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#229 BEN SHAPIRO VS. BERKELEY! Dave Rubin and Roaming Millennial Guest | Louder With Crowder

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	Bernie helped make you the candidate who beat Donald Trump by three million votes.
	That is why this pardon is a slap in the face to Latinos.
	Ted Cruz masturbates to pictures of poor people without health care.
	She looks like if Tinkerbell had sex with James Gandolfini, only it came out more James Gandolfini.
	Oh!
	BBC accidentally aired an erotic video in the background of a live broadcast.
	Who was in that edit bay?
	Ramadan ended this weekend.
	So in honoring our Muslim friends, of course we need to find where Mecca is.
	The newly released Ta-Ta Towel was designed to solve the boob sweat problem.
	Michael Moore, he's their new spokesperson.
	ESPN called Robert Lee due to his name.
	How about just calling him Bob?
	Problem solved.
	It's amazing how smart you have to be to create something that stupid.
	That's true.
	That's not going to get trending.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	That's the face of victory after missing our first show since the first week due to tech issues.
	Horrible!
	Yesterday.
	We have a great show today.
	We have Dave Rubin, we have Roman Millennial, and we have Not Gay Jared producing with me in video studio as always.
	Follow him on Twitter at NotGayJarred.
	Me, describe it with your comments, your photoshops, your conclusions.
	I've fulfilled my legal obligations.
	Are we good?
	They're good.
	Hey, look who we have in studio, at Owen Benjamin.
	How are you, sir?
	I'm very good, Stephen.
	How are you?
	Very well.
	Well.
	How do you, you are, I'm surprised that slipped by you.
	I'm not big into grammar.
	I'm more into meaning and truth.
	Well, I guess I can appreciate that.
	Also, it sounds like you're full of s**t.
	So, we have Dave Rubin.
	You're a fan of the Rubin.
	I love Rubin.
	He's a good guy.
	Good guy.
	You know, one thing with Rubin, though, is you know it's always going to, like, his interviews, he can get anyone because it's not going to be hard.
	Yeah.
	It's not going to be hard.
	A little bit harder with this show sometimes.
	You're like, oh, yeah, we'll do the show.
	They go, wait, hold on a second.
	Were you the guys who played Spot the Tranny?
	Yeah.
	As in transgender?
	Come to think of it, Marco Rubio's busy.
	Click.
	It happens all the time.
	It happened with Ben Carson.
	Yeah, Ruben's like, so I hear you really like water.
	Yes.
	So do you like drink it to sustain yourself?
	That's so cool.
	Tell me more about water.
	No, but listen, the guy has also created some bridges.
	So, I mean, he's unbelievable.
	Really good guy.
	He's a genius.
	Dude's a genius.
	I love that guy.
	We'll be talking, by the way, about Title IX, Betsy DeVos, because I know Trump, DACA is going on.
	We don't have a ton of info, so we don't like to speculate a ton on that.
	But we do know a lot about Betsy DeVos, Title IX, and people wanting her to be raped from the left because that's tolerant.
	We'll talk about that.
	But, top Twitter trend this morning was regarding a sign that was broadcast from Fenway Park in the middle of a baseball game that read, Racism is as American as baseball.
	And of course this led to countless op-eds and Twitter people talking about how this was the obvious and a sign of our times.
	Racism is as American as baseball.
	Hey!
	Said 36.2% of the MLB. That ain't right, said 74.4% of the NBA. Could it be more unifying sports?
	And A said 100% of the curling league?
	But no one heard them, because no one is watching.
	I just think that guy just wanted to get on TV, and he did.
	Yeah, it worked.
	It's a great sign if you just want people to talk about it.
	You just say something that you know will make the view spiral.
	I was reading up on this, and I guess there are fewer black players than there used to be.
	And so they were complaining about that, but there are more Latino players than ever.
	Yeah, so they've just been replaced by other minorities.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's like a shell game, like...
	Who's the oppressed one?
	Ah, there is none.
	It's gone from all the shells.
	Kidding, it was the black guy.
	So Donald Trump did come to a deal on DACA. He says he didn't.
	You been following this, Owen?
	Yeah.
	That means, no.
	The deal with DACA was Nancy Pelosi and Senator Schumer late last night.
	He said he didn't, but then he did say there were some talks, and Sarah Huckabee Sanders had some words to say.
	We actually do have some exclusive footage right now of the deal that is still in process.
	That's awesome.
	There's a double meaning there.
	I don't know.
	I'm sorry.
	Photographer settled a two-year legal fight against an animal rights group over a monkey selfie picture.
	So this is true.
	U.S. judges, they actually said that copyright protection could not be applied to the monkey, but PETA said the animal should benefit.
	And the reason for that is they were trying to say that the person who takes the selfie, this monkey actually took a selfie with his own fingers, should have...
	By law, whoever snapped the picture gets the copyright.
	Right.
	By law, whoever snaps a picture should have the copyright.
	But they didn't see it that way, though.
	He lost the lawsuit.
	20th Century Fox has already secured the rights for the upcoming film.
	Dunstan hires a Jew.
	Could have done so much better.
	You know, Dunstan...
	Monkey films just make everything successful.
	But this happened in Wales.
	Yeah, I was just in Wales.
	And the Welsh...
	In the defense of the Welsh, they do have very attractive sheep, and they take them very seriously.
	I think pita should stick to the pockets.
	That's a dad joke.
	That's a dad joke.
	People have been fired for less.
	It's true.
	People have been fired for less.
	Pita pockets?
	You never have a pita pocket?
	I have never had a pita pocket.
	I've had pizza pockets.
	Is pita pocket?
	Is that a thing?
	Yeah, for like pita bread.
	Hummus.
	Is it the same company?
	It's just like a pocket.
	It's called a pita.
	Is it the same company?
	Because you can't do that many assortments of food well.
	Tell that to those guys.
	They're selling like hotcakes, I guess.
	I've never heard of Pita Pockets, so people undoubtedly tweet me, you're an idiot.
	Racism is as American as Pita Pockets.
	Yes!
	Can you imagine the back of that VHS cover Dunstan hires a Jew?
	Uh-oh!
	Dunstan finds himself in trouble, searching for someone with a lot of vowels in his last name.
	Does anyone take PETA seriously anymore?
	Apparently Carrie Underwood.
	No, no, no.
	I don't know.
	No, they make me want to eat a panda.
	Transgender man Colton Alexander.
	So this is another story, and then we'll get to Title IX. Trust me, it's worth it.
	Transgender man Colton...
	Well, female to male.
	Well, there you go.
	You see the picture.
	I don't need to narrate.
	No further explanation.
	Colter Alexander, sorry, was displaying his taped...
	This is in the top of my Apple News Feed, by the way.
	I know.
	Mine, too.
	Like...
	Do you have any, it's one of those things where I'm looking just at basic news now.
	I have to feel like Ted Cruz favoriting his tweets.
	I'm looking at it and I'm making sure my wife is not looking over my shoulder because this can pop up.
	You have a little boy.
	Does it ever concern you that, I mean, he's just going to open the Apple News feed and this taped back rubber tits?
	Bro, we're going to start like churning butter.
	Like, I'm out, man.
	I'm like, I'm opening this stuff to see what the weather is, and it's like, this is a dude with taped tits!
	And I'm like, you know what?
	I'm out.
	I'm out.
	You guys have crossed one too many bridge.
	One too many bridge.
	I'm out.
	Colton isn't even his real name.
	It's Coulter.
	Yeah, Coulter.
	Coulter.
	Coulter.
	I don't even know.
	It sounds like a TV name.
	Sounds awful.
	Sounds like an awful name.
	Coulter.
	Coulter Alexander displays his taped back breasts on Instagram in a bid to show us the beauty Of the physical process of changing sex.
	So an actual quote was, when the revelation hit him, meaning her, he posted an SOS on Tumblr about needing a doctor who would understand the urgency of his need for testosterone and found a man who told him where...
	Can you imagine that doctor?
	Like, I don't think the chemo's...
	Out of my way!
	Someone needs some duct tape for their areolas.
	I can't imagine, like, falling off...
	Like, this is an emergency, right?
	I can't imagine, like, falling off the ladder and being like, honey...
	Quick!
	Post something to Tumblr!
	Make sure the world knows my story!
	Are you here, uh, do you have polio?
	No, I want, I want, like, fat, fake tits.
	It's really a vaccine, but I hear they make you retarded.
	No, no.
	Coulter hires a Jew.
	Um, we are, this is another quote from there.
	We are real people with real emotions, and I love that it asks, and we aren't out to steal your partner, said Coulter.
	Thank you.
	That's what keeps us up at night.
	Can you imagine the ego?
	Can you imagine the ego?
	Like, don't worry.
	We're out to steal your partner.
	Yeah, we got it.
	Like, someone else is like an appendectomy.
	Like, ugh!
	I said this procedure, by the way, I don't want to pork your wife.
	And people who talk like this are always doing what they say they're not going to do.
	It's always like, I'm telling you, my apartment is very safe for women.
	It's like, who would say that?
