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Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Seaters for Thursday the 17th of December 2020.
Today I'm joined by Callum and we are going to be talking about how the critical election interference report has been, or looks like it will be delayed at the very best, and how the Conservatives are finally taking action against critical race theory and among other a few bits and bobs that we'll cover.
So I guess we'll begin with the interference report because this is the thing that's been bothering me because I'm watching the US election with white knuckles and just wide eyes and rather breathless throughout the whole thing.
So, as we've been covering and covered yesterday, this revolves around the executive order that Sidney Powell has been talking about.
I actually have found the number for it.
Someone provided it to me in those comments.
Thank you very much.
It's Executive Order 13848, which was issued on 12th of September 2018, which says, Well, today is day 44. today is day 44.
all.
I don't think it's been particularly good news all around.
So I guess we'll begin with John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence, saying this to CBS News.
What did Ratcliffe say about election fraud and interference?
Well, DNI Radcliffe leads the 17 intelligence agencies, and he has access to the most highly classified information that is held by the U.S. government.
And he told CBS News that there was foreign election interference by China, Iran, and Russia in November of this year.
And he is anticipating a public report on those findings in January.
All well and good in January.
But like I said, we're on the 44th day.
And the Office of the Director of National Intelligence tweeted out this.
Amanda Skoch, Director of Strategic Communications says: "This afternoon the DNI was notified by career intelligence officials that the intelligence community will not meet the December 18 deadline set by Executive Order and Congress to submit the IC's classified assessment Director of Strategic Communications says: "This afternoon the DNI was notified by career intelligence officials that the intelligence We'll not meet the December 18 deadline set by Executive Order and Congress to submit the IC's classified assessment on foreign threats to the 2020 US elections.
The IC has received the Intelligence Committee and has received relevant reporting since the election and a number of agencies have not finished coordinating on the product.
The DNI is committed to providing this report to our customers expeditiously.
Weird framing and weird language there, right?
To our customers.
Strange.
But either way, what this shows is that they're not going to have the required report ready, so Donald Trump would be able to take executive action on what, as Ratcliffe says, is apparently evidence of interference by China, Iran and Russia in the US 2020 election.
The question, I suppose, is why not?
Well, as Fox News reports, sources familiar with the report told Fox News there is dispute within the intelligence community over what should be included in it.
They say that a number of senior intelligence analysts are adamant that China sought to influence the 2020 election, while a number of others are downplaying China's activities surrounding the election.
Some analysts claim that China's efforts were minimal, or only plans that were ultimately not acted upon, while others are arguing that there is ample, raw intelligence about China's intentions and actions.
When asked where the Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe stands, a senior intelligence official told Fox News that, quote, all Ratcliffe wants is for the intelligence to be reflected accurately and honestly with regard to China and everything else.
But we'll get into Ratcliffe's opinion on China very shortly.
Meanwhile, in an interview with Fox News earlier this month, Ratcliffe had said that China is the greatest national security the Americans face.
The intelligence is so clear that China is our greatest threat, people equate other things or say, oh, you know, Russia is a great threat.
When they do this, they are politicising intelligence.
He added, I'm hoping now that the election is over, now that people have voted, and if there is a Biden administration, that they will get past politicizing intelligence and be honest about China, acknowledge that China and China alone is the greatest national security threat we face.
Now, I don't think for a second that Joe Biden's administration is going to consider China to be a national security threat.
I think they're going to view them as essentially a giant bank account that they can withdraw money from.
I probably should have included the story about...
Hunter Biden, more emails have come out.
Hunter Biden requesting $10 million and after thanking Chinese government agency, I think it was, from the entire Biden family.
So our well wishes from the entire Biden family.
Can we have $10 million?
But I won't go into it because I didn't get it up for this.
But yeah, I don't think for a second, with all we know about Joe Biden's links to China and his family's links to China, and the way that the Chinese view Joe Biden, I don't think that there's any doubt in...
That Joe Biden is going to take some sort of hard line against China.
I think that it'll be business as usual regarding Biden and the sort of neolib, neocon consensus on China that has existed since roughly George Bush, but probably back to Clinton.
But anyway, Ratcliffe himself seems to be very pro-Trump.
Very much pro-Trump.
He retweets Trump.
He's said nothing but glowing things about Trump.
And he seems to be very woke on the China problem.
On December 3rd, he had written this Wall Street Journal op-ed, in which it's just titled, China is national security threat number one.
The intelligence is clear.
Beijing intends to dominate the US and the rest of the planet economically, militarily, and technologically.
Many of China's major public initiatives and prominent companies offer only a layer of camouflage to the activities of the Chinese Communist Party.
I call its approach of economic espionage rob, replicate, and replace.
China robs the U.S. companies of their intellectual property, replicates the technology, then replaces the U.S. firms in the global marketplace.
Now, this is something that with the leak of 2 million Chinese Communist Party members who are in various positions in massive companies around the world, you would think they would be more concerned about.
It seems that we now have the director of national intelligence saying, well, yeah, this is what they do.
So it all seems to be completely out in the open.
Everything is now revealed.
We can see everything, it seems.
He says the U.S. government estimates that China's intellectual property theft costs America as much as $500 billion a year.
which is staggering That's $46,000 per US household.
Beijing is apparently preparing for an open-ended period of confrontation with the US and Washington, so Washington should also be prepared.
Leaders must work across partisan divides to understand the threat, speak about it openly, and take action to address it.
Now, I mean, I agree that, obviously, leaders must speak across partisan divide to do exactly what he's saying there.
But that's not likely, is it?
I mean, what are the odds that Joe Biden is suddenly like, well, actually, yeah, China is the problem.
You know, we're no longer friends with Beijing or something like that, you know, however Di Dongsheng was describing it.
It's just not going to happen.
And it's...
I mean, I'm particularly concerned about this because it seems that, as we reported the other day, Joe Biden is just openly owned by China.
They seem to just be saying, well, we are essentially controlling the establishment, the way they described it, of the United States.
And so how can anyone be optimistic for a Joe Biden presidency in the light of what their own director of national intelligence is telling them?
I mean, I'm genuinely concerned.
But what this means is presumably there will be no great levelling on Friday, although obviously tomorrow we'll find out.
I don't know what's going to happen.
I don't think anyone knows what's going to happen.
The reporting on this is very, very recent and rather narrow, frankly.
It was only Bloomberg, Fox News, and a couple of others that I could find that had actually covered this.
I don't really know what to make of it.
I don't really know where we're going from here.
But I thought that people might find it useful to have this update and say, look, it may be that nothing comes of all of this.
I mean, I don't really have much else to say on that specific point either.
But I am interested in the comparisons here because the executive order was brought in to deal with the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory.
The idea that Russia had hacked the election and blah blah blah.
And of course the easy comparison would be, well, what about is this Biden-China thing, the whole right-wing conspiracy theory equivalent?
And I can see some, you know, people being a bit deranged, but there actually seems to be substance here.
It's not a paper tiger in the same way Russia was.
Because, you know, what had Trump actually done with Russia?
He said some, in American context, nice things in the sense that they're not our enemies.
You know, they're not the Soviet Union anymore.
He could get on with Putin and things like that.
Yeah, whereas, you know, I'm unaware of any Trump Jr.
deals with Putin's government, or, you know, massive amounts of money being given to the big guy.
Well, you're unaware of it because it didn't happen, because they did a three-year-long investigation into this, uncovered, unturned every stone, and it was...
It was kind of QAnon-ish, you know, where it was just like, oh, you know, keep the faith.
This is going to happen.
This is going to happen.
It's like, in the end, it turned out that after every stone had been unturned, literally nothing had come up.
And this was a public embarrassment for the Democrats, frankly.
Yeah, but it's also the fact that the Russians are, as much as they like to prop themselves up, Obama was right calling them a regional power at this point.
They're not a global threat in the same way they ever were, or in the same way China is.
China is far more in a position to do this kind of thing.
Yeah, no, I totally agree with that assessment.
And the funny thing about the Russia investigation is the lack of fruit that it bore.
I mean, by comparison, I watched Rudy Giuliani's video talking about this yesterday.
