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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 19th of December 2022.
I am joined by Carl.
Hello.
And today we're going to be talking about the Thursday Night Massacre, which I have no idea what it is.
Oh, you enjoy it.
Argentina being declared officially non-white.
Finally, I win!
Yeah, I think you are right about this.
Aren't they in the Global South as well?
Yes, they are.
Yeah, officially non-white.
And also, California's Reparations Task Force.
Because that'll solve all of the problems.
Are they literally just going to, like, swap people?
No, they're literally going to pour gold into the pockets of Mercedes-Benz.
That's what.
Oh, this is a good time to invest in Mercedes-Benz, I suppose.
Actually, it really is!
Even though this is not financial advice, as always.
God, I miss Game Stonk.
Anyway.
Oh, just as a quick thing on the game stonks, right?
I meant to bring this up to you, actually, this morning.
So, Henry Cavill has left The Witcher, left Superman, and it was announced that he was going to be directing or producing and starring in a Warhammer live-action TV show.
Guess whose only stonks are in the positive?
That's right, my $100 of Games Workshop stonks.
Actually in the positive.
How much?
$11.
Which is way more than everyone else.
Google, Amazon, all the other, like $100 and all these, all of them tanked.
Games Workshop, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
Just thought I'd mention it.
So your advice to everyone of, like, get off the internet.
Not financial advice.
No, no, your advice has always been, like, get off the internet and get a hobby, and everyone did that, and your songs went up.
Conflict of interest here.
Well, I figured that if I'm going to spend so much money at Games Workshop, I may as well profit from it, and now I'm ten bucks up, which buys me, like, one-fourth of a Land Raider.
I think maybe two Guardsmen?
No, it's probably more than that, actually.
Two Guardsmen, maybe?
How much is a box of Guardsmen?
About thirty...
Yeah, it probably is about two Guardsmen, actually, yeah.
Anyway, enough from the podcast of Warhammer fandom.
We'll get into the podcast a load.
This is a stock trading podcast now.
It happens that this is a stock trading.
Our guest this week is Jim Cramer.
Anyway, let's begin with the Thursday Night Massacre.
Last Thursday was a tragic day on Twitter.com.
If you were a legacy verified checkmark...
Now, I'm not a legacy verified checkmark.
I've signed up, done my bit, paid my $8, because I'm not on Apple, so I don't have to pay $11.
So now I'm officially a retard.
I've been really out of the loop.
What do you mean you've got to pay a different price on Apple?
So Apple scam people who use their Pay app by saying, look, you've got to pay 30% of whatever transaction goes across this app to us.
And so Elon was like, right, okay, we'll just raise the price of Twitter blue on Apple by 30%.
Oh, that's gold.
Yeah, I know.
And I don't use Apple, so I'm only paying eight bucks.
But I've got an official verified checkmark account now, which is not how I thought 2022 was going to end.
First?
Well, I am more retarded than I was bringing it started.
But the point is, I get to wear a little cap that says, I have autism.
So please be nice to me.
The legacy verified checkmark.
So it's nice to call them legacy, because it's even the official thing on Twitter, is a legacy verified checkmark.
And if you bring up the text that is the pop-up on it, it says, this count may or may not be notable.
Times have changed.
They didn't take it well, right?
They did not take this well.
Anyway, and so they've been trying to do everything they can to essentially revolt against Elon Musk.
And Musk has been winning a lot, actually, until about yesterday, which we'll talk about in a little bit.
But the point is, Elon has been winning so much that I think he can be, at the moment, compared to Robert Clive, the conqueror of India for the British, who you can go and watch a premium podcast about on lowseas.com, where me and Bo are discussing Clive of India.
How did he take this gargantuan subcontinent?
Well, gloriously.
That's how.
Anyway, if you want to go support us, go watch that.
It's good stuff.
Because the thing is, right, you can't really make a solid comparison with someone.
Because, I mean, before I was comparing to Napoleon, I was like, oh, Napoleon lost.
That's not good.
We need a comparison.
Also, Napoleon was the bad guy.
Well, to the Russians and the British, yeah.
Well, you know.
Okay, but not to...
What do you need?
Not to Napoleon!
No, he wasn't the bad guy to the French, I don't care.
Well, he might have been the bad guy to the French.
But the point is, you can't really compare someone to a historical figure until their life is over, because you don't know what the outcome is going to be.
And so, before I prepared this segment, I was thinking, well, he's actually quite similar to Robert Clive.
I'm starting to think more like Pyrrhus of the Pirates now.
But we'll get to that in a minute.
But anyway, so, Thursday...
Things started getting brutal.
I recognise that name.
Yeah.
That's the Vox.com editor, isn't it?
It was, but I suppose it still is.
Like, everyone's treating this as if, literally, he's in Twitter, cash in his Twitter, Valhalla.
Did they all decide to delete their Twitter accounts like they said they would?
No.
Account suspended.
Well, what did they do?
Whack!
Do you know who's next?
No.
Matt Binder?
Not familiar with that one.
Do you not remember him from Game& Game?
I'll probably remember if he has his profile picture, but I don't see that anymore.
There's another one.
Whack!
And as Jack Posobiec pointed out, this is turning into a bit of a bloodbath.
Lots of very big left-wing Jeno accounts.
Some may or may not notable people being removed.
Notable if you're in particular spaces.
And so, as Jack Posobiec now points out, he's like, hang on.
Did they dox Elon's private jet?
And it turns out, yeah, they did, actually.
So Elon had posted this.
Last night, a car carrying his son, X, was in LA, followed by a crazy stalker who, thinking it was me, blocked the car from moving and climbed onto the hood.
Legal action is being taken, of course.
But the point is, the person knew roughly where he was and had tracked him down.
And remember the Elon Twitter jet tracking bot?
Well, that's gone as well now, because this appeared that actually, yes, revealing Elon Musk's location in real time kind of has consequences when you are Elon Musk and there are millions of rabid leftists out there who actually probably would kill you if they had the opportunity.
Well, I wouldn't have my location streamed 24-7.
No, I wouldn't.
I think you can do it if you want.
Yeah.
Who would do that?
Yeah.
And so Elon was like, look, actually, we'll have a policy where you can't dox people on Twitter.
You imagine the leftist took that well.
Hang on, that's all we do.
Hasn't that been policy for a long time?
It's just never been applied.
Yes, that's exactly right.
That's exactly right.
It's never been applied.
And then so suddenly, things are...
And Elon literally came out and said, look, journalists will be treated exactly the same as everyone else on Twitter.
And therefore, whack, whack, whack, whack!
A bunch of...
Yeah, exactly.
A bunch of them got suspended for doxing Elon Musk.
And as he points out...
Here, if you go back to the other one...
If anyone posted real-time location in the addresses of New York Times reporters, the FBI would be investigating, there'd be hearings on Capitol Hill, and Biden would be giving speeches about the end of Moxley.
He's right!
Okay, no, no, 4D Chess, bring them all back immediately, and then just start doxing their location.
What are they going to do?
Good point, we don't need a doxing rule on Twitter.com.
I agree, Aaron Rupto, at 52 Elementary Drive.
Which we do not know is his address.
Yeah, yeah, it's completely fair.
And so, yeah, that's a great point.
And people were like, well, should real-time doxing be banned?
And as you said, yes, it actually was, you know?
Yeah, for a good reason, which is, you know, death.
And so half a dozen very infamous journalists got their accounts suspended and all hell broke loose.
Why the hell were they all tweeting it?
To dunk on Elon Musk?
Look, this is where you are or something.
Again, they all think they're invincible.
They were, prior.
The rule never applied to them.
Shame.
The BBC decided to report on this.
There was lots and lots of reporting on this, but of course the BBC, Elon, is...
This is most like regime mouthpiece, I think.
But the United Nations has joined the European Union in condemning Twitter's decision to suspend some journalists who cover the social media firm.
The United Nations.
The European Union.
Like, Elon, you can't suspend Keith Olbermann.
For doxing you!
We will just completely overthrow elections.
Yeah.
I mean, like, the EU, the most merciful example.
Well, no, they don't...
No, no, that's not...
Sorry, they ignore the election.
They ignore the election, just have the election again until they get the result they want.
Yeah.
The United Nations...
I mean, I guess I can listen to China and Russia's opinion on fair treatment of the internet.
I guess I can be lectured by these people.
Piss off, you know.
I don't care about their opinions at all.
I think they're still on the Human Rights Council.
Along with North Korea.
Thank you for your service, North Korea.
Anyway, reporters for the New York Times, CNN and the Washington Post are among those locked out of their accounts.
No.
This is an attack on journalism, you know.
No, that's not.
Media for freedom is not a toy, says Melissa Fleming, the UN's Undersecretary General for Global Communications.
A free press is a cornerstone of democratic societies and a key tool in the fight against harmful disinformation.
Well, Melissa, I have to say, if you don't like what Twitter does as a private platform, go and build your own.
Remember, it's not censorship.
To be refused a platform, they're just showing you the door.
No, Melissa, Melissa, Melissa, just send us your current location.
I mean, I'm sorry, but this is so...
And then we'll put a butt up of you wherever you go.
Yeah, but it would be okay if it's, you know, a day ago, Bill Gates, he went to Jeffrey Epstein's island.
I mean, obviously there's public interest there, right?
Makes sense, doesn't threaten the guy, blah, blah, blah.
But that also doesn't have to be real-time.
Yeah, current, real-time, where you are, I can agree that that probably is not worth defending.
Yeah.
And not really needed.
I don't think that's a component of free speech.
There's an imminent incitement to violence that can be inferred from that.
It seems to be political intimidation, yes.
But again, media freedom is not contingent on the use of Twitter.
As we've been told many, many times, you don't have a right to use social media.
Private platform, do what it wants.
I'm just going by Supreme Court judgments that have shown that every single time have resolved in the favor of the platform under their First Amendment rights.
So sorry, Melissa, you're wrong.
But the BBC, why did this happen?
They haven't told us.
He's just done it.
For no reason.
They didn't actually explain to me.
This thing happened.
Why?
Well, if you go down enough, far enough into the article, they say, Mr.
