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May 5, 2025 - Louder with Crowder
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Everything Wrong with Meet the Press' Trump Sandbag Interview
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But both are problems.
So, we're going to be talking today about Donald Trump reopening Alcatraz.
That's fun.
Whoopi's going to be releasing small pieces of her weave through her pockets in the prison yard.
We're going to be talking about the H.R. 867, the anti-boycott bill.
A lot of people saying this is something, something Jews.
Kind of, but not really.
But more importantly today, we are fact-checking the fact-checkers because President Trump spoke with Kirsten Walker.
Kristen, I said Kirsten will admonish me later, but I don't care because I don't like her.
Even though she follows me on X, we'll be talking about this.
I see you, Kristen.
We'll be talking about their fact-checking of Donald Trump, where it's odd how every single one of their fact-checks is non-factual and wrong.
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Question of the day.
After Alcatraz, what would you like to see President Trump bring back next from the past?
What throwback would you like?
Would it be like a torture method?
Like wood chips up the thumbs?
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Cat in two.
CEO, Morgan, how are you?
I am fantastic.
You have some admonishments coming, too.
I have quite a few.
I even just said Captain Two as opposed to number two, Captain Morgan.
It's Kristen Welker.
Not Kirsten Walker.
Yeah, I got two wrong.
I feel like that's two things wrong, not one.
Yeah, alright.
Toolman hit it really fast, so let's get this over with.
No, no, no.
Admonish.
Well, you said two, so I...
I'm awake.
Is Gerald getting in Montessor being a tattletale?
Yes.
Yeah, because no one likes...
Yeah, okay, Jan Brady.
And at Goodnight Comedy Club in Raleigh, North Carolina, Friday, Saturday, May 23rd and 24th.
Not underscore Firestein on ex-Mr.
Josh Firestein.
You good?
Yeah, I'm good.
I'm good.
Similar shirts?
Yeah, look at it.
It's very similar.
Mine is bigger.
Oh.
Which makes me better.
It's a larger size shirt.
Yeah.
It's the camera.
It's the lens.
Hey, let's go to something really dumb, because that's always fun.
Connecticut, Democrats, which is always weird to me how heavily Democrat, considering that all the wealthy people go to that area, you know, in Connecticut from New York.
I don't get it.
White guilt.
Yep, pretty much.
Well, they decided to play the dumbest version of, you know the game, Would You Rather?
Well, they were doing We Would Rather, and give examples here, than 100 Days of Trump.
It's as dumb as it sounds.
Thank you.
I would rather have 100 bare haircuts than to deal with 100 days of Donald Trump.
I'd rather have 100 vaccination shots in my arms.
Deal.
I would rather have to take 100 scammer calls than go through the last 100 days.
I would rather have 100 children on a bus singing 100 bottles of beer on the wall.
Fun kids?
I would rather sit on Interstate 84 in a traffic jam for 100 hours.
I would rather cook 100 family meals.
And believe me, my kids are going to find this very funny.
Because you don't cook.
You're a horrible mom.
100 times, then have another 100 days of the Trump administration.
Hey, I guess the deficit's solved.
There should be maybe some kind of law or rules that unless you've solved all the problems of your constituents, you don't get to do stupid TikTok videos.
Didn't we see what happened with this during COVID and nurses and dancing and all of this stuff?
Yeah.
This was a great idea.
And by the way, the people are dying and you're playing Earth, Wind, and Fire.
I'd rather hear children.
Like, if Donald Trump really is the second coming of Hitler, like, I'd rather hear children singing than Hitler.
Yeah.
And I'm like, wait, you didn't really commit.
Yeah.
It's like, I'd rather sing Old MacDonald with toddlers than go to Treblinka.
Well, yeah.
Okay.
That makes sense.
It's a concentration camp.
Oh, you don't believe anything that you're saying.
Except the one lady, she's like, I would rather cook a hundred family meals.
You know that, like, that would be a low number in any given year for a mom before women's lib.
Like, that shouldn't be seen as a burden.
It should be one of life's greatest joys.
Like, I would rather fulfill my role as a mother and wife than have to deal with a hundred days of economic growth.
I think it's because she has an immigrant cooking all her meals.
They asked Lily Phillips, but she misunderstood the question.
I'd rather do 100 dudes than zero dudes.
One day, apparently.
Right, they're not paying.
I guess I don't know.
Think about the martyrdom of the...
That's what sticks out to me.
I'd rather cook 100 meals.
You're an awful spouse.
And mother, that's all you told us right now.
What?
You hate doing the thing?
And my kids will find this funny because they know that I don't cook for them.
Great!
I hope you enjoy a lady from Nicaragua raising your children.
All right, let's move on.
Chances are, if you don't cook for your children, they're not going to be paying attention to what you're saying.
That's a very good point.
How much you want to bet she doesn't homeschool?
Mom's virtue signaling again!
So, here's another one that's pretty funny before we get to the...
We have a long segment fact-checking the fact-checkers today, but this woman...
I use this term loosely in Delaware.
This is...
It's in Delaware, but I guess it's pretty near Philly.
No, Delco.
Delaware County.
Oh, that's right.
It's Delaware County.
I'm sorry.
You should...
We'll admonish me later.
All the admonishers.
Delaware County pencil...
It's an easy mistake to make.
Is it?
Well, you know I'm a big Delaware fan.
Huge Delaware fan.
I think it's a...
Love the big D. It's a no-sales tax state.
Do I have that right, Delaware people?
Delaware.
Delaware, now's your chance to have anyone listen to you.
Sound off.
So Pennsylvania, someplace that is confused for Delaware, but it's near Philadelphia.
This lady had, you know, road rage.
But, I mean, this escalated to a crappy level.
*Beeing*
Yes, that is her.
Defecating on a car.
Wow.
She just had that one ready to go?
I mean, that's a skill.
It's on command.
Shoot a turd out real quick?
Oh, that is not a turd.
Oh, look at her here.
Listen to her.
Can you tell us what happened?
The lady chased me.
She chased me, and I asked her not to attack her.
Did you wipe, ma 'am?
I have a sickness.
Yes.
Yeah.
You said she chased you?
Yeah, she chased me.
And I got out and begged her to stop.
