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🔴 Is the Sig Sauer P320 Killing People & Trump Wins the Trade War: Guest Brandon Herrera
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Who cares?
It's the deadline of Trump's golden age.
The trade deals, the tariffs, and South Korea came to the table.
So that's pretty fun.
And we just can't stop winning.
So we're going to be talking about that and also have Brandon Herrera on the show.
I guess you say gun expert, gun specialist, huge channel because SIG P320 and going through these expensive, lengthy military trials to become the official pistol of the army is allegedly going off and shooting people.
And there's some controversy around that.
But the handling thereafter from SIG taking a steaming dump on you, the American customer base, doesn't seem to be going all that well.
And remember that Cincinnati PD chief saying that the gang beating from the pack of blacks on the defenseless white, there are two sides.
Well, we did some digging.
We found some other opinions from this police chief and whether you should have the right to carry a firearm.
Hint, not all cops are your friends.
So let me ask you this today, different theme.
What's your everyday carry?
If you don't carry a firearm, it could be your pocket knife.
It could be your flashlight.
It could be whatever.
And if you do, what's your everyday carry as far as a firearm?
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We all treat Gerald badly because he's 6'10 and he can handle it.
I receive it all the time.
We have a full house today.
By the way, just so I don't have to play with Brandon Rivera on, I will be doing some demonstrations here just so you can all see.
We've checked this many times, everyone in the studio.
Oh, there you go.
Nothing in here because I'll be.
Thanks.
Oh no.
Whatever you say, Alec.
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Okay.
Just making sure everyone can see.
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You're going to have to point it at Gerald.
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Every time he tests me.
I don't point it at the one that counts.
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I wish people could see.
People could see because there was an ad that went out that included the old lineup that didn't include Nick DiPaolo.
And he was like, hey, why am I not an A?
And then he just saw this before the show.
He goes, like, oh, look, I'm back in the ad.
I said, you've always been the ad.
He goes, no, no.
I said, this is ours.
He goes, I mean the one that counts.
As I was saying it, I knew it was wrong, but I keep telling you.
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I did it.
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Sorry that this doesn't matter.
I always thought it counted.
Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know.
It's all right.
I mean, it gets the job done.
Let's see.
What do we have?
We have that.
We have Pack O Blacks.
How else can we just destroy the program?
All right, I know.
Before we get to the Golden Day trade deadline, I'm trying to think, how can we kill momentum more effectively?
Oh, WNBA.
So here you go.
You know, they throw things out in the field of the ice.
For some reason with the red wings, they throw an octopus, which I never really fully understood.
I could explain.
I know that you can, but it's more fun if I don't know.
It's like, hey, red wings.
Okay, red wings.
What do we have there?
Detroit.
It's the motor city.
Let's have an octopus.
Was Ringo Star their marketer?
Yeah.
What are they going to throw used tampons on the ice?
Just throw their gas if they don't want to be collected in.
That's a red wing.
But there's a new thing being thrown on to the field of play.
Thus enters the WNBA.
Hayes gets blocked by Maya Callwell.
Something flies on the court, actually, from the crowd.
The officials will say they will continue playing.
Zero.
Nice shot.
Nice shot.
She almost made it.
That's one point.
And you can see the object.
The block right there.
It changes scoring.
The object comes.
They green forward.
There's the object that was thrown.
Well, that looks floppy.
Her shot was more embarrassing than the object.
I like how they all don't know what it is.
For those of you guys who can see, it is in fact a green.
I haven't picked up yet.
Dallas.
And the police officer is...
Yes.
Just the sight of a fake dick.
Inappropriate.
Listen.
Get him out of here.
She's bringing it to the evidence bin, and that's how she refers to her muff.
We all mean.
Just think about it.
The least likely to be a lesbian on that court is the female cop.
She looks stacked, though.
She's built, dude.
Who?
The cop?
Did you see how big she was?
Okay, with your virtues.
Oh, yeah, she used to play for the Lions.
No, what I'm saying is she's probably coveting that.
No, she used to outrun actual lions.
I didn't know Michelle Obama falled a dubbed up.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
She's still a lesbian, Stephen.
Don't worry.
She moonlights.
So everyone was wondering where the, just so you know, the sex toy had come from.
Apparently, Marge.
And this next bit, look, it's not quite there yet.
I'm just letting you know.
Everyone was wondering where it was coming from.
Our undercover unit found out.
So for the Valkyries to actually play through that, I was shocked.
Jordan Canada did know something flew on the floor.
This definitely should have been a scrapyard.
I still don't know how we got there.
Yes, really one is.
Why are you looking at me?
What is really like?
What happens is we'll be like, yeah, how about this one?
We'll come up with something and then Johnny Boy will be the carrier pigeon and take it over the edit bay and then we'll see something that has nothing to do.
We're like, why is Shrek flatulating a sex toy?
Boy, my original idea was sad.
It's like Shrek's appendage had been cut off.
And I was like, well, maybe it was cut off and he left it there and he's apologizing.
There's probably a scene where he farts and apologizes.
And then that turned into Shrek farts on a toy.
You started when He farted his penis off?
Okay, guys, guys.
I wish I wasn't.
I told you this is the show that matters.
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That might be what happened.
It's three cans deep.
This is going to stop.
Need more energy.
Shrek.
Steven, what's a Valkyrie?
Anybody know?
Valkyrie?
That's an awful Tom Cruise film.
It wasn't awful.
What was the name of the team?
Is it?
One of the teams.
Valkyrie is one of the WNBA teams in that clip was the Valkyrie.
It's Viking lore.
Yeah, it's like Viking lore, but they're like Warrior Angels.
I'm sorry, Warrior Angels.
I didn't know that.
Wait, it was female warriors.
Yes.
That's right.
I didn't remember that.
These are warrior angels.
Oh, okay.
I guess that makes sense.
And I'm sure the Vikings had that WNBA team in mind.
Yeah, what about that team says Viking?
Did they eat a lot of push?
Also, you can never know about it.
You're not going to be able to get them on a boat in water.
All right.
Rose weaves.
But how do I swim, we know.
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Let's go on to this.
Do you guys remember?
So we covered this.
Remember the gang beating?
And we asked you, and many of you had some responses, some of which were acceptable, as to why when you see these beatings and you see them, you know, world star hip-hop and what happened in Cincinnati, this group of entirely black people just beating up on a lone white person.
They claim he said the N-word.
Okay, we covered this story.
It was pretty controversial, but there was the Cincinnati PD chief.
It was Teresa Thigi, I think is how I'm pronouncing it.
We presented you this clip last week.
Here's a refresher.
And then we did some digging.
And the chief's views on other pivotal issues that you would hope your local PD would be in alignment with you.
