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May 29, 2025 - Louder with Crowder
01:03:38
🔴 BREAKING: Court Rules Trump Tariffs Illegal - Threatens to Destroy US National Security
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Welcome to the lineup live.
You see it's a little darker because this light is flickering here in the studio.
We got gremlins.
Glad to have you here.
We're going to be talking about a lot today.
Taco!
President Trump chickens out.
They think that's a funny little colloquialism that the left is trying to make a thing, but I'm willing to bet it's going to end up like fake news.
Do you remember that fake news was a thing the left tried to use and then it got jujitsu'd and now they're just beside themselves and they can never live it down?
We're going to go through that, what it means, and if there's any...
Also, this is a big one.
The court or courts blocking Trump's tariffs.
My half-Asian lawyer is here so that we can give you a rundown of this.
I think a lot of people are getting it wrong, and I'm not a lawyer, so I have one here to discuss it.
And, you know, not everything is an intellectual exercise, to be clear.
When people talk about constitutional authority, constitutional parameters, what falls under the executive branch, you do remember that the Constitution was drafted really in a...
Not everything is some libertarian think tank, and we're going to get into that, and I think it's time to wield the power of that executive branch in a way that is not violating anyone's personal civil rights.
But yeah, to stick it to the left a little bit.
I know I've heard this argument all the time.
Well, you know, if you do this, well, shoes on the other foot.
As though the left is not going to do that.
You guys can come.
It's time to fight fire with fire on that one.
Again, bridling our selfish urges a little bit.
We're going to discuss that.
And, of course, welcome.
I almost forgot this.
Bongino Army, I know you just came in from Vince.
Welcome.
Vince comes from Vincente in Latin, which, by the way, all the romance languages are based in Latin, and it translates roughly to, Dad, you gotta stop treating me like I'm a little kid!
On with the show.
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We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
Oh shoot, I forgot to sip.
We're in disaster today.
Glad to be with you.
Question of the day.
What determines a national emergency?
The answer is fentanyl.
It's always fentanyl.
Which, come on, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
When I had my surgery, they put a little bit of Fenty in my IV bag, and I get it.
Nice.
If I'm going to go out in a blaze of glory, at some point in time, I'm taking all of you with me, but it will include copious amounts of fentanyl.
George Floyd style?
Yeah.
No grain of rice-sized kernel terrifies this man.
It's going to be a satchel of fentanyl, and we will let nature take its course.
All right.
With a smile on your face.
It's a live show weekdays, 11 a.m., and of course, if you are a member of Rumble Premium, tomorrow we have an apologetics episode with one Gerald Morgan and Andrew Wilson discussing the differences between Protestantism and Orthodox Christianity, and I'm willing to bet it gets a little heated, although you're quite a congenial man.
Captain Morgan, CEO, how are you?
I'm fantastic.
He beat the crap out of me in that.
Really?
No.
It was back and forth.
We both had good points.
I appreciate it.
He said he very much enjoyed the time.
It's fun.
Yeah.
He's wrong.
I'm right.
But whatever.
It's fine, Andrew.
He also requested that next time you don't show up in a trench coat and flash him.
But we all have our thing.
Fine.
Naked it is.
And Sunday, July 6th, the Funny Bone Comedy Club.
You can go and see him.
You know him.
You love him.
Josh Feierstein.
That's at the Funny Bone in Orlando, right?
Yes, Orlando.
Okay.
Orlando of Disney.
And you don't say gay at my show.
No, you do not.
Hey, does fentanyl help my night terrors?
I think it pretty much helps all terror.
It puts you at a very nice hum.
It's worth trying, for sure.
Yeah.
Shut up, Bill.
We haven't introduced you yet.
Look, look, of course, do not do drugs.
I'm just saying I get it.
Unless you have night terrors.
Unless you wake up screaming, no, Uncle Tom, don't do that!
We're not supposed to talk about Uncle Tom.
It's in your writer.
And we're going to hit the stinger later because we're going to do an official segment, but his show is hardly legal on YouTube.
My half-Asian lawyer, Bill Richman, is here.
Thank you for being here, sir.
We needed an expert as we discuss law and constitutional authority.
I'm excited.
This is a crazy time right now, and we're going to have fun today.
Well, hopefully.
I tell you what.
This lady was not having fun, and it's why women shouldn't be cops.
I've got a severe of my credit.
Oh.
Step aside, ladies.
Step aside, ladies.
A complete nondescript civilian is going to simply caress him gently.
In gym shorts.
A tender touch.
I love how he's showing.
This is all it takes, and they're still giving it a wide berth.
You guys want to take it for dear?
He seems okay with the guy handling him.
He's like, you do it like this.
Just put him against the wall.
They're acting like he's demanding they eat a puffer fish.
I don't think I want to get near him.
This is my job, I know, but I can do it.
Another man runs up and then you hear sirens in the background.
Undoubtedly more male police officers.
Yes, undoubtedly more male police officers are showing up.
And look, this is not to say that women are physically less capable than men, but women are physically less capable than men.
Unfortunately, the shoe attack put the female cop in the emergency room.
We have a trade E today.
We do.
It's a process.
It's still funny.
It's okay, Nick.
you know, people, they die in the woods, they die of shame.
Don't...
Oh my God.
Whoa, whoops.
He said...
Who's in control now, Steven?
You're the guy drowning, and I throw you a life preserver, and you're like, that's for fags!
I don't need this!
I got this!
I got it!
You're dragging him out of the pool, and he's just punching you in the face like, let me fuck it up more!
You haven't seen the ninth level of hell yet.
What I'm saying is, just shake it off.
People in the woods, they die of shame.
They sit there thinking what they should have done, what they could have done, and they die.
