Knowledge Fight - #1134: April 9-10, 2026

April 13, 2026 - Knowledge Fight

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#1134: April 9-10, 2026

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Dan and Jordan of Knowledge Fight dissect Alex Jones's 2026 decline, analyzing his failed response to Donald Trump's brutal public takedown and his reliance on Roger Stone for psychological validation. They critique Jones's alignment with Dark Waters' supernatural conspiracy theories regarding witches and divine weapons, mocking the staged FedEx "battle axe" miracle and his disturbing framing of childhood trauma as God's education. Ultimately, the hosts portray Jones as a trapped figure, psychologically dominated by Trump and Stone, whose desperate pleas for conflict reveal a tragic loss of relevance and influence. [Automatically generated summary]
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Participants

Main

alex jones

infowars 28:21

dan friesen

01:04:20

harrison smith

infowars 05:25

james williams

07:39

jordan holmes

33:00

Appearances

marjorie taylor greene

rep/r 02:17

roger stone

r 04:29

Clips

pastor james david manning

00:02

rob dew

infowars 00:22

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Speaker	Time	Text
Knowledge Fight Returns 00:01:28
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge fight.
		Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
		Knowledgefight.com.
		It's time to pray.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge fight.
		I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
		Knowledge fight.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Dan and Jordan.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge fight.
unidentified		I need money.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy and Kansas.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy and Kansas.
unidentified		It's time.
unidentified		I love you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
unidentified		I'm Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple dudes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, indeed, we are, Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
unidentified		Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, quick question for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No time for bright spots today.
unidentified		No time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My bright spot is baked into this episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We originally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Recording on Saturday instead of Sunday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is intense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We had to convene the conclave, move it up, the podcast bishops.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The white smoke.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's just say the white smoke.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Something happened after we recorded or during and after when we recorded our last episode.
My Bright Spot Baked In 00:02:58
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's how we do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we're walking a tightrope of you not finding out about this thing.
		And so, my bright spot is that we managed to preserve.
		The integrity of what we're doing here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There was one hour, there was one hour where it all could have fallen apart because I left here and then, almost an hour later, you were like, Stay off the internet.
		Do you know what's happening?
		Or you asked me, Do you know what happened?
		Something along those lines.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I was like, Well, obviously, no, this is going to be a problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So I have just been off the internet for the past two days.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I haven't looked at anything, I haven't touched anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think I've been fucking with you a little bit about, Oh my God, are you sure you don't know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you have to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		To have heard.
		If I knew what it was, I would know.
		But I don't know.
		And, you know, it's kind of been good.
		It's been good to be off the internet.
		I've liked it.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's a bright spot for you, too.
unidentified		It is nice to be here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I'm so excited.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's been a long time since I've been like, God, I can't wait to see what Jordan says about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can sense it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can feel it in your heart.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My bright spot, my man, is tennis.
unidentified		Oh.
unidentified		Tennis!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did you watch a Ridley Scott interview and cry?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, but I would have.
		If I had heard my own soul reflected so clearly.
		No, first final of the year, starring both Center and Alcarez.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tomorrow morning.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's going down.
unidentified		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In Monte Carlo, and the ranking, the world number one ranking is on the line.
		Holy shit.
		It is a big deal.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The stakes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is huge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be very enjoyable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm glad that the two of them are locked in their death battle forever and ever until one of them dies.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting that tennis just does that, it seems to constantly create that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But hey, it's exciting and I'm pumped for you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Greatness demands challenge, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, you've picked such an interesting sport that it's like constantly on in the middle of the night or like early in the morning because it's around the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's all over the place.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's such an interesting choice as opposed to like baseball and football that are on like normal human football.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ready to watch whenever you are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It reminds me of back when I was doing stand up, there were a lot of people who were like really into wrestling.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And like, Japanese pay per views, you know, would be on at all hours of the day.
unidentified		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, they'd be like, oh, I was up at 2 to watch the Japanese.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		We had a couple of friends like that with football, the European kind, soccer football.
		Yeah, they were, you know, you go to Galway Bay at 10 a.m., you're going to have yourself a day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		Not a long one, but it'll be a day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It'll be a day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, today, Yes.
		We got this episode.
		Holy shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to be talking about April 9th and 10th.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Two episodes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
Stakes Too High To Bet 00:12:38
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's such a ride.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't wait.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't fucking wait.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But before we get to it, let's take a little moment and say hello to some of you.
unidentified		Oh, my God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The suspense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, first, my nickname in college was Big Balls, but not for the reason you might think.
		Thank you so much.
		You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next, I played bass in a progressive rock band until one day the front man went on a rant about George Soros and the World Economic Forum, and now they're using Disney movies to brainwash everyone into being socialist feminists.
		Thank you so much.
		You're now Policy Wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a Policy Wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Getty Lee is fucking annoying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that is how the band broke up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next, Pewky Pewky, me and Huey drank all the liquid death.
		Ney Ho Hloopy Cuckoe.
		Thank you so much.
		You're now Policy Wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a Policy Wonk.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we got a technical card in the mix, Jordan.
		So thank you so much to Guy.
		The last five years with you have been a wild ride, right down to our weekly ritual of listening to Knowledge Fight together.
		You make me the happiest deep state globalist in the New World Order by being my non binary adrenochrome.
		Guzzling partner in crime.
		Love, Chelsea.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a technocrat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified		Four stars.
unidentified		Don't honk your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor james david manning ▲ ● ▼		Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Daddy Shark.
		Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
		He's a loser little kitty baby.
		I don't want to hate black people.
		I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we had an out of context drop.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's kind of, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel like this is just me teasing more.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's the thing.
		It's an amuse boosh.
		Yeah, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't do war crimes, bro.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's good advice for all of us.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Again, this is like Trump doesn't want to be a weenie forever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't do war crimes, bro.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Come on, bro.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's something that you can really only say in 2020.
		Back in the day, you know, you would get that in a long letter, you know, like the king of Spain would send a letter to the king of Russia and be like, ah, no, no, no, no.
		But at the end of the day, don't do war crimes, bro.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Come on, bro.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Come on, bro.
		So, I had very much intended, like, we're going to take this slow.
		Alex is having his, like, falling away from Trump.
		Yep.
		But there's just.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's savor it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I was intending to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We were going to go day by day through this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We were going to read it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How does Alex respond to the, we're going to wipe out your civilization comments?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's an autopsy specific enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we can't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have to get to this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's get to the meat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex comes on his show on April 9th.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And is telling a story basically that Trump had said, I'm going to murder everyone in Iran.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then he was like, talked out of it.
		And he was like, I came to his senses.
		And basically, Alex was a part of that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a prideful person, meaning I don't like to think about how great I am.
		It's the opposite.
		I know my limitations, more power, you really get more dangerous to realize it is.
		But I do get satisfaction.
		Without even looking around, I've seen Mark Levin and all the neocons attack me on national news, online, saying Jones and Tucker Carlson and MTG, they got Trump to pull back from total war.
		This is absolutely horrible.
		These people are big traitors, they're enemies.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They don't want us putting pressure on Trump because it works.
		And he just came out today and said no nuclear weapons will be used on Iran.
		When he promised it's stronger than anyone has ever seen strikes if they back out of these deals.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, as a brief recap of what's happened here, Trump posted a deadline for Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz on Truth Social, putting it at 8 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday.
		As that date grew closer and Iran said no and made fun of his threats, Trump escalated the online rhetoric to the point where he said on Tuesday, A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again.
		I don't want that to happen, but it probably will.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, everyone interpreted that as a very clear threat that Trump intended to make and acted shocked by how weirdly nothing happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everyone was, I don't know anyone who's not confused by, like, hey, listen, I think we made a huge mistake electing and appointing nothing but cowards to the government, and now we're all fucked because of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At least not enough not cowards.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The president used the social media company that he owns to post a threat to.
		Kill an entire civilization speaking as our representative to the world, and as far as I can tell, nobody did anything.
		Nope, no spies or snipers took him out.
		His cabinet didn't invoke the 25th amendment to remove him from office.
		This is just behavior that's fine now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, hey, I, you know, hey, what you gonna do?
		What you gonna do?
		Let's escalate everything to nuclear war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a mess.
unidentified		Let's escalate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh my god, are you gonna raise that fucking tax by five cents?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you, I'll bomb your whole civilization to nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		The talkers were talking about this.
		You know, like no one was really doing anything, but the talkers were talking, and most of the talk was bad.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's really hard to justify someone saying something like this because it's literally threatening to commit genocide if you don't get your way.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is in this tough situation where he knows he can't support or justify the things Trump is doing, but he's not able to just be a man and go against him.
		He can say critical things about Trump, but he refuses to speak freely because of an obsession with winning the midterm elections.
		There's a sense that Alex has converted to electoralism and become a bit of a normie.
		Even if he likes to spend his time talking about orbs with dipshits like dark journalists.
unidentified		Orbs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now that he's gotten into a pattern of yelling and crying at the audience about how Republicans have to win everything or else the world is going to end, to the point where he was a key part of trying to overthrow the 2020 election because they lost, they can't really go back to the days when elections were all theater and it didn't matter who won.
		The reason for that is because the second that becomes Alex's story again, his fans might start considering the possibility that 2016, 2020, and 2024, those were theater too.
		And if they start to realize that, it's a very quick walk to realizing that Alex was part of that theater.
unidentified		Never going to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex tries to tread water in this idiotic space where everyone knows he should be burning Trump, but he holds back for the sake of some kind of imagined congressional victory in the midterms.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wants it to come off like some kind of ability on his part to see the big picture, but it's really just indicative of his descent into partisan hackery.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump threatened to nuke Iran, and then about two hours before the deadline, he pretended to accept a ceasefire deal for two weeks that was brokered by Pakistan.
		Everyone knows the deal is bullshit.
		But this really highlights something that I think is super dangerous and we need to take seriously.
		We all know Trump making this deal is bullshit.
		But we all also know that it's a good thing he agreed to that fake deal because the alternative is dropping nukes on people.
		We don't want a nuclear war, and it feels like the best way to not have one is to go ahead and pretend that the great deal maker made a great deal that avoided so much unnecessary death.
		On some level, this is training the public that.
		It's best to just humor Trump and pretend the emperor has great new clothes because if you don't, 8 p.m. Eastern might roll around and his pride demands that he kill a lot of people.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a sort of standard abuser bully type of thing where Trump has clearly demonstrated his willingness to kill and to violate constitutional and international laws, so we don't know what he's capable of.
		His threats might be empty, but they can never be taken as such because the stakes are so high, and he knows that.
		If he threatens to do something that would essentially end the modern world, and then he makes a fake deal to stop it at the last minute, the real effect of that is that he's demanding everyone thank him for avoiding the end of the world.
unidentified		Mm hmm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, he didn't say that he wouldn't use nukes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is misinterpreting Trump saying, quote, no nuclear weapons, after he was asked what an acceptable deal with Iran would look like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he was saying that Iran would get no nuclear weapon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex is desperate to pretend Trump changed courses, so he's yelling at his audience and saying that Trump committed to not using nukes.
		Right.
		Basically, this is Alex playing his role in the abuser bully dynamic.
		Trump has just lashed out at the public and is demanding everyone praise him for stopping before he nuked the world.
		Alex is now getting on his show and praising Trump for stopping before he nuked Iran and also trying to pretend that his actions were critical.
		To bringing Trump to his senses, effectively demanding that the audience play the same role in his narcissism cycle as he feels like he does in Trump's.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex had to get on his show and attack him in order to correct the ship, which is explained by him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He came on his show and said that they should invoke the 25th Amendment.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so that made a lot of headlines.
		Yeah.
		That was him saving the world.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, it is something where it's very easy to forget this because we all just assume it will happen.
unidentified		But.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Trump saying those things is just him saying them.
		People have to do them.
		So, we're all assuming that all of the people who know that the deal is bullshit, all of the people who know that what he's doing is illegal, and all of the people who are in a place where they could say no are going to say yes to him just because he's the imaginary president for a while.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, for us, at least from where I'm sitting, it's the same issue.
		And that is that maybe they will, maybe they won't.
		The stakes are too high to bet on people not following what he says.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, I'd like to endorse not following unconstitutional and flagrantly illegal things that the president might tell you to do.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I don't know if we can bank on that because someone might.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man.
		Boy, it's just tough not to say, I get it.
		I get Nazis.
		I get it, buddy.
		It's tough.
		It's tough to be a Nazi.
		And here we are.
		What are you going to do?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Trump, he really can't threaten genocide.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I guess you can.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I tip my hat to Alex.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		POTUS warns America's ready to strike Iran stronger than anyone has ever seen before, close quote.
		If agreement isn't reached, declares no nuclear weapons will be used.
		That is very good to calm nerves because you can't talk about total annihilation of a civilization never to return.
		That's the definition of genocide.
		And not have us have to come out and say, emergency break, slam the disc brakes on.
		Whoever's telling you this, what we know, Mark Levin, he said it on Fox News do not listen to lunatics.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is some of the most weaselly stuff you can do.
		It's wrong for Trump to threaten genocide because it's wrong.
		Full stop.
		The formulation Alex is putting forward is that it's wrong for Trump to do that because if he does, then Alex has to be critical of him.
		I get that Mark Levin is just the scapegoat explanation for everything now, and Alex has decided that he's going to paint him as the guy behind all of Trump's bad decisions.
		But if Alex has enough sense to accurately describe what Trump did as threatening genocide, then he has to be able to understand that Trump did that on purpose.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can rationalize that someone gave him bad advice all you want, but no one could ever talk me into threatening to commit genocide.
		Because I would never do that.
		If you're honest with yourself, you can't say the same about Trump.
		Based on the actions that Trump took on social media, there are only a couple of conclusions you can come to.
		One, Trump is willing to kill the 93 million people in Iran if he doesn't get his way.
		Two, Trump is such an incompetent negotiator that the only way he thinks he can get his way is to bluff and threaten to kill 93 million people.
		Three, Trump is so dumb that he can be talked into threatening to kill 93 million people even though he doesn't want to, nor does he think it's a good strategy.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or four, Trump is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump believes that he and Iran are just doing this for show, and all these threats are just a dick measuring contest for him.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex really needs to accept that there is just no saving this.
		Trump threatened to commit an intentional genocide in order to scare another country into accepting a deal that they didn't want to accept, and even Alex can't come up with a less damning way to describe it.
		If you're fine with this, you don't have a principled stance against Trump nuking someone because he did everything but pull the trigger here, and everyone knows the justification for not pulling the trigger is bullshit.
		It's. arbitrary that it didn't happen.
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unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we all, one of the biggest things that we all lived through was Game of Thrones.
		And one of the main characters of Game of Thrones, when faced with an out of control despot threatening to kill millions of people, he killed that guy, right?
		And everybody agreed totally the right move.
		Totally the right move.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can I actually correct you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Two main characters do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good point.
		And in both cases, everybody's like, you got to do what you got to do.
		It is the correct move.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There were consequences, but everybody, you know, there was some stigma.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, everyone does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep, yep, yep.
		Everybody moved on.
		They were real bummed out for a bit, but yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex talks here about Lindsey Graham and how he's overconfident about Iran and ground troops and war and that stuff.
unidentified		Jesus Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he gets a little lost.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Lindsey Graham's asked two weeks ago 2,500 Marines take Krog Island?
		I believe in the Marines.
		Well, it took 110,000 Marines and sailors to take Iwo Jima.
		That was 20,000 Japanese.
		Kirk Allen has more than that.
		Well, you're just against our Marines.
		This is mathematical stuff.
		It's like, what's it take to get a Falcon Heavy into orbit?
		However many tens of thousands of tons of fuel.
		They're like, well, we just need 500 pounds.
		You're like, no, you need tons and tons and tons.
		It's mathematical.
		But so many of these malignant narcissists, politicians, and corporate leaders, the highest percentage you see anywhere, not just sociopaths, but psychopaths, Throughout history, they get so delusional, they will just give orders that are insane.
		And one of my favorite examples, because the film is amazing Deepwater Horizon.
		Of course, it's a movie.
unidentified		Of course, it's a movie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		One of my favorite actors, Kurt Russell.
		But I'd seen a documentary about it from the court case.
		It's from the transcripts of the court case.
		That all happened.
		That movie's like basically exactly as it happened.
		Even the actors they chose to play the people, the head of the rig looks like Kurt Russell.
		You know, the Mark Wahlberg guy looks just like Mark Wahlberg.
		I mean, they just did a masterpiece.
unidentified		Mark Wahlberg.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Five times.
		I've seen.
		I need to watch again.
		And they get a call by the coon ass head of BP in the U.S.
		Well, nothing is coon ass.
		He's just a coon ass accent.
		We're going to do well.
