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March 2, 2026 - Knowledge Fight
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#1121: February 28, 2026

Knowledge Fight dissects Alex Jones’ flip-flop on Trump’s February 28, 2026, Iran airstrikes—killing the Ayatollah—that he now defends despite past anti-regime-change rhetoric. The hosts mock his "divine foresight" claims while exposing his silence on Trump’s War Powers violations and 85+ student casualties in Manab. Jones’ shift from constitutional absolutism to excusing strikes as "economic necessity" is framed as hypocrisy, especially as InfoWars abandons its anti-war stance. The episode ends with dark satire: if leaders can ignore laws for "national benefit," rights become tools of power—proving Jones’ network now mirrors the very globalist order it once railed against. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 13:14
d
dan friesen
36:47
j
jordan holmes
22:42
Appearances
b
breanna morello
infowars 04:09
d
donald j trump
admin 00:37
Clips
p
pastor james david manning
00:02
Callers
andy in kansas
callers 00:04
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Speaker Time Text
Billie Eilish's Idol Clause 00:05:50
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgepight.com.
It's time to pray.
donald j trump
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
Shang, we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
donald j trump
Dan and Jordan.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
unidentified
Rattler.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Pandy.
alex jones
Stop it.
unidentified
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding it.
andy in kansas
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish-hand color here saying I love your room.
donald j trump
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
It's March, so let's get over the bullshit.
I'm going first.
jordan holmes
I think that's what you have to do.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm going to march like the penguins up into this.
jordan holmes
March is Dan's month.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
March is Dan's month.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's all about me going first.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Be first in the gimme-gimmies.
jordan holmes
I like it.
unidentified
I like it.
jordan holmes
Beware the guides of March, though.
Keep an eye out.
Shit's coming.
You've taken a lot of responsibility.
dan friesen
This month, something bad might happen.
jordan holmes
It might happen to you.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Nothing bad's happened yet.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So my bright spot is that season 50 of Survivor is upon us.
I don't like this show, and yet I keep watching it.
So I do like it in some way.
I'm so conflicted.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's just...
Anyway, here's what I wanted to tell you about, George.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Tell me about it.
dan friesen
Okay, so they have the season 50, the theme is in the hands of the fans.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's no good.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Don't put things in the hands of the fans.
dan friesen
So the premise is supposed to be that everything is voted on online.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So, like, how strong advantages are, what types of advantages there are in the game.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
Who's on the cast?
All of this was voted on.
And to me, I think that sucks because that's propest blaming us for this.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
He's saying, you wanted this.
You look at this.
You wanted this.
jordan holmes
I mean, when you're the captain of Bodhi McBoatface, I imagine you're like, this is not my fault.
This is my fault.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You guys made this happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So yeah, that's going to be a fucking disaster.
jordan holmes
It's going to be trash.
dan friesen
And it's your fault.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
I do appreciate an entire season of television that is essentially like a be careful what you wish for lesson.
dan friesen
It feels passive aggressive.
And I also think that it's bullshit.
There's no way these were fair votes.
There's no way any of that.
But who cares?
Anyway, sure.
There's an advantage that is revealed in the first episode.
And if you haven't watched it and don't want spoilers, skip ahead.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Someone finds an idol.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But it is not an idol.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
It is a Billie Eilish boomerang idol.
And I'd see you looking off into the distance.
jordan holmes
Now, before we continue, just to be clear, I refuse.
Now you can keep going.
dan friesen
Well, in the past, there's not been, let's say, idols or anything that have been named after celebrities.
jordan holmes
It would be strange.
dan friesen
That is very weird.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But you would think that if it's the Billie Eilish boomerang idol, she's going to be on the show in some way.
She doesn't appear.
jordan holmes
Did she pay for it?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I don't fucking know.
There's a note.
This person finds the idol and there's a note that says, Hi, Billie Eilish here.
That's it.
That's the connection.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
This is like the naming of stadiums again.
It's fucking Wrigley Field.
It's not U.S. Cellular.
It's not fucking Oracle or Radio.
It's none of that shit.
