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June 5, 2025 - Louder with Crowder
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Elon Musk Loses His Mind on Trump & Dave Portnoy Rages over Jewish Jokes
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Welcome, of course, Bongino Army, now coming in from Vince, which comes from Vincente in Latin.
All the romance languages are based in Latin, and it translates roughly to, don't be a smartass, Tim.
What'd I do?
When I ask you what the intro is, you tell me what the, you don't try and do my job.
He was trying to write jokes for me.
Oh, come on, Tim.
You almost used it, come on.
You tell that dirty guinea he just made my list of things to do today.
All right.
We have a lot to get we have AG right now, but according to the polls, by like 100 points, going to be senator.
So that'll be fun.
We're going to be discussing today, and with, hopefully, Ken Paxton, the big, beautiful bill debate, and why Elon is doing what Elon do, and where you line up.
I know that everyone is discussing this.
He's been on a tear on Twitter.
Also, Dave Portnoy from Barstool Sports.
Who's made his brand off of controversy and everything is acceptable to joke about.
Has made one glaring exception, the Jews.
Pretty upset about it.
And President Trump has racked up some pretty good wins lately.
No more folks from Somalia or Sudan.
That's fun.
And on with the show.
Just conditioning.
But ship, is it ship?
It's ship shanking.
Shanking.
Calvin, can I watch some video now?
The humor, that's just...
Yeah, you can watch TV.
We have one in the bedroom, don't we?
Go on over there, watch yourself some TV.
he's stopping you Why didn't you sign up for Starlink when I told you to?
After the hurricane hit Carolina, Elon was giving it out for free.
I told you to get Starlink.
That's right.
It's a hard process.
Everything to you is a f***ing hard process.
You f***ing opened the back of our boombox.
That's why it has instructions saying not to eat the packing material.
Why can't you read, Josephine?
Follow the instructions as they are written.
It's not that hard to set up Starlink.
I'm not asking you to go to f***ing space, am I?
Elon's already done the hard work.
Plus that f*** you married to Amazon, fella.
What was that?
Shut the f*** up!
I would hope to see you.
I would hope to see you.
Glad to be with you.
It's a family show.
Yeah.
Don't deprive the audience.
No, we were just sitting there.
Well, what it was is before we get ready, we kind of all sit here.
Okay, we dance.
We get into it.
And now I realize people complain.
And by the way, we have Ken Paxton on the show.
We complain about twerking.
And then I realize, you know, watching West Side Story, like this is just, look at my titties.
That's it.
Yeah, some of us aren't complaining.
No, I'm not complaining, but it's not even suggested.
It is suggestive, depending on the show.
No, it's blatant.
Oh, I see, I see.
It's more.
It's obvious.
Yeah, like Jack Benny was suggestive.
Like Marilyn Monroe would say something like, oh, was that big?
Or something like TV.
And he'd go, better find out.
You know, something like that.
But this!
It's not suggestive.
That's shaking my memories.
You're going to mess up the bars.
Be careful.
It's just my point is not everything was as innocent as we thought.
Oh, no.
Of course it wasn't.
Remember back in the day before OnlyFans when we used to shake our tits?
Chest side story.
You're like, it's a chest side story.
Wonderful time in America.
All right.
And rape.
Whoa!
That's a bad thing.
We're going to reset.
All right.
Hey, let me ask you this.
Where are you lining up in the big, beautiful bill debate?
It's a live show, weekdays, 11 a.m.
Comment.
There you go, Toolman.
If you weren't so busy being a smart aleck, you'd know that I asked them to comment.
Yes.
I thought BBB was big black booties.
Come on now.
Oh, jeez.
Come on.
I do one cha-cha, and everyone thinks you have full, you have license to go full NC-17.
CEO, Captain Morgan, I don't care.
Wednesday, July 9th.
That's Funny Bone Comedy Club Hartford.
We have a hard in and out with Ken Paxton, so I'm rushing it.
Hartford, Connecticut, Funny Bone Comedy Club, Wednesday, July 9th.
Josh Firestein.
Hello.
Thank you for the plug.
What is it, Stephen Portnoy over here?
Whoa!
I love how he's the one who says, like, he just said the word rape.
In a bad way.
Yeah, but there's no joke.
Rape is bad.
You just used a verb of a serious felony that scars people for life.
That's not a joke.
It is bad.
You have to learn to craft a joke.
You can't just say rape.
Yeah, there's got to be a setup, you know, and a punchline.
Yeah.
Sometimes an act out.
Rape is bad.
Perfect.
Okay.
And by the way, he has it on the brain because we have an old clip of Dave Portnoy who made a rape joke but can't take a Jew joke.
All right.
Let's get to the first story.
You're going to see this video.
This guy lives.
Okay?
No, no, no, no.
He's injured, but he's alive.
Sometimes you guys get mad.
He's not in critical condition.
He should be.
I think he is!
He's just going off the rails.
Sorry.
I'll tell you what was in critical condition was Noodles yesterday on the toilet while we made jokes about him on the toilet and he was watching from the toilet.
Sorry.
Oh no, I borrowed his phone after that.
You're next.
It's been flagged.
That's why I got pink guy.
Alright, guys.
This guy lives, okay?
So it's okay.
We play by real TV rules.
That's all that matters.
It's important that you Also, you read the fine print with insurance because they're not going to cover this, especially if you decide that on the job site you want to have a nice smoky poo.
Lit cigarette in his mouth.
Pretty cool guy.
It's Milk Truck, right?
Oh!
Oh!
What's up?
What's up?
Is somebody saying watch out?
A little late.
I just ate a flamethrower.
Watch out!
There are bodies flying.
Arms may leave the field of play.
So the worker was smoking while cleaning a tanker trailer at a Turkish plant that makes sunflower oil.
He is alive.
And like Justin, it looked really cool.
It did.
It did.
He looked really cool.
I'm not on board with the free Luigi people, just to be clear.
But I also understand that insurance companies can try and scam you and they can try and deny claims.
But on this one, I would side with the insurance company.
