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April 10, 2026 - Knowledge Fight
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#1133: April 3, 2026

Dan and Jordan dissect Alex Jones's April 3, 2026 retreat into alien conspiracies and biblical esoterics to evade Trump's nuclear threats and Medicare cuts. They expose Jones's transactional pivot from promoting Epstein files to fearing Trump's revenue impact, while debunking his "Blindsight" blindness cure hype and debunked Vedic Mathematics claims. The hosts further critique Jones's frustration with guest Dark Journalist over theories linking UFOs to demons and Breaking Bad to predictive programming, ultimately revealing how Jones's desperate rebranding undermines Christian tenets and distracts from genuine political crises. [Automatically generated summary]

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@darkjournalist
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alex jones
infowars 27:02
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dan friesen
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jordan holmes
28:43
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pastor james david manning
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Speaker Time Text
Unexpected Out of Context Drop 00:08:02
alex jones
Not knowledge fight Dan and Jordan.
I am sweating knowledge fight calm.
unidentified
It's time to pray I have great respect for knowledge fight knowledge fight I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight Dan and Jordan knowledge fight Need money Andy and Kansas stop it Andy and Kansas Andy and Kansas and it's time To pray.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding.
Hello, Alex.
I'm a Christian color.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your word.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
I like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed, we are.
unidentified
Dan.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
Quick question for you.
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, probably unexpected.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And this is a little bit, you know, off of A.
It's a little weird.
You stepped in it, my man.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
What did I step in?
dan friesen
So much feedback about the dark side of the moon thing.
So many people messaging me like, can't believe Jordan doesn't know about it.
jordan holmes
I understand the concept.
dan friesen
I just think of it as the far side of the moon.
I don't really.
I'm not that interested in space, honestly.
I just accepted the way you were framing it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
No, I like space.
I like space.
I understand the concept.
dan friesen
People are coming at you.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
This was Chumba Wumba levels.
jordan holmes
I'm trapped in this situation, right?
Where it's like, no matter what I do, it's terrible.
Because I could be like, ah, I knew it.
Or I could be like, it was a joke that failed.
And then the real problem is that I suck, right?
At doing the joke part.
Or I could be like, you know what?
Yeah, I'm fucking dumb.
How about that?
How about that, motherfuckers?
unidentified
I'm stupid.
dan friesen
And see, this is why it's a nice bright spot.
Because I'm kind of stupid too.
I didn't, in the moment, feel like I had the comfort to be like, Hold on, Jordan.
unidentified
That's dumb.
dan friesen
So, you know, it's a nice reminder that we all can be dumb about some stuff sometimes.
jordan holmes
I'm dumb as shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Come at me.
Tell me how stupid I am.
I'm free.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's pretty sweet.
Anyway, some of that feedback was nice and it charmed me.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is Shohei Otani.
Shohei Otani, my friend.
Right now, okay.
So, Shohei Otani has won all the MVP awards that one can win.
dan friesen
I hear he's good.
jordan holmes
He's done things that nobody's ever done before.
He had a 50 home run and 50 stolen base season, which nobody's ever done before.
He's just astonishing.
And this year, he's going to try and win the Cy Young Award, which means he's going to also try and be not just a great pitcher, but the best pitcher in the league.
dan friesen
Which is probably attainable, right?
jordan holmes
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
Currently, he's pitched 12 innings and given up zero runs, right?
It is within his talent level to do something.
The problem I have with it is this, right?
He can do it just because he really wants to.
That should not be okay.
dan friesen
But also, you kind of imagine that, like, what kind of wear and tear is he doing on himself if he keeps that up for the rest of the season?
jordan holmes
You can't.
It's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But do you know what?
Do you know what's keeping him from doing it?
That it's impossible.
dan friesen
And he bet on himself.
jordan holmes
Right?
I mean, I don't like it.
I don't like it whenever a guy can do an impossible thing just because he really wants to do it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You always feel like there should be, you know, Come on, man.
The body can't do this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you shouldn't.
dan friesen
No, you can't be proud of you for having the will.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
It's nice of you, but there should be things that are unattainable.
dan friesen
It feels like this takes away some excuses that you have.
jordan holmes
There are no excuses other than this is a multi generational talent made of some sort of magical material.
dan friesen
I guess so.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm not made of that.
My knees hurt all the time.
dan friesen
And always have.
unidentified
All the time.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So let me ask you this I've not kept up with baseball in a long time.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But I remember.
Ken Griffey Jr. being so cool.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's super cool.
dan friesen
Is Shohei Otani as cool as Ken Griffey Jr. was?
jordan holmes
Shohei Otani is not as cool as Ken Griffey Jr. was.
First off, never wears his cap backwards.
Sure.
Maybe he does, but it doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Rock and Jock doesn't exist anymore.
jordan holmes
And secondly, he's got too much pressure.
The entire nation of Japan puts pressure on him all the time, right?
You can't be cool if you also have the responsibility to represent an entire country.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess so.
jordan holmes
Whereas Ken Griffey.
He was cool as shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
He was playing with house money.
He was a junior.
jordan holmes
He was so cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
His dad was already great at baseball.
And then he was like, what if I'm going to be one of the 10 best guys ever, anyways?
dan friesen
And the coolest.
unidentified
And so cool.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And I'm hoping, I'm pulling for Shohei to get the cycle of awards.
jordan holmes
Just to win everything.
Just win it all.
unidentified
Fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, he can.
jordan holmes
He can.
dan friesen
Because he wants to.
jordan holmes
Just because he wants to.
dan friesen
So can you.
jordan holmes
Just because he wants to.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we have an episode to go over today, and we're going to be talking about April 3rd, 2026.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
We are here in this period where Alex is figuring out how the fuck am I going to get away from Trump?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This shit is bad.
He's threatening to blow up a whole country.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
He's firing his attorney general.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
Everything's a mess.
jordan holmes
It's not going well.
dan friesen
So we have a fun episode today.
But before we get into it, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, I think that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So, first, Big Dicks Mystery Meat, home of the four inch foot long.
Our brats are the worst, but you can't beat our wieners.
Thank you so much.
You're now Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Liz T. Thank you so much.
You're now Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
dan friesen
And Waluigi isn't even Wario's brother.
He's just a guy Wario hired so he'd have a tennis doubles partner.
Thank you so much.
You're now Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I think a lot of this lore is unexplored, and some of it's open to interpretation, but I do agree they're not necessarily brothers.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
We got a technocrat in the mix.
So, thank you so much to Honky Wonk Banonka Nonk.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Don't honk your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor james david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Sharp.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
He's a loser little kitty baby.
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
So, today, before we get into the episode proper, I got an out of context drop for you.
alex jones
If we start putting trips on the ground and they get repulsed or pinned down, then Trump is going to be like, oh, if I pull out now, I'm a weenie forever.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
He's a weenie forever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, boy.
I do appreciate the idea that we should be concerned about whether or not our presidents are like, well, this may be the right decision, but I can't look like a weenie.
Right.
I'm going to have to kill everybody.
dan friesen
I called Moscow and they said that they were rubber and I was glue.
jordan holmes
And there's nothing I can do.
unidentified
Shit.
jordan holmes
Sorry, I can't be a weenie, guys.
Y'all got to go.
dan friesen
It's so dumb that he's talking about like nuclear war and Trump being a weenie.
unidentified
Yep.
Covering for Trump on Aliens 00:07:18
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's how we live.
dan friesen
So we start off this episode.
And Alex, last we heard from him on our show, he was talking a fair amount about orbs being everywhere.
jordan holmes
They were great.
dan friesen
And it turns out that I think he's leaning into the idea that there's a Fake alien disclosure that's about to happen.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Well, Congressman Tim Burchett has a lot of credibility with me.
He didn't go along with the Republicans or the Democrats on the Epstein cover up, just a lot of other things.
You tell he's the real deal.
His voting record's excellent.
And he was asked yesterday, we have a clip coming up on Fox News about former Congressman Gates being briefed about alien human hybrids by the Army.
He said, Well, I can't give you classified information, but he said, Just what we were shown two weeks ago.
Would terrorize the entire population, and you just wouldn't even believe it.
He says Americans would freak out if they knew what Congress has been told.
Now, I've been on top of this for a long time, and I can tell you most of what Congress has given, most of the guests, and I'm not putting Joe Rogan down, he knows a lot of them are full of it.
He's always trying to figure out who's accurate and who's not.
He asks me all the time, will come on as these DOD whistleblowers and just put out absolute crap.
So they're flooding the zone with a bunch of disinformation.
But there's also a lot of real stuff going on.
dan friesen
If Alex wants to get any points for saying that many of Rogan's guests are full of shit and that Rogan knows that a lot of them are full of shit, then I'm going to need him to name some names.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
As long as he just speaks in these kind of vague terms, it's almost like not criticizing Rogan's guests at all.
And this is a bigger problem than it appears to be at first because Alex is saying that he talks to Joe about how some of his guests are full of shit.
That means that in theory, Rogan is presenting bullshitters to his audience as experts.
Knows they're bullshitters and doesn't let his audience in on the fact that they're bullshitters.
He might even let them come back on the show and let them lie about what they said about Sandy Hook.
Like it's crazy what he might allow.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
If Rogan knows that some of his guests are running psyops on his audience, then he has an obligation to protect them from those psyops or else he's complicit in them.
So it would be good for Alex and even more so for Joe to go on the record about who the people are who have used him as a megaphone to manipulate his huge audience.
Also, I'm glad that Alex is proud of Representative Burchett.
For not going along with the Epstein cover up, but the problem is that Alex using that as a mark of credibility, it reminds you that Alex was fine going along with it.
jordan holmes
He's super cool with going along with it.
dan friesen
That wasn't a deal breaker for him, and his main problem was that Trump wouldn't shut up about it, whereas, you know, Alex prefers a more silent, stonewall kind of cover up.
So, Burchett has been talking a bunch of shit lately about aliens, but to be fair to him, he's been doing that for a long time.
His most recent comments have come because he's introduced a bill seeking to get rid of the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office.
Or the AARO.
So the AARO is an office in the Department of Defense that handles alien and UFO reports.
And Burchett's bill would take that centralized office away and delegate their responsibilities to a bunch of other offices so it would be harder to cover up aliens.
jordan holmes
Okay, I gotcha.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
So it's like a dead, it's like whenever you send a letter to every attorney before you go confront the guy in case they kill you.
They'll be like, ah, the letter's coming out no matter what.
dan friesen
I guess so.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
But, like, just the presentation of this, when you look at it at first, it doesn't seem insane.
The idea that there's one centralized DoD office that's responsible for the UFO stuff, that sounds like X Files stuff.
And we don't need that in the real world.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Burchett claims that there's been like this decades long cover up, and it seems like if there's just one office that covers this stuff, then maybe that could be a bottleneck.
jordan holmes
It would be easier to cover it up if there was only one office.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and the computers were probably 20 years old because it's the government.
dan friesen
They're not even using computers.
They're using like weird punch card things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're probably using weird punch card things.
dan friesen
They're communicating via piano.
jordan holmes
Ironic considering the magic technology that the aliens give them.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, this office was created in 2022, partially because.
Because of people like Burchett, who are yelling about how the government needed to take aliens more seriously.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is that.
dan friesen
This is a big old who cares.
If aliens exist and have technology that everyone imagines they see in the skies, then we're fucked if they want to hurt us.
They're by definition a benevolent force because they could crush us but don't.
So they aren't nearly as big of a threat to humans as the Trump administration.
jordan holmes
If they were going to, they could have.
So why worry about if they will?
dan friesen
Right.
They haven't yet.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is, that speaks volumes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Anyone who cares a ton about this stuff right now seems very suspicious to me.
Even if you're trying to make a conspiracy out of the idea that the government is going to fake some kind of disclosure, I still think that's trying to distract from the real world issues we're facing.
unidentified
Maybe.
dan friesen
Trump is threatening to kill civilizations.
So, not treating that like an immediate crisis and spending your time rambling about aliens, it kind of still feels like covering for Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's weird.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a bit like if somebody elected Trump.
Goldfinger president, but I guess that's how it works.
dan friesen
Or gold member.
jordan holmes
Or gold member, also.
Let me ask you a question.
Because I think we've been, not to use the term predictive programming, but in terms of the imagination of what aliens could do, I think we've got the gamut.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, we've got the they blow us up, we've got the they got magic technology.
dan friesen
They fuck around a little bit, they're pranksters.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
We got the men in black version.
What exactly would freak the public out so much that you can't tell us anymore?
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
You know what I mean?
dan friesen
I think, you know what?
I was actually kind of thinking about that a little bit.
I think if you gave everyone a week off work that they could, like, deal with this with their families.
jordan holmes
Hey, we're dealing with aliens.
We know it's going to take some time, so we're going to send everybody dinner for the next week, and then you can deal with it, and then we'll be back to work.
dan friesen
Yeah, if everyone was, like, able to safely process it with people that they can connect with, I don't know.
I don't think people would have that much harder time.
jordan holmes
I also don't.
Because you're right.
Like, if we're at the stage where they want to kill us, if you can travel through time and space to get to us, you've already won.
You've already won.
There's nothing we could do to stop you.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the fact that you haven't killed us should, like, we should take that as a sign of good faith.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Because we've got it coming.
If you're from space and you're like, I don't know, maybe we should kill civilizations that are bad and you saw us, you'd be like, yeah, this is the line.
This is the Mendoza line.
Anything worse than this, we got to get it out of here.
dan friesen
What if the aliens are around, but they're just not on Twitter, so they don't know all this stuff?
jordan holmes
We don't get social media.
How do you guys even talk to each other?
dan friesen
So, you're talking about the imagination about aliens and predictive programming.
And Alex actually talks a little bit about that in the context of Ridley Scott.
Ridley Scott's Insane Alien Mind 00:07:35
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And it was Ridley Scott when he made Prometheus, the prequel to Alien, told the New York Times years after it came out.
And I said this when it came out.
I said, This is the elite's creation story.
None of them are atheists.
None of them believe we came from.
Evolution on its own, but directed evolution, accelerated evolution, and this is what they believe because I've been around these people.
And they do.
And then he gives this big interview years later saying, Oh, this is my religion.
This is how I think the earth was actually made.
And you notice the aliens are humanoid giants.
10, 12 feet tall.
And they've got a bioweapon that they use to kill other humanoid colonies that they don't like, because they'd seeded us here.
And they're sending ships from their attack base out to wipe our planet out.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
And that's why it's interesting later humans get to a development level and go back out and, well, they shot at us and missed, but shit at us and hit.
So, and that's what's in the Anunnaki legends and all of that is that the.
Is that God decided to wipe us out because we've been mixed with another alien species he didn't like?
So this is all about to come out, folks.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So I was reading through interviews that Ridley Scott did about the alien Prometheus, and I found this bit from 2024 or 2025 when he was promoting Gladiator 2.