Well, you know what that makes sense.
I love just the Philly stuff.
Nothing better to do!
That's right.
You don't take a water shit on my car.
This is like...
You know when people talk about how, like, women shouldn't vote?
What they're talking about, what they're talking about is like there was a period of time where there'd be a guy who'd be like, hey, that's not very ladylike.
And we moved from, like, that's not very ladylike to, you know, women maybe helping in a factory to, like, now they're crapping on cars in public on command.
Don't we want to go back to some traditionalism?
Maybe not all of it.
You know, maybe not like a woman is chained to a loom at home while her dad goes, but like, you know, we smack them around a little bit if they crap around.
They crap around people's cars.
Like just a, you know, like a Sean Connery.
Keep that option on the table.
So she crept on that car, and the problem is, it still was difficult for police to point her out in a lineup.
Here it is.
Yep, look.
It's an H-1B town.
The local police chief, by the way, did say that he didn't think it was funny, but he also issued a comment.
You gotta go, you gotta go.
Oh, sorry.
Here's the red cliff.
I know it's being joked about a lot.
I know there's all kinds of puns, innuendo, and humor online about this.
He's smirking.
Yes, he is.
You know, the bottom line is we are treating it seriously.
Nope.
It can't happen in this period.
No town wants this to happen in their town.
The recognition a town gets over this kind of thing, it's really unwelcome.
We don't want this.
Stinks.
Chief Madonna says with any road rage incident, there's always a level of frustration, but never a need for it to escalate.
There's anger.
Things are certainly tumultuous in our country, to say the least.
There's a lot of anger out there, and sometimes this is how it presents itself.
Wait, how many times?
Police say if you do find yourself the victim of an incident of road rage, a lot of admonishments, that you should report it to your local authorities and avoid shitting on cars.
Bill, they have to take it completely seriously.
That's what's so with old news.
They say there's no instance where it is legally permissible to defecate on a front stoop.
Bob?
They gave that one to the interns.
Yes, exactly.
I kind of feel like if there's any, like, all right, man, what was she doing to you?
She was honking.
Okay, let's, dismissed.
Yeah.
Free car washing, dismissed.
Yeah.
You're just like, ah, just whatever.
I don't have time for this.
I think I'd rather have somebody get out of the car with a bat.
Yes.
Yeah, me too.
I don't know.
Than to squat on my hood.
Yeah.
Well, you have the ability to reverse.
And make it really awkward.
Was she still in the car?
Did she do it to the parked car?
I don't know.
Was it parked?
It looked like he was in the road.
The thing is, she had no shame.
She seemed proud of it.
Well, she also was preparing.
When I see the preparation, I'm moving.
Yeah, exactly.
She's going to defecate on my car.
She said I have a sickness.
I don't know if it's like an irritable bowel syndrome or if it's a mental sickness.
Research sent in.
Apparently, she's part octopus.
It's a defense mechanism.
Oh, come on now.
That looks like a mouth.
That was gross.
I don't like that.
I got a sickness.
I just have to go around pooping on carts.
That's all I do.
That's pooping Jenny.
Don't mess with her.
Don't tell me what I can and can't do.
That's patriarchy.
All right.
Stupid.
Let's go on to this.
That's why I don't wear panties.
For dudes to get in there easy and for poop to get out hard.
Well, maybe not hard.
We need harsher punishments for these things.
We really do.
I'm sorry.
This is why I don't say that prison should always be about rehabilitation.
Sometimes it's just punishment.
That lady needs to feel the sting.
She needs to feel the sting.
And I'm not talking drunk tank.
I'm talking she should go in with a cellmate who claims he's a woman and let the cards fall where they may.
Dunk tank, dunk tank, please.
I want more of this.
Dunk tank?
That would be a great punishment.
That thing wouldn't last a single shift.
You'd have to hose it out.
Well, she gets waterboarded in her own poo.
That's a great idea.
It actually is.
Alcatraz.
Now, before we get to this, here's a flashback.
Do you remember that last year, Whoopi Goldberg, she had this fantasy, even though she had to read her notes to double-check that it was her fantasy, about locking President Trump up in Alcatraz.
I don't want this to sound like I'm doing wishful thinking.
Yes.
Bitch!
But which prison would be best?
I know which one.
Rikers.
Well, that's what I got.
Number one is Rikers.
But, you know, I'm okay if he goes to Alcatraz and they reopen it.
Let me check my notes so I can sound clever.
What would be the worst prison?
I don't know.
How about your sex closet?
Aw.
That's a fun time.
Fifty shades of gross.
He's begging for solitary.
Oh no, not the candle wax!
So, last night, President Trump pulled an Uno reverse card, announced that the United States will be reopening Alcatraz.
He said, rebuild and...
Reopen Alcatraz!
For too long, America has been plagued by vicious, violent, repeat criminal offenders, the dregs of society who will never contribute anything other than misery and suffering.
That's all they contribute.
When we were a more serious nation in times past, we did not hesitate to lock up the most dangerous criminals, keep them far away from anyone they could harm.
That's why today I am directing the Bureau of Prisons together with the...
DOJ, FBI, Homeland Security to reopen a substantially enlarged and rebuilt Alcatraz to house America's most ruthless and violent offenders.
And he said we would make America great again.
And by the way, he's moving pretty fast on this one.
For the grand opening, they hosted a cocktail hour and first imprisoned Whoopi Goldberg.
So that is exactly right off the bat.
Perfect.
Aww.
Nice.
The classic look.
Hey, can I get a Manhattan?
No.
How about a Gimlet?
Let me check my notes.
So, can he do this?
This is the question of people like, can he reopen Alcatraz?
Let's go with yes.
So, in 1972, the federal government did buy Alcatraz, and this was the property, I guess it was a property clause of the Constitution, means that we probably need congressional approval, but it is federally owned at this point.
The reason it was closed down was because it was pretty expensive to run, and I understand that, and look, I am a conservative, so I do believe in fiscal responsibility, but, you know, we've trimmed like $150 billion.
I think we've earned a few laughs.
Yeah, and it wasn't shut down because of, like, inhumane, you know, quarters or treatment.
I mean, I read up on Alcatraz because, you know, a big, you know, big prisoner fan.
