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Feb. 15, 2019 - Louder with Crowder

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#435 TWITTER’S LIBERAL AGENDA EXPOSED! | Gavin McInnes & Lauren Southern Guest | Louder With Crowder

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	You son of a bitch!
	Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
	Don't do this, kid.
	I won't.
	It'll move us.
	No!
	Don't move us!
	It's about to feel astute.
	It's more than you can handle.
	You see, I have hair.
	That Susan was this!
	Oh my!
	The the
	the the
	The mixed lawyer.
	Mrs. Wojcicki.
	Have you seen one before?
	I've never had the pleasure of seeing one in person.
	Seven Duchess.
	Chinese.
	Chubby.
	Like a baby.
	I saw your mind.
	I saw your beliefs.
	They break you in half.
	Follow me.
	My club always thinks that the truth is the best.
	Like our lesbians.
	They've never described it.
	They don't send me jokes.
	And the couch.
	I hope you can do the same.
	Once.
	The same is true of you, Putin.
	I swear to you.
	Why don't you make a deal with the PDC?
	The DGNs had classified 900 organizations as soviet groups.
	The best opportunity to take down the Mood Club as one.
	Negro, please.
	But they won't go to the Mood Club.
	If you try to stop us, they'll eat my organ.
	Chino Mixto.
	You're a stranger in hope, that's what I know.
	I'm a speedy disaster.
	That's called the third chair is too cool for school right now.
	Yeah, I can feel it.
	Perhaps a little inebriated, but I do, I'm a big fan, of course, DefendGavin.com.
	Gavin McInnes, how are you, sir?
	Hello, everyone.
	How are you?
	I see what you did there.
	See, usually a hat would be worn under the headphones.
	Well, if your hat has a brim, then you have to wear it on top of your headphones, and it takes intense balancing, but I was an African woman for many years, and we would go and collect water from a river that was about four miles from our mud hut.
	Was this in a previous life, or just when you were a racist?
	Uh, no, I identified as an African woman.
	Okay, alright, that's fair.
	And then someone said, why don't you move the mud hut next to the war?
	And I had never thought of that, and I stopped carrying water in my head.
	That makes sense, but you still wear the headphones.
	It's like riding a bike.
	Here, there you go, show them your hood pass.
	That's awful.
	And G. Morgan Jr., what's the wine of the day?
	Wine of the day is Lang Twins Pinot Noir.
	And I'm leaving this one!
	I'm leaving it!
	I'm leaving it!
	I'm leaving it.
	Not anymore.
	A quick question of the day.
	We're going to be talking about Jack Dorsey, of course.
	That's been the topic of this week.
	Where do you line up here?
	Is it time for the government to regulate big tech as public utilities?
	I know there's some different opinions on the right.
	I'm not quite there.
	We talked about it during Ash Wednesday yesterday.
	We'll run through the clips of Joe Rogan and Sam Harris and all the stuff going on with Jack Dorsey.
	Before we get to that, Happy Valentine's Day!
	Oh yeah!
	Said everyone this morning and my heart just about sank through my bottom.
	I genuinely forgot about Valentine's Day.
	Did you really?
	Yes.
	Slate didn't though.
	Slate is actually claiming that Donald Trump is ruining sex!
	Oh, of course!
	Citing quote, post-Trump sex disorder, they claim Donald Trump created feelings of fear, loathing, and of just not
	wanting to have sex.
	So yeah, amongst your other personal problems, you can now blame Trump for your sexual dysfunction.
	Unsurprisingly though, Pfizer has already developed a drug to help.
	Oh good.
	Have you been struggling with an embarrassing problem for frankly like the last two years?
	Does reading Fox and BuzzFeed, okay, leave you feeling like not quite a man?
	Do President Trump's witty tweets leave your dicks off?
	Then, frankly, Trump Palace, okay, is for you.
	Trumpalice.
	Do not use Trumpalice during historic job growth.
	Trumpalice is not covered by Obamacare.
	Trumpalice may not be effective if you're vegan, drive an electric car, or live in San Francisco.
	Erections from Trumpalice may last four years.
	Should your erection last a second term, consult your physician, though there's pretty much nothing you can do.
	Trumpalice.
	Not for Mexicans.
	It almost seems like he's not the person who should be narrating that.
	I agree with everything you've been saying, by the way.
	Jokes are my reality now.
	My sex life has been hurt by Trump.
	My wife doesn't like Trump.
	And I don't think Mexicans have a problem with erectile dysfunction.
	Oh, I don't know.
	That's true because there are so many of them.
	That's also because a lot of them are Catholic.
	Also, we should note that your wife doesn't like Trump because you do refer to your small member as Trump.
	That's the nickname.
	In international news, there was an explosion in a German chocolate factory.
	The firefighters closed off the... What were you about to say?
	Don't do that.
	You sounded like Bill Superfoot Wallace in the first UFC.
	Did you hear when he was commentating?
	He goes, and with fighting... Oh God, that guy just lost his tooth.
	This is literally his face.
	He goes...
	Did he really do that?
	On air, I swear to you.
	I watched it.
	I googled Bill Superfoot Wallace.
	And it wasn't, the fights hadn't even started.
	And I think Brian Kilmeade was there.
	He goes, hey, I'm gonna have it.
	Just like this look of horror on his face where he knows he's been immediately laid off.
	German chocolate factory exploded.
	This comes from NBC News.
	The firefighters closed off the street and shoveled the chocolate about 108 square feet.
	I'm surprised they don't use meters here.
	To one side before a specialist cleaning company cleaned the road.
	Unfortunately, that specialty cleaning company turned out to be a refugee rape gang led by none other than the notorious Augustus Mohammed Gloop.
	Yeah, that was sad to find.
	Look at the monster you created, son of a Milwaukee.
	Look at the monster you have created!
	This is unnecessary.
	I don't feel good about bringing Gene Wilder into this.
	No.
	It hurts.
	I was never in the nation of Islam!
	You're lying!
	No!
	No!
	Never!
	No!
	That's a sad waste of chocolate right there.
	Especially on Valentine's Day.
	Come on!
	And it's a sad waste of a good Gene Wilder impression.
	Let's be honest, this is not when I wanted to take that out.
	Should save it.
	Turning to the 2020 race because that interests Gavin, I know.
	Oh, the hat's gone.
	His sex will get better if, you know, if Trump loses apparently.
	That's true.
	Do you find yourself conflicted?
	What do you mean?
	When it comes to sex, there's no conflict.
	I'll take it anywhere, in any way, shape, or form.
	Yeah, but you said Cory Booker can count on your vote.
	That's a bit too far.
	What am I conflicted about?
	Trump?
	Well, no, because you said your sex life was harmed by Trump.
	No, no, no.
	I don't masturbate.
	So... How does that...?
	What the...?
	Sex is happening.
	Sex is happening.
	It's almost like, sorry.
	Like, as I walk towards her, I'm like, sorry.
	I don't want to either.
	You signed on for this ride.
	You knew what you were getting into.
	We're both involuntary here.
	You mentioned that you had Gary Wilson on your show and he talked about that.
	Guys who weren't using pornography were chasing their wives around and most wives like it.
	Fortunately, not most.
	If you masturbate and you watch porn and your wife puts you in the doghouse, you're like, fine, I'll set up in the doghouse.
	But when she cuts off the spigot and there's no other option, it sucks to be in the doghouse.
	No, it can't.
	a lot of control over you. Turning to the 2020 race, Cory Booker, speaking of which,
	he claimed that our planet simply can't sustain people eating meat.
	No, no it can't. This is what he said to the vegan presidential
	candidate. Those are words that I never thought I would say.
	Can you imagine telling that to Taft? Is he a vegan? So sad.
	Concerned about meat consumption, he warned that the greenhouse gases produced by the
	industry are quote, not practical.
	And unfortunately, this led to the decline in stock prices for Dairy Futures, Tyson Foods, and the swift execution of all participating dancers at New Jersey's Beefcakes.
	Yeah, so unintended consequences.
	Yeah, that's the wrong beef, I think.
	Yeah, I don't think it's the wrong beef.
	It's just a different flavor of beef.
	Okay, I'm gonna say no to that one.
	You had a point here there, Gavin.
	I believe so.
	No?
	What are we talking about?
	Doing the show pitch, you mentioned New York and abortion, something like that.
	Oh yeah, another great way to reduce carbon emissions.
	Smooth.
	Well sorry, you're calling back to something from like 80 hours ago.
	Another great thing about New York... You wrote it down.
	It's in front of you.
	The show's best meeting was this morning!
	Don't distract me!
	I remember now the thing in my face.
	Yeah, no, New York is working hard on that.
	You can just abort a baby whenever you want.
	It could be 35 years old.
	The Freedom Tower was lit up pink the day we decided you could have an abortion at nine months.
	Cuomo, the Catholic school educated governor, said, yay!
	Pink power!
	We can kill babies!
	Now, they can't do that in Jersey, unfortunately, so they have to go to veganism, but we can just get to kill kids at random.
	I know.
	Look, who was it that died and they didn't have the flag at half-mast, Barack Obama?
	I don't know.
	Oh, it was somebody, I remember that.
	I don't know, but, you know, killing 40 local babies is definitely at full-mast.