He'd put it up on YouTube.
And he was saying how, essentially, the media is trying to conflate Joe Biden's ties to China with Trump's non-existent ties to Russia.
And the way that they were doing it is, you know, this laptop, it hasn't been confirmed, it hasn't been verified, who knows, it may be mythical.
And really, Julianne's like, I have the laptop.
I'm the one with possession of it.
You can't just pretend like this is, you know, with the Trump-Russia stuff, like the Steele dossier, the piss dossier, you know, where things were just obviously made up.
The only BuzzFeed would report them because everyone else was like, no, that's clearly nonsense.
Obviously just part of smear campaigns.
Trump Jr.'s laptop wasn't seized.
Exactly.
And then it had references to deals in Moscow, didn't it?
Exactly.
If Trump Jr.
had been taking $3.5 million from the mayor of Moscow's wife, like Hunter Biden did, then I would think that that would have been rather bigger news.
But no, after the Russian investigation, nothing was evident.
I kind of love your comparison there of the leftist keep the faith.
Because it kept all the way up until the election because the keep the faith went up to the Hunter Biden laptop saying this is Russian disinformation.
It's like, for Christ's sake, these people are not the Soviet Union.
They've got their problems, they're interested in this sort of thing, I get it, but they're not...
They wish they were.
They wish they had this.
They wish they were as dangerous as you're making them out to be.
Russian troll farms on social media.
We are operating a bigger troll farm than Russia.
What are you talking about?
Better at it too.
Yeah, exactly.
We're better at it too.
But yeah, that's the thing.
The comparison between the two is merely a logical one.
As in, if state X gives money to politician Y or his family or son...
Then this is inappropriate and this is corruption and therefore.
But you need to be able to prove the linkages going between.
There was no linkage at all proved with Donald Trump.
It was just he had said not openly hostile things about the state and Putin.
And not just that, but Hillary Clinton, you know, she comes out of the era of the Cold War.
They all do.
You know, all of the sort of boomer neocons, neolibs.
So I imagine that a lot of them are still in the frame of mind that all rushes the big scary power.
Yeah, China's the guy we can work with in the same way it was like trying to open up the markets and we'll liberalise them.
It's like that ship sailed at least 10 years ago.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I mean, wasn't it Nixon who opened up China?
Yeah, it was part of a...
I mean, in the sense that they've fully opened up their economy and it's not liberalised in the slightest.
Well, it was part of a grand strategy that they thought was going to liberalise China.
It turned out that the Chinese Communist Party has got no interest in doing anything other than benefiting their own interests.
And if liberalisation wasn't part of it, then no.
And civil rights certainly weren't part of it, you know.
And so, yeah, I agree with you, that ship sailed.
You know, Russia is just not the great threat, but it looms in the American imagination.
And so it's very easy for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden to just go, oh, Russia, Russia, Russia, and everyone's like, oh God, the scary Russians, and they are scary, don't get me wrong, but they're not scary now.
They're not the actual problem that the United States faces, and I do think that they wish they had the influence the Democrats were attributing to them.
Whereas China actually has evidence of them doing this.
We've got admissions from people directly connected to the Chinese Communist Party.
We've got the emails involved.
We've got the bank transfers that have been logged.
We know where the money's gone.
We know that they've taken this money.
We have all of the evidence.
Like, unlike with the Trump-Rush stuff, like, this is actually concrete.
It's actually on the table.
Like, Julian's like, I've got the laptop.
I have the laptop.
I have the emails.
We have all of this proof.
The FBI's actually investigating.
Yeah.
The claims aren't exactly the same either.
Like, the allegation that you laid out yesterday, I mean, most of the stuff is just about Democrats cheating.
But if we want to talk about foreign interference, the allegation of foreign interference in the Trump situation is that, what was it, the CCP has made large donations to Dominion or Broadcom, I can't remember.
That's correct.
The allegation of Trump-Russia is that Russians literally hacked the machines and was like...
Oh, the allegations for Trump are way wild.
I mean, Rachel Maddow was just left looking like a lunatic, saying that Trump was a puppet of Putin.
The memes.
You remember the memes?
Yeah.
Oh, well, which ones?
They were like memes of, like, Satan and Jesus arm wrestling.
They would be, like, labeled Trump and Hillary Clinton.
And they were like, this was made in Russia to confuse the American public.
It's like, who's falling for this?
Ha!
I love boomer conservative memes, but even this is...
Yeah, no, not even slightly persuasive.
But the point is, you know, everyone and their dog was calling...
You still get it, and you still see, like, verified checkmark leftist, not leftists, as in, you know, the communist types, but the sort of, like, verified checkmark Democrats saying that, you know, this is a Russian government, Trump's owned by Putin, and all this sort of stuff.
And it's just like, none of that's true.
There's no reason that Donald Trump would need to ally or undermine...
Why would he need $3 million from Moscow?
He doesn't need it.
He's got $3 billion.
But it's not even that.
Why would he need any support from the Russians at all?
Because he's the president.
Like, you would use support from a foreign power to achieve the highest executive office.
But if you've achieved the highest executive office, what would you be doing?
Well, the allegation was that that's how he got elected.
Although, subsequently, those verified checkmarts are also...
But they're all still saying that he is an agent of Moscow.
But an agent of Moscow to do what?
Why would he want to actually make the US subservient to an inferior power?
Why would he want that?
What does he gain?
But anyway, we're just talking about this now.
But the point is, I think that...
It may well be that forces inside the intelligence agencies that don't like Trump, and I don't want to speculate too deeply about how these might be connected to people like Clinton either, but what can be termed colloquially as the deep state may well be deliberately delaying and obfuscating and downplaying the influence of China In order to make sure that Trump can't trigger his executive order by making sure they don't get this report.
And so I'm not very optimistic, I have to say, but I'm no expert.
And so I guess we'll see how it goes.
So, all right.
A few of these and then we'll go on to the next.
Yeah, we'll do a couple of these because, yeah, it's a change of topic.
Do you have any idea where we left off?
Because I think, like, one came in yesterday before we finished.
Basket Weaver Carl.
I've been praying, but I'm still not a Christian.
I haven't been praying, and I'm still not a Christian.
Technically right.
Carl, please read Evidence That Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell.
If you're going to say that the Bible isn't historically grounded, you should at least read what is currently considered a definitive argument in the other direction.
For $50, thank you.
Well, I mean, I've read the Bible and I've studied a lot of history.
Well, I've got that book for you.
When you say historically grounded, I mean, it is grounded in history, obviously, but the Bible's accounts of various events are not really too very often aligned with the actual historical accounts of events as established by, like, archaeologists and historians.
There are a few examples of this, but I don't want to go off topic or anything like that.
So, possible pilot deviation.
And the thing is, you know, to want the Bible to be historically accurate is probably an unrealistic goal.
But possible pilot deviation.
Over 40, loses a bunch of weight, surrounded by virile young men, pretends there is a woman just off screen to cover.
We're on to you, Carl.
Look, man, I'm married.
Being gay would be a step up.
Mute stream.
Can't stay to simp today.
Peace and hate in the chat.
Possible pilot deviation.
Carl the white and Callum the red.
Way to keep it classy.
Yeah, nice shirt, Callum.
Kind of fitting in with the chair, though, I just noticed.
Oh, yeah.
Peak Wank says, I have to laugh when I hear from Hugo Simps.
Everyone knows that Callum speaking in front of the camera is the single best thing that happened in the whole FW of 2020.
Provided a moment of reading.
Charlie the Beagle says, off topic, but as they say, when in Rome.
Today is the start of Saturnalia, so to one and all low...
Is that low Saturnalia?
To one and all low Saturnalia.
I'm guessing it's the Latin phrase.
I guess it is.
Royal Oster Constabulary.
Census 2021 has started recruiting.
Right-minded people should apply and fill these positions to ensure it happens.
Change my mind.
Yes, you should.
I didn't know they'd started recruiting today, actually.
At least that's good news.
At least they're going to do a 2021 census.
They can mobilize the Kekistanis.
Yes.
But seriously, though, the 2021 census is going to be a bombshell.
People are just going to be like, wow.
You know?