Name it after some asshole.
dan friesen
I'm guessing that she's contractually obligated to appear at the finale now because her name is on this idol.
jordan holmes
It's got to be something.
dan friesen
But the premise of this idol is that a person finds it and then they have to give it to someone on another tribe.
And then if that person gets voted out while holding the idol, it comes back to them.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait.
So the idol doesn't protect them from being voted out.
dan friesen
It can if they use it right.
The person that they send it to, if they use it correctly, then it works.
But if they get blindsided and voted out while they still have it, it boomerangs back to the other person.
jordan holmes
I demand everyone blame Billie Eilish for this.
unidentified
I do too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think it's clear whose fault this is.
dan friesen
If she puts her name on it, holy shit.
jordan holmes
That is the worst.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
And again, I just have props looking at me telling me it's my fault that the fans wanted this.
unidentified
No, I don't want this.
jordan holmes
Did the fans vote on the name too?
unidentified
I guess.
jordan holmes
That would make sense.
It would make sense if they were allowed to just randomly name shit.
Because does Billie Eilish have a song called Boomerang?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Is she famous for being Australian in some form?
dan friesen
No, that's Nicole Kidman.
jordan holmes
All right.
So, so then, so you've named the idol after her, who is a person who makes music, as far as I understand it.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Then you've given it a mechanic, but you've not put her there or made it make sense.
dan friesen
And it's an overly complicated mechanic that really doesn't, like, it's not necessarily interesting for gameplay.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But here's the other thing: there are celebrities that are associated with survival.
jordan holmes
That's kind of what I was thinking.
dan friesen
Like, Sia is really associated with survival.
unidentified
Really?
I'm On My Dog's Poop Schedule 00:14:56
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is that because you can't see her?
unidentified
Probably.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
She gave like $50,000 to a player who didn't win a season because he refused to kill a chicken or something like that.
And she's an animal rights activist.
But since then, she has been deeply involved in the finales.
And I think Tyler Perry, too, is like a huge survivor guy.
unidentified
Man.
dan friesen
But like, why Billy?
What the fuck?
unidentified
The kids.
jordan holmes
The kids these days.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I'm still stuck.
I thought Lorde was still young.
How old are we?
We're very old, right?
dan friesen
I think she's young in my mind.
jordan holmes
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So is like Cher.
So this is an issue.
We're all going to die someday.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Mike White from White Lotus is also on season 50.
He's one of the contestants.
And I went back and watched his first season.
And I was like, I bet I'm fairly close in age to how old he was on the first season.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He looks old.
And I am fairly close.
That's bummed me out.
jordan holmes
I mean, you look great, though.
unidentified
Thanks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think here's what we got to hang on to, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is what I keep thinking about.
Remember the people who grew up in like the 20s and like how much cold was just around.
And then their faces at 30 were like just a fucking mess.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So that can happen.
But we've escaped it.
dan friesen
But back then, you could be like a sex pot dream boat kind of guy and wear fucking suspenders.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
You know, you could be like a cigar chomping guy with a silly hat and suspenders.
And people would be like, look at that heartthrob.
jordan holmes
Man, you remember, you remember Grumpy Old Med?
dan friesen
Grumpy or old man.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
I remember reading about what's his face?
dan friesen
Not Lemon?
jordan holmes
No, not Lemon.
dan friesen
Mathow.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I remember reading about Mathow, and he was a sex symbol.
And so I was like, all right, let's take a look.
And I went and watched one of his movies in the 60s.
First off, great movie.
Second, looks exactly the same.
Looks exactly the same, 40 years apart.
That man's face did not change.
dan friesen
But I bet you went back and watched it and you're like, I get it.
jordan holmes
I mean, his hunched over shoulders, his inability to seem like he can lift anything.
This is absolute dynamite, my friend.
dan friesen
I don't know how this spiraled off into this area, because I think Mike White, even like now and then, is an attractive man.
jordan holmes
I think Walter Mathow is an attractive man.
dan friesen
He shows his age.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Anyway, I think this season sucks and I blame propes for blaming me.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
That's fair.
My bright spot is a little abstract, so I'll give you some background.
All right.
So last year, 2025, Sonny, our new dog, our third pup, just really shit on the floor all the time inside.
