Dave Chapelle Slams Conservatives "Weaponizing" His Jokes | Special Guest Warren Smith
Dave Chapelle and Warren Smith dissect the controversy surrounding Chappelle's NPR interview, where he accused Republicans of weaponizing his trans jokes while ignoring genuine concerns about women's sports. The discussion critiques California Senator Scott Weiner's platform on HIV decriminalization and compares US economic metrics favorably against the UK, noting its lower GDP per capita and healthcare outcomes. Smith details how illegal immigrants access care through fraud costing $70 billion annually, state programs in over 20 states, and emergency Medicaid, totaling up to $450 billion in taxpayer costs. Finally, the episode addresses campus free speech suppression and threats against conservative figures, arguing that these issues reveal a broader agenda of silencing dissent rather than protecting safety. [Automatically generated summary]
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Stop Insiders Fighting00:03:28
Insiders fighting for insiders.
More of.
Insiders fighting for insiders.
Time to stop.
Insiders fighting for insiders.
America first.
Love the flow.
People and we must do it if we don't control insiders.
This will be over and over to lead it by an A. Big fat love, find common ground to hold the spread of lies.
And we must do it, big fat love, find common ground to hold the spread of lies.
And A. America first, America first, and non fatal.
We want to build a much better believable.
People and we must do it non fatal communication very much higher.
America first to lead by an A. Insiders fighting for insiders, time to stop.
Insiders fighting for insiders, more of.
Insiders fighting for insiders, time to stop.
Insiders fighting for insiders, America first.
Love the flow.
Everything turns out okay.
In the cash register.
Say your goodbyes to your family, Gerald.
Welcome to the lineup.
Oh, boy.
Free Speech on Campus00:02:16
Live on Rumble.
I believe, is it still 8 a.m. or 7?
I always get confused with the Central, but it goes till 7 p.m. Eastern, ending with Nick DiPaolo, funniest man alive.
You don't need to change that dial.
You don't need to change the channel, the tab, whatever it is.
We're very grateful to be killing YouTube in the live stream department.
Figuratively, a lot to get to today.
I don't know if you know this, but the UK.
Sucks, granted, but it's more poor than our poorest state by quite a wide margin.
Did you guys know that?
Because we often think, oh, stiff upper lip and is it Downtown Abbey?
What's the one that you like?
I don't.
Bridgerton.
Bridgerton.
That's what you think of.
But really, it's just like, it's just poor trailer trash with an accent.
And we'll get into the numbers because it may surprise a lot of people.
Dave Chappelle was on NPR, and I obviously think Dave Chappelle is one of the most prolific comedians alive, but But he seems to miss the mark here, and he's upset that Republicans are now making trans jokes, weaponizing it, he says.
We have some perspectives on that.
And the cost of illegal immigrant health care.
This is something the left has been trying to tell you illegal aliens don't get Medicare.
They don't get Medicare.
They don't get Medicare.
Well, we're not just talking about Medicare, we're primarily talking about Medicaid.
They absolutely do.
Illegal aliens receive many, many, many tens of, if not hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidized or free health care.
At your expense, the taxpayer.
They do it three ways.
We'll lay it out so that you'll never be caught flat footed again.
And we have a special guest.
Warren Smith is back on the show because free speech on campus is going the other way again.
Question of the day What's your favorite British food?
Trick question.
The answer is none.
with the show.
Hey, young man, what's your name?
Um, Ken.
Kenneth?
How old are you?
Self-Given Disclosure Rules00:14:55
I'm this many.
Oh, wow.
Would you like some candy?
Yeah.
Good boy.
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Let me get a couple of things right off the bat.
No, I'm not on cocaine.
If you see me doing this a lot, it's because I had to trim my beard.
And I still have, do you guys have like, after you trim, I still have remnant nose hairs, just the constant tickle all the time.
I also need to apologize to Gerald because we got into a slight disagreement.
Here's how it started it started with Gerald arguing that Transformers 3 is a great film because it sold a lot of tickets.
And it ended with me threatening to execute every member of his family with the exception of his children.
I said, that means I'm taking one of my many guns.
Bang, bang.
They're not coming back.
Say your goodbyes.
Gerald, that was out of line, and I apologize.
And also factually incorrect.
I think we had this argument 15 years ago now.
Driving back from Houston, and I demanded that you pull over the car.
I said successful.
Your crappy Santa Fe.
I said successful.
With the upholstery that was like early 90s movie theater carpet.
It was pretty bad.
I had spilled wine in the car.
It looked like something bad.
The upholstery looked like a food quartz cup.
Yeah.
It was really bad.
He's not wrong there.
I said it was successful, I didn't say it was good.
It's okay.
I love you.
I love you.
And it's not just the nose hairs talking, buddy.
It's a live show, weekdays, 11 a.m. Eastern, Friday, Saturday, April 24th and 25th at Comedy Avenue in Lawton, Oklahoma.
Not underscore Firestein.
How are you, sir?
Good, good.
I'm excited to get to Lawton.
It's the Transformers 7 of American cities.
It is.
It is.
It sells a lot of tickets.
It sells, well, not that many.
By the way, you look like a walking just for men commercial.
And I mean that as a compliment because I am just for men.
The beard is etched.
It's uniform.
The color, like mine, grows in partially red.
Yeah, I have an illegal immigrant do my hair.
Nice.
Good for you.
Perfect.
His name's Franklin.
That's not what I've expected.
No, maybe not.
But he's a grown up with braces, and I don't know if he paid for them.
No, that's an affront to God.
These are all true things.
These are all true things.
I'm just for sure not watching this, though, so don't worry.
This next thing really is true, okay?
And we do have to keep this relatively quick because we do have Warren Smith on the show.
We're glad to have him.
So, California State Senator Scott Weiner, we've talked about him.
Yes, he's the guy who's been at the Folsom Street.
Fairs.
That's the reason for the intro.
Yes, he's the guy who doesn't believe that you should have to disclose, not consent, disclose your HIV infected.
If you have children, they shouldn't watch this.
Seminal load.
He thinks it's actually stigmatizing.
He's a horrible person.
Well, now he's running for another office, and his latest ad was not only approved, but is now available to the public.
Here, deep in our fog covered habitat, we find the rarest of leaders who sticks his neck out fighting for San Franciscans with everything he's got.
Everything.
Long known as the giraffe.
Not because he's tall either.
Can we skip next?
Scott is ready on day one to stand tall in Congress for us.
I'm Scott Weiner, and I approve this message.
I like the Chinese letters.
Yeah.
And I'm not saying that this makes it right, but he looks like he was sketched in Candace Owens' notepad of who to hate.
Like, if she woke up from a dream, she'd write down and be like, hi, and you'd be like, that's Scott Wiener.
That's funny because she's got eyes like a giraffe.
What?
Odd connections.
He's known as a giraffe.
How much you want to bet that's a self given nickname?
Because I stick my neck out.
People are like, this is really self given.
It's 100% self given to stand tall in Congress.