Yeah, of course.
And they got, like, a lot of these prisoners got their own, like, own room, their own cell.
They got, you know, the food.
Yep.
Clint Eastwood said the answer.
That's all you need?
Yeah, he did?
Escape from Alcatraz.
Go watch it.
And then you will realize that Shawshank Redemption is a direct copy, almost shot for shot, of Escape from Alcatraz.
I don't care.
He carves a hole in the wall and covers it up and he empties the dirt through his pockets in the prison yard.
I remember watching this going, oh, Shawshank just, they literally just copied Escape from Alcatraz.
What is this?
He escapes during a storm.
A better movie.
Okay.
By the way, I love how Donald Trump can't just reopen it.
He's like, bigger and better.
Substantially enlarged.
He always has to be like the promo guy saying this is going to be amazing.
But here's something.
This goes into a few other things that Donald Trump is doing.
Symbolism to him.
These things mean something.
It's true.
He sees more value.
In the symbolic nature of having Alcatraz, then just the, it costs three times as much.
At least when they closed it down, it costs three times as much to house prisoners there, as opposed to somewhere in Atlanta, right?
Or in Georgia.
That's what they were talking about.
Do you think that it would be more cost-effective nowadays?
Do you think we have better methods?
Maybe, I mean, maybe so, yeah.
Maybe they can put a water filtration?
I think so.
I think it probably would be more cost-effective, but I don't think that's really a thought that's entering into his mind right now.
It's more of like, hey, the symbolism of this is good.
Right.
You do really bad crimes, you go to Alcatraz.
No, I think that makes sense.
And also, America was browbeaten, and we were made to feel guilty, especially through our educational system.
And so he wants these wins that Americans can actually feel like something's being done.
I get it.
Symbolism is a big thing.
I do wonder, though, with Alcatraz, several people escaped and seemed to swim away.
So you'll wonder how effective is it if people...
And only a couple of people, really, ever.
Yeah, but so they were never found.
Never found.
Come on, though.
Like, they probably got away.
San Pablo Bay is very cold and the currents are very strong.
I'd be very surprised.
I don't know.
They're quite motivated.
Yeah, but they're not that good.
But here's the thing, though.
The guys that did that and were never found, we never heard of them again.
So, whether they made it or not, if they made it, they were rehabilitated.
That's true.
They made their dues.
They didn't reoffend.
And that's the ultimate goal, isn't it?
Yeah.
They saved money on their food.
Also, they became world champions at hide-and-seek.
They were very, very good at it.
Wow.
Unbeaten?
Unbeaten.
Bro swimmers, actually.
Yep.
Some people say one of them was actually the father of Phelps.
Yeah.
I made that up.
You can fact check that.
It's okay.
So let's go to this really fast.
I want to cycle through this really quickly because, unfortunately, you know how the internet works.
Poorly.
Very often.
So HR 867 is this, they're calling it the IGO, International Government Organization Anti-Boycott Bill.
And, you know, a meme travels halfway around the world before you can check.
Your DMs or fact check it for the truth.
In this case, this is the Israel legislation that both sides have been completely misrepresenting.
It was also horribly rolled out.
Oh, so bad.
This is what you...
And all references are available.
Link in the description.
A new graphic that went viral here on X, so you may have seen this.
This legislation, according to the graphic, will target people who boycott Israel.
So target people who boycott Israel with fines up to $1 million in prison sentences up to 20 years.
Here's the thing.
That sounds terrible.
I would, of course, be 100% against any type of bill that even remotely resembles that.
That's not what we're actually looking at here.
And I still think a case can be made whether it's good or whether it's bad.
But that graphic is false.
So voting on the bill itself was delayed with Thomas Massey saying, thank you for your vocal opposition on this platform.
It was a ridiculous bill that our leadership should have never scheduled for a vote.
Maybe, but let's go to what this bill actually is.
So key fact number one, bill sponsored by Michael Lawler, Republican from New York, and it is titled the IGO Anti-Boycott Act, which I don't like because just IGO, International Government Organization.
Yes.
It's very broad.
It's very broad.
It's like, okay, well, where?
International.
Could be anywhere.
Okay, what kind of entity?
Government or organization?
Pretty much anything that's an assembly of more than, like, a person.
Two.
If it's two or more, it fits under this umbrella.
So that's my first qualm with it.
But he did say this in January.
He said, I'm proud to introduce the IGO Anti-Boycott Act, a bipartisan effort to protect U.S. citizens, businesses, our allies, particularly Israel, from discriminatory boycotts.
Stop it!
Yeah, exactly.
It's not helpful for these people to tie it to Israel when it's not.
Gerald, you understand.
It's not exclusive to Israel at all.
No, it's not exclusive to Israel at all.
It encompasses everybody.
But this guy's district is heavily Jewish.
And I was told from some people who might know that the rabbi basically gives some direction on some of the voting proclivities for the parishioners, essentially.
And they'll go out and vote based on that.
So this seems to be a virtue signal towards that.
Now, here's the problem.
Every time you put something forward and you specifically isolate Israel in it, when it speaks...
Speaks to a lot of different people.
Nobody hears anything else you say.
They just hear, especially Israel, and done.
They're done.
They're out of it.
They're just fed up with AIPAC and organizations like that right now.
And they're just out.
So this is a horrible rollout.
By the way, with AIPAC, rightfully so.
Rightfully so with AIPAC.
We did a whole segment on this.
AIPAC, the reason that I can't...
Okay, 700,000 or so to Hakeem Jeffrey.
Screw you.
You hate America.
That's it.
I don't care if you're Jewish or Gentile.
AIPAC, you suck.
You're not looking out for the best interests of Americans.
I care about Jews here in America far more than I care about Jews in Israel, and I hope that they personally insert rockets into every single member of Hamas's ass, just to be clear.
We have the rockets.
But we're at a point now where it's like if someone just throws in, it's like this cluster bomb.
It just throws in Jew, and everyone's like, it's like a shark feeding frenzy.
Like, let's just hold on.
Let's take a step back.
So let's go to key fact number two.
Bill amends a 2018 anti-boycott bill act to include, again, international government organizations.
Explain this, Gerald, so people...
And you guys can go check the reference.