Instead of doing the one thing that would have saved their life, thinking.
Which is push the right frickin' button.
Why didn't I just get a text that says, take him to the train station?
Oh my gosh.
I was gonna say something and I don't remember what I was gonna say.
Thanks.
Something about die in the woods?
I don't know.
Hey, just in case you guys, you can say sexism, but we're done with that.
We just don't care anymore.
Here are the facts on women in combat or physical roles.
So, women failed the police physical test in New Jersey at 13 times the rate of men.
We don't have the national numbers because I don't want you to know it.
Women failed the army fitness test.
At a ratio of 6 to 1 compared to men.
And women in the army are 67% more likely to receive some kind of physical disability discharge or some kind of musculoskeletal injury disorder.
Like, guys, I don't know.
Feminists, I will say, hats off to you.
You've done a great job at guilting and browbeating men into allowing you to be physically hurt.
As a sign of progress.
Seems like the wrong way to go.
Yeah, the main thing is we just don't want to be hurt ourselves now.
Now citizens are at risk.
For more proof, just see France.
They have no idea.
If I am, not fentanyl, but if we're going now to PCP land, if I am a known felon with a rap sheet, out of my mind blitzed on PCP, and I know that I'm going to be going to the slammer for a long time, It is an answered prayer to see a lady cop show up.
I go, oh!
It might turn your life around.
You pray to God real quick?
Please, God, if a feminist cop shows up.
Yeah.
I swear I'll turn it around.
I swear.
Look, if you just send a female cop, I'll beat the shit out of her.
I'll never do anything bad again.
And I'll get away.
Oh, it's Becky!
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Let's move on to this.
This is something that's always fun when the left thinks that they're clever.
They've now tried to coin this new term after the setback that we'll get to on the tariffs.
It's taco.
Have you guys heard this?
It's Trump always chickens out.
And I get it.
They think that they're going to be goading him.
Like, ah, we're going to hurt his ego with this.
They tried this with fake news.
Do you remember this?
Have you been around long enough?
Fake news was something that the left made up to try and attack conservatives online, alternative media.
And it actually kind of did work because social media started censoring, throttling conservatives more.
But then Donald Trump commandeered that word and started using fake news.
And then they started attacking their own term.
I'm willing to bet that something like that is going to happen with Taco or...
But the term is taco.
They're trying to make the case that Donald Trump always chickens out.
Is it?
By the way, is it based in fact?
But first, hear them describe it to you.
Well, or maybe consumers are also into the taco trade, you know?
That's an acronym for Trump always chickens out.
It was in the FT last week.
And Donald Trump's predictable reversing of himself has now created a new phrase with the acronym What do you think, retired mid-level surfer?
I don't know if you could more effectively put together a montage of people I hate.
Like, you could have a montage of the key members of the Taliban, and I'd prefer it to those folks.
Those guys are cool.
He really thinks he's clever.
Trump always chickens out.
He said it like he was reading some kind of apocalyptic message to the country.
Like he's waiting for Bill Maher's crowd animator to say, clap, clap, give him your validation.
So they even asked Donald Trump about this, tried to corner him, and here's his very President Trump-like response.
Mr. President, Wall Street analysts have coined a new term called the taco trade.
They're saying Trump always chickens out on your tariff threats.
And that's why markets are higher this week.
What's your response to that?
Six months ago, this country was stone cold dead.
We had a dead country.
We had a country people didn't think it was going to survive.
And you ask a nasty question like that.
It's called negotiation.
You set a number.
And if you go down, you know, if I set a number at a ridiculous high number and I go down.
A little bit.
You know, a little bit.
A little bit.
They want me to hold that number.
145% tariff.
Even I said, man, that really got up.
You know how it got up?
Because of fentanyl and many other things.
And you added it up.
I said, where are we now?
We're at 145%.
I said, whoa, that's high.
But don't ever say.
What you said.
That's a nasty question.
I just love how this would apply with nukes, right?
You're like, oh, Truman, don't chicken out.
You got six nukes ready.
Just drop them.
No basic negotiation or strategic thinking.
We surrender.
Not yet, you don't.
We're always talking about Jake Tapper where he didn't have the information that was available to everybody.
At the time.
And it's like, oh, so you guys, we need journalists, right?
I saw Aaron Brockovich.
You guys are all inherently altruistic.
I get the point.
But you haven't done your due diligence in...
I don't know if you know this.
There's an entire book, actually, written called Art of the Deal, where he specifically lays out the strategy that you're seeing in real time.
And this is lost on you?
Is that a good book?
Did it so well?
Yeah, exactly.
So, you know, at this point, either you're lying or you're just very lazy, in which case, no matter what the answer is, there's no use for journalists.
And of course, President Trump is visibly annoyed, almost as annoyed.
We all have our days as a tool man was the other day here in the office.
*Groans*
*Groans*
Thanks, Tim.
I can breathe.
It's so nice.
Wait, what's that smell?
You could really learn some manners.
I gotta get back to work.
Go to clear.com.
That's clear with an X. And use promo code LWC20 for 20% off your purchase of clear and spry products.
Clear.
Wash your nose.
And I will tell you this, the only thing keeping me afloat right now is this.
I have twins who are, it's basically a walking double Petri dish.
And even though you can hear it in my voice, I can breathe fine.
This really is safe.
And you know what?
I don't have to use the medicated nasal spray like I used to, which that stuff's not good for you.
So I hear, but I'm not making medical claims.
Yeah, you get addicted to it.
Yeah, that's what I hear.
So did President Trump chicken out?
Well, it's time for some claim truth.
All right, taco.
Yeah.
Let's go for some taco claims.
