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Feb. 8, 2021 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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	Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Seaters for Monday, the 8th of February 2021.
	Today I'm joined by Callum, and before we begin, you can go to lotusseaters.com and check out our range of premium content.
	We do a lot of other content that we don't feature on the YouTube channels or any of the other public face and social media that we do.
	The most recent one was a premium podcast talking about where Christopher Hitchens would fall in the modern culture wars.
	And given his record and the railing against the Clinton family and generally that kind of internationalist establishment that took over the Democrats and Republicans, I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have at least been able to see the virtue of the contrarian position that would have been endorsing Donald Trump.
	But anyway, let's start with the Time Magazine confession.
	But really, there is just nothing else worth talking about than this article.
	And this obviously went viral over the weekend, as it sort of got picked up on Friday.
	By various, both sides of the aisle, in fact.
	And the Twitter ratioing was quite interesting, but we'll get to that in a minute.
	But before we start, I'll just read a couple of segments out of it, just to make sure that we're all on the same page and our memories are refreshed.
	So when referring to a conspiracy theory, they say, in a way, Trump was right.
	There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs.
	This is the inside story of the conspiracy to save the 2020 election, based on access to the group's inner workings, never-before-seen documents, and interviews with dozens of those involved from across the political spectrum.
	It is the story of an unprecedented, creative and determined campaign whose success reveals how close a nation came to disaster.
	Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated.
	But it's massively important for the country to understand that this didn't happen accidentally.
	The system didn't work magically.
	Democracy is not self-executing.
	That's why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream.
	A well-funded cabal of powerful people ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage, and control the flow of information.
	They were not rigging the election, they were fortifying it.
	And they believe the public needs to understand the system's fragility in order to ensure that democracy in America endures.
	I hate everything about this.
	I hate everything about this.
	I mean, it's just literally the very framing.
	If Trump wins, democracy loses, which doesn't make any sense.
	Because the way that further on in the article they're complaining is people, Trump had a huge upswell in support.
	See, but that's not a conspiracy.
	That's not Trump, like, organizing people to, like, fix ballots or something.
	That's people voting for Trump, which is what democracy is.
	And so, anyway, there's nothing else to talk about.
	If you are going to just overlook the self-admitted conspiracy, the fever dream, the scope of it, then it seems that there's no future for right-wing politics, frankly.
	It seems like the right have lost.
	This obviously got ratioed on Twitter.
	If we can go to the Twitter responses, it's got heavily ratioed.
	And the arguments against were very numerous, and the arguments for were very, very weak.
	The arguments for essentially...
	The arguments for rigging an election, huh?
	Can't imagine they're great.
	Well, they exist, and it's exactly the kind of people who you'd expect it gave them.
	Orange Man Bad?
	Orange Man Bad, sort of 40-something Karens, the Wine Ants, people out there saying, no, that's not what it said.
	It didn't say that.
	We're fortifying the election.
	Stuff like this.
	It's like...
	Okay, whatever you say, right?
	I don't believe you.
	But you had some great comments.
	Like, one of them was, folks were booted off Twitter because they dared to suggest what this article fully admits.
	Completely true.
	Like, people were, like, they had their Twitter account suspended on YouTube.
	I don't even know what the legality of us being able to talk about this article is on YouTube.
	We're just going to have to do it anyway because this is important stuff.
	Someone said, yep, the article said, it sounds like a paranoid fever dream, but here's why we did it.
	Yeah, that's basically it.
	Another one is the audacity to put this article out there while banning and cancelling everyone who said these exact same things for months is astonishing.
	Yeah, it's staggering.
	It's absolutely staggering.
	Like 95% against 5% for would be a fairly, you know, that would be my rough estimation of the responses that I saw.
	People kept posting things like this video from senile Joe.
	Can we play this, John, just to remind people of exactly how out in the open all of this has been?
	We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.
	So that was fact-checked by Time magazine.
	That's true.
	I mean, where's the lie?
	That's literally the fever dream that Joe Biden has described there seems to have been put out by Time magazine.
	The right-wing media, of course, reported on this, but not extensively, not nearly as extensively as I would have liked.
	Like, Fox News put out an article or two, and a couple of other places did put out, like, single articles, but it seems that none of them really know what to make of it.
	I mean, if we can scroll down, we can see a list of sort of right-wing pundits who get to get featured with a bunch of tweets.
	But it's like, okay, look...
	Can we scroll down this one, John, so we can see the sort of people.
	So we've got Don Jr.
	Keep going down, please.
	Down further, further, further.
	Further, further, further.
	All the way down.
	There we go.
	So you've got Don Jr., Laura Boebert, and stuff like this.
	And they're like, oh, they're just coming out and admitting it.
	Yeah, okay.
	They seem to be coming out and admitting it.
	Don't you have senators and congressmen who can do something now?
	Shouldn't you be taking some kind of legal action at this point?
	How is this not evidence?
	Shouldn't your dad be upset, Don?
	Yeah.
	You know?
	I mean, what the hell is going on here?
	It turns out many of Trump's conspiracy theories were correct.
	Well, I mean, that's only by the confession.
	And we can't actually take a confession as an admission of proof.
	It just happens that they happen to have all of the other connective tissues of the alleged conspiracy in the article.
	But yeah, so it's like, okay, so what are you going to do?
	What are you going to do when they just come out and say, yeah, we fortified it, and that's why democracy won and Donald Trump didn't, even though people wanted to vote for him.
	What are you going to do?
	There were various, well, actually, I say various, but there were only one or two articles from the left that were even referencing this.
	The first one, the only one I thought was of any note was this one from the Daily Dot.
	I mean, rightly put, Times election conspiracy article couldn't have been better framed for the far right.
	LAUGHTER Well, I mean, that's true.
	Like, time could have picked a better word than cabal.
	Or conspiracy.
	Or conspiracy, but...
	Or fortifying the election.
	Yeah, but I mean, if you're doing journalism, and those are accurate words that describe the situation...
	What a criticism, though.
	It's not a criticism of anything that's going on, it's just like, your framing of how these things were illegally done is bad, because it helps the right.
	Not because you're doing these illegal things is bad, but it helps the right say things.
	Telling people the left cheated makes the right look good.
	Okay.
	I mean, they say that conservatives have basically accepted that Joe Biden won, and now a lengthy Time magazine article is reigniting their baseless conspiracy theories.
	Baseless.
	Baseless.
	Okay.
	Literally, hi guys, this is how we conspired to fix the election.
	That's a baseless conspiracy theory time.
	Why have you put that out?
	It's like, what are you talking about?
	They're naming all of the people involved.
	Like, we can literally name them.
	Like, Mark Podhauser, Brad Raffensperger, Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey.
	I can't remember the woman's name who organized the thing between Jack Dorsey and Zuckerberg off the top of my head.
	But it's like, these people are all named.
	What are you talking about?
	Baseless conspiracy.
	What are...
	Anyway.
	The dozens of sources Time spoke with, some for the first time, want Americans to know how close the country came to losing its democracy in the hopes that few will take it for granted.
	Democracy won in the end, the piece concludes.
	The will of the people prevailed, but it's crazy in retrospect that this is what it took to put on an election in the United States of America.
	Put on?
	Put on an election.
	Like it's a show.
	Like, it's a show.
	Like, I mean, there was a proper, preordained conclusion that they came to remember.
	And if they hadn't done all of this work behind the scenes, it's very difficult to make sure a democracy functions in America, then Trump may have won by getting more votes than Joe Biden.
	It's very difficult to make a democracy function in America.
	It just sounds like you're rigging it.
	Yeah.
	Like, it's very difficult to make sure it works properly, you know?
	Yeah.
	Well, we've got a proper outcome.
	You could just sit back and let people vote, but nah.
	But then we'll get Donald Trump again.
	You don't want that to happen twice.
	But anyway, conservatives have a completely different takeaway.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	To them, the article says the election was indeed stolen from Trump.
	They're clinging to a single line to prove this theory.
	A single line?
	What are you talking about?
	That's the paranoid fever dream line, by the way.
	And, you know, there was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes.
	Those pointing to it as evidence of a stolen election range from members of Congress to right-wing media to QAnon conspiracy theorists to Proud Boys.
	So yeah, and anyone else who has read the article...
	Madison Cawthorn posted this quote to his Telegram channel and Twitter account saying, Well, I mean, they said it in the article.
	Trump was right.
	There was a conspiracy.
	It's literally in the article.
	So there is a good reason why they believe that this proves what Trump has been saying.
	So the question is, was Molly Bowles reporting in the article accurate or not?
	And to be honest with you, it seemed pretty accurate.
	I mean, if you look at her Twitter feed, as we just did, you can see her retweeting various luminaries and checkmarks who have been saying things like this brilliantly researched, brilliant article, thanks for putting all this together.
	And it's like, right.
	So no one's questioning the quality of her journalism, and no one's questioning the...
	No one on the left is saying this is wrong.
	Yeah, no one's saying this is not true.
	No one has yet to denounce it as incorrect.
	It's just that it gives credence to the right wing's allegations that the election was stolen when the left comes out and says, yes, we stole the election.
	That's the only criticism.
	I mean, it is a criticism.
	I haven't seen any criticisms like, you know, these people weren't involved.
	Oh, you're just making stuff up.
	Why are you helping the far right by coming up with these conspiracy theories?
	You know, something like that.
	None of them are saying that any of these things are factually incorrect.
	It's just, well, you could have framed it better.
	You could have framed it that makes it look like we're good guys.
	You could have hidden us a little bit better, couldn't you?
	But, yeah, so it seems to matter little that the article actually describes an effort to protect rather than subvert democracy...
	Disagree.
	Irrespective of its intentions and the actual thrust of the story, Time magazine may have reignited the stolen election fire.
	Again...
	It's only because they said it!
	I guess so.
	I guess Time Magazine is at fault here.
	And no one else, right?
	Not the people fortifying the election.
	But then you get the people who come out and be like, actually, rigging elections is a great idea.
	Like Femi, the rabid Remainer, anti-Brexit.
