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Sept. 4, 2023 - Louder with Crowder
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Comedic Icons Pull Back The Curtain on Hollywood, Censorship & Politics | Murderer's Row #1
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All right. Okay. So the folks that we have here, I mean, the resume, if you were to stack
it, I guess, vertically, like we're going like geo strata layer, you have a Brian Callen,
You can check out his dates at briancallin.com.
Mad TV alumni has, I mean, I don't know how many podcasts, what are you up to, 19 a day now?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 19 a day.
Can't stop, won't stop, you know what I'm saying, bro?
Then kind of a little bit of a rivalry because you have SNL alumni, and of course has been all over the country.
You may have seen him in, I mean, I don't know how many films you've been, but you know, you're proud of stand-up.
Yeah, yeah.
They call Jim, they call Jim the rich man's bride.
Okay, hold on a second.
It's jimbrewer.com is where you can go see his dates, and then, of course you know him, you love him, he's on the show very often, nickdip.com, you can watch him on Mug Club.
Wait a minute, you went in a geo-what order?
So why am I last?
Yeah, I didn't like that.
Either way, I don't like that.
You're the Cretaceous period.
I thought you were saying if you stack up all of our accomplishments, it would reach the moon.
Well, it was geology, but it's for comedians, you guys, so it's fine.
I love geology.
I'd love to start on geology.
Do you want to start on geology?
Study of rocks.
See, a lot of people talk about carbon dating.
You strike me more as a selenium dating.
I can't believe you know me so well, bro.
I know.
It's almost like the back of my hand.
God, and what about selenium, man?
Are we still mining that in the Congo, guys?
Because these kids need to eat.
But seriously, though, this is one thing, honestly, I've been wanting to get you guys in a room together for a while now.
There really aren't many... Think about it.
Did you swallow a burp and you surprise yourself?
I'm just looking at the whole... I swallowed a joke.
I was going to make a racial crack.
Go ahead.
No, go.
I mean, that's why we're here.
No, I had nothing.
We're here for the racial cracks.
I'm kidding.
I just smelt sour milk in here.
You can just block that out like a rape.
Beat that.
Beat the R word, please.
Don't you love it?
I just pulled a Chelsea Handler, where I had you do a bit before, and then I took it and made it mine.
How do you know what Chelsea Handler does?
You watch that whore?
This is me hiding my face.
Yeah, well, because you have to go back to that club that venomous want to be a part of.
Bring her a box of black s**t.
That's actually her new book.
Are you there, God?
It's me, a woman who loves a box of black dicks.
And people talk about how strong and independent she is.
I'm kidding.
She's a terrific, very fun lady.
She seems like a good lady.
I like Chelsea.
Do you?
She's my friend.
You think everyone's her friend?
No, I've known Chelsea forever.
She's good people.
I knew Hitler for a few years.
That doesn't make him nice.
Well, so does Tim Kennedy.
He found him.
Look, this is pretty rare that you get this amount of people.
There used to be a lot of shows like this.
You think about, like, Tough Travel with Colin Quinn.
Nick was obviously their pioneer there.
I mean, you were regular.
Back on Sirius XM, of course, you had Opie and Anthony, where there was just sort of comedians in and out.
Now that's really sort of changed quite a bit.
Everyone here is at least sort of right to center right.
There's been a shift, almost a tectonic shift in the landscape of comedy because that wasn't a thing.
You say right, like most of us were just living our lives.
Go on both sides of the s**t right off the bat.
What's that?
Go on both sides of the s**t right off the bat, Brian.
I'm not, I'm just saying that the world started going crazy and all of a sudden I was just sticking to my traditional beliefs.
Traditional is a good word.
All I was saying is 2 plus 2 is 4 and all of a sudden I'm now not just right, I'm far right.
Right, right.
You can say you're a man if you're a woman and you just decide you are a nugget.
There are all these things that started happening where I couldn't even follow the rules because they kept coming down.
When would you say that started happening?
2017, 2000, probably 2007.
That's when you sort of started identifying more as traditional conservative.
That's when I started identifying as a woman, but with muscle.
Well, so do a lot of the men who identify as women.
Yes, but the George Floyd thing really went crazy.
Now, who's that?
Who's that?
Who's this George Floyd you're speaking of?
Oh, that nice black guy that did porn?
No, he's the boxer.
He does the Philly Shell.
Yeah, really good Philly Shell.
Philly Shell?
Yeah, but... It doesn't protect your neck.
I think what happened was I started seeing things like silence is violent.
First, I was told to shut up because I would never understand.
White man, yeah.
And then I was told that silence was violence.
So I had nowhere to go.
And I started to realize, your aim is actually destruction.
It's not even to talk to me.
And then I saw that the left wasn't even interested in talking to me.
And then COVID hit.
See, I'm Mr. Traditional myself.
I used to think that violence was violence.
I didn't know.
But they didn't say Simon Says.
You were about to say something there.
Well, no, no, no.
That too.
That was the first time I started seeing the lunacy of creating violence.
Clearly creating violence and division.
Listen, I did a show in Harlem in the early 90s.
If there's one police activity in any neighborhood, even the neighborhood I grew up, everyone's out in the street and everyone's videotaping.
I just, I thought it was bizarre that there weren't 20 camera angles and 300 people in the area, because I'm telling you right now, you go to any poor area, roll up in a cop car, and I'm telling you right now, everyone stops what they're doing, and they all come outside.
Well be careful, don't actually do that because that's highly illegal to be imitating an officer, but the point remains.
Yes.
Yeah, it's a great point. It's but I Disconnect and you would know these stats better than I do,
but I started seeing a disconnect in 2020 I think there were 10 million arrests and nine unarmed
black men were killed And and if you look at those cases each case was pretty egregious
to begin with where they were coming out You know, so there were a couple examples
So I went 10 million to 9 10 million arrests 9 million unarmed black men were shot
Those are pretty good odds. All of us would say you have it You got a 10 million 9 and 10 million chance of winning
whatever it is. Are you willing to bet a million dollars? I I'd put a million dollars on that.