Here's the claim that you hear from the left is that President Trump chickened out specifically on China.
Is it true?
The facts support the taco thesis, whether it's been on electronics early on or the high tariffs on China.
The taco doctrine.
Talk is big.
It's science.
Blows his trumpet, makes a huge fuss.
And before negotiations even begin.
Before he's even made contact with reality.
The lady on the left, it's tacos.
Yeah.
Here's the truth.
Not even close.
That's incorrect.
So, President Trump gave China this 90-day reprieve because they agreed to restart negotiations.
Now, we all know that their word is not worth the fortune cookie it's printed on.
So they said, OK, we're going to restart.
And then, the next truth is that the courts ended up hamstringing President Trump.
So if not for the court injunction, the tariffs on China would still be 50 or 60%.
And by the way, up until this new injunction, everyone was okay with it.
That's two times what it was in 2024.
Exactly.
Came in high, was going down to 50 or 60%.
And really, up until the last 48 hours, people were like, well, I guess that's the new normal.
That's a win!
That was a really clear way of negotiating.
Basically, it's like doubling the price of something and then giving somebody 25% off.
Oh, I got a deal!
Yeah.
Great!
Yes.
Just reset it.
It's the old Kohl's deal.
Yes, exactly.
Where they double the price and they give you 50% off and then they give you another 20% off.
You're like, but this is still more expensive than if I just buy it anywhere.
Is he giving tariff cash?
Yes.
That's awesome.
Make him the first white woman president.
They love Kohl's cash.
I don't know what it is with the Kohl's cash.
It's not legal tender, by the way.
Here's the next claim that they're making for.
They claim that President Trump chickened out, not China, but also on the EU.
Donald Trump blinked once again, backing off the threat he made days ago, delaying the implementation of a 50% tariff on the European Union.
The European Union is America's second largest trading partner behind China.
Okay, here's the truth.
It's clearly, and it always was meant to be, a starting point for a deal.
Again, read the book, Art of the Deal.
This is someone with business experience who understands negotiation.
Here is President Trump explaining as much.
I have great respect for the people at the European Union.
They wouldn't be over here today negotiating if I didn't put a 50% tariff on.
The sad thing is now when I make a deal with them, it's something much more reasonable.
They'll say, oh, he was chicken.
He was chicken.
So, the media can try and bring out these attacks and taco and chicken.
Here's what really matters.
Do you believe that President Trump is trying to work on better trade deals for the United States?
You can comment below.
That's what matters.
And it is interesting that the media is always lining up against the interests of the United States.
Let's just, let's distill this down to It's most basic form.
They're going, Europe got you, even though they didn't.
They're going, good for you, Communist China.
Hey, how about creating the acronym for Xi Jinping?
How about creating the acronym?
How about mocking the governments that jail people for speech?
Why are you always rooting for the bad guy?
Why are you always rooting for the governors who Why are you always somehow on the corner of Communist China?
Why are you always somehow defending MS-13 gang members?
Like, I'm not just, this isn't hyperbole, there are no exceptions.
There really aren't.
So, you know what?
I'll give this administration a little bit of grace and hope that these negotiations keep going on because any type of retaliatory tariffs...
Yeah, and they're doing it right in the middle of the negotiations, too.
Just let this process play out a little bit.
I understand that we're going to comment on how it goes throughout the process and what you think the wins and losses are, but right now they're saying, ah, you're a chicken, you let these guys win, and it's like, you have no idea what's going on behind the scenes.
Not at all.
Well, to prove my point right now, I think it's Rahm Emanuel talking about the Chinese student visas.
Let's see if they're advocating for foreign Chinese nationals who are likely spies in our institutions.
I want to get to those as well while I have you, Ram.
You call the Democratic Party's brand right now, in your words, toxic and weak and woke.
Give me specifics.
What are you referencing?
Okay, that's good.
By the way, I don't like him, but I do respect that he poked a man in the chest naked in the shower.
That's true.
Clothes are optional when you're pissed.
That's pretty cool.
That is how I will remember Ram Emanuel always.
And you know what?
Before we get to this next segment, it's regarding the courts blocking the tariffs from President Trump.
We're going to be discussing the separation of powers, the executive branch, what kind of authority these courts have.
And that's why I actually brought in my half-Asian lawyer, Bill Richmond.
And he has his very own intro.
Yeah, there you go.
Nice.
So, what's the show?
Oh, go ahead.
Sorry.
Let me plug your show.
Yeah, you're right.
What's your show, Half Asian Builders?
Hardly legal.
We're on YouTube.
We're also on Rumble, so definitely check us out on there.
We're going to be uploading more episodes.
But real people who are calling in, they're anonymous, real legal issues, the craziest stuff.
Nurse in Long Island who issued thousands of fake vaccine cards to first responders and then got thrown into solitary while she was in jail.
What?
We had a student who's electroshock therapy experimentation by a professor.
You heard this before?
Wasn't that the Unabomber?
Pretty crazy.
And then Crazy Landlord Puts Dog Shit in Tenant's Hockey Bag.
That's funny.
That one makes me like the landlord more.
I was like, yeah.
But here's the thing.
The bag smelled so bad, he didn't know it was in there.
I mean, if you had a hockey bag, you know how bad it was.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's really the tenant's fault.
All right, Gerald, now you have your moment in the sun.
I apologize.
I wasn't looking for that.
I was trying to figure out.
I think I saw a chyron from CNN that said that they were trying to block or that a judge just issued a temporary block on Harvard students' visas not being allowed for foreign students.
So that would be a new block.
I don't think we had that planned on our list today to talk about.
But if that's true, guys, let me know in research.
If that's really what actually happened.
this brings us to this conversation here.