		We're going to be great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I think that you're talking a bit, a lot about Deepwater Horizon here.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When it should have just been maybe an analogy you're making as opposed to a five minute chunk that you're going to get into about the movie and how it's real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really don't need to even give me a cast list.
		No.
		Even if you're nailing the analogy part.
		At no point in time will the cast list assist me in getting your point.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I would also say that you're not making the point with the analogy.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That part is why you would bring this up.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is weak.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's no good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Silex keeps talking about the movie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course he's talking about the movie.
unidentified		Why not?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Pentagon said 92% chance they don't get removed, the strike gets closed, it creates a chain reaction.
		And now if we can't do regime change, we've got to do ground invasion, and that's even lower probability because they'll keep fighting because we funded a huge war for seven years against them in the 80s, and they're even tougher now.
		But it's the exact same thing.
		Well, you just go ahead and you do that now.
		In fact, let's play the trailer or whatever clip you found, because this is it.
		I mean, this is the transcripts, because these whole companies have secretaries.
		They're recording it all.
		They create transcripts of it.
		They have the transcripts of these phone calls.
		You just go ahead.
		We're going to save $50 million a day, not putting that mud in there.
		They call the concrete mud.
		And the Texans on the line going, it's going to blow up.
		But still, he went, okay, did the pressure test, didn't blow up.
		All right, I'll do what you said.
		Hours later, it blows up.
		Like, we have to listen to the real experts, not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mark Levine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my fucking God.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is an exact parallel here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Folks, play the clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he plays a clip from Deepwater Horizons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I lived, I was alive.
		I was alive during COVID.
		I was alive, living.
		I was a living human being during COVID for that man, for him to not be ripped to shreds by wolves after saying shit like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or Wahlbergs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or Wahlbergs, absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If he goes to Wahlbergs, I expect him not to make it out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You stay out of us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I expect to eat an Alex burger at a Wahlburger.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, to be clear, I want to make sure we're all clear on the argument that Alex is trying to make.
		He's saying that experts warned that attacking Iran would not be a good idea, but the wrong decision was made.
		Similarly, in the case of the Deepwater Horizon, experts told the decision makers that the well was going to blow up, but they didn't listen.
		The connective tissue between the two things is that the right experts weren't listened to, and Alex is saying that they're both bad things that could have been avoided.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What I find really interesting is that this isn't a strong connection between these two things.
		And in fact, understanding what happened at Deepwater Horizon really doesn't help you understand the situation in Iran at all.
		The further problem is something that we've touched on another time, Alex brought up this movie, and that is that Alex is just wrong with the details about the actual explosion at the horizon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that sounds right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's right about the movie, but he's not right about the real world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is the problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has to insist that this movie is so accurate to real life because he only really knows about the movie, but he wants The audience to believe that he's speaking from a place of deep research about the real world.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And at this point, I could descend into a very elaborate discussion about drilling and the mud that he's talking about.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it is thoroughly unnecessary.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we have other things to get to.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to skip what I spent a lot of time on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's just an asshole.
		You spent a lot of time on drilling.
		Drill, baby, drill.
		Unfortunately, we're now moving on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So mud, they put the mud down in order to offset the pressure down at the bottom.
		Right.
		This has nothing to do with the explosion.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That happened later.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, who gives a shit?
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm actually kind of interested, but.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tell me a little bit more.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When you're drilling, you have to measure, you have to weigh two variables against each other.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One is the pressure down in the rock that you're drilling into.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Too high explodes, you'll die.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you hit pockets of things, they will rush towards places with lower pressure.
		Sure.
		So it'll go up the pipe.
		Yeah.
		In order to offset this, You need to put mud down the pipe, what they call mud, down the pipe.
		Yeah.
		In order to create a greater pressure.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So stuff won't go upward.
unidentified		Gotcha.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		However, you have to balance the weight of the mud.
		Right.
		With how, like, if it's too heavy, it will penetrate the rocks, it will crack the rocks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You need a Goldilocks amount of mud.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it takes a lot to get a Goldilocks amount because too much and too little are very easy to do.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in the case of the Deepwater Horizon, when they were drilling, they had.
		Way too little buffer between the mud weight and the pressure density kind of thing, that equation that they needed.
		And they were doing that in order to try and maximize profits and take a higher risk.
		When they were getting out of the mine or out of the well, the normal thing that they do is they pour concrete down there to cap off the well so things don't come off.
unidentified		No more problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And in that process, they did not correctly or fully cap it.
		And so that's what caused.
		They had given too little buffer between the drilling of the mine and the well, and then they didn't cap it properly.
Aliens Sure Not Destroying Us 00:04:07
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Gotcha.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, anyway, Alex is, he's just wrong about a ton of shit.
unidentified		Gotcha.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't care.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But now, because you cared, I want to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm interested in how that works.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a really interesting thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You should go see the movie.
unidentified		Well, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has seen it five times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Too many times.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, there's other issues on Alex's mind.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like aliens.
unidentified		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, while we've been focused on this incredibly dangerous war, the shockwaves that are happening, foreign control, U.S. foreign policy, Israel planning to nuke Iran and more, we've not been looking enough at all these congresspeople that are very trusted, Burchett and others saying no.
		Four alien species talking to humans on the earth, spacecraft, all of it.
		Trump needs to just release it all.
		Now, are they being given disinfo or is it real?
		I've got a lot of answers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, you don't.
		And I think we've been focusing on that plenty.
		It seems like we've talked about that a lot.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dark journalist has been making some great points.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		I mean, I'm going to just reiterate my forever stance on aliens.
		If aliens, then only aliens.
		You will know.
		You won't even need to ask.
		You won't need to be like, hey, are aliens?
		You will know.
		It will be known immediately if aliens.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Like we talked about on the last episode, I think.
		If aliens want to destroy us, they can, and they aren't.
		So great.
		They don't want to harm us.
		Yep.
		And if they want to reveal themselves to us, the government can't do shit about that.
		So, like, they don't want to.
		If they're here, they don't want to be seen.
		Let's respect their privacy.
unidentified		What treaties?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, shut up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shut up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, we get.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex teases this that it's like, this is in his mind.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he also has some real world stuff to talk about.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, the night before, he pre recorded an interview with Marjorie Taylor Greene.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so he plays that interview, and part of it involves her saying, hey, Alex, we're proud of you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That you called Trump crazy because he's crazy.
unidentified		Yeah.
marjorie taylor greene ▲ ● ▼		But you came out and you called it exactly as it is.
		And you said the president has gone insane and it's time to use the 25th Amendment.
		He's not mentally stable.
		And I, you know, you can love President Trump.
		You can not love him no matter how you feel about him.
		But everyone has to be honest and realistic and wake up and look at the facts.
		Any person, no matter who they are, When they say they are willing and they set a deadline and they literally say 8 p.m. that night, that they are going to wipe out an entire civilization of a country that, by the way, Iran has not bombed America.
		We don't have bombs falling on our head.
		We are not being attacked right now.
		Nothing is happening like that to us.
		Am I defending Iran?
		No, I am not.
		I'm just pointing out the real estate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll defend Iran.
marjorie taylor greene ▲ ● ▼		But President Trump put out that true social right there.
		And literally said that he would wipe out an entire civilization of people.
		I don't know how that is defensible by any means.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's total supervillain stuff.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Not even Hitler said that out loud while he was actually trying to do it.
marjorie taylor greene ▲ ● ▼		No, that's absolutely right.
unidentified		Yes.
marjorie taylor greene ▲ ● ▼		Civilization.
		And then saying it's going to be bridges and power plants.
		That's critical infrastructure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And he said never to come back.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I thought he's trying to save these people.
marjorie taylor greene ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, never to come back.
		And the president has come out and he's spoken about why he's going to war.
		And it was to free the Iranian people.
		He claimed it was to help them.
		He said it was not about the oil, but yet it's straight up about the oil.
		It's all about the Strait of Hormuz.
		And it's because I think he found out that this is not popular.
		People don't want to have the so called temporary pain for long term gain.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was the good news, though, is when you and Tucker and everybody else came roaring out, not the Democrats, they saw polls.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I'm talking to insiders at Raspey's, you name it.
Easter Morning Shocking Post 00:03:40
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're below 33.
		He's in free fall.
		So thank God, still somehow we're able to get to him.
		And again, I love the old Trump.
		I told you on the phone this morning I said, I hate the new Trump.
		I'm just going to be honest.
		I hate this person.
		This is a disgusting husk of the former person.
		This is like, you know, in a vampire movie, you loved your wife and your husband until the vampire bites them and they're now a vampire.
		No.
		This is horrible.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's the same guy.
		No.
		But, like, I find this fascinating the way that, like, MTG is perfectly situated for what she wants to do.
		Yeah.
		But she's just not very dynamically interesting as a media personality.
		She's great for someone to be a shit talker in Congress.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, like, if she has to do a show for herself, I just don't think she has anything.
unidentified		It.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She doesn't have the chops.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's so unfortunate because she made all the right choices to set herself up to have a very lucrative career in right wing media.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just don't think it's going to work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There are so many comics I know who would be delighted to be in her position and would fucking crush it, but they would never have the chops to get into her position.
		And so the two of them being unable to, it's very O. Henry.
		You know, I'm good enough to do the thing, but you're not good enough to do the thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe she should try and become Theo Vaughn's co host.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe the two of them could make a go of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they'd fall in love.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That'd be beautiful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be beautiful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this isn't the only post that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That MTG is offended by.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She also is not thrilled with what Trump said on Easter.
unidentified		Okay.
marjorie taylor greene ▲ ● ▼		The post that it disturbed me deeply inside was on Easter morning when the president made that horrific post, and it was shocking.
		Easter morning is when families and people all across the country, Christians across the country, are waking up and celebrating the fact that Christ has risen from the grave.
		This is like, this is the greatest day that we have.
		And it's literally the basis of our entire faith.
		Many families are getting ready to go to church and planning to have, you know, all day long celebrations with families and cooking and gathering and eating.
		And the president put out a post that was the most disturbing post I've ever read.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I killed Jesus.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Straight up hormones.
		Allah is great.
		Just, you know, I'm going to totally destroy you.
		It's just foaming at the mouth.
unidentified		Yeah.
marjorie taylor greene ▲ ● ▼		It's unacceptable.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No shit.
		So, in case you missed that one, Trump's post from Easter morning was, Quote, Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped in one in Iran.
		There will be nothing like it.
		Open the fucking street, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell.
		Just watch.
		Praise be to Allah.
		President Donald J. Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is risen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, that's one of the craziest things anyone has ever said because it just has too many layers to it.
		He's threatening war crimes by targeting civilian infrastructure, which is in itself a terrorist act.
		He's saying fucking and bastards at 8 a.m. on Easter morning.
unidentified		Mm hmm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's throwing in completely unnecessary lines like, just watch, and there'll be nothing like it.
		And that's all just filler.
		And then the praise be to Allah is almost mind melting.
		What could he possibly have meant by that?
		Is it trolling?
		A presumably Christian president saying praise be to Allah on Easter morning is so weird that it's confusing.
		Naturally, you read something like that full post, and you're immediately horrified by the intent to kill that he's expressing.
		But then you have to take a step back and look at it like it's a magic eye poster.
		It's crazy.
Witchcraft Attacks And Thrones 00:15:18
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, man, you know, I can't.
		Okay, all right.
unidentified		This is the thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is the thing that's going to kill me.
		In the next five years, I'm going to die because of this thing that everyone is going to do to me all the time.
		Everyone is going to do this thing to me.
		Just like Alex going, This guy is crazy.
		He's nothing like this or anything like that.
		In order to justify how he thought previously and how he doesn't have to change his thinking in the present due to the things that happened, right?
		Yeah.
		How many times did I talk to one of those fucking journalists and I was like, Hey, call these idiots Nazis.
		Call them Nazis.
unidentified		Just do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they were like, No, we, These Nazis said not even Hitler about that Nazi.
		Not even Hitler.
		And they're going to come at me and say, no, we were totally right.
		What we did at the time was right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, because Trump changed.
unidentified		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Except he didn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Today is the day he finally became president, is what happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is a clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't really worth cutting, but there was a moment where Alex actually said that Trump needs to be presidential.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's just like, come on, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just going to die.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just going to die.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and like, I think that it's great that MTG doesn't like this post and those other ones.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But she can cut it out with this act.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's exactly what you're talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm not going to sit here and pretend like Trump hasn't been this person the whole time.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't, we're not going to launder your, like, what sounds good that you're saying now.
		Yeah.
		Yesterday exists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Either say we fucked up or shut up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, after he plays the Marjorie Taylor Greene interview, Alex reveals that the Lord has blessed him since he came out against Trump.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I wasn't consciously guilty for still supporting Trump because he was doing so much good.
		I don't want to throw the baby out of the bathwater.
		I thought it was still critical.
		But in six months, and I've always slept great seven, eight hours nonstop, great.
		Last six months, I've had trouble sleeping.
		Since I've come out directly against what Trump's doing, I slept 10 hours last night, nine or 10 hours the night before.
		I feel so good at a gut level doing this.
		At the end of the day, that's what matters.
		Because I can intellectually look at something and it's the right thing to do and my conscience helps me do it.
		But man, when I feel great about something, That's why I do this because it feels good to tell the truth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe this sleep thing is real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just a way for Alex to reinforce that he did the right thing by calling for Trump to be taken out of office with the 25th Amendment.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Alex doesn't feel good when he does the right thing.
		When he experiences things he likes, he defines them as that good feeling.
		He defines that feeling as, oh, I must have done the right thing.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is no right or wrong for him.
		It's all conditional.
		And then after the fact, whatever choice he ends up making will magically have been correct and the heroic option for him to make.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy how it works.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Every time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He writes his own myths in reverse.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fun.
unidentified		It's cute.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do appreciate this late in the game, like, oh, I slept well.
unidentified		Like,.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So you've been doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How many years have you not been sleeping well, if that's where we're at?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the guilt of being the giant piece of shit probably weighs on you.
unidentified		Yeah, I bet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So at this point, we enter some waters that are a little bit dark.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We enter the danger zone.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I can only sum things up like this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Big stuff's coming.
		I can feel we're on the cusp of something, Daniel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, me too.
		Me too.
		There is.
		We're just on the cusp.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got with man, the worst thing that ever happened was dark journalists showing up for hours.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, get this, it's not dark journalists.
unidentified		Oh, all right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, I'm a fan of dark waters, journalist, researcher, James Williams.
		I saw him a few years ago, but I watch him every couple days now.
		I went back to watch his older shows.
		He was like seven, eight, nine, ten years ago talking about the fake alien invasion, how it's demonic, how it's interdimensional, which I've been laying out as well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, dark waters, aka James Williams, has been on the show before, but.
		And this time, Alex keeps talking to, like, right now, he's constantly hanging out with dark journalists.
		We can't do this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't have two darks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Two space dipshittery experts, both with names that start with, we can't do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, can't handle it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you've forgotten, Dark Waters is a guy who has a YouTube channel where he would talk about cryptids and read scary stories, which turned into a stream that involves politics and religion.
		I watched a little bit of it the last time he's on, and it's not very good.
		A lot of this stuff seems obsessed with a cryptid named the Dog Man.
unidentified		Ooh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His videos have a pretty small audience, so if Alex is having him on, it either means that Alex will have anyone on, or that this is more brokered programming.
		Sure.
		Or he agreed to the interview thinking it was Dark Journalist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is entirely possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He just might have seen the dark and be like, all right, that's good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or Dark Waters finally found the dog man and is going to meet the most dangerous thing.
unidentified		There we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I've become a Dark Journalist guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're a DJ, D?
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're a DJ, Dan?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so I. Can't really get excited when Dark Waters comes on.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was wrong.
unidentified		You were wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was unfamiliar with what he was going to bring to the table.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we're really doing aliens, huh?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This ain't aliens, man.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But I came in here, I didn't look at the notes he sent, and I saw what he was saying about we cannot abandon Trump now.
		Trump is a weapon of God's hand.
		No peace between Israel and Iran.
		A fast must be called from the throne of power.
		What is Trump contending with?
		And I've literally tried to get people that are defending Trump and what is going on on the show because I really wanted to hear from them, not to beat them up.
		They won't do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I thought the leftists were the ones who wouldn't come and debate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tapes of your own show from the past, you could just play those at yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's an option.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, Dark Waters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dark Waters is still on the Trump train.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's calling for a fast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he's rhyming every now and again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has a position that basically we prayed for Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump is a weapon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We can't let other people use this weapon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