Just really.
dan friesen
Constant battle for you.
jordan holmes
It was not good.
It was a fight.
It was a struggle.
So somewhere around the end of December, right, I realized something.
Maybe, maybe I can trick her into pooping twice in the morning.
dan friesen
Okay.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
This is an interesting gamble.
jordan holmes
I call it the two-poop strategy, right?
We get it to work.
And so, whatever.
dan friesen
The juke-coop coup.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
I hope that.
Whenever we started doing this, it worked.
And then it kept working.
But then, right, the snow stopped falling.
So I was like, what are we going to do?
This environment has changed.
Now she's pooping into piles of leaves.
I don't know why this makes sense, but what's important is that if she does it twice in the mornings, we're free and clear.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Free and clear.
dan friesen
So let me, let me.
I don't have a dog, so I don't know the schedule.
But you take usually a dog out in the morning and in the afternoon.
jordan holmes
I take the other two out at least three times a day.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, okay.
jordan holmes
Morning, afternoon, and night.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So with Sonny, you go two in the morning, and then you still go afternoon and night?
jordan holmes
Nope.
We only go once outside in the morning, separate.
And she poops twice because I take her from one area and she poops.
And then I move her into a completely separate area and she's like, I don't know what's supposed to go on.
And she poops again.
dan friesen
But then doesn't have to go out again later.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
This is weird.
jordan holmes
It is so strange.
Her sunny brain is crazy.
dan friesen
I don't know if this is brain.
I think this might be guts.
jordan holmes
Could be any number of things.
Second, but here's the abstract part of this, right?
So I was handling my business this morning.
And after she does, after she executes the two-poop strategy, then I take her little boots off and we race inside.
We run and we both have a grand time.
It's 5.30 in the morning and we're both screaming about how fun it is.
And then I remember because we watched the F1 show, The Drive to Survive yesterday, and I was so happy with this little dog because she wasn't shitting inside anymore.
I was like, those fucking idiots.
They live such stupid wastes of life.
Do they not understand how great the TPS is?
Those fucking, and that's how I want to live.
I'm a very humble man.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Because I look at those people driving.
That guy got paid like $12.5 million to drive like 10 times.
Boring.
Loser.
Loser.
dan friesen
Get out of here.
I'm on my dog's poop schedule.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
I'm stoked about it.
That's what Livin's about.
All those people are crazy on that show.
dan friesen
I'm happy for that.
jordan holmes
Absolute lunatics.
And I'm having a great time.
dan friesen
Well, I know that we've talked about it quite a bit.
This is a real battle that you've had with the bowel.
jordan holmes
It's a victory.
It's a victory.
I mean, I don't want to declare it too soon, but a couple months is solid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
A couple months is solid.
It really does.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It really does.
dan friesen
Nice.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, Jordan, unfortunately, we had a bad day today.
jordan holmes
I believe that may be true.
dan friesen
So, yeah, Trump attacked Iran, and we'll talk about it.
But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So, first, Mackie Switchblade, the furry space potato smoocher cat, says, your face is so full of meaning.
The other Nene agrees.
You are our champ.
You got this.
Thank you so much, Yournao Palziwonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, play Omega Strikers.
You might not regret it.
Also, we named our dog after an evil dragon, Orochi, but we first named her after an evil racist dragon, Snallygaster, for two weeks before we found that out.
Show everyone her picture, Dan.
Now that you said it out loud, you really, you should really show her picture.
Thank you so much, Your Nao Palziwonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I don't have a picture of the racist dragons.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't know what's going on.
Next, hey, wife, I finally did the thing.
The high point of my week is listening to Knowledge Fight with you.
Unless Milo Yapal Pidimus, Chalkboard Nails Incarnate, shows up.
Love husband.
Thank you so much, Jeranao Palziwonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
And we have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to Jordaninian Jihad.
I know what it was going for.
I couldn't pronounce it.
Thank you so much.
You're an output Decrad.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go on to your mother telling you brilliant.
pastor james david manning
Someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Sharp.
Bomb, Jarjar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
I would say that if people destroy all AI in my name, totally stoked about that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I get that.
And I think that I just think that the Jordanian, I think that needs work.