Sure, whatever.
Okay, we'll go with that.
Long standing policies.
To be clear, this is the guy who was against ICE wearing masks, but he's fine with masks for other uses.
And to be clear, we did add him in the weird eyes wide shut thing, but that is an actual picture of him in SM gear out in public.
But hey, homosexuals, they're just like you.
The more you know, can you do that?
Oh, yeah.
Homosexuals, they're just like you.
I wasn't ready for it.
Oh, man.
Whatever's good for you, Tim.
So he's running to succeed Nancy Pelosi in Congress.
You can check the references.
To give you an idea of the kind of legislation he offered while he was a state representative, again, he really took it upon himself to make it no longer a felony to knowingly spread HIV.
Meaning, why?
You have HIV, you know it.
The strange homosexual you've picked up at a nightclub or truck stop, whichever, does not.
At one point in time, or in many states, you have to disclose it.
He fought to make sure that the person who knows they have HIV.
Don't have to disclose it.
And now that's spreading.
Yeah.
The HIV and also that policy.
Yes, that policy.
Pritzker just signed one into law in Illinois.
Yeah.
He also tried to, but this didn't make it through, as I understand it, tried to make it harder for people who have actual sex with minors to be declared as sex offenders.
And specifically, as I understand it, acts of, again, if you have children watching, they shouldn't be, but you need to know about the degeneracy, sodomy, meaning backdoor, not being as forcible, having different qualifications.
It seems like he had a selfish motivation there.
Yes.
He declared California a refuge for trans people.
The specifics on that, by the way, are it's the back door or the top door saying that they're not forcible acts and that the statute of limitations is 11 years.
It's within 11 years.
So if a kid's 13 and you're 20, you don't have to register as a sex offender for.
Because it's not forcible.
Right.
One could argue that sodomy is almost perceived as more forcible than most.
Yeah, I would.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, not if that's your only whole option.
So don't just ask yourself, what does the left do?
What would the left do?
If completely unfettered, if you had represented an entire government, House, Senate, administration of AOCs, of Bernie's, of Scott Wiener's, of Elizabeth Warren's, of Justin Trudeau's, of Starmers, understand the threat that you are facing.
Don't just observe what they do in the face of checks and balances.
Look to places like San Francisco and look at the local legislation from state representatives.
It's one of those things where people don't believe you.
I've had this conversation with apolitical women.
They go, What?
No, that must, is that fake news?
I go, No, no, no.
He actually decriminalized knowingly spreading HIV.
Yeah.
Really?
Is that?
Well, let me, what's their argument?
Their argument is that your viral load can be so low that you may not be contagious.
No, there must be more to it.
There's nothing more to it.
It's the same people that made us wear little flimsy masks to stop the deadliest virus that we'd ever seen.
Same people.
Yep.
Sick, dude.
Speaking of awful places and awful people, not everyone, but a lot, the UK.
If you guys, we just talked about the United States and the favorability index across the world.
I don't really give that much stock because most people are jealous, and you'll say that's arrogant, but I'm okay with it.
I grew up in Canada, and many of them don't like Americans because they're jealous.
So the common theme with Brits in the UK, if you've been watching any content lately, is they don't like the United States or Americans.
It's just scary.
They don't have free speech.
I agree.
I won't move there.
It's nice to look at.
You'd step over there and you already lose like 10 of the rights that you have here.
And plus, there's a lot of homeless people and everyone's high.
Yeah, the gun law is just ridiculous.
That's absolutely fing stupid how there's guns are just allowed to be normalized.
I just don't get how you can buy a gun in a shop.
No, I would never.
No, I think it's crazy.
I don't think people are necessarily dumb and I don't think it's a question of being dumb.
I think it's just that there's this idea of like, yeah, being the best to think that like people in America, depending on where you're born, you can have access to care or not.
It's frightening.
And I don't know how you can speak about Spain the best when you can't even make sure that everybody's taken care of.
I don't like the culture, whether it's tipping, guns, the thoughts on abortion.
Nah.
How can you, man, try to change the language that was invented for you by other people?
That's like me going to Spain and trying to change up the Spanish language because I want to be an individualist.
Nah, bruv.
Was that English?
They caught.
They caught.
We're the ones who invented English, isn't it?
You replace your S's with V's?
Hey, make this sound for me.
Oh, okay.
I think we've commandeered that language.
It's ours now.
And by the way, was that guy, was that last guy, was that Jelly Roll?
No, that's the British version, Jiggly Jam Biscuit.
Oh.
Or Softy.
My bad.
Hang on.
No, Softy served.
I stay frosty, my friends.
Josh can't read.
My mates.
So let me just address a few points there.
References available.
We do this every show, 11 a.m. Eastern.
If you're watching the clip, we stream live.
And you can call us Matt if we're wrong.
One person said, There's no freedom of speech.
At least about 30 people per day are arrested for offensive online messages in the UK.
We've seen numbers as high as 12,000 per year.
I know some people will argue over the metrics.
Let's call it 5,000.
And then if you look at healthcare, you can't take care of all your people depending where you were born.
The United States outperforms the UK in healthcare by pretty much every metric that matters.
For example, like five year cancer survival rates, premature infant survival rates, ER wait times, specialist access, of course, medical innovation.
That doesn't really come from the UK.
Needing to, let's say, for example, take part in preventative care.
That's not a thing in the UK.
It's not a thing in Canada.
So, yeah, they'll say those things.
They have no idea what they're talking about.
When they say, you don't have free speech, what that feminist Brit means to say is, there might be someone else speaking freely, which may offend me.
When they say, they can't take care of everyone around, what they really mean is, I'm comfortable with complacency, and my perception is that this healthcare is free, even if it's lower quality.
If you were to take a sample of people, And let's just say 100 people.
We've conducted these types of experiments many times.
And you give people a lunch that's free, and it's just a sack lunch, just let's say a ham sandwich on white bread.
And then you have other people pay for their lunch.
Those who got a free lunch, and even they may get surf and turf, the people who got a free lunch will have a higher satisfactory rate.
Did you know that?
Because they didn't pay for it.
That's the same thing with healthcare.
And that's a lot of these rankings that you see that had us right next to, I believe, Colombia and Lithuania had Cuba above us.
It's because people go, well, since I don't have to pay for it, it's free.
It's all they know.
If you have a serious disease, illness, or something maybe that would require experimental treatment, there's one factor, one facet that changes the outcomes for the better.
Are you in the United States of America?
Period.
Regardless of income level, you have a better chance of surviving it.
And here's the other thing a lot of people in the UK may not like America.
We don't care.
But they also don't have any semblance as to where they stand.
So, spoiler alert, it's not good.
But there was a new study from the Institute of Economic Affairs in London.
They asked Brits how rich they would be or how rich they thought they would be if they were a state in the US.
So, we asked people in the poll to rank where they thought the UK would come in terms of income by US states.
And we found the average response was people thought the UK was about number seven.
Not the richest state in America, but really up there, really amongst the top.
