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Feb. 9, 2021 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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	Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the podcast of Lotus Eaters for Tuesday, the 9th of February, 2021.
	I'm John B. Callum, and before we start, we have a new premium article up by one of my favourites, Dr.
	Michael Rectonwald.
	He became quite infamous during the 2016 presidential cycle because he outed himself as a deplorable professor, a Trump-supporting professor, which, as you might imagine, hasn't been very popular in academia, and there have been several attempts to cancel him, harass him, etc., etc.
	And he's a professor of philosophy, so he knows what he's talking about, which is all the more reason why they despise him, which is all the more reason why I definitely got him to write something for us.
	He's explaining the re-emergence of leftist totalitarianism in this article.
	It's really, really good.
	He explains basically where it comes from in the left, what causes it, why it's essentially inevitable, and why it's re-emerged now.
	And I think it's totally worth your time.
	And we're also going to be having a few other premium articles this week.
	We've got Hannah Gall coming up on Thursday, is it?
	Yeah, I think she wants that free though, so I think that should be free.
	Is it free?
	No, I wanted to make premium.
	But we're also, after this podcast, we'll be recording the Marcus Aurelius Book Club.
	Myself and Hugo will be doing this, talking about meditations.
	Long awaited.
	Finally got around to doing it, and I'm looking forward to doing that.
	that but anyway let's uh let's get into the insufferable hypocrisy of the elite uh this this is of course a reference to the weirdo super bowl performance that i watched yesterday and i mean for any americans watching right no one watches the super bowl no one outside of america watches it so we don't know anything about it we don't have any particular frame of reference we see Occasionally, but it's not like on TV here.
	No, it's like you see it on social media.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And so I watched like, you know, The Weeknd's performance, like 15 minute performance in the middle of it.
	And I just don't know what the hell I'm looking at anymore.
	I am so disconnected from pop culture.
	I'm just looking at this thinking, how is this an advert, right?
	So this was a screenshot I took from the background of the initial part.
	Where the guy's performing in front of a neon city, and it's so weird because it makes it look so unappealing.
	I mean, look how, like, can we go back to the other one?
	Sorry, John.
	Look how, like, it's weird, it's smoky, and it's got, like, all these neon buildings.
	And on the buildings, I couldn't exactly see what was written on the buildings, but I think, as someone replies there, I think it says, Alone You're Enough.
	It's like, that's a weird message, isn't it?
	Come to this big smoky city where you'll be alone, but that'll be okay.
	And it's like, but why would I want that?
	Why is that desirable?
	Why would I want to be just lost in some city?
	And I say lost because we get to the next one, right?
	He does this part of the performance where he's in what looks like a representation, artistic representation of like city streets with the neon signs.
	And in, I didn't take the screenshot of the part I'm about to refer to, but in this, he's walking around like he's lost in all these, like, this maze of glowing signs.
	And then a bunch of other people dress the same as him, but with like, I don't know, weird white face masks, start barging past them and stuff like this as if it's like really confusing and it's bright.
	You know, you're alone and you're afraid.
	It's like, how is this a good advert for the environment you guys live in?
	Right.
	Because you as an artist, I'm not an artist, but I understand the artists write what they know and they can they can talk from personal experience, which is why you get art from adversity.
	You know, if you've gone through something harrowing, you explain it to other people through the medium of art.
	And so it's like, OK, what what are we looking at with these people?
	And it's like, right.
	So you've got like these like cookie cutter cities where they're basically all the same.
	They're smoky and dark when they're not unbelievably bright and crowded with people.
	And then, it goes on to the next one, which I just found was just amazing, right?
	It goes out onto the field after going through this thing, and then all of the weirdo guys dressed in masks start doing some sort of fascist march.
	In the in the pitch and at this point I'm just like all these you know glowing red lights dudes dressed in red with their faces covered doing a fascist march and I'm sorry okay I have no idea what the hell this is meant to represent but if this is like their world and the environment they live in I'll settle for you know going for my walks in the countryside thanks and then going home to my kids like I Don't envy this at all.
	It actually kind of reminds me of the 2012 Olympic opening ceremony, in opposite.
	I don't know if you remember, but part of the opening ceremony was showing off the fields of England, and then the Industrial Revolution happens, and the industrialists come in and build the industrial side.
	But it makes the fields of England look amazing in response.
	This is the exact opposite.
	Yeah, well, that's the thing.
	What are these people offering you?
	And it seems to be being alone, being confused, and being surrounded by a bunch of Nazis.
	So, okay, well, no thank you.
	I appreciate the offer, but no thank you.
	But anyway, so the hypocrisy begins, naturally, because the mayor of Tampa, Florida, Jane Castor, the Super Bowl was held in Tampa, Florida.
	I don't know.
	Well, people not wearing masks.
	Yeah, but I didn't realize it was a mandate in Florida.
	I thought Florida had fairly lax rules when it came to masks and things like that.
	But okay, thanks.
	You're going to be tyrannized by the state.
	And of all things, she was photoed at a recent sporting event with no mask on.
	Is she going to get got by the police?
	She's going to have to arrest herself, I suppose.
	Exactly.
	Nothing's going to happen.
	Again, more boundless hypocrisy.
	And the facial recognition software is pretty terrifying, the way it's becoming.
	Like, this video from China, where someone can get something authorized out of a vending machine using facial recognition software.
	Meaning, as Amuse has pointed out here, that you could be deplatformed from money if you're below the social credit score in China.
	And this is the kind of thing like not wearing a face mask.
	Oh, you're below the social credit score.
	Now the police are going to come and get you.
	But that doesn't apply to your rulers, of course, because it's not one rule for all.
	It's one rule for one and one rule for you.
	So good news.
	But they're a private business who run the vending machines.
	They can do what they want.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	But anyway, it's just a merger between state and corporate power.
	Stop complaining.
	I don't know what your problem is.
	Anyway, so carrying on from the weird, like, fallouts from this Super Bowl thing, again, looking at it purely as an outsider.
	This I found hilarious from Vice magazine, was complaining because Dolly Parton had done a song in it, and she'd kind of repackaged it.
	It's nine to five.
	She'd repackaged it, I guess, sponsored by Squarespace.
	a bit of a side hustle with Squarespace and make some extra money.
	And this was like, oh my God, how dare you suggest that people could do a side hustle?
	It's like, well, you're making extra money outside of your job.
	That's a good thing.
	It means you can save up money and you can start a business.
	You can buy that thing you want.
	You can go on holiday.
	I don't know.
	You know, you do whatever it is you want with your extra money because you earn some extra money.
	But the complaint, obviously, is actually, if economics had kept pace since 1968, the minimum wage would be $24 an hour today.
	$24 an hour?
	Who the hell can afford that?
	The prices of food, have they risen in line with that sort of wage?
	I don't think I make $24 an hour.
	So it's like, what the hell?
	But anyway, the common complaint, obviously, from the leftists is people can work hard to make money and therefore they don't need the state.
	That's bad.
	Moving on.
	There's a guy called Tom Brady who apparently won the Super Bowl.
	I don't know what's so great about the bowl and I don't know what he's going to put in it.
	But I've heard it's super.
	But the problem, of course, as you can see from the picture, he's white.
	He's white.
	It is.
	I mean, that is the problem, fundamentally.
	Because in America, it's currently Black History Month.
	A white man won the Super Bowl during Black History Month, and he isn't going to give the bowl to a black charity or something.
	As you mentioned, the shortest month of the year.
	The shortest month of the year.
	Just no joy.
	He's also wearing a little bit of blackface there, I noticed.
	Yeah, I'm surprised that wasn't called out, actually.
	But there are loads of tweets that Paul Joseph Watson has just accumulated in this article that's worth reading some of them.
	During Black History Month, what a racist.
	Something about this feels racist.
	So yeah, something about a white man winning a sporting event during Black History Month feels racist.
	That's you, mate.
	That's on you.
	That's your thought process there.
	Because these things are not connected in any way, shape, or form.
	They're nothing to do with one another.
	But you are looking at this through the lens of a racist, and you're just like, hmm, that guy's white.
	I have a problem with that.
	Is he the guy with the MAGA cap as well?
	He was.
	He was pictured with the MAGA cap.
	So is that part of it, maybe, you think?
	It wasn't in their complaint, but if they knew about that, well, that'd just be confirmation that he's a racist, wouldn't he?
	We found his clanhood.
	Yeah, well, there we go.
	That's how they view it.
	That is exactly how they view it.
	But anyway, yeah, so this, again, I think he was just delineating between the sort of urban elite and the non-urban common folk.
	And this is something that the hedge fund billionaires have clocked onto.
	So, like I was saying about the harmonization of the narratives, I do think it's the same forces that's driving everything.
	And so when hedge fund billionaire Ray Dalio says that the GameStop frenzy was really about wealth inequality, about class warfare, Yeah, you're right.
	And one of the things that the GameStop uprising showed is that it is one rule for one and one rule for another.
	They deliberately changed the rules in order to protect certain hedge funds, despite the fact that that's not how the game is supposed to be played.
	But he says...
	I'm not sure I agree with the idea of class warfare, because as pointed out before, it wasn't a divide based on class, it was a divide based on corruption.
	Elon Musk was on the side of the smaller guys.
	The class isn't about money.
	Maybe.
	Definitely.
	If you want to phrase it like that, but I'm not sure I'd call Wall Street types a class of their own in the traditional sense that we use upper and lower class.
	If you want to group them and call them a class as a new definition, that would work.
	A class of people can be defined in practically any way you want, as long as it's a shared, unifying characteristic.
	It doesn't have to be about wealth.
	For example, Donald Trump...
	I mean, the left would really call him a class traitor, because he sided with the regular folk against the elite.
	And you can see why.
	Like, look at his mannerisms.
	Look at the way he talks.
	But he's still not one of the working class.
	Well, you say that, but actually, he kind of is.
	Like, he might be on their side.
	It's not just that he's on their side.
	He speaks to them in their language as well.
	Yeah, but this is Tucker Carlson.
	I mean, even you say that Tucker Carlson is not a working-class guy by his own admission.
	Yeah, Tucker Carlson is not a working-class guy by his own admission.
	But also, personality-wise, he's not a working-class guy.
	He doesn't do working-class things.
	Tucker Carlson wouldn't have silver platters of Big Macs.
	But Trump did, right?
	I honestly don't think Trump is actually very different at all to the working class people.
	He just happens to be a lot wealthier.
	But if you look at him culturally and the sort of way he views America and the world, he's exactly the same as these people, which is why they like him.
	In fact, they love him.
	But the distinction, it is classes.
	It's not necessarily about wealth, though, as you say.
	It's really about being an insider and being an outsider.
	And it's the outsider saying, well, look, you know, we don't care if you're insiders, but the rules should be the rules as for the entire thing.
	And the insider saying, well, we're the ones who control the application of the rules.
	And so if we want them to apply to you, they will.
	If you want them to apply to us, well, that's at our discretion, which is precisely what, you know, the woman not wearing the mask at the ballgame or whatever it was, and then saying, well, we'll get facial recognition software onto you.