unidentified		It is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is fair.
		No, no, no.
		That is the one position I think I would accept.
		This is what we prayed for.
		Let's ride it out.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have just lost our grip on the weapon.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll take that.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		The problem that people have is, and we expressed this the last time I was on the show with you, I said that you were a watcher.
		And a watcher's are people on the wall who see the enemy coming.
		And that watcher's job is to identify to the king, hey, we have a problem.
		So you've been doing what you're supposed to do as a watcher.
		You're being attacked because you were a watcher.
		Ladies and gentlemen, I need you to remember people made prayers for Donald Trump to be president of the United States.
unidentified		Yeah, he did.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		It's not like Donald just became president by happenstance.
		This was something that we all prayed for, for him to be the president of the United States.
		And so now we have a situation where the man that we pray for, who has an anointing from God, and Alex, you could attest to this.
		You've seen this that Donald Trump has an anointing that dethrones him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's 100% supernatural.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it's not him, it's God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're back on the train.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Supernatural.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Walker Rubin, Donald Trump, debate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's all it took.
unidentified		Gone.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Hillary Clinton, boom, gone.
		Everybody that's ever risen against Donald Trump and contested against him goes down.
		So what do you do with a man like Donald Trump who has an anointing from God that you can't defeat?
		You bubble wrap him, you control him.
		You point him like a weapon at who you want him to hit.
		And the problem that I have as a Christian is we, as the body of Christ and his nation, we don't understand that that is a weapon that God gave to us.
		And we have to fight for our weapon.
		We have to fight for control of our weapon.
		We can't just hand it over and throw up our hands and be like, oh, he pissed me off and it's done.
		We can't do that.
unidentified		Makes sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I, okay.
		It does.
		It, it, how about this?
		There is a through line.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it, it follows.
		Everything follows from one to the other.
		But if you listen to that man and understand that what he is talking about is supposed to be the real world, it should not surprise you that the president this man desires is shouting shit like, I will end a civilization.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And spoiler alert for later, I don't think that Dark Waters has that much problem with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't be.
		No, you can't.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that the fact that it does kind of make sense in terms of a position someone who likes Trump should have, it just highlights how much Alex doesn't make sense.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he's crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dark Waters is crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely nuts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it makes so much more sense than Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, but you know, it's like if you start from nuts, but then you have a through line, I don't know.
		Maybe you'll make it through to the sane side.
		You don't know.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right?
		But if you start with.
		No, well, you did know.
		But if you're just like, I'll try and do anything, you're going to lose.
		You're going to lose.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Dark Waters has an explanation for what's going on and why the weapon has been taken from them.
unidentified		Jesus?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I regret to inform you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That witches are back in the day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, hell yeah!
james williams ▲ ● ▼		The president has been under the greatest witchcraft attack that anybody's ever seen.
		That man is isolated.
		That man is alone.
		And the worst part about him is that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we should be praying for him.
		I agree.
		I said it some, but we should be totally praying for him because it's a battle over him right now.
		Just like the angels of the devil fought over Elijah's body.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Moses' body.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yep, they fought over Elijah's body.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Moses' body.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, you're right.
		Moses' body.
		And watch this.
		Understand this, ladies and gentlemen.
		The seat of presidency of the United States, the presidential seat, is a throne of power.
		Men sit in that throne of power and they retain power for a while.
		It's why Barack Hussein Obama didn't leave DC with the first time Donald Trump came in because he's set in the throne of power.
		So here we get who we get a Christian president, whereby they say, Oh, he's not Christian, he's in the Epstein files.
		We get a Christian president that comes in who sits in the throne of power.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He comes to the pro life rallies, nobody did it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He does the right legislation, he did the actual action.
unidentified		Right.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		He sits in the throne of power.
		He comes under assault.
		And then everybody's like, oh my God, we're going to abandon him.
		No, we cannot abandon President Donald Trump.
		I'm sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm hearing this, and I'm flashing back to at the beginning of this interview.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex said that he's trying to get pro Trump people to come on the show, and none of them will.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That leads me to believe that the best pro Trump argument someone is willing to make publicly on Alex's show is that Trump is under the sway of witches.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This reflects poorly on Trump and on Alex's booking department.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is rough times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I do like that there is a layer of actual wisdom below the witchcraft.
		Of like, yeah, if you isolate and fucking drive a man crazy, don't be surprised when he goes crazy.
		And it's like, yeah, that does make sense.
		But also, what if witches were involved?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's the greatest witchcraft attack that anyone has ever been on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would like a ranking of previous, like in The Ocean's Eleven, you know, where it was like, these are the people who got the closest to stealing from a casino.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would like a ranking of the greatest witchcraft attacks up until this point.
unidentified		Right?
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's what just immediately came to mind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that it's tough because the closest you can get to pulling this off or whatever, I think that's quantifiable.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		With witchcraft attacks, there's an art to it.
		Sure.
		So you're going to have a lot of debate between what's the greatest witchcraft attack.
unidentified		Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because some of them are like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
		Is it the largest?
		Is it the most.
unidentified		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You put subtles on it.
		Is it the one that is most, in essence, of witching?
		You know, the one that makes people most feel witchy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it reminds me of something I saw when I was in Santa Claus, Indiana.
		And that was that they have a Santa Claus Hall of Fame.
		And there is a dispute.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh my god, yes, they do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a dispute between various people who have been like the official Santa.
unidentified		Oh my god.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of who was the like best Santa.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh my god.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Some of them are like, this guy embodied Santa the best.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this guy was the original.
unidentified		Listen, listen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's how it is with witchcraft attacks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you've got, if Santa was your thing, yeah.
		You got to fight for that territory.
		You got to fight for it.
		People might say this is a petty fight.
		Disagree.
		You own that Santa Claus suit.
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's as good a use of time as talking about witches.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Trump's under this witchcraft attack.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the only way that we're going to be able to stop this is if someone in a seat of power calls for a fast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hell yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, what?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, how do we break that control?
james williams ▲ ● ▼		The way you break that control is what the Bible told us to do and what we've seen.
		When David sinned with Bathsheba, David ended up calling for a fast and making sacrifices under God.
		When Hezekiah was having trouble, they went on a fast.
		What has to happen is there needs to be a fast from one of the thrones of power in this nation.
		It could be JD Vance, who's a Christian.
		Hey, we're going to do a three day fast and pray for the president.
		It could be Susie Wiles, who's in the throne of the whatever her position is, is like the chief of staff.
		Hey, we can do a three day fast.
		For the president of the United States to break this off of him.
		It could be his wife.
		It could be his oldest son.
		It could be anybody that sits in power close to him and pray for the man and fast, make a sacrifice to the Lord.
		And we can repent and say, hey, Lord, we're wrong.
		This is up there.
		We went in the wrong direction.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trump's turned it around before.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It could be done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I think that there's something very wormy about Alex with just being like, oh, we can save this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then, as far as dark waters goes, I don't think a fast is going to help.
unidentified		Probably not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But let's take all of the magic out of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's still advocating for people in positions of high office to do something that acknowledges we should take this seriously.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At the very least, he's asking people to do anything.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm asking you just to not eat for a day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Treat this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We need someone in a powerful position to treat this not like normal time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How about some urgency?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How about some urgency, maybe?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if that urgency is expressed by let's not eat for three days, it's better than nothing.
unidentified		I guess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or, I mean, the nothing is better than the something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I hate to say that, like, you know, what he says makes sense, but it does more than Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, when I listen to him, I immediately go back to the 16th century, right?
		And I'm seeing all these Bibles start to pop up.
		And I'm the Catholic Church.
		And I'm like, dude, you do not know what you're unleashing.
		We got to destroy these printing presses.
		You don't know what's going to happen.
		And all of their reasons they thought made sense, right?
		All the things that they were like, Oh, I'm so scared that this is going to happen or we're going to lose power or we're going to lose all that stuff, right?
		Completely wrong.
		Here's what happens.
		That guy starts talking about Hezekiah taking a fast in 2026.
		You fucked up, Gutenberg.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Susie Wilds can do it because she's in some office of power.
unidentified		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
Bible Verses And Battle Axes 00:06:14
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Dark Waters has some scripture that he wants to get into.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I knew he would.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		We have to battle for him.
		Watch this.
		I'm going to give you another scripture.
		I want you to hear this.
unidentified		Watch.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Jeremiah.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		And tell me if this is not what Donald Trump has been doing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jeremiah 51, 2023.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		All right, thou art my battle axe and my weapon of war.
unidentified		Hell yeah.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		For with thee I will break in pieces the nation, and with thee I will destroy kingdoms, and with thee I will break in pieces the horse and the rider, and with thee I will break in pieces the chariot and the rider, and with thee also will I break in pieces the man and the woman, and with thee I will break in pieces old and young, and with thee will I break in pieces the young man, and I will burn around to the ground.
		I will also in pieces with thee the shepherd and his flock, and with thee will I break the peace in pieces, the husbandman and his yoke of oxen.
		And with thee will I break in pieces, captains and rulers.
		What has Donald Trump been doing on behalf of this nation?
		Wrecking shop.
		The man is a giant wrecking ball.
		He's a battle axe of the Lord.
		In fact, every Alex, you're a battle axe.
		Just running around, wrecking everybody.
unidentified		Run around.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		I'm a battle axe.
		Every Christian is called to be one of the Lord's battle axes.
		So if we have this beautiful, you know, vintage battle axe that's chopped off.
		Millions of heads and won millions of victories, but the handle breaks.
		Do we throw that battle axe away?
		No, we fixed the handle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was a battle axe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a terrible analogy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My mother in law.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yay, nice.
unidentified		Nice.
unidentified		Battle axe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've done stand up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, this is an interesting scripture.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it sounds hardcore, it sounds metal as fuck.
		So I'm down for that one.
		It's metal, but also probably not the one that I want some people hanging around with.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, I think some people could take you are a battle axe the wrong way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It probably goes the wrong way from time to time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's an important beginning to something that is fucking insane.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that happens in this next clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Mike down for this.
unidentified		Okay.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		There's these false expectations we have, although all the information is in front of us.
		So people are mad at Mark Levin.
		I expect Mark Levin to be a ranked devil.
		Sorry, I just expect him to behave like a ranked devil.
		Hold on, hold on, hold on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Pastor James Williams, Darkwater, stop.
		This literally.
		Rob Due just walked in there, a news director, been here 18 years.
		He just walked in.
		This was delivered to the door by FedEx two minutes ago.
		You talk about a biblical sign.
		This was just delivered to the door by FedEx two minutes ago.
		Rob, you just ran in here.
unidentified		What is it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You got a letter.
		What does this say?
		I mean, this is biblical.
		This is why God works.
		Somebody got touched by God days ago.
		I'm crying right now to mail this.
		This literally just showed up FedEx.
		Rob, come here.
		Sit down.
unidentified		Read this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What the hell's going on here?
		You just said, I mean, literally, as you said, Battleaxe, FedEx arrived.
		What the?
rob dew ▲ ● ▼		So, literally, about 10 minutes ago, The guy who runs the business side of things brought this to me.
		He goes, Usually we don't bring things over like this, but he goes, This just came in.
		He said it's a battle axe.
		I couldn't believe it.
		I heard you talking about it, Pastor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Someone sent a battle axe.
		What?
		It showed up right when Dark Waters read a verse about the battle axe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's unacceptable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's also very unconvincing community theater level performance this year.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's being unfair to community theater.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		No, that's pathetic.
		No, Not doing that.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		Refuse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I played the clip of Dark Waters reading that battleaxe related verse earlier for a reason, and that was because Alex said overhead shot during it, and that flashed up on screen his notes.
		One of the things he'd printed out for the day was a page of talking points that Dark Waters had sent him to cover, one of which was the line that Trump is, quote, not a politician, a battleaxe, and as Christians, so are we.
		They knew in advance that Dark Waters was going to read a Bible verse about battle axes, so I can't help but think that they just had an axe that a listener sent them at some point in the past, and they're pretending that it just showed up.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The problem is that Alex and Do are asking, or they're acting like this is amazing, but they're not acting like it's amazing enough.
		If an axe arrived at Infowars the moment a guy was being interviewed about God calling Trump to be a battle axe, they should be losing their fucking minds because this is playing out live.
		This is, in effect, a miracle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Though the crusades started for less.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The production notes for this episode that Alex accidentally puts on camera kind of make it a little too obvious that they could have faked this really easily.
		Also, when Dew sits down and reads this person's letter who sent the axe, they show his whole address and phone number, which is not cool.
		You have to be more correct and careful about protecting people's privacy when you're doing fake miracles as publicity stunts.
unidentified		Wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, that's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, So I was kind of interested in that.
		Like, okay.
		We just rewatched that amazing race season with the long lost twins.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think there's more than one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, that's the problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The young ladies?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I remember that one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Always, always, always on the side of long lost twins, of course.
		But then these two people said something that made me want to start a riot.
		And then everybody just acted like it was totally fine.
		And they were like, we both eat two hard boiled eggs in the morning and we feed the second one to our dog.
		Independently, they both came up with this very extremely specific thing that they do together and they're twins.
		And that's fucked up.
		It's unacceptable that that is allowed to happen on this earth.
		And then everybody's just like, ah, whatever.
		Weird coincidence like that.
Mindset Of God In Situation 00:15:00
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that in cases like this, and I don't want to impugn their storytelling.
		Sure.
		But I think that there might be a situation where one of them did it regularly and one of them might have done it before.
		And when they talk, The one who does it regularly tells this piece of their history, and the other one's like, Oh my God, I do that too.
unidentified		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it becomes a piece of the lore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that people have a tendency to do that kind of stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is what I'm saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It needs to be addressed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it doesn't.
		Not that one, because it's cute.
		Let people have it.
		Let people have the mythology of their relationship.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is faking a miracle on air in order to push Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if it gets more blasphemous than faking a miracle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Other than doing it on air, I mean, also while fake crying and probably praying, I'm assuming he's praying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We might get to some prayer a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, yep, there we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is also an element of it that Trump has just threatened to genocide Iran, and Alex has said he got much better sleep because God made him feel better after he called for the 25th Amendment.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is kind of all over the place.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's very strange.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a strange day.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, lest you think that Alex has faked this, he reassures everyone that he did not read these notes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Before the show, I was worried.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		God told him to do this just for this moment so people see how real God is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Look at that, that's another miracle right there.
rob dew ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
rob dew ▲ ● ▼		And the blood comes with the cross.
unidentified		There it is right there.
		Wow.
		Wow.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I didn't read what you said until 10 minutes before you came on.
rob dew ▲ ● ▼		No, I just got it and walked in here.
		I'm like, this needs to go on the air.
		It was a sign from God.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you what.
		Let me do something.
		We need to give God some glory right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, this is good.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Oh, fire.
unidentified		Wow.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Holy Ghost fire burns everywhere.
		Oh, fire.
		Holy Ghost fire burns.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you making that up?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure.
		I don't know, but he goes on a bit.
		The lyrics don't evolve.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you freestyling that?
		Are you just throwing that off the dome?
		Is that what we're doing here?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was watching this and it was like, Oh my God.
		You just started singing.
		This is awesome.
unidentified		Amazing.
unidentified		Amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They faked a miracle, and now he's singing the Holy Ghost Firebird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is the type of cheap shit I've been waiting for.
		This is what I am here for.
		I'm sick of the past, what, year and a half?
		Two years of shit.
		I'm out here for this, baby.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Give me that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dark Waters.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So after Dark Waters sings a little bit, he does a prayer with Alex in order to free Trump from the control of the witches.
unidentified		Good.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Lord, we decree and declare as the ecclesia now in the name of Jesus Christ that every form of witchcraft, sorcery, and divination that has been cast against our president is now broken.
		And we invoke and plead the blood of Jesus Christ against it, Lord.
		His realm of thoughts and his realm of imaginations, Lord, we invoke and plead the blood of Jesus Christ over that.
		And we decree and declare freedom for his mind, freedom for his heart, freedom from his soul.
		Wow, freedom from his soul that they've tried to hang.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And everyone must join us in praying for Trump right now.
		We're going to break this demonic spell right now.
		The name of Jesus.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Break it now in the name of Jesus Christ.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Lord, we thank you and we praise you and we honor you for this great opportunity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a great opportunity to free Trump from the spell of the demonic witches.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is important.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wonder about the mindset of a God if you think that an increase in oratory skill is going to also increase your likelihood of receiving what you desire from said God, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I mean, Alex has a rich tradition of that sovereign citizen stuff, right?
		The technicalities and capital letters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so maybe he does think, like, we got to speak this real well.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
