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June 6, 2024 - Louder with Crowder

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Dictator Dic-Off Evil 8: Crowning the Most Hardened Criminal in History

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	Welcome to this day two of our Great Dictator Dickoff competition.
	We're down to our final eight.
	You can still place your bets on the remaining eight at DraftDictators.com.
	Of course, the official bookkeeper of dictator competitions.
	We are going to get to our final eight bracket, narrow it down to four, two, and declare the winner of the greatest or worst, depending on how you look at it, hopefully worst, dictator of all time.
	Let's get to day two of the Great Dictator Dick Off.
	So with me today, before we get to the brackets, we have of course, Lane Gingersnap, head researcher
	here at Latter Earth Crowder.
	On audio, they can't hear you.
	You have to say hi.
	Oh, hello.
	And if you move the mic closer.
	Yeah, it helps if you talk.
	Really, there's a chair here.
	Oh, you know what, it's because of the thing, the prong, the wrong spot.
	And I'm sure you know by now, he ruins everything, but he's here today and day two is Captain Morgan.
	We're talking about dictators and I ruin everything?
	Well, you rule the office finances with an iron fist.
	Oh, that's true.
	I'll take some notes.
	That's why we call, you don't even know, but when you're not around the office, you don't even know what people call you.
	He doesn't need to.
	You seemed like you were about to tell me.
	I wasn't going to tell you.
	The penetrator.
	What?
	Actually, we have... That's kind of a compliment.
	And of course, because of our legal obligations, from HR, Sam is here.
	Hi, Stephen.
	You'll notice that I'm going to have to write myself up because I'm wearing my Jewish garb here, but I wanted to make myself loud and proud today because Herr Scheisskopf, I think, is going to be back today.
	You know, there's a lot of antagonism in the office.
	Is that what it is?
	I thought it was a Meyer Lansky lookalike competition.
	It is not, no.
	No?
	Okay, well you win.
	So, uh, to bring... And of course you know that we had to eliminate from the brackets, because let's just be really clear, Tool Man, of course, would be unfair to include him.
	Hitler, bad, horrible, right?
	So Hitler is the worst dictator of all time.
	There's no one who even comes close to Hitler, and I swear that I won't even insinuate that anyone here is as bad as Hitler.
	It's true.
	Hitler's awful, Hitler bad, yep.
	No one even comes close.
	So we didn't think it would be fair to use him in the Great Dictator Dick Duff.
	Dick Duff, I'm sorry.
	It's difficult being this childish consistently.
	And we do, however, have... What was that?
	I don't have my headphones on.
	Oh, he's not competing.
	No, he's not competing, but we do have him as a measuring stick.
	So we actually compare these horrible dictators on our Hitler scale, as you saw us use yesterday.
	So we rate them on a scale from one to, I mean, numerous Hitlers.
	We really haven't put a cap on it.
	Here to present the final eight is actually the Fuhrer himself.
	We have him in studio on retainer, uh, Adolf Hitler.
	Yes, you're back.
	Yes.
	Oh boy.
	Did you hear that he's proud?
	Yeah.
	He's Jewish and gay!
	That's a double suicide!
	You're lucky you took the day off.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	Day one.
	So our final eight, let's just show these really quickly.
	You can show them as we have the Ayatollah, right, we've narrowed it down.
	To the Ayatollah, who's going to be going up against Mao.
	Stalin is up against Saddam Hussein.
	Pol Pot, I think, is, you know, the favorite here at this point.
	Up against Castro.
	Kim Jong-il up against Papadok.
	And Papa Doc is the dark horse, right?
	Literally and figuratively.
	He's like a 16 seed, right?
	I think the odds now at draftdictators.com have him at a minus 900 underdog?
	Is that what it is?
	That's what we ended up at yesterday.
	I don't think the lines have moved today.
	I don't think the lines have moved because we just started the program.
	So, those are the final eight brackets.
	We're going to narrow this down pretty quickly to the final four.
	I guess beforehand, do you have someone who you're betting on?
	Of these two people?
	Or overall?
	Overall, I've got to go with Pol Pot, I think.
	Pol Pot?
	Yeah.
	He killed a lot of people.
	He did kill a lot of people.
	As a percentage, it is the highest.
	It is the highest of the population actually visited the country, so I have some insight on the Pol Pot.
	Well, you just had to mention it, didn't you?
	I did, yeah.
	I went.
	See this?
	Yeah.
	Sounds pretty angry.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I would do something about it.
	Well, yeah, I know you... I don't... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, No, he wasn't technically Catholic.
	He was a Catholic adjacent.
	Hold on a second.
	Do you hear that?
	It's the sound of us just losing our Walther sponsorship.
	All I know is we're number ein.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	I don't know what that means.
	Ayatollah, of course, versus Mao.
	But overall, you say Pol Pot Lane?
	Yeah.
	Ginger Snap?
	I, Mao is the one I'm riding with here.
	Mao?
	Well, because I just like to imagine what Mao could not like to imagine.
	Geez.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	If one were to imagine what he would have done in Pol Pot's position, I think Cambodia might not exist as an entity at all today.
	That's, that's probably true.
	But you could also say that about the Viet Cong with Pol Pot, kind of created the atmosphere of Pol Pot, but we don't have any Viet Cong here.
	That we know of.
	Fair.
	That's true.
	We don't know.
	It could be Viet Cong adjacent, and Sam, you can't bet.
	You're precluded from betting.
	I am not taking part in this whole thing there.
	Well, that's OK, good, because we're not going to let you bet anyway.
	It was our choice, not yours.
	The Ayatollah and Mao.
	Let me just give you a couple.
	We're going to cycle through these pretty quickly.
	We went through this yesterday.
	Of course, all the references are available at lottowithcredit.com.
	This was inspired by the fact that a lot of young people, they know about the Führer, but they don't know about the rest of these dictators.
	I didn't learn about them in school.
	We kind of skimmed over Stalin.
	But Adolf Hitler left his mark, a bad one.
	It's a good mark.
	No, bad.
	Yeah, it's bad.
	Hitler bad, just to be clear.
	And we wanted to ensure that everyone was able to educate themselves.
	So I do encourage you to go peruse the references.
	The Ayatollah, this person, of course, Awful.
	Here we do, actually.
	We do have just a quick clip, because we pulled these up.
	Here's the Ayatollah, actually.
	It's a video, I think.
	Sam from HR knows us.
	That's right.
	He was in charge of the state without actually, the interesting fact about the Ayatollah, without actually being a government official.
	Let's roll the clip, Supreme.
	What is your own role in this government that is to come?
	I would not have any position in the future government as such, being the president or a prime minister.
	And my job is not to be a satch.
	I will be some sort of supervising their activities.
	I will give them guidance.
	And if I see some deviation or some mistake, I will remind them how to correct it, give the general guidance.
	You would be, in effect, the strong man of Iran.
	In other words, you would be the strong man of Iran.
	Assume it this way.
	I assume it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I think they had chairs in 1979 or a couch.
	Why are they all sitting on the floor?
	Also, they're using that term strongman very loosely.
	Very, very loosely.
	Well, unless you're a woman in a hijab, then he was very strong.
	That's true.
	His right hand was exceptionally strong.
	He gots to keep your Ayatollah hand strong!
	Ayatollah ain't easy!
	Alright.
	I don't think that's a thing.
	We're going to go quickly narrow this down to the four because we want to get a little more granular.
	Between the Ayatollah and Mao, certainly down to our final four bracket is going to be Mao.
	For sure.
	Can't really argue with that one.
	Nope.
	Adolph, let's put Mao in the final bracket.
	Or Ayatollah.
	I don't know about that.
	You hated communists, didn't you?
	You did.
	You know, but the whole enemy of my- Kind of a mutual respect.
	Yeah, kind of a mutual respect, you know, admiration.
	Also, I mean, the Fuhrer is horrible as he is.
	Hitler bad.
	Hitler bad, right?
	We all know Hitler bad.
	Hitler bad.
	What?
	But he has earned his theme song.
	Bad.
	Alright, next portion of this bracket we have Stalin and Saddam Hussein.
	We have Joseph Stalin and Saddam Hussein.
	We talked about this again yesterday.
	Stalin!
	Alright.
	Well, you know what, really quickly, since we're knocking out, we know we're going to knock out Saddam Hussein.
	Well, hold on.
	Give him his due.
	He did kill his own countrymen with mustard gas, I believe.
	He did.
	Was it mustard gas or was it just a chemical?
	I don't know exactly the component.
	It was a chemical attack on his own people.
	I mean, that does put him in a category, I think, by himself other than maybe Assad now.
	Yes.
	But, Saddam Hussein, some quick fast facts.
	Let's see, what do we have here?
	Oh, yeah, that's right, he did have a massive car collection, and he was famous for smoking a cigar during this... is it Bath Party?
	Who's Bath?
	This guy sounds so cool!
	He's not cool.
	And this is kind of one of the famous clips, if you haven't seen this of Saddam Hussein, he did this sitting there smoking a cigar while purging Iraq of his political opponents.
	Here's a clip.
	Here's the thing, everything about him is terrible except the fact that he's smoking, which looks really cool.
	79 was a rough year for the region.
	It really was, yeah.
	It was struggling.
	You know, Hitler, why are you so pro-smoking?
	You didn't smoke any hell.
	No, I will not.
	Propagandist.
	I know.
	Yeah, look, hey, come on.
	You guys, we'll have you take it outside afterwards, and we've already placed bets.
	We already know how it goes, though.
	So, let's put through to the final four.
	I think we all agree here it's going to be Joseph Stalin.
	One of the highest, the highest total, arguably, second highest total death count.
	Mein Führer, put Joseph Stalin in the final four.
	I don't want to say I'm noticing a trend, but I'm starting to notice a trend.
	What's your trend?
	What's the implication?
	The permeating ideology that seems to come out on the whole country.
	Oh yeah, that's true.
	Alright, that is true.
	A lot of people don't know that, because I don't know if you know this, fascism is inherently right-wing, according to Google.
	Apparently.
	And Merriam-Webster.
	Yeah.
	I'm also noticing like a starving a lot of your population to death trend.
	A lot of their death count comes from that, so.
	Yeah.
	Well, they couldn't know.
	That's the thing.
	I think they could.
	Yeah, well, they should have guessed.
	Should have been able to figure it out.
	Not killing all the teachers is probably an interesting place to start.
	That's a good one.
	That's a good one, too.
	Or the farmers.
	Yeah.
	That's great.
	Or the doctors.
	Or, brings us to the next bracket.
	We have Pol Pot and Fidel Castro.
	Oh, this is a walk-off.
	Was it like a 16 versus a one seed or what?