	Unless she arrests herself, then we have further proof of this.
	But this is what Ray Dalio says.
	He says, the big thing is, whereas short squeezes are just part of the game, the system doesn't work for most people, so it needs to be re-engineered.
	Otherwise, we're going to have a civil war.
	And he also says, he's the co-chief of Bridgewater Associates, the world's largest hedge fund with over $150 billion in assets.
	And he says, I can relate to these guys.
	I would have been there with them doing the same thing.
	So it's not even that he disputes their moral claims here.
	The question is, you know, do we really want to kill each other?
	That's what worries me.
	Of course he is.
	And he personally wasn't really worried about the GameStop squeeze.
	He pointed out the real big money wasn't involved, as far as he knows.
	So this was kind of a...
	In the grand scheme of, like, you know, Wall Street, this was a fairly small sideshow, really.
	And, you know, relatively speaking...
	Yeah, but still a sizable chunk.
	Yeah, but more importantly, it puts the rest of them on notice, which is why he's saying, well, look, this attitude, this will that's underpinning this, this is the will of the Civil War, and so we need to talk about why this is going to happen.
	And is it the system that's the problem?
	It's not really the system that's actually the problem.
	It's really the application of the rules by the people running the system.
	You know, the system theoretically is set up to create a fairly coherent sort of one rule for all, right?
	That's...
	It's meant to be the case, and that's why the GameStop, the WallStreetBets guys, could do something against these hedge funds, you know, because the rules were there, and you just didn't think people were going to notice, and then when they did, you should have just taken the L and moved on.
	You know, the rest of WallStreet maybe should have gone, okay, we'll take the L, and we'll just carry on as we should.
	But instead, they haven't, and that's why this guy's like, well, look, this is like Civil War territory.
	Yeah, it is.
	You know, when people feel that...
	Like, open corruption is not going to be addressed, then yeah, you're exactly in that problem.
	And that's exactly where we come to with Biden.
	So, I mean, look at the way that Wikipedia talks about the Biden-Ukraine conspiracy theory.
	It's not a conspiracy theory.
	We know, we know that Joe Biden admitted that he put pressure on Ukraine to fire a prosecutor who is investigating Hunter Biden with the threat of withholding like a billion dollars in aid from the US. He was at a Council of Foreign Relations meeting and just said it.
	Just came out and admitted it.
	We have Hunter Biden on video admitting to ABC News that if his surname wasn't Biden, he wouldn't be getting 50k a month on the board of Burisma.
	We have him admitting this.
	So this is pure nepotism at this point.
	And it's this kind of open corruption that is driving people mad.
	Like, the next one, New York Post, the previously denied, where Biden, Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, Joe Biden specifically had said, oh, I've never met with any Ukrainian businessman or anything like that.
	Well, the Hunter Biden emails showed that he did.
	He absolutely did.
	It's categoric.
	And then when you go to the next one, the Hunter Biden laptop story, which is what this comes from, this got censored, this got suppressed, this would have affected the vote.
	We find out that Biden's getting millions from Chinese companies.
	Again, suppressed.
	It's like, look, everyone can see this.
	You know, this isn't a secret.
	And then you get Joe Biden coming out and saying stuff like, oh, I'm not exactly going to go hard on Xi Jinping.
	We'll be competitive, he says.
	But I'm going to take a very different approach to Trump.
	Okay, but Trump was a very adversarial approach that was actually getting stuff done.
	You know, declaring a trade war on China.
	Joe Biden's not going to do that at all.
	Of course not.
	He's being paid by China.
	We know he's being paid by China.
	So, okay.
	So, you have an incredibly clear divide with this hypocritical elite that are openly corrupt and applying rules to you...
	That they don't abide by.
	It's untenable.
	It's an untenable situation and can't go on.
	And so there's been this clip going around of Biden getting booed at the Super Bowl, which I have to say I think is actually fake news.
	But we'll just play a bit of the clip.
	Wear masks.
	Stay socially distanced.
	Get tested.
	Get vaccinated when it's your turn.
	And most of all, let's remember all those who we've lost...
	So please join us, Kansas City Chiefs, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the National Football League, in a moment of silence for the more than 440,000 Americans who lost their lives in this pandemic and for their loved ones left behind.
	So the reason that sounded sus is because I don't know whether you could hear it, but there's a point where the booing just stops abruptly for about a second or so, which makes it sound like it was edited in, right?
	And, I mean, I would like to have been able to come out and say, see, here are the people booing Joe Biden, but that may not have been true.
	Snopes has said that it's unproven, which is fair, to be honest.
	It seems to be unproven, and I am in doubt...
	But that really, you know, doesn't matter.
	It doesn't change any of the other things.
	And of course, returning to the Time article from the other day, which again, everyone should be talking about.
	Now, I can't help but notice there's a surprising silence from Tucker Carlson on this, who's the person I've been waiting for input for on this.
	I'm very curious to hear on his take on this.
	The fact that he hasn't talked about it yet, as far as I'm aware, and if he has, send it to me, I find very interesting.
	But again, it's just like the mask can't slip if we just rip it off, and so here we are.
	What the elite are saying is that ethics is not something that needs to concern us, it is something that needs to concern you.
	And that's not something that can continue.
	That's going to cause problems.
	As we keep highlighting, like, this is not what we want, but I can't help but say that, like, it's going to end badly.
	It's going to end really badly.
	And this is what the Wall Street hedge fund manager is saying, that we're coming to civil war territory.
	Yeah, everything's looking bad.
	That it's the hypocrisy of the elites that's driving it.
	At any point, they can turn around and say, okay, well, maybe we have done one or two things that are wrong.
	But at this point, their entire narrative is we've never done anything wrong.
	What are you talking about?
	This is all conspiracy theories or nonsense or QAnon or whatever.
	It's like, all right.
	There is no conversation at that point.
	Yeah.
	And that's what leads to civil wars, frankly.
	It's been a conversation.
	So I wanted to talk about everyone missing Trump.
	Yes.
	So everyone's kind of, well, Trump got banned from Twitter and all the journos.
	And the presidency.
	And the presidency got banned from the presidency as well.
	Yet to be banned for the next one at the moment, I guess.
	That's what they're trying to do today.
	Later on today, it'll be.
	Yeah.
	So it comes out tomorrow.
	The media response to this has been interesting because, of course, most of their content has also been banned.
	It's not there anymore.
	What are you going to do?
	How do I find a news story now that I can't just consult Trump's Twitter?
	A lot of them are going to lose their jobs, I presume.
	I want to talk about this.
	CNN released some report.
	I think this is to their investors or is meant to be for investors.
	It's kind of hard to tell the way they phrase it.
	But this is them touting the fact that for January of this year, they've got a new record rating high.
	They're up in the ratings to the point that they've beaten Fox News.
	CNN smashes rating records.
	Has most watched month on record.
	Wow.
	Just keep in mind, when you're looking at this, imagine if Trump tweeted this.
	It fits perfectly.
	The way they talk about themselves.
	All caps.
	CNN ranks number one in cable news in January across the board.
	Also number one in all of cable in total day.
	Failing Fox News Network sucks.
	Huge losses.
	Total losers.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	It's weird the way they phrase it like that.
	Yeah, that is weird actually now that you point it out.
	But this is the first month in like, I think it's like 10-20 years that Fox News has not been at the top.
	So solidly they've always been at the top and they're very happy by the looks of it.
	They've finally beaten them for one month.
	There are a couple of reasons for this though.
	One of the reasons, I think, is that Fox News is essentially the only game in town when it came to right-wing media in America, whereas in America they've got CNN, ABC, MSNBC, and they've got a bunch of them, so naturally the audience is going to be dispersed.
	But there's also the unique problems Fox News has been having in their coverage of the election, let's say.
	So just looking at quarter four...
	Which has got people going over to One America News and Newsmax and things like that.
	Yeah.
	So this is quarter four just from some statistic website about who's watching what, you know, leading up to the end of last year.
	And you can see Fox News just at the top there for both...
	Well, I mean, if you added MSNBC and CNN together, they still wouldn't be equaling Fox News.
	Yeah, so they've always been touting it.
	But then the response to the election, a lot of people left Fox News in the sense they were upset with how they covered it.
	And this is what seems to actually show when you look at the statistics as presented.
	So the next one is a Forbes article touting the fact that Fox News has finally been beaten by CNN and MSNBC. But when you actually look into it, some of the statistics don't look as good as they're trying to make out.
	So they refer here to the fact that on inauguration day for Biden, Fox News got 2.2 million views.
	For President Trump, they got 8.8 million views.
	But this is sort of standard because it's a partisan outfit.
	It's Fox News.
	You wouldn't expect Fox News viewers to want to watch the inauguration of the most popular president ever.
	Yeah, so 2.2 for Fox News for Biden, where for CNN they got 7.9 million and MSC got 5.3 million.
	So, you know, massive more ratings for them.
	But compare that for a second, like CNN got 7.9, MSNBC 5.3, but Fox News got 8.8 back when they ran Trump's inauguration.
	So this is four years prior as well.
	They were still beating you in a single metric.
	Sure, if you add those two up, you could get it.
	Sure.
	But then the implication is that it's a team sport.
	Yeah.
	And who do we get to add up for Fox News as well?
	On Fox News' team, you've got all of the streamers and internet coverage and the sort of popular crowd who are also covering it, which is going to be tens of millions of views in and of itself.
	What was that website we found that had all the bubbles?
	I can't remember the name.
	Yeah, TransparencyTube.
	Yeah, so they're a better example for finding out on the internet as well.
	And it seemed to be that the partisan right, as they label it, were winning in the view count in total.
	Yeah, but it's much more dispersed.
	Because you have to add up all these tiny little bubbles.
	They just don't seem to exist on the left.
	It's large bubbles on the left.
	Anyway, a point for another time.
	No, no, that's a good point.
	So they also mention here that for the last week in January, Fox News returned as the top-rated news network for primetime averaging 2.6 viewers, and CNN and MSNBC's audience actually declined after the inauguration.
	So sure, overall they've actually won, but in the last, like, end of January, when everyone's kind of over that Biden bubble, they're actually shrinking back to their rightful positions.
	See, this goes exactly to the conversation we had just before we went live about your interests and what's good for you.
	I bet CNN, when they had those numbers, they were like, record numbers, this is good for us.
	I'm like, well, no, that's just satiating an immediate desire.
	And then afterwards, look at where you are.
	Yeah, like CNN being what it was once a long time ago, and then becoming a partisan Democrat network, to the point where they get called the Clinton News Network, running under Biden.
	We literally have the leaks from Project Veritas, where the guy in charge is telling them, we are just going to cover Trump, Trump-Russia, Trump-Russia, even when they're told it's not true, carry on covering it, because we want to hurt it.
	I mean, Van Jones was caught saying it was a nothing burger years ago.
	Years ago, he knew there was nothing to it.
	You know, right after reporting that it's a big burger.
	Yeah, exactly.
	There's something going on here.