Butlerian sounds way better.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It comes off the tongue better than a combination of our names.
jordan holmes
Jordanian.
That doesn't sound too bad.
Jordanian jihad.
dan friesen
I like the L in the Butlerian.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the L is pretty crucial.
dan friesen
It really helps it come out of it.
jordan holmes
The Butlerian Jihadian.
Yeah, yeah, the rising and falling action of it.
dan friesen
So it looks like we're on the path towards a giant war.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Jordan, it looks like things are bad.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
On Saturday, Israel and the United States carried out a series of attacks on Iran that resulted in the death of the Ayatollah, along with a number of members of his family and a bunch of other people.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Obviously, by the time we were recording this episode, we have no idea what the ripple effects of this are going to be, but it's difficult to imagine this is just going to be no big deal.
For years, one of the largest selling points for Trump and the Patriots has been that they're not going to get the U.S. involved in wars.
America first.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Trump was the peace candidate, and Alex constantly would argue that if Hillary got into office, she would take us to war with Iran immediately.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
This was sold as a point of no return that the globalists would take us to.
And one of the biggest reasons that there was an immediacy that Trump needed to win in 2016.
I have no interest in defending the Ayatollah, but I have as little interest in arguments that depend on saying that the world is better off without him in power.
That may be true, but in order to entertain that argument, you have to distill everything down to a single variable, and that's just not how things work in the real world.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This is an interesting position for Alex to be in, where his chosen God King has done the thing that the devil was supposed to want to do.
When Trump attacked Iran last time, it was fairly easy to play that off as a situation where world leaders were posturing.
And, you know, there's a small-scale attack that would prompt a small-scale retaliation and then fizzle out.
There was going to be backlash from some areas in the right-wing media audience, obviously, but that seemed kind of manageable.
This time around, the variables don't seem the same.
Not only did Trump join with Israel in an attack that killed the supreme leader of Iran, but this is the second head of a country that he's responsible for taking out of power just this year.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a pretty solid body count.
dan friesen
When he kidnapped Maduro, Alex was able to say that that's okay because that was Trump reasserting the Monroe doctrine.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But that argument doesn't work here.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
There seems like no way to justify this turn of events.
So let's tune in to Alex's Saturday emergency broadcast.
jordan holmes
I'm interested to see how this one works.
Because I mean, I remember how, okay, like, is it an assassination or is it a murder?
Or because they're not at war, right?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
So, but I mean, you know, I don't know.
dan friesen
This killing of the Ayatollah?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't even know what the nomenclature is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but I mean, here's what I would say, right, though, is back in the day, kids, we used to have laws for even the fucking president where he would be like, you can't do that.
It's illegal.
It's literally illegal for him to have done that.
And so anybody who takes an order from him now is taking an illegal order.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
But, you know, whatever.
dan friesen
Presidents would sometimes do that.
And then it would become like, okay, we are all now dealing with you as someone who is, you know, doing an illegal war.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Man, it's, I don't know.
jordan holmes
What you going to do?
Look.
unidentified
Look.
jordan holmes
Hey, I appreciate it.
Like, okay, here's where we're at, though.
This is the nice part, right?
Republicans, you got to come get your boy.
You're going to die, too.
And listen, if we're all going to die, I'm the one who's least at fault for this.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So you guys better come get your boy.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that there's something to be said for that because, like, okay, all you dumb shits have been yelling about how everyone has Trump derangement syndrome.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Obviously, if we did, everything that we've tried to do has not stopped us from getting to this point.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Therefore, you are the only thing that can stop this.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So do it or don't.
jordan holmes
Good luck.
dan friesen
It's on you.
jordan holmes
Have fun.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I was shocked because, you know, news is coming in about all this.
And then, Ayatollah's maybe dead.
And then confirmed Ayatollah's dead.
Then I'm working on this episode and putting things together.
It's like, Hamadinejad is dead.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
This just is, I mean, there's a lot happening.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, it's like the ninth episode of this season of The Wire.
You know, we're in the big action part.
And then the next episode is going to be dealing with the fallout.
That one's not going to be good.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex, he called it.
jordan holmes
Yep.