Well, turns out that's not the case.
And see if you can guess.
But first, here's what we presented to you.
I think, was it Monday?
I don't know.
You saw this clip.
Social media and journalism.
Hi, Dave.
And the role it plays in this incident.
And yes, guys, that's you.
Yes.
That is you.
Oh, no.
Why?
Social media, the post that we've seen, does not depict the entire incident.
That is one version of what occurred.
At times, social media and mainstream media and their commentaries are a misrepresentation of the circumstances surrounding any given event.
Because what happens, that social media post and your coverage of it distorts the content of what actually happened.
Now, here's the thing.
She never assisted in providing any type of content or context that would make that acceptable at all.
And so we felt like that kind of tipped her hand a little bit.
You know, you see an old berating lady who's a police chief saying, you need to hear both sides to understand this gang beating.
I had a suspicion that she probably leans left and probably would really readily break down your door and do the bidding of the government.
You know, we all learned about those kinds of people during COVID, so we did some digging.
Oh, no.
Turns out, old nosy white lady going to old nosy white lady.
It's time for claim truth.
So she.
I thought you were going to say it turns out she has mixed kids.
That's what it is.
She was running cover for her.
You think somebody's going to bang that?
Don't say that word.
They'll get fat.
I don't know.
People have fetishes for all kinds of weird stuff.
Really Shemp Howard?
Her real name is probably not a Mother Teresa.
Now put on this jacket and go.
She's walking around in a circle on the floor.
First claim.
She showed up here at a, I believe it's a town hall, this police chief.
And you think, okay, police officers, it's their job to ensure the protection of your rights.
First Amendment, Second Amendment, that's why they exist.
Unfortunately, she expressed some views here where, well, whenever you hear it start with, I'm pro-Second Amendment, but only we should have guns is usually where it goes.
Watch her.
I support the people's right to bear arms.
Good.
However, when you have parameters around that, part of that, the advantage of having those parameters is ensuring the officer's safety when they're dealing with somebody with a firearm, when they are carrying it legally.
When we had the permit carry, part of that requirement was an individual had to go through training to be able to get a permit.
There was requirements where if they encountered an officer, say at a traffic stop, they had to tell an officer that they were a permitted firearm possession.
And those things have now been taken away.
So now we have people who are even sometimes legally carrying firearms with no training.
And now they do not have to tell an officer that they are carrying a firearm.
So now the officer's mindset shifts from being on the offense quite often before they know what they're dealing with.
Sounds to me like that's a problem with your officer training.
So here's the truth.
You know, they went to basically permitless carry, where you have the right to carry a firearm because it's your God-given right in the United States in the state of Ohio.
She is complaining about that.
I thought, hey, maybe there are a lot of specific examples, police officers who are running into problems or skyrocketing gun crime.
No.
As a matter of fact, since carryless, or sorry, since permitless carry was enacted there in I believe 2022, six of eight major cities in Ohio have seen a decrease in gun crime.
The only outliers are Dayton and Cincinnati.
Oh, sounds like a U problem.
So, since more people began carrying firearms without the training, which we'll get to, without the need for a permit, gun crime has gone down, except for your municipality and your solution is to undo what's led to less gun crime.
I know correlation doesn't equal causation, but she's making that assertion there.
Also, check all of the references.
Six out of eight major cities, Ohio, decrease in gun crime, just not your city in Dayton.
Cleveland got it right and they didn't?
Where Bone Thugs and Harmony came from?
Are you serious?
Think about that.
So you really have to be on, this is why we don't unilaterally just back the blue.
There are good cops, there are bad cops.
And unfortunately, sometimes chiefs end up effectively being de facto appointed by the mayor, which we'll get to.
And they seem to be in alignment.
You have many mayors of major cities in this country who want to disarm you.
This goes to the next claim.
She talks about them not having training.
And this is just a tired trope.
And you get it from the films, right?
You watch whatever it is, The Born Identity, or you watch any mission.
Oh, those people there who work in government, in our agencies, in our local PD, they really know their way around guns.
It couldn't be further from the truth, but she makes that claim.
These people don't have training, and so that's why they shouldn't have guns, unlike our cops.
We train our officers consistently to handle their firearms in the most prudent manner and to ensure that if they have to use that, that they hit their targets.
What we're seeing now, because nobody has to go through training, even in a self-defense type of a situation, they do not have training on using that firearm.
I do not have confidence that that leads any citizen to hit their target if they are put in a position where they feel like they have to defend their life and discharge their weapon.
Good news is that your opinions don't matter, but Officer Blobfish doesn't think that your rights matter.
So, yeah, it is strikingly similar.
LAUGHTER LAUGHTER I honestly don't know which one's which.
And here's the thing they go, unlike our officers, do you guys know, do you guys know how often police officers train with their firms?
Here's the truth.
The most, I should say, the best study conducted methodologically, do I have that right?
Methodologically?
I don't think so.
I don't think I have it right at all.
Again, the concussion.
The best study that we have conducted as far as the sample size methodology.
There you go.
There you go.
Concussion.
Medieval times blame them.
So the truth is that officers train on average, on average, this is across the country.
This is just an average.
One to two times a year with their firearms.
Less than 15 hours annually.
And by the way, the studies that they've conducted show that police academy graduates are actually effectively no better than novices.
And here's another truth.
Let's look specifically at Ohio.
These people don't have the training of our officers, and I don't have confidence in them.
Okay, do you know what the requirements are in Ohio?
25 rounds to be fired at varying distances from 40 to 50 feet.
25 rounds.
In many police departments, they only have to qualify once a year, maybe twice a year.
Do you realize, I'm pretty sure that most people here in this street have fired more than that, probably about 10 times that in their last range session?
I don't think you guys realize how woefully inept police training is with firearms.
25 rounds, in some cases, 50 per year?
That's a box.
That's a box of ammo.
And she uses that.
And you'll see people on the left, they're not trained like police officers.
Okay, all right.
I train with 100 rounds.
So twice that of the average officer.
No, you don't need any excuse.
You don't need any justification, any rationalization to exercise your Second Amendment right.
And then when you look at the context, which she actually omits, it gets worse.
You, if you carry a firearm, are very likely more trained than most police officers.
50 rounds a year?
That's insane.
Think about that.
I don't think you should.
I don't trust you to be trained.
Only cops should have guns.
Yeah, I saw that part in the Second Amendment where it said, after qualified through training, whatever, to have a gun.
No, come on.
You can have a gun.
I get it.
You want people to be trained.
That's fine.
But how about you guys not like maybe overinflate what you do?
I think it was 13% more accurate.
Right.
Novices versus people who had gone through the police academy.
Yeah.
13%?
Yeah.
It's not really helping me feel safer.