Please read up on it.
Just don't be led by the nose by people who are looking to sell you clickbait.
So 2018, Donald Trump.
2018.
Remember, Donald Trump was the president of the United States.
The penalties are exactly the same as it was.
Essentially, it's saying if there's a boycott organized by a foreign nation, right?
So if India right now comes over and says, hey, by the way, we're going to put some pressure on you.
You don't want to buy any Pakistani stuff anymore, right?
You're not going to buy from those guys.
Otherwise, we're going to pull our business from you.
Or they might come over and say, hey, by the way, here's some incentive not to do this.
And the qualifier is to a friendly nation to the United States.
Right.
So essentially, it's to keep...
Anybody can have any opinion they want.
They just can't be paid.
To do it or forced into doing it by the withholding of trade or something like that, right?
Right.
So it actually protects us to a degree.
So the people out there saying that this is something different and saying that it's something that you can't have an opinion are 100% wrong.
Yeah, well, let's just skip three because you covered it.
Sorry, I kind of woven in there.
My bad.
States, businesses, and, of course, individual people, you're free to boycott Israel or any other country, to be clear.
You are completely free to boycott, to organize boycotts against Israel or any other country.
As long as it's not because some kind of an international government organization gave you a directive or an incentive to do so.
Now again, I don't love this term IGO.
I know.
I just, I hate it.
But thank UN.
So thank UN.
Right, no, I know.
And that's what this whole thing is.
It's basically expanding it and saying, oh, and by the way, if the UN or the WF or the E or anybody else tries to put this pressure on a friendly nation.
Because maybe they're helping us with the tariffs.
Maybe they actually are cracking down.
Or maybe it is Israel or something like that, and they're trying to boycott Israel as a world.
They can't force you or incentivize you to do it.
That's all this is.
But when you say it the way that guy said it, nobody cares.
Here's the thing.
There's some merit, you can argue, both sides to this bill.
It has nothing to do with you personally boycotting Israel or the Jews, to be clear.
It's been misrepresented online.
That being said, the people rolling it out in order to pander and virtue signal to their constituency, tying this to Israel rather than being accurate, gave some ammo to people to misrepresent it.
None of this was done well.
This whole thing is just one big giant cluster screw, and it hasn't stopped some Jews from, as a retaliatory action, calling for an all-out goikot, as we unfortunately found out recently in the office.
Oof.
It's gonna be a good day.
Hey Sam, good morning.
Oh my god, that hurts.
What are you doing?
This is a goy-cott.
Sam, I'm half Jewish.
Really?
Yeah, on my mother's side.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, ever since she adopted me.
Half-Breathe.
Half-Breathe.
Guys, it's wrong to hate.
Wow.
Sam's a bit aggressive.
I've always said that, it's wrong to hate.
We have a no-hate policy here in this office.
Someone should call HR on that.
They work their way into everything.
Okay, so President Trump versus Kristen Welker.
Good enough for you, Gerald?
Don't look at me!
Ah, you're white knighting for old Kristen.
I don't think she's that old.
Facts matter, Stephen.
So this happened yesterday.
Donald Trump appeared on Meet the Press.
Okay.
He was obviously a lot of fun, and he was mostly accurate in the interview.
And then, of course, they fact-checked the interview afterwards because they can't expect their journalists to do it in real time.
Now, one thing I will tell you is you can expect the journalists to be petty and to push back.
You just can't expect them to push back with information because then they would be, you know, doing their job.
Here's a quick flashback before we get to fact-checking the fact-checkers.
This is last week.
Welker handed out an award to Alex Thompson of Axios for his stellar reporting.
On uncovering the well-kept secret of Joe Biden's cognitive decline.
The award was established in 1981 to recognize a correspondent who personifies the journalistic excellence and personal qualities of Aldo Beckman.
Impartiality.
Integrity and a deep knowledge of the presidency.
The award also includes a prize of $2,500.
This year's award goes to Alex Thompson of Axios.
For watching the debate.
Yes.
He got $2,500 for saying, hey, this Joe Biden seems like he's getting dumber.
Maybe he's losing his marbles, guys.
Talk about...
The masturbatorial celebration from journalists.
He did the digging, which showed that no government is beyond corruption.
Again, it's not just what information was being presented at that time from one person.
We talked about this with Fauci.
It's what information was available and being discussed from everybody else that you shut out with your appeal to authority fallacy.
We were talking about it when he ran in 2020.
So a journalist gets an award?
For uncovering the scandal that Joe Biden became a dumbass?
Yeah, that $2,500 belongs to Stephen Crowder.
Yes, it belongs to me.
And I want a little chunk of that pie.
Yes, it belongs to every single person in this office or person who watched him run in 2020.
Yes.
But they go, and this journalist did the digging.
Did the digging.
What?
He turned on his television set?
All right.
What, he dig the grave?
So that just sets the stage so you realize, again, it's important to take this into context.
These people are so far gone and so far to the left, there's no chance and there's no semblance of them ever even understanding coming to the center or the other point of view.
Here is just a brief mashup, and we'll get to each individual claim of her interview with President Trump.
It's fun.
When does it become the Trump economy?
It partially is right now.
And I really mean this.
I think the good parts are the Trump economy and the bad parts are the Biden economy.
When you say they could have $3 instead of $30, are you saying Americans could see empty store shelves?
No, I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying they don't need to have $30.
They can have $3.
They don't need to have 250 pencils.
They can have $5.
But you're basically saying there could be some supply shortages because of the tariffs.
We don't have to waste money.
On a trade deficit with China for things we don't need, for junk that we don't need.
Prices are already going up on some popular items, tires, strollers.
This is such a dishonest interview already.
He was, I think, on CNN or MSDNC, but they're both failing networks here.
Happy to know, even though one of them, I guess, is related to you in one form or another, although they're trying to cut them loose as fast as possible.
What do you say to those who believe you are taking the country down an authoritarian path?
Well, there you go again.
Why don't you ask it a different way?
I can't name one Democrat.
I mean, I look at the Democrats.
They're in total disarray.
They have a new person named Crockett.
I watched her speak the other day.
She's definitely a low IQ person.
And they said she's the future of the party.
I said, you have to be kidding.
