March 29, 2021 - Louder with Crowder
03:39:43
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| You see your hands? | |
| Stay in the car, let me see your other hand! | |
| Let me see your other hand! | |
| Both hands! | |
| Put your fucking hands up right now! | |
| Let me see your other hand! | |
| Put your hand up there! | |
| Put your fucking hand up there! | |
| Jesus Christ, keep your fucking hands on the wheel! | |
| Keep your fucking hands on the wheel! | |
| I'm sorry, Mr. Officer. | |
| I got shot. | |
| That's my friend. | |
| I'm sorry, Mr. Officer. | |
| I'm so sorry. | |
| God dang, man. | |
| Man, I got shot the same way, Mr. Officer, before. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| Man, I'm so sorry, Mr. Officer. | |
| Man, dang, man. | |
| Man, I got shot the same way as I was before. | |
| Okay, well when I say let me see your hands, you put your fucking hands up. | |
| I'm so sorry, Mr. Officer. | |
| You got him? | |
| Man, dang, man. | |
| Put your hands on top of your head. | |
| Put my hands, Officer. | |
| Man. | |
| The last time I got shot like that, Mr. Officer. | |
| Hands on top of your head. | |
| Hands on top of your head. | |
| Step out of the vehicle and step away from me, alright? | |
| Step out and face away. | |
| Step out and face away. | |
| Please don't shoot me. | |
| Please, man. | |
| I'm not going to shoot you. | |
| Step out and face away. | |
| I'm going to get out of here, man. | |
| Please don't shoot me, man. | |
| I just lost my mom, man. | |
| Step out and face away. | |
| I'm so sorry. | |
| Step out and face away. | |
| Please don't shoot me, Mr. Officer. | |
| Please. | |
| Don't shoot me, man. | |
| Step out and face away. | |
| Can you not shoot me, man? | |
| I'm not shooting you. | |
| Step out and face away. | |
| Okay. | |
| Please. | |
| Please. | |
| Please, man. | |
| Please. | |
| Please. | |
| I didn't know, man. | |
| Stop. | |
| Get out of the car. | |
| I didn't know, Mr. Officer. | |
| I didn't know, man. | |
| Get out of the car. | |
| I didn't know, Mr. Officer. | |
| I didn't know, man. | |
| Get out of the car. | |
| I didn't know, Mr. Officer. | |
| I didn't know, man. | |
| Get out of the car. | |
| I didn't know, Mr. Officer. | |
| I didn't know, man. | |
| Get out of the car. | |
| I didn't know, Mr. Officer. | |
| I didn't know, man. | |
| Get out of the car. | |
| I didn't know, Mr. Officer. | |
| I didn't know, Mr. Officer. | |
| I didn't know, Mr. | |
| Hey! | |
| Don't come back! | |
| Stay in the car! | |
| Stop resisting man! | |
| Yes you are! | |
| Hey, you come back, stay in the car. | |
| Stop resisting man. | |
| Yes you are. | |
| Get us a wall. | |
| Who, me? | |
| Yes. | |
| What am I doing? | |
| We're figuring out what's going on. | |
| Drop the bag. | |
| Figuring out what's going on? | |
| What's your problem? | |
| It ain't us. | |
| I just got my phone fixed. | |
| We was getting a ride, sir. I just got my phone fixed. You can ask Adam on me. Adam on me. Are you good? | |
| Do you have ID? | |
| You can ask Mr. Adam if I meet him. | |
| I'm on 38th and Chicago. | |
| 320, report for us. | |
| You can ask Mr. Adam if I meet him, sir. | |
| I just came and bought a tablet. | |
| And when I bought a tablet, it didn't work. | |
| Oh my God! | |
| He didn't even do nothing! | |
| Here you go, sir. | |
| Do you have ID? | |
| No, I don't. | |
| My name's Shawanda Lane Hill. | |
| Fuck, no. | |
| Sir, I just came over to get my phone to see if I have a purse or nothing. | |
| And my daughter is on her way to get me. | |
| What's his deal? | |
| I don't know. | |
| That's my ex. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Why is he getting all squirrely and not showing his companions and just being all weird like that? | |
| Because he's been shot before. | |
| Well, I get that, but still, when officers say get out of the car, is he drunk? | |
| Is he on something? | |
| No, he got a thing going on. | |
| I'm telling you about the police. | |
| What does that mean? | |
| We have problems all the time when they come, especially when that man is with that gun like that. | |
| It's been one. | |
| He's pretty good. | |
| George Floyd. | |
| He's a good guy. | |
| George Floyd, she said. | |
| I don't know if it's George. | |
| What's your name? | |
| My name is, oh, my name! | |
| Your name, yeah. | |
| Shawanda Renee Hill. | |
| Can you spell it? | |
| S-H-A-W-A-N-D-A. | |
| S-H-A-W-A-N-D-A. | |
| He got it right, sir. | |
| Yeah, he okay. | |
| Put him in the car. | |
| Shawanda what? | |
| Hill. | |
| R-E-N-E-E. | |
| What's your last name? | |
| Yeah, he okay. | |
| Hill. | |
| Hey, put him in the car. | |
| Mr. Adam... | |
| Shawanda what? | |
| Renee. R-E-N-E-E. | |
| What's your last name? | |
| And your date of birth? | |
| If y'all coming to get me, 1-27-75. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay, well... | |
| So here's the thing. | |
| Someone passed a fake bill in there. | |
| We come over here. | |
| He starts grabbing for the keys and all that stuff. | |
| Starts getting weird, not showing us his hands. | |
| I don't know what's going on. | |
| So you're coming out of the car. | |
| So just hang tight right here. | |
| Stay right here, please. | |
| Ouch! | |
| Ouchie, man! | |
| Are you on something right now? | |
| I'm not on nothing! | |
| Let's go. | |
| Let's go. | |
| Yes! | |
| You want something right now? No, nothing. You actually already. Let's go. Let's go. | |
| Yes, yes, I was just moving earlier. Let's go. | |
| All right, let me calm down now. | |
| It's a little better now. | |
| Keep walking. | |
| Okay, do me one favor, man. | |
| No, when we get to the car, let's get to the car, man. | |
| Come on. | |
| Dang, man. | |
| Oh, man. | |
| God, I don't need it, man. | |
| Please, man, I don't need it, man. | |
| Here. | |
| I want to watch that car too. | |
| So get up in the front locker. | |
| I don't need that. | |
| Stand up. | |
| Stop falling down. | |
| I'm about to fall again. | |
| Stand up. | |
| I'm about to fall again. | |
| Stay on your feet and face the car door. | |
| Please, man. | |
| You get a second? | |
| Please. | |
| No. | |
| I don't need that. | |
| Get out the car. | |
| I just want to talk to you, man. | |
| Please, let me talk to you. | |
| Please. | |
| You ain't listening to nothing I'm saying. | |
| Can you watch that car? | |
| Just make sure no one goes in it. | |
| I hear you, but you are going to face the door right now. | |
| Listen up. | |
| Stop. | |
| I don't do anything. | |
| That's the only thing y'all tell me to do, man. | |
| I'm not a listener, man. | |
| I'm not. | |
| I'm not. | |
| You can ask him. | |
| He know me. | |
| Check that side. | |
| God, man. | |
| I don't do nothing like that, y'all. | |
| Why is it going on like this? | |
| Look at my wrist, Mr. Officer! | |
| I'm not that kind of guy! | |
| Mr. Officer! | |
| I'm not that kind of guy! | |
| Please! | |
| I'm not that kind of guy, Mr. Officer! | |
| Please! | |
| Please, man! | |
| Don't leave me by myself, man! | |
| Please! | |
| I'm just claustrophobic! | |
| That's it! | |
| Well, you're still going in the car. | |
| Anything sharp on you? | |
| I won't do nothing to hurt y'all, Mr. Officer. | |
| You found anything sharp on you? | |
| No, sir. | |
| Not even like a comb or nothing? | |
| Nothing, Mr. Officer. | |
| I don't have nothing. | |
| Why y'all doing me like that, Mr. Officer? | |
| Please crack it, do it for me and stuff, man. | |
| I am claustrophobic for real, Mr. Officer. | |
| You got him? | |
| Could you please crack it for me, please? | |
| Yes, I'll crack it. | |
| Stay with me, man. | |
| I will, I will. | |
| Please stay with me, man. | |
| Thank you. | |
| God, man. | |
| I didn't know all this was gonna happen, man. | |
| Please, man. | |
| I didn't want my ass beat. | |
| Wrong with none of y'all, man. | |
| Nothing. | |
| You got that inside in your pocket real quick? | |
| I'm listening. | |
| I understand that people do stuff. | |
| Alright, he's good. | |
| This is John's work. | |
| He knows nothing but work. | |
| Okay, okay, okay. | |
| Grab a seat. | |
| Guys, I'm having trouble walking because that was my car. | |
| I'll roll the windows down, okay? | |
| Please, man. | |
| Please don't do this. | |
| Take a seat. | |
| I'm going in, mister. | |
| I'm going in. | |
| No, you're not. | |
| I gotta go in. | |
| Take a seat. | |
| Grab a seat, man. | |
| I don't believe you, mister. | |
| Take a seat. | |
| I'm not that kind of guy. | |
| I'm not that kind of guy, man. | |
| Take a seat. | |
| Y'all, I'm gonna die in here. | |
| Take a seat. | |
| I'm gonna die, man. | |
| You need to take a seat right now. | |
| And I just had COVID, man. | |
| I don't want to go back to that. | |
| Take a seat. | |
| Okay, I'll roll the windows down. | |
| No. | |
| Hey, listen. | |
| Dang, man. | |
| Listen. | |
| I'm not that kind of guy. | |
| I'll roll the windows down and stick my legs in, all right? | |
| I'll lock the air on. | |
| Y'all need to stop. | |
| Look at that. | |
| Look at that. | |
| Look at it. | |
| We can fix it, but not while you're standing up. | |
| Okay, man. | |
| God, y'all doing me bad, man. | |
| Man, I know. | |
| I don't want to try to win. | |
| I don't want to try to win. | |
| I don't want to win. | |
| I'm claustrophobic. | |
| I'm claustrophobic and I got anxiety. | |
| I don't want to do nothing now. | |
| Man, I'm scared as fuck, man. | |
| When I start breathing, when I start breathing, it's going to go off on me, man. | |
| Okay, okay, okay. | |
| Let me count to three. | |
| Let me count to three and I'm going in. | |
| Please. | |
| I'm not trying to win. | |
| I'm not trying to win. | |
| I'll get on the ground or anything. | |
| I can't stand this shit, man. | |
| He know it. | |
| He know it from the start. | |
| It was hard. | |
| Okay, can I talk to you, please? | |
| It was hard. | |
| We can talk. | |
| I'm claustrophobic. | |
| I'm telling you, but you're not working with me. | |
| God, I'm claustrophobic! | |
| Get in the car! | |
| Get in the car! | |
| No, you're not getting in the car! | |
| I'm claustrophobic! | |
| Get in the car! | |
| Okay, man, okay! | |
| I'm not a bad guy, man! | |
| Get in the car! | |
| I'm not a bad guy! | |
| I can't joke! | |
| I can't breathe! | |
| Bleed it! I hope I'm not double! | |
| Bleed it, I hope I'm not double! | |
| Bleed, snitch, bleed! | |
| Take a seat! | |
| Bleed, mate! Bleed! | |
| No, I have to take a seat! | |
| I can't! I can't jump! | |
| I can't breathe without it! | |
| Bleed! Bleed it! | |
| My wrist! | |
| My wrist, man! | |
| My wrist, man! | |
| Please! | |
| I can't take this, man! | |
| I can't! | |
| I'm gonna lay on the ground! | |
| Hit me, that's why. | |
| I'm going down. | |
| I'm going down. | |
| I'm not going to breathe in. | |
| Bro, you looked out of heart attack shit, man. | |
| Get in the car. | |
| I'm not going to breathe. | |
| Get in the car. | |
| I'm not going to breathe. | |
| I can't breathe! | |
| I can't breathe Please, man! | |
| I can't fucking breathe! | |
| Hey, come on out! | |
| I can't fucking breathe! | |
| Yeah, just when you get up the... On the ground! | |
| I appreciate that, I do. | |
| You gotta turn around. | |
| I can't breathe! | |
| Thank you. | |
| Mama! | |
| You're the last guy. | |
| Alright. | |
| Alright. | |
| Oh my God. | |
| I can't believe this. | |
| You're a rescue. | |
| All right. | |
| All right. | |
| Oh my God. | |
| I can't believe this. | |
| I can't believe this, baby. | |
| Mama, I love you. | |
| I love you. | |
| I love you. | |
| Reese, I love you. | |
| You got hobble? | |
| Yeah, my kids, I love them. | |
| Mine's in my side. | |
| It's listed. | |
| It's labeled. | |
| It says hobble. | |
| It's on the top. | |
| I can't breathe for nothing, man. | |
| It's cold-blooded, man. | |
| Mama, I love you. | |
| I'm doing a lot of hobbling. | |
| Mama I love you. | |
| I can't do nothing. | |
| My face is gone. | |
| I can't breathe man. | |
| I can't breathe man. | |
| Please! | |
| Please let me stand! | |
| Get up to the sidewalk please, one side or the other. | |
| My face getting bad! | |
| Oh my God! | |
| Hopefully Park's still sitting in the car. | |
| He was actually very able to see anyone else in there. | |
| I'm assuming so. | |
| He wouldn't get out of the car. | |
| He wasn't following instructions. | |
| Yeah, it's across the street. Park's watching. | |
| Two other people with him. | |
| I probably still have it. | |
| Deep breath. | |
| I can't breathe. | |
| You're talking. | |
| Deep breath. | |
| I can't breathe. | |
| I can't breathe. | |
| I'm about to die. | |
| Relax. | |
| I can't breathe my face. | |
| Just get up. | |
| He's gotta be on something. | |
| What do you want? | |
| I can't breathe. | |
| Please believe me. | |
| I can't breathe shit. | |
| Get up and get in the car, man. | |
| I will. | |
| Get up and get in the car. | |
| I can't move. | |
| Get up and get in the car. | |
| You found a weed pipe on him? | |
| There might be something else with it. | |
| Might be like PCP or something. | |
| Is that the shaking of the eyes, right, as PCP? | |
| Or their eyes, like, shake back and forth really fast? | |
| My stomach hurts. | |
| My neck hurts. | |
| Everything hurts. | |
| I need some water or something. | |
| Please. | |
| Please. | |
| I can't breathe, officer. | |
| You're gonna kill me. | |
| Excuse me, ma'am. | |
| Come on, man. | |
| I cannot breathe. | |
| I cannot breathe. I cannot breathe. | |
| Ahh! Ahh! Ahh! | |
| You... Ahh! Ahh! | |
| They'll kill me. They'll kill me. | |
| I can't breathe. | |
| Ahh! Ahh! | |
| They'll kill me. | |
| I can't breathe. | |
| I can't breathe. | |
| Please, sir. | |
| Please. | |
| I just worry about the delirium or whatever. | |
| That's fine, I'm just coming. | |
| I just worry about the delirium or whatever. | |
| That's probably a million dollars. | |
| Okay, that's awesome. | |
| Well, it's just hard to get them off the ground. | |
| They're being a bum right now. | |
| You can't get them off the ground, bro. | |
| You can't get them off the ground. | |
| You're being a bum right now. | |
| He's enjoying that shit. | |
| He's enjoying that shit. | |
| He's a fucking bum, bro. | |
| He's enjoying that shit right now, bro. | |
| You could've fucking hit him in the car by now, bro. | |
| He's not in the mood for this shit. | |
| He's enjoying the shit that's being played. | |
| His body language is crazy. | |
| . | |
| You think that's cool? | |
| You know that's bogus right now, bro. | |
| You know it's bogus. | |
| You came in like a major, you know, boss, bro. | |
| You're not in a position to rest right now. | |
| You know? | |
| Yeah, I think he's pissed off. | |
| You're in a position to sleep right now, bro. | |
| You think that's cool? | |
| You think that's cool, you know, right? | |
| What's your position? | |
| The police is available at the exit start for a small town. | |
| Next door to 2313 Washington Street. | |
| Is that a right turn? | |
| Yeah, I mean, I know you might be a little scratched, but I'll survive. | |
| I'll survive. | |
| He's breathing. | |
| All right. | |
| Get the fuck out of here. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| I'm not leaving, bro. | |
| Get the fuck out of here. | |
| Don't come over here. | |
| Don't come over here. | |
| Up on the sidewalk. | |
| He's not responsive right now. | |
| He's not responsive right now. | |
| He's not responsive right now, bro. | |
| Look at him. | |
| He's not responsive right now, bro. | |
| Yo, look at him. He's not responsive right now, bro. | |
| Bro, are you serious? He's gonna do that? | |
| He's gonna put that on his head, bro? | |
| Is he breathing right now? | |
| Check his pulse. | |
| Check his pulse. | |
| Check his pulse now. | |
| Check his pulse, bro. | |
| Check his pulse, bro. | |
| What is that? | |
| What do you think that is? | |
| You told him to call when he's doing okay? | |
| You called when he's doing okay? | |
| You saw your phone. What are you doing? Okay, you thought you probably doing. | |
| Okay, bro. I am. Okay. | |
| You're a bum, bro. | |
| You're definitely a bum, bro. | |
| What's up, Chet? | |
| Chet, the man ain't moved yet, bro. | |
| The man ain't moved yet, bro. | |
| He's not moving yet, please. | |
| Bro, you're a bum, bro. | |
| You're a bum, bro. | |
| You're definitely a bum, bro. | |
| 330, EMS is at Portland at 36. | |
| They were advised to close the door. | |
| Bro, he has not moved yet. | |
| They were advised what? | |
| sir. Yeah. Okay. That's f you their updated locati | |
| in the man. Yeah. Yeah. Y Oh, I didn't know that. | |
| Bro, bro, can you see that? | |
| You see that thing, bro? | |
| Bro, bro, can you see that? | |
| You see that? | |
| You see that You know, I'm gonna beat your neck! | |
| Are you serious? | |
| this card just to get th Let me dressing down. Ye | |
| so you can go back there in front of you bro. Yea | |
| your money now, bro, deux that's right now, bro. Y | |
| I don't know. | |
| Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. | |
| I'm just gonna go. I'm not here. I think I'll make it back. | |
| I'm so sorry! | |
| He's a good guy. | |
| He has to get out of the way. | |
| Don't touch me! | |
| He does? | |
| He's a good guy. | |
| He has to get out of the way. | |
| Don't touch me! | |
| He's a good guy. | |
| He has to get out of the way. | |
| Don't touch me! | |
| He does? | |
| He has to get out of the way. | |
| It would be disgusting. | |
| It wouldn't be funny at all. | |
| Oh, it would be wonderful. | |
| Good morning! | |
| We're starting a little early today, by the way. | |
| You can use the hashtag, is it Crowder Chauvin Trial? | |
| There it is. | |
| I keep saying Crowder Chauvin because I'm French-Canadian. | |
| Crowder Chauvin Stream. | |
| I speak it properly. | |
| I'm an affected bitch. | |
| So we have Gerald here, we have Quarterback Garrett here, we have Dave Landau. | |
| You can follow him on the Twitter at Dave Landau, right? | |
| Or Landau Dave. | |
| At Landau Dave. | |
| Landau Dave. | |
| And that's wonderful because we are going to be covering the Derek Chauvin trial, the opening statements here today. | |
| Let us know. | |
| We may be covering it throughout the week. | |
| I don't know how long it will go. | |
| This is kind of a little free flow, but you can follow Dave because you can't follow me on Twitter. | |
| I've been suspended again for one reason. | |
| Here's what's funny about this one. | |
| So I was suspended last week, and then I was unsuspended, and I posted one tweet, which resulted in my next suspension, immediately. | |
| And the tweet was, So, Twitter has publicly stated to Congress that it fairly enforces its policies and provides detailed information about alleged violations. | |
| Yesterday, they suspended me for the third time in a month, refusing to list a reason or a tweet in question. | |
| And I think we have the overlay here. | |
| They never gave me a reason. | |
| It says reason or violation, and it's blank. | |
| You would think, like, just put in a middle finger emoji. | |
| Just make something up. | |
| Just make something up. | |
| Racism, blah blah blah. | |
| But the point here is, the only tweet that went up from my previous suspension to my new suspension is the one criticizing Twitter for the suspension. | |
| So now Twitter will suspend you for simply pointing out that they are suspending people without cause. | |
| There's clearly no violation unless it's saying that, look, they've testified saying that they give you a reason. | |
| So you know what? | |
| Whatever. | |
| Well, it started as 24 hours, right? | |
| And then it moved to 7 days. | |
| Now it's 6 days. | |
| So if you try to log in, does it reset the clock every time again, like last time? | |
| I have no idea. | |
| I really just use Twitter now, I put a joke occasionally, but mainly just for advertisements for shows. | |
| Right. | |
| Because why bother? | |
| Right. | |
| It just upsets everybody, no matter what you say. | |
| Right, well especially Jack Dorsey. | |
| Yes, he's a real prick. | |
| He's an absolute prick on his island with his blood-stained volleyball. | |
| WELCOME! | |
| Oh my gosh. | |
| It's the worst beard ever. | |
| You shouldn't grow it if that's what it looks like. | |
| Yeah, you should cut it off. | |
| We don't have a drinking game today. | |
| No. | |
| We have a fentanyl game. | |
| Oh boy. | |
| Oh my. | |
| Oh my word. | |
| Okay, we're going to give you a little bit of context. | |
| Did you see what I was doing in the bathroom? | |
| Is that what this is about? | |
| We do have security cameras in the bathroom. | |
| It's a private business. | |
| If you don't like it, take a walk. | |
| Sobriety over. | |
| So, we want to watch this along with you, and of course, if you want to follow me, you can join me at MugClubLadderwithCrowder.com slash MugClub. | |
| Opinions here before we go to the trial. | |
| Let me give you a little bit of setup, and then we'll go to... That's why we just showed you the full 20-minute arrest. | |
| We have some technical issues, I guess. | |
| Let me know, Tokunawa, once we're good. | |
| Give me a thumbs up so that I don't feel like I'm walking a tightrope here. | |
| So Chauvin... Now, Chauvin... Sorry, if I say Chauvin, it's just because... Chauvin is psycho! | |
| Tabarnak, it's Chauvin. | |
| It's like... | |
| Hey! | |
| I'm gonna show you how to make a fentanyl! | |
| Oh, geez. | |
| I'm not sure what you said, but it was horrible. | |
| I actually have a lot of fans in French Canada. | |
| Do you really? | |
| Yeah, there are apparently some conservatives out there. | |
| Do you speak au francais? | |
| I do, that was my first language. | |
| What do you think just happened, Dave? | |
| I don't know what just happened. | |
| I'm not buying gibberish to me. | |
| me a wish about ha ha I only have a knack I only speak straight Jared Oh come on | |
| yeah I know I know I know his name. | |
| I don't know! | |
| I'd like to just throw it out there to see if people correct me. | |
| So he has three charges against him, Chauvin. | |
| It's second-degree manslaughter, second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder. | |
| Judge Cahill previously dropped the third-degree murder charge, saying that it didn't apply. | |
| Now we have as defined by Minnesota law, to give you context, second-degree manslaughter. | |
| would require, this says, by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable | |
| risk and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another. So these | |
| charges don't seem to apply here. Yeah. And we have some, let me see, what do we have? Remember, | |
| keep in mind too, as far as how biased this is, earlier in the trial they did, and let me be | |
| clear, I think we all have sort of opinions. Yeah. That's why we showed the 20 minute arrest, | |
| where you see the full footage. | |
| What I do not think this is an example of is of an officer going out and lynching a black guy. | |
| I think this is an officer, several officers, who were incredibly patient, a man who was incredibly non-compliant, who was very high, who was distraught, who had COVID, and after 20 minutes of refusing to comply, I think then you had an officer who was frustrated, used the proper police protocol to put his knee on his neck, which I think is horrible protocol, and then didn't follow, rolling him over to his side because he didn't want to take chances because he couldn't control him. | |
| That being said, Obviously George Floyd, not a saint, this is a man who, picture this, it matters because the officer knew this, the officer knew George Floyd, and we were told the officer, Chauvin, knew George Floyd, they worked at the same nightclub, therefore it must be racism. | |
| Or maybe he knew that George Floyd jammed a pistol into a lady's stomach in front of her toddler during an armed violent home invasion, okay? | |
| And so you don't take those chances with someone who is that big, has a history of that much violence, and is high out of his mind. | |
| That being said, I don't think Chauvin is a saint either. | |
| I think there were mistakes all around. | |
| It's a tragedy, but certainly not an example of a modern day lynching and certainly not indicative of the non-existent statistics of unarmed black men being shot. | |
| That was the last epidemic before the pandemic. | |
| We have an epidemic of unarmed black men being shot. | |
| Well, that's not true. | |
| More unarmed white men are shot and far more police officers are shot by black men. | |
| Yeah, and we wouldn't really be bringing up a lot of their history unless people were saying, you know, this cop is horrible and a racist, and we're like, okay, well, let's look at the facts and see if that's true. | |
| Well, it doesn't look like that's true, and it doesn't look like this was motivated by that. | |
| Okay, now George Floyd is a saint. | |
| Well, it doesn't look like that's true, and it also looks like the police officers knew that wasn't true when they stopped him. | |
| Like, all of these things matter because they've been put out there, right? | |
| The murals of George Floyd, like he's the second coming. | |
| Well, actually, not too long ago, they actually compared him at the jury selection to Jesus Christ. | |
| Here you go. | |
| Your Honor, we would agree that specifically as worded, the court could grant this with respect to the, shall we say, parties identified specifically in that motion. | |
| I have to ask, how did this even become a motion? | |
| How did this become a possible answer at trial? | |
| I think, Your Honor, one of our witnesses Well, that seems pretty self-explanatory. | |
| Hey, really quickly, we're having a problem here with our trial. | |
| We're going to pause the show for two or three minutes and be right back so we don't miss the trial. | |
| We have some more clips for you and Fentanyl Games right back. | |
| under rule 403. | |
| Yep. | |
| Well, that seems pretty self-explanatory. | |
| It does. | |
| Hey, really quickly, we're having a problem here with our trial. | |
| We're going to pause the show for two or three minutes and be right back so we don't miss | |
| the trial. | |
| Okay. | |
| We have some more clips for you and Fentanyl Games right back. | |
| Don't go anywhere. | |
| We're going to be right back. | |
| One dog, one dog, all he has, is you. | |
| One dog, one dog, all the time. | |
| Two dog, three dog, all he has, is you. | |
| All he has. | |
| You You | |
| You you | |
| you Protests continue across the country this evening, and we want you to know, of course, that though there are some individual protesters who are agitated, it is not the norm. | |
| These protests are largely peaceful. | |
| Many people look back at the demonstrations at Selma and wonder, what would I have done? | |
| Would I have marched across that bridge? | |
| Or would I be standing on the other side? | |
| Well, I have an answer for you. | |
| And my answer is a question. | |
| What are you doing now? | |
| Now, Tanya, how would you describe the attitude on the ground there? | |
| We go now live to our woman in the field, Tanya Franks. | |
| Tanya? | |
| Well, Chris, first I want to say that was inspiring. | |
| Not many today have the courage to say what you just did. | |
| Your wife is a lucky woman. | |
| Well, that's very kind of you to say, Tanya. | |
| And might I say you look positively dishy this evening. | |
| Well, as far as the attitude on the ground, you know, folks were entirely peaceful, but far from happy. | |
| Just imagine if every day when you left home, you didn't know whether you'd be coming back. | |
| Black power! | |
| You might be a little upset, too. | |
| Well, Tonya, in my line of work, that's always a possibility, but I know that many in the audience might not understand what that's like. | |
| No. | |
| Tonya, hold... Was that a man on... Was that a man on fire? | |
| Hard to tell with the flames, Chris. | |
| Might have been a really muscular lady. | |
| So, Tanya, what are the people on the ground saying there? | |
| A fitting tribute to the memory of George Floyd, Chris. | |
| Charged evening, to be certain. | |
| Take what you need, my f*****s! | |
| A fitting tribute to the memory of George Floyd, Chris. | |
| Yo, who dat? | |
| Yo, that's a motherf***** with a grill. | |
| Charged evening, to be certain. | |
| Now, some people are asking, why is this happening now? | |
| Haven't things gotten better? | |
| Things gotten better? | |
| But there are still persistent and pervasive inequities in this country, and these protests are a reaction to that. | |
| And aside from a string of isolated incidents, very small, things have been pretty peaceful. | |
| Very tame. | |
| Any final thoughts, Tanya? | |
| Oh, uh, hello, sir. | |
| Uh, what's your name? | |
| I'm sorry, that was unfair. | |
| Allow me to reframe the question. | |
| Good, sir. | |
| Where, might I ask, is time? | |
| Oh, she dead? | |
| Yo! | |
| Yo, I got an Apple Watch, dog! | |
| Yeah! | |
| The language of the unheard. | |
| We'll be right back. | |
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| Shit! | |
| There we go! | |
| That's the sound of getting it right this time. | |
| There's no sip. | |
| No. | |
| No. | |
| You do it once. | |
| The sip only happens once. | |
| Then it's gone. | |
| Sorry for the technical difficulties. | |
| We're all set. | |
| We have Gerald, Dave Landau. | |
| Landau, Dave. | |
| Porter Black, Garrett. | |
| So we are now, we're waiting on Court TV. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Because they're the least likely to copyright strike us. | |
| Thank you for being back with us. | |
| The promo, well not the promo code, the hashtag is Crowder Chauvin Stream. | |
| Chauvin. | |
| If I say Chauvin, shut up. | |
| Everybody watching, just shut up. | |