Anyway.
Eric says, Yeah, they're always doing great work.
Yeah, Dev, do you think that wasn't intentional?
Like flashing a bit of flesh to up the numbers?
Come on.
Good man.
President-elect Jai Bai Dan says, The shirts are an improvement, but have you considered purple robes with the logo on the back for the whole team?
You know what?
I hadn't.
But now I am.
Penn says, Hi to you both.
I'm a student journalist from Northern Ireland, doing my final project on censorship.
Wish me luck against the communist bandits.
Best of luck, my friend.
Azathoth Pogging says, Cheers, lads.
25 years old.
I'm about to quit my job on Friday and return to uni.
Oh, good man.
Currently stressed about finances, but someone has to combat the leftist tide.
I can't do it from behind a keyboard.
That is correct.
Evan S for $49.
Thank you.
Carla's writing the pronunciation of Maryland.
It was a Catholic colony and then named after the Queen Heaven.
The Protestants want to remove the history that MD was a Catholic colony, illegal to be Catholic in eight colonies.
Thank God for good Queen Anne.
Okay, I renounce my pronunciation of Maryland.
No, you were saying Maryland, and I said the Americans say it, Maryland.
Yeah.
So, I don't know if you've seen Maryland's flag as well, the Catholic cross is on it.
I hadn't seen that, actually.
Someone also commented that you were wondering what's the difference between Kansas and Arkansas, or Arkansas.
Arkansas, yeah.
Apparently the difference is because Arkansas or Arkansas was French.
So the pronunciation is different because of that historical reason.
That doesn't surprise me.
Yeah, French and everything.
Anyway.
Let's move on to some good news, actually.
Here are some white pills today.
Yeah, got a lot of white pills today.
So we covered a lot about the critical race theory being ramped up in UK politics to the point that the UK Parliament was being forced to do this.
It's like MPs were being forced to undertake critical race theory training.
Conservative MPs were being forced to do this.
And only 40 abstained out of like 300.
Yes, which is just embarrassing for the Conservatives.
But this sort of went on, and a lot of people were rightfully upset about this.
And then the Undersecretary for Equality is Kemi Badenoch, sorry, came out and just flatline said that they were going to ban this, in schools at least.
This is not going to be taught.
This is wrong.
This is also an evil ideology.
And it's just like, all right, all the right things.
Pretty good.
And they've gone further.
So her boss has come out and said that they need to get rid of unconscious bias training altogether because it's absolute nonsense and it's just a waste of taxpayers' money, which I agree.
So the first article here is from the BBC reporting that this is happening.
Unconscious bias training to be scrapped by ministers.
So it says in here that...
Sorry, there is no evidence that changes attitudes and is urging other public sector employers to end this type of training.
So not just their department in the Equalities Department, but every government department and every public body should be getting rid of this because it doesn't work and it's a waste of time.
To the Conservative Ministers clearly listening to this podcast, well done.
Have a gold star.
Yeah, you know, you get the stick and the carrot.
When you do good things, carrot.
So, of course, the Civil Servants Union is outraged.
How could you do this to us?
It's like, I don't care.
But they said, what are ministers going to replace it with?
Nothing.
Why would we?
Like, if it doesn't work in its goals of finding racists, let's say, or training people not to be racists, then it's pseudoscience.
It's complete hokum.
And I was thinking what to compare this to, and I've got nothing else except witch dunking.
So in the medieval times, you'd dunk a witch, and if she fell to the bottom, then she was a witch and she needed to die.
And if she floated, they would set fire to her because she was a witch and she needed to die.
Yeah.
Sorry, no, if she went to the bottom, that proves she wasn't a witch, but she would die.
She died a virtuous Christian woman.
So she died either way.
It was just complete pseudoscience to prove that this person needed to die.
And this is the same thing.
You're just like, we know you're a racist, so we're going to run this pseudoscience to prove you're racist.
But how are you going to find the witches?
Exactly.
So now we've proven that this witch trial, sorry, I guess racist trial, doesn't work.
And the civil servants union is like, yeah, but how are we going to find them then?
It's like...
It doesn't work.
Like, what do you want me to do?
But more importantly, why is it that you think that the civil service is staffed by racists?
Why do you think that the civil service is just riddled with racists?
Why is that in the front of your mind?
Probably they would argue because it's overrepresented of white straight males.
Because I was cursed to have an infection on my genitals, that's why.
Yeah.
And I know it was old lady grot bags down the road who did it to me, that's why.
The civil service are actually evil on this.
I have a personal vendetta against them.
Because they issued a diversity internship.
I know he was at university at the time.
Ran into a recruiter for this.
Just thought it was an internship, like any other.
Went through the questions that just said you weren't eligible.
I was like, oh, that's weird.
So I went home and checked it up.
And if you are, you have to either be disabled, have brown skin, or from an economically disadvantaged background.
So being a poor person or being a minority is as disadvantaging as being disabled.
That's the civil service position in hiring for diversity internships.
That's very progressive.
But of course, the point here is, if you're an upper class person with brown skin, you will be accepted for at least trying, you know, they will look at your application.
But if you have white skin, no.
This somehow isn't illegal in the UK. Well, hang on a second.
Maybe they're right that the civil service is riddled with racists, and the conservative government maybe does need a method of rooting them out.
I would suggest that possibly public support of Jeremy Corbyn might be an indicator that this is in fact a racist, and maybe they could check their social media feeds or something.
That's what they're going to replace it with.
I'm all in favour, but honestly, I'd love to get the people who are responsible...
A bit of British McCarthyism going on, I think.
The people who are responsible for this ought to be openly denounced.
Yeah, well, I mean...
Just bring them out and be like, look, what did you do?
Like, explain to me why that's not racist.
I think that what they're saying is that they are racist.
I think these people might actually be racist.
And they seem to be very concerned about racism in all places, in all times, especially in their own organisation.
So it's like, okay, you're a bunch of racists.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
So there's another statement, someone trying to defend this critical race theory training.
So, Mr.
Guilford, an advisor to the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development.
Guilford, it is.
Sorry, Guilford.
So just a HR, you know, typical kind of person.
Hang on now.
So, yeah.
Advisor to the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development.
So someone whose job is just a make-work job, and if he disappeared tomorrow, things would probably run more smoothly.
Yeah.
So his statement on this in response was, the government should not try and stop to make the workplace more inclusive, and it should not try and reduce barriers to inequality.
I think this guy's a racist.
I think that he's a white supremacist.
I think that he has an inherent assumption that white people are more successful and do better than black or brown people, and he thinks that black and brown people are kept out because of this inferiority that they possess.
I want to just be very clear.
I denounce Mr.
Gifford's opinion wholeheartedly, unequivocally.
I think the races are equal, and I think that he is a vile man who should be fired.
His next sentence makes this more clear.
It's him saying, to dismiss this as political correctness or being woke is a very shaky place to be.
Why?
The fact that he's using the word woke tells me that, okay, you know what's going on here.
Yeah.
You know that this is just racist nonsense.
Yeah.
And you just want to keep it because...
It's woke racism and you're a woke racist and you should be fired.
Yeah.
Like, there's not much more to say in it.
Like, these people are just scum, in my opinion.
I can't stand them.
So this is the BBC trying to be neutral on it.
This is the right-wing press, The Sun, talking about it, which I find to be more truthful.
Ironically, the sun becomes a bastion of truth.
Yeah, which, I mean, the sun and the Daily Mail are terrible, 99% of the time.
Well, I never thought I'd be citing Fox News.
Like, if you go back 10 years ago, Fox News was the watchword.
That was the way you described how, you know, someone was being a bad journalist.
Like, oh, this is like something I read on Fox News.
CNN is that now.
Exactly.
It's switched.
It's amazing.
So some of the quotes here, so a quote from the government saying, no evidence that this training challenges behavior in a long term or improves workplace equality.
So it does nothing.
It also states that there is emerging evidence of unintended negative consequences.
So the people who are going through this critical race theory training seem to be getting more racist.
They're actually training them to be racists by raising their racial consciousness, as critical race theorists Kimberley Crenshaw and others have said that that is the point of critical race theory.