And of course, we know in a pericum.
Capacity, that's not true at all.
In fact, the UK is now 51st amongst US states.
Yeah.
And that difference actually was something that we found through one of the most powerful movers.
Telling people that information is one of the most powerful movers in terms of an emotional response.
Yeah.
51st.
GDP per capita ranks.
So the UK, about $52,600.
That'd be $51.
Mississippi would be obviously $50.
Our poorest state, still about $1,000 more, $53,000.
The state that you often think of as most poor is not West Virginia, $60,000 GDP per capita.
They're trying, though.
That is, think about that.
The UK, you guys think like, oh, they're so proper.
They are more poor on average than the poorest state we have.
So when people say they have a better lifestyle there, you know, it's just more balanced.
Yeah, it's very, and I do mean this.
It's more comparable to a trailer park in Arkansas, except they make less.
They're less productive than someone in New York.
You just see an apartment, you see a town.
That's because their old crap looks like their new crap.
They don't build new crap.
The same thing as it relates to medical innovation.
By the way, we could change one thing and make it even worse for them protect your own country in the 21st century.
Go.
That's actually a big deal going on right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is.
Them raising taxes and stuff.
Well, yeah, socialized.
Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I made it.
It's gone.
Now, how did Brits react when they heard the results?
27% were shocked.
Are you taking a fucking piss?
22% were concerned.
Yes.
Of who, embarrassed or perhaps disappointed, 15%.
But motivated for change, which would be the most productive one, 14%.
This shows you why they are where they are.
It's like, hey, would you like to put in a little extra effort, you know, and maybe not take your four weeks?
And be slightly wealthier than the poorest state of Mississippi.
You know, it will take a lot to get me up and move into that.
I'm quite comfortable, you know, being arrested for speech and having my mates die of cancer.
But of course, we can always kill ourselves through the government.
So we have a solution.
It's a bit final.
You know, it's embarrassing, but I'd have to work for it.
I'd think about it.
Global Slavery and Wages00:15:17
And here's the other thing, too.
You look at the average.
The thing that the United States, and now you have other nations, As they've moved towards more free market economies, they're more comparable.
But for a long time, they weren't.
And this was the first place where class mobility became a thing.
You guys are aware of the caste system, I'm sure.
You still see it.
Obviously, it's rampant in places like India.
You still effectively see the ripples in the UK.
In these other countries and before the United States, you were born into a class of people, you stayed there.
So if you look at this average and you go, yeah, but overall, people do.
No, no, actually, in the United States, 70% of Americans will be in the top 20% of earners for at least a year at some point in their life.
That to me is one of the most important metrics.
Yeah.
The other most important metric that no one talks about is when people say they have a higher quality of life, and they'll often use Europe.
We haven't seen this just with the UK.
They'll often point to Scandinavian countries like Sweden, Denmark.
Sure, they have a higher average quality of life in Sweden.
It's about the population of Rhode Island.
I'm exaggerating a little bit, it's entirely homogenous.
Well, guess what?
Swedes in America have a much higher standard of living than Swedes in Sweden.
Danes in the United States have a much higher standard of living than those in Denmark.
So, sure.
If you take a small country that's homogenous with the shared culture and it doesn't come with the complications of diversity they're in, yeah, on average, it'll be better.
Take those same people, that same culture, put them in a climate of freedom and class mobility, and they thrive far more.
That to me is the most telling number out there.
We make the references available.
Please go check it out.
We talked about it and it changed my minds.
It gets worse for the UK because yesterday it was also revealed that they had been overtaken in stock market valuation.
By whom?
Who do you think?
Like Spain, maybe?
Taiwan.
Oh, come on.
They have a third the population.
Ah, that's awesome.
And the UK is raising household taxes faster than any other country on earth right now, almost three times faster than France in second place, which also sucks.
Jeez.
But here's the good news not everyone in Britain, there just aren't enough of them.
Not everyone in Britain is a serf.
Not everyone in Britain is willing to give up liberty, freedom, opportunity for comfort.
Yesterday, the BBC caught up with one of these Brits.
He's a black guy, by the way, who didn't agree with the narrative, made a good case, but we did have to provide subtitles.
You're a resident of Swindon.
What do you think the council, the next council, should be focusing on?
Well, I think they should regenerate the town centre.
I think it's turned into like a bunch of flats area, and there's pure immigrants around here.
There's dangerous areas here for women and children.
I don't think it's safe.
I'm all white, I'm a bit of a boy.
Locally, I think there's people around here who are pretty scared to come into the town centre now.
I don't come in very often.
I don't bank in town.
I only come in for a guinea.
That's what I come into town centre for.
And I've got a few mad people around here.
But they need to regenerate the town centre and jobs.
Bring the wages up.
Do more for the working people, less for the people that are not working.
I've got a friend who earns £1,500 and he's not over £1,500 and he's not working.
I work and I get less than £1,900.
I'm not happy.
Steve, one unhappy voter there.
There you have it.
There you have it.
Straight from the spook's mouth.
Back to you, Tom.
Who's harder to understand?
Black guys from Great Britain or black guys from New Orleans?
Yeah.
That's a good point.
I don't know.
But if you say that guy's name in the mirror three times, he shows up.
Oh, no.
What is his name?
I have a book of beige with me.
Yeah.
It's Charlie Cook.
And by the way, this is one thing, too, he just said I agree with him on a lot.
And that's a guy, by the way, that's a guy not asking for a handout.
That's a guy saying, hey, I'm working.
And I want to be able to earn what it is that I work for.
I want to be able to earn more.
Yeah.
The problem is when people say that they need to bring up wages.
Sometimes, and I would still probably wager that he believes the government can just bring up wages.
They can't.
Has that ever worked?
The only way the government can do that, if you mean the government bring up wages, is raise minimum wage.
You've seen what's happened with that.
Automation, it's only going to be worse with AI.
The government cannot bring up your wages.
For more proof, see Barack Obama.
Average annual, or was it median average annual, or median annual salary increase per household was about $1,200.
First term of Trump was $4,000.
Biden was negative $4,400, and now we're going back up.
By doing less, by allowing you to keep more of your money and encouraging investment, there is no way in which the government can simply increase wages.
It is very easy for them to depress wages.
Exactly.
That's Marxism.
How long do you think it is before the guy goes, you know what, why am I working?
I'm only getting a few hundred extra pounds every month.
Like, do you know what that does to everybody around you?
It's that conversation times hundreds of thousands, and they're like, But I'm just not going to work.
Why would I?
This guy gets 1,500 pounds or more every month.
Let me ask you this.
Have you ever met, when you guys talk about, I know a lot of young people go, okay, boomer.
And they'll say that to anyone they disagree with, but it's not lost on me that boomers definitely have done some damage to this country because the expansion of these entitlement programs that are not sustainable.
I get that.
But have you guys ever met a boomer who's from the area, sorry, from the era of working a big job, union job, stay there, keep your head down, do the same job forever, get your pension, boom, that's it.