| I've had this so many times. | |
| I think you were with me when I was ordering one time. | |
| Le Fin du Monde. | |
| And I know Fin du Monde is the right way. | |
| It's a beer. | |
| And I'm trying to say it the right, wrong way. | |
| I go, Fin du Monde? | |
| She goes, I don't know. | |
| What is that? | |
| The Fin de Monde? | |
| I'm like, sure. | |
| We don't have it. | |
| And I go, OK, then I'll take that. | |
| The word is modit. | |
| I'm like, the modit? | |
| The modite? | |
| I'm like, you're getting no tip. | |
| Let's hear right now. | |
| Judge, here's motions before opening statements. | |
| Let's go to this. | |
| And then I have some clips and some pretext for you. | |
| Analysis of that situation. | |
| Is that the public? | |
| Is that the public defendant from My Cousin Vinny? | |
| any. Sorry. Yes. Miss you. Trying. Wanted to resist arrest that he was trying to. Fight | |
| Is this from us, or is their audio that bad? | |
| I think their audio is that bad, yeah. | |
| I'm just glad nobody's gonna get COVID in that room. | |
| Yes, true. | |
| Came with his turtle shell mask. | |
| What, does it have bolts on the side? | |
| I'm just glad nobody's gonna get COVID in that room. | |
| Yes, true. | |
| Came with his turtle shell. | |
| What does it have, bolts on the side? | |
| It looks like it's drilled into his face. | |
| It looks like it's drilled into his face. | |
| It's very much a Bane type of thing. | |
| You do not need to kneel on his neck! | |
| I spent time in prison. | |
| Then I wear this mask after a bunch of men grabbed me. | |
| to kneel on his neck. I spent time in prison. Then I wear this mask after a bunch of men | |
| grabbed me. Think about it. | |
| Vis-a-vis that... Alright, so... Are they all on fentanyl? | |
| Yeah, I don't know if they're all on fentanyl right now. | |
| We already had the clip of them referring to George Floyd as Jesus Christ, which will not be admissible, thank God. | |
| No. | |
| So this has resulted in Bill HR 1280, which is of course the George Floyd policing bill. | |
| Hey, it's always nice when you commit multiple violent felonies and jam a pistol into a lady's gut with her toddler watching, and you get a policing bill named after you. | |
| That's exciting. | |
| And murals. | |
| Yeah, and murals. | |
| It's like Che Guevara. | |
| He gets murals. | |
| Well, I really do think the end there was not good. | |
| I'm going to go ahead and say it. | |
| I think I think it was bad. | |
| I think it was bad, too. | |
| Listen, I think this thing is a tragedy all around. | |
| Less than ideal. | |
| The problem is they're using this to try and create a new bill based on the idea that this was simply a racist cop going out and attacking a black man. | |
| And that's not true. | |
| So the bill withholds funds from departments that do not ban chokeholds. | |
| There was no chokehold applied, just to be clear. | |
| Labels chokeholds civil rights violations. | |
| So I guess you'd rather be beaten by a nightstick. | |
| Bans racial profiling. | |
| Okay, I don't know what that means. | |
| How do you ban racial profiling if someone commits a robbery and they're white, blonde hair, right, they look like you? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Can you imagine? | |
| If they look like me? | |
| If they look like George Floyd? | |
| Well, they just describe you. | |
| Right. | |
| Well, no, no, no, you can't. | |
| That's what we're saying. | |
| Like, now it's like, all right, well, what did he look like? | |
| Well, he was, um... | |
| Yeah. He was ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-baran-ba-ba. | |
| Are you singing Beach Boys? I am, because I'm uncomfortable, and there's an autonomous zone behind me. | |
| The news has been doing that forever, though, where they just try to dance around here looking for it. Like, he's 6'5", | |
| probably likes grape drink, dark hair. | |
| Unless he's white. | |
| The shooter, who was white, and like, actually, he was Arab. | |
| The shooter, who was of unidentified race, well, okay, let's just review. | |
| Well, he's white until he's not. | |
| There was a lot of times in this country where that was the opposite. | |
| Ends qualified immunity, which means that they can be civilly liable police officers. | |
| A lot of people don't understand that. | |
| That means that any time a cop, even if it's fully justified, if someone is shooting a police member currently and the man returns fire and the person dies, the family can sue him. | |
| Which will happen every single time. | |
| National police misconduct registry available to the public. | |
| Okay, I understand the idea of having a national registry available to the public. | |
| Seems like a problem, considering that you get banned from Twitter. | |
| It's considered doxxing if you just say, hey, Ilhan Omar's at the office today signing a crappy bill. | |
| I think there's a pretty important registry that's already out there, too. | |
| And just to keep in mind too, they won't be talking about this, the toxicology report. | |
| Fentanyl, methamphetamine, marijuana, and of course he had COVID. | |
| So in any other scenario this would be listed as a COVID death, not saying that's what happened. | |
| Just like I don't think the guy who tried to blow his head off with a shotgun in Michigan was a COVID death, but there we are. | |
| He was listed as one. | |
| So this is a remarkable inconsistency. | |
| And the truth is, this is going to be used to set a narrative, which is important, that, well, we need to fix the problem right now. | |
| This is the bill. | |
| We need to fix the problem of unarmed black men being shot en masse from police officers. | |
| That's not happening. | |
| No, and this isn't even a case of police brutality, necessarily. | |
| This is a case of poor training or poor execution of training, right? | |
| Right. | |
| At a certain point, you have to roll this guy over, and we'll get to all of those things, but people are using this, like you said, to justify a whole slew of changes, like defunding police officers around the country, which doesn't really work out so well as well. | |
| So a 2,000% increase in homicide in Seattle and Portland and certain areas of the country. | |
| You know, if you're getting away now with only a multi-hundred percent increase in violent crime and homicide in major cities, you're actually doing really well. | |
| You're like the Rudy Giuliani. | |
| You are doing really well. | |
| You are tough on crime. | |
| I think you're including Chas numbers. | |
| That's a totally different place. | |
| It's technically a republic. | |
| It's its own country. | |
| Sure they can't sustain themselves with an open Starbucks, but still. | |
| They're great people, okay? | |
| They are very nice. | |
| Look, like other rural countries do, they waited for us to give them bottled water and food. | |
| Right. | |
| Fantastic. | |
| Which, by the way, while we're talking about this, we'll talk about this tomorrow or whenever we're not doing the trial show, this idea that in Georgia they're banning people from giving water Oh, come on. | |
| It's not true. | |
| It's not true at all. | |
| You can't... Anyway, it's not true. | |
| It's bullshit. | |
| If it sounds like bullshit, smells like bullshit, probably bullshit, it's bullshit. | |
| We'll talk about it. | |
| Just don't believe it for a second, despite what Chris Wallace says. | |
| Oh my gosh. | |
| Bro, why can't you give water to people in roading lines? | |
| Bro. | |
| You're an idiot, and I hate you, Chris Wallace. | |
| So let's get to the epidemic really quickly before we move on. | |
| This is the narrative they want to set, and if this guy does not fry, there will be riots in the street. | |
| Our Korean in-chief here actually made a good point. | |
| He said, this is kind of like my OJ, only in reverse. | |
| And it mirrors, when you think about it, OJ after Rodney King, the riots, right? | |
| This is a guy who obviously was allegedly guilty. | |
| Well, guilty in a civil court. | |
| And because of the racial tension, because of the issue, because they didn't want to deal with these ramifications, with these riots, they let the guy go. | |
| In this case, it's post-riots. | |
| We're talking about $2 billion in damages, over 900 officer casualties, tens of people who were killed in the Black Lives—these are the most violent, expensive riots that have ever taken place in American history. | |
| And people don't want more of this to happen, and so they're going to have to convict this guy, whether in any other scenario he would be convicted or not. | |
| Now this is being used to set a narrative, and I just want to set the stage here really, really quickly, that police are shooting unarmed black men in rec. | |
| It is not true. | |
| So 2019 is the last time we have these full numbers. | |
| 9 unarmed black men were shot by police. | |
| 19 unarmed white men. | |
| I know you're saying, yeah, but they make up a higher percentage of the population. | |
| But, actually, 53% of known homicide offenders in the United States are black. | |
| 60% of robberies are black. | |
| So when you consider that violent crime is committed disproportionately, and I hate This has to come out of my mouth. | |
| I hate that I have to say black, white, but the fact is right now they're going to be talking about white, black. | |
| I was listening to NPR this morning. | |
| Derek Chauvin, who is white, put his knee on the neck of unarmed George Floyd, who is black. | |
| That was in there! | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| So you have to respond to it. | |
| Let me touch on the statistics thing you said. | |
| You're absolutely right. | |
| It doesn't matter what the percentage of the population is. | |
| When you use statistics, you have to use them in a way that is precise and actionable. | |
| You don't want the population number, you want the cop interaction number. | |
| How many people of all the different races are the police interacting with and what are the outcomes? | |
| That shows a much different picture. | |
| Well that's also important, the interactions. | |
| Do you know, you probably don't know this, do you know how much more likely a police officer is to be shot or killed by a black male than he is to shoot an unarmed black male? | |
| If you would take a guess, how much more likely is it for a police officer to be killed by a black man than to shoot an unarmed black male? | |
| Eighteen and a half times. | |
| Wow. | |
| A police officer is eighteen and a half times. | |
| I wouldn't know how to even gauge the percentage. | |
| Well, I guess what I'm wondering, though, is what is conviction versus arrest rate? | |
| Because there could be an argument there inside the system once. | |
| Like, yeah, sure, more black people may be convicted, but how many arrests were there compared to the two races? | |
| Well, substantially more. | |
| Right. | |
| Substantially more. | |
| The interactions, it's off the charts. | |
| In fact, the Black Lives Matter group before this had been making the argument for decades that police were just stopping black people randomly. | |
| So it takes the numbers into astronomical figures. | |
| There's no way. | |
| I'm just playing daredevil. | |
| No, I appreciate it. | |
| So I have this number exactly. | |
| 53% of known homicide offenders in this country are black. | |
| 60% of robberies, but they make up only 25% of those shot by police. | |
| Okay. | |
| So half in relation to the crimes committed, and police officers are 18 and a half times more likely to be killed by a black man than shooting an unarmed black man. | |
| And by the way, of these nine unarmed black men who were shot in 2019, One of them, one of the unarmed black men tried to run over the officer with his car. | |
| I mean, think about that for a second. | |
| These things matter. | |
| A car is not armed, but he's trying to run over a police officer. | |
| The point is, if you try and overcorrect and now make sure that police officers cannot do their job and you defund them because of systemic racism, which statistically does not exist in the police force, Then we have a problem. | |
| And that's why the majority of black Americans don't want less of a police presence. | |
| They want at least the same amount as they have now, or more. | |
| Do we need police reform? | |
| Sure. | |
| We need to make sure that unions aren't as strong in the police as they are. | |
| This wall of silence. | |
| We need to make sure that police have their authority constrained to constitutional parameters. | |
| I have a problem with police. | |
| Who do you think they would have to send out to round up people with the executive orders with firearms? | |
| Probably police officers. | |
| When I see police officers arresting ladies at soccer games because they're not wearing their double mask, that's a problem. | |
| That being said, we need to address the real issue and not the race-baiting that is taking place in the mainstream media, and that's what's going on today. | |
| And you can't do that until people start to actually look at what the problem is. | |
| And I think, Dave, that's what we're trying to do is to set it up and say, look, there is a problem. | |
| We need to solve it. | |
| But what is the problem? | |
| It's not what they're saying it is that you're just going to get shot randomly by police officers because you're black. | |
| So what really is going on? | |
| Well, that is, yeah, that is obviously a message that people want to put out, and there's no denying that, but at the same time, how do you solve something that's an individual basis when you're painting it as a broad stroke? | |
| It doesn't really work. | |
| It's all an individual thing. | |
| This particular situation, the guy who kneeled on his neck, I think, personally, was an asshole and was responsible for his death. | |
| He took it too far at the end when he didn't need to. | |
| That's not speaking for the police. | |
| That's not talking about cops across this country who are now being accused of it or them getting defunded because of a singular situation. | |
| That's the problem is we're taking single things done by individuals and putting color stamps on them and that's dangerous. | |
| And I would take it even a step further and say I would give this guy more leeway, Officer Chauvin, than you are for a couple of reasons. | |
| This is what they were trained to do, to put the knee on the neck. | |
| So you're talking about the knee on the neck. | |
| They're trained by the police department to put the knee on the neck. | |
| It's very stupid. | |
| It's also not an asphyxiation. | |
| But we need to acknowledge the fact That they train police officers in this department to do what he did. | |
| They train them to turn someone over afterward, which he did not do. | |
| But that wasn't the media outcry. | |
| The media was, why would you put your knee in his neck? | |
| Because he was taught to. | |
| So your problem here is with the police training department. | |
| And I've been saying this for a long time. | |
| We had Jaco on. | |
| Oh yeah. | |
| Police, before they go out, they should have six months of concentrated combat training, grappling training, Brazilian submission training, so that they don't have to go to their tool belt, whether it's a taser, whether it's a firearm, or if you're a silly beat cop in the Untouchables, or all of the UK, a billy club. | |
| Right? | |
| Spin it around. | |
| I think that they shouldn't have to, so they need better training, but Here is actually, we have a clip of them showing that this was a training for the police officers. | |
| He didn't just do this rogue. | |
| The officers were holding Floyd in what attached MPD training materials call maximal restraint technique. | |
| The training materials include a photograph of an officer with his knee on the suspect's neck. | |
| This comes despite MPD chief Madera Arradondo repeatedly saying after the death of George Floyd, That's the problem with the lie. | |
| That's a lie. | |
| Right. | |
| Now the issue there is it doesn't say how long until you roll someone over to the recovery position. | |
| Right. | |
| a lie. | |
| Either. | |
| The suspect should be turned to his side in what's called a recovery position, which the | |
| body camera transcript shows Lane asked a second time. | |
| This time Chauvin didn't answer. | |
| Right. | |
| Now the issue there is it doesn't say how long until you roll someone over to the recovery | |
| position. | |
| Right. | |
| Either. | |
| Usually, the precedent that's been set here is once someone stops struggling, once someone | |
| is no longer a threat. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Now that being said, as far as, I disagree with you, and that's okay. | |
| I disagree with you on Chauvin being an asshole because I think all the way up until this | |
| point he was incredibly lenient. | |
| That's why we showed it before this stream, the 20 minute arrest. | |
| There have been officers who have been shot in far Less unruly scenarios. | |
| I think we have a shorter montage here of them trying to get him into the car. | |
| Keep in mind, George Floyd says his mom just died. | |
| She died two years ago. | |
| He's not putting his hands up when they ask. | |
| He's asking them to put the air on if they have heated seats and a sunroof. | |
| And they're saying, we're going to stay there with you. | |
| We're going to open the windows. | |
| Saying, I can't breathe. | |
| Calm down. | |
| Saying, I can't breathe. | |
| The second they cuff him, OK, just to be clear, again, we were told that he said, I can't breathe once he was on the ground and the cop ignored him. | |
| No, that's the very first thing he went to to try and avoid being cuffed. | |
| Here's a montage. | |
| We're trying to get out of the street here so you don't get hit by a car. | |
| We got him? | |
| Could you please crack it for me, please? | |
| Yes, I'll crack it. | |
| I will. | |
| I will. | |
| Please stay with me, man. | |
| Thank you. | |
| I'll roll the windows down and stick my legs in, alright? | |
| I'll put the air on. | |
| Step out and face away. | |
| Please don't shoot me. | |
| Please, man. | |
| I'm not going to shoot you. | |
| Step out and face away. | |
| I'm going to get out of here, man. | |
| Please don't shoot me, man. | |
| I'm not shooting you, man. | |
| So here's the thing. | |
| Someone passed a fake bill in there. | |
| We come over here, he starts grabbing for the keys and all that stuff. | |
| Is that a leprechaun in a hood? | |
| He starts getting weird, not showing us his hands, I don't know what's going on, so you're coming out of the car. | |
| So just hang tight right here. | |
| So this is important because right away he's saying, I'm not going, they talk about, why don't they de-escalate? | |
| I'm not going to shoot you, please put your hands above your head. | |
| Hey, I'm going to stay with you, I'll stay with you, all the sources by the way will be available at loudearthcracker.com including the 20 minute tape. | |
| I'm going to stay with you, I'll open the windows, don't shoot me, I'm not going to shoot you. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm not going to shoot you. | |
| Please comply. | |
| And then he has two perfectly reasonable interactions with the other two people involved. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, I think that, yes, at this point, and then it gets increasingly violent. | |
| The guy increasingly resists arrest, and he asks to be put on the ground. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And then he didn't roll him over. | |
| That's the issue there, which, again, now we're at the point with There isn't malicious intent on the outset. | |
| This wasn't just random racial profiling. | |
| He was non-compliant. | |
| And then, with a rulebook that they're used in their training to kneel on the neck and turn them over, he didn't do the last part. | |
| Okay, what kind of a charge should that be? | |
| Isn't the last thing called the Resurrect, though? | |
| I mean, isn't that the... Recovery. | |
| Recovery, sorry. | |
| Resurrect. | |
| Jesus Christ. | |
| It's almost Easter, boys. | |
| that's that's that's just right he's a sister yes it is almost easter boy but it | |
| is true that's the recovery position It feels like that's the most important of all the positions to put somebody in to keep them alive. | |
| Well, I don't think, so it's not called the recovery position to keep people alive. | |
| It's called the recovery position because now you've subdued the perpetrator or whatever it is. | |
| You've got them on their side. | |
| Now you can get them up and into the car, right? | |
| You're getting them into, it's not saying, oh, you're about to kill them, but you roll them over so that you don't kill them. | |
| I think, I think what you're trying to say is the cashier should have just taken the 20. | |
| No, I just think all of the context to this matters and I think so many people form their opinions, not you Dave, but a number of people form their opinions just on the last five minutes of the video that we saw. | |
| Kneeling on the neck and not understanding, like never having dealt with somebody who's been on drugs. | |
| I've heard story after story after story of somebody on PCP, Lane even asks, he's like, hey do you guys think he's on PCP or something? | |
| Those guys have strength that you have no idea where it comes from. | |
| Oh yeah. | |
| Tons of bottled blood. | |
| Well I think we have a hunch Well, it's a PCP. | |
| Well, basically, it makes you get naked, and it gives you the strength of ten men. | |
| I had a friend who was a police officer, one of my jujitsu coaches, and there was a guy in PCP, and what he did was he stripped down naked, he crapped in his hand, covered himself in it, said, who wants to catch me? | |
| And he was a new police officer, so they said, alright, you're up. | |
| That's you, buddy. | |
| Which actually is pretty clever. | |
| Well, they sprayed him with poopery first. | |
| Who wants to get me? | |
| Is anyone going to get me? | |
| All of this, the context matters. | |
| The context matters, but my question, so now that we've watched all of this, right, and we understand the context, we understand that there was training, we understand that this officer knew this man, we understand that this officer knew this man had a violent history, we understand that he was very accommodating for 20 minutes, did it warrant the most violent, unruly, mostly peaceful riots that we've ever seen in our lives? | |
| Keep in mind, all of these riots over the course of the summer, and by the way, remember, the COVID ticker disappeared for two months, for a little bit, it was all predicated On George Floyd and Derek Chauvin, here's a little reminder | |
| in case you've forgotten. | |
| Watch out! Watch out! I've got a plane! I've got a plane! | |
| Grab the plane! Grab the plane! | |
| Oh, they're in a boat now! | |
| Peaceful little, uh... | |
| It's mostly peaceful. | |
| Peaceful little car lot fire. | |
| Oh, nice. | |
| That's a cool thing to yell. | |
| Well, at least that's not a government building. | |
| Update on the trial right now. | |
| The judge, I guess, he had walked away and he said that they would get things started up again at 10.30 Eastern. | |
| 10.30 Eastern? | |
| So that means in five minutes? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| So that's not bad. | |
| Good. | |
| Thank you. | |
| So I have a little bit of time. | |
| 112 Minneapolis officers filed disability claims due to PTSD. | |
| Just in Minneapolis. | |
| It doesn't matter because it wasn't at the Capitol. | |
| Uh, Minneapolis then had to spend, remember they wanted to defund the police? | |
| Right. | |
| Then they had to spend 6.4 million dollars to recruit new police officers. | |
| Ow! | |
| I don't know why anyone would become a cop today. | |
| No! | |
| No. | |
| Oh, I can't imagine why. | |
| I can't imagine. | |
| No. | |
| Who signs up for it in Minneapolis? | |
| Like, you would have to pay them, like, you know, 500 grand a year and be like, alright, here you go, here's your new benefits. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Minneapolis. | |
| Kenosha. | |
| Yeah. | |
| How are you going to have any police officers? | |
| No. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| Especially if you get rid of qualified immunity because now you can be sued for anything. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You want to know what it's like? | |
| It's like being a doctor and operating on somebody and they die and there's nothing you did wrong but you're getting sued anyway. | |
| It's just, we're at the point where everything is so politicized. | |
| Keep in mind that this was from the Obama administration, this is overlay J if you're looking for it. | |
| This is a 2011 report that black males aged 14 to 24 commit homicide at 37 times the rate of the normal population. | |
| And here's the thing, is it because of melanin? | |
| No, despite what Elmo says. | |
| Well, Elmo's pretty sure. | |
| Is melanin why you burnt down the Walgreens? | |
| No. | |
| That's racist Elmo. | |
| On on. | |
| Na na na Elmo's world. | |
| They look like Frank Yankers puppets. | |
| like Frank Yankers puppets. | |
| Yes, they do. | |
| Which is more fun. | |
| It's not because they're black. | |
| Why? | |
| It's because... I've got to tell you this, too. | |
| This ties into the whole voting law thing in Georgia. | |
| I can't think of anything more racist. | |
| I really can't. | |
| I was just sort of sitting there with my wife. | |
| Hold on a second. | |
| They're saying this is voter suppression, voter suppression, voter suppression with voting. | |
| This is how the left views black Americans. | |
| And it really is sad. | |
| They're saying, hey, black Americans can't afford to get ID. | |
| Okay, well, you know what? | |
| It's free. | |
| Uh, well, they can't get to the DMV. | |
| Uh, well, uh, okay, they can sign up for it online. | |
| Black people don't know how to use the internet. | |
| How racist is that shit, when you think about it? | |
| Well, that was Biden that said that. | |
| That was Biden that said that. | |
| So that's the issue here. | |
| It's the low expectations. | |
| Okay, the judge here is talking with his turtle shell mask. | |
| Get his hand up! | |
| I used to... | |
| ...and follow the instructions. | |
| Oh, he's wearing them in, okay. | |
| He's wearing them in. | |
| Okay, yeah. | |
| So let me know when it's something that we need to do. | |
| He's doing the vanilla ice wrap from Secret of the Ooze. | |
| Yes! | |
| Go Chauvin! | |
| Go Chauvin! | |
| Go! | |
| You're free! | |
| And then Suge Knight dangles him from a balcony. | |
| They should have Suge Knight in there just for no reason. | |
| Yeah, just cause. | |
| But black people can't get voter ID, they don't know how to use the internet, and in this case it's, well they commit 37 times the crime because they're black. | |
| They commit that because police officers are more likely to shoot them. | |
| We know none of that is true, and they think that some of this will be fixed with $200 more per pupil spending in education. | |
| Look, Black Lives Matter has decided to destroy, they've said that the nuclear family is a symbol of white patriarchy. | |
| Well, you know what? | |
| At one point, it was actually a symbol of black culture in this country, because black families had a lower divorce rate. | |
| They had more children and fewer divorces. | |
| And guess what? | |
| They were doing better, as far as family at that point. | |
| Literacy rates were increasing at a faster rate than after the Lyndon Johnson rules. | |
| For them to now say that's a symbol of white privilege is very clear that there has been a goal to systematically pull up the thread that allows for self-governance in this country, and that is the family unit. | |
| And considering that a huge percentage, a majority of young black men grow up without a dad, that's the single greatest indicator that you have. | |
| But no one can say it, and this is the problem. | |
| When all of this is based on a lie, guess what? | |
| You will hurt the black community more When your biggest spokespeople, your biggest mouthpiece, Black Lives Matter, says, we want fewer dads in the house. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | |
| Well, it's hard to have dads when Kamala keeps arresting them. | |
| Well, that's true. | |
| Or banging them. | |
| Yeah, that's true. | |
| One of the two. | |
| We always hear education is a silver bullet, man. | |
| And we'll say, well, there's some truth to that. | |
| But the silver bullet is actually having two parents in the household. | |
| Yes. | |
| Right? | |
| A mother and a father. | |
| Now, if somebody dies, that's a different situation. | |
| Of course. | |
| It still ends up being tough because you still have one parent. | |
| But, two people in the household. | |
| A mom and a dad. | |
| That's the silver bullet. | |
| Where's that kid the majority of the time of the day? | |
| Right. | |
| They're with their family? | |
| Well, it doesn't matter. | |
| Exactly, right? | |
| So, the problem that teachers say you have with education is that it's not about what they learn during the day, it's what their parents reinforce at night. | |
| They just come back the next day and have to learn the same stuff over again. | |
| And so, that does play out, right? | |
| We're not trying to solve the actual problems. | |
| We're trying to say we can fix it with a band-aid and never address the real issue. | |
| And if you say it, like you just said, you're racist for pointing that out. | |
