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#433 WHY TRUMP WINS RE-ELECTION | Gavin McInnes and Hodgetwins | Louder With Crowder

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	Does John Woo still make films?
	We have G. Morgan Jr.
	with us.
	What's the wine of the day, sir?
	Wine of the day, Lacadran.
	Okay, I don't know where Black Garrett is here.
	It doesn't really matter that much, because we have real black people here, according to 23andMe, the Hodge twins.
	Well, actually, I'm only 54% black.
	You're 54% black?
	Just made to cut.
	And I assume you are also 54% black, unless there's something happened with the mailman. 53.
	With 53.8.
	Oh, you stole some of this DNA.
	You guys have some shows coming up, right?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Where are you going?
	We're going to Detroit.
	Not really Detroit.
	We're going to Royal Oak.
	Can't go to Detroit.
	I don't feel good there.
	We go to Phoenix, Arizona and Chicago.
	And do you have any channels at Conservative Twins?
	Yeah, on YouTube, Conservative Twins.
	And, hold on a second, just been informed in my ear that it's been demonetized.
	We have Gavin McInnes on the show today and we'll be talking about why Trump will be re-elected.
	I really think he's going to be re-elected.
	So that brings me to the question of the day.
	What would you say the odds are of President Trump being re-elected?
	Do you think it depends on his opponent?
	Who in the field, I guess, do you see now or who could emerge in the next two years do you think will beat him?
	I'm curious to hear what you think.
	Um, we'll talk about that a little bit more.
	Leading news, of course, is the current political drama in Virginia, which now includes the Attorney General and a Congressman.
	All the while there are still continued calls for Governor Northam to resign.
	And I believe the Governor, if I'm not mistaken, is actually holding a press conference to address the latest controversy right now.
	Yeah, we go to it now.
	Alright, now everyone please settle down.
	First question, yes.
	Yeah, what do you say to people asking for your resignation, Governor Northam?
	Well, you're always going to have critics, and all I can say is that that definitely, in the pictures, I've said on the record, was not a me!
	And I'd like to move on to much more pressing.
	Are you doing Michael Jackson again?
	Okay, guys, you've got to stop with the gotcha journalism here.
	It's what's dividing our country.
	I stand before you today, an honest man, and totally focused on the man in the mirror.
	He's definitely doing Michael Jackson.
	That's really racist.
	Alright guys, listen.
	You have to stop lobbing the accusation of racism.
	Okay?
	That's what we're facing here in politics.
	It's divisive and I'm telling you that I don't care if you are black or white!
	No further questions.
	Almost seems like it's a little tone deaf.
	Little bits.
	So let's recap.
	This is by the way your home state.
	Virginia.
	Good old Virginia.
	Good old Virginia.
	Usually I think people think West Virginia when they think about the things that I'm going to... No!
	Just Virginia regular.
	To recap, we have, what, the Northam, obviously, blackface photo.
	The Attorney General announced that he, too, wore blackface at a party once.
	He felt compelled to announce it, apparently.
	Serious allegations, for those who don't know, of rape against the Lieutenant Governor in 2004, which were ignored, by the way, from a Democratic congressman for over a year.
	We go now live to a recently called Emergency Virginia State Democrat Convention.
	Oh, my God!
	Jesus Christ!
	Jesus Christ!
	Oh, Jesus!
	Dumpster fire!
	It really is.
	It's absolutely a dumpster fire.
	Whoever is the next in the line of succession, like if these guys go out, is just sitting there waiting for the other shoe to drop.
	Because there's, what, three people in line right now in succession.
	The governor, lieutenant governor, and then what was the other person?
	You said the AG or something like that.
	Somewhere is Robert Berg saying, so you're saying there's a chance.
	But it's great.
	It's an absolute dumpster fire.
	I did not think of Virginia as this racist of a place.
	Did you guys grow up with this?
	Oh man, it's like...
	That's like, we have KKK parades through our city.
	It's like once a year.
	In the front yard, you see all these black-faced mannequins, little statues.
	Yeah, everywhere.
	But you guys are in your 30s.
	Uh, no.
	Black don't crack, especially when it's shoe-polished on.
	In a more wholesome story, a three-year-old, is everyone okay?
	Are we okay?
	It's all right.
	I found out before the show, we weigh the exact same.
	Yeah, but they look much better.
	A three-year-old boy was lost in the woods, and he apparently hung out with a bear for two days.
	This comes from Sky News.
	Casey Hathaway was found by search and rescue teams in North Carolina after people heard him calling for his mother.
	The boy claims that the bear helped him forage for berries, learn how to hibernate, and gave him the inside skinny on NASA's fake moon landing.
	Yeah, so it seems as though...
	Hold on, I think we're getting a call.
	What's that?
	I don't know why people are able to call during this show.
	Crowder!
	Why won't you answer my phones?
	I've called you like 80 times!
	No, that's not- Call me back, dude!
	What the fu- I'm cutting it off.
	I'm cutting him off.
	I'm cutting him off.
	Oh my gosh.
	We have to move on as though the show was going really well.
	Well right now we're turning to our Eye on India.
	Can I spend a lot of India in there, India?
	You guys been there?
	Never been.
	It's not a real hot spot for you guys to go to?
	We got a hot fan base on Facebook, New Delhi.
	Really?
	They got ISIS out there.
	I don't know, flick us the Hodge Twins and chop their head off.
	Just one show and done.
	Do you have a lot of Indian fans?
	You said that your fan base is significant.
	Really?
	Yeah, it was the one Indian guy here in Dallas who was so annoyed.
	Hodge Twins!
	I'm from India!
	I love you guys!
	Yeah, I remember that.
	That was funny.
	Oh, you saw him, right?
	Yeah, I saw him.
	He was like, I am from India.
	I love you.
	But he kept, like, ragging on you the whole show.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He was giving you crap, or was he supporting you, heckling?
	He was supporting us.
	That's sometimes more annoying, because you can't shut him down because people think you're a jerk.
	He's like, I just love what you are doing!
	I think it's great for the country!
	Please continue!
	And you're like, and I will.
	Yes, please do!
	I am in support!
	Right here!
	You need anything, please stop!
	I will not stop!
	I am here for you!
	All night!
	Because I like you!
	You are the one who looks like he knows the deal!
	Can I offer you this thingamajig that I have here?
	They bargain a lot!
	One thing I've noticed with Indian people is you agree on a price and then they decide to negotiate.
	I don't know why.
	That's really true?
	It's a cultural thing and I don't like it.
	Doesn't mean I don't like Indians, I just don't like that component of the Indian people.
	So an Indian man is suing his parents True story, because he didn't consent to being born.
	Raphael Samuel is a so-called child-free advocate who believes children shouldn't be made to suffer life and thinks parents don't have the right to give birth if a child has not agreed to it.
	Well, don't worry, Mr. Samuel, Governor Northam has your back.
	I think you two are on the same page.
	That's extending abortion a little far.
	I don't think so.
	Late term.
	If it's, they will have a discussion about it.
	Midlife abortion, really?
	Midlife.
	Come on.
	That's what's going to happen in Virginia.
	No more midlife crisis, just midlife abortion.
	Finally, in another story, before we get to Donald Trump, why he'll be re-elected, the new emojis were announced on Tuesday.
	If you'll follow this by the Unicode Consortium is a thing, and they claimed that they were focusing mainly on accessibility and representation This is a quote from them.
	The next batch features an array of inclusion-themed symbols like a woman and a man in a wheelchair, several new variations of people holding hands, and a period emoji.
	Whoa.
	OK.
	Yeah, that's a real thing, the period emoji.
	What does that look like?
	Well, apparently it needs to be celebrated along with every other bodily function.
	No.
	So every time I drop a deuce now, I'm going to send a text with a picture and a smiley face.