And they weren't that great at their job.
You know that?
Comment below.
Do you know that kind of a person?
The UK is an entire nation full of exclusively that person.
That's why they're in a managed decline.
And one of the safe havens for your hard earned dollars is gold.
Be sure to keep it locked up.
See?
Yes.
Josh, what are you doing?
Gold, Gerald?
Your gold is worth a fortune and I'm taking it.
It's like an armed robbery or something?
It is now.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, Josh.
Look, look, there's a better way, okay?
You're right.
He's right.
Hey, hey, that's not what I meant.
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No fees for life, huh?
Yeah.
I'm still taking your gold.
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Yes, and to be clear, and by the way, I only ever sign on with sponsors who understand where I'm coming from.
I am not telling you to put everything in gold, it should be a part of your diversified portfolio because I see a lot of people out there go, Gold has never been worth nothing.
Well, neither has Diet Coke.
If you buy it at a dollar and it's now worth four cents, You got piped.
So it is a good hedge in some ways.
It's a good part of a diversified portfolio, and this is the best place to do it.
But please don't allow other people to lead you one way, like they have a voice from God telling you, buy all the gold right now.
There's so many bad companies out there.
I'm actually going to address this.
Tucker did a video on this, and it's surprising because he's like, there's so many bad companies.
And he just lists all these companies.
And then he's like, that's why I'm starting my own goal.
I was like, son of a gun, after half an hour of this, I thought this was just like a super video.
And he's like, he's like pitching his old gold company.
But anyway, I think.
I think also we did have somebody in the chat give us, they gave us 50 free.
Oh, gave away 50?
Yes.
Oh, the King of Pudding.
There you go.
Thank you very much, King of Pudding.
I hope it's not black pudding.
No, come on, listen.
And we'll get you some swag.
Exactly.
Reach out to us so that we can get you some swag.
So make sure you respond so we can send that over to you.
And by the way, I think when I said the Charlie Carey, I meant the bees thing.
I meant the bee theory, not like Charlie in the end.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, because it came off as ill timed and ill advised.
Yes, and I feel bad.
Tim gave me a little.
Tasteless.
That's fine.
The bee theory is tasteless.
Yes.
And your teeth are small, so that's difficult to do.
I don't know.
He's got all baby teeth.
And thank you for people coming in, incoming right from Dan.
We appreciate it.
You guys can stay with us, of course, Rumble Premium, or you'll go on to Haley Coronia because it's all free.
This is a collective of mostly like minded people with disagreements who, hey, we're working together.
Chappelle, Dave Chappelle, he recently sat down with NPR to give an interview.
And as I understand it, I guess he rescued an NPR radio station in Ohio.
That was a story.
Now, why?
Let me set the context here.
Dave Chappelle is definitely one of the most prolific stand up comics of our generation.
You'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the industry who would tell you otherwise.
While he was sort of on as what people viewed as a crusade with his trans jokes, I remember saying, well, I think he feels compelled because they're telling him what he can't say.
But if you go back into his background a little bit, I made a whole special on Candace Owens way back then during George Floyd said some horrible things.
It's pretty clear that he leans to the left.
I think he's generally a decent person.
I think that this interview, though, it does highlight the important differences between those on the right and our views of free speech, and even those on the left who we view as sharing common ground on free speech.
We are not the same.
Our approach is not the same.
So here he is answering a question initially, and it's an interview that's worth checking out.
He gives some pretty thoughtful answers.
So this is not a dunking on Dave Chappelle because far better than most in this industry, but he was asked about performing in Saudi Arabia.
Which a lot of people thought was hypocritical.
It wasn't just him, it was people like Bill Burr.
Very few comedians have answered well.
He gave his justification and then does the pivot that he just can't help.
So, if you think of all the violence and all the things we export to the Middle East, I think our culture is the best export we got.
But I didn't feel wrong being up there.
Yeah, I know we were talking about the intelligence, U.S. intelligence did make it clear that they believe that the Saudis killed Jamal Khashoggi.
And the embassy in Turkey.
And you knew that when you went, right?
Oh, absolutely.
Now, I should tell you.
You had no qualms?
I'm going to say that.
They asked me to go years before that.
And I said no for that very reason.
Since that time, the United States government does business with the Saudis.
Netflix does business with the Saudis.
Everyone, the Saudis finance tons of movies.
All these things.
I know.
I see them financing boxing matches and all these things.
And none of these things were an issue until I went there.
Sure, they were.
Now, why is that?
As soon as a black man can make money off the plantation, they're trying to tell you that the money is dirty.
Well, okay, I'll go home and spend the money with actual slave owners on it.
Where is this clean money you're talking about?
But you said you.
Yeah, so he says go home.
I think he means.
I think he means like Washington, D.C., like with slave owners.
I don't know what it is.
The people on the money own slaves.
Oh, okay.
So, like Washington.
Right, Here's the thing if he's.
We're going to use his analogy, Saudi Arabia is an actual plantation, like they actually have slaves.
Just to be clear, it's like number four in the top 10 slave owning countries today.
They're working their way up.
Yeah, and there are more slaves on earth right now than ever in recorded history.
The low number is 40 million.
It's likely higher than 50 million.
I believe in them.
They can do it.
They can get to number one.
Yeah, they can pump those numbers up.
North Korea is a formidable foe, but they can do it.
Now, I don't have a problem with him performing there and saying, look, there are plenty of places where I perform or people for whom I perform who have abhorrent views.
But then going to the black thing and saying slavery in the United States.
Okay, they still have slaves.
Doesn't that matter?
And if it does, you probably lose your get to use the black man in America discrimination, fighting against discrimination card.
You kind of lose it because you tacitly endorsed it by performing there.
You didn't go there and speak out against the slavery.
You'll speak out against slave owners on our money here in the United States or in the past, but you were there at that moment in time where just outside, kind of Oliver Twist, they were looking in through the windows hoping to see your performance, and they couldn't because they weren't part of the royal elite or tourists.
There were slaves.
Right there, likely in that building.
Yeah.
And the white guys got crapped too.
Like, that's the whole point.
It's not like people are singling out black performers.
No, not at all.
So, what are you even talking about?
Yeah, we did a whole segment on Bill Burr talking about it.
And by the way, it has been an issue when boxing has done it.
It has been an issue.
I remember when the World Cup happened?
Yeah.
Was it Dubai?
It was an issue.
It was an issue.
Or Qatar.
It was Qatar.
That's right.
It was Qatar.
Also have slaves.
You just don't have slaves in nice white countries.
Let's just be clear about that, by the way.
Pretty much all the White countries don't have slaves.
All the ones that have them are brown, yellow, or black, to be clear.
It is the Middle East, it is Arabic nations, Asian nations, and African nations.
Let's just be as straightforward as possible.
It's not because they're black.
It's not because they're Asian.
I would say it's because they're Arabic and because a lot of these countries follow Islamic rule where they actually do have a storied history of slavery.