We are all references available, and we wanted to make sure that we have lawyers who work here, not only have Haitian Bill Richmond, but George the Greek, who said, you know, we think we can really help serve you guys and give you some insight here, because the media is not going to...
But let me sort of set the table here.
Not everything, and I mean this.
And by the way, I was at fault on this front, too, hanging around a lot of libertarians, and when I was at Fox News, and it's always, you know, Brookings Institute and Reason Magazine and all, Manhattan Institute, they all kind of bleed together at a certain point.
Not everything is just something that we discuss in the theoretical.
When we talk about the Constitution, the context does matter that this was a people who had warred.
With the greatest superpower, arguably, the world had seen, certainly in recent centuries, to become the only superpower the next century.
And the Constitution was meant to preserve that.
So if you think for a second that these founding fathers would have thought or supported the idea of local judges, of district judges, who were not elected by the people of this country, determining national policy on everything from Immigration.
Not just visas, but deportation.
Tariffs.
Dealing with the drug crisis, the fentanyl crisis at the border.
You think that Thomas Jefferson would have said, oh sure, some judge in Connecticut should determine what happens at our borders in a time of crisis.
Then you need a CAT scan.
And I tell you what.
If we find ourselves in an actual war where it comes to your home front, God forbid that ever happens, if we find ourselves there, none of these kinds of games that we're playing now will enter into the equation.
You've been separated from the necessity of our founding and constitution by comfort for far too long.
So I want to put that in context before we get into the ins and outs.
We're at a point here where this country, it may be, Do you understand that?
Through decades of complete inaction.
And in this case with judges, willful destruction.
In other words, this did not happen overnight.
The fentanyl crisis, the open borders.
You don't get 20 million people in four years here illegally overnight.
You don't get, we don't know the number, which also doesn't happen overnight, hundreds of thousands, millions of illegal aliens benefiting.
From social services here, from social safety nets, whether it's Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, that doesn't happen overnight.
And we can't continue down the path of an action.
And part of the reason for the executive branch is to be able to deal with these problems and break through it, especially in times of emergency.
So do we want to wait for it to be an emergency where it can no longer be fixed?
It's beyond repair.
Or, and comment below, do you think that we are at a point in this country where the emergency is now, as far as immigration, as far as the subversion of Western civilization, as far as deals being made not in the interests of the American people, even though our representatives have made them, but in the interests not of just foreign nations, but foreign adversaries who want to do you harm?
Is the emergency now, or do we need to wait?
For it to become a war.
In which case, I guess you have to call Code Pink.
So Wednesday, three-judge panel at the Court of International Trade, for those of you who haven't seen this yet today, they blocked President Trump's tariffs again.
The president, the will of the people.
These judges said, no!
We're following some very big breaking news tonight, news that will come as a big blow to Donald Trump and his agenda.
Tonight, a three-judge panel in New York has effectively balked almost all of Trump's disastrous tariffs.
Trump's tariffs against Mexico and Canada, his tariffs against the EU, against China, his tariffs against uninhabited islands with nothing but penguins and snow.
They are all blocked by this federal court decision.
The court said his effort to justify them with broad claims of national emergencies exceeded his legal authority.
Can you believe it?
The ruling caused stock futures to jump.
I'm going to say this to you twice.
The Trump policy that was And what did the markets do?
Jumped.
They were excited about it.
The world will reset itself around the restoration of law and order in international trade and the crushing of the Trump tariffs and resultant personal worldwide humiliation of Donald Trump.
So let me be really clear before we get some key facts.
You just heard it.
Does the bidding of Wall Street.
Occupy Wall Street was a load of crap then, and it is now.
They're happy that Wall Street will willingly and gleefully put the needs of the American people and our manufacturing base and our employment base on the back burner in favor of short-term profits.
They think that's a good thing.
Because you can look at inflation right now.
You can look at employment numbers.
You can look at, by the way, what happened in Donald Trump's first term.
The highest raise.
That working class Americans saw in their salary, in modern American history, they would rather see Wall Street do a little bit better, and by the way, was already on the way up.
And then you just heard O'Donnell, who wants you to stop the hammering, you heard him say, isn't this great, gleefully, that the rest of the world is mocking your elected leader, your president?
There are no exceptions.
They always celebrate the wins.
Of people who want to destroy this country, like China.
Yeah.
To be clear.
He even goes on, he said something there that made me, like, it blew my mind.
He said order is kind of returning or something along those lines, like the order of global trade.
I'm like, you mean the order that's screwing us as a nation?
You're happy that we're returning to that?
That normal order that Donald Trump was trying to correct?
Right.
That's not just being against Trump, that's being against us.
Like, you don't want us to succeed.
By the way, a big part of the tariffs, too, was about China.
Getting their ass in line with fentanyl.
Yes.
So I guess the order of record overdose deaths.
Okay.
Thanks, O'Donnell.
So let's go to the first key fact here.
All references available in the description.
Number one, the ruling, what their argument is.
And Half Asian Bill, you can probably clarify this with people.
It's that President Trump can't invoke emergency powers under the Emergency Powers Act to deal with things they claim like trade deficits or China's fentanyl.
Right?
That's their standing?
Yeah, essentially what they're saying is that it's, even though it's specifically tailored to a particular concern that is backed by a lot, a lot, a lot of evidence.
This isn't just anecdotes or talking about, you know, hey, look, a few folks overdosed.
The millions of issues that are coming out of this people with overdose, the drugs, the border issues, they're saying those are not specific enough to be able to invoke the National Emergency Act and then use that as a basis under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to do these tariffs.
I mean, it's one of the most ridiculous analyses, keeping in mind that the last time that the Court of International Trade even spoke on tariffs, So this isn't just, oh, Trump is doing something that's a little bit unusual.