	Actually, in exclusive, we have some of the yet-to-be-released emojis from Apple, which brings us to this week's 7 Plus 1!
	You forgot the van in the chamber!
	People often forget the one in the chamber.
	By the way, that's the new Walther that is made by Walther.
	Walther, they were licensing it for a while, now they're made in-house in Fort Smith, Arkansas.
	Have you been following the emoji story, you guys?
	Yeah.
	So we have a few months here.
	Let's have you read number 7 and 6 respectively.
	The number 7 emoji we have exclusive access to is what, Keith and or Kevin?
	Transgender.
	Yeah, that's a Transgender Emoji you can send.
	Oh, wait a minute, I missed it!
	Can I see it again?
	No, you have to watch the replay.
	Number six is the President Trump Emoji.
	This one is actually going to be wildly popular.
	I like that one.
	And then one, just so the Hodge Twins don't have to say it, is that this was not exactly controversial.
	Not especially controversial, because it's the Not Muhammad Emoji.
	Yeah, very clear that is not Muhammad.
	Not.
	Not.
	It's capitalized.
	No, it's not.
	Because here's the actual Muhammad emoji.
	It's been around for a very long time.
	It's been around.
	The Jews lied about everything after Abraham, but there is no hate here.
	Love.
	It's an entire religion based on the Jews lie!
	Yes.
	All of them lie!
	The hand under the thigh was the other guy!
	But I love you, Hutch twins!
	I am here for you tonight!
	Uh, number four, uh, an emoji that's yet to be released, uh, that people are really proud of is the pro-choice emoji.
	Yeah, this is coming down the pike.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, man.
	Uh, really quick, we'll skim along this one.
	Number three is the cancer emoji.
	That one makes sense.
	That seems like a really good, uh, good selection.
	Number two, the Pocahontas emoji is one that... Accurate?
	Yeah.
	Get your Texas bar.
	And the number one is the official emoji of the state of Virginia.
	This is one that's yet to be released.
	Nice.
	And the plus one that you forgot in the chamber, of course, is this salute emoji to Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
	Yeah, it seems as though that one's self-explanatory.
	This has been this week's 7 Plus 1!
	BOOM!
	BOOM!
	You forgot Stefan in the chamber!
	Uhhhhhh Every time. German voices just make black people laugh.
	Wait, wait, hold on, I'm sorry.
	We're getting another one.
	Hey Crowder, it's me.
	Sorry about spiraling earlier.
	Turns out it was my bad.
	I was calling another guy on my phone.
	My buddy Chowder.
	I don't believe that.
	Very nice of Crowder.
	Anyway, wanna grab beers?
	Nah, I'm not exactly sure.
	I think he's more of a white-clawed guy.
	What's the bear thing going on over there?
	He's just like taking it.
	You know what?
	No one really knows.
	Hey, by the way, the winner, I should say, I have this in front of me.
	I have it written down because people said, don't forget to announce this.
	Winner of last week's trivia contest is Katie Reynolds.
	Nice!
	At Katie Rinaldo 88.
	And so you win... Oh, that was the answer.
	Was it about Ralph Macchio?
	Yeah.
	I don't remember what the question was, but you win a free t-shirt or ranger panties or item of your choosing.
	And I think an autographed picture.
	From Smooth Manny.
	I don't know how this is a prize.
	Honestly, like I'm surprised that you enter the contest.
	We'll give you the stuff, but it's crap.
	So the segment I wanted to get into before, now people are saying, are you going to talk about the Green New Deal?
	I didn't have time to read through all of it before this show.
	It's insanity.
	It does seem pretty insane.
	And it does lead me to the point that I do want to discuss tonight, why I believe that President Trump is going to be reelected.
	And the main reason for this is that Democrats keep giving him gifts.
	They wonder, like, how he won in the first place.
	You hear that a lot.
	Like, how did Donald Trump, how could he have possibly won?
	And how could he possibly win again?
	I'll tell you exactly how.
	The left continues to give this man gifts.
	He really is.
	There's like a Chauncey Gardner effect.
	He's not necessarily doing everything right.
	They're just doing everything wrong.
	He looks brilliant by comparison.
	So we're going to go through four top.
	Do you think he's going to win re-election?
	Oh yeah.
	God, I hope so.
	You gonna vote for him?
	Oh, hell yeah.
	Oh, hell yeah.
	Did you vote for him the first time?
	Yeah.
	Yeah?
	Well, I didn't vote last time I got caught up in those polls on CNN.
	Yeah.
	I actually believed it.
	I thought we was gonna keep that to ourselves.
	But I'm definitely voting next time.
	Unless the polls come out.
	That's a lot of people, though.
	A lot of people who didn't necessarily pull the lever for Trump, I think, are more emboldened the next time around.
	And you guys said that you voted for Obama at least the first time, right?
	The first time.
	Second time, Mitt Romney.
	Oh, wow.
	That's surprising.
	Not for me.
	Because he's like the whitest guy ever.
	He's Utah white and that's white.
	white yeah I mean like there's like there's white there's Larry Bird white
	and then there's Utah for some reason Larry Bird was just great at basketball
	so he threw off the whole bell curve I do think that the State of the Union, which occurred this week, showcased exactly what I'm talking about, just how far left the DNC has gone.
	gone. And by the way, this is something that's important to note, 70%...
	70... is it 76? 76, yeah. 76% of Americans approved of the speech.
	Wow. What's really bad for Democrats is that 81% of independents approved of the speech.
	I think we have a correlation from YouGov.
	And the more that the left continues to push their agenda toward the left, the Democrats, I should say, pushing their agenda toward the left, The more likely it seems that these independent voters who, everyone said Trump just has this ceiling.
	He has this ceiling and it's his base.
	Well, the truth is his base, actually, those are the people who had the biggest problems with President Trump.
	We'll get into those in a second.
	It seems like the independents, actually the people in the middle, are really starting to thaw on the guy.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	They're starting to come around in huge numbers.
	I've never seen numbers like that for independents.
	That's the coveted group of people that everybody goes after in elections.
	They try to rile their base up and then they try to get independents.
	When that high of a percentage of independents agree with your State of the Union that was never supposed to happen in the first place, you're doing something really wrong on the other side.
	Really wrong.
	I don't think I've ever seen 81% of independents agree on anything.
	No.
	They're independent for a reason.
	Yes, exactly.
	Independence should just read difficult.
	Yes, very difficult.
	And you get 81% of them to support The reality show guy!
	Like, think about this for a second.
	How badly must you screw up that the guy who is literally trademarked, you're fired, is beating the crap out of you?
	The second lowest polling politician in U.S.
	history to run for president, and you picked the person below him.
	I don't know how this happens.
	Let's go through kind of four examples.
	I think this is one that's really important recently.
	Late-term abortion.
	So here's a clip where President Trump called for legislation to end the late-term abortions, and he mentions Northam's discussion of killing babies after birth.
	This is an important clip for people to see.
	Here you go.
	To defend the dignity of every person, I am asking Congress to pass legislation To prohibit the late-term abortion of children who can feel pain in the mother's womb.
	There are people who refuse to stand at that.
	Think about this for a second.
	You're an independent.
	You're Washington.
	He's going, let's at least agree to stop babies that could feel pain being ripped apart in the womb.
	OK?
	Right?
	And then you're like, no.
	You're going to sit on your hands for that?
	Do you have any idea how the optics look?
	And here's something that's really important.
	I think maybe you guys aren't necessarily, because you weren't really like political junkies in the last election.
	And I know you'll vote in the next election.
	But Trump, by the way, was pro-choice.
	Yeah.
	Up until he ran as a Republican, effectively.
	And conservatives were really leery of him because of that, right?
	We didn't think he was conservative.
	They didn't think he was conservative.
	And so Donald Trump found himself in a pickle in the primaries, particularly because he had to appeal to his base, the conservatives.