	Yeah.
	Democracy has defeated Trump, but when it comes to Brexit, it's failed all of us.
	So basically, Femi is lamenting that we didn't, you know, fortify the Brexit vote in the same way that Trump's election was fortified.
	Uh...
	Exactly the same sort of thing.
	So what if the only reason our capital didn't erupt into violence is because we're better than America?
	What if it's because, unlike America, our system wasn't democratic enough to allow the majority of voters to stop Brexit?
	Okay, hang on.
	So we're talking about democratic, right?
	Yeah.
	We had a referendum in which one man, one vote, and literally whoever gets the most votes win.
	Yeah.
	You could not ask for a more direct democratic system.
	Democracy failed because Brexit won.
	The proper winners didn't win, in Femi's view.
	Absolute lunatic.
	Pro-rigging, I would say.
	But yeah, so, and it's amazing, right?
	What I love about his framing here is like, what if it's just because, unlike America, our system wasn't democratic enough to allow the majority of voters to stop Brexit, even though the majority of voters wanted it?
	What if we've simply let the beast loose, rather than risk getting scratched trying to cage it?
	It's like, Femi, do you think it stops here?
	Do you think that America's problems are over now?
	Because this happened.
	Do you think, oh, well, then we go.
	I mean, what's with all the soldiers in the capital, Femi, if this is just where the American story ends?
	But, oh, no, our rampaging beast of Brexit is out terrorizing the countryside or something.
	Nothing bad's going to happen in America, Femi.
	I mean, don't worry about it.
	It's just such a short-sighted and, honestly, small-brained take.
	I mean, this is the weird, pathetic response you get, which is just, you know, Donald Trump's been defeated, therefore everything's good, everything's over from the leftist.
	Yeah.
	Donald Trump was not the architect of these things, Donald Trump was a symptom of these things.
	Also, like, his supporters haven't magically disappeared.
	The people who voted him haven't magically disappeared either.
	Yeah, exactly.
	The 74.5 million Americans who voted for Trump are still there, and they still vote, and they can read Time magazine if they want.
	But anyway, obviously, I don't know what punishment we're going to get for talking about this.
	I imagine there probably will be some kind of punishment.
	I mean, if they're going to admit...
	How dare you quote, well-known disinformation outlet, Time magazine.
	I know, what right-wing conspiracy theory is this?
	But I mean, like other comments have said, the Time magazine piece just makes the claims that everyone else was getting suspended for.
	That YouTube has editorial policies against.
	I wonder if Time has a YouTube account.
	I mean, maybe they do.
	I mean, even Tim Pool got censored for this.
	This is what he tweeted out, right?
	I don't think it even matters at this point.
	Time Magazine just came out and said that a cabal of elites rigged the election.
	I'm sorry, they said they didn't rig the election.
	They fortified it by changing the rules and laws, as well as manipulating the flow of information.
	And Twitter had not only added the caption to it, this claim of election fraud is disputed, and this tweet can't be replied to, retweeted, or liked due to the risk of violence.
	Sure.
	to the gateway pundit where they had found another uh video of the uh vote mobile vans turning up at three o'clock four o'clock in the morning and unloading boxes of ballots to give biden that f curve that he so desperately needed what's super interesting that is okay her tweet was let's just say quarantine because that's what these people are doing But if you retweeted that, people could respond to you, is my understanding.
	But they especially then quarantined Tim here for saying that Time Magazine is telling the truth.
	Yeah.
	Or Time Magazine is alleging it.
	Just for saying Time Magazine alleges X, you can get quarantined.
	And the thing is, this claim of election fraud is disputed.
	Not anymore.
	What?
	No one's disputing it.
	Tell me which major outlet is saying that Time Magazine's lying.
	Yeah, I want to know.
	And Tim Pool, in fact, we can go to the next one, John.
	He just was like, fact-check, true, with the Time Magazine link.
	I mean, that's correct.
	If that's a verified official source that we can trust, then surely we can take that information and extrapolate from it.
	And like I said, I don't know what YouTube is going to do to us for talking about this.
	I don't know what the...
	You know, this seems well off the reservation.
	I don't know anything about widespread voter fraud that stole the election from Trump, but I do know that Time Magazine are making that very allegation.
	Progressives were conspiring to change laws and to influence media and to...
	Control the flow of information.
	And yeah, exactly.
	I mean, like, you know, just the kind of evil stuff that usually gets denounced, but apparently is now kosher.
	Yeah, as long as it's for stopping Trump.
	But yeah, Cassandra Fairbanks, of course, was suspended from Twitter for like 12 hours for posting video evidence of things happening.
	Which, I mean, if we can get the next one up, I haven't actually really looked into this because we saw the things happening on the night.
	Yeah, I think the Gateway Pundit's been deleted from Twitter as well.
	Yes, yes.
	Jim Hoff and the Gateway Pundit itself have both been deleted from Twitter because...
	They published this article.
	Yeah, you're not allowed to...
	Allege things.
	Show the fortification of the election in process.
	You can only talk about it in Time magazine in a gloating manner afterwards.
	That's good.
	You can't allege that it happened, but if you were involved, you can gloat about it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's where we are.
	That is where we are right now.
	This is...
	I know, it's ridiculous, right?
	It sounds ridiculous.
	But anyway, the next thing I want to talk about is a really interesting visual graph, if we can get that up, John, of what this was.
	Now, this looks like a giant diseased mess, and with good reason, right?
	So, if you look at the colour schemes, this was sort of pro-Trump activists.
	The political right contrasted with the political left accounts on Twitter.
	And the red and the blue separate between.
	You can see the crossing over where the accounts end up sort of talking and interacting with each other.
	And the black spots, the sort of what makes it look like a diseased organ, are those accounts that got suspended.
	From Twitter on the same day that Donald Trump was suspended from Twitter.
	They all suspended around 100,000 other accounts, which is why so many Republicans ended up losing so many followers.
	I mean, literally, I think it was Lindsey Graham lost 100,000 followers on Twitter in that day.
	And that's what these diseased black spots are.
	You'll notice there's very few of them in the blue area.
	Very, very few in the blue area.
	They're almost all in the Republican area, and that should go to show you exactly the kind of political purge that went on on social media.
	And so this is looking kind of reminiscent of Sulla and his return to Rome to put things to right.
	Sulla was a member of the Optimates.
	He was a very competent general.
	He won all of his battles.
	He marched on Rome.
	He installs himself as the dictator of Rome to set the Republic back to right.
	And while doing this, he was lecturing the Senate while in a temple a short way across the road.
	Thousands and thousands of Marian supporters were being just shanked to death and And so Bo Dade wrote us a nice article talking about this.
	And I think it's worth quoting from a few of these bits because there is a genuinely kind of historic sequence of events playing out here.
	The same forces are at work.
	He says, The other,
	more obvious acceleration of events towards an increasingly possible death blow of the Republic is the occupation of DC by troops.
	As the days passed and the soldiers remained in the capital, I began to think about Sulla.
	Lucius Cornelius Sulla was one of those men who marched on Rome many years before Caesar did it.
	He was a tyrant.
	Sulla made lists of prescribed names, literally death lists of all his political opponents, something Caesar himself tried vigorously to avoid.
	Sulla was able to do such a thing because he controlled the army.
	With complete martial dominance of the city itself, there was no recourse against his will.
	Only darkness comes from such a situation.
	While DC remains under some form of military occupation, Biden increasingly seems to resemble a Sulla-like figure, metaphorically.
	How long before his digital prescriptions are made public?
	How long before actual political persecutions begin?
	Not long, I would suggest.
	And I think that's what Trump's show impeachment is about, which is the next segment we'll just roll on into, because I think this is all tied together.
	So yeah, let's talk about Trump's show trial that's going to be happening tomorrow.
	I personally agree with Lindsey Graham.
	This is totally unnecessary.
	They've destroyed Trump at this point.
	Politically, he is, I don't think, able to do much.
	He's certainly not able to influence the political and the media news cycle like he used to be because they ruined his social media presences.
	I believe he is on Gab, although I've yet to have that confirmed.
	I've just seen leftist media outlets saying it, and therefore I'm not going to take that word for it.
	But something was posted, a letter from his attorney was posted to his Gab account, or what is called his Gab account, so I don't know about that.
	Like, he has a verified account that used to just redo whatever he did on Twitter, and it's had this new update, but that could just be the guys who run it behind the scenes updating it more.
	Yeah, we're not sure.
	But Trump, now is the time to join Gab.
	Gab has now tens of millions of users.
	Trump should...
	Yeah, that's what we're discussing, John.
	Gab has tens of millions of users.
	It's rising in the rankings.
	Definitely use it.
	It seems to be the last secure social media place that can't be taking off the internet.
	Yeah, and then he can support every Republican saying that you guys also should come over and you can get all the established people on as well.
	I mean, that's what made Parler good is you started to get all the Republican establishment on it and it's the thing that makes Twitter exist is it has all the Democrat establishment on it.
	Yep.
	Twitter would not be useful or in any way politically relevant if they weren't all on there tweeting up whatever it was.
	And so this is what they have to do with Gap.
	As Parler, as I'm aware, is still not back yet.
	Although hopefully they're expecting to come back today, but let's be honest, it's going to be a shadow of its former self, isn't it?
	I don't think it's going to have the kind of oomph that it had before.
	But anyway, let's talk about Pelosi's big gambit.
	She's hoping that she can sway Republicans in the Senate to impeach Donald Trump, even though that's not likely to happen.
	I think that at this point, if there are any Republicans who are thinking about voting with the Democrats, then they're probably in the sort of Brad Raffensperger camp of being fingered in the conspiracy by Time magazine.
	I would really have a problem if I was a Republican, watching any Republicans going, well, I mean, we have to work with the Democrats on this.
	Are you serious?
	Work with them on what?
	Your continual destruction?
	How about you just stop for a minute?
	Think about what they're doing.
	The will that's animating the Democratic Party at the moment is an antithetical one.
	You're purchasing the rope that will hang you.
	Yes, exactly.
	Exactly.