Well, unusual circumstances require unusual solutions, but the courts even taking up of this issue is extremely unusual.
Yeah, and that would, again, seem like the weaponizing in many ways of the justice system.
This affects the Liberation Day tariffs, right?
There were like 10 to 50 percent, depends on the country.
Apparently, they may be, I don't fully know this, the government may have to refund businesses that have already had to pay tariffs that have been collected.
Now, there are some that are not affected.
For example, the tariffs on cars, on steel, on aluminum, because that was imposed under a different law, the Trade Expansion Act of 1962.
So some people are a little confused about that.
That's why.
So one is okay, and one's not.
And this brings us to key fact number two.
Who the judges actually are.
So you have Gary S. Katzman, who was appointed under Obama.
You have Timothy M. Reif, who was appointed under Trump.
And I know people say, look at Trump!
Yeah, well, so was Amy Coney Barrett.
And then you have Louis Anderson's long-lost twin sister, Jane A. Rastani.
So, you know.
I'm a judge, you guys!
Spot on.
She's not even the weirdest-looking district judge, though.
No?
No, I made a list.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Alright, we'll go back to the legal analysis, but I guess you have a list.
I have a list real quick of the weirdest looking district judges that I've seen.
Okay.
At least last night.
Okay.
Number five on my list is district judge and girl from the ring all grown up, Linda Lopez.
Okay, that one's pretty weird.
Brush your hair, lady.
Number four, Ninth Circuit judge who requests that both councils approach the bench so she can inform them that she is in fact the one who farted.
Anna de Alba.
It was me!
Yeah, we know your honor.
Alright, okay.
Your flatulence.
Alright, what's the next one?
Circuit appeals judge and human suppository John B. Owens.
That's exactly what it was in my head.
Yeah, no eyebrows for nice insertion.
Smooth transition.
Number two.
Fourth Circuit Court Judge.
Sorry, it's hard to read.
Fourth Circuit Court Judge, who is totally not buying my story, Roger Gregory.
Yep, he looks like you.
That's some bullshit.
That's some bullshit.
I know I want you.
Okay.
I don't have time for this.
It's lunch.
It's lunch.
The court rests.
And number one weirdest-looking district judge, Court of Appeals judge, who reads every case up, down, left, and right, all at the same time, and is also part-time sloth, Eunice Lee.
She is positively turpid.
Nothing gets by her.
That's been Josh's List.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
Music.
We'll be right back.
Okay, that is the most white-named black person I've ever seen in my life.
Eunice?
Yeah.
They probably pronounce it Eunice!
Eunice!
Go ahead and call Eunice.
What?
I got a cousin!
I know two Asian women named Eunice Lee.
So, literally, when the picture came up, I was like, oh, this is not what I expected.
Not an Asian sloth, no.
Her son is you, nephew.
No, but Asian sloth is my favorite strain of wheat.
That's what it turns you into.
Alright, key fact number three, and this is really important, you know, half-Asian Bill Richmond will know this probably better than anyone here.
What can the Trump administration do?
Now, I know they've already filed an appeal.
And that's what they've got to do.
So the very first thing is, the ruling from the Court of International Trade will take effect in 10 days, is when the officials have to go and walk back everything that they need to do under that particular order.
And so the appeal to the Federal Circuit Court, so that's the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, has already been filed, and the Federal Circuit can issue a stay.
They can say, nope, Court of International Trade, your ruling, incorrect, do not have to move forward with it.
It decides to say, hey, the Court of International Trade was correct.
Keep going.
Then there can be an appeal up to the United States Supreme Court.
So I would say we're going to see a busy, busy, busy next 14 days on this front.
And here, just so you know, there are other options, by the way, other tariff options that can be basically implemented via executive order under section I have this here, 232.
And as I understand it, this allows the president to levy tariffs on products that threaten national security.
So, for example, that would be like the current steel and aluminum tariffs.
Bill?
Yes, so the specific ones, this is that issue of like how narrow can it be?
Right.
This isn't an argument to say that the president can't give tariffs or initiate tariffs on specific products or specific industries.
But what they're saying is you can't just do it broadly because they're saying that fentanyl is not a broad enough problem, that illegal border crossings by our foreign enemies is not a big enough problem, which really just comes down to.
Yeah, exactly.
What's the number of deaths?
Yeah, but when you read the opinion, the opinion doesn't actually get into the weeds of the justification.
It just says, we don't believe it's actually a national emergency, so fuck off.
Well, my neighborhood's fine.
Actually, they do kind of say, well, it is an emergency, but we're still not really going to let you do it because, and I don't understand the rest, and I have a quote later on.
But I also know that some can be implemented through Section 301.
As I understand it, the president to levy tariffs on specific countries that impose unfair trade barriers, which sounds exactly like what he did.
That's why I'm so confused.
They're called the reciprocal trade tariffs.
I mean, they're literally like, if you're doing it to us, we're going to do it to you.
And now, apparently, we're saying, well, you can't just unilateral or globally respond to everyone.
What?
What?
Yeah, why not?
So, I'm going to make sure I understand.
Section 301, it allows the president to levy tariffs on specific countries that impose unfair trade barriers, but reciprocal tariffs, according to this court, don't apply?
So what they're saying is, is like, okay, so you remember the quote earlier, she was like, the lady on the news clip was like, oh, this snowy island that all they do is export like sea salt or something, right?
So there is a point to be made that some of these countries may have tariffs that are not actually impacting us in some kind of serious way because they're such small players.
But the reality is the vast majority of these, the reciprocal tariffs, are designed to say, you've got some issue with us.