	He had to prove to them that he was pro-gun, that he was pro-life, while still appeasing moderates.
	And that's hard to do when they think that you can't win over either of them.
	Now again, the Democrats have given him a gift and that he can now appeal to his pro-life base and
	even to moderates who just don't want to see babies being born alive, killed.
	All he has to say is, hey, hey, a 40-week-old baby being chopped to the head bad.
	And he wins everyone who's not Cortez.
	That's all that's required.
	Think about that for a second.
	All the Democrats had to do was say, hey, most Americans are relatively pro-choice because it's a term that we created to trick them, and some of them are stupid.
	So let's go with that.
	And instead they said, 40-week abortions, right?
	40 weeks?
	And Donald Trump was, I'm calling your bluff.
	So I mean, all you had to do was not kill babies once they were born.
	I mean, if you had drawn the line a little bit further back and just not gone that far, a lot of this may not have come up.
	Right.
	But the minute that you start saying stuff like the Virginia governor said, and then you pass bills in New York, and then Tran says what she says, you've just riled up an entire base of voters.
	You did not want this to be the issue.
	No, exactly.
	And it couldn't stop.
	No.
	I'm kind of stupid on this.
	Why would you have to kill a 40-week-old baby?
	Exactly!
	Why?
	Because you don't want it.
	Yeah.
	And you know what's crazy?
	My daughter was born premature.
	She was eight months.
	Eight months.
	I'm not entirely sure.
	I think the viability after 25 weeks is over 50% now.
	Well, after 20 weeks it's still viable.
	The percentage goes down, but it's still possible for somebody to live after 20 weeks.
	It's still possible.
	The argument of viability, it's like the left is on an island and it's shrinking.
	It's kind of like the island that Al Gore described.
	It's kind of like the Florida Al Gore described, only it never really happened.
	The tide is just rising.
	They have less and less land because babies are becoming more viable as technology progresses.
	So they have less and less of an argument.
	Well, and this is a very horrible thing to happen, right?
	You don't want a bill coming in New York like this that allows this for any period of time.
	But I think it's also, it happens to have a huge silver lining because it's one of the best things.
	It's waking people up around the country to the horrors of abortion, who may have just kind of swept it under the rug as a woman's right to choose and kind of bought that line.
	Now they have to deal with the reality of post-birth, if it's a botched abortion, or abortion right up until delivery.
	That's now what we're talking about.
	The beauty of it is, and I don't mean the beauty of it, but the situation is people
	see 40 weeks and think, well hold on a second, that's really extreme.
	Where am I okay with abortion?
	And they go back and go, well hold on, 25 weeks, that's in a lot of states.
	25 weeks?
	And they are dumbfounded.
	A lot of people think it's plan B. They think it's some woman who's going in, there was
	some incest or rape that occurred, which is a very, very small minority of cases, and
	instead they're going, wait, people are killing these babies at 25 weeks old and this is legal?
	And now they're pushing for it to be legal with this broad health exception everywhere else?
	All it requires is anyone who is against the killing of a 30, 40, 25-week-old baby.
	Now Donald Trump has won on the issue of abortion.
	Congratulations, Democrats!
	No Republican has won public appeal!
	On the issue of abortion in probably two decades.
	Because a cool man!
	No, that's what they called Ben Carson.
	And he, by the way, was not upset about it.
	I think it says the immaturity.
	People would call me Coon Man, which sounds like a cool superhero if I had claws.
	If he had a larger voice, he would be in office right now.
	If he had a voice.
	But you know what's funny?
	Have you ever seen Ben Carson's house for sale?
	No.
	It was in Florida or Vegas.
	Dude's a pimp.
	Nothing but like gold and all these little angels by the bathtub.
	It's like a Russian bathhouse.
	This is Ben Carson's bathroom.
	He's letting his money do the talking for him because he can't.
	I like to see myself in a wide view mirror when I take a dump.
	It was bizarre.
	If you look at the placing of the mirrors, it was opposite the toilet.
	Like he wants to watch his paperwork.
	I have no idea.
	So another example here where the left has lost all ground is pushing for open borders.
	So in the State of the Union, Trump mentioned ICE.
	women and children from sex traffickers.
	Watch what, I mean, Casio Nina Pinta Santa Maria Cortez
	refuses to clap for this.
	Here's the clip.
	More than 1,500 sadistic traffickers have been put behind bars.
	This is just like, that's, everyone is clapping.
	You should be.
	Look, you got people on the right and the left.
	Wait, what?
	Stone cold, guys.
	How should I... should I... I'll get out.
	I'll get out.
	That's insane.
	I'll get up for stopping sex slavery.
	I don't like him but I'll get up.
	You just handed him a gift by the way!
	They were wearing white for women's rights!
	You gotta clap if you're wearing white for women's rights!
	Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who are you wearing?
	I'm wearing white for women's rights?
	Accept all the underage hookers against their will!
	I'll see you at the halftime show!
	I cannot believe it!
	What rights do women don't have that men do?
	Well...
	Wearing white after Labor Day, I guess, in this case, but I know it's before Labor Day.
	Before?
	I'm not entirely sure.
	And here's the thing, not even talking about the sex trafficking, okay?
	That's one that, again, you have to play the game in politics.
	Everyone knows this a little bit.
	We don't like it, but when someone says, ending sex trafficking, even if you go, well, hold on a second, I know that Cortez, when she's talking about ending sex trafficking, is actually attached to the Green New Deal bill, and that's actually about 70% tax, so I don't like it, but she did say end sex trafficking.
	All right, I'm gonna clap.
	They didn't clap at that.
	But if you go even further into the issue, a new CBS poll shows that 72% of Americans agreed with Trump specifically on immigration anyway.
	Here's them saying it.
	Just in from our CBS News instant poll here following the president's State of the Union, 76% of speech watchers said they approved of what they heard.
	I'm very surprised.
	That's a large percentage there.
	I'm very surprised that any of these percentages are true.
	That's why I had to play that clip, so you would believe that I'm not just saying it.
	Well, she's been portrayed as like this strong, independent, Latina woman, and that's why we hate her.
	And when that happens, she's like, hey, guys, do we clap at this?
	I'm not really sure.
	Hold on.
	We'll stand up, but not clap.
	OK, but I'm independent and I do my own thing.
	By the way, the funniest thing I thought, Trump was making a comment he said one in three of these
	women that are being brought across the border are actually raped or sexually assaulted in the
	process of coming across the border and one of the fact-checking organizations says well that's
	partially true it's actually 31% not 33% precisely. You just lost the forest to the trees guys
	come on. Here's a here let me just paint a picture for you.
	Just a moment here, OK?
	I'm trying to actually wrap my head around this.
	It's really hard to do.
	It's like when they fact-checked Donald Trump, where he said, we had burgers stacked a mile high at the White House.
	They're like, actually, you did not have burgers stacked a mile high.
	As a matter of fact, they were placed in more of a horizontal spread, really.
	One couldn't account for the vertical metrics because of the buttons and depending on the temperature of the room.
	It's like, you're a d***head.
	But think about this for a second, okay?
	The guy who said, you can do whatever you want, you can grab by the p***y, and disgusted a whole nation, now has the moral high ground because you've decided to vilify him because he's against sex trafficking and he had the number off by 2%!
	Yes.
	You've given him a gift!
	And you couldn't possibly make it easier for him.
	Now everyone forgets about the grab-by-the-p*** and you go, actually, that 33% of people who are raped when they try to get here against their will, it's 31%.
	You better get in line, President Trump.
	And all he needs to say is, you're a piece of s***.
	And they're like, you know what, I kind of am.
	Yeah, let's walk out this door here.
	I should almost be prioritizing the women who are being raped.
	They don't call them snowflakes for nothing.
	They do not!
	And that guy looked like a snowflake with a toupee on.
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	Can I listen to the audio of this?
