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	Hello and welcome to the podcast Hello Caesars for today, Thursday the 15th of December 2022.
	I am joined by Dominique Samuels.
	How are you?
	I'm great, thank you.
	If you wouldn't mind, just introduce yourself to our international audience who might not be keen viewers of GB News.
	Okay.
	Well, I am Dominique Samuels.
	I'm a British political commentator and broadcaster.
	I am most regularly on GB News, which is saviour of mainstream television.
	And you might have seen me on ITV, Channel 4, all that good stuff.
	Yeah, I believe we have played some of your GMB contributions before, bringing a tiny bit of sanity to the morning proceedings otherwise.
	Yeah, I don't know how I keep getting asked back on there, but I suppose luck.
	Yeah, well, you're doing the Lord's work at least.
	Today we're discussing Ecto Life's first baby factory, because we truly are in Brave New World, the royal race grifter Ngozi Filani being exposed, and TikTok's skin suit of tradition, because there's a disturbing trend called the stay-at-home girlfriend, but we'll get into that shortly.
	Before we jump into the news, we actually do have a career opportunity on our website.
	We're still advertising for this.
	Come and be a video editor if you can work and live in Swindon or commute in because we're making so much content because you guys keep paying our wages that we need new people.
	We're expanding the business and, well, we need someone other than Jack to listen to me and Harry Prattle on about DC Comics for two hours at a time.
	So come work with us if you're keen to join the mission.
	Other than that, let's jump straight into the news, shall we?
	So, you might have seen a video floating around social media recently from a company called Ectolife, and this has been a giant mechanical baby breeding factory, and people have pointed to it saying, this looks an awful lot like the Matrix, let's not live in this.
	You said that you'd seen this before, and I'm going to subject you to a few of the clips that we'll go through.
	But when I first saw it, I actually thought it was a parody.
	And it's because it uses all the language that people like us, who are very sceptical of the World Economic Forum type's plans for humanity, would immediately go, alarm bells are ringing there.
	Turns out it's more of a proof of concept to try and get investors involved.
	So...
	One thing that got me was when they said it was renewable.
	I was like, oh right, okay.
	There we are.
	No failures on battery capacity happening there, I'm sure.
	So what we're going to go through today, we're going to go through a couple of the clips on this, in case you guys haven't seen it.
	And we're going to look at its subsequent articles and what this means for the reproductive future of humanity.
	Speaking of Brave New World, if you'd like to go and subscribe to our website for as little as five quid a month, you can access our book clubs.
	This one from Carl and Callum on...
	Huxley's Brave New World.
	This was meant to be a warning, not a handbook.
	Unfortunately, our scientists thought differently.
	So let's go over to the video, shall we?
	and we've got four little clips here and we're going to start with the introduction to what ectolife are calling the world's first artificial womb facility introducing ectolife the world's first artificial womb facility powered entirely by renewable energy Thank you.
	Ectolife allows infertile couple to conceive a baby and become the true biological parents of their own offspring.
	It's a perfect solution for women who had their uterus surgically removed due to cancer or other complications.
	With Ectolife, premature births and C-sections will be a thing of the past.
	Ectolife is designed to help countries that are suffering from severe population decline, including Japan, Bulgaria, South Korea, and many others.
	The facility features 75 highly equipped labs.
	Each state-of-the-art lab can accommodate up to 400 growth pods or artificial wombs.
	Every pod is designed to replicate the exact conditions that exist inside the mother's uterus.
	A single building can incubate up to 30,000 lab-grown babies per year.
	Ectolife allows your baby to develop in an infection-free environment.
	The pods are made of materials that prevent germs from sticking to their surfaces.
	Every growth pod features sensors that can monitor your baby's vital signs, including heartbeat, temperature, blood pressure, breathing rate, and oxygen saturation.
	The artificial intelligence-based system also monitors the physical features of your baby and reports any potential genetic abnormalities.
	Now, call me an extremist, but I happen to think that if certain countries have a lower birth rate, there might be a few policies we could do before doing giant artificial baby factories.
	Literally, like maybe addressing all of the chemicals and stuff that we put in our food.
	Yeah, all the microplastics in the water, all of the runoff from hormonal birth control that hasn't been taken out of the water that's lowering sperm counts.
	But also, it reminds me of, and I know Tom Harwood's a colleague of yours...
	However, his tweet a little while ago that said about housing pressure, that we even need to start sacrificing our firstborn or build more houses.
	And it's like, right, I do think we could, much like this, have a less drastic step of manufacturing babies like it's Brave New World, and instead maybe just talk about how mass immigration might be putting pressure on housing, healthcare, and the like.
	That could be a really sensible option.
	Yeah, I agree.
	But no, we're building giant baby factories instead.
	It's like, in regards to, I mean, this is particularly in the West that we're seeing decline in fertility, decline in sperm count, even for women, a lot of what we consume, the food, the birth control, the antidepressants that, you know, pharmacies are handing out like candy, all of these things have an impact on fertility.
	It just weirdly seems to be just Western countries that are actually experiencing this decline.
	And you could say that, you know, it's a range of factors, like economic factors.
	But I just find it so strange that...
	We've got this problem, which is a decline in fertility, and all of a sudden, the lovely scientists that I'm sure care about everyone have created this solution, which is, wait a minute, we don't need women to grow babies.
	We can instead just grow them in a lab.
	And funnily enough, what's existing in the West right now is a whole weird, I think, Anti-female debate about what being a woman is.
	So what I think is particularly terrifying about this is if we have these sorts of labs, the uniqueness of females of being a woman is sort of taken away because that's the only thing we have left nowadays.
	I mean, you know, the trans lover would have you believe being a woman is just a feeling or a wig that you put on or some makeup.
	But whereas we're saying, you know, it's the ability to have children, soon that's going to be obsolete.
	Well, something that Bo and I spoke about when we were going through the texts that were on the UK's literature curriculum was that, at A-level, you're forced to compare, at least I was, Frankenstein and The Handmaid's Tale.
	And The Handmaid's Tale is a foaming-at-the-mouth feminist fantasy of what a repressive, religious, right-wing society would be in forcing women to give birth because they're the only fertile ones.
	But they pair that up with Frankenstein, which is about the dangers of science, which is a great parable.
	But then they garble the message of Frankenstein to say, actually, it's about the extrication of women from the reproductive process.
	Because Victor Frankenstein is so scared of women that not only does he destroy the monster's bride, but then the monster whose expression of his unconscious destroys his bride as well.
	And his entire enterprise is to make monsters out of corpses so you never actually have to birth real children.
	And I always thought that interpretation was nonsense.
	You know, you're throwing out your back to make that far of a reach.
	But it may seem to be that rather than just an interpretation, that was a goal because that's what's happened here.
	And you say about the trans lobby, how is this not now the entitlement of anyone, no matter their identity, no matter whether or not they feel guilty about the climate and too many kids being having around, it's really, really powered after all, or whether or not they have taken Lupron and unfortunately sterilized themselves from an early age because they were or whether or not they have taken Lupron and unfortunately sterilized themselves from an early How is this not all of those people's right to the child, no matter their personal life choices?
	Exactly.
	And I don't think everyone does have a right to a child just because they want one.
	And that's why it takes a woman to grow a baby in the womb for nine months in order for that miracle to be realised.
	I think it's also sort of a part of this entitlement culture that we see.
	You know, if I can't have a baby, say for example I'm in a gay couple and we've just decided that we want a baby, why can't we grow one?
	Instead of, you know, renting a random woman's womb.
	Yeah, you're thinking about what is best for your liberated will rather than what is for the child.
	I don't know if you saw Dave Rubin's mini documentary interview he did with Jordan Peterson, talking about how he's having a kid via IVF, and I think he decided against using his sister in the end, but he was going to use his sister's eggs, his husband's sperm, and feed the baby with industrial freezers in his garage of breast milk.
	I made that exact same face.
	I was like, right, Dave, you've done some solid work interviewing plenty of people over the years for the libertarian to conservative movement, but something has gone astray with social boundaries where you feel entitled to a child to the point of where you have this very strange arrangement, which itself is not best for the kid.
	Exactly.
	I know, I completely agree.
	And look, this is controversial that some people would say, oh, you're just so heartless.
	Why can't you just let people live their lives how they like?
	But I'm sorry, as a woman, I feel uncomfortable with the idea of two men paying to rent out a woman's womb, as if we're just part of the grand human-making factory.
	It's uncomfortable.
	Don't blame you.
	Speaking of human-making factories, let's look at all of the artificial interventions that are proposed as the wonders of science by this promo video, shall we?
	Let's go on to the second clip.
	The pods are equipped with a screen that displays real-time data on the developmental progress of your baby.
	These data are sent directly to your phone so you can track your baby's health from the comfort of your zone.
	The app also provides you with a high-resolution live view of your baby's development.
	A special section in the app allows you to watch a time lapse of your baby's growth and share it directly with your loved ones.
	Because babies can recognize language and learn new words while still in the womb, Ectolife Growth Pods feature internal speakers that play a wide range of words and music to your baby.
	Through the app, you can choose the playlist that your baby listens to.
	You can also directly sing to your baby and make them familiar with your voice before birth.
	Our goal is to provide you with an intelligent offspring that truly reflects your smart choices.
	Ectolife improves your bonding experience with your baby.
	Thanks to a 360 degrees camera that's fitted inside your baby's growth pod, you can use your virtual reality headset to explore what it's like to be in your baby's place.
	See what they see and hear what they hear.
	Using a wireless haptic suit connected to your baby's growth pod, you will be able to sense their kicks in the womb and share this experience with your friends and family members.
	It's almost exactly as you said in that it's being done for a selfish reason because it's so performative that the entire incentive to have the baby is you too can do what you don't remember and be a baby in the womb by putting a VR headset on and sharing it on social media as an immersive experience.
	That's just gross.
	It's just weird.
	It's not just gross, it's just really weird.
	I mean, if you grow a child inside of you, you can sing to the child, you can put your hand on the bump and feel the kicking.
	And there's no way that you'll ever achieve the same level of closeness as you would with a child growing inside of you, compared to it growing in a pod.
	Have you considered, though, Dominique, that we could just play Spotify for a ring doorbell and the kid might get the exact same developmental benefits?