	Well I think we just kind of, again we're narrowing it down to the final four, but you know you saw Saddam smoking a cigar and then of course you have Fidel Castro, he liked his cigars, but Pol Pot didn't just execute intellectuals, Pol Pot executed people who wore glasses.
	Well that's interesting.
	Yeah, because... Put him back on!
	Okay.
	Thank you, he looks so handsome.
	I don't know, well... You're still bad though.
	And gay now?
	No, no, I'm not entirely sure.
	No, no, no, Adolf, come on.
	There'll be time for this later.
	Why's the hat gone?
	Too hot?
	It's getting hot in here.
	Okay, alright, it's getting hot.
	So take off all your clothes.
	What clip do we have here?
	Okay, because we know who's going to be moving on, so, since he will not be moving on, and one thing I will say, though, Fidel Castro, we're going to connect these final four to issues that may apply today, you know, that you may be seeing kind of permeating culture today because the ideologies never die, right?
	These people die, but the ideologies live on.
	I mean, you can even look at the results with Joseph Stalin.
	You can look at the ideas of Marx.
	I mean, he was kind of, right, he kind of was a contemporary of Trotsky.
	But we do notice communism existing there, but the ideas, for example, of Fidel Castro, let's not be mistaken here.
	You had Michael Moore say that Cuba had better healthcare than the United States in the 2000s, right, where he went there, and he doesn't show you the fact that it's basically a Blazin' Saddles fake town, and the people who actually need healthcare can't get it, but a few people in the hospitals, that they kind of keep as show hospitals for the United States.
	Fidel Castro ruled his people through what? Through fear.
	This is what leftists use.
	They'll try and say that the right does that. I don't know if you know this, it's hard to rule people through fear
	when you allow them more First Amendment rights and more Second Amendment rights.
	Also something else I'm noticing, not a lot of these fascists, these dictators,
	not a lot of them permitting their citizens to remain freely armed.
	Why would you?
	You have to take the guns from the people, otherwise they won't get on the train.
	Yeah, that's an awful way to put it, but I understand why that would be your perspective.
	And it's also like taking a gift from God and slapping him in the face.
	You think about Cuba, we talked about the cigars.
	Think about the weather, the soil.
	They don't need humidors in Cuba.
	It's the perfect climate, perfect humidity, and it's a hellscape.
	Compare that to California.
	Same.
	Yeah, same thing.
	They take beautiful places and they really screw it up.
	You've got to work really, really hard.
	So it's not one of those situations where it's like, well, hey, look, it's the luck of the draw.
	It was a time in history.
	You do see a through line here where a lot of them were starting off on, you know, on third base.
	Yeah.
	Well, and look, I don't want to... Pol Pot's obviously going to win this and move on.
	Yes, of course.
	And I understand that.
	But Fidel Castro isn't going to lose for lack of effort.
	No.
	He tried really hard and was a really terrible person.
	He just had some limited abilities.
	Being on an island will do that.
	Yes.
	And I would even say that Che Guevara, worse than Castro, obviously wasn't an official dictator, but what he wanted for Cuba, what he wanted to see in the modern world, is as evil as any dictator here.
	Picture Adolf Hitler, who's bad, who's terrible, who's honestly clearly very bad.
	Every time.
	You're a bad dude.
	All right, just get used to it.
	Without the, some would call it, charm.
	And I know, I know that's hard to believe, but if you can believe it, Che Guevara was less charming than Adolf Hitler, despite Tom Morello putting him on a t-shirt.
	Baseball fan, Fidel Castro, fast fact.
	Here he is in 2010 at a Venezuela vs. Cuba game with Hugo Chavez and I'm surpri-
	The players, by the way, starving.
	It really is.
	It's Liam Neeson.
	By the way, of course, fast fact, you may not know this, Justin Trudeau's father.
	So, the winner... I'll play something.
	Sure.
	Winner here, clearly a walk-off, going into our final four, Pol Pot.
	It's a winner.
	There you go, Adolph.
	Auf Wiedersehen!
	Where's his theme song?
	He's earned it.
	Play the song!
	Fine.
	You know what I will say, for all of my criticisms of Adolf Hitler, he was punctual.
	Except for D-Day.
	Very, uh, not punctual.
	Very tardy.
	Someone say that was fashionably late.
	It was all part of my plan.
	Oh yeah, sure it was.
	It was a pre-emptive tardiness.
	Yes, you plan to lose?
	It's a long game.
	Well, how long, Mr. Third Reich?
	You will see.
	Okay.
	I think he's just going to have a comeback every time I say something.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	I mean, look, it's really tough.
	You're sitting in a straight down center plane.
	It's hard to argue with a dead man.
	To Adolf Hitler.
	I'm the Fuhrer, you are the failure!
	I don't think that's true.
	You have no right.
	All right.
	Kim Jong-il versus Papa Doc.
	We're going to narrow this down.
	Oh boy.
	I'm not going to lie to you.
	Clearly, Papa Doc is going to move on.
	Fix is in.
	Yeah, but not the fix is in.
	I just think Papa Doc's hilarious and a very good lesson in how people can be manipulated by someone who's not even really that effective.
	Did he shoot a negative 38 in an 18-hole golf course?
	He could have.
	He looks like some guy from Police Academy.
	I don't know what that technically means.
	You mean with the sound effects?
	Yeah.
	So Kim Jong-il obviously is going to be, he's going to be knocked out here.
	The great Dick Tuft.
	Again, all references available at LotOfCar.com.
	Link in the sidebar.
	Of course, none of this happens without you, MugClub.
	Look, took a risk with these two.
	Hopefully it works out.
	I have absolutely no idea.
	This could be two days of we wish it didn't happen.
	Kim Jong-il.
	I remember I actually was no longer welcome at a show at a network where I worked because the day that Kim Jong-il died and they showed all of the people crying, I said something to the effect of, I think the entire nation deserves a Razzie, and if you're going to force people to lie on camera, get a nation that can act.
	Not my finest joke.
	I think it's pretty good.
	I don't, I still, you know, I stand by the sentiment.
	Yeah.
	Um, and they got a lot of angry letters, I guess.
	And then they asked me on air how to solve the North Korea problem.
	I wasn't ready for that.
	I said, I don't know, like nuke them?
	To which they said?
	They were like, well, we're not having you back.
	I was like, well, I don't know.
	You expect me to solve this crisis now?
	Which problem?
	Could you be more specific?
	Yeah, which problem?
	What do you want me to do?
	I mean, I don't like them, but they're not really a threat.
	I don't wake up in a cold sweat.
	So, here actually is the day, or the week, or within 48 hours of Kim dying.
	This was December 2011.
	And for a deity, you know, he was taken out by a heart attack.
	Which, if he were not a deity, and I looked at him, I would say, like, oh yeah, that guy's gonna have a heart attack.
	I don't know the rules for immortals.
	So, apparently something's wrong with that.
	I didn't know cholesterol was the one thing that would get him.
	It's like they're kryptonite.
	Okay.
	Is it cholesterol?
	Celestial.
	Yeah, sure.
	Thanks Hitler.
	And you know what?
	The crazy thing is, apparently his good cholesterol was Also high, HDL.
	Highest levels they've ever seen.
	What we know about cholesterol, I don't know anymore.
	So, I don't know.
	Do whatever you think is best.
	Listen to your doctor.
	I am not one of them.
	Here are the transpiring events after he died, and see if you side with 2011 Stephen, who thought the entire nation deserved a Razzie, because I thought, at the time, and still do, that it was funny.
	You know when one cries like that, I bet there's a cultural difference.
	Oh, you're stupid, Kim!
	You guys are dead!
	You're dead!
	You son of a bitch!
	You know when one cries like that?
	I get there's a cultural difference.
	Oh you stupid Kim!
	Why?
	The leader is dead!
	The leader is dead!
	Oh, come on.
	Stupid Koreans.
	Oh, right.
	Really what they respond is, Stephen, those are crisis actors.
	That is not real people at all there.
	No, those are not.
	We want to hide the fact that Kim Jong Il was vaxxed.
	He was vaxxed, Stephen.
	It was myocarditis.
	No, this is all very insensitive.
	Everyone is grieving and they're free to grieve in their own way.
	I mean, this is just... Shut up.
	What did you say?
	That was the cattiest bilingual insult I've ever heard.
	I don't even know what it was.
	It said shut up twice.
	Oh, okay.
	It sounds worse than that language.
	Yeah, it's a very harsh- Which language was that?
	It was Korean.
	Oh, really?
	South dialect.
	Oh, okay.
	So they wouldn't recognize you as speaking their language.
	I barely understand a word that they- Would they understand you in North Korea?
	Probably not.
	I was at the North Korean restaurant in Bangkok, and there was a family from South Korea... Wait, hold on a second.
	You were in Bangkok?
	Yeah.
	To be clear, for those who don't know, this is Siam, and... Thailand?
	There was a North Korea restaurant?
	So the North Korean government operates, like, cultural outreach restaurants in a few countries in Asia, and one of them is in...
	And everybody that works there has to visit.
	Hold on, what's on the menu?
	Bugs?
	No, it's really, like, the highest quality.
	It's very, very good food.
	Really?
	Because they're trying, they're spending a lot of money to make people think North Korea's actually not that bad.
	Yeah, but they don't have any of that.
	It's like duty-free dumplings.
	Pyongyang has a lot.
	But listening to the South Korean family try to order from the North Korean waitress, the kids couldn't do it.
	The grandpa was the only one that could do it because the language has changed so much.
	Wow.
	Well, it's like the Tower of Babel.
	It is.
	I guess.
	Shorter.
	Well, I'm sorry, you're not going to like this, but Kim Jong-il is not making it through just because Papadak, funniest of the dictators.
	Come on.
	Papadak is going on to our final four.
	And I'm hearing from DraftDictators.com that now he's only a plus 700 favorite.
	So you can still place your bets right now.
	It could be easy money.
	Just put 100 down.
	DraftDictators.com, the official bookkeeper of the great Dick Off.
	Adolf, let's put in that final bracket.
	Let's knock out Kim Jong-il.
	Papadak.
	That's a hell of a Final Four we got.
	It is.
	Yeah, one thing is not like the others.
	What?
	That's racist.
	Yeah.
	No!
	Yeah, that's kind of racist, dude.
	I don't want to side with- I don't stand for that kind of behavior.
	Yesterday we were pretty- we were on a straight ship and now we get him in here just throwing racial insults around?
	It wasn't- it wasn't the race thing.
	We were better off with Nick DiPaolo.
	That is saying something about me.
	Did you see this?
	I need to reflect.
	I know- well, look.
	Aw, they were so young.
	So full of life!
	And hatred!
	You know, I'm really glad we put him on retainer because without, of course, Hitler bad, but without him on retainer for these installments, I don't think any of this works.
	No, you're right.
	Definitely need dead Hitler.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	But he's alive.