	But one thing I love, and this is something I think is not made a big enough deal out of, is that Americans actually measure things in burgers.
	What?
	Well, there's a nothing burger.
	What is story?
	It is burger.
	It could be a double burger.
	I don't know.
	But it's a nothing burger.
	Anyway.
	Love you, Americans.
	But there's also the point here.
	So apparently Fox News returned to being top rated by the end of the month.
	Overall, they've lost.
	But there's the point, as you mentioned, where's OAN? Where's Newsmax?
	Yeah, we don't know.
	We don't know because they're much smaller.
	But it's where the Fox supporters who are leaving are going to.
	Yeah.
	Well, you say much slower.
	I mean, I've seen that they've been getting like 800,000 views and stuff like this.
	Smaller, relative to CNN. But even then, relatively speaking, they're going up and CNN is not going up.
	Yeah, so they've had this boost and apparently it's been a bit of a ratings disaster for CNN since.
	Like, it says that they went down in this article trying to dunk on Fox News.
	But how far down do you reckon?
	Yeah.
	I can't imagine it's been good.
	Yeah, so let's scroll down because there's a graph here showing the...
	So when politics dies down, everyone in talking about politics gets a loss.
	And if you can go a little bit further, I think there's a better graph here.
	Yeah, so this is the graph I want to talk about.
	You can see CNN there and Fox News and MSNBC. 44% down!
	Yeah, for those who can't see, CNN is, what would you say, that's an average?
	44%?
	Fox News at 8pm are 0.1% up.
	Fox News at 9% are 5% down.
	Fox News at 10pm are 4% down.
	MSNBC are like 18-20% down.
	But CNN are 45% down.
	So, I mean, it's close to half of your viewership disappeared with the disappearance of Trump.
	That's going to hurt.
	That would sting, yes.
	Because you would think, when Trump won, Fox News viewership probably went up.
	This is their heyday to make a big claim.
	Especially given the media, the left-wing media, opposition.
	And you would think the opposite would be true.
	Joe Biden gets in, CNN would be gunning for it, MSNBC would be gunning for it.
	No, instead, they've taken the biggest losses I can imagine they could possibly take.
	I mean, CNN almost losing half, MSNBC even more partisan, losing what, an average of maybe 15% there?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And for Fox News, who's taken this, you know, let's say partisan defeat, not much change.
	Like, maybe down 3%, 4%.
	Yeah, okay.
	It's weird.
	It's almost like the public don't want to hear the corporate media fluffing Joe Biden.
	Although this might also be, because we saw a lot of this, of the lovely account that posts Biden voters L's who are realising they've messed up, is that a lot of them, the kind of people who just hated Trump, that was it.
	That was all that was in for them.
	So now that Trump's gone, they're just clocking off, don't care about politics.
	There was some verified check marks saying, oh, who's the education secretary?
	Oh, I don't have to know anymore.
	How wonderful.
	It was like, right, okay.
	Great.
	Serious people.
	Very serious people.
	The cabal at work.
	Yeah.
	And this is also with Fox News losing viewership.
	And one of the things you put in here was the fact that Lou Dobbs lost his show, which is one of the highest rated shows on Fox News.
	Which, do we know why?
	Well, no.
	As far as I'm aware.
	They just seem to have decided.
	Yeah, even though he's doing great.
	And this is in the face of CNN's repeated attempts to get Fox News just roundly deplatformed.
	CNN also published an article saying he was an extremist and he'd been saying extremist stuff.
	Just MAGA stuff, really, but that is what they consider to be extremism now.
	I don't know what he's done wrong, really.
	But that's the kind of thing that's going on.
	They seem to be culling some of their best, and I hope it's not because they're thinking of trying to get the centre ground, as the Conservatives always say in this country, which basically just means becoming leftists.
	I can't see how that's going to be to Fox News' benefit.
	But there's also the run-of-the-mill journos, you know, journos in brackets, the kind of Twitter journos, who are very upset.
	So this is an article talking about the fact that, you know, ooh, Trump's logged into Parler.
	He's posted something on Parler.
	Isn't that interesting?
	And, like, will he log in there?
	We'll be able to follow him again.
	Will that be nice?
	Yeah, yeah, I love this one.
	Like, the whole, oh, will he log into Gab or somewhere else?
	It's like, you're just desperate for a social media platform you can follow him on now.
	You know, you...
	Now he's gone from Twitter.
	They're like, wait, where's my job?
	Now he's gone from Twitter, Facebook, Instagram.
	Exactly.
	You were thrilled at the time.
	You were all cheering at the time.
	And now it's like, oh, I need another hit.
	Where can I follow him?
	Where can I reply guy to him?
	What can I write an article on?
	Yeah, well, you can get what you deserve.
	No, there's nothing.
	And there's a really great example of this that I found.
	So this is an article called, That page doesn't exist.
	Welcome to life without Trump's tweets.
	So basically, because all the tweets are gone.
	And this guy at the Los Angeles Times is not taking it well.
	And it's really interesting.
	So he says...
	Poor Nicholas Goldberg.
	So he has to start with denouncing Trump, of course.
	So the most dangerous president in modern history has been banned from Twitter and taken away his account like a weapon of mass destruction.
	Thank God they finally took it away from him.
	It's like, okay.
	So, fine.
	You hate Trump.
	Yep, got it.
	Virtue signaled.
	But then the next line.
	But I must confess, I feel a bit empty.
	Without Trump, you're nothing.
	That's what you're saying to us, Nicholas Goldberg.
	Without Trump, you are nothing.
	It's great for you to just come out and say it.
	Yeah, it is.
	Mask off.
	This is a big L. I expect to see this on that Twitter account.
	There's just him posting here.
	I have been reading Trump's Twitter feed every day for the last four years.
	Oh my god, man.
	Get a life.
	Imagine being that obsessed with Trump.
	Like, wake up, log on to it, track Trump's Twitter.
	Yeah.
	Weird, weird.
	So he says here, it's going to be strange to revert to the humdrum, cautious political platitudes after drinking the wine of uninhibited, free-associated populism.
	So essentially, things are going to get back to boring, and I kind of hate it.
	Yeah, I was enjoying politics under Trump, and I'm gutted I won.
	He gives some examples here of the things from Joe Biden, some of the tweets.
	In 10 days, we move forward and rebuild together.
	Another tweet.
	In 2020, we're going to build a brighter future.
	I'm bored just reading.
	Yeah, I posted a meme to my Instagram the other day that was a weirdo 3D model of Joe Biden's head that had grown legs and weird limbs and was marching.
	And the caption on it was just like, you know, go back to sleep, politics has become boring again.
	And it's like, that's what he's complaining about.
	This is the meme come to life.
	Absolutely, yes.
	I mean, he goes on here to also praise Trump.
	I'm going to say it's praise.
	So he talks about the fact that Trump used the platform to offer humsprung Winston, such as, I have never seen a thin person drinking Diet Coke.
	And he also cracked good jokes, solid jokes, noting that Hillary Clinton can't satisfy her husband.
	But it's just so much better.
	Like, just so much better.
	And, um...
	Trump made politics interesting.
	This has always been a thing that they're like, ha, look at this, look how stupid he is, he's posted the mean thing, and it's like, nah, that's based, that's funny, I like it.
	Yeah, we like that.
	And they finally realised it, so he puts it at the end here.
	That's because it was.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	A politician who is actually real.
	A normal person who's not just like 2020.
	This is why I was telling you, Trump was one of the working class in his mannerisms, his attitude, the way he thought, the way he approached politics, the way he approached Twitter.
	Like, he wasn't different from them.
	He wasn't.
	The only difference you're pointing out is the money.
	But I don't think that's enough.
	No, it absolutely isn't.
	I just love how this guy is like, I'm actually out of a job.
	I've got nothing to do now.
	What am I meant to do?
	Poor old Nicholas.
	And he's not the only one.
	I mean, there are a million verified check marks who their entire job was just checking the Twitter feed.
	I mean, I assume the guys who employ them are like, it's been a month.
	What have you guys written about Biden?
	It's going to be a good year?
	What have you got?
	He has done good things.
	Does Biden do good, I think?
	Yeah.
	And we've seen the results.
	CNN's viewership down 45%.
	Yes.
	Enjoy your future, CNN, I guess.
	There's nothing else.
	Incidentally, our numbers are great.
	Thank you all for watching, by the way.
	Going to end up employing CNN's journos, I guess.
	I look forward to employing Brian Stelter.
	I really do.
	But talking about authentic voices in politics...
	In fact, before we get...
	Talking about employing people, we are actually hiring at the moment.
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	Anyway, carrying on.
	So talking about people who are authentic in the way that they speak and the fact that they're more in tune with people, let's go back to home because we're talking about Britain now.
	So the complaint always with Trump was he was actually talking real things instead of just being a platitude-laden leftist who just virtue signals because there's nothing else to them.
	Just like a regular Republican.
	Yeah, and the folks in the UK are apparently starting to get their head around this.
	Wait a minute, there's a market for populism?
	Yeah, apparently people actually like this stuff, as pointed out by CNN's viewership, which is, as soon as it's gone, all their viewership disappears.
	So for anyone in America or outside who's not sure, right?
	So when they talk about the Washington Beltway, we talk about the Westminster bubble.
	And it's the same sort of principle where it's like political insiders in the media and politics class that all spend all their time in this one area.
	Well, that's Washington in the US and that's Westminster here.
	And the Westminster crowd are starting to realise, wait, there's a world outside of London that actually likes Brexit, that actually likes Trump, that actually likes populism.
	Yeah, and they'll watch things, honestly.
	They'll watch TV. It's been a while, I've been trying to tell you, but...
	So the perfect person for this was Andrew Neil, and Andrew Neil is a guy who's worked at the BBC for 25 years, hosting Sunday Politics and a bunch of other things.
	He's, I'm going to say, right-wing in the British sense, but he is very conservative, so I'm a little bit cautious about this whole endeavour going into it, but we'll go for it.
	I mean, it's going to be politically correct.
	Yeah, I'm not massively hyped, but I hope it isn't.
	I hope they are actually getting the message here, but we'll see when it comes out.
	Let's hope we're just being pessimistic.
	So this is him talking about his job and the fact that he's leaving and he's gone on and he's accepted the post of chairman at GB News, which is, I guess, the working title of their version of what they want to bring to the UK. It's a pretty good title, to be honest.
	And he says he will be presenting one of the shows, which will be prime time on GPU, so it'll be him giving his actual opinion instead of being couched at the BBC. Well, that'll be interesting.
	For most Americans who don't know him, you could probably remember him from the interview he did with Ben Shapiro, in which Ben Shapiro got very annoyed that he was being antagonistic.
	But the thing is, that wasn't a good interview for Andrew Neal.
	No, it wasn't.
	But that's the problem with the BBC, which is that it's so cringe because everything's on the rails of political correctness that nothing real ever gets asked.
	So for anyone who didn't see that interview, essentially...
	Andrew Neal approached Ben Shapiro with left-wing talking points and left-wing gotchas like 12 years ago.