	I mean, I really doubt that'll happen.
	And I think, you know, this is, I mean, a theory, but you'll probably end up...
	You know, giving birth to quite a few sociopaths or psychopaths that find it really difficult to actually connect with other human beings on a level.
	As it were, she is a bit of a true crime buff, I do admit.
	One of the main commonalities you see always is a strained or oedipal relationship between the serial killer and their mum.
	It's like, what was the thing from Macbeth?
	It was from my mother's womb, untimely ripped.
	And that was meant to be a reference to cesarean section at the time, which was very uncommon.
	But that, it's almost the idea that not going through a natural process can create someone malevolent.
	As a general trend, that can happen.
	So we actually don't know what the personality effects are going to be like of these kids.
	And if this ever were to actually become a reality, which I think it probably will, I can almost...
	I'll put any money in it.
	I'll bet with you right now that that would be a by-product.
	You'd...
	Give birth to some real weirdos.
	Some of them won't even be able to walk properly because I saw there was a nurse who had put a comment on the YouTube version of this video that said one of the things you guys haven't accounted for is that you're going to need gyroscopes in the pods because babies get their inner ear sense of balance from the mum walking around all the time and having that constant motion.
	That's such a good point.
	So if it's static...
	How's the baby even going to stand up eventually?
	Exactly.
	And this is the thing.
	What modern science is trying to do, it's trying to replace the uniqueness of what it is to be human, I think, almost.
	And that's why a lot of people call this a part of sort of an anti-human agenda.
	There's nothing that will ever replace growing a baby inside of you.
	Nothing.
	It just so happens as well that every single policy is telling us to have less people.
	Boris Johnson's a fan of that one.
	I know, so Stanley, yeah.
	Articles on population control from 2009 on his personal website.
	And it just so happens they support the green agenda and restricting your carbon budget as part of the national plan.
	Funny that, clearly he didn't apply to Boris Johnson himself because he's been popping them out left, right and centre his whole life.
	LAUGHTER So, speaking of the elimination of biological hurdles, let's look at what they're offering in terms of benefiting the next generation of the human race with the elite package, if we'll play the third clip, please.
	With ectolife, miscarriage and low sperm count are a thing of the past.
	Prior to placing the fertilized embryo of your baby inside the growth pod, in vitro fertilization is used to create and select the most viable and genetically superior embryo, giving your baby a chance to develop without any biological hurdles.
	And if you want your baby to stand out and have a brighter future, our Elite Package offers you the opportunity to genetically engineer the embryo before implanting it into the artificial womb.
	Thanks to CRISPR-Cas9 gene editing tool, you can edit any trait of your baby through a wide range of over 300 genes.
	By genetically engineering a set of genes, the elite package allows you to customize your baby's eye color, hair color, skin tone, physical strength, height, and level of intelligence.
	It also allows you to fix any inherited genetic diseases that are part of your family history so that your baby and their offspring will live a healthy, comfortable life free of genetic diseases.
	The Elite Package allows you to determine how strong, tall and smart your baby will be for the rest of their lives.
	That's not even funny, actually.
	No.
	That is just absolutely terrifying.
	That's the genetic determination of a permanent underclass of people to serve you.
	Exactly.
	And let's just be real here.
	Mostly everyone that can attain this elite package will choose their kid to be the most intelligent of all.
	Yep.
	And that is not how society is supposed to work.
	That's not how humanity works.
	Naturally...
	It's sort of like a living organism, I would say.
	Everyone has different sorts of functions as it would, you know, with the body.
	And not everyone is intelligent or smart.
	Some people are more practical.
	But that's how, you know, society works.
	We can't have everyone at the top.
	We can't have everyone super intelligent.
	That just wouldn't work.
	Also, intelligence itself is not a marker of moral character because you have incredibly smart people throughout history who have engineered all sorts of atrocities.
	It's like...
	Very true.
	That's the same thing with the psychopathy as well, because psychopaths and sociopaths tend to be very, very intelligent.
	Yeah, we did a two-hour mini-doc on Ted Bundy, basically.
	Right.
	And one of the main reasons he kept getting away with it was because he was an intelligent man who's...
	Charming.
	Exactly.
	See, I knew there was a thing.
	It was literally called Why Women Like Serial Killers.
	So you're playing straight into the stereotype here.
	And then we also said, okay, well, dark triad personality traits, so Machiavellianism, psychopathy, narcissism, actually benefit you in the short term in rising up through business and politics as people perceive that arrogance as competence.
	Yeah.
	And so if you can evade long enough detection as a psychopath, people will think, wow, this is a really charismatic guy.
	He's really capable.
	Now imagine an elite class who accrue to themselves a monopoly on high IQs through genetic editing, and it has the byproduct you predicted of where it will create a generation of psychopaths.
	Really smart psychopaths will be running everything with their finger permanently on the scale.
	More than they already are.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	Plus, squad feels offended.
	But they think we'll be permanently on the scale of whether or not you can rise up through the ranks because they are, from birth, engineering you.
	Yeah, and they can literally make you and turn you off if they wanted to because you're being grown in a pod.
	That is truly terrifying.
	One thing that I find quite funny, though, is I think there'd surely be a woke group of white parents who probably make a black baby.
	LAUGHTER If you can choose the hair and the skin colour, the devil would.
	Well, what if you...
	Would this not, though?
	Could this not be shut down?
	This could be a really good marketing technique of saying this is technically transgenocide.
	Right.
	Because you would have a bunch of transphobic or homophobic parents in the womb determining...
	That their child has to be heterosexual or has to have the gender identity assigned at birth.
	So we could actually weaponise the online leftists.
	You actually could say that this is a transphobic enterprise and therefore must be crushed.
	I think the trans lobby could be put to good use there.
	I agree.
	Checkmate bigots.
	There we go.
	Right, if we go on to the last one, you've already preempted.
	This is renewably powered, so this is a guilt-free way of repopulating the entire planet with genetically superior psychopaths.
	Let's play.
	You don't have to worry about power cuts or carbon footprint.
	Ectolife uses highly efficient, clean, renewable energy consisting of solar and wind power.
	The highly advanced pods operate with minimal energy needs, making it easy for your baby to make it to full term without any complications.
	And for those who want a more convenient solution, Ectolife is made accessible so your life can be easier.
	Thanks to our miniaturized bioreactors and long-lasting batteries, you can use Ectolife growth pods at the comfort of your home, allowing you to incubate your baby in your building without the need to visit our factory.
	By owning your special growth pod, you will have the ability to build a happy family, one baby at a time, away from any birth complications.
	Amazing point.
	Yeah, you will own nothing and you will be happy.
	Grow your baby, live in the pod, eat the bugs.
	Yeah, live in a building and not a house.
	Very interesting language.
	Yeah.
	So, if we were to steelman this, we could say, at the start, their benevolent intent is that women who have suffered from the likes of microplastics, you know, all those environmental factors that are diminishing your birth rates in these various countries, including our own.
	I think it's 52% now of women over 30 in the UK don't have kids.
	Yeah.
	Civilisational collapse levels, right?
	This could really help.
	However, we've listed all of the problems with genetic editing, disconnectivity from the mother, and I would say worsening the existing culture that we see with things like mass abortion and mass birth control of where this could nullify the abortion argument in saying, oh, okay, because there's an artificial womb, you don't have to kill the baby.
	We can just pull it out and let it just stay independently, right?
	Oh, God, that sounds even more barbaric.
	I know, exactly.
	Because you can literally see it.
	Yeah.
	So, not great, even if we're trying to give them their due.
	Yeah, not amazing.
	Just switch it off.
	My main concern is that they've looked at just the worst societies on Earth and thought it was a template.
	And the thing that this mainly reminded me of, actually, on the news of the day that Henry Cavill was no longer Superman, quite heartbreaking, is a scene from Man of Steel where they grow babies in bladderwrack pods and get taken out by giant spiders.
	Oh, right.
	Right.
	And it's like, well, this was based on Plato's Republic.
	And Plato's Republic was obviously a metallurgic society where he said, okay, all kids should be raised in common without their mother and father around.
	And they should be allocated certain positions in society where they would be genetically engineered or raised.
	Oh, I remember this.
	Yeah, to be best suited for their roles.
	And they would stay there forever and not realise that actually the metals themselves is just a lie made up by the elites to keep them in their place.
	That was meant to be a warning, not a prescription.
	So, let's avoid this, please.
	Yeah, let's avoid it.
	Would be wonderful.
	So, if we can go on to an exclusive interview that the creator of this gave.
	Thankfully, this is not currently being built.
	It is hypothetical, and it seems to be the kind of idealism that is soliciting funding for it to be built in the future, but it's not yet being constructed.
	It's not like Saudi Arabia's Line City.
	Oh, that, which is actually being built as we speak.
	Like, I could not believe that...
	What, you don't want to live in a giant wall with vegetables drone delivered to you in the middle of the desert?
	No, no thanks.
	Because imagine, you know, the next quote-unquote pandemic and there's a lockdown.
	There's no way you'd be able to leave this giant line.
	It's almost like there are...
	Forseeable problems here that these grand architects are just overlooking and it all results in depopulation.
	Just accidentally, I'm sure it's all...
	Coincidence, I'm sure.
	Yeah, I'm sure it all is.
	So, in this article it says, It seems probable that we're only several years away from testing artificial wounds on human subjects.
	social ethics and policy academic elizabeth chloe romanes wrote in the british medical journal journal of medical ethics meanwhile dr carlo belletti associate professor at yale's university obstetrics gynecology and reproductive science department says a fully functioning artificial womb could be realized within the next 10 years each year around 300 000 women die from pregnancy or complications shortly thereafter
	but that's not all we know the constraints of the human uterus and pelvis have acted as a break on the size of the human brain and skull if freed from the need to be born in the normal way we might open the way for a new evolutionary trajectory says anna so uh samma smadgedor hopes i got that right associate professor of practical philosophy at the university So this seems very similar to something that was pointed out to me in the office earlier.
	In that there was a 70s academic called Shulamath Firestone who said that giving birth is like pushing a pumpkin out from between your legs and so women in order to realise their autonomy must be freed from the tyranny of reproduction.
	This seems like an ideological project.