	Yeah, that's a great way.
	Yeah, you can.
	Here's the second example before we get to the prime example.
	The left, of course, is pushing socialism.
	This is another reason I think President Trump is going to win.
	They're outright pushing it.
	Remember when it used to be veiled?
	Yeah.
	When people said, we think that Barack Obama is kind of a socialist.
	Right, yeah.
	Socialism is actually, it's a dog whistle.
	It's the n-word.
	Remember when they said that?
	It's like, no!
	No, no, we think he's a socialist.
	Like, by the way, there are people in Norway who are socialists, too.
	They're not black at all.
	It's actually, like, really white and really strong for some reason.
	We have no idea as to why yet.
	We're still running some genetic testing.
	But we actually think that Barack Obama is like a Norwegian socialist.
	That's it.
	No.
	Trump just said that we're never going to be a socialist country.
	And look at who refuses to applaud.
	Here you go.
	Socialism in our country.
	Yeah, boo.
	America was founded on liberty and independence and not government coercion, domination, and control.
	We are born free and we will stay free.
	Wait for it.
	I SHOULD HAVE ANTICIPATED THIS!
	AND NOT PLANNED POORLY MY AFTERNOON NAP!
	CORTEZ, WHERE WERE YOU?
	YOU WERE MY NUMBER TWO!
	That's one of the best zoom-in close-ups in the history of presidential speeches.
	He looks like Grumpy Cat had sex with a crazier older Grumpy Cat.
	That's awesome.
	So awesome.
	He looked right at him when he said it too.
	He did.
	You knew that was a set up and he's like, and camera two, go.
	He greased the palms of one camera guy.
	Everyone at the executive level, at the networks, they don't like him.
	He's like, hey, listen, camera operator number four, you know what to do.
	Yeah, yeah, there's that part of my love.
	Let's think about it.
	Current Democratic, the stars of the Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders and Ocasio's Nina Pinto Santa Maria Cortez.
	These are the stars.
	They're actual socialists.
	She actually thinks that she's going to pass some kind of 70% tax.
	I don't know.
	She explained it somehow.
	The notion of socialism to that particular regime, what do you think about the president, why he did that?
	Well, I think that he needs to do it because he feels like he feels himself losing on the issues.
	Every single political issue.
	Is that right?
	Do I sound smart?
	What?
	What are you talking about?
	What?
	of the American public has been overwhelmingly popular, even some with a majority of Republican
	voters supporting what we're talking about.
	When we talked about a 70% marginal tax rate on incomes at over $10 million, 60% of Americans
	approve it.
	No!
	What?
	A majority of Republicans support socialism.
	What?
	I thought this was well-known.
	Hey, you, person next to me, is this well... it's not well-known?
	I don't know what I'm saying, Chris Matthews.
	She probably went to walks or something.
	Does that... let's be honest here.
	Oh my gosh.
	Do we have to act like that sounds...
	Like an intelligent woman?
	No.
	Do we have to pretend?
	Here's the thing, Nancy Pelosi doesn't sound like an idiot.
	I think she's wrong.
	I think she's the only person in politics who's proactively evil, but she doesn't sound like an idiot.
	Hillary Clinton doesn't sound like an idiot.
	No.
	This girl sounds like a moron.
	Look, Trump says a lot of dumb stuff and I think they went out and found the only person on the left that could possibly sound dumber and elected her to Congress as a 29-year-old bartender with no experience doing anything.
	Right.
	Yes.
	They've got their man, or woman in this case.
	Hey, I can grab anyone by the p***y. Why is it buffalo wings if it's chicken?
	This is the best debate ever.
	I think so too.
	Think about it, no matter how great you think the government is at giving you free stuff, people still don't want to hire taxes.
	Was that what the prank calls this week where we called black businesses?
	Yeah.
	They were like, would it make you more or less likely to support Governor Ortham if he supports increased taxes?
	I don't want to pay more taxes!
	I want, like, the opposite of that.
	I feel like this could be like a spoof, like Donald Trump at some point wrote a playbook that said, oh, if they're going to beat me, here are all the things that you can do to beat me.
	And he's like laughing with his cronies behind the scenes.
	It's like they've picked the absolute worst ideas possible to win an election and they've done all of them in two months.
	It's glorious.
	It's like a guy.
	Listen, I think Donald Trump is bright enough, but I don't think he's as brilliant as obviously his die-hard supporters.
	I think sometimes he's just been given these gifts.
	Like, I think this is the equivalent to reverse psychology actually working.
	Hey, hey, Cortez, hey, the one thing you got, the one thing, okay, the only thing that'll take me down, alright, listen, you know what?
	I'm not gonna say it.
	OK, listen, if you suggest a 70% tax, that's a bit too much.
	She's like, what?
	Guys, I know how to kill Samson.
	I wrap his hands in ropes.
	And he's like, Samson, he gives her the wrong way to kill him.
	And he wakes up and he destroys the ropes.
	She's like, ah!
	She's like, oh my god, what happened?
	Why would you lie to me, Samson?
	That's exactly what it is.
	And then for some reason, Samson told Delilah.
	The last one, yes.
	He gave her the real way to remove his strength, cut his hair, when she did exactly what he told her the first two times.
	How did he not put it together?
	Strong and dumb.
	Strong and dumb.
	Strong and dumb, Samson.
	I think the greatest example, of course, of the gifts that the left has been, they've been giving Donald Trump, and I hope they do it again in 2020, is they ran Hillary Clinton in a general election.
	Yeah.
	Likely the one person Donald Trump was capable of beating at that time.
	Trump pulled very badly for people who forgot this leading up to the election.
	Almost every single pollster got it wrong because he was polling so badly.
	And he's been receiving nothing but hostile media coverage since.
	Here's the thing.
	The choice in 2020 is very different from 2016.
	You were not a Trump guy.
	And I was not a Trump guy in the primaries.
	No, we argued about it.
	We argued about it because I remember saying, well, listen, if he does win, you know, he's going to be the guy at that point.
	But it wasn't my guy.
	I liked Carly Fiorina.
	I liked Ted Cruz.
	And I pretty much liked everyone not named... Who was it?
	Well, yeah, Jeb Bush, obviously.
	Or John Kasich, sorry.
	I was trying to think, yeah.
	Jeb Bush, I was like, no way.
	And John Kasich, just because, like, I mean, that guy's just a wiener.
	It's just like, it's nothing personal.
	I just see him, and I go, you ever see someone who makes you just go, ugh.
	He's a guy from Ohio, I guess.
	How about Little Marco?
	Do you like Little Marco?
	I actually didn't mind Little Marco.
	But John Kasich has that haircut where he looks like a bird caught in an oil spill.
	You know what I mean?
	Where he's just like, I'm talking about after BP, the Crisco was in the water, and all the birds just come out like, ah!
	And you're like, it's John Kasich.
	We got some John Kasichs here, we're washing them off.
	We're washing them off!
	We got some John Kasichs and we're washing them off with Dawn!
	I don't know what happened here.
	I have no idea where we're going.
	So the choice in 2020 is very different from 2016.
	In 2016, a lot of people thought that both Hillary and Trump were kind of taking us toward a cliff.
	I think Ben Shapiro summarized it as, though the concerns of many, by the way, he said, the fear was that if Trump got into office and he did a bad job, it'd be like we're heading toward the cliff, just as we'd be heading toward the cliff with Hillary Clinton, but with Donald Trump, there would be no break.
	Because no Republican would be elected after Donald Trump if he did as bad of a job that many people anticipated, myself included, in the primaries.
	I remember saying, like, I think we deserve to lose if we run him in the primaries.
	Of course, when he was against Hillary Clinton, I mean, listen, come on, you just have to take the free shots when you're giving them.
	People thought Hillary Clinton, though, was ultimately a politician, right?
	That's what people didn't like.