And I just have to share this with you.
unidentified
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
Quote To sidetrack a moment, my sport was always tennis, and I became reasonably good.
But when you get that, Good, you'd better play five times a day, five days a week.
I watched a documentary on the retirement of Roger Federer.
It's three parts, just fantastic.
Federer begins and, in his soft English, said, I know I'm going to cry.
He's about to have his last matches with Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic.
He talks about the game, and I'm paralleling that with what my game is, which is feature film.
I thought, good God, if I had to retire at 40 from filmmaking when I've just began my new career, I wouldn't know what to do.
I'm sure Roger's got it all planned out.
He's a very smart man, but there's one thing you'll always miss.
You miss Nadal across that net.
To clarify, he was asked a question about how he felt about James Cameron directing the second Alien movie instead of him, and if that factored into his decision to insist on directing the Gladiator sequel.
And that was where his mind went.
unidentified
Yes.
Yes.
jordan holmes
He and James Cameron are in a death spiral.
Yes.
dan friesen
So much respect.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I remember that documentary, and I cried.
A lot.
unidentified
He's there.
dan friesen
Ridley Scott could sit down and talk about it.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's amazing to know that Ridley Scott and I have a lot in common.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If I had more time, I probably would have gotten deep in a hole of watching interviews with him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because the transcripts of them that I was reading over were like, this guy seems fucking insane.
Seems like a good interview.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does sound right.
dan friesen
I've read a bunch of the interviews that he did about Prometheus, and he doesn't say that he based it on the globalist's creation myth.
He tends to bring up Milton's Paradise Lost, and when he was promoting Gladiator 2, he literally said he was, quote, asleep at the wheel.
When he was making Prometheus.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
I'm glad Alex has decided that it's a secret revelation of the devil's beliefs or whatever, though.
That's fun.
Anyway, I kept that in mostly because I found the tennis.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fun.
Thank you.
That was good to hear about.
I wonder okay, is it just that Elrond was like, fuck it, I'll do it?
Is that the only thing that keeps all of these guys from starting their own religion?
Like, could Ridley Scott have just spun Prometheus into like Dianetics and then moved on and become Scientology guy?
unidentified
Is it there?
dan friesen
No.
Well, look, I'm not a Ridley Scott scholar.
jordan holmes
I mean, you've just said he's insane.
So that's a mark in his favor for starting Scientology.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I think he's the kind of insane that wouldn't allow himself to take it that seriously and want to go make another gladiator picture.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think he likes film and he likes weird ideas.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't make the Kingdom of Heaven and want to take over the world.
dan friesen
And here's where I think he doesn't have the narcissism that's necessary to have a religion.
He was asked about James Cameron.
Do an avatar with all digital stuff.
And he was making a big deal of how he made Gladiator practical stuff.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And he wasn't mean about James Cameron using digital CGI.
He's like, God, Jim does it different.
jordan holmes
That's the way of being mean.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the way of being mean.
If I live my life completely different from you, I am absolutely telling you that you're doing it wrong.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Maybe.
I think Scott's above it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, fair enough.
dan friesen
So, Alex said something in the early going of this episode that got me pretty excited.
alex jones
It is Friday, April 3rd, 2026.
I am your embattled host coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas, Austin, transmitting worldwide.
All right, I'm going to spend the third and fourth hour.
On humanity's origin story, to understand the present, you must know the past and the beginning.
unidentified
All right.
Here we go.
alex jones
And if you believe the Bible, if you believe the Sumerian texts that are carved in stone, if you believe the Egyptian texts, if you believe all the books of the Bible that they confirm were written after Christ's death on papyrus, I guess, but pulled out, it's War of the Worlds, baby.
But the church does not want you to know that.
Both the Orthodox and the Catholics.
And it is a fact.
And it is what the establishment knows and what they've been keeping from everybody.
dan friesen
Two hours of this show is going to be Alex just rambling about stuff from movies and books by Zacharias Sitchin and things that he half remembers from episodes of Ancient Aliens.
jordan holmes
Better believe it.
dan friesen
This is a man who doesn't want to talk about Trump.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
I know that this show isn't really tied too closely to reality, but this editorial decision should be seen for what it is, which is cowardice.
Trump was sold to Alex's audience as someone who knew about the globalist plots and was working to stop them.
If the globalist plots go back to Samaria and the beginning of human history, then it's pretty implausible to believe that Trump could have ever known about them, been on the right side, and then all of a sudden went bad.
That's just not believable.
A good rule of thumb is that Alex's talking too seriously about aliens.
That's a sign that things are going really well for him or really bad.
If he feels on top of the world and he's drunk with Rogan, he'll ramble about how he knows the secrets of the universe.
And if he's run out of every single excuse on earth for Trump, he'll retreat to the stars.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that's what he's trying to do here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, This is the equivalent of being outside and like helping to plan a bank robbery and then being outside.
And when the cops are walking by and running in, you just go, maybe flick McCoy in the air.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, never involved with this.
Got to get out of here.
Goodbye, Eve.
dan friesen
Check your watch.
jordan holmes
Oh, who are those people?
Get them.
Get them, officers.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There's something really like.
I gotta get the fuck out of here.
unidentified
100%.
dan friesen
It's kind of funny.
jordan holmes
There's something to it.
dan friesen
So, Alex is talking about Sumerian stone tablets and what have you.
jordan holmes
Written in stone.
Mythological Flood Connections 00:05:32
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And that brings him to Gilgamesh.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Where we fight not against human blood, but against off world entities.
Read it.
It's in the Bible.
Pull it up New Testament, Old Testament.
And what's in?
jordan holmes
Pull the whole thing up now!
alex jones
Sumerian text, the Epic of Gilgamesh.
The Anunnaki, it's the same story in the first book of the Bible.
And boy, have you heard of this before?
All about a global elite working with the off world aliens, and the aliens decide that the humans, there's too many of them.
And so they re engineer us to be slower, stupider, infertile.
What does the Old Testament tell you?
That people were living 800 years on average, but then God or the gods cursed us and engineered us to only live 75 on average.
Well, that's the Epic of Gilgamesh.
That's the Sumerians.
dan friesen
Not really.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
That's sort of in the background of the story of Gilgamesh, but that's not.
That's not what's going on there.
Like, that maybe is a part of the deeper mythology.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But the character Gilgamesh wants to find the secret to eternal life, but he learns that it's not really possible and that death is part of how God created man.
The story includes a flood myth, which is a parallel to the story in the Bible about Noah.
Gilgamesh meets a guy, the guy who survived the flood by building an ark, who was given the gift of immortality by the gods because he saved humanity with a boat.
Nice.
So, that is, you know, one immortality that's in there.
In Genesis 6, God just decides that humans were living too long, so he set the limit at 120, 120 years.
jordan holmes
I mean, it was, I would still say that's probably too long, but, you know, it's better than 1,000.
dan friesen
And I have bad news.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There was a French lady who died in 1997 who was 122.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
So it seems like it's not a full time.
jordan holmes
Cram it, God!
dan friesen
One of the main reasons that people lived so long in the Bible at the beginning and then they had much more normal lifespans is that they needed to mythologically connect the creation story of Adam with the destruction of the world in the flood.
Noah's the 10th generation descendant of Adam, and making that numerically fit requires the ancestors living way longer than people did, and that's mostly what's going on here.
jordan holmes
Let's face it, we cannot remember that many.
This was an oral tradition before we invented writing.
I can't remember that many names.
unidentified
I can't.
jordan holmes
I can't do it.
So this guy lived a thousand years.
Sure, he could have been 50 hundred guys.
But you know what?
He's just this guy.
dan friesen
And I'm not saying that there's like crazy number codes that you can decrypt and find magic powers.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Numbers are significant.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
10 generations is, you know, 10 years.
jordan holmes
They're doing a thing.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
They're doing the thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So that's part of the importance.
jordan holmes
We're humans.
We like big round numbers.
If you see a round number in real life, though, it's probably not real.
dan friesen
Or maybe the globalists back then were working with aliens.
unidentified
That's possible.
dan friesen
To shorten humans' lifespans by putting something in the water, putting like atrazine in the water.
jordan holmes
Here's my problem with all of these alien stories is that while I respect.
That aliens, I wouldn't be able to understand their motivations.
Obviously, they're alien to me, right?
At the very least, I would expect somebody who is capable of traveling through a space faring species, right?
Would at least have figured out a like, this is something we want or something we don't want kind of thing.
There would be a benefit or an advantage to it.
Why are they so inexplicably crazy?
Just doing so many random shit for fun.
Why 120?
dan friesen
I think it's because mostly they're being imagined.
jordan holmes
Well, Dan, I know.
dan friesen
And some of this stuff is literary.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
But I do think you touched on something important, which is it's a fool's errand to try and understand alien motivation.
Yeah.
Anyway, the Earth maybe is a big research facility that aliens are using to.
unidentified
Why not?
dan friesen
Figure something out.
jordan holmes
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
alex jones
Don't look around, boys and girls.
You're not in Kansas anymore and you never were.
unidentified
Ha!
alex jones
But there is so much baloney loaded into all of this and so much disinformation.
But we know that with the genetic engineering and the level of science we have, this has been a phenomenon for 20 years.
Nobody's an atheist anymore.
Nobody thinks that salt in the ocean just turned into life.
It was all put here.
Nothing on this planet is from this planet.
This planet is a giant research facility.
jordan holmes
A couple of mice.
alex jones
And it's had different owners and different groups.
And you go to the ancient Indian Vedic text, 3,000, 4,000 years old.
The oldest copies they found in things carved in stone.
Vedic Math and Ancient Genius 00:03:11
alex jones
And all of it is mathematical equations that they now are able to translate that are super advanced on energy and sound, everything else.
Oh, and the Indians have the exact same stories.
dan friesen
So I'm supposed to have my mind blown by the Indian texts having stories that match the Indian texts.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Feels like Alex is throwing spaghetti at the wall here.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is not possible.
jordan holmes
Possible.
dan friesen
So Alex is talking about a book that was published in 1965 called Vedic Mathematics.
It purports to be 16 sayings that illustrate mathematical principles that are derived from Vedic texts, but it was a hoax.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The writer just pretended that the things he wrote were connected to the Vedas, but it was mostly just stuff he came up with.
The book is mostly just cool math tricks you can do to impress your friends.
Like, for example, you can multiply any number by five if you just cut it in half and put a zero at the end.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Or if you want to put in a little more complexity, you can multiply any two digit number by 11 by separating the digits and then putting their sum in between them.
jordan holmes
No, what?
So that's like 121?
dan friesen
It's mathematical tricks and like mental math things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what they call new math now.
unidentified
Is it?
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, I've heard that term.
jordan holmes
So, maybe it's because that guy is actually a genius and the Vedic tests were right there the whole time.
dan friesen
I don't know how to accurately express this, but this is the Platonic ideal of an Alex source.
So many of his reference points are like they're books that are perfect for junior high students to use to make themselves feel smarter than their peers, and that's what this is.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He used this book to feel smarter than everyone about math, just like he used None Dare Call It Conspiracy to feel smarter than everyone at school about politics and history.
I get that, and I think it's awesome that some kids are contrarian as hell, but you're supposed to grow past this stage.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex is in his 50s.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Makes you really recognize why a guy would be attracted.
To somebody who is afraid of looking like a weenie should they back down from anything.
dan friesen
Forever.
unidentified
Forever.
dan friesen
A weenie forever.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You don't want to look like a weenie, says the junior high man trying to show off.
dan friesen
That's so, it feels so right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does.
It really does.
That's a good out of context drop.
dan friesen
So, Alex, he brought up Gilgamesh earlier.
I'm like, has this boy been reading?
Is he doing some flipping of pages?
jordan holmes
Or he's playing Final Fantasy.
There's a lot of Gilgamesh in there.
dan friesen
Nah, he's just on Twitter.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
alex jones
But you know what?
Let's just go ahead and play a short little video, a little prelude from a video I saw on X a few days ago with just a little snapshot of the Epic of Gilgamesh that they couldn't translate until whatever was like 80 years ago.
And then they found the decoding stones that explained how to decode it.
And man, it's like reading a science fiction book.
But it's not.
dan friesen
So Alex just plays this video of a guy that is on Twitter that is just talking about Gilgamesh.
But it's mostly like background ancient aliens type explanations of Sumerian myths.
Right.
And stuff.
Magic Cities in the Bible 00:09:51
dan friesen
But like, I was listening to this and I was like, Alex has essentially outsourced what John Bowne and Greg Reese used to do by stealing people's content from Twitter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There was a.
A degree of separation where it was almost like a plausible deniability kind of thing.
Like, sure, I call them reporters, but they just troll the internet and grab stuff that is popular or going viral at any time.
And then I talk about it.
Now he's just literally scrolling.
dan friesen
Well, I've seen the invoices.
I know what, like, John Bowne was getting paid per video.
And I, like, Alex used to have to pay him to find something that was on Twitter and then make his own video sort of covering it.
Yeah.
So Alex could play it on the show.
Now he just steals everyone's shit.
And it's higher quality because people are actually trying.
jordan holmes
Because they're making it themselves.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Instead of John Bowne rehashing it like Tosh or some shit.
dan friesen
He solved the problem of, like, he can't get any competent employees.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And he doesn't have to pay anymore.
It is awesome.
jordan holmes
It is the apotheosis of hiring by contest.
What greater contest is there than just grabbing enough attention today?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
A contest you didn't know you were in.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
You're not getting anything for, you can't win.
I guess maybe exposure.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And exposure.
unidentified
Meh.
dan friesen
So, Alex talks about how the aliens are in the Bible.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And they're also in things that aren't in the Bible, but probably should be.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And it goes on from there.
We'll air more of that later.
jordan holmes
What else should be in the Bible?
alex jones
That's been dug up all over those ancient sites.
And remember, the Jews were held captive, along with other groups, by the Egyptians that were going along at the same time nearby, just 800 miles away or 1,000 miles away or so, less.
And then they had their own writing.
And then they wrote about it in Genesis, which is essentially the same story.
And then there were four books of the Bible that folks decided to cut out of the Old Testament, a couple out of the New, confirmed books.
And it's all about that.
All the books about that, you don't get to know about that.
And the preachers always tell you the Bible's literal, except the parts of Ezekiel and Daniel and Revelation and Genesis that talk about all this.
jordan holmes
And a bunch of other stuff.
alex jones
But you read the other books, which I intend to do on air soon, or the key messages I was reading this morning.
unidentified
The whole one?
alex jones
It's just unbelievable, folks.
dan friesen
And it's unbelievable.
Alex really shouldn't open this door up because down this road is trouble.
It would be one thing if there are only a few books.
That weren't included in the Bible, and they all happen to be about aliens or demons.
But the reality is that there's a ton of books that aren't in the Bible that arguably could be.