	Look, gas is natural.
	It's a very natural thing from these animals, so that's fine, right?
	But vegans, I've never seen healthy vegans.
	I'm not kidding.
	I'm not trying to make a joke.
	Oh, your point there is so pedestrian.
	It's so true.
	I know some healthy vegans.
	No, you don't.
	Mike Mahler.
	He's not healthy.
	He's very healthy.
	He's only healthy when you see him.
	He's sick every other day.
	I don't know.
	I follow his Instagram, and I think you're lying.
	Oh, well, fine.
	There's a lot of unhealthy non-vegans when you go to Walmart.
	Oh, of course.
	Yes, that's true.
	The people of Walmart, please don't get me thinking of that song again.
	Or the studio.
	You find a lot of unhealthy non-vegans as well.
	That's true.
	Here's something that's pretty troubling.
	A mother in the UK was arrested after deadnaming a tranny on Twitter.
	Deadnaming, by the way, means misgendering.
	But that's the term now, deadnaming.
	So they make it sound more sinister.
	It's like, what are you talking about?
	Are you talking about killing a nine-month-old?
	No, we're pro-choice!
	Oh, you mean that I use the scientifically proper pronoun?
	Deadnaming!
	Isn't that what it's like calling Bruce Jenner?
	That's deadnaming?
	You're using their dead name.
	Well, I think if you said he.
	It comes from the Daily Mail anyway, so it's a silly place.
	Claiming harassment and malicious communications, police arrested her, this mom, in front of her children and they held her for seven hours.
	To be fair to the police, they did find these friendly refugees to babysit, so it wasn't all bad.
	Well, those guys look good.
	It's convenient.
	This is the country, by the way, that probably sacrificed more than almost anybody during World War II to make sure that we fought the exact forces that are taking them over, and now it's literally 1984 all over again.
	I mean, the book is becoming true reality, and we can watch it.
	This sucks.
	They call it deadnaming, and they go, you've killed me by getting my gender wrong, and then you look at the person, you go, you look like my dad with a girl drawn on your face.
	Yes, and let's be honest, let's be honest, there was a 42% chance you're gonna do it anyway.
	Yeah.
	I'm not happy about it.
	I'm only happy that I've won this exchange right now.
	Finally, let's move on because this is definitely demonetized.
	Kamala Harris.
	Look at Gavin, he's doing this.
	I've been de-platformed and now we just did the deadnaming.
	Kamala Harris, because we love her.
	We're going to do everything wrong with Kamala Harris next week, by the way.
	Every single Democratic candidate, we're going to do a, they call it dive in now, on all of these candidates, every single one.
	Kamala Harris is up next.
	She claimed that she used to get high in high school, or sorry, college, college, in college while she was listening to Snoop Dogg and Tupac.
	Reason pointed this out.
	Here's the problem.
	Harris graduated from college and law school in the late 80s.
	Snoop and Pac didn't actually debut until the early 90s.
	And you were mentioning this too earlier that Tupac, at this point, was in New Orleans.
	Tupac was a very effeminate drama club kid in New Orleans, and he was really big into dance.
	He loved to dance, dance, dance.
	Really?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And then he did the movie.
	So he was Ethel Merman.
	He did the movie.
	He was!
	He had more in common with Ethel Merman.
	I see no changes.
	Clang, clang, clang went the trolley!
	Yes!
	And then he did Juice, and he played a thug, and people went, you know what?
	I kind of like the thug guy.
	And he's like, okay, from now on, I'm a gangster.
	So he basically just took the role and played it out.
	Yeah.
	Lots of guys like it.
	De Niro was a drama club kid until he was in Mean Streets, and he's like, no, I'm a tough guy.
	Yeah, yeah, I'm a tough guy.
	That's all the superheroes as well.
	People are like, do you think actors take steroids?
	Well, imagine all of your drama club nerds and make them Superman.
	So, um, some people say that she was caught in a lie, by the way, just trying to pan her to the urban audience.
	Others believe she might have been confused with one of the spec scripts to which she's recently been attached, actually.
	Specifically regarding time travel, which brings us to this week's 7 Plus 1!
	You forgot Stefan in the chamber!
	This week, 7 plus... Always forget the one in the chamber.
	By the way, look at this wonderful Walther PPK.
	Doesn't it look awesome?
	Isn't it beautiful?
	Yeah.
	It feels good, too.
	Well, that was the one yesterday, I think, but this is a beautiful firearm, and it's being made by Walther again.
	It's not being licensed to those hacks at Smith & Wesson.
	So, this week, 7 plus 1 is upcoming time-traveling film project starring Kamala Harris.
	Yeah, so that's apparently... because, you know, Snoop and Peggy.
	So, number 7, Back to the Future, F***ing Liar.
	Yeah, that's one that seems to be...
	Gavin, it's right in front of you in case you forget.
	You want to take number six?
	Oh, I like number six.
	I've actually seen it.
	It's Kamala and Ted's bogus pandering bullsh** adventure.
	Yeah, there we go.
	Were you running out of breath?
	You sounded like the killer in Mindhunters.
	I had a pube in my throat.
	Okay, I apologize.
	It's your beard, don't worry.
	Number five, totally inaccurate recall.
	That's, yeah, one that seems to be... That goes right into it.
	Let's just keep that up there.
	Number four, Terminator 2, bad judgment day.
	I wasn't super proud of it.
	Bad judgment?
	But it made it in there.
	Let's go to... You can do number three.
	Oh, I liked X-Men Future Past.
	Yes.
	Check it out.
	Very good.
	And then you were a fan of number two as well.
	Oh, Hot Tub Lie Machine is a zinger.
	Hot Tub Lie Machine.
	And by the way, she put on a stellar performance there as the black guy from The Office.
	And the number one Kamala Harris time traveling project, the Butter Lie Effect.
	And of course, the plus one is time.
	This has been this week's 7 Plus 1.
	7 plus 1!
	Alright.
	You forgot to burn in the chamber!
	One of these days I'll get it.
	By the way, I have to look down here because we were going to give out an award to a trivia winner.
	Really?
	But they actually got the trivia wrong.
	Did they really?
	Yeah, so they were wrong.
	It said it was Crazy Pete's Abortion Emporium.
	It was abortion... I don't even know what it was.
	Crazy Pete's Abortion Barn.
	That's right.
	I don't even know.
	They called it Emporium.
	It was the Stem Cell Emporium, which was a different, they were mixing different areas of Crazy Pete.
	Somebody out there, get real close.
	So the winner though is William J. Boston at WillBoss88, show him you love him, who correctly answered that Clint Howard played YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki.
	Very nice.
	He got that right.
	I just had a hiccup.
	I just had a really bad hiccup.
	Oh no, the hat's back.
	The hat's back.
	Did he put it back?
	Oh jeez.
	That's a good get, Clint Howard.
	He's awesome.
	We wanted him to always play Susan Wojcicki just because we know how mad she was when she goes, He doesn't even look like me.
	I'm way hotter than that.
	And everyone around her is going, he kind of does.
	It's not that far off.
	I will tell you this about Clint Howard.
	Have you ever had him on your show?
	No.
	He's what you would expect Clint Howard to be.
	He did our show from his hot tub naked one time.
	And he drops his phone, and we see just a little bit of that kind of fold above the pecker, and it goes right into the water, like it was a sketch.
	But this actually happened.
	He calls back, guys, I'm really sorry, I'm using my iPad now, and he's in this cringed terrycloth robe.
	And did it ruin his iPhone?
	It did.
	It did ruin his iPhone.
	That's so funny.
	And here's the one thing I will say about Clinton Howard, and it's completely unrelated.
	I thought, oh my gosh, when he was doing Susan Wojcicki, Maybe we should tell this after the show, because I feel like this is inside baseball, that people should join Mug Club if they want to actually hear all of these stories.
	But he took so many takes.
	He'd be like, now am I saying, don't be such a **** Ebeneezer to Ebeneezer YouTube?
	Or am I saying like, don't be such a ****?
	And he'd do like 50 takes.
	And I was going, this is going to be terrible.
	And then when we watched the rushes, we were going, this guy is unbelievable.
	He knows exactly how he appears on camera, where his body moves through space.
	Every single take was gold.
	That's awesome.
	Isn't 90% of the joke that he's remarkably unattractive?
	Some would say.
	Like Steve Buscemi?
	He's a good friend of the show there.
	Way to go.
	I don't think he thinks he's hot.
	No, I think you're correct.
	I don't think I'm hot.
	He played a monster in a film one time.
	He played the bad guy.
	And they tossed on an eyepatch.
	Are you sure I don't need any prosthetics, or it feels good?
	No, you're good.
	He has, like, a catalog of 300 films.
	All right, OK.
	Wow.
	So the dive-in segment here, again, the question of the day, what do you think about social media, if they need to be regulated as public utilities?
	Nigel Farage said that last time he was on.
	Jordan Peterson said that.
	This brings us to the topic right now.
	Jack Dorsey, of course, has been appearing all across new media.
	I don't know, I don't think we should call it new media anymore, just media.
	Media, yeah, good media.
	But specifically podcasts, Joe Rogan, Sam Harris, to talk about the company's Policies as well as free speech.