I don't know what they're going to do.
Biden is the worst thing that ever happened to old people.
LAUGHTER LAUGHTER Stick the landing.
I don't even get the context of that last one.
I like it.
Don't you love how the left does it?
They go, what do you say to people who say that you may be the next Hitler?
They do that.
Yes.
And notice, she doesn't really push back.
If you watch the interview, she doesn't push back that much in a factual way.
That's after the interview.
Then they have an article that goes up fact-checking Donald Trump.
And so they can say, well, he lies so much.
And the fact is, you need to have the folks who are supposed to keep people accountable.
They need to be held accountable.
That brings us to the latest installment of Fact Checking the Fact Checkers.
So, let's first go to what President Trump said in the interview, and then we'll show you their fact check afterwards and fact check them.
It's three steps.
It's like Inception.
Bullshit.
So, Donald Trump said that the United States is seeing record investment into the country.
Are these tariffs permanent, Mr. President?
Depends on what you're talking about.
One of the things that is going to bring and has brought...
So I think we probably have close to $9 trillion of investments coming into this country.
If you look at other presidents, there's never been anything like that.
This is over a period of two months.
You've got to give me a little break on the one month because we're three months.
But, you know, let's say we had to get started.
We had a lot of fake news at the beginning, so we had to beat that down.
Okay.
There you go.
Reasonable.
Here's what NBC said afterward in their fact check.
They said, it's not entirely clear where the nine trillion figure comes from.
Why don't you clarify it?
Oh, the fact checker's job.
I guess they'll just be like, yeah, we don't know.
What purpose do you serve?
Okay, here's the truth.
And all references are available on the website.
The truth.
Give me a sound effect.
You don't have a truth?
Don't you have a truth?
You give me the truth, cool man.
You scared Billy.
And then you, Billy.
Billy, get ready.
I don't want to pull a fast one on you.
The truth.
Very easy to verify.
It's at least $7 trillion.
Fact check!
There you go.
So let me figure it out for you, NBC.
And you know what?
Hey, NBC, you can check our references.
How about that?
It comes from a combination of some investments and some pledges.
So SoftBank, for example, that's $1 trillion.
Project Stargate, $1 trillion.
Some of that may be in overlap.
It's tough to know.
We don't have those numbers.
Apple, $500 billion pledged.
NVIDIA, $500 billion.
IBM, $150 billion.
$150.
It's like, hey, IBM, come on, advisors.
TSMC, $100 billion.
Then you have some commitments from foreign countries.
For example, the UAE, $1.4 trillion in the United States.
Japan, $1 trillion.
Saudi Arabia, $600 billion.
This doesn't include some investments from some businesses out there that, by the way, they're moving to avoid.
These tariffs.
These are just pledges that have been made over a significant period of time in the last 100 days, but some of them were actually pledged before Donald Trump became president.
So the number that we have is at least $7 trillion.
You can bet it's somewhere between $7.5 trillion and $9 trillion.
You want to say he rounded up?
Fine!
But NBC just says, we don't know where this came from.
And by the way, isn't the point that that's a lot of money?
That's a lot of investment into the United States that came simply because Donald Trump became president?
He said, by the way, somewhere around $9 trillion, I think.
He gave himself some room there.
And they're focused on trying to call him out to the decimal instead of going, hey, that's great for this country.
Great job!
They don't want things that are good for this country.
They don't.
Not if it helps Donald Trump.
They're all for it.
If it's Democrat-led, if it's AOC or Bernie or anybody like that.
But if it's Donald Trump-initiated or even gets credit for it, no.
For those of you who are too young to remember, we watched Barack Obama blame George W. Bush into the second term of his presidency when it sucked.
Joe Biden blamed Donald Trump for COVID policy that the Democrats forced through as they kneecapped Republicans.
We heard Obama blame George Bush for the bombings in Yemen.
Yeah.
So for him to say, I think some are from us and some are not.
Yeah, we told you this.
There's a rubber band effect.
Some policies take a while to implement.
Some happen right away.
For example, you provide a tax break to businesses.
Guess what?
They start hiring people right away.
You provide some kind of incentive for businesses to invest?
Oh, guess what?
You get a pledge.
Get a pledge of $1 trillion from SoftBank.
Isn't that great?
You're not going to fix the deficit overnight, even though this is the first person who's actively trying.
And that brings us to the next fact check, what Donald Trump said, that Doge has found $160 billion in waste, fraud, and abuse.
What do you say to those who believe Elon Musk's...
Chainsaw approach has jeopardized the safety and security of Americans.
Well, he found $160 billion worth of fraud, waste and abuse.
I mean, I think he's done an amazing job.
I think his people have done an incredible job.
Your question should be asked a different way.
Were certain things found?
Yes.
How much?
$160 billion.
Think of what $160 billion is.
He found $160 billion.
He said he'd find $2 trillion.
Well, we're not finished yet.
And you bitched when he said it then, and you're bitching now.
And even your stupid little fact check, again, that was written afterwards.
In other words, they had time to do this after the interview.
The jerk store called, right?
That's what they're pulling with their written article.
And they still do nothing.
Here's the claim from NBC, their fact check.
They say, there is no way to fact check that number.
Shut up!
Yes!
There is no way for us to do what this article says we're doing.
And then they go on to say, and Doge is actually costing money.
Oh, now you care about fiscal responsibility.
Okay, here's the truth.
Doge has already published receipts for 30% of their cost-cutting efforts so far.
Fact check!
And they have pledged to release the remaining receipts when the rules and regulations permit it because, as you well know, the left had a conniption fit over the fact that Doge had no right to go in and audit government organizations as a product of government efficiency, which is what Doge exists to do.
Ah, so they're appeasing the left there.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, we'll be more discreet and legal about it.
Yeah, well, exactly.
They're actually holding out, like they said.
Get to the claim that she said that Doge is actually costing money.
So basically the argument that they're trying to make is that it costs money to fire people.
Yeah.
And that we shouldn't do that because it costs money.
Yes, there's a one-time cost associated with firing people.
There's a one-time cost with rooting out corruption and getting rid of it and kind of shoring up that leak.
Do it over 10 years.
Give me the cost savings over 10 years.