	You tweeted this on Twitter, blah, blah, blah.
	Ben Shapiro just replies with me, you sound like a leftist, I'm not wasting my time.
	And Andrew Neal was like, ha, ha, ha, I'm not a leftist.
	And it's like, well, if you're not a leftist, why are you doing the work of a leftist, Andrew?
	Because he worked at the BBC, and that's the way things are done.
	At least I hope he understands that.
	Same here, and let's hope that this is a new lease of life for him.
	So the immediate response from left-wing media was that this was terrible, how could this possibly happen?
	And it's basically Fox News.
	Andrew Neal wants to bring a Fox News-style opinionated TV station to the UK. Thank God!
	Jesus Christ!
	Because we've only got MSNBC-style opinionated TV stations here at the moment.
	Yeah, and it's insufferable.
	Yeah, it really is.
	I mean, I'm quite young, and I know a lot of young people don't watch TV by license fee or anything like this, and that's a problem with it.
	But it's also just because it sucks.
	Like, there's nothing on TV I want to watch that's political-related.
	It's garbage.
	All of it's garbage.
	Yeah.
	And the...
	On the plus side, though, that's why you have a job.
	Because there's a market.
	A whole other market there.
	They've made a market for it.
	But that's the point that Andrew Neil's trying to fit here, which is that, well, there's a market.
	Let's take it.
	Why not?
	What's the problem?
	And apparently Fox News did try to come to the UK before, but they got kicked off for saying that Theresa May was bad at protecting citizens in case of terrorist attacks.
	But they said it in less scientific language, more moral language, which then got them kicked off for being...
	What was the word?
	They were...
	They were not fair or something like this.
	And I was like, yeah.
	Oh, well then the BBC needs to be deplatformed immediately.
	But no, apparently that's not how it works, and it never goes the other way.
	So this is The Guardian complaining about it, but The Independent also jumped on this, and I'm complaining about it.
	But their complaint here was that a former No.
	10 official will be leading the effort to launch the BBC competitor.
	What's wrong with that?
	So the complaint here was that he'd be sort of giving insider knowledge on the fact that the government would be supporting it or something like this.
	Oh, and only the BBC and The Guardian should be getting that insider knowledge.
	Yeah.
	I hate this.
	I'm not, again, massively hopeful for this, because apparently he was the head of communications for Theresa May, so I'm a bit like, eh, it doesn't sound very based, but okay.
	Apparently he used to work at the Sunday Politics, so that's how I'll know Andrew Neil.
	Okay.
	But the quotes from them are good sounding, but again, I'm sorry to be so pessimistic, but it just sounds like wallpaper-based to me.
	No, no, I'm with you.
	It's...
	So one of the quotes here is about what the television will be doing.
	So it says, it'll be a television channel aimed at people who believe the public broadcaster has become too left-wing and woke.
	So that's everyone.
	Yeah, I mean, you've got 99% of the audience there already, if that's your target market.
	They also say here that he wrote an opinion piece for The Telegraph, saying that the Beeb had become culturally captivated by the woke-dominated groupthink of some of its own staff.
	Correct.
	True statement.
	But that doesn't really tell me what you're going to do.
	That just tells me that, yeah, the BBC is bad.
	It's woke garbage.
	How exactly are you going to prevent yourselves from becoming woke?
	Yeah.
	So Andrew Neal responded to this saying that he was definitely going to go for Fox News style.
	But the way he's talking about it is Fox News style in the sense that hosts would come on and give their opinions and it wouldn't just be rolling coverage.
	So this is them reporting about that.
	Well, that sounds interesting.
	That is better than the news that we have.
	Yeah.
	It sounds like LBC, right?
	Yeah, that would be the standard, because the problem here is also that all media in the UK is governed by Ofcom, and you have to be, I can't remember the wording, but it's like fair or something like this.
	So the way LBC dealt with that is they'd have someone left-wing Remainer, and then they'd have Nigel Farage on to counter it at different times.
	Except they'd sack Nigel Farage.
	hopkins they got a nurture garage um you know who else has gone uh i don't know how nick ferrari's even still there but there's yeah it's becoming garbage in which case yeah surely the rules would be applied but they're not anyway so he talks about the fact here that he wants to do uh something like fox news so there would be no point to doing what what's already done um because it would have the same problems we're not going to be a rolling news channel we're going to be something more based like msnbca in america which is on the left or fox news which is on the right They don't do rolling news.
	They do news when it breaks, but they don't do continuous rolling.
	So you would have Andrew Neal come on.
	It's not a 24-hour show.
	Then in between, Andrew Neal comes on, says something based for an hour, and then rolling news.
	That sounds great.
	Which sounds good.
	And they've had the left coming after them for this.
	So the Stop Hate campaign is going after them because how dare they think of running a news channel that will say things that we don't like.
	That's Hatred, don't you know?
	Yeah.
	It hasn't released.
	No one knows what's going to be on it.
	No one even knows who's hosting it.
	All we know is Andrew Neil's going to be there.
	But that's enough.
	And yet, hashtag Don't Fund GB News.
	Yeah, so Stop Hateness Funding Hate got this trending a few days ago, and it was surprisingly big, but it's all like...
	It didn't really have verified accounts doing it, but it was loads and loads of midwits.
	That's because they're afraid.
	They know what the effect is going to be, because they know that they've only got to where they are at the moment.
	By having a monopoly on the information that people get to hear, that regular folk get to hear, if there is just a bland alternative, then that's going to do them some serious damage.
	So the first one I want to show here was Ella Cockbane, who promoted this idea that you need to not fund it.
	She's messaging O2 saying...
	I think it's pronounced Cobain.
	No, I'm joking.
	It's cockbane.
	Like, it looks like cock.
	It's getting pronounced cock.
	But I have no respect for her anyway, because she's actually...
	I consider her a scumbag.
	She writes articles, like academic articles, trying to explain away the grooming gangs as not a real issue.
	Oh, well then.
	So, you know, I'm also not surprised.
	Yeah.
	And she's engaging in this.
	She's a partisan actor.
	I just...
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I hate her work.
	I don't think she's a legitimate person.
	I think she's a hateful person.
	Yeah.
	I think she should stop being funded.
	Yeah.
	And that's not just my words.
	Like, they're a Grimmie gang victim.
	So we've spoken about how dreadful she is.
	But anyway, side story.
	But she's not the only one.
	Femi also retweeted this, trying to get it trending.
	Femi, we needed a way of fixing, fortifying the Brexit vote.
	That's come on.
	Yeah.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah, so, I mean, just dishonest people.
	And they know they're being dishonest.
	They haven't even seen what's on it.
	It's their book burning before they even read the book.
	Yes.
	And then there's just loads of...
	I don't like the title of this book.
	Burn it!
	Essentially, yeah.
	Andrew Neal's written it.
	Burn it!
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	And then there's loads of Mitwits.
	So there's just, like...
	We can just show some here.
	So someone doing it.
	And then another one, and then another one.
	And they're all, like, EU flags.
	GB News has just appointed the Proud Boys their US roving correspondents.
	God, I wish.
	I... I don't believe you.
	And Andrew O'Neill responded to this by saying that the woke warriors were trying to get a boycott going on, which they definitely were, and he thinks that's hilarious.
	And then he had some good fun with this.
	He retweeted the next image, which I think is great.
	Follow-back pro Europe spray, yeah.
	Just get rid of them.
	And he also points out, like, why are they so afraid of something they haven't even seen?
	It's not released.
	But then I get into the point where I'm a bit concerned, because he went on Good Morning Britain to talk about this, because this is the kind of stories that trend in the UK. And he had to defend himself, so Good Morning Britain were like, oh, what if hate comes on your channel?
	And he's like, there will be no room for hate.
	But who defines what hate is, Andrew?
	The left...
	Yeah.
	That's not good news, is it?
	This is left-wing narrative.
	Yeah.
	The left are going to define what hate is and is not, and you're going to find yourself being called hate.
	And so your own views will not be allowed on the news station you've just created.
	But his response here, he accepted the premise that there's hate and we must oppose it.
	So you've already brought into left-wing worldview, saying that there will be no hate, we'll never go down the road of hate.
	God, that's cringe.
	And then, of course, Good Morning Britain start talking about, you know, well, there should be the extent in which free speech is allowed in regards to these things.
	I hate Britain.
	This is why we don't talk about Britain so much, because honestly...
	We need a First Amendment.
	That's what we need.
	We need a court to come out and say, look, hate speech is free speech, so shut up.
	Because this is the mainstream opinion that it all needs to go.
	And the thing is, right, I don't even agree that what they're describing as hate is actually hate.
	You know, this thing.
	We disagree fundamentally on what hate speech is.
	I don't even agree hate speech exists.
	Yeah, I was going to say, I don't think it's a thing.
	But the concepts involved, I do not necessarily think are hateful that are being called hateful.
	I think it's left-wing interpretation, deliberate misinterpretation that is framing things as being hateful and not that these things are necessarily hateful.
	But anyway, it doesn't even matter.
	Hate speech is free speech.
	Internationally, it gets used as calls for genocide, but then just use calls for genocide.
	Do you think Andrew Neil is going to have calls for genocide on GB News?
	No, I don't see that happening.
	No, it's not going on.
	I mean, no one has calls for genocide anywhere because it would be a crime.
	So it's just not something we have to worry about.
	Plus, he's also got Nigel Farage, apparently has been invited to host a show, which will be great.
	Also hasn't called for a genocide.
	And Boris Johnson's sister apparently has also been called on.
	She's a Remainer, but she's an interesting character anyway.
	Has she ever called for genocide?
	Not to my knowledge.
	But I mean, there's always the first, I guess.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	She's going to be given a platform on GB News.
	Who knows what's going to happen?
	You know, those FB... Get the bug spray out, lads.
	Anyway, but then I also got concerned...
	Remainer genocide.
	Because he also made another response to this that I don't think was good.
	So the next one, if you can get it up, is him talking about concern about woke groups.
	He just put this up today.
	The original definition of woke is out of date.
	As a concern for social justice, nobody could object, but it's morphed into a cancel culture that seeks not just to disagree, but to close down ideas and people with which it disagrees insidious.
	Great.
	Like, okay, you got half right there.
	Like, yes, they are trying to shut down conversations before they happen.
	But to accept that if it's for social justice, then it's a good cause?
	Oh, come on, man.
	I mean, hey, what's the definition of woke, Andrew?
	Because I would say the definition of woke is essentially racism.
	So the definition hasn't really...
	I mean, when you say it's out of date, it's just not very favourable.
	But the question of social justice...
	Define it.
	Define social justice for me, Andrew.
	And how is it different from individual justice?
	Oh, I can actually answer that, but I'm not going to do it now.
	Yeah, but we have an example of social justice in action, which I guess Andrew Neil could find hard to object to, which is Count Dankula turning this up.
	So there's a guy, for people who don't know, called Tom Moore, who raised a bunch of money from the NHS. He's 100-odd, and he's died.
	And someone tweeted something out saying that they were glad that he was dead.