One very difficult question any religion has to answer is about the canon of what is divinely inspired and what isn't.
jordan holmes
What bullshit do we want to work with?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And for someone in Alex's position who claims that God speaks to him and gives him prophecies, it's not worth it to debate this.
It's pretty well understood by religious studies scholars that many of the books in the canonical Bible have names that are attributed to them that they could not have written those books.
jordan holmes
Of course, of course not.
dan friesen
That was very common in literature at the time.
So even though Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are theoretically supposed to have been written by the apostles, they were not.
The Dead Sea Scrolls included books that aren't in the canon, and the Nag Hammadi Library had tons of excluded texts.
There's so much that could be in the Christian canon that isn't, and when you start to examine that fact and try to explain it, It's hard to escape the seemingly arbitrary nature of what's in and what's not.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Once you start dealing with religious texts on this level, it has a tendency to take the divine out of the conversation, and that's not good for Alex.
So let's tease this conversation out a little bit.
He's saying that these four books were kicked out of the Bible because the powers that be didn't want you to know what they said.
At the core, this is Alex saying that the canon of the Bible was decided as a means of maintaining social control because those books were too threatening to the people in power, so they excluded them.
In Alex's mind, there's a true Christianity, but these people were trying to wield power by putting the label of Christianity on their distorted version of the canon.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I welcome this argument, and it's definitely something that history has provided examples of people doing, like the Slave Bible.
But if Alex wants to make this argument, he needs to get specific about what his canon is.
He can't just gesture wildly at a copy of the Lost Books of the Bible and Forgotten Books of Eden and pretend that his work is done.
He needs to give a reason why some books are in and some aren't, or he needs to admit it's just based off feelings.
Aliens and demons excite him, so the books that are about that kind of stuff, that's real Christianity.
But the ones that are just a bunch of rules that he doesn't want to follow, those are boring.
So give him the boot.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The sacred should be treated as sacred, regardless of how fundamentally irrational it is.
Because once you start trying to bring rationality to bear on the sacred, everything collapses.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is the space where Alex wants to have his cake and eat it too, where everything he talks about is documented and it's all this study, but he also has magic, prophetic dreams.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just no good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
If you're a believer and somebody's like, what about all this stuff?
You go, like, presumably God can handle what goes in his own fucking book.
Am I right?
He knows if it made it in, it's supposed to be.
If it didn't, it's not supposed to be.
I don't need to ask questions.
Because the moment I ask questions, then it's like, well, what if it could be this?
No, it can't be.
It's just God.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
There's like a number of books that you could make very valid arguments for why they could be in.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And there are denominations that have the Apocrypha as part of their canon.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
And there's strong arguments there.
There's also strong arguments for why, like, some books shouldn't be in the Bible.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, you know, I guess if you get really crazy with it, you could just say, like, a Ray Bradbury story should be in the Bible.
unidentified
Why not?
jordan holmes
Why not?
If it's a demonstrably useful parable of something that somebody could absolutely grow through learning about, then yeah, fuck it.
dan friesen
That was part of the argument for why Luther included some of the Apocrypha in his Bible.
It's like, well, fuck it, it helps.
If it's fake, it can only be uplifting to Christians and it's a good lesson.
unidentified
Absolutely.
What are we doing?
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
unidentified
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Oh, that one story is about him fucking with wine.
What are we doing?
Make him fuck with other stuff.
Who gives a shit?
Throw it in there.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Let's see him make a motorcycle.
jordan holmes
Check this out.
Butter, no churn.
Can you believe that shit?
Put it in the Bible.
dan friesen
That's pretty crazy.
jordan holmes
That's pretty crazy.
dan friesen
So, another thing that probably should be in the Bible.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Plato.
unidentified
Plato?
dan friesen
Yeah, because he talked about Atlantis and stuff.
Can you read?
jordan holmes
I think Plato shouldn't be in the Bible.
unidentified
What?
That's funny.
alex jones
Plato said, where.
The Spartans lived.
Spartans in the Spartan War, the war with the Trojans, with the Trojans lived.
But before that, they weren't even sure the Trojans existed or where their city was or where their island was.
But right where Plato was, archaeologists never found it.
And then they finally, what, 30 something years ago, found a giant city that had just been basically buried in some later flood.
And it was all there, Troy, just like Plato said.
And Plato said tens of thousands of years before, there had been two cities.
Atlantis was two.
One was Atlantis, another name.
dan friesen
It seems to me like if Alex actually believed this stuff, he wouldn't have difficulty coming up with the other magic city that existed in the past.
jordan holmes
It's really important.
dan friesen
Pretty sure he's trying to remember the name Lemuria, but Plato doesn't mention the second city.
Plato didn't give a new location for where Troy was, he was just repeating what was already established in the Homeric oral tradition in the Iliad and the Odyssey.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
They didn't find Troy 30 years ago.
Heinrich Schliemann found it in the 1870s.
People were initially skeptical of the excavation because it was believed that a different already discovered city was probably Troy.
But as he found more evidence, he built a strong case and brought people over to his side.
That said, there's still skepticism in one sense, and that is that there's no evidence that the Homeric poems are true.
unidentified
Eeee.
dan friesen
Troy existing doesn't mean that there was a guy who fought there who was invincible except on his heel.
jordan holmes
In fact,.
I would argue that regardless, he probably wasn't.
dan friesen
Sure.
I think he was probably a good fighter if he was a person.
unidentified
Maybe.
dan friesen
Anyway, all that stuff, just this, the city could be there.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this stuff does not have to be true.
jordan holmes
No, None of it.
dan friesen
Also, get this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is going to blow your mind.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
When that dude found Troy, that was 20 years before we invented volleyball.
That's how long ago it was.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
Volleyball did not exist.
jordan holmes
It is hard to imagine a world without volleyball.
You can imagine before Naismith, you can be like, ah, where'd basketball come from?
But volleyball, you just got a net and you hammer it.
dan friesen
You have to think badminton existed before, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Why don't we do this with our hands?
jordan holmes
Why not?
Lawn sports have existed for a lot longer.
So just throw a volleyball in there.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
dan friesen
Alex is saying that they found Troy 30 years ago, pre volleyball.
jordan holmes
I want to say that 30 years ago is closer to when the movie Atlantis. By Disney was released, starring Michael J. Fox.
Surf Ninjas and Other Dimensions 00:03:49
dan friesen
You make an interesting point.
jordan holmes
In it, he finds the Shepherd's Journal.
Very similar in story wise how it works as to Plato's little thing.
And in it, they find the lost hidden city of Atlantis underground.
dan friesen
Tough pitch coming from me here.
Yeah.
That script also put it in the Bible.
jordan holmes
I would say, you know what?
I really like that movie.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think it's great.
dan friesen
So we are in the third dimension right now.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Physical space.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Tapping on the desk.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Um, And I feel like it's real, but there's other dimensions that are more real.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's possible.
alex jones
All these ancient cultures and the Bible tell us that there are dimensional realities more real than ours.
We now know with mathematics that's true.
And that our minds are able to connect to that electrochemically, which they are, that our brains are transceivers, all of our cells are, and that we're given messages through the ether.
unidentified
What's ether?
alex jones
That's what all the different cultures would do rituals and hallucinogens to have group hallucinations, which there's no such thing.
It raises the veil so that you can now see beyond because your brain already sees it, it filters it.
Output transcript Out, and you can only see a limited light spectrum in the third dimension.
dan friesen
This is where you have to take a step back if you're Alex and you're still pretending to be a Christian.
A lot of the stuff in the Bible is pretty negotiable, and if you're in one tradition, you may believe something slightly different than someone who's in another group.
unidentified
It'll happen.
dan friesen
Baptism is a good example of where there's like a lot of disagreement.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But the thing that you really can't get away from is that God had a son named Jesus who died for humanity's sins, and that sacrifice created a new covenant between God and man.
If you don't believe that, you're not a Christian.
jordan holmes
It's in the title.
dan friesen
If Alex believes that there are a bunch of other, quote, more real dimensions that we get to play around in if we try real hard, that's great, and I'm happy for him, but that's not Christianity.
And let me take this one step further.
If he believes that the books of the Bible are some esoteric riddle that only he's smart enough to understand, then not only is he not a Christian, he's directly refuting the core pillars of the faith.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We've listened to the show enough that we've heard him pray countless times on air, and he's faked crying about his personal relationship with Jesus.
So, I don't think he just thinks that the Bible is supposed to be coded language that explains these other dimensions and stuff.
When he's doing this kind of thing, he isn't crying because the riddles are so good.
He's using the conventional understanding of the Christian faith to manipulate his audience.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then doing this kind of shit.
Yep.
Which is blasphemous.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You know, there's a great Leslie Nielsen movie called Surf Ninjas.
Here's what's great about a movie called Surf Ninjas.
dan friesen
You call that a Leslie Nielsen movie?
jordan holmes
Of course I do.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
He's in it.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
I don't remember the names of anybody else that's in it, so he's definitely not one of the surf ninjas.
No, he's not.
But if you name a movie Surf Ninjas, you need at the very least two things surfing and ninjas, right?
If you name your religion Christianity, you are fairly required to have the Christ be like front and center.
dan friesen
And it has to be a real, like, whether you understand it as like some kind of a metaphorical truth or you believe it as.
You know, literal resurrection.
Sure, You must believe in this thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It is what we are united around.
Otherwise, we are not united at all.
The word is meaningless.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex is basically kind of, you know, he likes to talk about people peeing on things.
He's kind of pissing on a cross.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Eyes as Brain Tissue Stalks 00:06:30
jordan holmes
That is the problem.
You know, you say, hey, we're going to protect Christianity.
If people start saying bad stuff about it and they're like, oh, I'm a Christian, but this is what we do.
We go, No, you can't do that.
But then the problem with Christian saying, no, you can't do that is they tend to go a little far.
They tend to go a little far in history.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
In the whole, you can't do this thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a tough balance to strike.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, it's like, no, we don't want Alex, but at the same time, you shouldn't put people on the rack.
It's a trade off.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Alex talks a little bit here about Elon Musk and how he's cured blindness.
unidentified
Interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah, and this has to do with the idea that DMT lifts the veil and stuff.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
dan friesen
He's going to be able to do that for you with a little implant.
jordan holmes
I don't know if that's true.
alex jones
Elon Musk has talked about it with his company.
This has been around for a long time.
I remember seeing documentaries on PBS when I was a kid about it where they could put wires into people's brains and start giving them limited sight.
But now with computer programs that can train the brain, they can do it very, very quickly.
Even if you never had sight before, they can wire somebody up and give them a sight if they had it before because you already have the patterns in your brain to have sight.
But if you never had sight, it's very hard.
But now they have computer programs where it goes in and it starts with a very easy dot that goes in.
unidentified
It goes in.
alex jones
Brain training on it, then adds more pixels.
And within six months, a year, people can see.
That's available to everybody.
They just haven't decided to deploy it to you.
And as Elon has said in talks, they could hook somebody up to those and show you infrared.
They could hook it up where you could actually see radioactive emanations.
They can, you can turn your brain up and then you can see everything.
Everything.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
So the first problem here is that blindness is caused by a ton of different conditions and circumstances.
So there isn't really like a quick fix like Alex is imagining.
This is just Musk's shit talking and Alex repeating it like a good media surrogate because that's what he is.
unidentified
That's what he does.
dan friesen
New and evolving therapies involve a certain amount of training the brain to process signals that come in from the eye, but a lot of vision loss has more to do with the cells in your eyes that recognize light.
Researchers have made a lot of progress with growing these cells in a lab setting, and that's exciting stuff, but it's not the music man ass stuff that Elon's doing.
He has a company called Blindsight, which has gone through no clinical trials yet, but he's done a fair amount of PR for it.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
It's cool, and it's not shady.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound shady at all.
dan friesen
Elon's plan is basically to ignore the eye part of the equation.
And implant electrodes that stimulate the cells in your visual cortex in order to show your brain pictures.
So it would probably rely on some kind of wearable or implantable camera where a person's eyes are.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
People who work in vision based medicine and research all pretty much believe that it could be possible that this could give someone the ability to see like blurry general shapes, but there's no way that we know enough about how to stimulate enough cells in the right way to give someone clear vision.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be crazy.
dan friesen
It's just so far beyond what's possible.
jordan holmes
The complexity required to understand it would be.
Beyond anything we.
It would require alien technology.
dan friesen
It is a more feasible gamble of a thing to think about the cells to implant in the eye.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's fair enough, though, that Elon could just broadcast whatever he wanted on those things into your head.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
Presumably, it would only be whatever you wanted to see, like infrared or heat vision.
unidentified
Presumably.
dan friesen
Feels like that might eventually become the premium package.
jordan holmes
There is going to be a lot of commercials.
dan friesen
You might have to pay for ad free eyeballs.
jordan holmes
Man, you should see.
dan friesen
Also, like.
Whatever he could project into your brain, you could just see now.
You are one decision away from being able to wear heat vision goggles all the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is that.
dan friesen
And if you make that decision, you will quickly learn why people don't walk around with heat vision goggles.
There's not magic stuff you have to do.
jordan holmes
There's nothing you can really do.
There's nothing.
I mean, things look bad.
It's easier to see in the dark.
So there's that.
dan friesen
Well, those are another goggle you could get.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's definitely that.
Well, there you go.
I guess we don't need fake eyes.
dan friesen
Also, shouldn't this be transhumanism?
Like, he should be really against this.
jordan holmes
Listen, I don't like wearing glasses, and I don't like wearing contacts.
unidentified
Mm hmm.
jordan holmes
But I'm not going to be the first to get new eyes.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to let enough early adopter types.
I didn't get the iPhone 1.
I got the iPhone 3.
I'm out here waiting until I get Eye Eyes 3.
dan friesen
Do you know what, though?
I would never.
I think.
Oh, man, no.
I don't think I ever would.
jordan holmes
You don't think so?
dan friesen
No.
I would get those cells, like that kind of a surgery.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I would never get robot eyeballs from Musk.
jordan holmes
You don't know what it's.
Well, I wouldn't get them from Musk, obviously.
You can't trust those eyeballs.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I don't know what other kind of competition there's going to be in that field.
jordan holmes
I mean, listen, I am assuming there will be an altruistic company giving out free government funded eyes.
dan friesen
I think the other folks are going to have a better shot.
Yes.
And one of the things that I saw brought up in one of the articles that I thought was a good point was that a lot of the people who are suffering from vision loss are later in life and they don't really know how to live blind.
Yeah.
And so a lot of them are depressed and despondent.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And someone like Musk coming along and being like, I will magically, I can magically fix your eyes.
jordan holmes
I'll give you money.
This has never happened in America before.
dan friesen
It's preying on people who are in like a really vulnerable position.
And I think that they have to know.
Like they have to know that this hype is.
jordan holmes
I mean, you can call, cold call, and try and get social security numbers, or you can do what Elon Musk is doing.
Apparently, one of them is legal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And encourage.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the eyes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're really just brain tissue, if you think about it.