Musk has not directly commented on the suspensions, but said in a tweet that criticizing me all day long is totally fine, but doxing my real-time location and endangering my family is not.
Right.
So, they were doxing his real-time location and endangering their family.
That's not the headline, BBC. The headline is that Scrooge McMusk has decided to ban all these journalists for no reason because he's an evil tyrant.
Pathetic.
Absolutely pathetic.
Matt arrested by FBI. Why?
Don't ask.
Yeah, exactly.
Because the FBI are just bad.
Actually, the FBI are bad, but we'll get to that.
Yeah, yeah.
But Musk says, the same doxing rules apply to journalists as everyone else.
He said, okay, good.
As it should.
You shouldn't be putting out people's personal location in real time.
And if you do, it seems to be an obvious incitement to harassment, at the very least.
If not violence.
If not violence.
Going by the United States Supreme Court's strongest defense of free speech of any given nation than legal sense.
Even their definition comes down to imminent incitement to violence is something that is banned.
Yes.
And you can reasonably infer this.
Speaking of free speech...
Ooh, so much for commitment to free speech, says Newsweek.
So much to get the...
Okay, Brad, what's your location?
Let us know.
Put it in the comments.
But also, Brad, let's pull up your history of defending free speech, shall we?
Oh, Alex Jones off.
Donald Trump off.
Oh, now it's Keith Olbermann and Taylor Lorenz.
Oh, oh, well, I mean, too much for free speech.
See, this is C.S. Lewis.
No, it was the guy who wrote Dune.
Frank Herbert, where he's like, you know, when they're weak, they'll use your principles against you.
When they're strong, they'll take them away.
This is what is happening right now.
They don't care about free speech.
And of course, Musk knows this, thank God.
He's like, well, so inspiring to see the newfound love of freedom of speech by the press.
A little love heart emoji.
Yeah.
I mean, it is.
You know, they're like 13-year-old tweeting.
It's good.
I'm hoping that he gets to the Chelsea Manning level of tweeting, where everything's in emojis.
Just his entire Twitter policy is now emoji-driven.
As clear as mud.
But the point is that Musk clearly understands that these people are disingenuous snakes who are just saying this because they hope it'll pull on Musk and be like, oh yeah, no, I do have to let him back on.
No, you don't, right?
I mean, no mention in the BBC of the Twitter files.
Do you know anything about the Twitter files?
I remember hearing about it.
Right, well, it's quite important.
It just shows that Twitter, essentially before Musk, just to summarize all of it, were kind of like a woke cult that were desperate, proud of deplatforming Donald Trump and everyone else, and were quite willing to just comply with every FBI request they got.
Do you know how many FBI requests they got?
Ten?
About 150.
That's quite a lot.
Do you know, there were some accounts.
FBI requests for what, exactly?
Deplatforming.
Censor this person, say the FBI. The FBI say, we don't like this guy, get rid of him.
Yes.
He's not broken any law.
No.
Otherwise they'd arrest him.
Of course not.
They had 80 people.
It's the FBI. They had 80 people on the team monitoring Twitter for tweets that they didn't like.
They're all getting paid.
They're all getting paid by the taxpayer.
So how much is that, yeah?
Jesus Christ.
Right, so there should be millions, right?
And interestingly, some of the people they would go after would have, like, ten followers.
Like, there's this tweet that three people must have seen.
We want you to take this down.
It's like, why?
So if you actually just hurt the fifees of the FBI Twitter account, they used to write letters to HQ. Emails to Yol Roth saying, and Yol Roth will be like, yep, just done.
Sorted.
And so it's not technically illegal, probably.
Probably.
But it is weird.
This is unconstitutional.
I mean, there's bound to be an argument.
It would have to go through the courts.
You know, I don't know.
Right.
But it's probably not technically illegal on the face of it.
But it's obviously gross and corrupt and shows that it's anti-American.
And it shows a weird fusion of private business and government agency.
I think there's a word for that, but I can't remember what it is.
I mean, it may be that Jack Dorsey committed perjury when he was testifying in front of Congress.
And lied.
Yeah, and just openly lied and said we don't shadow ban conservatives.
And then Elon Musk just, oh yeah, look, here's the shadow banning code.
Here's the list of people.
Oh, look, it's all conservative shadow banning.
Don't know what to tell you.
So, well done there, Musk, right?
But moving on, we get to December the 15th.
And it got its own Wikipedia page.
Can you scroll down this just to show you the length of the Wikipedia page?
December 15th, suspensions from Twitter.
Oh, for God's sake!
This must be like 5,000 words!
Keep going!
Keep going!
Oh, I know why this is so long.
The people who do Wikipedia moderating are left-wing, and it's an extension of the Democrats' article.
This is the most important thing to them.
Exactly.
Look at the size of the article, right?
And it's people like, like I said, Keith Olbermann, who are banned, right?
Aaron RuPaul, Keith Olbermann.
If you go to the next one, just see this lunatic.
I mean, look at his face, right?
We don't even have to watch any of the video.
Just look at his face.
Like, this is someone who's totally captured by social media, totally captured by Twitter.
And so they've...
Can you play the video?
To be honest, I actually do feel sad for Keith.
I've watched a lot of his videos on that.
Oh, he's pathetic.
You just play it with the sound off.
Hey, I don't know if this got any problem.
Look at the excitement.
This is something deeply important to him.
And it was so important that his dog apparently has a Twitter account that he commandeered.
It's like tweeting under his dog's Twitter account.
It's like, Keith, you were doxing the man in real time, mate.
You've got a family.
Yeah.
Like, this is the most important thing that's happened to him all year.
But anyway, let's move to Taylor Lorenz.
She got banned too.
For doxing.
Could you believe it?
This is just to give you a...
Which doxing was she banned for?
Well, before we get on, let's just pull up these images...
So this is Taylor Lorenzo in 2020 saying, look, I went to a private Swiss boarding school, 90k tuition, blah, blah, blah.
It taught me so much about the underprivileged, which it would.
You go to the next one, then you go for two years and she's like, I never went to her.
So she's a liar, right?
She's just a known public liar.
You know, that's where Kim Jong-un went, right?
Yeah, and didn't Assad go there?
Pretty sure, yeah.
Yeah.
Very underprivileged people.
It's weird how the circles she mixes in.
Anyway, if you go to the next one, John pointed out, wow.
Didn't have that on my 2022 bingo card.
To be honest, I am quite happy to see that everything is healing.
I know.
I know.
Nature is healing.
Why?
Well, I mean, she is responsible for doxing loads of people.
Loads of people.
This is Ariadna Jacob.
I wasn't famous, but I got doxed because I was annoying them.
And of course, she doxed libs of TikTok.
And I don't think this is the end of it.
I just got bored of searching through the list of people she's doxed.
And she was saying, oh, I wasn't.
I wasn't.
So she took to TikTok herself, saying, oh, I wasn't trying to get Libs of TikTok banned.
You were just misgendering people, and that was the policy.
So you were trying to get banned.
That's the point.
There was a ban on Bill of Fence.
Yeah.
And so you trying to highlight that is trying to get banned.
Smile.
Look at the smile.
Yeah.
So she's lying, and she knows she's lying.
But Elon...
I see an old woman go that way.
Yeah, but Elon was like, look, I am a merciful God.
I will put out a poll, Vox Populi, Vox Dei.
Shall we unsuspend the accounts who dox my exact location in real time?
And people are like, you can do it now or you can do it in seven days?
I was on the seven days train.
Give them a week off.
Make them languish in the oubliette for at least a week.
Yeah, well, I mean, this is something that frankly needs to be automated, which is that whatever your suspension, it should be a week or month, whatever, as long as it's a fixed period that's within a human time frame.
Yep.
Whatever, no one's willing to really care.
Yep.
5,000 years in jail.
I mean, even if you get banned from, like, GMOB servers, you don't get 9,000 years.
All except one were unbanned.
Ooh.
Who remained?
Let's go to the next one, John.
Taylor Rents was permanently suspended after Elon Musk said it was temporary.
Hmm.
I wonder, did he have a message from the FBI? I know, but we're writing to let you know that your account has been permanently suspended due to multiple or repeat violations of our rules.
Replies to this email will not be reviewed, as this decision will not be reversed.
Thanks, Twitter.
Like, thanks.
I gotta say, the atmosphere at Twitter.com's headquarters must be just so much more fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, there's justice for everyone that Taino Lorenzo's dog.
Anyway, so then you've got Aaron Rupal, who did come back, and was like, oh, the rules are so vague, you can get banned for anything, which is probably the point to say, oh, welcome to the real world, Neo, because that's what it's been like for us for literally the last 10 years.
You deliberately had...
I mean, this has been the eternal complaint about Silicon Valley.
I've been banned or we've been struck or whatever, and we don't know why because you haven't pointed to a timestamp at a particular rule.
And that's always the way it's been, and so now the Sword of Damocles is above your head as well.
Did I tell you about the black guy who got banned from Facebook?
He made a pancake mix, you know, like all those different black people on boxes of food selling stuff.
That was unacceptable.
So he made his own pancake mix, put himself on the box.
They banned him for racism because of his representation of black people as, I don't know, some kind of inferior people.
What?
He had to appeal it.
Excuse me, it's not racist for me to put my face on a pancake box because I literally made this pancake and what's wrong with you?
But I mean, how vague do the rules have to be that your own face is considered racism?
I mean, I don't know who gets that honour, but presumably just him.
I haven't heard of that.
Anyway, so moving on.
Elon, this was a great series of wins for Elon.
And really, he should have left it there.
He should have just been like, right, that is like, you know, I've scoured the earth, I've banned a bunch of journos, I've let a few back because I'm a magnanimous god.
But I'm keeping Taylor Lorenzoff just because I know it's going to really drive her mental.
But then he decided to carry on and started introducing policies like blocking links to Instagram, Mastodon, other places, but not TikTok, incidentally.
So you can't be...
Was he drunk?
I don't know, that's the thing.
The point of this policy is to make sure that you can't just have an account that is like the Facebook account on Twitter, promoting Facebook on Twitter.