I'll take those odds all day long.
I would, because I'm white.
The ten million you talk about are interactions with the police.
Yes, yes.
Just interactions.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Out of those nine, those are good.
Well, there's a reason they pull the unarmed statistic, because if you're armed, you're actually far more likely to be shot by the police as a white man.
The black man.
It's several multiples.
Unarmed, and here's what they don't tell you, is when we're dealing in the realm of statistics, armed or not, that changes the dynamic between a cop and a civilian.
Unarmed depends on how you're reacting to the cops.
Are you throwing hands at the cops?
Are you trying to run?
Are you getting physically violent?
Yeah, exactly.
So that's why they only pull the unarmed statistic, because the armed statistics are shockingly different.
For me, that was the first time.
I want to ask when Nick realized he was... I think, because Nick was always this way.
I mean, I go back and watch... When I realized I was kind of conservative?
Yeah.
when I bit the head of my pastor's d***.
That's sort of, that was the change.
What's that, second, third?
That's what happens.
I don't know, like he said, it's more about tradition.
My parents weren't political, common sense type people.
My first open mic was in 1987 or 88.
I'd say, yeah, and somebody comes up after my first open mic and goes, you're politically incorrect.
I didn't know what that meant at the time.
I'm like, okay, that's the guy goes that's like sort of the future comedy boy was he
wrong.
I mean, yeah, still not.
Did you guys did you guys all find what I found the most alarming was when I saw legacy
mainstream media all saying the same thing.
And they were telling me that 2 plus 2 is 16.
And I was like, wait.
Why is everybody saying this and it's not making... Why are you not mentioning the stats?
Why are you not looking at what we all know is the truth?
Well, I expected that.
What concerned me was when comics were stepping in.
When comics were throwing other comics under the bus.
And when it was a witch hunt.
I mean, you saw what happened with Louis C.K.
or all these people.
I mean, it was just like, they pull up the ladder behind them like Peter Dinklage.
Now with the midget stuff.
Yeah.
Were you about to say something, Nick?
I think it's dwarf.
Yeah, I forget, though.
He was talking about mainstream media and 2 plus 2 equals 16.
No, when I... Something racist.
To take a serious answer to your question, like, I started listening to Rush Limbaugh.
Yeah.
And people, you know... Oh, it's like... What are you, an idiot?
He's a fat lob!
Because that's what they were being told right out of the gate.
He's a racist!
And I kept listening, going, I haven't heard a mean word out of this guy's mouth.
No, yeah.
I heard nothing but... Then I shut my mouth at the comedy cell.
I remember, um, what's his name?
Funny, uh, improv off the top Jewish guy.
Brian Callen?
Okay, Jewish, never mind.
Jewish kid?
I mean, that doesn't narrow it down in comedy.
No!
Oh, come on!
Andy Kindler!
I mention Rush Limbaugh in the green room at Tough Crud, he goes, you don't f***ing listen to that guy!
And I go, you don't f***ing read Chomsky, do you?
Did he get quiet?
He didn't expect that was going to come out of me.
Oh, the dumb d***.
Yeah, he shut his f***ing mouth.
Well, the thing is, if you say Rush Limbaugh in the mirror three times, Andy Kindler shows up.
Yeah, no, exactly.
He's upset.
I can't believe a guy's like that.
And I love Kimba.
I think he's as funny as anybody to ever do this.
And he sort of said the same about me.
He doesn't like my politics or whatever.
But I wouldn't do that if I heard him talking left-wing horseshit.
I don't mind if there's a guy who disagrees with me.
I don't mind that.
I love the idea that someone like Andy Kindler has a different point of view and I might learn something.
I don't care about that.
You need that in this grand experiment.
But when they attack you for their point of view, and this is the thing that I would say the left does, and you guys have all experienced this to some degree, and it's completely untrue where they go, oh no no, it's fine, I don't disagree with this politics.
They'll say, it's that he's not funny.
That's what they'll use as the attack.
They'll say, no no, you're not funny.
All of a sudden people who thought you were funny think you're not funny, and they say it's not because of politics.
They treat you like you're a bad person.
It's not just that you're not funny.
I don't care anymore.
I don't care.
I know what's funny.
We were always funny.
There's a comic out there.
I don't even want to give him the credit.
He went out there and started a special.
Right out of the gate, talking about, oh, you know, we all got masks, and we all did what we were supposed to do, and blah, blah, blah.
And he went into a scenario where he goes, unlike a Jim Brewer, unlike, and he added two other guys, and he goes, and that's why it's okay to wish them to be dead.
I was like, that's some... Jesus.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who's the guy so I can hate him?
No, no, no, no, no.
We'll talk about him off air.
He doesn't have anything going.
But that's a great point.
On a larger scale, like they paint Trump as Hitler, so of course you'd want to kill somebody as horrible as Hitler, and then the rest of the sheep join in.
They're convinced that he is as bad as Hitler, so if we have to f***ing lock him up during the, you know, when the election comes along, I'm worried for Trump's, actually for his security.
Well that's how you got punched by a broad in Birkenstocks.
Because literally someone's probably showing up going, this guy's like Hitler and she feels emboldened.
I like to reframe the story.
You always start out there like I went three rounds.
I didn't say it was a split decision.
You gotta put in context.
Okay, all right, fine.
But she was, you know, she was crafty.
She's mentally ill.
I have pictures of her on my phone if you want to see.
I'm not shitting you.
No, no, I remember you were on my show, and you had a black eye.
Yeah, I'm looking at her dad like this, and the father set me up.
He's like, yeah, you really enjoyed your show, all of a sudden, bang.
What?
You ever get suckered, and you're in shock?
No, why?
It's a weird thing.
No.
If it was a guy, I would've... My head's always moving.
Yeah, yeah.
Even when you're talking to somebody?
Yeah, how do you do it?