| No, you're not racist in any way, I think, for stating facts, but there is a part of it where, but there is an issue with black people in the police, it dates back very, very far, and there is with whites in the police. | |
| Like I've said, I've actually been beaten by cops. | |
| You shouldn't spit on him and insult his wife. | |
| Well, in fairness, you're right. | |
| I'm not saying that I didn't deserve it. | |
| When I was thrown down the stairs, though... Yeah, you didn't deserve that. | |
| No, that was too far. | |
| That was one cop who was a dick. | |
| Yeah, but you're right though, there has been a problem. | |
| I forgot that your Growing Up story is a Walking Lifetime movie. | |
| Yes, it is. | |
| Just him being pushed down a flight of stairs. | |
| Yes, and at the end I beat up Meredith Baxter-Bernie. | |
| Yeah, he thought I was a lady. | |
| I'm like, I'm pregnant. | |
| You're 100% right, Dave. | |
| There's been a problem in the policing in some urban areas that are statistically highly black areas that white cops have done horrific things. | |
| That is absolutely true, right? | |
| You have to deal with that. | |
| But the only way to deal with that is to deal with reality. | |
| Right now we have thrown kind of this fake outrage and this straw man that we've built that everybody's attacking that won't solve the problem. | |
| And we have a higher percentage of minorities and black people in the police force than the general population. | |
| Of course, yeah. | |
| But they're all Uncle Tom. | |
| The tide is turning for sure. | |
| No, this has been happening for a very long time, for decades. | |
| No, I agree. | |
| It was turning for a long time, so I think we're pretty much there. | |
| But there is this passed-down fear that people have. | |
| When you see George Floyd right there, he's afraid of that guy. | |
| He may not be afraid of the other three, but he has a legitimate fear of that guy. | |
| Well, he wasn't afraid for the first 20 minutes. | |
| I think he was. | |
| I think anybody being stopped by police is going to be afraid. | |
| Okay, but that's the point. | |
| Listen, you're driving, you're high, you're not complying with the police officer saying, I'm not gonna shoot you. | |
| No, look, I'll put you in the car, I'll leave the air on, the guy's high as a kite. | |
| Maybe you should, I think you should be concerned if he's breaking the law and he has a rap sheet a mile long. | |
| You should be, yeah. | |
| Oh no, and I'm not saying you're wrong about that. | |
| If you're concerned, here's what you do. | |
| You turn the car off, you take the keys out of the ignition, you put your hands on the steering wheel, and you ask the officer, Officer, what can I do? | |
| Just, you comply. | |
| Those are the things. | |
| Now, I get if you're scared. | |
| I do that when I'm asking a police officer for directions. | |
| I walk up, I go, hey, excuse me, officer. | |
| Ha! | |
| Hands! | |
| Here! | |
| Hey! | |
| Do you know how to get to the nearest Dunkin' Donuts? | |
| Because I want to get those commies at Starbucks the time of day. | |
| I say I'm reaching for my phone. | |
| I'm reaching for my phone. | |
| I'm reaching because my insurance is on there now. | |
| The thing about my phone is it's shaped like a gun. | |
| Blam! | |
| And then they let me go. | |
| And you say blam? | |
| Yeah, then they realize it's just you joking and they're like, ah, crowded. | |
| Well, they mainly realize it's me, white. | |
| It's that white privilege card. | |
| Yeah, once I rolled on the tin of windows, they're like, you can go. | |
| Oh, we thought you were somebody else. | |
| They give me six cookies on the way. | |
| That's the part, is there's always been an issue with some police officers in power. | |
| Yeah, of course. | |
| That is just a fact, and I think that's something that does have to be acknowledged in this situation. | |
| And he looks like a guy, and because of his rap sheet as well, that would abuse his power. | |
| In my opinion. | |
| I didn't see that in this tape. | |
| I see it at the very end where he didn't roll him over. | |
| Yeah, and I wonder how much the audience played into that, right? | |
| He's heckler from the street side. | |
| At that point you have to take into consideration, if you put a guy in recovery position, that also means that he can get out. | |
| He can move, and he's surrounded by people now who are yelling and recording, and that can become a very dangerous situation. | |
| Well, his attention's now distracted. | |
| He's not just thinking about the person that he's holding down, he's thinking about a group of people that are starting to get a little bit more tense. | |
| Now, they had understandable reason to say, hey, he's not moving, get off of him. | |
| I think both, I think to Dave's point, both were afraid of each other. | |
| How big is George? | |
| Is he 6'7"? | |
| Big dude. | |
| 6'6", huge, known violent offender. | |
| I mean, look. | |
| I don't want to say sociopathic, but someone who robs a woman, encases the joint with his buddies, jams a pistol into her stomach when her toddler is in the room, and continues living a life of crime. | |
| That's the kind of person who you have to take seriously, and you know the officers knew that when they pulled up on him. | |
| And then I think he's probably afraid of Chauvin because they knew each other, and he knew that he was a police officer, and in some cases... You know, I've read about it, I haven't seen extensive proof that Chauvin has been this monster that they make him out to be as far as abusing his power, and I just don't see it in this tape. | |
| I really don't. | |
| I see it as an unfortunate situation that happened, and again, it certainly isn't justification for the statistics, but for a lie regarding the statistics of crime between Officers and black americans and we're not having an honest | |
| dialogue, but I do think something that has helped us a silver lining | |
| Some progress and we make baby steps along the way is of course in minneapolis the wonderful george floyd | |
| Autonomous zone where multiple bodies have been found people have been killed because police are not allowed in | |
| so baby steps oh | |
| See they have to walk around the autonomous zone and there was a young black person who was | |
| Shot in there and then died because they couldn't help you get body out | |
| I don't think you should just get to have an autonomous zone. | |
| I'm gonna throw it out there. | |
| It makes no sense that you can just take over the blocks of a city. | |
| I remember when I first heard about it, someone had to explain. | |
| I'm like, what do you mean? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Autonomous zone? | |
| They just took it over and they're not letting anyone in. | |
| I'm like, you can do that? | |
| Depending on that. | |
| Yeah, downtown Seattle's just Peter-topia from Family Guy. | |
| You're like, what happened? | |
| You're not allowed to just have this. | |
| Yeah, we are. | |
| And the cop's like, oh, I'm sorry. | |
| They're like, listen, there's a rapper here with a $40,000 grant from the government. | |
| He's our king. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What, did it take a couple of weeks for that thing to fall apart? | |
| Well, yeah. | |
| Not before our interns were chased off with guns. | |
| Rightfully so. | |
| And quarter black Garrett and even Brendan. | |
| It's like when a guy's car's stolen and he's like, somebody call the police. | |
| It's like, you really don't get this, do you? | |
| Autonomous zone. | |
| I think there's something with the sequence of events and disconnect here, Raz. | |
| This is the extremes, though. | |
| That's the problem, is we're looking at the extremes and the extremes are controlling the narrative. | |
| I don't think we're looking at extremes. | |
| I think we're looking at one side, which is extreme, that's controlling the narrative right now. | |
| I mean, the police are being defunded. | |
| The left is not saying, hey, we need to, I guess, weaken the police union so that bad police officers can be hired, because they can't do that. | |
| They're saying, hey, defund the police, and that actually means defund the police, or remove qualified immunity, no chokeholds, which I vehemently disagree with. | |
| I guess just hit someone mercilessly with a baton or use a taser that doesn't work on someone with PCP. | |
| If someone is committing a serious violent crime, let's say you are down on your luck, you're hungry, you're stealing, you commit armed robbery, and you know that you deserve to go to prison, you would pray that you get choked unconscious and wake up in the paddy wagon. | |
| That's the most gentle way to go as someone who's been choked out many times. | |
| I still wear a leather helmet when I'm not doing the show. | |
| I wear a full mask. | |
| We all do, which by the way, I think actually, so the George Floyd, we went down to Chaz, you guys know that in Seattle. | |
| We sent our team, we broadcast live from there for a while. | |
| We weren't able to do a whole show from there, but we have, do we have him? | |
| So, actually, live on location, our on-the-ground correspondent at the Minneapolis Autonomous | |
| Zone is Thomas Finnegan. | |
| Okay, Mr. Finnegan, I know things are heating up there with the trial underway. | |
| Can you hear me? | |
| Tell us what's going on on the ground. | |
| Good morning, Stephen. | |
| I'm in Minneapolis at George Floyd Square, the new autonomous zone. | |
| We know that, yeah. | |
| Yeah, what's going on? | |
| Let's see. | |
| There's some gentlemen over there. | |
| I'll go ask them some questions. | |
| Well, I don't think that's not, that's not, we don't have the insurance, Ryder. | |
| Tom, Tom, Thomas, no, uh... What's this white motherfucker doing? | |
| No cameras! | |
| Yeah, I don't... | |
| Well, we'll check back in with him later. | |
| Brave Mr. Finnegan. | |
| He's a tough reporter. | |
| Seems we should see this coming. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They're going on now? | |
| They're doing the opening statement? | |
| He's still addressing the jurors, it looks like. | |
| Alright, let's see Mr. Turtle Shell Mask addressing the jurors. | |
| Again, the hashtag is Crowder Chauvin Stream because I'm not on the Twitter. | |
| And you can just send all your tweets to at Dave Landau. | |
| I know, he's like... Landau Dave. | |
| Yes, please. | |
| We can't hear what he's saying right now, but I imagine he's saying, your lives are over if you don't convict this fellow. | |
| Yes. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Is Nancy Pelosi in the back there? | |
| Opening statement. | |
| How is that going? | |
| Like, do people understand what airborne particles are? | |
| No. | |
| Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, good morning. | |
| My name is Jerry Blackwell and I apologize for talking you through this question. | |
| Hilarious. | |
| It's probably the least of the gifts that the pandemic has given us. | |
| You're going to learn in this case a lot about what it means to be a public servant and to have the honor of wearing this badge. | |
| It's a small badge that carries with it a large responsibility and a large accountability to the public. | |
| What does it stand for? | |
| It represents the very motto of the Minneapolis Police Department. | |
| Motto? | |
| To protect with courage, to serve with compassion, but it also represents the essence of the Minneapolis Police Department approach to the use of force against its citizens when appropriate. | |
| A sanctity of life and the protection of the public shall be the cornerstones of the Minneapolis Police Department's use of force. | |
| Compassion, sanctity of life, cornerstones, and that little badge is worn right over the officer's heart. | |
| He's already a better lawyer, I'm sorry. | |
| But you're also going to learn that the officers take an oath when they become police officers. | |
| They take an oath that I will enforce the law, courteously and appropriately, and as you will learn, as applies to this case, never employing a necessary force or violence. | |
| And not only that, I recognize the badge at my office as a symbol of public faith, and I accept it as a public trust to be held so long as I am true to the ethics of police service. | |
| Symbol of public faith, ethics to police service, sanctity of life, all of this matters tremendously to this case. | |
| Because you will learn that on May 25th of 2020, Mr. Derek Chauvin betrayed this badge when he used excessive and unreasonable force upon the body of Mr. George Floyd. | |
| That he put his knees upon his neck and his back which is in the training manual. | |
| ... grinding and crushing him until the very breath, no ladies and gentlemen, until the very life | |
| were squeezed out of him. | |
| No, no, that's not true. | |
| There wasn't squeezed out of him. | |
| Look, we have the coroner's report. | |
| It wasn't asphyxiation. | |
| That's not what happened. | |
| He died because there was an overdose of drugs in his system. | |
| He had COVID. | |
| He had difficulty breathing. | |
| There is no evidence, none whatsoever, that it came from the knee on the neck. | |
| Now, that's not pleasant. | |
| I'm sure it doesn't help, but that would not cause asphyxiation. | |
| That wouldn't choke somebody, and it wouldn't cause diaphragmic asphyxiation. | |
| This is also something that I know pretty well. | |
| There was a guy who used to be called Kavaka in Jiu Jitsu, where he would do a move that would compress your diaphragm and you couldn't breathe. | |
| That is something that can be done. | |
| That would be done from a knee on the belly or in the solar plexus. | |
| The coroner's report shows that that is not what happened. | |
| So we need to be clear about that. | |
| Did he die from the knee on the neck? | |
| No. | |
| But do you think it could be argued, because he was on drugs, that he could have been riled up by that situation? | |
| He could have been, but considering that this is a technique that's been used by the department for years, and it hasn't happened with anyone else, we would have to say, okay, what's the outlier here? | |
| It's the copious amounts of drugs that we know cause fatal overdoses. | |
| Right, and... Go ahead, yeah, I think we need to go back. | |
| Yeah, yeah, sorry, but hold that thought. | |
| We are bringing this case, this prosecution against Mr. Chauvin, For the excessive force that he applied on the body of Mr. George Floyd for engaging in behavior that was imminently dangerous in the force that he applied without regard for its impact on the life of Mr. George Floyd. | |
| So let's begin by focusing, then, on what we learned about these nine minutes. | |
| Disagree with that. | |
| Without regard. | |
| Tried to get him in the car. | |
| Told him he wouldn't shoot him. | |
| Offered to get him in the car with cooled seats, air conditioning windows open, and a sunroof, and George Floyd requested that he be put on the ground, at which point he used a police protocol to ensure that the man could not leave. | |
| Now, I don't think it's a good protocol. | |
| Right. | |
| But the idea with total disregard, would you say, hey, get in the car, I'll turn on me? | |
| That's not total disregard. | |
| No. | |
| Hey man, come on, please, get in the car. | |
| That's not total disregard. | |
| You can watch the full tape. | |
| If George Floyd had died at home, which is very possible, it would have been ruled an overdose because of the obscene amounts of fentanyl methamphetamine in his system combined with a heart condition and COVID. | |
| I don't believe it was total disregard for the first 19 minutes. | |
| I just think it's weird that Mr. Chauvin is there with a notepad drawing penises. | |
| It's just a weird time, right? | |
| Poor taste. | |
| Any other time. | |
| When you got a drum, when you got a drum. | |
| He says, I'll probably die this way. | |
| I'm through, I'm through. | |
| They're gonna kill me. | |
| They're gonna kill me, man. | |
| Now hold on a second. | |
| Does he say I can't breathe 27 times on the ground? | |
| Or are they including the I can't breathe? | |
| Keep in mind we have the tape where George Floyd is in the car getting out and they put cuffs on him before they carry him to the cop car. | |
| I can't breathe man! | |
| I can't breathe! | |
| Are they including that with the 27 times? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Or trying to get him into the back seat. | |
| I can't breathe needs to be tossed out as entirely irrelevant because he said it immediately. | |
| And by the way, it's very common for people to do that with police officers because they believe it's a get-out-of-arrest-free card. | |
| Yeah, it is. | |
| Chauvin was saying, sorry, Floyd was saying it. | |
| Does 27 times include that? | |
| Can we find that? | |
| Can we fact check that? | |
| Because we counted dozens of times. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You will hear his words further apart You will see that his respiration gets shallower and shallower and finally stops when he speaks his last words, I can't breathe. | |
| And once we have his final words you'll see that for roughly 53 seconds he is completely silent and virtually motionless with just sporadic movements. | |
| You're going to learn those sporadic movements matter greatly in this case because what they reflect Mr. Floyd was no longer breathing when he's making these movements. | |
| You will learn about something in this case called an anoxic seizure. | |
| It is the body's automatic reflex. | |
| When breathing has stopped due to oxygen deprivation, we'll be able to point out to you when you'll see the involuntary movements from Mr. Floyd that are part of an anoxic seizure. | |
| Not only that, you're going to learn about something that's called agonal breathing. | |
| When the heart has stopped, when blood is no longer coursing through the veins, you will hear the body gasp as an involuntary reflex. | |
| We'll point out to you... See, all this, by the way, is designed to try and connect the dots that he was asphyxiated by the cop. | |
| No, he wasn't. | |
| The report shows that he wasn't. | |
| Blood stopped coursing through his veins because of shoving. | |
| That's not what happened. | |
| You can say he panicked, sure. | |
| You can say Chauvin had his knee on him for too long, sure. | |
| But the idea that he died because of Chauvin, no. | |
| And you know what? | |
| We can do that. | |
| I'll have you put your knee on my neck here in this studio right afterwards. | |
| Again? | |
| Is it uncomfortable? | |
| It is uncomfortable, but the reason they teach it to police officers is because it wouldn't asphyxiate someone. | |
| This is a guy who was on fentanyl, who was on meth, this is a guy who was very heavy, had a pre-existing heart condition, and had COVID. | |
| Anywhere else in the media right now, Fauci would be touting it as a COVID death. | |
| Let's be clear about that. | |
| They're trying to connect the dots so you think that All of these, right now, all of these issues, all of these, the issues of twitching, the issue of blood flow stopping, that that is directly attributable to the knee on the neck. | |
| Just like they want you to think that 27 times I can't breathe is directly attributable to Chauvin's action. | |
| It's not! | |
| It's not because he was saying it when he was in his car, when he was out of both cars, and when they were trying to get him in the cop car. | |
| So, we need to be clear here, don't connect dots where they don't connect. | |
| I do think, and again, this is my opinion, but Chauvin is guilty there, but at the same time, how comfortable are we supposed to make criminals? | |
| This is what I don't understand. | |
| You're committing a crime, the result is a punishment. | |
| Getting arrested is a punishment. | |
| Right. | |
| I mean, I guess it's not the punishment yet. | |
| It's not the punishment, the whole point is to get, the point is not punishment, it's to remove you as a threat from society. | |
| Right. | |
| And at that point, he refused to get in the car, they couldn't remove him. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But how comfortable are you supposed to make somebody during that? | |
| It just doesn't make any sense to me. | |
| If you're doing everything that you can, how much farther do you have to take it? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Well, if you look at the new laws they're proposing, you can't subdue them at all. | |
| You have to let them go. | |
| Move the lifeless body of George Floyd onto the gurney. | |
| Only if they have COVID you have to let them go. | |
| Just like Georgia, they want you to be able to fight two officers, tase them in the face, and still go. | |
| And you're right, anything could happen. It would have been called a COVID death. | |
| Move the lifeless body of George Floyd onto the gurney. | |
| Only then does Mr. Chauvin let up and get up. | |
| And you'll see him drag Mr. Floyd's body and unceremoniously cast it onto the gurney. | |
| Oh, come on. | |
| How is he going to pick up a guy 260-270 pounds? | |
| There wasn't a nearby florist. | |
| Like roadkill with a stick. | |
| Yeah, there wasn't a nearby florist. | |
| He's pointing the carcass of his enemy onto this. | |
| That's not what happened. | |
| Like roadkill with a stick. | |
| Like me with the snapping turtle where I told you that story where I... | |
| There was a snapping turtle in the road. | |
| I'll tell you this really quickly. | |
| There was a snapping turtle in the road. | |
| This has happened to me twice, and I don't want to kill it, but the thing would get up, turn around, and snapped my stick in half. | |
| And I knew off the road there's a little pond, a little river, so there was a construction area where there was like two-by-fours kind of stakes, so what I finally did was I got the snapping turtle, because it kept turning around trying to get aggressive with me, so I turned my back to the pond, I scooped it, and like Highland Games, I scooped it and whipped it back Into the pond. | |
| Probably went about 50 feet in the air. | |
| I heard it plunge. | |
| And it landed on a judge's face. | |
| He made it. | |
| You said this has happened twice? | |
| Twice. | |
| You've done this twice with snapping turtles? | |
| Where are you going with so many snapping turtles? | |
| I'll show you. | |
| It's not fun. | |
| They're all around. | |
| They're all around you. | |
| Are you going to drive me into the woods and you're like, yeah, we're just going to go see snapping turtles? | |
| Hey, what's with the shallow grave? | |
| You don't need a deep one, Dave. | |
| No, Dave, you have to dig six feet to find them turtles. | |
| Just look down there. | |
| There's a snapping turtle down there. | |
| In the grave? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Why do you keep calling it a grave? | |
| I put some lavender in there. | |
| Take a sniff. | |
| Do you like lavender? | |
| Oh, that's nice lavender. | |
| But it is. | |
| What did he say? | |
| He said it has to be consistent with training. | |
| It is consistent with training. | |
| It is. | |
| That is consistent. | |
| I have a problem with the training. | |
| You guys should have a problem with the training. | |
| I do. | |
| But your problem is with the training. | |
| Let's be clear. | |
| Chauvin didn't go rogue by putting his knee on his neck. | |
| He was taught that. | |
| And police officers get mad at me. | |
| Most of our police officers, when it comes to physical altercations outside of the use of weapons, are incompetent. | |
| Are completely incompetent, and that needs to be fixed. | |
| It's also why we shouldn't have weak female officers out in the field. | |
| What do you think a weak female officer is going to do when you get nailed in the head with a snare drum by Antifa, and you're 5'2", and you have to do a plank because you can't do the knee tuck for the PT requirement? | |
| I want big, strong, capable men who don't have to use their weapons. | |
| Or a sturdy girl. | |
| A buxom woman. | |
| I want GSP. | |
| George St. | |
| Pierre is the perfect police officer. | |
| He's a welterweight. | |
| Yeah, but he's fine. | |
| It doesn't matter. | |
| I want Sly Stallone's ex that hooks up with Flava Flav. | |
| I want Frank Stallone. | |
| I want him to go, take it back, do-do-do-do, take it back. | |
| No. | |
| We should listen to this statement because it's, you know, landmark case and what have you. | |
| Who was handcuffed, who was not resisting. | |
| Not unless he requests to be put on the ground, which he did. | |
| Again, we showed you guys the video. | |
| You can rewind it and come back here live while you're watching right now. | |
| He requested to be put on the ground because he didn't want to be in an open-windowed, air-conditioned car. | |
| the other lawyers should be all in white and then there should be ceiling fans on | |
| and he should speak with a southern accent while wiping himself with a handkerchief | |
| this here is a trial you're also going to learn about another very important | |
| policy in the minneapolis police department that's a poor Oh, you know what? | |
| Here, let's play this really quickly. | |
| Just because they said, Floyd said, I can't breathe 27 times, I've got to believe that includes the many, many times where he tried to use it to get out of being arrested for a crime. | |
| I've got to imagine, because we have a clip of him saying, I can't breathe, long before he was even restrained. | |
| Here you go. | |
| Take a seat. | |
| Ah! | |
| Leave me! | |
| Leave! | |
| No, I can't choke. | |
| Take a seat. | |
| I can't choke. | |
| I can't breathe. | |
| I can't choke. | |
| Leave me! | |
| Leave me! | |
| Ah! | |
| He was looking for private judo lessons. | |
| By the way, do you think he would have calmed down in the backseat of that car? | |
| If that's your argument, that if you could have just calmed him down, it would have been fine. | |
| He would have flipped out. | |
| Have you ever tried to calm someone down on fentanyl and methamphetamine? | |
| No. | |
| And they can't breathe. | |
| It proves surprisingly difficult. | |
| Fentanyl. | |
| They're positively surly! | |
| This is Intervention Coordinator. | |
| In your custody is in your care. | |
| You're going to learn that when Mr. Floyd was unconscious, that when he was breathless, when he did not have a pulse, that there was a duty to have administered care. | |
| To let up and get up. | |
| Duty. | |
| That's exactly what I'm... You listen to Minneapolis Police Commander Katie Blackwell. | |
| No relation to my knowledge. | |
| But you will hear from Katie Blackwell, and she's going to tell you about the training that Mr. Chauvin received. | |
| You're going to hear that he was a veteran on the Minneapolis Police Department for 19 years, had been trained in CPR multiple times at the time. | |
| And you'll be able to see for yourself. | |
| Okay, really quickly, the reason he didn't perform CPR was also because of another lie. | |
| Let's have the control room, the edit bay, bring this up. | |
| They called the paramedics. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They did. | |
| They called the paramedics. | |
| Did the paramedics perform the CPR? | |
| Yeah. | |
| One of the officers did as well. | |
| Right. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| One of the officers performed CPR as well? | |
| Yeah. | |
| And then they waited for the paramedics. | |
| So they called the paramedics. | |
| That was a lie too, right? | |
| Why was this man there when no medical assistance was called? | |
| It was. | |
| Why was no medical assistance provided? | |
| It was. | |
| So what they are trying to make you think right now is no medical assistance was called. | |
| It was. | |
| And no one helped? | |
| No. | |
| Chauvin didn't perform the CPR. | |
| Cause another officer did. | |
| What if the other officer is better? | |
| What if he just recently had his refresher course? | |
| It doesn't matter if Chauvin did it. | |
| It matters if he was provided the proper medical attention, which he was, but the media lied about that too. | |
| But it also matters when they knew that he needed it. | |
| Did they think he was just passed out because he was on drugs and they were finally able to control him or did they know? | |
| And they may, if they knew early and didn't provide it, then that's where this case comes in. | |
| Right. | |
| But they're assuming that right now. | |
| Well, he just said Chauvin didn't provide CPR. | |
| Right, yeah. | |
| I ain't putting my lips on another man's lips. | |
| I ain't that kind of guy, man. | |
| I ain't just gonna do that. | |
| Give him CPR. | |
| That's gay. | |
| He is going to tell you that Mr. Chauvin's conduct was not consistent with Minneapolis Police Department training. | |
| It was. | |
| But is that the same guy who lied about it earlier? | |
| You know, if Mahoney wasn't joking around all the time, the police would take their jobs a lot more seriously. | |
| He's very clear, he'd be very decisive that this was excessive force. | |
| So ultimately ladies and gentlemen, what was this all about in the first place? | |
| Here we go. | |
| Here it is. | |
| Well you got to learn that it was about a counterfeit $20 bill used at a convenience | |
| store. | |
| That's all. | |
| You will not hear any evidence that Mr. Floyd knew that it was fake or did it on purpose. | |
| You will learn from witnesses we will call. | |
| Nope. | |
| They couldn't have. | |
| Again, go to the clip. | |
| They couldn't have because he wasn't complying the moment they pulled him over. | |
| over. Started screaming, don't shoot me, my mom's dead. And they said, well, reaching | |
| for the, reaching erratically in the car. I said, keep your hands where I can see them. | |