And it's like, okay, but why?
Like, there's a profound weakness in that policy.
I mean, he tweeted, oh, well, it's just common sense from a business perspective.
It's like, it kind of is, but Twitter isn't a standard business, right?
Obviously, Tesco's aren't going to promote Sainsbury's food, but that's not what Twitter is.
Twitter is, as you characterized it, the public square.
And notice how you don't go to Facebook to promote Twitter.
Facebook comes to Twitter to promote them.
You go to Twitter.
This is where everyone is.
It's the center of gravity of the online universe, basically, when it comes to people who think of themselves as important or want to be important, having a voice that other people can hear.
They don't go to Facebook.
They don't go to Mastodon.
They don't go to Gab.
They don't go to Getter.
They don't go anywhere else.
They go to Twitter.
It's also just because you've got all the excitement right now.
Exactly.
But it has been that for a long time.
Right?
And so, you know, these, you know, Twitter don't set up a Getter account, but Getter do set up a Twitter account, that sort of thing.
And so, this seems actually kind of weak, because it's like, you're the point at the bottom of the filter, where everything is rolling down to.
You don't need to ban these things, and actually it makes you look like actually you're not so confident in your position, which is never a good sign.
Don't show weakness.
But Elon tweeted out an apology for this.
He reversed this policy, apparently.
Going forward, there'll be a vote for major policy changes, and my apologies won't happen again.
It's like, I'm not sure.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I appreciate the fact that he can admit his mistake here, but I'm not sure this is actually the wisest thing.
Like, he should be taking the executive action on policy as he wants it, And then if that kicks up a lot of stink from the marginal left-wing brigade online, on Twitter, just do one of these polls that will get the majority of people behind what he wants, just to tell them, look, everyone wants it, shut up.
You don't need to actually do policy by democracy, and it's probably wise that you don't.
Because people will vote for Boaty McBoatface, things like that.
So, you know, you don't need to do that.
Rename Twitter, what to?
Well, and this actually next one is a great example of how he undermines himself using polling on Twitter.
Should I step down as head of Twitter?
I will abide by the results of this poll.
Yeah, this is dumb.
Yeah.
Like, you own it.
Yeah.
I don't get this.
I mean, the poll should have read, should I just arbitrarily ban a few more left-wing verified checkmark Jonas?
I will abide by the results of this poll.
Just completely arbitrarily.
Yeah, just I'll pick some out of a hat.
Why?
Because I can.
Live stream it.
Just that one.
Yeah, exactly.
Right?
Not should I step down as head of Twitter because now they're always going to beat him with this.
I mean, like, he probably, I don't know whether he will or won't.
I mean, he will eventually.
But the point is, he says, the question is not finding a CEO because, of course, there are going to be loads of people who would love to be the CEO of Twitter.
But it's finding one who can keep Twitter alive because, of course, Twitter is losing money.
Now, I don't know what the financial state of Twitter is since he took over and released all its financials.
You know, I don't know how much money they're making from the blue checkmark scheme, the Twitter blue screen, advertisers, various things like that.
We haven't got any further information as far as I'm aware.
But people are like, well, who are you thinking of as a successor?
He's like, there is no successor.
You go to the next one.
He's got, like, no one in mind.
No one wants the job who can actually keep Twitter alive.
There is no successor.
So it's like, right.
So what was this?
You know, this wasn't the best move, in my opinion.
The quartering's just like, well, here's my resume.
Yeah, well, I mean, don't go wrong.
You may as well, you know, you don't ask, you don't get.
But the point is, this shows an inconsistency, a mercurial nature in Elon that actually is not wise, and he should have, in my opinion, after the The grand releasing of the journos from jail.
Just done nothing.
Silence would have been really powerful at that point.
Because the demonstration of power was made.
But I'm just banging.
Ping, ping, ping, ping, ping.
You'll do exactly as I say.
And now I don't need to do anything, because doxing is already verboten on this platform.
The rule will be applied evenly.
And then, great, I'm going off to see what's the World Cup.
Have a great time.
I'll be tweeting about football.
And just left it at that.
And then nothing would have changed.
There would have been no sort of...
Loss of prestige on Elan's part.
He would have just been actually increasing the amount of intimidation his name would have brought around.
But this instead gives them a method to attack him, and it's like there was no need for it.
So you should formulate your policy in private, Elon, and only when you feel that it needs popular justification, appeal to polls, don't make policy by democracy because people...
I mean, think how many bots the left have access to.
How many bots do they have access to?
They'll rig any poll they need to.
So anyway, that's that.
As with that, we'll move on to breaking news.
Argentina.
Officially not white anymore.
It's been done.
I know this has been the position of the people on 4chan for quite some time, but it turns out that also the entire critical race theory left have now shake hands and have agreed that, yeah, Argentina is definitely not white, and the reason is because they won the World Cup.
Argentines officially people of colour.
Indeed.
And we'll just start off by mentioning a contemplation, so you can go and check out about how accurate our stereotypes exist for a reason.
And when it comes to Argentina, uh, yeah, kinda.
Yeah, yeah, a little bit.
This is a great episode.
Screeching about how Argentina is white!
Anyway, but we'll go to this article, because this is the thing that sparked my interest.
This is an archive, before we go any further, but it's an article from the Washington Post.
Why doesn't Argentina have more black players in the World Cup?
Do you know why this is an archive?
Because they changed their name.
Also because I... Do you know why they changed their name?
Because it's a real bad look.
Because I ratioed them on Twitter.
Oh, did you?
Yes.
Oh, good.
I literally clipped a bit out of the article and said if you read your own article, you'd know.
And they had like, you know, twice as many likes as they have in theirs.
And they...
Panicked.
They did, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The thing is, if you read the full article, you find out some more and more revealing takes from the author, which are good fun, and I thought we'd enjoy.
Start off with just the byline being, Argentina is far more diverse than many people realise, but the myth that it is a white nation has persisted.
Not with me.
We're all well aware that Argentina is not a white nation.
Do not worry, folks.
I don't consider any nation that's south of the English Channel to be white, to be honest.
No, there's that too.
Well, there's also one north of the English Channel that's not white, Ireland.
So that's also going to be dealt with.
But for people who don't know, there's quite a meme about this, which has been hovering around.
An old meme about this as well.
Still checks out.
It does, yeah.
I thought we'd go revisit this, just to enjoy a moment.
So if we go to the next one here, we can revisit that.
Argentina is white!
Screams the local Argentinian football fan.
And there's more of that.
There's a lot more of that.
If you go to the next one here, we can see more.
Say hello my white friend to a local Argentinian poster who's posting away with his insistence.
It's so weird that they have to essentially validate 4chan memes.
Why is this the way they think?
Because, I mean, this sort of S-posting is funny and old and almost forgotten.
Yeah, it's classic.
Yeah, there's actually, you can, what is it, on Meme...
So stupid.
Not Meme Insider, what's it called?
That website that logs all the memes.
Know Your Memes.
Know Your Memes, yeah.
They have, like, a little bar that shows the popularity of the meme over time, and it's, like, you know, dead.
And then all of a sudden, it's really spiked for some reason.
The New York Times is like, we need to bring this back.
It's vintage.
Which I mean, to them, thank you.
I do miss good things like this.
And if you're the last one here, I think it's the last example I'm just going to give.
Anyway, long-running joke.
But back to the Washington Post deciding to go full 4chan.
I just want to make it clear as well, we don't care at all what colour people consider Argentina to be.
No, I don't care.
I don't care at all.
Like, the fact that you're talking about this is what's funny to us.
Like, all of a sudden you are, for some reason, deciding.
I mean, there's the whole conversation as to what even is a white country.
What does that concept mean?
But, of course, it just breaks down to, basically, do I love or hate them?
Yes.
Depending on your political persuasion as to whether or not a country is white or not.
And so they're like, oh, I can like Argentina because it's not a white country.
It's like, yeah, okay.
That's also the defence of why diversity totally wins football games.
Oh yeah, good point.
Her name here, so Erica Edwards over here, is the author of the award-winning book, Hiding in Plain Sight, Black Women, The Law, and The Making of White Argentine Republic.
Oh.
Again, sounds like a 4chan post.
It does, actually.
I mean, she's literally a black woman saying Argentina isn't white.
She's also an associate professor at the University of Texas.
Of course she is.
El Paso, right.
But she decides to write here, as fans keep up with Argentina's success in this year's World Cup, a familiar question arises.
Does it?
Why doesn't it?
What?
It's not why I always think when I think of Argentina.
Millions and probably billions of people are watching the World Cup and she's just sat there going, hmm, but are they white?
She's thinking that everyone else watching is like, Yeah.
Bit Italian, you think?
Yeah, that was definitely out for me.
Now, the question is, why doesn't Argentina's team have more black players?
Yes, this is the thing, because in the same article they say, well, Argentina has less than 1% black population.
So, I mean, some people would think that means that maybe it's expected that you would have less black players.
Well, how many players do you have on the team?
11?
Yeah.
So fewer than 1% of the team should be black if we were doing proportional representation.
So if we do 23andMe's on the team...
Well, I mean, I can't speak to that.
We'll talk about that in the final segment, actually.
Oh, God.
Anyway.
But she says, in stark contrast...
It's not my politics.
It's actually Californian politics that's now getting the 23andMe's out.
But anyway...
And this lady...
Who just has to know...
It's weird how we've got back to racial purity testing...
It gets worse than that.
She mentions in here that, of course, other South American countries, such as Brazil, Argentina's soccer team, pales in comparison to them in terms of black representation.
That's because Brazil's like 20%, 25%, something like that, isn't it?
I don't know.
They might mind 100%, but, you know.
Mine too!
Because we go to the Wikipedia page, of course, as you've noted.
Wikipedia doesn't really list black people as a group in Argentina, either.
They list in their census 0.4% Africans, is how they put it.
Which, yeah, I mean, that's not even 1%.
That's not even half a percent.
Less than half a percent.
85% German, though.
Look at that.
Oof.
Hitler and his boys.
Anyway, getting back to the article.
I saw a great meme about this.