Congress, you guys like to do stuff over 10 years when it never actually happens in the first place.
You like to spread those costs out.
Let's look at the cost over 10 years.
That's what they're trying to say.
It's going to cost a little bit of money to clean this up.
About $500 billion in waste and fraud every single year in the government over the last four years.
No, just fraud.
$500 billion, just fraud, not waste.
Just fraud.
We don't know where it goes.
You're starting to cut into that?
You don't think that's a positive thing?
And by the way, you guys bitched that it wasn't costing enough.
Remember you said you didn't think Mr. Big Balls was qualified?
It couldn't be a more frugal government entity, Doge.
They basically brought some computer nerds out from college to look at numbers and say, yeah, this doesn't add up.
Yeah, it sucks.
And you complain, shouldn't they bring in an entire panel?
So they bitch about cost-cutting, and then they bitch about...
It costing something to cost-cut.
But then they also bitch that they're not spending enough on the cost-cutting organization.
You see where I say appeasing crocodiles is futile?
This isn't an argument taking place in good faith.
Let's go to the next fact check from them.
So what Donald Trump said is that illegal aliens have killed and maimed many Americans.
That's pretty simple.
That is.
I bet they can't have a problem with this.
I wouldn't think so.
Mr. President, should lawful residents of this country start carrying paperwork with them when they leave their homes?
I don't think that'll be necessary.
But what you're not saying is that many people have been killed, maimed, badly hurt by illegal immigrants that came over that are from prisons and from jails and from mental institutions.
And they're hurting our people.
And if we don't get them out, we're not going to have a country for long.
Okay, so he made a very specific claim.
Here's another trick that they pull.
With their fact-checking.
Their claim, as though they are fact-checking Donald Trump, there is no evidence of a broad, migrant-driven crime wave in the United States.
Okay.
First off, that's not what he just said there.
And I'm going to address that because, you know, if your daughter is murdered, if your daughter is raped, if your daughter or son is decapitated by someone who had no business being here, was known to have no business being here, and the government did nothing, that's a much harder pill to swallow.
Okay?
That's what he was talking about.
As to their fact check, they say there is no evidence of a broad, migrant-driven crime wave in the United States.
Here's the truth.
The closest thing that we have to a legitimate study, because the left doesn't want to study it, shows that illegal aliens are two to five times more likely to end up in prison.
Excuse me.
Fact check!
Now, the problem is, and the left will throw this out too, they didn't even do this here, but they'll say, actually, immigrants are more law-abiding.
Well, you're talking about legal immigrants.
They throw everything in the same pot, so it's very, very hard to get these studies.
This is a study from 2019 from the Federation for American Immigration Reform.
Okay?
And you can also look at what percentage of the population they make up versus what percentage of the populations in our prison systems, and it is disproportionate.
Two to five times more likely to be in prison.
That's a fact.
And it wasn't even the claim that he was making.
The claim that he was making, which is irrefutable, is that there have been countless crimes committed by illegals.
In many cases, the government knew that they were here, didn't deport them anyway.
These crimes never should have happened.
Hours away from the pre-trial hearing for Victor Martinez Hernandez.
He is the undocumented immigrant accused of murdering Rachel Morin.
A Venezuelan migrant who entered the U.S. illegally and was charged with killing Georgia nursing student Lakin Riley was convicted and sentenced to life in prison.
A man suspected of setting a woman on fire on a New York City subway.
Is facing murder and arson charges.
ICE saying in a statement the man is a Guatemalan citizen who appears to have entered the country illegally.
For a second time.
Harris County District Attorney Kim Ong has announced that her office will suit the death penalty against the two men charged with the murder of Jocelyn Nongarai.
Johan Jose Martinez-Rangel and Franklin Pena, both Venezuelan nationals, are accused of kidnapping, sexually assaulting, and strangling the 12-year-old girl.
A man accused of engaging in a sexual act with a corpse aboard a subway train.
That's right.
Felix Rojas was taken into custody last night.
The 44-year-old is accused of having sexual contact with an unresponsive man aboard an R-train.
Ugh, gay?
Just again, I love how they have to treat it seriously.
Having sexual contact with an unresponsive man.
Like, he had sex with a corpse.
He saw another dude, he thought he was dead.
He's like, well, okay.
Yeah.
I guess it's not rape.
Any hole will do.
And these are not first world crimes that you typically see.
You see them far more in third world countries.
And they're coming here.
This is not the kind of country that should tolerate that.
These are not cultures that can assimilate right now.
And so the parents and the families of those affected...
Fact check that.
Fact check this, NBC.
There are people who had no business being here because the government failed to do their job.
And as a result, American citizens...
We're murdered.
It's not about, okay, it's not about, it is overall the macro issue about the numbers, but in this case, we're making the argument that this is about the government failing to fulfill one of its very few legitimate duties.
In other words, this isn't just a murder that took place in South Central LA where some gangs were firing at each other and there was collateral damage, which is also a tragedy, but that's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about the murder, the crime, the rape.
As a result, Yeah.
for them, anything that has to do with illegal aliens.
He talked about being elected, in part, to get illegal immigrants out.
Yeah.
We'll have judges, they're activist judges, they're saying, well, you know, you don't have the right to take out murderers and people that you don't even want to talk about.
These are really some really bad criminal people, and they're here illegally.
So, you know, they talk about your next question will be due process, but they talk about due process, but do you get due process when you're here illegally?
Your secretary of state says everyone who's here, citizens and non-citizens, deserve due process.
Do you agree?
I don't know.
I'm not a lawyer.
I don't know.
Well, the Fifth Amendment.
I don't know.
It might say that, but if you're talking about that, then we'd have to have a million or two million or three million trials.
We have thousands of people that are some murderers and some drug dealers and some of the worst people on Earth.
Some of the worst, most dangerous people on Earth.
And I was elected to get them the hell out of here, and the courts are holding me from doing it.
What's so great about this next fact check is that he called them out on it before they did it.
He said, you're next.
Well, here's the claim from NBC in their fact check.
They had all the time in the world.
This is the best they could come up with.
Trump is violating due process for illegal aliens like Abrego Garcia.
So they use the argument that he said they would use.
And I want to put this to bed here today because sometimes people get lost in the weeds.