Your eyes are really your brain.
jordan holmes
I strongly disagree with that, but okay.
alex jones
In fact, your eyeballs, when you are in utero as a tiny fetus, grow out of your brain.
They say the eyes are the one of the soul.
Your eyes are brain tissue.
Your eyes are stalks that grow out of the brain.
unidentified
Cool.
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alex jones
And so your unconscious and subconscious.
Sees everything.
But the DMT, the ayahuasca, goes in and lifts the veil.
But God doesn't get involved in free will.
So when you take DMT.
All that is going to appear to you is bad entities because they're violating a rule of God to try to manipulate us in the third dimension because we're babies, we're children, we're supposed to be allowed to chase the butterflies and run to the park metaphorically, metaphysically in this short lifetime, this test.
But they're there to sabotage and manipulate and get us off track.
dan friesen
Did you not have the free will to take the DMT in the first place?
Like the demons you see in those trips can't force you to do anything.
So I have no idea how they're violating God's free will rules.
I guess they can't appear to you unless you ask them to.
Like, but you took the drug that makes it so you can't see them.
Like, yeah, there's this is on you.
You did this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's you can say the name three times in a mirror or you can take DMT.
It's the same thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, they didn't ask you to do that.
And as best as I can tell, they were just minding their own business before you got high.
Like, yeah, showed up.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ, I'm Bloody Mary over here.
What are you doing?
dan friesen
If the free will rule is that you can't appear without being called upon, then God has broken that rule a bunch.
He just showed up in the Garden of Eden and asked, you know, Adam and Eve, like, hey, why are you naked?
jordan holmes
Hey, check this out.
dan friesen
Yeah, he didn't ask them to show up.
jordan holmes
Hey, bro.
dan friesen
God basically harassed Moses until he agreed to do what he asked.
I'm not sure any of the various prophets specifically asked for the vision they had, and Saul certainly didn't call on God.
jordan holmes
Hey, but, but, I'm a bush, a burden.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Saul was just out there like, Persecuting Christians.
And then on the road to Damascus, God appeared and was like, dude, what's your deal?
Yeah.
Like, he didn't ask.
There's no free will in that.
jordan holmes
Bro, turn around, get your shit together.
All right, I'm out.
dan friesen
This free will business doesn't really make sense.
And it's just a dumb way for Alex to impose his libertarian ideas on God.
God is super into small government, private property, and the non aggression principle.
jordan holmes
So weird.
So weird how he's exactly like what I want him to be, as opposed to me being conforming to him.
It's so crazy how this is.
Religion's great, really.
unidentified
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
It's magic.
jordan holmes
It is magic.
dan friesen
So earlier, Alex was talking about this representative, Burchett.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And how he's talking some shit about aliens.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so we get back to that here.
alex jones
But here is Congressman Burchett on Newsmax yesterday being asked about what former Congressman Gates is saying about animal or alien human hybrids and animal hybrids.
We know they've made those in the labs.
That's human hybrids.
Animal hybrids, which is alien, it's new.
They also made new synthetic life, that's alien.
So, think of the definitions here a little bit differently.
Think of them like the movie in the 90s, Species.
They got a radio telescope aimed out at a distant star, planetary system, and they get a message in human DNA of what to implant in a female egg.
And they do it.
And, uh oh, you just set up a new life form here that's going to attack you.
unidentified
Boom.
Uh oh.
alex jones
Trojan horses, beware gifts from the gods, as they're called.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Gods, but the ancients thought they were gods.
unidentified
Right.
But there is a God.
alex jones
There is a God above it all, and God tells us.
I've marooned this entity and his operatives here, and by the way, you're going to have to transcend it.
jordan holmes
What a dick.
What an asshole.
Not my job, man.
alex jones
Other populations, other peoples, other species have gone through being given this incredible free will, God like little g power that the Bible tells us we have.
We're not God, but we have little God power.
But you have to be tested, and you have to go through this process.
Will you destroy yourselves with technology?
Will you use it to suppress each other?
Or will you use it to transcend to a higher level?
Not at God's level, but God wants you to transcend to the higher heavens, the dimensions, the multivariate systems.
So, the third dimension is the bottom of physical matter.
It's the lowest level that has.
Physical containment, gravity.
This is the playpen.
This is the baby nursery.
This is first level.
dan friesen
So, very sadly, he does not describe what any of the other dimensions are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I imagine it's tough to know.
Yeah.
I imagine it's tough to know.
dan friesen
I mean, he's getting so specific about the third that I was like, all right, here we go.
jordan holmes
He really seems to know a lot about this third, but also, I don't think he knows anything about the third dimension at all.
dan friesen
But let's assume that the third dimension is a playpen.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Now what?
Who cares?
Well, how do you get out of the playpen?
If you really do get smart and figure it all out, do you just pop out of existence in the physical world or do you have to wait until you die?
While we're talking about it, who's outside the playpen?
Is it other people who figured out and popped out of physical reality or is it where you go after you die if you resist the DMT demon's influence?
So, this is a playpen, but also a research facility and a spiritual test.
Trump's Rebranding Strategy Fails 00:15:30
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
All of those things would seem to cast us in different roles where people in a playpen are having carefree fun.
People in a research facility are probably being experimented on, and people in a spiritual test are being judged for their actions.
So you can't really play because if you play, you're probably failing the test.
It's all mutually exclusive.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Because it's like, here's the thing, right?
I get what he's saying, but it comes down to the question does God fart?
You think, ah, God doesn't fart.
You wouldn't do that.
But then you've got to go, like, farting is funny, right?
Does God think it's evil?
Am I evil?
dan friesen
It's a byproduct of eating.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So, does God eat?
jordan holmes
I don't have to, but He has to.
And then you just get bored.
You know?
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that there's another question that this kind of thinking raises.
And that is like, hey, if this is the playpen, why are you here, Alex?
You seem to be above all this shit and you know everything and like God talks to you.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, you're kind of Jesus, right?
jordan holmes
It feels like He's more the marooned guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Not in his head.
So, all of that was supposed to be a setup for talking about playing this clip of Burchett.
jordan holmes
Burchett, yes.
dan friesen
And I will tell you that he is, he's just like, oh, if you saw what I saw, you'd never sleep.
jordan holmes
Okay, great.
dan friesen
I'm not suicidal.
No one's going to kill me.
jordan holmes
How is it not your responsibility?
If aliens are so fucking terrifying and powerful and cool, how is it that you're not your responsibility?
You're just a fucking congressperson.
You're not that big of a deal.
Who fucking cares?
Throw out all your alien knowledge.
What are they going to do?
Get in trouble?
There are aliens to protect you.
dan friesen
The funny thing, too, is that he's doing an interview on some show.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he starts by saying, I'm still in Congress, so I can't tell you what I saw.
Now let me tell you, you'd never sleep at night.
jordan holmes
Fuck off.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fuck off.
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
If you actually aren't going to say anything, shut the fuck up.
unidentified
Shut the fuck up.
dan friesen
Don't tell me how you're not going to kill yourself.
jordan holmes
Even if you're.
Yeah, that's crazy.
To even say the second part, if you saw what I saw, you would never sleep, is to admit either you're hiding it from us because you're a coward, or it's not real and you're a liar.
dan friesen
Yeah, and you're just trying to get attention.
Yep.
And that's probably close to what it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably more the latter.
But also, I would assume he's a coward, too.
dan friesen
But he's implying that there's aliens up in space with crafts and all that shit.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And Alex wants you to know that's bullshit.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
alex jones
So here's the congressman saying, just when he got briefed on the show two weeks ago, would curl your hair.
Now, I know most of what Congress is being given from all my research and sources have been proven to be accurate, like Dirt Journalist, Daniel Liss.
jordan holmes
Dirt Cheers.
unidentified
Bullcrap.
alex jones
The idea that there's all these aliens from trillions of miles away just flying around in tin cans doing all this no, that's not how it happens.
You always think of an alien invasion like that.
It's a cheesy movie that came out over a decade ago, but remember Pacific Rim?
It's entertaining, though.
jordan holmes
Just say you like the movie.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
alex jones
Spaceships from Mars, they interdimensionally come through a vortex in the core of the Earth.
And they're here to terraform and take over our planet.
I'm not saying that's real.
I'm saying think like that.
Okay, that's how this works.
dan friesen
So we should think like Pacific Rim.
Yeah.
I would like to just say to Alex I think that you maybe put too much stock into movies and then feel ashamed about how stupid you sound talking about how they're real.
alex jones
Yeah.
Big stuff's coming.
I can feel we're on the cusp of something, Daniel.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I appreciate it.
I appreciate that you feel the breakthrough coming.
unidentified
Well done, Dan.
Well done.
dan friesen
So, well done.
So, Alex, you know, the BS is the UFOs and the ships and that stuff.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
It's coming from inside the house.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The UFOs, that's our stuff.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
We made those ships.
jordan holmes
We're the only people who need to fly.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And the demons told us how to make it.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
alex jones
From the beginning, all this gray alien, tinker toy, flying saucers.
Flying around, shooting down airplanes and stuff.
That's advanced human technology given to them interdimensionally by the bad guys, built.
That's why suddenly it's more and more advanced.
Suddenly it's these little tinker toys that are falling out of the sky, having big problems, but still have amazing big problems.
unidentified
Big problems.
alex jones
Oh, the aliens suddenly have all these really advanced ships.
No, there are ships.
Almost all of them.
unidentified
Almost?
alex jones
The real aliens aren't flying around in ships, boys and girls.
They've mastered time and space, and I mean mastered it.
And those are the angels.
And there's the good ones, and there's the bad ones.
But the good ones will not intervene unless you seek it out and have free will and have the right reason for it.
The bad ones, snap your fingers, they'll show up.
So don't try it.
dan friesen
I love how Alex had to make that caveat there where the angels show up if you use your free will and you have a good reason to ask them something.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Now, if his listeners pray for an angel to come help them out and nothing happens, they can blame themselves for not having a good enough reason.
jordan holmes
It's a classic dodge and one of the best.
dan friesen
It's brilliant.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Um,.
So, yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
If he doesn't solve your problem, it's because you're not pious enough.
Definitely not because I am lying to you.
Please give me $50.
dan friesen
Now, all of these UFOs are ships that demons gave us the specs for in the spectral, ethereal realm.
jordan holmes
I know you think you understand this thing, but actually, you don't.
It's a lot like what you understand, but it's more and better because I think it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's weird how that works.
dan friesen
So, Burchett, Alex doesn't want to throw him out.
You know, like he doesn't want to be like this guy is evil.
He seems like he's probably a good man.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But maybe he's just got bad info.
jordan holmes
It's possible.
alex jones
I think he's a good man, but at the same time, is he being given this information?
But remember, Trump is going to go in and look at Fort Knox.
Demons do it.
unidentified
Demons.
alex jones
We're going to release all the Epstein files.
Todd Blanchard on TV and said they released them all.
They didn't.
It's a lie.
So it's all about keeping knowledge from the public saying we can't handle it when in truth we have corrupt elites fighting over the technologies and Information to control us.
But at the higher levels, the shadowy groups above the intelligence agencies and governments, the big corporations that really run it all, that you see evidence by the Epstein files, they know how to get in contact.
And it's just like in The Golden Child with Eddie Murphy, from what I've heard basically described by these people, is they don't need DMT, drugs, any of it.
They just get out their prayer mat, they sit down, and then the walls disappear, and they're getting their directives right there.
dan friesen
Do they need the prayer mat?
That seems unnecessary.
jordan holmes
That seems more like that pod that Vader was in.
dan friesen
So Alex has heard that devil worshipers can commune with demons, just like that Eddie Murphy movie, The Golden Child.
jordan holmes
It's really specific how many movies are important.
dan friesen
Maybe too many.
jordan holmes
Maybe too many.
Too many movies are important.
dan friesen
It's excessive on this episode.
jordan holmes
It is quite a few number of movies, almost as if he's doing a complete abdication of any kind of knowledge of what's going on at all.
dan friesen
I get that Alex is trying to say that maybe Representative Burchett means well, but is being fed disinformation about aliens.
But the two examples that Alex uses of disinformation that Trump used in the past are things that he absolutely bought into.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex said that Trump was going to release the Epstein files and that he was going to audit Fort Knox.
He can put on a little voice and mock the idea of someone buying those ideas, but it doesn't change that he was the one selling them.
Alex must have either believed Trump when he said he was going to release the files and audit the gold, in which case, Alex got tricked by an idiot and has the worst instincts on earth.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
Or he knew that was disinformation and decided to sell it to his audience anyway.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Regardless of what the truth is, like, no one has any reason they should take him seriously ever.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
If you, I'm not saying that you can't be mad at them, because we're all mad at them.
But if you are like, I think Trump is a good guy, you no longer get to tell me who you think the corrupt elites are.
You are no longer trustworthy.
dan friesen
Now, let me.
jordan holmes
You should just listen to me when I say somebody's a corrupt elite.
dan friesen
Let me take you a little bit further.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
If you told me that Trump was daddy and he was home and he was going to spank me.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Shut up.
jordan holmes
You should probably no longer speak anymore.
dan friesen
You have no ground to stand on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, how is Tucker feeling about his spankings?
Not good?
dan friesen
Daddy is mean.
jordan holmes
Daddy's mean?
Tucker doesn't like to.
You know, it's almost as though developing a society based upon a paternalistic point of view is actually a fucking dumb and idiotic thing to do.
dan friesen
Daddy's home and he's pissed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, no, he bombed Iran.
jordan holmes
Maybe you're an idiot.
Maybe you're just an idiot.
dan friesen
So, look, man, enough of the bullshit.
We're talking about aliens.
Let's get to the real world.
Alex has got to get into the war news.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
So, let me go over the war news here.
jordan holmes
War news.
alex jones
We are seeing more, let's just say this, incorrect information from President Trump.
That's a Blackhawk.
No, that's a.
Yeah, that's a Blackhawk.
unidentified
Does that have a pet?
alex jones
Blackhawk.
So there's a lot of this going on.
That's a Blackhawk.
dan friesen
That's a Blackhawk.
He's trying to identify a helicopter in a video that someone's playing.
unidentified
Why not?
dan friesen
So this is an editorial choice Alex is making where he's resisting saying that Trump is lying.
We are seeing more incorrect information from Trump.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Alex has already said that Trump is lying about this stuff, so I don't get what the upside of playing cute like this is.
Because he's already accused Trump of lying, it just comes off like him trying to hedge his bets and cover for a liar.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This looks worse than just committing to the fuck this guy.
He's lying about war.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But also, you know what?
I'll throw this out there.
There's a long tradition of that.
There's a long tradition.
You never heard like, no, it's from the WA.
Everything's going poorly.
Now watch this movie.
No, that's not how it worked.
No, they gave you like, everybody's doing great.
Give us some more money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then you watch the movie.