No, they can't just say we want to take your guns.
So they go, well, you don't need this kind of a gun.
They go, well, you're not trained.
Okay, so then you would have to say that no police officer should have guns because they're not trained.
Yeah.
Like any of this matters when a guy pulls a gun on a cop.
Right.
Whether he has a permit or not.
Right.
None of that shit matters.
I know.
It all goes out the window.
What is she talking about?
I know.
They're just mad they can't have an excuse to search the vehicle.
Yeah, no, that's a good point.
She's like, they're supposed to tell us if they have a permit or not.
Oh, is that what criminals do?
Yeah.
Those are the ones we're talking about.
Seriously, yeah.
And then another take.
Do we know her sexuality?
I know you're going to think it's irrelevant, but.
No, no, I think it's very relevant.
Why are you interested?
Yeah, I'd like to hit her up tonight, Boo.
For seven shakes Barbie's.
An aquatic fetish.
No, because I have this theory, and I've been saying it since about 1988.
They put these gay women, whether they're judges or they're police commissioners.
Can I ask you a question?
Who in a society has more conflict with their worldview than gay women?
You get my point?
Yes, I do.
They don't see the world the way we see it.
No.
And they never will.
And she's going to lean with whoever she thinks the marginalized group is.
They can't be objective.
No.
That goes for another segment of the population.
Well, that actually ties into her comments.
Make a lot of sense when you look at the mayor, who effectively is in charge of, I think, establishing the city council, which establishes a city manager who chooses a police chief.
Basically, you have to do the bidding of said mayor.
And this mayor of Cincinnati is Aftab Pirval.
Can you talk about the increasingly difficult task of policing, given the state legislature's decisions to doing away with concealed carry licenses so now anyone can openly carry?
You know, what I see as a civilian observing is if everyone has a gun, including our children, it makes policing very, very challenging because identifying the threats is increasingly hard.
So a couple of things there.
This mayor deliberately conflates, you know, a permit to conceal carry versus now everyone can openly carry.
Those are two different sets of laws, just to be clear: open carry versus concealed carry, and many states treat them differently.
You have some states where you have concealed carry with or without a permit where you can't open carry.
You have some states where you can open carry, but you can't conceal carry.
You have some states where you can do both or you can't do both.
So, he conflates the two and then, of course, goes, what a, and children have guns.
I have to process the bullshittery that's going on right now.
No one is saying that children should be driving their power wheels with Uzis, okay?
So she does, he throws that out there, and then she goes, yeah, that's right, and you need training.
This is part of a worldview.
And I'm going to tell you, you can never divorce these kinds of talking points from the corrosive worldview of leftism, progressivism, globalism, because globalism, leftism, seeks to destroy everything that you want to conserve, namely your fundamental God-given rights.
So here's a coincidence.
Maybe this same mayor, well, maybe there's a reason that he's pushing this in Cincinnati because what he would like to see for the world, we have this footage, remember, undercover at South by Southwest?
It's the same mayor.
It is not just three words, diversity, equity, inclusion.
It's not just policies.
It is the very ethos of the city of Cincinnati.
Okay.
So imagine if that guy had power completely unfettered and could effectively install those in charge of enforcing it.
You know, police people, let's say he was president, could do so with the military.
Well, hold on a second.
If I want to establish a global order, a national order of DEI, of leftist policies, what do I have to do away with first?
Well, like every fascist, like every dictator, take away your firearms.
How do I do that?
I don't just tell you, I say, you need training.
I say, well, hold on a second, you shouldn't be able to open, carry, conceal, carry.
I say, think of the children.
This is all the same old tired playbook.
So just don't give them an inch.
People used to be like, well, I think, yeah, maybe you need training.
No.
No.
Either the Second Amendment exists to protect your right to own a firearm.
You legally purchase a firearm.
You should be able to carry it.
Period.
That's it.
Give them zero wiggle room.
Comment below if that's where you'll end up.
I'd love to see constitutional carry, but if not, I'd love to see more states say.
You can legally buy a firearm.
That means you go through the criminal background check.
Do with it what you will.
Be responsible.
That's it.
I'm not a huge fan of the slippery slope argument as a whole, but it does present one.
Like if you have to have one certification, then you have to have another certification.
What happens if they go, oh, well, not only have you trained with it, but you also have to be proficient.
You have to score this many.
You have to do a marksmanship test.
Yeah.
You have to have your grouping in a certain circle.
You know, it's like, whoa, now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, when you take into account that so many defensive shootings, they occur at three yards or less, three shots or less, three seconds or less.
Let's say it's five yards.
Like, you need to be proficient with your pistol at 200 yards.
What?
Why?
What for?
Right.
I just want to kill someone on the stage.
I just want to stop someone from gang beating me in your city.
When I got to Savannah the second, third day, I went by a handgun.
Yeah.
And so I buy the gun, and while I'm talking to the guy, he says, yeah, he goes, the chances of 99% of these, 95% of these encounters are like three feet or six feet or less.
And then about two minutes later, he goes, so do you want to sign up for the gun course?
I go, no, I can hit something from three.
I did.
I wasn't even trying to be funny.
No, right.
And he laughed.
But I'm like, well, I honestly, and it's going to sound another one of my theories, but gun training, it's just a little overrated.
Don't point the gun at something you're not going to kill.
Keep it down here when you're loading it.
It's like four rules.
Yeah, but there are dummies out there.
There are dummies out there.
There are real dummies.
Yeah, those are called criminals.
Yes, yes.
A certain persuasion.
And in some cases, police officers.
Let's be honest.
Not all, but some.
We'll get to the SIG story in a little bit.
But it's a good idea for you to train and to be as accustomed with your weapon as possible.
But this idea that you have to be training all the time and doing tactical shooting, I want as many of you carrying a firearm as possible who know how to use it.
And you know what I mean to a serviceable degree.
If you fire more than one box of ammo per year, you're doing better than your local PD in most states.
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Hello?
Todd?
Todd.
I wish it was Todd.
Yeah.
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We want to move on to the golden, because I know we have Brandon Herrera coming on.
Yeah, we're good.
All right.
The golden age deadline.
We've talked about this quite a bit.
We rated Donald Trump's economic policy on trade.
It was above an A. It was an S because no one saw this coming.
Well, I should say this.
No one saw a president like him coming, honestly, in the year 2014 and 2015.
And the conversation of trade deals and tariffs being used to generate revenue and to also modify behavior internationally was just something that hadn't been tried in our lifetime.
And now, contrary to what the leftists said, where it was going to be a calamity, we were going to see a recession.
It's been working out really well as far as all economic indicators.
And today specifically marks the final day for Countries to strike a deal with the United States.
And President Trump is not backing down in case you thought he was.