Here's the truth.
Illegal aliens, they're getting exactly the process they are due.
And let me explain to you what this is.
She talks about the Fifth Amendment.
We're talking about the right to a fair and speedy trial.
Okay.
That applies to American citizens.
It is a part of the process.
Illegals not getting a trial, being deported, is a part of the process.
Here's the process.
You have to go to court.
You have to be charged.
You have to go plead your case.
You go, whether it's the police precinct or the courthouse, depending on what you're dealing with at that time.
They check your ID.
Sometimes you have to provide your social security number, right?
They go, oh, okay.
So what is the charge?
All right.
Who is this citizen?
That's the process.
Let me get it in the system.
Oh, wait!
You're not a citizen.
You're here illegally.
Now it's a different process.
Fork in the road.
Legal citizen?
Due process?
Oh!
Well, hold on a second.
You're here illegally.
Your process is gone.
That is the process.
You understand that, correct?
The due process is when you, again, let me repeat this, you get a speeding ticket, you get some kind of a, I don't know, trespassing violation.
You've heard the term booked and processed.
That means confirming that you are who you say you are to see if you're entitled to your fair and speedy trial.
Oh, wait, you're not.
You're not supposed to be here.
Gone.
That's the process.
Make sense?
Comment below.
You guys understand that?
Through said process, it was confirmed that Garcia was a deportable and should be on the fast track deportation aisle.
He was an illegal alien with connections to MS-13 and, of course, had a long list of charges and crimes in his past.
So what the left does is they deliberately conflate it and they go, oh, just like they do with illegal aliens and legal aliens.
They're actually more law-abiding.
No, illegal aliens.
Two to five times.
Let's call it three and a half.
Illegal aliens, 350% more likely to commit crimes, probably higher for violent crimes than native-born citizens.
Legal aliens who've gone through the process, less likely to because they want to stay here.
That makes sense.
You guys understand that?
So the process goes, oh, wait, okay, you're contesting a speeding ticket.
Oh, okay.
Oh, you became a citizen in 2018.
Good for you.
Welcome.
Okay, here's your court date.
Or, oh, wait a second.
Oh, you're an MS-13 gang member who's here illegally?
You're gone.
They conflate the two.
They constantly conflate.
So whenever you hear a leftist make the argument that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes or that ex-immigrant in the story that day is entitled to deport, they are always conflating legal immigrants and illegal immigrants.
And you know who disagrees?
Legal immigrants.
They believe you should have ID to vote.
They believe in deportation.
It's supported.
And secure borders.
Yep.
Overwhelmingly, including Hispanic.
Hispanic legal immigrants.
You guys know this, right?
So when the left is arguing on behalf of, and they say brown people, the brown people are standing, they're thronging them saying, no, no, no, no.
It's over 60% of us who support deporting these people because we don't want them in our neighborhoods.
They don't care about contributing Americans.
And essentially, I want to kind of put something else to bet on the due process thing.
So I just had in my head that the majority of the people that came into this country illegally were seeking asylum.
Because we've heard a whole lot about the asylum claim and backup.
It turns out that number's about 10%.
Right.
That means this is very, very clear.
Due process can be as simple as being deported.
You're not here legally.
Due process has been done.
You get deported.
Done.
That's it.
It doesn't need to be a long, drawn-out thing.
This is not a criminal court.
This is...
What is the court?
There's a specific name for the court.
Sorry, it's right above.
I had a note in here.
Sorry.
It is...
There you go.
Sorry.
It's a deportation...
Civil deportation proceeding.
Sorry, I was trying to get that right.
That's all you need.
Right.
You just need them to say that.
So really, we've got about 15 to 18 million people in this country, according to Donald's Trump number, so I'm going to give you kind of a range.
15 to 18 million people that literally, there is no argument about.
They should go home tomorrow, whether that's visa overstays, people who came to this country illegally.
You should be gone now.
We can talk about the 2 million later.
And that's an important difference to point out, because guess what?
The due process for a citizen is, do you have to pay a ticket?
Do you have to go to prison?
Or no?
Are you innocent?
Deportation is not a punishment if all countries are equal.
It's, "Oh, you're not supposed to be here.
We're sending you back to where you're supposed to be." By the way, hold on.
Look at this.
DHS says it will pay undocumented migrants to leave U.S. A one-way departure ticket and $1,000.
But that's not mean.
That's actually a gift from God saying, listen, you're here illegally.
If we find you, you can never come back.
If you self-deport right now, we'll pay for your plane ticket, and you have an opportunity to try to do this the right way.
How do you call this inhumane?
Also, I had this idea before Trump was even president.
We did a little Photoshop or a little fake ad on this show where I was like, you know what they could do?
It would cost less money if they took every single legal immigrant and then sent them away to the Caribbean for one month at an all-inclusive resort.
Yes.
It would cost less money.
Just give them a check, get out of here.
And by the way, you do have to ask yourself why.
You know the answer, but it's important and it's worth repeating.
15 to 18 million at least, illegal immigrants who either overstayed visas or just crossed the border illegally.
Why is the left...
Why are they so hell-bent on defending them?
Why is the left hell-bent on making a martyr out of an MS-13 member who was simply deported and then, by the way, sent to prison in his home nation for his crimes?
Why is the left arguing on behalf of 15 to 18 million illegal aliens?
Just take that number in its context.
Think that could affect 10,000 votes in Arizona?
I think it could affect 20,000, 30,000 votes in Georgia.
These states that people have often said, oh, they're turning purple.
But are they really?
Some of these states, are they really turning purple?
Or there are a handful, meaning a couple, few million illegal aliens, which is more than enough to tip the scales.
Why are they defending a group of people who are Americans?
It's very rare that you get this significant of a majority of Americans who say, yeah, you know what, they need to go.
We all acknowledge it's a problem.
It's only the left in the media, the DNC, and our institutions like Hollywood and public education that is defending them.
Why?
You can comment below why you think that is.
They'll say it's a conspiracy theory, but it defies logic, and so it really does warrant some examining.
Here's the next one that they fact-checked.
Donald Trump said that we have the best border in the history of our country.
Well, I think we're going to see a lot of results.
We've already seen them on the border.
Best border in the history of our country.