| And he didn't. And that escalated it. Look, maybe this time it wasn't a violent crime | |
| like George Floyd had committed many, many times in the past. Not saying he deserves | |
| Not saying that at all. | |
| But let's be honest, many, many violent crimes in the past, a rap sheet. | |
| Maybe that's not what happened. | |
| Maybe they could have given a ticket for a counterfeit 20, assuming that he didn't even know and he wasn't high on drugs. | |
| But that is irrelevant because then the time frame changes from erratic non-compliance for 10 minutes with the officers. | |
| It's no longer about the counterfeit 20. | |
| They didn't put him on the ground because of a counterfeit 20. | |
| They put him on the ground because he yelled and he screamed and he was non-compliant for 10 minutes and he requested to be put on the ground. | |
| Has nothing to do at that point with the counterfeit 20. | |
| If you're pulled over for going 10 over the speeding limit and the officer says, let me see your ID and you start screaming about you're not that kind of guy and you don't give him your ID and you're reaching for something other than your ID and the officers | |
| say get out of the car and then you say that you can't breathe, you're not that kind | |
| of guy and they say we're going to need to get you into the car while we check your plate | |
| and you refuse to and you request to be put on the ground, it's no longer about your speeding | |
| ticket. | |
| Because I know it was a suspicion of a counterfeit 20. | |
| I don't know that we know that. | |
| It doesn't really matter. | |
| No, it doesn't. | |
| But I'm curious. | |
| I don't think he knew. | |
| I mean, if I'm being honest, he's just a guy on drugs who probably runs around with people. | |
| I think he was an upstanding citizen who would be positively offended to see that someone had counterfeit a bill. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's what I was saying. | |
| It just sucks. | |
| It does. | |
| And on so many levels. | |
| It sucks on so many levels, but what really sucks is that black people are going to be more vulnerable because of these riots and the defunding of police based on a false narrative. | |
| And you're seeing them try to reconstruct it at every turn. | |
| He said he couldn't breathe. | |
| He said he couldn't breathe long before he requested being put in his stomach. | |
| This is just what we've seen so far. | |
| He didn't know it was a counterfeit 20. | |
| It has nothing to do with a counterfeit 20. | |
| It has to do with over 10 minutes of non-compliance. | |
| He was asphyxiated. | |
| Nope. | |
| The coroner report shows that he was not asphyxiated. | |
| There was no damage to the spinal cord whatsoever. | |
| These things aren't true. | |
| It wasn't a part of police training. | |
| It absolutely was a part of police training. | |
| Now, it doesn't mean that there's no accountability or culpability, but you have to then sentence based on the evidence, not based on signs between Walgreens burnings. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| You guys remember this happened to a white guy in Dallas too, right? | |
| Yes. | |
| Virtually the exact same scenario. | |
| Yes, well it happens all the time. | |
| Who died of fentanyl? | |
| No, who died after saying he couldn't breathe and cops were subduing him and had him on the ground. | |
| Same kind of situation, but did you see the riots and burning of Walgreens then? | |
| No. | |
| It didn't happen. | |
| I stole a hat. | |
| Apparently there are a few extra five-finger discounts at Lane Bryant, so the rage rears its head in one form or another. | |
| Don't you need ten fingers for that stuff? | |
| For a big gal. | |
| That's for a big female officer. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | |
| If you want to see it, we have that body cam footage, and it's not a show of him, but it's the rookie cop who's doing CPR. | |
| Oh, okay, let's show this. | |
| So this is the rookie cop who was doing CPR before the paramedics got there who were called. | |
| It's inside the paramedic. | |
| Oh, okay, good. | |
| Well, let's show it. | |
| So the cops were giving him CPR? | |
| So the cops were giving him CPR? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I feel like it's a bit late. | |
| I mean, they got him in right away and started doing it right away. | |
| Yeah, that's true. | |
| I just don't like looking at it. | |
| No, I know. | |
| No one likes it. | |
| All right, that's enough there, Tokunawan. | |
| He's Okinawan, so he's right. | |
| I think the whole situation just sucks, and this is what happens when a bunch of people, | |
| maybe who don't necessarily know what they're doing, one's on drugs, poor training, whatever, | |
| I don't think that a cop would willingly, with all those cameras on him, necessarily do this, but I do think he is responsible for it. | |
| That's just how I feel. | |
| But what is he responsible for, specifically? | |
| I don't think he's responsible for murder. | |
| I think he's responsible for manslaughter, though. | |
| That's a pretty high bar, though. | |
| I mean, you're talking about putting somebody away for, what, 20 weeks? | |
| You've never seen me LULO. | |
| 15 to 20 years. | |
| I don't know what the manslaughter deal is. | |
| Wait, that's a low bar. | |
| I don't either. | |
| Oh, I thought it was a high bar. | |
| That's probably why I'm so good at limbo. | |
| When you do basketball up there, you and Cuomo, they lower the rim. | |
| When you limbo, they raise the bar. | |
| Just so you know, I can dunk on a 5 foot rim. | |
| Very good for you. | |
| Cuomo can dunk on a 4 foot rim. | |
| Especially if he can face palm a toddler out of the way while he does it. | |
| I'm 5'6". | |
| I could not dunk on a 5'7 rim. | |
| I'm not kidding. | |
| No way. | |
| Alright, let's go back to the statement. | |
| So I'm going to show you in a moment one of the videos that you're going to see in this trial just to kind of tee up for you what will be the essence of what we will be focused on in the trial. | |
| I need to tell you ahead of time that the video is graphic, that it can be difficult to watch. | |
| So to be clear, second degree manslaughter, the definition is by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another. | |
| So Chauvin would have to have displayed culpable negligence, considering that he was following the police department protocol. | |
| That's pretty tough. | |
| Again, going by the law. | |
| It would mean that he had to consciously create a scenario where he knew that he could kill somebody. | |
| Well, we've created a scenario where the sins of everything in the past are now riding on this trial and the potential of extreme violence, which is not what our system of law is based on. | |
| It's based on evidence. | |
| Well, our system of law is based on systemic racism and patriarchy. | |
| Of course. | |
| Some of the judges are cocky. | |
| You don't learn that at your luau's. | |
| Yeah, I do. | |
| I vote, we get a pig, we put an apple in its mouth, and by pig I mean cop. | |
| Oh wow. | |
| Right? | |
| Have you seen the little piggies in the starched white shirts? | |
| Always have clean shirts to play around in. | |
| John Lennon, you're responsible for countless dead cops. | |
| He really is. | |
| He was shot by a patriot. | |
| He was. | |
| I joke. | |
| He was really the one that broke up the Beatles, though. | |
| He was. | |
| It was Yoko. | |
| Listen, what do you expect from a self-avowed communist who has four Rolls Royces in the Upper West Side? | |
| He's really an idiot. | |
| He's a man of the people. | |
| He also abused his son. | |
| Who walks around that neighborhood also in the 70s? | |
| You go for a stroll, you're gonna get shot. | |
| I don't know what he's on about. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Nobody got Ringo. | |
| Tragedy. | |
| I'll put my knee on Ringo's neck. | |
| Just for his all-star fame. | |
| It's not showing what it feels like to be under the sea. | |
| Oh, see the pun! | |
| We have older people, younger people. | |
| Just for his all-star fame. | |
| I'll show you what it feels like to be under the sea. | |
| Oh, see the pun. | |
| We'll see. | |
| Is that they saw something that was shocking to them, that was disturbing to them, and | |
| it made them stop and take note. | |
| Stop and take note. | |
| They tried to first... | |
| It does seem long. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| That just seems brutally long to put a knee on a man's neck. | |
| Here's the thing. | |
| If it's taught as a control position, that's not long at all. | |
| It's not taught as an asphyxiation. | |
| So in other words, if you choke someone for a minute, they're dead. | |
| However, anyone who's ever been in, uh, let's take jujitsu matches, because this is where positions like this occur all the time. | |
| Now you're speaking my language. | |
| It's ten minutes. | |
| A ten minute match. | |
| And it's very common for someone to be in a control position far more uncomfortable than that for ten minutes and into overtime. | |
| So a control position held for ten minutes is not long at all. | |
| As a matter of fact, you're supposed to be able to hold it indefinitely. | |
| So if it was taught to the police department as a subdue and control position, that's not long. | |
| Right. | |
| taught as an asphyxiation, which it was not, that's all. | |
| People need to understand that. | |
| Now, I don't think that it's a good control position. I think it's stupid to be taught to | |
| police officers. And I think that pamphlet was probably written by some guy who gave himself | |
| a black belt in some bullshit martial art that doesn't exist. And he gave him a position where, | |
| frankly, George Floyd could have tipped him off, literally tipped him off of him at any point in | |
| time. However, it was taught as a control position. And that's why it matters sort of like when, | |
| and I'm not saying this as an insult, but as someone who has had to deal with control positions, | |
| right? Half of what we learn in jujitsu and wrestling is how to establish control, | |
| how to escape control. 10 minutes is not long. 10 minutes is the minimal expectation of what you are | |
| supposed to be able to hold until backup shows up. That's different between a submission or an | |
| incapacitating move. For example, tasing someone, hitting them with a nightstick, choking them. | |
| That's not what was taught. And this is the problem when you have a group of people watching | |
| it who go, well, that looks bad. Look, there are certain things that look bad that are not painful | |
| For example, being choked unconscious. | |
| That's why we choked Audio Wade here on the show, so that people know what it's like. | |
| If they taught police officers this is how you control someone, which is what they did, that's a problem with the training. | |
| Okay, they're showing a video. | |
| Well, the guy whose name, who wrote the bill, I believe his name is Ray, and he did have a black belt in reijitsu. | |
| Good friend. | |
| Reikwanjitsu Kaino. | |
| I'm in Briody. | |
| My name's Brian. | |
| If this is all you see... | |
| But by the way, they're not choking him there either. | |
| That's important to note. | |
| They're not choking him there. | |
| Right. | |
| That is not expelling the air from him. | |
| No. | |
| Is it bad training? | |
| Yes, but that is not a choke. | |
| But if that's all you see, you assume that that's because he's saying he can't breathe because of that. | |
| If you don't see that he was saying it before, if you don't see that he was saying it when he was getting put in the police car, he was like a cat. | |
| Let's bring back up the clip of him saying I can't breathe well before that happened. | |
| Bring that up. | |
| Show that clip again. | |
| Take a seat. | |
| Leave me. | |
| Leave. | |
| No, I can't take a seat. | |
| I can't. | |
| I can't joke. | |
| I can't breathe. | |
| Again, that is not commensurate with the level of force being used. | |
| He was acting erratically and irrationally. | |
| It's the boy who cried wolf at a certain point. | |
| When you've been saying, I can't breathe, by their own account, 27 times, now people go, hold on a second. | |
| He's also been violent in the past. | |
| Is this an excuse to try and get a jump on us? | |
| Which happens all the time. | |
| Time! | |
| And if their weight is distributed properly, and this is why I say, Dave, this matters. | |
| If your weight is not on their diaphragm, you're not restricting their breathing. | |
| These police officers likely had to have... Look, look, look at that. | |
| He just moved his head. | |
| He just lifted his head and moved his head, rotated it. | |
| Did you see that? | |
| Now, it doesn't mean something didn't happen that was wrong, so I'm not saying that. | |
| I'm saying that he didn't choke him out by doing this. | |
| He didn't suffocate him by doing this. | |
| Right. | |
| Right? | |
| No, I'm just asking... It matters to delineate that, because what they're doing right now is they're showing the jury this and saying, look, that's terrible. | |
| He's able to move his head. | |
| issue here too is someone again people out there who are college wrestlers | |
| high school wrestlers people who do jiu-jitsu judo come on comment send me | |
| your chats at mug club lot of car.com slash mug club you know that when | |
| someone has a lock on you when someone gets you in a side control position when | |
| someone gets you in a cradle you cannot move your head and lift it around you | |
| are pinned it's intentionally uncomfortable and they're not trying to | |
| do that Hey, by the way, can we also have them pull the clip of | |
| where he asked to be put on the ground? | |
| Who said it's why you don't do drugs, kid? | |
| I think it was Sheldon who said it. | |
| That's my, that's my theory. | |
| And that bothers me though. | |
| Of course it does. | |
| That's not, it's not taking it seriously. | |
| That shows neglect, I think. | |
| Well, hold on, Dave. | |
| If this position has been done countless times before, they've had it done to themselves in training, they know what it does to you. | |
| And so if they're thinking, OK, I'm doing a position I've done countless times, it's been done to me, it's uncomfortable, I can breathe, it's totally fine, it's not going to hurt anybody, then you can take it like that and say, OK, this guy's just being erratic. | |
| You have to take all of this context. | |
| It doesn't mean he didn't make a mistake by not turning him over. | |
| It doesn't mean that he made a mistake here. | |
| His mistake is focusing on the crowd and not on George Floyd. | |
| And I don't think it's the crowd's fault. | |
| They're scared for a guy. | |
| It's his fault for saying, guys, y'all shouldn't do drugs. | |
| By the way, there are plenty of instances, especially in these riots, if the crowd starts filming and then beat the hell up. | |
| Oh, of course. | |
| Yeah, no, I'm not kidding. | |
| This happens all the time. | |
| Well, I mean, it's the same as Mel Gibson's wife filming him and getting him all riled up and then hitting record. | |
| And you will blow me! | |
| In the hot tub. | |
| Because I deserve it. | |
| I love how he feels he needs justification. | |
| But I love this, like, he's so like, but I will give you one more chance. | |
| One more chance. | |
| She's like, really? | |
| That's what I wanted, one more chance. | |
| One more chance? | |
| Do you mean it, father? | |
| You made a promise. | |
| Oh, I do look forward to the jacuzzi for our fallaciic aquatic rum. | |
| Yes, I've told everyone. | |
| I can't wait. | |
| You've sincerely earned your treatsies. | |
| He did, though, by being Mal Gibson. | |
| He's like, you like this house? | |
| Yeah, me too. | |
| I'm gonna pull this out. | |
| I'll be in the hot tub. | |
| He has a hot tub. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Just that alone. | |
| I'll get to know him. | |
| By the way, how scared do you think George Floyd is of Chauvin if he said, don't leave me? | |
| I'm sorry, those two things don't add up to me. | |
| You're scared for your life against this one police officer who's apparently going to do something terrible to you and you're like, don't leave me man, don't leave me, don't leave me. | |
| You don't say that to somebody you're scared of. | |
| So all of this matters. | |
| But look at all that blood. | |
| That's pee. | |
| Oh. | |
| And that's terrible, and that's the gut-wrenching part of this. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Is that piss for real? | |
| I believe so, yeah. | |
| Well, that would indicate fear. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You pee yourself if you're on drugs, too, right? | |
| Or death. | |
| Well, I mean, you can. | |
| I mean, a lot of people do it just by drinking. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I do it when I slow dance. | |
| Oh, Jesus. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I know there's a lot of Christians. | |
| I know there's a lot of Christians. | |
| I'm just looking at one human being to another in an isolated situation, and that's... It's horrible itself. | |
| It's hard for me to not look at him like... Even though what he's done in the past, obviously, is horrible, this exact moment is the issue. | |
| Yeah, but it's not... Exactly. | |
| It's not about what he's done in the past. | |
| It's just this moment, I just don't... I think this is too much. | |
| But does that mean that Shelvin is guilty of a crime punishable by 15 years in prison? | |
| That's the question that we're... The question that I... and the honest answer is yes. | |
| By looking at the video and my gut feeling, I just feel that way. | |
| But if this is how they're trained, yeah, you're right. | |
| There's something to look at. | |
| Right, yeah, and I think that's why you want the legal system to be about the facts. | |
| Yeah, and not fear of nation-burning. | |
| Right, yeah, exactly. | |
| I mean, otherwise you end up with O.J. | |
| Well, it's not even the nation-burning part, it's the jurors. | |
| Like, imagine if you're a juror that votes to not convict. | |
| Well, I mean, if the police was there sprinkling blood all over the place, like, for O.J. | |
| That was really the problem, was the LAPD was super racist and evidence-tampering. | |
| Mark Furman was like, I've never used the N-word on tape 11,000 times. | |
| 90s wasn't a great time for LAPD. | |
| It was not a great time for LAPD. | |
| Not a good look. | |
| But O.J. | |
| did it. | |
| He definitely did it. | |
| Oh, he totally did it, but you didn't have to fake it. | |
| That's my point. | |
| We need to add evidence to the mountain of evidence we have. | |
| My problem, Dave, with this, again, this is heartbreaking. | |
| When I watch this, my gut hurts. | |
| Of course, it does. | |
| How does your heart not break? | |
| But that's the thing. | |
| You need to make sure that if you're going to make a judgment call on what happened, you see the whole context. | |
| The state showing just this Is trying to get you to see this and have your heart break and never be able to think of it any other way. | |
| And the guys that are coming up behind him in the defense and saying, look, but all of this that led up to it matters. | |
| All of this that happened matters. | |
| It's possible that he would have been so erratic in the back of that car that he could have died on the way to the police station. | |
| Yeah, we have that video of him asking to be put on the ground. | |
| But it is possible that he had a panic attack and couldn't breathe even then. | |
| But you know what, though? | |
| Yeah, but you can't base police protocol on not subduing someone if they have a panic attack. | |
| Well, I agree. | |
| Because, you know, I've had this happen, actually. | |
| My dad will tell you, the first time anyone who's ever done jiu-jitsu, I've just gotten into a position, and the first time it happens, I've had people tap. | |
| The very first UFC. | |
| You watch MMA now, right? | |
| And you watch it and you see people, okay, exchanging positions on the ground. | |
| The very first fight that ever happened was Hoyce Gracie, 170 pounds, against a boxer named Art Jimerson. | |
| He came in with one boxing glove. | |
| And do you know what happened? | |
| Hoyce Gracie took Art Jimerson down, and he simply got to a position we know as mount. | |
| Meaning, he got on top of him. | |
| All. | |
| And you just see the one boxing glove tapping. | |
| He had a panic attack and he tapped. | |
| Nowadays, that's just getting started. | |
| Someone will escape. | |
| There'll be some kind of a sweep rotating positions because people know what's going on. | |
| Anyone who goes into their first will panic. | |
| This is a professional boxer who simply found himself on his back and he panicked and tapped. | |
| And you can hear the story. | |
| He's told the story. | |
| He said, I feel like I couldn't breathe. | |
| I felt like a fish out of water. | |
| I panicked. | |
| It's supposed to make you feel powerless so that you don't fight and get violent. | |
| Let's show the clip really quickly of him asking to be put on the ground, because that is relevant. | |
| He is only on the ground by request. | |
| And keep in mind, the protocol for keeping someone controlled on the ground is very different from a police car with doors that cannot be opened from the inside, that are childproof, right? | |
| That's the point. | |
| They tried to get him in the car many, many times. | |
| He said, I can't breathe in the car, so put me on the ground. | |
| here is his request. | |
| He's struggling hard right there. | |
| They're trying to push him in the car. | |
| And he's saying, I'm gonna get on the ground. | |
| And now they're saying, okay, let's get him out and get him on the ground. | |
| I'm not gonna worry about it. | |
| You walked out a heart attack too. | |
| I know I can't breathe. | |
| Get in the car! | |
| There's some more I can't breathe. | |
| There's some more I can't breathe. | |
| None. | |
| Whatsoever. | |
| They're trying to lift him up and he's saying he can't breathe. | |
| Is he saying put me on the ground? | |
| I can't breathe. | |
| Take a seat. | |
| There is no weight on him right now. | |
| None whatsoever. | |
| They're trying to lift him up and he's saying he can't breathe. | |
| Is he saying put me on the ground? | |
| Yes. | |
| He said it multiple times. | |
| Earlier he said put me anywhere on the ground. | |
| Leave me. | |
| I can't fucking breathe. | |
| I couldn't tell if it was butt the ground. | |
| Because I watched the video a few times but it's hard to understand with all the... Yeah. | |
| No, he's saying put me on the ground. | |
| He's saying that he wants to go on the ground and he's refusing to get in the car. | |
| Well, listen, there's a reason that people put... | |
| Put suspects, put assailants, put criminals in cop cars because it's the safest place. | |
| Both for them and for the people to whom they could do damage in the community. | |
| Someone on fentanyl and meth, someone who's committed multiple violent crimes in the past, a threat to the community, and so you do treat that person differently. | |
| Well, and if it comes down to it, Chauvin, now I'm almost going to do what you're doing, made a mistake. | |
| Like, if that's the deal, like he didn't rule him over and it was a mistake, it wasn't intentional, let's just assume, right? | |
| Let's just assume that's the case. | |
| Would he not also be just as responsible? | |
| Because George Floyd could, you could say, well, if you had just gotten in the car. | |
| They had you there. | |
| If you had just gotten in the car, the rest of this... Now, it's not like someone took his gun out and shot him. | |
| That wouldn't have mattered at that point. | |
| Well, that's different. | |
| You couldn't say to George Floyd, you know, in retrospect, saying, hey, if you'd just gotten in the car, right? | |
| But in this case, if that's all that they prove is that he made a mistake by not rolling him over, Don't you have to take it and expand it? | |
| But wouldn't Chauvin then be dead, and Floyd would be on trial for manslaughter? | |
| I mean, if you... If Chauvin was the one that died in this? | |
| No, no, no, no, that's not what I was saying. | |
| I think you were saying if Chauvin pulled out his gun and shot him. | |
| Yeah, it's not like after he refused to get in the car, Chauvin pulled out his gun and shot him. | |
| That would be obvious, like, that Chauvin had committed a crime. | |
| But if all we can say is that he was trained poorly, was something that should never have been done, and he made a mistake towards the end, not rolling over... Let me ask you this, Dave. | |
| When you watched all that in the car, and the pullover, do you think that any of that is excessive? | |
| The force in the car? | |
| Well, them getting him out of his car, which by the way, the irony is not lost on me that he can't get in a car because he's claustrophobic when he was driving in a compact. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It seems that it's a fear of being inside police cars, not claustrophobia. | |
| It's police claustrophobia. | |
| Let me ask you this. | |
| Do you think that it was like that right there in the car was excessive? | |
| No, uh, based on his history, the number of police surrounding him. | |
| Now, if it was anybody else not based on his history, I would be a little surprised because that does seem like a lot of people on one just for an initial stop. | |
| But, well, no, I think it was two people. | |
| It was two people and then there were more. | |
| Which is now the standard, right? | |
| Like one has to be. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Uh, no, I don't. | |
| Because I'm asking because you can't get him in the car. | |
| I understand that they can't get him in the car. | |
| I understand that they're fighting with him. | |
| I don't think, I think it's excessive on both their parts. | |
| Right. | |
| Or not excessive at all if you're gonna, I guess to put it that way. | |
| Right. | |
| My, my thing is when he's on the ground. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And he's got his knee on his neck for nine and a half minutes. | |
| That is excessive. | |
| The rest of it, I don't think, I think they're just trying to do their best. | |
| So let me ask you this. | |
| You're a police officer. | |
| This is, this is something, so let's walk through this and then I want to go back to his statements here. | |
| And I'm just, I'm just playing No, no, I appreciate it, and don't take this personally, because I understand. | |
| You have the same questions so many people out there do. | |
| Yeah, I'm really just trying to figure out what happened. | |
| Dave is hysterical, and he's very clear about the fact that he's more moderate, and I understand where he's lining up here. | |
| I think that he should have been turned over as well. | |
| However, let's walk this through. | |
| You pull a man over. | |
| Well, I think defunding police and rioting is stupid. | |
| Yes, of course, of course you do. | |
| That's a whole other thing. | |
| You're what, when people say, I'm reasonable moderate, it doesn't exist anymore. | |
| There's like, you and no one. | |
| Morons. | |
| But, okay, pull him over. | |
| Guy is erratic. | |
| Guy saying his mom is dead. | |
| Guy's not putting his hands above his head. | |
| Saying, don't shoot me. | |
| You say, I won't shoot you. | |
| Okay. | |
| Now you try and take him over to the cop car. | |
| He's screaming that I can't breathe. | |
| Okay? | |
| He refuses to get in the cop car. | |
| At this point, you have multiple officers come in. | |
| After you've made accommodations. | |
| After you've made accommodations, you've rolled down the window. | |
| He says, I can't breathe, I'm going to have a heart attack. | |
| I won't get in the cop car, okay? | |
| You can't, and at this point, keep in mind, the officers are not able to control him. | |
| That's all the officers trying to get him into the car, kicking them off, pushing. | |
| He's bigger and stronger. | |
| They have no ability to control him. | |
| He refuses, says, I will not get in the car. | |
| Okay, so now he says, put me on the ground. | |
| You have no choice because you can't deal with this guy's strength to get him in the cop car. | |
| You saw that. | |
| Okay, now you've gotten a man who's resisted arrest, who has a history of violent criminal behavior, who seems to be on drugs and erratic, on the ground, outside of a cop car, and you need to wait until backup comes up. | |
| What do you need to do? | |
| You need to control him on the ground. | |
| How have you been taught to do it? | |
| So what else does someone do? | |
| The point is, oh, it's excessive. | |
| Sure. | |
| How long did it take for backup to arrive? | |
| How long did it take for the paramedics to arrive? | |
| That's how long you have to control someone on the ground. | |
| My point is, it's a horrible control technique. | |
| The liability should be with the police department teaching that right now. | |
| And that's not racial profiling, it's bad physical training. | |
| But this man is on the ground, you haven't been able to control him with handcuffs, in the car, multiple officers, you now have a waiting period. | |
| How do you control him? | |
| They used the only tools that were available to them to control him. | |
| Well, and defunding the police and EMTs in a lot of those neighborhoods with, especially, that's a really hard job, too, being an EMT, and having to get there in all those different places and time. | |