We're going to go ahead and step up and start dealing with it across the board.
But they're saying, no, you can't just decide to do it across the board.
It doesn't make sense.
Well, we also have another possibility with Section 122, and To levy a maximum 15% tariff to address the balance of payments crisis.
So that only can last 150 days unless Congress extends it, right?
Correct.
And so that's what Gerald is actually mentioning that earlier before the show.
There's a way to be able to start moving these into place and give those options.
In fact, in this particular circumstance, folks...
So, for example, under the Trade Expansion Act, you can literally have a national emergency declaration.
There's some findings that have to be made by Congress.
And then it becomes almost unattackable at that point, right?
You can't use the courts to attack it except in a very narrow slice.
And I think the issue is that Trump And now everyone's coming back and going, no, I guess fentanyl's just not that big of a problem.
Right.
Yeah.
That was the issue that everyone united around.
And I was one of the few people who said, yeah, we need to separate fentanyl.
And opiates.
Because, unfortunately, people put the baby out with the bathroom.
Like, we don't have an opiate crisis.
We have an illegal opioid crisis.
Because this idea that Timmy got some Vicodin because he had a root canal and then was blowing hobos that he could get a pack up.
It's just not true.
It's just not true.
And now people who need pain medication You can't even get a poppy seed bagel anymore.
No, you cannot.
It's ridiculous.
You can't if I'm getting it.
You can't if you blow a hobo.
That's true.
We all have our lines.
That's true.
Well, that's just what he told you.
You can get a little extra schmear if he doesn't.
He doesn't actually have poppy seed bagels.
There's also a way to do it through section 338.
And again, as I understand it, we have the links here.
I think we have a link to Cornell.
It allows the president to impose up to 50% tariffs on countries that specifically discriminate against the United States.
But that's never been used before.
And again, here's the thing.
They say, oh, Donald Trump applied it too broadly.
These sections and sort of areas where it would be permissible.
Also seem insanely broad to me, Bill.
Yeah, there's a lot of them that are brought in because they haven't actually been used.
We're just going to have more and more challenges that go, well, this has never been limited before, so let's just go ahead and try to limit it.
And then when you have activist judges who say, well, we're going to err on the side of doing anything that will limit Trump's agenda because we don't like Trump, then it becomes a problem, right?
The pressure there on these judges and them succumbing to it is a big problem.
I mean, these are articles.
They need to maintain their independence and follow the law.
But here they continue to err on the side of striking down without looking at the real evidence behind them.
They pretty much have struck down everything.
Well, they're trying.
They're trying to strike down everything.
Literally everything that President Trump has done.
They even tried striking down his lunch order last week.
They have, what, tariffs?
Okay.
Then they've done visas.
Okay.
They've done the deportation orders in some cases.
So what can be done?
This is the thing.
You're basically saying there is no power.
Didn't we have some of the biggest spending ever take place under Barack Obama?
Didn't you have George W. Bush effectively declare war without Congress at one point in time?
Remember, that was kind of a big deal?
And now you can't say, hey, a reciprocal tariff until you fix the fentanyl epidemic?
Tell me the courts have been politicized without telling me the courts have been politicized.
One of my problems, too, and Bill, you and I were talking about this earlier, is that the people that brought these cases...
Goldman issued a statement after this ruling and said basically this is a nothing burger in that the tariffs can be put on in other ways and the administration will move to do that.
So the tariffs won't really go anywhere.
It's not a nothing burger in that the courts are now overstepping their bounds yet again and that's what we're really talking about.
But that just goes to show you the people that are bringing these suits, they know.
That that is likely what's going to happen.
And so it's not really even about affecting the tariff policy of this administration.
It's about making Donald Trump look bad and weak.
Right.
And who does that help?
China.
Exactly.
Our foreign adversaries.
China's all too happy that this is happening right now, by the way.
Right.
They love it.
They want this to happen.
So, Bill, you just said something a minute ago that I just basically wrote down a little bit of a note.
Part of it is a cuss word, and I can't say that, but I read it, and it's fine.
The courts can say this and issue a stay.
Screw it.
I don't care.
It's going to go to the Supreme Court.
I'll wait on their decision.
Until then, everything stays exactly as it is.
Come get me, bro.
Well, they've got 10 days.
At the very least, they've got 10 days.
No, it's not even 10 days.
I'm saying, I don't care what happens in 10 days.
Screw whatever order they come out with.
Screw whatever.
I'm doing literally nothing.
If I'm this administration, I'm doing nothing right now.
Nothing changes.
I'd go out and be like, hey, that's really interesting.
It's really cute that you guys had this decision.
It doesn't make any sense.
So we're going to appeal it.
We're going to ask for a stay.
We're going to go all the way to the Supreme Court.
And until that decision comes down, I'm not doing anything different than what I'm doing now.
China, you're still screwed.
You've been kind of like Joe Biden did with red forgiveness and student loan forgiveness.
What are the consequences if he does that?
I mean, I know it's different for Trump than Biden.
Yeah, so this is always the issue when you look at the judicial system and you say, okay, what will these courts do?
They don't really have their own police force.
So at that point, you start getting into this fraying of the entire system, right?
So a question of like, okay, if the branches no longer listen to the other branches in areas where they're making rulings, who's going to step in and do something about it?
It could be something like declaring that these officials who are not complying are no longer in power.
They no longer have the authority, but again, it requires Or you start moving over into the judicial side of enforcement where the Justice Department starts arresting officials for failing to comply with court orders.
You start throwing them in jail, things like that.
So, I mean, this could escalate pretty crazy.
Seems unlikely, though.
They're not going to do that because this is the only president who they have tried to jail and someone attempted to assassinate and that backfired on.