	It really does.
	And anti-human...
	I say ideological.
	I don't know which one's correct.
	Ideological?
	Ideological?
	I don't know.
	I'll say ideological.
	But yeah, no, it does seem to be ideological in the sense that, you know, anything natural, it seems these people have a problem with.
	And it's always the same excuses.
	Oh, feminism.
	Oh, you know, anti-racism.
	The total liberation of the will from the body seems to be the main crux.
	And it's dangerous.
	And it does just encourage a new level of entitlement and narcissism.
	And one thing about this, the creator guy said that, although it's not been a realisation, I remember he said it's based upon 50 years of scientific research.
	So if you've been doing this sort of research for about 50 years, something tells me that, yeah, it probably will be here.
	Yeah, you have a vested interest in seeing it realised.
	Yeah.
	So if we can go to the last one, you've already said very eloquently what kind of babies will be produced by this.
	What kind of mothers will be produced by this system, shall we?
	So we have Kelly J. Keene here tweeting out this sincere video by Dylan Mulvaney, who is tracking Dylan's journey into womanhood.
	Girlhood.
	Great stuff, I'm sure.
	Let's listen to this clearly very sensible individual threaten women.
	Can we play the clip, please?
	It's not because I'm misogynistic.
	It's because you're transphobic.
	You know, we got to work through this.
	And babe, caring for others, it's the bare minimum.
	You know, you might not like me, but I care about you.
	I care about your feelings.
	I care about your opinion of me, which I'm really trying to get over.
	And the last thing I will say, and this will probably make you feel really good, is that I'm jealous of you.
	You know, I wish I was born in your body.
	I wish I had a uterus.
	You know, my sex assigned at birth was a biological male.
	Does that make you feel better hearing me say that?
	It's just not what God had in mind.
	So here I am.
	You know, there's probably a lot of women that you don't like to group yourself with, but they're still women.
	And so am I. And now it just, it feels like high school and it feels like you want me to experience the pain and trauma that you've had to endure as a girl.
	And the fact that here I am, you know, attempting to enjoy womenhood is incomprehensible to you.
	You know, whether it's that I carry tampons, that I'm too feminine, or I call myself a girl, or that I'll never birth a child.
	Well, here's some more good news for you.
	I'm not enjoying my womanhood as much as I was.
	And my pain might be different than your pain, but it's very real.
	So if that was your goal, then congrats.
	But I'm still a woman.
	And I'm tired, and we don't have to be BFFs, and you don't have to follow me.
	Just please don't call the police on me if we bump into each other in the bathroom.
	You know, my only agenda is to try to find the will to wake up every day and find some ounce of happiness.
	And believe it or not, somehow, I love ya.
	And P.S. I am also very nervous for you just because, hopefully soon, transphobia won't be as tolerated online.
	Your tweets are forever and I don't want those to come back and haunt you.
	Okay.
	Bye.
	I'm very nervous for you, says the person who just went to the White House to talk about a national strategy for tackling transphobia.
	Wow.
	But the concerning thing is, well, concerning for transphobes, of course, is that if Dylan, very feminine name, says that I can't have a uterus or a child, so my experience of womanhood is diminished, congratulations, I suppose, because within the next few years, thanks to ectolife, you will be a full woman, and women will no longer have a monopoly over giving birth and having kids.
	Exactly.
	And that's exactly the point I was making in that prospect.
	People like that.
	Being entitled to look after vulnerable children.
	I'm sorry it makes me scared and call me a transphobe or whatever, but, you know, as he said in the video, I'm trying to wake up every day and find an ounce of happiness.
	So you clearly haven't found that happiness wearing this costume that you've put on or, you know, referring to yourself as a girl, even though your name's Dylan.
	Um...
	This is clearly something that's more mental and it's something to do with the brain.
	That's why many de-transitioners, people that have gone from transgender back to their assigned sex at birth, they've realised that it actually wasn't about putting on makeup and putting on fake breasts and wearing a skirt.
	Really, it's about something that you've not addressed mentally.
	But the sad thing is, people like him are being put on this pedestal They're being encouraged, you know, and emboldened, and it's turning them into entitled narcissists.
	And sadly, they'll never get that help that I think they need.
	And that's not to say that, you know, every single trans person on earth is like Dylan.
	Some people, like, for example, Blair White, who I'm a fan of, I think...
	are a bit different in the conversation but I think generally it is really about a mental issue that hasn't been addressed and I think it's really irresponsible that this narrative is being pushed on so many vulnerable men and women to the point where we're just pumping them full of drugs, making them infertile, ruining their life, chopping off and mutilating their body and it's fine because what, you know, hashtag trans rights, it's Well, also, it's fine because science can do it.
	And I think that's the crux of this segment to finish on.
	Just because technologically we have come to the point where we can do something like this, where we can disconnect childbirth from the pains that women have to go through, doesn't mean that we should because we're cutting off a meaningful enterprise which does define...
	Femininity, inextricably.
	Something that women should absolutely be lauded for, for doing their part.
	Or made to do.
	Yeah, and you're continuing the civilization.
	It's something very meaningful to have kids.
	I'd rather be, I'm saving this for some content that Beau and I are filming tomorrow, but I'd rather be George from It's a Wonderful Life with a little family around me than an Andrew Tate with endless baghettis, you know?
	Yeah.
	That's more important.
	I think a lot of people would want that.
	And also, we need to centre it back to what's best for the kids.
	And strangely enough, I don't think being grown in a giant matrix-style test tube incubator facility is that.
	Where your parents can actually pick and choose everything about you.
	Like, what sort of example does that set?
	Yeah.
	It's a brave new world without women.
	Okay, so, on to our next part, shall we?
	So, I'm sure many of you viewers will have seen our segment a little while ago with the Reverend Calvin Robinson on royal race grifter Ngozi Filani's charity, Sister Space.
	It's found itself in a spot of bother.
	So the African and Caribbean women-only domestic abuse charity have paused operations recently, saying that they've been harassed ever since she got Lady Susan sacked for saying, where are you really from, while dressed like an extra from Wakanda forever.
	Some digging, unfortunately, has uncovered some less than above-board activities by the organisation, and now the Charity Commission have taken notice.
	So we're going to go through some Citizen Journalist tweet threads and do a follow-up on the story, because it seems to be this is a case of Icarus flying too close to the very woke sun.
	If you'd like more Pan-African nonsense, you could subscribe to our website and watch me and Harry being subjected to watching Wakanda forever.
	I've not seen that yet.
	Don't.
	It's horrific.
	It's to give you a taste of just how stereotypically painful it is.
	Wakanda's border...
	I don't know if you've seen the first one.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	You did your part, I guess.
	Wait...
	I liked the first one, thanks.
	The first one is an incredibly racist, terribly written film.
	Oh, right.
	Go and watch our review.
	It'll change your mind, I'm sure.
	Okay, right.
	All right, then.
	I enjoyed it.
	So Chadwick Boseman, before he died, said, I identified more with Killmonger than my own character.
	And if you remember what Killmonger said, he said, we need to kill the colonizers and their children.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah, that.
	Yeah, he's Black Hitler.
	Right.
	Might be a small issue.
	In this one, they actually are accidentally more racist, because remember when in the first one you could walk through Wakandan border if you had that lip tattoo?
	Yeah.
	That's gone.
	Instead, in order to open the borders so the spaceships can fly through, they have two men standing behind their border, and they play the bongo drums, and then the walls open.
	Yeah.
	And Namor, who is a Mexican, swims under the border, under the border wall, jumps up and he is defeated because Shuri, who becomes Black Panther, dries his back out.
	She's Black Panther now?
	Yeah, she becomes Black Panther, yeah.
	Right.
	So she dries the wet back of the Mexican man out.
	No.
	That's how the film ends.
	Oh my gosh.
	Anyway, watch that rather than watching that terrible movie.
	Oh my gosh.
	On to Ngurzi Falani's press release, shall we?
	This is reported by your very own GB News.
	She put up on Instagram, Thank you for the continued support and messages.
	Unfortunately, recent events meant that Sister Space were forced to temporarily cease many of our operations to ensure the safety of our service users and our team.
	We are overwhelmed by the amount of support and encouragement and look forward to fully reinstating our services as soon as safely possible.
	Now, this was last Friday.
	I think it's fair to say that, as full disclaimer, you should not be sending loads of messages to this account, you should not be harassing it, because, of course, inciting hatred and violence in Britain over the internet is a crime, so don't lie on yourself and maybe trouble people.
	We also have UKBLM showing solidarity with Sister Space with their incredible graphic.
	If you scroll up, please, John.
	There is...
	There we go.
	I mean, graphic design is clearly their passion.
	Looks like a Mexican, you know, like, oh no, like, you know, Old Western sort of thing.
	My ears immediately prick up as the legitimacy of a cause when BLM get involved.
	Yeah, fair point.
	Of course, I wouldn't like to be accused of being racist here, but they do literally steal money.
	So that's not good.
	And it seems like Sister Space may have done a similar thing.
	Oh, really?
	It's another grift.
	Oh, wow.
	I'm really, really shocked and surprised at that.
	Imagine my surprise, yeah.
	I thought that she genuinely went to the palace dressed like that and was genuinely offended.
	It was attacked by the racist lady.
	I didn't think that there would be another agenda here.
	No, no.
	There couldn't possibly be another agenda when they previously released a post that said, by the way, we won't report any black men who are domestic abusers to the police because we know what happens to black men in custody.
	Oh my god.
	So there's no accountability here.
	Just painful!
	This is what racial ideology does to people.
	It makes them insane.
	Yeah, well, looking at the deaths in police custody statistics, which are very low in the UK compared to the US as well, and even in the US more white men die than black men in police custody, there's literally none for the last ten years.
	Whenever I say the raw statistics to people, they are genuinely shocked because the narrative pushed by the likes of UK's BLM would have you think that black men are being sprayed by the police left, right and centre, but it's just not happening.
	No.
	So if we move on to this Citizens Journalism thread put together by an anonymous account, which I know you're thinking, why has he got a Pikachu image as his icon?
	I'm immediately discounting this.
	Weirdly enough, this account is also followed by Michael Gove.
	Right.
	So, it must be someone in the know because this is very well researched and brings up all the receipts.