| Yeah, it does matter how long it took them to get there, and in those neighborhoods, we all know people have bled out because they can't get their services in time to even help anyone. | |
| Right. | |
| So there's a lot of things that, yeah, can come into play of why that's a tragedy. | |
| I just don't know how anything, I don't know how differently it could have played out short of the training. | |
| But you think that's the only training for that situation, I guess is my question. | |
| It's what they're trained to do to control someone on the ground cuffed. | |
| That's strange to me, though. | |
| It's strange to me that they were teaching police officers with taekwondo for hand-to-hand combat for 30 years when they had a 50-pound utility belt. | |
| They don't have very good hand-to-hand training at all. | |
| We've had cops come into our schools regularly, even when I was a fill-in teacher, and they have no idea how to deal with someone physically. | |
| They're good with guns, they're good with sticks, they're good with tasers. | |
| We need reform of police training first. | |
| Police training needs to be better first, and that requires funding. | |
| Sorry, let's go and listen No, it requires you to take away the money. | |
| Yes, first. | |
| And you'll hear from a number of experts on the stand that putting a man in the prone position with handcuffs behind his back, somebody on his neck and back, pressing down on him for 9 minutes and 29 seconds is enough to take a life. | |
| But that's not what took his life. | |
| No. | |
| Autopsy. | |
| No evidence of strangulation or asphyxiation. | |
| Lethal amounts of drugs. | |
| So, could it? | |
| Figuratively? | |
| Maybe. | |
| But we know what took his life. | |
| It wasn't asphyxiation. | |
| You get road rash from moving and scraping. | |
| Trying to resist, yeah. | |
| No, his head was turned to the side. | |
| Right now, if you put me on a road, naked, and you lay Gerald, Dave, Korda Black Garrett, Tokunawa, and Tooman, everyone here, on top of me, I will not have road rash. | |
| Sounds weird. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's not possible. | |
| It'll just press into you. | |
| Road rash- I'll give you a rash. | |
| It requires movement. | |
| Friction. | |
| Which requires what? | |
| Some space. | |
| To move. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What he just said, I think, was a lie, though. | |
| He just said, you'll see nose imprints, where he pushed his face into the ground so that he could create room to breathe. | |
| And I was like, actually, we have video of his head being to the side. | |
| His head being to the side, and his head then coming up, off the ground, and moving the other side. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I don't know about a lawyer line, but... Jesus. | |
| And this, this is important, too. | |
| And the cops say this, if you can talk, you can breathe. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, that's true, but that's... And they're telling him to calm down. | |
| They're telling him, like, hey, calm down, calm down, calm down. | |
| That's like when you're wrestling with your brother, though, or your rock-hard uncle, and you're like, I can't breathe because you don't know the words to explain that I'm losing air. | |
| I'm gonna get in trouble for that. | |
| I don't know what you're talking about. | |
| Well, it's just the verbalization of saying, I'm starting to feel as if I'm losing air is why I can't breathe, is just what you say. | |
| It's almost a childlike response. | |
| Or a dishonest response that people use reflexively to try and get out of being That's clearly what was going on here. | |
| In other words, the reason I can't breathe. | |
| If he was saying, all right, look, hey, I don't like cars. | |
| Can you put me on the ground? | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| I'm going to go on and then goes, Oh man, I can't breathe. | |
| Can you ease up? | |
| Very, very different from, all right, man, put your hands behind my back. | |
| I can't breathe. | |
| I can't breathe. | |
| Hey, look, look at the back of the car, I can't, I gotta, I gotta, I | |
| gotta, don't leave me, don't leave me, don't leave me, I can't breathe, look, look, put me on | |
| the ground, put me on the ground, put me on the ground. | |
| At no point did he stop from the moment he was pulled out of his car saying, I can't | |
| breathe. | |
| And that's why it was treated just like the other 27 times of I can't breathe when they | |
| knew he could breathe. | |
| Right. | |
| And it just shows you that there are other possible explanations for what happened other | |
| than a white guy who's a cop killed a black guy. | |
| Which is what the media has been telling us. | |
| Let's say he's guilty. | |
| Let's say he's guilty for manslaughter. | |
| I don't believe that he is. | |
| You and I disagree on that because of the legal definition I don't think it meets it. | |
| We also have to allow for the fact That everything being carried out up until this point was kosher, and let's just say we disagree in the last nine minutes, that it isn't due to racism. | |
| That it's due to a guy who's fed up with someone high off his mind being a difficult dick and wanting to go home to his wife that night. | |
| Maybe, or maybe he had a bad day and was like, alright, this is, alright, okay, now I'm just gonna keep you here until the paramedics get here. | |
| It doesn't necessarily mean it has anything to do with race, even if you allow for the possibility of manslaughter. | |
| And the pivot to, this is racial, by the way, other officers, there's one guy who's a minor, is it two who are minorities? | |
| At least one. | |
| One's black and one's Latino? | |
| At least one. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Asian, we said there was an Asian option. | |
| Well back then, that's when Asians didn't matter, but now they're the newest victim. | |
| Now there's Black Lives Matter, Asian Lives Matter, which is careful, careful, almost getting to all lives matter. | |
| Careful, he's up! | |
| You add one more. | |
| What are we, a white supremacist nation? | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Oh yeah, those two guys are white for sure. | |
| He's in some movies, right? | |
| He was there when they dropped the bomb. | |
| Totally a joke. | |
| I gotta lighten the mood here. | |
| He was calling out for his life. | |
| He was struggling. | |
| He was not passing out. | |
| Now you're also going to hear From a forensic pathologist, Dr. Lindsey Thomas. | |
| And what she does as a forensic pathologist, she studies body tissues on autopsy to try to determine the cause and manner of death. | |
| She did this over a 35-year career as a forensic pathologist. | |
| A woman doctor? | |
| Over that period of time, she had done medical care. | |
| Well, she's a PA. | |
| That's good enough. | |
| She's a nurse and we need something a little sexy. | |
| We need something a little sexy. | |
| OJ had the Kardashians and shit. | |
| Oh boy. | |
| She's semi-retired now and works as a consultant still in the field of pathology. | |
| She was one of the persons who helped to train the current Hennepin County Medical Examiner, Dr. Andrew Baker, when he was just getting started out in forensic pathology. | |
| Is that the examiner who said there was no proof of asphyxiation? | |
| Andrew Baker? | |
| Baker. | |
| Yeah. Listen, Andrew Baker. So... Andrew Baker? Baker. | |
| Baker. From Dr. Baker. | |
| Maybe he should stick to making gay cakes. | |
| When he lists manner of death for Jewish boys, homicide. | |
| Now I want to explain to you that when he uses homicide, it's not the way that we use it here in the courtroom. | |
| When the medical examiner says homicide, it simply means that the person died at the hands of another. | |
| That's what that means. | |
| And I will show you what list that's chosen from in just a minute and Dr. Thomas will come in and testify about that. | |
| But it means that he died at the hands of another. | |
| But you'll also learn Uh, that he listed a cause of death. | |
| Cardiopulmonary arrest, complicating, law enforcement, subdual, restraint, and neck compression. | |
| Now, I'm going to translate that into English, and you'll hear this from Dr. Thomas. | |
| Wait, are they trying to say this is from a separate... Separate person. | |
| A separate person, because this is not the Hennepin... They just mentioned... See, they just conflated it. | |
| The Hennepin County autopsy did not show that. | |
| They were saying that this person trained that person, so this is a third party. | |
| Do you see what he just did there? | |
| He tried to make it seem as though it's somehow connected to the county, whereas the county said no. | |
| You have that collage right here. | |
| There was fentanyl in his system, a lethal amount of fentanyl. | |
| Was it methamphetamine or crack cocaine? | |
| Methamphetamine. | |
| 19 nanograms per milliliter. | |
| The autopsy revealed that no physical findings supported diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation or strain gland. | |
| That's the official from the county. | |
| These people doctor shopped and found someone else to. | |
| Look at that. | |
| What he's quoting from is a press release. | |
| Yeah, he's quoting from there's a press release. | |
| So they didn't actually examine the body. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't know if she examined the body post or what, but they're quoting from a press release trying to make it seem like, well, no, this is the official story. | |
| Here's what they're saying. | |
| She trained the Hennepin County Examiner, and she believes this, but the Hennepin County Examiner, the official examination, the autopsy report says... The person who actually saw the body. | |
| The person who actually did the examination. | |
| He was trained by a lady doctor and we're taking this all seriously? | |
| This whole thing should be thrown out. | |
| He brings up another one. | |
| You're horrible. | |
| I'm just... Come on, guys. | |
| You're doing great. | |
| All right, hold on a second. | |
| So, how does a disease lead to death? | |
| Car accident can be an accidental death. | |
| Suicide. | |
| Homicide, which is when they chose death at the hands of another. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Or undetermined. | |
| That if you can't tell which it is or what it is, you indicate undetermined. | |
| And here you learn that Dr. Andrew Baker And Dr. Thomas determined amongst these possible manners of death, it wasn't natural, not accidental, not suicide, not undetermined, it was homicide. | |
| Death at the hands of another. | |
| But that's not all that Dr. Thomas is going to tell you. | |
| She's going to tell you something about the limitations. | |
| What's the name of the coroner? | |
| Or the county medical examiner? | |
| Hennepin County? | |
| Baker. | |
| It was Andrew Baker. | |
| Baker? | |
| Actually, they're saying Baker and Thomas both came to this conclusion. | |
| That's what he just said. | |
| Yeah, but right now I'm reading this right here. | |
| Hennepin County Medical Examiner, conducted May 26, 2020. | |
| Full report is pending. | |
| The autopsy revealed no physical findings that supported diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. | |
| Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions, including coronary artery disease and hypersensitive heart disease. | |
| The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions, and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death. | |
| And then the next note right here that I have, and you can bring this up, I believe says, Andrew Baker said that if Mr. Floyd had been found dead in his home or anywhere else and there were no other concerning factors, he would conclude that it was an overdose death. | |
| So, in other words, there are these contributing factors, and what they're having to say is that it wasn't an accident like slipping in the tub. | |
| So, you have to categorize it in one of those five categories. | |
| Right. | |
| But like you said, homicide means death. | |
| He's saying at the hands of another involving someone else. | |
| Right, yeah. | |
| Now, what that means is difficult for law. | |
| They're not saying that legally he's responsible for that death. | |
| They're just saying that in this case, but yeah. | |
| Well, and if you weren't on fentanyl and you died because of that, that's one thing. | |
| But yeah, there's so many factors that could be into play to create that bomb. | |
| Put it this way. | |
| Technically, if I was on a bunch of fentanyl and methamphetamine and I went to the bathroom, came out, and you went, boo, and I dropped dead from a heart attack, that would have to be medically listed as a homicide. | |
| Doesn't mean you're guilty of murder or manslaughter. | |
| And he's tried. | |
| I have. | |
| He pulls the old slip the fentanyl and methamphetamine in my Cheerios trick. | |
| Wait a second! | |
| Am I really superhuman, able to leave buildings in a single bound, or is this just Dave's old fentanyl and metham the Cheerios trick? | |
| Yep, and for some reason we have a lot of ghost costumes here. | |
| That is strange. | |
| Now, by the way, just to confirm, just to make sure everybody's on the same page here, if Chauvin is kneeling on this guy's neck thinking, all right, finally I get to take my revenge on the black man, I'm not getting up until he's dead, we would all say Fryam, right? | |
| Yes. | |
| Of course. | |
| Right? | |
| Well, yeah, in a heartbeat. | |
| So that's what the media is saying, that this is why this happened. | |
| Right. | |
| We're saying, well, hold on, there doesn't seem to be any evidence of that. | |
| There still doesn't seem to be any evidence of that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| His wife was Miss Minnesota. | |
| Good for him. | |
| Really? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I forgot about that. | |
| That's not exactly Miss Argentina or Venezuela. | |
| No. | |
| Not the same. | |
| The talent pool's a little more shallow. | |
| Basically, half of that talent pool is pulled from the 4-H club. | |
| Well, that's true. | |
| If it's right, I believe she's of Asian descent. | |
| And Miss Minnesota. | |
| Not to be confused with Miss Michigan. | |
| My right hand, right, Craig? | |
| Get it? | |
| Yay, we've all dated her. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'm a lefty. | |
| I go reverse European. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| No one deserved that. | |
| and i just died for that you could but the cost of all i'm i'm a response to the way i think it's a little bit of | |
| a problem we can tell the squad car | |
| he starts trying to count one two up the manhandling some into the car with a handcuffs on | |
| and you'll see i freaks out | |
| uh... from that uh... you hear him say that can't breathe in the back of | |
| the squad car and we will show you | |
| and the back of the squad car with mr shop at one point has hands around this the floors net | |
| one squad car and another. | |
| His arm and elbow around his neck with this. | |
| the Floyd's head here when the opponent out of the squad car put him on the ground in | |
| a prone position. | |
| That couldn't be less. | |
| What are you going to grab when he's flopping like a fish in the car? | |
| Do people understand the difference between a choke and a headlock? | |
| Look, headlocks in high school wrestling, legal. | |
| Chokes are not. | |
| A headlock is how you grab someone. | |
| It's like you grab your brother. | |
| You're pulling someone out of the car because you can't get him into the car. | |
| This guy's making a case against himself right now. | |
| And also, Floyd's 6'4", 223 pounds. | |
| Like, you're supposed to, like, grab him by the pinky? | |
| Well, and that's how you save somebody who's drowning. | |
| You put your arm around their neck and under their arm and pull them to safety. | |
| Yes. | |
| It's used... Did he say around his neck and under his arm? | |
| He didn't say under his arm, just around his neck. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So you want him to shoot him? | |
| They're armed! | |
| Is that true? | |
| What? | |
| I didn't see a choke hold in the car. | |
| He didn't even say choke hold. | |
| He said he had his arm around his neck. | |
| In other words, he grabbed him and pulled him out of the car. | |
| But he's trying to conflate. | |
| Look, he was already choking. | |
| In other words, he was saying he couldn't breathe because of that, but we already showed you footage where George Floyd was saying, I can't breathe, when he was sitting! | |
| George Floyd was in this exact position, sitting, saying, I can't breathe! | |
| I can't breathe! | |
| I can't breathe! | |
| It has nothing to do with a headlock to place him, by request, on the ground, and it has nothing to do with the reason he was saying, I can't breathe, the control position on the ground. | |
| He was saying it when there was no reason to believe it. | |
| So anyone who's watched this video, the full tape, he just made a case against himself. | |
| This attorney right now. | |
| This is important to note. | |
| He just made the case against himself saying, and you can see George Floyd saying, I can't breathe in the car. | |
| So people who haven't seen this tape are going to go, wait a second. | |
| I thought he only said I can't breathe when he was on the ground. | |
| He was saying I can't breathe the entire time. | |
| That's the point. | |
| That boy lost his job when the COVID pandemic hit, so that's a whole interesting circle. | |
| I thought he was going to show the tape of the armor on the neck. | |
| I guess he'll just describe it. | |
| Unless there's another body cam angle. | |
| It looks like he's got an arm under... Can we see it? | |
| He's got an arm under Floyd's arm, but there's nothing showing that he has a headlock. | |
| Right, there's an underhook. | |
| And then when he pulls him out, he doesn't have a headlock. | |
| Let me see, so that's not a headlock. | |
| Is this the Chauvin body camera, or which one is Chauvin? | |
| I think Chauvin has his arm around him. | |
| Yeah, this is the other guy, Lane, I think. | |
| I think that was his point. | |
| Okay, well, it's on his neck. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| No headlock. | |
| He's not hurting him. | |
| You're right, he's escorting him out. | |
| It's not... I don't know. | |
| I don't like this. | |
| ...engaging in eminently dangerous behavior, putting the knee on the neck, the knee on the back, for 9 minutes and 29 seconds, without regard for Mr. Floyd's life. | |
| We're going to ask that you find him guilty of murder in the second degree, murder in the third degree, and second degree. | |
| So let me bring this up. | |
| Again, the bar that needs to be passed for murder, I have these definitions written in front of me. | |
| So murder third degree, if he wants to charge a murder third degree, defined whoever without intent to affect the death of any person causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind. | |
| Yeah, we have the defense argument now. | |
| for human life is guilty of murder in the third degree. | |
| So he would have had to cause the death, which again is not from the toxicology report. | |
| Do we have murder in the second degree? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Defense. | |
| Yeah, we have the defense argument now. | |
| I'm going to spend a lot of time talking about doubt. | |
| But for purposes of my remarks this morning, I want to talk about reason and common sense | |
| and how that applies to the evidence that you're about to see during the course of this | |
| tribe. | |
| Reason is an idea that wholly permeates our law, our legal system, and it forms the foundation. | |
| And you will see and hear that repeatedly throughout the course of this trial. | |
| He's funny on Big Bang Theory. | |
| What would a reasonable police officer do? | |
| What is a reasonable use of force? | |
| What would a reasonable person do in his or her most important affairs? | |
| What is a reasonable doubt? | |
| As such, reason dictates and necessitates how the evidence must be looked at and analyzed in every single case. | |
| And common sense is exactly that. | |
| It's common sense. | |
| Common sense tells you that there are always two sides to a story. | |
| Common sense tells us that we need to examine the totality of circumstances to determine the meaning of them. | |
| Yeah, suffice. | |
| COVID can't go over seven feet. | |
| This whole thing is just unreal. | |
| Every bit of this courtroom and everything happening. | |
| In other words, common sense is the application of sound judgment based upon a reason. | |
| Oh, it really is, isn't it? | |
| And that's what this case is ultimately about. | |
| It's about the evidence in this case. | |
| The evidence that you will see in this case during this trial. | |
| It is, I agree with counsel for the state. | |
| Rosebud. | |
| It is nothing more than that. | |
| There is no political or social cause in this courtroom. | |
| But the evidence is far greater than 9 minutes and 29 seconds. | |
| In this case, you will learn that the evidence has been collected broadly and expansively. | |
| Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension employed nearly 50 case agents, analysts, and technicians to investigate this case. | |
| Were all the other cops fired? | |
| of investigation included at least 28 additional agents in their investigation. | |
| Okay. | |
| Were all the other cops fired? | |
| These agents combined. | |
| I know that two of them were. | |
| I don't know that all, the last ones to come on the scene maybe not, but I think you're | |
| right. | |
| The two that were with him. | |
| Okay, I knew something happened, but I wasn't sure. | |
| Including the officers who responded to the scene after Mr. | |
| Floyd was brought to the hospital. | |
| They interviewed members of the Minneapolis Police Department command staff. | |
| Bye! | |
| They interviewed officers who oversee training and policy making decisions within the Minneapolis Police Department. | |
| They have interviewed nearly 200 civilian witnesses in this case. | |
| Some of these witnesses saw the entire incident. | |
| Some who saw a portion of the incident. | |
| Many who saw nothing. | |
| And some who had some piece of information to give to the officers. | |
| And others who had not. | |
| Can you stop stepping too and away from the microphone like I am Sam? | |
| These agents interviewed the numerous medical personnel who interviewed them. | |
| He's like Joe Biden. | |
| I think Chauvin needs to go home right now! | |
| You never go full retard. | |
| By the way, it looks like all the cops were fired. | |
| All of them were fired? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Four, right? | |
| Four. | |
| I knew that two were, and then I... Six total ended up there, so I think the last two were fine. | |
| I believe this case called the Bates Stamp Number. | |
| The bait stamp system is a way for lawyers to keep track of the case. | |
| To make sure that we are working from the same set of documents, the same set of evidence. | |
| To preserve the integrity of the investigation. | |
| You will learn that we are approaching 50,000 bait stamped items. | |
| So this case is clearly more than about 9 minutes and 29 seconds. | |
| Go ahead, go pee. | |
| Go urinate, Dave, because I do too. | |
| Also, during jury selection, the witness of this case neared 400 people. | |
| Make it quick or you'll need glasses. | |
| So how do we begin to analyze and organize this evidence? | |
| I suggest that you let common sense and reason guide you. | |
| I propose that every witness you will hear from and every piece of evidence that you | |
| will see or hear during this trial can be assigned to one of four basic locations. | |
| I Cup foods, Mercedes-Benz, | |
| Squad 320 and Hennepin County Medical School. | |
| So here's the challenge, too, though, that he's making. | |
| The challenge with his case. | |
| The first man came out, and even though it wasn't particularly factually based, it was entirely an appeal to emotion. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| And this guy's saying, I'm just going with the evidence. | |
| He's got to do both. | |
| Yeah. | |
| He's got to do both. | |
| So far, I'm picking Vinny. | |
| I'm going with this guy. | |
| Or Mr. Floyd's ex-girlfriend, Shawanda Hill. | |
| And he offered her a ride. | |
| You will hear from Chris Martin, who is the store clerk at Cup Foods. | |
| Mr. Martin observed Mr. Floyd. | |
| He watched his body language. | |
| He interacted with Mr. Floyd in this moment. | |
| Mr. Martin informed the media that Mr. Floyd was under the influence of something. | |
| You will see the actual video from inside Cup Foods. | |
| Mr. Floyd did use a counterfeit $20 bill to purchase a pack of cigarettes. | |
| Mr. Martin realized this, and first, along with another one of his co-workers, named Nabil Walter, went outside to the car where Mr. Floyd, Mr. Hall, and Miss Hill were sitting. | |
| Mr. Martin asked Mr. Floyd to come in and either buy the cigarettes, exchange, or return the cigarettes. | |
| And you will hear, from Mr. Martin, that Mr. Hall and Mr. Floyd refused. | |
| You will hear that a short time later. | |
| Mr. Martin went back to the car a second time. | |
| He went back to ask them again, please come inside, give us the money, or return the cigarettes. | |
| And that second time, again, Mr. Floyd refused. | |
| Now, I wasn't fully aware of that, that interaction, which is kind of important, because that's George Floyd being a dick to a local member of the community who just doesn't want to be fleeced for a pack of cigarettes. | |
| Does it mean he deserved...? | |
| No, of course not. | |
| But again, people try and paint it as, oh, this is a guy who had a prior criminal history a long time ago, but like a Tukey Williams thing. | |
| Now it's really, look, when people talk about, we need to serve and protect our own community, George Floyd was ripping off shop owners, and the shop owner was giving him an out, saying, look, please, hey, look, man, this is fake. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Give me, give me the cigarettes back or pay for it. | |
| Twice, two times. | |
| He can call the police immediately. | |
| Yeah. | |
| He was giving him a chance. | |
| Southbound in the northbound lane of Chicago Avenue, and were directed by store employees immediately to the second location, the Mercedes Benz. | |
| During this trial, you will hear evidence of what happened in the Mercedes-Benz in the 20 to 30 minutes prior to the police arriving. | |
| You will hear from Mr. Floyd's friends, Shawanda Hill and Maurice Hall. | |
| This will include evidence that while they were in the car, Mr. Floyd consumed what were thought to be two Percocet pills. | |
| Mr. Floyd's friends will explain that Mr. Floyd fell asleep in the car and that they couldn't wake him up. | |
| Oh, that's right. | |
| I forgot the toxicology report had oxycodone as well, right? | |
| It's just sort of you take the, you know, you take, you take the, the, the marquee drug, which is fentanyl, but oxycodone for most is pretty potent. | |
| Yeah. | |
| To come and pick her up because it couldn't keep Mr. Floyd awake. | |
| At 8.09 p.m., Officers Lane and King approached the vehicle, and Officer Lane approached the driver's side of the vehicle, and Officer King approached the passenger side. | |
| You missed it. | |
| So not only was it a counterfeit 20, I didn't, we didn't know this because I think some of this is new evidence. | |
| Not only was it a counterfeit 20, but the guy who gave them the pack of cigarettes for a counterfeit 20 knew it and asked them kindly to, hey, please give me back my cigarettes or pay with real money. | |
| George Floyd blew him off, went to his car. | |
| The shopkeeper from Cup Foods went back to him and said, please just give me back the cigarettes. | |
| Or pay me for the cigarettes. | |
| So George Floyd knew that it was counterfeit and he had two outs from the shopkeeper before the police were notified. | |
| So, Blue in Counterfeit 20, you really do have cameras in your bathroom. | |
| I'm sorry, I'll be over here. | |
| I didn't know that, though. | |
| I don't think he's a counterfeiter guy, though. | |
| No, I don't think he is, but it just shows complete disregard for members of the community, where it's like, please man, just give me back my cigarettes, or give me real money, I have to make a living. | |
| Two times. | |
| And that's why the guy got pissed. | |
| Well, the guy who gets his, I think he notified the police after giving him two times trying to not bring the cops into it. | |
| He responds to the scene to assist officers King and Lane and he helps in detaining the passengers. | |
| You will see officer Chang's body-worn camera and you will hear his interactions. | |
| Is Chang the Asian guy? | |
| No. | |
| That's a Mortal Kombat 3 character. | |
| Was it? | |
| I thought so. | |
| Johnny Chang. | |
| What you will learn is that when an officer responds to what is sometimes a mortal combat | |
| three character, was it? | |
| I thought so. | |
| Showed up often. | |
| Johnny Chang, greater and more serious event. | |
| You will see surveillance videos near squad three. | |
| I'm guessing. | |
| from a local business called the Dragon Walk that captured the actions and reactions of | |
| everyone present at that location. | |
| Dragon Walk. | |
| That's an Ethiopian restaurant? | |
| I'm guessing. | |
| Further concealment of controlled substances. | |
| During the course of the investigation, two search warrants were executed on the Mercedes | |
| The first on May 27th of 2020. | |