	So the problem here is that Dorsey continually, in my opinion, deceives people about Twitter's real policies while dodging questions and criticism.
	I think a couple things that are important.
	Jack Dorsey says that he doesn't want echo, that's what he says, he says he doesn't want echo chambers.
	But it's important to delineate the difference between, I agree, I think all of us would agree that targeted harassment, targeted libel, something that could result in doxing, physical harm, that has no role on social media because that's a crime in real life, by the way.
	But that's not the same as an echo chamber.
	And watch him talk about echo chambers here on, I think this is Joe Rogan.
	Yeah.
	We do incentivize a lot of echo chambers because we don't make it easy for people to... Sounds like he's saying he emphasizes... He sounds slightly shamed.
	He feels shamed.
	If I follow a bunch of accounts that, like Boris Johnson who was constantly giving me information about reasons to leave, Tell me about Brexit.
	I would probably only see that perspective.
	Nigel Farage.
	If you made a mistake, you would probably only see one perspective.
	A lot of folks just will not follow accounts that have a completely different perspective or a different influence.
	But he's turned the whole thing into a bubble.
	Hopefully journalists do.
	But most people won't do that work.
	Yeah, no, I think you're right.
	And here, you kind of see the solution there where it's about, he was looking at Garrett, like, why is Garrett doing this just so I know how short the clip is?
	It's because he can't see outside the brim of your hat.
	Notice the solution here is always to try and engineer people.
	It's like, well, people don't follow people with opposing viewpoints.
	By the way, we always encourage you to.
	We always encourage you to read Huffington Post and Salon and go watch Fox every single day.
	We tell you to go read the Green New Deal for yourself.
	So if people make the mistake of not doing that, that's on them.
	But I find it really interesting that he brings up Brexit.
	And he mentions that as an echo chamber.
	Here's what he's missing.
	All of the mainstream media, BBC, and everyone here in the States,
	all of the news outlets promoted anti-Brexit propaganda.
	It's, by the way, they were so surprised when Brexit happened because they believed their own lies.
	And because Twitter and new media was designed to be an alternative platform,
	You want people to be able to hear the other side.
	Basically what he's saying is not that I don't want diversity of ideas.
	here. Boris Johnson is not more powerful than the BBC, nor is Nigel Farage, but you get him on Twitter
	and people are actually able to hear his ideas. They say, well, that's a little bit interesting.
	I didn't know that because I never heard it before.
	Well, and I want this, we do have diversity of ideas here.
	You want people to be able to hear the other side. Basically what he's saying is not that I
	don't want diversity of ideas. He's like, I just don't want the ideas I disagree with. He's the
	authoritarian.
	He's not saying that there yet, but we'll get to it.
	What's with the hypocrisy of that statement, though?
	He's sitting there saying people get into a bubble and they don't look up to other views.
	Meanwhile, hey, you want a different view?
	Why don't you go look up Gavin McInnes on Twitter, or Owen Benjamin on Twitter, or Alex Jones on Twitter.
	So he's censoring people, creating a bubble, and then saying there's this problem where people just get in a bubble.
	They're too lazy.
	That's a really good point.
	Your whole thing is a bubble now, dude!
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	Really quick.
	Recently recently YouTube tweeted out.
	you what I mean don't don't not take your breath before I go to you.
	I want to say something I'm okay Garrett?
	I'm not tired.
	Recently YouTube tweeted out oh wouldn't it be horrible imagine if you couldn't
	watch the videos you love. What?
	From YouTube?
	That would be terrible.
	Yeah, what if they were demonetized, too?
	What if people who were subscribed to your videos weren't able to find them?
	I don't know what!
	And here's what's crazy.
	You know, leftist echo chambers are fine.
	Right-wing echo chambers become hate speech.
	And now, let's just not have right-wing echo chambers at all.
	Let's just get rid of all of the people.
	By the way, DefendGavin.com so you can go and help him with his fight with the SPLC.
	New media!
	Everyone was so excited about it when it started.
	I remember talking about this two, three years ago when this was a once-a-week, three-hour show.
	Everyone was saying, well, there's no barrier to entry now.
	I said, watch.
	When you see some conservatives, when you see alternative viewpoints doing well, the sharks are going to come.
	You're going to see them, particularly from old media, ABC, NBC, CBS, Viacom.
	CNN, right, Turner, you're going to see them go after YouTube where they cannot win on a level
	playing field as it relates to viewers, as it relates to content. So how do they win? Money
	and censoring the opposition. And here we are now. This was the whole purpose to new media.
	So that someone like a Boris Johnson or a Nigel Farage could have just as loud of a voice as the
	BBC. Yeah, Gavin. We should make it clear too, there is such a thing as Nazis.
	There is a tiny group of Pepe Nutbars who photoshop you and I with swastikas and gas chambers, and they talk about the JQ and the 14 words and the 88 and all their little jargon and stuff.
	And if you allow those guys into your platform, it tends to be pretty bad for your platform.
	They tend to just make everyone go, I'm getting out of here.
	Right.
	They're sort of like the gremlins we were talking about the other day, but on the other side.
	It's like letting a bunch of guys crap in the parking lot where everyone's tailgating.
	Exactly.
	No one else wants to be there.
	Right.
	But those tailgate crappers are a very tiny sliver, and they're very easy to identify.
	And I think Twitter started out doing a pretty good job of getting rid of that tiny minority of lunatic Nazis.
	Maybe like 1% of the population, or much less actually, half a percent.
	And then, they were normal for a while, and comedians could tell horrible jokes and iron out content, and it's pretty fun.
	And then, using the justification of the sliver, the tailgate crappers, they started just getting anyone Christian, conservative, remotely controversial, and now it's kind of the opposite.
	By the way, the only people I know who use the term nutbar are you and Kevin O'Leary.
	You know, you're sounding like some kind of a left-wing nutbar.
	I'm out.
	That's what it sounds like.
	He's Canadian, too, isn't he?
	Yes, he is.
	He's conservative, but he's Canadian conservative.
	He's like, yes, and I don't think you need a gun clip with more than five bullets.
	You're like, wow, you know almost nothing.
	What do you want?
	You're a nut bar.
	By the way, in his interview with Dorsey, actually, Sam Harris, who I would love to have Sam Harris on the show, but I do find listening to his show sometimes painful.
	It can be very dull.
	But it doesn't mean it's not a good show.
	I just have to watch it.
	Sometimes it's out of necessity.
	Sam Harris pointed out that a liberal feminist, by the way, was banned for saying that men aren't women.
	Here you go.
	Megan Murphy, who... She's a feminist, but she's not sufficiently woke, apparently, on the transgender topic, and she wrote a tweet, which I believe read, men are not women, and got suspended over that tweet.
	Suspended right away.
	And not to tell my own substrate, when there was a clear, concerted campaign led by, as you mentioned, white supremacist websites, and of course they're acquiescent liberals on social media, to defame and paint me as a neo-Nazi with fake tweets like, gas the Jews, hang the n-words.
	Twitter, by the way, took no action to have those false, libelous tweets removed.
	That's important.
	They said that to repeat it.
	It's like the timeline with the FAQ from Cortez.
	It's like, what was the wrong one?
	You answered questions all day!
	All day long!
	I made a mistake all day long, okay?
	What do you want?
	Googly googly.
	I feel like she would fit right in Sesame Street in a trash can.
	Come out like, I'm trying to sleep in here!
	Well look, if you're going to talk about echo chambers, the Silicon Valley echo chamber is probably one of the worst.
	Too Cute Maddie, bring up the overlay here.
	The memes.
	Some of them remain up today, by the way.
	Repeated, targeted, libelous tweets.
	Tried to destroy the ability for everyone here to make a living.
	Didn't violate Twitter's policies.
	And by the way, they also tried to dox me.
	It just didn't work.
	And they're still up today.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, well, no, I was going to kind of mention that, too.
	Like, I understand if somebody wants to post something like that, like he said, that little sliver that's going to post something, as soon as you bring it up, it should be taken care of.
	That would be a level playing field, right?
	Hey, sorry, that's true.
	You're not that guy.
	We're going to pull it down.
	But they live in the Silicon Valley echo chamber.
	That's their echo chamber.
	They're like, well, I don't want this point.
	I don't want a Brexit echo chamber or a conservative.
	What do you think Mark and Susan would just say?
	Yeah, echo chambers are bad.
	They hear themselves from everywhere.
	There's a consensus.
	They don't understand that when they call us white nationalists, white nationalists get pissed and go, hey!
	We worked hard on this race thing!
	They're cucks!
	I hate that cuck!
	He's always cucking for shekels!
	He's a race-mixing Jew-lover who hangs out with gays.
	I don't like that guy!
	And it's sort of like 9-11, too, where they go, 9-11 was an inside job, and the terrorists go, hey!
	Hey!
	We busted our ass on that attack!
	Right!
	Taking down the Twin Towers.
	Martin Sheen is sitting there like, I'm pretty sure it was Dick Cheney.
	Dick Cheney with some bird shots.
	By the way, it's especially funny that Jack in that interview, Jack Dorsey, he mentions journalists.
	He specifies the importance of journalists since Twitter goes out of its way to ensure that the hypersensitive leftist journalists don't receive any criticism at all.