	We're just going to go through some of the tweets.
	So, he starts off with, I've decided I'm going to write up some but not all of the things I've discovered since learning of the charity sister space and its members.
	This is going to be a long thread, so for the sake of making it easier, I'm going to limit the reply function.
	And he's done...
	In Threadreader, you can go and read through the entire thread in your own time.
	He's done a third one as of yesterday, which I haven't had time to go through yet.
	We're going to look at some of the tweets from the first two, some of the most damning indictments, and I'm sure there's more that I'll have to cut for the sake of time, but it's listed on our website as a source.
	So in tweets 8 to 12, he says, The trustee annual reports were being signed off by senior members involved in the charity posing as independent examiners.
	So there's the first red flag, because the independent examiner is obviously not meant to be in the charity, as connoted by the term independent.
	Right.
	Named Rosanna Lewis, or Roseanne Lewis, Rose Lewis, Rose Muata, or Roseanne Muata.
	Now, later on the thread, he said this was actually a pseudonym of Ngozi Falani herself.
	How many names does this lady have?
	This is going to be a running trend for everyone involved in this story.
	Whoa.
	Everyone has multiple names on the books in the official documents they gave to the charity commission.
	So they're marking their own homework under various of the same pseudonyms and thinking that nobody would notice as well.
	But seemingly, people within the Charity Commission and within halls of government who've given them grants decided either not to notice or just all of them collectively, systematically, overlooked the clear errors being reported.
	I think we know why.
	I couldn't possibly allege.
	So then, a co-founder of the charity cannot, obviously, be an independent examiner, so this alone ought to warrant the Charity Commission opening a regulatory compliance case into sister space.
	On tweet 13, one of the other things that warrants investigation, the reports show a 4,703% annual increase in administrative expenses.
	Whoa.
	What were they spending all that money on?
	Literally.
	We'll get on that later.
	Sister Space began earlier than reported as well.
	It was in 2015, not in 2018.
	And for those three years, they only reported cash income to its reports.
	So they didn't file all the grants they got.
	This is so brazen.
	Yeah, so all the money disappeared into someone's back pocket, it seems.
	Tweets 29 to 31.
	London Assembly member Caroline Pidgeon, I believe she's a Lib Dem, and she's got the EU flag in her bio, so says, well, you need to know about that.
	She cited in a meeting a figure of Sister Spaces Services seeing a 300% increase in demand since the start of the pandemic.
	Now, other figures were banded around between 250 and 500.
	I think the average was like 395% increase, right?
	So she got that figure.
	From the reports where the charities had admitted to not complying with charity commission rules.
	So she read those reports, saw where all this money was disappearing to...
	And ignore that part, but took their stats as given.
	As gospel.
	Yeah, and then said, and this is why they need taxpayer subsidies from the London Assembly.
	So she saw all of the financial malfeasance, assumedly, unless she opened up to a random page where the statistic just so happened to be didn't read the rest of it, in which case that's incompetent governance, and decided she needed taxpayer subsidies.
	Anyone would think that this was just deliberate incompetence.
	Hmm.
	Anyone would think that, based upon the evidence.
	Either that or just too scared to say anything because it's a black charity, let's just be honest.
	It seems they've been making quite a lot of capital off of that claim as well.
	So, in tweets 35 to 40, speaking of...
	appearing as a black charity and many names.
	The author says here, I should clear up.
	Whenever I write Ngozi Falani, keep in mind this could also mean Ngozi Headley, Ngozi Headley Falani, Marlene Headley, Marlene Falani, Mary Heedy, Mary Falani, Mary Heedly Falani, or Sister Ngozi.
	For any avoidance of doubt, they are all the same person.
	So it seems that she changed her name in order to appear more African.
	But then gets offended when asked where she's from.
	When people ask, where the hell are you from?
	Like, to be honest, when I first heard about it, I was like, oh, that sounds bad.
	Then I saw the picture and I was like, no, British black person dresses like that.
	No, you look like a character from Coming to America.
	Literally, you're dressed in a costume.
	Like...
	When she went on Good Morning Britain, she had Cleopatra earrings on.
	Like, and the thing is, and, you know, I'll say this, with a lot of these black people that...
	Sort of align with all this stuff.
	Half of them don't even know the tribes that they've gotten these patterns from.
	It's all just mishmashed.
	Marcus Garvey, when he spoke about going back to Africa, was Jamaican?
	And it reminds me of the Patrice O'Neill bit years ago where he says, I always get told by racists, you know, go back to Africa.
	And then I hear black people saying the same thing.
	What was I as a black American going to do in Africa?
	You think I'm going to go over to Liberia and fight some goofy war with a machete, wearing sweatpants and smart shoes?
	I'm going to get killed on day one.
	I don't know how to be an African.
	I'm an American through and through.
	Exactly.
	And that's why Africans don't like me.
	No, it's literally true.
	So you've got her.
	She's clearly, I think, confused, wearing all this stuff, and then gets offended when someone wonders where you're from.
	Clearly, I don't know, she went in there with an agenda.
	Yes.
	Now, this agenda happens to align with an institutional agenda because she's been photographed many times with, I'm sure, our mutual favourite MP, Diane Abbott, who looks like she just got out of bed there, out in front of the Sister Space charity shop.
	And the charity shop seems to be where all of this operation cost money is going to.
	It was originally called Maxine and Marlene's.
	I believe it's changed its name now.
	And they sell things relating to African culture.
	We'll get into that later.
	Back to the thread.
	Tweets 44 to 45.
	Hackney Council paid for the charity shop and £35,000 worth of refurbishment in December 2019.
	It gave them to them rent-free and they provided them 24-hour security.
	So they've had no operations costs in terms of the building, in terms of refurbishment.
	So when you said, are they making capital off of guilt over the fact that it's a black female charity, seems to be so.
	Yeah, there's not so much institutional racism there.
	No, well, actually, they're celebrating it because the writer of this thread said, I've actually poured through hours of the publicly available CCTV footage, and it seems like most of their work consists of leaving the door open, which you would think is a security threat for women of domestic violence, and twerking loudly in the street with music playing, like it's the Notting Hill Carnival.
	Oh my god, that is hilarious.
	So, tweets 54 to 72.
	Their overhead costs may be increasing because they've been buying goods to resell.
	Such goods include CDs and books from Dr.
	Sandra Richards.
	That's Ngozi Falani's older sister.
	Sandra believes she's an African god reincarnated from an older life living among a weaker species.
	Oh, this is just so embarrassing.
	Watches from Mosaic, which is a dissolved business that owes hundreds of thousands to creditors.
	Its director is Kasai Antonio Falani.
	Also known as Kas Falani, Kas Heedli, Kas Falani Heedli, Kasai Falani, Kasai Heedli, or Kasai Falani Heedli, Ngozi Falani's son, of course.
	Then Mosaic received a credit grant from Santander for £8,000 awarded to Djan Heedli, Ngozi Falani's daughter, just to reflect, when I write Djan Heedli, the thread compiler says, This could also mean Dijanomi, Dijan, Dijande, Dijand, and Heedly or Fulani, respectively.
	It sounds to me like they're using all these different names, so they can't be found out, to be honest.
	That's what it sounds like.
	Well, all of the Charity Commission reports are filed late.
	Right.
	Every single year.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	It's a bit of a 419 scam, isn't it?
	It just sounds like a big, big scam.
	Yeah, it's a slush fund.
	They also get clothing from Tobias Aziza, or Aziza Drummond, and more recently he changed his name to Tobias Fulani Aziza in 2017.
	And then there are Survivor dolls provided by Maxine Clay, who's Ngozi Fulani's twin sister.
	Half of all doll sales are donated to the Sisters Space Charity, so it's a circular economy here.
	Should we see what these dolls look like?
	Because we have a photo.
	Why would you want to buy that?
	It looks terrifying.
	It's like something from a nightmare.
	It does look like something from Annabelle, doesn't it?
	We've got a white one there, though.
	Oh, that's nice.
	Are you sure it's not just Pennywise in the background?
	Hiding like he's E.T. Alright, so back to the thread.
	Tweets 84 to 123.
	Sister Space, between the 26th of March 2019 and the 8th of September 2021, received at least 194,000.
	£498 in grants.
	So, the frustrating thing is, these are mostly taxpayer grants.
	So we've been paying for this.
	We're paying for this nonsense.
	Yep.
	A £12,000 grant from London Assembly to run a Survey Monkey poll, for which they used the free version.
	Where'd that £12,000 go?
	£950 grant on the 23rd of January 2020 was for Fulani's daughter to teach sewing classes, where people had to bring their own fabric and equipment.
	They're not even...
	Nope.
	This shouldn't be funny, but it's like...
	It's just an obvious grift.
	It's so...
	Yeah, but it's been so easy for them.
	Because it's facilitated by a culture of cover-up because you can't question this charity based on its intersectional credentials.
	And just through this example, this whole sort of narrative that goes around, you know, this country being institutionally racist.
	Well, you know, the council is an institution of this racist country and they've just been raking taxpayer cash in by virtue of being a black charity.
	The reason they get so much from the council as well is because they constantly accuse the council of being racist.
	They've had multiple complaints filed and it always ends up, and we'll see later the actual statistics for it, with them getting an increasing proportion of the council's domestic violence budget and the council's domestic violence budget keeps going up year on year on year because they're doing this extortion racket of saying we're going to ruin your reputation if you don't fund us.
	And just this is the thing, this culture that we've created of the entitlement.
	It is, as I said previously, just giving rise to just narcissists and using your race as a cover for that narcissism works now.
	Because it's like, as long as you're black, you can say and do anything you want.
	Because you're preying on people's obvious and fair fear?
	I don't know if the word is right.
	Empathy, I'd say.
	Yeah, to not want to be accused of or seen as supporting the abhorrence of racism of judging someone as morally inferior on the colour of their skin.
	That's a completely fair instinct for people these days to not want.
	But that's being exploited by cynical actors who are grifting off the fact that polite people will not raise their head above the parapet so long as they don't get accused of being racist.
	And so you can just pocket all of the money which would otherwise be going to actual victims of domestic violence.
	That should be the key message here.
	Yeah, including, you know, black victims of domestic violence.