Oh my God, they call me the Cobra.
Well, no, they call you the Parakeet, but the point is... Is that what it is?
She cracked me.
Yeah.
Damn.
Yeah, I remember.
I still have a flat spot, this f***ing b****.
Let me tell you something.
I know her name.
I know the old man's name.
And it's not over.
I'm not shitting you.
I tried to go through the legal channels.
They wanted nothing to do with it.
It was all broads at the f***ing courthouse.
Are you blind?
Are you in a wheelchair?
We can't help you.
And I go, but if I punch that girl in the face, you can f***ing help her, right?
And they just, you know.
He's gonna show up at the Croc store when she's there like two weeks from now.
You never got me down!
You never got me down!
Two weeks!
I got a flat spot on my face!
I got it in the back of my head.
I picture myself when I'm like 80 flying to New Jersey.
You don't feel it.
You get popped at a gig.
It's almost like...
After the show, Jimmy, I was shaking hands and the old man set me up.
I say old man, he was younger than me.
So he knew it was up.
These are the words he goes to me.
I really enjoyed the show, but my daughter wanted to punch you in the face.
He didn't even get the word.
That must have been her cue.
I'm not shitting ya!
Bang!
There was something wrong with that girl.
If it was a guy, I would have been knocked out.
Yeah, she was a liberal.
I mean, she almost cracked my cheek.
And I look right at him.
I'm seeing like two of him.
And I go, did you just f***ing set me?
Oh no, it's nothing like that.
And I know that's what went down.
Yeah, it's insane.
And like you said, she thinks she has a right to do that because she hated what I was saying.
She said I was racist.
And then she's crying after she hit me.
She's up in the lobby crying.
Oh no!
They became this weird thing too with white educated, this is like, there was this homogenous sort of education thing where white educated people.
Pushing, pushing.
I don't care, whatever, go, go, go.
Hit like if you want more, you know, whatever, we'll go continue on Mug Club.
Hit hate!
They had this idea that they had to change white people for black and brown people to be okay.
That was a new thing too, where it was like we have to purge the bad whites so that the black and white people, the black and brown people can fly free.
But the craziest thing is the place where that is, in my opinion, least necessary is comedy.
There is a disproportionate, and by the way, rightfully so, representation of black men specifically in comedy because it's a storytelling culture.
It's a culture where things are passed down.
It's a culture of busting balls.
A roasting culture.
That's right.
Like if you look at the top, you're not going to find anyone who argues if you have a top five list and you put Pryor up there as number one or number two.
If you put Rock, Chappelle up there, you're going to have three out of the top five.
Probably six out of the top ten.
Sports is the same way!
Yeah.
Sorry.
Well, yeah, but that's because of the tibia.
Oh, is that what it is?
10 out of 10.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Yeah, there's something called the sports gene, guys.
Yeah.
The brothers are funny.
Funny.
Because they don't care.
They're also not shackled by political correctness.
They can say whatever they want.
Well, I know.
I always would say that to Patrice, right to his face when he'd come off stage after saying these horrendous rape jokes.
Yeah.
And I go, yeah, you can get away with that f***ing s***.
And he goes, I know.
He wouldn't deny it, that's why I loved him.
He goes, I know, you can't go up there and f***ing try to... But wouldn't you say, I mean, in comedy, of all the places, like, that don't really require social justice, as far as, you know, ensuring outcomes, it's pretty diverse.
And it has been for a long time.
And we're still winning.
It has been diverse, but they're definitely, I believe they're losing the battle, though.
The whole censorship, they're doomed.
You have guys that try to get rid of Rogan, they try to do something with Chappelle, and neither one budged.
I think those are great people.
It just makes it stronger.
It gives you something to push back against.
If you want to make people funnier, that kind of censorship is good.
You put the mirror on them.
Dude, I mean, how can you not?
When we were kids, we'd go to the carnival and you'd pay extra money for the freak show to see the bearded lady.
And now you go to f***ing Starbucks and pay $5 so I can see all the bearded ladies I want.
Why is that not funny?
Why can't I say that?
Why am I all of a sudden some psycho right-wing fanatic?
Because, uh... Because someone didn't even put in the effort to shave.
Like, if we're gonna demand that we recognize, like, just shave.
You know, Moo Moo doesn't cut it.
Yeah, but dresses and beards don't go.
They've both been around forever.
It's not a good combo.
No, it's not.
But I think the cancel thing, too, it's if you're afraid of... if you're afraid of the machine to back you, or you don't have that fear... Yeah.
Like, I don't have a fear of beards.
What am I getting canceled of?
Yes.
Well, that's... What can you cancel me of?
I can say that better than you.
I don't have anyone back.
You two got... I mean...
Lucky enough, my career was so mediocre, I've been flying under the radar.
You know, every once in a while, you know, that tweet on the radio show.
You call it mediocre, I call it uncompromising.
I was going to say that.
You're a man who knows what he wants.
Channel 187 on Sirius XM.
Oh, that's where I can find you!
That's where you could find me.
But everyone knows, we've talked about people behind the scenes.
I remember when Joe Rogan, I talked about this when we did the press conference, but it's true.
Joe Rogan, I was watching this from Greenfield Park on my then-girlfriend's computer when he did the Carlos Mencia thing.
And he was talking, and Carlos Mencius was like, he's just mad because he's obsessed with me, I'm the Punisher!
And Jordan was like, you're not original, I'm not jealous of you!
I watched Dave Chappelle and Nick DiPaolo, so that motherf***er was brilliant, I want to go home and write!
And that's what he said, he said Dave Chappelle and Nick DiPaolo.
And that's when I went and looked up Nick, and I realized that I had seen him at the Just for Laughs, I just didn't know his name.
Yet I still can't get on Joe's show anymore.
I do it three times.
Brian, put the call in.
I give a text.
I just want to talk fights.
I've actually become a student.
I listen to him.
I beat up my wife twice a week.