unidentified		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
		I'm thinking about the mindset of the God in this situation.
		What's up with this dude?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a stickler for pronunciation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which languages are the best for him?
		You know what I'm saying?
		Are we talking somebody who's speaking in this language is better at just by virtue of the language they're speaking?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think it's obvious that English is the best.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you might argue that, like, oh, these holy texts, they weren't written in English.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, there is that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But English, do you think it's a coincidence that every language can be translated into English?
		That's God.
		No other language.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the best thing I've ever heard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the best argument I've ever heard for anything in my life.
unidentified		I submit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It makes too much sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I submit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't go French to Russian?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have to go French to English to Russian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm on board with this God now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It happened fast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So God came to this guy months ago and told him to make this axe.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Specifically so it would arrive while Dark Waters was on this show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Speaking his prophecy.
unidentified		Very specific.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But how crazy is this?
		This is delivered in the last 30 minutes.
		Rob's delivered it 10 minutes ago.
		He's watching them with battle axes.
		They walk in with this thing, and the man says, I was told by God in Oklahoma, make this for you.
		Like close encounters for you.
		He was told to make the mountain.
		I had to send this to you, and my son said, send it.
		And it perfectly arrives right as you're talking about it.
		That is the power of God literally telling us that your message was true.
		God obviously knows the future, foresaw all this moment to back up what you just said.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Watch this.
		JD Vance.
unidentified		Watch this shit.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Lizzie Wiles, Caroline Lovett, every Christian inside the White House, call a fast.
		You can just have the Christian fast.
		Call a fast.
		Call a fast.
		Call a fast of the ecclesia, the entire church to fast fast.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God, you just said it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		God's whole point was to make them listen to you about the fast.
unidentified		Call a fast.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		And so, call a fast.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And God literally just took a highlight of everything you just said in God's plan, literally had someone make this months ago, be pushed by God.
		His son said, send it now to perfectly arrive, not last week, not yesterday, today.
		20 minutes ago, to Rob Do See It, delivered it saying, This is for Alex.
		We talked.
		The guy that delivered didn't even know this was going on.
unidentified		Perfect.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's God's perfection right there.
		You just saw it.
		Is that it?
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And look how badass it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's also a badass ex.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So here's the other problem with this God.
		I get you.
		The oration, English, obviously, your argument is fantastic.
unidentified		Thank you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This particular situation, especially the way that Alex is describing it, Has the feel of a god on the couch with another dude going, You are not going to believe this shit.
		Check this out.
		I fucking mailed this shit.
		You're not going to believe this.
		They're going to go crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like it brings to mind people who set up elaborate dominoes.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like in order to watch them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got to get something else to do with your life, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a hobby.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is a hobby, but I don't like that the battle axe in my life is involved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that Alex is convincing.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rob Dew.
		That is nuts.
		Yep.
		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there is a chance that, like, unbeknownst to us, Rob Dew is like an acid casualty or something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And, like, he just doesn't have any affect.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's in there?
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's in there, Dew?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So maybe he is freaking out, but he just can't express it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's possible.
unidentified		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I will say, I have to, while we're on the subject of experts that Alex has on whose names start in dark, I like watching this as a catchphrase much better than dark journalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No question about it.
unidentified		Right.
		Right.
		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, watch this is great.
		That's so great.
		Watch this is one of the best things to say.
		Watch this is always great because either it is somebody who's about to do something cool or somebody who's about to fail in a cool way.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that I say look and listen a bit.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, and I don't generally mean them to be like emphatic, aggressive.
unidentified		Asshole.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, asshole.
unidentified		Watch this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Watch this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Watch this comes with a smile.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Watch this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, did God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of dominoes here.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And one of them, it turns out, was picking Dark Water's wardrobe.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Before I come on the show, I'm sitting, I said, God, what do you want me to do?
		He said, I want you to give him the scriptures and send them everything that you're going to talk about.
		And I was like, You sure I need to do that?
		And he sent it to him.
		And then I have one thing, he said, No, give the scriptures on it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because you didn't do that last time.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I didn't, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are we doing this?
james williams ▲ ● ▼		That's what he told me to do.
		He's like, give him a script, man.
		And I was like, okay, give him a script.
		And I shot it off to my producer.
		My producer shot it off to your producer.
		And I'm like, okay.
		And then he was like, now go sit down and relax and get ready to go.
		So I, you know, then I actually sat down.
		I had a different shirt on.
		He said, no, go put on your sports jacket and a white shirt.
unidentified		I said, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What a weird guy.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Because my thing is, ladies and gentlemen, God will speak to you if you pray to him.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		If you ask him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In fact, you rarely wear a sports jacket.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I guess God wants to be a special.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are we doing this?
james williams ▲ ● ▼		He said, put on the jacket, put on the shirt.
		He never says that.
		Be like, what you, because I'm, I'll say, Lord, what do you want me to wear?
		Whatever you want to wear.
		Okay, cool.
unidentified		Okay, cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		God doesn't generally say you should wear something nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that that speaks to the fact that God knew that this was going to be a miracle and he wanted him to look nice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like it's a professional, like you're going to an award show or something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dress up.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like his, I like his extremely personal relationship with God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Almost too personal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Weirdly personal.
		Sartorial in the closet behind me.
		Kind of what you want me to wear, I don't care, buddy.
		I'm out here.
		Somebody needs to win a sports game somewhere, and I'm supposed to be doing that.
		And now I got to tell you to wear a sports jacket.
		Wear a sports jacket, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jesus, it's good friends.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gonna mail you a battle axe, that makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's good stuff, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Man, people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So earlier on the show, Alex played his interview with Marjorie Taylor Greene, sure, and she had some problems with Trump's Easter tweet, yeah.
		Conversely, Dark Waters loved that, he thought it was great, okay.
		And Alex is starting to get a little annoyed that Dark Waters is not impressed by the miracle that has just happened.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		But you're going to have to be truthful with the man.
		If you love him and you dare to serve him, you have to be truthful with him.
		And then let the Lord deal with the rest of it because he's God's anointed.
		And that's what we have to do.
		We can't get our feelings hurt because he says mean things.
		We can't get our feelings hurt because he sent a mean tweet out on Easter where he was actually on some Elijah type stuff when Elijah was against the priestess of Baal on Mount Carmel.
		He was like, well, where is your God?
		Is he in the privy?
		When I read it, I bust out laughing because I said, This dude is wild.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I agree with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I agree with that.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		I was like, Dang, Donald, you're wilding out.
		So, not only are you telling him you're going to blow him up, but you're teasing a God, saying he can't stop me from blowing you up?
		But people don't see it that way.
		They saw it as, Let's sit with us.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's sit with us.
		You got to come back the next week.
		Because I'm not mad at you.
		You kind of moved on from it, which I'm not saying it's bad.
		But I had you on about the aliens right before you send a list and look at it.
		I'm like, What's this about?
		God's a battle axe, and we got to hear, okay?
		Well, let's go there then, because I want to hear a defense of Trump.
		I mean, I need that.
		And then you're like, you're a battle axe, I'm a battle axe, but Trump's our battle axe.
		We got to fight over the weapon.
		And then literally, FedEx pulls up right when you're on.
		They walk in with a letter saying, God told me to make you this battle axe and send it to you as a message to keep fighting.
		I mean, show the battle axe, folks.
		That is incredible.
		This is one of the most incredible things ever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex is basically saying one more time with feeling.
		Let's take this again.
		And let's act like you just saw a miracle, man.
		You paid for the upgraded package of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The miracle package.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are not playing the game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		I mean, what do you do?
		I think that's.
		You gotta let me in on a game like that.
		You know, you gotta have a.
		You can't expect me to improv.
		You can't expect me to yes and a miracle without going, like, buddy, I think this is bullshit.
		You know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I wonder where the communication point was.
		Like, at what.
		Who's idea was it to, like, kick this up a notch?
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because if it was Darkwater's idea, then, like, he is kind of underselling this.
		Yeah.
		And he's acting poorly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you're totally right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if this is just something that, like, There was an axe around the office, and Rob Dew brought it in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's throw this out as a game, see what happens.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Then it makes sense that Dark Waters is kind of like, you know, he's rolling with it kind of as well as he can.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, look, I sang.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I gave you a little random song word.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if this is Alex's idea, that's awesome.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It feels very strongly like it's come from the Infowars side based upon Alex's fury at not being acknowledged for being the greatest talk show host ever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe, but I think that that fury could come also from someone who is like, hey, you wanted to do this, and now you're not helping me sell it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that would explain the.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Both would be very angry making.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we come to the end of Dark Waters' interview, and Alex asks for a prayer on the way out.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We got a minute left.
		Lead us in a prayer for Trump's defense and Trump's wagging, defend him from these evil people around him, and we take back control through the Holy Spirit.
		God gets back control of Trump.
		He gets back under God's control.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Sure, let's hit it real quick.
		Lord, we thank you and plead the blood of Jesus Christ over sin, iniquity, and transgression and speak against us into the courts of heaven.
		And Lord, we honor you because you are our God.
		You are a rock and our strong tower.
		You are our deliverer.
unidentified		Thanks, buddy.
unidentified		Lord, what up?
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Lord, let me say a prayer for the InfoWars crew.
		Lord, as Alex Jones is the head of the InfoWars crew, Lord, I ask that you give him rest.
		And Lord, any wicked spirits that have attached to him or gleamed onto him because of the stress and anxiety that have hit him, Lord, your word says, be ye anxious for nothing, but in all things through prayer and supplication, make your request.
		Lord, I ask that every request and prayer that the InfoWars crew and its members have made unto you, Lord, we ask that according to scripture, you answer those prayers.
		Lord, the spirit of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope, you hesitated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't count your prayer.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Lord, that's trying to attack each and every person in that building like it's outside of the building.
james williams ▲ ● ▼		Lord, Spirit, we bind you now in the name of Jesus Christ.
Candace Owens Hottest Moment 00:15:18
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There hasn't been any mention of alcoholism up till this point.
unidentified		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it really sounds like he's reading off something.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex cuts him off mid prayer to go to break, so I don't know if he pissed Alex off with that or not, but it felt really weird.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, unbeknownst to Alex and Dark Waters, right around when they're saying this prayer, they're just reveling in the miracle that is the magic battle axe.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The witches were planning their counter move.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At 3 28 p.m. on this very day, Trump took to Truth Social and posted the following I warn you in advance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is very long.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm stoked.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have no fucking idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot of Trump words.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I want to hear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Quote I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones have been fighting me for years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
		Oh, shit.
		I was fucking the checklist.
		The checklist is happening.
		It's everything.
		Everything will be taken from you.
		Like a fucking Gertha novel or some shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that there's going to be a lot of this.
		And I encourage it.
		I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones have been fighting me for years, especially by the fact that they think it is wonderful for Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror, to have a nuclear weapon.
		Because they have one thing in common low IQs.
		They're stupid people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Now we're talking.
		They're stupid people.
		I don't know what he was saying.
		My IQ is too low to understand if that's an insult.
		Now I get it, baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're stupid people.
		They know it.
		Their families know it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Their families know it.
		Their families do know it, though.
		Their family, that's just an honest one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everyone else knows it too.
		Look at their past.
		Look at their record.
		They don't have what it takes, and they never did.
		They've been thrown off television, lost their jobs, and they aren't even invited on TV because no one cares about them.
unidentified		For you!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All of this was done for you, just like I told them it would be thrown away!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everyone knew that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh my god.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They've got low IQs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're nut jobs, troublemakers, and will say anything for some free and cheap publicity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can't argue with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now they think they'll get some clicks because they have.
		Third rate podcast, but nobody's talking about them, and their views are the opposite of MAGA.
		Or I wouldn't have won the presidential election in a landslide.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, I'm confused.
		I'm confused.
		Here's my one point of order.
		Because up to this point, Trump, I've loved everything you've said so far.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These people are dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's fantastic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They are chasing the pageant.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		These are solid insults.
		I do love that you brought their families into it.
		That's perfect.
		That's beautiful and sweet.
		I don't understand this last part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're the opposite of MAGA.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, You're the president.
		You can't say no one is talking about them.
		You are.
		You're the most person to talk about anybody.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I know there's an inherent problem with that.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		You just can't do that.
		You can just leave it, but leave that one out.
		You know, you don't need to.
		That doesn't get in the way of anything else, just taking that out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what stings for these people who are talking about them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
		I get you.
		I'm just saying, if we're going for clarity, I'd cut that out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Listen, there was no editing done on that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe that strongly.
unidentified		I believe that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		MAGA agrees with me and just gave CNN a 100% approval rating of Trump.
		But hand flailing fools like Tucker Carlson, who couldn't even finish college, he was a broken man when he got fired from Fox, and he's never been the same.
		Perhaps he should see a good psychiatrist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, please.
		Back on it.
		Back on track.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or Megyn Kelly, who nastily attacked me with the now famous only Rosie O'Donnell question, or crazy Candace Owens, who accuses the highly respected First Lady of France of being a man when she is not, and will hopefully win lots of money in the ongoing lawsuit.
		Okay.
		Actually, to me, the First Lady of France is a far more beautiful woman than Candace.
		In fact, it's not even close.
unidentified		Ha ha ha ha.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, this is the type of shit that you can only get from truly crazy.
		Yes.
		Only true crazy would have to add that.
		I can't, listen, I can't not appreciate the beauty of a woman.
		I just got to tell you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just got to tell you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She's hotter than you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She's hotter than you.
unidentified		You're ugly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or bankrupt Alex Jones, who says some of the dumbest things and lost his entire fortune as he should have for his horrendous attack on the families of the Sandy Hook shooting victims.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everything, everything will be taken from you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everything you have loved, I will eat as if you die.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ridiculously claiming it was a hoax.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These so called pundits are losers, and they always will be.
		Now, fake news, CNN, the failing New York Times, and all the other radical left news organizations are hailing them and giving them positive press for the first time in their lives.
		They're not MAGA.
		They're losers, just trying to latch on to MAGA.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As president, I could get them on my side anytime I wanted to, but when they call, I don't return their calls because I'm too busy on world and country affairs.
		And after a few times, they go nasty, just like Marjorie Trader Brown.
		But I no longer care about that stuff.
		I only care about doing right for our country.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, I got to edit you down again.
		See, you totally do.
		You've just written a very long paragraph.
		Just cut that little part out.
		Yeah, just cut that little part out.
		You don't need it.
		Move on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		MAGA is about winning and strength, and not.
		Allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons.
		MAGA is about making America great again, and these people have no idea to do that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But I do!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because the United States is now the hottest country anywhere in the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		President Donald J. Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the end of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The end of it is the USA is now the hottest country anywhere in the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All caps and hottest is in quotes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of stuff in here that I tried to accentuate, like that is capital letters and quotes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You tried to give it a good cold read?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's a mess, man.
		It's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The U.S. is now the hottest country in the.
unidentified		He says that a bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hottest country.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As opposed to like when Biden was in office, we were not cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We were not happening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he hasn't been 25th Amendmented before this.
unidentified		Wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that post, pretty crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pretty good stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is.
		I don't even.
		I mean, Poetic doesn't describe it.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Poetic can't describe it because it is not poetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In a way, it has.
unidentified		Sure.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Beauty is truth and truth is beauty.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is pretty beautiful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we were mid recording our last episode when he posted this.
		And when I went to lay down for a minute afterwards, I got a text from Amanda with a link to it.
		And I can't tell you how funny I thought it was.
		Oh, my God.
		I was losing my shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a surface level to this where this is the first time I can remember Trump acknowledging Alex in public since 2015.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's a brutal takedown.
unidentified		Oh, it's lovely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of the times when he could have said nice things about Alex or boosted his profile a little, Trump was silent.
		But now this is clear and direct.
		But there's another level to it, which is that a couple of these insults are exactly the kind of stuff a real asshole would say to get under Alex's skin.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has issues with feeling inadequate, particularly in relation to his family, where he has to create a mythical hero out of his dad.