But slavery.
So when people talk about the evils of slavery, and rightfully so, in the United States, got it.
But they attach it to race because white and black, okay.
But we are pretty uniquely responsible for ending slavery in a very Violent way.
I know you'll say it was ended in Britain, but not the English Empire, to be clear.
And today, the only places that don't practice slavery are nice, basic bitch white countries.
You still want to say it's a.
You still want to play the racism card?
Also, in Saudi Arabia, death penalty still for things like apostasy, meaning merely leaving the religion, blasphemy against Islam.
Of course, death penalty for homosexuality.
Yeah, I mean, don't.
Okay.
They said no.
Yes, they've murdered journalists.
Yes, women were not allowed to drive until 2018.
Hey, even by the way, accidents went up though.
Yes, accidents did go up.
I think they're not wrong about everything.
No, but they do violate tons of human rights.
Of course, they still have slaves.
Even by the way, alcohol is illegal, except for this specific beverage, which makes it even worse.
Oh, let's see.
There's gold and white.
No, dude.
No.
Bruce Willis trying to make it look cool to drink wine coolers.
Weaponized Transgender Jokes00:05:06
I think it's pretty cool.
Nobody does that.
If I remembered I was in that, I'd want to mention it too.
Yippee Kai wine cooler, motherfucker.
I did that.
We just wanted to find a way to fit it in.
And we fit a lot of those things in weekdays, 11 a.m.
We stream every day.
Here's Dave Chappelle answering on the trans issues.
And this happens a lot where you have people on the right, they hear someone saying things that they like.
Hearing.
And so then they want to claim them as one of their own.
And I will say, Dave makes a good point here.
He is free to make his statements, and you do not get to apply your team jersey to him.
So I don't disagree with what he's saying, but he's misguided a little bit.
Here he is talking about how the right misused his trans jokes and explains why he went after Lauren Boebert.
And I did resent that the Republican Party ran on transgender jokes.
You know, that the.
I felt like they were doing a weaponized version of what I was doing.
I didn't, I didn't, it's not what I was doing with it.
I'll give you an example.
This is before I learned the phrase, I respectfully decline, and I was on Capitol Hill, and everybody ran up to take pictures with me from every congressional office, and I just take pictures with whoever I am.
And then here comes Lauren Boebert.
And she said, Can I get a picture?
And I'd already taken 40 pictures.
I didn't want to say no one for everybody, but I didn't know the phrase.
I respectfully declined.
So I just took the picture.
And then she posted a picture before I could even get from there to the show and said something to the effect of just two people that knew that it's just too generous.
She instantly like weaponized it or politicized it.
So I got to the arena and I lit her ass up for doing that.
And she should never do that, person like me.
Yeah, and by the way, it's just clout chasing.
I don't like that Lauren Bobert did that.
That being said, he uses the word weaponize.
Look, either the statement is accurate or it's not, and either the joke is funny or it's not.
And a lot of that, by the way, as far as whether it's funny, is subjective.
But him now said, well, what I was doing was joking, but then they weaponized it.
That's a fundamentally different view on the approach to speech because he, whether he knows it or not, he is ascribing a motive over which he may be inaccurate.
They may not be weaponizing it.
Yeah, don't do that to me.
You know, I do a joke about having hemorrhoids.
Don't take a picture of me after the show and be like, look, just two guys with bloody butts.
Don't do that.
But also, don't do it to me.
If I make it, you go, you're weaponizing it.
No, I'm using humor to make a point.
Here's the big difference, too.
I know that Dave Chappelle is a classical liberal, he's a Democrat.
He's very outspoken, he's very straightforward about that.
I welcomed seeing people like Chappelle at least address those issues when they were very, very late to the party, a day late and a dollar short, because we'd been doing this.
I'd been covering this issue for a very, very long time.
For over a decade before Dave Chappelle did.
I know that we're not on the same page ideologically, but I said, great.
At least someone else out there is starting to see it.
He and the left, their approach is, well, hold on a second.
I can say it because I know my motives are pure, but yours probably aren't.
And this will come back around to bite him in the ass again when he steps off, to use his term, he steps off the leftist plantation and he says something I disagree with.
I just think it's quite ill advised.
Even people we think that we share a lot of common ground with, we very rarely do if they're on the left.
Yeah, and it's a mischaracterization.
We didn't run on transgender jokes.
We ran on making sure that men weren't beating the crap out of women in sports and kids weren't being trans.
I don't know what part of that is the joke.
I even go further than that.
I just run on men and women are a thing and he can't change it.
Yeah, no, no.
I mean, but if he's going to specifically go to the trans issue, it's like, no, we didn't run on jokes, dude.
Like, we ran on the fact that this was impacting people in our community and we said, we really don't want to do that as a society.
Hold on really quickly.
CNN exclusive sources.
Migrant children were beaten, held in restraints, or isolation at shelter.
How much you want to bet?
Does it mean an ICE shelter?
I'm trying to figure that out.
Or just some kind of a shelter.
How much you want to bet this isn't true?
How much you want to bet it's another Abrego Garcia?
How much you want to bet it's another migrant with a suspended license?
How much you want to bet it's, oh, they're separating the children, ignoring the floor's consent policy?
How much you want to bet this is BS?
It looks like what I saw just a second ago, and I want to make sure I don't want to speak out of turn, but I think that is a shelter that they're sending people to outside of the DHS, like somebody they contract with, but I can't be 100% certain right now.
Yeah.
Why would they be restraining, isolating, and beating migrant children?
What would be the reason for that?
I don't know.
I just tend to go, no, that's probably not what's happening.
Now, do they mean teenagers who were acting out and were committing acts of violence and had to be put in solitary confinement?
For example, they say guns are the greatest threat to children, right?
The number one killer of children in the country.
Emergency Medicaid Fraud00:15:17
Well, no.
If you take out 14 to 18 year old black children who are gangbangers, it's not even close.
Pools are far more dangerous.
Big bad vaccine also.
Outlets.
Yeah.
I'm willing to bet that they're loose with the terminology as far as children, and I'm willing to bet that they're loose with the terminology as far as shelter.
In its official capacity.
I don't know.
That's just my bet.
It seems like it is an independent thing they're sending people to, and immediately when any accusation was made, they immediately pulled out all of the kids or whatever age group that they had there, and they're no longer sending them there.
So it very well could just be somebody they contract with that did things they shouldn't have done.
Yeah.
And it very well could be overblown.
We don't know.
Yeah.
All I know is that they're never transparent about anything.
They're never transparent.
They go, oh, Maryland man.
That's not transparent.
No, I know.
MS 13 member.
He's not American.
And by the way, he was already supposed to be deported.
This is the biggest, if we strive for one thing, One thing in new media, because we definitely have an issue with fake news proliferating on both the left and the right in the clickbait culture, it's expecting and demanding transparency of people who are delivering you information.
A tracking number.
You expect that with your delivery guy.
You get a receipt with any goods or services that you purchase.