I'm good with this UFC shit.
Got her in a Camaro last week.
But he never closes his hand.
He never closes his hand.
And there's the shake.
It goes by Islamic rule.
You can't see the bruises.
Jimmy brought up, you know, you said cancelling Rogan or Chappelle.
Chappelle was never in the danger of being cancelled.
Nope.
They will never cancel a guy, a black guy, at that height of fame.
It's too good.
Well, no, it's just... He's also telling the truth.
Well, big reason is you lose too much of the chorus of white women, because they feel like in the hierarchy they can't fully cancel Dave Chappelle, so he sort of gets to take that off the ledger.
Tracy Morgan says, I keep bringing this up, might be the third time on your show, but Tracy Morgan, perfect example.
Somebody asked him when his wife was pregnant, what if you have a gay baby?
I'd f***ing kill it.
Um, that really killed his career.
A year later, he has an animated series.
Yeah.
I mean, picture that coming out of your mouth, Jimmy, or a f***ing wife.
And it's been like that forever, folks.
I say, why that baby gay, his hair so short?
Why you got such short hair, gay baby?
My gaby.
I got a gaby.
I got a gaby.
I threw it in the trash.
Yeah, it really hurt his career.
Yeah, didn't he like mow over like nine people in a Lamborghini or something?
No, he banged into a lady at a red light.
He made a lot of money.
Why is she walking so slow?
That's a good white Tracy.
No, you're right.
I mean, when he said that, too, I remember thinking, but you know what?
Like, they'll say, again, behind closed doors?
When you're with black guys in comics, that's the kind of stuff they'll joke about all the time.
Well, that's your first mistake, going behind closed doors with them.
Well, you and the priests.
But that's the kind of thing that everybody jokes around about.
I mean, it's like... I'm kidding.
I don't know why we're acting like it's a... About killing your gay baby?
I don't know if that's, like, a genre.
That might be... I brought it up because it's a real-life example of the double standard.
And if somebody at Jimmy's level said that... Can you imagine if you were SNL and you said something like that?
No.
Done.
Needed.
You should, though.
You should have done it during the monologue.
I would have stood up and... This is a sketch called Killing Gay Babies.
I killed my gaby.
It's a sketch.
Hear me out, though, guys.
Hear me out.
I did it quick.
Well, let me, okay, so let me ask you this, because if you go back, everyone has always sort of bemoaned political correctness.
Now the term is often called, you know, people say woke.
So people on the left will say, oh, they've always complained about this, but it's just about accountability.
There's nothing new.
Do you really think, is this just kids these days, or do you think it's worse than ever?
No, I think kids are actually pushing back.
I think 18-year-olds and stuff like that are actually... Anytime you make something forbidden, in what I love about this country, is you start saying, you can't say there are only two genders.
That's a great way to get people to start saying, you know what, I'm looking around, there are only two genders.
Or, I don't think somebody who's 6'4 with a d*** should be swimming against women.
F*** off.
And that's what's going on more and more.
Let me ask you, Brian, but where do you see evidence of, like, 18-year-old exposure?
I hang out with 18-year-olds.
I comb high schools, because I got tight-fitting skin.
My girlfriend's brothers.
This lighting sucks, but in good lighting, when I wear a hat and the shade keeps my wrinkles, hides my laugh lines.
You know what?
This is a perfect example.
I was watching, I don't know how I missed it, on Hulu, the Mike Tyson series.
That's how you missed it, it was on Hulu.
Well, you know what, so remember when he yelled at that reporter, he's like, **** I'mma bend you over, you white ****.
And then he says, I'm... You couldn't live in my work.
Yeah, and then he says, I'mma **** you till you love me, ****.
So they include everything in the Hulu series, except they switch ****.
Really?
They include the n-word, they include new pussy, and to me it's just hilarious because it's like, well that makes you gay.
I'm gonna f**k you too, you love me, f**k it, and then I'm gonna take you to Red Lobster, you can have scampi, it is shrimp season, I will call you.
Did he say all that?
I don't know, but it's just like, he's like, he's squirting him.
But they changed the word f**k. That's the f**king, that's where they draw the line.
I'm telling you, ten guys run this f**king planet, eight of them are trans, I really believe that.
It's content, right, Jimmy?
A hundred percent.
People right now are gonna go and get their hat.
I couldn't believe they switched that word, though, to mess.
My father's 83, and I remember talking to him, and I said, he just quietly said, I was complaining like this, complaining about all this stuff.
Uh, yeah.
Um, I call him mommy because now he identifies, but I, but I, I remember I said, this is crazy like this, this woke shit, and I can't keep up with the rules and all that.
And we're doing, we're having a conversation and he just quietly looked at me and goes, won't last.
And I went, what?
He goes, it's impossible to apply at the level of detail.
It's just not going to last.
You'll see.
And that's all he said.
And I think that's the thing.
How do I apply these rules?
I can't.
After a while, there are more and more people sitting around talking this way, including people on the other side who are going, you know, women.
Not enough.
Yeah, I don't hear enough.
Maybe not.
I don't hear enough pushback.
As long as the money is... And there's too much time between now and then.
That's right, that's where it... Well, you know, I was talking to Rogan, I said, he said, we were saying this five years ago and it's still going on.
So, these ideas die hard.
You know, they die hard.
Joe, call me!
That's what Mick Jagger said.
I didn't know that.
He said old habits die hard.
Then he blew David Bowie.
You were about to say something.
Oh, for the love of God.
I don't remember.
Oh, OK.
I was trying to remember.
It's the wake, though, of bodies that would happen between now and then that's concerning.
Yeah.
I mean, that's one thing Nick has talked about.
And Nick, of course, he's being self-effacing there.
But he's always had respect of his peers because people know how good he is.
And that tells you that they know that he's foregone opportunities because of his point of view.
You know, I've been, I was on YouTube in 2006 and then started doing right-leaning videos in 2008, I believe, because I would get in trouble in Canadian clubs or universities, which is, you know, remember NACA?