		And he clearly has no respect for his own son.
		So, Trump saying that his family knows he's stupid is brutal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that one's heartbreaking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex also has inferiority issues around never really being accepted by the mainstream and media.
		Trump saying that these people are losers who are kicked off TV or never on because they're irrelevant is an affirmation of one of the deep insecurities Alex has, as demonstrated by his desperate star fucking behavior directed at any celebrities who will pay him any attention.
		Finally, making a strong stance like that about Sandy Hook is a haymaker.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex's argument about how he got screwed over by the CIA and FBI because he supported Trump is so flimsy that it really requires no one dissenting from it, particularly not someone in Trump's position.
		This is the guy who Alex was supposedly persecuted for supporting.
		The trials were a witch hunt against Alex, but they were really trying to get at Trump.
		And here's Trump saying that Alex deserved to be bankrupted for what he said about Sandy Hook and how it was horrendous.
		And it's an example of Alex how he says the dumbest things.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As soon as I saw this, I felt something I'd not felt in a while.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I had legitimately no idea what Alex was going to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a good point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There have been times when I felt like I wasn't sure which path he was going to choose, and I've been surprised by the angles he'd picked on some things like the Epstein cover up.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This was different.
		Even as big as the Epstein stuff was with his audience, there was a way to downplay it.
		This Truth Social post was a case where there is no response Alex can make that's a win, and there is no way he can get away with not responding.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The president just said that he's a liar whose family knows he's dumb who deserves to lose all his money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's happening immediately after Alex and Dark Waters faked a miracle and called for a fast to save Trump from the witches.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is now that is poetic.
		Yes.
		That is a coincidence that should be a miracle on par with the battle axe if it were actually what it was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These are the times that try men's souls.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		What do you do?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is not a really good way forward.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I, when you, there were two things.
		There were two things that I immediately thought at the end of that, right?
		Which is that as devastating as all of those things were, upon further reflection, the most devastating thing that he said is a true thing, which is, I can get them whenever I want.
		I can get them whenever I want.
		That would, that would be like, to me, right?
		My reaction to this in my head, what Alex has to do is scream, You fucked me, and now we go.
		Now we fight.
		We fight to the death.
		You and me are now mortal enemies.
		I will do everything I can to take everything away from you because you said that you can call on me whenever you want.
		And I can't allow that to be true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Trump, I misrepresented or I misinterpreted God's message with the Battle X.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's coming for you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's coming for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That really should be the only way to get rid of you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are doing this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this happens after Alex's show, and Harrison is on air on the war room.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody brought in a frantic letter from.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		FedEx, I've printed out a part of the internet for you to see.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		No?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there is a very clear talking point.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is that Alex is not mad.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Again, you know, it's like you're going to see a bunch of, for lack of a better term, people like Laura Loomer and Mark Levin, you know, sounding off on this in case, as if this is a big, devastating attack.
		It's just not.
		That's probably the most pathetic thing about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You get him, Harrison.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones didn't even get angry at this.
		I'm just saying.
		I'm just saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is crying right now.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		A man named Alex Jones.
		He's sort of known for, just put it mildly, a little bit of a temper.
		He's got a little bit of a temper sometimes.
		I think you'll all know that.
		We appreciate it.
		It's what makes him him.
		But yeah, it's not even like we're not even getting angry.
		It's just like, okay.
		I'm sorry this happened to you.
		Like, this is weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do not tell anyone I'm mad.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm not mad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I cannot be mad.
		I've never been mad in my life.
		This is the most justifiably mad you could ever be.
		This is Highlander shit.
		There can be only one.
		At the end of this, you or me, not both.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Alex has left the studio.
		Otherwise, he probably would have barged in on Harrison and explained how not mad he was.
		Oh, he wasn't mad at him.
		But we got this instead.
		And this is convincing.
		I think that Harrison is really swinging me on the mad thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anytime I need to be convinced of something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Harrison is the one that's going to do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Because you know what?
		Harrison is like, he's to the point.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He also doesn't get bogged down and sounding like a weenie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That'd be terrible.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's like, I guess this is just our lot.
		It's just our lot in life we just get nothing.
		We just get nothing.
		We get these people elected.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		And they immediately turn around and sell us down the river and embrace the people who are fighting against them and trying to stop them.
		It really is pathetic what they've done to Donald Trump.
		Very sad.
		He's got 5 million followers and he gets 12,000 views and less than 400 likes on this post.
		They, what they're beyond what?
		Like it's not even like.
		Again, I've, I've, you just really have to think about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This has big, nice guys finish last kind of energy.
		And I'd like to remind Harrison that he works at fucking InfoWars and that there's no crying in baseball.
		The guy who you based your career and identity around promoting just called your boss an idiot who deserves his own destruction.
		This isn't the time for emo whining about how you always get left at the altar because you're fighting an intergalactic war against the devil.
		This is nonsense.
		Cut it out with this shit.
unidentified		Pathetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine that Harrison is thinking anything other than, man, I wish I'd quit in solidarity with Owen.
unidentified		Should have done it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was a fucking chance to get out of here, and I blew it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
		I bet Owen is fucking.
		Owen feels probably better than the rest of the world combined.
		Owen is probably the only person who can truly feel the pure joy because we still hate him.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We still have to hate both of these guys.
		Owen.
		Owen can truly love this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wasn't in that tweet.
unidentified		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's, oh man, good for him.
		Hey, the moment he stops being a puppet, things go better for him.
		Isn't that crazy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not much better.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, listen, let's not go crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to be as successful, but you'll be a little freer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You'll be a little bit freer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You'll probably be a lot happier.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Harrison whines a bit more about how Trump is ungrateful.
Last Straw For Owen 00:03:49
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then suggests that Pakistan should nuke Israel.
unidentified		Okay.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		He said, I know Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones have been fighting me for years.
		Now, again, Alex Jones has been very deeply dedicated to resisting the drive to criticize Trump and has been criticized and attacked for it endlessly.
		Again, doesn't appreciate it.
		What was that?
		What the hell was that?
		Pull that up.
		Who is this?
		Syrian girl wrote, Pakistan defense minister is furious over Israel's destruction of ceasefire.
		So this is the.
		Pakistan defense minister says Israel is evil and a curse for humanity.
		While peace talks are underway in Islamabad, genocide is being committed in Lebanon.
		Innocent civilians are being killed by Israel, first Gaza, then Iran, now Lebanon.
		Bloodletting continues unabated.
		I hope and pray for people who created this cancerous state on Palestinian land to get rid of the European Jews burn in hell.
		I pray people who created the cancerous state of Palestine burn in hell.
		Israel is evil and a curse for humanity.
		He has his hand on the Pakistan nuclear button.
		I think you should press it.
		I think you should nuke Israel, Pakistan.
		Here's my idea Nuke Israel.
		Okay.
		Let's get real while everybody I said so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's get crazy.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		It would be just.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		It would be just and right and good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, these guys are against nuclear war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They have some strong principles that they adhere to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, okay.
		In the context of previous times, whenever Alex was like, Trump will look like a weenie forever, that's nuclear brinkmanship.
		With the whole world's foreign policy.
		That's bad negotiation.
		All of those things, right?
		Petty.
		You got to put that shit aside.
		This is pettiness personified.
		You can't look like a weenie.
		You cannot.
		And you look like a weenie right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's nothing is real.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have only paint at your disposal to draw a picture, and you're choosing to draw a picture of yourself as a fucking loser.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are free.
		He's freed you.
		He has freed you in a way that you haven't been free for a Decade, you can say the F word, you can say whatever the fuck you go for it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And, like, let's be honest, there's a certain amount of freedom that Harrison has that Alex doesn't, yeah.
		And so, he's even more free, yep.
		And by that, this is what he gives us, yeah, even more of a weenie, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go back, go back inside of a cage, little boy, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's sad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, anyway, this is the last straw, yeah.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		We just can we put the old man in a home already?
		This is this is kind of it, right?
		This is kind of like the last straw, like, it's so clearly.
		He's so clearly lost and co opted and controlled by these Jewish influences around him.
		It's very sad.
		It's very sad and pathetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm excited to hear what the next last straw will be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just want them to.
		I know it's the most difficult thing, I think, in the world for a human being to do, but just go, this is the inevitable consequences of my own actions.
		I am the cause of this harm.
		It is not the Jews.
unidentified		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's your decision to have this relationship with him.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, he does this to people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You deluded yourself or whatever into whatever beliefs you thought you might be able to get out of it.
		We all told you where you're going to wind up, and now you're here.
		So just accept that that's what happened instead of being like, eh, I'll do it again next time because maybe the Jews won't be around.
		That's insane.
Bankruptcy And Job Security 00:12:25
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or at very least, make the most of it.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, have a good time out of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't be surprised by this turn of events.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if somebody frees you from not being.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if you're allowed to be the Joker, just go to town, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But look, here's the thing Harrison's been betrayed a lot in the past, and this brings up some tough feelings that he has.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I have trouble being bitter about this.
		I think I have a pretty high tolerance for being betrayed.
		It's happened to me a lot.
		I don't know why.
		People just do this sort of stuff, you know?
		It's just like you just do everything for them.
		Like I said, I mean, my life has been made tangibly worse by the bankruptcy lawsuits.
		It's been a gigantic source of stress and frustration, the crap we've had to go through because of the bankruptcy or just the anxiety of not knowing.
		You know, if I'm gonna have a job the next day or whatever, and again, people mock that too.
		Oh, what, you're shutting down again?
		It's like, yeah, it sucks, actually.
		It actually sucks having your entire existence the whim of some federal bankruptcy court.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure exactly what I would have expected from Harrison, but this is so weak.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is pathetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all just whining and it feels defensive and childish.
		Also, I'd like to respond to his claim that the bankruptcy has negatively affected his life by saying that he's using the wrong data points.
		His salary is probably lower than it could be if Alex didn't go broke, and if you just look at that, then it seems like he's making a good point.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The problem is that he's not taking into consideration that he sucks at his job and would have been fired if he worked for anybody else.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Immediately.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whatever he's making is much more than he should make, and he wouldn't be able to find an on air job literally anywhere else.
unidentified		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The bankruptcy actually worked strongly to Harrison's advantage because it made Infowars a way less appealing place to work, so the potential competition pool was much thinner.
unidentified		Mm hmm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In a company that didn't hire most of its talent through contests, Harrison would not be able to cut it against professionals.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the fact that Alex has been so fucked has kind of provided him a measure of job security.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 100%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What I'm saying is that this glass half empty thinking is fucking annoying, and I miss Chase.
unidentified		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I miss Chase.
		I know.
		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he would have been quoting fascists of history about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He would have gone crazy.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He would have been a delight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I mean, this is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, but this is, again, this is why.
		This is why Alex was always destined to fail, is because he can never have anybody who could threaten his ability on air.
		Because right now is the perfect chance to take.
		This is.
		Alex isn't there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a chance that if Owen was hosting the war room, he would just have a breakdown of like, no, fuck this shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		This is your chance to go absolutely apeshit insane on InfoWars in a way that Alex doesn't have the courage to do, which will be a fucking.
		For Harrison Smith, that would be a launch pad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I think that Harrison kind of thinks he is doing that by saying they should nuke Israel.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's saying that Jewish influences.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's going to be a weenie forever, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think he thinks that he's having kind of a moment, but it's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And even compare his moment on air when J6 happened to this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We have the Capitol or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was so much more elation and being in the pocket there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whereas this is meh.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, everyone betrays me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You tear your fucking.
		Shirt open like the like Hogan, like you go, and then you go off.
		How is this your response?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's rough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is oh man, he would be fired anywhere else.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Harrison starts to reflect on, like, I think Trump would probably kill me if he had a chance.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		How much you want to bet you don't exist?
		Kill us if he could.
		What do you think the likelihood is that if he could, Trump would just drop a bomb on us?
		The far right, right wingers that got him elected in the first place.
		He's a piece of shit.
		I mean, there's really nothing more.
		It's like the more I think about it, the more it's just like, damn, we really did get fooled.
		We really did get conned.
		He really is what our enemies said he was.
		So, just sad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So sad.
unidentified		Wow.
		Yeah.
		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Globalists were right about Trump all along.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got fooled.
		This guy's a piece of shit.
		Also, we're not angry about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, here's the thing that just occurred to me.
		Everywhere I've ever worked, I kind of got a feel for the history of the place or the general vibe of the place or like the identity overall.
		You know, if you're talking about the Cubs, corporate culture, you know, there's an identity there.
		That is different from other teams.
		You know, they've got their own identity here.
		We've got, or we're a tough kind of town, that kind of thing right there.
		How is it that you can be in InfoWars and think this is acceptable?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think it's things have changed a bit.
		You know, like, all I can think about is, like, Alex screaming at Piers Morgan about some imaginary plot that Piers had to take his guns.
		Yep.
		Like, compared to Harrison, oh, Trump is really good.
unidentified		He's a piece of shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So sad.
unidentified		I'm so sad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I just think that this is an unlistenable wine fest.
unidentified		Yep.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		So again, you know, it's like it's this is what I mean is that it's actually not a reflection on us.
		That's the thing, like, you need to understand.
		It's not, we're not sitting here like, oh my God, what did we do wrong?
unidentified		You should be!
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		So we haven't done anything wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got fooled.
unidentified		Jesus Christ.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Just added on to the betrayal.
		And it proves us right.
		And it proves us absolutely right that all the hope that people had in Donald Trump turns out to be utterly misplaced.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The hope that you had and you profited off selling.
		Like, it's just, this comes off like, I don't know who could want this.
		I get that there's Nazi shit mixed in.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I know that some people get a charge out of that.
unidentified		I guess.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But this guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Comes off like the weeniest of weenies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is, I mean, if I was going to have anybody be blindsided, if I'm, here's the thing though, if I'm Alex, right, if I was going to have anybody be blindsided by this, I wouldn't be Harrison.
		Nobody's watching.
		He's doing such a poor job, people will turn it off.
		Yeah.
		Even if they were watching.
		So you don't have to worry about the consequences of what he does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because I think that some people would still stick around because they think, oh, Alex is going to fucking wake up from his nap and he's going to barge it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I still think that there's like a little bit of a we're going to hear the glass break.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stone Cold's going to storm into the studio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But either way, to be blindsided by it on air, that's, that's, you want Harrison to have that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of the on air talents that he has now, I think that his son, Rex, has been hosting the American Journal a bit.
unidentified		Good for him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I think like you definitely don't want Rex on air.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's, that'd be fun though.
unidentified		It would.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He would be, he'd be so unequipped to do something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's so personal and shit.
		Like you do.
		You really don't want that.
		It'd be a delusion.
		It probably is the best shot of InfoWars employees.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Except for maybe Rob Dew.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's stoic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rob Dew would be great.
		Ah, looks like Trump said all this stuff.
		Ah, well, you know, people say things all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I feel great.
		So, Harrison gets a clip of Alex responding.
		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Alex has responded outside of InfoWars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has shot a video in his car.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
		All right.
		So, Alex is driving home when this news hits.
		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think maybe he's driving to go beat something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And actually.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Throwing thing, shooting range, yeah, but uh, yeah, he.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I gotta say, I don't know if it's because it's mixed in with Harrison's response, but Alex's response actually kind of seems classy.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		So, again, it's not like oh, you know, Trump turned on us, so now we're gonna turn on him.
		It's like Trump turning on us is like evidence that he's gone, it's like evidence that it's not worth it to try to, you know, say hey.
		He's not the best, but he's all we've got.
		It's like, no, no, no.
		He has a serious underlying major dysfunction that means that he is constantly taken advantage of by the worst people and yet is loyal to them to a fault.
		And the people who are loyal to him are all just suckers.
		Seriously.
unidentified		Really sucks.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		It really does.
		All right, let's go to this Alex Jones response to Trump's little tantrum, his little tantrum.
		Let's watch.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, President Trump came out on True Social and attacked myself and all the original Mago supporters today.
		And I'm just so sad that whatever's happened to him has totally changed the man he once was.
		He did so much good.
		That said, it followed just a few hours after Melania Trump came out unannounced.
		Poorly, Trump didn't know.
		And said she wasn't involved with Epstein and she supports a full investigation by Congress of the Epstein cover up.
		Trump says Epstein's a hoax.
		So this reminds me of.
		Melinda Gates, Melinda French, when she started turning against Bill, also over Epstein.
		So Trump's got big problems, folks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is pretty good stuff from Alex.
		I got to tip the hat when he comes through with something that kind of works.
		Bringing up Melania doing a press conference to say that she didn't meet Trump through Epstein and suggesting that she's doing that to distance herself from Trump because he's clearly implicated in all this stuff, that's a way to ignore the substance of what Trump said and still make the response kind of an attack.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it still kind of sucks.
		And the fact that it's only a couple hours after Alex participated in an on air miracle about how they have to save Trump from the witches, it kind of takes away from the impact of this stoic response.
		But it's not bad for something on the fly that he shot in his car.
		Like, he's not going to be able to, like, punch the horn or slam on the.