It's kind of a shame that he did live because it's going to be hard to out-cool that.
That incident.
He's going to have a boring death someday.
He's going to tell his kid.
He's going to be like, oh, what?
You joined a gang and you're dealing?
Hey, do you know what?
Your dad used to smoke three packs a day and then I was flying.
There's going to be some kids who are like, no, sorry, I can't have a cigarette.
My dad died smoking.
Did the world's first standing triple backflip.
Nice.
Yeah.
Cigarettes killed my dad.
Hope you got a Neuralink.
Well, maybe they can sue Marlboro.
Just remember, guys, well, he's a new Marlboro man.
He's alive.
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We are bad people.
No!
Was that footage of Tim unloading the freeze dryer?
Whee!
I'm glad I didn't.
Just let go.
It's like the monkey who won't let go of the banana in the hand trap.
I know.
You could live.
Just let go.
But then I wouldn't have a banana.
I get the quandary.
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Okay, Dave Portnoy.
That Graham Allen guy's got quite a jawline.
He does.
Does he?
Does he sell the Mohawk?
Guy's ripped.
I don't know.
Okay.
All right.
Unsure.
This one is making the rounds.
And look, I want to be clear about this.
I get it.
Okay, I understand if someone is very sensitive about their thing.
That's what happens with comedy.
People are fine laughing at everyone else's thing until it becomes their thing.
And Dave, Portnoy now has been getting increasingly upset and he had what some people might call a little bit of a meltdown over anti-Semitic jokes.
So allegedly he actually doxxed an employee at a bar over an incident where someone had a sign saying F the Jews.
Just to be clear.
And I think the order actually here is incorrect.
I'm going to go in the reverse sequence here.
I want to start with the first clip for context, the F-Jews.
So for those of you who didn't see what kind of set him off, Dave Portnoy, and let me make sure that I'm clear about the point here.
This is a guy who's made his career off of everything is fair game.
And I agree with him.
And by the way, he said some things where I'm like, ugh, maybe I wouldn't say that.
But that's his right.
And that's what he's done.
So the optics aren't great here when the entire brand is predicated on being irreverent.
Here he is last week in Toronto, where this is how it all started.
One bite, everyone knows the rules.
We didn't get here the first time.
Place is very cool on the inside.
We got Frankie Lazani's whole story, which almost seemed borderline not believable.
See, there we go.
There we go.
What are you guys f***ing laughing about?
Terrible.
Exactly.
So, here we go.
one bite everybody knows the rules we won't let that get in Okay, look, by the way, that was also That's not a joke.
That's just someone being anti-Semitic.
I get it.
I'd probably be pissed, too, if I was Jewish.
But then to go off on a live broadcast where he extends it and talks...
Hey, when does your freedom of speech infringe on my right?
Well, the answer is never.
The answer is never unless there is a definitive call to action that would be a violent crime, like calling for the death, offering up a prescription on how to physically harm Jews.
So the answer is never.
Here is Portnoy having a meltdown using what seem to be liberal talking points.
When does freedom of speech impinge your freedom of religion?
That was your question, not mine.
Answer it.
How many deaths?
Yeah.
I don't have an answer.
In America, American citizens...
Now!
Now!
So now what?
So now what do we do?
Maybe you stop with the fucking Jew jokes and act like it's not a big deal when someone does the Jews in a bar.
Shut up.
If you just want me to ignore it.
Shut the fuck up, you bald fuck.
Okay, go ahead.
How's that?
Oh, it's kill.
I'll never recover from that, Dave.
Go ahead, continue.
I'll never recover.
Well, you're the one who's like, oh, big boss man, don't tell.
I'll tell you, you work for me.
Okay, go ahead, continue.
You little bitch, you work for me.
Sure, you bet.
That's the sign of a man who's losing control.
For now, quit.
I don't care.
I'll say 500 grand.
Is this a show or not a show?
Like, is this a show or not a show?
Like, we can't have a conversation?
You're an idiot.
Okay, continue.
You're literally saying people should be allowed to make two jokes, say whatever they want.
Of course.
Yes, I think people should be allowed to make jokes.
So how many motherf***ers?
You don't think it's all related?
Vince is not a comedian!
I'm with you, but you said stop all jokes!
And neither are you.
That's Dave Portnoy's problem.
Do jokes of that nature right now if you can't of that nature.
And this is the issue, right?
It's one thing to be cute and to have a blog and to sort of be edgy.
If he were an actual comedian amongst comedians, he'd be run out on a rail because you just can't react that way.
And then as he starts to lose control where people disagree with his point, then he's That's a dog barking because they're scared.
He's losing control.
He's not in control of his emotions.
We all have those moments.
Yeah.
But his logic really broke down, too.
Yes.
I mean, he started saying, well, how many have to die?
I'm like, well, how many actually have died because of this rhetoric?
What are you even talking about?
And look, you can say jokes about anything.
In fact, I've got one myself.
Uh-oh.
A Jewish joke?
Well, let's not categorize it.
So a group of five Jewish women, they're eating at a busy cafe and the waiter nervously approaches the table and says, Hey ladies, anything alright?
What is that?
Is that part of your joke?
Ah!
Oh my God!
I have had enough to hear with this fucking Meshaguff.
Ah!
The plight of my people will no longer be mocked.
Calm down.
It's just a joke.
Just a joke.
Was October 7th a joke to you?
Was the Holocaust a joke to you?
Was building the pyramids a joke to you?
What?
I think it's pretty clear that no one's saying the historical enslavement of your people to build the pyramids was a joke.
Yeah, Nick, I think that's pretty clear.
I think that's pretty clear, just like the bacon grease you used to cook my latkes in for lunch the other day.
Yeah, that was pretty clear and pretty treif.
It was also pretty clear, like whomever's soda on that skateboarding patch that was supposedly a skateboarding patch.
It was an Iron Cross.
Oh, just a skateboarding patch.
I wore that to shul.
The rabbi kicked me out, and I can't go there anymore.
Sam!