I'm sorry, he did what?
dan friesen
He called it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Well, I told you, Friday, I said this weekend when the U.S. and Israel were going to hit Iran.
I could see all the signs.
It wasn't just a negotiation tactic.
It is 1.01 Central Standard Time p.m., the last day of February, 2026.
I am your host, Alex Jones, and we are here at the Alex Jones Network Studios in Austin, Texas.
We have Breanna Morello coming in with the latest.
She's also a Pentagon correspondent here in studio with us.
In about 40 minutes, my son, Rex Jones, his analysis, is going to be joining us as well.
We're working on General Flynn and a lot of other people.
But regardless, the Sunday show at the InfoWar studios is going to be obviously very important.
dan friesen
How bad are things at InfoWars that Trump has launched a war against Iran and Alex is trying to tease that his son is going to come on and do analysis?
jordan holmes
Not going great.
dan friesen
Flynn's maybe, but I got my son.
I got my intention that no one cares about.
Also, his son does not show up.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, a lot of guests were canceling on him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Breanna Morello does come.
I wonder if Alex, it wasn't like Rex canceled on him.
It was just like, I don't need to talk about it.
jordan holmes
We're not going to need you, Rex.
Rex, you can stay on the bench for this game.
We don't need the cleanup.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
One minute, zero points, zero rebounds, zero assists.
dan friesen
I think it's fascinating, though.
Like, you're not even trying.
Where's Roger?
You're getting your son?
Is no one answering the phone?
jordan holmes
It has to.
I mean, is this the moment where it's like, fuck, Roger's the bad guy?
Is this when Alex is like, hey, hey, hey, maybe I shouldn't talk to that guy anymore?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I think Steve might still be alive.
Get Pachenek.
jordan holmes
God, get Pieczenik in.
Now is the time for Pieczenik to return like a hero.
dan friesen
Breanna Morello works for Alex.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So this isn't an impressive get.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I just think he's got no one.
I think there's no bench.
jordan holmes
Man, you got to get Pieczenik back.
There's no risk.
There's no downside.
Nothing can be done to you that hasn't already been done.
Let Pachenek fucking cook, man.
dan friesen
I agree with you that he should, but I think it's too humbling.
I think that Pieczenik is the kind of guy who would rub it in.
Alex's Dilemma 00:15:44
jordan holmes
No.
Pachenek is the guy who would spend years rubbing it in.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And that would be great for me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it would be fun for us, but probably not for him.
dan friesen
So anyway, this isn't America First.
And Alex is a little upset about that.
alex jones
Look, everybody is debating this as, are you for the Moolahs or are you for regime change?
jordan holmes
Wrong debate.
alex jones
You have to look at all of this in the history of it and the neocons in 9-11 saying they were going to regime change seven countries and use 9-11 as the pretext.
unidentified
Fun.
alex jones
And it wasn't just Wesley Clark releasing classified info.
They said in the Project for the American Century, a year before 9-11, that they needed a big attack to be able to do this.
And so I don't like the Moolah's.
I don't like their dictatorship, but this is not America First.
dan friesen
Okay, so Trump is evil, right?
jordan holmes
I mean, what is the point of words?
What is the point of words and actions if when they line up, you still don't believe in them?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, Trump is Bush, except that he lied to you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He conned you as a thing.
jordan holmes
He's double Bush.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a double Bush.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's like Bush, but worse.
jordan holmes
You got H and W'd.
dan friesen
Or maybe not, but who knows?
jordan holmes
Who knows?
dan friesen
But look, it's bad.
It's not America First.
I'll tell you that much.
Everyone's getting distracted by this argument of, are you for the Mullahs or not?
jordan holmes
What a great.
Man, I remember WikiLeaks.
Remember everybody seeing that video of fucking Obama blowing up a wedding or whatever and everybody being all crazy about that?
God, those were the days.
Remember when you were like, hey, you're a bad guy for doing that?
dan friesen
Hold on to that thought for a little bit longer.
jordan holmes
Ah, shit.
dan friesen
So back in the day, you had the Iraq War.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And there were a group of mercenaries that were killing some people on behalf of the U.S. government.
jordan holmes
Blackwater, right?
dan friesen
And their owner, the guy who ran that company, is now Prince.