It was 99.999.
And nobody ever thought that was possible.
In fact, Biden, if you remember, said he has to get legislation.
And I said, no, you just need a new president.
And I guess I was right.
We have the best border we've ever had.
So, the fact check from NBC.
Their claim.
That one's true.
They said, using the metric of border crossings and the available data, this statement is true.
Why would you do that?
Ooh, that's got to sting.
And they had all the time in the world, this is the best they could come up with was, that's one for you.
And it sucks because one for him is the reason he was elected.
Yeah.
In other words, people, whether you want to get into anchor babies and dreamers, people said, yeah, we need to secure the border, and most Americans at this point support deportation.
But even before that, secure the border, huge majority of Americans support it.
And he's saying, hey, we have the most secure border that we have had in our lifetime.
And NBC's going, oh, what do we got?
What do we got?
This is the reason people elected him, right?
It's a populist issue.
We're in the 20% there in the 80%.
That's 100% correct.
Yeah.
Well, we can tell everybody that he's doing it unconstitutionally and unethically, but it is the best border.
It is the best border.
By the way, guys.
He's doing it the wrong way, but he's getting it done.
Really quickly, this hurts CNN.
Some communities cancel Cinco de Mayo celebrations out of fear.
Well, good.
How many drunk Mexicans do you need?
Listen, I'm just saying, if the choice is canceling Cinco de Mayo celebrations, which that's another country, by the way, Cinco de Mayo celebrations.
Or having a secure border and not so many illegals?
Fine.
I don't care.
If that is the ramification that Cinco de Mayo can never be celebrated en masse in the United States again, I'm willing to make the trade.
You have nothing other than, oh, heartstrings.
And by the way...
What a baller move to show up at Cinco de Mayo and start checking ID.
Yes.
Yes, happy Cinco de Mayo.
Great.
Let me see your papers.
Yes.
Here we go.
Oh, I guess no more tequila shots.
Cinco de Mayo will be a new celebration for you.
It's a new day.
We found five illegals.
That's Cinco de Mayo.
In our cooler, we have some nice, frothy, cool Negra de Portos.
He's doing great on this.
He needs to do a little bit better.
We need a little bit more, but he's doing great.
Even NBC had to say, all right, that one's true.
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Of course, President Trump, knowing that they were going to fact check him, he actually called it before they did it, was a little more than irritated.
And I actually like that he's a little bit petty.
I like that he doesn't let things go because you can't let things go with this media.
They simply hope that people forget.
Their most recent lie, as they move on to the next lie, Donald Trump knows better, which is why he left the interviewer, Miss Welker, a voicemail later that night.
Please record your message.
Meet the press.
More like meet the jerks.
If you ask me your horrendous questions, ridiculous agenda, frankly, are what make this country worse.
So much worse.
People tell me, everybody says that, and yet here you have a job pushing your ugly lies from your ugly face.
You look like a giant ugly beetroot.
I ask everyone after the interview, I ask them, everyone says, doesn't she look like an ugly beetroot?
They all agreed, except for that one guy who said lilac.
He's gone now.
If he said plum, I could work with plum, but an ugly, horrible plum, your face.
Just not a lilac, those are great.
Frankly, you're not great.
And I hear you're a real c**t.
Again, stuck that landing perfect.
By the way, NBC fact-checked that one true.
This has been fact-checking the fact-checkers.
And for those of you who are not Rumble Premium members, you're going to continue right on to Tim Pool.
You don't need to change that.
What do we call it?
It is a channel.
We're going to be talking about the tariffs on foreign films from President Sean.
Which is a lot of fun, because this guy loves his movies and TV.
He doesn't like his foreign films, though.
No, no one likes foreign films.
There's a trash bag blowing in the wind.
Some French patient.
Do you call that a movie?
Thank you for watching.
I had one guy in film school one time say, there hasn't been a good American film made in the last 50 years.
Really?
What?
He's like, yeah, let me guess.
You're going to start talking to me about Fellini, Cassavetes?
I get it.
Shut up.
People are so...
You know what our biggest export is?
Pop culture.
Has the guy never heard of Michael Bay?
What a loser.
I know.
What a loser.
Put your best foot forward.
is awesome.
Stop it.
You know what I don't get?
Why is Brian De Palma recognized as a good filmmaker?
I don't know.
What is his best film?
Scarface is his most known film, and that's a terrible movie.
It's really bad.
It's awful.
Especially if you watch it now, you're like, what?
It's the worst Cuban accent in the history of cinema.
You had plenty of Cubans to choose from.
Yeah.
I don't know why De Palma, like they used to mention, right, they used to mention Steven Spielberg, you had Spielberg, you had Kubrick, of course you had Coppola, but then somehow De Palma got wedged in there.
Can someone answer me, like, why that's the case?
I mean, it's an iconic film, but it's not a good film.
We were extras in Montreal on that movie Snake Eyes.
Uh-huh.
Which sucked then, and it sucked now.
Was that De Palma as well?
Yeah.
That guy says De Palma, and he would do like 42 takes to the point where the actors were just like, okay, they're now reading their lines mechanically.
He brings out the worst performances from his actors.
My point is, we need a De Palma tariff.
This guy that you were talking about in Canada said there's no good American.
I hate that guy.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
What's his name?
I don't remember his name.
I want to hate him by name.
I'll find out.
It was a graduation party.
And he just wanted to tell me that he knew so much about film and started talking about European films.
And I remember one of them, I said, yeah, what was that about?
He couldn't explain it.
Well, it's in Polish.
He wouldn't understand.
Yeah.
Then he said, well, maybe the one exception is Darren Aronofsky's pie, which is dog crap.
It's dog crap.
I'm telling you, a lot of this is laundering money.
The film industry is rife with fraud.
Have you guys watched Pi?
You guys watched Pi?
Requiem for a Dream also sucks.
This is the guy who later on, he made Noah with the rock people.
Oh my gosh.
He made that?
Yeah.
And the fountain?
I'm done.
He's retarded.
You're an asshole!
Alright.
So President Trump announced that he wants to put a 100% tariff.
On films that are produced outside of the USA, but his reasoning, if you haven't looked into it, is pretty sound.
The movie tariffs.
Yeah.
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