	Well, in our- In the center of the universe.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	He can- Here's the thing.
	Hitler may be dead, but you can keep him alive in your hearts.
	If you choose.
	Now- Can I ask a question?
	I don't know.
	Why is the Jew- That's why I don't know if you can ask the question.
	Although, now I'm intrigued.
	Is this a joke?
	Why is it you didn't dress like that?
	He looks like a detective who just solves a case that they're not the chosen ones.
	Okay.
	So I will tell you a little story about this.
	Please don't.
	I'm sorry I asked.
	Oh, you will be sorry, Herr Hitler.
	We already are.
	So, you know, with a lot of Orthodox Jews, the hats denote what religious movement you're in.
	And if you wear the wrong hat, it's like wearing blue into blood's territory.
	But all of the Jews are united against Dreckfressers like you.
	So if you walk into my hood, we're gonna F you up.
	Yeah, okay.
	I see your tattoo as a door.
	I will be talking to you after this is over.
	Whatever.
	I don't like any of this.
	This seems like something is wrong.
	I can't put my finger on it.
	It does, but you know what?
	We do this without a net.
	Alright, let's go through our final four.
	By the way, least intimidating threat ever.
	Yes.
	If you walk into my hood, buddy.
	Yeah.
	That was very Ron DeSantis.
	Well, I had to combine the two.
	Don't wear sideburns.
	Don't wear yarmulkes.
	Just stay neutral.
	He needs to stay out of Boca Raton. Yeah. I'm shaking in my little hose. Yes.
	Well, there you go.
	The rough streets of the Boynton Beach Club.
	Feeling a little gassy, Hitler?
	So, Mao, we're going to go through this here, and obviously we did the... it kind of got away from us in yesterday's installment, because there's a lot of information on all these dictators, and I do think that you should be familiar with all of them, because understanding history, of course, is one of the Most effective ways to avoid repeating it, which is why we tear down statues now and erase books and rewrite them.
	I don't know if you know this, the United States, you can actually see it through our whole bracket, not the first place to instate slavery and still goes on.
	Over 40 million slaves across the world today because the spirit of fascism, communism, collectivism, dictators, still lives on.
	So, hey, if you want to do some good in the world, educate yourself.
	There's still some good that you can do.
	I don't know why that's funny.
	I hear people laughing.
	I don't.
	That's okay.
	That's fine.
	That might be you.
	There's nothing funny about it.
	It's a good way to raise your economy.
	I'm just saying, if you want to feel for the plight of people, you could look at Africa, literally anywhere in the middle of the country, and see Christians getting slaughtered by the thousands, or the wrong sect of Muslims being... You're getting Hitler too excited.
	Yeah.
	So, maybe just stop with the fear.
	And I don't think we talk about that because Africa hasn't figured out.
	They do.
	If you were aliens to land on planet Earth today, and you were to look at it on a 3D, you would say, oh, let's go to Africa and let's pick their brains.
	No, I saw Black Panther.
	I mean the leaders, by the way, not the people of Africa.
	And it doesn't apply to white farmers in South Africa.
	No, because you know who kills when they come here?
	Nigerian-Americans.
	They're great, so it's clearly not the people, it's not a DNA thing, so it's a stupid argument.
	It's a terrible system.
	Oh, I thought you meant literally kill.
	I was lost for a second.
	No, like they crush it.
	That's the Haitians, which will bring us back to Papadoc.
	Haitian-Americans.
	Everything starts and ends with Papadoc.
	Everything starts and ends with Papadoc.
	It really does.
	He is the Alpha and the Omega.
	It's not sacrilegious, but whatever.
	Yeah, no, I don't mean it, of course, but I think he's hilarious.
	So, Mao, now that we're down to the final four, we can spend a little bit more time.
	You know the death count if you paid attention yesterday.
	It's up to 60 million, correct, Gingersnap?
	Yeah, and you can get up to 60 million.
	People say 40 million.
	It's high enough where a lot of people died.
	Tens of millions of people should be enough.
	Yeah, I think.
	And we'll go through the wars that he started.
	The wives that he had is pretty interesting.
	Sort of, I guess, the foundation that he laid for a lot of leftists here today.
	And it still lives on, by the way.
	And I don't mean super far back.
	We'll show you some politicians who still, to this day, people who are active, who were actively inspired by Mao.
	They say they look to Mao for inspiration.
	This is still a real thing.
	And that can only be done under this cloak of darkness, where they hope that you don't really
	know a whole lot about Mao. And unfortunately, a lot of people under 30 don't. So wars that Mao
	was involved with, he supported the, well, obviously North Korea in the Korean War. He
	committed 250,000 volunteers to that war. Human sheep.
	Not volunteers.
	No. He sent them in, right, without shoes.
	None of them raced there.
	Barefoot quite frequently into the North Korean winter. It was a very enjoyable experience.
	And I should say, before we get to shoes, obviously no guns for a lot of them. They
	just went in. They were pretty much just going in the way.
	Just run that way.
	And you often don't realize this because we're so disconnected from evil in our modern day life.
	Like, you watch a film like Braveheart, it reminds me of Longshanks, where he says, fire the arrows!
	And he says, but sir, won't we hit our own troops?
	He goes, yes, but we'll hit theirs as well.
	You're like, oh wow, no one's that bad.
	They have to make you root for William Wallace.
	That's exactly what Mao did to the tune of 250,000.
	Let alone the tens of millions of people dead.
	What else do we have?
	Oh, we actually do have a clip here, I believe, Dinger Snap.
	He, of course, helped instigate the 1969 border clash with the Soviet Union.
	This was Zimbabwe Island, if you don't remember this, in the Ussuri River.
	Here's a clip.
	On March 2, 1969, a group of Chinese troops ambushed Soviet border guards on Zhenbao Island, resulting in heavy losses on both sides.
	While both sides have blamed each other for the start of the conflict, a consensus has emerged that the border crisis was a premeditated act of aggression orchestrated by the Chinese.
	Interesting fact about that conflict is...
	The Chinese soldiers, with the Russians, to try and, you know, get them mad, they would moon them.
	To which the Russian soldiers would laugh, and they would taunt the Chinese soldiers simply with portraits of Mao.
	Use Mao against Mao.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, they're like, he has my ass!
	And like, here's your leader!
	Joke's on you!
	You can say he has ass face!
	And then they got really pissed off and about 70 people on each side died.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I mean, that part's not funny.
	That part's not funny.
	Well, I mean, if you start out mooning and then people die... It is funny if your last words are, look at my ass!
	And then you get hit by a shell or something like that.
	It's written on your tombstone as final words.
	Mao did have some balls though to instigate that war knowing full well that the Soviets had nukes
	that they were more than willing to use because they said we are more than willing to use these.
	Sometimes you have to roll the dice.
	How do we start?
	I don't know, moon?
	Show them your ass!
	See what happens!
	If they don't nuke, we move forward!
	If they show you a picture, I'll beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee What?
	I'm sorry.
	Start off by mooning?
	I thought that was just something, again, going back to Braveheart, that we saw the Scottish do, which I thought was pretty hilarious.
	Yeah.
	Until that one guy got shot in the butt cheek with the arrow, and I was like, ooh, that was a bad idea.
	Maybe get some cover first.
	But gosh, this one actually started that way.
	I love it.
	It's always surprising to me that they're surprised by the arrows.
	Like, that's the first thing that's coming you would imagine back then on the battlefield.
	It's like, okay, if we have to place a bet, what do we think is coming our way first?
	Arrows.
	Every single time it's arrows.
	Yeah, from distance, arrows.
	It's the only thing they have.
	Moon them and don't face your opponent for a while.
	See what happens.
	Yeah.
	It's even worse than when you have ballistic guns and stuff.
	It's like, all right, so he's moving me.
	Well, the good news is a lot of the Chinese soldiers did not.
	So something else that he established was the Ministry of State Security, right?
	Basically a secret police.
	And this is something that you still see pretty much in every country, right?
	You have covert operatives.
	So I don't necessarily want to condemn them for something that is done here in the United States to varying degrees.
	Interesting fact about Mao, he had several wives.
	So Ginger Snap, I'll need you to help me with this. First one is Yang Kaiwei.
	Yeah, that's closest.
	Three children. And I guess this person was tortured and executed by Chinese nationalists?
	That's a way to go. Then, He Zizhen. First name He.
	Yeah.
	He.
	He Ji Zhen.
	He.
	Yeah.
	Uh, six children, uh, had with her.
	And then, uh, this, uh, woman sustained shrapnel wounds on the Long March.
	What's the Long March?
	Oh, that's... Long March?
	It's when the...
	No, no, Hitler, please sit down.
	Yeah, we know you can march.
	We got it.
	It's one of your strongest uniforms.
	But Hitler bad, to be clear.
	Hitler bad.
	Good marchers.
	He's good at marching.
	Yes.
	Yeah, for sure.
	But what is it?
	The long march is when the commies were fighting the Chinese nationalists.
	So Mao versus Chiang Kai-shek.
	And they were in southeastern China and they marched way up north out of the mountain.
	And she died.
	Yeah.
	It was their comeback.
	It was kind of the comeback of the commies, if you will.
	Well, then he also had another wife, Xiang King.
	We don't need to go through all of these.
	She's a Kang.
	Xiang King.
	And then Zhang Yufeng, who, by the way, was a drink server on Mao's private train.
	And it wasn't even liquor.
	Little Horn Dog.
	It was just tea.
	Wow.
	Well, what kind of tea?
	That tea from Zoolander.
	Is that what it was?
	Yeah.
	Ten kids.
	I don't know which one is most notable here, but we'll provide all these references so that you can kind of go down the rabbit hole.
	It's fun.
	If you're looking for something to do tonight, you'll see all these links and you can read about all of his ten screw-ups.
	I wonder if ever any of those teenagers talked back to their dad.
	Oh, no.
	It's Mao.
	No, I wish I was never born, Dad.
	Well, I can take care of that, son.
	Have you heard the abandoned child mountain?
	We have that.
	Mao was also not the best dad.
	He allegedly abandoned three of his children during the Chinese Civil War.
	So him and Papa Doc had something in common.
	Yeah, I mean at this point, what the hell's the difference?
	Might as well just put it all on the table.
	This is something that's pretty interesting, right?
	The Cultural Revolution.
	You'll hear about this a lot, and you'll hear about this and you'll talk about it on the left, certainly on college campuses.
	But they don't tell you what the Cultural Revolution was, and it's the foundation for a lot of modern leftist ideology, including what you learn in school.
	This is why, actually, we do have a clip.
	Anita Dunn, who was in the Obama administration, I can't remember her exact relation, we'll have it there in a lower third, has been a huge part of the DNC for a while.