It is to make them think in racial terms, because you can't exactly analyze the inequalities of racism without considering all of these racial aspects.
And yeah, I'm not surprised there are unintended negative consequences.
As anyone who's read their books would know, this is not unintended.
No.
This is the purpose of their training.
Yeah.
Is they want to raise racial consciousness.
Yeah.
I mean, you can look at anything about white fragility or any critical race theory, and they will expressly say that they want there to be a white identity, and they want it to be negative.
And this is so they can...
Discriminate on the basis of race against white people without white people objecting to being racially discriminated against.
But as someone who's against racial discrimination, why should I accept that?
Why should I accept that identity or framing?
You know, I don't think of myself as a white person.
It's also just a scumbag thing to do.
It doesn't mean anything.
I don't mean to harp on about myself, but I'm...
I think I'm 23.
Either 23 or 23.
Old man Callum.
I'm not actually sure, but that's the point.
born it was 1997 yeah okay now you could argue maybe that someone who grew up in the 50s or 60s or 70s or you know racist periods in britain where open racism took place the government openly discriminated against people on the basis of race therefore you've had some kind of advantage therefore we ought to give the people who didn't have that advantage some kind of leg up because you've had another advantage like i know that the progressives think racism Sounds like the origin story of Dan Abbott, doesn't it?
Yeah.
I know the progressives think that racism is eternal and will never end and we will always live in a racist society.
It's inherently baked into the fact that we live in England.
I think I've got this right.
I don't think I've ever lived in a year where racial discrimination has been legal.
That's a good point.
At what point do you say that this is not this kid's fault?
And there's a great image of a Japanese girl and people saying, you know, are you going to blame her for Pearl Harbor?
Is it her fault?
Of course not.
In which case, do you blame historic racism on your son?
Alexander has just been pointed.
Depends how progressive we are.
But this is the absurdity where it's any reasonable person because the progressives are not reasonable.
They're objectively unreasonable.
In fact, we actually have a legal case in America featuring myself in which a progressive was termed as objectively unreasonable.
So that's true.
This needs to die.
This worldview in which we say that you need to be punished because of historic wrongdoings.
Yeah.
I don't agree, but I could see the argument for someone who lived through a racist period.
But for kids, newborn kids today, how is it their fault?
Yeah, the difference is whether you're looking at the consequences or at the procedure, right?
Because they're looking at the consequences and saying, well, because of X, Y, or Z, and even then I think these are things that you could definitely challenge through argument.
But let's not bother with that for now.
Because the consequences are racial inequality, therefore we can change the procedures to be about racial discrimination.
And that's only going to guarantee more racism and racial inequality or, you know, changing of things.
Especially as, as we will come to in a bit, the people who are arguing for these changes and for these racist and otherwise sexist, classist, whatever procedures, are not interested in following them themselves.
They're simply hypocrites, and I think this is just a means to power.
Absolutely right.
Just to move on here, so Ben Bradley is quoted in The Sun.
He was one of the MPs, one of the 40...
He's one of the conservative MPs who's actually any good.
Yeah, he refused to take this.
He said, look, this is racist nonsense.
We're not paying for this.
Should pay for it as well.
And he is quoted, and I want to give him a fair shake because he's done a good job here, saying, I welcome the fact that we are no longer going to be wasting taxpayers' money on it.
Absolutely right.
The only thing I am critical of here, right...
Is the fact that they are saying, well, it doesn't work and it's a waste of money, implying that if it did work, then it wouldn't be a waste of money and therefore it would be fine to subject us all to communist critical race theory training.
That's not correct, right?
And that's the problem I have with this, because what it doesn't do is really address the root of the problem, which is the philosophy that we are seeing espoused through it.
Even if it did work, let's say they'd managed to figure out a process that was actually capable of doing it.
That's not going to be the only way of reducing racism.
I mean, we seem to have reduced racism to minuscule proportions.
Microaggressions.
Yeah, to microaggressions, literally, by just using liberal philosophy.
So why do we have to flip into a sort of mode of communism in order to continue doing this?
We should be objecting to that on the basis of what it is and the construction of it, not just for the fact that it's ineffective.
The way they go about things is immoral.
It's directly opposed to our moral systems, and we shouldn't accept it on that basis.
And that's the only criticism, really, I have for the conservatives here.
It's not good enough to say that practically it didn't work, because what you're saying is principally it was acceptable.
Principally it is not acceptable, and you should have addressed it on that level first, and then gone on to the practical.
But that's all right.
You guys can pick that up next time.
You're absolutely right, and I will give credit where credit is due to Kemi, who did do that.
She said this is an evil ideology.
Yes.
She does seem to be fantastic.
The response from the left is, of course, never to give up, because why would they?
So here's the Guardian asking, well, why would we get rid of witch dumping, even if it doesn't work?
So UK ministers criticised for failing to find an alternative to unconscious bias training.
Well, we've got to do something about that racist civil service.
They are right.
Apparently, here it's full of witches, so we've got to do something.
Go to the civil service website, you'll find the guys who wrote it.
It's not hard.
You don't have to run unconscious bias training on them.
They have their names on there.
Anyway.
So, they give a statement in here...
Before we go on, actually, I think it is fair within their own framework to presuppose that these people are racists as well.
If they're promoting white fragility, that must mean they're endorsing white fragility.
And Robin DiAngelo is explicit in white fragility that every single white person who supports Western liberal democracies and the English common law judgment systems and things like that, that is white supremacy.
And therefore, every single one of these people is a white supremacist.
So by their own standards, I mean, yeah, I guess the civil service is full of racists.
Anyway, moving on.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
What are the racists doing?
So they give a couple of statistics in here, which is why reading multiple sources is always good.
Because, of course, the headline's nonsense.
Their argument's nonsense.
Yeah.
But you can get information that's useful.
So they give two pieces of information that are worthwhile.
A systematic review of unconscious bias training examining 492 studies involving more than 87,000 participants found changes to unconscious bias measurements were not associated with changes in behavior.
That's how bad this is.
It does not work.
Do you want to know something, though?
The chap...
I can't remember who it was.
I think it was a pair of scientists who created it.
They have said...
I should have looked this up in advance, really.
They came out and said years ago that this is not being used for its intended purpose.
It's not meant to be like a thetan reader, where you can tell how witchy someone is by giving them this test.
Because, I mean, I've done one of these unconscious bias tests, and...
It's hard to know how they know that they're getting the results they think they're getting.
Because, for example, you've got to react at certain times.
So if you see a white face and a black face, whichever one you react to quicker determines your bias.
But is it bias for or against?
I mean, if I react quicker to the black face rather than the white face...
How do you know that's a bias in favor of the black and against the white?
Is that sure that you love them or you're fearful?
Exactly.
You don't know, right?
You don't know what that means.
And you're measuring reaction times in milliseconds, fractions of a second.
And so it's just like, I might be having a negative biased reaction, but you're recording it and vice versa.
But they've said this.
They've said, look, this is not what this is designed for.
And the progressive left is not using this appropriately.
Yeah.
So this isn't even a surprise.
We've known for ages that this is bunk.
But the depressing part is the other piece of information they give us.
That nearly 170,000 staff across the civil service have taken part in sessions in the past five years.
Struggle sessions, yeah.
The curriculum has been scaled up to include four modules in diversity and inclusion training.
Yeah, this is the cathedral of leftism working its way through our institutions.
The Conservatives should defund all of it.
Yeah, and to talk about funding, if we can get the Daily Mail one up, just, they had the, this was Ben Bradley complaining, that it was £7,000 for this course, and they just had a giant blue puppet telling you you're a racist.
Honestly, that's cheaper than I was expecting.
I'm amazed they didn't blow more money on this.
I don't know if this is per MP or whatnot.
Oh, right.
But the course that did this has also done it in the Scottish Parliament and some other of the Gaelic nations.
So this is just a grift.
This is just open grift.
So what you guys should do is go to lodacies.com and sign up so we can afford to take this course.
And we'll record ourselves doing it and being subjected to the course so you can find out what's in it if you want.
We don't have to, actually, thanks to the next chap.
But you do still need to sign up.
Yes, you do.