	We're not here to steal your partner?
	That's a guy trying to steal your partner.
	That's a woman who wants to be a guy stealing your partner.
	Literally, no one's worried about this.
	Did you see these pictures?
	Here's something that no one wants to talk about.
	Like, my wife had a friend who's gay.
	I won't say his name, but who was gay.
	And it wasn't that he was gay that I didn't like him.
	It's that he was bitchy.
	Like, he was the gay guy where the only common ground he had was he would talk about the Kardashians, who was fat, how bad their wardrobe was.
	Like, he was the kind of girl who would be like, hey, I don't like you.
	But because he's gay, he gets a pat.
	I'm like, look at these pictures.
	This is a tranny.
	It's Geraldo Rivera pictures time.
	If you saw a straight guy on Instagram and it was nothing but those pictures, you'd be like, oh, that guy's a douchebag.
	That's a douchebag.
	It's so, like, a vain douchebag.
	Like, the guy at the gym who everyone hates...
	And is a douchebag.
	But because they're transgender.
	Oh wow, yeah.
	It's like a douchebag with like really fat tits.
	By the way, I want to prove to transgenders that, you know, you can truly transform and become a man and put on muscle mass like I've done.
	Weighs a whopping 118 pounds.
	He does.
	Went into the conversion from stones.
	Like, there is no weight class in a male sport that you could even join.
	Right.
	It is just, it's just, it's just, people are like, why are you talking about, we're going to talk about Title IX. We'll talk about DACA with Dave Rubin.
	This matters because of the fact that everyone just wants us to play by rules.
	No one has agreed to except for them.
	And I think that's wonderful because I think more people are turning on them.
	But this is someone who is a self-important, egotistical narcissist taking pictures of themselves, putting it online with rubber tits.
	Not rubber.
	I guess real tits.
	I guess rubber pecs.
	I don't know.
	And they try to act like this is some...
	This person is...
	It's an unveiling of this wonderful new form of beauty that we've missed.
	We're proud to announce the improved Coulter profile, with reduced appearance of tits through breakthrough use of masking tape, and having glued it to her ribcage.
	We've added facial piercings and a chin strap beard, reducing femininity while increasing douchebaggery by 50%.
	Aluminium.
	And most impressively, we've managed to fit all this into a package, weighing in at a record-breaking 118 pounds.
	The headphone jack is still there.
	That's all anyone wanted to know.
	That's all you want to know.
	That and wireless charging.
	That's hilarious.
	You were going to say something before we...
	Oh, I was going to get bitter.
	As a 6'7 man, I get bitter looking at how chiseled that dude is because it's like, all he has to do is just not drink water for four hours and he's Brad Pitt from Fight Club.
	Yeah, it is remarkable what happens when you actually just get to select, I'm going to take this hormone, and it's not steroids because I'm a tranny, and it's totally acceptable.
	Like, imagine if you could just optimize every single hormone right, if you did it right now, you'd be considered mentally ill and abusing the law.
	They do it.
	It's beauty.
	I feel guilty about lattes.
	Like, if I drink too many lattes, I'm like, I feel like I have an edge over my friends because I have so much energy.
	Am I bombing today?
	No.
	I'm just kidding.
	I was drinking steroids.
	I get it.
	It's a performance-enhancing drug.
	It is a performance-enhancing drug.
	We've talked about this before.
	A guy on steroids, picture Arnold, picture Lee Priest, any of these crazy bodybuilders like the freak shows you see on magazine covers, they do not enjoy the hormonal advantage over any of us as men as we enjoy just naturally over women.
	It's not even close.
	It's not even close.
	It's several, several, several times over.
	Google right now testosterone cancer or growth hormone cancer.
	I don't buy into it in small doses, but the truth is if you take mega doses of any kind of hormone that is foreign to your body, there is a strong argument that this enhances and accelerates the growth of cancer.
	You'll see this everywhere in all these whole foods.
	They will avoid using pesticides on fruit because these could act as hormone blockers or mimickers in the body in BPA-free bottles.
	When I inject testosterone directly into my scrotum, however, all of a sudden the science gets a little murky.
	I enjoy, like at 37, I've had a slight downtick and I've enjoyed the peace.
	I'm like, wow, I can get a stamp collection.
	I'm wearing Spanish.
	I'm not just constantly thinking about fighting people.
	Right.
	I'm like, oh, thank you for stopping screaming in my ears, balls.
	Why do people want more of that?
	It's like angel and devil, only it's just balls and balls until you're about 35 as a man.
	All right, Title IX. You asked me this before.
	I said we were going to talk about this today.
	This is because it's best seed of loss in the campus rape.
	This is a discussion a lot of people were asking us to clarify earlier this week, but for the same reason when we prep these segments and now people are mad that we're still providing relief to Harvey.
	They're like, why not Irma?
	Well, because we already promised the relief money to Harvey.
	We were already prepping Title IX, and now DACA's coming out.
	We'll talk about that next week.
	So, Title IX campus rape.
	This is an important topic, because it ruins people's lives.
	Let's set this for people who don't really know.
	We just throw around the term and Betsy DeVos and Tidal Line.
	Okay.
	Tidal Line is a portion of the United States education amendments from 1972.
	And this is what it says.
	No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving federal financial assistance.
	And you were asking me earlier, like, you thought it was a sport thing.
	It can be sort of broad.
	I thought that was about, like, letting women swim.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I don't necessarily know.
	I'm sure it carries over.
	Yeah, because we had Title IX in high school, and we had to go through the motions of giving women a football team, and then no one showed up, and then everyone had to pretend that they showed up.
	And we're like, okay, on to Section 10.
	We have to find a sport that women can do that people will show up to watch.
	Swim team.
	Can we take back their tits?
	Never!
	Never.
	So how did this come to have any relevance to campus sexual assault?
	Okay, 2011, Obama's Education Department wrote a Dear Colleague letter to all colleges outlining new procedures for detailing and detailed and showed them how to deal with campus sexual assault.
	Okay, so what did this do?
	It reinterpreted Title IX as actually giving the federal government the authority to dictate all of the procedures that colleges would use to address sexual assault allegations.
	But, by the way, if you read this, we have a link to the PDF, cited all the research, like the one in five women are raped.
	I don't know if the 77 cents...
	Imagine this, this is the president sending out, we're going to reform this because one in five women are raped.
	It's like poll was done at an awful party.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	The people reading this, do they have Google?
	Do they have Google?
	No?
	Yeah, we're just going to go with one in five.
	Verifiably false.
	And that's where you get conspiratorial.
	Does the President of the United States not know that that's untrue?
	Because I know he went to Harvard.
	I know he was overseeing the Harvard Law Review, even though nothing was ever published from that point.
	It was one of the darkest But still, we hear he's really smart, right?
	So this required universities, based on these false sort of premises, to allow accusers, by the way, to appeal not guilty findings, which is basically a violation of double jeopardy.
	By the way, great film.
	Great film.
	Very good film.
	Ashley Judd.
	She looked like a slightly attractive older lady back then.
	She still does today.
	Well, she did not choose.
	She did not choose when she gets her period.
	Did you ever see that?
	Dude, I was thinking a face-off.
	John Travolta and Nick Cage?
	Yeah, I made a bad...
	Yeah, I didn't know it.
	Okay, so you can appeal not guilty findings, and it strongly discourage cross-examination.
	So the most important point here is that the Obama administration actually demanded that colleges use what's called the lower burden of proof.
	Now, it's not just terminology.
	It's actually a legal term.
	So this means that instead of proving beyond a reasonable doubt, as we have to do in our legal system, the accuser, when it dealt with campus rape, only had to prove that it was likely to Basically possible that a sexual assault could happen.
	Were you alive on Wednesday?
	Then it could have happened.
	Was Dorian like a jury of my peers?
	No.
	She's already carrying the SIRTA. Your peers are now kangaroos.
	See, people don't understand.
	They're really in Simone Benjamin kangaroo courts.
	But it is true.
	These are effectively kangaroo courts.
	It's like Lord of the Flies on campus.
	So this is what happened.
	We're setting this up so you understand the actual history of it.
	Please go read more.
	Read the PDF that's your colleague letter.
	So what did this actually do in practice?
	A record number.
	Of people have been expelled for sexual assault with no evidence at all.
	More than a hundred people have or are now suing universities for violating their due process rights.
	So this is important because the attack against Betsy DeVos, and we'll talk with Roman Millennial about it.
	Hint, not everyone agrees with angry feminists.
	The attack is, well, she's condoning rape.
	You see that from Planned Parenthood.
	You see it from Cecile Rich.
	You see it from all these people on Twitter.
	I can't believe every woman, every woman who claims a victim of sexual assault deserves to be heard.
	What about the guy who's been accused of sexual assault, who didn't do it?
	We can play that game, too.
	You know, you can play that game on either side of it, and this is how they try to paint it.
	If you somehow oppose the interpretation of Title IX, which Betsy DeVos does, which has destroyed countless lives, you're a rape apologist.
	That's why we wanted to get into this.