Just calm down, bud.
You spit your ass down.
Whoa!
Okay.
The studio lock.
Yeah, I think it's Honestly, it wasn't that good of a joke, Gerald.
I guess we shouldn't make jokes?
Yeah.
Whenever you hear someone from the right start using talking points of the left, and Dave Portnoy's not right, to be clear.
He has sort of spoken out.
Against the woke left.
His rhetoric now sounds exactly like them.
Right?
This is what you...
How many times have I changed my mind?
I don't even do it anymore...
You knew that if you talked about freedom of speech, someone would say, well, when does your freedom of speech infringe on my...
You don't have a right to not be a There's no right to not be offended.
You don't like it.
That's fine.
But for you to claim you have the right to not be offended, you're actually violating my rights.
You also could even be violating my property rights.
In other words, if you're offended and you're in close proximity to my property where I'm speaking, it just becomes too convoluted.
So we don't do that.
We do the First Amendment is absolute outside of criminal prescriptions.
Does that make sense?
I don't know if I ever put it that criminal prescriptions.
Hey, I want you to kill this person.
That's a criminal prescription.
You can say fire in a crowded theater.
Provided there's a fire in a crowded theater.
Or provided, even if there isn't, you believe there is.
The only problem, and you're dealing with civil damages usually, is if you knowingly claim fire in a crowded theater to cause bodily harm as a lie.
So I don't know how Portnoy can...
Everyone can have their days.
We've all had them.
I don't know how he can rationalize it the way that you just heard and have a leg to stand on when, let's go to back then, Portnoy used the exact opposite premise to justify, and I think completely justifiably, his rape jokes.
I never condone rape, but if you're a size 6 and you're wearing skinny jeans, you kind of deserve to be raped.
Correct.
I stand by that.
I think it's a funny joke.
You think rape is funny?
No, I didn't say that.
I think it's a funny joke.
Do you understand how offensive that is?
No, I obviously don't.
Now, here's the thing.
Just switch it with, do you think rape is funny?
Do you think the death of Jews is funny?
Do you realize how offensive it is to make fun of Jews?
It's the exact same thing.
Just switch the seats.
That's my issue with it.
Just switch the seats.
Yeah.
It doesn't even matter.
I mean, I don't think he's making a very logical point either.
If somebody had walked up, and I say this to make a point, if somebody had walked up when the two Jewish people were gunned down and that was a horrific crime and said exactly what somebody said at his video on pizza, that would still not be a crime.
Right.
Yeah.
Not be a crime, Dave.
Like, you have to understand what you're calling for as a censorship of speech, period, if you do that.
And this is the thing, too, that, guys, we've been talking about this.
We've been talking about covert feminists, and we talked about Nala Ray yesterday.
We've talked about Elon Musk.
And you have conservative female thought leaders out there actively supporting OnlyFans because it empowers women to get that bag, sweetheart.
This is not a time, with the wins that we've experienced, to dilute what it is that we believe.
And free speech is absolute, okay?
I get that it was cool to have some people, some unlikely alliances, where they were coming into the fold, and they are welcome to be here.
But do not allow these people to be leaders and do not allow them to have more influence in this sphere, in our movement, meaning the movement of traditional conservative America, MAGA, conservative, that big tent.
Don't allow people to come in and go, yeah, well, I was on the Trump train and now I think we can all agree that that speech is too offensive.
Absolutely not.
It will grow as a cancer and it needs to be cut out.
The only way it can be cut out is through a retraction.
From Dave Portnoy, in repudiation of what he said, I had my moment, I of course I think freedom of speech is absolute, or you guys have to choose to give him no credence, because he doesn't believe, but you believe.
And of course I get it.
Look, Jew jokes are made and I understand why Jewish people would be more sensitive, just like I understand why Asian people would have been more sensitive when there was a stop Asian hate until they were no longer useful to the left.
But all groups of people are permissible and all subjects are permissible.
For comedy.
Of course, I should say one caveat.
None of that includes Muslims because, well, they blow stuff up and that's pretty much a nature thing, not nurture.
Oh, who's my little malak?
Coochie, coochie, coo.
Goo, goo, ga, ga.
Allahu, ek, bar.
Don't know about the pizza in that region, but Three out of five.
By the way, Portnoy is another example of a celebrity who is getting increasingly difficult to, I don't want to say work with, to justify with people who are traditional conservatives and have hitched their wagon to this.
There is no way to justify what he just said.
he's probably becoming increasingly difficult to work with for everyone around him, including his staff.
*Dramatic Music*
Hi, I'm Nicholas Cage.
Hey, Nicholas!
Or should I say Mr. Cage?
Yeah, which do you prefer?
You can just call me Nick or Nicholas or Nicky.
Okay, well, Nicky.
I don't know what to say.
You spend too much.
It's that simple.
Why are you here?
Well, we are your accountants, and we actually have to review some purchases with you.
Look, we get the cars.
The Gulfstream jet, even.
But see, like here, there's this.
There's castles.
With an S. Yeah, plural.
Castles.
You were a number cruncher.
Just crunch the goddamn numbers.
Who look like, Houdini?
Yeah, no one can clean this up.
Describe it.
I can't remember.
I don't know what that means.
Okay, um, yachts, cobras, shrunken heads, islands, again, multiple islands.
A dinosaur skull?
Yep, dinosaur skull.
That's not how this works.
Do you even know what taxes are, Mr. Cage?
I don't think he knows what taxes are.
No.
Is there anything else that we should know or you want to tell us?
I stole the Declaration of Independence.
Imagine that.
You know what?
We're going to refer you to Tax Network USA because I don't think we can help you and maybe you should look for ways to cut back in the future on spending.
I wash my face with three kinds of soap, each smelling like a different season.
And you smell lovely, Mr. Cage, but let's try and stick with one from now on.
Yeah, and don't forget Tax Network USA.
Yeah, I think they'll actually be able to take care of you really from stem to stern.
They're experts and much more capable in this scenario of handling your needs, plural.
Here.