He posted this on Truth Social.
He said, The August 1st deadline is the August 1st deadline.
It stands strong, so strong, and will not be extended.
A big day for America.
Put three exclamations on there.
So here's the thing.
Even after when we look at the results, and this is in a very short period of time, an additional $50 billion in collected revenue, CNN is still really, really mad because they predicted the disaster.
Now, you'd think they'd be happy because this is good for you, the American.
No, no, they just have to move the goalposts.
I would just like to go, but I'd like to build a DeLorean and go back to April when everybody here was predicting likely to cause a recession.
Investment stops and a recession happens.
They're not talking about a U.S. recession.
They're talking about a global recession.
Lead to recession.
Watch her move the goalposts.
A recession.
So Scott, hold on, so very angry.
Very disorderly.
Just a second.
You called the recession.
Columnity, Scott.
Calamity.
Scott, you can't speak.
Collams here.
And there is.
What were those tariff levels?
They were different.
They were.
Oh, hold on.
They're not just different.
They were two to three times higher than the current tariff levels.
Did those tariffs go into place, Scott?
It's different for every current.
Scott, it did.
It's a simple question.
Did those tariffs go into place?
God help me.
He has delayed some of the tariffs.
Yes or no?
He has delayed some of the tariffs.
And he has implemented others.
Any of the tariff levels that Trump announced on that week, did they ever go into place?
Some tariffs have been implemented, some have been delayed, and some deals have been done.
The answer is they did not.
Okay, but that's not the point.
The point is at that exact moment, first off, tariffs on every country are higher, or this is the first time ever that they've had to face them since President Trump has taken office, to be clear.
And the tariffs that we're seeing on United States goods have been reduced to zero in many cases.
And just to be clear, she tries to move those gold posts, and she goes, are they that number?
We told you, read the art of the deal.
We know what this guy does.
He's going to come in high and then settle at something, which is significantly better than nothing.
Now they move the gold posts and go, well, it's not the exact tariff that he first announced.
He said they could negotiate a deal.
Absolutely.
And by the way, didn't we just call this?
Yeah, I think we all saw this coming, right?
Come let Zoltar tell you more.
I congratulate the next pitch ball right past the flagpole.
We're going to win the game, I guarantee you.
This is a negotiation that is taking place.
If you've read Art of the Deal, you know he wants to come in high.
wants to come in hot and we'll probably settle somewhere in the middle.
Come let Zotar tell you more.
I can't tell it's the next pitch ball right past the flag.
We're going to win the game.
I guarantee you.
It's so great being nimble and independent.
Somehow that escaped all of the experts on CNN.
Come on, you recorded that this morning.
Yeah, exactly.
We verbatim.
We recorded it before they made their predictions in April.
That was March.
That was March.
By the way, let me be clear.
I'm not a financial expert.
But neither are they.
Neither are they.
They tell you they are.
I'm just someone who read his book.
I was like, oh, okay, Make Left.
You know, like every negotiation, they can't be wrong and their predictions, their very hopeful predictions, by the way, are always bad for you, the American people.
How does that happen?
They should take some credit for convincing the entire world that that was going to be the final tariff number.
Right.
And they were like, oh, shit.
Yeah, we should negotiate.
Oh, we should negotiate if we want to get a better rate.
Yes.
Were you about to say something, Nick?
No, I wasn't.
Oh, I thought you were.
I'm sorry.
I hate business talk.
Okay.
Well, this isn't going to get that much more fun then.
Sorry, Nick.
So I'm kidding.
He went crazy, President Trump, in a good way.
You know, like crazy sale, like you see at your local car lot, striking some last-minute deals.
And some of the updates, because some of these have happened since we last spoke with you.
South Korea, last night, President Trump announced that we finally have a trade deal with Solar and South Korea.
So the deal is going to have 15% on Korean goods.
That's significant.
0% on U.S. goods.
So by the way, think about it.
That's not even reciprocal.
I know.
That's right.
You guys pay a tariff, and we don't.
Here's the other kicker.
They also agreed to $350 billion in investments, future investments, to the United States to be directed by President Trump.
So $350 billion, $100 billion in LNG purchases.
Korea is going to be granted most favored nation status.
Nice.
They're finally going to be open to U.S. products, autos, beef.
Sorry, I guess rice is not allowed, which makes sense, and maybe some autos, but some autos are allowed as far as I...
And I guess, I don't know, some agricultural products will somehow be an exception.
Rice and beef are off-limits.
Rice and beef are off-limits.
I don't know what's going on.
They can get our cars.
Yeah.
I got all my steak from Korea.
Yes, exactly.
He's a big Bulgogi guy.
He is.
I love Bulgogi.
I do love Bulgogi, too.
But think about that.
Is that a real word?
15%.
0%.
And then another $350 billion investment.
Just to be clear, this only happens.
This only happens if they know they've been screwing you.
Yeah.
Right.
This happens where they sit down with advisors and go, okay, what kind of leverage do we have here?
And they go, well, you know what?
You have this tariff on them.
And okay, what do the United States have on us?
Pretty much nothing.
All right.
So what would be fair?
They're like, well, you know, reciprocal would still actually not, because you still kind of owe quite a bit.
So, yeah, he actually is very likely to implement this.
I would strike a deal now so you get something fair because he kind of been piping them.
That's the conversation they had to go, oh, okay, and 350 billion more.
Well, yeah, that's racist.
Yeah.
Nice.
But that's why the woman from the European Union, I like what she said.
She's like, we have to balance.
We've been hosing the United States.
She came right out and said it.
We've been hosing them, and this is fair now.
Yeah, no, exactly right.
At least, I think that's where she said, and you were very hard on us, but we appreciate it.
Oh, yes.
Well, listen, I think we allowed our countries.
Let's just be clear.
Some malicious countries out there try to screw us over on deals.
Canada, other countries, we just allow them to have a better deal than they should have.
They want access to our markets.
So we need to leverage that.
And we just haven't done that.
Trump's been calling us out since the 80s.
I know.
Literally, he's on Oprah going, they're ripping us off.
It's like the left on this issue, they can't think about CNN.
It's like a cartoon where they're trying to catch Donald Trump and he just jets off and there's only a Trump-shaped cloud where he used to be.
He said, no, reciprocal tariffs.
Well, we said, and then, wait, you mean we have a tariff on them, but that's not even reciprocal.
How the hell did this happen?
Abby Phillips is Elmer Fudd.
People are still, well, so, okay, good for you.
Good Korea.
Now some Koreans can have fun cruising around in American cars, maybe.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's different here.
It takes a guy teaching his daughter to drink.
Yeah.
I think most people would have no idea how to drive a full-size SUV.
Hit the blank.
It must be a spaceship.