Remember all that stuff?
NACA!
They thought because I was young, they were like, yeah, you'll do great at NACA.
I got one college.
Anthony Clark, remember him?
He came home with 88.
88 colleges signed him up at NACA.
But I don't know how you would do that today.
Who's going to go and select the people?
It's got to be a bunch of angry lesbians.
Why would you go?
Would anybody say yes?
It's literally, everybody knows those are indoctrination camps.
Unless you were a far left to believe that s***.
Why would you ever, as a comic, go to a...
Well back in the day it wasn't, you know, you have a lot of like frat people and it'd be kind of like, you know, that's where Dane Cook made his bones and Jimmy Fallon, Adam Sandler.
It was good money back then.
It was good money.
It was great money.
But today, yeah, how could you do it?
That's what I'm saying.
I got in trouble back then.
I did Clark College outside of Boston.
It's even liberal for Boston.
But this is when bad ideas percolate.
And then the people who have been indoctrinated come of age and get into positions in government, in journalism, in academia, in Hollywood, in writer's room.
All of a sudden you have this groupthink, this hive mentality, and that's kind of what happens.
Yeah, if you start teaching children at that age, and they go all the way up to college, and especially when you have this sort of issue where they all come from the same area of code, you can trace this back.
It's not a mystery as to how this sort of collective madness And it only could get this big and take on this momentum with help of the media.
That's it.
You couldn't, we have one, even Fox, you're gonna call that f***ing right-wing people?
No, of course not.
It's good for business.
That's all we've got.
Professional wrestling.
But it's good for business.
If you get this side to believe in this and pick up, and somehow we even get homosexuals to stop fighting one another, it'll be brilliant.
Send a thundersire.
Make sure all the media pushes out immediately.
Put it on the Time Magazine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Isn't that Klaus Schwab?
I remember magazines.
That's Klaus Schwab he's doing.
I remember magazines.
Dead on.
One, who's one day, will destroy the entire nation.
When is it when he gets fat that it's, you can hear it?
You know, when you hear his voice, you're like... It's like in his throat?
Yeah.
Blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub bl Yeah, but I think it's also important though to f**k where I don't do the both sides thing either because there is truth.
One truth.
It's not your truth, it's not my truth.
People say my truth, well there's a truth.
That's what it is.
They say.
The left says my truth.
good evil, left is just evil. Left is all, they're all nice words for evil. That's right. Starts with a language. But
what's good guys is that when you say that, like you just said
that there is the truth. When you have this f***ing madness over here, all it does is get it forces you to start
defining the bedrock you're anchored into.
It forces you to kind of solidify your political and moral philosophy.
That's not a bad thing, but it's when you start to see that there's a tidal wave of insanity coming your way and you gotta go, hey guys, I gotta batten down the hatches and I need to figure out what I'm standing on.
Let's make sure we got our guns lined up and clean and our powder is f***ing dry.
That's a good thing.
Like you just said, when you just said, there's not your truth, there's the truth.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
But the problem is when you have people in positions of power.
That's why I always say, you know, they say the military-industrial complex.
Remember Code Pink?
You don't hear a word from them now that Biden's in office.
Or when Barack Obama all of a sudden was in office.
Just for George Bush.
It was just like, code, we don't like George W. Bush.
That was all they did.
But, I mean, there's one president... They did it with Reagan.
I'm 61.
I've seen all this s***.
Reagan was a Nazi.
George Bush Sr.
was a Nazi.
But they all say the military-industrial complex.
That's why I say the media-entertainment-industry-big-tech complex.
If there is the truth, but it's... And those are neocons.
Well, no, no.
These people are all far left.
It's an agreed-upon lie.
It's an agreed-upon line that we are living.
That's the issue.
It's when NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, when you have people in, you know, whether it's at Johns Hopkins who then have been browbeaten into submission by the trans community, whether it's the CDC, the WHO, and then you have Facebook, Twitter, whether it's a Hunter Biden story, Big Tech, Google, YouTube, all of them.
They all say, no, no, hold on a second, there's no such thing as male-female, that's hate speech.
They all say, no, no, hold on a second, you're not allowed to discuss elections, or you're not allowed to question CDC.
They don't believe it, it's an agreed-upon line.
It doesn't matter how strong your arguments are until that gets broken apart.
They start, when you argue, and this is something that Raj Limbaugh said 40 years ago, when you argue with a liberal, they're starting at I'm superior to you.
That's where they start their arguments.
You start arguing with a comedian or somebody, they literally believe they're morally superior.
But Nick, I don't mind that.
That's as human as it gets.
What I go crazy over is what I would call chaos.
We are embracing... So when the CDC has...
When you can go as a man and get a drug that causes you to lactate, which allows you then
to breastfeed your child, and that milk, because of the drugs you have to take, actually causes
heart problems in a child.
And the CDC and everybody else isn't going, we got to stop this because this is evil,
which it is.
This is evil and insanity.
When you don't have that, now we're really in trouble.
Now what's happening is we are embracing actual insanity.
When you have men who can go to women's prisons and get two women pregnant, two female, and
before they get moved, we are dealing with insanity.
That's right.
When Scotland says, if you say you're a woman for three months and you don't have to have anything, you can have balls and a beard and get put into a woman's prison.
I don't know what the f*** we're doing anymore, but there are certain things I'm willing to fight for.
There are lines you're going to cross where I'm going to dig my heels in and I'm actually going to fight.
And I mean, you're my enemy, motherfucker.
I'm not interested in being, I don't want to meet you halfway.
This is why you say, how did I come out of the closet?
Why am I?
Why am I?
You want to call me right wing?
You want to call me a conservative?
I'm a proud conservative now.
Because that's the kind of shit I'm not going to compromise on.
Well, let's compromise on the mic.
I'm trying to get in there.
Sorry.
No, but I was, no.
Did you write that down?
I don't have to.
Did you?
It's right up here.