He's not, um, uh, I don't know what to do.
That doors?
Doris, could you send in the bees?
Oh, no, not the bees!
Not the bees!
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Yeah.
So, by the way, I just wanted to say, you did say he should come out and make a statement.
Well, he did.
I'll get the video sent in.
We'll do that maybe for Rumble Premium.
But he basically is just doubling down and saying, people are getting all mad about this.
And he's deflecting and he's getting a little defensive on it.
And it's like, just own it and move on.
But we'll show you guys the response.
It's about six minutes of him not taking responsibility and admitting that free speech is absolute.
Ah, well.
So, like a liberal who wants lower taxes.
Yeah, pretty much.
So, by the way, really quickly, Pride Month is gay.
Yeah.
We have this new shirt out right now, so change my mind.
Go to the website, CrowderShop.com, to grab your Pride Month is gay shirt.
That almost sounds like you're proud of it.
Yeah, that does.
It works both ways.
If you're pro-Pride or if you're anti-Pride.
Yeah, this is like the Elvis Presley, I hate Elvis buttons, and I love Elvis buttons.
It's sure to spark conversation.
So, gays, you're welcome to buy this shirt, too.
Wait, what was that about the Elvis buttons?
I hate Elvis.
What does that have to do with this?
Never mind, I don't care.
You sell the merch.
Let's go to the...
It is gay.
It is!
No one can be mad about it.
It is gay.
That's true.
And by that, I mean there's a lot of homosexual activity.
What do you mean?
Speaking of which, let's go on to the tirade surrounding the big, beautiful bill right now.
I think a lot of the conversation surrounding this topic is gay.
And we're going to get into a claimed truth regarding Elon and this big, beautiful bill.
And I just, it's one of those things where I understand where everyone is coming from.
And you've heard me say this, truth matters.
I would say it matters most.
And so if you understand the truth, you understand what can actually be done versus what cannot be done right now through this reconciliation process versus an annual budget bill.
That'll determine where you line up.
As far as what's a compromise, what makes sense, again, to set the stage, all references available, link in the description.
The number I gave you yesterday was 1.6.
There is now a newly released number from multiple sources.
The bill that is, the big beautiful bill right now, in front of this country, it includes $1.7 trillion in mandatory savings, in cuts over the next 10 years.
Doge, the total was $180 billion with receipts for only 30% of those savings.
$1.7 trillion versus $180 billion.
Almost exactly a tenth, assuming that it's all real from Doge, and not using the actual number, which is 30%, which included receipts.
So what is Elon Musk mad about?
That's what we have discussed here at length.
But there's something more than that.
We've talked about this, right?
Making sure that you guard against wolves in sheep's clothing.
You may debate, hey, these cuts aren't enough to outpace the tax cut extension, because I guess maybe now it's more conservative to want middle class Americans to pay more taxes.
Okay, you can make that case.
I disagree with it, but there is no debate about the fact that the left They love what he is saying.
And they love how he is going about doing it.
Just hear it here.
From MSNBC's Mehdi Hassan Greenwald.
We begin with what is truly disarray in the Republican Party.
And if you do normal math, it's supposed to be the ongoing honeymoon period.
They did win the White House and the Congress, but they're sure having a hard time staying on point together.
Republican leaders are pretty openly publicly kind of panicking because Elon Musk, who is the largest donor to Donald Trump and until last week an ally of his, is basically trying to kill their big bill.
Trashing Trump's signature biggest economic priority for legislation again today and continuing with what he's been saying this week, that it is not just a bad bill or a difference of opinion and ideas, but rather that Musk says Trump's bill is a, quote, disgusting abomination.
Just like I told you when Kash Patel said Epstein killed himself, it's very clear Epstein killed himself.
I told you the left would be saying, see, even Kash Patel and Dan Bongino are saying that the rest of you are crazy.
I told you that that's what they would do.
So even if you have a difference of opinion, you better be really, really sure about it and still make sure that you frame it in a way where the left can't use it against your brothers and sisters in arms.
That's really important.
Can you guys all come up?
We can have our disagreement.
But we need to have our disagreements behind closed doors, and we need to be unified.
As far as people who are actually on our team, we need to be unified when we go against the left.
That doesn't mean not calling out people when they're clearly incorrect, or if it would seem like there's something fraudulent.
Which I would argue we kind of see here today a little bit, and I'll make the case.
But yesterday, Elon reposted or retweeted about this bill.
Which seems almost like it's personal because it was no less than 50 times.
It basically reads like a novella.
Here's a screen video.
Fuck it!
*laughter*
Posting 50 times.
That's bad for his algorithm.
He should know that.
Oh, not for him.
Well, post or retweet.
It's bad for his engagement.
Somehow, it always favors him and the baby mamas until they're on the outs.
So, it included even tweets like this.
Call your senator.
Call your congressman.
And bankrupting America is not okay.
Okay.
Kill the bill.
Okay.
But there's so much more.
It's time for Claim Truth.
It's almost like Kimmel mixed up.
And the references are available.
I know we have A.G. Paxton.
I wanted to say Senator, but let's be honest, it's a foregone conclusion.
All the references are available.
And Elon's claims, unfortunately, some of the truths here are Elon's other claims, which makes it tough.
So the first Elon claim is that the Big Beautiful Bill is destroying Doge's gains, which almost seems like it's a branding thing.
Something?
Oh, it's the EV credits.
So, Elon reposted this meme with the caption.
Exactly.
For those of you who see that meme.
Now, can you bring it back up for people who are on audio so I can read it where it says, Money Doge has saved the government.
Trump's big, beautiful bill.
Again, $1.7 trillion in savings over 10 years versus proposed $180 billion from Elon with only 30% of those having receipts.
Here's the truth, okay?
And I agree.
Raising the debt ceiling is not a good thing.
I understand that we need to reduce this deficit.
I understand that we cannot spend our way into prosperity.
But the truth, what he is citing and what is used as the premise for that meme, the entire deficit increase that the CBO cites, who, by the way, we know tends to be quite left, comes from the extended tax cuts.