	Now, what has this done in practice?
	Let's give you some examples because everyone knows, you know Mattress Girl, right?
	Yeah.
	Mattress Girl, UVA, the Rolling Stone, Duke Lacrosse.
	So these are ones that everyone knows.
	But again, hundreds of people are suing because of violation of the due process, right?
	So let's give you some examples of Title IX abuse that you might not know about.
	So Amherst College, 2012.
	Male student passed out at a party after drinking too much.
	While he was unconscious, his girlfriend's roommate performed...
	Fellatio.
	I guess we'll say this is going on on broadcast.
	On him.
	Oh.
	See, now that I said fellatio, you just undid me all the...
	I was trying to be clean about it, but adding the O, I could have just said blowjob.
	Blowjob.
	Thanks.
	Oh.
	Someone doubts now what he was talking about.
	So she texted her friends about it.
	This is an actual story.
	This is actually probably even way worse than Matrix Girl.
	I don't know why I didn't get the same press.
	Direct quote in the text was, oh my god, I just did something so effing stupid.
	She was worried her roommate would never talk to her again because of what she'd done.
	And she texted, quote, it's pretty obvious I wasn't an innocent bystander.
	Now, she wasn't raped, but...
	For using the term obvi, someone could understand why one might be aggressive with her.
	Yeah, that's a weird ebreeve.
	So two years later, after this, she accused him of sexual assault.
	The result, the guy was expelled.
	When the girl's friend came forward with texts showing that she was actually the guilty party, the college refused to open the case.
	Now keep in mind, the guilty man in this case was never even charged with a crime.
	So this is another example at Amherst College.
	Imagine, she blew a guy in his sleep and then two years later said she was sexually assaulted.
	There was evidence to the contrary and this guy's life is ruined.
	This is not atypical, by the way.
	I feel like the whole, like, the timeline is so weird when you see these, like, if you got violently raped in the alley right now, would you, like, realize that?
	Like, a couple years down the road, maybe?
	Guys, I'm never falling asleep again.
	I feel like maybe I was raped?
	It's time for me to step forward.
	Blockbuster raped me with their overcharges.
	And I've been waiting for 20 years.
	$21 for Willow.
	Time to collect.
	Time to collect, Blockbuster.
	Cut the check.
	I think there's a law.
	You can't collect if Val Kilmer is no longer recognizable.
	That's a good point.
	I think he's just living in Al Roker's fat suit.
	He'll never hide me here.
	University of Finalean, Ohio.
	Here's another one.
	2014.
	Here's something.
	Often Title IX affects people of minority status on campus.
	People don't realize that.
	What do you do now?
	Justin Browning and Alfonso Beatty II. Who's the first?
	There was no first.
	We just like a name.
	It sounds distinguished.
	The second is his middle name.
	Two black athletes, so each had separate sexual encounters with a white female student one Saturday night, September 14 at a party.
	Okay.
	According to witnesses, she initiated both encounters.
	They were consensual.
	She even came out of the room between encounters and paraded in front of other friends naked in the residence.
	Now, does this mean she's guilty?
	She should be sexually assaulted?
	No, that's not at all what I'm saying.
	Don't say we're rape apologists.
	She then spent the entire night with Justin Browning and bragged to several friends afterward regarding the sexual encounters.
	Okay?
	Thirteen days later, she filed a sexual assault complaint against both men.
	Only two days later, they were both expelled.
	Now, before even providing Browning or Beatty with any chance to appeal the decision, the school actually issued a campus-wide alert announcing their expulsion, and their names and photos were printed in a local paper.
	It's like an amber alert for fake rape.
	What color would that be?
	I just don't get why my wife doesn't parade after our sexual encounters.
	She does.
	She talks to me about it.
	She never parades.
	We talk all the time.
	She just has a look of shame.
	What were you trying to say?
	Did you just make a joke about the man's wife?
	No.
	You could probably reach over there and kick his ass right there.
	I'm already planning it.
	The university, by the way, never followed up with any kind of evidence, and they denied the appeals.
	Again, they were never charged with a crime, let alone found guilty.
	Here's one that I find interesting.
	And the reason why is because, you know, we see all these bullying, anti-bullying campaigns from the left.
	Same people who hope that Betsy DeVos gets raped, but, you know, the rules get a little murky.
	So, gay male student, University of Texas at Arlington.
	He accused Thomas Klock.
	It could be cloak.
	I could be mispronouncing it here.
	It's like the Koch brothers.
	Who would pronounce it that way?
	You would say Koch.
	Or Koch.
	Koch.
	He accused Thomas Klock of writing anti-gay slurs on his computer during class.
	So basically the idea was like he wrote an anti-gay slur and turned it over to the gay guy.
	He wrote apparently all gays should die into his search bar and then called the gay student a f**k it.
	So basically there was no evidence.
	The administration admitted there was no evidence.
	And Clark actually said that the gay student had been hitting on him, typing your beautiful into his search bar and showing it to him, and Clark responded, hey, stop, I'm straight, and asked him to leave, which, by the way, is borderline committing a hate crime nowadays.
	Just saying no to a gay man is seen as far more aggressive than a woman saying no to a male.
	Believe me, I've had this happen in the workplace.
	Why did you say no to him?
	Do you have a problem with gay guys?
	What?
	No, I'm just not gay.
	Well, is that what it is?
	Are you homophobic?
	I'm just not a homosexual.
	This is a fanny pack only zone, bro.
	So the gay student was friends.
	This is important to note.
	Friends with the associate VP of student affairs, Heather Snow.
	She then went on to write a complaint for the gay student and punished...
	The alleged man in question without even contacting the Title IX coordinator at the school.
	Now, Clark never received a hearing.
	He was prohibited from having contact with anyone in the class, which meant that it was impossible for him to contact any witnesses to corroborate his story.
	The school still required him to take exams for classes that he was prohibited from attending.
	He was placed on academic probation, and basically, the disciplinary record was going to keep him out of grad school, which he'd planned on attending.
	Now, if this sounds right, this is important, because he'd planned on attending grad school.
	All of this, no evidence.
	The person happened to be friends with the vice president over there at the committee.
	Days after all of this, Klock killed himself.
	No history of mental health problems.
	By all accounts, happy, looking forward to graduation, moving on to grad school.
	Here's what's important for people to understand.
	Rape is a horrible crime.
	And I think every guy in this room would say, yeah, rape is terrible.
	I don't think anyone here wants to see anyone raped.
	I think if we knew a man who were an actual rapist, we'd probably beat him within an inch of his life.
	But it is life-destroying.
	To simply throw the accusation of rape, especially on campus where it follows you for the rest of your life, there's nothing you can do about it.
	Think about that.
	Imagining all of your life's plans are destroyed by a gay guy with an axe to grind who's friends with someone who happened to be a VP over there in the Title IX department.
	Can you imagine how hopeless that would be?
	This is, again, that culture of victims.
	We need to appease these, creating actual victims.
	Where's the anti-bullying campaign here?
	Hey, say no to hate.
	Don't bully the kid with a lisp.
	Well, you drove a guy to killing himself because you didn't even allow him the legal tools that are available to anyone not at your university.
	You were talking about this before when we did the show.
	It was a really good point, Owen.
	You were talking about, you know, you have a choice of, as a guy, being the monster.
	Yeah, the monster.
	Yeah, I mean, that just bummed me out, man.
	That's crazy.
	Oh, sorry.
	No, no.
	It's just like, I mean, that other guy is such a f***.
	No, but honestly though...
	That'll get a celebrity video where a bunch of people say the same phrase.
	Do you know?
	Do you know?
	Do you know when you say f*** it?
	But it doesn't matter if you just falsely accuse a guy of rape.
	I was just in Europe for two weeks, so I believe he was a bundle of sticks.
	Yes.
	That's what they call a pack of cigarettes.
	It's changed meaning for a long time.
	They did an episode of that on South Park.
	You can't give so much power just to words that hurt people's feelings and then remove powers from institutions that allow us to protect ourselves legally as per the Constitution.
	We want everyone to be afraid of, oh no, there's a vowel!
	But we don't want them to actually have the ability to protect themselves, which, hey, that's kind of the founding of our country.
	Should constitutional rights apply to a student?
	Yeah, if he's an American citizen, these are the same people who want us to apply constitutional rights to people who are not American citizens, but we require no actual proof beyond a reasonable doubt to ruin a man's life for the rest of his life.
	And if you speak out against it, you're a rape apologist.
	This is why Title IX is so important.
	And even if you don't like Betsy DeVos, I don't think she was most experienced.
	We'll talk about this with Roaming Millennial.
	I'm sure she has some opinions.
	When you look, again, it makes you kind of like with Donald Trump.
	It makes me have to defend her more because there absolutely needs to be a change here.
	You will destroy a generation of men forever.
	But hey, what do I know?
	I'm just a guy who encourages people to rape on Saturday night.
	night.
	We'll have Roman millennial after this.
	Yeah, you know, I don't even know what she is.
	I think she's like Polynesian.
	No, no, no.
	I heard Latina.