| The second, several months later, on December 9th of 2020. | |
| Now, see, that is important, folks, though. | |
| The defense said you will see and hear everything that these officers and Mr. Floyd said to each other. | |
| That's important. | |
| It's very different from the prosecution, who said, look at this clip, look at this clip. | |
| We're going to show you this clip. | |
| You're going to hear from this person who isn't officially with the county, but who trained them and who says that it could have maybe been this. | |
| Right now, this guy said, full and complete transparency. | |
| Now, that's not proof in and of itself, but I will say this. | |
| When you have two parties in a disagreement, and one is opting for complete and total transparency, and one is fighting against that, that is usually a red flag. | |
| When there is one person involved with this conflict, altercation, in this case, two lawyers. | |
| Yeah, if you're willing to show every word being said, I mean, it is definitely worth listening to. | |
| I don't know. | |
| away you should take note. | |
| The evidence will show that as officers King and Lane escorted Mr. Floyd to their squad | |
| car. | |
| Yeah, if you're willing to show every word being said, I mean it is definitely worth | |
| listening to. | |
| And he was encouraging Mr. Floyd to cooperate with the officers. | |
| I mean you have to. | |
| Speaking of car, you can't win. | |
| The evidence will show that Mr. Floyd and the officers began to struggle as they attempted | |
| to get him in the squad car. | |
| And you will learn that Officers Derek Chauvin and his partner Tu Tao arrived to assist Officers King and Lane at 8.16.48. | |
| That's racist, man. | |
| Upon their arrival, the first thing that Officer Chauvin sees is Officers King and Lane struggling with Mr. Floyd. | |
| You know what's super ironic? | |
| King's first name, Rodney. | |
| I was gonna say, it's like, all these cops, were they all named after the Mr. Rogers, like at the Mr. Rogers convention? | |
| It's like, first was King Tuesday to the scene, followed by Lady Lane. | |
| Prince Wednesday. | |
| Prince Wednesday! | |
| Wasn't it King Tuesday and Prince Wednesday? | |
| I think so. | |
| And then the Ron Paul Muppet looking Lady Lane? | |
| Oh, Lady Lane, yeah. | |
| Weighs 223 pounds. | |
| You will learn that because of this intersection at 38th and Chicago is considered a high crime area. | |
| King Friday. | |
| King Friday, yeah. | |
| It's called the Milestone Video System. | |
| Was it King Friday? | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's a camera that sits high atop a pole and can surveil the entire intersection. | |
| Tuesday wasn't really what mattered. | |
| His name was King. | |
| Either way, it fit worse. | |
| That's true. | |
| There's a reason Okinawans were rated worse sense of humor on the planet. | |
| That's something, isn't it? | |
| Boy, do they carry a grudge. | |
| They do. | |
| So much so that it catches the attention of the 9-1-1 dispatcher, Jenna Scurry. | |
| This was not an easy struggle. | |
| It makes me a little uneasy that his partner there is writing down notes like he's surprised. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, we're talking about that? | |
| Is that what I'm here for? | |
| I think that's Chauvin. | |
| I was about to say, I think that's Officer Chauvin. | |
| Oh, is it? | |
| Sorry, keep in mind I'm looking at a small screen. | |
| It looks like he's checking stuff off. | |
| Okay. | |
| He's just penning off how many stitches he's got in his anus so far. | |
| Guys, I need a four-letter word for screwed. | |
| Yeah, anybody? | |
| He's just playing hangman. | |
| What did you just think of that you wouldn't say? | |
| and officer lane was at the feet and you will see and hear them continue to | |
| What? | |
| struggle with mr. Floyd as he's what did you just think of that you wouldn't say | |
| what you just thought of something that you didn't want to say oh I said a few | |
| I thought of a few things I'll just say I thought of a word that would be funny that he was using to play hangman with. | |
| That's your own interpretation. | |
| Oh, start with a C, not that word. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| I just raised my pen, that sounded... No, that's not the joke. | |
| But that is also funny. | |
| Let's get back up. | |
| There's a movie with Matt Damon and Greg Kinnear where he's like, what's up? | |
| Oh, the twins? | |
| Yeah, it's supposed to be covered. | |
| Stuck on you. | |
| I love how you know the name of the movie but you didn't want to reference it because you're slightly ashamed. | |
| I made a poster of me and you, well, my friend Steve did, as the twins that I put up the other day. | |
| I'm not ashamed. | |
| Well, I can't see it because I sneak it on Twitter. | |
| Oh, I know. | |
| But it's, he's like, like something about like, what would a woman be agitated for his curse? | |
| And he's like, Oh, I was way off. | |
| That's what I thought with Hangman and him playing Scrabble. | |
| And then I made a joke that just... Well, could have gone the other way. | |
| It could have. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, you know what, either way, there'll be a write up. | |
| Well, yeah, we can look forward to what's that stupid magazine that takes everything out of context and humor out of life? | |
| We don't need to use their name. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | |
| It's Out Magazine. | |
| Is it Out Magazine? | |
| It's what we have stacks of in the bathroom? | |
| And this will ultimately become one of the decisions that you have to make. | |
| To answer these questions, the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, the evidence will show that the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension investigated the Minneapolis Police Department's training and policies. | |
| You will learn about things such as the authorized use of force. | |
| Proportionality of force, excited delirium, defensive tactics including prone handcuffing, neck restraints, maximal restraint technique, the swarm technique. | |
| You will learn about rapidly evolving situations and the Minneapolis Police Department's decision-making model. | |
| You will learn about crowd control, medical intervention, de-escalation, procedural justice, crisis intervention, and the human factors of force. | |
| Right now someone in the jury is going, ugh, pat me with a spoon. | |
| This is the worst. | |
| Ugh. | |
| Go ahead and start the PowerPoint. | |
| And they took away my sidekick. | |
| Hey, don't forget, I think we have an update from Thomas Finnegan. | |
| Oh, yeah, really quick. | |
| Oh, you know what? | |
| Is he there still? | |
| Yeah, I think he's still there. | |
| Okay, so hold on. | |
| Before we continue with this, because we don't know how much longer it'll be, I'm getting word, yeah, that Thomas Finnegan is still in the George Floyd autonomous zone in Minneapolis on the ground. | |
| Let's check in with Thomas Finnegan. | |
| Thomas, what's going on there in the Autonomous Zone? | |
| Thomas? | |
| Oh no. | |
| You're not gonna lie! I don't know, no. | |
| Oh! Oh! | |
| He'll be fine. | |
| Let's go back to the guy behind the... | |
| We can only hope. | |
| Let's go back to the guy behind the plexiglass. | |
| How hilarious would it be if the bailiff just ran up and cross-checked him? | |
| BOOM! | |
| Then the bailiff has to stand in there for two minutes? | |
| Lookin' all sad and pathetic? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Alright, since you guys both did it, I really have to pee. | |
| Go ahead! | |
| I'm coming out. | |
| Don't come out. | |
| I want the world to know. | |
| What? | |
| Hey Dave, I have a question for you. | |
| Yes sir? | |
| Who is the funny guy on Big Bang Theory? | |
| None. | |
| None of them. | |
| I just thought he looked a bit like Johnny Galecki. | |
| Who was, I think that's how you say it, who was, you might know him as the third Russ in the Vacation series. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But no, that is a terrible show. | |
| I don't understand, oh no, I do understand why it aired for so long. | |
| It's because people like crap. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And people are dumb. | |
| We do, and we are. | |
| I really hate that show. | |
| It's the worst. | |
| It is the worst. | |
| It should be on trial right now. | |
| We should be watching the trial of everybody involved. | |
| The trial of Chuck Lorre for creating the television that he has. | |
| Except my friend Billy's show. | |
| And they did what they refer to as a mode and go because of the crowd. | |
| They came, they picked up Mr. Rather than attempting to resuscitate him or treat him on the scene, | |
| they loaded him into the ambulance and they drove to a location several blocks away | |
| to begin their resuscitative efforts. And you will hear- Do you think he dyes the sole patch of his beard? | |
| I feel like he does, right? | |
| He's like, this is a little Wolfman Jackal. | |
| Pretty cool guy. | |
| His tie is like, made of a couch. | |
| Like I would have worn to my grandmother's funeral in the 90s. | |
| In fact, my grandmother did wear that to her funeral. | |
| That's so sad. | |
| made of a couch. Like I would have worn to my grandmother's funeral in the 90s. | |
| In fact my grandmother did wear that to her funeral. Yes, she did. That's so sad. My | |
| grandfather did around his neck. Well it wasn't his funeral, it was just how they found him. | |
| What? | |
| What's dark? | |
| Dark? | |
| Is that woman wearing sandals? | |
| Like, uh, Birkenstocks of sorts? | |
| Like, leopard print? | |
| She's got some thick ankles. | |
| Let's listen to this part. | |
| I'm going to share several interviews that Dr. Baker had with law enforcement. | |
| Guilty of taking angels. | |
| Where he discusses the cause and manner of death and what that actually means according | |
| to what he saw present in Mr. Floyd's body. | |
| This is important right here. | |
| And some of this evidence is extremely important. | |
| To the final determination of Mr. Floyd's cause of death. | |
| Medical findings include things such as the blood gas test that was taken at HCMC that revealed Mr. Floyd had an exceptionally high level of caffeine dioxide. | |
| I think there's something oh hey Steve you're gonna want to listen to this he's talking cause of death from the | |
| original Tell tale signs of asphyxiation there were no bruises to mr.. | |
| Floyd's neck No telltale signs of asphyxiation. | |
| Either on his skin or after peeling his skin back to the muscles beneath. | |
| There was no petechial hemorrhaging. | |
| There was no evidence that Mr. Floyd's airflow was restricted and he did not determine to be a positional or mechanical asphyxia death. | |
| At the time Mr. Floyd was in the hospital, Ephemeral blood draw was taken. | |
| That blood draw was analyzed by a lab. | |
| The results of Mr. Floyd's toxicology screen revealed the presence of fentanyl and methamphetamine for other drugs. | |
| And it will be important to know the difference between fentanyl and methamphetamine. | |
| I'm not a doctor. | |
| There was so much blood they were concerned. | |
| Turns out it was from my femur. | |
| Cocaine off the blood. | |
| Is that where your femoral artery goes through your leg? | |
| I don't know. I'm not a doctor. | |
| You're not? | |
| What's that PhD you showed me before the physical you gave me? | |
| It felt good for me too, though. | |
| magazine staff. It felt good for me too though. It's not a salt if you like it. | |
| So this yeah this is important because they said someone who trained Dr. Baker | |
| he's talking about the actual report. | |
| And this will ultimately be another significant battle in this trial. | |
| What was Mr. Floyd's actual cause of death? | |
| The evidence will show that Mr. Floyd died of a cardiac arrhythmia that occurred as a result of hypertension, his coronary disease, the ingestion of methamphetamine and fentanyl, and the adrenaline flowing through his body. | |
| All of which acted to further... Well, and they said he took several Percocet just right before that. | |
| At the conclusion of this evidence, you will be instructed as to the law, the elements of the offense, and the court will give you detailed instructions on what you must find to convict Mr. Chauvin of these charges. | |
| But when you review the actual evidence, and when you hear the law and apply reason and common sense, there will only be one just vote, and that is to find Mr. Chauvin not guilty. | |
| You know what's weird is that for many people in the country, that's the first time they're hearing any of that. | |
| Oh yeah, of course. | |
| What do you say? | |
| They're going to recess. | |
| He's giving himself an out. | |
| 11-15. | |
| I got a lot backed up. | |
| Do I have to make a big poop? | |
| They're going to recess. | |
| I want you to keep in mind that these breaks we try and keep as much as we can to time, | |
| but if bathroom needs and other needs are important, we can expand it a little bit. | |
| He's giving himself an hour. | |
| 11-15. | |
| I got a lot backed up. | |
| Do I have to make a big poop? | |
| Yes. | |
| Sometimes it takes a little while. | |
| I have to drop some kids off at the pool. | |
| Very thorough with my paperwork. | |
| Yeah, 15 minute recess. | |
| 15 minutes, then what are they going to do after this? | |
| There's opening statements, then what are they going to do? | |
| They're going to probably jump into it. | |
| Really? | |
| Yeah. | |
| How long do we have to do this show today? | |
| I don't think we should cover all of it because it's going to be a long trial. | |
| Right. | |
| It's going to be long. | |
| You guys let us know. | |
| Leave in the comments section if you want us to. | |
| No, no. | |
| Don't let us know. | |
| No, no. | |
| I'm just saying, not just for today, but do people want... because this is going to go on for a while. | |
| Shouldn't we be covering this every day? | |
| I think it's good to check in on this every day because a lot of people are going to be watching this. | |
| But I think it was incredibly important for him to lay it out the way he just did. | |
| He's like, guys, they had their report and they weren't satisfied with it. | |
| And don't think, oh, it's just people wanting this. | |
| Just remember what was going on. | |
| Protests were erupting all over the place in that city. | |
| They were threatening to burn things down. | |
| They were threatening to burn down City Hall, right, if they didn't come out with this. | |
| And so immediately they're like, ah crap, that report says it wasn't asphyxiation, it was probably some kind of an overdose, and now we've got to put something else out there. | |
| Otherwise this crowd is going to get crazy. | |
| Remember the political implications of what was going on and who stepped in. | |
| Well, for me, the point that really bothers me, and look, we'll talk more about Chauvin and George Floyd, and I think we all, look, this is sad. | |
| This is all very sad. | |
| However, the point that really sticks out to me is when the left right now go, we've | |
| got to fix these problems in America where now it's systemically racist everywhere. | |
| So the narrative is, of course, cops are racist. | |
| Disregard the fact that there are more black officers than there are percentage of the | |
| population, certainly minority officers when you include Latino and black officers because | |
| they want to serve. | |
| Let's disregard that. | |
| They go, we need to fix this right now and we need to help those in the black community. | |
| OK. | |
| This is doing the all of this together in totality is doing the exact opposite of that. | |
| That's what makes me so sad. | |
| Do you know what's harming the black community? | |
| It's not officers shooting unarmed black men, like we've said. | |
| It's 9 in the year 2019 versus 19 white guys. | |
| And they're over 18 times more likely, police officers, to be shot by black men than to shoot a black man. | |
| Let's be really, really clear. | |
| Black men in this community are 37 times more likely to commit violent crime, according to an Obama report, right? | |
| 37 times more likely to commit violent crime, okay? | |
| Why? | |
| Well, we just skimmed over why. | |
| We always think that in these areas, you know, people talk about how they're close-knit in urban communities and in black areas, and I think to a degree that's probably more true than white communities because there isn't necessarily a kinship with white people. | |
| You can be white Irish, you can be white Italian, you can be white Norwegian, German, you know, I'm a mutt, French, English, Irish, Scottish, German. | |
| But if we're talking about how closely knit those communities are, why do we think that black men commit crimes at 37 times the violent crimes on the national average? | |
| Well, we just saw two examples right there in real time, which are not nearly as severe as George Floyd is jamming a pistol into the gut of a lady while her toddler watches, but giving a counterfeit bill to someone in his community, a shopkeeper. | |
| I don't know if the shopkeeper is black, Asian, but lives in that community and was given | |
| two opportunities to do the right thing and didn't care to. | |
| That guy has a family to feed. | |
| That guy is actually supporting his community by running a business. | |
| And by the way, trying to help his community by knowing that someone who's likely high | |
| as a kite who gave him a counterfeit bill, which of course takes money out of his pocket, | |
| still not wanting to alert the authorities two times saying, hey, Mr. Floyd, this is | |
| not a real bill. | |
| Please. | |
| And he gave him two options. | |
| Either give me money for the cigarettes or please just give the cigarettes back. | |
| Please. | |
| George Floyd blew him off, went back to his car. | |
| He goes out to the car before he calls the cops. | |
| Please, man. | |
| Look. | |
| Think of it this way. | |
| I've got kids to feed, okay? | |
| Look, please, just, I can't. | |
| This is the fifth time this week. | |
| The guy's probably been held up. | |
| Please, just look. | |
| Give me the cigarettes back or pay me the money. | |
| George Floyd didn't give a shit. | |
| This happened twice before he then popped Percocet in addition to his fentanyl and his methamphetamine and lying to the cops. | |
| How many other crimes do you think he committed that day? | |
| That week? | |
| The issue right now, if we want to talk about improving the quality of life for those in the black community, is we need to talk about these behavioral patterns and the family unit. | |
| Because someone like that Does not deserve to die. | |
| But someone like that ONLY causes harm when they go through their life selfishly, unabashedly so. | |
| And that's not common. | |
| That shouldn't be common. | |
| That shouldn't be a part of your community. | |
| You want more people in your community like the shopkeeper, and you want more people in your community who join the police force than people like George Floyd. | |
| Rest assured, when I say this, this is NOT saying that George Floyd deserved to die, and certainly not that day. | |
| We're going to hear the evidence on that case. | |
| But George Floyd, the way he acted, the way we know that he's acted throughout his life, is far more of a problem for these kinds of communities than policing. | |
| George Floyd is a problem. | |
| George Floyd is a problem. | |
| Mugging a woman with her children. | |
| We have a rap sheet a mile long. | |
| Even just to the selfish day-to-day, having no empathy for a shopkeeper who has to feed his kids. | |
| Given two opportunities to not steal. | |
| I wasn't given that opportunity. | |
| I snuck into a movie. | |
| They kicked me out. | |
| And that was because I didn't want to pay for a Michael Moore film. | |
| So I paid for another one. | |
| I snuck into Michael Moore. | |
| I was kicked out immediately! | |
| It's a principle. | |
| That's fair. | |
| How many grace crimes does one get before you say, you know what? | |
| Okay. | |
| Maybe we have a problem here in this community that people feel so fine taking. | |
| We talk about Wall Street bankers and we talk about capitalists and corporatists and people taking advantage of the middle class and they don't care. | |
| And they show, well, you know what, okay, listen, and I understand that they're somewhat removed and it's not violence so these people don't get punished the way they should. | |
| Certainly banks, when we talk about the bailouts, I think that's criminal. | |
| But why are we not offended when a black guy does it to a shopkeeper who he knows on a day-to-day basis where he just steals cigarettes? | |
| And let's be real. | |
| Why did he not do it? | |
| Why do you think George Floyd blew him? | |
| Because he's bigger and stronger and probably intimidated the guy. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Just like Mike Brown. | |
| Do you guys remember that? | |
| Knocked over a liquor store the day he stole the gun from Officer Wilson and hit him in the head with it. | |
| You seeing a pattern? | |
| You think Officer Wilson, who specifically asked to be in Ferguson so that he could have more interactions and help those underprivileged? | |
| There was not a racist bone in Darren Wilson's body. | |
| You think that guy's the problem? | |
| Or do you think the guy, Mike Brown, who that day committed a crime against other members of his community before violently assaulting an officer, is more indicative of the problem in this community? | |
| Or do you think it's the cop? | |
| Do you think that George Floyd with a rap sheet a mile long and that day committed a crime taking money out of someone else's pocket is a problem? | |
| Or do you think it's just when the cops show up? | |
| We need to be able to talk about these things. | |
| If you're going to make it all about race, CNN, MSNBC, and racist cops, if we want to have dialogues to improve everyone's community, guess what? | |
| It's not about the cops, and it's not about melanin. | |
| What are you doing there? | |
| I think the extreme division is certainly not the way to handle it. | |
| I don't think the division is a way to... But the problem is, there's no way around it now, because immediately before the body was cold, they were talking about... Well, it's because that's why Al Sharpton exists. | |
| I mean, that's why he's there. | |
| He's a racial ambulance chaser. | |
| It's why he showed up, and I'll just say it on this show. | |
| He's also a guy who hates Jewish people and has been very vocal about that, and that's perfectly acceptable. | |
| Well, yeah. | |
| But I just don't think it's about dividing everything in half, and that's the problem | |
| right now, is we want to just completely look at it as these black and white issues, and | |
| there's some serious issues. | |
| But we keep saying we want to have a conversation, we want to solve the problem. | |
| You can't solve this problem. | |
| You can't change people's opinions. | |
| You can't make everybody all think the same. | |
| It's an isolated incident that should be judged on an isolated incident. | |
| But if you're going to talk about the pervasive problem, the systemic problem, it's a problem with crime and disregard for members in their community. | |
| Well, I think you also would have to add the underprivileged community, though. | |
| I mean, if you live in a poorer area, aren't you more likely to commit a crime? | |
| Yeah, but here's the truth. | |
| Poor white people don't commit crimes against poor black people, the way that poor black people do against poor white people. | |
| And poor white people don't commit crimes against other poor white people in the same rights. | |
| Well, if you're talking about drugs, I think they commit plenty of crimes, though. | |
| Well, they do drugs, but as far as robberies, as far as violent crime, as far as homicide, look, a black person in this country is far more likely to- Well, it's true. | |
| That's true. | |
| That being said, you'd think there'd be more because you just need to punch through the wall and pull out whatever you grab. | |
| But statistically, a black person in America is most likely to be killed by a black person and a white person. | |
| Is likely to be killed by a black person. | |
| And this comes from, I think, right now, again, like we said, this ties back to the voting laws. | |
| Black people can't get ID. | |
| Well, hold on a second. | |
| Why don't they? | |
| It's free. | |
| Well, they don't know how to get there. | |
| Well, we can have them do it online. | |
| Black people don't know how to get online. | |
| Black people don't know that bills are counterfeit. | |
| This is what the left does when you have the racism, the prejudice of low expectations. | |
| Black people don't know how to use birth control. | |
| They need Planned Parenthood. | |
| It's all predicated on this idea that people in those communities, people in these communities, meaning urban black communities, need the white liberal savior and they need someone to fish for them every day that they somehow can't be taught to fish. | |
| This is the issue that we keep running into. | |
| Black people can't go to the DMV, black people can't get online to vote, black people can't get into schools unless we give them affirmative action, black people need more money, and by the way black people can't get ahead if white, this is according to Black Lives Matter, if white families stay together and there's a nuclear family so we have to do away with that too. | |
| This is where we've come, this is not at all the kind of racial justice that Martin Luther King Jr. | |
| was talking about. | |
| That we were talking about in the 80s, 90s, early 2000s? | |
| It's not even the kind of justice that Barack Obama was talking about, by the way. | |
| To see how drastically times have changed, Barack Obama went into office opposing gay marriage and now believes that men should be playing in women's sports. | |
| Donald Trump is the only president who was for gay marriage when he became president and for gay marriage when he left the presidency. | |
| That's how rapidly these things change. | |
| And right now there is this pervasive racism from the left, and I truly mean this, It really does break my heart if a black person in the country today, someone watching, if you believe for a second what the left has told you that you can't get ID and that you're too dumb to use the internet. | |
| That to me, that someone will as veil as they want it to be and they label it under the guise of privilege and it is so racist to me. | |
| And it robs people, by the way, when black people in this country are successful and have worked hard, it robs them of the satisfaction of knowing that they got ahead on their merits. | |
| And that's what bothers me. | |
| But we're not being honest about the problem. | |
| Let's be honest about the problem if we are not acknowledging that people like George Floyd who go their entire life physically harming people, financially harming people, and emotionally harming people without repercussion. | |
| Look, I'm sorry, if I had robbed someone at gunpoint with a toddler there, I think they should lock me away. | |
| And if several times that day I had stolen, whether I knew or not, but was given the opportunity to make it right, that day from a local shopkeeper from the drugstore down the street, I would expect for people to think that I'm a piece of shit. | |
| And the narrative was that George Floyd was turning over a new leaf. | |
| Yeah, that's always the narrative, though. | |
| I mean, that's if you watch Fruitvale Station or any movie that covers it. | |
| I mean, that's the reality is it's always I was trying to do good. | |
| I mean, that's that's simply not the case. | |
| But same with Mike Brown. | |
| He was trying to do good that day. | |
| He just shoved an old guy at a liquor store. | |
| Yeah, it's the narrative that they usually play out. | |
| Again, none of this means that there wasn't a tragedy that took place. | |
| None of this means... It doesn't take away that it's not a problem. | |
| Right. | |
| And we're focusing on something that statistically is not a problem in comparison to what statistically is a verifiable, repeatable problem. | |
| You can see it just in this instance with George Floyd. | |
| Who presents a greater risk to the streets of Minneapolis? | |
| The police force or George Floyd? | |
| George Floyd. | |
| Here's what bothers me, too, is right now I'm looking at CNN and they're airing the commercials with the George Floyd killing still printed to the left of it. | |
| With Flo from Progressive. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And someone gets shoved in on her back. | |
| I know that's true. | |
| I think we all can agree. | |
| I'd like to see some urine flow from her. | |
| Why are you dressed this way? | |
| I have no idea. | |
| They bring things in, I do what I'm told. | |
| Officer? | |
| You're supposed to lean on his neck. | |
| Oh, you're going to lean on my knee? | |
| Oh, don't do that. | |
| At some point, I will win. | |
| Thanks, George. | |
| It was your idea. | |
| Yeah, I didn't know we were actually going to do it. | |
| Do we want to do it in a video for next time or do we want to do it live today? | |
| No, no, we can show—so look, we can show, but I'm probably going to go on your neck first and then show you how to— No, don't do mine! | |
| Well, yeah! | |
| He's the cop. | |
| I'm the cop! | |
| Well, I know you're the cop, but you don't know how to— You don't know how to— I turn in the tables. | |
| He's the cop. | |