Yeah, he's a Trump guy.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
But even he says they shouldn't do that.
alex jones
Many CEO, founder of Blackwater, very successful, smart businessman.
He's looked at the different ethnic and religious groups there.
There's a very good chance there's going to be a civil war.
We're going to be sucked into a new Vietnam.
And that's if we're successful getting rid of the Moolahs.
So it's a real roll of the dice.
But no one can deny that this is an extremely bold move by Trump.
dan friesen
Comedy villain war profiteer says, don't go to war.
Huh.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Strange, but also bold?
I don't know if this is the adjective.
Bold is a good adjective for a barbecue sauce.
jordan holmes
I mean, I suppose here's the thing, right?
Okay, so Moolah's good, bad, blah, blah, blah.
Should they be who gives a shit?
Here's the debate for me, right?
What do they want?
What's the win here?
dan friesen
For whom?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
What is the win?
If at the end of this, they say, ha ha, we have won.
What does that look like?
dan friesen
Now, I will say that the mercenary billionaire guy that I like now, who I made my career opposing, he even says that this is a bad idea.
But man, Trump is tangy.
I mean, what balls on him?
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
I will say this.
Like, everybody who tried to kill Fidel Castro should kill themselves right now.
Like, you guys suck.
You guys suck so bad.
You could have just shot him.
You could have just blown him up.
You could have just blown him up.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know.
Was drone technology that good back then?
jordan holmes
No, but I mean, they tried like fucking sneaking poison into a McDonald's cup a mile away and hoping it got to him.
So just shoot him.
dan friesen
I think back then the CIA was based on a lot of like Wiley Coyote things.
jordan holmes
They were heavily shocking amount of LSD across the entire organization.
They used to put it in their punch bowls at the Christmas party.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I don't think they had brute tactics as much as it's very clear that Trump is employing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, they were more wacky races back then.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we know from listening to a lot of this dumb liar talk that he believes that God speaks to him by waking him up in the middle of the night and telling him what time it is.
Now, Alex is going to discuss in this next clip that he sensed that Trump was giving a speech at 2 in the morning.
But mysteriously, he never says that God told him.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
But this is like Trump said in his eight-minute speech at 2 in the morning today at 2 a.m.
And I literally woke up right at 2 a.m.
I felt a disturbance in the force.
jordan holmes
He had to pee.
alex jones
And boom.
I mean, I literally woke up five minutes into it.
And I didn't immediately pause for a few hours because I wanted to really think about it.
What I was going to say.
And what I did say then when I put out reports was, let's go to the beginning.
The great game, the British Empire, the U.S. picking it up, the destabilization programs, Israel continuing it, Israel finding Hamas, Israel putting Al-Qaeda in charge of Syria.
The CIA helping the Moodle's get in charge of 79, using Moodles to try to overthrow the government in 53 in Operation Ajax, the double-crossing them putting the Shah.
So it can look good to have regime change and claim, oh, we're getting rid of bad people, but the CIA and others put people in even worse.
Because the globalists in Israel do not want any stable countries in that area.
They want a balkanized, divided group.
That's admitted.
So Trump is being sold in the foreign policy of stability and peace, which he's done a great job in North Korea.
And then maybe he's really going to be able to carry this out.
I don't know.
But it is a bold gamble.
dan friesen
It's great to go back to the beginning and ramble about Operation Ajax and the Shah, but ultimately, at the end of all that ranting, what we're left with is Trump being on the same side as the one Alex desperately needs to paint as the villains here.
Regime change war, particularly in the Middle East, is bad and a tool that the globalists use to cause destabilization and maintain control.
Alex can call Trump's actions bold all he wants and pretend that he's found some magical neutral adjective to describe this, but at the bottom of the barrel, what we've got is a regime change war that Alex is not opposed to.
I say this a lot, but this guy is a fucking worm.
If you can look at this development and not call it what it is, then I struggle to figure out what your complaint with the Iraq war ever could have been.
I guess Bush wasn't bold enough or what?
Like, this just doesn't work.
jordan holmes
I think this is such a great example of the real reason that they were like, we don't want Iran to get the bomb.