So this is a conservative MP who did not side with Ben Bradley because he's a little bit subversive, and I quite like this.
So he decided to go to the training just to document what was happening.
Right, okay.
It's hilarious.
So we can't read the whole thing, but we'll put a link in the description for the clips.
So just some quotes from him.
The first hint that something was amiss at my unconscious bias training was the sight of a grown man mimicking a sheep.
I mean, start as you mean to go on, I guess.
Yeah.
This was not the sort of teaching session I was expecting.
I bet it wasn't.
Shortly to follow, an optical illusion about the size of a table, a musical interlude from an Orthodox Jewish rapper, and a random reference to the contestant of The Apprentice.
Okay.
Getting the point.
My two-hour session was a blizzard of pseudoscience and psychological ghost hunting, knitted together with a barely coherent narrative.
Unconscious bias training does not offer wisdom or knowledge.
We're not looking for wisdom or knowledge.
We're trying to persuade people that they're racist so they'll change the entire system that they have in order to better fulfill communist ideals.
But it's great to have...
I'm literal about what I say.
That's literally what they're saying.
This is the purpose, which is why it ends up being such nonsense.
But the fact that it's such nonsense, I think, really gets home to anyone who's not too sure, doesn't really know whether or not the purposes behind it are this communist...
You mean Labour supporters, yeah.
Well, more Lib Dems, to be honest.
Labour supporters are just open socialists.
True.
Good point.
But the more normie types...
If you'd be looking at this as any layman, would you not be wondering to yourself, why do I pay taxes?
Yes.
What is the point?
It seems to be theft.
It's absolute theft.
So we have some quotes from Liz Truss on this, just to blitz through so we can get her position on this, and then we should be done.
So...
Oh, wait.
No, that's the next one.
That's the next segment.
I guess we'll cut it there and we'll do this now, so then we can cut it in properly.
So, do you want me to choose it, or are you?
Well, are we ready for this, aren't we?
I thought you were going to tell us about Liz Truss.
No, we're going to do Liz Truss as a separate segment.
Oh, right, yeah, okay, good point.
It ties in, but it's slightly different.
No, no, you go ahead.
Okay, so we also have some great news from...
Sneezing.
So we also have some great news from Liz Trust, who is the Equalities Minister for the Conservatives, who is just...
She's the one that Kemi is beneath, right?
Yeah, Kemi is her Undersecretary.
And she is just blitzing through the left at the moment, and I think it's glorious.
Great, yeah, carry on.
So this is also relating, obviously, to the unconscious bias training section, but the Huffington Post have released an article trying to smear her because she's going after them.
In which they say she wants to denounce destructive forces on race and gender issues as tools of the left.
Correct.
Correct statement.
Not just correct statement, correct framing.
Exactly correct framing.
So she has clearly versed herself well on this.
Yes.
And then the smear is, well, you may want to get rid of these issues, but did you know your department has a gender wage gap?
Yes.
And the wording here is, under trust, women earn, on average, 15.9% less than their male counterparts.
Three years earlier, the gap stood at 2.7%.
Okay, but she now has to explain, or the Huffington Post, sorry, now has to explain why they shouldn't earn 15.9% less.
Yeah, the key point being earn.
Not paid, earn.
Where is the injustice that is being done?
Are they alleging an injustice?
No.
Not that I could see in the article, no.
No, they're just saying, well, we don't like the outcome here.
Well, too bad.
The process was followed correctly, I assume, and we ended up with this outcome, and therefore that's the just outcome.
Of course, the Huffington Post being a left-wing outlet, they instantly reach for the Labour Party shadow minister on women's issues to get a comment.
And her comment was, it raises serious questions about the government's commitment to closing the gender pay gap.
Yes.
That's not a conservative position.
The gender pay gap is justified if women in aggregate earn less money than men.
But you see the little Freudian slip there.
They're admitting it's an earnings gap, but then when they ask the Labour person, they say it's a pay gap.
Well, that's true.
But I love it.
The questions about the government's commitment to closing the gender pay gap.
The government should just come out and say, we don't have a commitment to that.
That's a communist commitment.
We're not communists.
We're all for the free market, and the free market means everyone's going to be different, and hopefully free, reaching their potential.
And then they can start going into a big speech about how actually this is about how human achievement works.
Look at the Pareto distribution.
We can't expect everyone to be the same, but we can...
Make sure that the people who are working hard and earning freely get what they deserve.
Unlike the communists.
It's your lucky day, Carl.
They didn't go quite that far.
But they are listening.
This is obviously proving...
She's saying this nonsense is just tools of the left to beat us with.
And then they reach out to the leftists who then use it as a tool to beat them with.
She's like, you proved my point.
This isn't a smear.
This is just proving me right.
Yeah.
But they're absolutely right, because there's no winning within this framework.
If it's set up by the left, the left will win.
Sorry, go ahead.
So the next article is, I think it's The Telegraph, reporting on what she's actually doing in her speech.
Right.
So she wants to pivot away from fashionable race, sexuality, and gender issues to focus on poverty and inequalities.
That's what a white supremacist would say.
Yeah, funnily enough, she thinks that if you're poor, living in poverty might be a bigger indicator of your chances in life than having brown skin.
Rishi Sunak's like, well, I don't know about that.
Like, Obama over here is like, would you please think of me in this talk?
No.
Anyway, so, the quotes from here that are good is that she denounced identity politics, loud lobby groups, and the idea of lived experience.
Yep.
Just put it in the bin.
Good.
That's literally everything about leftist activism destroyed.
She will outline a pivot away from quotas, targets, unconscious bias training, and diversity statements to improve equality, dismissing them as tools of the left, and do nothing to fix systems.
Bang on.
Absolutely bang on.
And what this is, is a kind of beginning of the deconstruction of the administrative state.
You know, if you are trying to fix systems, meaning society, presumably, then beginning to repeal this ethos that allows them to start meddling in everything, good start.
Very good start.
Yeah.
So you mentioned her speech.
So her speech entitled, The New Fight for Fairness, We Will Set Out Fresh Conservative Values.
So they're arguing from a value perspective that, no, this is not a conservative issue, what you guys are doing.
We're going to do conservative things.
Okay.
Which, good.
So she lists them as freedom, choice, opportunity, and individual humanity and dignity.
So liberal values.
Yeah, a bit vague on the end of there, but the rest of it, freedom, choice, yeah.
Yeah, that's exactly what you should be arguing for.
That's why the earning gaps exist, because of choice.
Yeah, and freedom, and opportunity, and individual humanity, and dignity, in fact.
I mean, she's doing pretty great, I have to say.
Yeah, I mean, you're getting what you asked for.
Yeah.
She also criticises the narrow focus on protected characteristics set up by the 2010 Equality Act, which include age, gender, disability, racial, you know.
Yeah, yeah, gender, race, religion, sex.
You know the song by now, don't you?
Yeah.
So the point being made that this doesn't actually help anyone and we ought to be checking on other things, which is totally true.
There's also one more quote here.
Sorry, I didn't see it.
The emphasis on these categories has led to the narrowing of the equality debates that overlooks socioeconomic factors and geographic inequality.
The fact that if you're born in the North, there are a lot more issues between someone who's born in the North and the South than a white and a black person born in a rich area of London.
No, I totally agree.
I mean, what she's saying is, you know, essentially there's no central connection to disability and poverty, or gender reassignment and poverty, or race and poverty, but there is to poverty and accomplishment, things like this.
Poverty and being rich are more important.
I don't know how it took us this long, but yes.
And weirdly, the pre-intersectional left totally agreed with that.
Totally agreed with all of that.
This is how they've subverted you, leftists, by the way.
This is how they got you, to suggest that these things were equivalents when they are not.
And like Jordan Pearson says, would you rather be a minority or would you rather be ugly?
You know?
And everyone was like, I'd rather be a minority.
Because nobody wants to be ugly.
Because everyone knows that there are other factors in life that are way more important than your skin colour.
Exactly.
And she's making the point even more stark here, that would you rather live in poverty or have brown skin?
Yeah.
I'd rather have brown skin.
It's fine.
Obviously.