	In fact, the quote is, the only good Brit soldier is a deed one.
	Burn Oldfella Burn.
	So, I watched Dank's video on this.
	Basically, this guy's an SNP supporter, so like a National Socialist.
	An Englishman being killed.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Recompense for the war, I suppose.
	Yeah, the only good British soldier is a dead one, according to the Scotch National Party's supporters.
	Guess what?
	We don't care.
	Fine.
	He wants to tweet this.
	Oh yeah, no, no.
	I know, actually.
	I would kind of like it if the SNP supporters would tweet more of this.
	Because then we get to see who they are.
	We get to mock them, we get to enjoy laughing at them being really horrible people.
	But that's not the response.
	We have social justice instead.
	So for the social justice of the English, the Scottish police go out and arrest this guy for putting something on Twitter, which is just that he is happy that this guy's dead.
	This is the testing grounds, I suppose, because it was a good thing with Dankula himself.
	He was a good testing ground to see if someone's solid.
	Did they come out in support of him?
	And if they didn't, they've got no spine, because that's a really easy case to defend.
	Obvious joke.
	It's a pug dog.
	And I hope to see what GB News does, but I'm personally not optimistic.
	This Sear Alba guy, I don't think this is a joke.
	I think that he's made a sincere statement.
	But I think he should be allowed to make sincere statements about really gross subjects.
	I mean, he should be fine to do this.
	He's not threatening violence.
	He's saying, I'm glad this 101-year-old veteran and man who raised millions for the NHS, he's glad that he's dead.
	It's like, okay, I don't agree.
	I'm not glad that the guy's dead.
	I think that's a really gross statement.
	But I don't think you should be punished for saying it.
	The state should not be intervening with the cops and saying, right, you're under arrest now, you're going to face time in jail, which is what he's under threat of, isn't it?
	I think this is a section 127 conviction, so he'll either be fined or sentenced to jail for the hurt feelings of the English, I suppose.
	Not even the English.
	I mean, who can read Scottish?
	What's an old?
	But the point is...
	This is what they've got to fight against.
	If they can't fight against this sort of thing, you're worthless.
	And like I said, we're in favour of free speech, whether it's for a libertarian like Dank or it's a leftist like this guy.
	Okay, I want him to say ugly stuff.
	And then we can have a conversation about the content of what he said.
	Why is this guy wanting British soldiers dead?
	He lives in Scotland, for Christ's sake.
	You would think that the Scots contribute a disproportionate number of soldiers to the British army.
	So it's like, that guy could well have been a Scot.
	So if you're a Scottish nationalist, go, yeah, I want that Scottish soldier dead.
	That's kind of a thing that's worth talking about, I think.
	But he can't do that, because now censorship has come in, and so there's an issue there.
	We can't even investigate.
	I'd love to ask him what his views on IS are.
	They're killing British soldiers.
	What's the problem, lad?
	I'd love to hear his views on Israel.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, let's end it there, I guess.
	With our undying support for Israel.
	So, I think we have some...
	Yeah, we've got a question from Xander Miller.
	Xander, you can smile.
	I believe there are three ways a man ought to negotiate with God.
	First, by setting goals.
	Second, by keeping a schedule.
	And third, by adopting a personal code.
	Carl, your goals with Lotus Eaters are very clear.
	Callum helps you with scheduling and you're focused on developing virtuous habits.
	You've clearly got your goals and your schedule covered.
	A personal code is a standard you set for yourself that is more than what you would expect from other people.
	A personal code helps you resist the pull of mediocrity.
	Do you have a personal code?
	Every man needs a code.
	I do have a personal code.
	Tell people the truth, pay your bills on time, and do the work.
	That's always been my code.
	I do pay my bills on time, I do tell people the truth, and I do the work.
	It's very tiring.
	But at the end of the day, it's starting to give me a kind of moral grounding that I realize that you don't have if you don't do these things.
	Because at the end of the day, all the virtue signaling the world doesn't mean that you paid your bills, it doesn't mean that you told the truth, it doesn't mean you did the work.
	And if you don't do those things, it's the people who tell the truth, pay the bills, and do the work who hold the world together.
	In fact, I'm starting to come around to the idea of the ideology of being a dad, basically.
	I'm kind of crafting it.
	And at some point, we're going to be screaming in the face of the feminists.
	We're the ones who hold the world together.
	Without us, you're nothing.
	Look at women's net tax contributions.
	Oh, they're below the breaking point.
	So if it wasn't for dads paying their way, then all of these women workers would be, frankly, not able to fund the social systems they're drawing off.
	So dads deserve some social respect.
	You're going to set up the dadism party.
	You have to be a dad to join.
	It didn't have to be a dad to join.
	I think it should be restricted.
	No, you've just got to support dadism.
	There are young men like yourself who have yet to become dads.
	But one day, if you're lucky in your future, you'll become a dad, and then you'll understand.
	So you can support dadism as you're going up.
	But seriously, those three things, I think they're the core of not just a good society, but for you to feel like a good person.
	Hassan Paik is a good example of this.
	The kind of things he promotes and what happened to his editor, you know?
	Yeah.
	Didn't pay him.
	Weird socialist.
	Didn't redistribute that wealth.
	Weird.
	No one complains that I didn't pay my bills, Hassan.
	Or that I called for the destruction of Israel.
	And that was Vosh, wasn't it?
	That was Vosh.
	Yeah.
	No, Hassan Paik has said that America deserved 9-11.
	That was right.
	And that Dan Crenshaw deserved to be...
	I can't even say that one on the screen.
	Something horrible should happen to Dan Crenshaw's missing eye.
	But I mean, we're the ones at risk of demonetization.
	Vosha's got his Twitch back as well now.
	Oh, has he?
	Yeah.
	Well, that's okay for some, isn't it?
	Maybe we should become communists.
	We can abandon all these standards.
	We don't have to do hard work.
	I don't even have to pay your Twitter back.
	Might get my Twitter back, yeah.
	Hey Jack, I converted to leftism.
	Can I come back?
	I mean, imagine if I... Say the K-word all you like, bro.
	Yeah, go wild.
	Anyway, we have another question.
	Hey Sargon.
	I wanted your opinion on the idea of people on welfare having the right to vote.
	I know you might give me the typical liberal arguments about voting that I'd probably even agree with, but I feel like I could make a practical argument against it.
	It looks like Welfare only goes up in a positive spiral direction.
	I mean, people on welfare will most likely vote for those who either maintain or increase welfare, you know, through incentives.
	Those that want to decrease welfare spending will have a higher hurdle to overcome.
	I believe, like you or Lewis even said, the majority of those on welfare are women, especially so for Black women, who make up, coincidentally, a significant proportion of Democrat voters.
	Personally, I think those on welfare should be allowed to vote, but not those that can change welfare budgets, like sheriffs, for example.
	I'd love to hear what you think.
	Well, I mean, I kind of made the point that he's just made there, isn't it?
	Well, I mean, I personally happen to very much like the Starship Troopers view of the world, as in, The franchise isn't something that should be just given to you because it has no particular value to you because you didn't have to sacrifice anything to get it.
	But I think it should be open to people to earn.
	And I think earning things makes things valuable because it creates scarcity.
	And this means that you have to put some effort in and so you'll take care of it.
	You'll pay attention.
	You won't treat it frivolously and you won't simply vote for Gibbs, theoretically.
	I don't think it should be based on gender or anything like that.
	Which is, incidentally, an argument for, like, 16-year-olds to be able to vote if the voting age is 18 sort of thing.
	If they work and pay taxes, why shouldn't they vote?
	Well, maybe they should.
	What if we've got a paper route?
	Why not?
	Do you pay taxes on your paper route?
	Also, I'm not even sure how this...
	Is that only income tax?
	Because I pay the AT if you're young?
	Well, assuming we're restricting this to income tax, direct taxation from the government.
	I think there's a fair argument to be made there, to be honest.
	And I don't think it's based on race or gender or class or anything like that.
	It's just based on work.
	Just thinking in my head, there was a story about a 13-year-old who was doing the GameStop thing, and he ended up getting a few thousand out of it.
	He needs a representative.
	Well, does he pay tax?
	No taxation without representation.
	I don't think he has to pay tax.
	He's 13.
	I think there's probably an age.
	I'd have to check, depending where you are, probably.
	Sounds like a tax loophole and a half.
	My son earned all this money.
	This isn't taxation advice.
	Yeah, we're not experts at all in any way, shape or form.
	But no, I think there's a fair argument to be made that voting rights should be tied in some way to contributions.
	I don't see how the Conservatives can carry on arguing for it being restricted at 18 and whatnot without it, to be honest.
	So there's this argument that it should be when you're fully grown adult, in which case men, it's 25 or whatever.
	So you've already busted your own argument there.
	But it's the reason in the UK, for example, every party except the Conservatives wants to lower it to at least 16.
	Some of them lower, some of them want to do 14.
	And of course, everyone who lives here, so even if they're a migrant with no citizenship, they should be able to vote.
	Like in Wales.
	I don't see the Conservatives having an actual argument against that, other than we like 18.
	That's kind of weak.
	Well, it's not an argument.
	It's not convincing at all.
	I'm not going to engage with what you're arguing, and I'm just going to say, I like this thing.
	So it's like, yeah, you need to have resistance.
	Otherwise, why not lower it?
	What's the difference?
	But yeah, I think that there's a genuine question there.
	And the thing is, this is probably why democracies, like modern universal suffrage democracies, they're not an old experiment or something.
	These are less than 100 years old, or just over 100 years old now.
	And look at how they're going.
	It's not going brilliantly, is it?
	Look at the debt we're under.
	Look at the fact that our economies are closed.
	Everything's going to hell.
	Talking about those $2,000 checks that the Biden vote.
	Yeah, exactly!
	There's so many posting on Twitter that's just like, I voted for this and I didn't get my $2,000.
	It's a really bad reason to vote.
	Yeah, you're not supposed to vote yourself money.
	Like, that's not how this works.
	And you're meant to be frugal for a start.
	And so, yeah, if the population can just vote themselves massive stacks of cash, then your massive stacks of cash become even bigger, worthless stacks of cash.
	And reality catches up.
	Like Andrew Yang running the $2,000 a month party.
	Yeah.
	And if he gets in, he'll give everyone $2,000 a month.
	Andrew, you don't have that much money.
	Oh, oh, it's coming from me.
	Right, okay.
	But that's the thing.
	It's not good.
	It's not good.
	And it's cheap.
	And I'm pretty sure there's like a Benjamin Franklin quote or Thomas Jefferson quote that goes something like this.
	Your Republic will last for as long as the population until they realize they convert themselves money.
	It's in Starship Troopers, I think.
	It probably comes from the Founding Fathers.
	Yeah, yeah, but I mean, he's taken it and put it in there.
	Oh, doubtless, yeah, because it's true.
	If that's allowed to happen, then the whole thing starts going down.
	But anyway, we've got some comments from the website.
	So Will the Impaler, again, if you want to not have to give a super chance, you can always sign up at lotuses.com and you're able to comment on the website.