So it comes from extending currently existing tax cuts, meaning if that doesn't happen, your taxes will go up.
So the entire deficit increase, the CBO is not even arguing otherwise.
The reason for the deficit increase that they are citing is you continuing to pay your tax rates.
Which, by the way, Elon Musk says he agrees with.
He says he agrees with keeping the tax cuts.
Because he agrees with Ron Paul.
But not raising the debt.
Not raising the debt ceiling.
Yeah.
And the entire reason for the debt ceiling being raised is because of the tax cuts.
And by the way, the tax cuts, if you all want those, they have to become permanent now, to be clear.
Here's something that's pretty important to note.
If Trump would ever need to raise the debt ceiling in the future, which, by the way, has been happening for, I believe, 30 years, without exception, he would then need Democrat votes.
Yep.
That would mean the raised debt ceiling would, by necessity, Have to come with no welfare reforms.
That means the work requirements.
That means getting rid of illegal aliens.
Also on a lot of these social safety programs.
I can't remember if it was Medicaid and Social Security.
Welfare.
But several of them will require work requirements.
Several of them will require hours.
They will require checking in with your ID.
This would mean raising the debt ceiling in the future with no tax cuts, and by the way, of course, with no border security, because you will not get any Democrats to vote for that, and I'm willing to bet that Rand Paul and Massey won't vote for it anyway.
And I'm more in line with Rand Paul and probably even Massey than Donald Trump on policy.
But it does not behoove us to deny reality right now.
And those are the things that wouldn't be allowed into that bill?
Now do the things that Dems want that would have to be allowed so that they could get to 60 votes.
Which Democrat policy are you willing to cave on to be able to raise the debt ceiling in what is projected to be September?
Right.
Let's not act like this is some far-off event.
There aren't enough Liebermans in the world.
The next Elon claim.
And this one is silly.
And it makes you go, why so much posting about it?
And why are you making claims that are false?
Why are you straw-metting?
That seems a lot like some of the leftists do who just want lower taxes or tax benefits for your companies predicated on the Green New Deal.
So he said, people voted on spending cuts.
That's what they voted for.
That's what he said.
He reposted this Gunther Eagleman tweet.
Every GOP member of Congress should grok November 5th election results as a reminder to who won and why.
We voted for spending cuts.
We voted for a closed border.
We voted for Doge.
We voted for mass deportations.
Our GOP is failing 77 million Americans.
Here's the truth.
People voted they just got $1.7 trillion in spending cuts over the next 10 years.
That's the truth.
But the next truth is the top issues for Trump voters in 2024 were, not spending cuts, number one, And that was largely, I know you'll say, spending cuts?
No.
Is that important to me?
Yes.
But to the average voter?
No.
That meant curbing inflation.
That meant jobs.
Number two was immigration.
That meant strong borders.
That meant deportations.
That meant sealing the gaps.
Number three was crime, meaning get rid of the soft on crime policies.
Number four was foreign policy, national security.
for more information on that you can pretty much go back to number two which is immigration.
Right now government spending as So number one is inflation and prices.
Number two is jobs and economy.
Number three is immigration.
Number four is taxes and spending.
And by the way, $1.7 trillion in spending cuts.
And I know that people will get mad and say, when did you become a rhino?
Some people say that.
$1.7 trillion in spending cuts.
Yeah.
That's better than no spending cuts, which is what you will get if you push this to the point where you need Democrat votes.
We need 60 votes.
You understand that, right?
The bill focuses on three principles at large.
Number one, tax cuts or extending tax cuts.
Two, immigration enforcement.
That's one that is going to cost some money.
And three, entitlement reform.
Work requirements.
Getting rid of all illegal aliens on these books, either by deportation or making sure that the money stops flowing.
This brings us to the next claim.
I know we have Edgy Paxton coming on from Elon.
His claim that...
Oh, sick.
He pinned this repost to his ex-account.
He said, Fox News comments is a great place to understand conservative views since they get so much traffic.
I was curious what the people were saying about Elon shit-talking the Big Beautiful Bill.
I'm shocked.
I'm a third person in this one because I know it's a repost.
Almost every comment is in agreement with Elon.
That's me.
To see so many vehemently disagreeing with Trump is wild.
GOP better be real careful.
Here's the truth.
Well, he's right.
Boomer cons love Elon because the median age of a Fox News viewer is 69 years old.
When I was there, it was 72. And I remember saying, whoa, that won't get any better.
It's only going to get older.
What I didn't take into account was death.
Oh, that's true.
It skews the number down.
And also keep this in mind from 2020 to 2024.
The 65 and over is the only demographic that shifted away from Trump, whereas Gen Z shifted toward Trump.
Ooh, there's a twist!
But here are some random comments from the Fox News X post about Musk and Massey.
Both morons are citing the left-wing CBO for their opposition to the bill.
Otherwise, if it passes, we get massive permanent tax cuts and secure borders, no tax and overtime tips for Social Security.
Here's another one.
These people criticize the bill, but they don't.
Offer specific changes to the bill.
Elon was on board with the bill because he mistakenly thought his companies would continue to receive billions in government subsidies.
And by the way, he would receive billions in government subsidies or tax credits, which the CBO would basically see as subsidies.
In other words, if you were to just multiply Elon's EV tax credits, that would require raising the debt ceiling if we're at the level of what we're talking about tax cuts.
But instead...
Not just the richest man in the world who still wants to have a tax advantage in selling electric vehicles.
And by the way, if you like Teslas, go buy a Tesla.
I have no problem with it.
So this image is also making its way around X. This one's really important.
All references available.
Link in the description.
This shows all of the pork in Trump's bill.
You might have seen this.
$3 million for LGBTQ plus museum in New York City.
That's terrible.
$3.6 million for the Michelle Obama trail in Georgia.
I'm not a fan of that.
Expensive trail.
It's just dirt.
$2 million for the Great Blacks in Wax Museum in Baltimore.
All of that.
Hey, look, I will tell you, I'm anti.