		Like, he's just going to look like a baby if he's freaking out in his car.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not at the studio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When you get to the studio, like, I don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got to turn your car around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I'm just crazy.
		Maybe I'm just crazy, but it is like.
		If this happens, I am thinking, if I'm Alex, I'm thinking, I'm going to make as much money as I can off of this.
		This is going to be the best thing ever.
		This frees me from having to do the shitty shit I have been doing.
		I can make my show much more interesting.
		I'll be more interesting, period.
		And so what I do is I spin the car around.
		I tell Harrison to get the fuck out of here.
		I make the whole fucking scene blank for a while.
		Nobody's even on air, but it's always streaming.
		It's all there, emptiness.
		And then I show up.
		I walk in, I rip my fucking shirt off, there are flames showing up behind me like pyrotechnics, and I am fucking screaming directly into the camera.
		The idea that I would be like, you know, this is real bad behavior from an adult is absurd to me.
unidentified		It is, it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think the only alternative to what you're pitching is if Alex was in his car and he explains to the audience, I am going to.
		Drive to Florida and shoot Roger Stone with a dart full of polonium.
		I'm going to finish the job on that motherfucker.
		And I'll see you in a week.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would accept him holding somebody by the throat off camera.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just like him, just say, Don't worry about what this arm is doing.
Trump Blackmailed With Pictures 00:11:10
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't you worry about it.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's check the headlines Roger Stone missing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, weird.
rob dew ▲ ● ▼		Weird how that happens.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a good thing I'm not in Doug Carr.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unrelated to where my arm is.
unidentified		Uh oh.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Man, this is sad.
		These people suck.
		These people suck.
		When they're supposed to step up, they fail.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's the rest of Alex's car response.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is a terrible day, and it's a nightmare for America and the world, but I'm going to tell the truth, report on the facts, no matter what it is.
		Was I somewhat naive that I defend Trump too long?
		He did so much good.
		Yeah, I did.
		Are people that, you know, set out to fit him too long, are they right?
		Yeah, it looks like they are.
		Find a victory lap.
		But I did it from a place of believing he was the lesser of two evils.
		And I guess at the end of the day, justice be done may have its fall.
		There's no such thing as lesser of two evils.
		So I took the establishment attacking him as the sign I should support him.
		I took myself being attacked for supporting him as the sign I should support him.
		And now it's certainly clear that this new Donald Trump is somebody we shouldn't support, and I'm not.
		So I'm energetically opposing him.
		I'm calling for his way for the amendment if he continues to call for nuclear war and genocide.
		Hopefully he backs down.
		We'll continue to report as this unfolds, but that's the facts.
		Melania Trump, they've said, you know, it was turned against Trump years ago.
		I never believed it, but now she's definitely countermanding what he said and done, saying there's nothing to Epstein.
		She's saying there is.
		It should be investigated.
		I stand with Melania Trump and I stand with the truth.
		I stand with the victims of Epstein against the Epstein class.
unidentified		Follow me on the next.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're all all Shones.
		I'm Rebel of the All Shones Show.
		God bless you all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Harrison came back on after this, and I instantly turned off the show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I have no idea what the rest of that show was, but I'm sure it was insightful.
unidentified		I'm sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was really excited for Friday's episode because that little response video felt kind of uninspired.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It felt like he was going through the motions.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On the one hand, it brought up this shit talking about Melania, and that's kind of a decent attempt at redirecting energy, but it also felt empty.
		That video is like a minute and a half long, and it's supposed to be responding to Trump directly calling Alex an idiot who lied about Sandy Hook.
		He said his family knows he's dumb.
		This shit was personal, so this is underwhelming.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't do this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't.
		I guess it's just a measure of how bad his instincts truly have gotten, because to me, this is money.
		I am hearing ka chings.
		I am hearing Donald Trump started a feud with me.
		Yeah.
		Started.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I want to hold back the point that I want to make about that until we're done.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I agree with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that this is not furthering that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, this is not money at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Money is in the feud.
		Money is in, you know, Kendrick and Drake is money.
		You don't like.
		If Kendrick was like, you know what, I'm going to be the bigger man, that's a loss of money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you don't take the high road when there's the opportunity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're a fucking con man opportunist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course, you got to go for the money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so we'll see what he does on all new world April 10th Friday show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's see.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we start off.
		Alex is in the chair, he's in studio.
		Okay.
		Very sad.
		Very sad man.
		And apparently, Trump is being blackmailed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The evidence is overwhelming that Trump is being blackmailed.
		By the Israel lobby.
		And when we saw Melania Trump, I'm going to play her full clip here in a moment, come out yesterday, and it's reported Trump didn't know this was about to happen.
		She said, I'm doing a press conference where I'm going to make a statement.
		And she went out there with that six-minute statement and said, Epstein is real.
		He's an abuser.
		The victims deserve justice.
		Congress needs to hold hearings.
		The cover-up needs to end.
		And then you can just juxtapose that with Trump dozens of times.
		It's a hoax.
		It doesn't exist.
		Nothing happened.
		His FBI director, deputy director on TV saying he acted alone.
		He wasn't a human trafficker.
		When Giseley Maxwell's in prison for that.
		And then here's his wife.
		So Trump said, if Trump said in statements, we're getting them, and on True Social and in person, with his mouth, verbally, that if you think Epstein's real, you're not MAGA.
		Remember that?
		We'll play the clips.
		Well, now, by his yardstick, Melania Trump.
		Is not MAGA.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Got it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		His wife is low IQ.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Finally.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		His wife's a Democrat Party operative.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This'll stick.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		His wife's a stooge.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is kind of like trying to make it personal in a way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like it's not good though.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like it's not compelling in the same way as Trump saying your families know you're fucking dumb.
		Yeah.
		Like that is like that Trump is a drive by.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm rubber in your glue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a drive by.
unidentified		What do you mean?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just he does some damage and then gets out of there.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this is an attempt for Alex to be like, Your wife thinks you're a pedophile.
unidentified		Right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And like, I don't, it just doesn't, it doesn't have the.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, see, aha, by your own words, sir, you have been hoisted upon your own petard because your wife is stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ha ha, I bet you feel stupid now, don't you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		By your logic, your wife is dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then also, like, if his wife is coming out and being like, Hey, I got to get away from him because he.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, this guy's a pedophile and a rapist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What did Roger know?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, come on, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What did you know?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We all knew.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We all knew.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, if you're trying to make.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He said grab him by the pussy on the first go round.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Locker talk.
unidentified		Locker room talk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I think that this is something that doesn't really work well for Alex because, if true, it also hurts Alex.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He didn't do any due diligence in terms of investigating Trump before he decided to.
		Get on board with him if this is true.
		So, like, it's trying to.
		You should use a ranged weapon instead of a bomb vest.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're Alex, right?
		You're not out here, you know, trying to be clever, right?
		If he's calling you low IQ, you fucking lean into it, man.
		I think the obvious move for Alex, and I'm not saying this is the best move, but the obvious move is to talk shit about his dick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the move.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's got a tiny, shriveled little penis.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I go the opposite direction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You were saying that he's being attacked as low IQ.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think the next day, Alex does a fucking spelling bee.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Infowars spelling bee.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, this is the problem with any attempt to prove out low IQ only reaffirms low IQ.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that's the problem.
unidentified		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would be so fun, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be like the painting show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm with you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would like to live in that world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex is suggesting that Trump.
		It was being blackmailed.
		Sure.
		Basically, about Melania having a relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell in the past.
		Yeah.
		Some form of a relationship that there's evidence of existing.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that she did softcore porn.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't think this makes sense.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trump isn't being blackmailed any real Epstein stuff himself, sex wise, but it's the people around him, like Howard Lutnick and others, which is making firm.
		I said, I think it's going to be Lutnick from what we knew and the connections living next door to Epstein and the rest of it.
		And he got caught lying about going to the aisle and all that.
		But I also said, knowing that scene, knowing insiders like Roger Stone, he didn't tell me anything about this, but he said, You saw this recycled 10 years ago, just got recycled again.
		You've heard this a thousand times from me that Melania was a hooker and that she was under Epstein's control at a modeling agency that's the cover for it.
		And then that's how he met.
		Melania, a year later, we've checked that it's not true.
		But that's what they were holding back and using, embarrassing her and embarrassing Trump.
		That's the kind of thing they were holding over his head when he told Marjorie Taylor Greene it'll hurt my friends, it'll hurt people close to me.
		Not just Ludnick, but his wife, because there's emails, and you know there's not just this one, where, oh, so incredible in Palm Beach.
		I want to come back soon.
		You're so amazing.
		You're so beautiful, Ghislaine.
		This is when she's this beautiful supermodel doing, you know, soft porn shoots and whatever, not putting her down for that.
		It's very artsy stuff.
		Her was another beautiful woman laying there.
		I'm not going to lie and say I don't like it.
		And when Trump knew that was about to be released or tried to blackmail him 10 years ago, because I thought people that did it, not the blackmail, but Trump's people, they leaked it to the New York Post, the pictures themselves, to get ahead of it.
		Trump did.
		I got it from the guy that did it.
		You can probably imagine what his name is.
		By the way, Roger Stone's joining us now next hour to get into all of this.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's a little upset with me, but that's okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now we're listening.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So you don't want to miss any of this coming up today.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What promise?
		So this is really dumb because let's assume that everything Alex is saying is correct.
		If the blackmail that the globalists had on Trump was that these nude pictures of Melania were there, then they wouldn't have any blackmail left after Roger leaked the pictures to the Post, which was in 2016.
		There isn't anything left for Trump to be embarrassed by here in Alex's framing.
		And even before the Post published them, these pictures weren't secretly held blackmail material.
		They were published in a French magazine in 1997.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get that Alex has decided to commit to the Melania press conference angle, but there isn't much juice here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's one upside, which is that it's a super personal attack, but Alex can pretend that it's about politics so he doesn't have to feel like he's rolling around in the mud and going tit for tat with Trump being an asshole.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it also seems like a bad idea to have Roger on the show the day after Trump posted that shit.
		Yeah.
		You know he's siding with Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he has to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unless you plan on tearing Roger to shreds, this is a setup for humiliation.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a calling Steve Pieczenik during a hurricane situation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are about to make yourself look even more pathetic.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When Roger convinces you to go crawling back.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Harrison was like, I'm a weenie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex is like, hold my beer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
		Yeah.
		Please don't.
		Please don't.
unidentified		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's not going to do it, is he?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's a weenie.
		He's going to interview Roger.
		Roger's going to show up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you've got to.
		He's not going to fight.
		He's going to lose.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll see what happens.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What a loser.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, when I read you Trump's post, one of the things that stuck out to you was the idea of, like, I could have you at any minute.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't return your calls, you dumbass.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he can and he still can.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he knows it and Alex knows it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it definitely struck a nerve with Alex.
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unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then I get to hear Trump say, oh, I don't call him back, so he's mad at me.
		I could have him on my side if I wanted to, but I'm too busy with national and world affairs.
		Dude, you invited me to Mar-a-Lago and to the White House last year, and I said, oh, yeah, sure, okay.
		Oh, talk to this, okay, great, and didn't make the call.
		Didn't go.
		Because I don't want to sit there in a room with 20 people at dinner and have you pat me on the head and tell everybody how great I am.
		I really don't like that.
		I want victory over the globalist.
		I want to free humanity.
		That is what excites me.
		I want war on tyranny.
		I have boiling blood.
		I'm a warrior.
		This is my mission.
		It's my pedigree.
		It's in my blood.
		Not being a sycophant in a king's court.
		I'm on the front lines, not in some son king's court, seeing who can kiss ass the most and steal the most money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're about to kiss ass the most.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If I wanted that, I'd have had all that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are pathetic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm not Judas Iscariot.
		You want to use a biblical example?
		I'm John the Baptist, heralding the global revolution and awakening.
		That's my, and even the left and the Rockefeller Foundation years ago, it was in Newsweek and stuff, it was big.
		And then even the Rockefeller Foundation, they said, This guy's got to be stopped.
		Like 15 years ago, they go, He's going to, he is like the John the Baptist of the Tea Party, radicalizing them.
		And when I read those reports later, not just in the news, but in, you know, Rockefeller Foundation stuff, it's publicly, and I was just like, Oh, I was so proud of that.
		I was like, Oh my God.
unidentified		You should be.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's how smart they are.
		They're smart.
		So I love all these lightweight, Johnny come lately, nobodies come along and say that I am on a Qatari payroll and need to be put in prison with no evidence.
		Before I was, I was a Russian agent.
		Yeah, I could get on an airplane, go to Russia, and say $50 million a year, and they'd put me in as a propaganda head, and I'd sit there.
		I can't do that.
		Yeah, no, I've had letterhead from Vladimir Putin signed, full authorization, total maximum visa.
		I published it, showed it to everybody.
		I didn't go over there because I didn't want the potential people to say I was doing that.
		And I've had Israel and the Israeli government ask me to go to Israel for 20 years, all the same crap.
		I want to see Israel.
		I want to see Russia.
		Sorry, can't do it because of the way it looks.
		I'll just sit here in the wilderness and do what I do while a bunch of lightweights that don't know anything and don't have the battle scars.
		By the way, I love my scars.
		Both real and spiritual.
		They're memories.
		They're things I did.
		They're victories I had.
		Even my defeats were victories because I didn't give up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel like this clip captures the lukewarmness of Alex's response.
		It's not hot, but you can't really call it cold or even room temperature.
		There's something there, but he's not putting a lot of gas in the engine, so it's really light.
		I'd like to ask two follow up questions to him based on that clip, though.
		The first is whether or not he realizes that he just created a distinction between real and spiritual when talking about his scars.
		Which kind of implies that he believes the spiritual stuff is not real.
		I thought the third dimension was just the playpen, but now apparently cuts you getting your meat body.
unidentified		That's what we call real.
unidentified		Come on, come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The second is whether or not he thinks that there's an importance to the idea that he thinks he could get a job as a propagandist in Russia.
		He doesn't say that he could go over there and be the best chronicler Russia's ever seen or a journalist.
		He specifically says that he could get $50 million to be a propaganda head.
		I'd be interested to know if he thinks that this is a subconscious slip that reveals that he knows what his actual career is.
		And he's not a chronicler.
		Yeah.
		But yeah, it's interesting.
		It's an interesting kind of weak response.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whatever the Rockefeller Foundation or whatever may have said about Alex at the time, that is not about this man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This man has nothing to be afraid of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is no John the Baptist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can, oh, I'm sorry.
		What did you say?
		I literally didn't hear you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And look, I mean, like, say what you want about Judas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people have different ideas about him based on, you know, maybe some Gnostic texts or whatever.
unidentified		Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But what you have to say is he made a choice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, you don't have to say that, but yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe he didn't make it, but a choice was made.
		You know, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		He didn't wait around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know what you mean.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex should take a lesson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he gets a little bit sentimental.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He starts thinking back on his early life and how weirdos tried to lure him to sex parties when he was 13.
unidentified		Wild.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Told you, folks, Satanists run it all.
		I told you those stories on air for 30 plus years.
		Growing up in the richest county in Texas at the time and trying to get recruited by a rich Satanist.
		Eyes wide shut, folks.
		Part of my education.
		I've been the Tom Cruise character, but not when I was some Harvard doctor.
		When I was 13, 14, 15.
		But I never partook of it.
		Literally, repeatedly left.
		And I just was like, when I was younger, I was like, God, why is this happening to me?
		Well, it's part of your education, son.
		Part of your education.
		And now I've been offered up on the mountain the money and the power to sell America out.
		You know what I told him?
		Piss up a rope.
		Good Lord.
		Piss up a rope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that Alex's stories can't really be taken seriously, but what he's describing here is horrible.
		And I think it's really dark that he thinks God would have this response to him.
		If this were really happening, then Alex was being exposed to very serious abuse.
		And no matter how strong and mature he imagines he was at 13, Repeatedly having adults try to lure you to eyes wide shut parties would be deeply traumatic.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no other word for that than child abuse, and Alex believes that his God would condone him being subjected to that because it was part of his education.
		I know that he doesn't really understand the implications of what he's saying, so I don't want to sit here and pretend that Alex is knowingly making the argument that maybe abusers are teachers of divine lessons, but that's kind of accidentally what he's saying when he self mythologizes this way.
		It's fucked up, the implications of what he's saying.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You kind of should support the people who are doing the eyes wide shut parties, luring children to them because it's part of their education to fight the devil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's really messed up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the thing about movies is that movies don't have to continually struggle with their plot holes or with the problems they're in.
		They can just go to the next scene.
		In real life, however, you can't base your life on movies.
		You can't say, oh, this is an objectively good thing because I saw it in a movie and it worked out.
		That's not how it should be.
		No, that's horrible.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think the mentality and the mindset that God is cool with this or wants this to happen is dangerous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't begin to describe how disappointed I am with this.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is real.
		I admit to feeling it a little bit myself.
		Once I heard those words, I was like, ooh, maybe some good.
		You know, if I was an Alex Jones former fan or an Infowars guy and I saw that, I would be like, tuning in right away.
		Let's see what this man, finally, this guy's going to come back to life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then I see this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's bad timing that I think he went to go dry out for a week and a half in rehab or whatever because if he was drunk, this would be good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is drinking time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Except maybe he would be in this kind of like sentimental mood if he got drunk.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that this next clip is a really, really huge bummer.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But see, I knew stuff like this was evil.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'd still believe the propaganda and lies that abortion was legal and was just a blob of tissue that wasn't really a kid if he caught it the first six weeks.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So there I was saying, No, I'm not going to be part of your sex orgy, which I wasn't connecting with it.
		It was pedophilic because I was like 13, 14, 15, but technically it was.
		But when it came to killing my own kids, I was like, yeah, it's all right, 300 bucks.