Right.
dan friesen
And I think that Alex has a long career and a long history of no one really forcing continuity on him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is that.
dan friesen
He doesn't have to deal with anything he said the day before.
jordan holmes
War's still going despite what I said the day before.
unidentified
Whoops.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
Tune in tomorrow.
There'll be an emergency.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So it turns out the war news is mostly about leftists shitting on Alex.
jordan holmes
How about that?
What a weird war.
alex jones
I'm not even here.
I don't want Trump to fail.
I didn't want Trump.
To go sideways.
I've seen the leftist talking point.
I don't have time to watch a lot of it, but I mean, all over TV, all over the internet, all the top internet talk show hosts.
jordan holmes
Top internet talk show.
alex jones
Millions of viewers are Alex Jones admits he's wrong.
Alex Jones admits Trump was always bad and he needs to come out and admit it's his fault.
No, we got a lot of good things done with Trump and shut down a lot of your evil agendas.
And did stop a lot of wars.
And now we're horrified that Trump's going sideways like you.
You guys are openly evil.
dan friesen
So, Alex is getting his stories mixed up because there aren't supposed to be leftists with millions of viewers online.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Americana populism is supposed to be the only thing that can actually draw a crowd.
But I guess Alex wouldn't feel very big or important if he said a bunch of losers with no audience were criticizing him online.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, we're the show that gives Alex unsolicited advice.
So, I'd like to explain the only way he could have played the current situation and come out ahead.
I feel comfortable revealing this now because it's too late.
And I don't think he could pull it off anyway.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
For all of his career, Alex has been a guy who's been aggressively opposed to the federal government.
And the biggest hurdle that he's been up against is that the government kind of worked pretty well.
It got a lot of shit wrong, it served the interests of the rich over the general public, and it waged a lot of war.
But in terms of functioning, it was pretty reliable.
There's a complacency that comes with that reliability.
And most people would be unwilling to rock the boat in a way that fundamentally changed the structure of government, taking power away from the federal government and giving more to the states because there was more to risk.
That's stability.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
There was a very small window where Alex could have come out and said that the last 10 years of his life were an act of desperation, trying to bring in the living embodiment of why federal power can't be allowed to be unchecked.
He could cop to lying constantly to promote Trump and explain that it was the only choice he had left to wake up the sheeple.
The Iraq war didn't cause a revolution.
The banker bailouts didn't cause a revolution, so the only thing that possibly could is actually bringing in a tyrant.
He could show remorse and he could effectively write off.
Any criticism of him from 2015 onward.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anytime anybody said that he should be held responsible for some lie that he told to promote Trump, he could say they were taking him out of context and it was part of a bigger picture.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It would be bullshit, but it would work on some people and it could give him enough breathing room to rebrand.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it would be a perfect thing for him to go away.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like he could drop a video explaining that, leave for a couple months and come back with a mask or something.
I don't know.
unidentified
Yep.
New character.
jordan holmes
Dark Alex.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would never support the dissolution of the federal government because all that would do is abandon people in various states to have their rights and labor protections taken away.
But I definitely don't view the position of the federal government the same way that I did in 2017.
I think it's more easily and dangerously corruptible than I had previously imagined.
And Alex's guy has shown that.
I think that if he owned that and pretended that he did it on purpose, he'd probably be able to trick a fair amount of people who are entertaining newer ideas.
About small government, libertarianism, and anarchy, into thinking, like, oh, this guy, wow, what a whoa, yeah, got us all fooled, he seems so on board.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they didn't have the poly market stuff.
They didn't have the betting stuff in 2017.
Otherwise, I would have fucking cleaned house right now.
dan friesen
Well, they did overseas, right?
Because Barnes was.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's right.
dan friesen
Barnes was doing a lot of pain and blood.
jordan holmes
I would have cleaned house.
Bummer.
dan friesen
You should have talked to Robbie.
jordan holmes
There's just.
Yeah, there's just no point in.
Yeah, what are you going to do?
Salem Media and Israel Ties 00:11:35
dan friesen
But I was thinking about that, and I do think that that's Alex's.
That would have worked.
jordan holmes
It would have worked enough.
It wouldn't have worked on the people it wasn't going to work on, anyways.
dan friesen
But neither is this.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Exactly.
This isn't going to work on anybody.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that the path that I described has the highest likelihood of possibly finding new customers.
Yeah.
Because I think that you would blow people's minds.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's the only way in to the info war.
jordan holmes
And people would, yeah.
And you can, like, he can identify how stupid everybody is already.
He can see that they're writing, like, oh, Alex finally turns on Trump.
Like, who fucking cares, right?
Get them to write some other shit.
Get them to write, like, Alex was fucking with us the whole time.
They'd love that shit.
They'd eat that shit up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, he could try and, he could say something around the way of, I have a hundred thousand D chests.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or what?
Something like that.
I was playing this all along in order to illustrate to you that this is so close.
jordan holmes
There's even clips that he could play of him knowing about Trump and all of that shit.
That he could be like, hey, listen, I warned you about this then, and then I decided, I made a conscious decision to.
Fuck all of you because fuck all of you.
dan friesen
But I did it as an act of going under deep cover in order to save all of you.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The whole thing.
dan friesen
He would be able to, like, have, like, you know, some kind of an act of, like, false contrition.
jordan holmes
It's as believable as anything he did the 10 years before that.
So why the fuck not?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
I think it would have sold.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, everyone's saying that he's ditching Trump because the numbers are down.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
The left is saying that Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly and we're all abandoning Trump because his approval rating's down.
And we just want to support somebody popular.
A lot of supported Obama if that was the case.
No, we want someone that saves the country and the world.
We want someone that reverses the leftist, globalist, satanic policies.
dan friesen
Alex said that Obama had record low approval rates.
jordan holmes
Listen, it doesn't matter.
dan friesen
But this actually gets to a key point.
I think that some people would be inclined to say that Alex is ditching Trump because Trump's numbers are down, but that's an oversimplification.
Alex is ditching Trump for two reasons.
The first is that he's been repeatedly and fundamentally humiliated by Trump in ways that the audience won't ignore anymore.
Alex can say Trump is going to release the Epstein files, and then when Trump doesn't, Alex's audience wonders if they're on the same page.
Alex can say that Trump isn't going to attack Iran, but when Trump then attacks Iran, Alex's audience knows damn well that they're not on the same page.
The illusion that Alex has any sway over the administration, and by proxy, Alex's audience has any sway over the administration, is gone.
He's not a useful figurehead for the Infowar anymore because he obviously doesn't give a shit about you or any of the things.
That you pretend to stand for.
The second is that Alex probably knows that Trump is about to do some flagrantly bad shit, and he needs to prepare to distance himself from it.
He's posting threats on social media to kill the entire civilization of Iran in one night, so it's hard to act like he's not threatening nuclear war, even for Alex.
Beyond that, he has to know that if he leaves office, he'll likely die in prison, so we have no idea what could happen if he's impeached or if we get to the 2028 election and he decides that he's not going anywhere.
Like, Alex is in a Position where he has to not be on board by that point.
jordan holmes
Here's, I'll tell you this Polly Market is not allowing you to write down end of American democracy in 2028.
unidentified
Interesting.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm, I'm really pissed off about that one because I would clean house.
dan friesen
Right.
And I think that Alex knows, like, based on what's happening, that he needs to be in the White House or away from it when the point of no return comes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's growing ever closer and he's not getting in the door.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
A lot of the short, The shit that Trump did up till now has been kind of fun for Alex because there was a plausible counterweight in the form of the Democrats and the ghost of the Constitution.
Now it's not fun because there doesn't appear to be any power within the United States that can check Trump.
So the only thing that could do that seems to be a power outside of the United States.
And that means war.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And Alex doesn't want to be on the side of America in a war.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But he doesn't want to be on the side against America.
unidentified
Right.
Yeah.
dan friesen
None of Trump's actions have been deal breakers for Alex, though.
This is.
Important to understand.
He was fine going along with covering up Epstein and overthrowing Maduro, and he would have been fine with bombing Iran if it had not gone poorly.
His change in tone is caused by feedback and negative reaction to the stuff Trump is doing, but the approval rating is the wrong metric to act like he cares about.
It's the pill sales.
He can't maintain the audience and keep up with Trump.
That's it.
unidentified
Money.
jordan holmes
It's money.
The idea, I mean, I like, I was thinking about this in the context of the protests, which are delightful.
But if you're not fucking with their money, they don't care.
Like, that's just the, like, no matter how loud and like, where are all the, if you're not fucking with their money, they're not, they don't care.
dan friesen
I think in a lot of cases, that's probably true.
jordan holmes
That's, that's like, that's a, that's the message, you know?
dan friesen
And to be clear with Alex, it's, it's money and like analogs of money.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So, like Twitter attention and that kind of stuff that sort of vaguely translates to money is kind of in the same way.
jordan holmes
Powers, money, you know, all of those things, all of that influence is what money is in a way.
dan friesen
And Trump's fucking with that now.
jordan holmes
Trump is really fucking with that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's positioned Alex in a place where he can't really move forward with him.
jordan holmes
I mean, but I just, I can't do it anymore.
How do these people still do it?
How is it that you've still got that template around that, like, I would just hang on to it?
If I was a journalist, I would hang on to the.
Alex turns on Trump template and just have a mad libs for whatever's going on that day.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
Like, how do you not go, Alex is lying again?
He'll change his mind in a few years.
Don't trust this motherfucker.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
The headline should be, yeah, like, it doesn't matter.
Or there shouldn't be a headline.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
This is nothing meaningless.
These people are, everything they're saying is meaningless.
What's happening today is meaningless.
dan friesen
It's so appealing to have the, like, delight in what appears to be, like, a meaningful downfall.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But it's not meaningful.
jordan holmes
It is not meaningful, and what you are getting is empty.
alex jones
Awful calories, yeah, and uh, you know, you were saying it's all about money, and uh, kind of, yeah, Tucker has done what he's done out of a feeling of responsibility, not for clicks, not for access.
Tucker isn't speaking out against the president because that's popular.
Leftists don't buy anything, they don't buy your nicotine pouches, they don't buy your supplements.
The left's not my audience.
I'm not catering to them.
I cater to the truth.
I don't cater to quote right wing or anything.
I just go, what's the most accurate thing?
How do I get it right?
And I say it.
dan friesen
That accidental reveal almost makes you feel bad.
It's easy to claim that you don't cater to a specific audience in order to sell stuff, but that image is hard to maintain when you demonstrate that you're clearly aware that you're only able to sell stuff to the side that you weirdly always take.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex and Tucker know that they aren't going to pick up any left leaning customers, which is why they have to chase the right wing audience.
Who are increasingly done with Trump.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And they need to follow wherever these people go and pretend that they're leading them.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is wild to really dig into how many of these people think that they're the ones who are the thought leaders and all that shit.
And reality is they just chase after what a bunch of people are thinking.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And maybe there are contributions they make in terms of thought leadership, but regurgitating stuff from the smaller people into the larger mainstream, really.
Well, with a bullhorn.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex talks a little bit about the radio.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And how these big radio networks are owned by Israel.
alex jones
They're the ones that are influencers.
They're the ones that get paid to say what they say.
And by the way, it's on the right wing, too.
You know, coming up, there was huge criticism by the Salem Media Company.
It's powerful talk radio block and multimedia.
They got some good hosts on there.
I'm not going to say they're all bad because they're on there.
But they've been calling Carlson Katarlson and saying he's a foreign agent.
He should be put in prison.
A bunch of them.
And it turns out that Salem, I didn't do this 20 years ago, but specifically, and the director of it, all of them are on huge contracts to the Israeli government.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
And Israel said six months ago, we're going to increase our funding in the U.S. in the Eight Front War to pay for propaganda.
So there they are calling Tucker a foreign agent.
And they call me that and all this other ridiculous crap.
And you're literally Salem.
And I've got all the documents here.
dan friesen
So I don't know what it even means to be on the Israeli payroll anymore, but it's no secret that Salem Media has a relationship with the state of Israel.
They've organized annual Stand With Israel tours since 2015.
The 2015 tour was a 10 day trip.
It was headlined by radio host Mike Gallagher and Joe Piscopo.
None of this is at all shocking or even really that scandalous.
It was reported on about six months ago that Salem had filed with Farah because.
They had accepted $6 million from the Israeli government, but it's important to understand what happened here.
And the fact that we know this because they filed with the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
So, Salem's chief strategy officer was Brad Parscale, who was Trump's head of digital operations during the 2016 election and then campaign manager in 2020.
Parscale was the person who got the $6 million from the Israeli government who registered with Farah because he's an executive at the media organization who's being paid by a foreign government to advocate for their interests.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's not controversial or news to say that Salem media has a relationship with Israel, but the particular news Alex is talking about is a story about one of Trump's very close associates from back in the time when Trump was supposed to have been cool, who is the one who took the money.
Alex doesn't like Salem because they didn't syndicate his show back in the day, but also because he thinks that Mark Levin works for them.
He doesn't realize that Levin's on Westwood One, which is owned by Cumulus, who also didn't syndicate out his show.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
But I understand why he'd be better.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, listen, I feel like we're in a too old to begin the training kind of situation, right?
Like, if you're trying to tell me about corporations controlling syndicated media as a problem now, fucking too late, buddy.
Too late.
We're way past when you should have noticed that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I tried to protest back in the days of Jack FM.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Come on, buddy.
That ship sailed.
dan friesen
Yep.
I mourned the death of radio.
Alex killed it.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
Economic Reset and Minimum Wage 00:03:39
dan friesen
So, Alex, you know, there's a lot of people who are saying that, like, you're only turning on Trump because you care about money.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And that's true.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
But then Alex interprets care about money in a way that makes it not true.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And it is horrifying that that is happening, this is openly going on.
And when I say this, people say, oh, you just care about money.
What does that mean?
jordan holmes
What does that mean?
alex jones
The globalists know we're on the edge of bankruptcy as a country.
They want us to go into the great reset, like a third world country under their control.
Trump has a great recovery plan that has a great shot of turning around, but not if you close the Strait of Hormuz, as we warned over a year ago.
And now it's done it, and it's creating a shockwave that most economists think will already mess up Trump's recovery currently, but it keeps going for sure.
It's about economic bondage.
Economic freedom is about economic mobility.
You know the old song, I owe my soul to the company store.
Whether you were a sharecropper in Alabama or East Texas, or whether you were in West Virginia, a coal miner, you had to live basically on a company rented shack.
You had to buy your food from the company store as part of your contract so they could gouge you and everything else.
And that's how they controlled you.
It's slavery by another name, indentured servitude.
jordan holmes
That's why I hate communism.
alex jones
That's why, yeah, I'm worried about the money, about our country going bankrupt.
And that's why, with horror, I didn't want to criticize Trump too much.
I mean, I'd say the bad stuff he was doing to get him to correct because I was looking at all the good stuff and saying, you know, we've got to keep that going.