Wait.
Oh, those are all from the 2022 Biden omnibus bill.
Ah, man.
I like wax blacks.
Yeah, so does Biden.
So bring it back up.
Bring that back up from X. Can you bring that back up over Lacey 12?
You guys may believe this, and it's being retweeted, and it's being reposted by people who are supposedly conservative, for some reason, very, very, very, very, very pro-Elon, and this is being presented to you as though it's in this bill.
It's not!
Now, you may not like $1.7 trillion in spending cuts.
You may not like extending the tax cuts.
You may not like increasing spending, and I think there can be a debate about this, on border, on immigration enforcement.
You may not like those things.
But that, which is being circulated, is a lie.
And the people circulating it know it's a lie.
And those people should no longer be trusted.
Of course not.
And the people that are spreading it, by the way, we'll have Paxton in just a minute.
I'll let you know when he's ready to go.
I've asked several times, and nobody has been able to articulate this point for me.
Please point out for me the pork that is in this bill that you don't like.
Again, I go back to Rand Paul, and I understand his position.
I at least get what he's saying.
I disagree with him because I think of the cost of what you would have to do to pass an increase.
And I got fact-checked just a little bit.
It's August, September, so technically it could be August by the time that this thing actually comes around again, which is not too far down the road.
But with Elon, I don't think he's had any specifics.
And it makes it sound even more like the EV thing.
And you're like, oh, the EV thing.
But remember yesterday when we talked about it, there was some guidance that it could actually impact 52% of their, I believe, profit.
Yeah, profit.
Would go down if those EV tax credits go away.
By the way, not just sales, profits, because of how much is baked in, where the business model requires tax credits.
It depends on that.
I think that makes the point for everybody.
Now, if Elon is against the debt going up forever, I understand that, but you have to be practical in how you solve that problem.
It's not a switch being flipped.
And there is a process to make this thing happen.
We do need to get the doge cuts in.
We need more doge cuts as well.
We were promised a trillion, at least a trillion.
It sounded like he was almost going to the two trillion mark at one point.
We're not getting that right now.
We need a spending bill, but that's going to take 60 votes.
It's going to be really hard.
By the way, when was the last time that you saw a major entitlement program massively reformed?
Yeah.
That's true.
That's a very good point.
This is a big thing.
You want to know what pisses the Democrats off?
Just look at what they're talking about.
They're cutting benefits.
That's why they're pissed about this bill.
Yeah, I would tell you this.
This is the closest thing to the right-wing equivalent of Obamacare that we've seen, of the Affordable Care Act, which just basically, by the way, since the Affordable Care Act, have your health care costs gone up or down?
getting rid of fraud, making sure that people have to check in with ID.
So with this, no more able-bodied young...
Well, no, sorry.
With this bill, no more able-bodied young single Americans without children will get free.
I believe it's Social Security, and I believe it's Medicaid, unless you work...
20 hours a week.
And volunteering and school count.
And you know what's going to happen?
This is going to throw a lot, a lot of the young obese feminists who've gone to college who can't work because of a disability and it's about get off your hover round and go to work or you're not going to be collecting this off the taxpayer dime.
And they are freaking out about it.
Is it perfect?
No.
Is it the biggest win that we've had in Two decades?
Yeah.
Yeah, I would say this.
Fiscally, for conservatives, it would be the biggest win that I can think of in two decades.
It's not going to come in one chunk.
Why don't you take the wins when you can get them?
$1.7 trillion in cuts.
Tax cuts that actually help the economy grow and go to the number one thing.
Inflation and price of goods and jobs.
That's actually very good for us.
Why don't you take the wins where you can get them and go...
I can't stop the debt ceiling from going up this time around.
If I wanted to try that and you want to see what the apocalypse looks like, go for it.
Unless you have a plan.
I haven't heard a plan.
By the way, here's the thing too.
We just had Donald Trump, President Trump's approval.
I believe it's at 52% and it's up.
And this isn't direction of the country.
This is Donald Trump approval.
It's going up.
I don't know.
Someone can facture me.
I can't remember ever in my lifetime a president proposing?
Frankly, that's as close to a real-life magic trick.
That I've ever seen.
That's the prestige.
I half believe that there are hundreds of Donald Trump clones in boxes beneath the stage as he continues with this act.
But coming up right now, he's also been doing a pretty good job.
A lot of people, big fans of him.
I ran into him, by the way, at a restaurant the other day.
It's time for future Senator, but current Texas AG, Ken Paxton.
All right, and the latest polls, by the way, show Paxton with, gosh, a 22-point lead over Cornyn, and he's up over 38 points among those who describe themselves as very conservative.
You can follow him at KenPaxtonTX on X or KenPaxton.com.
Mr. Paxton, sir, thank you for being here.
Hey, thanks for having me.
I've been enjoying coffee and my letter for Crowder mug this morning.
Well, thank you very much.
I appreciate that.
It's with Crowder.
So, the big beautiful bill is a hot topic right now, and I want to get to some things, obviously, locally, because a lot of Americans are, you know, eyes are on Texas and McKinney.
But first, this big beautiful bill, Republicans can only afford to lose three votes in the Senate.
You have Paul, you have Johnson, they've been critics.
As a senator, since you're running for senator, How would you be treating this bill?
What is your view of it?
So, look, I understand the criticism, Johnson and Rand Paul.
We've had this deficit growing over the last, especially since Obama.
So I understand the criticism.
However, this is a reconciliation bill.
not an appropriations bill.
This is a reconciliation bill where we have a chance, because we only need 51 votes, we would need 60 in an appropriations bill to get the tax cut to have these tax cuts be permanent, or at least I think those make a big difference.
I don't think the Congressional Budget Office does fiscal dynamic scoring, which would allow us to see the economic impact of tax cuts actually creating more revenue, not less.
I think they overstate the deficit because they think these tax cuts create deficit.
I'm not convinced that's true.
These tax cuts are really important for our economy.
We're creating opportunity, and I think they'll actually drive more revenue.