| Do you want to use Token Owen, because he's— No, no, no. | |
| You know what? | |
| Then after this—okay, since we have a break right now, I'm not going to lean on your neck, but I'll show you a basic control position that would be in wrestling, and you'll see how uncomfortable it is. | |
| You can show me on the cop there. | |
| I'll show you on the cop. | |
| We have a good police chat about that too. | |
| Clayton B was wondering, my question is on the training they have on this knee hold, how long do they hold it after control has been established? | |
| That's the only issue I see. | |
| Once he passed out, why would you stay on the guy? | |
| So you can probably give like a... | |
| Yeah, well first off, it's not a position with control. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| It's not a position with control at all. | |
| I don't know why they teach it to people. | |
| I think maybe they teach it because if you have one knee on the neck and then one knee on their torso, it controls them better with two officers. | |
| But even then, there are still more effective ways to do it. | |
| Believe me when I say this, and sometimes police officers get mad and they get defensive, you cannot underestimate the ineptitude of police department training when it comes to physical restraints. | |
| It's less than rudimentary. | |
| And I don't think that one man should be hung from the gallows for a mistake that has been made repeatedly. | |
| Repeatedly. | |
| And I know people love to buy these myths. | |
| Look, this is something where... | |
| And I think now maybe it's more acceptable because we understand that the military, for example, is now a petri dish for social justice warrior ideology, but people used to think that if I said, hey, you know what, there are some myths that people attribute to special forces that aren't true, people would be like, oh yeah, no, they can kill you with their bare hands. | |
| No, look, we would have Navy SEALs, we would have Marines, we would have Special Forces, | |
| we would have Army Rangers, we would have... take it from any branch that come into the | |
| school, which was an MMA school and I just did Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and some basic boxing, | |
| they would get rolled up by blue belts. | |
| Why? | |
| Because they're not trained fighters, they're trained with firearms. | |
| They're supposed to be trained in de-escalation. | |
| They're trained where if they have five people, they can use a taser. | |
| But that being said, because they get people through this training pretty quickly, they have to go to the tools in their belt, which are weapons. | |
| And that by itself escalates the situation. | |
| Most police officers out there today, I would say the vast majority, are not physically capable of restraining someone to the degree of a ninth grade high school wrestler. | |
| Yeah, that's probably pretty accurate. | |
| And small female officers are capable of restraining George Floyd? | |
| Never. | |
| Never. | |
| If it was a small female officer who responded to George Floyd, she probably wouldn't be able to cuff him. | |
| Her only option is to tase or shoot. | |
| Say it on air. | |
| 185. | |
| Say it on air. | |
| I would have said 315. | |
| I'm not good at this. | |
| A very good comparison would be having him kneel on your neck instead of me. | |
| I'm bigger than George Floyd. | |
| So it would be like having Tocanawa kneel on your neck. | |
| All right, give me the mustache. | |
| That's the weight. | |
| And he looks better in this, that's really... Okay, all right, give Tokino on the mustache. | |
| I would look like the female cop. | |
| If you want to demonstrate that. | |
| Like the female cop who shows up in the sitcom with the belt too high, like, all right, what's going on here? | |
| Hey! | |
| It's Melissa McCarthy. | |
| Yeah, it's Melissa McCarthy. | |
| You're on my feet. | |
| This cap's completely inept. | |
| Why would you hire her? | |
| And all of this, too, is being abused. | |
| Speaking of Al Sharpton, oh my god, they're doing the chain link thing. | |
| Please, someone turn this up. | |
| It's a ridiculous tie he's got on. | |
| He's really lost weight. | |
| He's an ascot. | |
| He's the kind of guy you should put some weight back on. | |
| Yeah, he is. | |
| It's like, ow, ow, ow. | |
| There's a level between, you know, you and Little Nicky, you being pretty, you know, portly, and Tom Hanks Philadelphia. | |
| Split the difference. | |
| Emaciated and obese. | |
| There is a line in between. | |
| Now he looks like the little bug that went kachoo. | |
| You just need a curvy Al Sharpton. | |
| Al Sharpton is one of my least favorite people on the planet. | |
| I think it's anybody who's you or Jewish. | |
| Again, I say because he called them roaches. | |
| That's true. | |
| Well, Farrakhan. | |
| They don't care about the anti-Semitic attacks coming from people like Farrakhan. | |
| They want to claim that it's from the people in the Republican Party who support a strong alliance with Israel. | |
| Just like with Asians. | |
| They don't want to acknowledge the fact that Asians have been getting screwed in admittance in colleges like we've been talking about just at Stanford and Brown alone. | |
| We've done multiple stories on this. | |
| They don't want to talk about that. | |
| They want you to think that now it's the people who believe in a meritocracy who have been committing hate crimes against Asians. | |
| This is the divide and conquer. | |
| And I just, I will say this, I try and be a happy warrior as much as I can, but we don't have much longer going on with this right now. | |
| We don't have much longer going on with, it's not just racial division. | |
| Because I will allow for the fact that sometimes solutions will be uncomfortable for people of any race, gender, creed. | |
| Sometimes everyone has to look at themselves and there's going to be division on solutions to the problem. | |
| I understand that. | |
| The issue is that we're starting out dishonestly. | |
| And that is happening all the time right now. | |
| That's why I'm so concerned. | |
| Look, do I care that I've been banned, that I've been suspended from Twitter? | |
| Not so much. | |
| What worries me is that I was suspended for simply pointing out that Twitter doesn't list reasons for suspension. | |
| Does it worry, do I lose any money by the fact that our one-year anniversary, 15 days to flatten the curve, Was removed from YouTube. | |
| Nope. | |
| I don't believe it was monetized anyway. | |
| So it doesn't change my pocketbook one dime. | |
| But it scares me. | |
| It scares me that YouTube says, hey, this show, using CDC guidelines, using the World Health Organization, using medical—everything was coming from PUP. | |
| You can go to LotOfCredit.com and see the sources listed for that show. | |
| Them saying, but we don't want this here because the solution needs to start from whatever Dr. Fauci says. | |
| Lockdowns. | |
| That's what worries me. | |
| We don't have that long going down this trail of starting off from a dishonest premise. | |
| Have they gone back now? | |
| They're calling witnesses. | |
| Okay, who is this witness right here? | |
| And then you can lean on me afterwards there. | |
| Can you tell the jurors what your occupation is? | |
| I am a Minneapolis 9-1-1 dispatcher. | |
| And so who is your employer? | |
| City of Minneapolis. | |
| And how long have you been doing that? | |
| Almost seven years. | |
| Can you tell the jurors what kind of training goes into being a dispatcher? | |
| We hang up on anyone named Karen. | |
| We go through close to two years of training starting with call taking where citizens are calling 911 with their emergencies. | |
| Also speaking to non-emergencies and how we can direct those. | |
| We then work with police and fire on sending them their calls and prioritizing those. | |
| Also, you've put me on hold for nine minutes playing Earth, Wind, and Fire the last time I called in. | |
| That was rude. | |
| I said I was being stabbed. | |
| There's a rapist in my house. | |
| Please hold. | |
| Couldn't help but dance. | |
| This is gonna hurt. | |
| The Edit Bay also found some footage of George Floyd from May 2019 in a very similar police stop that they're saying might be used by the defense. | |
| Oh, do we have it? | |
| Alright, let me watch. | |
| This is footage of George Floyd from May 2019. | |
| I'm seeing this for the first time. | |
| Because who was the other guy who I found that other pullover that no one had seen? | |
| Rayshard Brooks. | |
| Remember Rayshard Brooks? | |
| The other pullover where he was by the train tracks? | |
| And I don't think anyone else still showed that. | |
| But this is now George Floyd. | |
| And we've confirmed that this is him for sure. | |
| George Floyd, 2019. | |
| Watching it for the first time with you. | |
| I'm not going to shoot you. | |
| Put your hands on the dash! | |
| Put your hands on the dash. | |
| Last time I'm going to tell you that. | |
| It's simple. | |
| He keeps moving his hands around. | |
| He won't listen to what I have to say. | |
| Put your hands on top of your head. | |
| Put them on your head. | |
| Open your mouth. | |
| Spit out what you got. | |
| Yeah, he had pills in this one too. | |
| Hands are not on top of his head. | |
| Okay, now slowly come on out. | |
| Okay, relax. | |
| You're not going to get beat up or nothing. | |
| You just follow what we're asking you to do. | |
| Okay, relax then. | |
| You're not going to get beat up or nothing. | |
| You just follow what we're asking you to do. | |
| I apologize as well, man. | |
| I apologize, man. I apologize. | |
| So it's kind of his go-to, is don't shoot me, don't shoot me, and okay, okay, okay, but not do what they ask. | |
| Erratic behavior, and yeah. | |
| Now, look, people go, oh, he was just putting a pill in his mouth. | |
| Sure! | |
| He could have been reaching for a gun. | |
| He was obviously trying to put a pill in his mouth so there wasn't the evidence. | |
| That's most likely what was happening. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But if someone says, put your hands in the dash, and you don't, they can't see where your hands are. | |
| Yeah. | |
| If you're in a high-crime neighborhood, and your police officer that works there knows that it's And it's a guy clearly with a history, if they run his plates, with no problem using firearms against his fellow citizens. | |
| He has. | |
| How old was George Floyd? | |
| 46? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I know he was in his 40s. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, when he died, he was 46. | |
| So that was in that was 2019. | |
| So probably in 40, 44. | |
| No, when he died, he was 46. | |
| But that pullover, I'm saying he would have been 40. | |
| in 40... 44? No, when he died he was 46. But that pullover, I'm saying he would have been | |
| 40. Oh, I gotcha. | |
| to give them who am I correcting radio and listen to the firefighters across | |
| the room you will have our channel 7 that is closely located to our dispatch | |
| group which is approximately four people this is I will say this be a lawyer here | |
| on the left he has a mouth like when you're looking up at a hammerhead shark | |
| I mean there's a chance though that he was tuned up by cops a few times which | |
| could lead him to having this reaction later in life. | |
| Oh, of course. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Sure. | |
| Sure. | |
| Again, that's not saying the cop's responsible. | |
| No, I'm sure he can be, but... He could help explain his behavior, yes. | |
| But more likely, he's a criminal who doesn't want to go to jail. | |
| Well, I think that's any drug addict, really. | |
| I mean, and are they criminals? | |
| Are they sick? | |
| I mean, usually hand in hand. | |
| Well, hold on, let's also be really clear, there's a difference between being a drug addict and being a serial violent offender, which George Floyd... Yes, there is, absolutely. | |
| I agree. | |
| Which, hey, let me ask you just one quick question. | |
| I wasn't trying to say... No, no, no, I know you weren't, I know you weren't, and I think it's good that you're here asking these questions because I think this is, listen, this is an emotionally charged issue, and people need to understand... He's like Jesse Venture, I'm just asking. | |
| But what are you suggesting, Jesse? | |
| I don't know, was George W. Bush outside Tower 7 with an Acme plunger before it went down? | |
| I'm just asking the facts. | |
| I saw Dan Quayle put dynamite into Tower One. | |
| You would know that, too, if you weren't so busy asking about which Kardashian's ass is most fat, because you're not asking about the facts. | |
| It's Kim. | |
| Do you think Bob Kardashian's just looking up from hell like they're all getting banged? | |
| Those are my girls. | |
| Here's my question, too. | |
| This is something I was just wondering the other day. | |
| And I agree that the war on drugs is largely a failure. | |
| But what I have always said is, look, if you just legalize all drugs, which sometimes is the solution, don't you really think that the drug cartels are going to straighten up and fly away? | |
| I believe it was a city in Washington or Oregon. | |
| I believe it was a city in Washington or decriminalized. | |
| Maybe not legalized, sorry. | |
| they go well the war on drugs you see many people on the left say that we need | |
| to legalize all drugs was it Portland who just did it Portland or Seattle or | |
| Oregon there was some place that just legalized all drugs. | |
| Wasn't it Washington? | |
| Denver I think right? No it wasn't. Was it Colorado? No it was somewhere in the... I believe it was a city in | |
| Washington or Oregon. I believe it was a city in Washington or decriminalized maybe not legalized. | |
| Yeah but everything was decriminalized. Including like black tar heroin. | |
| Yes. | |
| Which, I'm not gonna lie, I don't really know the difference between... I don't know the difference between black tar heroin and heroin regular. | |
| They're both... | |
| Spid... | |
| That Dave's like, well actually... | |
| I've only done one thing. | |
| But here's my question. | |
| People who are against the drug war, they go, it's failed because, look, you just put money in the hands of drug cartels. | |
| Then they also want to ban semi-automatic firearms. | |
| Do you have any idea how much money there will be to be made in gun running? | |
| Looks like it was the entire state of Oregon, too, by the way. | |
| Oh, shocking. | |
| I was right. | |
| Well, of course, they're just going to go to another illegal activity. | |
| Well, I know, but it's just ironic to me when people go, well, we need to legalize all drugs because the drug war and you're putting the money in the hands. | |
| Look, there are three ways that drug cartels, that these illegal criminal operations where they make money, okay? | |
| Drugs, guns, prostitution. | |
| Human trafficking, really. | |
| Yeah, human trafficking. | |
| So if you legalize all drugs, they're just going to traffic more people, and then if you make guns illegal, well, you've actually just added a profit margin. | |
| Well, you've also, now you have free range to take the drugs that break those prostitutes, and yeah, I shouldn't be grinning, but you know. | |
| No, I know what you're saying. | |
| It's a valid point. | |
| You shouldn't have a smile on your face, Dave. | |
| That's because you spent a lot of the time in the bathroom. | |
| Hey Dave, so I do have a question for you. | |
| Chuck Berry room. | |
| I think you have a good perspective on this, but knowing what you know now. | |
| About dope? | |
| No, about this trial, right? | |
| Because I think a lot of people, they just saw the hype for this, right? | |
| They just saw like the media hype and hysteria over what was going on. | |
| But knowing what you know now, having seen the entire video, having some context to it, do you think it's now okay to go down and burn the Walgreens down? | |
| Or maybe that was an overreach? | |
| Oh, I didn't think that was okay before. | |
| I know you didn't. | |
| I'm being sarcastic on that. | |
| But like, this was the basis for the riots during, by the way, something that we were all supposed to be so afraid of that we couldn't go outside, COVID. | |
| We had a spike right after the riots, but obviously it wasn't because of COVID. | |
| And we had property damage around the country, people's lives ruined, people's lives destroyed, killed. | |
| All because of this! | |
| This is what started it! | |
| This was a breath of fresh air to people that were angry and were locked up. | |
| I mean, this is all a result of one thing leading to another. | |
| COVID was something that was used, in my personal opinion, simply to get Trump out of office and demonize him, which then led to this, which further demonized him, saying it was his America. | |
| And I wasn't even this diehard fan of Trump, but if anybody fails to see that, this is all a result of cause and effect. | |
| I mean, that's the reality, is we wanted to play this game of white supremacy. | |
| And I'm not saying that that doesn't exist to some degree in the world, or hasn't ever. | |
| But the idea that everything should be riding on this, and the fact that our country and our future is riding on this, and more people's businesses. | |
| That's the part that I don't understand, either. | |
| The white rioters going into black neighborhoods and burning down their community. | |
| It makes no sense to me. | |
| Antifa. | |
| They fight fascism. | |
| They fight old women until their big sons walk up and then they run. | |
| Their model of cocktailing their truth. | |
| Yeah, that's true. | |
| And I also like the word my truth because it means it's a lie. | |
| Such a cute way of putting that. | |
| But I do think it's disturbing what's ended up happening, because you needed an excuse. | |
| If you lock people up, take away their jobs. | |
| I mean, look at George Floyd even, for example. | |
| He had no money, he had a counterfeit bill, whether he knew it or not, which he got because of a collapsed economy and losing his job. | |
| The guy was probably pissed off, went to get a pack of cigarettes, wasn't going to give him back. | |
| That's what they said. | |
| That's what they said. | |
| So going off every bit of evidence we saw, he had just lost a job. | |
| So he lost a job because, if he was a nightclub bouncer, he did. | |
| I thought that he hadn't worked at that club in a while. | |
| Well, at least that's the excuse was given that he lost his job. | |
| He did lose his job. | |
| So maybe he didn't want to give the cigarettes back. | |
| He was like, well, fuck you, I have nothing, I'm pissed off. | |
| You know, I'm not saying that gives an excuse, but when you've been locked up and detained, and you've been in prison, then you're out, and you've been locked up and detained again by the government for reasons you don't understand, and you're a drug addict, it's a powder keg. | |
| And it proved it, because the whole country burned. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So this sucks. | |
| But I think it's important to note that everyone was locked up. | |
| I agree. | |
| Everyone. | |
| And only one half burned the country. | |
| That's right. | |
| We need to be clear about that. | |
| That's where people say, well, it's left and right. | |
| No, no. | |
| You have one example long after the country burned to the tune of $2 billion with 200 people out of several hundred thousand at the Capitol. | |
| But one side of this country burned it down and one party encouraged it. | |
| Kamala Harris, Vice President. | |
| President. | |
| Saying, well they shouldn't stop. | |
| Get used to it. | |
| This is the new normal and they shouldn't stop rioting. | |
| I don't know how Donald Trump is guilty of inciting violence and Kamala Harris isn't. | |
| I don't know how all the staffers who smoked weed have been fired and Kamala Harris is still VP! | |
| So I'm still figuring out some of this! | |
| Not fair! | |
| Well, it's great, though, because we have higher gas prices. | |
| They now want to charge you per mileage that you're driving. | |
| They're firing people for weed, so you guys voted in the right team. | |
| Good job. | |
| Enjoy being poor again. | |
| How's that vote working out for you? | |
| And enjoy the international community going, oh, Biden's in? | |
| Okay, we can do whatever we want. | |
| Yeah, we can do whatever we want. | |
| You know, like they are now, where they're like, we're not even going to talk to him. | |
| We might bomb you. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Biden, I haven't made up my mind yet. | |
| Yeah, do the Roman candle. | |
| That one. | |
| No, it's infuriating because we have all these cameras and eyes on things in the public and it hasn't done us a service. | |
| No, it hasn't done us a service because people like Al Sharpton rushed to the scene to say it was systemic racism. | |
| Well, here's the thing. | |
| It used to be Al Sharpton. | |
| He was a joke. | |
| But guess what? | |
| He's no different from Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris right now. | |
| Al Sharpton is less radical than everyone in the DNC. | |
| Think about that for a second right now. | |
| People in office right now are tarring and feathering. | |
| Everybody, everybody who are police officers, they're saying defund the police. | |
| They're saying we have systemic discrimination. | |
| We know statistically, verifiably, it's not true. | |
| The issue here is, just like with COVID, starting off with a lie. | |
| It started off with 2.0. | |
| 2.4 million dead. | |
| And silencing anyone who said... and they're still silencing! | |
| Because we're nowhere near that number, by the way, and YouTube removed our entire episode on that. | |
| So it started with the lie, we're going to have 2.4 million dead unless we do 15 days to flatten the curve. | |
| That was a lie. | |
| And now, the lie, we need to defund the police because they're shooting black men in record numbers. | |
| That's a lie! | |
| That is a lie. | |
| What is not a lie is that George Floyd, the way he lived his life, does not mean he deserved to die, is far more indicative of the statistical problem that the black community has to deal with on a daily basis. | |
| 37 times the violent crime rate. | |
| That doesn't even include counterfeit bill and having no empathy for the guy who needs to feed his kids at the, at the, what is it? | |
| Top food supply? | |
| CNN used to say, Jake Tapper said the big lie was when Donald Trump said the election was stolen. | |
| And that is what is responsible for the January 6th riots on the Capitol. | |
| The insurrection. | |
| The big lie. | |
| This is hearkening back to Germany in a very bad period of time. | |
| He pulled that comment out. | |
| The big lie has been telling this country for the last year that if you're black, that police are going to shoot you randomly. | |
| And that led to violence. | |
| That led to people's lives being lost. | |
| Why is there no accountability for them? | |
| Why is there no accountability for those guys who are saying, hey, if you go out and lie in public, Donald Trump, and you tell people this election was stolen, and they go and take over the Capitol, it's your fault. | |
| Jake Tapper, you said that this country was systemically racist. | |
| People went out, they rioted, people's lives were lost, is that not your fault? | |
| Also, why the fuck does Vermont not have a $15 minimum wage, Bernie? | |
| That's true. | |
| Come on. | |
| I was just thinking about this the other day. | |
| I'm sorry, but I was sitting there like, what is it? | |
| Can someone look it up? | |
| I think in Vermont it's like $11.50. | |
| I remember I read it and I thought, that must be a misprint. | |
| Cheaper housings, they don't have to pay as much. | |
| You gotta work 10 hours to go see fish. | |
| I'm just kidding. | |
| No, you are right, though. | |
| It's like, oh, you first. | |
| The insurrection. | |
| So stupid. | |
| The guy in the woolly mammoth. | |
| The insurrection. | |
| Was it 1078? | |
| Are we sure? | |
| 1078 and then it moved to 1175. | |
| The insert... was it 1078? Are we sure? | |
| 1175. | |
| 1078 and then it moved to 1175. | |
| 1175. Commonly referred to as Bernie's tip on a $400 tab. | |
| The soup was cold. | |
| There was glass in my soup, sir. | |
| I saw you take the broken glass out of your suit pocket and sprinkle it in there. | |
| I'm old! | |
| What? | |
| It's still in there! | |
| I was confused! | |
| Why didn't you eat some of it before putting in the glass? | |
| I don't know anymore. | |
| I wasn't committed to the role. | |
| At this point, it's really more for the thrill. | |
| I want you to have an equal amount of glass in your soup as I have in my soup. | |
| Take some glass from you, put it in mine. | |
| By the way, did you know that if I throw a baseball out the window, the glass will only go out the window? | |
| If you throw it in, that's how they catch criminals. | |
| Have you been reading more Sherlock Holmes picture-on-the-pad books? | |
| They're intriguing! | |
| They are? | |
| I use it as a palate cleanse from Marx and Lenin. | |
| Marty, we've got to go back to 1985. | |
| Oh my gosh. | |
| I am just, honestly, the fact that this is, that right now people are tuning in You know what? | |
| This is the inverse of what happened with Clarence Thomas, and that's what turned Andrew Breitbart into a conservative. | |
| There were people who tuned in thinking, this guy's a monster, and really what equated to, I think some people referred to it as a modern-day lynching, and you should have seen Joe Biden when he was sitting there talking. | |
| And then people realized, this is character assassination. | |
| That was sort of the first time it happened. | |
| They tried to claim that he was a regular at a porno shop, which didn't actually, it couldn't have even been, but it shouldn't even matter! | |
| The fact that Clarence Thomas made a joke about a pubic hair on a Diet Coke can Shouldn't matter if he had gone to a seedy video rental store. | |
| Right? | |
| But this is what happened back then. | |
| We're going to make sure we have a trial and it's going to be racially based. | |
| That's what happened on the flip side. | |
| Same thing with OJ. | |
| It's just not true. | |
| And it also isn't something that most black Americans feel. | |
| They may feel that sometimes there's racial profiling because of this almost race war that the media is trying to incite at this point, but most black Americans, statistically, we can bring that up, want at least as much of a police presence as there is now, or more. | |
| They don't want to defund the police. | |
| They don't. | |
| Different from the Van Jones, the talking heads on CNN, they don't want that. | |
| They don't want bad police in the street, and neither do I. | |
| Neither does anybody. | |
| Well, and I was very just anti-cop in general at one point in my life, and I'm not, obviously, anymore. | |
| But I worked at a luggage store in downtown Detroit, which we had pretty much an all-black clientele, and I do remember having conversations with older black people, where they were just like, oh yeah, well, you don't want them now, but if you're in trouble, all of a sudden you're going to want them. | |
| And I mean, they felt the same way in their community. | |
| It's the same as, there was an old woman who used to wash dishes at this War Memorial, is what it was called, that I worked at, and you drive her home. | |
| And you get to her street, and her street was burnt out, but her house was immaculate. | |
| Yeah, you get that. | |
| Was she, like, Polish or something? | |
| No, she was a black woman, and she would get out every night, and she would pick up the trash that was left on her lawn just while she was at work. | |
| She couldn't afford to get out of that neighborhood. | |
| There are people that do definitely care about that and do want more of a police force. | |
| You find that in Detroit, and a lot of times you'll find, like, some old Polish guys who can't afford to get out, you know, they're on retirement. | |
| Oh, in Hamtramck for sure. | |
| Well, even in Detroit, downtown Detroit. | |
| Yeah, you do, yeah, yeah. | |
| Gran Torino, but they replaced black people with Hmong, and we were all supposed to believe there was any in Detroit. | |
| No, but you see this in Detroit, too, where you will find Burn Down Building, Crack House, or Meth Den, I don't really know. | |
| Or just squatter, you know, destroy. | |
| Nothing. | |
| And then you will see a yard that is immaculate. | |
| Immaculate. | |
| That looks like, you know, something out of a World War II movie, where like, and once we came home the victors, look at the Allies! | |
| And they go into the white picket fence. | |
| But you will see it next to what looks like a war zone. | |
| And that's just because, and it's just a perfect example of Oh, even in the worst scenario, you can respect your stuff. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, and they have the autoguns from Congo set up around, so. | |
| That's true. | |
| That's true. | |
| Makes it much easier to deal with. | |
| Lot of booby traps. | |
| Booby traps. | |
| Back there. | |
| Which is also a strip club on 8 Mile. | |
| And white gorillas with lasers. | |
| Yes. | |
| Everybody deserves a hot meal. | |
| Yes. | |
| Well, I'm complaining. | |
| Part of it is pride of ownership. | |
| Like I said, she was a dishwasher. | |
| There's something about when you work for something and it's not handed to you, and I think that goes for anything. | |
| Free comedy club tickets, a car that might be given to you, anything. | |