	But even I saw a tweet saying that this charity discriminates against mixed-race people.
	There was one tweet.
	Oh, is there colourism going on here?
	Yeah, there was one.
	You're too light-skinned for us to help you.
	Yeah, no, there was a tweet that went viral.
	And because the victim was mixed-race, she was being told that she was privileged.
	This is like Munro Bergdorf saying that even though I'm a multi-millionaire model for not being particularly good looking, that some white guy on the street, a former veteran who has drug problems or PTSD, is more privileged than me because if he did walk into a soup kitchen, I would be refused and he wouldn't.
	It's that warped mentality that just doesn't make sense and it's a mental illness.
	Yeah, it's the ideological kaleidoscope discolouring your view of reality.
	Yeah.
	I like the way you put that.
	Cheers, thank you very much.
	I do get hired here for some reason.
	So there's a couple of other grants as well.
	Sorry, £22,500 was awarded on the 27th of April 2020 by London Community Foundation for some MacBooks and iPhones.
	MacBooks and iPhones?
	Yep.
	I don't even have that.
	So nice work if you can get it.
	And £32,948 on the 11th of August 2020 was awarded by the Department for Digital Culture, Media and Sport.
	That's right, your Conservative government doing the work you elected them for.
	Oh yeah, Conservative government, alright.
	It's a joke.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Absolute communists.
	So, on tweet thread, so 2.7 to 3.2, then we find out a bit more about Fulani's daughter, who's a vlogger.
	She works with a woman called Veronica Ojiambo.
	O-J-O-I-A-M-B-O. You butchered that.
	I did, yeah, sorry.
	Of the Peter Ogiambo Foundation.
	I would recommend you not visiting their website, because they're a listed charity, but when you pull up their website, it redirects to a porn page written in Mandarin.
	No!
	So something tells me they're not on the up and up.
	And then when you look at the number associated with their charity, because they have a page where they file all their accounts late as well, the telephone number redirects to one that has been repeatedly reported as a cold calling scam number that has been guilty of bank fraud.
	So literal Nigerian print scammers are working the sister space using the same offices and using Ngozi Fulani's daughter as the go-between.
	This isn't even funny, is it, really?
	No, it's not, because we're all paying for it.
	What on earth?
	And it's the fact that...
	Getting away with all this for years.
	She probably thought she was bloody invincible.
	That's why she waltzed into the palace and thought...
	Got an audience with Camilla.
	I mean, I wouldn't get that.
	And to be honest, I think it makes me angry at the palace, actually, and the royal family.
	Why was she even invited is one thing.
	But then the other thing, that they just tossed Lady Hussey to the wolves.
	And now they look extra stupid because all of this stuff is now coming out.
	And they deserve it.
	They look silly now.
	Yeah, you've panned to an obviously disingenuous male.
	And anyone, you know, with half a brain cell, there's so many black people that were just like, you know, we don't dress like this.
	I would probably ask her where she's from as well.
	I mean, to be fair, I did have to ask you to get changed into something more professional and appropriate before you came on the podcast.
	Yeah, exactly, because I was in full-on African headdress.
	Yeah, you had a basket carrying around.
	Yeah.
	That's just painful stereotyping.
	It's just frustrating.
	And she stereotyped herself, though.
	Even...
	It's all performative.
	It really is.
	And it's sad, to be honest, because, you know, not that I feel collective responsibility for all British black people, but a lot of black people are just very tired of being presented as these people that just look for grievance everywhere we go.
	And we don't all dress like that.
	And we don't all, you know, kick and scream for being asked where we're from.
	I've been asked where I'm really from quite a few times.
	And I might say by a lot of, you know, other people from immigrant backgrounds, like, Not to stereotype, whenever I get a taxi, for example, the immigrant driver would be like, oh, so where are you from?
	And I'd say, oh, obviously here, I'm from Manchester, UK. They'd be like, oh no, where are you really from?
	And I'd just say, do you mean ethnicity?
	Tell them, and they're happy to tell me where they're from.
	It doesn't have to be combative.
	No.
	It's just a superficial way of getting some insight into your life and making small talk.
	Exactly.
	And to be honest, what's weird is, if you were so proud of this heritage that's so on display, you've changed your name, you've clearly got identity issues, really you should be living somewhere in Africa if you love it that much and you're that passionate about it.
	But if you're so proud of this background, surely you would jump at the chance to say, Caribbean, this part of Africa, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	You wouldn't automatically be on the defence ready for a fight.
	Yeah, but it's pure power play.
	Yeah, it really is.
	It's setting a trap for your ideological opponents to walk into, and then you can ensnare them and hoist them up by their own standards.
	The funny thing is, as well, I don't actually think she's African, because I did read in this thread, she was talking about reuniting with her mother in Barbados.
	No, but this is the thing, like, with a lot of, you know, Jamaicans or, like, Caribbeans, they're like, our home really is in Africa, despite the fact, you know, we don't know where that is.
	Africa's massive, as you probably know.
	So that's just what's so comical about it.
	It is ridiculous.
	So, on tweet 3.9 to 4.1, other organisations also use Sister Space's headquarters, which, again, they're not paying rent for, including an anti-white critical race theory workshop in class, which provides books that tell white people to practice racial communism by saying, you've got to redistribute your resources to us.
	Oh no!
	And there are photos of a guy who is reading the book with the shelves open and it says, it's not why I'm not talking to white people about race.
	It's something very similar like that.
	And it's just, yeah.
	Again, we're paying for this.
	Then tweets 6.1 to 6.3 on the original thread.
	It says, referencing back to the matters between Sister Space and Hackney Council, including the mayor of Hackney, is on record.
	That many, many occasions this council was accused of racism and sexism for explaining that it cannot afford to give in to the demands made by Sister Space.
	Hackney Council, under Philip Glanville's mayorship, initially had a domestic violence budget of £286,000.
	This increased to £567,000 since he took office in his current role.
	Where's all that money going?
	To Sister Space.
	Seemingly sick.
	Oh, gosh.
	They're lobbying for more and more and more with the threat of racism, sex, and otherwise.
	So on the second thread, we're just going to look at two quick tweets here.
	She's making a fortune.
	Oh, she's making an absolute killing.
	Yeah, at our expense.
	So, tweets 7 to 14.
	Interestingly, their use of black as an exclusionary category and directly saying, we do not subscribe to BAME, we are black women, and it ends there.
	We offer services to other women who look like us.
	May actually fall afoul of the Charity Commission guidelines on racial discrimination.
	Yeah, because that is just discrimination out and out.
	Yeah.
	It's not talking about the political veil of marginalised groups and talking about it on class-based.
	It just so happens to be black.
	It's saying, we have racial quotas.
	Which itself falls afoul of my least favourite piece of legislation, but would be really funny if they got hoisted by this, I'm not going to hold my breath though, Equality Act 2010, because you explicitly can't discriminate on the basis of race.
	Now, that standard only ever goes one way, especially with government departments, but would be quite interesting if that is the grounds on which they're terminated, because using their own standards against them would be a nice bit of irony.
	And then tweets 46 to 48.
	They fundraised for a canal boat to house domestic violence victims.
	And then all they did was post YouTube videos of them going for joyrides on it.
	Now, I don't know if anyone knows anything about canal boat.
	Very small.
	So, where are they all being housed?
	And throughout all of this, throughout them selling hair dye, throughout them doing fundraising efforts for a charity shop and that, where have you ever heard about any actual domestic violence victims?
	I was wondering that.
	Where are all these people that they're supposed to be helping?
	Yeah, and yet they're invited to the palace to talk on behalf of them.
	Doesn't make sense.
	Suspicious.
	So, I'd like to go on to this last little bit here.
	Emma Webb also decided to share a little tweet or Facebook post or something.
	Oh yeah, that's what I've mentioned about the mixtures thing.
	Now, this is what she's saying.
	Whether or not this can be authenticated is up for debate, but looks real.
	Ngozi Falani says, Our enemy is white.
	Right.
	So are we thinking that she might have had ulterior motives in getting Lady Hussey fired?
	Just maybe.
	Yeah, just maybe.
	Like the destruction of the colonialist, white supremacist institution of the monarchy.
	And she was just welcomed in with open arms because of the royal family's desperate desire to pander to people that would rather they didn't exist.
	Yeah.
	Average Meghan Markle fan, I'm sure.
	Yeah, we've seen her tweets claiming that the royal family domestically abused Meghan.
	Well, at least Sister Space has finally found someone they can help, I guess.
	Yeah, Meghan Markle.
	Wealthy princess.
	I'm sure she'd jump at the chance.
	White pill.
	Positive.
	Let's go on to this final bit.
	Turns out that the Charity Commission have now taken a look into it.
	In a statement, the watchdog said, it was assessing material posted on social media questioning the charity's finances and organisation.
	The Greater London Assembly's finance chief has also been asked to ensure that grants the sister space...
	Have been used as intended.
	I'm sure.
	The charity's latest yearly accounts to March 31st, 2021.
	Shirt received a little over £357,000 in grants, project funding and donations, an increase from £50,000 in 2018 to 2019.
	Funding has come from a variety of sources, including the Great London Assembly, Department for Culture, Media, Digital and Sport, and Comic Relief, which gave Sister Space £60,000 to improve its website and online support.
	Website and online support, 60 grand.
	Yeah.
	That is absolutely ridiculous.
	So to conclude then, nice grift if you can make it work.
	Let's hope these people's books definitely are on the up and up and this is all just conspiracy theories because otherwise we've all been had, haven't we?
	And I think this opens up a wider conversation about the Department of Culture, Media, Digital and Sport, these other charities, just throwing money at things without actually knowing anything about them.
	I think particularly with that government department, I think some people probably need to be held to account, probably sacked.
	Do you think someone in the government department will be head to account?
	Must be your first day of notices.
	Naive, naive, I'm sure.
	But still, the point still stands.
	Like, it's irresponsible.
	And it's public money.
	Putting all of our money to the most ill-gotten gains possible.
	Right, on to the last one then, shall we?
	This will be a fun one.
	So, in an age where our lives deviate so drastically from those of our grandparents and our peers engaged in all sorts of unwholesome behaviours on a Friday night, it's easy to romanticise calls to return to tradition.