Hit the blank, emergency blake.
So let's contrast that.
Thank you, Korea.
Thank you, Vietnam.
Thank you, Thailand.
Thank you, EU.
Thank you, UK.
Sorry, India.
Oh, yeah, Japan is a big one.
Sorry, India.
So President Trump just took a steaming corn-infested one on India last night with a 25% tariff.
He said, I don't care what India does with Russia.
They can take their dead economies down together for all I say.
God bless them.
We have done very little business with India.
Their tariffs are too high.
Among the highest in the world.
Smells like poop.
He didn't say that.
No.
Likewise, Russia and the USA do almost no business together.
Let's keep it that way and tell Medvedev, the failed former president of Russia, who thinks he still is president, to watch his words.
He's entering very dangerous territory, Medvedev.
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
Now, just to give you an idea, he's right.
In 2024, the total United States trade with, if you were to treat India and Russia as one nation combined, about $133 billion.
That's $65 billion less than South Korea alone.
So South Korea is more meaningful.
And he's basically saying, you two take your dog crap economies, take your ball, and go screw yourselves.
There you go.
There you go, India.
There you go, Russia.
And again, that's another lever as far as this war.
You don't just fight wars with tanks and with bombs.
We all know that.
Tariffs.
Yep, that's a big part of it.
Free store to gas.
Yes, yes, sometimes.
Do you have to train for use a tariff?
Yeah, exactly.
That's a good thing.
Like our police force does, like our Beigebook economists do here on Wall Street.
Yeah, well, you guys screwed everything up.
Let's let someone else have a shot at it.
Brazil, the authoritarian fascist nation of Brazil right now where freedom doesn't exist.
And we have a lot of good friends there in Brazil who are being politically persecuted.
President Trump hit Brazil with a 50% tariff.
And the reason?
He said, well, the persecution of Bolsonaro, which we've seen, you know, the former leader there, and the censoring of American voices also in Brazil, you know, they banned Rumble.
That's a good example.
So he's using this as leverage to say, yeah, we're actually not, and this has a ripple effect.
This means that big tech companies can't do the bidding of or be acquiescent to fascist governments if it affects American citizens.
Right?
This is another way to apply pressure.
Check all the references.
They're available.
Link in the description.
Canada.
Finally, again, my kind of, I have tools.
I was born in the United States, but since my mom is French Canadian, I automatically was granted some kind of citizenship.
I'm still figuring out how to, I've already revoked it on air.
I renounce.
I defect.
But I don't know how to do it officially because it's a horrible place.
I take zero pride in what Canada is.
I know what you have to do.
You've got to burn a Canadian shirt and film it.
Okay.
I'll do that at least.
And you'll be.
All right.
I'll burn all.
I'll burn all of it.
Or Maple Leafs.
Maple Leafs.
All of it.
All of it.
Do it all.
All of it.
Because Canada is awful, and Canada has been afforded the right to exist as a nation for far too long.
And I mean that.
I mean that they are a national security threat in many ways.
So this morning, President Trump finally addressed them.
He said, wow, Canada has just announced that it is backing statehood for Palestine.
That will make it very hard for us to make a trade deal with them.
Oh, Canada.
Hit the mip, mip, mirror.
I don't have it.
Well, when the president wants it, yeah.
I mean.
I don't have it, sir.
Sad trauma.
By the way, Canada's negotiations with Hamas have already begun, and it seems they're going swimmingly.
There you go.
Let me give you two things really quickly.
First off, the Palestine issue should not be connected to any trade deals for the United States.
I'm sorry.
I understand leverage.
I understand that.
No, what's good for America is good for America.
I don't care.
I don't want to tie Israel-Palestine to what's good for American citizens on a trade deal necessarily.
But I love the fact that he's like, oh, Canada.
I love the way he handles it.
Maybe it's just him negotiating a little bit more.
I'm fine with that.
But ultimately, it shouldn't be the thing that sticks it.
It should be the thing, but I think we should only be engaging in trade with allies, and that means people aligned with our values.
And there's a lot of difference of opinion.
I get it.
I get it.
I understand it.
And I don't want it to be.
It's just another feather in people's cap that say Israel controls our government.
Like, oh, okay.
Israel's telling us to do this.
That's true.
I understand that.
I understand the complaint.
I get it.
Mexico, there was a new deal announced with Mexico, sort of.
I think it's a 90-day extension of the current deal with some additional things going on in there right now.
It's really long.
I don't know that we necessarily need to read that all out.
Maybe they can just give us a briefing and we can do that.
I think he called callers like, hey, Shinebaum, how do you feel about Canada and Palestine?
Oh, you're Mexican?
Click.
Yeah, okay.
Well, that's good.
Look, this is all negotiations, and we've had, let me ask you this, genuine question.
If we're just going to look, take off your conservative hat, take off your team jersey for a sake.
Let's just look at this objectively.
Where would former Vice President Joe Biden or former Vice President Kamala Harris, where would they have ever, ever, objectively gained the experience to negotiate these kinds of deals?
No.
or know what is even before them.
The truth is none.
None whatsoever.
Nowhere else would you have someone in that position if you believe that international trade negotiations are significant, if you believe they are consequential, nowhere else would you have someone with that complete lack of experience in that position?
And we've been told, right, Donald Trump can't be president because he has no political experience.
Okay.
Does he have negotiating experience?
Does he have experience in dealing with trade?
Does he have experience in understanding how to navigate relationships with people who would be allies?
Does he understand how to deal with competitors?
All of this is relevant.
Sitting and voting yay or nay or present, in my opinion, doesn't apply.
And you're seeing the results.
Think about this.
When you add up South Korea with everything we have, that means that the total investment into the United States from other nations is over $11 trillion.
Now, could it be better?
Okay, sure.
I think that's pretty good.
But the economist said recession.
So we're not comparing $11 trillion to $40 trillion.
We're comparing $11 trillion to losing money and a recession.
And they still can't admit it or accept it.
Why?
Why don't the people in media want what's good for you?
And people across the world right now, countries, they've acted in good faith, they've gotten good deals.
If you've acted like an asshat, Canada, you're going to get a crappy deal.
China, I'd be paying attention.
I'd be paying attention.
So you have that said, Horror, but you don't have that.
I see how it does.
I think they're definitely paying attention with deals coming from Japan and South Korea.
Oh, yeah, they're getting deals.
And Vietnam, because all the manufacturing in Vietnam, electronics that come from Korea, Japan.
Yep, Singapore.
They want to get their vehicles here.
Yeah.
Oh, South Korea, I guarantee you, they were nervous.
Like, no, we can't have another disaster after Galaxy Fold.
Yeah, I bet that puts a little bit of pressure because Apple's, they make their phones in China, don't they?