	- Okay, that definitely hurts, but shh, shh, shh, shh, shh.
	- Look where she goes now with her strange complexion.
	Nondescript features, hard to tell. - I heard she's from Japan. - No, she's half Mexicans.
	- No denying she is far too peg-back girl. - Bonjour.
	Or is it hola?
	Bonjour!
	Aloha!
	Konnichiwa!
	Is she Chinese?
	No Puerto Rican!
	There must be more than this biracial life.
	And now listen to this.
	We'll see you next time.
	Just want to see how awkward we can make introducing her.
	All right.
	In studio.
	You know her.
	Achieved.
	You love her.
	What?
	Achieved.
	Achieved.
	Awkward level unlocked.
	Dance as low as you.
	Well, you're so...
	Hold on.
	Let me get the plug in.
	YouTube, roaming millennial, roaming mill on Twitter because that bastard Jack Dorsey makes you shorten it.
	He's triggering OCD across the planet.
	Are you OCD? I mean...
	Or are you just half Asian?
	If I say yes, all of these OCD advocates are going to be like...
	Yeah, that's one of those things, too, where people say, I'm bipolar.
	No, you're not.
	I know people who are bipolar.
	It's not fun, but I'm not going to make a thing out of it.
	So maybe it's just OCD people who are obsessive-compulsive about not having a sense of humor.
	Yeah, weird.
	Roaming Mill, 1L, right?
	We were just talking about this before the break.
	You can't watch yourself.
	No, no, it triggers me.
	It triggers me.
	So you're not going to be watching any of these Beauty and the Beast?
	Oh, no, especially not those.
	Especially not those.
	By the way, I guarantee you've gained the respect of countless fans here just for having done it.
	Oh, no doubt.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	I will say this.
	Most women...
	Respectfully.
	Most women are not funny.
	And that's just, you know what it is?
	Most women are not willing to embarrass themselves.
	I do think that's true.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Well, and I feel like we, this is mostly guys, like I told you beforehand, I'm like, listen, you don't have to wear any of this stuff if you don't want to.
	She just came right out of the costume room.
	She's like, here I am.
	Let's roll.
	I'm in a bra made of seashells.
	Well, I feel like once you're already out there on the internet, people are taking the crap out of you anyways, right?
	So there's really nothing you can do to make it worse at this point.
	So I was like, yeah.
	You take a lot of crap.
	And I will say that you take a lot because I think it's pretty well known that you're a Christian conservative.
	And even though you've sort of, you've talked a lot about this sort of populist nationalist movement, you're not alt-right.
	So you get flack from obviously liberals, you get flack from feminists, and then you get flack from the alt-right.
	It's pretty rare.
	It seems like people have We have to walk this straight and narrow right now if we still want to maintain a conservative fan base in the era of Pepe memes.
	Was that a conscious decision or is it just something that happened?
	I just like upsetting people, apparently.
	Yes.
	And there have actually been videos where it's like...
	Including your mother, because you're not a lawyer or a doctor.
	Right, that's true.
	Or your dad, sorry, your dad is Asian.
	Yeah, the Asian guilt.
	It's hard to, yeah.
	But there have actually been videos where I've managed to, I guess, skillfully trigger all these different segments.
	I mean, but for me, it's just like, I guess it's maybe because being a Christian conservative, there are so few people out there already that kind of have those views or that think it's an acceptable way to live your life, I guess.
	So, I mean, anytime you say something that's kind of, you know, even like there's a lot of skeptic anti-feminists out there on the internet right now, like on YouTube, it's a very popular opinion to have.
	But there have been videos where I've kind of, I guess, strayed from that.
	And then, you know, even some subscribers who might love all my other videos, as soon as they kind of get a hint of that, oh, you're not just anti-feminist, you're also this.
	Well, you have moral standards.
	And people, anytime you have moral standards, people feel judged.
	So I've gotten that, too, where I wrote an article.
	I was like, hey, be a real man.
	Stop bad-mouthing your wife.
	I was like, well, listen, you know, I actually love my wife.
	I actually really enjoy spending time with her.
	And I don't think it's very becoming, shall we say, to just go around and just trash your wife.
	And a lot of these people are like, man, I used to have respect.
	You're a total cuck.
	I'm like, I don't think you realize that.
	That term means I like to watch somebody have sexual intercourse with my wife.
	So you're the opposite of what you say.
	Yes.
	I don't badmouth her because I like engaging in relations.
	Yeah, but it's funny what can upset people now.
	I remember on Twitter, stupid thing, there was this article in Time about how this woman, like, making her marriage open made the marriage even better for her, and I kind of took issue with it.
	Like, hey, maybe if you want to be sleeping with other people, marriage might not be for you, and I upset all these polyamorous people.
	Yes.
	Somehow.
	And it's like, really, if we can't even say that you shouldn't sleep with other people when you're married, is there just no...
	I can just see the comment section.
	But here's the thing.
	Ignore the comment section, because normal people, they watch a video, and if they enjoy it, they move on.
	It's the crazy people in the comment section right now.
	By the way, the compliments are awful.
	I will say one thing.
	As a woman on the internet, the compliments are...
	Usually more vulgar than he insults.
	Yeah, true.
	And like weird stuff, too.
	Yeah, weird stuff.
	Do you have any weird pictures sent to you?
	I don't have anything open where people can send me pictures.
	I know some people have their Snapchats open.
	Mine is absolutely not.
	Well, check your inbox after this.
	So we were just talking about this.
	Title IX, Betsy DeVos.
	You're a woman.
	Rape on campus.
	Mm-hmm.
	Your opinions.
	Well, I mean, I know you guys- First off, you've never been raped on campus, right?
	No, or anywhere else, just if we're- Well, there's a first time for everything.
	Who knows?
	But yeah, I mean, so I went to USC in California my freshman year, and the rest of the time I was at BYU, which are two completely different campus experiences, but- Did you live on campus?
	Right, yeah.
	I lived on campus when I was- And you weren't raped on campus?
	I know.
	Weird.
	You are a unicorn.
	Continue.
	Weird.
	But, I mean, you guys have covered this on this show.
	Women on campuses are less likely to be raped or assaulted in any way than women in the surrounding towns.
	And I think, you know, that makes sense.
	If you look at the kind of guys who are in university, or women, because anyone can rape, they're generally better to do, better educated, which, statistically speaking, makes them less likely to commit any crimes.
	And I think all of this hysteria over campus rapes, it's actually kind of...
	I mean, in my opinion, it's delegitimizing actual instances...
	Of rape.
	Right.
	And I don't know, this whole thing with Title IX, I just don't think that schools should be dealing with rapes at all.
	I mean, because that's an actual crime.
	If you're assaulted, you can go to the real police and they will actually, you know, look into this, maybe arrest the person.
	Like, there's a trial.
	You don't need schools to be doing this at all.
	Right.
	What's ironic is these are the same people who just think it's a travesty of human rights that, you know, in Guantanamo Bay, terrorists who are not American citizens aren't subject to American constitutional rights, and they put them before these human rights tribunals, but they have no problem doing it with a man who, a woman just needs to say rape.
	And you could be at the salad bar at your campus cafeteria, and they're just going to tackle and tase you.
	Your day's done.
	Just a girl even just says, and they'll finish it for you.
	And it's like Marco Polo, and you're done.
	Right, and what's so upsetting to me, at least, is, you know, after Betsy DeVos came out and gave her statement, so many people were acting like she was just saying, rape is legal now.
	Have at it!
	No, that's the sense you're watching!
	Go nuts!
	Go for our kid!
	There's a difference between saying rape is okay and, hey, rights of the accused are a thing, you know, due process, let's think about this, but in the minds of these...
	I don't know, these crazy feminists.
	If you even question that maybe we should sort of look into this before jumping on board, hey, this guy is a rapist, it means you're rape complicit.
	Why would they lie?
	No women ever lie about anything ever.
	I know.
	Yeah, it looks like Mattress Girl.
	Can you imagine being that guy and you have to watch your college graduation from a...
	A livestream, and you see that girl walking out there with the mattress, like Simon with the cross.
	No, but it's upsetting because...
	It was Simon, right?
	With a cross?
	Was it Simon?
	Was it Simon or was it Thomas?
	Wait, who was the Carious Cross?
	I'm trying to think of a song.
	Oh, crap.
	This is embarrassing.
	This is not good.
	You should know this.
	We'll fix this.
	Why should me more than you guys?
	Someone...
	Hey, I don't know.
	Equal opportunity.
	I don't know.
	You seem like a moral lady.
	Anyway, yeah.
	Can you imagine that, though?
	Imagine being that guy.
	I think it's horrible to be raped.
	Yeah, of course.
	Of course.
	No one on the other side of this...
	No one in this conversation at all thinks it's okay to rape, right?
	No, she only said that during the commercial break.
	But the point is...
	Imagine watching that and some lady going to work carrying her mattress and you know you're like, I have the text right here of her requesting sodomy and me being like, no thanks.
	Here's the thing, even though we know it's not true now, that guy's life is devastated.