	We've spent enough time on Twitter and social media and in political circles to see trad girl influencers bloody everywhere.
	I have seen the argument that it's a positive thing for women to give each other solid advice on how to stray away from feminism and As a man who has dated women, I know that women do not listen to men.
	Therefore, women giving the advice is probably the best.
	And likewise for men supposedly trying to be stronger and more masculine and taking responsibility for each other.
	The problem I have is I think we're inhibiting a cut flower culture, to steal a phrase from Dennis Prager.
	When we're looking at a flower, we think there's something really beautiful about it, but in removing it from its roots, it will wither and die rather quickly.
	And I think a lot of these trends posted on Twitter and TikTok from the like Are anything but actually traditional, because they're unmoored from their roots, which gave them the archetypes in the first place.
	So I think we should go through a couple of things that point to these trends, that are trying to teach Zoomers on how to be strong men and feminine women, and explain, you're basically wearing a skin suit of tradition, and here's how to do it properly.
	Don't just wear my culture as a costume, you know?
	So, firstly, let's dress the men.
	There's an article on the BBC the other day saying, Andrew Tate, I fear an online influencer radicalised my son.
	I have a particular bone to pick with Andrew Tate, because he is held up as, especially considering Jordan Peterson went on hiatus for quite a while, the replacement Jordan Peterson.
	What?
	I'm so glad you pulled that face because I can't stand it.
	That is ridiculous.
	I don't personally see how a guy who says, be a strong man, be a protector, be a provider.
	Also, here is my childless, Bugatti-filled mansion full of OnlyFans whores has your best interest at heart as a man.
	Doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
	And I think with Andrew Tate, because...
	There's just something that rubs me up the wrong way about him.
	Some people have said he's the replacement to Jordan Peterson, which I think is shocking, but I don't know if you've heard of Kevin Samuels.
	No.
	No relation, I see.
	Oh, yeah, funny.
	But, you know, he passed away recently, actually.
	But he was sort of the black, the actual black Jordan Peterson, I would say.
	Just speaking the truth to a lot of modern women, this whole idea of modern female culture, which is what he sort of piggybacked on.
	I'd say he's more influenced by Kevin Samuels than Jordan Peterson, actually.
	But with Kevin Samuels in particular, he genuinely did practice what he preached and sort of actually cared about the welfare of women.
	Right.
	Because a lot of modern female culture is actually caused by emotional mental issues, trauma that women haven't addressed, and then we replace that with, I don't need no man, blah, blah, blah, blah, that sort of thing.
	Whereas Andrew Tate, it just, for me, it just seems to come from a place of narcissism, for me.
	And I don't get that impression with Jordan Peterson or Kevin Samuels too.
	You should look at some of his videos, he's funny as hell.
	Alright, I'm now encouraged to do a deep dive.
	Yeah, he's funny as hell, but he speaks so much sense.
	So I'm just going to read a little bit from this article here.
	Will is like many 15-year-old boys.
	He likes sport, hanging out with his mates, spending time on social media, but his mum fears he's been, quote, radicalised.
	Jane took a call from her son's school to say Will had been involved in an incident involving a female teacher.
	She said Will and some other boys have been repeating the news of controversial views of controversial online influencer Andrew Tate to make the teacher, quote, squirm.
	Some teachers are worried as they've seen a rise in boys quoting Mr.
	Tate, and I can say from immediate experience, for example, my mum works in secondary school, this is very much the case.
	I've been on trains before, I've sat in restaurants that are local to me, and I've heard boys in seats a little bit over calling each other Oh,
	gosh.
	Right, yeah.
	The guy who runs an OnlyFans cat house, which is basically the instrument of men's digital immiseration by getting them hooked on porn, has your best interests at heart.
	Really, mate?
	Come on, you're better than this, bro.
	One leading child protection expert said the online safety bill...
	Of course there's an agenda behind this.
	No, no. no.
	Should not lead us to give undue sympathies to the likes of Tate, just because they're one of our enemies.
	I saw this with Boris coming back, for example, and I'm sure you felt the bloody same way, of where I said, we shouldn't be clapping seals at Boris just returning, just to annoy the lefties.
	Which is like, ooh, even with the Matt Hancock stuff, you know, in the jungle, there were some, like, childish conservatives online going, well, I'm going to vote for Matt Hancock to own the left!
	And it's like...
	It's like, okay, he literally killed people in nursing homes, though.
	Like, but on the left, right?
	You absolute fool.
	What are you talking about?
	Higher body count than Harold Shippen.
	But it's really funny if he wins.
	On the left, it's like, oh God, grow up, please.
	However, I think what we can say is there is a genuine reason for Tate rising up through the ranks.
	And that is...
	Young boys have been demonised for a very long time.
	That's why Jordan Peterson was so successful.
	But he's far more wholesome, at least before his hiatus, unfortunately.
	And Tate seems to be, in the eyes of men who see masculinity in a material lens, as very successful, as a paragon of unapologetic strength, as he gets all the girls he wants, he goes on private jets, he's got millions of pounds, he lives like a king, he's a top gangster.
	And the point I'm trying to make is that that is a warped view of masculinity because it's unmoored for the reasons that you would be strong in the first place, right?
	The reasons you want to be a breadwinner.
	Because this is something we spoke about in the first segment.
	The world should not be for you.
	It should be for your kids.
	Marriage should not be for you.
	you're staying together to build a wholesome family environment to raise a kid.
	As a man, I can say, I earn all right money these days from various jobs and being a workaholic.
	I wouldn't spend anything at all if it weren't for women.
	I'm going to be honest.
	Like, if you weren't taking someone out on a date or something, you just have a massive bank account, relatively, and what would you be buying?
	There's that joke of how do men live like this, where it's just a TV on the floor and a mattress.
	So true, though.
	Men are relatively...
	We're not like magpies.
	We don't like going around finding shiny things.
	But this is what guys think of nowadays.
	They think of the paragon of success as having absolutely no duty, no reason to be invested in something, no reason to give your money up, and instead just being surrounded by material possessions.
	Yeah, and it's sad.
	It's sad.
	You know, because Andrew Tate talks about the Matrix and everything, but he's like...
	The biggest example of what actually entraps people in the Matrix, this whole idea of needing things and you attributing the number of things that you have to your value as a man.
	And again, it's just this narcissism culture.
	And I think there's something really distasteful about him as a person.
	I do really like the fact that you picked up on that point because it is like Cypher where he says, I know this is fake, but it tastes real enough for me to feel comfortable doing it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I'm sure Andrew Tate must know at the centre of his life, and this might be behind his recent conversion to Islam.
	Which is what?
	Just what?
	Drawn to a religion which controls women.
	Well, I never.
	But I think he must think, I don't have an heir to my empire, essentially.
	The other day he posted, I'm the modern Genghis Khan.
	Okay, no.
	Being a globe-trotting rapist, not a great idea.
	But he must think, I want to leave a legacy behind, but I can't actually form a relationship that isn't dependent or purely sexual with a woman long enough to have a son and know how to raise him.
	So there is something very empty at the core of his life.
	It's a bit Ebenezer Scrooge-ish.
	You've got all the riches in the world, but nobody to share it with.
	Yeah, there's something not...
	I've never thought he was all there mentally, I'm not going to lie.
	There's just something not quite right there.
	But I do think him as an individual, like you said, he's got all this stuff, but clearly nobody to share it with.
	And I just think that he's sort of, again, with regards to the global...
	I think he's a bit of a convenient puppet for these sorts of people, if I'm honest.
	Same with the whole Elon Musk thing.
	I think he's doing great things.
	But I think that both people like him and Andrew Tate really are just being used to...
	Propel, you know, your online safety bills.
	Even the EU's got one online.
	There's online.
	I forgot what it's called.
	It slipped my mind.
	But they've got something similar to the online safety bill.
	New Zealand's doing it.
	Australia's doing it.
	Yeah, New Zealand did the Christchurch declaration, didn't they?
	Where they wanted to crack down on online hate.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And these are all convenient reasons as to why we need to crack down on hate.
	Whether Andrew Tate knows he's a byproduct of that, I don't know.
	But I think he's very much the matrix that he talks about, personally.
	So thankfully the experts have weighed in at the end of this article.
	"Dr. Williams is concerned that the young boys who share extreme views don't think about the consequence and impact on others or their future careers.
	But she warned it was vital that equality was not just for women, but men as well, because it is still skewed towards women, which could brainwash frustrated young men.
	I think it's really important that the message we give is that society is equal.
	It's important for men to feel protected, and it could be we're still working on that equality for young men." Let's say here that she's not just an ideologue and she's actually trying to solve the problem, right?
	Let's be really charitable.
	Young men don't want equality, but we want compatibility and difference from very feminine women who we would like to work to be excellent enough to earn and then take care of.
	So to try and solve this problem by trying to level out the gender differences even more and dispossess young men from their role in society of working hard and making noble sacrifices isn't going to work.
	And you're just going to drive them more towards the outlandish spendthriftness without any family that Tate's putting on wine.
	So it's not going to work.
	Yeah, I agree, actually.
	The more equal you try and make things, the worse it gets.
	And interestingly, Jordan Peterson spoke about a number of studies and actually...
	So the Swedish studies?
	Yeah, there was a Swedish study.
	There was another one as well, and I actually was looking at these studies for my university work, and it found that in countries that have less gender equality, the differences between men and women in terms of, you know, the roles that they take in society are actually less different.
	But when you get to our societies that focus very much on gender equality, the bigger the difference actually between men and women in terms of desires and behavioural traits, which It goes to show, the more you try and manufacture this whole idea of equality, the greater the difference actually becomes.
	And then you create people that become attracted to people like Andrew Tate.
	Become attracted to someone who sees them as a modern warlord.
	You know, he epitomises what it is to be a man, which is more things and multiple biatches.
	I actually don't think that epitomises...
	I don't think a harem and a Bugatti speaks to manhood.
	I think it's quite hollow existence.
	It is, it is.
	Speaking of hollow existences, how about what women are being taught these days to do, right?
	So if we go to this one, the rise of far-right female influences...
	I'll talk about you!
	Great!
	So we have two clips from Vice here.
	So this video conflates Georgia Maloney, Marine Le Pen and Lauren Southern with the likes of Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer.