Because if Iran has the bomb, you can't blow up the Ayatollah.
You can't do it.
That's an interesting thing that we haven't talked about a lot with our foreign policy is that we have not blown up anybody who has the bomb, and we've blown up a lot of people, if not everybody, who does it.
dan friesen
Well, and Alex says that Iran has it.
And he repeatedly says, even on this episode, that they have nuclear weapons.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I. If they do, now's the time, buddy.
dan friesen
They're slow playing.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
The other thing that I just find insane is that, like, okay, something magically happened, and you had a sense in the middle of the night.
Great.
Why aren't you saying that was God?
You always say that shit is God.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Where's God?
jordan holmes
I think what happened was Robert Duvall broke him because he didn't hear about Robert Duvall.
He knew Gene Hackman was going.
dan friesen
What about Reiner?
Did he hear about Rob Reiner?
jordan holmes
I mean, none of us saw Reiner coming.
That's a whole different thing.
Who knows if God even had a hand in that one?
dan friesen
So I think, you know, a lot of Alex's career is built on this idea of being opposed to regime change wars and particularly Iraq.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's what we came up with.
jordan holmes
Very expensive, waste of time, killed a lot of people, et cetera, et cetera.
dan friesen
And it's one of the few places where you can say, like, well, he had a good point a lot of the time about that.
He was wrong about a lot of details, but in the bigger picture of like, we shouldn't have done that.
Good.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, now we're in another one.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
And Iran has responded by hitting most of its neighbors that have been allied with the United States and Israel, blowing up apartment buildings, blowing up government bases, hitting military bases, U.S. military bases.
We've got a bunch of footage that have been effectively hit with huge explosions.
You know there's going to be casualties when you see a U.S. Air Force base and it just, boom, each building blows up.
So when those numbers come out, the American people are going to have a big gut reaction and want to go to full war.
Well, let me tell you, we're already at full war here.
And when Trump told them in that speech this morning, rise up.
This is the commitment.
We're going to regime change.
This is it.
And I want total surrender from the Iranian National Guard.
And you'll be given total amnesty.
Or if you don't, you will be destroyed.
When he said that, he clearly stated total commitment to regime change with Iran, three times the size of Iraq, much bigger population, much more high-tech weapons, and has an alliance with China, Russia, and North Korea.
And now the U.S. has ordered everybody out of the Strait of Hormuz.
No civilian ships going through there, so it's effectively already closed.
The Iranians last year passed it in their parliament, which is a rubber stamps of the Ayatollahs to seal it if they were hitting a major attack.
They're taking out their naval ships.
They're taking off their shipyards.
They're taking out their command and control, their air defense, their air bases, their missiles.
I mean, this is massive, and it's going to go on, I would imagine, for a month or longer until the regime falls, which it may not.
And even if it does, then it's a whole other quagmire.
dan friesen
So Trump's, he's got to go, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, I mean, we're at the point where if you watched the movie Operation Valkyrie and you're like, I hope Hitler survives this one, you're probably having a rough day these days.
dan friesen
This is strange to hear without a level of, and so Trump must be arrested.
He did this.
He started this thing, right?
jordan holmes
How can you kick it off?
There's no way.
I mean, the idea of being a soldier now boggles my mind.
Because now we have to acknowledge like a full brainwash territory.
Because if you are going to Iran or anything like that now, come on, buddy.
You're crazy.
You're out of your mind.
You can just go like, nah, buddy, nah, I'm out.
I'm out.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm not sure the generational gap between a major, major war is far enough.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like between Vietnam and Iraq, maybe there was enough of a time where people had forgotten what a raw deal they were given.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And I don't think that people have forgotten that about Iraq yet.
Yeah, I don't know if recruitment's going to be good.
jordan holmes
It'll be interesting to like really, I mean, obviously a thousand years from now, it'll be really interesting to study the idea of a standing army becoming its own mercenary army.
You know, like the idea of completely divorcing any patriotism from your military and making it purely an economic transaction.
I pay you, you kill these people.
Done and done.
dan friesen
Well, Eric Prince is out.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
Like that is what, if you're going to try and do that now, that's what you have to turn the regular military into.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
So Alex said that Trump gave that speech in the middle of the night.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he plays a little bit of it.