	And here she is saying that when looking for inspiration, she turns to great leaders in the past and she mentions, and then you go, wait, was that Mao?
	Yeah, that's what she says.
	And the third lesson and tip actually come from two of my favorite political philosophers.
	Well, there you have it.
	Some would say that's horrifying.
	That's a bad thing.
	She's currently serving as senior advisor in the Biden administration.
	Oh, so she's not done yet.
	Sorry, that was a really bad pun.
	I didn't mean it.
	When they ask Donald Trump, for example, and this is the problem, there's no accountability for the left in a lot of ways. And you'll notice this trend
	with these dictators. Pretty much all of them lean left. And even those who would maybe be
	considered more right-wing, it's really just because they were enemies of communists at that point in
	time. They certainly weren't for limited government and a more free and armed citizenry. What you
	see here is a lack of accountability No one can ask Anita Dunn, they can ask President Donald Trump, hey, will you condemn white supremacists and neo-Nazis?
	Which he did, right?
	You have that, you guys have seen the clip.
	He said, I'm not talking about neo-Nazis and racists who should be condemned totally, okay?
	Have we gotten that out of the way?
	He went on for, I'm done with that, right?
	I've condemned them.
	Don't like Nazis.
	Don't say I like Nazis.
	Are you gonna clip this?
	They're gonna clip this.
	Holy hell.
	And then, Anita Dunn, who serves as an advisor in the former Vice President Biden's administration.
	No one will ask her, hey, you know, you know that one of the worst genocidal maniacs of all time who you look to for inspiration?
	You sure about those five minutes?
	Shouldn't it come up?
	Somebody should have asked him, like, well, hold on.
	You just made a reference to Mao.
	Do you know that Mao killed maybe 60 million people and did some very, very bad things to his own children?
	Like, this is not somebody you should be looking to for any kind of inspiration.
	Because it's in the same breath.
	Like, anytime you mention Hitler, right, this question gets asked.
	Rightfully so.
	Right?
	Right?
	Hitler bad.
	We've all talked.
	I'm sorry, but, you know, I'm not sorry.
	You're bad.
	Yeah.
	And Mao should be treated the same way.
	Yes.
	He's not.
	I think you're giving her a hard time.
	We are?
	She might have been talking about her cat, Meow.
	Hitler, ow.
	Hitler, come on.
	She's black.
	Does that change your opinion?
	She goes to her cat for advice.
	She says, hello pussycat.
	I'm not saying it should.
	What do you think I should do today?
	And the pussycat says, meow.
	I didn't know that... Hitler, you can't... You can't... You can't tell dad jokes when you never fathered children.
	He tried.
	I, sir, fathered a whole country!
	Okay, alright.
	That's true.
	That's fair!
	You know what?
	I don't like you, but that is a fair counter-argument.
	a little heated there. But something at, and Ginger's Net, we talked about this, you know,
	the cultural revolution is the basis for a lot of these sort of, these guilt sessions that you'll
	see, or the idea of checking your privilege, right? Yeah.
	These struggle sessions, they stem, if you look at what Mao taught people, and a part of the
	ideology, because you control people through guilt, and you certainly control people through
	making them feel as though they need to, uh, right, pay some kind of penance for immutable
	characteristics. He wanted people to repent for, like, what, what, what, in his case, would have been like
	religious values.
	Yeah, religious values, a lot of the academia.
	Yeah, because again, like you'll see when we get to Pol Pot, those are the people that threatened his kind of control on the population.
	Because if they can say, well, actually, no, it's not this.
	You shouldn't plant your seeds one and a half inches apart from each other, whatever it is, you space them out a little bit, right?
	He's like, Oh, no, no, that's bad.
	If someone's contradicting him, then he all of a sudden doesn't seem like this deity figure, right?
	Called a personality starts failing.
	So you got to Get rid of the smart people first.
	Right.
	It was certainly based on similar identity politics.
	Now, of course, in a place like, you know, Mao's China, it was much more monolithic as far as the race of people.
	So they separated people through identity politics, largely through ideas or, you know, class structure.
	Or, for example, if you had proclivities in certain professions, which is kind of ironic because the government pretty much dictated your profession.
	And then I was like, by the way, that job you're doing, yeah, you shouldn't be doing that.
	So we see that today with these struggle sessions on campus, whether it's apologizing for your whiteness, apologizing for your male privilege.
	Matter of fact, I think Netflix, not a big fan, of course, because of cuties, they actually had a show three-body problem where they recreated one of these Mao-era struggle sessions.
	its Clip 3 body to a man.
	Nonsense!
	This theory actually assumes the beginning of time!
	What did you say?
	So what was before the beginning of time?
	That's right!
	This gives the existence of God a place!
	You mean to say that there is a God?
	Whether there is or not, Kersh hasn't given any concrete evidence.
	We want justice!
	The rebels have broken out of the city wall!
	Rebellion is justified! The people are innocent!
	Justice! Justice! Justice!
	Oh!
	Assassin!
	I Couldn't believe it because first of all that was a book
	written by a Chinese author and So I couldn't believe the author was able to get away with
	writing that but that depiction is so accurate and the scary thing
	That a lot of these struggle sessions and the Cultural Revolution was led by the students
	the student movement, the Red Guard, right?
	And you see that the shouting down of people that you disagree with today.
	Yep.
	It is so apples to apples to what is going on in a lot of our universities now that it's, I don't know how you could watch that and not just be terrified of what we're getting at.
	Well, yeah, go ahead.
	Well, the answer that, I've watched a little bit of that, but the answer that he gave was like science has given us neither proof of God or proof that tells us that God doesn't exist.
	It was a very neutral answer.
	It was a very scientific answer saying, hey, I don't have anything, science can't address this issue.
	And even then, like you saw his daughter, that's his daughter in the crowd, and his wife on the stage that had betrayed him because they had forced her to.
	And her reaction, she knew that was a death sentence.
	And I was like, that's, like, you didn't even take a position.
	Right.
	But the position that they were basically pushing is like, that the state, the leader is deity.
	Yeah.
	And anything else would be set up as a contradictory deity.
	Like, you know, obviously Hitler, same thing, kind of set himself up that way.
	Right.
	Yeah, but that's central, by the way, to communism.
	It is central to far-left ideology.
	When people say religion is the cause of all wars, well, okay.
	Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, these are distinctly atheist, in one form or another, regimes.
	And they would kill people for being religious.
	So it's human nature.
	And by the way, even if you say you're not religious, even if you say that you don't believe in God, something is your God.
	Everybody serves a master in some capacity.
	Today, in the United States, a lot of people serve themselves as God.
	They simply craft an altar and they turn themselves into an idol.
	However, in these governments, the state had to be the God.
	And you see this too with Mao, and it goes to Kim Jong-il, actually his father, and of course Kim Jong-un, where they encourage Children, they encourage sons, daughters to report their parents if they are not on board.
	And that's very similar in a cultural way to, okay, boomer.
	That's the thing, too.
	People will say it, by the way, even if you're like, well, hold on a second.
	You're in your early 30s.
	They go, okay, boomer, just because there's a difference of opinion.
	There was a point in time where people respected our elders because we thought they had wisdom to bring to the table.
	A lot of people try and paint this picture of, oh, the ancient mystic, or you see this and you go, oh, the Chinese elders.
	No, no, no.
	They were completely disrespected if they did not fall lockstep.
	Why is this so concerning too?
	Specifically at this point in time, in history, where China is really the greatest threat at this point to global stability, should they choose to act up, right?
	It really comes down to, does China want to come into the 21st century and start perhaps recognizing human rights?
	But when you take into account that Mao's legacy still lives on, in a lot of ways, for example, a lot of older Chinese citizens still have a positive view of Mao.
	Wow, that's so big!
	day. That's an undercurrent in the culture at large there.
	There's a 116 foot statue, right, of Mao located in, is it Tongzhou County? Yeah. Tongzhou
	County. His... Wow, that's so big. Yeah.
	Does it build one of me in Germany? Argentina.
	Yeah.
	Buenos Aires has a couple nice shots.
	Five feet tall, though.
	Well, we'll fill you in a little bit.
	I think there's a memory lapse that takes place.
	Yeah, he punched out a little early.
	Yeah, he did punch out a little bit early.
	But you know what?
	Tim Kennedy's still finding you.
	Hunting you, I should say.
	He'll never find me, Tim.
	Till he tricks you every time with olly olly oxen free.
	I'm here!
	Stop falling for it, Adolf.
	You don't have to come out.
	I won't.
	And Mao's embalmed body?
	Still on display in Tiananmen Square.
	Here's a clip of his corpse.
	I don't like it.
	There's a very well-known place in China called Tiananmen Square.
	We all know why it's so famous.
	Because that's where Mao's mausoleum is.
	So there used to be this dumb 600-year-old gate at Tiananmen Square, but the Communists tore it down in 1954, and when Mao died in 1976, they thought it would be a great place to put his tomb.
	Under the watchful eye of dozens of heavily armed army personnel, people from all around China come to pay their respects to the great helmsman.
	The mausoleum opens at 8 in the morning and closes at 4.
	But so many people come to see the mummified Mao, they have to cut the line off at 12, or else the people at the end of the line wouldn't make it before closing time.
	And something that you see with a lot of these dictators, to me it's kind of funny.
	Like we talked about with Kim Jong Il, he had 11 holes in one in his first... Shot of negative 38, is that what it was?
	Yeah, 38 under par.
	Yeah, first round of golf.
	All holes in one.
	It's like they sit down with a conclave, and they're like, How about I tell them I can fly?
	Like, no, no, it has to be realistic.
	So they come up with these lies.
	So you think they're a deity where it's like, hey, they're just like me, only infinitely superior.
	They always love to show you how good they are at things.
	And you'll notice, particularly with this region of the world, these dictators, you'll notice there's kind of a through line here, whether it's Mao, whether it's Pol Pot, whether it's Kim Jong Il, they show you how athletic they are.
	You know, and marry a black man to be found, of course.
	But here is Mao showing people his swimming prowess because he wanted to impress them.
	them and this is just something that these narcissists, narcissistic sociopaths do.
	It looks like a water birth.
	Does he not believe in bathing suits?
	I don't know.
	Put your egg roll away, bro.
	He's blinking, too, like he's never been in water before.
	It burned!
	How is that showing them how great of a swimmer he is?
	He's barely moving.
	He's not a great swimmer at all.
	Was he trying to show people that he could swim really well?
	A ton of people took up swimming after that, actually.
	Really?
	Floating on their back and kind of kicking every once in a while with 15 people around to make sure you don't drown, you tub of lard.
	Yeah, well, he's buoyant.
	That's the thing.
	High body fat.
	He's making an effort to physically improve himself, and that should be commended.
	Why are you defending Mao?
	I forgot he was here.
	I'm not defending Mao.