	You think they're going to stop with you?
	You know, you think about, oh, well, you know, all the others are bad, but you're okay.
	You're in the club.
	Get out.
	Get out.
	These people are on the warpath.
	They are seeking to do as much damage as they can, and you have to resist them.
	Anyway, so anyway, yeah.
	So Pelosi is trying to get Republicans to defect, right?
	I love the way that she said this.
	We'll see if it's going to be a Senate of courage or cowardice, she added.
	The courageous thing would be to resist and stand up against this.
	But anyway, the allegations against Trump are that he incited a mob on the 6th of January, which resulted in the deadly riots at the Capitol.
	The allegations are detailed in a memo sent to the Senate where Trump is accused of whipping the crowd into a frenzy on that day, then aiming them like a loaded cannon at the US Capitol.
	It's quite being dramatic.
	Trump, we're going to peacefully march and make our voices heard.
	Them, ah!
	Sorry, it's childish.
	Childish misrepresentation.
	And The Hill actually published an article saying, actually, Trump didn't really do what we're accusing him of doing, and this seems unreasonable, and that he'll win in court.
	Looks like he might.
	But anyway, the managers will present their case in front of the court of the Senate and make their case in the court of public opinion.
	They will make their case for history and posterity, said Pelosi.
	Why bother?
	Why bother?
	Ask our founders why bother.
	Oh yeah, I'm sure the founders are just thrilled with the idea of a cabal of elites controlling the electoral process.
	Ask those who wrote the Constitution.
	Ask Abraham Lincoln.
	I love the way she's essentially saying, ask Republicans what we should do.
	Like, ask anyone who cares about our democracy and why we're bothering.
	You cannot go forward until you have justice.
	And so to this end, the Democrats want Trump to get up and testify under oath at the impeachment, which strikes me as being a massive L in potential for the Democrats.
	If we can go to the next one, please, John.
	They've called on Trump to testify under oath at the impeachment, sending in the letter saying, you know, come and testify.
	You have thus attempted to put critical facts at issue, notwithstanding the clear and overwhelming evidence of your constitutional offense, says Congressman Jamie Raskin.
	And this seems like a he's the lead impeachment manager.
	And this seems like a deeply dangerous game to play to me, because at the end of the day, Trump could get up and say anything.
	For example, Trump could sit there and quote verbatim from the Time article.
	Which he should.
	He's got, what, an hour, maybe two in there, at least, the speaking time?
	Just read it.
	There's your opening statement.
	Yep.
	Just read it.
	That's what he should do.
	Instead, and this I think is frustrating, and at the end of the day, even if he doesn't do that, I mean, I would do that.
	I would say, look, this is what I thought I was up against, and And then just read from the Time Magazine article that we've done.
	But even if he didn't do that, I think he could make a humanizing case, right?
	Where he says, look, I didn't do anything that was illegal.
	You're not accusing me of any crime.
	You're not accusing me of rigging the election or anything like that.
	You're accusing me of being an effective campaigner and for being the candidate the American public wanted to vote for.
	This is what's laid at my feet.
	He hasn't done anything.
	What's he done?
	Like, what's he done that's outside of the realm of normalcy?
	Well, they're trying to argue on legal grounds with the incitement, and that's a dud.
	That's dead.
	Easy, easy to destroy.
	Even the Hill had to come out and admit, look, that's a bad argument.
	Like, didn't James Comey, the FBI director, also have to say, ex-FBI, also have to say that it was dead?
	Like, there was no way they could get him on this?
	Yeah.
	Because, I mean, he said, peacefully march to the Capitol.
	And all of the people who have been saying, oh, Trump is inciting, they have to appeal to innuendo.
	And it's like...
	Yeah, I mean, like Twitter, for example, or Facebook, both of them listing their reasons for why they got rid of him, had to openly say, well, he may have said something that doesn't reach our...
	We interpreted this to say.
	Yeah, like, we had to reinterpret it to get to the conclusion we wanted.
	Yeah.
	It was like, right, so...
	A reasonable person won't come to the conclusion that a man saying you should peacefully go to the Capitol and make your voices heard is saying, hang Nancy Pelosi.
	That's not a reasonable interpretation.
	So basically, I would be totally in favour of Trump giving his testimony, because I think he'll be able to defend his case, make them look ridiculous, and publish the Time article with them, basically.
	But instead, the Trump team has...
	His impeachment lawyers, David Schoen and Bruce Castor, have suggested that the invitation was a public relations stunt and repeated the president's central defense that is unconstitutional to bring an impeachment proceeding against the former president.
	The president will not testify in an unconstitutional proceeding.
	I think this...
	I mean, I'm no expert, but it just seems to me that there's a potential here to...
	Do a kind of political jujitsu move, like Saul Alinsky would have recommended, and use the strength of your opponent against them.
	So we're going to bring you to trial and make you testify.
	Okay, this is what I have to say.
	The core argument that it's unconstitutional to impeach a former president may not have strong grounds, actually, because there have been times where such things have happened.
	I thought I actually had some notes.
	They did have a vote on this in the Senate, and the Senate did not get a supermajority to say that it was constitutional.
	I will get to that in a second, yeah.
	But anyway, so it's not liable, in my opinion, to be successful.
	But if we can go on next...
	Talking about Lindsey Graham.
	Now, Lindsey Graham, we won't watch the clip, but basically he's advising against calling witnesses during the trial because then if the Democrats call a single witness, you know, they'll have to call the FBI in and suddenly it becomes a much longer drawn out thing.
	And so the open wound starts festering, is what he's saying, you know.
	I mean, this could go on, you know, the Democrats could essentially fail.
	And then Trump goes away.
	That's it.
	You know, then business as usual, as far as they're concerned.
	And Lindsey Graham put out the honestly quite teary-eyed appeal saying, look, you are opening a Pandora's box here that cannot be closed.
	Just think about what you're doing.
	Use a bit of restraint.
	Stop doing this.
	But Democrat activists on Twitter were obviously like, no, to hell with you.
	What's the next one?
	Yeah.
	We'll call witnesses for the Senate trial if we need to, and there isn't a damn thing Lindsey Graham can do about it.
	Yeah, that's not what Lindsey Graham was saying.
	Lindsey Graham is appealing to moderation.
	He is on his knees.
	He is begging you, please don't do this.
	You're going to destroy the Republic, and your attitude is to hell with Lindsey Graham.
	To hell with this.
	There's nothing you can do about it.
	It's like, well, that's the kind of attitude that makes people think, well, okay, let me show you what I can do about these things.
	And that's not the road you want to go down.
	That's, again, not a position of goodwill.
	And so anyway, yeah, like you were saying, it's not likely that they're going to get their impeachment.
	As we saw last week, Rand Paul had brought a vote on whether this was a constitutionally acceptable thing to do in front of the Senate, and he had got...
	He had failed to get this thing discharged or whatever.
	So the vote was a majority vote because it was just, is this constitutional?
	And the Democrats got a few Republicans on side, so it got the majority.
	But to actually impeach someone, you need a supermajority of 66 out of 100, which they weren't able to get.
	So it indicates that there is enough Republicans who already don't think this is constitutional.
	In which case, when it comes down to the vote on impeachment, why would they vote to impeach?
	Yes, but we can name the traitors.
	I think it's fair to us to call them traitors.
	Mitt Romney.
	Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Ben Sasse and Pat Toomey.
	There we go.
	They are the people who are at this point willing to work with the cabal in the Democrats.
	But yeah, they need 17 people, they can get 5, it's unlikely they're going to get Trump impeached.
	Again, they'll fail to impeach Trump, and they will continue tearing apart the Republic.
	I love the idea in 4 years he comes back, runs, wins, and there's like 3rd impeachment, 4th impeachment!
	I mean, we're stopping Pelosi, who by that point is going to be a skeleton.
	But yeah, I mean, I like that Trump's legal team's responses to a lot of this stuff.
	We are in receipt of your latest public relations stunt, as you certainly know.
	There is no such thing as negative inference in this unconstitutional proceeding.
	Your letter only confirms what is known to everyone.
	You cannot prove your allegations against the 45th President of the United States, who is now a private citizen.
	The use of our Constitution to bring a purported impeachment proceeding is much too serious to try and play these games.
	There's nothing too serious for them to play games about.
	You have to understand.
	Trump resigned from the Film Actors Guild.
	That's not actually called the Film Actors Guild, is it?
	That's from Team America.
	The Screen Actors Guild, sorry.
	And they basically told Trump that they were kicking him out of it.
	And Trump's response was great.
	He was like, who cares?
	And then resigned immediately.
	Solid response.
	Maxine Waters wants Trump charged with attempted premeditated murder, which I think is sane.
	As sane as you would expect from someone like Maxine Waters.
	Rather ironic, given that she's the one who was calling for Republicans to be harassed in public.
	Wherever they were seen, form a crowd, make sure they're being harassed.
	I mean, she was very explicit.
	I've seen this meme where you have four Democrats saying things, then Facebook's putting a fact check on the wall now, because of course they are.
	She's one of them, and they're all accurate as well.
	You can argue them, I guess, but Maxine Waters is one you cannot argue, because she was very explicit.
	Wherever you see them, in a diner, in a gas station, form a crowd and let them know.
	It's like, well...
	Harass them in public.
	Like, what else do you call that, man?
	Like...
	Walter said the rioters were following the president when they stormed the Capitol.
	What's so interesting about all of this is that they tried to make themselves the victim when indeed they are following the president of the United States of America who had advanced planning about the invasion that took place in the Capitol.
	What the hell are you talking about?
	Like, Trump didn't go in.
	They didn't follow him in.
	He didn't tell them to go in.
	And what advanced planning are you talking about?
	I mean, we know advanced planning about the cabal.
	Maxine, Maxine.
	They just saw a bunch of senators, formed a crowd, and made them know that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Like, shut up.
	I'm not taking it from these people.
	Yeah, and we've got to the point now where CNN are like, yeah, well, everyone's in favour of this.
	Millions of people who voted for Trump actually want him barred from office.
	Okay?