And a full belly, thank you, you know.
Like, if you were asking this question in, I don't know, like, slave-era America, you could get the debate.
But that proves the point that this is not the big issue that everyone makes out of it.
Not normally very pressing, is it, to most people's lives?
No.
So there's some good news in this as well, which is that there was a poll done of Conservative Party members.
I think it was Conservative Home did this.
And if you can scroll down to the graph on here, there's a graph just showing who's the most popular, who's the least popular.
And look at Liz Truss at the top there.
75 points ahead.
That's also because she's been doing all the trade deals.
She's been going country to country, getting them for Brexit.
And you can see Boris down there at 2.9.
But Boris is only marginally above Matt Hancock.
Yeah.
The greasy lizard man himself.
Come on, Boris.
You should have been saying what Liz Truster's been saying.
You can argue that, well, you know, he's more in the public eye, therefore he's got more responsibilities.
That's why he should be saying it.
In the sense that he's got more responsibilities and she's got less, therefore it's easier for her to get these highs and lows, like Gavin Williamson being the lowest, because...
Prime Ministers are usually around the middle.
Sure, sure.
But if you look at the Home Secretary there, endless praise from Conservatives, but she's only at 49.
Look at Raab.
Raab at 63%.
And the funny thing is, the Labour Party, the other day I saw this and I posted it to the Lotus Eater's Facebook page.
So follow us on Facebook, obviously, and we should be streaming live to Facebook, so if you're on Facebook, hello.
Well, they've got a list of conservative quotes taken out of context, and one of them is Dominic Raab, feminist or obnoxious bigots.
And I retweeted, well, you guys are still doing campaigning work for the conservatives here.
You're not affecting the approval of these people when you bring out them saying, I don't like the left and I think they're morally deformed.
Basically.
And Boris should have been doing that on day one and he should have been like Trump.
He should have been just full-on assault on the moral values underpinning left-wing philosophy.
Yeah, it's such a shame to see him not engaging in this because he should be trumpeting this himself.
He should be standing there with Liz Truss rolling this out.
Yeah, because, I mean, I like Boris a lot as a person, as a character, you know.
I think he's actually, you know, rather amiable and I quite like watching him and listening to him.
It's not like he's been dealt an easy hand with coronavirus, I get it.
Sure.
But you've had a lot of opportunities here that you've let go.
Yeah.
And it's a massive shame.
Yes.
So there's one more thing in this particular story that I find amazing, which is the response from a lovely left-wing MP called Dawn Butler, if we can get that up.
Dawn Butler, for anyone who doesn't know, is a very sane person and definitely not a racist.
So I want you to read this out if you can, actually.
Tory's trying to resuscitate racism.
They're desperately trying to keep racism alive.
Stay woke, stay strong, stay anti-racist.
Note that she's running scared from Parliament, and unfortunately we can't raise a UQ because Tory's shutting down Parliament today.
Thinking face.
Yeah, well, I mean, I guess it's just the white supremacy keeping you under the heel, Miss Member of Parliament.
I don't know what to tell you.
Stay woke, stay strong, stay anti-racist.
I love how she's also blowing out her ally, who was quoted in the BBC article, saying, oh, to call this woke nonsense is a dangerous area to be.
But what about when the opposition MPs are saying it's woke?
Yeah, we are woke nonsense, goddammit.
But again, in everything that the left does, it's raw projection.
The Tories are trying to resuscitate racism.
They're trying to keep racism alive.
No.
You are trying to keep racism alive.
This is what you do.
Racism is Dawn Butler's meal ticket.
Because like most of these left-wing MPs, and it's not about them being part of the demographic, but it's about the fact they can use the fact that they are part of a demographic as a shield against criticism.
And so, any kind of, you know, what does Dawn Butler ever say that's insightful?
Like, what does Jess Phillips say that's insightful, other than, I'm black, I'm a woman, I'm this?
David Lammy's a better example as well.
David Lammy's a perfect example of this.
I've yet to see a policeman around here.
He's right behind you, David.
The funniest one in human history has to be the BBC were talking about the smoke when the Pope was being elected being black or white, and he retweeted it with, is there any reason to bring race into this?
These people are not serious.
For anyone who doesn't know, the black or white smoke, what was the reason for it you looked up?
Oh, it's whether they've decided the Pope or not decided him yet.
They have another vote.
Yeah, but now it's about black or white skin.
David, you idiot.
That's what these Labour MPs do.
They're obsessed with race to the point that they just endlessly talk about it, even when it's clearly not appropriate.
Yeah, and even when it seems to be them clearly covering up their own intellectual failings.
Yeah, which is why it's justified to call these people race baiters or things like this.
It's because they are, they're racists.
What else do you call a person that gets obsessed with race from smoke?
I don't know, a racist.
I mean, David Lammy isn't exactly our best and brightest.
He was on Mastermind a few years back, and they were like, oh, what was Henry VI's son?
And he was like, Henry VI? And it's like, that's his dad, you moron.
And you can see afterwards, he's just like, damn it, I'm such an idiot.
It's like, yes.
But anyway, I'll add a bit on to the end of this, because the reason that I loathe the activists who engage in all of this sort of stuff is because the rules that they set for you are rules that they themselves will not follow.
And we have a perfect example today in Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo, Who was fined 90,000 euros, so $100,000, by France's Ministry of Public Service for appointing too many women as city officials.
Obviously, feminists had lobbied the French government to make sure that there was a law that dictated that men and women must be represented in local government at a rate of at least 40% each.
So they had 40% female representation because, you know what, patriarchy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
In 2018, her office hired 11 women and 5 men, giving women a 69% majority for these no appointments.
So you'd be like, well, why did you break your own rule?
You wanted the rule.
You've broken the rule.
And then when she comes out, as reported by Slate, she comes out and says, I'm happy to announce we've been fined.
The management of City Hall has all of a sudden become far too feminist.
Yeah.
You set it so there could be a thing as to feminist by demanding a minimum for each gender.
And when you're given this position of power, you're like, no, I don't care about these rules that I endorsed.
I don't care about this.
I'm now proud that I cost the taxpayer money for my ideology bragging about it was too feminist yes it's too feminist it should be 0% feminist which doesn't mean 0% female what's wrong with calling wasting taxpayer money for your ideology corruption how is that not corruption I would suggest it is corruption yeah I mean she broke the law deliberately she's proud of the fact she's bragging to other feminists I wasted 90,000 euros ha ha
Yeah, Slate and all of the other, you know, Huffington Post, all these Jezebel styles, oh, she's such a hero of feminism.
It's like, really, a hero of feminism is openly corrupt and openly breaks the rules that they themselves lobbied for.
That's what a hero of feminism is, isn't it?
But that's the thing I can't stand about it.
It's like, look, I don't care what laws you're lobbying for.
I don't care what you're asking for.
Because I know, fundamentally, you don't believe in them.
And the second you get the opportunity to step over the line, you're going to do it and be like, yeah, I did a good thing.
To hell with you.
To hell with them all.
Anyway, that's me pissed off now.
But otherwise, it's really good news.
We've been complaining about this, so the Conservatives should do X, and the Conservatives are now doing X. And I'm like, fair play.
Small clap, well done.
I wish the framing had been a little bit better, as you said, with saying it's inherently evil.
You can't have everything.
But, you know, Kemi's only the Undersecretary.
Maybe we should get a poster of Kemi, actually.
No, it'd be like, you ever go to an old British club that always had a portrait of the Queen in the dining hall?
Same thing.
I would pledge allegiance.
Ten out of ten.
Oh god, I hope she doesn't watch this.
Oh, maybe she will.
Actually, I hope she does.
You're doing great.
Maybe she could sign the picture as she sends over.
Charles Columbum interview when?
Oh, I don't know who that is, to be honest.
Earl of Longford, census could prompt a unification vote in Northern Ireland, Mr.
PNSI. I don't know anything about that, to be honest.
Could it?
I mean, I suppose it could.
I mean, well, are you suggesting that the, say, Catholic demographic of Northern Ireland has increased significantly to the point where the vote may well go for unification?
Wolfat de Leon says, Cue Alerts app Julian Assange is the key.