It's just this guy saying, yeah, Argentina will win the World Cup, and the camera pans across to the crowd, and it's just a very aged Hitler waving an Argentinian flag.
Yeah.
It's like, ah, it's all right, team.
Yeah.
You can do that on Holy 4 as well.
Anyway, she writes, the observation is not a new one.
In 2014, observers hauled jokes about how even Germany's soccer team had at least one black pair, whereas it appeared that Argentina had none during that year's World Cup final.
And you may remember who won this World Cup final.
It was diversity, right?
Because diversity wins.
That's what I've been told.
I mean, they literally put it on their plane for the German team.
Yeah.
We'll get this up.
That's Andrew Lawrence.
Which, um...
Yeah, yeah.
Did they win, though?
This is the thing.
Did the English team win?
Did the French team win?
I did call this.
I'm going to take the credit here, which is that I did say this is going to happen again.
And it has happened again.
And the cope this time round is, yeah, well, what if Argentina is all black?
Which is not the cope I was expecting.
What if Argentina isn't a white country?
Well, checkmate.
Well, here we go.
Here goes the argument.
She says, Not for me.
No, not for me either.
We're not black, well that's no good enough for rain.
I've got some more questions before we go any further.
Neither are the Irish, mate.
Just spit into this cup for me.
But roughly about 200,000...
This is so stupid!
2022!
4chan memes are now mainstream discourse.
This is just...
Who cares?
But roughly 200,000 African captives disembarked on the shores of Rio de la Plata during Argentina's colonial period.
Oh my god, are they going to complain about miscegenation?
Yes, they are.
Race mixing is bad.
According to this woman.
Says one Washington Post article.
The reason race mixing is bad is because it dilutes the race to the point that it's not pure anymore.
According to this woman.
I'm not kidding, that's where we're going.
What was it?
Spanish, Italian, German immigrants to Argentina were like, God, those black women are sexy.
They were.
We're going to have to marry them.
Ooh la la.
And this woman's just like, yeah, but that's black genocide.
You called it in one.
I haven't read the article, I just skimmed through to get the number to ratio the one.
I wish I'd read it now, because it's genuinely hilarious.
The whole thing is gold.
Anyway, she says at the end of the 18th century, one third of the population was black, which, I'm going to need a fact check on that, but whatever.
She says, indeed, not only is the idea of Argentina as a white nation inaccurate, it speaks to a longer history of black erasure.
Right, so literally black genocide.
Yes.
Through marriage.
At the heart of the country's self-definition.
Right.
So you remember that image earlier of the guy on the train screaming Argentina is white?
That's what she actually imagines Argentina's history is since the founding.
Well, I mean, here we are.
Yeah.
Argentina has several myths that purportedly explain the absence of black Argentines.
There aren't an absence.
There are 150,000 of them.
No, but she's coming into, like, what was that show called?
I can't remember his name now.
The guy from...
I've completely forgotten now.
But there was that show where the guy would come in and he'd, like, try and myth-bust everything.
No, not myth-busters.
Oh, Adam Ruins Everything.
Adam Ruins Everything, yeah.
Adam Ruins Everything, the whole thing.
She's going to tell everyone, no, no, no, all of Argentine was black.
All until now.
At which point the team wasn't, and now it's a problem.
She says another myth argues that it was because of the high death toll of black men caused by the 19th century wars.
Black women in Argentina had no choice but to marry, co-inhabit, and form relationships with European men.
Right, so she's actively against miscegenation.
Indeed.
That's crazy.
Leading to the, quote, disappearance of black people...
Miscegenation, she writes.
Miscegenation.
Miscegenation is black genocide.
Washington Post, 2022.
This is still up as well.
Miscegenation or interracial mixing.
Oh, how awful.
It led to the disappearance of black people.
Over several generations, it is thought to have taken its toll.
Its toll?
It's taken a toll.
Oh, God.
Burn the coal, you pick.
Creating a physically lighter and whiter population.
Oh, God.
I don't know what to say, I suppose.
That is a great framing.
Yeah, she writes that the miscegenation...
I bet Richard Spencer's exactly...
Those Spaniards over there, they found the black ladies attractive, and this is a bad thing because it led to the disappearance of black people, and it's taken quite a toll on the population, she writes.
Black women were mere victims of an oppressive regime.
They dictated every aspect of their lives.
You mean they got married to white guys, right?
I love that, right?
She tells us, like, okay, a lot of black guys went out and died in war, and then these European guys were like, you know, those black ladies are pretty cute, should buy them a drink.
And they have some kids, and she writes, in this telling, black women were mere victims of an oppressive regime of marriage and kids, and...
Which...
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, okay.
That's pure oppression right there.
But more recent studies...
It could have been worse, to be honest.
I don't know what to tell you.
I've got this husband who loves me and wants to have kids with me.
Yeah, but he's white.
Didn't Argentina abolish slavery in the 1850s as well?
Not that early, but quite early, yeah.
Right, okay.
They say in here, but more recent studies have instead revealed that some black women in Argentina had concerted decisions to pass as white, or Arminian, or to obtain...
Amerindian, Amerindian.
Sorry.
Native mix.
Or to obtain the benefits afforded by whiteness for their children and themselves.
So the black women here were also wanting to be white, and that's a problem.
This is the Brazilian grandmothers and their genetic imperialism, isn't it?
Yeah, except big question in the room is, is it forced?
If it's not, then what?
If they willingly wanted to marry white guys, I don't know what I can do about that.
I mean, this lady knows what she's going to do about it, which is form a movement.
Hundreds of years ago.
Presumably with like three letters in the title to stop miscegenation.
Hundreds of years ago, these black women married white guys, and we need to put a stop to that.
She writes, but white Argentine leaders such as, got a bunch of this, Domingo Festuno Samarino, whatever West Falklands.
White.
The ex-president of Argentina from 1868 crafted a different narrative to the erasure of blackness because they equated modernity with whiteness.
Samarinto over here wrote a book, Factuno...
Whatever.
Civilization and Barbarism, 1845, which detailed Argentina's backwardness and what...
Agreed.
Based.
And he and others perceived as what needed to become civilized.
Very true.
He was among those who shared a vision for the nation that associated more strongly with European rather than African or Arminian.
Amerindian.
Amerindian heritage.
But is that because they were looking at what the British were doing all across their empire and saying, maybe we should do some of that as well?
Yeah, she phrases this as if he was writing the book, going like, yeah, so if we're more white, we'll be more civilized, so go and have some babies.
No, he actually was writing about the fact that there used to be a dictatorship and are now a republic.
But also, I can see there, Argentina abolished slavery in 1853.
How could they do such a thing?
Who was leading the charge on that?
Who knows?
Presumably the Africans.
Maybe the African kingdoms.
In many ways, she writes, this was not unique to Argentina.
This whitening process was attempted throughout much of Latin America.
Could you imagine writing this stuff about today?
No.
The whitening of South America is a problem.
She wrote, in Brazil, Uruguayan, Cuba, this also took place, which very much made me...
Peak white country, Brazil, Uruguayan, Cuba.
See, the thing is, because you've also got to dichotomise this with the Global South, you may remember.
For people who missed it, you're missing out on a lot, though.
This is the map of my global south.
I still can't not look at this and laugh.
Japan, Singapore.
Hong Kong.
Taiwan, white.
South Korea.
Welcome to the white race.
South Korea is in the global north.
North Korea is in the global south.
Riddle me that.
I don't know how Russia made it.
No, but...
How did Russia make it to the global north?
Israel's in the global north as well.
Good job, lads.
But not the Falklands, which is...
Not the Falklands.
Deeply hurtful, frankly.
The West Falklands are trying to edge their way in there now.
Literally, the Falklands is populated by nothing but British people.
It's like, yeah, Global South.
Because really, Global South and Global North just means white and non-white, right?
What's going on in Indonesia down there?
What do you mean?
Look, the gap that goes down, like a long plunge to this...
Yeah, obviously.
What's that?
It's a white nation.
Yeah, but what is it?
Singapore.
Oh, right, that's Singapore.
Because it's a successful British colony, including Hong Kong there as well, you'll notice.
And all the ocean that connects it.
Yeah.
Yeah, but the map, like, jumps up to encircle Hong Kong, and then it's like, Macau?
Maybe not.
This is so ridiculous.
And there are a bunch of island territories that are claimed by Australia, and they don't get to be a part of the global north.
No, they don't, and this map as well confirms that Argentina is indeed non-white.
Anyway, getting back to the article, in which she continues to make the case.
Poor old Mexico.
Well, suffer.
What makes Argentina's story so unique in this context, right, however, is that it was successful in its push to build its image as a white country...
I mean, not that successful, but whatever.
I mean, still makes it on the Global South map over there.
But for example, in the 1950s, the political philosopher and diplomat Juan Bautista, whatever, was perhaps best known for his saying, to govern is to populate, promoted white European immigration to the country.
Argentina's president, as well, supported his ideas and incorporated them into the country's first constitution and Amendment 25, saying that the federal government shall foster European immigration.
I mean, a constitution is a European invention.
Yeah, there's that too.
But I mean, also, that is actually the wording of the EU's constitution, but whatever.
That's not a problem.
In fact, the ex-president also remarked towards the end of the 19th century, 20 years hence, presumably this was a campaign manifesto promise, it will be necessary to travel to Brazil to see blacks.
I don't know what it is about like 1800s race politics, but it's always hilarious.
And also...
Or France, I suppose.
Yeah, and also, at the same time, you will find the critical race theorists just cottoning on to be like, yeah, that's a good idea.
Hey, this guy.
I'm voting for him.
It's him.
It's him.
I'm sorry, that's why I had to go through this whole thing.
It reads like a lunatic.
Yeah, preposterous.
As for the nation's black and whatever population who were in Argentina before this mass European immigration...
Oh, really?
I'll rely on to use that phrase.
Oh, good point!
Mass European immigration.
Oh, it's the great replacement!
Oh, she's a conspiracy theorist.
Mass migration from Europe is destroying our pure black population of Argentina.
And Amerindian population.
Right, okay, so now we're on...
Right, right, right.
Good point.
She's making a great point about that mass migration.