They make a lot of their phones in China, they're projected to the majority coming from India, I think, the next five years.
So India needs to step up.
Your safety didn't work either.
Oops.
Apple.
You said Kamala Harris wouldn't know any of this.
Yeah.
I can't think of a Republican that would.
No.
Nope.
Maybe Doug Bergam's work.
Maybe Bergham.
Maybe Bergham.
But he's a weak.
Dr. Transylvania.
Yes.
Vampire.
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Let's go on to this.
And this is something that is sort of lighting the internet ablaze.
It's not necessarily inherently political, but there is something here that we need to take a look at.
And I will say this.
Sometimes people on the right are pandered to in a similar way that those on the left are.
And what I'm talking about is sometimes the vet bros.
And what I'm talking about is sometimes the back the blue.
And you have people who go, no matter what the issue is, military good, military right.
Now, I support a strong military, and I support a military force that can break stuff and kill people when needed.
But we've also sort of seen this cloak kind of, it's been removed with our intelligence agencies.
You probably used to think that the FBI were the good guys.
A lot of people did.
We now know that that's not the case.
It's often not the case with police officers, and it's often not the case with firearms companies out there and how the military handles it therein.
So this is a big sort of the SIG P320, also known as the M18, which is the official pistol of the Army right now.
It was launched in 2014.
Very, very popular.
Civilians, law enforcement.
Let me just set this up.
SIG spent millions lobbying for the military pistol contract, okay?
Where there were trials and there were a bunch of other guns.
And SIG won the contract.
It was in 2017.
A 10-year contract worth $580 million.
$580 million.
And I just want to be clear because a lot of people have gone out and purchased this before we get to the alleged accidental discharges, before we get to the alleged safety issues here.
Pistols are almost never used in war, just to be clear.
And the idea where people go, it's mil-spec, they'll then market to you.
Mil spec just means the bare minimum.
I mean, Josh, you have experience with that.
Mil spec doesn't mean, oh yeah, this is the best.
Yeah, yeah.
If I was going to use mil-spec, you know, communications technology wouldn't be better than Apple or something like that.
Same thing with firearm.
I mean, it's just, yeah, most people don't use pistols anyways.
I mean, a lot of guys I knew it's a secondary weapon, first of all, on everybody, except like an MP or something like that on a base.
Right.
But most people prefer, you know, knife or a shotgun or something like that.
Yeah.
I didn't carry a pistol.
The only reason I ever carried a pistol was if I was on a base overseas, like in Afghanistan, and I needed a weapon to go to like the PX or the cafeteria.
Yeah.
Like if they're going to yell at me if I don't have a gun, so I better put this thing in my hip.
Yeah.
And unfortunately, as is often the case with the military, they don't necessarily pick the best tool for the job.
You automatically, sometimes it has to do with who lobbies the most effectively, who has pre-existing relationships that should be taken into consideration.
For the longest time, we had the Beretta.
The M9 was the Beretta 9mm.
And that is not a very fancy gun.
Well, the same tolerances that allowed it to be, what they claim, more reliable, also allowed a lot of sand and dirt in.
So when you're fighting in the desert, it becomes a problem.
And then they had trials, and they have these criteria, for example, has to have a manual safety.
That's silly.
Now, I get it's because you have a lot of people in the military who don't know how to handle guns, right?
Lowest common denominator.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a lowest common denominator.
People don't assume that.
They just think military, they know what they're doing.
So many people don't use their weapons.
They're like they work, you know, they're a clerk or they're a cook or no offense to these people, but they're a mechanic or something like that.
And they're not using their weapons on a regular basis.
Then you're like, oh, shit, just hit the fan.
Here's your gun.
Oh, does it have a safety?
And in trying to achieve this sort of safety to prevent user error, right?
A negligent discharge, it seems right now that at the very least, this handgun, SIG, maybe Isn't as effective as far as implementing mechanical safety.
So, for example, like the Walters that we have or Glocks, they have a trigger safety, they don't have a manual safety, but it also makes it much less likely for this to simply discharge on its own.
If you're banking on the manual safety because you think people can't operate this properly, you're basically prioritizing the wrong thing.
So, I would say that's an argument to be made.
And if you're out purchasing a firearm, you should take this into consideration.
So, now there's a lot of controversy surrounding this pistol because allegedly, someone in our armed forces had this gun in a holster on a table, didn't touch it, and it went off and killed one of our boys.
All right?
But this has been going on for quite a while as a controversy.
And something to keep in mind is this is a masterclass in how to not deal with your customer base, namely Second Amendment advocates.
So it's back, I think it goes back as far as I have it here, 2017.
Videos were emerging of this pistol, the SIG P320.
Which way they got the contract.
Yes.
Yeah, they call it the M18 in the military because they're slightly different, but yes.
This pistol failing drop tests thanks to the internet because people conducted them themselves.
We found in our testing that the P320 will fire if it is dropped at a certain angle.
This angle is not found in any of the previously mentioned drop tests.
If the pistol is allowed to drop with the bore in an upward direction and the frame and the slide contact the ground at the same time, the trigger continues to move to the rear and the pistol will fire.
What?
Now, I know people will say, well, that's not a reason for the drop.
They don't do the drop test that way because that could be inertia on the trigger.
But again, you have plenty of other similar pistols, meaning striker-fired pistols, that wouldn't fail that test.
So why are we prioritizing these certain parameters?
That's the question that should be asked here.
After that, let me give you a timeline.
2017, the Dallas PD pulled the P320 from their service.
A bunch of law enforcement agencies beginning in 2018 started polling them while they were still being used, the military variant, by our men and sometimes women fighting for this country abroad.
And we decided to, because we could go on for hours here.
There are a lot of claims.
A lot of claims are false.
We're only including in this montage the clips where you actually see the moment that the weapon discharges and it seems as though no one is touching it or operating it incorrectly.
This is what has raised some eyebrows.
So see this one right here.
Look at where his hands are.
That's in a holster.
Boom.
Whoa.
Goes off.
Get another angle.
Boom.
Right there.
Whoa.
Goes off.
Started walking down the back lot towards the cruiser that I was going to take.
And as I'm walking to the cruiser, I heard a loud bang.
And I felt a searing hot pain in my right thigh.
I was scared.
I was very scared because I thought someone had shot at me.
In December of last year, Hobart Lawrence police officer Sam Schrader was part of a chase.
His body camera captured his Sig Sauer P320 firing when he got out of his vehicle.
Yeah!
Are you up here?
No!
Are you up here?
Yeah, really?
Deal with me.
I need a tourniquet.
Body camera footage shows Milwaukee police officers trying to arrest someone.
It was July 14th, 2020.
Stop resisting, sir.