| If you don't have to work for something, you just, for some reason, a lot of human nature is just to not take care of it. | |
| When you've worked hard through your entire life to afford this house, wherever it's at, if it's something you love, you see people take care of that because they put value in their work and their If you buy a house in Detroit right now, look, it's a punchline, but you worked hard for the $6 to procure it. | |
| That's true. | |
| Exactly. | |
| You waited in line at an auction of two people that had $4. | |
| Yes. | |
| You gave up a latte for that house. | |
| You traded that Ponderosa coupon. | |
| You traded up, sir. | |
| Good job. | |
| Is Ponderosa still around? | |
| I don't think so. | |
| Is the owner's name Joe Ponderosa? | |
| Joe Ponderosa. | |
| All right, sorry, let's go. | |
| I think we're missing the tech. | |
| I apologize. | |
| I just, this was boring. | |
| It's the dispatch lady. | |
| I mean, not that she's not important, but what is she going to say? | |
| Yes, I dispatched the police. | |
| No, they're saying the guy's line of questioning seems completely aimless so far. | |
| Just asking about precinct names and dispatch codes. | |
| That's what I feel like we're missing. | |
| She has a lanyard. | |
| Yeah, well, sorry. | |
| And she has a stick behind her there. | |
| Why does she have a stick, like a pointer stick, a metal stick? | |
| It's a six feet distance stick. | |
| Is that what it is? | |
| Would you be shocked? | |
| It sounds like now they're getting they're getting to the fluid dispatch now. | |
| All right, let's go. | |
| Let's keep track of what it does. | |
| How hilarious would it be if she just sneezed and it just... Do y'all have a squeegee? | |
| And it went down like GACK. | |
| Or they cut to the other side and the guy's making sandwiches. | |
| just multiple screens that you have. | |
| Yes, they everything looks different. | |
| It would take a lot of explaining. | |
| But yes, we see all isn't that. | |
| Isn't that why you're a witness? | |
| Well, if we have to go over this, it's going to be a long day, hun. | |
| Oh, you want me to explain? Oh. | |
| Well, how's he gonna, uh... | |
| Trials are boring. | |
| How's he gonna whisper a racist stuff in his client's ear? | |
| With the glass there. | |
| You're on. | |
| He doesn't take into account rebound. | |
| This isn't Ghost in Mississippi. | |
| Colored! | |
| Colored! | |
| Oh, jeez, son of a- I told you he doesn't look like Jesus Christ. | |
| You just have a bunch of- just a bunch of black Hebrew Israelites right now walk with | |
| uh, burlap sacks. | |
| All these letters to Jesus Christ! | |
| Those who are into theology. | |
| Or Greg Kinnear movies. | |
| That too. | |
| What was that? | |
| Letters to Santa? | |
| 151 has received. | |
| Yeah. | |
| 151 is received. | |
| They're drinking? | |
| She is. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I'm going to ask for 151 to be put up on the screen so we can all see it. | |
| And we're going to light it. | |
| We're all going to do a shot. | |
| It's the first page of this document and I'll represent to you that we have not included the entire document, right? | |
| Thank goodness for that! | |
| So what I'm going to ask you to do here with the first line is tell us Run us through that first line and tell us the information on that very top line. | |
| The first line is from the call taker. | |
| It is a query of the plate that's in the call. | |
| The first line is Mike Lindell showing where the votes went to. | |
| She just called that lawyer a query. | |
| That's a rough way to start out. | |
| You should know your query. | |
| You should know query. | |
| Are you talking about my turtle mask? | |
| My wife called it this morning. | |
| There's a mass query. | |
| So it's easier for everybody to read along with you. | |
| At least the first couple lines, just so that it's bigger for us all to see. | |
| So the first column on the left, self-explanatory, that's the date. | |
| Correct. | |
| And then the time, also probably self-explanatory. | |
| What does user mean? | |
| User would be how you identify different persons involved. | |
| This person, you can tell, is a call taker. | |
| It's the first two letters there, and then it has their ID number. | |
| We all have our own ID numbers. | |
| And so what's your ID number? | |
| Mine is 1-2-3-0-9-6. | |
| And your phone number? | |
| Yes. | |
| Seven digits. | |
| Hobbies? | |
| White or red? | |
| Yeah. | |
| You like a steak? | |
| You into vegetarian? | |
| What do you like? | |
| How do you know that? | |
| It's given to our certain... Everybody has their own specific one. | |
| That's weird. | |
| If I needed to query that to find out who it was, it would tell me who their name is. | |
| But I also know that that's the call taker. | |
| What their name is? | |
| Sorry. | |
| And Ms. | |
| Scurry, are you wearing panties? | |
| Oh, jeez. | |
| I think that's inappropriate. | |
| This is common legal... I don't want to bother you with the legalese. | |
| He's really pro-forma. | |
| This is legal jargon. | |
| You need not bother yourself with. | |
| I want to get all the facts. | |
| Don't worry about it. | |
| May I smell your chair? | |
| laughter laughter | |
| Just want to make sure there's no COVID. | |
| There's no COVID. | |
| Just smell her hair and just be a Biden, okay? | |
| I've got a bloodhound nose. | |
| Can we remove your lanyard? | |
| I'm going to dust for Prince. | |
| They say she's a little dim, but them titties ain't. | |
| David Tell, my favorite bit. | |
| And then just on 38th Street, it's providing the information of where. | |
| Many viewers were thinking that. | |
| It's true though. | |
| Degenerates. | |
| we're thinking. It's true though. Degenerates. Shut up. It's a lady. | |
| Shut up. | |
| And as part of this process, does that information also go to the officers? Can we have someone bring up a picture of | |
| a hammerhead shark underneath? His mouth is like... | |
| It really is just... He's very Muppet-y. | |
| Yes. | |
| Where he's like Beaker. | |
| He's like, I don't know. | |
| I don't understand you, Beaker. | |
| What a boring trial. | |
| I know, right? | |
| Law is totally not like on TV. | |
| Yeah, it's totally not. | |
| Someone get Nancy Grace to scream about a missing child? | |
| Yeah, that's what we need. | |
| I do this for you! | |
| By the way, the third line there, the third line is actually important. | |
| It says, suspected of being under the influence, I think, or appears this person is under the influence. | |
| And that was shared with all the officers before they got there, so they knew that going in. | |
| Now is your response here of, mm-hmm, correct? | |
| And do you spell that with three or four M's? | |
| How do you do that? | |
| Could you show us how you did it? | |
| Do you mind if I loosen my tie? | |
| It's getting hot in here. | |
| Feel free to loosen yours. | |
| Oh, you're not wearing one. | |
| Well, feel free to loosen whatever it is that you wear. | |
| Yeah, whatever keeps those up. | |
| So terrible. | |
| You're going to have to do something to pass the time, guys. | |
| I understand. | |
| How's your back? | |
| You know, there's a Motel 6 not far from here, and I only need 15 minutes of recess. | |
| Six minutes with you. | |
| Well, you know what, attorney? | |
| I don't think I'm comfortable with that. | |
| Well, I'll tell you what. | |
| I'll just leave the key here, and I'll leave the light on for you. | |
| There you go. | |
| Oh, I seem to have left my motel room key right here. | |
| Just under the glass, you just see... Sir, what is that? | |
| It's not a Marriott key. | |
| What, a Marriott key? | |
| Who am I, a Rockefeller? | |
| It's Motel 6! | |
| We could both look out the window while it happens at the protesters. | |
| I originally dispatched this to 330. | |
| Let's get a third floor room so we can feel better. | |
| Look down at the police. | |
| I want to make sure I have this right. | |
| So this is Matthew Frank. | |
| This is the prosecutor. | |
| Is that his lanyard? | |
| Is that real? | |
| Sorry. | |
| It's him! | |
| It's the mouth! | |
| By the way, hammerhead sharks are really unpredictable. | |
| Sometimes they're fine, you can swim and touch them, and sometimes they're just thrashy. | |
| So I think we should make them all extinct. | |
| That's right. | |
| And prior to coming to court, did you have an opportunity to listen to a copy of that call? | |
| Did you have an opportunity to get lunch, or should we... | |
| I've got a reso at Wendy's. | |
| Not that Wendy's. | |
| He's mirroring his phone with the exhibits and they just see him dialing Panera. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Pardon me, your honor, I'm placing my order. | |
| Now, for example, D double D. Wow, you and this page have a lot in common. | |
| Is this Dave's terrible pickup lines? | |
| Yes, completely. | |
| What does the tag on your lanyard say? | |
| No, it says George Floyd Trial. | |
| I thought it said Made in Heaven. | |
| He has been referred to as Jesus Christ. | |
| Oh, this is the car. | |
| Why'd you stop? | |
| who used a color fit bill as a business, stopped acting as a black male, | |
| six foot or taller than him. | |
| Why'd you stop? | |
| Why would you stop? | |
| I apologize, your honor. | |
| The call was made using Vonage. | |
| They were already kind of defunded. | |
| Everything's Cricket Wireless inside the... Travis Barker, those commercials really got me. | |
| Now what did he do? | |
| He did Amped Mobile. | |
| There's like Boost Mobile. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I think he had technical difficulties there. | |
| Boy, they're having more technical difficulties in this show on the outside. | |
| Crazy. | |
| Can we play it? | |
| I'm on national television, guys. | |
| Somebody. | |
| Please, my shark mouth is going to be noticed any time. | |
| Too many people looking. | |
| I don't like eyes on me. | |
| I can only obfuscate it if I keep moving. | |
| I'm sorry, your honor, the part where she said it looks like he's under the influence of a controlled substance has been deleted. | |
| Do you know a lot about somebody who's under the influence of a controlled substance, ma'am? | |
| Yes, yes I do. | |
| I'm under the influence of loving you. | |
| The love drug. | |
| I wear magnums, bitch. | |
| So forward! | |
| I wouldn't earn it. | |
| Sometimes you just gotta go fishing with dynamite. | |
| Nuclear option. | |
| Oh, you gotta do what you gotta do. | |
| Is he walking off again? | |
| It's like Joe Biden in the press conference. | |
| He's not even putting a mask on. | |
| He's just all willy-nilly about it. | |
| What is happening? | |
| Turtle shell ashtray mask. | |
| By the way, that mask is useless. | |
| Shell ashtray mask. | |
| Yeah. | |
| By the way, that mask is useless. He just fondled it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Why does John King look like he just woke up from a nap? | |
| Right, dude. | |
| I love how he's giving us the play-by-play of what's happening in the courtroom. | |
| And now the judge is gone. | |
| He's got his hand on his mouth. | |
| Right now there is a technical issue. | |
| We are getting more information. | |
| I know. | |
| Hold. | |
| Stay with us. | |
| Is that frozen in the feed or is that judge just really still? | |
| He's very still. | |
| He's very still. | |
| The blue thing on his... To avoid predators. | |
| This is not uncommon for you to have this sort of procedural machinations process. | |
| He saw the hammerhead shark mouth and went... That blue thing... Ah! | |
| He's coming closer! | |
| What are you doing? | |
| They'll think I'm a sea anemone. | |
| I'm just floating along. | |
| I don't know if you noticed, that blue thing on his desk also sticks to a shower wall. | |
| Why is she, where is she? | |
| She's in Denver or something? | |
| D.C. | |
| says. | |
| I don't know. | |
| What, she's in front of a ski lodge? | |
| Yeah, I was gonna say, she's... I'm here at the Ski-In Cafe, Ski-In, Ski-Out Cafe, and I know about as much as you, Mr. King. | |
| I'll be honest, I heard about this trial and I want to be where people ski, if you get my drift. | |
| The first thing that records is actually not your voice. | |
| What's going on with the mug there? | |
| So racist, Dave! | |
| Terrible! | |
| What? | |
| She's back! | |
| Dadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadad What is their 9-1-1 logo? | |
| Their 9-1-1 outline on their shirt looks like a Six Flags logo. | |
| that there's a person who used a color that still is a business what is their | |
| 9-1-1 logo their 9-1-1 outline on their shirt look like a Six Flags logo that's | |
| actually a Gibbons family reunion jacket looks like balloons | |
| 9-1-1, this is the Houston department of 9, we can take that 4-3. Copy, 30 on the input. Copy, 10 for 10-4. | |
| If I knew I was going to end up on trial, I would have been a little more peppy that day. | |
| Could you back that up and run us through it? | |
| Oh no. | |
| Stop it. | |
| You were fine air football once you backed the thing up. | |
| Do you like Ja Rule? | |
| it. Oh no. Stop it. You were fine after. I want your back to hang up. You like Ja Rule? | |
| And you initially called us out to 330, correct? Correct. | |
| Do you recall who was working in 330 that day? I don't specifically know. Well that's true | |
| because I... | |
| I actually have an answer. | |
| It seems that you were working it. | |
| It wasn't just at 3.30. | |
| It looks like this is 24-7. | |
| Impressive. | |
| How do you do it? | |
| Subsequent to that, there was a call from 3.20, correct? | |
| Yes. | |
| You heard the tape. | |
| What was the substance of that call? | |
| Again, you heard the tape. | |
| What the hell? | |
| Do I look handsome to you? | |
| I went to great clips. | |
| I don't feel it was great. | |
| It was good. | |
| I mean, I'm not upset about my hair, but it's not the best it's ever looked. | |
| Usually I'm a super cuts guy. | |
| They were back booked up. | |
| I called. | |
| I said I got a trial to do and nothing. | |
| I bet you clear a squad. | |
| But here's the problem, this is Dave as a juror as well, making these jokes in his head. | |
| Yeah, it's a good thing I'm not a juror. | |
| Yeah, it's a good thing I'm not a juror. | |
| I'd be like, that hammerhead's trying to bang that witness! | |
| And then he's going to eat the turtle! | |
| That's in my dissenting opinion. | |
| That's a hung jury. | |
| It's like, I did not think the hammerhead did a very good job. | |
| Yeah, this guy doesn't take any of this seriously and he keeps ordering more expensive lunches. | |
| Come on guys, we can get Red Lobster in here. | |
| You know what I'm talking about, huh? | |
| Right witness! | |
| Say, do you like Red Lobster? | |
| Of course I love Red Lobster. | |
| It's my favorite. | |
| Yes. | |
| All right. | |
| So, if we can go back to 151, please. | |
| Of course I love Red Lobster. | |
| It's my favorite. | |
| But it's not my birthday. | |
| Why would you bring me there? | |
| I celebrate their entire menu. | |
| I love lobster season, shrimp season, I celebrate their entire seasonal catalog. | |
| I don't even know how it makes sense that there's a season for an animal. | |
| This is why trials take forever. | |
| Where is he going with any of this? | |
| How does this matter? | |
| Can you just be like, yeah, is this you? | |
| Is this what you said? | |
| Here's the tape. | |
| Alright, that's the evidence. | |
| Next. | |
| I think it's just because lawyers get paid by the hour. | |
| I think that's true. | |
| And he's on TV. | |
| I'm not kidding. | |
| This trial is on TV everywhere right now. | |
| And they know that. | |
| It's either this or William Shatner reading the name of your firm. | |
| It's just, I mean, hopefully they're building the case. | |
| Oh, this is the state prosecutors though, right? | |
| So these are the people... | |
| I know, but I'm hoping that they're going to build it to something interesting. | |
| Were you the dispatch? | |
| Yes. | |
| Did you send them people? | |
| Yes. | |
| I could have covered this for 30 seconds. | |
| Did the plate say it was George Floyd? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Did they say it was on drugs? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Okay, next! | |
| John, what's your Netflix password? | |
| That's what I thought it said too! | |
| Why would you ask that? | |
| Do you like to chill? | |
| I do. | |
| You work the night shift? | |
| What's your biological, what's your circadian rhythm like? | |
| What's the policy on personal 911 calls? | |
| Is this a banana in my pocket? | |
| My pants are about to peel. | |
| One of those call logs is just him, the transcript. | |
| What are you wearing? | |
| Sorry, are you reporting a crime? | |
| Not yet. | |
| No, but there's gonna be. | |
| Because if that ass don't get tapped, it should be illegal. | |
| At the very least, gross injustice of the system. | |
| Systematic issues. | |
| Oh man. | |
| If I don't get next to that thing, there is no justice. | |
| And we'll make fun of the men too. | |
| I'm going to throw in a lobster bib, but the thing I'm going to eat won't be dinner. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | |
| No, what are you talking about? | |
| It means you. | |
| I should never have asked. | |
| Let's give him a ding for that. | |
| I'm just good at it. | |
| It's gonna be a mess is my point. | |
| I think we're gonna need to go live to tape with Dave. | |
| By the way, my system... | |
| All his shots are pre-taped. | |
| I'm in a different outfit every time you cut to me. | |
| Great thoughts, David. | |
| Very good. | |
| Didn't he die three years ago? | |
| Still using them. | |
| We get his reactions. | |
| Those are really good. | |
| Just tape 12 things of me and have me killed. | |
| I'm trying to see what we've got. | |
| Oh, we've got the prosecutor's notice. | |
| I guess theoretically, when you signed your contract, it's in perpetuity. | |
| It is. | |
| You could do really whatever. | |
| Every once in a while, what do you think, Dave? | |
| You pretty much just need me to make an incest joke and a 9-11 joke and you can just put it on a loop. | |
| How long are they gonna do this? | |
| They're going through live by live! | |
| Well what does this mean? | |
| Well what does this mean? | |
| What does this mean? | |
| What does this mean? | |
| Could somebody turn up the air conditioning in here? | |
| I'm waiting for it to get to 57. | |
| Hold, please. | |
| What a boring... I have watched Law & Order and never seen anything like this! | |
| This is nothing like the movies. | |
| I hope he's found guilty just because I have to sit through this. | |
| Oh, now they're doing a juxtaposition. | |
| There's more. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Let's see. | |
| What is this? | |
| Can you describe what's listed there? | |
| What that line is about? | |
| I believe I heard EMS code 2 for a mouth injury requested by the squad. | |
| And so that's 320 calling in for that, correct? | |
| Correct. | |
| And so code 2 you told us earlier means what? | |
| Non-emergent. | |
| And then describe for us then what's depicted in the next line at 2021-35. | |
| Squad 330 requests an EMS code 3. | |
| Upgrade. | |
| 330, upgrading the call to code 3. | |
| Is that a yes? | |
| Yes. | |
| Oh, look at that, you've got a pretty smile. | |
| Your mouth really tells the story. | |
| Just to be clear, when we talk about EMS, we might think of that as an ambulance, right? | |
| Correct. | |
| You should smile more. | |
| You look good doing it. | |
| Your smile makes me smile. | |
| Speaking of emergent, I'm about to emerge from my slacks. | |
| My pants have just been upgraded to an EM-3. | |
| Also, I have a mouth injury I need you to check out. | |
| Do my tonsils look swollen? | |
| Are you trained in mouth-to-mouth resuscitation? | |
| No! | |
| No I'm not! | |
| You don't need to involve the paramedics. | |
| I gotta hit an ATM and I ain't talking about the bank. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | |
| You! | |
| But I'm flexible. | |
| I can do the back of the car or the ground. | |
| I might look old, but I am stunningly, stunningly flexible. | |
| I'm like a little Asian girl gymnast, but I'm an old white man. | |
| So we're adding additional agency to that. | |
| Now explain why, like is EMS different than fire? | |
| Yes. | |
| How so? | |
| One's a fire. | |
| One is EMS and one is fire, jackass. | |
| North and then Hennepin County, Hennepin EMS. | |
| And this is them writing in here. | |
| Adding the additional fire-fire is clearly firefighters, but they are medically trained. | |
| They can be anywhere in the city. | |
| I went shopping at Men's Warehouse. | |
| Would you say this outfit is quote-unquote fire? | |
| I was told I was gonna like the way I look. | |
| Do you like the way I look? | |
| Sure, it's a little expensive, but I got that kind of coin. | |
| It really is the only thing that matters. | |
| You're the expert witness. | |
| Can you believe I got two suits for a hundred dollars? | |
| How about these shirts they threw in for free? | |
| Yeah, they're pretty nice. | |
| I got some cufflinks. | |
| But the good thing is, with the shirts they gave me, I don't need them. | |
| They have buttons, too. | |
| There's really no need for the cufflinks whatsoever. | |
| I got stopped going through the metal detector. | |
| It took us eight tries before I realized I used the cufflinks. | |
| It's because I had them in my pocket. | |
| I forgot completely. | |
| I'm like, my keys are in the dish. | |
| So you're saying they didn't send a fire truck to kill a guy? | |
| So fire would not be able to see that unless they had their own call. | |
| And so the line above that is the multi-agency fire is adding fire. | |
| All right, I just see this getting increasingly immature with Dave and I, so we should call it a back to the trial | |
| tomorrow. | |
| There he is. He's on the hunt. | |
| So you're saying they didn't send a fire truck to kill a guy. | |
| Yes. | |
| Did they think they were more racist than the cops? | |
| Is that why they sent them? | |
| Was it a smoke signal? | |
| I don't know about that, but I know that you stopped this hard. | |
| I can't breathe. | |
| Excuse me, is your last name Fentanyl? | |
| Because I can't breathe. | |
| Too soon. | |
| Yeah, thank you. | |
| Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. | |
| I know what you're thinking. | |
| You usually don't hang out with strangers, but I'm not that kind of guy. | |
| Could you please stop flirting with a witness? | |
| Shut up, Bane. | |
| I'll do what I want. | |
| Can you please stop playing Take My Breath Away? | |
| Just the wrong theme song. | |
| Just cuz he's from say anything Yeah | |
| He doesn't really know what to go with. | |
| He's just playing Top 40 Hip Hop. | |
| You like this? | |
| Whatever channels I... I heard that you do! | |
| That's a commercial for debt cleansing. | |
| Comedy helps us express our emotions. | |
| All right, is there anything that I should wrap up here with a fact? | |
| Well, and you let us know. | |
| Well, you know what? | |
| We'll take your chat here. | |
| We'll go to Mug Club for people who are still here. | |
| Let us know, too, in the comments section. | |
| The best thing you can do, obviously, is comment. | |
| Let us know if you want us to be covering this trial, or specifically, you want us just covering moments that we think will be If anything, not horribly uninteresting like this, because I know it's a historical moment, but I think people look back and they remember the highlights of, like, O.J. | |
| They remember, like, the glove, and they don't remember Johnny Cochran listing his grocery list for nine hours. | |
| That's true. | |
| This isn't court TV, Stephen. | |
| Right. | |
| Can't build a network on 24-hour coverage. | |
| They're really not going to highlight these highlights that he's using right now. | |
| That is for sure. | |
| That is the worst. | |
| There's no reason to have this. | |
| I'm trying to see if there's anything here that we also need to fact check. | |
| No, it seems like we pretty much got all this right. | |
| Just to be clear, Hennepin County, the Dr. Andrew Bakers, we were talking about this earlier, because the prosecution said they were going to bring out the lady who trained... Thompson. | |
| Baker. | |
| Dr. Thompson. | |
| He's the one who conducted the only autopsy. | |
| He's the only one who actually conducted an autopsy, and in that autopsy, some other information that I didn't give you earlier, there were blood gas tests showed an exceptionally high blood level of CO2 drugs that suppress breathing and cause CO2 to accumulate in the blood. | |
| There were not only no asphyxiation, there were no bruises to the neck at all, which is surprising to me. | |
| No hemorrhaging. | |
| No evidence of restricted airflow. | |
| No mechanical asphyxia. | |
| Femoral blood draw showed high levels of fentanyl methamphetamine. | |
| The state purposely contracted private examiners to contradict the findings. | |
| By the way, he's the only one who actually conducted the official autopsy. | |
| And yeah, and it showed what we already know, an enlarged heart with something called extradrenal paraganglioma. | |
| That's a tumor that secretes adrenaline. | |
| Adrenaline, yeah. | |
| Which sounds like a bad combo when mixed with meth and fentanyl. | |
| Yeah, it's no good. | |
| I think you have a heart attack. | |
| This is sad, and you know what the truth is? | |
| They're banking on you not watching the boring stuff. | |
| This is the issue, because I also understand, it is boring. | |
| This is terrible, it's boring, and that guy is probably going to go home with her to the Red Lobster, and they'll have a wonderful time. | |
| Guilty of being a player. | |
| Those biscuits. | |
| Literally those biscuits. | |
| Cheddar Bay. | |
| Don't hate the player, hate the busboys at Red Lobster because they dilly-dally. | |
| I think the problem with this is the media is going to pull Just like before, there isn't going to be illumination for most people. | |
| Now, a lot of people tuned in to watch the opening statements. | |
| I think that's a good thing because many people had no idea. | |
| If you watch CNN, you wouldn't know about the drugs in the system or the level to which he was intoxicated. | |
| You wouldn't know about the actual autopsy and the report. | |
| You wouldn't know about the toxicology report. | |
| This was never told on mainstream media. | |
| So that That might slip through and I'm really grateful that we have this platform so we're able to punch through when YouTube doesn't decide to remove it or Twitter ban me. | |
| But keep in mind that this is going to be going on for a very, very long time and just like many of you remember certain moments from the OJ trial. | |
| Or many of you remember certain, I'm trying to think, well really the OJ trial is the big one that I can think of. | |
| The Menendez brothers? | |
| Oh yeah, that would be one. | |
| You have certain moments that you've forgotten a lot of what happened because these things went on for weeks. | |
| And that's because the media handpicked what they wanted you to see. | |
| And considering what we know right now about the media and their lackeys in Washington, D.C. | |
| right now, They're going to handpick the most damning clips, and so I just expect it to be a repeat of the same. | |
| They'll show the clip of him on the ground. | |
| They won't show the 10-minute clip leading up where he's saying that he can't breathe. | |
| They're going to show you probably some clips that show Floyd being a great family man and a member of the community. | |
| They're not going to show you that he committed a crime against a member of the community that day. | |
| They're not going to show you his violent rap sheet. | |
| They're not going to show you the multiple times that he resisted arrest. | |
| So what I am still worried about is this is going to be going on and people will think, Well, at least everything's out in the open now, and justice was served when the fact is most people aren't in the know, most people aren't paying attention, and the media is going to use this as an opportunity to lead you by the nose. | |
| So, if you don't watch it with us, you need to be watching it. | |
| At the very least, like I've always said, find some conservative websites, right-leaning websites, and find some left-leaning websites, and match them up. | |
| You should always go one-to-one. | |
| If you go to Fox News, then go to CNN. | |
| if you go to whatever it is. So you go to our website, then go to whatever LGBTQ blog spot | |
| that says we're Hitler. My point is just line them up left and right, left and right, so that at least | |
| you know what both sides are saying on this story because you can't expect anyone to be honest with | |
| you. And frankly, we don't have the fortitude to sit through just how boring this is, including | |
| the judge with his Bane mask. He looks like Moby in a turtle shell Bane mask. Yeah, maybe get a | |
| different mask because it's hurting your ears. Yes. What you didn't hear the person who's three | |
| feet next to you maybe take out of a fishbowl. | |
| I thought he was playing the dating game and they put him in a soundproof booth. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's quiz show, buddy. | |
| He's playing 21. | |
| He's cheating. | |
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| That's what allows us to do this because this will be demonetized back then. | |
| So that's how we keep it alive right now. | |
| YouTube, thank you very much. | |
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