I don't know.
It's racial genocide.
I disavow all of this, personally.
Many begin to strategically identify as white.
Oh.
Taxically.
Yeah, but this is going the other way.
This is what Rachel Dolezal's doing.
She's strategically identifying as black in order to get the benefits of it.
She's not the only one.
I mean, how many have there been now?
Oh, plenty.
I mean, we also have plenty of MPs in the UK who are clearly not black, but keep insisting, I am a black candidate.
Oh, like the Liverpool mayor?
Yes, who I think is actually being kicked out now for corruption.
Fact check me on that one, but I think she's stepping down because of all that.
But either way, yeah.
Strategically identifying as white became a thing.
It probably did in like 1900.
Yeah, yeah.
Argentina.
Just today.
Yeah.
In real time.
Or if they could pass or settle into a more ambiguous racial and ethnic category.
Maybe like marrying a white man.
Yeah, which again, the same thing is happening today in the West, which is that people are continuously trying to argue, oh no, no, I'm not white.
I mean, do you remember that Mary Earl de Blight?
I think it was in New York or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
It was like, aren't you a white man?
And he goes, well, I am Italian.
LAUGHTER Yeah, the more ambiguous racial category.
I'm Italian.
That explains a lot.
The exact same thing is happening.
These categories included...
I kind of feel dirty reading this.
I'm not going to pronounce it right, but that's not why I feel dirty.
The categories included the ambiguous groups here.
Carrillo, which is...
Pre-immigrant background, often affiliated with Spanish and Amerindian ancestry.
Moroncho, tan coloured.
Pardo, brown coloured.
And Trigudo, wheat coloured.
Okay, so that describes everyone in Europe, south of Denmark.
But also, I don't know about you, but I never thought you'd be allowed to talk like this.
But apparently in Argentina they have wheat-coloured people, tan-coloured people, brown-coloured people, and pre-immigrant people.
Isn't wheat colour just normal European skin colour?
I have no idea.
White skin is not actually white.
If we're actually going to be like the pipette dropper on Photoshop, then okay, well...
Again, this isn't my wheelhouse, but this lady's like, well, I've got a chart.
LAUGHTER I've got a colour swatch, in fact.
Which I've listed.
Wheat.
Eggshell.
So far.
Well, these labels ultimately cast them as others.
The only white people are those people north of Hadrian's Wall.
Right, okay.
Eggshell white.
Right, okay, great.
I mean, they're almost translucent in Iceland.
So she writes, while these labels ultimately cast them as others, they have also helped disassociate them from blackness at a time where there was a state imperative to not be black.
Which is weird, because it was a black country, surely.
This history makes it clear that whilst Argentinian soccer team may not include people of African descent, or perhaps that people would view as black, it is not a white team either.
I agree.
That's her big brain conclusion, which is she's like, well, they're sort of wheat-coloured, am I right?
Honestly, if you speak Spanish, you're not white.
No, no, I think that is part of the Global South, and we'll move the map adjustingly.
I also just wanted to note, they did rename the article after you ratioed them successfully.
Why doesn't Argentina have more black players in the World Cup?
That's a much more reasonable question, because it's easily answered, because there are hardly any black people in Argentina.
I do want to enjoy myself, though, because I did call it, which is that diversity wouldn't win, that the groups harping on about how diverse they are would lose, because they spend their time harping on about diversity instead of learning how to pass the ball.
Instead of kicking the ball, yeah.
Yeah, and I just want to bring back up some oldies but goalies.
Go on.
You remember this?
You remember this during the tournament?
The English team, three black players scored.
So this lady had to come out.
Sorry, Anthony over here had to come out and be like, Black Excellence with pictures of them.
I've got a million like-a-roonies.
This was a narrative that blew up.
Next image, please.
Now what?
I mean, presumably also black excellence, because Argentina isn't white, but...
I mean, why not?
How could you argue the case?
Otherwise, wheat excellence?
I don't know.
I don't know which character he falls into over there, but...
Maybe it's just the shading on that picture or something, but this, you know, Mediterranean...
Yeah.
Excellence, maybe.
Yeah, there's also...
He said it was messy, but that's got to be a Mediterranean name.
That's a white name.
Anyway, so Argentino is also having some fun with this.
Lionel Smith.
Did see this meme being shared a lot from Argentinians, which...
It's got to hurt.
Yeah, this was like...
Was it Germany who got crushed by Japan?
There was that too.
Yeah, and it's like, oof, that mono team of Japan.
The English team got destroyed, but then again, France is more diverse than England, so the narrative worked until it didn't.
Which is, there you have it.
They're all still trying to push this ideology as well.
It hasn't stopped.
If you go to the next one here, we see some Twitter accounts who are like, well, without immigration, so many teams this year would not be possible without welcoming diversity.
You know what's weird, right?
If they'd never mentioned the word diversity, and they just had presented a team where it's like, you know, seven white guys, three black guys, I would assume those three black guys were just brilliant.
Yeah, no one would care.
No, no, it's not even that no one would care.
I wouldn't even think, like, is he from Cameroon?
Because I just, my mind...
But I wouldn't think, why is he there?
I think, oh, he must be great at football.
Because why else would he be on the World Cup team?
You know, so he must be an immigrant to England, you know, maybe the Windrush generation or something like that.
Some guy from Nigeria who he picked up, paid a lot of money, he was fantastic.
Must be brilliant at football, but now I think, oh no, Gareth Southgate...
I'm not going to say anything rude, but saw a black person and was like, yeah, you.
That's what I'm thinking, because I think that Gareth Southgate is not trustworthy.
No.
There's also the fact that they're doing this with the women as well.
I thought we just enjoyed this clip, which is hilarious, in which the leader of the England female team was asked a question, and you could see the panic.
Oh, yeah!
Let's play this.
Do we have a diversity problem in English football?
Well, that's a good question.
I would love to see more black players in the team.
I think that's what you're pointing out.
She looks like she's in front of a firing squad.
Yeah, I love how she's not even anything nuanced about diversity.
She just goes, more blacks?
Don't shoot!
How did Gareth Southgate do it?
Stupid.
Anyway, the last thing...
Didn't the England women's team win?
They did, when they were all white, and that's got to be changed.
Yeah.
Anyway, the last thing here is just the Guardian also pointing out that, well, we need more of this, and the thing is, well...
Oh, real England does it?
Right, okay.
Yeah, just don't tag your ideology to the success of a football game.
I think that's probably the lesson that should have been learned by now.
It's been three football games now in which the non-diverse team has won and destroyed the diverse teams and those who won't shut up about diversity.
And maybe it's time to stop.
And maybe it's also time to stop with the colour swatches, Washington Post.
Maybe talking about the merit of them as players would be a return to tradition.
Or I suppose we could decide that Argentina is just not white, which is also just an option on the table, which I'm going to take.
Very sorry, Argentinian West Falklanders, but, El, let's get to the next segment.
I enjoyed that.
It's just fun.
Honestly, I'm going to cut so many people out of the white race.
I'm not in the white race.
I'm way too mudblood to be in the white race.
Are the Danish in the white race?
Yeah, the Danish are white.
But this sort of sounds funny.
Yeah, they sound funny, but they're a part of the white race.
The southern French are definitely not.
Anyone south of Paris, definitely not.
Is Brittany?
Because that's Celtic.
No, no, that's white.
Hang on, hang on.
It depends on how we're defining white, I suppose.
So, I mean, is Cornwall white?
Good question.
Is Wales white?
I'll break out my 23andMe graphs and we'll find out.
Anyway, let's talk about reparations, because come on, this is just on the cards.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
We need to pay reparations.
The debate is over.
There's no debate to be had.
Reparations are what California is doing, probably.
They haven't actually decided yet.
But the thing is, there's so much emotion that they're not going to put all this effort in and not do reparations.
They've committed.
And so, as you discovered with Calvin and Robinson, debate is over.
Debate is dead.
There's nothing to debate.
This was really good.
If you want to go to support us, go to losis.com, sign up, watch Calvin versus the NPCs, because literally, that's what's happening in California.
The NPCs have all been programmed.
Diversity is our strength.
Black Lives Matter.
Reparations now.
And it's like, okay, well, let's talk about the reparations then.
So in 2020, California, the California Reparations Task Force, it's a task force, this is urgent, right?
This is like, you know, the Russians are invading Ukraine, we need a task force.
They've got their own patches.
They probably do.
Oh God, what's the patch?
I dread to think.
It's going to be a racist.
Deating off a white guy or something.
It's a non-regulatory state agency in California established by the California Assembly Bill 3121 in 2020, so Gavin Newsom signed this in, to study and develop reparation proposals for African Americans, especially those for the descendants of persons enslaved in the United States.
Hang on, what do you mean especially?
Don't you mean only?
You would think.
But, no.
It's for blacks, Callum.
Even slavers.
I am a fresh immigrant from Nigeria.
And I deserve a refund.
The task force is designed to recommend ways to educate the kids.
You took my merchandise from me.
Well, I mean, there is an argument from the Nigerians and the Ghanans that actually you ruined our economies.
What?
The slaves?
The British.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm going to go a level further here.
Oh, okay.
Right, hang on.
No, the slaves ruined the Nigerians' economy because the Nigerians went out and got reliant on the slave trade.
So technically, these guys in America who are the descendants owe the Nigerians money.
Carrying on.
The task force is designed to recommend...
We'll see.
The task force is designed to recommend ways to educate the California public of the task force finding proposed remedies.
Five members have been appointed by the governor, two members are appointed by the president pro tempore of the senate, and two members by the speaker of the assembly.
The members are, I'm just going to give their racial demographics, because Wikipedia does, eight of them are African American and the ninth is Japanese American.
Uh, okay.
Possibly something to do with concentration camps in World War II? I kind of feel like you've got those guys, and then you've got the Japanese guy sat there, who's like, my dad was in a concentration camp, how about you?
And you're like, well, I don't know exactly.
But...
I did a 23andMe and it turns out I'm descended directly from George Washington.
And then there's one guy on the table who's just like, well, I'm Jewish, an African-American, so...
But the point is, why appoint judges in their own cause?