The Milwaukee Police Association says Officer Robert Park's Sigsauer P320 fired without pulling the trigger.
Yeah.
So, just to be clear, and I understand, like, Glock had a bunch of lawsuits against them early on when police department switched them.
They said, oh, these are just accidental discharges.
Well, and that doesn't mean that it's true.
It wasn't necessarily true.
A huge portion of them were police in the NYPD who were using revolvers.
And unfortunately, many of them would run with their fingers on, they'd run their fingers on the trigger of the revolver, which is not advised, but safer if it's a 13, 14-pound pole.
You do that with a Glock, all of a sudden, bang, accidental discharge.
Also, you have to pull the trigger on the Glock at that point in time to disassemble it, and people weren't used to it.
So I understand the case to be made.
I also understand that a lot of claims come forward when people just are handling the gun improperly.
That doesn't seem to be the case in those videos.
Then you add on top of that.
In 2020, ICE reported that they were dealing with some discharges.
Then there were some more lawsuits coming out since then.
Here's what SIG has done.
They have simply said, nope, it is completely safe.
There is no truth to any of this.
And the only people criticizing us are doing so for profit.
They even put out a website, p320truth.com, to make their case to the public.
Now, this brings us to just recently, active duty airman was killed earlier this month when, from what we know, P320 in the holster, on the table, went off, shot him in the chest.
So there's going to be an investigation.
To be clear, this is alleged.
This has been going on for a while now.
But the response from Sigan, we're going to bring on Brandon Herrera to discuss this because he's an expert in this area.
I noticed this.
Yes, because I am signed up to their newsletter.
Their first, I guess this was their statement.
Notice how the wording changed.
They said, the P320 cannot, under any circumstances, discharge without a trigger pull.
That is a fact.
Okay, if that's true, got it.
Then the gun is safe.
But then their email sent on Tuesday, I noticed a word change and many people out there did too.
And I think it's important to do this because obviously we know that government can avoid accountability and private companies tend, tend to be more correctable than the government because of the free market.
But they get it wrong sometimes, especially if they feel enabled by the government.
And SIG has taken the approach, may we remind you that we have this giant $500 million military contract.
Yeah, but that doesn't affect the safety of the gun.
So they went to trigger pull newest email.
The P320 cannot, under any circumstances, discharge without the trigger first being moved to the rear.
Trigger pull versus moved to the rear.
That seems like a very conscious choice of language.
And let me tell you why.
And again, I showed you this earlier, completely unloaded, but for all you safety Sally's out there, this right here.
When you measure a trigger pull, I guess I'll have to do it with my left hand.
If you read any reviews on firearms, they will say the measured trigger pull.
So they'll tell you the measured trigger pull breaks at somewhere eight pounds, nine pounds, five pounds.
So they will take a gauge and they'll pull it, and that's a trigger pull.
You guys hear that?
Okay, so that is the term that is used.
That means a trigger pull.
That's how they measure trigger pulls.
Trigger moved to the rear.
Look, I could do this all day.
You can see the cylinder moving and not pull the trigger.
So this is not a problem.
It goes bang when I do this.
But when the trigger moves to the rear, does it go bang when I do this?
Does it go bang when I do this?
This is different from this.
And they changed those words and people noticed it consciously.
They went on to say the allegations against the P320 are nothing more than individuals seeking to profit or avoid personal responsibility.
Yeah, crap on your consumer base.
Let's see how that works.
It is one of the safest, most advanced pistols in the world, meeting and exceeding all industry safety standards.
Its design has been thoroughly tested and validated by the U.S. military, mind you, and law enforcement agencies, mind you, at the federal, state, and local levels.
Yeah, I don't think that you realize that doesn't mean what you think it means anymore, SIG.
Plus, those people are reporting issues.
Yes, exactly.
Same people you're using as an example of testing it or going, hey, yeah, yeah, we tested these, but whoops.
And just to be clear, when they say only for profit, we have no issue with SIG.
I even gifted a SIG rifle to Tim Poole in 2020, for those of you who remember.
We obviously wanted to send our sponsor, Walther, but I don't even know if they have anything compliant with New Jersey.
And handguns are a lot harder to get in New Jersey.
Long guns are a little bit different.
So we will be sending you, now courtesy of SIG, I have to say this legally, but we will be the ones sending you actually a brand new SIG Sauer M400 Tread.
It's a sporting semi-auto rifle in the AR-15 family or platform.
Again, it's from me.
Compliments of SIG because we told them about your scenario.
They're actually going to, we're going to send it directly to your FFL and they will immediately make the adjustments needed to make it New Jersey compliant, which typically means shear.
So.
But why aren't you dressed like Fabia?
I thought it was Cultural Appropriation Viking Day or something like that.
And to be clear, I want to give the anti-gun lobby, the anti-Second Amendment advocates, I want to give them no excuse.
I want to give them no quarter.
And that's why this is a discussion that needs to take place, especially if they're hiding behind the military, if they're hiding behind law enforcement, and there is something here.
Because you have people on the left, just to be clear, I mean, they're still arguing about things that don't even exist, like ghost guns.
So granted, sometimes, Toolman, we know that can be a problem.
Toolman, the end.
It's not dangerous, it's just off-putting.
Here to discuss this and more is one of the most popular firearms channels on YouTube.
The AK Guy on X. You know him.
You love him.
Brandon Herrera.
Mr. Herrera, how are you, sir?
Can you see me, hear me?
Yes, sir.
How's it going, brother?
How you doing?
I'm doing well, thanks.
And I know that I'm just a ham and egger, so no matter what I say, people say you don't know anything.
So I said, let's bring on the guy who folks actually respect and kind of looks like Andrei Arlovsky.
That's a compliment.
Let me ask you this.
What's your take on this right now?
Because I know that these are allegations, but this is one of those issues that it seems to be like there's something here, in my opinion.
It's definitely an allegation.
It's just an allegation that just has tons of documentation and empirical evidence behind it.
It's something that we've known this for years.
It's been a meme in the gun community that the P320 Fails drop safety tests.
We've known it forever, but it seems like in the last year to the last maybe nine months, it's moved beyond drop safety.
And now we have guns that are just going off in holsters, which is a completely different ballpark.
You know, it's one thing to say, like, oh, hey, don't drop it at this angle.
Okay, it's not great.
Probably should have been caught in the trials.
That's not a good thing.
But when you have cops on video repeatedly that have, you know, any jostling action of a weapon that is in the holster, the trigger is untouched, and the gun's just going off, that is what I would call a problem.
Yes, yes.
So now, let me ask you this.
How did this gun make it through the trials and how was it chosen?
Because if you look at the trials, there were a bunch of guns with a longer track record.
I mean, the Glock 19 was in there.