The most important service, really, right now in the 21st century, the service that determines how you vote and what decisions you make, news, information.
The consumption they're in, no receipts from CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, most of these shows online.
That's why we give you the references.
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That's what I mean.
All right.
Here's the next time.
When is Warren coming on at 50?
45?
Okay.
We'll verify.
All right.
I've got to cycle through this pretty quickly then.
This is a topic that has been covered ad nauseum, but of course it's making the rounds again.
I want to put this to bed.
Illegal immigrants absolutely get free health care in this country paid for by you, including but not limited to Medicaid.
They get this three different ways, and I will lay them out for you with references so that you are never caught flat footed again with someone saying, Actually, they're not eligible, they don't get it.
Yes, they do.
Three different ways to the tune of tens or hundreds of billions of dollars that you pay for.
It doesn't matter how often the left tries to tell you otherwise.
We just had a national emergency about telling jokes.
I don't know why people are still not going to illegal immigrants.
It is, and it really does.
It's not.
It really does.
So it's in several blue states.
Scott, no, it's not.
It really does.
Listen.
The federal government, by law that we passed, does not fund health insurance for undocumented immigrants in Medicaid, period.
Wrong.
Nor the ACA, nor Medicare.
It is against the law right now for a person who is an undocumented person to come here to Medicare undocumentedly to buy their health insurance.
On the health insurance exchanges in your state or nationally.
Now, federal law clearly prohibits the expenditure of taxpayer dollars to provide health care to undocumented immigrants, period, full stop.
And no Democrat on Capitol Hill is trying to change that law.
Medicaid does not go to undocumented immigrants.
SNAP does not go to undocumented immigrants.
You know, CHIP does not go to undocumented immigrants.
It absolutely does.
I don't know.
I mean, Scott, prove me wrong.
We all know, we all know that it is federal law and federal statute that these people cannot be covered by the ACA, they cannot be covered by Medicaid, they cannot be covered by Medicare.
There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would ensure illegal immigrants.
This, too, is false.
The reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegal.
Couple things, isn't it funny?
They go, it is against the law to cross the border illegally.
Yeah.
But now they're going to.
No, but the next thing is really against the law.
Okay, I'll tell you exactly.
I'll just give you the three ways it happens.
Okay, fraud, then state funded forms of socialized health care, and emergency Medicaid.
Now go through those details.
But some people, as you see with those on the left, they just can't admit what is happening before their very own eyes.
Hey Finnegan, your shoes are on fire.
No, they're not.
Yeah, they are.
I can see the flames.
Fire's prohibited inside.
Right.
But they're still burning.
Like, how can you not see it or smell it?
I don't smell anything.
Probably because you got a pall mall in your face.
No, smoking's prohibited too.
Can I get one of those?
I always do it off the tip of yours.
There are people who just deny exactly what's taking place.
That's just what the left does.
They deny, deny, deny.
Knowingly.
The ways that illegal aliens do get socialized health care, health care funded by you, not their own pocket.
Number one fraud.
So let's go through some examples of that.
Identity theft.
There have been many consistent reports of illegal aliens stealing American identities to obtain medical benefits, and just the ones that we've caught.
We don't know the scope of it.
Falsified immigration status.
That's another form of fraud where you have illegals getting coverage.
By fraudulently attesting to satisfactory immigration status.
No proof.
Just check the box if you're legal.
Just check the box.
Here's one that blew my mind in looking into this.
So the others I was aware of and kind of going by road.
Cartel fronts.
Did you guys know this?
Cartels, and if this sounds as though it's too outlandish to be true, please check the references.
That's why we make them available.
And I believe the references here are the actual Treasury Department.
So cartels file fraudulent claims on behalf of illegal aliens, and they'll use fake clinics or they'll use corrupt doctors.
And the estimate is that it costs you, the taxpayer, $70 billion a year.
Just the cartel fraud, just the cartel fraud that is systemic, that has been verified, $70 billion a year.
I can't give you numbers for all of these because half of our government has no interest in fact checking them.
Another example of fraud you have states that fraudulently bill the federal government on behalf of non citizens.
So in 2024, the OIG found that California improperly claimed $52.7 million in federal Medicaid reimbursements on behalf of non citizens.
Again, These are just the ones that we've caught.
So they get a lot of free healthcare through fraud.
If you add that all up, let's call that minimum 70 billion, just the cartels.
Would 100 billion be reasonable?
Call it everything else, just 5 billion.
Okay, fine.
Number two, the way they get this, uh, this healthcare.
It's not Medicaid, but it is socialized state healthcare.
There are about 20 states, I think more than 20 states right now that provide some type of healthcare funding specifically for illegal aliens.
Seven states, including California, provide fully funded coverage for illegal aliens.
California, 2025, state healthcare.
For illegals, cost taxpayers $8.4 billion.
Guess who just forgot to speak English?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So just take the ones that we know, right?
Cartels, California, $8.4.
Hey, we want to apply that across the 20 states.
We're just giving you general estimates because I don't want to lie to you.
The really tough thing with any issue relating to illegal immigration is data is hard to come by.
Why?
Because they're off the books, and Democrats block any semblance.
Of collecting or procuring data because they don't want you to solve the problem.
Three, and this is a big one too that a lot of people, emergency Medicaid.
So people will say, no, they don't get any Medicaid.
You just heard her say that.
That's wrong.
I just gave you other examples fraud and state funded, but Medicaid definitely goes to illegal aliens.
Here's how it happens illegals qualify for emergency medical care under the Reagan Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act.
MTALA for short.
Now, regardless of any type of legal status, the patients have to be provided what they call stabilizing care.
Right.
So people look at that and they think, okay, well, that means, you know, they're immediately having a heart attack.
They're missing a limb.
Yeah.
That's stabilizing care typically.
Yeah.
Here's the thing, though the MTALA obligations are basically terminated once an individual is admitted for inpatient care.
So what ends up happening with that, there's no Medicaid reimbursement, but it goes to the states.
So some of these costs are displaced to the states, and some of them are displaced to the states because of The mandates through programs like Medicaid.
$3.8 billion a year is about what emergency Medicaid costs.
That's more than zero.
It's more than zero.
And by the way, there are ways around it where there are other ways to tack things on.
Most of that, if you read the language of emergency Medicaid, it pretty much is designed for illegal aliens.
You are not getting emergency Medicaid in this country by and large unless you're an illegal alien.
For example, if you go to the hospital, you skip out in the bill, and they have no information on you and they have no reason to believe you're an illegal alien.
The hospital eats the costs.
So, what you have to do, considering there's a lack of data, we've gone through fraud, we've gone through state funded programs, we've gone through emergency Medicaid, we don't have a total number.
But you have to look at case studies.
So, for example, when there was a really rapid rise in crime against Asians in the United States, well, it turns out that I believe it was the DOJ or FBI stopped recording interracial crime statistics.
They would have the victim, but not the perp.
So, you had to look at case studies.