	Remember, people who jokingly tweeted, learn to code at the journalists were suspended Immediately!
	Record time!
	They were gone.
	Learn to code!
	That was the funniest thing that I had seen.
	I was just like, this is perfect.
	They're banning people for saying this, and that's what they said when it was, what, the Virginia Cole guys or something like that?
	They're banning people for acerbic wit now.
	There's no swear words in that.
	It's just a very succinct and mean thing to say.
	It's like if computers existed back in the time of Jack Benny.
	He'd be like, learn to code!
	It's also good advice.
	You know, they'd have better job security if they knew how to code.
	Jack, please, we would love to have you on this program.
	Of course we would be fair.
	Is it about preventing right-wing ideas and or science from spreading or is it about echo chambers?
	Let us know.
	I think another point that people really need to at least it needs to be illuminated is the reasons for the bans.
	Because Dorsey's been going around and And I want to know also, by the way, another question, how do you think the interviewers have treated him?
	I've heard a lot of people complain, saying that they thought he wasn't pressed enough by some of these podcasts, and then some people say that they think it's productive that he's on any podcast at all.
	I fall somewhere in the middle.
	I think it's productive if he's on a podcast, but not if he repeatedly lies and then switches.
	Those lies that, just kidding, I had my fingers crossed, which we'll get to in a little bit.
	Apparently we went back to Jack Benny here.
	I have my fingers crossed!
	I don't know what's happening.
	And nobody's calling him on it.
	I mean, it's kind of hard to call out the guy who is the gatekeeper, essentially, right?
	That's tough.
	But it's hard to call out people.
	Unless you're 60 Minutes, you're so happy to get a huge guest like that.
	I've got to be honest, if I had Jack Dorsey, I would spend the interview kissing his ass.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Probably physically, and then you would get fired.
	And then I might talk.
	Have you seen this video of Gavin kissing someone's ass?
	Like, oh yeah, it's Jack Dorsey!
	It's Jack.
	Let's draw the cheeks.
	It has like a million plays.
	Somebody photoshop that please.
	We're so mentally obese these days, and we're so bad at conflict, that when you get a good guest, and you hammer them, and you have a back and forth, you'll never get a liberal again, you'll never get a famous person again.
	So you have to sort of, it's like feeding a squirrel.
	You have to be like, thanks for coming on the show, Jack.
	Okay, you do your propaganda, and then I'll maybe cast aspersions after you leave.
	Right.
	I think this is an important point that kind of segues into the fact that Dorsey repeatedly said that Twitter should have been more clear about why people were banned, what the terms of service specified.
	Here he is explaining it.
	To realize that we're probably going to make some mistakes along the way and all we can do to
	correct some of that is just be open about where we are and that's probably where we've
	failed the most in the past is we just haven't been open about our thinking process, what led
	to particular decisions, how our terms of service evolved.
	This is the go-to. Whenever someone gets banned it's well if you read the terms of service you'd
	know why you were banned.
	But then if you ask them how a specific person violated the Terms of Service, they refuse to give an answer.
	Watch Dorsey do it right here!
	I'm not sure what the actual violations were, but we have a set number of actions.
	Megan Murphy wrote a tweet which I believe read, men are not women.
	The case that you brought up.
	I'm not sure what's behind it.
	I certainly don't believe it.
	How do you not know?
	You're talking about the Megan Murphy men are not women tweet?
	Is there a CEO I could talk to or something somewhere?
	How do you have no idea?
	What were you going to say, Kevin?
	You know, when I was banned, it said, you've been permanently suspended for semicolon space.
	And I'm like, what do you mean?
	The Abyss?
	What does that giant hole mean?
	They're going to find a reason to boot you.
	It doesn't matter what the terms are.
	By the way, him and Sam are like the two most monotone, low-key guys.
	It's like the Sweaty Balls sketch, only with men and there's no punchline.
	Yeah, they speak like cat burglars.
	You know what?
	I think it's upstairs.
	The jewelry's probably in the master bedroom.
	Like Cath Berkowitz.
	Ben Carson wouldn't get talked over on that show.
	You guys are gonna have to speak up because I can't understand everything you're saying.
	Really freaking boring.
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	I have to watch it?
	No, the whole point is we watch it so you guys don't have to.
	And I think Gavin might be at least making an appearance there.
	Oh, hell yeah!
	Oh, jeez, I didn't think you'd be that excited.
	I'm going to be at the Oscars.
	I was invited.
	I'm going to be in the front row sitting with a woman named Penelope Millions.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	This is an actual thing?
	Yeah, she rescued Harvey Weinstein's daughter from a fire.
	That's what she rescued her from?
	I'm going to be there for the Oscar for Worst Liar.
	I don't know what he's telling the truth!
	He's telling you that it's a joke.
	No, I knew that part.
	Yeah.
	I figured it out at the end.
	There was no fire, it was just Weinstein trying to rape.
	I was just hearing those words come out of my mouth going, well, that's what's going on.
	Lying is incredibly easy, as seen by Jack Dorsey.
	Here's the thing, the only thing that Jack has been consistent about is stressing that harassment campaigns are the most bannable offense, and I think, again, we all agree with that here.
	Yeah.
	But we've already seen that those campaigns don't apply to targeted, repeated libel of someone like myself, or Gavin, by the way, or a more recent example, the Covington School Kids.
	Celebrities were calling for the kids' addresses, wanting them to be harmed, because a kid smiled at a toothless meth head who was twice deferred, sorry, twice went AWOL as a veteran, was a refrigerator repairman, and was wearing a MAGA hat.
	They called for school shootings.
	They said it would be a great school to shoot up.
	And you know what?
	The Right doesn't do that.
	How many times has Dana Lash had to move?
	We can't show pictures of our kids.
	You look at Chris Hayes and Mark Ruffalo.
	They're all like, here's our kids.
	And I don't even say my kids' names.
	Plus all their kids look retarded.
	Let's be honest.
	They all look retarded.
	So Jack Dorsey, he also says, by the way, that he hasn't focused.
	Mark Ruffalo seems like the kind of guy who would call you up for that.
	He will, yeah.
	What's happening?
	I don't even know what your kids look like, but if they look like you, they haven't focused enough.
	From what he said, Dorsey, on the off-site ramifications of Twitter.
	Here's a clip.
	We haven't focused on enough.
	We haven't focused on the off-platform ramifications of what happens online.
	So basically, I didn't even need that clip because I told you.
	You're right, Jack Dorsey, you haven't.
	Because you've been more worried about journalists receiving slightly mean tweets or people making scientifically accurate claims that might offend, I don't know, 0.5% of the population.
	By the way, you miss ISIS recruiting, bomb threats, Antifa staging violent assaults on people because you were more worried about a Buzzfeed boldly bitch getting her feelings heard over a doctor pointing out her BMI of 76.
	This is what's been happening.
	We haven't really focused on the offset ramifications.
	Do you mean like doxxing kids from a school with a MAGA hat?
	That's in murky territory.
	I don't know the details of that particular case.
	I don't know.
	I'm going to seek my wise counsel.
	Zuckerberg!
	Wojcicki!
	Somebody!
	Cortez probably has private meetings.
	I think another point, obviously, is that people need to see here.
	In certain segments of these interviews, Jack actually kind of lets the mask slip.
	And the good thing is, we get to see, kind of like with the abortion laws, we now get to see the true agenda of Twitter.
	Where I want Twitter specifically to go is, you know, I think it's existential right now that we have global conversations about some things that will become crisis.
	Climate change being one of them.
	There's no one nation-state that's going to solve that problem alone.
	Economic disparity being another.
	The rise of AI and job displacement and just like us offloading decisions to these algorithms really puts the world at a disadvantage because it incentivizes more of the echo chambers which lead to things like nationalism instead of taking the broader picture.
	To put it simply, you could write a clickbait headline that reads, RADICAL GLOBALIST JACK DORSEY NOW PUSHING ANTI-HUMAN GREEN NEW DEAL AGENDA, and it would be accurate!
	It wouldn't actually be clickbait!
	That's what he's saying!
	And it's basically just propaganda that he's quoting.
	It's like, guys, there is a big debate on climate science right now, if it's changing as much as you say, and if we are the people that are actually causing it, or if it's the cows farting, according to AOC.
	It's not science!
	All right, we have to get moving on.
	But actually, I think what's important is in this final clip, Sam Harris got Jack Dorsey to admit that they're no longer trying to be neutral.
	Here he is saying it.
	I don't believe that we can afford to take a neutral stance.
	I don't believe that we should optimize for neutrality.
	I do believe that we should optimize for impartiality.
	What does that mean?
	I don't know what that means.
	To me, neutrality is a lot more passive, a lot more hands-off.
	I don't think we can just be, um, be this neutral passive platform anymore.
	Uh, he's just repeating himself.
	How long does this clip go?
	Yeah, let's just cancel it.
	He's contradicting himself.
	He is.
	We don't want to be neutral, uh, but we want to be Unfair.
	He's hoping everybody will be asleep.
	We want to ensure that fairness plays no role on our platform at all.
	I'm not sure he knows what he's talking about.
	Well, how did you do an interview with Joe Rogan for four hours?
	And so I don't know what that violation was.
	And it's really important that we have freedom of speech.