	Sounds likely.
	It's according to...
	CNN poll?
	Oh, yeah, exactly.
	According to an ABC News slash Ipsos poll that showed 56% of Americans are in favour of the Senate convicting Trump, whereas 43% are opposed to such an action.
	Now, I mean, I wouldn't say that's actually as monumental a landslide as they think.
	The fact that Trump still has 43% support...
	Is a lot of people.
	Like, that's, I don't know, something like 140 million people.
	And this is like a worst estimate.
	Like, I don't believe these numbers.
	Yeah, well, A, take polling for what it's worth, because the polling has been worthless the whole time.
	I mean, like, just his approval ratings are better than this, for example.
	Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
	That's correct.
	But again, take it for what it's worth.
	But this is the propaganda that they're putting out.
	So everyone is in favour of having Trump impeached.
	You know, Republicans, you need to do it.
	If you don't want the cabal coming for you next time, I suppose, because, you know...
	It's such a paper tiger.
	Yeah.
	That's the thing.
	They always put themselves up as like, oh, loads of people want this, we're going to go ahead, whatever.
	But if the Republicans in the Senate just say no, they can't do anything.
	That's it.
	It's that simple.
	And that's what they should do.
	Yeah.
	And then they should get rid of the five defectors who decided to become Democrats.
	Because the Democrats, they're not playing soft anymore.
	Literally just kick them out of the party.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Literally, you should.
	You're no longer party members.
	You're not independent senators.
	And watch them join the Democrats.
	Exactly.
	That's all they'll do.
	Yeah, the Republicans at this point have to understand that there is an active will against the sort of MAGA movement, which is most of the Republican base at this point.
	And if they don't pull their heads out of their rears, it's going to keep doing to others what they did to Trump.
	And you're going to have to stop them.
	You can't live in a society like that.
	Because again, fundamentally, the bedrock principle, and you would have learned this if you'd watched my book club on John Locke's Second Treatise of Government, which is why I sign up on Logistics.com, But the underlying principle of the American Republic is that it is government by consent with a government that's formed by the people.
	For the people!
	Wow, this is all sounding like rhetoric.
	This is very easy to roll off the tongue.
	It's almost like it's embedded in the very foundational notions of the United States.
	But anyway, the reason this is important is because if you have this kind of ill will that permeates one half of politics, that's it.
	The Republic's over.
	And I really think that you're getting to the sort of end of Republic state.
	And that's not good.
	I mean, when you're openly saying we're fortifying it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	When it's just like...
	I mean, is Maduro that open about it?
	You know?
	Who was in Zimbabwe?
	Who's the guy who took over after...
	Mugabe.
	No, the guy who took over after Mugabe.
	Oh, the military guy.
	Yeah, he just came in with a convoy of Jeeps.
	It's like, yes, so I've won the election.
	It's like...
	Okay.
	Well, that's what it looks like.
	That's really what it looks like.
	You know, oh, we've had another election.
	I have won it.
	Here's me occupying the Capitol.
	Joe Biden speaking in a Zimbabwean accent.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I have won the National Guard out here.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's in the open.
	And that's the thing.
	Are these people even as forthright as the cabal is?
	I don't think they are.
	Just put it out on Twitter while we were waiting.
	Test posts.
	There was widespread election fortification.
	I want to see if I get banned.
	Oh, that's a good quote.
	Good quote.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But, right, moving closer to home.
	What's happening over here.
	This is great.
	This is fantastic.
	Oh, good, because everything else has been terrible.
	Yeah, okay.
	So, we don't really have a goat in this fight.
	It's just like...
	A goat in this fight.
	I don't know.
	You know the Simpsons meme with the monkeys fighting each other with knives?
	And one of the guys around the side throwing cash in, like, keep going.
	So the monkeys, one side is the leftist intersectionalist types, and the other side is the Islamic types.
	And I just found it amazing.
	Fight, fight, fight!
	We reported on this before.
	So this lady was appointed to the Muslim Council of Britain as the General Secretary.
	And she's very, very inclusive.
	Very, very inclusive.
	Wow.
	What Mrs.
	Zara Mohammed is this?
	Yeah, so this is Sadiq Khan tweeting in support of her appointment with a quote saying, My vision is to continue to build a truly inclusive, diverse and representative body driven by the needs of British Muslims for the common good.
	And you can see how it's couched in the language of intersexuality.
	Intersexual language, yeah.
	It's cringe.
	And we've always thought, like, what's going to happen when...
	Because the Islamic movement in the UK and, you know, Islamist types have always buddy-buddied with the Labour Party and the intersectionalist types.
	Of course, they're meant to be a direct...
	Exactly, that's the thing, right?
	So this has been a long-standing question on the internet.
	Who's going to win?
	The Muslims or the progressives?
	And I put my money on the progressives.
	And everyone's like, no, no, no, the Muslims will bring back patriarchy.
	I'm like, don't you be so sure?
	The progressive will is much stronger, it seems.
	The linguistic tools that the progressives have to conquer territory in the public domain are very, very powerful.
	Sorry, Karen.
	So we have the joke of like, well, we're all for inclusivity and diversity.
	Miss Sarah, I hope to see the Jewish board directors of the Muslim Council of Britain very soon.
	Some Catholic ones as well.
	Some Catholic ones.
	Maybe even a Protestant.
	A couple of atheists for no reason.
	It's diversity.
	Let's see what happens.
	I would like to be appointed, to be honest.
	Oh, man.
	So, not much has happened, but then the first incident of this new war is taking place, and the alliance is just crippling.
	I don't think this is going to last a year by the looks of it.
	So this was BBC Woman's Hour, because of course the BBC has a specific Woman's Hour for reasons, and it's hosted by this lady here, Emily Bonnet, who is an interesting character, and she has Zara on to discuss the fact that she's become the new intersectionalist leader of the Muslims, I guess.
	In Britain.
	Just to point out as well, the Muslim Council of Britain is not representative of British Muslims.
	Like, British Muslims in any poll do not find this group representative.
	It's something like 3% of them support them.
	It's the politicized wing of Islam in the UK, so that's why it gets called this way.
	So they do this interview, and I wanted to play a bit of it.
	We're not going to play the full thing, just so you can get a flavor.
	So this is her asking how many imams in the UK are women.
	How many female imams are there?
	In the UK at the moment, just because I presume we'll get to this more, but representing, of course, women, which you will do as part of this, how many do we have in Britain?
	I mean, I think, again, I wouldn't have a clue on these numbers because my role is making sure that we include our affiliates, particularly women, in the work that we are doing and making sure that our structures, as well as the work we do, are truly representative.
	So I think that you...
	Sorry, you don't know.
	That's fine if you don't know.
	But do we have female imams in this country?
	I mean, again, it's not...
	Are you referring to chaplains?
	Are you referring to women that lead the prayer?
	What are you referring to?
	You tell me.
	I'm genuinely intrigued to know, of course, female priests have been around for some time.
	We've also seen the advent of female rabbis in this country.
	What is the picture for women leading prayer in Britain in Muslim communities?
	Well, I think my role isn't really to adjudicate or to examine that part of spirituality.
	I think where women want to make those choices and where, you know, these are all religious discussions.
	Oh, no, no, of course.
	It was just, I thought, because the Muslim Council of Britain has played such an important role in getting the number of Muslims, for instance, added to the census.
	I mean, that was done at the turn of the century.
	So we actually knew how many Muslims there were.
	So do we have female imams?
	I think what's really important for the Muslim Council of Britain and what we do is actually...
	She has no answer for her.
	And you can see that she looks really much on the back foot there, doesn't she?
	Emma is going on the attack.
	She's leaning in.
	She's like, where are the female imams?
	Where are the female imams?
	And this woman looks like she's being crushed under the weight of this assault.
	Really spooked.
	And I think she is spooked because this is a leftist domain, BBC Women's Hour, especially Emma herself.
	And her coming at this as a sort of intersectionalist, new Muslim type, I imagine was expecting a friendly interview or something non-difficult, and instead she's been thrown out with where are the female imams.
	I'm not mostly asking this.
	Why are you asking me that?
	Yeah, so just to make the point about Emma, because many people won't know her, I wanted to play this clip of her talking to Anne Whittacombe, so Anne Whittacombe at the Brexit party, and this is pathetic, just to get a flavour of this kind of stuff this woman believes.
	It is total white privilege on your part to use the word oppression in such an easy cavalier manner.
	You're playing to the gallery.
	I'm so sick of this job.
	I love that.
	Using the word oppression is playing to the gallery.
	You do nothing but that.
	You're a leftist.
	What are you talking about?
	Your entire stock in trade is victimhood and oppression.
	And, like, Emma has given a rough time to some people in the Labour Party in her interviews because she's Jewish and therefore hates anti-Semitism.
	I guess that's fair.
	But she's also got a weird, weird background, so you can do your own research into her.
	I won't go too far into it.
	But she's a leftist type hosting a partisan show, whether she likes it or not.
	A leftist partisan show.
	Yeah, and this lady did not get an easy time on it.
	And of course, this awoken a lot of responses.
	Awoken a lot of responses, I like that.
	So a few of these responses were from normal people.
	So here's Andy Ngo pointing out, why doesn't just Zara answer the question?
	Like, why doesn't she?
	We all know the answer, as Yasmin Muhammad points out.
	And I just want to say, the base then red-pilled Muslim answer is zero, like God willed it.
	Yeah, that would be the response.
	But she can't do that because she's an intersectional Muslim, so she's finding herself at a crossroads.
	God was wrong about the number of female imams.
	That's the intersectional opinion.
	God was wrong, we're right.
	Yeah, that's their opinion.
	And Yasmin Mohamed pointing out here that zero.
	The answer is zero.
	Love my zeros.
	There are no female imams in the UK. Just answer the question.
	It's really cringe and transparent.
	Totally true here.
	And one of the interesting things is I assume...
	Hopefully there are Muslim women willing to push back against the misogynistic edicts that prohibit women from the role.
	Yes, indeed.
	Yes.