Turns out, right, that famous study in the Bay Area, I think it was 83% of all physical assaults were black on Asian.
The stop Asian hate went away really quickly.
But that's a case study.
Same thing here.
We have a case study.
Texas, 2025.
In Texas, illegal aliens cost the taxpayer over a billion dollars.
So the ER, covered, I believe, by Medicaid, would be about $230 million.
Then you have inpatient, once that is no longer about $820 million.
$820 million.
Total about $1.05 billion.
Just the state of Texas.
Add up the cartel costs, like we talked about.
Add up what you saw in California.
Take the case study of Texas, apply it across different states.
What do you think that adds up to?
8.4 billion in California alone, 70 billion in cartels alone, a billion in Texas, adjusting for population and state rules, the healthcare cost of illegals across the United States.
If you just take the Texas study, it would be in that vein, $7 to $25 billion.
Now, are you starting to get the picture as to why illegal aliens cost you, the taxpayer, anywhere from $150 billion a year to $450 billion a year?
And the truth is, we don't know, but I would bet my life that it is very much on that top end.
If not significantly higher, considering half a trillion dollars a year also just vaporizes in fraud not related to illegal aliens, that'd be what five, six, seven Iran wars.
Yeah, every single year.
You want to solve that, guys?
Complaining about the money we spend every single year, aided and abetted.
Why aren't those people, Democrats, the left, being called betrayers?
Because they're also lying about it, saying that doesn't happen.
They said it's illegal.
We watched the montage today, it's not happening, and that's illegal.
It's already illegal.
It's already illegal.
Okay, prosecute someone.
Right.
If it's a crime, then prosecute someone.
But for some reason, they fight the regulations that would make sure not only is it illegal, but it can't be done.
Right?
That's the legislation that we see before the House.
Like, well, let's just actually tighten this up so it can't.
It's already illegal to vote that way.
Well, let's just make sure that we can confirm it with ID.
But then that would disenfranchise people.
But it's already illegal, so why would it disenfranchise people?
I can't answer that because you're a stranger.
Can we at least admit that there is rampant fraud?
And abuse, it's not even close.
I like that one.
It's good.
So, when someone says illegals can't get health care, you answer them with that.
You go, they do.
How?
Okay.
Emergency Medicaid, fraud, and then state funded programs.
Done.
Hundreds of billions of dollars every year.
The same way they got their Mercedes.
Yep.
Just answer with that.
She goes, prove me wrong, Scott.
Just answer with that.
Emergency Medicaid, fraud, state funded programs, hundreds of billions of dollars.
There you go.
You can check the references, you can strengthen your arguments, whatever.
Is easiest for you to remember to substantiate.
It's really simple.
You'll never be caught with that bullshit again.
I'll tell you who's not full of crap.
Who's not bullshit.
That's true.
As it were.
Our next guest on the show, who has been at the forefront of free speech, he's been on the show in the past.
We're happy to have him back on.
Mr. Warren Smith.
And his Rumble channel, YouTube channel is Secret Scholar Society and on XWTSSmith17.
You have to get a better handle, Warren, because that's kind of tough to plug.
You said that last time and you're right.
I'm sorry.
I'm repetitive.
Professors Fabricating Evidence00:10:49
Hey, I wanted to talk with you about this because, you know, the UPenn debate that was supposed to take place obviously fell through because they refused to allow us to live stream the debate live stream, as well as refused to allow our security to have basic safety protocols.
And the professor is going to be debating, Zimmerman, to his credit, was really upset about it.
I wanted to ask you about this because, as someone from the academic world, Were you at all surprised?
And where would you consider the state of not just freedom of speech broadly, but people speaking freely or the suppression of voices on campus?
Let's start with you, Pam.
Was it a surprise?
I wasn't surprised by that.
I had a feeling that would happen.
What was the justification that they gave you?
Did anything evolve from the last I heard?
No, they just said, you know, again, we agreed when we announced it that we would be live streaming the debate, of course.
Then when we reached out to the schools, We told them we would be live streaming the debate.
They agreed to it.
And they even had in their rider that we would be paying for the equipment and being able to line in, right?
All of this.
And then last minute, they said, no, he can't live stream.
And then they said it's a safety issue, while at the same time, for some reason, refusing to allow our security explosive sniffing dog.
So I'm confused on the safety protocol.
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
It doesn't surprise me.
Last time we spoke, I was telling you about Penn State and why it's unique what Sam Richards is doing, but he's under a lot of fire as well.
And yeah, there's a lot of fear on these campuses.
It sucks because I was really looking forward to that debate.
Well, I think we're going to do it.
I think we're going to do it.
We're just going to have to do it at a neutral private venue that we can secure.
And we'll probably just have to sell tickets at that point.
It's just become increasingly impossible to do it on campus because a big thing, too, is there's no profit motive, right?
So if you, a venue, they go, can you put butts in seats?
Okay, great.
We want to make sure we keep it safe.
On campus, they receive so much money.
In grants and subsidies, they go, oh, we don't really care.
It can just sit empty.
And so they select who is allowed to speak, which brought me to another question.
You know, we've made a lot of gains on freedom of speech.
I mean, I know you're there on Rumble and YouTube is far more lenient than it used to be.
I think a lot of people out there don't know how bad it got and how bad it can get.
It's taken for granted a little bit.
We're kind of in the eye of the hurricane as far as cancel culture.
Again, coming from academia, do you think we're seeing a new suppression effort?
Are you seeing a second wave?
Because I'm getting that sense right now.
Maybe a bit, yeah.
I haven't seen much change.
I guess it's gotten a little, it got a little bit better in the last three years.
But I think it's been about the same, honestly.
I don't think anything's really changed that much.
Now, when you said, do you mean on campus and the culture of sort of self censorship?
I mean, big tech would change, for example, you were banned if you questioned the election at all.
You were banned if you said, hey, maybe not the best idea to give the vaccine to children.
They undid that.
But I guess in relating to academia, the culture of self censorship and people being afraid to speak out, is that what you mean?
Hasn't changed?
It's still kind of heavy?
Well, I think it comes down to the interests of the colleges.
Like you said, what interest do they have in allowing you to have the event?
So, when I was at Emerson as a grad student, I made money working as the videographer, the dean.
So, I would be recording videos for all the speakers that came.
And this was 2016, right around the election.
And they would bring in conservative speakers.
But even I did not see a single conservative speaker that was not, I'm conservative, but I'm anti Trump.
Right.
That was the frame of it.
Like, not a single one.
And I recorded almost all of them, working as just this one man band that would go and record, edit it, turn it around.
That's just the climate at the colleges that I've seen.
That's why what Sam Richards is doing stands out so much, but there is still a fear from the administration because to them, that's why it's so shocking what he's doing because to them, they view it as a liability.
Like, why would we allow this?
There's nothing in it for us.
That's how they view it.
I disagree.
I think it would change the way people view your college.
It would change the way people view your classes if you were bold.
There's a real hunger for this.
That's why I think there was so much excitement around your debate.