	Yeah, and it's so frustrating because they're...
	There were multiple instances where we found out, oh, by the way, this woman was lying.
	I mean, I don't know if you guys saw this, but there was that lesbian who actually got prosecuted for, she sent, I think, she accused at least five guys and one of them actually did hard time based on her rape allegations.
	She accused him of raping her?
	Yeah.
	I think it was more like a suggestion.
	Yeah.
	But no, one of them actually got punished at least, and now she's finally, you know, I guess everything was found out, and she actually got sentenced and everything.
	So it's like, we know for a fact that at least some of these aren't true, but for some reason we can't actually bring it up, or else we love rape.
	I don't understand why we can't...
	You know, I wasn't a huge...
	By the way, I spent a lot of time in Grand Rapids, Betsy DeVos.
	The DeVos family have turned it into a great town.
	DeVos is Van Andels.
	People love to hate them because they're wealthy.
	They do a lot.
	There's a reason it's the opposite of Detroit, somebody said.
	There's a reason Grand Rapids is booming.
	It's the opposite of Detroit.
	Some people are saying they're making a bid for the Amazon headquarters.
	Anyway, I mean, no place really in the Midwest could possibly do that outside of Grand Rapids and maybe Chicago now, but really that's just a few Teamsters come in and whack stuff off your table and say, you want to go here to Chicago, huh?
	I don't know why that was a horrible voice.
	But the point is, I still, even though I don't hate the DeVosses at all, they're great people, I was like, ah, she's probably not the most qualified for this job.
	Yeah, I feel the same way.
	But now, again, this is kind of like what the left did with Donald Trump.
	This is something that should be entirely reasonable to everyone, going, hey, men deserve due process.
	Right.
	And she's excoriating as though she's a monster, and as though that's something that most women would disagree with.
	And there was actually this professor that, I think it was a tweet, he hoped Betsy DeVos would be sexually assaulted because of this.
	As to prove some point.
	Oh, you want men to have due process?
	Well, I hope you get raped, because that makes sense.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he wants her raped on principle.
	Of course, because he's very principled.
	He's a man of upstanding moral fiber!
	I can look at that young lady who disagrees with me and I can tell you!
	I hope she gets raped!
	Firmly!
	They're in a contest to see who can show how much they hate rape the most, and apparently if you really, really hate rape as much as they do, then you don't even need proof because you hate it so much.
	Just the allegation of it should be enough.
	Yeah.
	And if you really, really hate rape, you rape Betsy DeVos.
	Right.
	That's the crown jewel in the hating rape.
	So here's one thing I would like to ask you, because as a young woman, you're not married.
	Does it concern you at all that guys are going to be afraid and you'll be an old spinster?
	It doesn't matter how pretty you are or how kind you are.
	I don't even want to touch it because all you need to do is say rape.
	Does it worry you that guys are getting turned off from women?
	They're being scared away from women.
	They're being scared away from being That's a statistical reality.
	Have you seen it?
	I mean, listen, this is not rape.
	You're an attractive young girl.
	I'm sure there are plenty of suitors, plenty of people in the comments section right now who will do horrible things just to get downwind from you.
	But do you find that it's changed the dynamic as a woman sort of being courted by a man?
	Well, definitely.
	I think dating culture is completely different than it was even 20 years ago.
	And I get all of these requests from people who are subscribed to me, specifically men, who want me to do videos about dating, how to meet women who haven't been indoctrinated by this crazy ideology that teaches them that all men are predators because, I mean, it's dangerous for a man now to just, you know, try to be like, hey, you know, how you doing?
	Like, want to get some coffee?
	Can I have your number set?
	Like, that might be harassment, right?
	Honestly, that might be harassment to some feminists.
	It's a scary position to be in when you're a young guy and, you know, maybe you don't have a lot of dating experience.
	This is new.
	You're trying to meet new people.
	But there's this very, very concerted effort and narrative to teach young women that they should be afraid of men.
	That's a good point.
	And I think, I don't think, I don't think any young women are buying it, but I do think that it's kind of like kids who see their parents fight unfairly.
	They know that it's a bargaining chip and a manipulation tool.
	I don't think young girls are afraid of men, but I think they know, oh, I just say that he raped and I get what I want.
	Not all women, but I do think some.
	Let me ask you this.
	So for you, how long have we been talking here?
	Because sometimes I'm going to go on forever.
	Yeah, 12.
	Okay.
	Good.
	All right.
	Because we have Dave Rubin on the show and then we have other people.
	It's just a crazy show.
	Yesterday we had no show because there was no internet.
	How does that happen in 2017?
	I mean, I've been in Canada, so very frequently.
	How often do you not get internet in Canada?
	Montréal, Tuesday, Thursday.
	Sometimes it's no power at all.
	Yeah, I know.
	Just like not even electricity in general.
	Just peace out.
	I was going to have it or not, but it fell down the sinkhole.
	You guys had sinkholes in Montreal.
	People don't realize that.
	It was consistent sinkholes.
	They were really deep.
	People just disappear.
	Didn't you have people who disappeared that never found sinkholes?
	I'm not sure if they ever found them, but I know definitely that's a thing.
	I need to grab a few people and go to Canada.
	Yeah.
	For sure.
	The people in Montreal for six months were living in tremors.
	It was awful.
	It's a questionable level of development.
	Well, you know, and one thing, this is important because people, they sort of gloss over it, and Title IX was trending, and so Betsy DeVos is just sort of the person they copy-paste all of their sort of negative emotions to.
	Let me ask you this.
	As someone, you've obviously probably had guys ask you out on dates.
	Let's say, have you ever had an example where a guy might have asked you, like I said, to go out to coffee or a movie, and you weren't interested?
	Has that ever happened?
	Mm-hmm.
	How do you handle that?
	Um, no, no thank you.
	You just say no thank you.
	Have you ever had a guy like, oh sure, and try to follow up maybe again, maybe make a second try?
	Like, do you feel really uncomfortable if that happens?
	Do you take that as harassment?
	What do you see as getting into that level of harassment?
	Oh, that's hard.
	I mean, if it's just like a stranger asking me out on the street, you know, there's always the, oh, I'm a lesbian.
	Oh, I have a boyfriend.
	Those are great ways to just, you know.
	Have you actually used that?
	Yeah.
	They look at you, you're like, I'm a lesbian.
	Like one of the movies, they go, they do exist.
	I just thought it was butch-cutted chain gangs who editorialize at BuzzFeed, so you've used that.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Yeah, but I mean, I've never had a guy...
	I mean, actually, since starting my channel, there was this really awkward, like, ex-patron who kind of...
	That was, like, actually one of the first times where I was actually scared of someone.
	It was, like, that level of harassment.
	I thought you'd say ex-patron, because he was, like, one of the first to hit the tip jar.
	You're like, oh, thank you!
	This is amazing.
	He's like, no.
	I want you to get the Johnson& Johnson.
	Now you owe him.
	And open-toe sandals.
	Yeah.
	But, I mean, aside from that, in real life, maybe it's just the kind of people I hang out with.
	But, I mean, most if not all the guys who I've either gone out with and it didn't work out or they've asked me out have been, in general, pretty respectful.
	And I think part of it is also I don't really go out a lot.
	I don't go to clubs and stuff like that.
	So I feel like a lot of these situations maybe I'm just...
	You know, I'm not hip with it.
	I'm not in the social scene, maybe.
	That's my problem, too.
	I just don't go to the right clubs.
	Yeah, you don't go to the right clubs.
	Well, the problem is he's going entirely to the right clubs, and now he has to see his doctor every other Thursday.
	So, the reason I ask you is because I can't ask it to...
	I mean, I've asked this question, obviously, to my wife.
	It's just something that you can't necessarily ask to someone who isn't being propositioned, like the lesbians who falsely accuse rape.
	It is important to note, like, I understand that men can be aggressive.
	Like, that's also not something that we're denying as a reality.
	But women also can't deny the reality that, I mean, men at some point actually have to make a move.
	Make a pass.
	And my question, I guess, being in college, being an educated person, do you think most women agree with the anti-Betsy DeVos, agree that just every single person who claims rape should be believed?
	Or do you think most women would probably say, yeah, due process?
	Because we certainly hear the feminists scream the loudest.
	That's really hard.
	And, you know, just in general, I would love to say that, no, these feminists, they're this really small minority, but maybe it's because, you know, I'm the age that I am, I'm younger, and a lot of my friends who are women, you know, I met them in university, they tend to be more liberal as well.
	It's not that small percentage of women that would believe this.
	And I mean, it's definitely not, you know, not everybody.
	But I think a lot of women would kind of agree like, oh, no, like, yeah, like, there's more weight on, I guess, the accuser.
	And I think part of that is maybe because they've been indoctrinated the way they have been to believe that, you know, just the allegation enough is like, we can't even touch that or else it's being insensitive and it might upset them.
	Yeah, everyone.
	Anytime you charge an issue, and you're like, well, you know what?
	No uterus, no opinion.
	Well, you know what?
	If you've never been raped, you don't know what it's like.