	There's misogynistic edicts from Muhammad, speaking with the received wisdom of the angel Gabriel that comes direct from the lips of God himself.
	Misogynistic edicts.
	They need to be pushed back.
	Muslim women strike me as the kind of people who'll be pushing back on the commandments of Allah.
	Obviously.
	So Yasmin actually gave a couple of links there, which are interesting.
	So the answer for the UK apparently is zero, as in we don't have any female imams.
	But there are some on the continent, which is rather interesting.
	Which continent?
	Not on the Middle Eastern section of the world.
	Not Asia or Africa.
	But on the European side of this.
	So this is an article she linked in here, which was quite interesting.
	So there's an American and a Danish convert to Islam.
	They grew up in America and Denmark, not being Muslims, converted to Islam, and they're now women imams.
	They didn't grow up in the Middle East.
	Oh, no, they didn't.
	And they're not women imams in the Middle East.
	And they mention here that there's an increasing movement, largely within progressive groups, of women imams promoting a more inclusive vision of Islam within a mixed-gender religious space.
	Based.
	It's like progressive groups are doing this.
	Ah, okay.
	So it's sort of like the...
	It definitely is coming from the outside in.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's not growing in from the inside.
	Very clearly.
	Yes.
	And apparently there was also an inclusive mosque initiative in the UK, which is very weird.
	Oh yeah, I've heard about this.
	So, this is a lady in Germany who's being honoured for similar kind of activities.
	So, she's getting the, I don't know how to say this, sorry, Urina Ora?
	I don't know how to say it, but the president here gives a quote about what it is, and it's an award for important social justice warriors...
	It's literally called For Important Social Justice Warriors.
	Okay, they're just using this MSGW now.
	Great, thanks.
	We don't have to argue about it anymore.
	That's nice.
	But she gives a quote here.
	So she set up a place where she's, I assume, the female imam and it's more inclusive of homosexuals, let's say, for example.
	And she gives a quote of what it's like to do this job.
	I can't just leave my house and go shopping.
	If it wasn't for a police protection, I wouldn't be able to do my job at all.
	Without police protection, you can't even voice your opinion.
	Not even in Germany.
	I guess it's the far right that's threatening her on a daily basis, that makes her require a police guard.
	We have to assume, I guess.
	They're coming after her for promoting LGBTQ+. Presumably.
	And then the inclusive mosque initiative was something she also linked, which is sort of a more UK-based initiative.
	So they're trying to promote this intersectional Islam.
	Look at that description.
	An intersectional feminist mosque with the aim of establishing a place of worship for the promotion and practice of an inclusive Islam.
	I told you they're going to take Islam, repackage it in progressivism, and annihilate it.
	Sell it back to you.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm sort of reminded of Christopher Hitchens actually talking about how...
	You know, the barbarians will only come when the gates are held open for them.
	And I'm thinking, he was putting it in a context of atheism being subverted by theocrats.
	Well, the West being subverted by theocrats, you know.
	I kind of feel bad for the Muslims, mate.
	You didn't know what you were getting into.
	I mean, the corruption that we're facing, the moral corruption we're facing, is unlike anything the Islamic world has prepared for.
	I'm warning them now.
	And you ain't going to be able to stop it.
	And this isn't because we're in favor of, like, you know, misogynistic practices within Islam or homophobic practices within Islam.
	You know, liberals, don't fans of this.
	No, no, I'm joking.
	But as I said, it was sort of like the guys on the side throwing money in as the monkeys fight each other.
	We're just like, this is just weird.
	Well, no, what it is, is if you want Islam to exist, right, you have to accept that it has certain attitudes towards certain things.
	So it has a particular opinion on women, on men, on religious worship, on the right ordering of the world.
	And the progressives disagree with that in every single way possible.
	They consider that to be patriarchal, to be misogynistic, oppressive, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	They'll doubtless end up calling it things like Arab supremacy and things like this when they are far enough down the road.
	And this is the beginning of them, the corruption seeping in to Islam.
	And the Muslims just should be aware.
	You're infected.
	I mean, your doctrines are an exact opposite of what's being promoted here.
	So, for example, in the Quran, it literally says of the people of what's meant to be Sodom and Gomorrah in English.
	I think they use Lot instead.
	Kill them.
	Kill the ones who are doing it and kill the ones that are being promoted.
	That's the wording.
	Which we disavow the Quran.
	This isn't my opinion.
	I'm not a fucking Quranic scholar or anything.
	But that's what's being claimed by the text that cannot be changed.
	The literal word of God.
	The Inclusive Mosque Initiative has a page about LGBT plus family members and how to support them, which is the next link.
	Well, hang on a second.
	Are we allowed to show that on screen?
	Because that might be quite violent.
	I don't know what their opinions are.
	But there's the thing, it's just like, well, you know, I'm not involved.
	I don't care either way with these people, but these things cannot go together.
	They do not fit, in my opinion.
	You seem to be going up against a brick wall.
	Definitionally, they don't fit, but...
	That doesn't stop the progressives.
	Well, they redefine everything.
	The whole point is the redefinition of words has allowed the progressives to get where they are.
	And so if they can redefine, you know, white people...
	The people of London are actually the people of London.
	Well, the people of lots will end up being the true Muslims, the real Muslims.
	Because remember, there is no such thing as gender.
	Gender is very malleable.
	There's no such thing as sexuality.
	It all exists on a spectrum.
	And so who is a person of lots really anyway?
	I mean, it could be you, it could be me.
	If you've ever looked at a man or something and not...
	Gone and said your prayers afterwards?
	Maybe you're gay.
	Is there anyone who's really straight?
	And so suddenly Islam finds itself dissipating under the attack on the definitions that it holds itself up by.
	Yeah, and this is what I would have expected the response to be from the leftists, which is, well, the inclusive mosque initiative exists, and yes, we ought to push for female imams.
	Yes, we should.
	I'm expecting this is what Emma was expecting as well, that everyone was going to back her up on this, like, right, we're going to continue pushing progressivism into Islam in the same way that Zahra getting into opposition was.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	The leftists have completely abandoned her and backed off and said, right, no, Islam is not to be touched in this way, at least in the first battle.
	So the highest voted response in response to this clip was this here.
	This lady's saying she's so angry.
	Sorry, Faiza Shaheen.
	Right, okay.
	So she's a Londoner.
	Probably Muslim.
	I'm so angry at this.
	Pure ignorance from the presenter.
	Why have you clipped it?
	Trying to cater for the Islamophobic Twitter crowd.
	Clickbait for a culture war you support.
	You should be ashamed.
	Much respect to Zara for keeping her cool and pushing back.
	The progressives.
	Very much the Islamophobic Twitter crowd.
	Yes.
	If you scroll down a little bit, her follow-up response.
	Yes, the Islamophobic culture war that the BBC supports.
	Yeah, okay.
	Was saying that anyone should complain to the BBC because she dared to ask how many female imams there are, with the obvious answer being zero.
	Yeah, but Faiza, how many are there?
	I'm just curious.
	I just want the number.
	I mean, endlessly, a bunch of these responses that I'm not going to bother, I'm just going to say instead, was just like, oh, how many female priests are there?
	How many female bishops?
	Yeah, there are.
	Those living in the Islamic world who don't know, yeah, intersectionality took over Christianity a long time ago.
	I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm actually sympathetic to your position on this, but like...
	Yeah, you've lost that battle already.
	Yeah, like even the Pope, I think in 2021, like a month ago or something, the Pope did the first female bishop.
	So it's not even just priests.
	Oh yeah, and the Pope...
	He's a progressive.
	Yeah, he is.
	He came out against the condemnation of homosexuality as well, didn't he?
	I think he abandoned purgatory as well.
	Yeah.
	All these Christian teachings in the garbage.
	Yeah, I mean...
	I'm not even a Christian.
	I'm an atheist.
	But it's just weird.
	Not even Christian.
	These are Catholic teachings.
	Specifically Catholic.
	And there's a lot of Catholic teaching that is nonsense.
	Obvious dogma that's built up over the centuries.
	But again, like with the Muslims.
	I'm an atheist.
	And if I was not an atheist, I'd be a Protestant.
	But as an atheist, looking at the Catholics and looking at the Muslims, I'm like, guys, this is going to eat you up.
	You understand?
	This is coming for you.
	It's already attacking the foundations.
	And it will eat you up.
	So the continued attack after this was that basically it's white feminism.
	I mean, yes.
	So this response here, white feminism is harmful.
	Okay, and then the next one was basically the same thing.
	From Shireen Ahmed.
	This was the second upvoted most comment.
	From Samina Yasmin.
	This is absolutely vile.
	When I think Emma Barnett, I can't possibly get any worse.
	She does.
	For anyone who doesn't seem to understand, this isn't even white feminism.
	It's white supremacy.
	I mean, isn't this woman Jewish?
	Emma, yeah, she is.
	But I presume they don't know.
	I guess they don't know, but they're accusing a Jewish woman of being a white supremacist.
	She's got white privilege, by their standards.
	You Jewish woman, you're a Nazi, is not a good look, in my opinion.
	It's not a very effective attack, either.
	But the point is, no one thinks that she's a Nazi.
	No one thinks she's upholding this.
	But it wasn't just, you know, random people.
	And there are loads of checkmarks I didn't have time for, but I just did the most important ones.
	So this is a Good Morning Brenham host.
	So this is a TV show in the UK that gets loads and loads of views.
	Saying that this is very strange.
	Imams don't have the same roles as priests.
	Females lead prayers all the time.
	Why is it being leveled at Zara if it's about sexism?
	Level it at men, not a woman making change?
	I mean, she's the representative of the Muslim Council of Britain, mate.
	Do we have to ask this of the Catholic Church?
	Yes, and it's been done.
	Why is the BBC doing clickbait?
	Oh my god, right.
	This is such a shotgun.
	Scattershot of like...
	He's got nothing.
	Like, he knows he's got nothing, so he's just like shooting around trying to get something.
	But Adol Ray, whoever he is, right?
	I mean, you've finally arrived at the position that we had arrived at like five years ago, right?