	So actual white nationalists.
	So you can see where the angle is coming from from the off.
	But let's watch this first clip.
	You know, traditionally attractive woman with blonde hair and, you know, a red lip.
	It somehow isn't, it's supposed to seem less odious when they talk about, you know, white superiority, but it's about putting up a certain veneer.
	It's also absolutely about recruitment.
	Yes, it's certainly true that the presence of women kind of humanizes and also almost justifies a movement.
	Yeah, it makes it softer to hear.
	It's easier for people to hear a hard message when it's a soft, good-looking woman saying it.
	Showing the ways in which, you know, there's actually more familiarity, more similarity, you know, between, you know, what the far-right believes and what mainstream conservatives believe, I think, is really crucial.
	There's one key demographic in particular to whom female far-right influencers appear to have a special appeal, and that's other women.
	The majority of white women voted for Trump, so I think the media is trying to spin it that, oh my god, all these women are feminists now.
	I think the majority are not feminists, and when you actually talk to women and say, well, what does that really mean?
	You find that the majority of them are actually quite traditional.
	The irony is that Locktiff and other far-right influencers spend much of their time railing against the feminist movement that won women the right to a public political voice in the first place.
	I think of women back then not being able to vote and having the whole one house, one vote thing.
	Why would you marry a man who wouldn't vote in your best interest or you wouldn't agree with politically to begin with?
	They sort of position themselves or they have this posture of, as a woman, I can speak to what feminism really is.
	women who feel threatened by it, women who don't see a place for themselves.
	They think that feminism has made the world a worse place.
	They think that it is ultimately an anti-woman project.
	They also describe partnership and motherhood as political action.
	Because when your whole project is about guaranteeing the future of whiteness, fulfilling all of that is a matter of politics.
	Dominique, as an obviously white woman.
	laughter Do you feel like your rejection of feminism is to perpetuate whiteness?
	No, I don't, actually.
	Funny that, funny that.
	But, again, all of that was just completely ridiculous.
	But I will say that the idea of getting married and having a child nowadays is political.
	I don't think it's to further whiteness, but I think it's to further sanity.
	Because there is, you know, whether you like it or not, the truth is there is an attack on motherhood and there is an attack on marriage and family.
	When we talk about feminism, obviously I believe that, you know, I agree with the right of women to vote.
	I think that was amazing.
	I wouldn't be able to have a platform and speak as freely as I do without a lot of those advancements.
	But we've come away from simply wanting to be treated, you know, as adults with a functioning brain.
	We've now turned to actively attacking and hating men.
	And also this idea that we don't just want to be, you know, seen as equal to men, we want to be better than men, and men must be subjugated.
	We want to work like men, we want to be slaves to massive corporations like men.
	And sadly, what we see is, it's not actually made women happier, it's made women more dissatisfied, Old, dying alone.
	And this is what Kevin Samuels talks about a lot.
	And we're not happier.
	So surely, and statistics show this, we're not happier.
	So surely, we should be investigating some of the reasons why.
	And sadly, the reason why is because of this toxic, modern feminism that I think has destroyed relationships between men and women and continue to destroy them.
	So if that's perpetuating whiteness, then cool.
	LAUGHTER That's going to get clipped.
	I don't know.
	Well, I think this is the root and branch.
	This is why they try to conflate with the suffrage movement, even though the suffrage movement literally bombed postboxes, but neither here nor there.
	The second wave feminists were explicitly trying to destroy the family.
	I mean, I don't know if you've had the misfortune of having to read Simone de Beauvoir's The Second Sex, which they call the Feminist Bible.
	1,500 pages of absolute tripe.
	At one point, she says, we need to abolish property and the patriarchal family in order to fully liberate women from So her goal was explicitly to, and she also said that logic in masculine hands is violence.
	Women believe stories more.
	And if you look at her footnotes, it's all about, like, case studies and stories.
	So she's admitting, I'm going to lie to women in order to abolish property and create socialism and abolish the family so we voluntarily stop reproducing across the human race.
	And that's why she told Betty Friedan, who was a sort of second-wave feminist in America who said that women should have the choice whether to work or have kids, She told her, well, we can't let them have that choice, because some women will make the choice of being mothers, and we can't be having that, so we need to take that away from them.
	And that's not feminism.
	And it's interesting you mention that, because this whole idea that we need to take that choice away, you're reminding me of all my university reading, actually.
	It's sort of based upon this idea that women, because, according to them, we've been so conditioned into this, you know, patriarchal way of thinking.
	False consciousness.
	Yeah, we actually can't be autonomous or make autonomous decisions.
	That came from Beauvoir.
	Oh, right.
	I must have read it.
	I must not remember the name.
	But yeah, we can't make autonomous decisions because we're just basically brainwashed, essentially.
	So therefore, we must be controlled, which is funny seeing as...
	You know, feminism really is about relinquishing women from the shackles of men and the patriarchy, but that's just applying shackles just with a different person applying them, which just so happens to be another woman.
	You're trading the kitchen apron for a pussy hat, yet you're stolen to someone's fool.
	Exactly.
	It's funny how it always comes down to someone having more power than you and controlling your choices.
	For those women who do choose to be mothers, you are apparently an evil white supremacist.
	Let's play a second clip, shall we?
	Alongside the anti-feminist rhetoric from influencers has been the growth of an entire online subculture known as tradwives, who actively reject pursuing their own careers or independence in favor of raising families and submitting to their husbands.
	Dude, don't listen to this narrative of feminism that is killing white Western society.
	Don't buy into it.
	The trad movement is this movement to celebrate women who are in traditional roles.
	You are creating content that celebrates, that highlights How good the trad life is.
	It's making traditional gender roles seem appealing, seem cool, seem a part of the future.
	But if you really spend time with it and you look at some of these, you know, Instagram accounts or TikToks, what you'll realize is it's as much about what it's against as what it's for.
	Thank you for not being ashamed to be traditional, to be Christian, to be conservative, and to be white.
	I'm feminine, not feminist, right?
	And so, seeding these ideas that you know you want to be like me, you know, look how great my life is, children love me, men love me, like, look how celebrated I am in comparison to, right?
	You'll start to see the ways in which being trad is also about being anti-something.
	Not just pro-tradition, but anti-progress.
	No role could be more important in the far right than being someone who is willing to uphold a society of traditional gender roles and to have children and raise children within that society.
	Is this supposed to be bad?
	Yeah, I know.
	God forbid you be loved.
	I mean...
	God forbid you raise children in a family.
	I don't think she realised how...
	Yeah, it's meant to dissuade you from wanting to do it.
	It doesn't really work.
	She just sounds stupid.
	And also, for all the listeners, she doesn't look like someone you'd want to emulate.
	No.
	Compared to the wholesome 50s housewives who, and of course they're always going to say, oh, they were lobotomised, they were so drugged up.
	I don't know how widespread that is.
	What about them medicating themselves because they were depressed and stuff?
	That's the accusation.
	This also seems like the opinions of atomised millennials who have never spoken to women of that generation.
	Thankfully, both my grandparents are still alive.
	They had relatively large families.
	One even came from an immigrant background.
	And they've said, yeah, you know what?
	We were actually way poorer than you were, even though...
	The World Economic Forum is reversing trends that way.
	But we were free.
	And we struggled upwards through privation, in council houses, moving out of the East End, having families.
	And that was the best times of our lives.
	And what we would wish is for you guys to be slightly less materially prosperous, but to be as free and have those small little families that we had, rather than be dancing on TikTok for the viewing of A public that don't really care about you.
	Not great.
	It's sad.
	Genuinely sad.
	Especially when you have people like that completely mischaracterising it.
	And, you know, of course there are the Andrew Tates of, you know, sort of trad female.
	There is that.
	But I think that you shouldn't misrepresent the whole idea of having a family, of having a husband, of having a wife.
	You can't misrepresent that as just white supremacy.
	What?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, there's some African tribesmen out that don't have the internet, but have lots of kids that would like to speak to you.
	Yeah, like, are they white supremacists?
	It's just stupid.
	So, if we go on to the last one, please.
	This is a problem, though, I will say.
	And that is that that 50s housewife aesthetic has been unmoored from the responsibility of being married and having a family, and has been turned into basically a skin suit that says to women...
	You can be that stay-at-home girlfriend, but you don't actually have anything to look after besides some cats.
	And I don't think that's very wholesome.
	So if we could play this last TikTok.
	Wow, okay.
	This is the only time I'll ever say that.
	If we can play the clip, please, John.
	Day of my life as a stay-at-home girlfriend.
	I first did my skincare routine.
	Then I did some ice rolling and some journaling.
	And I made the bed.
	Then Luke and I got out and picked up some celery juice and then went to his favorite latte place.
	Then we came home and I made myself a matcha latte and checked some emails, replied to some texts.
	Then I went for a walk to my Pilates studio and made myself some breakfast.
	Then I did a lot of laundry folding and then I steamed my dress that I'm gonna wear for tonight.
	Took Luke to the gym.
	When I came home I cut up some veggies to snack on and then I heated up some soup for the So, what's missing from this picture?
	You tell me.
	The kids.
	Why are you a stay-at-home girlfriend?
	Should be wife.
	Come on, get on it, mate.
	What is a stay-at-home girlfriend?
	I'm still not...
	It's a stay-at-home wife, but as the article says, with none of the legal bindings of marriage or children.
	Right, so it's just legal, right?
	Okay, so God forbid you be responsible or actually, like, attached to someone and invested.
	No, no, you haven't got a piece of paper hanging over your head like a sword of Damocles ready to drop at any minute.
	The entire point of the stay-at-home wife archetype is you're meant to be a homemaker for the kids.
	So stop wearing the artifice of wholesomeness when you don't have any investment in the future.
	When you just clearly don't have a job.
	This is truly important to me as well.
	It's like, what happens if we split up?
	Because she's now got no years of career experience.
	So even as a modern woman, what are you going to do?
	I don't have a job.
	I just, I put on some shoes.
	Whoa!
	I saw a butterfly.
	And what was interesting as well, when she was filming them, like, coming out of the gate, like, they obviously had to walk back and check they'd filmed it correctly.
	Like, it's just so...