	It's like, well, neither do you, Ms.
	Lesbian, apparently.
	Do you think they respect Betty DeVos' opinion a little more if she was just raped?
	Just a little bit.
	Yeah, do you think if she, like, would she get a rape card?
	No, because she's conservative, so that doesn't count.
	That's true.
	She would just be like, you know what?
	I am actually a victim of rape.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, that's her fault because, I mean, of the views she was expressing.
	Did you see them?
	And the way she dresses.
	Awful.
	Well, she's a white female, so, you know, someone's getting her back for Harvey because that's her fault.
	Roaming Millennial on the YouTube.
	Roaming Mill on Twitter.
	And hopefully we'll see more of you on this channel.
	Where can people support you?
	People can find me on YouTube, like you said.
	RoamingMillennial.com is also my website.
	I post exclusive videos there sometime.
	Instagram, yeah.
	Hedging your bets with the YouTube adpocalypse posting to your site.
	Yeah, you know, I have a love-hate relationship with YouTube, and I'm sure you understand that as well.
	I know, I know.
	I get it.
	Sometimes I feel like YouTube has falsely accused me of rape.
	I do sometimes.
	And then I realize, oh, I did do a little bit of it.
	We will be back after this.
	We have more, lots more.
	Roman Millennial, isn't she lovely?
	You can watch the sketches.
	She can't.
	There it is again, so strong.
	Do you trust me?
	Yes.
	Do you need anything before we go?
	Do you need to use the bathroom?
	Oh, no.
	I'm okay.
	Do you want some self-to-wear?
	I think I've got some self-to-wear down here.
	No, it's okay.
	I'm good.
	This will be good for us.
	I can show you the world like your homeland of Indonesia.
	Chi...
	Cam...
	Bo...
	South America...
	Thailand?
	Maybe?
	No, not Tyler.
	Reach the wizard.
	All right.
	Glad to have our next guest.
	Love him.
	Love him.
	Love the guy.
	Very nice guy.
	Well, love's a strong word.
	I don't dislike him.
	And I don't wish bad things for him.
	No.
	You know him on YouTube.
	Ruben Report on Twitter at Ruben Report.
	He was off the grid for about a month.
	I thought he was just sore with us.
	I didn't really know.
	Dave Ruben, how are you, sir?
	Crowder, I just really did not want to do your show for a month, and I just really went all in and completely disappeared altogether.
	Get in line.
	You are not the first person to do this.
	I've just had numbers changed on me for that exact reason.
	You got a beard going on, so was this part of the off-the-grid deal, or did you just want to?
	It was a part of the plan.
	Yeah, I literally did it.
	I did no phone, no television.
	I didn't know what time it was because I don't wear a watch anymore.
	It's just through my phone.
	No social media, no news.
	I knew nothing.
	I was down in Mexico for a little bit just trying to decompress the brain.
	I worked on my book, got back here, did some gardening.
	I actually connected with humans.
	I would go to the grocery store and I was nicer to the cashier than I would normally be staring at my phone.
	What were you doing with the cashier before?
	Generally, I'm thought of as very rude to cashiers.
	That's one of my things.
	People think I'm a nice guy, but I'm always very rude to cashiers.
	No, I'll take a penny, but I won't leave one!
	You know, when you're online and, you know, they're doing their thing and you're just staring at your phone and it's like a human is right in front of you.
	So I just thought there were little moments like that that I was being nicer.
	But, you know, to your intro, very quickly, it reminded me of a great line from The Simpsons.
	When Homer's trying to figure out who his friends are, and he asks Mo if it's his friend, he goes, I'm a well-wisher in that I don't wish you any specific harm.
	So I think that's where we're at.
	Well, there we go.
	I'm very glad to hear it.
	And, you know, not a bad beard.
	You know, everything you said, you'd be like, oh, and then he mentions gardening.
	You're like, that's right.
	That's right.
	Dave Rubin.
	So...
	You're all like fresh tomatoes?
	Who gets...
	What's better than a fresh tomato?
	I don't know what that's a euphemism for, so I don't even want to dive into this topic.
	I don't know what kind of sick, twisted world you people live in.
	Let me ask you this.
	DACA, when you were off the grid, you picked one hell of a time to come back, buddy.
	There, buckaroo.
	You got Berkeley and DACA with Pelosi.
	Hope you had a hell of a piss, Dave.
	Hope you had a hell of a piss, Dave.
	You probably burned if it was happening in Mexico.
	You came back.
	Have you been following?
	I know you're not a Trump guy, but are you surprised?
	Yeah.
	Well, if you listen to half of my critics, they think that the guy who I never supported, who I didn't vote for, that I'm a big shill for him.
	Yes.
	So look, to DACA, I mean, it sounds like right now that this thing's going to go through with the Democrats.
	Now, it's funny.
	You know, it just goes to so many of the things that whenever we talk that we kind of focus on about sort of the dereliction of power and how the branches of government are not functioning anymore.
	You know, the reason the Dreamers got in was because Obama did it by pen.
	Nobody seemed to have a problem with that on the left.
	Then Trump says he's gonna do the reverse by Penn.
	Then everyone freaks out.
	This is why we should have laws passed by the Congress as it is in that, what's that thing?
	The Constitution. - Yeah. - And now actually the hysteria dies down for a couple of days 'cause Trump stakes out a scary position which is part of negotiating.
	And now it sounds like they're making a deal with the Democrats.
	So which, of course, will then have all the people on the left freaking out because, oh, my God, how are the Democrats?
	How are Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer making a deal with literally Hitler?
	Yeah.
	So I think he's making a deal with bananas and strange alliances are coming in in all directions these days.
	No, there's no alliance.
	I think he's making a deal with literally Skeletor.
	I have said this.
	Nancy Pelosi, and I think I've even said it with you on the show, is the only person I've ever flat out said, I believe is evil in American politics.
	I don't even say it about Hillary Clinton, about Bernie Sanders.
	I think people are wrong.
	But if you read what she believes and how angry and aggressively she champions causes, she's the only one who actually makes me sick to watch her.
	It is one thing that is, it does one thing for me.
	Let's get rid of the kind of the policy for a second.
	You've talked about this a lot.
	It really puts on display some hero worship because people who are like, you know, he's going to go in there and drain the swamp.
	Republicans haven't done anything.
	Republicans and Democrats are the same.
	We're going to vote the GOP out and put in some true conservatives.
	Now they're like, well, Paul Ryan was a stumbling block.
	To deal with Pelosi and Schumer?
	The lack of consistency to me is remarkable.
	I will be the first to say, I hate that there's any deal with Pelosi and Schumer.
	We don't know exactly what it is, but it seems like a screwjob.
	I don't think he's playing 4D chess.
	I think they've got him by the short hairs.
	Well, and you can look at that – you can make that argument from both sides.
	I could see why the average Trump supporter might be upset right now.
	By the way, I see a lot of his big people on Twitter.
	I see them all pissed at him right now because he's making that deal.
	You can also see why the Democrats would be pissed because they've painted Trump as Hitler.
	So how can you make a deal with this guy?
	So it goes to the broader point of – This team sport thing that politics has become is actually eroding our way of governing ourselves.
	It's certainly eroding the national conversation.
	I think you and I try to do a little better piece of that.
	We try to deal with it a little more honestly, and I don't think that either one of us are partisan hacks and we can agree and disagree on some stuff as always.
	Yeah.
	But what's happening is because that chessboard has been flipped upside down right now and nobody can figure out what actually is Trumpism.
	So people say, well, what do you think of it?
	They'll say, Dave, you criticize the left a lot.
	You don't criticize the right.
	I'll say, well, actually, at the moment, it's a little harder to figure out what is the right.
	Is the right someone like you, maybe like a Ben Shapiro type or a more traditional Democrat like Paul Ryan?
	Or is being on the right?
	What a jab.
	I'm being more polite since I've come back.
	I've just delivered a soul-crushing insult to Paul Ryan.
	You see how subtly I did it, though?
	And I kind of just went right through it.
	That's what you did with the cashier.
	Yeah, you can give me eight cents back, even though it's four.
	Sure, thanks.
	Have a nice day.
	Passive aggressive.
	All right.
	OK, so my point is my point is that Trumpism is a whole other thing altogether.
	So you sort of have to view every decision as if it exists in a vacuum and that it's not necessarily some broader thing, because if it is a broader thing, nobody really knows what it is.
	Well, here's the thing.
	I can understand if it's a broader thing if people say, listen, I'm an economic populist, so I'm not a conservative.
	I want tariffs.
	I want economic protectionism.
	I want economic nationalism, which flies in.
	I don't believe, for example, in official rights coming to us, inalienable by a creator, constitutional rights.
	There's some alt-right people who are like, your rights are given to you by culture.
	I don't agree with it at all, but I understand there's some kind of a warped system there.
	What I can't have any respect for is when people just say, hashtag trust in Trump.
	Or, trust me, he's got this.
	Believe him.
	No matter what, get in line.
	I don't get in line for any guy.
	We just, we can't do it.