For crying out loud, you're one step away from banging the podium.
There's a PDF that I'm going to send out.
So Nick.
No, I was just going to say, but it all starts with that, you said this is only the truth.
And that's the attitude when they argue with you.
They start at, I'm morally superior.
So it doesn't matter what comes out of your mouth.
And that's why they're so quick to shut down speech.
Yeah, exactly.
They want to shut down the conversation.
That took a while to sink in.
I mean, I heard it years ago, but then when you watch it and it's so prevalent today, you're like, they really do think they're smarter.
How far back do you think it goes?
Because if you really think about it, just controlling people's emotions.
I'd say 78, 79.
It's so easy.
This is all media, all entertainment.
It's this simple.
Think of before everything first was...
Read all about it!
Read all about it!
You're like, oh s**t, f**k it, what are we reading about?
If someone's, what the f**k's going on?
Any human situation, if you come in to go, holy s**t, f**king, you're not gonna, before you can even think, they're like, now here's the deal, this person's like this, and this person's like that, oh yeah, f**k it.
And before you even get it, they've got your attention, and when you do argue with them, There is no arguing.
All they're doing is repeating everything that they've heard, and they've seen, and the magic word.
Yeah, they're tolerating you.
It is the greatest black magic voodoo, perhaps in human history.
You know, they say, oh, the king, whatever f***ing king, he used to come and take 20% of your money, and he'd come along Well, how much money you think we work for?
And what kind of gig is going where a government, which Marley, dude, I used to listen to Marley all the time, his interviews, he said, all governments are illegal.
And if you really just break down government, what the f*** is government there for?
What is government there for?
Two purposes here.
Tell us.
And it's really, the only purpose for the government is, my dad used this analogy.
Do you trust it anymore?
I trust the analogy.
I don't trust government.
I don't trust government.
You trust your dad.
He said a hockey, and you'll appreciate this, a hockey referee.
Now, not a soccer referee.
It doesn't even work with football or baseball where everyone jumps on the pitcher's mound like a bitch because some guy's got into a disagreement, right?
In hockey, the referee, he said, is there to keep the players safe, make sure the pace of the game is kept, otherwise he keeps his whistle in his pocket.
He says, so the government is there to keep us safe, meaning external threats or, you know, interior threats.
Like in a neighborhood.
He said, and to ensure that people are playing by the rules, meaning they're not stealing from people, outside of that, keeps the whistle in his pocket.
It's not the government's business.
And the analogy only works with the hockey referee.
So the legitimate purview of government would be, yep, some form of military, yep, some form of enforcement of regulations to ensure that people aren't being swindled, lied to.
Enforcing contracts, keeping your promises.
That's it.
They're supposed to stay out.
When you're at this state, we're like, what are you talking about?
We're talking about, we don't know what a man is, we don't know what a female is.
Well then, if military's in rule, and government's in rule, and nobody's stepping in to go, this is... I don't know where you all come from, but this is f***ed.
If nobody's stepping in, then I don't trust anyone that says they're government, they're this, they're whatever.
None of them are to be trusted.
And the thing that I worry about is, where does it go?
Because everyone talks about it.
All we do is talk about it.
We talk about it.
I know, that's what I say.
I even feel guilty doing my part.
What are we doing about it?
And what does the outcome look like?
Because it is...
It's not going, we're letting it happen.
I think a lot of conservatives are, and you know that's why Mug Club is, and by the way if you guys want to sign up, you guys can sign up and support all this because a lot of conservatives have kowtowed too.
They're like, oh they'll kill me last.
Right?
Tens of millions of dollars on YouTube, on Facebook, and we only know one way.
We said, well, no, okay, at least that's doing something where you're migrating people off of these platforms where you can hit them in the pocketbook.
You see it with Bud Light, right?
You saw it with Target.
The problem is the government, right?
The scope now is so large.
Yeah, it feels like this Leviathan that can't be addressed, but it does start with information, and that's why the central battle to me is still the battle of big tech and being able to ensure that everyone here can at least reach people with the truth or has a fighting chance.
Who's taking marching orders from who?
Because Colin Quinn says it's the corporations that give the White House their marching orders and I thought it was the other way around.
It's this unholy alliance at this point.
It's that lateral cooperation.
Well think about this, like Facebook, so really you have Facebook itself or Meta now, right?
Meta and then Alphabet is Google and YouTube.
These are more powerful Then, for example, the Roman Empire, right?
You look at the Ottomans, you look at Genghis Khan, you look at how much these people control, and you look at the benefits that they receive directly from the government with Section 230, right?
They get to receive the benefits of being an open platform, but they also get to be publishers and remove content editorialized.
You have to pick a lane.
And sometimes people will say, hey, it's really bad to have A or B thinking.
With this, there does need to be an A or B. Either you are a platform, in which case you cannot censor material, Or, you're a publisher.
Right?
But either way, you have to pick one.
Because if you start censoring material and saying, this is allowed, this isn't allowed, I don't care if you're doing it on behalf of the CDC, or whoever it is that day, you now are liable for whatever is on that platform, just like New York Times is.
Just like the Washington Post is.
That's the problem with 230.
It protects them like they're a utility.
Is that because it's a new problem that they're trying to figure out?
It's one that no one on the right has done anything about.
We have them on the show, and they grandstand, and they go, look, enforce it.
Pick a lane.
But would you say, though, that for me it's always like, secretly, a lot of these studios in Hollywood have fired their DEI officers because they were losing money.
So at the end of the day, if you start making these movies and you're taking politics into consideration to check boxes, and you put out a bunch of sh**ty movies and studios start losing, I don't know, a hundred million dollars, right?
But they're not switching, though.
That's where I'm saying, but they're not switching yet.
That's how you know it's propaganda.
It's ideological.
Exactly.
When they put the money aside, it's about the message.
And that's the definition of propaganda.
But how long does that last until you kind of, ideology is not going to pay the bills.