	They thought she's a politician, but as leftists go, relatively moderate.
	That's the thing with Hillary Clinton.
	There was Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.
	Trump, on the other hand, people also thought, a lot of people think because he says bad words that he's somehow extreme.
	He was actually seen as really pretty moderate and not that conservative, so a lot of conservatives weren't big fans of Trump.
	As a matter of fact, I think you'll be surprised when you look at those voting blocks.
	Evangelicals voted for Trump because they had to, but not all of them.
	Likely fewer in a lot of municipalities, but you saw a lot of union voters who would have typically gone Democrat.
	The blue dogs go for Donald Trump.
	So a lot of those people held their noses, though, the Christians, the true conservatives, and voted for Trump because Hillary Clinton was such an insufferable bitch.
	That's really why.
	But now in 2020, we're choosing between Donald Trump, who's been really pretty conservative if you look at him as a president, outside of the trade issues.
	And pretty good.
	And all Democrats, who have swung so far to the left, their right nut hasn't seen them in a month.
	Oh, this hurts.
	It's not that literal.
	I'm gonna roll.
	We know they want abortion up to 40 weeks, 70% tax rates, as you just saw, completely socialized health care.
	They want to destroy our economy on principle versus Donald Trump, who has done well by nearly all metrics available to us at this point, besides tweeting mean words, some of which are misspelled, let's be honest.
	But outside of that, he's done pretty well.
	The choice in 2020, when they say it's stark, they go, we think there's a stark contrast between Democrats and Donald Trump.
	It is.
	But in a positive way for Trump, because these gifts that the Democrats keep giving him.
	So when Republicans say that we need to be more moderate, this is something people have to like, hey, listen, we need a more moderate Republican party.
	We need to come to the middle.
	I go, hold on a second.
	Look how far the left is going.
	Don't stare a gift horse in the mouth.
	We're going to be back here with Gavin McInnes after this.
	Come here, you punk!
	Wait till I get a hold of ya!
	You'll rule the day you ever heard the name Betty Crowder!
	Thanks, Mug Club!
	Don't be a victim.
	you Try the Walther.
	You'll be glad you did.
	And I don't want nobody. Want nobody. And I don't want nobody. You got that right. I don't want just nobody.
	I think that's Uncle Phil on that song.
	Really happy to have our next guest on.
	Long time friend of the show.
	A lot of people have been asking for him to be on the show.
	Obviously, I've been speaking with him not necessarily on the show.
	And he will be here live in studio for several days next week, not as a guest, but as third chair, as an active contributor here at Light Off Crowder.
	You can follow, right now, go and support him at DefendGavin.com.
	I guess a recently unemployed talk show host, but a comedian extraordinaire.
	Gavin McInnes, how are you, sir?
	I'm pretty good.
	How are you doing?
	I'm doing okay, thank you.
	This is a more casual Gavin than we're used to seeing.
	I don't think I've ever seen you in a white t-shirt.
	You usually did the falling down outfit.
	Yeah, my life has been destroyed.
	So I'm emptying my bank account on this lawsuit.
	I'm unemployed.
	I don't really have anything going on.
	Thanks to the SPLC.
	So, okay, there's a lot to unpack there and I want you to take the initiative because I don't want to go anywhere that we're not supposed to.
	The SPLC, you're suing them, correct?
	That's defendgabin.com.
	Tell me what's going on with that exactly.
	Well, they set their sights on me around when Trump won and the Proud Boys and I think their beef is, well, I think the way the SPLC works is they realize that calling everyone a Nazi makes for good money.
	Yes.
	We have an actual physical brochure that they handed out at a train station.
	I didn't know that they actually... I didn't believe the map until I looked it up online to corroborate.
	It's 100% true.
	I mean, if there is one woman, Jennifer Morse, who, uh, she's for man-woman adoption, before gay adoption.
	Yeah.
	That means she wants all homosexuals to die and will kill them tomorrow.
	Yeah.
	In their book.
	And so... Some of them are just churches, by the way.
	Shocking.
	Some of them are actually just churches.
	But yeah, go ahead.
	...conservatives, they have a blind spot for jihad, which I don't quite get.
	The only time you see Muslims on their list is Ayaan Hirsi Ali, for saying I'm kind of over my religion after they cut off
	my clitoris and uh, and Majid Nawaz who went from radical extremist to
	moderate and so they called him an anti-Muslim extremist for which
	he sued them and won it would seem like um, one would kinda leave the faith
	when you lose your clitoris as you put it, it would seem as though the
	Southern Poverty Law Center should be more concerned with poor people who don't have clitorises
	yeah it's really odd to give Islam a pass, especially when your whole thing is
	Nazis and anti-Semitism.
	If you're looking for anti-Semitism, wear a yarmulke around Paris.
	Wear a yarmulke.
	in a predominantly Muslim neighborhood and see how many high fives you get.
	You'll get a lot more than walking through the Catskills or Alabama for that matter.
	Well, I've talked about this before.
	I think that if you look at modern... Countries that have Islamic rule, not every Muslim in the United States, okay, we have to preface it with that, but any country that has Islamic rule, it would certainly be more comparable to the worldview, to the ideology, the philosophy of Nazism than free enterprise, the liberty we see in the United States.
	It would be Something that could not be argued with, yet they want to label places here Nazis, and give it a pass.
	In the very literal sense, if you look at Islam, if you look at Islamically run countries, they don't like the Jews.
	They want to see them completely eviscerated from the map.
	Yeah, well, they'll carry signs that say, I love Hitler at these Muslim rallies.
	The Protocols of Zion does very well in the Middle East.
	It's pretty strange.
	And you look at their definition of extremism and Nazi.
	And with Proud Boys, they would say white nationalists all the time.
	And I would get lawyer letters and send it, not just the SPLC, but to media.
	So media goes, OK, OK, I don't want to get sued.
	Far right.
	And you go, far right?
	I mean, I'm against the drug war.
	I'm pro-gay.
	I'm pro-Israel.
	How am I far right?
	But to them, and when I say them, I mean the left these days here in clown world, if you're not 100% with us, you're 100% against us.
	Right.
	So the people that end up on this Nazi list, like with the SPLC, the extremists include Ben Carson, Laura Ingraham, Jeanine Pirro.
	It would definitely include a 2004 Bill Clinton, who was against gay marriage.
	Yeah.
	Or an Obama or a Hillary from back then.
	Matter of fact, the only president who could not be included for his stance on gay marriage upon entering office would be Donald Trump.
	Yes!
	That's the ultimate irony.
	No, but you are correct.
	And it really is, it's terrifying, especially when you consider that the SPLC is one of the main, I don't, I guess you would say one of the main seats in this board of directors that YouTube has in determining content guidelines.
	A lot of people don't know that.
	The SPLC are used as a reference, as a guide for YouTube when determining what should be flagged, what should be considered hate speech.
	That's what I want to get into in Discovery.
	I want to get into exactly who they're influencing, who they're telling.
	It's sort of a form of extortion, like Al Sharpton does, where he goes into an organization and says, either let me be in control of who does what, or I'm going to call you racist and you'll be in big trouble.
	Right.
	And they just keep accruing more power and more money.
	Money and power are the same thing.
	And they keep accruing all this money and power until they control social media.
	And, you know, in an age when newspapers are dying, controlling social media is controlling the national discussion.
	Right.
	So in a way, they're kind of trying to take over America.
	They want to be judge, jury and executioner and decide who gets a job, who can do business.
	Like Jennifer Moore is getting a call from her bank.
	And at the same time, Their judgment system seems to be totally random.
	I call it Becky, like a mean girl in high school.
	They had a headline that I talked about in my press conference where they go, you want bigots, Gavin?
	This is how you get bigots!
	And you're like, you're taking over the Magna Carta, you're the new judicial system, and you talk like that?
	What a strange combination.