	Ted Cruz has been on the show.
	Good friend of the show.
	Yesterday, made some funny jokes about the porn business.
	It's funny.
	I don't think he did.
	I think his staffer did, as anyone knows who has a big enough Twitter.
	But it's still funny.
	That is one thing.
	The cult of, I will back a man no matter what, that concerns me more than even the sort of political team sport.
	Then you just look silly.
	Like, Ann Coulter, who has entire chapters of her book, said, I don't want to live in a world without Donald Trump.
	And now she has to, like, okay, maybe she does.
	Maybe she changed her mind.
	So when you marry yourself to that idea, it's tough to come back.
	Real quick on that Cruise thing.
	Let's go on the assumption that he's telling the truth and it was an intern or whatever.
	I assume it wasn't him.
	But it's largely irrelevant to me.
	You know what I mean?
	If it's nothing illegal, then who the hell cares?
	And actually, in the interview, he was kind of being funny.
	And the way Dana Bash was asking those questions, because she just wanted him to say dildo on air basically.
	And it's like you're all just a bunch of preening, moralizing children, and this is not what anyone cares about.
	And I actually, if anything, I feel more empathy to Ted Cruz today than I did a week ago, and I kind of like him a little bit more.
	You know what?
	Ted Cruz is just he is the he's way better off the cuff.
	We've had him on the show and people have watched him on the show like, wow, I never I never knew that he could actually be funny.
	I never knew that he could actually be personable.
	And that is unfortunately like the swamp.
	It's all the consultants and the strategists and the people, you know, the Republican experts and think tanks.
	And they tell you, don't be exactly what won Trump the election.
	OK, well, we got we'll move on from this because we will be talking about DACA all next week.
	And one thing we don't know exactly what the deal is.
	So I know you and I are like, I don't like to be in the business of speculation.
	They can tune into Fox News or MSNBC, and it's just, what do we know about the deal?
	Well, we don't know much.
	Back to you, Tom.
	Oh, I don't like this guy.
	Berkeley going on, obviously, with Ben Shapiro.
	As to how crazy it gets, how much they erupt, I don't know.
	But how insane is it that we are at this point?
	I mean, is this one of those times where you go, I cannot believe that, you know, I worked with the Young Turks.
	You're four.
	Crowder, I wake up every morning and think that.
	So let's put that one aside.
	Do you look in the mirror and say...
	Who am I anymore?
	It wipes the fog.
	Hey, look, nobody's perfect.
	Listen, as to Berkeley, look, Ben Shapiro, whether you like Ben Shapiro or not, I know he's a friend of the show.
	I'm sure you guys are friendly privately.
	I'm friends with him privately, and he's been on my show.
	Whatever you think of Ben Shapiro, the ideas of Ben Shapiro are basic, conservative ideas.
	Basic, right, sort of libertarian ideas.
	There is nothing, nothing that he says.
	Now you may, for example, I disagree with him on abortion.
	I am pro-choice.
	Sure.
	So I disagree with him on some topics that, by the way, we've discussed in my studio, which is in my home.
	So this is a personal thing to me, right?
	That makes you, you know, eugenics, abortion.
	Continue.
	Yeah.
	We'll do that next time, okay?
	But the point is that Ben Shapiro is not racist, he is not a bigot, or any of those, he's certainly not a white supremacist.
	He's actually, although he doesn't like to play identity politics as any of us do, he's actually an orthodox Jew who gets more hate online, according to some of these studies, than anyone else.
	Now, putting that aside, forget that, though, because I would only want to judge him on his ideas, not on his religion or the color of his skin or any of those things.
	His ideas are mainstream conservative ideas.
	There is nothing that he's going to say that warrants the trigger warnings of the safe spaces or certainly to burn the schools down.
	But the media is feeding this monster that is allowing Antifa to show up there.
	It's allowing these kids to burn down the school and break windows and do all this stuff.
	And they're encouraging it.
	They're tacitly encouraging it.
	I did a video this week because the L.A. Times headline was UC Berkeley braces for right wing talk show host Ben Shapiro.
	Now, just the word braces.
	What does that make you think of these days?
	We've had two massive hurricanes.
	It's a big umbrella term now.
	It includes looting, rioting and felonies.
	But that these kids have to brace for it.
	You brace for a hurricane now.
	I mean, Google braces for Irma, braces for Harvey.
	They're doing these subtle tricks.
	And by the way, they only use right wing.
	They only add that in when they're trying to make it seem like there's some sort of racist.
	Because otherwise, if they want it to be even, what the headline should have said was left wing Berkeley braces for right wing Ben Shapiro.
	But of course they don't do that.
	And people are starting to see through this nonsense.
	But if you do anything remotely violent tonight, I hope, you know, I know the mayor of Berkeley sounds like he's a total tool, but I hope- Go with this.
	That's what happened.
	I like fired up.
	You have the absolute right to protest, but you cannot use your free speech to impede someone else's free speech.
	It's the most fundamental American value that there is, actually.
	Look at this.
	Dave Rubin came to play.
	You never know.
	Sometimes Dave Rubin can be basic bitch, but today he is digging in his heels a little bit.
	I like it.
	Go on vacation another month.
	Come back.
	Yeah, come back.
	Always say no when you're offered the pumpkin spice latte and just grow the beard.
	You're like a lumberjack now.
	You're talking like a conservative.
	You're not talking like a moderate.
	First off, just for the record, I do not like...
	I don't like pumpkin in general, but I don't like that pumpkin thing and I don't like the way we all treat pumpkin things, for the record.
	And I suppose perhaps, perhaps maybe I came back after not dealing with this nonsense and now it strikes me as a little more obvious at the moment.
	You know, it's just—look, I performed—I did a speech at Claremont McKenna, which is a small school outside of L.A., two nights ago.
	A couple hundred kids.
	There were no protesters.
	Some kids asked me some challenging questions during the Q&A session, but there was an absolute respect for free speech, and I think that actually now—kids learning how to think— Learning how to defend their ideas and willing to be there to listen to ideas that are counter to everything they've been taught, that's actually becoming cool.
	So we need to stop giving so much power to these freaks who want to just burn the whole thing down because if we keep doing it, they're just going to be...
	Well, the problem with it is, of course, like you said, the media is complicit.
	We have an educational establishment that's complicit.
	And that's where you look at Jordan Peterson and Gadsden and these professors who are speaking out.
	Of course, it's anti-intellectual.
	And one thing I will say, you know, I've been dealing with this for a long time, being on YouTube since 2009.
	This wasn't cool for a very long time.
	Good example, right?
	I know you're kind of more moderate.
	You were more left at one point.
	To give you an idea, when you were more left, for example, you know, a gay man in Los Angeles, I'm just using this as a gay man in Los Angeles left, you are not going to face the same kind of adversity ideologically.
	You may have guys call you names, I'm sure you do, and slurs, and that's always homophobic jackasses.
	Okay, we agree, but I'm just saying ideologically.
	What are you, Crowder?
	Well, you know, listen, I have to do my part.
	I feel like people are going easy on you.
	You're getting soft.
	So what happens is, let's just follow that timeline.
	It's not the same as a conservative who goes through higher education, or a conservative who works in the entertainment industry.
	It's like training with a weighted vest because it's always been this way.
	I think now people are just seeing it because the media is just so blatant with their agenda, but it has always been this bad with the far left.
	It's just now, it's a baby acting out before they're being put to bed.
	People are catching on to it.
	But that is a big thing.
	Conservatives have been so frustrated with it for so long.
	I had a professor tell me she was going to fail me.
	Helen Holt, because I was a Christian.
	It was Greek mythology.
	I don't know how I can't pass mythology.
	It's a common occurrence.
	What did you do?
	Did you call Poseidon a libtard or something?
	No, no, I don't.
	Come on, you know, I don't use libtard.
	But no, she asked, she said, anyone here a Christian?
	And I raised my hand.
	She said, well, you're not going to be able to pass my class because I found that no Christians are open-minded.
	I'm like...
	What cosmic bunny hole did I jump into that you get to tell me you're going to fail?
	Just blatantly!
	Blatantly!
	Well, even that phrase, no Christians are open-minded, that sounds like a very open-minded phrase from a professor, doesn't it?
	But, you know, to your broader point there, it's almost irrelevant to me whether it was at one time the left doing it, whether at one time it was the right doing all that, because that just then gets you into that oppression Olympics thing, and oh, we're suffering differently than these people and all that stuff.
	So I can put all that aside.
	But what I can tell you right now is that you consistently see a defense of free speech from people on the right, from conservatives.
	You do.
	And you simply don't see it in the same way from people on the left.
	in the same way from people on the left.
	If anything, you see more of the punch a Nazi mentality.
	If anything, you see more of the punch a Nazi mentality.
	Yeah.
	So that's just how it is.
	So that's just that's just how it is.
	By the way, you know, you saw, I'm sure, this whole thing with Jamel Hill at ESPN and then just another way that the media manipulates things.
	By the way, you saw, I'm sure, this whole thing with Jemele Hill at ESPN.