	And then you go out here and you say, uh, I don't remember the, I don't remember the timeline, which shows he did, but he would go on shows for hours and say, yeah, yeah, we want it to be an open platform for all.
	And then he was like, no, we don't.
	We lied.
	Remember Sonia Sotomayor, a Supreme Court judge?
	She goes, I should be a Supreme Court judge.
	I'm totally impartial.
	I'm going to be a great judge.
	Then she gets there and she goes, we would be lying if we didn't say that our background and our Hispanic heritage didn't affect our decisions.
	You're like, wait a minute.
	Your job as a judge is to not be a Hispanic woman.
	Right.
	To be just an impartial, you know, judge.
	Justice is blind.
	And then you have Jack Dorsey going, we are totally neutral here.
	We're just going to be impartial.
	Let everyone make their own decisions.
	And we obviously can't be neutral about that.
	When we do that, it'll be with a left-wing bend.
	I don't know.
	What do you think, Zuckerberg, Wojcicki, Helen Thomas?
	Send the Jews to Poland!
	What are you talking about?
	Why are you here?
	Go ahead.
	Basically, I think they just got scared.
	Trump won and Brexit happened.
	They're like, what the hell's going on?
	We can't be neutral anymore.
	It can't happen.
	No.
	And they won, by the way, just because people are getting a message out there of truth.
	That's what happened with Brexit.
	This idea that it was a lie, a good example.
	No!
	You know what a lie is?
	That some kid harassed a Native American toothless meth head who was twice deferred.
	Sorry, I went AWOL, refrigerator pair, man, from Vietnam because he had a MAGA hat.
	That is a lie!
	Not that there are benefits.
	To being an autonomous nation.
	This is a great example of what we've been talking about all week.
	The left fears transparency.
	They run from it.
	They check under their bed for it.
	So it's a good indicator, if someone tries to shut down transparency, that they're a leftist.
	Or a liar.
	But I repeat myself.
	And that's what we're seeing with Jack.
	It's not just Ocasio-Cortez.
	We were just talking about that yesterday.
	But this is in your deal.
	No, it's not.
	But you wrote it.
	I updated the wrong copy!
	Don't ask questions.
	I know nothing.
	This is Jack.
	This is what Jack is doing.
	Well, hold on a second.
	What's going on?
	Well, really, we should be more clear about our policies.
	Well, what are your policies?
	I don't really want to talk about that right now.
	Well, what do you think the policy should center on?
	Well, it should center on being neutral.
	Okay, so how are you going to be neutral?
	We don't want to be neutral.
	Do I need to shoot myself in the head with this, Walter?
	Because I don't want to get my sponsor into trouble.
	If you want to know what Silicon Valley is, just picture Bernie, Cory Booker, Ocasio-Cortez sitting in a boardroom deciding what can and cannot be said on the internet.
	That's what Silicon Valley is.
	The politicians, the far left politicians I should say, are just like the Silicon Valley tech executives.
	They use nice words like transparency, truth, safety, but whenever you ask them questions, they run for cover.
	You saw the same thing with Zuckerberg when he had to testify.
	You saw the same thing with Wojcicki.
	Remember back then?
	She's like, well, I think it's important that we have a neutral.
	Well, how are you gonna do that?
	Well, but we don't want hate speech.
	What's hate speech?
	I haven't had another meeting!
	I gotta get to go!
	Bye!
	When you start shining a light on these guys, they scurry back into the darkness.
	That's why there's no accountability.
	When we explain where we line up here, on every issue, and we're really clear.
	OK, Jack, we're not trying to attack you.
	We just want to put all the cards on the table.
	That's all we're asking for you.
	Let's not even go to the public utilities debate.
	But we've all agreed.
	We all agreed.
	We talked about this yesterday.
	You have to be honest about your business practices.
	You can't say we weren't clear about the terms of service, and then we say, well, what are the terms of service?
	I don't know.
	I don't even know.
	That's not what it can be.
	We just want to know where everyone stands on these platforms.
	But instead, they flip over the table and they throw the cards away.
	That's what Silicon Valley is.
	Ocasio-Cortez, Kamala... Now I'm doing it affected!
	Ocasio-Cortez, no.
	Ocasio-Cortez-y.
	I just want to say it in American.
	Camila Harris, Cory Booker in a boardroom.
	That's what it is.
	And now that you know, you just have to play by their rules or get kicked off the platform.
	Hey, social media, let freedom ring.
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	Yeah.
	Not where your pockets are.
	I mean, if you're an Eminem.
	Seems to me you're high.
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	Southern. Her website is Lauren Southern dot net. Just search her on YouTube and you will find her.
	She hasn't been banned yet. Her documentary Borderless actually has a new trailer out
	this week, I believe. Now you know who it is. Lauren Southern, thank you for being here.
	Thank you for having me. So there's so much that we were just talking during the break and you said
	so much has happened. It's kind of tough to pick a moment.
	But I know you've been making the rounds for your speech that you gave at the EU recently. Check it
	out.
	Changing My Mind on Immigration is what it was called.
	First off, how much of this was actually given as a speech in front of people versus, you know, like the green screen portion?
	Right, so I did the speech in front of about 50 MEPs.
	Of course, when you're at the EU, it's not necessarily about having a full room as much as it is about who is in the room and who is affecting governments and policies.
	But we did actually refilm the speech because the technology that they use for recording EU events is subpar, like anything that government does.
	Can we get her on the Logitech?
	That's usually how it works.
	Yeah, so the audio is a bit bad, but we redid it.
	Everything that I said in the speech in my YouTube video was exactly what I said to these politicians, and I think it came across quite well, because a lot of these politicians, I think, throw away right-wing arguments as just, oh, they're hateful, they're racist.
	But the speech I gave, if people have watched it, was actually on Completely from the immigrant's perspective.
	And that's what a lot of Borderless is.
	I'd say about 70% of the documentary is us just with the migrants on the ground, talking to them, asking them about their experiences, what it's been like.
	And something that I was so shocked to find on this trip was once we got to the European part of the documentary, actually with these migrants, once they've made it, we had A large amount of them telling us they wish they had never left home and they wish they could go back.
	That's something that I'd never seen on the news before.
	Well, how much of that is like they'd really rather go back to, you know, Syria where they're being burned alive in cages versus maybe a little lack of gratitude.
	I mean, I'm not saying the UK is that great, but it still seems better than Syria at this point.
	Well, this is the issue is I probably only met about 10 Syrians, if that, during the entire trip.
	I thought they were all Syrian Christians.
	My world is Topsy-Turvy now, Lauren.
	Educate me, please.
	It was very confusing, yes.
	The majority of people coming right now.
	So we actually Spent time on the Turkish side of the border waiting along the coast where it's just covered in just mess, clothing everywhere, dinghies, vests, like the evidence of the migration is insane.
	And we spent time like hiding from gendarme helicopters above us, so the Turkish police under Trees, with all these migrants, and every single one of them with us there, waiting for the boats to come to take them to Greece, was from Afghanistan.
	Once we got to the Greek side, most of the people in the camps were from... I mean, like I said, I met about 10 people from Syria.
	Right.
	The majority of them were from other places in the Middle East.
	Certainly Morocco would be on the Royal Subs here in Africa.
	The point remains, though, I would think that still London would be nicer than most of Afghanistan, but I don't know.
	Well, here's the issue, is because they don't want to be deported, human traffickers will tell them, throw your passport out, burn your passport.
	So they get to Europe, they have no ID, they don't really want to be identified because they're not actually refugees, a lot of them, or maybe they have criminal backgrounds, so they can't really apply for asylum.
	They can't really get jobs or work.
	Think about how long it takes to get an actual Immigrant visa can take like five six years
	So imagine how much longer it takes for people who have burnt their passports
	Have no ID and have no I way of proving who they are where they've come from
	So they just end up living under bridges. They effectively can't do anything. They can't live anywhere. They can't buy
	a house They can't work and they're sitting there thinking
	Why did Angela Merkel tell us refugees welcome?
	Why did the media tell us we should all come here?
	Why are these traffickers promising us paradise?
	Why am I living under a bridge?
	So they're blaming this on the right-wing trolls on Twitter, but their policies are creating actual bridge trolls.
	Yes, effectively.
	And that's the thing.
	A lot of these liberals think that compassion is just a one-time thing.
	They show up with these crocheted blankets, these refugees welcome signs.
	They change their profile picture to say hashtag refugees welcome.
	But where are they when these people are starving under bridges?
	Where are they when these people are completely packed in camps and can't be processed?
	It would have been so much better to just be honest with them and tell them, you know what?
	The European dream is a dream still for the European people.
	We've got lots of problems.
	You're probably not going to be processed for a while.
	If you're not a refugee, there's a good chance you're never going to be able to live anywhere or get a job or be processed.
	If we were just honest with these people, A lot of these issues, a lot of this issue with migration and human trafficking could be solved.
	And, even better, we would have more money and resources to help legitimate refugees, if we weren't inviting the world.
	Right.
	And I think it's a very important point that you make.
	And I do want to say, I know there was a man named, I think, Mohammed, who asked you a question, who talked about how he was concerned that this would be another right-wing hit piece.
	And how, I wouldn't, here's the thing, I wouldn't say even-handed, I know that you're more conservative.