		And I never really pressured the girls.
		They were always like, I'm pregnant.
		And there was one girl, didn't tell me she was pregnant.
		And all of a sudden, her parents, she was a couple years older than me, she was like 16, I was like 14.
		She's like, oh, come into town, see my family here in Dallas.
		She lived there with her parents, they had other family.
		And she had an older sister with kids and stuff.
		You like kids?
		You like baby strollers?
		You want to take care of your kids?
		I'm like, no, not yet.
		And they're like, see?
		Looked at her.
		And I know what's going on, and she had the abortion and got mad at me.
		You know, that's the thing.
		I didn't know about that until she had the abortion.
		Then they always hate you after they have it.
		I had this incredible girlfriend when I was in college, and I was celibate.
		Well, it's college like a year.
		I was celibate for about a year and a half when God really hit me and said, Stop being part of this when I was 18.
		But then I got this other girlfriend, and I was wearing condoms and stuff, but somehow it broke.
		Getting graphic here, which is just biology.
		And she was just ultra gorgeous, Eastern European.
		And I saw her, and she goes, I can't see anymore.
		I just am too depressed.
		I'm too upset.
		And then she said, Yeah, you got me pregnant.
		I had an abortion.
		And I was just like, I'm so sorry.
		You should have told me we'd have got married.
unidentified		Yeah, right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And she was like, Going to college, was top of her class to be a doctor, all this other stuff.
		Probably listening right now.
		But, and I was like, Okay, that is it.
		I'm going back to no dating for a while.
		And then that's how I got on the air and all the stuff I did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So God didn't tell Alex to stop having abortions when he was 18.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's been clear that he stopped because his dad threatened to kick him out of the house and told him to stop killing his grandkids.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bigger picture, this is fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For one thing, it's gross.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But beyond that, it feels voyeuristic to listen to that clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When Alex talks about this Eastern European woman who he loved, who he would have married and had kids with if she'd told him that she got pregnant, and he says that she's probably listening now, it feels like he needs to believe that she's listening.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't hear a guy who's apologetic about the abortions because of an actual opposition to abortion.
		I hear a guy who blames abortion for ruining potentially better lives that he didn't get to live.
		He spent 30 years on air yelling about nothing, and he's got two bad marriages to show for it.
		But he only went down this road to begin with because he didn't start a family with these women.
		It's very telling that the two stories that he tells specifically involve abortions that he didn't have any input into, where he's trying to convey that he would have raised these children with these women if he'd had the chance.
		The way he's telling this story, it seems very clear to me that he associates the pain of these abortions with losing the love of these women.
		He's not telling a pained story about killing kids.
		The pathos comes from how these relationships with hotties ended prematurely because they got abortions and got mad at him.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think this gives a nice window into how Trump's post has made Alex feel because that shit is sadder than any meltdown that he's capable of having.
		He's thinking about how he could have settled down with this gal that he got pregnant in junior college and then maybe, maybe, you know, maybe I wouldn't be on the air.
		Maybe I'd, uh, Be an electrician.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And have this gorgeous Eastern European woman, which is the way I constantly describe Melania.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Huh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's no way to describe it other than, like, listen, once you lose your fastball, you got to go.
		You're not a knuckleballer.
		You're not going to find some junk.
		You've lost it.
		You got to go.
		Right.
		This is unlistenable.
		This is horrifying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it feels gross to listen to it.
		It's not even that it's unlistenable.
		He's talking about.
		Condoms and lost love.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everything about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dude, you're fighting the devil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And obviously, these are like the betrayal and loss of the women is the same as the betrayal and loss of Trump.
		How does he not even see the very clear, like, this is why my mind is going here?
		I'm being dumped again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that Trump said that Tucker should see a psychiatrist, but Alex should see at least a psychologist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boy, he should see a team.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, um, I think that when you're going to have Roger Stone on the day after Trump posts something like that, you can't be bringing this energy in.
		No.
		You need to be coming in with momentum and steam.
		And unfortunately, he's just not.
		And so I feel like he gives up while introducing Roger.
unidentified		Wow.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, my old friend Roger Stone joins us, but really older friends with President Trump, 51 years.
		He knows the inside baseball.
		And I know he's upset with me about the 25th Amendment comment.
		I was trying to get Trump's attention, but we know he was getting bad advice about the war.
		You have all the Israel lobby and others calling for nuclear war.
		We have new clips of it, Israeli officials.
		And that statement about destroy a civilization forever, never to return.
		I'm glad Trump came off of that and said no nuclear weapons.
		And I really want this to succeed.
		I want Trump to succeed.
		And now that he's come out and attacked me, obviously it becomes a tit for tat.
		I want to think about the Democrats, the midterms, how we salvage this.
		But we have Mark Levin and others, so I know you love, Roger, that's a joke.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is apologizing to Roger and rationalizing in his introduction here.
		Roger's apparently mad about the 25th Amendment comments, and before they even start the interview, Alex is abandoning that by saying that he just wanted to get Trump's attention because the nuclear war stuff was bad.
		But that doesn't explain why he brought it up again in his report from the car that Harrison played.
		This is nonsense.
		He's trying to pacify and appease Roger.
		He's lost the argument before they say word one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's.
		I don't even know how to describe how sad this is.
		This is.
		I mean, honestly, this is the first time truly where I feel like.
		Like, oh, man, this whole world has failed this poor boy.
		That's what I feel like.
		His birth.
		Was a failure.
		His mom failed him.
		His dad failed him.
		His entire life, everyone around him has fucking allowed this behavior to continue.
		And he's finally feeling the actual effects of it.
		And he's so unprepared.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it doesn't have to be like that.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The answer to this is the most obvious answer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		1776?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pure rage.
unidentified		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Pure, unending, unfiring rage.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ironically, the.
		Only thing he's good at exactly, he should threaten to eat Trump.
		This is your moment, yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is what you have been training for your entire life.
		Every yell, every you are my enemy, this is it.
		The president is your enemy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are a battle axe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh my god, step up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, um, Alex tries to explain to Roger, like, I don't want to just take the bait, you know, like, what do we do?
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dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think if you listen carefully to what Roger is saying, how he's saying it, I believe that there's a second conversation that's happening subtly behind the surface.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And so I just wanted to get your take on all of this and tell your good friends with Tucker and I as well.
		We've hung out many times at dinner together with Tucker.
		How we somehow extricate out of this and somehow create kind of at least a truce or some kind of diplomacy.
		I was talking to Benny Johnson this morning.
		He's taking his.
		Four year old on birthday party today.
		So he's getting off early.
		He's going to come on next week.
		He's trying to be an intermediary here, but also saying Mark Levin and Netanyahu should be banned from the White House because they confirmed lied to Trump.
		Weeks and weeks ago, I heard Susie Wiles was trying to stop the war, and that's down, been confirmed.
		So good on her.
		So it's just a really amazing time.
		I mean, I could build this up forever.
		There's so many places to go, so many things to do, but I'm really not trying to take the bait and attack Trump just because I don't want to make it all about that.
		But it's kind of hard to do, too, when he's.
		The very law firms that sued him, Paul Weiss and others, are the ones that sued me, and they did it because I supported Trump.
		And then now he even uses their tactics against me.
		I wonder if Mark Levin wrote this horrible screen.
		So that's a lot to say.
		You can go anywhere you want.
		I talked to you via text message yesterday.
		We haven't really scripted what we're going to get into.
		I know you're a little bit upset with me as well.
		So let me have it if you need to.
		But Roger Stone, thanks for being here.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Well, Alex, I'm delighted to be here.
		And, uh, You did promise me if I came on today, you'd let me talk.
		People need to know our history.
		We've been friends for a very long time.
		You and I met at the 50th anniversary of JFK's assassination down on Dealey Plaza.
		Sometime after that, you read my book, told me how much you enjoyed it and how informative it was.
		My book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
		As a Texan, you knew a lot of this history.
		Then, as you know, I joined the InfoWars, where Owen Schreier and I hosted the war room.
		until the name of that show was hijacked by Jeffrey Epstein accomplice and enabler Steve Bannon.
		I also credit you, frankly, and it's in my book, Making the President 2016, because there's a lot of pressure on you to be for Ted Cruz as a fellow Texan.
		But after you met Donald Trump, and by the way, he called you when you got married, you may remember, you were going through TSA, but you took the call.
		I credit that with the fact that when the establishment Republicans, We're laughing at Donald Trump.
		You are exposing Trump and his policies to the millions of people in your audience.
		So I think it is unfair to say you had nothing to do with his rise.
		You were with him in 2016.
		You were with him in 2020.
		You were with him in 2024.
		And God knows you have paid a price for it, as have I, as has General Flynn, as has the January 6ers.
		And I think you played a crucial role in the exposure of Hillary Clinton.
		Uh, this is uh, uh, and there are both, there have been times when both of us have had some criticism.
		I love the man, I would not be alive for him today, but for him.
		I, and I candidly admit that because he knew that I was being squeezed not because I did something wrong, but they destroyed my life.
		They, I lost my home, my car, my savings, my insurance, my ability to travel freely without being threatened in the streets.
		Uh, all because I wouldn't testify falsely against Donald Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I want to translate this conversation a little bit.
		Alex is telling Roger that he's been humiliated by Trump and he's asking Roger's permission to stop supporting Trump or at least get a truce going.
		Alex wants to separate his identity from Trump and Roger's response is to only deepen Alex's connection with Trump and stress how important Alex was in Trump's rise.
		In effect, Roger is, you know, kind of trying to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In for a penny, in for a pound, buddy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's stuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's telling him he's pot committed, but at the same time being like, and you're great.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, he's playing to his ego like Pieczenik used to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's doing it right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I believe that Roger is trying to subtly explain to Alex why he got a pardon and Alex got shit on in a tweet.
		Trump knows that Roger knows shit that he's not telling anyone.
		Roger had every opportunity to save himself by testifying honestly about Trump and he kept his mouth shut, which proved his ultimate loyalty.
		Roger and Trump know life ruining stuff about each other, and that bond was tested through the court system, where Roger showed Trump that even if they fight, he's not going to spill the beans, so Trump gave him a get out of jail free card.
		On the other hand, Alex doesn't know anything about Trump or Roger that matters.
		He doesn't know anything he could use against them that doesn't directly implicate himself, so Trump doesn't care about him.
		Alex doesn't exist for Trump in a transactional sense, whereas Roger does.
		To explain what I mean, the dirt that Roger and Trump have on each other are stories of separate crimes they committed.
		Roger could talk about something he knows Trump did that has nothing to do with Roger, and vice versa.
		Alex knows some stuff about Roger, but it's the kind of dirt where they committed a crime together.
		Alex can't really burn Roger without self destructing, and they both know it.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they're sitting here in this weird space where he's like, Come on, man.
		I don't want to do this anymore.
		I look like an idiot.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're in, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got a leash around you.
unidentified		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a bookie.
		This is a bookie.
		That's what's happening.
		You're in for 20 grand, buddy.
		Listen, you owe me that money.
		I'm going to get that money.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I'm going to tell you this you're one of my favorite guys.
		You are one of my favorite guys.
		So I'm going to do this one solid for you.
		I'm going to give you a pick.
		We're not even going to call it double or nothing.
		I'm just going to give you a pick.
		You pick anything you want.
		I'll give you, let's say, three to one odds.
unidentified		So, what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At the end of this, either you go home with 60K or, you know, we have another talk.
unidentified		How about that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How about that, Trump?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's essentially like, let's make peace with where you are.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't have any cards here.
unidentified		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I can break your knees whenever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So, good times.
		I think one of the things that no one could really dispute too much is that Alex's take.
		On the whole, we're going to wipe out your civilization tonight.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That tweet was bad.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex's take on that was correct.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's Roger got to say?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I like to hear this.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		But Alex, let's go through the war now because that's important, you see.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Everybody was certain that he would be goaded into World War III the Bushes, the Cheneys, the Laura Loomers, trying to goad him into World War III.
unidentified		Okay.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		He didn't do that, did he?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm listening.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		He scared the crap out of them, is what he did.
		And they folded.
		He didn't fold, they folded.
		They're the ones who sent us a new peace proposal.
		That's called peace through strength.
		Those are the policies of Eisenhower, Reagan, and Donald Trump.
		Those are not the policies of the Bushes and the Cheneys and the Obama's and the Clintons.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying the total destruction of civilization thing was basically just rhetoric.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Well, but it's irresponsible.
		And I said this at the time, and I thought it was pretty kind.
		It was irresponsible rhetoric.
		The idea that we would remove this president, given this incredible record.
		And the important thing is, by the way, I'm an anti interventionist just like you.
		Before Donald Trump, the last vote I cast in the Republican presidential primary was for Ron Paul in the Florida primary.
		I don't like war.
		I don't like endless foreign war, but that's not what we have.
		What we have here is peace through strength.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So when Alex asked, like, Do you think that was irresponsible rhetoric?
		He was talking about Trump's tweet.
		Yep.
		But Roger's responding by saying that what Alex said was irresponsible.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That tells you a lot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I could not be happier.
		Here's what I love about Roger, right?
		I love the purity of it.
		There is never going to be a question.
		You don't understand this.
		You don't understand me.
		You have questions.
		You have things like, I suspect this.
		Nothing you say will ever affect me.
		My loyalty is.
		Is so rock solid, I can make up jujitsu for anything you have to say.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think even in 2015, Alex should have had every reason to understand that, like, unless I'm a real bad dude who's willing to do real bad stuff and really wallow in it, I should never talk to Roger Stone.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is going to be a situation where I'm in over my head immediately and he's always going to have the upper hand because he is a bad dude.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is, he is, he's a pig.
		He eats shit with a smile.
		Oh, do you think it's wrong to do this?
		And nom, Guess what?
		I love it.
		I love it.
		Oh, oh, you don't want everybody to die.
		I don't care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'm an anti interventionist.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love Ron Paul.
		So Alex is like, all right, fine.
		That post that Trump made where he said that my family knows that I'm stupid, that's got to be bad, right?
unidentified		Come on.
unidentified		It has to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Give me that.
unidentified		It has to be.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't you agree?
		Just be honest.
		This was not healthy for Trump to come out and attack everybody.
		Obviously, it only makes me bigger.
		It's almost a gift, but I don't want that.
		I need him to succeed.
		This is very destructive of the midterms to attack Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, and some of the most other popular people saying we're low IQ idiots while he is literally has Mark Levin sitting in his lap and Laura Loomer, you know, sitting on his shoulder like a demonic parrot.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		She wishes.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		First of all, if you read my book Stone's Rules with a great introduction by Tucker Carlson, you know the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.
unidentified		Nice.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex, yes, it just probably makes your brand bigger, but you need to get back on the Trump train fully.
		We could have Kamala Harris if you think that would have been preferable.
		I personally agree.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Roger, I get all of that.
		My point is the war is extremely unpopular and also the inflation is exploding, just like all the economists said.
		And you know, we had a narrow window.
		His economic plan was great.
		If we have inflation, which oil and gas and fertilizer is the base of, then that derails his plan.
		That's why Larry Fink's so happy.
		Larry Fink wants regime change.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		I think we recognize that, but I think this will be over faster than people think it will be, number one.
unidentified		Better be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is sad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, man, sometimes the psychodrama whenever Alex is just fucking out of his depth is crazy that he doesn't understand the purity of Roger Stone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think.
		I, you know, I'm going out on a limb here a little bit.
		I think now he kind of does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, this conversation should do something for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There are a couple moments in this conversation that feel like Alex is like, I can't talk about things that I know about you.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't say this thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that you'll fuck me if I do.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there's a feeling of like the veil lifted or whatever, whenever it was like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he's treating Roger like a straight up person anymore.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I think he's seeing, I think he's afraid of him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, you should be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm afraid of Roger Stone.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I would be less afraid of him if he didn't know I was coming.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump pissed in Alex's face the night before, after Alex pretended to have a miracle happen on air about supporting Trump.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now Roger's on the next day telling him, get back on the Trump drill.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are weak.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are small.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Putting up with this is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nothing you do matters to me.
unidentified		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh, oh, does it sound bad?
		Will it ruin the midterms?
		No.
		He can do whatever the fuck he wants, and you'll say it's good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You better believe it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, just as kind of like a last Hail Mary.
unidentified		Sure.
		All right.
		Look.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I hate Mark Levin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't we all?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's to blame for everything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's the one who's doing all this stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wrote the tweet that Trump put out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Blame it on somebody else.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sir Roger, you hate Mark Levin, don't you?
unidentified		Gotta.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mark Levin, when I. Michael Savage, on a few days ago, he reminded me.
		I remember the time Mark Levin supported Michael Savage being banned from the UK because he criticized Muslims.
		He supported you being put in jail.
		He was a never-Trumper again.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		No, that's not fair.
		Mark Levin criticized me.
		He accused me of using Nixonian tactics on behalf of Donald Trump.
		He was upset with me.
		I had to remind him: if there was no Nixon, there would be no Israel today.
		Israel would not exist today but for Richard M. Nixon saving them in the Amkeeper war.
		But I will say this.
		When I was being victimized, he stood as a lawyer and he's a very smart guy.
		Don't think Mark Levin is a dumb guy just because we disagree with him.
		He stood very tall against the weaponization against me and not the outrageousness against me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I believe because it was your own case, but from my memory, he supported the censorship in general.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		He supported Ted Cruz and then he ultimately came over despite his reservations about me being a Nixonite.
		And I, by the way, I don't forget people who stood with me.
		So when one of the crunch was really there, despite the fact that I had many, many, many disagreements with him, he did stand tall for me when I was fighting for my life.
		And I don't forget that.
		But Alex, so did you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So did you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, you should really recognize by me saying this that I like him more than you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He stood tall.
		You were weak.
		You were weak.
		He stood tall.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Please, Roger, help me demonize the enemy that I need to scape.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Goat for this stuff.
unidentified		No, he's a good man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You do not understand.
		You eat the shit that we give you and you smile about it.
		Now show me a smile, honey.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We don't really have much use for you anymore.
unidentified		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We can toss you at any moment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they finish up their interview.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And immediately Alex is like, man, everyone's going to say that I just fucking glazed Trump.
roger stone ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Great to be with you, Alex.
		Undefeated and still the champion.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, brother.
		I know what the headlines will be by the influencers and talk show hosts that are just totally against Trump.
		It'll be Jones, one day after being savaged by Trump, glazes Trump.