It's night and day.
The Democrats.
dan friesen
This is classic weenie stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is very weenie.
dan friesen
So, Alex is intentionally conflating two types of caring about money.
One is wanting everyone to have more economic freedom, which is a nice concern to have.
Alex has the other kind, though, which is that he knows that no one on the left buys his shit.
So, if he doesn't get his act together and find some new way to entertain the avant garde Nazis on social media, he's going to go broke.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Company stores are a bad idea and mostly only thrived in the period before people had wider access to cars.
So they couldn't really get anywhere else to shop anyway, but there's no reason that Alex should be against them.
If he loves the free market, then who's the government to say that a company can't offer their employees credit at their stores that can come out of their paychecks?
This is a free arrangement between individuals.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I know it sounds kind of crazy to say that companies should be allowed to pay their employees in special fake money that's only good at their stores, but Alex is a firm believer in a person's right to enter whatever contract they want.
That's why there shouldn't be a minimum wage, because it makes it illegal for someone to offer their labor to someone for cheaper than the minimum.
It kills competition.
unidentified
Mm hmm.
dan friesen
If an employee agrees to do a job that pays in monopoly money, they must be doing that because it's in their self interest to do it, just like the person who would accept a job for 75 cents an hour.
jordan holmes
Sounds true.
dan friesen
Company stores are a great example of how the free market doesn't actually exist, because exploitation is always a factor.
And they illustrate how, unless people can collectively bargain, labor always has a disadvantageous position compared to the owners.
And also, Alex is in favor of Elon Musk owning Mars bases.
Political Debt on Medicare Reform 00:11:09
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Do you think there's going to be a lot of diversity and competition in commerce in moon bases and Mars bases?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, this is the thing that's going to happen, and it's going to be the worst and most annoying thing that happens in the next year.
And then after that, people will go back to doing what they do.
But, like, I'm turning on Trump, but I am not at all changing anything that I believe ideologically whatsoever.
dan friesen
I was totally right the whole time.
unidentified
I was totally right.
jordan holmes
Now it's Bad, but that's not my fault.
I was still right.
I was always right.
Now I admit, right now things aren't good.
So I'm with you.
But then the moment I can't, the moment I get the chance to not be with you, I'm gone.
This is bullshit.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
It's the most annoying bullshit ever.
dan friesen
I mean, it's just a different flavor of that Glenn Beck apology to her that people fell for.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And I don't think anyone's going to fall for Alex's version of it.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I think everyone's going to fall for it.
jordan holmes
There's going to be a lot of versions that get.
dan friesen
Some people could be more successful than others.
jordan holmes
There are going to be a lot of people who are successful.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Trump, you know, he said some things.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And maybe one of them was really bad.
unidentified
Oh.
alex jones
I've got to get really mad at Trump.
I've got to get on his ass and I've got to get my huge audience of activists who I know agree with me.
The audience is wanting me to push harder and I agree.
Because letting Trump continue down this road is not good.
And then statements like, well, we know we can't help fund Medicare and Medicaid anymore.
We've got to worry about war.
And then the new budget.
Cuts a bunch of that because it's got to go to the war.
unidentified
Shockwave.
alex jones
Well, we should get rid of Medicare and Medicaid.
It is communism.
Yeah, but you've got to wean people off, and it's political debt to do that.
And if we're going to give trillions to these wars and crap, we can give billions to old people.
Cut the illegal aliens off.
unidentified
Fuck off.
alex jones
But we've got a bunch of people who don't know how to take care of themselves when they're old and sick and disabled.
We'll get to them last.
We'll phase it out.
You don't cut that off.
Plus, you lose the midterm saying that.
dan friesen
This is simultaneously desperate and refreshingly honest.
The GOP always wants to cut social welfare spending and increase war budgets, but everyone knows that Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security are incredibly popular and are keeping much of the country alive.
So it's very taboo to just come out and admit that you want to slash it.
The GOP relies on a lot of voters who are on the older side, and there's a lot of polling about how they care a lot about these programs not being destroyed.
So it's always been considered kind of political suicide to just say it.
Yep.
They all have to lie about their intentions because they know that.
They would lose a ton of support if they told people what they're actually voting for.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
On a very basic level, Alex is acknowledging that the only way the political positions he wants are going to win in an election is if they lie about what they want to do.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that's true.
I think he's right.
jordan holmes
It is nice of him to remind us because it's very hard for us to understand and remember this because they're very good at what they do.
But everybody voting in an election wants the exact same thing.
dan friesen
There's a lot more overlap than people think.
jordan holmes
Tons of overlap.
It is just.
Whose bullshit you are buying at any given point in time.
And that's kind of the thing.
dan friesen
That's a big part.
That's at least a swing, you know, of it.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I've got to go ahead and say, fuck them.
Fuck you.
Yeah.
Get rid of Medicare, Medicaid.
Get rid of all of it.
You guys earned it.
Too bad.
Too bad.
This is your daddy talking.
Time to spank you.
dan friesen
But also, Alex can't be like, we'll phase it out.
I'm principally opposed to this.
This is communism.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I want to destroy it, but we both stole it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what are you talking about?
dan friesen
We're ripping people off.
jordan holmes
That's bullshit.
Yeah, that's cowardly bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
dan friesen
Own the position.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
I want to get.
Now I want to get rid of it because you don't want to.
I want it gone now.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that Alex has gotten a little bit less willing to, you know, stake things that are very, very unpopular since the Ron Paul days.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
Like Ron Paul, God bless him, said a number of things.
jordan holmes
He said some unpopular shit.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
He advocated for a lot of positions that were like.
Well, that's just crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That'll kill a lot of people.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, you know what?
Fuck them.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
On principle.
jordan holmes
Here we are.
Now we're here.
dan friesen
So I would ask you to imagine, bring into your head the picture of Trump as a horse.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I don't like calling Trump a liar.
I have fought.
I have paid.
I have been through hell.
And we've gotten so much done with him.
But he's going sideways.
And it'd be like a horse you had for 10 years, your favorite horse, you're into horses, sweet horse, smart horse, fun horse, feed it carrots, feed it apples.
And then one day you're sitting there brushing it, and the horse just turns around and bites you right on the nose and bites half your nose off.
Horses do that.
And you're just sitting there, blood pouring out.
You don't kill the horse, you just sell it.
Well, Trump's an important horse because he can destroy the world.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
And so he just basically bit us for no reason.
dan friesen
So, the problem with this metaphor is that the only reason Trump was their favorite horse was that he was biting people constantly, and they thought it was funny to watch people get bit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
For years, the horse biting people wasn't an issue, but now they got bit, and all of a sudden, horses biting people is something that needs to be taken very seriously.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, no, my nose.
You have a biting horse.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You love it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
So, let's see.
Let's take the count on previous Republican presidents who have lied us into a war.
We got that one, we got the one before that.
We got the one before that.
The one before that.
unidentified
Two of them are lower.
jordan holmes
And the one before that.
Yep.
So five for five, right?
If two of them are in the same family.
dan friesen
Five for fighting.
jordan holmes
Five for, yeah, there we go.
Five for $5.
unidentified
Footlogged.
No.
dan friesen
So Alex has finally had enough.
Trump is saying that he's going to get rid of Medicare before the midterms.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
Totally destroying the Republicans' chances of winning.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
So he must have dementia.
jordan holmes
There we go.
alex jones
Trump requests $1.5 trillion for military spending and says, sorry, can't help with Medicare and Medicaid.
If you're going to do that, then at least don't say it.
unidentified
Oh, it's a chest.
alex jones
No, it's what he calls not caring is what I call early onset dementia.
dan friesen
All of a sudden, Trump's straight shooting is a sign of dementia?
I thought part of the allure he had as a politician is he told it like it is.
Like when he said he knew that Hillary was corrupt because he paid her off in New York.
That wasn't dementia.
That was just a guy cutting through the bullshit.
But now he's accurately articulating the right wing position on government spending, and Alex thinks he's got dementia all of a sudden?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And again, Alex's problem isn't that Trump is increasing military spending and cutting social welfare programs.
The problem is that he's saying it out loud.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
The media surrogates are supposed to have plausible deniability about this stuff because war is super unpopular and Social Security is super popular.
It's really, really funny to realize that at the end of the day, he just wants Trump to be more presidential.
Yep.
Just be a fucking politician, guy we voted for as a protest candidate.
jordan holmes
Just lie to us.
Tell us it's going to be all right while you steal and rob us all blind.
That's what we want.
We want to be feeling comfortable while you fucking rob us.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's all we want.
dan friesen
What you're doing is too difficult for us to work with as talk show hosts.
Yep.
You don't have any real accountability left.
You don't really have to ever have an election again.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
You're never going to get impeached.
And you can probably.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
I hope they try.
That would be the funniest day.
That would be the funniest day.
dan friesen
But, like, he's apparently just going to be rich forever.
But someone like Alex, he actually, like, you know, eventually the money is going to run up.
You know, he needs public approval.
And he can't spin, we're going to put all of your medication money into a war.
He can't do that.
jordan holmes
No, that's usually not going to be popular.
dan friesen
It sucks.
jordan holmes
I think we should actually.
Shoot him into space.
Like, and I mean this genuinely.
I think it is a good idea for us to shoot, I put him into a rocket with whatever life support you want.
I don't give a shit.
And just fire it into space.
That way, there's a symbol that no one can ever do this shit again.
Otherwise, we'll fire you into space.
dan friesen
Send him to Mars and tell him he gets to be the Elon.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
It's all yours, buddy.
Land as nice as you like.
dan friesen
Well, I think that that's costly.
And I think that.
You know, it's a difficult thing to pull off.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex has a counter suggestion, which is that, you know, Trump should probably just take a day off.
Take a little me day.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Maybe pray a little bit.
jordan holmes
Maybe pray a little bit.
alex jones
When I've been working 20 hours, it's time to pray.
At 50 something, I feel like I got, you know, I'm kind of like, ooh, ooh.
And people, my family said, you remember what you did last night?
It wouldn't be something bad, but I'd like say something or do something.
I don't remember that.
No drinking, no nothing.
Just exhausted.
Work 20 hours.
Do not make good decisions when I've been working 20 hours.
He's 79.
He's Superman.
Nobody's not saying he's got a personal nuclear reactor running him, but he ain't Superman in the real world.
I mean, you call him Superman, but not really Superman.
Trump should really take a few days off and just pray and just think about this.
Pray for President Trump.
And I'm dead serious when I say that.
Because we had repudiated the left.
There's a global awakening.
Populism is winning.
We're in the fourth turning.
Great things are happening, and I want to salvage Trump.
I'm going to criticize him.
I'm going to give it to him with both barrels, but it's from a place of love for all of us, including him.
These people that were never Trumpers and said, damn Trump, screw Trump, I hate Trump, put Trump in prison.
That's all his best buddies now.
Yeah, we're running out of fertilizer, folks.
dan friesen
Who cares if you want to salvage Trump?
Why?
Why do you want to?
This is nonsense.
unidentified
Just.
jordan holmes
Fucking, for God's sakes, everybody, get into the Oval Office, shut the doors and the windows, hit him in the head with a paperweight, and then call, oh, he's sick.
And then just we move on with our fucking lives.
Everybody will go, oh, thank God.
And then we'll go.
We'll just go.
You can go back to being a piece of shit who's racist and all that shit.
We just got to start from somewhere.
We just hit him in the head with a paperweight.
Something.
dan friesen
I mean, it's cheaper than the space shuttle idea.
More expensive probably than the prayer.
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jordan holmes
Yeah, that's definitely true.
dan friesen
So Alex is still the most fiscally responsible option.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and in the White House, the paperweights are going to be, you know, they're not just like a snow globe somebody bought from the airport.
dan friesen
No, you have to replace it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Might be an antique.
jordan holmes
It's probably got George Washington's fingerprints on it.
unidentified
Mm hmm.
dan friesen
Which you could frame him.
I mean, if you got that fingerprint onto the.
jordan holmes
I think, honestly, you should have to hit him with something, with like an artifact from the Founding Fathers.
Like, this is George Washington's sword.
We are using it to fucking prune the Tree of Liberty, for fuck's sake.
dan friesen
Yeah, who would you use?
jordan holmes
The problem is nobody killed King George.
That should have been how the revolution ends.
And then we keep something as a memento.
dan friesen
Yeah, that, I mean, it would strike a certain amount of fear, I think.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No kings.
I mean it.
I fucking mean no kings, my man.
dan friesen
We'd never wash the blade.
jordan holmes
No, we keep it there.
dan friesen
So, look, we're joking around here about killing kings and what have you, but Alex, he's talking about.
You know, the idea of ground troops in Iran.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And he reads a headline that is, his take on it is deeply disturbing.
alex jones
Iran beefs up defenses, recruits children as it prepares for ground war.
And idiots go, oh, kids.
You think a 12 year old, 13 year old with a grenade launcher and a machine gun that's trained on it is they're worse than adults historically because they just are fearless.
Child soldiers are nothing to turn your nose up on.
But people who don't study war think it's a joke.
dan friesen
I think Alex says the wrong take on child soldiers.
jordan holmes
Does he think I think it's a joke in the sense like, ha ha ha, can you believe this child would have a gun?
dan friesen
Yeah, we could.
Any adult could beat a child if they both have a gun.
jordan holmes
I think he really does not understand how we feel about child soldiers generally.
dan friesen
And he's like the guy who would do Save the Children rallies and all that shit.
Like, he shouldn't be arguing on the axis of should you be afraid of child soldiers?
jordan holmes
You gotta fear those fuckers.
Those people don't even give a shit, man.
You and I are afraid of mortality.
They don't know it exists.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He should be disgusted just by the fact that this exists.
That's a prospect.
jordan holmes
That's supposed to be like, here's what you've missed.
You think it's funny.
Those are super soldiers.
You are Kurt Russell's ass out there if you think this is going to go okay.
dan friesen
Children don't have a governor, they don't know when to stop.
They have no souls.
Man, what a wild episode.
What a fucked up asshole.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Trump, he said that shit about Medicare and all the war economy and stuff.
He said some other things, too, that Alex is having a tough time with.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
I got a thousand data points times a thousand, but let's just.
You're smart too.
unidentified
Come on.
alex jones
Trump is actually the president right now, but if you can influence him, you get him to do bad things.
He even said yesterday, you know, I have evil people who can manipulate me, and God, you're evil.
He's like, you know, you're evil as shit, but well, then you suck my weenie.
Sorry.
He didn't really say it.
You know what I mean?
Metaphysically, sorry.
Get the clip.
Clip 31 yesterday.
It doesn't sound real.
And I'm on the show saying Trump is influenced by evil people.
He can be manipulated, and they go, They go, boss, you didn't look at your full list.
I didn't even see the clip.
They go, he says that.
I said, who's he saying it to?
And they go, we think it's Levin, which it was Levin later we learned.