	I think people watching know that you're more conservative.
	But you can have a personal bias and also try to look at an issue through a point of view accurately.
	And for people who don't know, it does seem that you've made an earnest effort to look at this from the immigrants, from the migrants, from the refugee, from the asylum seekers, whatever term you want to use that day, okay?
	I don't want to be hooked on this with this project.
	And I did want to ask you, because you said to this person, you said, well, thank you for noticing.
	I have kind of transitioned from the kind of shocking-in-your-face trolling journalism to what I'm doing now.
	I will say this.
	I've noticed that.
	And I'm impressed by it.
	Why?
	What was the catalyst for that?
	Well, I think that there was a place for the shocking conversations just saying like, feminism
	is cancer, just to get yourselves out there, because there was no real right wing conversation
	going on before the Trump era for the anti-feminist stuff, for the anti-socialism stuff.
	And we kind of needed to just bring ourselves into the conversation at all, because we had
	been completely excommunicated from the media, excommunicated from classroom discussions.
	And we just said, well, Let's shock them.
	Let's shock them to get ourselves into the conversation.
	Now we've kind of got a foot in the door in popular culture.
	Young people are watching conservative media more and more.
	You've got PewDiePie, H3H3, all these big names finally talking about how insane the left has become.
	So there was a place for it then, but I think that the shock stuff has had the effect that it is going to have and convinced as many people as it's going to convince.
	And now we need to get back to some serious Hard evidence, statistics, long-form stuff.
	I do think everyone has a different place.
	There's always going to be a place for that shock stuff.
	I still enjoy it.
	I still enjoy watching when people do it.
	But there's definitely an opening or vacuum for people to make documentaries and longer-form conservative discussion.
	Because if we just get into the troll-style stuff, then conservatism and right-wing ideology for young people isn't going to be taken too seriously.
	And there are people yearning for more than that.
	Right, I think that's a good point.
	Now, I guess my question is, why did you, since you say there's a place for both, and I agree with you, why did you feel personally led to moving on to kind of this chapter?
	Because it is different, and it's obviously, I do think it's productive, and I agree with you, there's a place for both, but you've decided for yourself, this is what you want to do.
	Is there a specific reason that you said, for me, this is my priority now?
	Honestly, I have never been a Professor of anything.
	I'm not an expert.
	I'm 23 years old.
	I'm not gonna pretend I know everything.
	So, for the things that I do know, and the things that I could speak on, I have given my opinion.
	I've said my thoughts on feminism, I've said my thoughts on immigration, socialism, whatever it may be, I've given my opinion.
	And I realized that the only way I could continue Doing YouTube is if I were just repeating myself for the sake of having a YouTube career, and I didn't want to do that.
	Like talking into a camera in a car, owning libs.
	Isn't it funny that people who claim they're intolerant are actually, they claim they're intolerant, they're intolerant.
	Did you know free speech is good, right?
	I've said it.
	I've made my point.
	And if I want to actually do something that I feel is contributing and I don't feel like I'm just doing for the sake of having a career, because this was never, when I started, this was never about making a career out of this.
	I wasn't getting paid to make videos initially.
	It wasn't a job for me.
	I just actually believed in it.
	So if I wanted to still do something that I believed in, well, I was going to have to dive a little deeper and go on the ground.
	And because I'm not an expert, the thing that I can offer is I can go on the ground, and I'm crazy enough to go and actually see these things for myself and bring back some of the footage for everyone else to analyze.
	Right.
	But you're a little more mature now in that you bring security with you.
	Remember last time I spoke with you, you said, Lauren, don't do this without serious security.
	Because at one point, we had some conversations.
	You're like, no, I'll be fine.
	I'm like, no, no, listen.
	It's cute when you're young.
	Once I became a husband, I realized, like, no, no, I'm not going to do this and just run the risk, and we don't want to see you get hurt.
	But, you know, I really appreciate you saying that, because what you're basically talking about doing here, correct me if I'm wrong, is learning with the audience, and learning, hopefully, accurately and earnestly.
	Now, picture this.
	You've never done any of this, never done any of the fundraising, never worked for any other company, never worked a real job in your life.
	Obviously, you've done all those things, but picture if you hadn't, And you're a congresswoman.
	That's Cortez.
	Cortez was in that phase where she thought she knew everything, and she now runs a portion of our government.
	That's what's scary.
	So I hope people tear a page from your book.
	And you know what?
	That's a stressful thing personally as well.
	Like, I guarantee Cortez wakes up and is aware of that at times.
	Because if you keep up a facade of knowing everything and pretending you know everything, and you don't, that is personally And mentally, just really, really difficult, because you know you'll never actually live up to that standard.
	So I wonder if Cortez wakes up in the morning thinking, damn, I have to put on this mask and keep this act up.
	Right.
	He's like, I can't make enough sex on the beaches.
	My bartending school didn't help me at all.
	I don't know how to balance a budget unless it's a lime wedge in someone's navel cavity.
	Let me ask you this.
	You say we have more resources.
	Going back to borderless, there's a transition.
	You say we have more resources to fix this problem.
	Do you offer a solution, or do you have some ideas as to how we could solve the problem?
	Because I know everyone thinks they're compassionate, but like you said, once the dust settles, those compassionate people, and we're all compassionate, but I mean the compassionate leftists, disappear.
	How do you think we could handle this in a way that would be even-handed, or effective, or best use of funds?
	The thing I'm becoming increasingly more aware of is that there are no solutions, there are only trade-offs.
	There are better options than others, but in this case, I would say it is the most compassionate thing to everyone involved to be honest about what is going on.
	Because right now, the only people that are benefiting from us telling migrants, come to Europe, you've got a place here, open borders, look at all these migrants, they're playing on the Olympic teams, they're going to the Vatican with the Pope, they're shaking Merkel's hand, they're shaking Trudeau's hand, look at the life they get to live.
	And then that's not reality.
	The only people who benefit from that are human traffickers.
	How big of an industry is that, by the way?
	I know you've talked about this.
	Yeah, so when we were in Morocco, we spoke to people about how much it costs.
	It costs about 2,000 euros, 1,000 to 2,000 euros to cross the small areas to the Greek islands.
	And then from Morocco, it's 2,000 to 5,000 euros.
	And they're shoving like 50 people on one of these boats.
	And they're sending out tons of boats every single day.
	So think about how much money these people are making per month.
	They're making millions, millions and millions and millions of dollars through this.
	So of course they love the media.
	They love when they say refugees welcome.
	They love when they say come here and as soon as you touch European land in the Schengen zone, you can shop around for your welfare country of your choice.
	And when you talk to these people in the mountains of Morocco, they genuinely believe.
	They're like, when I get to London, I'm going to be a rapper.
	I'm going to be a football star.
	I'm going to be this, that, and the other.
	They actually believe Europeans live in a paradise, or people in the Western world live in a paradise, because that's what they see on the internet.
	Right.
	And, of course, the traffickers are going to tell them that as well.
	They aren't told the truth.
	How do you think we get them the truth?
	Because, like you said, a lot of them are burning their passports, their identification, because these traffickers are telling them so.
	How do we reach those people before the traffickers?
	How do you think people can most effectively cut that off at the pass?
	Well, one big issue is you've got these NGOs that are out patrolling the waters and picking up Right.
	people and bringing them into Europe. So that's their first indication that, of course, we're
	welcome. Europeans have sent out boats to come and pick us up and bring us into Europe.
	Of course they want us there. And then, of course, once those NGOs let them go into Europe,
	they're completely on their own and they have nowhere to be.
	And of course, they're going to become criminals and do horrible things because they
	have no identity, no job, nothing to do. So if we shut down these NGOs, you will see the
	biggest route into Europe used to be the Libyan. The biggest one has been the Greece route.
	But Libya to Italy was one of the largest ones as well. Now it's almost completely
	shut down. The first two months of this year, only 50 people have come from Libya to Italy
	because the Italians shut down their ports to these non-government organization ships
	picking people up.
	Of course, the drownings have also completely stopped from Libya to Italy because people are no longer taking a reckless journey when they know they're not going to be welcome.
	Yeah.
	So you've stopped people from drowning, you've stopped people from living under bridges, you've stopped a giant human trafficking ring that are genuinely also enslaving people and using people as mules for drugs and weapons into Europe.
	So I'd say if you shut down a lot of these NGO boats and the incentives to come,
	that's a good start. And I would imagine that there are several other solutions and tradeoffs,
	at least offered in the film borderless. People can see that trailer on your YouTube channel this
	week. You know, it's not all too dissimilar for what's happening here in the southern border in
	the United States. I don't know if you watch the State of the Union address, but when President
	Trump mentioned the sex trafficking, all the women who are wearing white for women's rights,
	you know, Cortez said that she was sitting until she looked and everyone was standing up clapping
	like, I guess I don't hate Donald Trump that much. I'll get up. I won't clap for being anti
	I'm sitting there going, you're wearing white for women's rights?
	We should all be on board with, if nothing else, if you're even the biggest libertarian on the planet where you think heroin should be legal, great!
	You still probably have to be against sex trafficking, against one's will, because not even willing prostitution!
	And Cortez, and I don't know who else, wearing white.
	They looked like it was the Bee Gees album.