	You can read the comments if you're not a member, but only members can comment, which is a really nice way of keeping the community free of...
	People spamming junk.
	The level of conversation on the website is really high quality as well.
	Were you going to say something?
	Keep them short.
	Yeah, try and keep them short because at the moment there's no character limit.
	Don't abuse it.
	We can't read a novel on air.
	But anyway, Maradona did not cheat.
	He simply fortified the ball into the goal with his hand.
	Exactly.
	It was a fortified thing.
	For anyone who doesn't remember, Google Maradona Hand of God.
	Mostly Harmless says nobody in America really likes or thinks Cheez Whiz is actual cheese.
	Well, that's good.
	So why do you call it cheese?
	It's simply a cheese-flavoured goo that helps lubricate Philly cheesesteaks directly into your gullet.
	Wow.
	Why do you need this?
	Gross.
	Are Philly cheesesteaks that bad?
	No, they're quite nice, actually.
	Why are you ruining it?
	I had one.
	I went to Philadelphia and had one.
	It was nice.
	Even with the fake cheese, it was quite nice.
	The lubricant.
	Yeah.
	But their cheddar doesn't taste like real cheddar, either.
	Edward of Woodstock says, what really worries me is that if this fortifying goes without challenge, this will just be how elections work in the US from now on.
	Yeah, just like Venezuela.
	Subversive tactics and backroom deals will dictate how campaigns and election coverage are undertaken.
	It is truly troubling that people can't see how evil this exactly is.
	The ends never justify the means because all you do is set a precedent and a seconding one at that.
	That's correct.
	And if anything, our position should be that it is the means that justify the ends.
	If you get something through fair means, then you deserve to have that thing.
	If you don't get it through fair means, then you don't deserve to have that thing.
	It's pretty cut and dried.
	What's this defense in chat that, oh, it's spelt like Chez, therefore it's not cheese, we're being very clear.
	It's not a defense.
	It's not a defense at all.
	It's like I saw once, what is it?
	Like a guy had crab something on his menu, so he's better with a K, because then he's like, ha, it's fake crab, everyone knows.
	It's like...
	What?
	Oh, maybe it's an American thing.
	If you misspell something, it's not the real thing, and therefore...
	You know, I'm rarely in favour of regulation, but that's a regulation I'm in favour of.
	Stop trying to mislead the customer.
	I don't want to eat something while you're trying to mislead me.
	See, there was me just showing forbearance to what I thought was a shopkeeper with learning disabilities, and it turns out it was a way of subverting the regulations!
	It says, fact check me on this.
	One, no openly socialist government has ever come to power democratically.
	I mean, I think Hugo Chavez probably was elected democratically originally.
	Hitler was democratic.
	That's true.
	Democratically got in.
	Yeah, that's true.
	So yeah, no, I think it has happened.
	But the second one is, all socialist governments have implemented death camps within 12 months of coming to power.
	I mean, probably not all of them.
	Sorry, I'm reading more about this cheese stuff.
	People arguing that it's not cheese, go over it.
	It's not happening.
	But look into these facts and be very scared for America.
	Socialists are evil and don't hang around.
	It's probably not all of them.
	I'd have to check.
	I think the definition of socialist would have to be fairly stringently defined.
	Amazing to hear the news from Logistics yesterday that the Roman Catholic Church is female priests and bishops.
	This is not correct.
	You have no evidence.
	Callum?
	I will have a look it up then if I'm wrong.
	I saw an article saying there had been, but if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
	I'm sorry.
	Oh, I thought you'd fact-check this.
	We will fact-check it.
	I did see an article, but...
	Well, thank you, Robbie, for BCFO and Callum live on air.
	I appreciate that.
	We do retractions.
	This is not CNN. You do retractions.
	You got it wrong.
	Jahalen says, good news for the moral superpower known as Sweden.
	We shut down our nuclear power plants.
	Now we've started up an oil-fueled one as our wind farms can't handle producing in the cold and state media are telling us not to vacuum as factories are stopping production due to lack of power.
	Amazing.
	Amazing.
	Like, Germany also decommissioned all their nuclear power plants.
	It's like, why?
	Nuclear power plants are like the scientific way forward, right?
	They're super productive, produce tiny amounts of waste and don't pollute.
	Like, why would you not?
	Charlie Rogers says, with the vaccine rollout well on its way in the UK and COOF numbers falling, can we look forward to Lotus Eats Live sometime this year?
	Man, I would love to.
	I would love for us to do Lotus Eats Live.
	It would be amazing to do.
	However, we're locked down.
	But who knows?
	Especially if we can make that to Swansea or Cardiff.
	Also, petitions change Callum's name to Lenny.
	What?
	I don't know.
	You look like a Lenny, actually.
	This is a reference to me getting shot in the head.
	I don't know.
	What?
	You ever read Of Mice and Men?
	You weren't forced to read that in school?
	Sorry?
	Of Mice and Men.
	You know, I never had to read that in school.
	Oh.
	It was only good.
	Yeah, it's actually alright.
	Everyone complains about it because you're forced to read it, but it's an alright story.
	I'll have to get around to it.
	Yeah, we did a sort of premium podcast of where Hitchens would fall in the culture war, and we went back through Hitchens' public career, basically, examining where he falls on the certain subjects that are currently coming up in the world.
	And these things had all been present in his own time, and I refuse to believe for a second he would be on the side of regressive leftists and the intersectional left.
	He was BTF-oing them back then, before they were anyone important, and now I think he would be a fiery opponent of them.
	Nicholas Malson says, these these dark times be over.
	I'll have to go and look into that.
	Dan Taylor, are you aware of the recent change by US President and Executive Order where equality has now been changed to equity?
	Demonstrable change from equality of opportunity to equality of outcome.
	I have not been made aware of that.
	I think we did cover it.
	There was one executive order where they were defining it.
	But they said they wanted equity, and then in their definition sections, like right at the bottom, they defined equity as equality of treatment.
	It was like, do you guys not update the list yet, or what?
	You're not saying you want white people to be treated like black people, are you?
	That's the weird thing.
	Because that would be affirmative action.
	In the part that's clearly written by the Biden team, it was all in leftist language of equity.
	But the definition section, I don't know if they just haven't updated their copy-paste of what an executive order must be.
	Yeah, but that would be the end of affirmative action.
	Yeah.
	I mean, don't worry, that's what I want.
	I'm in favour of it.
	Yeah, totally in favour of all people being treated the same, irrespective of any arbitrary characteristics.
	Anyway, the only person on Fox News who reported about the Time article was Laura Ingram.
	Yeah, I thought that was the case.
	I saw that she had reported it, although I hadn't watched her segment.
	Not trying to disrespect her or anything.
	But yeah, I expected Tucker Carlson to have something to say about it, and he didn't.
	And so I'm curious.
	On alternative news outlets, people seem to blame it solely on the Democrats and Big Biz, completely overlooking that Time wrote it was cross-partisan.
	Yeah, tomorrow we'll be doing an update on what's happening, obviously, with Trump's impeachment.
	And the fact that Brad Raffensperger is making moves against Trump to investigate his phone call.
	You may remember the phone call that Trump had to Raffensperger saying, what's going on?
	I don't think that Trump did anything particularly wrong in that phone call, but of course when you have a vast cross-partisan cabal that is just insistent on making everything about Trump wrong, then it doesn't matter really, does it?
	But yeah, so more on that tomorrow.
	How long until simply competing in a sport as a white person is racist in and of itself?
	Not long.
	Fuzzy logic.
	CNN should speak to their buddies in the White House to have a poll tax, forcing people to pay them under threat of prison.
	Yeah, if there's one thing people love, it's poll taxes, Mr.
	Biden.
	You should definitely look into it.
	Panem et Circuses.
	Bread and Circuses.
	The $1,200 is the bread and the impeachment performance is the circus.
	Well, it was $1,400 actually.
	But yeah, so bread and circuses.
	Chad Kramer.
	I'm trying to get into political theory.
	Do you guys know any good books?
	There are loads of good books, but what you could do is go to the book club that we do on the Lotus Eaters and then that's a good start.
	So before the show is done, I want to ask, what's your take on the lack of response to the Time article from the mainstream GOP? Haven't seen anything from any of them.
	Well, I mean, the question is, which ones are implicated?
	People like Raffensperger are definitely implicated.
	I think a lot of the other GOP, like people like Ted Cruz, Josh Wally, those sorts, you'd think they'd be making a huge deal out of this.
	I mean, like, maybe they're scared, because it's huge, what is being revealed to us here.
	So maybe they're just afraid of covering it, and maybe thinking, well...
	Just have to carry on.
	I do have to wonder how many, what would you call them, wets?
	It's probably a polite term that we use in English politics.
	Are there?
	Because I remember once it looked like Donald Trump was going to lose the election.
	Sorry?
	Mitch.
	Mitch.
	I wasn't really talking about him, but you remember Guido Forks started tweeting like, oh, I'll be so glad that this clown show is over in response to Trump.
	Yeah.
	It's like, what?
	What's wrong with you?
	Yeah.
	Like, why are you people suddenly, like, as soon as you think Trump's out the door, you're like, great, done with him.
	We want to be leftists, but the left are really crazy.
	That seems to be the position they've got.
	Pathetic.
	So I wonder how many of the mainstream dinos are there that we don't know.
	Ryan Batson, I'm imagining Brian Stelter standing over Trump's deactivated Twitter account and poking it with a stick.
	Come on, do something.
	That's what they're all doing, in fact.
	I watched a video a few weeks ago that was Brian Walden talking about immigration and Enoch Powell.
	It was amazing hearing Walden admitting Powell had a valid view despite him being an MP for Labour at the time.
	What's interesting though is I watched a debate between Jonathan Miller and Enoch Powell years ago.
	One of the things that struck me from it was the quality, the level of quality of the debate was very, very high.
	But the other thing that struck me was that Enoch Powell was saying one day London might become one third non-English.
	Birmingham might be one third non-English.
	It's like, yeah, maybe they will one day.
	Moving on.
	One day ten years ago.
	Twenty years ago.
	2021 census is going to be very interesting.
	Just saying.
	Gem Rees says, Yeah, but that requires us to have a George Soros figure to fund these things, and we don't.
	So, um...
	Yeah.
	I mean, this is, like, if someone, like, what I love is when we get accused of being, like, you know, shills or backed, like, occasionally, like, leftist, like, you're being paid by the Koch brothers or something.
	It's like, well, how?
	How?
	Where do I go?
	Send me the application form.
	Like, I will happily take Koch brothers' money if it means that I don't have to worry about constantly running out of money.
	Whereas the Open Foundation, like, their documents keep getting leaked and we keep getting the names of everyone involved that they're funding.
	Yeah.
	Well, like this Time article, Mark Zuckerberg gives us $300 million.
	You're funded by Mark Zuckerberg?
	Yeah.
	How do we get access to this?
	We have to do the honest work, goddammit, which is why we've constantly got to be like, sign up at lesliezer.com so we've got rent money next month.
	If I had $300 million, I wouldn't care.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I wouldn't even have a membership function.