	Ridiculous.
	It's performative.
	And I agree with you.
	And this is because I'm obviously at the advent of, you know, your TikTok and your other forms of social media that just really encourage this sort of vapid way of living.
	And there is no such thing as a stay-at-home girlfriend.
	I'm just going to say you're just a girl without a job.
	Yep.
	Have some kids, get married, do something wholesome.
	I know, do something.
	So, Rory foresaw this, and if you subscribe to our website, you can read articles like this, and this one has done some real numbers.
	I had the pleasure of proofreading this before it went out, and I knew this thumbnail was coming, and it's fantastic.
	And he does make the case of, of course, it's better than being a whore on the digital red light district of OnlyFans.
	That's a low bar, though.
	It's not going to save civilization if you're just trad posting on Twitter.
	Yes, it's better that women follow a more wholesome archetype, but you shouldn't just follow this for the performativity of social media.
	You should be virtuous by the fact that you are embodying the behaviors, not just acting them out as you go along and hoping to catch up to it.
	And also, you know, the fact that you're a stay-at-home girlfriend, however, the man that you're with hasn't actually made that commitment.
	You're not even engaged.
	He hasn't even made that sort of long-term commitment.
	You're dropping off at the gym like you're his mother.
	Yeah, you're just wasting your time.
	And really, it sort of...
	It gives men an excuse because there has to be an equal balance here.
	You have to be prepared to fill that role, to be the homemaker, have the kids, but he should also be prepared to actually make that commitment and actually provide a direction for where it's going to go.
	And women will be far more attracted to you if you aren't their mother.
	Exactly.
	When you aren't their mother.
	Yeah, just very weird.
	Very weird dynamic there.
	Some simple advice.
	Don't do your entire relationship for the cameras.
	Get married.
	Have some kids.
	I know it's expensive these days, but your grandparents did it through much harsher times.
	I saw this meme thing, actually, and it said, you think having kids are expensive now, wait till you find out how expensive being old and alone is.
	And I think that's a very, very good point.
	Being old with no one to take care of you, that's far more expensive.
	It's a lonely 40 after 40 without a family around you.
	On with the video comments, then.
	I feel like at the root of feminism and all this nonsense is a critique of the female narrative leading to its collapse.
	If the classical female narrative is Beauty and the Beast, success is determined by the taming of a man.
	Thus, your happiness is intrinsic upon somebody else.
	Somebody who could change their mind, who could beat you, cheat on you, leave you, etc.
	And I think that feminism is a culmination of that anxiety and rage.
	At its core, it asserts that to be a woman is a tragedy, and so is it any wonder they hate men while trying to steal their narrative?
	I think I did say this as well to Nick when we were talking about, we did a podcast on dating advice quite a while ago.
	Guys have an obligation, especially at university, where you can sleep around without much responsibility, to not create resentful feminists by poisoning the well.
	Because if you sell a woman love to get sex and then just drop her like that, you're sending off an emotional suicide bomber into some other dude's life.
	Oh, yeah.
	And you're just gonna be...
	You're just going to be perpetuating the exact kind of resentful feminists that you would never want to date.
	That's a good point, actually.
	But then at the same time, I think that women also have to take some responsibility for that because you attract what...
	You attract what you put out.
	And if you are putting out the energy of someone who is broken, has issues that they need to resolve, and then as a result are very much open to casual sex, those are the kinds of guys that you're going to attract.
	So like, you know, at one point I was sort of like the whole men are trash thing just because it was popular in my group of friends.
	But in reality, men aren't trash.
	It's just the sort of men that you're choosing, whether unconsciously or not.
	Yeah, and also, ladies, be careful who you bring home because you don't know who they really are until you're alone with them.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, exercise some caution out there and you might find someone good for you.
	So, some of the written comments.
	Grant, thanks for stopping by, Dominique.
	Always nice to hear a fresh voice on the show.
	Thank you.
	Love to have you back.
	JJHW, sightless positive one.
	Dominique was doing well until she admitted to being from Manchester.
	Oh, I'm proud of being from Manchester, thank you.
	And I will say, I always say this to, I'm guessing you're Southern, right?
	Yep.
	Northerners and people from Manchester, you could say, I think we actually pronounce our words properly.
	You know, how they're phonetically supposed to sound.
	How do you say Bath?
	Bath.
	But, you know...
	Inexcusable.
	No, phonetically, the letter A, lowercase, is A, and we say Bath, so that's how it's supposed to sound.
	You know what?
	When Sturgeon gets her independence referendum, I know she just takes you with her.
	Well, wherever, you know...
	Anywhere north of London is the north.
	I would rather say Bath than Borth, because it's not...
	It doesn't have an R in it, okay?
	Thank you.
	So, on the first segment, Free Will 2112.
	How not to run a society?
	Take all the worst ideas of Stalin, Mao and Hitler, blend in the worst ideas of 1984, Brave New World, Blade Runner and The Matrix, and then implement them.
	Dystopias weren't meant to be a handbook, something tells me.
	I don't know about that.
	What do you mean?
	Oh, I don't know.
	Like, I don't know if you've ever heard of like, oh, I'm going to put my tin for heart on.
	But I just think it's interesting, the whole idea of sort of like predictive programming.
	Yes.
	It's sort of how like, you know, the whole meme about Simpsons sort of predicting everything that actually happened.
	Yeah, it's not like the intelligence agencies tell Hollywood how to portray them.
	Yeah, it just makes me think, is it just an accident or, you know...
	They're priming us to accept it.
	Yeah, because Hollywood is a big part of that.
	I'm just putting that out there.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, it wasn't like in the 30s and 40s that they were all ran by communists and now we're all being told, oh, it was McCarthyism, it was a witch hunt.
	Well, no, witches weren't real, but communists were.
	Yeah.
	So, some food for thought.
	Yeah, just some food.
	Wolf, anyone can pay to artificially gestate a child.
	How could that go wrong?
	Epstein has entered the chat.
	That's what I said.
	I literally was saying that.
	I said that yesterday.
	I said, right, you know, like with child trafficking and all that.
	Why would you, and I know this is a bit graphic, but like, why would you go to the lengths of like kidnapping all these kids?
	Why would you not just have a pod in your heart?
	Yeah, why not just grow all of them?
	Seriously.
	That's an interesting point, actually.
	Can you just take the child to any development stage you would like?
	Like, could you just birth a five-year-old?
	Oh, shit.
	Probably could.
	Okay, right, we've officially scared ourselves a little bit.
	The rabbit hole.
	General Highping, were you guys born free-range or factory-farmed?
	It's actually going to be a question eventually.
	Someone online, one of our female viewers actually, hopefully an upside of the Brave New World wombs is that undeveloped preemies, so premature babies, can be saved by putting in a new womb where they can finish growing their lungs.
	Good news, yes.
	Instead of tearing an unwanted baby apart, women can put the baby in a separate womb.
	The body might still treat the removal like a miscarriage and lead to depression, but it's better than killing the kid.
	Sure, I don't want to create permissive culture that says, well, you could have bought it or just stick it in a box and let someone else have it.
	Maybe you should just be a mother and not sacrifice your child to the Mayan gods.
	See, the surrogacy industry will be fully destroyed and vulnerable women will no longer be exploited by it.
	Unfortunately, the kids being bought in the same way as designer handbags will continue.
	Of course, it's a pipe dream that anything good will be done by this, but the possible upsides are some quality copium.
	Yeah, there are upsides to many things, but you've got to think of it proportionally.
	On balance, will it be used for more bad than good?
	Probably, so therefore it just shouldn't be a thing.
	Free will.
	The Charity Commission could probably do with some serious scrutiny too, and if we had a government that was diligent and had its eye on the ball, it would sadly.
	Yeah, the Charity Commission are run by open socialists.
	We, back when I used to work with BCA, tried to do the Charity Commission multiple times, and we were shut down because our acting president had an op-ed against Extinction Rebellion.
	Meanwhile, the Marxist Library was receiving government funding.
	Wow.
	Not great.
	Good joke.
	Ewan, Diane Abbott probably pocketed the money to buy more odd shoes.
	I wouldn't say that, isn't it?
	Andrew, can't begin to say how blessed I feel to be married and not caught up in this insane dating culture these days.
	God have mercy on the younger generations.
	Yeah, I do feel a lot of sympathy, specifically with our audience at Express.
	Well, I feel pushed into online dating after two years of lockdown.
	Oh yeah, not for me though.
	It's just populated by single mothers with Never Kiss a Tory t-shirts.
	What the hell do I do?
	Seriously, and also, like, I don't know, there's just something very different about...
	Meeting someone in person, because I think it's about a lot more than how someone looks.
	And the danger with all these online dating apps is that you really are focused on how people look and not who they are as a person.
	And I find myself, I found myself when I used to use them, like just, you know, swiping on all these people, but they're never really engaging in the conversation because it's like, I don't know who you are.
	You have an active disincentive to plumb further because they've presented you with this superficial screenshot of their best selves.
	And beyond that, There's nothing really else to go with.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And it's like, that's why I've never really just made any effort with it.
	And so many of my friends that do properly delve into online dating, and one friend in particular just goes on loads and loads of these pointless dates.
	And I'm just like, maybe it's time to just delete the app.
	Yeah, maybe just go to a function where you're going to meet someone with shared interests.
	Exactly!
	I know it's a stereotype, but you could do worse than a judge.
	Exactly.
	There we go.
	Dominique, thank you very much for coming on the show.
	Where can people find you?
	I'm everywhere.
	You can find me on Twitter at Dominique Tagan, T-A-E-G-O-N, in case you don't know how to spell that, but it's more than like you won't be able to spell my first name, but it's probably there.
	Anyway, you can find me at Getter, Dominique Tagan again, and Instagram, Dominique T. Samuels.
	Oh, there I am!
	Do you get to live streams, by the way?
	I do.
	I do them twice a week now, Tuesdays and Wednesdays at 8pm.
	Fantastic.
	But I'm doing one tonight, I hate, because I couldn't do one yesterday, so tune in.
	Brilliant.
	Right, go over and watch after you finish catching up on our show if you're an audio listener.
	Oh, there I am.
	Until tomorrow, we'll be back at one o'clock.
	Thank you very much for joining us.

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