So I think that's being overlooked.
I also think the fact that so much of this spending is being used on things that the Biden administration failed to do, which was protect us.
We're talking about safety.
This is the type of things that government should do, which is build a wall and make sure that they have the money to deport people that are here costing us money.
So this is another dynamic fiscal thing that I don't think is being calculated in.
the savings in crime costs, the savings in health care costs, education, all these costs that we're not going to have to spend because we're deporting people, that's actually a more efficient use of dollars than it would be to let them stay and have to incur all these costs.
I'm actually in favor of this bill, and I understand the deficit part of this, but I don't think it's necessarily, I think in the end, if you could actually calculate this right, we may actually be...
Well, yeah, it's $1.7 trillion in cuts, and the entire reason from the CBO for the increase, right, when they talk about the debt ceiling increase and the deficit, is they are assuming that continuing, right, extending these tax cuts will add to the deficit.
We've talked about this, right?
Whether it's a Laffer curve or Hauser's law, no matter what you charge in taxes, at a certain point, it stabilizes because it ends up balancing itself out.
Historically, I think you know this, but a lot of people may not realize the CBO has always been...
Yeah, it's just typical.
And that's why I don't trust their numbers.
They typically overstate tax cuts, the negative impact, and do not take into account the positive impact.
And our state does the same thing.
When the comptroller analyzes things, they don't take into account the benefit of tax cuts.
I think, overall, this is going to be a significant boost to the economy.
Which drives more tax revenue to the federal government.
If you look at history, that's always what happens, and they have not taken that into account.
Right.
And that needs to be combined with, obviously, spending cuts, which this does.
In other words, you can't just generate revenue.
You need to cut spending.
And there's a very conscious effort as far as, Can you remember any more significant or greater reform to entitlements in recent American history than this bill, like the work requirements?
I can't.
Does anything come to mind?
I, you know, I've been around a few years.
I don't think it's happened in my lifetime.
All I remember is expansion, expansion, expansion, the state level, the federal level.
So, no, this is remarkable.
And I agree.
This may be a beautiful bill because it does spending cuts, tax cuts, and accomplishes our deportation and security goals all at the same time.
It doesn't address the appropriations, but they're going to have to come back a little Well, speaking of deportations, I want to get to a couple things regarding Texas and immigration.
But I know you're a resident there of North Texas.
There's some runoff elections in McKinney this weekend.
And a noted real estate developer there who's the mayor, George...
That was proposed.
And I know people who live there who are like, wait, wait a second, we had a choice between a third or fourth term.
Turns out you're only supposed to get two.
So he's done pretty well there.
But he's done pretty well.
Some people have pointed out, you know, did McKinney's real estate boom, which he also does, but he's a mayor.
How do, a lot of people sometimes look at this and say, how do we prevent conflicts of interest from politicians or local politics, which, by the way, often goes overlooked?
Yeah, I think there needs to be more disclosure.
I don't have it.
These people have to make a living.
I don't fault anybody for making a living legally.
I just want to disclose so that the voters can assess whether that is a conflict of interest.
And if there is a real conflict of interest, I think maybe the city.
I mean, it's their rules.
It's their elections.
They need to pass some type of conflict restriction and not force the state at a higher level to step in and deal with, you know, it's a growing problem.
But I really do think disclosure is a key part because I think the voters have the opportunity to make their decision and vote based on the information that they have.
Well, let me ask you, your sound is being a little bit animatronic for us.
It sounds like the aliens and signs a little bit.
But I wanted to ask you this because a lot of people have been looking at this in Plano.
And I know you can't talk about all of it being AG, but speaking of immigration, what has been dubbed Sharia City, you know, in McKinney, in Plano, from the east.
Plano Islamic Center kind of moving over, creating this big complex.
A lot of people nervous about it.
There have been, I believe, a local justice who said, I'm going to have to oppose this.
What is being done about this?
What can you discuss publicly?
Because it's kind of become a national story.
Yes.
What I can tell you is, hopefully my voice is better than it was, that we are investigating this.
We are looking at a lot of different aspects of this.
The main thing is, look, we have a First Amendment.
These people have a right to practice their religion.
Other people don't agree with it.
But they do not have the right to not follow federal law, not follow state law.
And that's what we're looking at.
Are they following our laws?
Are they trying to create their own laws?
So that's what we're looking at.
And that investigation is ongoing.
And we are acquiring documents from cities.
And we're still in the process of gathering information.
But this is a real investigation.
That's what I will tell you.
Right.
I know it's a real investigation.
I know that town residents have been concerned because they say, wait, this is basically...
And you wouldn't really be able to do that with most other groups in this country.
Certainly not white Americans going, this is just white Christianville.
Well, look, we've seen what happened in Europe.
It's, you know, many of these, like England, I think it has been taken over.
With Sheree Law, we cannot allow that to happen.
We have a constitution, we have our own state laws, and those have to be followed.
If they want to participate in that society, they're welcome to do it, and they're welcome to worship as they please.
All right.
Well, yeah, your sound is a little bit rough, so I think we're going to leave it at that.
But by the way, I also saw you murder that tomahawk steak that night that we ran into at the restaurant.
I was like, he's not going to eat that whole thing, is he?
He did.
People can follow you at Ken Paxson TX, and I know there's probably going to be some updates here to follow, so please come back and visit us, A.G. Paxson.
I want you to know I ate steak, ate a lot of steak, and I have no plaque.
I did a body scan, no plaque.
So it's working out.
Good for you.
Next time, don't have your body scan conducted by Gerald by hand.
All right.
A.G., Ken Paxson, everybody.
That always sucks when the sound is gay.
It just started halfway through.
I was like, oh, come on.
We're getting to the Sharia thing.
I know.
I really wanted to talk about it.
I wanted him to be like...
Get out!
Well, I mean, that's a rough one where he's like, hey, I don't want them to do this without, you know, they have a First Amendment right.
Of course they do.
Yeah, they do.
But did you see that?
What was it?
I can't remember the name of the show that it was on Netflix within Oregon.