	Why would that matter?
	You know?
	So apparently this lady was appointed as an undersecretary to the Synod of Bishops, so she's not a bishop herself.
	But she does have voting rights within there, which is weird.
	You would have thought they would have taken this away.
	The popes are progressive.
	It's only a matter of time until he starts appointing women bishops.
	Yeah, calling it.
	Yeah.
	Rissim, I watched a video a few weeks ago that was...
	Oh no, I did that one, right?
	Those who had sacrificed liberty for Gibbs deserve neither, says Robert Evans, but presumably was Benjamin Franklin, in fact.
	Benjamin Danklin on Twitter.
	Maxwell Silverhammer.
	Callum, I love your sweet whispers at the end of the podcast.
	Okay, this is going that direction that I didn't like.
	Something rather appealing as it fades into your neo-elevator music.
	That's insulting too.
	Our elevator music's great.
	Heathcliff again.
	I thought you might say Hitler was an example of a democratically elected socialist.
	Damn, he got you.
	What?
	He is.
	But I don't think it's accurate to say that he gained power democratically.
	He did.
	He did, though.
	He was in a coalition government.
	He won the votes.
	Like, sure, he sat out his essay to beat people up, but sort of the downs of Black Lives Matter, so...
	Yeah, exactly.
	But then we don't consider them legitimately elected either, do we?
	Yikes.
	Damn.
	Hoisted by our own petard.
	Is there any other part of that comment?
	You see, his party sees power undemocratically in a time of crisis.
	I don't know.
	I think you can make the argument that Hitler was elected into a coalition and then took over using force.
	What's irritating as well is the fascists of Rome, the march on Rome, they promoted this and also everyone else has, that they turned up, marched and said, make us dictator.
	No, they got elected.
	No, they turned up.
	They demanded it of the king.
	The prime minister wrote an alert to the king asking to declare martial law.
	The king said no.
	And then they did it through the means of the constitution to make him in charge.
	Right, right, right.
	So it's like, even there, it was legally done.
	But isn't that frightening?
	Yes.
	But I mean, look at what's happening now.
	I saw Michael Tracy talking about the time article and going, well, none of this was illegal.
	It's like, I don't know about that sport.
	I mean, like, the fascists got in charge legally in Italy.
	But just because something's legal doesn't mean it's moral.
	Exactly.
	But even then, it's like, okay, yeah, exactly.
	Okay, so something can be legally done.
	Maybe we need to think about that.
	Would there be a good argument to reinstate the need for property as a requirement for voting?
	Perhaps real estate is a step too far.
	However, since there is much personal property taxed or income taxed as a basis for the franchise, too many voters have no consequences of their vote.
	Yeah, well, I think if it's going to be anything like that, it's going to be tied to taxes.
	Taxes paid.
	Why not property?
	Is that our core tenant of dadism?
	We must buy a house.
	It's about getting on the property ladder these days, isn't it?
	British property ladder.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But no, I think paying taxes is a fair requirement.
	I don't see it as bad.
	Anyone can get a job.
	And those people who don't want to get jobs, do we need them voting?
	They're just going to vote for Gibbs.
	Yeah, but what if I lose my job?
	Like, what if my company goes bust and I'm like...
	Okay, well, I mean, I'm not saying the standard is you have to have paid tax in the last five minutes.
	It could be in the last five years if you've paid more than, you know, £10,000 tax a year.
	If you've been out of a job for five years, it's like, eh.
	Well, why have you been out of a job for five years?
	Like, it's a form of freeloading, I might say.
	And we'll talk about freeloading in a podcast we're going to do.
	Yeah, we will.
	About the guilds.
	Yeah, we're going to do a premium podcast talking about medieval guilds and stakeholder capitalism.
	Because there's a remarkable synergy in the concepts there, and it's actually really interesting where I've gone with this.
	Just for anyone who doesn't know, it's sort of like an ethical form of corporations, which is what the leftists are always pushing.
	Why is Ben and Jerry so ethical?
	It's what the Great Reset folks are pushing as well.
	But it's not ethical.
	It's robbery.
	It's daylight robbery.
	Daylight robbery.
	Anyway, the term fortified election...
	Oh no, we read that already.
	Oh no, it's just another person saying the same thing.
	The term fortified election makes me physically ill.
	Fortified doesn't here bring to mind a castle, but someone applying illicit additives to the draft of liberty.
	It is as putinist as managed democracy.
	Yeah, the term managed democracy, fortified election is very similar to that, isn't it?
	Wolfgang Day is sarcastically, some Trump supporter did something nice for me without asking anything in return.
	Absolute scum of the earth, those people.
	Yeah, they're terrible.
	Milk...
	G'day, big fellas.
	Day 8 in COVID lockdown here in Perth, Western Australia.
	Zero cases in eight days in a row so far.
	Still in lockdown.
	I miss freedom.
	What sense does that make?
	Zero cases for over a week.
	Why are we locked down, you know?
	I mean, at least there are cases here.
	Like, we're still in a lockdown, obviously.
	We have been since Christmas.
	Before Christmas.
	Yeah, since November, in fact, last year.
	But, I mean, at least there is COVID here, you know?
	Small mercies, I guess.
	Pixel, alone you're enough.
	I prefer individualism to being by myself.
	It's a fine distinction.
	It's a very clear distinction, to be honest.
	Being alone is not the essence of individualism.
	No one expects you to be alone.
	That's the thing.
	Humans are social creatures.
	Being alone is actually usually a punishment.
	That's what ostracism is.
	That's what cancel culture is.
	You know, that's a punishment.
	And yet the left are offering it as, hey, this is what we're going to give you.
	It's like, why?
	Torbjorn Kvalheim says, unfortunate name there, Doctor?
	Look, I don't think you're the one that wants to talk about.
	Says Norwegian.
	Yeah, but what was the Doctor's name?
	Dr.
	Reinhardt, wasn't it?
	Or are you talking about someone else?
	Rectonwald?
	How have you said it?
	I don't know.
	Michael Rectonwald.
	Maybe this guy's got a point.
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	Pixel says, China equals techno-authoritarianism.
	Correct.
	Charlie the Beagle says, regarding science and politics, it's simply, science is good when it agrees with my politics.
	This goes for left and right.
	Yes.
	That's all of science, it seems.
	Charlie the Beagle, also check out King Crocoduck on YouTube, who explained SJWs in science and the fight against it.
	Yeah, King Crocoduck's been doing great work for many a year now.
	Really like the guy.
	Yeah, and there's one that doesn't go away as well.
	These are the two factions in Rome, obviously, for anyone who doesn't know.
	Towards the end of the Republic, and it was the popularis who won.
	But Caesar was kind of a traitorous optimate.
	So, um...
	DRT is king.
	The governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis, didn't wear a mask at the game either.
	When asked, he says, how am I supposed to drink beer through a mask?
	Great question, Ron.
	Great question.
	Everyone else was asking the same thing, I don't doubt.
	The Bees Knees says, Yep.
	It's going to be one rule for Black Lives Matter and one rule for you mask people who didn't wear your masks.
	Ace Kuala says the Congressional Budget Office has just put out a report saying the federal minimum wage should be put to one should put 100 million people out of work.
	Wow, that's pretty pretty damning if that's the case.
	But to be honest with you, I'm just shocked that there are still 100 million people in work.
	Alexandru says...
	That's like a third of the country.
	Well, that's a third of the overall population of the country.
	I don't know what the working population is.
	Probably about 200 million.
	Sheesh.
	Not that they've lost enough jobs already, I guess.
	Alexander Alexandru says, you say that these are the moves of Sulla.
	Well, Bodade did.
	But to me, it looks like the Patricians have just come out and admitted to stabbing Caesar, and Mark Antony has not yet recited his eulogy.
	P.S., you still haven't read it, have you?
	I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be reading there, but...
	I can definitely see the analogy there, because after Caesar was stabbed, the senators came out into the streets and were saying, oh, the tyrant's dead, the tyrant's dead.
	But the thing is, this had been literally generations of civil wars at this point, and Caesar was offering stability and peace.
	And so everyone was just like, oh, God.
	You know, this is all going to carry on.
	And so there was no cheering.
	There was no rejoicing.
	There was no anger.
	You know, people weren't, like, rioting and stuff, but they were just like, oh, God, this is just never going to end.
	And, of course, it went into another civil war.
	So, you know.
	Before Luther, the church controlled the interpretation of the Bible, and mass chaos ensued after everyone could interpret it themselves.
	The internet has done the same to the media and info, and we are seeing them lose control.
	Yes.
	Student Fistry says, sorry, fish and chips is bland as dirt, and bacon burger supreme is amazing love from America Brothers.
	Okay, right.
	Two things.
	One, you're banned.
	So, no, fish and chips is not bland at all.
	Like, what the hell is that?
	Like, honestly, you put salt and vinegar on, perfect, right?
	I'm not a fan of the fish.
	Oh, God.
	I don't like the batter.
	Why do you want to eat batter?
	I don't get it.
	It's nice.
	It's not nice.
	Soak it in vinegar and salt.
	It's delicious.
	And I can't even eat anymore.
	I crave battered fish now.
	And chips.
	And man, I tell you, salt and vinegar chips smells amazing these days.
	I'm going to start bringing freshly baked bread into the office.
	Only if you want to get fired.
	Don't fire me.
	The Quality Act actually protects me to do that.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Hello, I can torture my boss under the Equality Act.
	Yeah, yeah, I can.
	So there was a vegan or vegetarian, I can't remember, who got fired on the basis that the guy didn't like him being a vegan or vegetarian, and he sued under the Equality Act in the UK, which is protected for your beliefs at the end, so not just race, gender.
	And he won.
	He won the case, saying, look, you discriminate on the basis of his beliefs about animal cruelty, therefore he's a vegan.
	But if you fire me on the basis that I believe in anti-ketoism, you will actually get in trouble.
	This is why workers' rights were a mistake.
	I love bread.
	But the second point I was going to make is that bacon burger...
	Americans don't have bacon.
	Americans have, like, rinds, like, just fat.
	There is no meat on American bacon, and it's embarrassing, to be honest.
	It's the shame of your country, and you should understand as such.
	Acme Products, though.
	Great show today, guys.
	Nine out of ten burgers.
	That's such a great running joke.
	Every American who ever does anything on our site, you have to measure it in burgers.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Zeru says, where the elite are good, I'm an elitist.
	Where the elite are corrupt, I'm a populist.
	Yeah, I guess.
	I don't think I'd ever want to describe myself as an elitist.
	It seems to have the wrong connotations for me, but I mean, where the elite are good, I'm not going to be antagonistic to them.
	I'm going to say, well, they're doing the right thing.
	That's all I need to say.
	Mr. Tucker, CNN is super excited to be the turn floating closest to the top.
	I can't wait for all of them to get flushed.
	That's a great way of putting it.
	Easy.
	CNN down 44% in viewership per month.
	I'm not quite sure, but that sounds like almost half a burger's worth.
	Hashtag burger system over the metric system.