	Saying that imams don't have the same role as priests, well then what difference?
	Why not just say the zero then?
	Proudly zero, if that's no problem.
	Do we ask this of the Catholic Church?
	Yes, much to their chagrin.
	And why is the BBC doing clickbait?
	Yeah, that's a really good question since we're...
	Since we're forced...
	Yeah, exactly.
	Can we speak to the man in charge?
	You know, like...
	Like Zaddle.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But, like, why is the BBC doing clickbait?
	Yeah, good point.
	Since they're not funded by adverts, they're funded by taxpayers, and they shouldn't have to do clickbait.
	Well done.
	Because they're doing propaganda.
	You've arrived on the based and red-pilled side of things, Mr.
	Adil, in your defense of Islam against feminism.
	This was the guy that Constantine was arguing against, who was like, why don't you think you're English?
	And he was like, because I was born in Russia.
	I grew up in Russia.
	Why would I think I'm English?
	But you're a Londoner, aren't you?
	I'm from Russia.
	But you live in London.
	He's like, yeah, so?
	Constantine's just like a normal person in the room, sitting around my...
	He really was, though.
	He was the one normal person in the room where they're all like a bunch of radical, boggle-eyed leftists.
	I'm currently in London, therefore I'm an Englishman.
	It's not how that works, fella.
	Sorry to tell you.
	And the thing is, though, there's also a darker implication in that as well.
	The implication is that people who weren't born in England shouldn't come here as well.
	And if you're not identifying as that thing and you're living here, then there's something wrong.
	It's like foreigners can live in England.
	Yeah, I know, I know.
	But he needs to think about where he's going with this.
	Yeah, so he wasn't the only person in the media, so another one here was the Jacobin magazine writers.
	This is a socialist magazine.
	Communist.
	See, we'd expect them to be in support of Emma here, but no, no, no, no, no.
	This is gotcha journalism and Islamophobia, so this has to be denounced.
	I can barely find any female rabbis and no female Catholic priests.
	That's a lie.
	So they're throwing Emma under the bus.
	And it's not just one magazine.
	It's also a BuzzFeed editor retweeted this, poking in here, also denouncing Emma as not being a proper journalist.
	Right.
	This is very interesting because it implies that on the totem pole of oppression, women are below Muslims.
	Yes.
	Because they are in the totem pole of oppression.
	Oof.
	Sorry, women, but you lost.
	And it's not just media types, the political types have to get involved.
	So the Labour Party made a statement through Yasmin, sorry, through Naz Shah.
	Oh god, yeah, okay.
	Jesus Christ.
	Yeah.
	Like, I don't know why she doesn't just delete Twitter at this point.
	So...
	There's a thing to be said here.
	So Naz Shah, for people who don't know, she is mainly known for two things she got in trouble for.
	The first one, which was a post on Facebook with, like, the Jews of the UK need to move to America, and then the words, problem solved.
	I didn't even know about that.
	It's just like, Jesus Christ.
	She got suspended for a little while for that, but then brought back in, of course.
	And now she's in charge of, like, community cohesion.
	Right.
	Which is the most amazing.
	And, of course, the one saying that girls who are being raped by Muslim grooming gangs should keep their mouths shut for the sake of diversity, retweeting that message, and then getting appointed as the women's minister in response.
	Love the Labour Party.
	Labour, there's something wrong with that.
	So I'm looking at this, and I'm seeing all the emojis, and I'm like, there's no way she wrote this.
	Like, all the tags.
	She's got a social media manager now, who now writes this for her, I think.
	But even then, she's siding with the Muslim Council of Britain and sort of denouncing the host slain.
	Let me say, I can't even pass what I'm reading here.
	A Muslim woman, Zahra, achieves something unprecedented Muslim Council.
	Instead of celebrating her being a role model, we get this, downward pointing...
	From our national broadcaster, Shrug, and every Muslim girl listening or watching says, why bother?
	Thank you, BBC Women's Hour.
	So we've got two women, both in positions of power and influence.
	One on the BBC, one heading the Muslim Council of Britain.
	And Naz Shah is like, oh, girls are going to be discouraged from getting into public life because of this.
	Because of female representation.
	I mean, I didn't say it.
	If I'd said it, I'd be called a misogynist.
	Naz Shah says it, and everything's hunky-dory.
	Okay.
	But I also just hate, like, I bet this isn't her.
	Like, I don't want to labor on this point too much.
	But who writes like this?
	Who writes a tweet like that?
	Well, I mean...
	With emojis.
	It's weird.
	Chelsea Manning?
	I don't follow her.
	There's good reason for that.
	Anyway, so the next one is also the former leader of the Welsh independence saying that we need to talk about intersectional feminism because apparently the problem here is, of course, that Muslims are higher than women on the intersectional feminism agenda and therefore throw Emma under the bus, throw women under the bus, Islam is supreme.
	So we're throwing the Jewish woman under the bus for Naz Shah's feelings?
	For the Muslim Council of Britain's feelings?
	I mean, I don't know.
	But Leanne Wood, I can't help but notice that you're a white Welsh woman, so maybe you need to be quiet.
	Or maybe just give up your position.
	I mean, just honestly, I don't think this is worth fighting, mate.
	Just stay out of it.
	You're going to get in trouble.
	But this is again, they're paying for the rope that will hang them.
	And the last one here is from Ash Sarkar, because of course she's got to get involved.
	She's got to give her opinion on it.
	Ash Sarkar, famous for being a communist that gets invited on Good Morning Britain and the BBC. Hang on, we're not finished condemning Ash Sarkar yet.
	Who, when speaking about the population demographic changes of Britain, said famously, quote, We're winning, lads.
	Carry on, Ash.
	What did you have to say?
	So she didn't think this was a legitimate question to ask?
	I don't think this was an illegitimate question to ask, but its presentation as a gotcha displays really profound ignorance of how Muslim spiritual leadership works, i.e.
	it's complicated and not analogous to either the Anglican or Catholic Church.
	Well, I mean, Ash, question.
	Are you a Muslim?
	Because I've seen you drinking on streams, beer, and you had fornicates like a champion written in your Twitter bio.
	Which I believe you have actually removed at this point.
	So, I mean, if we're going to take lessons on being a Muslim from anyone, it ain't you.
	Secondly, your argument is just, it's okay when we do it.
	But that's the thing.
	All of these responses...
	If not explicitly, or at least tepidly, on the side of the Muslim Council of Britain, completely throwing the argument of intersectionalism that we need more female imams because women are half the population, therefore they must be half of the baby murderers.
	You know, this kind of argument.
	That's what they're arguing.
	They must be half of the CEOs.
	Well, okay, they must be half of the baby murderers then.
	Is that what you want?
	Is that what's important?
	No.
	But they've all gone for the side of, no, no, no, no, we're not going to push intersectionality.
	They've all abandoned it.
	I just...
	Islam one, intersection is zero, I guess.
	Damn.
	Damn.
	First battle of the culture war between those two.
	But this is not how intersectionality wins.
	It doesn't win by straight up smashing its opponents.
	It wins by getting its tendrils in and working its way through the institutions.
	And you know it.
	So you're putting a long-term bet.
	It's always a long-term bet on intersectionality.
	Which we bet.
	It's like $100 in the office.
	Yeah, okay.
	50 quid.
	50 quid that the intersectionals defeat the Muslims.
	When do we have a deadline?
	This time next year?
	No, no, no.
	It's too soon.
	It's going to be like in five years' time.
	You're going to notice that the Muslim Council of Britain will be staffed by women, transgender people, homosexuals, and various others.
	But there won't be any straight Arabic or Pakistani men, right?
	It'll all be gone.
	Yeah, it'll all be gone.
	But right, oh, and good one Vicky, right.
	Yeah, so let's place your bets in the comments there, chaps.
	I want to know, do you think that Islam or progressivism is going to win in this conflict?
	And we have some comments from you folks.
	So, by the way, the way the website works, just in case anyone doesn't know, Instead of sending us Superchats on YouTube, because a percentage of that goes to YouTube, you can sign up to Logistics.com for £5 a month and comment freely on the website, which means you can comment on the webpage to which we're streaming.
	So we stream the podcast to the website as well, and we'll take comments from there as sort of prepaid Superchats.
	They do get quite long though, so I'm going to try and trim them down a little bit.
	George Happ.
	Hi guys, really appreciate the work you're doing.
	What do you think about the possibility of Trump being an Emmanuel Goldstein figure installed by the establishment to root out any freedom-minded people like Winston?
	That's a good question.
	That's a very good question.
	I think that whether Trump was...
	I mean, I don't think for a second that Trump was, like...
	I think he will be used as an Emmanuel Goldstein figure.
	Trump and Trumpism will be the specter that haunts progressivism in America for the next, probably in a couple of election cycles at least.
	No, I don't think so.
	I think it will last right up until the next Republican candidate is chosen.
	Then all of a sudden, Trump wasn't that bad.
	Trump's actually on our side in the same way with George Bush.
	It depends what the candidate's like.
	If he leans towards the Mitt Romney persuasion, then Trump will have been the forever evil man.
	No, no, no.
	You don't remember Mitt Romney's run.
	Yeah, and they called him all sorts of names, obviously.
	Yeah, but he was worse.
	He was going to put you back in chains.
	Yeah, he was.
	He was.
	And didn't he have binders full of women as well?
	What a misogynist.
	But I think Trump has...
	The thing that Trump represents is an equal oppositional will to the Democrats, right?
	They've got somewhere they're trying to go and Trump is crossing across that and saying, no, you're going to stop here because I'm trying to go somewhere else.
	And the question is, Mitt Romney is not against the direction in which the Democrats are traveling.
	And the question is, will the next Republican be in opposition to the way they're trying to go?
	And if he is, then Trump will be looked back on.
	I mean, to be honest with you, I think they'll just view it as a continuation of Trump.
	I don't think there'll be any particular difference.
	They'll just call it Trumpism in the same way they call everything Gamergate, right?
	They won't get over it because they lost and they know.
	Exactly, yeah.