After a while, you're going to go, nobody's watching these movies and nobody wants to finance movies like that.
They're going to go, I did a movie, I'm telling you, I did a movie and I remember the conversation.
They were looking for staff, you know, they need makeup people.
And the one thing the producer said is he goes, look man, The director and the producer were saying, yeah, and they're not into this pronoun stuff.
They're not into this, all this, whoa, crazy s***.
So they were looking specifically and they had questions that were kind of secretly put into the interview to make sure that we weren't dealing with f***ing crazies.
Really?
Yes!
Because if you, if, think about when you go to work.
That's a good sign.
No, I think it's anecdotal.
No, because look, these people have either been fired or they've been sort of laid off.
Every DEI officer has been laid off for the most part.
You're talking about like an L.A.
film, right?
I'm talking about big studios.
Okay, well that's good.
Some of it's trickling in, but it's too little, too late.
Nobody wants to deal with it.
The Boat by Millions.
They started making movies about being normal again.
Sound of Freedom.
Look at what's happening with Maverick.
Top Gun.
America First.
It crushed.
And they're paying attention to that.
It was also a lot of support, people don't realize, from Big Voice Boxless.
With Maverick.
From what?
They were big fans of the film.
You know what?
Stephen?
I'm saying, you wanted to ask who's pulling the strings?
It's those people who are like, I used to chew tobacco.
Those commercials.
The anti-tobacco lobby.
I did not know that.
No, but I will tell you this.
I have been up against this.
I thought it was the Jews.
This one thing.
Them two.
You can't talk about the Jews.
Did you say chews?
Yes.
That's how the Germans say it.
Bigly chews.
That's what we're saying.
Must be the chews.
That's what we're saying.
Must be the chews.
Odin's chews.
Mr. Mohan.
No, but I used to talk about this on the show.
A long time ago, too.
What show is this?
No.
No, but people, because a lot of comedians had a blind spot, a little bit.
Now I came up, you know, so you said your first open mic was in 87.
Um, I'm trying to think back, mine would have been, uh, like, you know, early-mid 2000s.
I get it, you're younger than me.
No, but here's, but I remember, here's the thing, I remember talking with comedians who had been established, going like, yeah, well here's, they would say, it doesn't matter as long as you're funny.
I'm going, no, no, hold on a second, you don't understand, it's the people who are trying to get their foot in the door.
So at this point, I remember being told at open mics, you can't do that.
I remember one point.
club here in Texas that you just did recently where a guy who wasn't the
actual manager of the club but he would he was the guy who would tell the
manager he would say yeah yeah he came in and he did this stuff you know we
don't do that in this city it's like an oasis you can't talk about these topics
and I would even have the tapes and go no no the set went really well I would
tell you I've had a bombed I've eaten many times. Is this Canada or Canada?
and then even the United States.
But when you're coming up as a feature, when you're coming up as an emcee and you're trying to get stage time, they just weren't willing to take that risk.
I had been banned from colleges.
That's why I started doing the YouTube stuff because I was going, these are things that I, at that point, it was more free than the club atmosphere.
Now it's kind of tipping back a little bit.
But a lot of comedians, they come from the era where they would say, as long as you're funny, That's fine, but it's not true.
I can't imagine being someone today.
I think maybe now it's opening up a little bit.
No, you're right.
I know for a fact that these open mics in Brooklyn and even at the comedy store, from what I understand, there is a political agenda.
You're not getting up and doing this quote-unquote straight white guy comedy, whatever you want to call it.
Brooklyn?
Yeah.
You mean comedy?
There's no way I'm walking out there.
I'm not even able to cross the bridge of Williamsburg.
Isn't that crazy?
I know.
Exceeds him!
Immediately!
Exceeds him!
I don't think they sound that way in Bed-Stuy.
A white man over 50!
That always exists for some reason, and Jim's always, all his villains are speaking this way.
Well!
Well, that makes sense.
All the villains are white and English on TV now.
That's one of the ways the villains talk like this.
Yes, always.
But, uh, Steve, yeah, Cat, Cat Tanf a couple years ago went to Brooklyn to do, you know, two times they dumped water over it.
Was it a wet t-shirt contest?
No.
Oh, Steven, come on.
He's not out there.
He doesn't know.
I don't know.
I don't live out in the real world, man.
Don't fight me.
The fight's out there, dammit.
I don't know.
I think it's feminism.
I've been saying that.
I know.
Me and Colin Quinn had this argument for years.
He would say, no it's the race thing.
I said at the core of it, just watch any commercial.
I was on this way before anybody.
Any commercial how the guys emasculated.
I was saying this in the f***ing 80s.
And then now you can't even watch a movie It is unbelievable.
Well, it was like telling you I was watching a movie that was fine.
Oh, it was that series The Offer.
Did you watch that about the making of The Godfather?
No, you didn't tell me that the feminism permeated it.
This must have been before it happened.
You just told me to watch it.
I didn't tell you about that?
No.
No, Pains Taking Detail, great series until about the second episode where the woman who's like the co-star goes off on some on some tangent that a feminist would have wrote yesterday.
Yeah.
You know this is supposed to be in the late 60s.
Right.
It sticks out they might as well have had a Martian walk by.
Yeah.
It would have been more realistic.
The Pains Taking Detail for the you know for And then they throw in, whether it's a commercial, I watched it last night, same thing, a couple movies at the hotel.
I just watched the new Predator film, Prey, because they switched it now from Predator to Prey, and he gets beaten by a broad with a bow and arrow and a tomahawk with a piece of bungee cord on it.
Yeah, lioness.
And she's like, I want to go out and hunt, and I'm like, you have to gather the berries.
I want to hunt because you say that I can't.
Do you have any idea how little tolerance the Comanche tribes would have for that?
They'd be like, oh really?
You want to get us all killed?
We're gonna tie you to a post and just be thankful we don't light you on fire and sing what makes the red man red, okay?