	They didn't stand up.
	Alright, Lauren, where's the best place for people to find you and see more info on this documentary?
	Everything will be posted on my Twitter, at Lauren underscore Southern, and there will be a new trailer up this week, so stay tuned there.
	All right.
	Trailer, not a teaser.
	That means it's more substantive.
	No, no, this one is a proper trailer.
	It's got some meat to it.
	This is a proper trailer, and LaurenSouthern.net.
	Hopefully Jack Dorsey doesn't ban you.
	Thank you so much for being here.
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	It is the drowning dance, though.
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	Let us know what you think, how much you enjoyed Gavin in third chair.
	We have a bunch of people, obviously, who come in in third chair.
	I think we have Pentelis next week.
	Pentelis.
	I think it's next week or maybe the week after.
	I don't know.
	He's coming in.
	Sooner or later we're going to have some kind of more prominent people.
	We're just trying.
	And then sometimes people come in in third chair.
	We've had some big names who then get in trouble and can't come back, even though we love them.
	There was something else that I was going to say.
	Next week is a big hidden camera video.
	Yes.
	Going up Tuesday.
	Potentially, I don't know, you know, we don't know what footage exactly that we have because we have about four or five different hidden cameras.
	Yeah, still going through it.
	But I know what we do have at least on audio and it's It's something that we didn't expect, so that's a big video on Tuesday.
	We'll probably do a show Monday, not entirely sure, and of course Wednesday, Thursday, and we're going to have some new Change My Minds coming up.
	I want to kind of warn people before, you know, usually these closing segments are, I guess, uplifting or helpful.
	It was branded by some fans, Crowder Closes, and so now we use that on YouTube.
	Thank you for the idea.
	But I want to warn anyone there who is having a good time, I don't want to ruin your day.
	This one is a little bit sad.
	Hopefully helpful.
	So, you know, if you need to grab some time or come back to this later.
	3, 2, there you go, spoiler alert.
	I know I talked about this on social media this week, that Hopper, of course who you know, and Hopper, he's been on the show quite a bit, was diagnosed with cancer lymphoma cancer so it's been a very hard week for us it is you know listen here's the thing I've debated going I've gone back and forth whether I should even talk about this because we don't know he could live a longer time you know he's a ten-year-old dog and he may not
	Depends on how he responds to treatment.
	Depends on how aggressive it is.
	And it was a real roller coaster ride because we got this on Friday, this news.
	And then we went to the oncologist and they said, hey, we actually don't think that's what it is.
	And so we felt so good, like a weight was lifted.
	And then we found out yesterday that that is what it was.
	And they said, maybe it's not the fast moving cancer.
	And it is the fast moving lymphoma cancer.
	And I know it's people it's always a cop-out where people try to talk about and I just want to talk about things so people don't feel alone But I do know with millions of listeners out there people are tuning in there probably people going through a similar situation I want to be clear about something here.
	I know that a man For whom the hardest thing they've ever experienced is their dog with cancer has lived a charmed life.
	It's not lost on me, okay?
	I want to make sure that I understand that.
	I'm not equivocating losing a dog.
	And by the way, he may not.
	We don't know what's going to happen.
	We don't know how long he's going to be here.
	But I did feel that since he's been an active part of the show that I owed it to you to talk about this now.
	And when it does happen, when he's not with us anymore, we're not going to do another clothing segment on this.
	I wanted to talk about this now so that you didn't feel lied to, because I know that Hopper out there has 20, 30,000 followers on Twitter.
	We don't even know who runs that account.
	And by the way, whoever runs the Hopper accounts out there, obviously when When the final chapter is written, I'd appreciate if you just kind of close it down because I don't want to have to look at that.
	So I understand that someone who's been through something like this saying it's the hardest thing that they've been through, they've lived a very charmed life.
	This has absolutely been the hardest thing that I've ever experienced.
	And I try to be honest, as honest as I can with you, these last two years have been some of the hardest of my life.
	And this is the hardest thing I've been through.
	I've lost relatives.
	I've lost friends.
	I've had friends who were taken too young.
	I know this doesn't compare to losing children.
	My dad had melanoma.
	It doesn't mean that I don't love my father more.
	It doesn't mean that I understand the value of human life is greater than a dog.
	That's not it.
	But Hopper is, outside of my wife, the living being on this earth that I gave more of myself to than any other person
	on this planet.
	My best friend is dying.
	And there's no more honest way to express it.
	Um, I don't know, this is the kind of, you know what?
	F*** it, I don't care.
	Someone will take that and turn it into a meme of a p***y. I don't, you know what?
	I'll walk away from this before I ever actually have to feel ashamed of the fact that I'm emotional over the fact, emotional over losing...
	A good friend.
	And I know it'll be used against me.
	I know that'll turn into a meme.
	Whatever.
	And I've talked about this.
	I don't think that men need to not cry.
	I just don't think you need to cry at every single thing that bothers you.
	I don't think you need to cry because someone called you a name.
	This is when men often cry.
	Let me kind of give you some information on Hopper because you see him, but you don't You don't really know the whole story.
	I prayed for Hopper.
	I really did.
	My whole life.
	And he's really been a gift in my life and in my family's life.
	And he's been the best gift.
	And I poured so much of myself.
	I never had a dog growing up.
	And I wanted one.
	I begged.
	I pleaded for one.
	I had all the dog books.
	I watched the dog shows on TV.
	I knew every breed.
	I knew all the training methods.
	But I couldn't have one because I was raised in an apartment.
	And by the way, this is going to come back to something that's hopefully helpful for people out there.
	So you don't just need to shut it off because it's sad.
	There's a purpose to this.
	And I learned a lot this week.
	It's not that cheesy, this dog taught me more about... It's almost like this dog was rescuing me.
	It's not that.
	But I did learn a lot this week.
	Couldn't have a talk when I grew up because I was raised in an apartment.
	A little three-bedroom on Reed Street on the south shore of Montreal.
	You can run a search on that right now and see the silver spoon with which I was raised.
	Once I'd been married for a couple of years, I decided that I was going to fulfill a dream.
	And see, at this point in time, I should clarify, I'd parted ways with Fox News, I'd sold some script rights, I was getting burnt out with stand-up, I was in western Michigan, Kind of floundering.
	I was depressed.
	I talked... I'm going to grab some water here real quick, so those who are listening to rest, really sorry.
	It's just my mouth is drier than usual.
	Keep it real, man!
	People would say, they're not actually keeping it real.
	They'd be crying if they were.
	I was depressed, and I've talked about this before.
	My wife didn't fully know how depressed I was, because I'd be up Before her in the morning, and I'd be off to the gym before she left for work.
	And after the gym, I didn't know where I was headed.
	In my life, I didn't know where I was headed.
	I just knew that I had to keep moving.
	But I decided that it was the right time to fulfill a lifelong dream.
	I wanted my whole life, I wanted to have a dog.
	Again, I know it sounds silly, but when you're a kid and all you want is a dog and you cannot have a dog, it's a big deal.
	So around Christmas time, five years ago, six years ago, I started looking on Petfinder.
	And I actually became a volunteer at a local non-kill shelter, which required a certain level of training to even begin with.
	I had the books, I watched the training videos.
	and I was going to be the best dog owner ever.
	Hopper popped up on Pet Finder, and I remember the lady bringing him to our house,
	and he was so nuts that first time I met him with energy because he'd been in a crate for so long.
	And by the way, I want to make sure no one thinks that this, she was not abusing the dog.
	She ran a rescue with her best friend, and she lost her best friend to cancer.
	Melania, this has been a crappy 2019.
	One of my wife's best friends just got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, and obviously now with,
	it's just, it's been a rough few months, but I'm still grateful.
	It's a day above ground, and there are people who have it a whole lot worse.
	So people out there who have it worse don't think that I'm comparing my plight to yours.
	There's a lady who ran the shelter.
	Anyway, that's what I was talking about She had a friend who ran it with her and not a shelter a rescue So they ran it out of their house, but her friend died cancer.
	And so she was overwhelmed and And she had to crate a lot of the dogs, because not all dogs get along.
	And Hopper had always been a people dog.
	He's a super easy dog.
	I mean, you know this.
	Oh, yeah.
	As long as he's around his people.
	The reason he's not in here now, by the way, no, he's not dead.
	People are like, where's Hopper?
	It's just because there are other people around right now.
	He'd rather be in the room where the most amount of people are.
	But he doesn't do well in a crate.
	So he came in the house, he was buzzing around like crazy.
	He immediately rolled over, put his paw on me, and, you know, licked my face.
	But my wife and I, remember, we decided that we weren't just going to take the dog in our first meeting.
	We were going to talk about it.
	We were going to be disciplined.
	Which, I remember the rescue lady seemed really surprised.
	And I felt bad because she made a decent trip out to us.
	It was a little ways.
	I mean, she shouldn't have been so surprised.
	At that point, she was effectively bringing a fat, three-legged, balding, alopecia dog with Lyme disease.
	She was like, we'll take it!
	But he wasn't always the Hopper that you see today.
	But I told her we'd give her an answer the following day.
	Like I said, this is hopefully going to tie back in.
	This is me taking time for me here.
	But we really had already decided.
	The next day we drove out, we meet her.