	Well, I mean, in your defense, the metric system is continental.
	So that's correct.
	The burger system is superior to the metric system.
	I mean, I know exactly how many burgers we're talking about here.
	Whereas if you say, you know, like, you know, I don't know, you know, 320 pounds.
	How much is that?
	That's not European.
	Is it?
	No, it's imperial.
	Oh, goddammit.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	300 kilograms.
	Show me...
	How much is 300 kilograms?
	Show me an estimate.
	You don't know, but I can tell you how many burgers that is.
	The burger man makes a good point here.
	They do.
	Jaffa on the bound.
	After viewership went away because we watched both sides and we are done with them.
	Let's hope so.
	EZE. Why do journos sound like Trump's salty ex-girlfriends who can't understand living without their orange sugar daddy?
	Yeah, they do sound like they are literally Trump's exes and he's blocked them on Twitter.
	Yeah, well, I can't stalk his profiles anymore.
	I don't know what to do with myself.
	He's probably cheating on me.
	Yeah, which is essentially an abandonment of ethics, unfortunately.
	Yeah, they put a huge amount more stock in Twitter than anyone else does, which is why Trump was able to lead them around by the nose with it.
	Yeah, I'm the same, actually.
	I only really read Trump's tweets when they came up in the news.
	Like, it's not that I didn't like Trump's Twitter activity.
	I thought it was great.
	It's just that I didn't...
	As long as he was winding up the journos, I didn't really need to follow it every five seconds.
	Thug Life Bear.
	Trump fulfilled Disraeli's working-class aristocrat alliance, and the Midwits weren't capable of understanding it.
	Correct.
	They have a flawed class understanding.
	That's correct.
	So does Callum.
	And that's grounds from which I can fire him.
	Scroll up, John.
	Yeah, you can do that.
	Excellent.
	Turwox says, been listening to a history of Western philosophy at work today?
	Bought it on Audible after you mentioned it.
	We need to get an Audible link that we can make some money out of this from.
	Because...
	Sorry?
	Oh, we can't.
	Okay.
	Apparently Audible told us no, so thanks Audible.
	Yeah, thanks Audible.
	Don't buy it on audible.com!
	I think I might have to listen to it more than once, but enjoying it so far?
	Yeah, it's really good.
	Bertrand Russell's a great writer.
	Larry Romano, I suspect is Dobbs was fired two hours before his show was to air the same day.
	The timepiece came out.
	All of the other major hosts have said Mum and Dobbs had consistently criticized the Chamber of Commerce.
	Yeah, I mean, I didn't want to say that this is the case because I don't know.
	But, I mean, it is very suspicious.
	I would like to know what's going on at Fox News right now.
	I would.
	This is why I'm very surprised that Tucker Carlson said nothing.
	Because if any of them are in an impenetrable position, it's Tucker.
	And he's always on the right side of the argument.
	He addresses these things correctly.
	And the fact that he hadn't addressed anything is very interesting.
	Wendy says, I have a theory.
	You two guys are related.
	I predict you are cousins.
	You don't look alike, but share a lot of the same facial features.
	My husband agrees.
	Am I right?
	No.
	No.
	Art Circle.
	In a world that glorifies vanity, the only truth is one...
	We did have a weird...
	Nah, I'll...
	Do we?
	It's a stupid theory.
	I'll go into it another time.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	In a world that glorifies vanity, the only truth is one that's convenient.
	When there's only convenient truth, it's always them.
	Mr.
	Finkelwitz.
	I don't know what that's from.
	Something in Chinese?
	Can you translate that, John?
	I often hear phrases such as gender spectrum and trans women are women maligned by the rights.
	In their most reasonable interpretation, I think these concepts are rather innocuous.
	Is there any way to convince you of this?
	No.
	Frankly.
	I don't, I mean, gender spectrum I could agree with a reasonable interpretation of, but trans women are women, I think there's too much in there to unpack that would take it out of the realm of being reasonable.
	But I mean, feel free to write an argument.
	I'm happy to hear it.
	It's also the unreasonable nature in which it's claimed, like saying there is no God but Allah.
	It's like the conclusion's already gone then.
	All right.
	Where's the debate?
	Yeah.
	Andy Glasscock says, Hey Carl, I often hear you compare America to Napoleonic France and the Roman Empire.
	I feel the best comparison would be pre-Franco Spain.
	I wonder if you thought this was an apt comparison.
	To be honest with you, I actually don't know much about pre-Franco Spain, so I don't tend to make that comparison.
	Just through ignorance, really.
	So you may be right.
	Do you know much about it?
	No.
	No.
	Sorry.
	I watched a movie about it the other day.
	I sent you the link.
	Oh, did you?
	I need to watch it, yeah.
	It's not enough to really make a comment.
	No.
	I'd have to do some reading into it, and unfortunately I'm just busy on other subjects at the moment.
	Mathis says, the words in the show were alone hours enough long.
	That's a weird collection of words.
	So it's not even a sentence that they're, you know, long enough hours alone, maybe?
	But, like, we...
	I feel like you're reading too much into the morons who make these things.
	Well, you say that, but I don't think they are morons.
	No, no, as in trying to make a sentence.
	I think the words they're using, they've got something to, but...
	Maybe, yeah, yeah.
	I don't think it's meant to be grammatical.
	But it just comes across looking really uninviting to me.
	Wolfgang Deo, you don't need a First Amendment, just accept our Declaration of Independence.
	It's where free speech comes from.
	First Amendment is a government restriction.
	Well, I mean, we do need a First Amendment, that's the problem.
	Anyway, Gary Tallowen, socialists have realised that Woke's cover has been blown and GB News sounds like a plan B. I don't want to be that cynical.
	I don't doubt that Andrew Neal has good intentions, and if he's going to get people like Farage on board, he's not woke, and Farage isn't going to go woke, so that's a good start.
	I'm cynical, but it's not because I don't think they're trying to promote leftism or anything like this.
	I worry that they won't see it when it's happening.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I worry that they've been too close to the thing for a long time and don't realise the way it works.
	So they're kind of standing on it and saying, well, we don't like this platform we're standing on.
	We've got a couple more comments from the site, so let's get those.
	The booing of Biden is real.
	I watched the Super Bowl live and I remember the booing.
	The tweet amplifies it where the TV stations simply try to suppress it.
	Right, okay, that's interesting.
	Yeah, we were unable to confirm any of this stuff, and so the gap in the booing looked suspect.
	It looked like it had been tampered with.
	If that's how it was tampered with, Fair enough.
	Wolfgang Deo here.
	Hey, man.
	May as well start not paying YouTube so much.
	That's true.
	Insert a name bickering about something you talked about earlier in the podcast that I can't remember what's triggering now.
	Oh, God.
	It could have been anything, couldn't it?
	Promotion of dadism?
	No clue what British bacon is, but American bacon is better than Canadian bacon.
	Way better.
	All that fat, no meat.
	Meat means delicious.
	11 out of 10 burgers, whereas your bacon is minus 1 out of 10 burgers.
	Honestly, Brian, I mean, I don't want to have to come and burn down the White House again, but you're getting really close to it.
	Just letting you know.
	My good guys would cheer you on.
	What's the problem?
	No, that's a good point.
	That's a good point.
	No, look...
	You want a good amount of fat around the edge, but you want good solid meat, because that's where the salt is.
	You want a nice salty bacon with lots of fat on it.
	It's a meat product, not a fat product.
	Yeah, exactly.
	There's that too.
	And a cheese product isn't the liquid.
	Yeah.
	Student of History.
	Didn't the Scots say confuse the English on purpose?
	Maybe.
	That's a charitable interpretation of the Scots Jackson.
	Alistair says the season of Ireland when it's men versus women survival.
	Yes.
	Moving on.
	It's worth watching.
	Gareth Green.
	I've been in reparative therapy for my same-sex addiction attractions since my teens, and when my original therapist died a few years ago, no one got in trouble for celebrating his death online.
	Wow, that's...
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's in America.
	Student of history again.
	Imagine being such a smooth-brain that you allow the guys who mugged you to bribe you with some of the money he stole from you.
	Yeah.
	That's basically it.
	And not even giving you as much back as he promised.
	Like, I'm going to give you $2,000.
	Oh, here's $1,400.
	It's like, oh, well, $1,000 arrived.
	What, $500?
	You're getting scammed.
	Trust the government.
	Primitive.
	What's the thought on how we are born into taxes?
	Age inside, there's no opt-out.
	Yes, we are indeed born into taxes.
	That's why the two constants of the universe are death and taxes.
	Tom F. Premium content.
	Is Cheez Whiz, Whiz Cheese?
	I don't even think we need an investigation into this, to be honest.
	I can imagine us doing a BuzzFeed-style video about it, though.
	Like, this is what the Americans call cheese, and they'll just mock it.
	Maybe we should do that.
	Yeah, we give this three out of five burgers.
	Epstein didn't kill himself.
	Cheese spread is cheese mixed with vegetable oil in order to stay soft and spreadable.
	It doesn't sound good, though.
	It sounds like you're pandering to the vegans, to be honest.
	TexasSP says, I was arguing that our healthcare keeps more people alive, but is more expensive.
	Someone did a number crunch and found out that more people died in 10 years here than in the UK, two times as much, and we're 4.5 times bigger.
	Oh, right, I'd have to look that up.
	Zeranx says, if you're the leaseholder for an apartment, flat, or foremost, name on the mortgage, you get the vote.
	Return one vote per household, set it before.
	It's an option.
	Service Guaranteed Citizenship says, keep doing what you're doing.
	I would like to know more.
	Thank you very much.
	We're doing our best.
	Galacta Watkins, Let's See This Podcast gets 11 out of 10 repatriated fish.
	Deep fried in batter repatriated fish.
	Do you know where that comes from, actually?
	The deep frying of fish.
	It's going to be like India or something, isn't it?
	No, it's Jewish immigrants who came out of London.
	So in the Jewish quarter, it started to become popular.
	Thank you for the fried fish.
	It's delicious.
	Philip Abudi says, Lenny and Carl from The Simpsons, you tits.
	Oh, right, okay, fair enough.
	Anyway.
	What's that in relation to?
	It's an earlier comment.
	Right.
	Is Diane Abbott's hair real?
	I don't know.
	To be honest, it does look a bit fake.
	Like the way she has a heart.
	I assume it's just lots of products are used on it.
	I don't know.
	I don't think about hair.
	What do I know about Diana's hair?
	Oh, it's Johnny.
	He's our beautician.
	Right, John.
	It looks like a wig, according to John.
	The professional opinion is it's a wig.
	I disavow John's opinion, just in case that's hate speech in some way.
	Yeah, it might be racist.
	Anyway, thank you everyone for joining us.
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	We've got loads up there, so if you've got nothing else to watch, and let's be honest, is there anything else on the internet worth watching other than us?
	Obviously not.
	And so, in that vein, we'll be back tomorrow, same time, 1pm UK time.
	Shut up, we are the best thing on the internet.
	No, there's something else to watch, but I can't say it.

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