Shut up, stay home, and if you want to put some war paint from the wild lowbush blueberries because they have greater dye, then fine, we'll do that.
Lowbush blueberries have greater dye?
Yeah, but they're very hard to cultivate.
I learned so much with you.
They used to dye their clothes with wild blueberries.
But hold on, Jim had something before.
The brilliance of propaganda through film, TV, everything.
I was just even on, I don't know what flight I was on, and they had a blue planet.
Oh yeah, yeah.
It's unbelievably shot though.
Incredible!
But what it does, it brings you in, and you know, whatever.
They talk about the f***ing mountain goat, and the elk, and the... Twice, every episode ends with, but then climate change!
We'll never see a goat again!
Dude, I saw them push climate change and being gay.
There's another episode... Oh, I swear to God!
They were picking on the gay goat?
F***ing bird!
has his whole scenario right and he goes to to pick up the chick and the chick's ready to go with him and then all of a sudden a bunch of other guys are like We're going to have to fight if you're going to bang the chick.
This is how it goes.
And so he gives up and he goes somewhere else.
And what happens?
He tracks another guy.
And they ended and he goes, and then they'll spend a lifetime with the male bird, which in the end is probably better than just being alone.
Unbelievable.
You've been studying birds!
Unbelievable.
And they're gonna live together being gay.
This is blue pan- It's the West African incel thing.
But it's an important point because like what I saw with the feminism movement and the same thing with this is that like in climate change is it's one thing to be a feminist and say we want equal rights, right?
I want to be able to vote.
I want rights to my own property.
All that stuff.
Steven!
They had a big march over it.
But something else changed.
Third wave and quote-unquote fourth wave feminism changed from, we want equal rights to, men are trying to kill us.
Bullshit.
In a war against men.
Bullshit.
I'm saying that was the narrative.
It was never right.
It was never right.
I have women out there and they educated me.
It's always been women.
We're there against women voting.
Now let me explain to you exactly what it is.
No, people don't realize this.
I believe it was 1920, early 1920s.
No, what happened is for a man to vote, for a man to vote, he had to pay taxes, own property, be in the draft, mandatory bucket duty, which means volunteer firefighter service.
It was a socialist movement catering to women to get and say, by the way, you can get the vote.
Most women didn't want the vote because they thought it came with all those responsibilities.
They said, no, no, you're not gonna have to do any of that.
They said, really?
So they got the vote.
There was a period of time where men still had those responsibilities to vote, but women didn't.
And the first thing they did, the very year, prohibition.
Because they couldn't help themselves in sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong.
Right away, like they had the, lips that touch liquor never touch ours.
So my point is, the basis was never equal rights, it was special exceptions.
It was not, we want to vote, and we're going to be in the draft, and we're going to do volunteer firefighter service, and we're going to pay taxes.
It was, there was a coexistence of the socialist party, the temperance movement, and the suffragette movement, and that's why most women didn't want the vote.
They should vote, but they should all have the same responsibilities.
Well, whatever, I understand.
I'm just saying- And they vote wrong.
There was this shift where women were now having to fight men off because men were trying to kill them.
And then you had these things that trend like, wait, what?
Kill men.
Yeah, we're all rapists.
That was the message.
Rape culture, all this stuff, the whole Me Too movement, all of that stuff was men are trying to rape and kill you.
And that's what we have to fight now.
And that's how women were taught.
And that's how they are taught.
So that's the difference between the old school feminism and the new, new wave feminism.
But now they actually have to deal with actual male rapists in their prisons who identify as women.
By the way, that's a good example.
We were banned.
We were suspended from YouTube because we did the joke.
Alex Jones is the Angel Gabriel coming down saying, like, hey, I bring you tidings of, oh, I'll deliver a virgin birth.
No, your cellmate's going to rape you.
Repeatedly.
It was a sketch and we had a trans... and then YouTube said you can't talk about this because at the time it had not been fully confirmed by trial that the man had raped a cellmate.
So we were suspended for two weeks for doing a joke about something that actually happened.
There you go.
Anyway, sorry.
But climate change is the same thing, right?
It's like you're gonna... we're gonna die if we don't do something right now.
It's all fear-based.
Oh, come on.
I do love watching it though.
It's such a great show to watch, but yes, all the time.
It's just, yeah.
No, watch it.
Watch everyone.
Yeah.
They always say climate change.
Ah, forget what the bird one is.
So funny.
But they're clearly pushing a gay agenda.
They're very sly about it.
This is unbelievable.
Homosexuality exists across many species.
No, they're very sly about it.
And it's like, no it doesn't.
Yeah, they don't show you.
Have you seen the problem now with the chimpanzees?
That are, sorry, look, well, but they're doing, they're Uh, fornicating with the bullfrog's mouth.
Have you seen this?
What?
Dude, I was on Rogan, and he showed me that.
Did he?
Yes, he showed me, and I went, wait a minute.
What the?
Is this Animal Planet?
It's an ongoing thing.
Apes do that.
So they always say this, they go like, homosexuality exists across different species, but they don't show you.
It's like, oh yeah, so we're just like apes.
They don't show it.
Face-banging a frog, right?
The interspecies, like if Harvey Weinstein was doing that on his casting couch, they would say, well, lock him up.
Of course, he's face-banging another species that we are not.
I watched an orangutan catch a chicken in Indonesia, and I watched an orangutan grab a little, a three-year-old orangutan, and it was an adolescent male, and it raped the three-year-old, the baby, up in the tree.
We're just apes.
We're apes.
Yeah.
So you're saying that feminists are... He'll draw the connection.
No, I wasn't doing a racial thing.
No, this isn't racial.
No, I was just saying when he said, you know, all men are potential rapists.
That's what the feminists say.
Hey, even a broken clock is right.
And all women are potentially, right?
What's the term?
You guys thought I was going with some race thing.
No, I don't.
What was it?
I'm just saying.
There's a reason there are rape laws.
What?
And I'm that reason.
Listen.
No.
I am the law!
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