	Base Ginger says, everyone should send a link to the podcast breakdown of the Time article to their Conservative MPs and ask them to give their thoughts on media bias.
	If we red pill MPs, it's game over.
	Yeah, and in America you should do this to all of your Conservative representatives.
	Every single one.
	Send them the Time article.
	Send us us talking about the Time article.
	Do whatever.
	Just make them comment on it.
	Make them aware of it.
	Because you can't really blame them if they don't know.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Ignorance is ignorance, you know.
	Fenerick Holly Bar says, Holly Bar says, the fact that they openly admit to the shadow campaign means they are not only not afraid, they want recognition for their efforts.
	This is them printing out the bill for their work.
	I mean, they even said it.
	You know, the people involved want recognition for their great work saving democracy from the voters.
	Hey folks, I'd like to say the premium episode about Hitchens was amazing.
	Well, thank you very much.
	All the more reason to sign up and watch it if you're not already signed up.
	Such a shame he died.
	His views on current themes would have been legendary.
	Yes, they would.
	And have I tried Philly cheesesteak?
	Yes, I have.
	And it's amazing.
	And as long as I'm eating it out of the roll that it comes in, keto-friendly.
	Although they're not heart-friendly.
	Because, I mean, Americans...
	There's no such thing as liquid cheese.
	It just doesn't exist, right?
	So I don't know what you have that you spray on stuff.
	Americans have something called liquid cheese, right?
	And they spray cheese.
	They spray canned cheese.
	Yeah, I know.
	Yeah, I know, right?
	Yeah, I know.
	What?
	I can't even imagine it.
	They call it cheese, right?
	But it's not.
	Because cheese is a solid.
	They have cream that they call cheese.
	Yes.
	And they spray it on everything.
	But in their defense, it is actually quite tasty.
	Is it sweet?
	Not when I ate it, but maybe after being on keto for every year, maybe I would view it as being sweet now.
	Because at the time, if...
	It's definitely unnatural.
	Yeah, no S. It's definitely unnatural at the very least.
	Tim Charters.
	I forwarded the Time article to my local MP with some accompanying doom-filled text.
	Here's the response.
	This looks fascinating, Tim, and I'll read with interest and certainly pass on to Pretty.
	So this has gone under the eyes of the Home Secretary.
	Well, let's hope so.
	Stephen Smith says, if someone doesn't go to prison as a result of the Times article in the American Republic is dead...
	You got it?
	It is dead.
	I guess it's nice having my pre-election predictions validated, I suppose, says Elliot Scopes.
	Well, unfortunately, I would rather the evidence come out to show that everyone who had any worries in that regard was a raving conspiracy lunatic and that everything was fine.
	Yeah, like Russiagate.
	Yeah, like Russiagate, incidentally.
	That would have been nice.
	No, no, imagine if Fox News had published, like, here's our collusion with Putin to save the election or something like this.
	Yeah, imagine.
	Oh, man.
	And then imagine having to defend that.
	You'd be like, okay, I support Trump.
	Well, you'd do what the leftists are doing and just not defend it, wouldn't you?
	Well, yeah.
	You'd just say the framing is bad.
	Yeah, but not only that, there were leftists who were tweeting in response saying, I spent ages telling the Trump supporters, I don't support Trump, I oppose Trump, I voted for Joe Biden, and I spent ages telling the Trump supporters that they sounded like lunatics for suggesting that the election would be rigged, and here you are coming out and telling them that it's rigged.
	That's really undermining my case, you know?
	But again, not false.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, no.
	Some of them were genuinely, like, you know, incensed about it.
	But anyway, no fecking names left says, what's the difference between Kyle Benjamin and a recovering sex addict?
	One's a based boomer and the other is a chased kuma.
	Well, thank you.
	I'm Gen X, unfortunately.
	Hey, my dudes, I tried to sub to the Lotuses website, but I can't because I don't use credit cards.
	You can use a debit card.
	Any plans for Ideal or PayPal?
	I want to fulfill my WAG promise.
	I'll have to get back to you on that, but I believe that we will have alternative options in the future.
	Alexander Cross says, Yes, at the ballot box.
	Obviously.
	Wolfgang Deo says, We need to exercise democracy from our vocabulary.
	It literally means mob rule, people power.
	A republic has elections, yet it is not a democracy.
	I don't want to get into the semantical conversation about what is and isn't a democracy at the moment, but it's something we can talk about another time, I think.
	Wurtzyop says, Seriously though, the world is run by religious people.
	Important to understand motives, even if you don't believe.
	Made a video for you, have compensated for your time.
	Stop after five minutes if not interested with the bits you link.
	John, could you whack that in the Discord so I can watch that afterwards?
	Because I'm interested in what you're saying.
	And that was for 50 Aussie bucks, so thank you.
	Jack Burton says, what's your take on Cyril Robinson's idea that it was increased Hellenism in the Roman people and aristocracy, which was the underlying cause of the end of the Republic?
	It's always those Grecoids.
	I don't think you can pin it down on any one factor.
	I think there are lots of different factors that cause not only the end of the Republic, but the collapse of the Empire.
	Again, a bit further than the scope that we can go into right now, but worth looking into.
	Yeah, I mean, Biden really is looking...
	If it wasn't like he didn't look like King John before, Biden definitely looks like it now.
	Like the phony king of America.
	The Universal Acid said Trump winning isn't democratic if you view him as being inherently fascist.
	This is the belief held by BLM that corporists exploited.
	The article is probably BLM snapping back at being used.
	No, no, no.
	The...
	The article details exactly how the left were puppeteered by the unions in conjunction with big business in order to act in ways that were to the interests of the Democrats against the interests of the Republicans.
	So the Black Lives Matter antifa types were just used, openly used.
	Thomas Smith says, have you heard of Blackpilled?
	I have heard of Blackpilled.
	Eric Joss says, any plans on doing an article about Trump's four years in office and things he did and accomplished the good, the mediocre and the bad?
	I mean, that's just...
	The only one worth covering there is the good, because the mediocre and bad you can find anywhere else.
	But I haven't had any plans immediately.
	Gideon Roos says, they literally ran a national conspiracy against a legitimately elected sitting president, but he's the bad guy.
	Well, that's only what Time Magazine is alleging.
	Moose on the Loose says, election was stolen, November, conspiracy theory.
	December, conspiracy theory.
	January, conspiracy theory.
	February, leftist.
	So anyway, I started rigging.
	Yeah, but that's the thing, isn't it?
	Like, everyone got in trouble for saying, for even hinting at the very things that the Time Magazine article is alleging.
	So it's like, okay, what now?
	Jack King, well-funded from who?
	Who funded them?
	Well, we know!
	They admitted it!
	Like, this is why you should read the article, right?
	So, they got 300...
	Was it 200 million from election campaign finance funding?
	But that wasn't sufficient.
	And so they got another 300 million dollars from Mark Zuckerberg.
	Imagine 200 million not being paid for campaigning.
	But then imagine getting just 300 million dollars from Zuck.
	Just here you go.
	Just hand it around.
	Looks like you'll need it.
	I guess we will.
	Because Trump's bloody popular.
	The surprising thing isn't that he's rich.
	The surprising thing is he goes to Congress and then says, we come at our work with no partisan perspective.
	Jack Dorsey as well.
	They don't allege that he funded them, but he definitely controlled the flow of information.
	He came to a meeting with them.
	He definitely controlled the flow of information.
	Again, these people are directly implicated in it.
	Zoran X, please play the video of Biden saying they have a fraud system in this segment.
	We did.
	I mean, everyone's like, oh, well, he meant, say, a fraud prevention system or something like that.
	It's like, did he?
	Did he?
	I mean, why are we inferring that?
	Why are we assuming that Biden made a mistake there?
	Gemma says, the left's distinction of democracy is everyone votes and the correct thing according to us happens.
	Anything else is failure.
	Yeah, that's exactly it.
	Adam Nukes, I think we have two different definitions of democracy here.
	We are using it in the traditional way as a process.
	They are using it as a word for the things we like.
	We must protect democracy from democracy.
	That's exactly where we're at.
	People will vote for Trump.
	That's bad for democracy.
	I mean, you remember the EU referendum, the outcome that was expected, the proper outcome, and the narrative afterwards from Remainers was always the wrong outcome happened.
	They had it in their heads.
	They knew what they wanted.
	Seedfan says, I don't remember what that was in reference to, but thank you.
	John Griffiths, with no message, but thank you anyway.
	Wolfgang Deo, trumpets haven't magically disappeared yet.
	Yeah, well, any amount of time, isn't it?
	Jimmy B, Biden does not control the military.
	He is not allowed inside the Pentagon building.
	The military is currently carrying out operations without him.
	Will likely not listen to anything he says.
	The National Guard is for show.
	Well, I'm not sure I believe that.
	I mean, he is the commander-in-chief.
	So, I don't know.
	And I guess we will see if Trump ever happens to march on the Capitol and ask the National Guard, will you fire upon your president?
	We'll find out, won't we?
	Duffy B. The American Republic died, not through invasion or internal violence, but a smothered whimper and a tweet.
	Eazy-E. I think there is a candidate for Caesar to Biden's cellar that we haven't considered yet.
	Have we seen what Corn Pop is up to these days?
	Well, I hear he's a bad dude, but that's from Biden's perspective, so maybe he's pretty cool.
	C-Knight says, take comfort in the fact that evil always contains the seeds of its own destruction.
	Yes, that's a good point.
	Michelle Obama.
	Oh, hello, Miss First Lady.
	Second impeachment, just around the corner.
	Are you sure about that?
	No, obviously not.
	In Australian dollars, presumably not the real one.
	No, I mean the fact that she's a man.
	Oh, right.
	Don't be a transphobe.
	What?
	No, that's me being trans-inclusive.
	You're being the bigot here by calling her a woman.
	Checkmate.
	No, no, no.
	Trans women are women, therefore I can call her a woman.
	No, no, no.
	She's a trans man.
	I don't think that's what the allegation is.
	I think it's that she was male and transitioned.