	It's that people of any size and any sizes healthy can improve themselves.
	Yeah, Hitler.
	What?
	Just shut up, Sam.
	No, he called you Hitler, Mr. HR.
	All of you are going to be in my office after this is over.
	We won't, though.
	You will.
	Why don't you, whenever you're ready, not right now but later, go in your office and just wait for us and we'll be there.
	We'll be there Friday around dusk.
	Does that work?
	About 9?
	9.30?
	I can't do that.
	You guys obviously know that.
	Shut up.
	I don't know what he's talking about.
	Let's go on to Stalin, again, in these final brackets.
	By the way, Papadoc, DraftDictators.com, the official bookkeeper of The Great Dick Off.
	Turns out now it's just a 600, right?
	Really?
	It's changing.
	Smart money for Papadoc.
	People are stupid?
	No.
	And don't know who Pol Pot is?
	It's because people are hopeful.
	Let's go on to Stalin.
	Now, Stalin, obviously, the numbers vary wildly.
	We talked about this.
	You already have the death count.
	The lowest that you're looking at is about 20 million people.
	People can go up.
	I've seen people go as high as 40.
	Communist dictatorships aren't great at record keeping.
	No, they're not very good at record keeping.
	How many people did you starve to death?
	Well, not many.
	Well, I don't know.
	We killed all the people who did math!
	Oh, well.
	Although, we didn't serve anybody.
	But we have long, long tables.
	They built tables.
	We have very long tables.
	That's how you know I'm a powerful dictator.
	I don't know why they all want long tables if they go to a dictator's office outfitter.
	Yeah.
	But it's just that, for some reason, that's a through line that you see.
	It's impractical.
	Let's look at the... They want all their friends to come over and hang out.
	Yes.
	No, they don't have friends.
	Maybe they have a little steak, or maybe they have a fish dinner.
	I don't understand the implication.
	It's a party.
	I don't like it.
	I don't like a lot of this.
	Let's look at the wars that Stalin was involved with.
	Obviously, the Russo-Finnish War, that was 39 to 40.
	There was a real spell of Russia at war with a lot of people.
	Well, they don't play well.
	Finland was forced to cede land to the Soviet Union.
	100,000 Red Army soldiers actually died.
	26,000 of the Finnish died.
	That's a trend.
	That's a through line with Russian battle tactics.
	Yeah, just throw more bodies at it, throw more bodies at it, throw more bodies at it.
	And I've said this in the past, that's the difference between a psychopath, Hitler, and a sociopath, where it's just, hey, you know what?
	Thank you, I have feelings too.
	You do have, you had feelings, unfortunately, only for a select group of people, where if you look at Stalin, he didn't even have feelings for his own people.
	It was about creating this utopia, this idea, right?
	The idea is the only thing that matters in human life.
	Is sort of inconsequential in achieving that idea.
	That's the difference between a sociopath who has no empathy and a psychopath who has a very, very warped view of reality.
	And I think that if you look a lot at a lot of these dictators, you're dealing with sociopathic tendencies.
	But I'm not a doctor.
	There was the Continuation War, 44 through 45.
	And this is where Finland, Dinnersnap attempted to try and regain some of the territory that was lost.
	There was actually a famous Finnish sniper.
	who allegedly killed over 500 soviets?
	Jeez.
	With either a sniper rifle, or the historical record's again not super accurate,
	or a machine gun.
	Seems to me like we should be able to narrow that down, but we've searched and we couldn't.
	Luckily we have a clip.
	Throughout many interviews, he consistently sidestepped questions
	about the specific number of enemies he had neutralized during the war.
	Official figures were anchored in Hayha's own recounts, but they came with stringent verification standards.
	Each downed enemy required confirmation from his comrades, and only those who were undeniable made the tally.
	If multiple snipers targeted the same foe, no count was recorded.
	Only his sniping victims were counted.
	His exploits with the submachine gun, a weapon he wielded with comparable mastery, Wow.
	Those are good numbers.
	Pretty good numbers if you can get them.
	He would go high in the draft.
	Yes he would.
	It's hot pick.
	milestone. 25 confirmed downed enemies in a single day, surpassing his previous daily best of 23.
	Wow. Those are good numbers. Pretty good numbers if you can get them.
	Yeah. You'd go high in the draft. Yes, he would. It's hot pick. Let's, he had a lot of sons.
	Stalin, you know, he was, if nothing else, he was potent.
	But something that I do think is important that you see with Stalin, and you'll see, again, how does it connect to today, really preyed on envy, right?
	And this is a big part of communism.
	That's why it's always kind of funny to me where they say, you know, capitalism, where they'll say that free enterprise is about greed, right?
	You all know the Gordon Gekko speech.
	I don't understand, and someone can explain to me, and you can comment, why it's considered greed to want to keep what it is that you have earned.
	Let's grant it.
	Let's say that that is greedy.
	I don't understand why that is greedy, but to the left and to people like Stalin, to people like Mao, to people like Anita Dunn, Barack Obama, whether it's former Vice President Biden, they don't view it as greedy in wanting to take from your fellow citizen what you haven't earned.
	Either way, let's just say there's a pie.
	Okay.
	If you say that, you know what, I've earned these five pieces of pie, that's greedy.
	If you say, I want those five pieces of pie, even though I've done nothing for those five pieces of pie, for some reason that's inherently altruistic.
	And this is a brilliant trick that you see with these dictators, what they pull, is they tell you that, no, you're actually virtuous in playing on your greed.
	Don't you want what they have?
	Yeah.
	It's nothing that they've done or anything that you haven't done.
	It's a system that's rigged against you.
	Because now that it's the system that's rigged against you, it does not come down to individual responsibility, personal liberty.
	It's, you need a savior.
	Hey, what's got two thumbs isn't gonna commit mass genocide and will improve your life?
	This guy.
	Every single time.
	Or woman, but let's be honest, they're not effective.
	It's the guys, yeah.
	That's something that you really see with Stalin.
	A lot of playing on envy.
	And that's of course a deadly sin.
	Well, and it seems kind of weird, like Stalin, I don't think was the natural
	successor for a while, but then he was kind of put in place, almost seen as kind
	of somebody you wouldn't think would be the natural successor, and then came to
	power. It seems like that's kind of the format. Like you end up with some kind of
	You don't want to put a strongman next to you in second command because they'll just take over and take you out, basically.
	So you pick somebody who you can control and then you end up picking some of the worst possible people that are weak men that have to absolutely exert all of their power that they possibly can and kill a ton of people to make sure that their weakness is never discovered, right?
	So I look at that, I look at Russia today and I see that perpetuated through to today.
	So I'm saying, I know these guys are pretty equally matched with Stalin and Mao, but Stalin because of what he's carried forward into Russian culture today?
	I think probably still, he probably has my vote.
	I know we're not there yet, but I'm just saying, like, it's, you're still feeling the effects of Stalin in a very major way in Russia today.
	But you know what, though?
	Yes.
	Like Vladimir Putin.
	Well, I agree, except for the fact that, you know, they've sanitized Mao so much.
	They've done such a good job of suppressing Mao.
	Some kids learn about Stalin a little bit because it's kind of imperative with World War II.
	Like, you can't fully explain how it ended if you don't touch on Stalin.
	They're not really required to touch on Mao.
	I didn't study much of Mao at all.
	I didn't study much of Mao at all.
	In school you never learn a thing about Mao.
	That's why Anita Duncan come out and say look to Mao and no one says wait wait what?
	If she said Stalin at least a few people would have some questions.
	Well the trick that they can pull and here's where I'll slightly disagree is that there
	is certain elements of Stalinism that are inherently baked into the Russian system in
	the psyche or whatever but the CCP is a direct continuation of what Mao started.
	That was the only other kind of counterbalancing.
	And right now China's kind of tricked the world into saying look at this 20 you can compare China and Russia and China looks miles ahead of it in many ways that it is.
	Yeah.
	And so you can look at China and kind of say well look at the economic development look at the people they've raised out of poverty and it's all bullshit but at least you can kind of make that facade.
	When the system that undergirds it right now Xi is a direct return and he envies what Mao did so much he wants to be Mao so I think there's Mao's legacy is very, very strong today.
	I think Mao is certainly most alive and well of these dictators today.
	That would be my position.
	He died off and he's had a real comeback with Xi Jinping's regime.
	I don't disagree there, but I think we're dealing with more of the legacy of Stalin today with Russia than we are with Mao in China.
	So I agree that Mao obviously is still very alive and well in their policy today, but I feel like China is the greater threat.
	Overall, but I feel like this, the, the, the kind of the, like you said, they fooled people into thinking that, okay, we've gone to the kind of this a little bit more open system where people can go out and actually make a living and pull people out of poverty.
	And we have all these great cities and technology and great things going on.
	I feel like you can negotiate with that better than you can negotiate with the system that we have in Russia right now.
	I may be wrong.
	I don't think the system in Russia nearly as closely resembles a system that Stalin would have put in place.
	So I think it's been much more transformed.
	No, I mean like a strongman system.
	Like it's a strongman who wields control over everybody else who wasn't necessarily a strongman to begin with.
	And like Vladimir Putin was not a strongman to begin with.
	Like he came into that role as like the third choice, essentially, to be in that role.
	And then he seized power once he got close to it.
	He seized power, but he is... He's kept it.
	But he is also a direct subordinate to Mao's successor.
	Well now, yeah, I guess he is.
	Okay, well then maybe that makes sense.
	Yeah, you know what, I gotta say, I think... You know what, see, this is the beauty of the show, is we can change our mind.
	Hey, interesting fact about Stone.
	He likes Asians, got it.
	He actually had to push a buzzer when he was speaking so the attendees would stop clapping.
	He was that loved.
	Here's a clip.
	No one dares to do it first with the ball.
	Enough.
	Enough.
	Sit down, please.
	A special device helps to avoid the confusion.
	You will clap longer for me?
	Enough!
	Enough!
	Sit down please.
	The sony likes the shower alarm.
	Oh my word.
	What?
	To clean yourself!
	Yeah, I've heard that before.
	It looked a lot like a Jimmy Kimmel set to me.
	Yeah, it did.
	It did look like a Jimmy.
	Also, he didn't clean his pipes.
	He had sour pipes.
	Stalin.
	He was kind of messy.
	It's probably the least of his crimes though, right?
	I don't know.
	I think it's offensive.
	You have a nice briar pipe.
	That's, I mean, that's craftsmanship at its finest.
	And you should respect, you should respect the hardwoods because they're more difficult to work with.
	Not like a soft pipe.
	You call it cast iron?
	Oh my gosh.
	Nope.
	Nope.
	You gotta, you gotta, you gotta sweeten the pipe by, anyone out there, any pipe smokers out there, you know what I'm talking about.
	Yeah, I'll hit you.