And I've been so excited about it because people want to see the professors do it.
That's why Sam Richards is blowing up.
That's why you can have someone like someone call themselves a professor.
Like Professor Jang is not a professor, but he's exploded because he capitalized on this format.
It looks like he's in a classroom.
And whether he is or not, that's another conversation.
But it looks like that with the whiteboard.
And that just Boom, blew up.
You could even say, to some extent, that's why my initial video kind of went viral because it was in a classroom.
And people have asked me, why?
Why do people want to watch Sam Mastery?
That is like, why do you think this works?
It's like, because this is where the conversations are supposed to be happening with the people that are supposed to be having them.
And there is this culture of like, it's not happening.
So when it does peak through, there's all this excitement.
But that's why, because the colleges just don't, they don't need to.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
And it's on that sort of note, my whole point was to show everyone out there that you don't need to be a professor.
Some of these professors are wrong and don't know what they're talking about.
I'm not, you know, I'm a college dropout.
Hey, he could mop the floor with me.
Who knows?
I think Zimmerman's a pretty respectful guy.
I think it would be productive overall.
But this is always what we were aiming to do.
And I've talked about, I never learned about Stalin.
In school, ever.
It was a footnote.
I said, How did that happen?
Right?
You go back and you go, How did I not learn about this?
And you start putting the pieces together.
I did want to ask you, too.
You recently put out a video regarding is it Constantine Kissen and the death threats toward him?
Could you kind of run people through that who may not be familiar with it?
Because it ties into this, too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I was just on YouTube one day and I stumbled on a small streamer creator who was reacting to his debate with Destiny.
And he was just, he was talking about, he was in the crowd watching this a few feet away.
He was talking about how he made eye contact over and over with Constantine and how he felt like that was distracting him during the debate and he was trying to distract him.
But he was talking about how he should have brought box cutters and started mimicking shooting and what he was talking about what he learned from the Charlie Kirk assassination and how in the future, if you're going to take people out like our opponents, these are his words, then you need to do it in a way that.
Removes sympathy and removes the public platform.
He's making the argument like we have learned from what happened with Charlie Kirk.
This is how it should happen next.
So I just made a video about it.
Be like, well, that's crazy.
And this guy was sitting right there the whole time.
And I recently sat down with Constantine.
The video hasn't come out, but I was asking about that.
I was like, I hope that didn't alarm you too much.
He played it really cool.
He's like, I have good security.
He just kind of shook it off.
But it is crazy to me.
It's actually.
It is the rule, not the exception.
Now, I don't mean the rule that all liberals, but I mean it is the rule that if you are a notable public figure who leans right, who is conservative, the rule is you need to have serious security.
And the rule is you are constantly dealing with threats to varying degrees of legitimacy.
And I wanted to ask you because you spend more time in some of these streams.
And the reason I don't is because I've been trying to go to the top, right?
Professors.
It's like I've been doing this for a long time.
So it's like, okay, well, what else do I have to do?
Hey, let's try and finally get PhD professors.
That's, you know, That's my white whale.
But you spend more time at least watching, commenting on these streams.
How prevalent are the threats of violence in these left wing sort of IRL streams, for lack of a better word?
On Destiny's stream, I see it a lot.
Yeah.
And so that guy, I think he would be considered himself in that community because there's a Discord community with Destiny and it's very active.
Like the Discord server is huge.
If you go on it, I mean, when Destiny's not on, you have 500, over 100 people in different rooms debating.
And so I see it a lot on there.
I made a video about Destiny's recent comments talking about fabricating evidence to lock up opponents.
I believe he was recently demonetized because I think this language went a bit too far.
So he's probably just.
What was he?
For people who don't know, he was actually sort of instructing people on how to fabricate evidence to damn political opponents?
On this video that I'm referring to that I made, it was a conversation with his lead moderator on Discord.
I was just describing.
Okay.
His lead moderator called in on one of his live streams, and this became a video they put out.
Trying to warn against what he's hearing.
He's like, This is getting crazy.
These threats, it doesn't sound like a joke to me.
And I'm genuinely concerned.
But when I try and talk about it, I get shut down.
And this is his lead moderator being like, This could really backfire.
Yeah.
So Destiny turns it into a debate, becomes a back and forth.
But I just found that fascinating.
Like, wow, you have the moderator he trusts the most trying to warn him on the patterns he is seeing on the server and being like, this is, we could have a shooter come out of this community.
And Destiny's like, oh, yeah, obviously I don't want that.
It would be bad for public perception and whatnot.
Yeah.
So it's definitely that.
What's the part about fabricating, like you said, like evidence?
Oh, he was, this was a separate, I'm sorry, this was a separate conversation.
And they were talking about it's, it's, It's technically not illegal what Trump is doing.
So we can't, there's nothing we can get them for.
So it's okay to just make it up by any means necessary.
Everything's on the table, it's all justified.
And again, I think he was having a debate with someone and they're like, Yeah, but if they're breaking the law, we should have evidence we can point to.
And Destiny's argument is, Yeah, but technically it's not illegal.
Right.
So he's making the case for lying, which I just found interesting.
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When I see a dynamic like that, that's when I turn it into a video.
Yeah.
So, people can go look at it if they're curious.
Yeah.
We'll have the link up.
Yeah, this is something that we know, again, to the left.
The left does.
I mean, and then they had a lot of cover under the Me Too era, and that's why they use these broad terms like racism, misogyny.
I thought it was pretty funny that Professor Zimmerman, in really excoriating you, Penn, for what they did, he said, You just, you gave Crowder this, you gave him the high ground.
He has a valid point now, but he still had to do the whole like, and I think he says horrible things.
And he cited that about five years ago, I referred to a reporter as, quote, aggressively Asian.
And I'm like, it's just weird that he pulls up.
And it was.
It was as simple as I was just watching.
It was this reporter.
And she's like, the weather is cold.
And she had like a geisha outfit on.
And I was like, that is aggressively Asian.
She does not usually look like.
You know who wasn't that upset?
The Asian reporter.
But it's just funny.
I'm like, oh.
Brian Shapiro just debated me on that same comment.
Well, Crowder said something about an aggressive Asian face.
And so I went through this whole thing with him.
So that's funny.
It's like, I stand by it.
It was needlessly aggressively Asian.
She was dressed like it was an Asian cultural fair.
And we compared her to most.
It was just like, yeah, she was going for a gimmick.
It's fine.
You know, there's Asians, there's American Asians, and then there's aggressively Asian.
I think it's rooftop Koreans.
Yeah, exactly right.
They all, they're just like you could say aggressively white.
Yeah, that is it.
You're definitely allowed to say that.
You say that to everyone in the room.
Any bald guy with a goatee.
Yeah, or at a Dave Matthews concert.
Yes.
Those are aggressively white people.
Hey, I do want to, we went a little bit over time, so I do want to continue with you here on Mug Club.
Tell people, though, where they can find you and these videos before we continue and send everyone on to Haley Coronia.