You know, it's like, okay, are these people invested in the subject?
Can they be relied on being partial?
Well, it's nothing about impartiality, obviously.
California is the first state to establish a body, study the long history of terror and oppression against African-Americans and recommend reparations.
Germany made payments to Holocaust survivors.
Yep.
Basically the same thing.
Not the same.
That's because it was within living memory.
And those people...
Were alive.
Holocaust survivor...
Or not.
Their family would have their estate given to them.
Yep.
Or, you know, any of the things that make a reparation possible.
A person who's had something bad done to them is having it restored after the fact.
The United States made payments to Americans who were interned during World War II for being Japanese.
Again, an identifiable victim who was 100% of the victim.
A person with the event.
And a cash amount we can give to them in compensation to them.
For the things that were taken from them.
The task force met in 2021.
They received testimony about segregation, redlining, voter district...
What?
Redlining, voter restrictions, and other forms of discrimination in 2022.
I thought it was slavery.
What are you talking about?
We're not even doing slavery.
Descendants of persons enslaved, and suddenly we're on redlining, are we?
Descendants of those who were victims of redlining.
And other forms of discrimination.
But they were discussing whether it was appropriate to pay all African Americans in California, or only those whose ancestors were enslaved.
Why is that a debate?
I don't...
Great question!
I mean, even in the Calvin Robertson debate, they at least agreed there should be those who were victims of slavery, their descendants, not random guy from Equatorial Guinea.
Yeah.
What?
I want to hear the arguments, frankly.
Well, I would love to as well.
Is it just like a huge, like, knobby group of Nigerians who are just wanting money?
I mean, that would be good thinking, big brain thinking on the Nigerians part.
But the report is expected next year, so we'll be able to read the full report next year, which I am looking forward to.
I'm going to go through this.
This is going to be great fun.
Attendees, 15 Nigerian princes.
LAUGHTER The committee was presented with calculations for certain scenarios that include figures amounting to hundreds of thousands of dollars in reparations for each California resident who can prove they are a descendant of an enslaved person.
So what I'm saying is, if you're black, you may want to move to California for at least a year, because they're going to give you hundreds of thousands of dollars for being black.
That's a pretty good deal.
Yeah, I'd take it.
If I thought...
I mean, I literally am descended from slaves, actually, so if I thought that the Californians would give me money...
So if the Argentinians are also watching...
So, let's talk about the history of slavery in California.
Is there?
No.
California was the place where slaves went to be freed.
I'm pretty sure after the Mexican-American War, how long had California even been in there before the Civil War?
Not very much.
California was about, what, 25 years old?
And miles away.
In 1849, the first California Constitution Convention was held, in which they did not include slavery in the Constitution.
And many freed and slave people of African ancestry were part of the California Gold Rush, and many were able to buy their freedom with the gold that they found.
So California is where slaves went to find their liberty.
And so the Californians now are like, well, we need reparations.
For what?
For not being a slave state and for helping liberate thousands of slaves.
Well, I mean, it was a mistake, so...
That's a joke.
That's a joke.
I mean, from the Democrats' point of view, I guess it was.
Yeah, I mean, it is the Democrats in charge now.
It's the Democrats in charge, and they're like, well...
Oh, God, actually, no, that works now.
Like, my joke makes sense.
You've got the Dems back in charge, you're like, well, we need to make up for grievances.
They just haven't told you which grievances.
Yeah, so it's just really weird how, like...
Again, one of the last places in the United States...
That only just came into existence, you know, decades before the end of slavery entirely in the United States, in which Northerners were the ones that dominated the Assemblies.
Northern immigrants were like, no, I'm in slavery.
And the Southerners were like, oh.
The Southern Democrats literally were like, darn.
Like, that's literally how it went, right?
You should make a history documentary.
I should.
And now the Californians are like, right, we need to lash ourselves, lads.
We need to pay for that slavery that we didn't have.
But anyway, the New York Times is on it, of course.
Of course the New York Times is on it.
Oh, God.
Are they taking this seriously?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
This is very serious, right?
In the two years since nationwide social justice protests followed the murder of George Floyd, of Yeah, okay, sorry.
Noted slave George Floyd.
I had actually completely forgotten about him.
California has undertaken the nation's most sweeping effort yet to explore some of the concrete restitution to black citizens to address enduring economic effects of slavery and racism.
What enduring economic effects of slavery does California possibly have?
Well, the death of George Floyd in California.
That wasn't in California.
Well, Carl Rittenhouse shot him in California.
He was in Minnesota.
I mean, just make up anything at this point.
Why not?
I mean, if you're going to try and argue that every random black guy, even if he has no connection to the history of slavery, you know, he might even be a slave that deserves money, hundreds of thousands of dollars as well.
Yeah, so this nine member of Reparations Task Force spent months travelling across California to learn about the generational effects of racist policies.
I thought we were talking about slavery.
Okay.
The group, formed by legislation from Newsom, is scheduled to report next year, which will be exciting.
The task force has identified five areas.
You thought one, being a slave, right?
That was the thing you were talking about.
No.
Housing discrimination, mass incarceration, unjust property seizures, devaluation of black businesses and healthcare.
What?
Okay, because slavery, okay.
Discrimination and housing, that happened.
I mean, I guess unjust property seizure characterises slavery.
I suppose.
Mass incarceration.
Being in jail for crime.
Sorry about that.
Devaluation of black businesses?
As in, I was going to sell my business, but the guy wasn't prepared to give me the price I wanted?
What?
Well, it's because I was black.
Obviously.
Even though he was black too.
Now I need reparations for that?
Healthcare?
I just don't know.
I mean, they're not even trying.
So, as an example, from 1933 to 1977, when it comes to housing discrimination, the task course estimates compensation of around $569 billion.
We're way off the reservation when it comes to slavery, though.
This is not about slavery in any way, shape, or form.
I mean, why not just throw in George Floyd?
I mean, for the grief caused by George Floyd's death to all black Americans.
Why not?
You know, that's the sixth area.
Why not indeed?
Anyway, they're taking suggestions, right?
So the task force must determine when each harm began and ended.
Well, I would suggest the harm for slavery ended around 1870.
No.
I think about 4,022.
So, for example, the group could choose to limit cash compensation to people incarcerated between 1970, when more people start being imprisoned for drug-related crimes, to the present.
Or they could choose to compensate everyone who ever lived in an over-policed black neighbourhood, even if they were not themselves arrested.
Live in a black neighbourhood, you're suffering.
What?
Here's $200,000!
I think my joke might have been real.
It's preposterous.
Like, you've got these Dixiecrats turning up being like, I'm so sorry you live in a black neighbourhood.
Here's a bunch of money.
It's a real crime, the things that are done to you.
But literally, at this point, they're just like, yeah, oh god, he's black, quick, give him some money.
I'm so sorry.
This is where they're at.
You know those scenes in our movies where you get a coffee and you open it up and then someone just throws some change in it?
She's like, asshole!
Earlier this year, the committee made the controversial decision to limit reparations to descendants of black people in the United States.
Why limit it there?
Why not all black people?
I moved to the United States in 1990 from Uganda.
Where are my reparations?
It's like, sorry, it's only for the black people in the United States.
Well, that's not controversial.
That's common sense.
There's no controversy there, right?
So either is free or enslaved people.
Max Fennell, a 35-year-old coffee company owner, said every person should get $350,000 in compensation, not $223,000, to close the racial wealth gap and black-owned businesses should receive $250,000, which would help them flourish.
I mean, I guess it would.
Remember those COVID checks?
Yeah.
Maybe setting the precedent where the government just gives people money, just straight up, is a bad idea?
Yep.
A real bad idea for the mental states of how people think about politics?
No, just give us $350,000 each.
Well, I want to know why Max is such a racist who's in favour of slavery.
$350,000, that's not enough.
500,000.
No, what about a million?
I mean, how much?
Hang on, hang on.
Why have you chosen 350,000, Max?
Well, those ladies who run George Floyd's Theft Incorporated, they got like 80 billion each.
Well, 80 million, sorry.
In which case, that's the average standard for a black person.
They did say that they had done this for purposes of restoration and restorative justice.
George Floyd's soul was holding open that portal.
Remember that?
But it's a debt that we're owed.
We worked for free.
Royal we there.
We worked for free.
What, in your coffee company?
No, I worked on the plant.
No, you didn't.
You didn't do anything.
But anyway, so the question is, okay, well, who's going to get this, right?
I've been picking coffee all my life.
It's like, no, you haven't.
So who's going to get this?
Because it turns out that a lot of whites are actually not white.
You can get to the next one, John.
Because they were like, well, if we test your DNA, it turns out America is a very mixed-race country, obviously.
And so those people with white skin, much like myself, in fact, can DNA test and find out, actually, you've got black, therefore, slave ancestry in your genetics.
So, are you not?
So you've got a little while just to re-register your house in California.
I could, yeah, exactly.
I could buy a cheapo slum in California, register as someone who lives there, pay some tax for a few months, get $350,000.
Everyone's looking for a roommate on the books.
All I'm saying is I think I might need, don't I need like one patron or something like that?
I need someone to recommend me.
I think if you rent a room from someone, for like a dollar a month, it's just on paper.
Yeah, exactly.
And so they were crowing about this.
They're like, ha ha ha, you think you're white, but actually you're black, ha ha!
Got you!
That's not a bad thing, is it?
Why are you laughing?
That's what this article is.
They consider themselves white, but no you're not.
What's going on in the Washington Post?
This is not the first time, is it?
But then, they also are like, aha, we've also got the white supremacists who are also not white.
Can you go to the next one, John?
Sorry, go back.
Sorry, go back.
Just see, like, story number three, racist message found at the Super Bowl.
Anyway, haha, you're black.
Let's go to the next one.
If you scroll down, just easy to headline, right?
Again, Well, they're DNA. So right.
Okay, California.
So now, you're going to DNA test people, find they've got a lineage to slavery, and all of these white supremacists, you're like, yeah, here's your $350,000, lads.
I'm sure that's got to be a skit.
Like, every member of the clan...
I'm sure Dave Chappelle has already made that skit.