		No, I'm trying to be balanced here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This episode isn't really Alex glazing Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would actually be a little less embarrassing.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is more like Alex impotently jangling around the chains attached to his arms and legs in a way that it's clearly him not sincerely trying to escape.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it only reveals how trapped he is.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's given up on even the idea of escape.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why even bother to pretend?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's too much effort.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everyone knows who Trump is now, and everyone knows who Alex Jones is.
		He's the guy who blows up and yells at people.
		Brian Stelter talked about him a little bit, so Alex screamed about him for years and drunkenly prank called him when he was hanging out with Tucker.
unidentified		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's petty and he loves to fight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no reason that he's not burning Trump, and there's no reason he should be letting Roger pull this shit, except if he knows he has to.
Alex Glazing Trump Impotently 00:12:53
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's something that they know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like maybe he told Roger something about how the business is.
unidentified		Something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Set up.
		Or something.
		Something.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because there's just too much money.
		There's just too much money in the fight.
		So if you're deliberately choosing not all that money, there must be something else going on.
		And as much as it would be lovely to believe in some sort of ideology, I'm afraid I don't subscribe to them having any beliefs whatsoever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have one possible theory that, like I said, we'll get to at the end of this episode that could explain.
		Some of this, but I don't think it's actually what's going on in the heart or mind.
		But I do think that as the episode goes on, Alex starts to feel like.
		I need to explain, or I need to come up with an excuse at least for why I didn't punch Roger.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But it's good that Roger is staying close to the president because he has a lot of influence to keep Tulsi in there and other people, believe me.
		And I get so much from Roger and others.
		Roger's just one of five people I've got very close to the president, talk to him, who are very concerned and give me a lot of intel that you hear about here on the show.
		So Roger is a very good agent for America and for freedom, and we appreciate him.
		And so it's good to have a Trump acolyte on.
		To be able to hear that, and I'm not obviously going to crap hold up with the president while we're having that discussion.
		I want Trump to pull out of this and succeed, but that's not on the Trump train, off the Trump train.
		That's sit back, just real politic.
		What can we still get that's good out of this guy?
		But it doesn't look good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'm the chronicler.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is ridiculous.
unidentified		Wolf.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Kill me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Kill me before anything like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, look, I was talking to Roger, and of course, I'm not going to be mean to the president during that.
unidentified		He's friends.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on, man.
		Jordan, your options are to live as a worm beneath the Boot of Roger fucking Stone or to just die.
		I'm going with number two, buddy.
		Jesus Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just a real bummer where Alex plays a video that his son made about how great he is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
		No, no, we cannot do that.
		Not after this.
		Not after this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's the equivalent of like, hey, my son made a macaroni picture of me as Superman.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't need a poignant memory while you fucking demonstrate your impotence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's very sad.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to skip ahead to where Alex.
		He's done a little bit more of the show.
		And then he realizes, I got to talk about some stuff.
		I got to do it.
unidentified		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, most people would imagine today, if you tune into my show, with Trump viciously attacking me yesterday with a bunch of baseless garbage, that I would just be spending all day attacking him and just creating all the controversial statements I could to just stay in the news.
		I don't care about getting in the news over some stupid quibble.
		Again, I have opened up my Google news alerts when your name's mentioned, and there's been 36,000 articles in one day about me.
		Remember all that?
		Again, APs and individual tweets count as articles.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think individual tweets count as articles.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It'll say, you know, 25,000.
		Just one AP article will be that.
		It's like every day 10,000, 20,000, 18,000.
		Some days, 36,000.
		Every nightly news show.
		Remember, I'm the devil.
		I'm hurting families of dead kids.
		All that garbage.
		There are 300 plus million with.
		Off of charity saying I was victimizing the parents, did none of it.
		No one pissed on their graves, no one came to their houses, no one did anything.
		It was just all made up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex just defamed the families again, saying that all the things they said about him were made up.
		I'm not sure if anyone can prove that someone peed on a grave, but those parents also didn't claim that anyone did.
		They claimed that someone contacted them and said that he had peed on their kid's grave, and I'm sure that they can prove that.
		The bigger problem is that there are multiple parents who can demonstrably prove that people showed up to their house and stalked them, specifically Wolfgang Halbig, who Alex was promoting.
		And fundraising for on his show.
		Like, this is, if there was a functional system of, like, law, he should go to jail for that.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's directly doing the exact same thing that he's been bankrupted for.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but, you know, it was really nice to hear, it was really nice to read so many articles at the time where Alex admitted finally that he had wronged the parents.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It felt good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It felt good to read so many articles.
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex, he thinks like, I don't need to attack back.
		I'm cool.
		I'm fine.
unidentified		Out of your mind.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's not the issue that he even attacked me.
		That's a side issue.
		It's that he is literally pushing Democrat Party talking points via Mark Levin.
		And we know it's Mark Levin because it's word for word.
		I mean, I knew it when I saw it yesterday.
		But I'm not going to go ape and just start attacking Trump here.
		Now, I don't think having Roger on saying nice things about him is going to make him be nice to me.
		I'm like, oh, please don't hurt me.
		For me personally, it's good to break away from Trump.
		Because he's never helped me any of that, but because he was better for the country than Democrats, I just took it.
		But just like I didn't care about all the attacks, I don't care about CNN playing clips of me and MSNBC and all.
		What does that do?
		Nothing.
		They have tiny audiences.
		I hate being associated with them, but I have to tell the truth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I don't know if it's just because he said ape there, but I feel like he's been domesticated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good way of putting it.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's been tamed in some way that, like, this is not, this doesn't make sense.
unidentified		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're holding on to something that, Is meaningless in the face of meaningful attacks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is fucked up.
		This is fucked up.
		It is fucked up because I'm watching a man who has been kept in a cage for 10 years have the cage opened and have the guy say, Leave.
		I want you gone.
		Get out of this cage.
		And he closes the cage door while he's still inside it.
		It is depressing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It makes you think of like, I don't know if this is true, but it's something I've heard.
		So I didn't fact check this.
		I don't know if it's accurate.
unidentified		Okay, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But people tell you that if you chain an elephant up to a tree, it doesn't know that it can break the tree and just walk off.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It just feels like it's chained to this tree and will stay there.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what Alex feels like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Feels very much like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He could break this tree, but there must be something else.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a psychological impediment or something that he knows Roger knows.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's just sad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a bummer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has a shock collar.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I genuinely, genuinely, I honestly want to help him right now.
unidentified		I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		I do.
		I want to be like, fucking, listen, I can yell.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Isn't this fascinating the way that our positions have even reversed?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I used to want to help him, and then you said fuck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's the problem.
		Here's the problem.
		I don't like a man who's lost his ability to yell.
		That's a personal thing for me.
		I just, I would like to see him lose, I would like to see him fail.
		But I want to see him lose in a fight, you know?
unidentified		Not like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, you were the three time state yelling champion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have yelled.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I dreamed of one day finding a box of money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have yelled many a person down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex was working out that morning, really getting some curls in.
unidentified		Good call.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, really.
		And he decided, I'm burning Trump.
		Fuck him.
unidentified		Good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This morning, I had made the decision while I was lifting weights to get blood pumping your branch so you're working well.
		And hit the weights, do some aerobic moves.
		That's the workout we're doing this morning.
		I was pouring sweat, nice 80 minute workout.
		And I said, I'm just going to score Churth Trump to get him back on track.
		Only way to do it is to go after him viciously.
		Because, I mean, look, the Democrats are infinitely more corrupt than him.
		He wasn't really corrupt the first term.
		The insider trading now, all the kids of the cabinet officials, it is just robbery town.
		And I'm like, am I going to just sit here and wait for Todd Blanchard to indict me for something?
		Am I going to just sit here and wait for Trump to attack me?
		But I'm like, well, I need him to get back on track.
		I need him to turn things around.
		But I'm also sitting here like, I'm not your average bear.
		Like, I know a lot.
		And I know right where to hit everything.
		And you're like, well, you have a responsibility to do that.
		Yeah, but it's like paltry compared to the big picture.
		And I mentioned a lot of it.
		But I don't want to overthink it.
		But I'm just telling Trump something right now.
		The globalists sued my family who wasn't even involved with me and bankrupted them.
		I could take the word of God.
		I've been through a lot of stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They think you're stupid.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And if I see any inkling with Mark Levine and everybody talking about me being deplatformed again, And you're calling for everybody's arrest.
		If I see any of that, and it's not like I'm saying this so they leave me alone, I'm on the verge of it, but there's so much, the Democrats are so much worse that I don't want to make my full time show a war against Trump.
		But if you, here's the thing you've already shed all over me, and if you try to rub it in, I just, at that point, I don't care anymore.
		So if you think I've been coming after you, if you think that I'm trying to get clicks by attacking you so the Democrats don't buy anything from me and don't like, And you want to put me in jail.
		If you think I've been on your ass, say one more thing.
		One more thing.
unidentified		Say one more thing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Send him this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Say five or 6,000 more things.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When I've gone through hell backing your ass because you were the lesser of two evils, then I'm going to show you how the cow ate the cabbage.
		Do one more thing.
		You should be kissing my ass.
		But instead, you shit all over me and rub it in.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I think that after talking to Roger, Alex knew and knows he's not going anywhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that Trump doesn't give a shit about what he says.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not even a little bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that there's a little bit of freedom with that because I think that probably when they were talking, Roger's like, Trump isn't mad at you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't care.
unidentified		You don't care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's attacking you as a.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just he was just he just does, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I we don't even know why, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no why, there's just he did it's because most people back down to stuff like this, yeah.
		You know, like it works, like Alex, it works like 90% of the time or whatever.
		So it's a good strategy, just be a bully, just be a bully.
		So I have to assume that Alex understood that and was like, well, okay, so if I say some Trump's not even gonna hear it, he's not gonna care, whatever.
		I can save some face and he's not gonna respond, right.
		So, I can be like, I'm taking the high road, but you motherfucker, you say one more thing about my family, I will fucking work you.
unidentified		One more thing.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that Jesus Christ.
		This is his win win because he gets to be like, all right, fuck you.
		You shit in my face.
		Don't rub it in.
		All this.
		I care about the principles and saving America.
		I'm not in this petty fight.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He gets to do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then he also gets to try and taunt Trump to say something else to keep the cycle going.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And I think that he knows that either way, it's the best way out of the situation.
		Because Trump and Roger don't care.
		He can't hurt them.
		Yeah.
		And if Trump says nothing, pretending like I told him, you say one more fucking thing.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If it's radio silence for another 10 years and it doesn't get mentioned by Trump, he can act like this scolding really worked.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if Trump does say one more thing, Then Alex is free to then do the blow up that we all want.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He can go get that bottle of Tito's and make it work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He won't because this is his one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he'll say just one more thing that time.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The thing about Samson, and this is what's very important about Samson, right?
		He got fucked.
		He lost.
		He realized he lost.
Realized Lost To Silence 00:03:25
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then he was like, I got to take this whole thing down.
		He didn't go, hey, if you guys cut off my hair one more time.
		I am going to write a very sternly worded letter.
		No, he grabbed the whole fucking place and he brought it down around his ears.
		Because you can't fuck with me like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's why we still tell tales of that and not people who are Alex.
		So we have one last clip, and it's just him begging Trump to say something.
		Just say it to my face.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
		Say one more thing about me.
		Go ahead and attack me one more time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hold me back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hold me back.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you'll find out.
		Because I know where to hit you.
		Leave me alone.
		I don't want to be at your Mar-Lago, your tuxedos, a bunch of parrots posing.
		I'm not looking for government contracts.
		I've never asked for anything.
		Ed Martin contacted me and said incredible evidence of the government attacking you.
		They had all the proof, the DOJ funding the lawsuits, raiding it all, and he's a great guy.
		And then Todd Blanche kills it and then calls me a kook and says I don't deserve it.
		To have my rights defended.
		And I'm in civil rights lawsuits.
		You know, that's fine.
		I didn't blame Trump.
		I just said, okay, I'll take it.
		But I will not take any more of your crap.
unidentified		Oh.
unidentified		Did you take too much?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Your betrayals, your narcissism, the open, kleptocratic insider trading that is just wholesaling your administration.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've mentioned it, but said, yeah, it's just par for the course now.
unidentified		But.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm not looking for a fight, but if you want one, you came to the right place.
		So I'm like a rattlesnake.
		They're not really aggressive snakes.
		Water moccasins come after you and bite you.
		Cobra's come after you.
		I'm like rattlesnakes trying to get away.
		I'm like, hey, leave me alone.
		Hey, please don't step on me.
		God, that really hurts.
		Please stop.
		Oh, your daddy's over here.
		Let me step on your mommy.
		Let me step on your kids.
		And I'm just like, all right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They think you're stupid.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm like Darth Vader looking at Bert Palpatine, looking like Skywalker.
		I'm like, all right.
		I'm going to politically throw you down the reactor shaft in two seconds.
		And just, hey, does Alex Jones bluff?
		No, I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He bluffs.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You think I'm intimidated by you, Trump, the president of the United States?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He says, intimidated.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Intimidated by your hit teams, all the rest of it.
		Whatever, man, you got God to deal with.
		I want to focus on the midterms of the Democrats.
		I want to promote what you're doing.
		And I want to be left alone.
		But if you let Laura Loomer and the Israeli operatives sit there and chew on me, Like, I'm some chew toy, I'm done.
		Because you're an idiot.
		Two inches.
		Two inches.
		You think I've been attacking you for years?
		Buddy, I've been trying to defend you for years.
		So, I'm going to tell you one more time.
		Do not cross that line.
		Leave me alone.
		You ought to kiss me.
unidentified		Oh, oh, oh.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jones would be on my side if I talked to him.
		I haven't tried to talk to you.
		I don't even return your phone calls, Trump.
Facebook Invites And Cues 00:03:19
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know that.
		I didn't take your invites.
		I don't want to be around what you're involved in, buddy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that during that segment, Alex definitely told them music cues.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it starts with No More Mr. Nice Guy.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And goes out with So Be It, Friends No More.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is definitely on purpose choices.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I had to get this off my chest and I wanted to be a little dramatic about it.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Which I applaud.
		Any kind of preparation is nice.
unidentified		It is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's better than, well, most of what he did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, because we're recording this on Saturday, I don't know what Alex's Saturday show is.
		Is or if he even did one or what, but there's two ways that I think that this could be taken.
		Okay, one is he's desperately begging Trump to say something about him again so they can get the feud going and sell the pay per view.
		Maybe you know, like pro wrestling type hype, sure, it's not good if you give it away on free television.
		Yep, you know, like you have to build to the big match, yeah, and so maybe there's a part of it that is that, and that's what he's trying to do, but the other part is kind of just.
		I think the other possibility is he's trying to save face because he knows that Roger and Trump don't care.
		Yep.
		And this will be about it for him talking about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm pretty sure I've talked about it before on the show, but the Facebook lady who worked for Facebook for 20 years and I read her dumb book and like 15 different times she's like, and that's when I knew I had to quit.
		And then she got fired and that's why she wrote the book.
		She would have stayed there.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She would have stayed there forever.
		It doesn't matter.
		They could do whatever.
		They want to her.
		And then when they threw her aside, they didn't care.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They didn't care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then the best thing you can do is try and create some kind of heroics out of decisions you could have made, didn't make, should have made.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of them, a lot of the times, if you can, you pretend you did make them.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex will probably be like, Yeah, I couldn't go along with the Epstein stuff, just like Marjorie Taylor Greed.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's important to, before you write a memoir, think about am I the person who did stuff or am I the person who should have done stuff and then got fired?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then, if you're the latter, don't write it.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I think that, you know, we come to the end of this little ride.
		And what a day.
		What a 24 hour period.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This was a roller coaster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He had a miracle on air.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dark Waters started singing.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They had a battle axe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump shit in his face.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then he and Harrison had the weaniest responses to it that you could imagine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The hype that you gave me, right?
		Delivered, first off.
		But second, delivered in an unexpected way.
		I've gone everywhere emotionally.
		I have gone all across this whole gamut in a way that I haven't in quite a while.
		It's been very easily unpredictable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that it peaked a little early, you know, in terms of like the things that are delights.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It ends kind of depressingly, and that kind of doesn't feel great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, it's supposed to end like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This doesn't have a happy ending.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is more tragedy than.
unidentified		Yeah.
Often Boring Happy Ending 00:00:56
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're not watching the.
		Meteoric phoenix appears from the ashes of Alex.
		We are watching a phoenix get shit on until it dies.
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I don't know.
		We'll see what happens on Saturday.
		But I think it's either going to be fucking amazing or boring as hell.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be so boring.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's one of the two.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And history has shown me that it's often more boring.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But who knows?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Get him a bottle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Somebody get him some wild turkey and let's go.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's have a good time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we'll see what happens.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But until we find out, we have a website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, we do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll be back.
		But until then, I'm Neo.
		I'm Leo.
		I'm Medizix Clark.
		I am the mysterious professor.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.

Chapters

00:00:12 Knowledge Fight Returns
00:01:41 My Bright Spot Baked In
00:04:40 Stakes Too High To Bet
00:17:19 Deepwater Horizon Transcripts
00:25:12 Aliens Sure Not Destroying Us
00:29:20 Easter Morning Shocking Post
00:33:00 Witchcraft Attacks And Thrones
00:48:19 Bible Verses And Battle Axes
00:54:33 Mindset Of God In Situation
01:09:33 Candace Owens Hottest Moment
01:24:52 Last Straw For Owen
01:28:42 Bankruptcy And Job Security
01:41:08 Trump Blackmailed With Pictures
01:52:18 Abortion Implications Fucked Up
02:07:54 Stood Tall Against Rage
02:23:33 Alex Glazing Trump Impotently
02:36:26 Realized Lost To Silence
02:39:51 Facebook Invites And Cues
02:43:11 Often Boring Happy Ending