And it's just like Twilight Zone music is cute in my head.
I love people who are nice to me, even if they're bad people.
I'll do anything for them.
jordan holmes
It is the most perfect reference.
It should be Twilight Zone music you're hearing.
You are hearing the music of be careful what you wish for.
That's like 40% of all Twilight Zone episodes is just, hey, I bet you wished for this thing, and now you wish you hadn't.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's the fantasy island of now getting treated by Trump like he treats everyone.
jordan holmes
Now you figured it out.
Congratulations.
dan friesen
He's run out of other people to spank with his belt.
unidentified
Because he's home now.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that is right up there with I like to hang out with losers.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Bad people who are nice to me.
I love being around them.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
They can get me to do anything.
jordan holmes
He might as well just be like, hey, you got to give it up to the Somali Pirates.
dan friesen
Hey, one of my dear, dear friends is Roger Stone and Jeffrey Epstein because they were nice to me.
They're pieces of shit, but they were real nice to me.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Can you believe people thought he was.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Good times.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex comes back from break.
And he's feeling honest.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's an honest mood where he talks about honesty.
alex jones
I want the listeners and viewers who I respect and I appreciate to know you got a 100% commitment from me to tell you exactly what I think the truth is and nothing else.
But I don't do it for you, I do it for God.
When I tell the truth in my soul, I feel warm and good and close to God.
When I even war game sometimes, Is it best not to say this for the greater good?
In justifies the means, I feel the Holy Spirit start pulling away a little bit.
And I'm like, ooh, no, just do what's right.
That's the most sophisticated thing.
Don't think about what it's going to do.
Doing the right thing is always the right thing.
May not be at the moment, may be painful, but in the end, it's the right thing to do, and things turn out better if you do.
I have not done a good job today.
I've done a good job covering the news about the real stuff here at the Operation.
jordan holmes
I hate him so much.
alex jones
But plugging.
If I plug once an hour to a good plug, we have money to run the operation.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
You said you hate him way too early.
You didn't know another haymaker was coming.
unidentified
Wow, that was a one-two.
Yeah.
Damn.
Wow.
dan friesen
So the point Alex is trying to make is that he's always honest and he doesn't do that strategic communication stuff.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
God would literally make him feel bad if he pretended to have one position because he knew that his real position was unpopular.
Yeah.
But repeatedly on this same episode, he's complained about Trump being too honest about his desire to cut Medicare.
Yep.
So, like, what is it, dude?
jordan holmes
Do as Trump does and not as I say.
unidentified
Wait.
Hmm.
jordan holmes
Or, yep.
Actually, that one does make more sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think this is stupid.
It's bad.
Pretty nakedly manipulative.
jordan holmes
The idea of him.
I mean, see, this is the problem with any kind of cosmic entity.
Whatever you believe they are or are not capable of.
If there is something that exists out there with the probability of destruction via blasphemy, this dude's gone.
dan friesen
Well, sure, but I think that maybe this divine force doesn't intervene and they're just sitting up there like, holy shit, when he dies, it's going to be bad.
unidentified
But do you see?
dan friesen
Maybe it's a waiting thing.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
But with a guy like this, not intervening is the intervening.
You know what I mean?
Not getting this guy out of our hair is saying, check this out.
See what happens with this fucker, you know?
So that's the problem with cosmic entities.
dan friesen
Arguably, you could flip this around and say that not smiting him is a test of your faith.
jordan holmes
Is a test of my faith?
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
Because you have to live in a world where this guy doesn't have cosmic consequences.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Maybe?
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
Oh, that works.
dan friesen
So Alex realizes that Pam Bondi has been fired as the attorney general, and the acting attorney general is his arch nemesis.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I'm going to skip past that clip because it's uneventful and he's just disappointed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'll happen.
Oh, sorry.
I just thought of the book of Job, like the idea of the book of Job being me not getting tortured or anything like that.
No, no death or anything.
I just have to watch this fucker be fine.
That is torture.
That's a solid torture.
dan friesen
It's pretty close to your life.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a pretty good one.
unidentified
Well done.
dan friesen
Thanks.
jordan holmes
Well done, Ironic God.
dan friesen
So, Ironic God is another twist for you.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
I thought it was a little bit suspicious.
Alex bringing up, like, this Gilgamesh stuff and all this nonsense.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're going to talk for two hours about the creation of man.
jordan holmes
Seems strange.
dan friesen
It turns out this is just more brokered programming.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck.
Of course it is.
dan friesen
It's just Dark Journalist.
jordan holmes
You son of a bitch.
God damn it.
dan friesen
So, Dark Journalist is on.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he clearly sent Alex these things.
jordan holmes
Talking points?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex has sort of seeded the field for the crops to grow now that Dark Journalist is here.
I think that Alex really doesn't like him, and it's pretty funny.
alex jones
But I'll tell you a story I haven't told.
It was right before J6, like a month before we're having a rally, half a million people march.
The day before it or so, I'm walking down the street to go to a restaurant with my wife and crew.
And I'm not somebody that ever really has fear since I've been an adult.
And there's like a black SUV 50 yards ahead, and three or four people come out in like black trench coats.
And I'm walking 50 yards, getting closer as they're talking.
And I've never had palpable fear shoved me back.
My wife wasn't paying attention.
The security guys weren't really like, I revolted in fear.
And I looked at these people as they got in the car, and they were like, I'm not people.
I swear to God, this is true.
Never told a story.
Like, looked like professional basketball players, but they were like seven feet tall.
The biggest was like seven feet, the other was like six or something.
And I looked, they literally had like vampire ears, white skin, and the guy turned like a pig nose.
And he had this, he had a, you know, classic hat on, whatever gangster had.
And they look and duck into the car.
And I was like frozen.
My wife's like, what's going on?
I was like, uh, uh, uh, that's a true story.
Like, it literally hit me like a fear.
unidentified
I don't normally feel it.
alex jones
I felt like revolted.
I was scared.
That's a true story.
So, the only time I saw anything like Men in Black was in DC, broad daylight.
Swear to God, I saw it.
@darkjournalist
It's interesting how it's like a reality disruption, also the fear and the energy thing that you're talking about.
dan friesen
So, Dark Journalist talks for a little bit, and then Alex keeps interrupting him, like, Yeah, but what about the guys I saw?
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on.
Play, play the game.
Play with me.
dan friesen
Dark Journalist even explains this group of people who looked kind of vaguely like Asians, who are shorter, and they are the people that are often considered to be the Men in Black.
And Alex is like, what about my guys that will talk?
jordan holmes
Play with me.
I'm a big child.
Play with me.
I'm allowing you here.
dan friesen
And Dark Journalist is doing basically everything right, except two things.
One, he's not playing.
And then two, he's saying no question about it to every single thing Alex says.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
And I think he's getting annoyed.
I think Alex is very annoyed with this guy.
jordan holmes
That's annoying.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Dark Journalist believes that.
Many of these people, like Representative Burchett and some of these other folks who are coming out and talking about UFOs, they may be a limited hangout.
unidentified
Okay.
@darkjournalist
This is part of a program, too.
When things start to get hot and heavy, you look at people like Burchett, Burleson, and Luna.
They've all been brought forward as the UFO people, right?
For some reason, they're congressional people who talk about UFOs.
Now, there's no real interesting reason in the background why they should, but even Gates was in that program as well.
So there's something in that loop.
I know there's a Florida connection because Rubio also talked about the UFO file.
So, there's something in the root of all this where they're trying to say something in the background is saying there's a whole wave of this technology that's coming in.
We're going to reveal it.
alex jones
And Vance is positioning himself as that.
unidentified
He is.
@darkjournalist
There's no question about it.
He's supposed to be the first who's the one who can talk openly about it to a new generation.
And the only thing I think is fascinating about what he's doing is calling it a demon.
You see, if you're a VP and you call UFOs demons, you are really, you know, that is a totally thing about national security.
It's taking this guy's idea, where is he coming from by saying UFOs are demons?
You know, so when I think about it, wait, what?
alex jones
That's been war game, that's been planned.
So, in your opinion, why is he doing that?
@darkjournalist
I think what they're trying to do, they're going to reveal UFOs and they want to take the Christian audience, which is generally will look at this and say, you know, it's outside of Christian purview with the UFO file.
But that's not actually true, but that's how they view it.
And they say, we're going to be able to pull this in by saying, hey, they're interdimensional devils.
We'll just pull them in this way.
And that's how they're a threat.
And therefore, we have a war office.
We're fighting demons.
dan friesen
Alex believes that they're interdimensional demons.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
One of them attacked Tucker in his sleep.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
What the fuck is going on?
jordan holmes
We're at cross purposes here.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
I mean, I appreciate your fucking hard sci fi nerdy bullshit.
I respect that.
That's great.
But you got to understand we're working in an also ethereal kind of, more sandboxy kind of sci fi with the heavy fantasy element.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We're more YA.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Vampires.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that this is the third reason Alex does not like Dark Journalist, which is I think.
There's something in his terms that are, I'm not into religion.
And I think that maybe people who have religious beliefs are dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, he's exactly saying that.
We have to trick the rubes.
We're using him as a front piece to trick the rubes into accepting that demons are actually aliens and it's totally fine to be a Christian and so forth.
dan friesen
Have a war on the aliens who are demons.
Yeah, JD Vance is the limited hangout aspect of this that's normalizing this within Christian ideas, which is what Alex is doing too.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Oops.
So Alex asks him, like, All right, man.
Who are the alien groups?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I know there's like bug people.
unidentified
Sure.
And all that.
jordan holmes
Spider beings.
unidentified
Who do we got?
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Let me ask you this from your research, not getting into speculation, but just generally what's thought, because you have all these whistleblowers on talk shows.
Oh, I met with the reptoid, I met with the, but they threatened to kill me, but I'm like, it's obviously fake and sin.
But looking at this versus interdimensional versus visitors versus whatever, what are the known, like, who do we, who is it supposedly Eisenhower met with, or what is it?
@darkjournalist
Well, I think you have off world visitors.
I don't think there's any question about that.
But at the same time, if you go deep into it, you're going to find the Atlantean explanation for so much of the world.
alex jones
Well, I agree with you that it is actually a real breakaway civilization.
The globalists say they're going to create high tech reservations, keep us like animals at an agrarian level, and that the earth will just be like a nature preserve, as Jeff Bezos said.
Well, that already happened.
unidentified
I agree.
alex jones
They're humanoid, whatever.
It's breakaway humans.
That's what most people I talk to say it is that basically are now.
Use us as a form of entertainment or body parts, or they still need the old to control the new, or there's some fetish keeping us around.
That this isn't aliens.
This is what we hear about with all the ancient cultures, going back to all the ancient texts.
Is that what you're saying?
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dan friesen
I hope that it comes through in this, but he really hates this guy.
Yeah.
Like, he lets him talk for a couple seconds and then he's like, fuck this, I'm going to talk.
jordan holmes
You are so boring.
unidentified
You are so boring.
Bored!
jordan holmes
I am bored by you!
unidentified
Yes.
Woo!
Boring!
dan friesen
It's a great energy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's Marty Schechter levels of resentment that Alex is feeling here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is like you had to have had to pay extra to keep Alex there.
There are two packages there's the Alex gets to go home for a couple hours and you get to run things and you know it won't be as successful.
And then there's the you get to force Alex to listen to Fucking anything.
dan friesen
I would suggest that maybe even another level is that Alex, you're talking to him for two hours at the end of the show.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He uses a lot of time at the beginning of the show to pretend he's interested in the things that you're going to talk about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because I noticed that he shoehorns in Gilgamesh out of nowhere.
It's so obvious that it's an email that dark journalists sent him.
unidentified
Yeah.
@darkjournalist
When I talked to him, he said, Well, it's nothing at all like we understand because when the people get abducted in these experiences, they go through things.
It's not like they get put into a ship and grabbed and dragged along.
They go through walls.
So there's a whole different dynamics.
There's a whole different physics that's involved here.
This is the apothecary.
This is the physical reality distortion physics that goes along with this.
That's the problem.
alex jones
But this goes back to the Epic of Gilgamesh, Samaria.
It all describes this.
So does the Old Testament.
So the Egyptians.
So you hear all this new stuff, but it's in all the ancient texts.
So clearly, This isn't just modern propaganda.
They're trying to spend it.
There's something else going on.
@darkjournalist
There's no question about it.
And no, this phenomena has been with us since the beginning of time.
There's no question about that.
This goes all the way back to the Mayans and the Egyptians.
I'm glad you mentioned Gilgamesh because that is actually the original Noah's Ark story.
dan friesen
Oh, what a shock that you brought up this thing that I told you to bring up.
jordan holmes
What a two man game we're running.
It sounded so natural how you brought up that thing.
You shoehorned it into the conversation, and now I can get to talk about it.
dan friesen
God, man, it's bad.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Bad chemistry.
jordan holmes
How is it possible?
How do people watch this?
You know, it's like when you see Mr. Beast.
dan friesen
I thought you were going to say Mr. Bean.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Mr. Bean, a font of charisma.
Mr. Beast is like an empty suck where anything that resembling a human being should go, and yet people watch him.
I don't understand it, right?
This is insanely bad.
You could go find anything better.
There's so many better things where you're not even looking.
dan friesen
Yeah.
If this wasn't the show that I watch, Yeah.
You know, like, and comment on.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would find this cringy in a way that I probably would not want to watch it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But because it is Alex, it's really funny to me.
I think it's great.
jordan holmes
I mean, it makes me appreciate.
Here's what it makes me appreciate it makes me appreciate morning sports radio.
Sure.
Like the two dudes, you know who they are.
They are nondescript, they have nothing interesting about them, but they know how to do it.
They just do the thing.
It sounds natural.
dan friesen
Or even like Alex and his gold sponsor.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Back in the day.
dan friesen
No, now.
jordan holmes
Oh, now.
dan friesen
Kirk Elliott.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The two of them know what they're doing.
They're trying to sell gold.
And, like, Alex has to push sometimes for, like, a harder sale.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But their rhythm is generally way less.
jordan holmes
This is awful.
This is awful to listen to.
dan friesen
So, Dark Journalist, you know, that General went missing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And something else went missing.
unidentified
Uh oh.
dan friesen
And that's the food that was in front of Alex because he's eating while Dark Journalist is talking.
@darkjournalist
You see how the UFO file gets right into the heart of the national security state, but it spills out into industry.
As a matter of fact, the project that McCaslin was working on and that Monica Reza, his assistant, who also disappeared, were working on had to do with that memory metal, which they had redeveloped from UFO craft.
That metal is so important because it can withstand any kind of heat.
So we can make any kind of space engine with it.
This was the crucial aspect.
And for some reason, these people who actually had patented this technology now, they're working on it.
Under the government auspices, but you have this corporate control, they go out and patent it.
Well, was that one of the mistakes that were made in the process here?
And now they just released the call that McCaslin's wife made to 911.