I can't imagine they want to send in.
Yeah.
Send in your guys.
By the way, let me just clarify.
I'm not saying that you're ignoring the courts.
I'm saying that you're waiting for this to go through the process.
And so you're going to sidestep the game that these guys are playing.
Right.
So we'll get to some of the solutions down here, but because there are obvious solutions, because this administration can go different ways with tariffs, the game is basically, let's just slow him down long enough to where he's ineffective as President of the United States.
And so he looks weak, and it helps our enemies and people around the world that are competing with us, that maybe aren't our enemies, but want to compete with us economically.
I just think he says, fine, yeah, I'm just going to ignore all this until it gets to the Supreme Court.
We'll have a fight there.
Macro point here.
You now know why it is almost exclusively Republicans and conservatives who wear the American flag pin.
You guys get it?
Yeah.
They're celebrating empowering China, just like they did MS-13.
Do you guys get it?
I get it.
And Affidation Bill is a very accomplished lawyer.
He's going to understand the details, the granularity on this far better.
But I think you all know enough to see that they are cheerleading.
For people who want to take what you've built, and I don't just mean you, the American people as a country, what you have built personally.
If it's a business, if it's some sense of community, if, hey, maybe it's a rehab center, by the way, to deal with people who have been struggling with this drug crisis.
Everything that they are advocating for and they are cheering is adversarial.
To the good of the American people.
And I think it's important to keep that in focus because then you'll understand the behavioral pattern.
Wait, why is the media?
Why is the Democrat Party?
And why are all of these district courts, these judges, why are they all acting the same following lockstep?
There has to be a commonality.
Well, then you look to other commonalities.
Oh, championing China.
And that's not a stretch, by the way.
Oh, making sure that foreign Chinese nationals can stay on our campuses.
Oh, making sure, by the way, that we don't necessarily have voter ID.
And the reason that all ties back, because you had a Chinese national who voted in Michigan.
It was confirmed.
His vote still counted anyway.
You guys remember that shit?
Yeah.
Oh, wait a second.
Oh, advocating on behalf of a nation who has, by their own admission, Been seeking the destruction of Western civilization and harming you in this country any which way they can.
And they all follow lockstep.
When they say, hey, look, Donald Trump's in the White House.
Sure.
Look at all of the other institutions.
Higher learning.
You've seen what's happened with Harvard and Brown.
You look at the courts.
You've seen them overstep their bounds.
You look at what's happening, of course, in the legacy media.
Look at just Jake Tapper, what he's going through right now.
Still not apologizing for lying.
How do they all line up on one side all the time?
Oh, and who else is there?
Oh, that's right.
China and criminal gangs who want to exploit our open borders policy.
They're all in one huddle.
It's them versus you.
Let's go to the next key fact here.
And this is important.
What can be done?
Well, really, this should go to Congress.
And you would think, hey, Republicans have quite a bit of control at this point in time.
They could retroactively ratify President Trump's tariffs or pass a tariff law.
But you have some people there who may not.
So this, and I have this written down here to make sure that I remember correctly, and Bill, you can clarify, they can amend the Emergency Economic Powers Act.
Or expand Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act to include issues specifically like trade deficits or the Chinese fentanyl crisis.
And here's the thing.
I know they can do that.
Congress would need to do it.
But it already seems like it's in these sections.
That's where it seems disheartening.
Like, yeah, but that kind of seems there, though.
That's the biggest rebuttal to this entire thing is that Congress has already taken the actions to delegate the authority of tariffs in large, large, large areas to the executive branch and specifically to the president.
So really, again, we're not arguing about can the president impose tariffs or not.
It's how many tariffs and how far can those go, which makes the complete striking down of the specific tariffs, the reciprocal tariffs, the ones related to fentanyl on the border, a huge problem.
Because it's essentially saying, we know you're allowed to do some stuff, but we're just going to throw it all out right now and then let you figure it out, right?
So that political motivation to say, we're just going to hamper you across the board is a big problem.
And to get to your point earlier, Stephen, I think it's really interesting when you think about the lack of values that are applied when attacking these policies.
The side, like you said, of Occupy Wall Street is now using the evidence of the stock market going up and capitalists winning as evidence that this was a good policy or a good result.
It's like, wait a minute, you're not even on your own side anymore.
And that's where you can find some hypocrisy that underlies this entire attack on what it should be and is a stance to protect America.
If Donald Trump existed in the 1800s and implemented these kinds of tariffs and policies to protect the American worker and our manufacturing sector, Bernie Sanders would praise him as a folk hero.
You guys understand that?
What do you think Bernie's And this man, he stood up to Wall Street and he said, I don't care about the fat cat profits.
I'm going to focus on employment and I'm going to focus on economic growth and inflation manufacturing for the working class.
Now he's on the side of Wall Street.
It's horseshit.
Anyone who tells you that Occupy Wall Street was or it was always horseshit.
These people are never consistent in their values.
Ever.
Let's go on to what their claims are.
Let's steel man this here for a second as far as how they justify it.
Here's one of their claims.
Is that the trade deficit doesn't actually constitute unusual or any kind of extraordinary threat.
The law does not grant tariff authority to the president simply when he finds or determines that an unusual and extraordinary threat exists.
I sense a little snark there.
I appreciate it.
But man, when you put it that way, it all kind of makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?
Now, for the first time, we have a federal court saying that we all, well, we all kind of sort of knew to be true already.
The president's justification for this trade war is BS.
Okay, so here's the truth.
The threat...
It's not an emergency for people like Jen Psaki.
It is for a lot of people in this country where you had judges sit by while this country just got caved in in many ways, particularly our industries.
This nation right now, you don't think this is an emergency?
We're completely dependent.