	I thought you were doing your Alexandria Nina Pinto Santamaria Cortez impression right there.
	I was tricked for a second.
	Seriously, the Green New Deal, guarantee jobs.
	What?
	How do you guarantee jobs?
	Yeah.
	She said, every time I listen to her, it just sounds like one of those annoying college students who was kind of hot and she didn't like that she was hot because she wanted more substance.
	So she shaved her head and started talking about politics, but you can still see that she's a nine.
	And she's like, no, I'm not a pretty girl.
	I'm like a revolutionary.
	And then on Trump's State of the Union, she said, I just thought it was really morose.
	And you're like, what?
	I understand if you don't like Trump, but morose?
	Morose?
	I think she thinks the word morose means moronic.
	Yeah, you know, and it's funny that you mentioned that.
	I thought at first, well, let me give her the benefit of the doubt.
	Maybe it's when he was referring to your abortion policies there, AOC, but I don't think, I think that was lost on her.
	She's just morose.
	And it's like, what are you, what are you, an emo kid at a census fail concert?
	No, I think you're right.
	She wants to be more substantive.
	Look at my beret, but you get a couple of Smirnoff ices in her and she's dancing on the rooftop as we've seen.
	This is also, it's defendgabin.com.
	I want to get into your suit specifically, but it's interesting that you mentioned, you know, they want to control social media.
	Jack Dorsey was just on Joe Rogan's show recently.
	And I was surprised, obviously I've been on Joe Rogan's show, he's been on this show, consider him a friend of the show, surprised how soft that interview was.
	Jack Dorsey evaded a lot, compared to how your interview went on Joe Rogan, or my interview went, and he was talking, for example, about Brexit, and he said, you know, we've realized there's a problem on, I think we'll do a rebuttal to this next week, because it's a three hour show, and a lot of people didn't really get to see what was going on there, but at one point Jack Dorsey said, for example, Brexit, I realized that Twitter was really amplifying all these reasons to leave, and if you were on Twitter, all you would see are reasons to leave, and there wasn't really a discussion about reasons to stay.
	And I was saying, hold on a second, that's because it's on every single mainstream news outlet.
	The scales are a little bit tipped, because people who have never been allowed a voice before, for example, with this show compared to ABC, NBC, CBS, Comedy Central, there's one alternative.
	The same thing happens with Brexit, and it was lost on him, and Joe didn't follow up on that.
	So I wonder if you had watched that interview at all or what your opinions are on Jack Dorsey.
	I was on Infowars yesterday, I think it was, and Alex Jones was going off about Joe Rogan saying that Joe is taking money from Twitter and he's not telling anyone about it.
	And I want to be on Joe Rogan really bad to help raise money for this case.
	So I was like, oh, I don't know.
	He's not so bad.
	I don't know how one would get money.
	I mean, I will say this.
	We get money from YouTube when the videos aren't demonetized.
	I think it's somewhere between 30 and 40 percent of our videos.
	So, we got that big YouTube money.
	You know, we're honest about it.
	Yeah, I've been demonetized.
	SPLC got me demonetized.
	I can't do Google AdSense, so all my videos are free.
	I encourage people to rip off my YouTube content because I know I'm going to be shut down any second now.
	But I'm glad you said something really interesting about how the left thinks that social media got You know, Trump elected or Brexit to happen.
	Yeah, Jack Dorsey specifically.
	The people got that to happen.
	We're all trying to leave Citi Field after a Mets game and you've closed off all the doors.
	You closed off mainstream media.
	You closed off all these different avenues and the only door that was open was social media.
	So yeah, we all came out that door.
	That's not the door's fault.
	It's our only option.
	You know, when Trump held up his phone in Florida and went like that and we saw 80,000 people in the stands, we went...
	Holy crap, we're being lied to.
	This guy's really popular.
	If he hadn't done that, we wouldn't have known.
	That's not Twitter's fault.
	Right.
	And Hillary Clinton held up her BlackBerry at the high school basketball court, and it was about two, I don't know, two about center court.
	And she said, look.
	And we said, well, this seems about right.
	We think that New York Times 99% projection seems a little bit generous at this point.
	You mentioned the Southern Poverty Law Center having targeted you specifically.
	How so?
	Because they've targeted a lot of conservatives.
	But what do you mean and how are you going about this legally for people who don't know?
	Again, it's DefendGavin.com.
	Well, you can find the complaint online and it is very involved.
	It's incredibly well written.
	It was Ron Coleman, a free speech lawyer, who went to the Supreme Court with a ban the slants because they couldn't trademark their name.
	Right.
	And he won that case.
	It's incredibly well written.
	They, I know that they targeted me because you look at the articles and it came out of nowhere and then it was just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
	Post after post after post after post.
	And the media is so mentally obese.
	They're so incurious and lazy.
	That every single time they'd mention me or the Proud Boys, they'd mention labeled as an extremist, labeled as a hate group, and it just becomes fact.
	It's funny because curious guys like you and I who are in the fray, we wrote off the SPLC a long time ago.
	Right.
	We laugh at them, the ADL, the Washington Post, CNN.
	They had credibility.
	Even the New York Times is hanging by a thread.
	Right.
	But then you talk to other people who aren't news junkies and they go, oh my God, the SPLC.
	They know what they're talking about, man.
	That's the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	They're experts!
	They have law in the name!
	They help the southern poverty.
	That billion dollar corporation is helping with the poverty.
	And they're fighting the hate.
	Hate's everywhere.
	Hate's on the rise.
	It's empowered in the age of Trump.
	It was always lying there, looming in the shadows.
	And then Trump got on, after Charlottesville, Trump got on the mic and said, OK, hate, you can come out now.
	And it was like the day after.
	They all came out and the sun seemed really bright.
	You know when you do coke all night in a bar?
	And you find the owner lets you out at 9 a.m.
	and you're like, wow, it's really bright out here.
	I don't know.
	I also don't know why the voice, it sounded like the person calling a Jack Dempsey fight.
	OK, Haight, you can come out now.
	We're in round four.
	That's where they are.
	They're in the 20s.
	In fact, I was just reading about Jack Dempsey.
	We talked about him before.
	Yeah.
	But there was a big fight with this guy, what the hell was his name?
	Primo Carnera.
	No, no, it was a black guy.
	I think his name was Willis or Wills.
	And, um, promoters didn't want to take the fight because they knew it would be Jack Dempsey versus a black guy.
	And it'd be seen as a racial thing, black, white, and then everyone would talk about race all the time.
	And so even back then they were like, ah, I don't want to get into the racial thing, I don't want to be called racist, it's boring, and let's just fight a different guy.
	Right.
	Because the social justice warriors of the 20s will take this fight into identity politics.
	But at that point they're like, I mean, we won't let them use the drinking fountains, but I just don't want to get into it, you know, publicly right now.
	I mean, let's be, let's be honest, Lou.
	I don't want to talk to the drinking fountains, let's just drop it, okay?
	But yeah, that's who Trump is.
	Like, they think when he says, Make America Great Again, he wants, You're a bum, Charlie!
	This is the New York I want back!
	The one where you can't—the Negroes aren't playing baseball!
	No apple pie for you!
	You go to the end of the apple pie line, and even then, if there's some, you'll be lucky to have it.
	Yeah, I know.
	It really is something—I think the reason they want to say that is because A significant percentage of people who voted for Barack Obama voted for Trump.
	You can see that with the Hodge twins who are here today.
	Just the numbers don't add up.
	And so they have to say, well really people voted for Barack Obama.
	But that hate was lurking beneath the surface to try and discount the fact that a lot of people were willing to overlook some shortcomings to have the first black president.
	I think that's a component to it. That's just opinion. But they've been going after you for
	a long time. And like you said, the proof that it's concerted, that's what always bothers me.
	Like Alex Jones, I agree with Alex Jones on very little.