	You just don't clean it.
	My point is you don't do that to a pipe.
	He could have had servants do it for crying out loud.
	I'm going to call this one.
	Mao moves on.
	Lane convinced me.
	Let's hit it.
	If you're Mao moves on to the final two.
	There you go.
	He deserves it.
	He can breaststroke right on up to the final two.
	Let's knock Joseph Stahl.
	Now, that must feel good for you.
	Yeah, it feels great.
	In fact, That's petty.
	That'll show him after he beat the crap out of you.
	Yeah, I'm petty.
	That is pretty petty.
	You should call me Tom Petty because I'm singing the boy of the song.
	You know what?
	Don't worry about it!
	Well, maybe you should have listened to von Pallas and your other commanders who knew what they were doing while you, a lowly corporal, mustered tens of thousands of your men to their deaths.
	You know what?
	Maybe when you're trying to insult Hitler, you shouldn't give him helpful advice.
	That's right!
	I fell asleep this whole time.
	Like D-Day.
	Again.
	We'll just let him fail, Sam.
	Yeah.
	Just give him enough rope.
	In your people's best interest that he'd not succeed.
	Alright, we're going on down now to, uh, well I guess we gotta- is it to Pol Pot or to Po- I think I lost Pol- where is Pol Pot in here, uh?
	He's- he's right after Sodam.
	No, I know he's right up there.
	I think I have his note here somewhere.
	Where's Pol Pot?
	I know I've got- Pol Pot is- After Sodam Insane.
	After who?
	He's on page nine.
	Page nine.
	Boy, we did a lot.
	By the way, you can thank your research team here.
	None of this happens without you at Mug Club.
	And, um, you know, I'm hoping that's a good thing.
	Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it.
	Please stop.
	We don't need that attachment.
	That's like George W. Bush's endorsement of McCain.
	Use the promo code HITLERBAD.
	Yeah, you know what?
	Let's put up a promo code right now.
	Let's make it HITLERBAD and it's good for exactly eight hours.
	HITLERBAD.
	What's the discount?
	What do you think?
	You're the CEO, Gerald.
	Nine dollars off.
	That's pretty good.
	I had some good ideas, I've been told.
	Yeah, nine dollars a lot.
	Well, marketing was your forte.
	Like, I get it.
	Marketing, PR, public speaking.
	You got it.
	Okay, how else are you gonna get people to go into it?
	We need a graphic artist to design.
	You think you could help us with that?
	How is art?
	No, I stole my designs from the Indians.
	Indians?
	He's talking about the swastika.
	Yeah, no, the real Indians.
	Feather, no, not feather, yeah.
	So, Pol Pot.
	Let's go through Pol Pot.
	And this Pol Pot is the heavy favorite to win just because you know he I think was a scale was it six and a half Hitlers yesterday as far as a percentage of population.
	People don't realize how many people were executed by Pol Pot and by the way in a really short period of time.
	Yeah.
	Right Junior Snap that's what we talked about that really is surprising.
	Very short period of time like and he was classically educated I believe in France.
	Paris.
	Yeah in Paris so like it's not.
	It's not like.
	Radio engineering.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And he came back and he tried to make Cambodia into an industrial, or I'm sorry,
	an agricultural powerhouse.
	Basically saying, get out into the fields and plant rice and we'll become a power in the world
	because people will depend on us for rice production.
	And so that's when he cleaned out the cities, he killed all the teachers,
	he killed the people with glasses, he split families apart.
	Like there's the Killing Fields movie where there's a scene where they walk up to the chalkboard
	and the kid erases the hand holding of the stick figures between parents and kids and everybody claps.
	Like so disconnecting people from their families like this.
	This guy did every evil thing that we've talked about, everybody else doing,
	but on a much more effective scale within his own country.
	If he'd have been a part of a larger society, I don't know if it would have held,
	but still he tried and did incredibly bad things.
	And I will tell you this, in speaking with a lot of people out there
	and even reaching out to fans, of course you guys are a great sample size.
	If very few people know about Mao, if everyone knows about Hitler
	and a decent amount of people know about Stalin, but not with granularity that would be required
	understand the misdeeds. Very few people know about Mao.
	Almost no one, relatively speaking, knows about Pol Pot or the atrocities that he committed.
	This was the late 70s.
	Like, this wasn't that long ago.
	I was in Phnom Penh in the capital city in Cambodia and you're looking at people old enough to have been around when this stuff went down.
	And you're at the high school in town where they would take and imprison people.
	And they had the famous picture, I think it was on the cover of maybe like Time Magazine, where it's a woman sitting straight up like this.
	Well, it's because they had a metal rod that she was sitting on for her butt to go on either side of it.
	and a point on the back of her head and then they had guards around so you saw a second angle from
	that picture and it like they took people to that high school to then kill them. It was just a giant
	place of death within the midst of that city and people that were still dealing with that are alive.
	And this brings us you know we can bring this to modern issues we'll talk about some of the
	history as far as the wars he was involved with. I think a big reason I mean you guys can comment
	if you disagree a big reason is because yeah it goes back to the 70s that they
	A lot of people like to think, hey, let's take the good from collectivism, from communism, from these ideas.
	And we're at the point now, it's 2024, we're past human nature.
	I mean, come on, we're not going to have genocide to that degree today.
	We can have socialism without all of the baggage.
	Because people may not know this, Noam Chomsky actually downplayed what Mao did.
	He talked about what was going on in Cambodia and saying that there was a lot of good.
	Of course, he tried to walk it back and say that he was taken out of context, but we'll provide the link here.
	I encourage you to go check out this reading.
	One of the most respected intellectuals in intelligentsia.
	Noam Chomsky, if you read it, seems pretty cut and dry, relatively pro-Pol Pot.
	To me, any pro-Pol Pot is kind of a red flag.
	Yeah.
	Why would you want to point to Mao?
	Why would you want to point to Mao?
	If you're in academia right now and you want to say, Donald Trump, fascist.
	They did the same thing with George W. Bush.
	Fascist, right?
	NOAA effects rock against Bush.
	That was a big album, right?
	Green Day, fascist, fascist.
	You want to say that fascism is right wing.
	If people were to look to actual examples, more recent examples of fascism, I'm sure you could look at some happening really today.
	Of course, we discussed Africa earlier in the program.
	You go to Pol Pot.
	You'd certainly go to Mao, we'll talk about Popaduk, but Pol Pot would be the most significant in recent memory.
	Oh wait, that's right.
	A lot of our academics were pro-Pol Pot.
	A lot of our academics were trying to justify the actions really in the, you know, sort of this wake of Vietnam, and I wouldn't want to draw attention to it, so I really, if nothing else, Mao, but certainly Pol Pot, is one that you should spend a little bit more time with the research that we are providing for you.
	It's an incredible, to me it's just a fascinating character study of the human condition, and one that really has been swept under the rug.
	Did you learn about Pol Pot in school?
	Or if you're in school, like many of you, are you learning about Pol Pot?
	I'd be willing to bet that the answer is no.
	No, and again, it's just another example of where the government comes in and says, this is what we'll do, right?
	I just told you he wanted to become an agricultural powerhouse.
	They couldn't get enough rice to feed the people planting the rice.
	Much less export stuff and become some kind of a powerhouse, economically speaking.
	It's the government coming in and saying, hey, we're going to do this thing this way.
	And everything is the government's.
	Everything that you're doing has to work towards the collective good.
	And it falls on its face every time.
	And that wouldn't be that bad of a problem if everybody voted for it and not having tens of millions of people die or a significant percentage of your population.
	But that's always what happens.
	It's not like they just try something and it's like a business failing where you reorganize and go do something else.
	It's that millions of people end up dying and it's the same pattern every single time they try it.
	Capitalism has become a dirty word, but when I'm discussing, I'm discussing free enterprise.
	I do think that we've come to a dangerous position here today through crony capitalism.
	So I want to be clear.
	This is where people talk about the rise of populism.
	Well, that can mean different things in different areas and depending on the country by its very nature, by definition.
	When you're talking about communism, socialism, The problem is, if someone is inept, let alone if someone is a sadist, if someone is evil, once you centralize that power, there's no mitigating it.
	At least with free enterprise, the idea is that people either rise and fall based on the quality or the need of their product, their goods, their services, or commodities.
	That is, it's a safeguard.
	It's a safeguard against the human condition of corruption, of evil, of selfish motivation.
	However, we do find ourselves at a point in society today, and nearly all of these people, by the way, in these five, let's call it five to ten companies, would tell you that they would be more influenced by leftist ideology than of course, for example, Adam Smith.
	You have only a handful of companies now that are in charge of the vast, I would say huge swaths, I don't know if it's the vast majority, I don't want to misspeak, of our economy.
	When you're talking about Alphabet, Google, you're talking about Meta, Facebook, Instagram, you're talking about a few key media companies, whether it's, you're talking about Comcast, was it ABC, ABC Disney, NBC Universal, Viacom, I believe it's Turner Comcast, News Corp, and then you really have, okay, a few big tech companies, we mentioned Google, Meta, Apple, Amazon, Hey, think about that.
	All of these people now are controlling so much of what you can see, what you can learn, what you hear.
	I mean, SEO, search engine optimization, is not a thing anymore.
	They determine what it is that you see and what you read.
	So it's not lost on me that Capitalism in modern America, because of the leftist ideology and because of the fact that we've picked winners and losers with our government, and just look at what we do here with the Federal Reserve for crying out loud, this is not a free market economy.
	And we are going to face some of the same ills unless there's some kind of a course correction, just because when you centralize that much power, you cannot point me to an example where it's ended well.
	Ever!
	Including when we go just to the 1970s with Pol Pot.
	That's why I think Pol Pot is so interesting.
	Yeah.
	Centralized power is a very, very dangerous thing.
	Not saying that decentralized power guarantees good results.
	Hey, but at least it gives you a fighting chance.
	It does.
	It allows for them, at least.
	Some other notes about, oh yeah, the war is initiated here with Pol Pot.
	The Cambodian Civil War, obviously.
	There was, I know that he captured, how do you pronounce this?
	Phnom Penh.
	In 1975, you need to stretch your legs there.
	Yeah, sometimes you get caged up, you need to let the old marchers loose.
	Yes.
	Your marchers are barking?
	Yes.
	Also, interesting fact, the United States dropped more bombs on Pol Pot than Japan.
	Really?
	True fact.
	True fact.
	Was that when we were fighting the Vietnamese?
	Yes.
	In Cambodia?
	Yeah, well, so, okay.
	Can't say that we didn't help.
	And the commies, you know, the Cambodian commies.
	Can't say that we didn't help create Pol Pot.
	Yeah, but then the Vietnamese went in and took care of it.
	Kicked them out of power.
	Which is where my, which is an argument that I'm saving for the finals.