I'm trying to, I believe the Smith Wesson, one of their shields was in there.
the guns that haven't had this problem.
You think military, people think efficiency, mil-spec.
How did this make it through, considering this has been known by so many others, or at least suspected?
For sure.
Well, there's a couple of different ways that could happen, but one of them, the one that I think is the most obvious...
right out the gate, is that the military testing, they've got certain parameters that they test for, and they try to test every handgun to the same standard.
Those include drop safety tests, but they'll include, you know, hey, it needs to survive X many drops from this angle.
And if you're not testing the problem angle, then you're not going to see the problematic result.
And so if this particular gun has an Achilles heel that can't be found by the testing that all the pistols were subjected to, you'd never know it in the trials.
You wouldn't find that out until a couple of YouTubers start fucking with it.
Yeah, but the drop issue, right?
The drop testing has been known since 2017, but that's not the only issue right now.
So this is after, and I know you know this, but for those who are unfamiliar watching, it was a Michigan State Troopers P320 went off.
The FBI conducted this investigation, and not all of it was redacted.
So SIG, sometimes I believe, has pointed to this as proof that, see, it's safe, but actually in that report, they said that an uncommanded discharge is possible if sear engagement is lost.
And by the way, disabling the striker safety lock through movement and friction could warrant further investigation.
And this is something in there, too.
It says a brand new unfired SIG Sauer M18 pistol, which is the military equivalent of 320, was obtained from MSP to determine if the test could be repeated on another weapon.
On the first attempt, the striker safety lock successfully prevented the striker from impacting the primed case.
However, on the second attempt, the primed case fired, indicating the striker safety lock failed to stop the striker's forward movement.
Am I reading that right?
That seems pretty cut and dry.
There are strikes on the primer, and it's at least, best case scenario, remarkably inconsistent, and this has been known.
100%.
And I've talked to SIG engineers, former SIG engineers, and they know about it.
Like, this is a thing that the company would never admit, but they've known this as a problem for a while.
And you can see that with the way that they act publicly, because they did the voluntary upgrade program, where they basically said, our triggers have no problem.
There is no issue.
You're crazy.
You're acting just like your mother.
You love being gaslit.
Baby, come on.
Yes.
But if you think that there is an issue, which there's not, you could send it into us voluntarily and we'll fix the issue that doesn't exist.
Right.
You're like, okay, well, that.
That seems like, allegedly, it sounds like a lie.
That is what one would think that sounds like.
Yeah, yeah.
I just want to make sure I'm just, I'm no firearms expert.
But also, I don't believe that companies are very keen to provide expensive upgrades for free for a problem that doesn't exist.
Right.
And, you know, it's the thing that drives me crazy, because this has been just a really bad week to be a SIG defender, is that there's just so much evidence.
There's so much documentation.
I mean, there's the lawsuits that have come out that they've tried to say, oh, these are just people that are trying to make a buck.
One of them included a police officer, a female police officer who shot herself on accident with no fault of her own, didn't pull the trigger, nothing like that.
Gun goes off in her holster, shoots herself in the femur, shatter.
And they said that she's an anti-gun grifter now, apparently.
You have ICE that has released a report that basically they were talking about all the accidental discharges that have happened with all of their service weapons.
And you have multiple columns.
One of them is which pistol it was, vast majority were the P320s.
And then in the other column, whether or not that incident included injury.
So they not only said that these things were going off, but there were multiple occasions where they were injuring people that were actively working for ICE.
So it's just, it's crazy to see this amount of data and be able to say with a straight face, well, clearly there's no problem.
Right.
And I will say this for people who don't necessarily know out there, and I know that you know this, there is a difference between firearms companies that focus on selling directly to consumer and some companies that focus on obtaining those giant military contracts.
They are not often the same path.
Do you think that this same world exists if SIG doesn't have a $500-plus million dollar military contract where they effectively crap on their customer base?
No, and I think that could be part of, and this is just speculation on my part, but that could be part of it where if they admit there is a problem with the civilian side stuff, then they have to maybe go in and revert and do a very expensive upgrade, do all their military contract.
But that's starting to bleed over, apparently, into both, where now it's this problem, which hopefully, and I've mentioned this before, but hopefully this is a big enough deal with this airman unfortunately losing his life that Sig can no longer look the other way and pretend there isn't a problem.
Now there's an investigation.
Now there might be a little bit of accountability.
And they're starting to backtrack accordingly, at least until they release that email that you so poetically mentioned earlier.
Trigger moving to the rear, Brandon.
It's not public.
They didn't publicly say that on social media because they knew they'd get hanged for it.
They sent it to all of their newsletter guys, their guys on the inside, who immediately shared it.
It wasn't hard for me to get the scoop.
I just signed up.
They're like, for the guys who are going to defend us.
Let me just tell you one more time.
There isn't a problem.
Yeah.
It didn't work out.
Yeah.
And they were like, well, no, they're trying to do the wordplay.
Look, we all know what trigger pull means, right?
You do gun reviews.
You go, okay, and the trigger pull is a crisp 6.2 pounds, you know, whatever it is.
We're not just going, oh, yeah, what it takes to move the trigger.
We know what a trigger pull is.
That's different from moving to the rear.
We've gone a little bit late, so I know I do want to continue on with a premium.
We'll get you this interview, of course, for all your channels.
But where's the best place for people watching right now to find you and watch your coverage of this?
So I just did a video on this one.
It's over on YouTube, over on my channel, Brandon Herrera.
It's about the recent SIG drama, but you could also go back in a couple of months and see some of the other videos I did covering this exact thing because this has been going on for quite some time.
And some of us have been just shouting from the rooftops: hey, this gun has a problem and it's going to kill somebody.
And then, unfortunately, here we are, and SIG is continuing to deny it.
I know.
And I want to discuss this with you because I know you know, and it's a very incestuous place, the gun industry.
A lot of people out there are blissfully unaware that firearms companies, and I'm not saying this necessarily about SIG, are not Necessarily the same people as Second Amendment activists.
As a matter of fact, there have been many instances of firearms companies turning their proverbial firearm against the people who buy their products and support them.
And that includes companies, for example, like Smith Wesson, Once Upon a Time, some controversy with Springfield, Bill Ruger.
So I want to get into that because what really bothers me is people being led by the nose and taken advantage of when they're going out and using their purchasing power in good faith.
And I think that's pretty important.
So if you could stick around with us right now, we have to tell the folks here to go to Rumble Premium.
And by the way, Mission Control, get us side by side of Mr. Herrera.
Oh, him and Andre Orlovsky?
Yes.
Can you send it to him?
Look at that.
Come on.
Yes.
Come on.
I am heavy with champion of the world.
My mouth guard has fangs.
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