Family Matters.
No, Oregon, where this group moved up there and basically imported enough people to be able to vote themselves into every single seat or at least almost all the seats in the city council and everything and change the rules to benefit them.
It's like, yeah, that's the kind of thing that can happen.
So I'm not really all for these kinds of communities existing in the first place.
Even if they're like, yeah, anybody can move here, but it's so oppressive that you're not really allowing people.
I'm like, I don't want these enclaves.
So we've got to figure out how to deal with this within the kind of rule of law that we have.
But we don't want people setting up micro communities within the country and kind of isolating themselves and not adapting to the country they have chosen to come to.
Step by Step was the show.
You're thinking of it.
It was not.
It was step-by-step.
They adopted a bunch of kids.
That's the whole thing.
They had an enclave.
I think it was different strokes.
It was Suzanne Somers and Patrick Duffy's a national hero.
Don't cross the line.
It's mystic.
I don't know.
It might have been that too.
Yeah, it was different strokes because they had the differences in their strokes.
Yes, exactly.
It was an Indian guru.
It was an Indian guy.
It wasn't strokes.
What are you talking about, Muhammad?
Yeah.
Oh, you're talking about Wild Wild Country or whatever it was called.
Wild, yeah.
The cult.
Yeah, the guru who had like five Learjets.
That's what I mean.
By the way, if you think you may be in a cult, here's a good question to ask yourself.
Is there one guy at the top who gets to bang all the bitches?
If the answer is yes, you're in a cult.
Yeah, that's true.
That seems to be a common theme that I noticed.
If the answer is yes and you're the guy on top, you're the leader of the cult, you're not in a cult.
No, then you are just a normal guy.
You're a good salesman.
Yeah.
Kind of cool.
Just kidding.
All right.
Well, we want to continue with this.
We're going to go, of course, to Rumble Premium.
But, hey, we have a little extra time since the signs aliens took over the Ken Paxton call.
He's going to be a senator, though.
He's going to be all right.
He's going to be fine.
President Trump, not only, we're not just discussing the BBB, the big beautiful bill, but he's been racking up some wins recently and his approval is going up consistently as a result, including three notable wins from just yesterday.
Because there's Elon and the Trump people and people are arguing.
Okay, but we can all agree on this.
Remember how it was awesome when President Trump referred to some countries as shitholes?
Yeah.
He was like, why are we bringing people from shithole countries?
And then people are like, can you believe that he said that?
And you were like, yeah, of course.
We say it all the time.
Well, the good news is he just did it again and instituted...
The recent terror attack in Boulder, Colorado, has underscored the extreme dangers posed to our country.
By the entry of foreign nationals who are not properly vetted, as well as those who come here as temporary visitors and overstay their visas, we don't want them.
In the 21st century, we've seen one terror attack after another carried out by foreign visa overstayers.
From dangerous places all over the world, and thanks to Biden's open-door policies, today there are millions and millions of these illegals who should not be in our country.
We will not let what happened in Europe happen to America.
We will not allow people to enter our country who wish to do us harm, and nothing will stop us from keeping America safe.
And I just want to, before I go to the leftist meltdown montage here.
I just want you guys to take a moment and celebrate the wins.
Now, I've been here, well, not here, but if you're watching the clip on YouTube later on, since 2008.
And I remember what was permissible to say and what got you labeled a racist really quickly.
Shithole countries back then was racism, racism, racism.
Even people who supported the idea of it still would say, oh, but I wouldn't refer to it as that.
Now, people are saying, yes.
Yes, exactly.
You know what?
We're at the point, absolutely.
When he said, hey, they're not sending their best, talking about gang members coming from South America and Mexico, that was what was used to label Donald Trump a racist.
And now Gen Z Hispanic males overwhelmingly turn toward Trump.
It's not just the policy.
It's that the temperature in this country is people going, you know what?
Okay, you want to say I'm a racist?
Yep!
Travel ban?
Oh, you know what?
We have the right to discriminate as to who comes into this country.
We are okay with it.
And so now we have a list of 19 countries.
But before that, I'll get to them.
Cue the leftist meltdown.
He also has some kind of silly things, I think, which says, for example, some of the countries that face demands of partial restrictions are people who have a higher percentage of people overstaying visas.
I mean, how is the country supposed to screen for that?
What's that got to do with anything?
This is not in America's national interest.
America, we celebrate the individual.
We don't believe in group punishment and treating everybody the same.
Now do DEI.
U.S. taxpayer-funded plane to pick up white Afrikaners from South Africa.
So they're fleeing a made-up genocide.
A made-up genocide.
We are saying no to the people in Sudan who are fleeing an actual genocide.
Well, first off, the first part is a lie.
The second part, yes.
We're saying the same things.
Almost.
They're fleeing a genocide.
Sure.
Not our job.
Well, isn't that fundamentally wrong though?
Right, no, exactly right.
We're allowed to take asylum seekers.
Because that's part of the thing, right?
There's always a carve-out.
There's always an exception.
But even then, we're not required to.
Also, that man, I can't remember that man who was on there with O'Donnell, said, this is against our national interests.
Let me ask you, how is it in our national interests to take thousands or millions of people from Afghanistan, Haiti, Laos, part of the 19 countries, by the way, on the list with either full or partial travel bans.
How is that in our national interest?
Who right now is saying, you know what this country needs?
Some more Haitians.
All of our cookies are made of cookie dough.
It's disgusting.
Remember back in the day you'd get a good dirt cookie before inflation got it?
Dirt cookie flavored ice cream.
So Afghanistan, Haiti, Laos, Somalia, which, by the way, is a huge bummer for all of Ilhan Omar's remaining horny brothers.
They can't get in.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Geez, they're well endowed.
They're taking that.
It was epic.
And by the way, we're going to continue with the other wins that have gone on, including basically saying, no, Harvard, we're not going to allow these Chinese nationals here at your school anymore.
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So along with some of these partial bans on countries, there are actually some very specific exceptions, I believe.
Well, actually, you know what?
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