	And I think sometimes he's gone too far.
	And I've talked about that. And he's been on the show and I've been on his show. But there is no
	denying that the deplatforming occurred immediately in quick succession. You can't say that that's a
	coincidence at that point. No, no. The reason that they're out to get me is because I'm effective.
	The reason they are out to get the Proud Boys is because it's a popular movement, and in both cases, they are red-pilling young people and getting them on the Trump train.
	And that's their worst nightmare.
	So, they knowingly lie.
	I don't believe the left thinks that the people they call Nazis are Nazis.
	In fact, did I ever tell you this story?
	At my NYU talk, I came out after I'd been pepper-sprayed for being a Nazi.
	I remember that.
	I grabbed the mic and I said, we got three problems with this country.
	The Negro, the woman and the Jew.
	And everyone just went, including all the protesters, their jaws hit the floor.
	And then of course, I said, just kidding, just kidding.
	I'm not that guy.
	But why did your jaws drop?
	Because you pepper sprayed me because you thought I was that guy.
	But then I started talking like that guy.
	And you all have a heart attack.
	So I don't believe that you believe That everyone's, you know, these evil bigots.
	Like with the Catholic school kids, did they really think that there was this beautiful indigenous ceremony?
	And these MAGA kids go, this is gay!
	And just start kicking over.
	Just kick him in the face through his drum.
	This is actually a funeral.
	We're having a funeral here in this teepee.
	Oh, we're having a funeral, yeah!
	Shove.
	Yeah.
	Smash goes the peace pipe.
	I mean, do we really think that's what goes on?
	I, I, you know, I, and do we really think that, uh, I forget, what's his name?
	Phil, what?
	Jussie.
	What?
	No, it was Phil.
	What was the, what was the, uh, the, the Native American?
	I keep forgetting his name.
	Nathan Phillips.
	Did anyone actually think, I think it was the guy from National, I think it was Bill Crystal, I could be wrong, but someone like that said, you know, he's an example of what America can be.
	Do we really think this guy's a wise sage?
	Even if you think those kids are douchey because it's a trucker hat, let's go with that.
	Fine.
	Do we really think that this guy is any kind of example of how to act as a grown adult in In any capacity?
	Do we have to pretend that?
	Went AWOL twice.
	a refrigerator technician for the military.
	Went AWOL twice.
	Who was then beaten up for being incompetent and terrible at fixing refrigerators.
	Not exactly the hero that we, he's not the hero we need, he's the hero we want.
	I don't understand.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It was in Halifax where they were accused of disrupting an indigenous ceremony and it
	was just a screw Canada rally on Canada Day.
	And the one leading it was an equally bad representation of Indians and she called herself
	Chief Grizzly Mama.
	And then the head of Canada's foreign affairs goes, I would like to apologize to Chief Grizzly
	It's like, dude, Google it.
	There's no Indian chief called Chief Grizzly Mama.
	And why would you do the cross?
	What's happening here?
	They were a pantheistic society.
	That's why they didn't use the wheel.
	They just said, hey, why does water exist?
	Because the gods say water exists.
	Well, why is the sky blue?
	Because the gods of the sky make it blue.
	It took a Christian to come over and go, actually, we've been encouraged to examine our surroundings and create critical theory.
	I'm not a big fan of the Native American culture, in case you can't tell.
	So, what are you doing- I'm a big- You are?
	Oh, that's right.
	Sorry, I'm sorry.
	Your wife.
	Yeah.
	I love natives so much, I made three.
	That's true.
	Yeah, but she's not hitting a snare drum made of whale skin, I imagine.
	She seems pretty Americanized slash Canadianized.
	Sure, sure.
	But they all still go to powwows and do all that stuff.
	Fancy dancers and funerals with the peyote and the teepee and sweat lodges.
	Jesus, you gotta go to a sweat lodge.
	Brutal.
	Anyway, we're getting off topic here.
	Someone died in a sweat lodge.
	There was a cult thing where some white guy tried to do it, and then a bunch of people died because he didn't leave the vent hole, like the Tea Feast.
	Well, that's my fear.
	When I'm in it, I'm like, you guys aren't doctors.
	How do you know that this is a reasonable amount of heat?
	Because it feels a little excessive.
	How do you know we're not literally baking in here?
	They don't.
	Can we get a doctor for our temperatures?
	Yeah, they have no idea.
	Okay, so DefendGavin.com, what is it that you are specifying?
	Are you filing for information, exactly?
	Is this a petition for information, or are you actually at the suing stage?
	I think it's called tortious interference.
	I'm not that well-versed in legality, but the big picture is I'm doing it for everyone else.
	I'm doing it for, like, take Ayaan Hirsi Ali, right?
	She dares to point out things about radical Islam.
	She does a movie with with that Theo Van Gogh, he gets murdered because of the
	movie and the SPLC pushes this anti-Muslim extremist sh**
	so she needs round-the-clock security which is real expensive
	I think it's about two grand a day so we get six hundred grand a year I don't
	know if she has to pay that but whatever she has to pay it's a lot of money and it's
	because of labels like this I mean
	they make this fake America that's full of bigots because it pays money
	but then these bigots that they stick the label on have to suffer
	and have their lives ruined.
	And it's wrong, and it's a terrible depiction of America.
	Like, this whole hate has no home here, this whole Antifa view of the world, can you imagine just walking through life thinking 50% of the country are Klansmen?
	That's a racist, that's a racist, that's an anti-Semite, that's a homophobe.
	You've never met one, but you hear they're everywhere.
	Well, it's not true.
	If you live in Virginia, there's a solid chance you can point in any direction and there's a Klansman and or blackface.
	And he's running your state.
	I don't even know which one is more offensive.
	No, I think it's a very important point that not everyone has the kind of platform or has had the kind of reach that you do, and it's important.
	We talked about this with Charles Hermes and UTA, with the students there who are suffering, the students who are silenced by professors who fail them.
	You know, it's someone has to do something.
	A lot of people say someone has to do something, you're doing something, and you're going to be doing more here next week here in third chair, taking an active role here in the show.
	It's DefendGavin.com.
	And you know one thing I will say too, I know a lot of conservatives This is something that I see a lot of.
	Conservatives don't all have to be the same.
	It's okay.
	Yeah, you're edgier.
	I hate that word, but edgier than maybe someone else who might be mainstream conservative.
	That's okay.
	I don't have to share the same opinions as every other conservative, but we do need to band together and understand the size of the enemy that we're facing right now.
	And the SPLC is a huge one, especially when you see how deep their tentacles reach into places like YouTube and potentially Twitter.
	So defendgavin.com.
	Hey, Gavin, looking forward to seeing you here next week, brother.
	Yeah, they're parodies of themselves.
	And you know what?
	I think that the right is ultimately just fangirls and boys of the left and they're curious about progressives because they know we've got better ideas.
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	I call that one the Hodge Twin.
	Sank like a stone, but my hair's still dry.
	I think they're actually in the green room right now.
	They went to go have what they called last time a white guy beer.
	It's fat tire.
	Are you serious?
	I'm feeling that!
	I'm like, it's just a fat tire.
	It's usually average 5.5% beer.
	I think they feel it more because, well actually they would feel it less because they're so lean.
	Typically if you have more muscle mass you feel beer less.
	It's the African origins.
	Do African people, do black people not process?
	I don't know, I'm just racist.
	I know Nate.
	Speaking of which, not that we are, but of course we released some prank calls this week
	And by the way, next week I think there is no show Monday because we're working on a hidden camera video here that could be the biggest thing we've ever done, or it could be a total bust.
	You never know.
	That's kind of what happened with Antifa.
	So forgive us if we're not around Monday with a show.
	But we did prank calls this Monday, and of course there was a man we spoke with.
	A lot of people were asking about him.
	A lot of people thought we faked it.