I have no idea.
Northampton Knight, can you guys look into the COVID fines issued by UK police that are actually being paid to companies owned, managed by police officers constables?
I've not heard about that.
COVID fines issued by UK police that are actually being paid to companies owned and managed by police officers and constables.
If that was the case, then I would be very interested in hearing more about it.
John TR says, he, presumably meaning you, Callum, has got a shirt but clearly not an iron.
I hope he's cleaned his room.
P.S. Carl, watch Pastor Paul Vanders Clay's video about you.
Oh, I've got a video by Pastor.
He is actually right.
I don't know anything.
No, yeah, well...
I need to go buy one.
I brought these from a shop close by.
I don't live in Swindon.
I mean, it's not too bad, to be fair.
Pastor Paul van der Klee.
Never heard of him, but I'll try and find it.
Nicholas Fitzgerald says, the goal is never to liberalise China, but to Chinify us.
State capitalism and bureaucratic totalitarianism.
They want the China model globally thanks COVID. That's definitely the plan of the left.
Steve Bannon calls it the administrative state, and I think there's a great term for it.
Initially, inherently, it's not an offensive sounding term, and it does actually encapsulate what they want.
They want to administer all of your interactions with your fellow citizens.
And make sure there's a government official monitoring everything you could potentially do, or available to interfere with everything you potentially do.
And this is not the English-speaking way, and we should reject it.
They can do that on the continent, where they're used to that kind of thing, but not here.
J.H.W. says, replace CRT and conscious bias training with lectures on the history of English-speaking peoples by Winston Churchill.
That's a great idea.
What are you going to replace it with?
Churchill.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the thing.
No, he's a racist!
But this is what Trump did, essentially.
He said, we're going to have American education instead of critical race theory.
And they need to do an equivalent.
And it would be good.
No, I agree.
Learn something useful, at least.
Yeah, exactly.
Stigma of the Rose.
Down with all non-Sargon simps.
It's time to rebuild the Boomer Empire.
Yes, I agree.
Tooth and Stick says...
I agree as well, by the way.
What do you think the appropriate level of personal responsibility concerning the virus since one's personal decisions directly affect the well-being of others?
Cheers, gents.
Keep up the good work.
Well, obviously, don't go around coughing in people's faces.
And you should be able to, if you have COVID symptoms or have a positive test, you should...
You know, be available to be able to stay in quarantine and self-quarantine, things like this.
And obviously, you know, masks should be an accepted thing if people want to do, but I don't think anything should be mandated.
Yeah, I mean, do what you reasonably can do to mitigate it.
And if you reasonably think you may be infected with the virus, don't spread it.
Yeah, just take, you know, sensible levels of personal responsibility.
What else is personal responsibility?
I don't know what else it would be.
Yeah.
To be honest with you, again, it's just not that dangerous.
We're talking as if it's the Black Death, but it's not.
Brad P says, it was never about removing bias, it was about installing the proper bias.
Yes.
Correct.
Absolutely right.
Will the Impaler says, in my company, an international bank, they are running an internship based solely on skin colour.
They don't even consider economic background.
Well, that is the progressive way forward.
But this is why Trump was right to just call it racist.
And this is why people like Kemi and that are right to just...
Stand firmly on this hill.
This is the hill to die on.
Critical race theory and critical race training and all of this progressive woke nonsense, white fragility, it's all based on racism and therefore you reject it because we are opposed to racism.
That's the hill they die on.
And this is not a hill you can lose.
No, you're going to win, yeah.
Like, openly saying to people, we shouldn't discriminate against white kids for being white.
Sorry, how's that wrong?
Who's going to be like, no, actually, you know, death the whitey?
Well, the progressives.
But they're going to be like, what are you doing about racism?
They're like, we're firing it.
I know, but it's the point of like, we always play this game of always, let's talk about diversity training.
But if you just openly say, no, you're discriminating against white kids for being white, we're not going to do that.
You know, just make it very specific.
Who's going to come out and be like, actually, nah.
The racists.
Which is going to make them look ridiculous.
Dawn Butler's going to be furious.
Let's do it.
Ask Sarkars all over Twitter, fuming probably.
Great opportunity to plug some of the articles we have on theloaderseaters.com.
That's true.
So we have a section which we're updating as we get more information about government-funded racism.
So like that diversity internship, that's on there, a bunch of others.
Whenever our government or any government we can find engages in this.
And also we have a bunch of private companies.
So if you can send us some information about that internship, I'll write something about it.
Yeah, if you can, screenshots or any documents or anything like that, send it to tips at logicies.com.
We are more than happy to publish this.
In fact, someone sent me through something the other day.
I've had it in a browser tab for a bunch of days because I haven't found the time to go through it.
But it is as woke and as radical as you can imagine it.
I mean, it begins with white fragility and then goes on to more radical thinkers.
And so it's like, right, okay, this is wild.
Mr.
Mayo says, wait, I'm 23 in the back of an Amazon truck.
If he's 23 and doing this as well, I can too.
I'm starting a talk show ASAP. Yeah, go for it, man.
What's stopping you?
It's one of these things.
When you meet your parents and they don't understand what a YouTube channel is and how it's difficult and you explain, you sign up and you're done.
And then people wonder, oh, there's a lot of comments on endless Google forums.
How do I start making videos?
It's not that hard.
Just buy a microphone, say some things and then get some editing software and put some images to it.
If people like what you do, that's great.
If there was a high barrier to entry, I wouldn't have been able to do it.
No.
There's a reason there's so many randos there.
Yeah, exactly.
Geru says, Colourblind literally means Adolf.
H for the wokes.
Yes, it does.
I mean, they...
Well, I mean...
Ironically, they could actually have a conversation with Hitler on terms that they would both agree to and understand.
This has happened.
This has happened.
Do you remember Tariq Nasheed and what is it?
Jared Taylor.
Taylor, yes.
And not only that, there was Millennial Woes talked to...
What was the long-necked Antifa professor?
Eric Clanton?
No, he had a really weird long neck.
But he was a kill-the-cop style professor.
He got fired in the end.
But Millennial Woes talked to him, and they were having a racist conversation with each other on terms they agreed with.
And I was starting to think, well, I object to just the framing of this.
But they were both engaging in the same rhetoric.
There's a reason they understand each other.
Exactly.
They're just two sides of the same coin.
So yeah.
Alpha Omega Record says, "The Tories might actually end up doing good in our...
"may actually end up in our good books.
"Critical race ban, immigration bill, "not giving in to the EU, etc.
"And oh, Karl, stop getting buff "or you might have to deal with us gay simping." I'm okay with that if it costs you £10 a time.
Calendar win.
That's actually a good point, which is...
Subscribe to my OnlyFans.
Not that one.
The complex point of who do you support?
I'm going to ask you specifically, I guess, because there's a lot of things to be disappointed in Boris and all the rest of it.
It's basically a two-party state, and politics isn't perfect.
You are not going to get your perfect party.
There are going to be bad things.
But how many good things do they have to do before you think, okay, actually...
All of them.
That's an unrealistic standpoint.
And on day one.
That's unrealistic.
No, it's not.
Well, Trump does it.
Trump hasn't done that.
Yeah, he did.
No, no, no.
He hasn't done everything he wanted to do.
Yeah, but he's not a dictator.
But what I mean is...
Neither are the conservatives.
Yeah, no, that's fine.
If they can't do something, that's fine.
But what I don't want to hear is meme-y mouth-wide, well, we want diversity and inclusion.
It's like, do we?
No, we don't.
We want highly exclusive institutions that keep idiots out and promote only the best.
So we have excellence.
Meritocracy.
Exactly.
Meritocracy, standards.
That's what we want, is standards.
And standards, by definition, is an exclusive concept.
You know, I'm not qualified to do these things.
Keep me out.
You know, only taking people who know what they're doing can actually achieve their goals.
Well, that's the thing, you know, getting rid of critical race theory, as he says, saying to the EU, if he does go for no deal, he's still got time to mess up.
But it doesn't matter.
Boris should be using what is effectively the sort of moral bully pulpit of being the Prime Minister to go out and constantly rag on everything leftist, everywhere.