	Oh, okay, alright.
	All right, so what do we have here?
	Anything else?
	No, you know what?
	Okay, we have Full Pot versus Papa Doc, Dark Horse in all of this.
	Uh, what?
	Well, that's racist.
	Yeah, he keeps saying it.
	Okay, fine, what do you want?
	Why is he a Dark Horse?
	Because he has the dark skin?
	Yeah, that's what we, yeah, we insinuated.
	That's not the, you guys said that.
	School wasn't really your thing, huh?
	Maybe he's just a dude who was working in the coal mine.
	That's even, that's worse.
	He's down there in the coal mine.
	I do not understand the implication.
	He doesn't want to make the sounds.
	It's a cave-in.
	You're talking about the Chileans?
	Which is also a tragedy.
	No, I don't know about that.
	Yeah, well, that happened, I guess, when you were still dead and purgatory.
	So, Papadoc.
	Obviously not as consequential.
	Okay?
	It's not... You have a fascination with Papadoc.
	I didn't miss it.
	I just find something...
	I just find it fascinating where a guy who clearly didn't believe any of the shit that he was peddling fooled an entire nation.
	He committed.
	He really did.
	Committed to the role.
	We talked about it yesterday, but a guy who really is effectively an atheist who tells them, like, I'm going to go into a meeting, close the door, goes in with, like, chicken bones and a skull candle.
	He goes in and, you know, he's just, like, eating a TV dinner.
	Yeah.
	He's watching reruns of The Rifleman and like, oh, Papa Doc, we better do what he says!
	Like, that is, to me, I don't, I mean, I get it's terrible for the people who had to live under his rule, sure.
	Um, but it's also really funny, and I read this yesterday, but I just have to again, because I couldn't get through it.
	Papadoc had his own Lord's Prayer.
	He did?
	Yeah.
	Wait, what?
	Oh, that's right, you weren't here yesterday.
	I wasn't, no, I haven't seen it.
	Yeah, this is something that he would make people recite.
	No, it's okay.
	Not for this one.
	No, you can leave it on.
	Halfway.
	Although, honestly, I think at this point respect in this facet is the least of our concerns.
	The Lord spurts, Our Doc, who art in the National Palace for Life, What?
	Hallowed be thy name, by present and future generations, thy will be done, at Port-au-Prince.
	And in the provinces.
	Oh, okay.
	Give us this day our new Haiti and never forgive the trespasses of the anti-patriots who spit every day on our country.
	Let them succumb to temptation and under the weight of their venom deliver them not from any evil.
	Wow, it becomes petty very quickly.
	It really does.
	And you have to make sure you kill those people!
	I was like, wow, okay.
	I love Port-au-Prince.
	Yeah, Port-au-Prince and also the provinces.
	Hey, how's that new Haiti coming?
	Yes, exactly.
	Yeah, you're asking, give us this day our new Haiti.
	Well, that hasn't happened yet, bro.
	You know what they say.
	Old Haiti.
	No, Haiti.
	It's a place.
	You wouldn't like the people.
	Yeah, but he's old school.
	He doesn't fully understand.
	They don't like the food.
	But to be fair, they do call New York City the Port-au-Prince of America.
	Ah, yes, Mayor Adams.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Also the Zagreb of America.
	It's also the Paris of America.
	It is.
	And the Tel Aviv of America.
	Of course you're gonna chime in.
	The funny thing is that's probably the most accurate.
	It'd be more like the Jerusalem of... I feel like it's not really... I think Tel Aviv works better.
	I don't know.
	What are the people in Williamsburg called, Sam?
	The Satmars?
	Yeah, the really strict ones.
	Yeah, those are the Satmars.
	Yeah.
	So Jerusalem, right?
	I'm closer, aren't I?
	Maybe.
	Yeah, it depends.
	Either could work.
	All right, well, whatever.
	You don't know.
	That was surprisingly civil.
	I'd like to pop with Sam from HR.
	I feel like this is a coup.
	I feel like he's about to take over the show.
	That's what I think.
	When he's nice, there's a problem.
	He does have probably the legal acumen to do so.
	He probably does.
	Did you go to law school?
	Uh, no, I was a disappointment.
	I have siblings who are doctors and lawyers, but, um, you know, I was the black sheep of the family.
	I went into HR.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	They're all disappointments.
	Wow.
	I think your position's pretty well known.
	I don't think you have to whisper.
	I didn't want him to hear me.
	It still helps.
	They have great ears.
	We are going to have a long and serious talk after the show is over, Hitler.
	Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that'll have great effect.
	He'll repent of his ways, I think.
	Just, let's go to the, here's a clip of, I don't even know what it is, it's just a clip of Papa Doc, I just need a second.
	For this little man's believed to have executed 2,000 Haitians, and has certainly driven 30,000 into exile, and the rest into terrified silence.
	All Haiti lives under the threat of his tauntaun, his bagmen, his executioners.
	To provoke these overarmed bully boys is to invite a beating or death.
	For each nationalized hoodlum is armed, each licensed to kill.
	A missing Haitian would be unimportant and unnoticed, but a foreigner's arrest or death can be ordered only by the President.
	That man with the rifle looks like Idris Elba.
	Those are, like, the best-looking Haitian dudes of all time!
	You know what he's doing?
	He's like, you know what?
	Those Nazis.
	The one thing they had going for them, Hugo Boss and Marching.
	These guys, they looked pretty well-dressed.
	Those were Italian threads.
	They were nice.
	I had a very good friend of mine, Hugo.
	Hugo Boss?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Those were pretty nice threads.
	They were very nicely dressed.
	Yeah.
	Bad people, bad people.
	Well, it's one of the few things where some people, like, Haitian-Americans would be better off in Haiti as far as those threads compared to, like, the purple suit store.
	So, Papa Doc had only four children, which surprises me.
	Why?
	Well, I just, you know, I would think he was virile.
	He's prolific.
	He has four children that we know of, which is less surprising.
	And his only son, watch, out of everything today, that's going to be... What, did he run out to get a pack of smokes?
	Until his third son got drafted in the NBA.
	You made Hitler laugh, good.
	I like the racist joke.
	It's so fun, you know?
	Yeah, every now and then we like to have a laugh.
	His only son, Jean-Claude, is the most famous.
	And Jean-Claude is known as Baby Doc.
	Everything about this is funny.
	And he assumed the presidency from his father at age 19.
	Lil Doc, to the uninitiated.
	And he mismanaged the agricultural land so badly, he caused an exodus of Haitians abroad.
	He looted the treasury before fleeing the country.
	And when he was asked in court about the human rights abuses, his response was, deaths exist in all countries.
	Facts.
	Yes, you can't.
	Okay, fine, Papa.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	Yes, the apple doesn't fall too far from the papa in that instance.
	So, you know what?
	In this case, he's had a good run.
	Thank you, DraftDictators.com official bookkeeper of The Great Dick Off, but I think that Papa Doc has sort of worn out his welcome here.
	And the final two is going to be Mao Zedong and Pol Pot.
	Führer, you may do the honors.
	♪♪ -♪ Auf der einen Lüft ein kleines... ♪
	Quite the physical humorist, the chancellor.
	I think it's okay.
	No, it's fine.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	They're straight.
	I don't know if you noticed something.
	With the final two, we're about to name our great winner of the Great Dick Off.
	I just think you should answer for... Final two.
	What should I answer for?
	I mean, I don't know.
	Well, I think you'll have to change your dating profile.
	What's the... Oh, I will definitely have to change my dating profile.
	What's the theme?
	Yeah, what is the theme?
	I don't know, just tell us.
	Communism.
	No, well, okay, what are the themes?
	Maybe there are multiple themes?
	Stalin was a communist.
	Well, Asians are more successful at... Tiny eyes!
	Well, you know.
	That's not untrue.
	I don't think the eyes themselves are tiny.
	I think the... Yeah, maybe the pictures.
	Yeah.
	But big hearts.
	Yeah, I don't know about that.
	That's not how I would put it.
	Small eyes, big hearts, can't lose.
	Penis.
	Small eyes and full hearts.
	Cholesterol.
	Because a lot of them died from heart failure.
	I haven't noticed.
	Small eyes, but they did not lack vision.
	I love Asian.
	I don't really have much more to say about this.
	It's just funny to me that we narrow it down, and it really comes down to, I mean, this battle.
	Do you think they would have liked each other?
	No, the Chinese don't like the... No, they look down on that part of the world very, very much.
	I know, I know, but looking at these pictures, Pol Pot looks lighter-skinned than Mao.
	Is that French Riviera?
	Yeah.
	What is the lighting in the photos?
	It could be the lighting, but I saw Mao swimming.
	Well, he was a man of the people.
	He was out laboring.
	He was out laboring.
	Yeah, you know.
	He was out laboring, yeah, destroying the crops.
	Floating.
	Floating.
	I just wonder if people, if you were to look at this, you would, if you didn't have the names, one would assume Mao is Pol Pot and Pol Pot is Mao.
	Like a Freaky Friday.
	You could.
	Communists.
	Can you imagine that movie?
	They'll be like, I'm in you!
	You're in me!
	Wah!
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I gotta cancel my Saturday plans, yeah.
	Yes.
	Or pole, or pot-za-dong.
	Pole-za-dong.
	Mal-pot's pretty funny.
	That sounds like my favorite gentleman's club.
	Oh, okay.
	Pole-za-dong?
	Pole-za-dong.
	I've got the dongs you can pole.
	Well, you can only do it so many times before.
	becomes chafing. I would say this is tough. It comes down to a total number. I think no,
	can't be that the total number of deaths. Mao. Sure. Yeah.
	He runs away with it. Obviously.
	I know what you're thinking, like way, way worse. I think the scale is we'll bring it up. How many
	Hitler's but as far as percentage of the population, you have to give that to Pol Pot.
	Yeah, but so I'm going to go back to Lane's argument a little bit earlier,
	how Mao has affected kind of current day stuff.
	Pol Pot hasn't.
	The country basically turned around after that.
	They haven't become successful necessarily, but they went and- They killed everybody?
	No, yeah, basically, yeah.
	They hosted a survivor.
	Everybody!
	Yeah, well, I mean, they basically, they've moved away from that way of thinking as a country, right?
	Whereas China has just continued it and perpetuated it.
	So I think Mao, even though his number's bigger, Even though Pol Pot has a higher percentage, I would kind of lean towards Pol Pot.
	I would go back to Mal because of how he is affecting current day.
	I understand that he would be my counter argument.
	I'm not saying I disagree with you.
	Okay.
	I'm just being a contrarian.
	Because why not at this point in this program?
	I think that Pol Pot was more of a personal sadist.
	Yeah.
	Pol Pot, I mean, really did.
	Pol Pot went full throttle.