You remember COVID?
On supply chains from our biggest adversaries who want to do us harm.
Things like critical minerals.
Pharmaceuticals.
Remember shortages during COVID of that?
Electronics.
Ship sets.
And then, if we want to write this ship, we can't, by the way, just up production right away because of some other red tape.
We also can't build our own stuff here anymore.
So, ships, any kind of fabricated metal, all kinds of military goods.
Think about this for a second.
If you had an asteroid hit the United States' ability to extract, to use, to refine, process, to basically Create what we need as far as rare earth minerals, as far as chipsets, as far as our ability to build ships, as far as our ability to build and assemble a lot of military goods.
So in a world where an asteroid just hits those targets, where we can't do it anymore, do you realize it would have no discernible difference because we can't do it now?
It all has to come from China.
It all has to come from overseas.
We're not talking about tchotchkes that you put in a party favor bag.
We're talking about during COVID.
Do you guys remember this?
During COVID, now, this was as bad as it gets for you, and it turned a lot of you conservative.
During COVID, it was cheaper to get a new car than a used car, in many ways.
Do you remember that?
Because of the interest rates.
Do you remember how there was a shortage?
Do you remember how you weren't?
It's the first time where I may invoke a lemon law, and half-Asian Bill knows this, because I've had to have the transmission.
The only time in my life I purchased a new car, because it was the only full-size SUV available in the region.
And you have twins and a 120-pound dog?
You need one.
The transmission has been switched out like three, four times because they didn't have the chipsets.
You all went through that.
Do you guys remember needing certain drugs, antibiotics during COVID, not being able to get it?
That's the closest you've had to an emergency.
Do you know how much worse it would get in a time of war?
Where it's not just because they have supply issues overseas as well, it's that they deliberately turn it off.
But don't worry.
I bet China would never do that, because they're looking out for you.
I bet they would never use the leverage they have against us.
Let me say one quick thing on that, and I think I'm uniquely situated.
My Chinese family members...
They're not even like me, half Asian.
They are 100% Chinese.
They have been sounding the alarm for decades, saying that if you don't recognize that China wants to dominate and control the planet, then you are not listening.
And I think that's the fundamental disagreement here, is they're going, oh, you're just being racist by targeting these other countries of people that look different.
No, we're not doing it based on the way they look.
We're doing it based on what they see.
The lack of intellectual property protections, the ability to send shitty goods, if not actual bad drugs, over into this country.
The precursors for fentanyl being able to flow not only directly into the United States, but onto the North American continent that makes its way into the United States.
China could be doing more.
They have one of the most aggressive and complete police states that have ever existed.
And they're like, yeah, I don't know.
Man, I have no idea how these drugs and the chemicals are getting in and why do we sound like we're from Jersey?
I don't know.
Is a bad Asian accent.
No, but that's what the Chinese are saying who are here in America.
They're like, hey, we know a little thing about those guys because we fled that fucking country.
Yes.
And the rest of white liberal America is looking around going, no.
I think you're just being racist.
Put it this way.
Yes, during COVID, and we all are, but during COVID, we were in a tailspin.
China was also in a tailspin, largely because they were lying, by the way.
Yeah, to the rest of the world.
But let's just say this.
We were all in a tailspin, okay?
And you saw the supply chain issues.
You saw what happened.
Now, change it.
Change.
We're in a tailspin, and China's not, because they planned it.
So take what you went through with toilet paper and apply it to everything But it's not an emergency.
Let's go on to the next claim.
And this is one that they kind of make, but they say, well, fentanyl is kind of an emergency, but it doesn't really matter.
I have this from the ruling.
They say, the state plaintiffs do not argue that the fentanyl trafficking orders fail to invoke unusual and extraordinary threats.
That's them saying, like, we're not arguing that it's not an emergency.
But then they go on to say, a dam deals with flooding by holding back a river, but there is no such association between the act of imposing a tariff and the, quote, unusual and extraordinary threats, for example, that of the fentanyl trafficking orders purport to combat.
What they're basically saying is, yeah, we get that the tariffs are leveraged, and we get that fentanyl is actually, we acknowledge, kind of an emergency, but we're going to act like we don't understand the connection.
So no.
It's not specific enough is basically their argument.
I gotta tell you I agree though.
I think that what the court is saying here is we need to build 100,000 A-10 warthogs and have them patrol the borders and just shoot every fentanyl-carrying boat that comes near the border.
Look, I actually agree with that.
I'm into A-10 warthogs.
They're beautiful.
They sound beautiful.
But short of that...
It's saying, well, we have this one really important lever that China would not like if we used, so we push the button, and now we're like, no, it's not directly connected.
Yeah, come on.
I don't understand the metaphor.
The metaphor is that if you build a dam, you stop the river, but there's a saying, well, just let the river flow.
Yeah.
Don't even try to build a dam or whatever you're doing.
Just stop.
Kill the beaver.
I'm going to be reductive here because I'm good at that.
You have a choice.
Pull the economic levers now or pull the lever of the war machine later.
That's your choice.
There you go.
It's a binary choice.
There is no choice number three.
Pull the tariff lever now, make it sting enough that they get in line, or...
That's where this goes.
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Really quickly, just, I don't know how this, show the Photoshop of Donald Trump as a pirate with Chinese pirates.
Don't even set it up.
Just go.
That turned out okay.
Yeah, he's seizing their fentanyl.
Pull it back up really quick.
I know we have to raid, but pull it up.
He's taking their booty.
Look at the bags.
Those are like the cheap Chinese food carry-out bags.
Look at me.
That's not fentanyl.
It's MSG.
Same thing.
So addictive.
Look, before you walk the plank, I have one question for you.
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