Should be, but as I say, politics isn't perfect.
You will get people doing things...
The only thing that not doing this costs him is his popularity.
I understand.
There is zero financial cost to this.
What's the realism of it?
Because, yeah, okay, he's doing bad stuff, but how much good stuff does he have to do before you're like, eh, don't really like you that much, but you are doing the good things?
Or at least the party is doing the good things.
It really depends on the perspective that you're taking.
And my perspective is that he should actually be showing moral leadership at this point.
And so even if he does all of the good things in the world, and by the end of it, the Conservatives have actually done exactly what I would have done were I in their position.
If he shows no moral leadership, then the left...
The man himself, if he shows no overt moral leadership, then the left will continue to beat the conservatives and beat the traditional sort of voting blocs of the UK as if they are bad.
And it is very much contingent on them resisting the very first accusation that there is a problem.
No, there's not a goddamn problem.
You are a communist infiltrator.
That's what you are.
I want them called out by name and rejected on that ground.
That'll be it.
Yeah.
Anyway, we should be up.
Yeah, sorry.
Sorry to diverge so much.
If the civil service wants to replace CRT with something else, why not some patriotic education?
Force these civil servants to love their country.
Yeah, I mean, I would be up for them having some Kipling lectures or something like that.
Stuart McLean says...
Make me go to church.
Yeah, absolutely.
Make them go to church.
Just patriotic church.
Yeah.
Listen to Kipling explain to them why being a man is a difficult thing and why they have to slow down and think about things and all this sort of stuff.
All this really broad and deep thoughts that have taken a long time to put together.
Or we could call everyone a racist.
I don't know.
Stuart McLean says, only a racist sees the world in terms of race.
Well, yeah.
I mean, definitionally.
Yeah, and like I said, I always reject the framing.
You know, I don't identify myself as a white person.
If I were to describe myself, then sure, maybe you could say that, but there's no, like, deep identity of white that I ascribe to.
Like, why should I have white guilt?
I'm not German.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
You know, like, it doesn't make sense.
In Europe, at least.
You've lost us, haven't you?
Sorry, John's frantically scrolling to find where we are.
Right, okay.
Binary says, have you tried weighing the witch instead?
Guardian 2020.
Good point.
Honestly, someone needs to physically beat Sal's three questions into Conservative MPs.
Yeah, that's...
What were they again?
Oh, God.
I'll Google them.
Yeah, I can't...
I don't want to...
I was going to blurt out my rough memory of it, but I don't want to mangle the formulation, because they're really good.
Guitar operator says, I'm extremely worried about CRT in Scotland.
My daughter is four and white.
Tories may have banned it, but you can bet SNP will be all over it if we gain independence.
Not the most positive times to be a Scot.
Yeah, no, I don't know why you guys do all of this, to be honest.
It's crazy how progressive Scotland has become.
I'm sorry to hear it.
But yeah, if Hamza Yusuf is anything to go by, there are too many white people in Scotland.
Paul Diesel says, people don't get China culturally.
They wiped out 95% of the religions and values of Mao.
In China now, money is all-knowing God.
The West merely need to buy and corrupt them, not lure them in with free values.
Yeah, if Di Dongsheng is evidence of anything, that's exactly what seems to have happened.
But you can't be too surprised when your culture is materialist-based.
I love everyone.
It says, happy seventh day of Hanukkah.
Jewish cult for Carl.
Oh, thank you.
Read Coddling of the American Mind about how American college students became snowflakes from psych perspective.
Where's the video on Why Lotus Eaters?
Yes, I will do one on Why Lotus Eaters.
And that was Jonathan Haidt, I believe, who wrote that.
And people should read it.
Boondingo says, Afternoon chaps, do you guys know much about this parlor reverse 230 clause?
Also, you're both looking sharp today.
Keep fighting the good fight.
I'm afraid I don't know anything about the parlor reverse 230 clause.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Just a random guy says, If you use the median average on the number of arms the average person has, you get 1.98 arms.
Why is the median average taken seriously for pay?
That's a great point.
Person of the year, Svartinek.
Basketball players are taller than me.
I demand for their legs to be surgically shortened so we can be equals.
It's the only way it's going to happen.
The Earl of Longford says, the curse of Napoleon, Ghost France, Chad died with him.
Yes.
Edward of Woodstock.
Actually, Henry VI wasn't Henry VII's son.
Henry Tudor, Henry VII Tudor, defeated Richard III of Bosworth, laughs in medieval and chess color.
Fair enough.
And I probably should have checked that.
But the point is, Henry VII's son is not going to be Henry VI. Like, even if it was, the naming convention doesn't work that way.
Royal Ulster Constabulary, 23% of Catholics in Northern Ireland support the Union.
Stop the sectarianism, you unlicensed Earl.
Unrelated note, down with self-determination, might makes right.
Oof.
You know, if two people need to set up a channel and start chatting, it's Royal Auster Constabulary and I'd watch that for days.
Alexander Cross says, I've made an NPC in my D&D games based off of this show.
They're there to remind the party not to trust the elves because they really shouldn't be.
Aromatic crispy bats, so bizarre how the US election lack luster.
Well, to me, it's been a white-knuckle ride, man.
I'm terrified.
The Earl of Longford.
Meet you at the Cross, McGlenn.
Not happy to be Sinn Féin, but it's the only party willing to stand against corporate PC tolerance.
How to remove marks, though?
Well, that's a question for another time.
Zoranek says, Antifa Llama was Mike Isaacson.
That was it!
Mike Isaacson.
I actually, I didn't mind him either.
It was just weird watching these two racists having a conversation about racism.
No way.
No way.
Is that real?
No way do I believe that an Irish party support map rights.
I wouldn't put it past them.
No way.
The Catholic heritage wouldn't permit it, surely.
Well, they're Marxists.
Yes, the eunuch says, reinstate meritocratic patriarchy.
Yeah.
Rational redneck.
There is only one solution to the problem if Josh and Callum simps.
A final solution.
Only Sargon simping allowed here.
That's correct.
Although we have made a lot of money out of Hugo and Josh simping, so, you know.
Unholy says, when it comes back up...
Two-party state argument doesn't matter.
If Brexit happened because people were flocking to a new party, even if they didn't gain power, a goal was achieved.
Yeah, but it would be nice to have a party that had native British interests at heart to be generally the party in power, rather than Matt Hancock, who is unironically in favour of the Great Reset.
So, you know...
Fear the Dwarf says, Sargon, any chance you'll be back on EFAP? You massive.
Cheers and congrats on the new website.
Thank you very much.
And, yeah, any time Mauler invites me on, or Mauler and Rags invite me on, I'm more than happy to go.
Couldn't find anything with Sinn Féin map rights, so I'm going to say it's not true until it's proven otherwise.
Did you get Sol's three questions?
Yes, I did.
There it is.
Yeah, so they were, compared to what, at what cost, and what hard evidence do you have?
Honestly, the third question is actually less firm these days because of the way they create their studies and they'll be like, oh, I've got a study that shows this.
It's okay.
At what cost?
But at what cost and compared to what?
Yeah, because it's always compared to...
Women are oppressed compared to what?
It's always compared to perfection.
That's the thing.
The left is comparing everything to perfection.
But Gell Mibson says, thanks for red pilling in 2016.
You're welcome.
Douglas Grimm says, take my shekels.
Thanks for all you do.
Thank you very much, Douglas.
Mark Lukachev says, Carl, if possible, do you think it would genuinely be better for China if Taiwan slash the ROC would take over and be in charge of the CCP? Well, I mean, if the question is compared to what, and the answer is the CCP, the answer is yes.
But, right, we're going to have to go, because I believe John has to go for a dentist appointment.
But Cap says, Sagan, if you haven't, please read The Alchemist.
Profoundly beautiful story of great wisdom.
Read it to your son as he grows up.
Cheers, I will look into it.
And Binary says, solves three questions in Discord, but don't worry, we grab them.
Thank you everyone for joining us, and we will see you tomorrow, where we will be expecting the big thing that is coming, and we'll see what happens, because that's the day that the report has to be delivered, and it's not looking good, is it?
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