And she says, Well, I get the impression that he intentionally, you know, he changed his clothes.
And I get the impression that he intentionally, you know, he left everything here that was important and took off.
So he's leaving the cell phone.
alex jones
Turned on a cell phone and left it, never does that.
@darkjournalist
Exactly.
And here's where I want your expertise, Alex, because I learned about predictive programming largely from listening to your show.
And the predictive programming in the background on this is extraordinary.
dan friesen
Alex made up a bunch of dumb shit that inspired Dark Journalist.
Now, Dark Journalist is being interviewed as if he's an expert on Alex's show.
It's a wonderful cycle where no one knows anything and everyone's a genius.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
You might notice that Dark Journalist doesn't mention a couple of details about the McCaslin story, like the fact that police put out a silver alert after he was reported missing.
That he's been retired since 2013, and this metal alloy was invented in the 90s.
He's trying to make it all seem so suspicious and recent, so it looks more connected than it is, because Dark Journalist gets more clicks and makes more money when he exploits other people's real pain like this.
It's gross.
unidentified
Yep.
That's how it works.
dan friesen
Yeah, he knows, but he has to know what he's doing.
I mean, he's grasping at straws in, uh, but, eh, whatever.
jordan holmes
It is, it is that, that, like, it is that hard sci fi narrative structure, you know, where it's like, ah, You can see from the patents.
Like, we're talking about a global, international, alien based conspiracy, and yet at the same time, a big crux point is going and getting a patent.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's also like she co invented, co discovered this alloy.
It's a family of alloys.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like, it's not something that you're disappearing over.
This is fucking stupid.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's disrespectful to these people's family, quite frankly.
jordan holmes
It's interdimensional.
Contracts again.
If you can travel through space and time, but you're bound by a signed piece of paper, you're out of your goddamn mind.
dan friesen
I think, you know what, go fucking nuts talking about Eisenhower meeting with whatever aliens you want.
It's dead.
It's not harming anybody.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But these people, like, they are recently missing and presumed probably maybe dead.
jordan holmes
Which is why it gets me more clicks.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that sucks.
jordan holmes
It really does.
dan friesen
So, anyway, he was saying that the predictive programming about this is really strong.
Mm hmm.
And he believes that he's figured out what the model was.
There was a TV show that primed us for this.
It's not The X Files.
It's Breaking Bad.
unidentified
Okay.
That sounds right.
@darkjournalist
I think that the template that's being used, and I get into steganography very often, as you know.
I think that the template that's being used, believe it or not, is Breaking Bad.
It's the television show Breaking Bad.
Because if you go back into the pieces of that show, McCaslin's disappearance are almost exactly.
Like Walter White's disappearance in the show.
And this is the strange thing about it.
He had worked at Los Alamos.
unidentified
Boo!
@darkjournalist
All of this is McCaslin 20 some odd years later.
So that show is going on, say, in 2010.
And here we have 15, 16 years later, this guy disappearing.
And the template for it there's actually a clip that's online that's available just about certain aspects of that show that have nothing to do with the McCaslin case.
But one of the clips is about Walt's cell phone is missing.
And there's this whole aspect about Walt's cell phone.
If you go into those details and match them up with the McCaslin missing disappearance case, it's very strange because the facts almost line up directly.
alex jones
Well, that's like The Simpsons, where thousands of times they call the cult lesser magic, but they believe, not as if they tell you, but if they tell you up front, they believe it greases the skids for some metaphysical thing to happen.
Exactly.
@darkjournalist
It opens up.
Right.
They call it playing with the medium.
dan friesen
So, Walter and Jesse were kidnapped by drug lord Tuco Salamanca and then returned like a day later and he had to fake to his wife that he was in a fugue state.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think Dark Journalist has seen Breaking Bad, but I think maybe he saw a meme or a blog post trying to connect this missing person.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And like Walter White's, the phone was like it was his second phone, it was his drug phone.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The number of things.
So, like.
Here's what I think they think they're doing, right?
Sometimes people who know things, who really know them, will start trying to explain them to you and your eyes will glaze over and you'll go, ah, like that, right?
And then they will remember something and they'll be like, okay, this isn't quite it, but if you've seen this movie, let me try and give you a visual kind of thing for you to grasp onto because obviously the understanding is.
dan friesen
It's like the Matrix and Philosophy books.
That's what they think they're doing.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
But they are going like, that's exactly what it is, which is not what it is.
dan friesen
And Breaking Bad is telling me messages to decode about a fucking retired general.
Spielberg Woo-Woo Exhibits 00:11:01
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Come on, man.
jordan holmes
Not how it works.
dan friesen
So, Alex, he does a lot of research.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Prays a lot.
But his 9 11 prediction didn't come from study, which he has claimed in the past.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
It didn't come from prophetic dreams, which he also has claimed in the past.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
It came because he saw that.
Pearl Harbor movie was coming out.
unidentified
There we go.
alex jones
People ask me how I knew they were going to stage 9 11.
I had a lot of data points.
But the last thing was a few months before Pearl Harbor, the movie came out, and a couple other Pearl Harbor movies.
They were priming it.
I could just see it.
But let's talk about that.
And I love Rogan.
I'm not saying he's a bunch of guests on.
But he's like, oh my God, the other day.
How does Steven Spielberg know about aliens so early?
Close Encounters, all that is government propaganda.
He's been read in, obviously.
Speak to that.
And all these big UFO movies being in production for multiple years, perfectly for this time.
and what it speaks to what's about to happen.
@darkjournalist
There's no question Spielberg in particular comes from that very elite slice.
They figured this is a guy we can work with.
Kubrick actually was a little erratic for their purposes.
unidentified
I hate you.
@darkjournalist
From what I've heard about him and his background.
But Spielberg is a little bit different.
They might have said, well, this is a guy who's interested in UFOs.
Let's have him take on this whole story.
He's so ahead of everyone.
He did close encounters in 1977.
That's 50 years ago, practically.
So, you know, he had the whole thing down rock solid all the way back then.
But he became very close with President Reagan.
And when they did the ET movie, they showed it at the White House.
And then Reagan came forward and said, You know, I really want to give an honor and tribute to Spielberg.
Everyone in this room knows that that movie, ET, is not fiction, it's fact.
So all those people in that room remembered it.
alex jones
I saw it in the news.
Elaborate on that.
What a crazy statement.
unidentified
What a crazy statement.
dan friesen
Yeah, Spielberg told that story and he was like, He was joking.
But anyway, this predictive programming stuff, like, I forgot to mention it, like, in terms of our last clip, but, like, all of this is Alex denying God again.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He knows why the globalists put predictive programming in media, and it's because they have to in order to get around God's cosmic laws about free will.
This isn't a sincere question he asked about, like, why do they do this?
Is it something.
He even answers his own question and says it's to lubricate.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's like he can't.
unidentified
Say that.
dan friesen
He can't think that.
This is about God and free will.
jordan holmes
It is an admittance that contextually, like you can't take Alex out of context because Alex exists only within context.
unidentified
In the moment.
jordan holmes
It is within his show that he does this.
But once he leaves his show, what he says doesn't mean anything on the show.
So now he goes to this place and he can say whatever he wants there.
But once he leaves there, none of that stuff means anything on back to the show.
And if this is two hours of brokered programming.
None of this counts as part of the show.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
This is Dark Journalist's show, and I'm here to go to eat.
I'm hungry.
dan friesen
And if Dark Journalist, like in advance, was like, I don't want to be a part of any of your weird religious shit, then.
unidentified
All right, no big deal.
I'll eat some more.
dan friesen
Yeah, the deal falls apart if I force God on him.
unidentified
Done and done.
dan friesen
So I'll just pretend God isn't behind all my God stuff.
unidentified
Works for me.
dan friesen
Cool, man.
Anyway, one of the most shocking clips we've ever uncovered was the one where Alex was talking about Trump being a mobster and all that shit.
Yeah.
This one, I think, is actually more revelatory.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And if this is, I mean, Alex is a fucking clown.
unidentified
Sure.
@darkjournalist
And I always think Reagan is a key figure when you're looking at this.
If you want to look for pinpoints on the board in the past and how it connects up, because even Trump, what I found out is very interesting, and I don't know if you're aware of this, but Trump was part of the continuity of government group in 1987.
They called him in.
He was part of the disaster planning.
So he knows a lot, a lot, wrong time before he gets into politics.
He has his uncle's family.
alex jones
And he was roped in under InfraGuard infrastructure protection.
@darkjournalist
Yes, exactly.
And what's interesting, when we look at the continuity of government program, it is the perfect response tool that they can use for a UFO threat.
dan friesen
So, wait, hold on.
Why didn't that come up?
Why didn't that come up in the 26th?
Like, he's a part of COG?
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
He's a part of the continuity of government infra guard shit.
Like, this is.
What are you talking about?
He's been in that since 1987?
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, it's a checklist.
I don't remember when it was, but a few months ago, I was like, there's just a checklist.
Name all the things that he thinks are good, and it will be.
It'll just go down the checklist.
What's the line?
You know, when will you jump off?
Is it whenever you reveal that he was COG?
dan friesen
Should be.
jordan holmes
Is that the line that makes you jump off?
Because there's going to be another one.
What's next?
dan friesen
But this, to me, is a really, really dangerous thing for Alex because we now really need to know when he became aware of this.
Because if he ever supported Trump while knowing that he was involved in COG since 1987, unreal.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
dan friesen
Seems relevant.
jordan holmes
It is a complete dismantling.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I'm going to skip past this next clip, too, because it's really just a long Alex being like, Now listen to me, Dog Journalist.
I want you to go deep.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I've asked you this question a number of times, but I really want you to dig in on this.
And he just goes on for like a minute and a half.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
And then the question at the end is Are the Globalists behind schedule?
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
They're behind schedule.
dan friesen
I just was fucking blowing hard to try and kill time.
jordan holmes
I'm just waiting for my next bite of sandwich.
dan friesen
Let me ask you, Dog Journalist, and I need you to go deep.
How would you describe the times that we're in right now?
jordan holmes
Really talk long for about 15 to 20 minutes.
That's how long it takes me to eat this fucking panda that I got from.
dan friesen
And then when I swallow it, I will talk over you until I'm hungry again.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So that leaves us with one last clip.
God damn it, this is funny.
Okay.
This.
I don't think there could be a better punchline for back to back dark journalist episodes.
unidentified
Oh my God.
dan friesen
Listen to this shit.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
He didn't.
Before it was the.
It's bad.
I'm.
I'm trying to figure it out.
So let's go to your exhibits because I'm interrupting you a bunch of a great job, Daniel.
Let's start at exhibit six, the Finks, which the ancients said had the stuff under it.
Now the scan to show that's there.
And we'll go through these exhibits because you sent a bunch of them today.
And I apologize, I haven't gotten to them.
Why is this important?
dan friesen
He once again has to rush through his exhibits.
He calls it the Finks again.
jordan holmes
I think he even, I don't think he called him Dark Journalist.
I think he called him Journalist.
I think he cut out a bunch of it and he threw the D and he's like, you've done a great job, Journalist.
dan friesen
Because it's not sincere.
jordan holmes
So, seriously, tell me what's going on under this thing.
unidentified
Oh, God.
The Finks.
The Finks.
dan friesen
So, what's the importance of these exhibits that I'm contractually obligated to send?
jordan holmes
You sent me this email, and I have to say them.
I have to say them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I have a big theory.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that is that Alex fucking does not like dark journalists and does not like that this is where his career is at.
unidentified
I agree.
dan friesen
And to anybody who would disagree with my position, I would like to say.
alex jones
Because you're the expert.
I mean, wide spectrum.
You're the expert on accuracy because I'm pretty smart about it, so I know you're.
I see your research is the best channel.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
There it is.
dan friesen
Thank you very much.
unidentified
There it is, man.
dan friesen
Thank you, Alex.
I found it.
jordan holmes
You're going to get me.
dan friesen
You're the expert.
jordan holmes
Finally.
It's taken a while.
It's taken a while.
I think, does the show end now?
Did we finish?
dan friesen
No, but it's cathartic.
It's cathartic as hell.
jordan holmes
Is this like, there will be the blood?
Will you beat me to death and then be like, it's finished?
dan friesen
There will be the blood?
unidentified
There will be the blood.
jordan holmes
There will be the blood.
Hey, I guess I can't make fun of anybody for calling him journalist.
dan friesen
Fucking Finks.
jordan holmes
Fucking Finks.
dan friesen
Over in Egypt.
I didn't mispronounce Egypt.
unidentified
Ehipt.
dan friesen
There you go.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, what a silly, stupid fucking show.
Trump is out here going crazy.
Yep.
Alex is doing whatever he can to figure out, like, how can I make a brand?
And I think it's really funny that.
jordan holmes
How much would it cost us to take a couple hours from a show?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I'd be willing to explore it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I legitimately did think about like what level of work would go into creating a fake website.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And like, and trying to, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And seeing if I could like broker some programming.
Yeah.
I think it would probably take a little more than I'm willing to put in to make it believable.
Yeah.
But yeah, I don't know.
Maybe if we, maybe, maybe.
jordan holmes
I'm sure nobody who listens to this show knows how to set things up.
dan friesen
Well, I'm sure they would, but it's not worth their effort either.
jordan holmes
No, it's not worth their effort.
dan friesen
Um, But, yeah, I don't know.
It can't be that much.
jordan holmes
It can't be that much.
Dark journalist can't be some sort of thrown around millions of dollars kind of guy.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Maybe he's independently wealthy.
jordan holmes
Maybe he, that's a good point.
Maybe journalist does have all the money.
dan friesen
See, here's the thing we know a number of journalists, and it's not a super lucrative field.
jordan holmes
It is, in fact, the opposite.
dan friesen
It's very hard to get a gig somewhere that will publish yourself, especially in the light.
Yeah, that's the thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Dark journalism.
jordan holmes
Very lucrative.
unidentified
So lucrative.
jordan holmes
Lucrative positions.
Yeah.
Well, I bet that's more true on average, I imagine.
dan friesen
I hate to say this, but I love this guy.
jordan holmes
I know you do.
I know you do.
dan friesen
He's given me something that has been absent for a while, which is a little whimsy.
I love that Alex hates him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do too.
dan friesen
And you can feel it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I like that.
And Alex feels trapped.
And I like that too.
It's very funny.
So I'm just going to become a dark journalist.
jordan holmes
You're a journalist guy?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm a dark journalist.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex has already said that I'm the expert, so now.
jordan holmes
Well, there's only one thing left to do take the journalism down.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We'll do some journalism on journalism.
jordan holmes
Oh, we'll go to journalism school.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Mizzou.
We're at my alma mater.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
One of the best journalism schools in the country.
jordan holmes
They love there will be the blood.
dan friesen
So we'll be back with another episode.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Soon.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
And DBDo at SolidFight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
We'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
unidentified
Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
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