	That it was a parody of a black person in a racist caricature, our good friend Otis.
	It is not at all.
	As a matter of fact, Otis called us back and left a voicemail.
	I think you have it, right?
	I do.
	Let me queue it up.
	This is the voicemail from Otis.
	Are you ready?
	Yep.
	Here we go.
	I'm ready.
	Hey, listen, f*** you bigots.
	You f***ing racists.
	I got in touch with the police.
	I have this number.
	No, you didn't.
	And somebody will be contacting you.
	Call my restaurant again and don't hide behind a phone call.
	Come and see me, you punk f*ing motherf*er, when I put a hot steel in your ass.
	Okay, a couple things there.
	First off, I've always heard the term cold steel and hot lead.
	I think he mixed... I mean, I'm sure technically you can say hot steel.
	He got excited.
	He called us bigots, but he just immediately proceeded to call us f***s.
	And he said, I've called the cops and then threatened to kill us.
	Otis, you're getting us all wrong, man.
	We want what's best for you.
	The Black Business People!
	So, hopefully there's a little more Otis in the future.
	Otis, if you're out there, we would love to speak with you.
	You can be a guest on the show.
	I just, I couldn't... Sincere.
	I don't know how he got our number.
	And how you been getting lately?
	Anyone ever get this tinnitus in their ear?
	All the time.
	I found out recently that I have a sleeping disorder.
	So, that's nice.
	So, this is the closing of that.
	That usually is how we start off the third segment.
	Usually it goes into something.
	We're going to get to the moving and inspirational part.
	Obviously if you're a Mug Club member and you watch the full life advice segments, you kind of already know this, but maybe some of you don't.
	First off, I just want to let you know I'm so grateful for the overwhelming support that I've received from everyone, particularly as it relates to when I took a break for the first time in years and was kind of placing an emphasis on my health for a while.
	And it just kind of came back up recently because, like I said, I'm about 60% there.
	I had a couple people recognize me in one morning.
	Shout out to Mac, shout out to Katrina Blackfan.
	We genuinely have a lot of black fans.
	We do.
	And then there was a guy, this was at a gas station where I was just getting Getting a coffee and he said, Hey, Hey, Steven, I'm a fan.
	I hope you feel better soon.
	And he shook my hand.
	And the thing is, you know, I've talked about this and it's, it's a lot of people make it out to be bigger than it is, but it is exhausting and fibromyalgia.
	And I have a wrist injury funny enough from that Rocky comeback video that we did a while back.
	If he goes hitting the bag without any wraps, because I had to use these classic boxing gloves and I sprained my wrist, but it's been about five weeks and it really hurts.
	And when he shook my hand saying, I hope you feel better.
	It hurts so bad.
	Like nothing hurts my hand more than either lifting a milk jug or someone shaking your hand.
	And he was very nice about it.
	Which has just kind of brought up some emotions from before the break.
	I'm very grateful for the support because I'll tell you this, I was terrified.
	I was terrified before we took that break that I'd lose a lot of you, that you'd be angry, that you'd think I was lazy or scared or this constant fear that people always have.
	I think we all have this fear that we're not enough.
	So to see support and to get the emails and comments and even people who are uploading videos telling me how you've been praying and how you've been waiting, it's not something that a lot of people get to experience.
	But sometimes all of this, it scares me too.
	And I'd be doing you all a disservice if I weren't honest about everything that's been happening with myself, because I feel as though you've let me into your life, and I'm very grateful for that.
	And sometimes I need to clarify some of these communications.
	And I get a lot of emails, and if you read these Life Advice shows where we read emails, this is something that someone else said at this Gas Station.
	I asked if I could talk about it, but they didn't want me to use their name.
	So I'm trying to, whenever that happens, I try to tiptoe around it.
	Said that, oh, my son watches you, and I really use you as a role model.
	And I know that me saying that is like a Trump humble brag, like, they said the best!
	The reason I bring it up is actually because I'm not.
	I want to make something really clear, and we get a lot of these in the life advice emails, like, just because we're offering advice, me, Gerald, people who are here, I am not a role model.
	I've never wanted to be a role model.
	I've never claimed to be one, and I'm certainly not a good one.
	I want to make sure that is as clear as I can be.
	But I am something else.
	I'm an example.
	And the difference, I think, is an important one.
	And I think it's an important one for everyone to learn.
	Because one of those things is authentic.
	And one of those is a construct.
	A role model is a construct often of, it could be from the media, advertising, or some glorified self-aggrandizement.
	Sometimes it's a construct by you of someone or something that you may think you want to emulate, or you think that you want to be.
	An example, on the other hand, is something that everyone can be, and something everyone should be.
	A role model is an ideal That no one can live up to.
	An example is something or someone tangible that all of us can use to improve ourselves.
	So, see, you can hold yourself up as an example for someone in order to help them optimize their life without portraying yours as something to emulate, or certainly without portraying yours as perfection.
	That's what I think really bothers me about this.
	Recently, I've been the example of a cautionary tale of what not to do as it relates to values, priorities, actions.
	I let my health fall by the wayside.
	I walked too close to the edge.
	I was stupid.
	I pushed too hard.
	I lived too fast.
	That's not something you want to model yourselves after, okay?
	But it is an example you can use.
	And that's a role I've learned to embrace.
	And it's one that I think all of us, not only can be, it's something that all of us are.
	Something we're all burdened with, for better or worse, whether you like it or not.
	We are all an example to everyone around us, in some capacity, to someone around us in a very important capacity.
	Our words, our decisions, our actions.
	You may not know it, but someone right now is looking to you as an example.
	I guarantee it.
	And if you or I do myself a disservice of setting out to be a role model, that's why I get really uncomfortable when someone says that or we get these emails.
	If we set out to even attempt to achieve becoming a role model, we run the risk of assuming that we can do no wrong.
	Of assuming the moral high ground to ourselves without verifying.
	Carrying the mantle of role model breeds carelessness.
	And I think that's why it's a term I hate so much.
	But if you think of yourself as an example, it breeds thoughtfulness.
	Are you in the right?
	Are you standing on the moral high ground?
	Are you making the right decisions?
	It's why the whole DNC, particularly Nina Santa Maria Pinta Cortez, I know I misspoke.
	Look, you're an example of how to speak poorly, you dumbass.
	Yeah, it was Nina Pinta Santa Maria Cortez.
	That's why she aggravates me so much.
	She says she doesn't want to be bogged down.
	Recently, we played this clip.
	She doesn't want to be bogged down with the technicalities and facts.
	These were her words.
	But more so wants to focus on doing the moral thing.
	That's someone who thinks of themselves as a role model.
	That's someone who's already branded themselves with that mark.
	Otherwise, how do you know what the moral thing is?
	Well, guess what?
	It starts with facts.
	It starts with the technicalities over which Nina Pinto Santa Maria so gleefully wants to gloss.
	It starts and it ends with truth.
	Now, someone who understands that they are an example as opposed to a role model, they require of themselves facts.
	The technical, the ugly, the mundane.
	They get bogged down in boredom and the daily slog.
	Why?
	Because they know that they're a potential example and they hope to get it right.
	They want to get it right.
	They don't assume that they have it right.
	The only way to get it right?
	It comes down to what we talk about every day on this show.
	It comes down to truth.
	So everyone watching, everyone listening right now, understand and think about who this might be.
	That to someone in your life, I don't know who it is, could be lots of people, Think about them.
	Think about the people to whom you are a potential example, because we are all examples, period.
	You're not a role model.
	You'll never be a role model.
	There is no one on this earth right now who is a role model.
	But what kind of example are you going to be?
	Someone who gets it right?
	Someone who at least tries?
	Someone who seeks truth?
	Are you going to assume yourself the moral high ground and being a role model?
	Are you just going to be another cautionary tale?
	It's a decision I think we all have to make this week.

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