	Ah, yeah, it's the way around.
	Yeah, checkmate.
	Sorry.
	I'll imprison myself.
	Second impeachment just around the corner.
	Big Braid Times reporter.
	Yeah, but let me tell you about how we actually conspired to prevent Trump from winning.
	Again, I can't see how Trump could lose if he just got up and just read this Time article.
	Like, then they would be on the back foot.
	They would have to be like, well, hang on a second.
	Like, what's Nancy Pelosi going to say?
	Yeah, exactly.
	What would be the response?
	It would be golden.
	What if it just starts naming Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey from the article?
	And it mentions the fact I'm also deleted off these accounts for alleging what is in this article.
	Yeah!
	I mean, how many millions of Americans are going to see that?
	I mean, you can't do that on your social media accounts because they're gone, mate.
	Exactly, but they gave you a platform upon which, for a few moments, the entire world is going to be focused.
	You may as well use it to BTFO them.
	EC90, thank you for the sticker.
	Darklight Zero, it would be hilarious if the Democrats tried to charge Trump with murdering every single person who died from COVID. I mean, that's basically how they've been framing it.
	Trump has killed people with COVID. It's like, no, he hasn't.
	He hasn't killed anyone with COVID. Shut up.
	Galacta Watkins says Dems and Labour are always racing for most insane.
	Yes, they are.
	Eric Just says I've often heard the BLM riots weren't as bad as the Capitol Hill riots because BLM didn't say they wanted to kill the Vice President.
	Well, just look at the damage that's done.
	The damage was done to private property.
	They didn't want to kill David Dorn either by their chance, but they did.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They just did it anyway.
	Gideon Roos says, if they want to impeach Trump constitutionally, they have to declare him the winner of the election and thus still the sitting president.
	Doesn't inaugurate home and kick out Biden.
	I think they know they're not going to get it.
	I think they know.
	Vanta Blackberry Jim says, Superb Owl got more searches than the overhyped American football game.
	Oh yeah, there was some American football game that everyone cared about.
	And Biden gave his weird 1984 sort of Orwell teleprompter speech, didn't he?
	I mean, sad news for anyone in the United States.
	No one else cares about this.
	Yeah, sorry to tell you.
	You should either, I don't think.
	Football is a game that's played by kicking a ball with the feet.
	Yep.
	End of story.
	Claudia.
	Hi, Sargon and Lotus Eaters.
	Tried to reach out last week, but you may receive a ton of emails.
	FYI, I think you're shadow-bound on Apple Podcasts.
	are we shadow banned on apple podcasts it wouldn't surprise me claudia uh we we ended up getting to like number six in the uk charts and then it just like plummeted to number 100 it's like okay maybe they did shadow ban us i mean like who knows uh zaron x an unpopular opinion that women have rights without responsibility to the state like men even though everyone thought this was fine and feminists still clamor about oppression is evidence they shouldn't hold leadership positions change my mind
	well i think we need need to start talking about people's responsibilities not just women's responsibilities people's responsibilities and And then that will include everyone.
	TPVTragula says, To a leftist, democracy means vote for what the technocrats say.
	Science means believe what the technocrats say.
	Unity means do what the technocrats say.
	Yes.
	Darun Albain, Trump testifying is a trap.
	One wrong word, then they can charge him for lying to them like Bill Clinton.
	That's the swings and roundabouts of it.
	It's a double-edged sword.
	Yo Mama says that the Time article reads like a monologue from a James Bond villain that unveils his full evil plan and then turns on the Death Trap.
	Yeah, it does.
	Do you mind Gravica, please?
	Sorry, what?
	Do you mind reading a couple?
	I was reading the chat and then I started dating.
	Where are we?
	Sorry, my voice is good.
	Wolfgang Deo.
	Progressives will win over the Muslims.
	However, the traditional Muslims will come from Arab land to force the Muslims back in line.
	Muslims will win.
	That's an interesting point because all the, let's say, extremist preachers we get are always from the Muslim lands as well.
	So maybe they'll come back and teach them about real Islam.
	DRT is king.
	This thing hitting the Muslim world is the Faustian bargain that every Christian has seen most Protestant churches go down.
	Never agree with the left.
	They will poison your group.
	As an apostate, this is hilarious, especially since ex-Muslims tend to be crazy leftists.
	As a mediocre film once said, let them fight.
	Yeah, we're just throwing the money in the ring.
	Yeah, and I've noticed this on, like, there are big Facebook groups, like Atheist Republic and Ex-Muslims.
	Yeah, they do tend to go down the left-wing rabbit hole, and it's like...
	Weird.
	I don't know why they do it.
	No, I don't know why either.
	Love you, Carl, but you're wrong.
	Catholic dogma makes the most sense, and Protestant theology was made up 1,500 years after Christ.
	There is also no female Catholic bishop or clergy of any kind.
	That's wrong.
	You're going to have to look it up, mate.
	It's that lovely pope of yours.
	Ordination is still for men only.
	Apparently not.
	Oh yeah, sorry man.
	And I mean, A, Catholic dogma doesn't make no sense.
	But I think you're living in a romanticised view of the Catholic Church.
	Romanticised to like, I don't know, 100 years ago or something.
	Just read the next super chat.
	All cheese is liquid if it's hot enough.
	That's disgusting.
	Melted cheese is great, but that's not the point.
	No, but it's trying to defend this stuff in the can.
	Yeah.
	It is the national shame of America.
	No, no.
	So what is it like going down your mouth?
	If you just filled your mouth with it, is it just whipped cream?
	Yeah, it's like when you have strawberries and cream, it's like the cream in that, instead it's cheese.
	That's horrible.
	That sounds absolutely horrible, Matt.
	I know.
	If they see a Gaius Gracchus or God help them, a Caesar, they'll love Trump as a long-lost friend that was gone too soon.
	Also, favourite part of British history.
	Question for you.
	Mine is either the time they had Paris or 1776.
	I mean, I think 1812 was probably the finest year in British history, generally.
	Look it up.
	I'm trying to think in my head what would be best to actually live through.
	I'd probably go with Thatcher's years.
	I always hear good things about Thatcher's years from everyone who's old enough to remember it.
	I think Britain has better years than Thatcher.
	I don't know, just hyper-capitalism sounds good compared to what we have.
	The years following the defeat of Napoleon were probably pretty good.
	Alright, Cheese Wizard's American answer to gourmet cookie.
	That's disgusting, you people deserve...
	You people deserve what?
	Don't do a Hassan Piker.
	Right, not that.
	You deserve high blood pressure.
	Yes, there we go.
	The subverse, victory by any means necessary justification is inches away from doing away with voting altogether because voting is too risky.
	Well, that's essentially where the message is going.
	That's, you know, voting allows Trump to win.
	We don't want Trump to win, therefore.
	If you ever wondered what happened to Czech Republic after communism fell, check out channel Radical Liberation, where I spoke about it last week.
	It's otherwise great channel, focusing on history and economics.
	Very enjoyable.
	Yeah, he's really good.
	He's really good.
	And the last super chat here, time ain't bragging if you've done it.
	Hmm.
	Huh.
	I don't know what to do with the Americans at this point.
	If they're just saying we're fortifying the election by, quite frankly, if nothing else, dubious means.
	With the law changes, illegal means.
	But, you know, control of information, you know, which explains all the mass deplatformings and things like this.
	And it's like, look, if this is just acceptable for politics going forward...
	Like if Alex Jones is right, now what?
	Yeah.
	Well, how's he wrong?
	What's he wrong about?
	Like, Trump was alleging, are they going to rig the election?
	And they come out and go, no, we fortified it.
	Well, that's put my mind at ease.
	You know, like, come on.
	Dems want the be-well utopia of Demolition Man, while relegating Trump supporters as the sewers scraps, mourning from Colorado.
	That's correct, Brian.
	Yeah, because of freedom in the sewers.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, you know, I want to be walking through the streets wearing buckets of spray cheese.
	LAUGHTER Rat burger and spray.
	Yeah, yeah, right.
	Exactly.
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	King Cribble says, if I want a good understanding of Western philosophy, where should I start Plato's Republic?
	Bertrand Russell actually did a book called The History of Western Philosophy.
	It's really long, but it's really, really good.
	I read it on the flight there and back to California last time I went.
	It was like a 16-hour flight either way, so it was like...
	But it's really, really good.
	And Bertram Russell writes in a very consumable style.
	Art Circle says, If turtles had breasts, they'd be on their backs lest they chafe off.
	Okay.
	Thanks, man.
	You did miss one there.
	If you want a good understanding of Western philosophy, where should I start?
	No, I read that.
	Oh, sorry.
	KM says, the way that the left behaves is exactly like the Catholic Church anyway.
	Compare what is considered okay in both groups.
	Yeah, we were talking about this earlier as well.
	But we'll talk about that at the time.
	Student of History says, touche.
	And Red Lightning says, I have no idea why apostates become leftists.
	I have a hypothesis.
	It's a weird position for me to be in.
	I'll subscribe to at the end of the month.
	Well, thank you very much.
	But anyway, thank you everyone for joining us.
	Are they looking for safety, maybe?
	I think it's about direction and meaning, right?
	Because if you abandon a kind of belligerent belief structure and nothing is there to replace it, then what are you going to do?
	And if you're buying into the sort of axioms of the Enlightenment, saying, oh, freedom is the greatest good and all of these other things, it's like, okay, well, you know, you end up going down the path of the leftists because they're the ones who are most committed to it.
	I mean, like, they want freedom from...
	Biological essentialism.
	I'm not a man.
	I'm not a woman.
	I'm a transcendent being through space and time.
	Watch me shave off all my head and chop off parts of my body.
	So you're in revolt against reality at this point.
	But anyway, we'll talk about it another time, because maybe we can get some stuff together, actually.
	Yeah, because it's reminding me of people who leave a certain country and they go to the southern country.
	They always end up becoming massive Christians, really involved, because the old country had a huge religious system.
	Anyway, we'll be back at the same time tomorrow, and if you want more content from us, you can go to loces.com and find it.

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