	Mao still kind of tried to at least put on this veneer of, no, no, we actually know what we're doing and there's a reason that we're purging these people while keeping these as far as intellectuals.
	Like Pol Pot just said, classes out!
	Yeah, well, he basically said, F it.
	Yeah.
	Everybody gets out of the cities now.
	I don't care what you do.
	Right.
	Everybody gets out of the cities except for some elite people.
	So, yeah, I can see that.
	And even in his quote, when we talked about that, he was basically saying, like, look at me.
	Do I look like a... I can't remember what he said.
	Do I look like a villain or do I look like a vicious person, I think was the word.
	That's not really fair.
	It's such a leading question from a tiny Asian man to Western Americans.
	I'm not going to be intimidating.
	He said, I came to carry out the struggle, not kill people.
	Even now.
	And you can look at me.
	Am I a savage person?
	Savage person.
	I knew there was a V somewhere.
	Vicious.
	Savage.
	So yeah, I mean, I get it.
	It's really hard.
	It really is.
	Because if you put Pol Pot in China, does he kill the same percentage of the population?
	Right?
	Because the number would have been much, much bigger, obviously, over time.
	Yeah.
	With that kind of percentage.
	Because if he had done what he did in Cambodia, in China, it would have been crazy.
	He needs to be on a good team.
	So I think it depends what you value here.
	And The one thing that I would take away from Pol Pot is he had a very short reign.
	Yeah.
	And the Vietnamese were like, no, we don't want this anymore.
	And as soon as the Vietnamese really decided they didn't want it anymore, he was out.
	Yeah.
	So he didn't really have much power outside of his own borders.
	So that's a knock against him.
	But what I will say is to your point about sadism, Mao killed a lot of people with his ineptness.
	his agricultural policies, his, you know, the four pests campaign, things that were just stupid
	so that resulted in starvation and people just dying.
	Whereas Pol Pot came in, had three years, said I am going to straight up murder all of you and do it
	how I want, when I want, for no reason.
	Well, and a lot of people starved as well.
	But they call them the killing fields.
	It wasn't the starving fields.
	Right.
	It was the killing fields.
	People did starve, but the majority of people that died in China were people that starved because of the Communist policy, not because of a gun to the back of the head.
	Even though that did happen.
	It's a different starving.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I guess I would take your point and say, yeah, that's right.
	He was only there for really a few short years.
	But that, again, brings us back to such a huge percentage of the population, and it shows you how dangerous an ideology can be like that, where, in really, I mean, in less than half a decade, talking about, was it 30 plus percent of the population?
	Yeah, about a third of the country.
	At least 25 percent.
	At least 25 percent is the lowest estimate of the country.
	Imagine, I mean, really, imagine from COVID to today.
	Yeah.
	Imagine a quarter of the United States being murdered.
	No, I know.
	That's why you put him in a population center that's higher.
	Well... It's a high recorder.
	I didn't hear what he said, and I don't like your response to it.
	No, you shouldn't.
	I don't know.
	This is really tough.
	This is tough.
	If you have to put a vote in... If I ran it through a Madden simulation, I think it would be 5-5.
	Like, because they're both, like, bad dudes.
	Yeah.
	It's like the Marciano-Muhammad Ali.
	I think if I was leaning Mao, I think I'm going back towards Pol Pot because of the sadism factor.
	Like you said, Mao made really, really bad decisions.
	And to be fair, they both got boned by the Vietnamese when they tried to mess with them.
	So you can't really hold that against one and not the other.
	No, no, no, no.
	I'm not going to hold that.
	I don't know.
	I think the sheer brutality and if we're going, and again, that counterfactual, if you put Pol Pot in China with that power, what could he have done?
	I wouldn't even want to know.
	So I think actually Pol Pot kind of probably does have a vote on that.
	Next to Hitler.
	Hitler's obviously number one.
	Yeah.
	In a bad way.
	Right.
	Maybe Pol Pot wins.
	What do you think?
	I was going to go Pol Pot, and then you put me on the Mao track, and now you're back to Pol Pot, so I feel as though you're disloyal.
	No, but he made a good point about the number of people that he straight up just had killed, as opposed to making bad decisions that lead to their death, which is still really bad.
	But if you're going after the person who is the worst dictator in history, it's probably not going to be the person who just made bad decisions.
	It's the person who killed most of their population with a bullet.
	Let's narrow this down, and I don't like what he's doing when I can't see him.
	Is the Walter safe?
	Is he going to do us a favor a second time?
	It comes down to, I think we would all agree, the lasting impact of Mao, right?
	It still lives on to this day.
	And by the way, I would say, let me go back to that point because I think it's going to push me one direction.
	So the lasting impact of Mao, certainly more significant than Pol Pot.
	As far as personally, who was the worst?
	Pol Pot.
	Yeah.
	Pol Pot was the worst.
	If you're going to take Pol Pot the man, and they're both pretty bad, right?
	We're splitting very fine straight black hairs at this point.
	I would say that the legacy of Mao is not only one that had a more lasting impact, it's still one to be concerned about today.
	Yeah.
	It really is still, we're living under that shit.
	Nobody would push for Pol Pot's kind of policies right now, right?
	But people still push for Mao.
	You know what I mean?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Well, they're not all that different as far as policies.
	It's just that people feel like they can sanitize Mao enough that Anita Dunn feels comfortable.
	These politicians feel comfortable going out there and saying like, yeah, actually, kind of like they do with Karl Marx.
	They don't want to tell you that Karl Marx was firing off n-bombs like it was his job.
	They don't want to tell you that Karl Marx was a racist.
	They don't want to tell you that Karl Marx believed in violence as a means to an end.
	They don't want to tell you.
	They go, well, Karl Marx, it's a beautiful idea.
	They kind of pull the same trick with Mao.
	Yeah, but you can't.
	That's what I'm saying.
	You can't do that with Pol Pot.
	He may have had some of the same ideology, but he just killed people, pushed people out of cities.
	Nobody's going to go for that.
	Nobody's going to be like, hey, Pol Pot, let's do the push people out of cities things and make everybody farmers.
	Mao did that, too.
	Mao did that, too.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Not like Pol Pot.
	They had a whole program for it.
	Not even close to Pol Pot.
	Down from the mountain into the countryside.
	Yep.
	That's fine, but still, he didn't kill, what, 30% of the population?
	No, no, I agree.
	It really depends the metric that you're valuing the most.
	Because, valuing.
	Sheer brutality, Pol Pot.
	Lasting impact, Mao.
	Yeah.
	Here's one thing that I will say.
	I think, to determine this, we have the final two, okay?
	Draftdictators.com actually has this as kind of even right now.
	Even.
	So you can still place your final bets.
	Both very short.
	Yeah, I will say, since we have, obviously, the ultimate comparison, because Mao, Pol Pot, we all know, of course, doesn't even hold a candle to Adolf Hitler.
	Hitler, bad.
	Worst dictator ever.
	Not even close.
	Even though they killed far, far, far more people than Adolf Hitler, and just as evil as of an ideology but of course Hitler's the worst the worst
	you should learn about Hitler all the time and you know these are kind of afterthoughts. Hitler
	is a dick though. Yeah no absolutely just terrible and no one and you know everyone else fells in
	comparison we've all we've covered that.
	Agreed yeah yeah. However that's separate from the respect for the office and since we do have
	Adolf here I think that uh he'd probably be closer to this in determining this is the tiebreaker all
	of us are conflicted. Yeah.
	We are, so what is Hitler?
	What do you think, Mr. Adolf Hitler?
	Well, they have this guy, and they have this guy, and if you do the math, the winner is me!
	Okay, I'm just kidding, I'm joking, I'm joking.
	Shameless plug.
	Well, I think the worst one is the one that has the haircut of young Nick DiPaolo.
	So, not a fan, huh?
	Yeah.
	Is it because of the haircut?
	No, I think you make good arguments and... This guy really is kind of a piece of s***.
	This is Shizen, this guy.
	He kills his own people.
	There's no difference.
	They don't have different color hair, or eyes, or four eyes in your case.
	Right, yeah.
	Well, he wouldn't have lasted in Pol Pot's killing.
	No, I'm first on the list.
	I'm gonna go with this guy.
	Yeah, you're gonna go with Pol Pot?
	You know what?
	Pol Pot's the first one, I think.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think, you know what?
	This guy did it by accident.
	This guy, really driven.
	Well, it's kind of a, it's like 60-40 accident deliberate for either one, right?
	They're both pretty bad.
	Alright.
	Oh, man, look at this guy.
	He's an idiot.
	I saw him swimming, too.
	Terrible form.
	Yeah.
	Alright.
	You know what?
	We'll go with Adolf.
	Anyone have a problem here with going with Adolf Hitler's choice for worst dictator?
	No, I think Pol Pot.
	So we're in agreeance?
	You all agree with Hitler?
	Perfect!
	No, wait, no.
	Let's just skip.
	Alright, yeah.
	Let's finalize the board.
	And the worst is Pol Pot.
	Don't know how magnets work?
	It's a new technology.
	All right.
	It's not.
	We took all their best.
	I think that this has been, you know, actually I'm really glad that we did this.
	I think this has been, uh, um, it's been gratifying for us to work on here.
	This has been a long time coming.
	Um, hopefully equal parts educational as well as horrifying.
	And, uh, for not, and by the way, that, that has nothing to do with the historical reasons.
	Uh, just what's going on here in this studio.
	And I would apologize, but I feel like you'd smell blood in the water and use it against me, so I stand by it.
	This is one of those situations where, boy, this is something that everyone out there should already know.
	This should be remedial.
	For example, we've talked about Change My Mind.
	The reason that Change My Mind started was because so many kids would say, yeah, our professors don't talk about any of this.
	They don't present any of these counter arguments to whatever it is.
	It could have been the Second Amendment, could have been the First Amendment, could have been immigration policy.
	And this has been a long time coming because we have so many chats, if you guys are on Mug Club, we take them regularly from people saying, I don't, I realize all I know about is Hitler.
	I don't know enough about these other dictators.
	And this would be one of those instances where it's something that we do with every program.
	And I hope that more shows follow suit.
	We make all of our sources, our references publicly available, but that bibliography here for these two installments.
	Probably the most important that we can provide because I really do hope that you take some time.
	You know, consider it a book.
	You can create a printout.
	You'd probably be left with a couple thousand pages, but peruse it, learn about it, and be armed with this information moving forward so that, hey, if you need to, you can educate your professors or people in your circle who bring up Hitler and often compare people who are conservative to Hitler.
	Ask them about Mao.
	Ask them about today's winner, Pol Pot.
	But don't tell them about how you came to find this information.
	You don't need to tell anyone of what you saw here today.
	Adolf Hitler, I hope I never see you again.
	This has been the Great Dick Off.
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