	And then just another way that the media manipulates things.
	Now look, you know my feelings on free speech.
	Now, look, she might you know my feelings on free speech.
	She could say whatever she want, and ESPN can do whatever they want.
	She could say whatever she want and ESPN can do whatever they want.
	That's up to them.
	That's up to them.
	I don't want the government telling anyone to do.
	I don't want the government telling anyone to do.
	But then at the press conference with Sarah Huckabee Sanders, she said something to the effect of, well, it could be a fireable defense, it's up to ESPN.
	Then the media starts running on these stories about how the Trump administration demands ESPN fire.
	Yeah, I know.
	And then the average person sees the quote, sees what they actually said, and sees the word demands and knows it's a lie.
	And then what do they do?
	They don't hate Trump more, they hate the media more.
	And in this case, they absolutely should.
	Yeah.
	No, you're absolutely right.
	It's like the left cannot become more of a parody of itself.
	When they were getting rid of statues, Robert E. Lee, Confederate, like I can understand why someone might make that argument.
	I can understand it.
	I don't agree with whitewashing history, but it was so funny because Trump said, well, what's next?
	George Washington.
	Everyone said, what an idiot.
	Can you believe in them the next day?
	We've got to get rid of George Washington from the park.
	That s*** is racist.
	An actual interview, a guy wanted to replace him with Michael Jackson, and he was on the news.
	I'm going, you are so beyond parody, you prove his crazy statements right.
	All right, Dave, I know you've got to go.
	You're busy.
	Thanks, and listen.
	I know, regardless of where we agree or disagree, I do appreciate that you have made it a point to stand up for free speech.
	I like the edge that I'm seeing from Ruben today.
	You seem a little fired up.
	Ruben Report on YouTube.
	Ruben Report on Twitter.
	Good guy, and he's got a brass pair.
	We really appreciate him coming on.
	Thanks so much, Dave.
	We'll see you soon.
	I was just checking the brass pair.
	Yeah.
	I want more.
	I want to be where my people are.
	I want to see, want to see them dancing, enjoying themselves and eating those...
	What do you call them?
	Oh, uh...
	I think it's sushi...
	orange chicken...
	kimchi...
	Is it tapas?
	No.
	Told ya.
	Okay, Flounder, you can...
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I get it.
	I know, I know.
	I'm easy to find.
	Go f**k yourself, Flounder.
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	Glad to be back.
	Roman Millennial, Dave Rubin.
	Nice show.
	Owen Benjamin, Ben Shapiro.
	So, you know, one thing is we're seeing the tweets come in right away.
	When we're talking about topics, a little lighter before we get to Title IX. Yep.
	It's funny.
	We always see this kind of rhythm.
	People going, why are you talking about this?
	Why are you talking about monkeys?
	Why are you talking about transgender stuff?
	Why aren't you talking about...
	And then that same person is like, hey, I really liked your segment on Title IX. Can you upload it as its own thing on YouTube?
	This is one thing where conservatives do, and people just who aren't the left have gotten it wrong for so long.
	And I hope that they learn to correct it here.
	Is this being so culturally irrelevant?
	Listen, if you're looking for a show that's only AM talk radio on video, this isn't for you.
	But that Title IX, why are you laughing?
	This could have been the worst place.
	It couldn't be.
	This is probably the worst of all the places you could have ended up.
	But the Title IX thing, we put in so much work as far as sourcing and research on those kinds of stories.
	And we have a researcher who...
	We have some stuff we're working on now as far as infiltration behind the scenes that we're pretty happy with.
	Even though it's a comedy show.
	We are doing it ultimately for laughs, but sometimes we stumble across these stories.
	They're like, how did that happen?
	And you realize just the news has gotten so lazy.
	But the reason we address today, obviously we'll get into Title IX. Next week we'll get into DACA when we know more about the deal.
	I don't want to get into just conjecture.
	But the reason we'll also talk about the transgender issue with the fake rubber tits being taped back.
	The reason we'll also talk about the monkey issue in PETA is because here's one.
	It's that death by a thousand cuts.
	And...
	We've, you know, I talked about how awful that concealed carry course was that I did last week.
	But here's one thing that he did say, and he'll teach you, which is really important to note.
	The reason we address all of these issues simultaneously is because it's for the same reason that you need to be vigilant.
	Because if you're being carjacked, if your home is being robbed, guess what?
	You're the last one to know what's about to happen.
	The bad guys made all of the decisions.
	Hmm.
	Okay?
	The bad guy has made every decision.
	He's decided to, in Detroit where they invented carjacking, he's decided to have someone else pin you.
	He's decided that he's coming up to your door.
	He's decided that he has a gun, whether it's loaded or not, how he's going to threaten you.
	At this point, you are reacting.
	And guess what?
	That's why criminals generally get the better of people.
	Almost always.
	Sometimes the law gets the better of them.
	Why?
	Because they've made all of these moves before the criminals have decided to take this action.
	They've put parameters in place.
	But you yourself, as a victim, are often the last person to know what's about to happen.
	Well, guess what?
	You're the last person to be able to do anything when you are just playing reaction at a certain point.
	Right now we're going, it's so absurd the social justice left.
	Can you believe how far they've gone?
	Yeah.
	Because he gave them the stroke for a long time.
	They decided, alright, it's going to be same-sex marriage.
	Alright, it's going to be trannies in the bathroom.
	Alright, it's going to be beautiful.
	We're going to make a woman of the year a man.
	Alright, we're going to make sure that animals are put on the same playing field as humans.
	Alright, we're going to remove your ability to have due process on campus.
	And people, all the conservatives are going, well, you know what, let's ignore that.
	Let's just talk about immigration policy.
	Listen, that matters too.
	But if you ignore everything else, and the right has been doing this for so For so long, you're the last to know where you've ended up as a society, as a culture.
	When people say, how did it get this way?
	Because of the people like you who bitch when someone is out there addressing an issue that might seem frivolous.
	It is something that the left has been so effective with.
	They have been so effective with convincing us that it's not a big deal and to not focus on the kind of crap that they're doing.
	To just focus on the issues.
	All of these issues matter.
	All of these issues matter.
	And I really am at a point, and hopefully whether you're going on a campus right now and you're in Berkeley, keeping your head on a swivel, or wherever it's happening next.
	I think Milo's coming to Berkeley.
	I think Ben is in Utah.
	And I think Owen Benjamin is going to be doing all kinds of shows in Texas and then across the country.
	Keep your head on a swivel because the last thing, you don't want to be the last to know.
	And there is a real opportunity.
	We're talking about this with Dave Rubin.
	I was talking about it on another show.
	There's an opportunity here to get ahead of the game.
	But you've got to recognize every issue that is being thrown at you.
	You have to see what is happening in these little incremental steps on a regular basis.
	And don't think that you're being holier than thou because you're only talking about DACA. This is something, if there's someone out there, if the think tanks who watch this show, the people who are afraid to admit that they watch, we get that all the time, people are like, this is my favorite, we just can't admit it.
	Even conservatives!
	When we were at YouTube, remember?
	We were at the YouTube conference, conservatives would not speak out.
	People that would surprise you.
	People that would surprise you because they were terrified.
	YouTube was quite literally looking them in the face saying, There is nothing going on with demonetization.
	There are no biases at YouTube.
	We're trying to be all-inclusive.
	And I said, well, hold on a second.
	What about the fact that all of our videos are being...
	What about the fact that every single video being featured, you know, from painting with period blood with BuzzFeed to Vox News, you know, it's about a ratio of 25 to 1 as far as featured.
	And conservatives looked and said, shut up!
	We want to make sure our policy videos...
	Well, guess what?
	When they take down your channel, you're the last to know!
	You're the last one to know that you've been screwed until you've been screwed.
	And conservatives culturally have been getting screwed so thoroughly and so firmly for such a long time because we've lulled ourselves into this sense of complacency to the point where every...
	That's why we didn't want to talk about DACA. Not every conversation just needs to be about Donald Trump.
	There's more going on.
	There's more going on and the left understands, obviously NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, every single cable network.
	We have an editor who worked at TBS. He can tell you what's coming down the pike.
	They've decided they can always make some headway by making decisions when you ignore them.
	If there's nothing else that this show is about, do not ignore them.
	It's a battle of inches.
	Every single day.
	It can be exhausting.
	Believe me, it can be absolutely exhausting, but you need to battle for every single inch at all times.
	We've talked about this before.
	I'm actually going to change what I said one time when I was telling someone, listen, if you're on campus or if you're working in the entertainment industry, I'd probably keep it quiet.
	No, this is the point where you can't.
	You can't at all.
	Everyone needs to come forward.
	There needs to be that cavalry over the hill, and you need to fight for every single damn inch that you can.
	Because if you don't, and if all of us don't, we're going to look at our country as we did with this last election and say, hey, how do we go this far this quickly?
	You were just the last to know.
	Let's stop doing that.
	We'll see you next week.
	Have an unbelievable lineup.
	Owen's actually going to be in studio for a couple of days, so looking forward to that.

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