef with it." See, what you're doing, you're doing what I do when people try and make me food that has vegetables in it.
You just cover it in stuff that makes it not taste like vegetables anymore.
That's what I do.
So you've got...
Yeah, you're eating seaweed, but you're mainly enjoying the beef.
That's how I see it, at least.
But with that, I think that's all the time that we've got for.
So, thank you very much for watching.
We'll be back again on Monday, because it is Friday, and I'm not Callum, I'm not going to mess this up.