Yeah, like, every member of the clan is, like, 1 16th black or something.
And then they all get sent a check.
Sorry for slavery.
LAUGHTER Anyway, moving on.
MarketWatch are like, why is there a wealth gap?
Why?
I have no idea.
MarketWatch.
This reparations tally could come up to $475,000 per person through their estimates.
Jesus Christ.
I mean, is the US dollar going to be worth anything?
No.
It's not worth anything now.
But the point is, by the end of this, you're right, it will be worth nothing.
Christ.
Hang on.
More people at the task force were like, you know what, $350,000 isn't enough.
Go to the next one.
Speaking at the meeting of the task force to study and develop reparation proposals for African Americans at Oakland City Hall, Dion Jenkins argued that every black Californian should receive a payment of around $800,000.
So...
We're just pulling these numbers out of the air.
Why only $800,000?
Why not a million?
Why not a million, eh?
Why?
I mean, we're in billions and billions and billions at this point.
Monopoly money territory.
Because this reflects average home prices in the state.
Either they're going to comply or it's going to be serious backlash, said Jenkins.
Oh.
Oh.
Give us $800,000 or there'll be serious backlash.
Yeah.
Nice state you had here.
This sounds very much like a shakedown, doesn't it?
I mean, we're up to half a trillion now.
Just to let you know.
It doesn't matter.
There's going to be a backlash.
Well, you know, California's finances are doing so good.
I'm sure they've got this money sitting around.
It's not like they're on a huge negative or anything every single year.
Birdie on bankruptcy.
But yeah, so he and other activists were complaining that $223,000 is just not enough.
What they want is money for, quote, defense, money, land grants, four elements of every society, every nation, a defensive structure, economy, land, and having access to that economy.
You have all that?
Well, no, because that's American.
What they appear to want is to set up some sort of Liberia, California.
Well, we do have that.
It's called Liberia.
Yes, but they want it in California.
Okay.
Where they have defense, as in their own armed forces.
Do you want to set up a black nation, like a reservation, in California, and it's got its own defense policy, money policy, land grants?
Yeah, I think you might be a lunatic.
The debate continued on Thursday when the Reverend Tony Pierce of the Black Wall Street Project shouted at the podium that 230,000 is not enough!
I mean, probably only afford one or two tanks with $230,000.
These people would take $100.
If you stood there and they'd think, how about $100?
They'll take it and walk out.
Well, they think they're going to get $800,000.
They're just trying to grift.
Yeah, if this isn't obviously a grift, then nothing is.
And they've thought about this, right?
The reparation should be tax-free.
So the IRS won't come after us.
And I'm pleading and I'm asking that when we make the decision of lineage, we save those who have been in California.
Honestly, if you were going to do it, you'd have to make them tax-free.
Of course you would.
Otherwise, another 20 years, we were oppressed by the IRS. There are...
I mean, I was going to call them skeptics, but I think the appropriate word is just racist.
Who don't agree?
Now, I just want to put myself in the category of anti-racist.
I think 800,000 just isn't enough, and I think it should be every black person, not descendant slaves.
And I think that California should probably pay something between the realm of, I don't know, 5 million per black person?
I think that's probably it.
Have you got a shopping list?
Maybe I do.
Maybe I do.
But the point is, you get some racists, like actor Faison Love, who is like, no.
Now, if you want to scroll down to a picture of Faison Love...
He's a white supremacist.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can see it.
Average Kanye West fan.
I don't know if he knows Kanye West.
He probably doesn't.
But he lashed out at the notion that black people in California will be given $223,000 in reparations, saying the money will only be used to purchase luxury cars.
On one hand, you can call him a cynical realist.
On the other hand, you can call him a racist.
He said, F that, that's another trick, man, because that money's gonna go right back to Cadillac, right back to Mercedes-Benz.
Is he wrong?
I think I... I don't know if it's him, but I saw a guy who looks especially like him talking about this.
He was mentioning about the fact, like, Black America has so much money.
Like, it's not...
They spend loads.
Yeah, but they spend it hugely different to white America.
And he just gave the statistics on, like, how much is spent on liquor per person, how much is spent on Mercedes-Benz's, how much is spent on Nike shoes.
And the point, obviously, being that in Black America, these are status symbols.
And that's what you're wasting that money on instead of building anything that builds society.
Yes.
And if you give them the money...
Money is a form of liquid.
You can't just hold it in your hands.
Property, however, if they were saying, look, every black person should be given a free house that they own, I'd be like, okay, well that makes more sense.
Still going to fail, but...
Yeah, I mean, I'm not optimistic, but it makes more sense, and it gives them a reason to be invested in their local community, as in, this is my house, I'm going to take it.
You know, take care of it.
Blah, blah, blah.
But no, Fies on Love is completely correct.
And this...
I mean, he literally says here, right?
He's like, look, there are alternatives to monetary reparations as in making black people tax-exempt.
That's still...
Okay.
That's actually not a terrible incentive.
Because for tax exemption to mean anything, you've got to get a job, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
Anything that gets rid of taxes, I'm kind of for, you know?
I'm not.
I feel a bit like I shouldn't be discriminating against in the tax code.
Sure, but then we've got an argument to get rid of our taxes.
Hey, they don't have to pay taxes.
Yes, but they're black.
Yeah, but I'd get out of taxes.
I think, yeah.
Our taxes would go up.
Well, no, yours, because you're black, so...
Yeah, exactly.
But the point is, at least there's an incentive there.
So look, you can work hard, you don't get taxed.
And in fact, it could be a useful study in how good tax breaks actually are, right?
Because if the black community are like, yeah, I can actually do all this, and then they start really succeeding, it's like...
We're all being burdened with tax, you gits!
You know?
Like, we want that too!
So, there are other things that make sense.
No.
Black people will just start running all the companies.
That's how it'll work.
That's a good idea.
And there we go.
Exactly, but then we pay a lower tax because, you know, he owns the company, I just work for him.
Exactly, then everyone's taxes just start.
And eventually we get back to that pre-Civil War tax code.
So, anyway, and the thing is...
He is right about just giving them loads of money.
He is totally right about this.
Give them property, don't give them loads of money, because there are so many examples of whenever anyone comes into a massive wadge of cash, it destroys their life.
Ruins them completely.
Because it turns out that to be rich and to know how to handle money requires experience.
Otherwise you get lots of people coming to you saying, give me money.
I mean, loads of these people committed suicide.
Yeah.
It destroys your relationships, destroys everything you think you know.
And you end up bankrupt at the end of it.
And he's completely right.
The money will just end up flushing into BMW and all these other rich car companies.
The black community will have no ability to pay the maintenance on these expensive cars.
They'll end up losing them, and they'll have less than what they started with.
Do you know the story of the English binman, who won like 150 million in the lottery?
No, but that's going to be one of many.
Exactly.
Same thing.
He ended up as a binman within two years.
Yeah.
It's kind of a cruel thing to suggest, actually.
But this is just the way of the world, and so yeah, good luck.
Move to California, I suppose.
God, the one reason to move to California is just to scam money out of the state.
Yeah.
But isn't it weird how until the left, like, start, like, you know, until the left bring it up, we never have to talk about race.
And they're the only people who want to talk about this.
Yeah.
I mean, who writes a whole segment about, sorry, a whole article talking about miscegenation and why it needs to stop because it's replacing the migration.
Yeah, I'm just like, well, I mean, it's literally them unfortunate.
Yeah.
Let's go to the video comments.
So you, you are not your body.
No.
What are you?
I believe that I'm a soul with a body.
This abortionist acknowledging the soul is distinct from the body matches Philip K Dick's short story, The Pre-Persons.
Presumably, the lady would say there's a moment that the soul attaches to the body or the body expresses the soul.
Logically, that would mean abortion would be legal right up to that point.
The Pre-Persons predicts that any test for the soul would be purely arbitrary and could be falsified at any time.
I would love to hear what her test would be and at what age it would set when abortion becomes a murder to her.
Bad questions?
One thing that I find remarkable is she thinks that, right, the body is merely a container for the soul.
It's like, okay, but the fetuses surely must have a soul then.
Why don't they have souls?
Like, in this theology.
Like, okay, but your body is a container for a soul.
Okay, well that's one way of looking at it.
But also the fetus is a body that must contain a soul?
And you're like, yeah, so...
That seems unkind.
Seems a bit like she's happy about killing.
A Gentleman's Observations of Ohio, Chapter 1, Arrival.
Even at their most stern, i.e.
airport security, the people there were friendly and helpful, definitely more so than British airport staff, as they showed me exactly where to take my luggage and gave me directions without me needing to ask.
The size of alcohol servings was spectacular, and a few people were even into watching the World Cup, which was a nice surprise.
The only downside was having to submit my info to the CDC for some reason and taking a COVID test which made me bleed for the rest of the day.
This poster at the airport really seemed a bit weird, but, oh well, small things, I guess.
This is why I'm not going to America until this nonsense is over.
I still can't believe it's going on, frankly.
Yeah, it's wild.
Like, I... Maybe it's just because in the English world, like in Britain, it's dead.
It's been dead for years now.
Yeah, it literally is.
No one mentions COVID, everyone just gets on with their lives.
And the Americans are like, do this test.
But have you done your test yet?
Go away, you freak!
I wonder if it's going to become a cultural difference.
Like, just for the rest of time, like, the new world will still do these things in North America, whereas...
Maybe.
Like, the old world just has all stopped caring.
Maybe.
I mean, I wouldn't rule it out.
I mean, I wonder what things are like in New Zealand.
They're probably still...
I bet it's still on TV every day.
You're probably right.
New Zealanders let us know.
But otherwise, keep up the updates from Ohio.
Sounds good.
Oh, she's not going to take your box.
*laughs* - You know that.
Maybe, yeah.
You dick.
Love that.
Let's go to the next one.
Alright, I didn't know when you guys were taking off for Christmas, so, uh, just thought I'd send this early.
Oh boy.
We wish you a Merry Christmas, we wish you a Merry Christmas, we wish you a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year.
That was very good.
Merry Christmas, Slotish Eaters.