	We meet this lady between our place and her place.
	Took him in our old Explorer.
	Was it the Taurus? I don't know. He ripped the steering wheel off the Taurus when we took him to an outdoor
	shooting range.
	We parked a mile away and he still heard it. He took the steering wheel off of our Taurus.
	Um I remember she told us that first night. She told us that
	we had to crate him.
	That no matter how much he wailed, no matter how much he complained, that just stick it through.
	Uh, you got to put him in the crate. Well that night he howled.
	I mean, this dog howled.
	I came down the next morning to find the crate.
	It looked like the shark cage in Jaws, after it had been torn apart by the real shark.
	They inserted documentary film footage in that.
	It was broken down.
	He'd thrown up.
	He pooped in there.
	And my wife and I were actually on our way to the Rite Aid for earplugs to prepare for the next night.
	Because, well, we've got to stick this through.
	When we came back, we realized that we hadn't crated him.
	But he was just sleeping in his bed.
	Fine.
	Maybe he doesn't need it.
	So we went to church.
	Came back, was in his bed.
	Didn't so much as nibble a shoelace.
	Went to go see Captain America.
	I don't remember which one it was at that point.
	Came back, same.
	And we've never really had a problem with him ever since.
	We haven't had to crate him.
	He got into the trash every now and then.
	That's because my wife left a Slim Jim on the top of the trash at one point, and it was open, and so he just thought, oh, the trash is a place I go for Slim Jims.
	I do, I do.
	Why wouldn't you?
	If it's on the top, you just pull a Costanza.
	But it is funny because When I heard what the doctor said, I really could remember everything.
	It's one of those things where people say your life flashes before your eyes, but when you're about to lose something really important, everything that's important about that person, that thing, floods every part of your brain.
	Things that I didn't even know were in there, from how I used to sleep on the bed next to my desk in our den.
	Back when we did the show, and it was in a den, he was right next to my desk every single day.
	I used to ram his head if the door was closed, just boom!
	You'd hear him crying.
	And I remember serving him sardines on the old front porch and trying to eat them myself and almost throwing up.
	I remember teaching him to sit, to stay.
	And I remember taking him out to run out by the old East Grand Rapids High School track, taking him up north for the first time.
	And particularly I remember that second night, after the first night with the crate, I remember him just falling asleep in my wife's arms on the futon like he'd known her his whole life.
	And he's done it ever since, every single night.
	And I had to be on a schedule for Hopper.
	I had to live for something else who was completely dependent on me.
	And that's why I think this is so hard, because he can't tell us, you know, that he's in pain.
	That's what's so hard.
	You have to make a decision out of wanting to avoid cruelty, and sometimes you have to make a decision that is to end the life of someone or something you care so much about.
	But at this point, I remember, it gave me a purpose.
	It made me more of an adult.
	And Hopper makes me happy.
	He makes me really happy.
	And sometimes in life, you can picture flashpoint moments that cut deeper than you've ever felt in your life.
	In that moment, those words are burned into your memory, etched into the walls of your soul forever.
	And when we found the news, I remember my wife tearing up and she said,
	she said that she just wanted to bottle everything up about Hopper, that there is, and just carry it.
	She said that she just wanted to bottle up everything that was about Hopper
	and just carry it with her forever.
	And that's exactly how I feel.
	And I feel terrible that there's nothing I can do to help my wife, too.
	That's something that's terrible.
	They talk about toxic masculinity.
	Listen, it doesn't come from having to prove myself.
	It comes from loving my wife, from trying to provide for my wife, from wanting to burden that pain of my wife, because we're called to do that.
	As men, as Christians, as believers in God, yet believers in Christ, it's really painful, not just losing your best friend, but knowing how much pain your wife is in.
	and there's nothing you can do. Some people get some great gifts in their lives,
	and Hopper really was the best gift.
	I can talk about this a little bit.
	You know, everyone always says their dog is special.
	And I'm sure that's true to an extent.
	But believe me, when I say that Hopper really is special, he changed lives.
	And I see people like, oh, I miss my dog, and it's just a dog that's, you know, crapping around the house, and they have no relationship with, there's no peace in the house.
	No, Hopper was, he changed lives.
	I don't just mean that in the sense that, oh, he changed our lives, or he brought love into the house.
	He changed people's lives.
	Ask anyone on the team.
	He's probably changed a lot of your lives.
	Ask anyone who's come to visit.
	People who don't even like dogs loved Hopper.
	My aunt, who was terrified of dogs, loved Hopper.
	Wanted to get a dog because of Hopper.
	Kids, who were terrified of dogs, loved Hopper.
	He didn't always love them back.
	That's the one thing, Hopper, with the kids who were rambunctious, whacking him.
	He would walk away, but if he walked away and you followed him, you'd see the growl.
	You saw the Hodge twins, good example, on this show, Freak, when I introduced them to Hopper.
	One of the funniest things I've ever seen.
	I about passed out in the show laughing.
	They were terrified.
	What you didn't see was the next time they came over to my house and Hopper was there, they were sitting and petting Hopper.
	Even just this last time.
	Because he was such a peaceful dog.
	And he's, by the way, I shouldn't say he was, he is.
	Such a calm dog, and such a loving dog, that he would change people's hearts and views on dogs.
	He had a gift, genuinely, of melting away fear.
	And they wanted to make him a therapy dog, until we found out that he didn't like sunglasses.
	If you were wearing sunglasses, he might mess you up!
	So thank God we didn't make him a therapy dog, but that's why.
	And going through this, and it being the most painful thing I've experienced, I'm ashamed to say that at one point, I actually just thought, when this was just happening, and there was this blinding pain, the worst part was not knowing what was happening, right?
	That's what's sometimes worse, is the anticipation of what actually happens.
	Not knowing the answer, whether it was the aggressive cancer, or whether it was a slow-moving cancer.
	At one point, I actually just thought of wanting to have Betty, our new puppy, adopted.
	Not because I don't love Betty, but because I thought, I just can never go through this again.
	I thought, I'll do anything to avoid this kind of pain again, at all costs.
	And then I I realized how stupid and ungrateful I was.
	I probably never felt more ashamed of myself in my life that I was taking a gift that I'd prayed for my whole life, all my childhood, and I was spitting on it.
	Why?
	Because I didn't get to keep it forever?
	Because as much as it hurts, I've gained so much more.
	And I really hope that for a three-legged dog with alopecia and Lyme disease, he would say that.
	I hope that I gave enough.
	And I realized that I felt that way before.
	Not just about Hopper, I felt that way with this show, where things got so hard that I wanted to throw it all away.
	Anything to avoid the hell that I was going through at that point ever again.
	But I've gained so much more.
	You have given me so much more.
	And in the same way, I can only hope that I've given enough.
	So, the takeaway tonight, and it's a cliché, I know, but sometimes a tale as old as time is that way for a simple reason, and that's because it's true.
	I've talked about it before, it's nothing new, but genuinely, be grateful.
	And something else, too, I noticed we were... sometimes you're really praying and begging for something more than you'll have gratitude for when you actually get what you ask for.
	Because when we were praying, please, please, we just don't want this to be aggressive cancer, and then they told us it probably wasn't.
	We said, wow, we really, really need to be thankful here.
	Now then, that was taken away from us because it turned out that it was.
	They went back and forth.
	Get your facts straight, Svet!
	No, they're good vets.
	They couldn't know.
	He's a weird dog.
	He's tough to examine.
	But sometimes you pray for miracles and then don't believe that they'll happen.
	And I also noticed that pain doesn't, we used to say misery loves company.
	I don't think it's that so much as pain doesn't love to be alone.
	We were at the vet and when we got that good news at the oncologist, I remember there was a lady there with her dog, Leah, who had mesothelioma and wasn't doing so well.
	And we told her about Hopper and we went in and that was at the point when they gave us better news.
	And we came out and She said, yeah, what, and she seemed upset.
	She said, what news did you get?
	And, uh, we could tell she was upset and we said, yeah, you know, it's, it's not good.
	We had just received great news, but we realized that she would feel more alone if we said, yeah, great news.
	And her dog was probably not going to make it with mess with him.
	It was really rough.
	It was pretty far along.
	Um, because pain just doesn't want to be alone.
	And that's why I'm sure I try to be as transparent as possible.
	By the way, sharing something for the sake of sharing a Jordan Peterson's talk doesn't help anybody.
	If it's not something good.
	A lot of people just share sin.
	A lot of people share their faults and don't offer a solution.
	Like, well, I just don't want you to feel alone!
	And so they talk about mental health issues or drugs.
	Well, hold on, do you have a solution to it?
	Otherwise, you're not helping.
	But sharing pain, the kind of pain that everyone goes through, it really does help people in knowing that they're not alone.
	But if we're going to have one takeaway this week, and now I'm just sort of circling the runway, I guess, it really is simple.
	Be grateful.
	If you've got a gift, appreciate it.
	Share it.
	Because most gifts, nearly all gifts, aren't forever.
	And just because it's not forever, just because at some point it may hurt, it doesn't mean that it's not a gift.
	And you don't have the right to throw it all away.
	So I'll keep you updated.
	Follow me on Instagram, and we'll talk about that.
	Sorry, I was... I'll see you next time.

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