Hope you have a good one.
Thanks.
Merry Christmas.
We'll be broadcasting over Christmas, apart from on Boxing Day, as Harry...
Oh, there will still be something on Boxing Day.
Okay.
Harry wanted Boxing Day off, and I was like, aww.
He was like, please sir, can I have Boxing Day off?
And I was like, oh, I can't do it.
I can't be Scrooge.
I can't make him, no, get back in the content minds.
So, yeah.
But apparently we're still broadcasting.
Apparently they've got it all sorted, so I don't know.
I don't run this place.
What do you do?
Oh, I'm in it, am I? I did see, there was a comment earlier when we were talking about the miscegenation article.
Some guy was like, when's the premium podcast when you're going to sit around and decide who's white and who's not?
To be honest, it would be pretty funny if we just get a McDonald's...
Yeah, we need a criteria.
A little map of the world and some McDonald's crayons and we just sort of have some fun.
Who gets to be in the Global South?
I think certain parts of England are definitely in the Global South.
London's part of the Global South.
Yeah, that's for sure.
Cornwall?
Birmingham?
Manchester?
Liverpool?
Luton?
Leicester?
I think everything around Liverpool is sort of...
Yeah, Liverpool's Irish, obviously.
Always been part of the Global South.
Anyway, not a bad idea.
Through the day says, rejoice, the banished man returneth.
And Colin says, the beard returns.
People are happy that you're back.
I haven't had time to actually groom myself, so I do feel a bit like a tramp, to be honest.
M says, perhaps their free speech is like their democracy.
It's only good if it's, well, theirs.
That's exactly what it is.
It's not even perhaps.
That's exactly what it is.
Radcheck was right, says, I cannot think of worse optics for these journalists' careers, complaining about the platform becoming safer, and removing people who have broadcast information that directly leads to the people jumping on the cars threatening child safety.
I'll dox your toddlers.
That's right, I'm a journalist.
Yeah, it is weird hill to die on, isn't it?
It's like, what, I can't dox the guy who owns this platform so people can go and harass his son?
That's just off.
That's just wrong.
Like, there's such a weird hill to die on.
I mean, there were people who tried to defend the idea of, like, the mobs being able to gather to kill the corn dealers, but it's just a bad argument.
Like, I should be allowed to organise death.
Yeah, it's just, like, look, if we can't publicly harass you, then we can't use this platform, says Taylor Lorenz.
Yeah, that's a revealing statement.
Yeah, it is.
It's just so...
Why is this the hill you're going to die on?
And a bunch of them are like, yeah, well, I'm going to share your docs.
Bam, Elon Musk.
It's like...
Well, they literally don't have a job without it.
Yeah, but what was the point in that?
Like, A, you know, you knew he was going to because he was like, look, the rules will be applied fairly.
And is doxing Elon Musk really the hell...
I mean, there's a subreddit with apparently 50,000 people in it now that's diverted to tracking Elon Musk's plane.
It's like, why?
I don't join a subreddit diverted to tracking Bill Gates' plane.
I hate Bill Gates.
What the hell's wrong with you people?
But also, who cares?
Unless it's going somewhere interesting, I just...
It just seems like a crap hobby, frankly.
Well, unless, you know, there's some progressive jihadists trying to kill Musk.
Anyway, SH Silver says, Yeah, we talked about this a few months ago, because he's been saying this for a while.
It's just that he, I think he's approaching it the wrong way.
Lord Nerevar says, Yeah, Keith Olbermann's just...
Like you said, I feel kind of bad for him.
It's like...
What is he, 55?
60?
But this is really the way your life led.
Migjen says, it's honestly so strange to see the pendulum swimming the other way.
I was beginning to think these people would be constantly censoring oppression for all time.
Happy to see things changing.
Well, they're only changing on Twitter, remember?
Like, all of the other platforms are still controlled by these lunatics.
Just that Twitter is the most imminent...
But it's interesting how much of an effect it's having, because you can clearly see the rest of them.
They're still controlled by leftists, but they're scared.
Yes.
They're definitely on watch.
Good.
This is how we've been, for this whole time.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's like, you know, Musk doesn't own your company at Facebook, and yet everyone at Facebook is sort of panicking, as if their entire world is about to end.
It's good, isn't it?
It is.
Rick says...
Sorry, I've got a really sore throat for anyone.
I've had it.
No, no, it's fine.
It's just really annoying.
Rick says, it should be mentioned that it wasn't long since Elon Musk tried to see how many bots were left on Twitter and tried to make them come out of the woodwork.
I'm not saying he tried to set up a situation where the poll was going to make the last of the bots appear, but if he did, this is probably what it would look like.
That's a great point, actually, that I hadn't considered.
He's been trying to root out the bots for ages.
And, I mean, he's been doing this, you know, the democracy via Twitter, and he has been sticking to what the polls have showed him.
So it's like, I'll resign.
Yeah, big important poll.
Yeah, I'll get the bots.
Henry says, are Argentinians white?
Well, one of their players is called McAllister, so I'm waiting for Scotland to claim they won the World Cup.
This is like Ireland saying, yes, he's an Irish president.
What I will say is my loathing for their football team is so strong, I was supporting the French in the final yesterday.
I mean, I don't like football, but who do I hate more, France or Argentina?
I mean...
I don't know.
That's tough.
Yeah.
That's really tough.
Like, France legacy is a tradition of hating France, but Argentinian most recent, you know?
Plus, they won't shut up about it still.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, at least the French sort of are going, yeah, you have a Channel Islands, whatever.
Good point.
Viva la France.
Yeah, until the West Falklands shut up about their defeat...
Then, you know, then I can support them.
Omar says, Crazy feminist author can't consistently decide between the one-drop rule and the Family Guy skin colour chart.
More news slash opinion.
Yeah, that's a great point.
Is it the one-drop rule?
Or is it the Family Guy skin squatch?
Who knows?
Like, she's...
Yeah.
Zach says, Never ask an Argentinian where his grandfather was in the early 1940s.
Well, it's because you know the answer is Germany.
Um...
Charlie says, so why doesn't the Argentine football team have more black players?
Simple.
It's a country, not a Disney movie, you dunce.
That's actually, that went viral.
Someone replied to it, it's a country, not a Netflix documentary or something.
Baron Von Warhawk said, well, it's good to know the Argies can win something.
Well, that's true.
Lord Naramar says, I must admit, I was rooting for France in the World Cup final, not because of particularly liking them and their diversity regime, but because the rivalry we have with them is mostly just banter.
But the enmity with Argentina is very real.
I mean...
The thing is, I actually don't hate Argentina.
If we'd lost the war, I'd hate Argentina.
I don't know.
I think if we'd actually lost the war, we wouldn't care.
It would just be another place we lost.
As in, you know, the colonies has gone to Argentina, whatever.
Yeah, it'd be like Afghanistan, wouldn't it?
I think it's more...
It's not even a hatred from the British.
Like, the Argentinians, I think, still hate us and talk about it.
It's why Top Gear got in so much trouble doing what they did.
But for us, it's just kind of a meme.
Yeah.
Where it's like, your country's got 20% inflation?
What was that, 50% inflation?
And they never got over it as well, so...
Yeah.
In fact, he says here, they never recovered from the Falklands emotionally, and their players were singing anti-British chants in the locker room before the match with Croatia.
Well, now I'm definitely rooting for France.
Yeah.
While I respect and agree that it's a bloody nose to work diversity agenda, Argentina's victory is not a good thing for England.
Well, obviously.
No, no, I'm just making the point that it's...
Any foreign victory is not a victory for England, right?
But just like the whole concept, I really thought after the European Cup or whatever it was, where the whole thing about diversity...
I thought, okay, maybe I'll die.
And then it went to the women's one.
I was like, okay, it's the women's one.
So this is the second era and I'll die.
And in the World Cup they tried to do it again.
Yes.
So diversity has failed three times in a row after being publicly front and centre.
And so now the white people have to become the diversity.
Do you think they're going to declare every other nation a non-white nation?
So then no matter what happens next time...
I don't doubt that they are already in the process of doing that.
John says, imagine you're thinking you're the oppressed one when you're telling the government, give us 800k or there will be consequences.
I mean, that's how the slaves talk to their master.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, that's how you know you're the one who's not the oppressor.
Free Will says, Why should people who have gone to America after slavery ended pay reparations for an institution they had nothing to do with in creating or maintaining?
Yes.
All these Polish-surnamed Americans are going to be paying their reparations.
Rose says, Here's a hot take.
The large sum of money destroying them is the actual plan.
I mean, it is Democrats, man.
This is like the CIA used to have heroin dealt in the ghetto on purpose to destroy the black community.
I hadn't even considered that, Rose, actually.
New heroin.
I mean, if we're going to be cynical about it, when he's like, well, you know, blacks shouldn't pay tax, well, a lot of that is probably untaxable spending, right?
Mm-hmm.
So...
There are going to be a lot of fentanyl deaths from those reparations.
And they're going to be probably located in one community because they were the only community who got the money.
That is actually just...
No, but then it'll be 180 again.
It'll be, how could you have done this to these people who all died disproportionately of drugs in this one year?
Yeah.
It's like, well, we gave them loads of money for drugs.
And, I mean, well, like car crashes and, like, fast cars.
They're not used to driving and stuff like that.
But, like, the bin man, for example, he got all his money, just brought, like, ten cars, three mansions, gave one of the mansions to his mum.
His mum was incredibly lonely, because it's huge.
Just her.
I didn't laugh, but that's horrible.
Yeah, everything about this story is just tragic, but it's exactly what the same will happen, which is that he did loads of cocaine, loads of fancy meals, flying around the world, all that, and just within two years, he couldn't pay the mortgages anymore on the stuff he'd brought, had to sell it all, liquidated the rest of it, and then was back as a bin man.
This is a fun holiday for two years, I suppose.
Well, it's a hell of a story, but I think down the pub he probably made fun of quite a bit.
Andrew says, California ought to pay reparations to all the states when their refugees have turned the local politics blue.
That's a great point.
I think that's something that can be enforced as well.
But I guess we're out of time now.
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