And I was fucking floored.
alex jones
Okay.
Let's go to the short club of Trump.
Then I'm going to go to.
I'll introduce.
No, no, just go into Wesley Clark.
It's over 50 years ago.
Talking about the plan for seven nation regime change using 9-11.
Let's play those back-to-back.
donald j trump
Finally, to the great, proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand.
Stay sheltered.
Don't leave your home.
It's very dangerous outside.
Bombs will be dropping everywhere.
When we are finished, take over your government.
It will be yours to take.
This will be probably your only chance for generations.
For many years, you have asked for America's help, but you never got it.
No president is willing to do what I am willing to do today.
Now you have a president who is giving you what you want.
Let's see how you respond.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
I mean, he stops just short of telling them to storm Blackwater prison.
Like, that's Bane.
He's just doing the Bane speech.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's the way I live, right?
Which is if you, then me.
You know, like, if you can do this, then I can do this.
If you can't do this, then I can't do this.
Very simple.
So what I'm saying is we need to take back the United States and overthrow the government because this may be the only opportunity we have.
All of his attention is focused on Iran right now.
We need to blow up the whole fucking capital because that's okay now.
You can blow up a world leader and that's demonstrably fine.
You have to say it's fine.
Legally, it is fine.
dan friesen
People of Iran.
Too long, Harvey Danford.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Like, what?
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
I have taken out your Ayatollah.
And now it is up to you.
jordan holmes
If Iran blows up Trump's house and Trump dies, we all have to be like, yeah, man, it's tough out there.
It's a rough world.
dan friesen
At most, it has to be seen as equivalent.
unidentified
Yeah.
Right?
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I'm stoked.
Honestly, Iran, blow him up.
Everybody would be stoked.
dan friesen
Take back your shape.
jordan holmes
You could give the same speech.
We could have dueling Trump speeches from Iran being like, United States, do it.
dan friesen
Don't think that that's good, and I don't think that gets us anywhere good.
But, like, how can you when he's giving a speech like that?
How can you act like there's any norm?
Yeah, there's any law.
jordan holmes
Behaving rationally in the face of irrational is irrational.
That is insane behavior.
dan friesen
And it's tacky.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is.
dan friesen
It's just ripping off Bane.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
Anyway, there were some mistakes made in these attacks.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, kids got killed.
jordan holmes
Probably a bunch of kids.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Well, it's called Burke.
Here we are.
And Trump is committed now to this war.
You know, here's a girls' school in Manab.
They're saying that 85 students were killed when Israel bombed the school.
jordan holmes
I bet they care.
alex jones
And again, this is going to enrage the world against Israel and the United States.
I mean, Trump used the 1980s bombing that killed 200-plus servicemen as the reason we're doing this.
Well, then, what do they get to do because of this?
You know, it's, it's, it, and, and again, I don't want the mulas, but even you understand.
The Dishonesty Of Alex's Narrative 00:05:12
alex jones
America first.
We're not supposed to be running around doing this anymore.
But here we are.
dan friesen
Here we are.
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So Alex says that Israel attacked that school in Manab, but that's a cowardly way to report this.
We did that.
Trump did that.
Well, I understand the desire for Alex to pretend like this is a situation where Israel committed the evil act and Trump's only crime is being naive and sticking to that alliance, but that's not what's happening.
The death toll at that school is now around 150, and the United States shares blame for that.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
There's a tone that Alex is trying to strike where he's trying to assert his own identity as being separate from Trump's, even as he tries to minimize Trump's complicity in killing children.
This is something that needs to be mocked and rejected for a couple of basic reasons.
The first is that it's just dishonest.
Alex has known who Trump is for at least most of the time that he supported him.
It was just easier to lie to the audience about his character early on in their run together.
This is exactly the sort of outcome that people warned would come from Trump's foreign policies, and Alex has just pretended like the opposite was true, and he doesn't deserve to be given any benefit of the doubt about that.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
The second is more important, and that it's that the honesty or dishonesty of Alex's current posture is irrelevant.
And what we should understand is the dishonesty of the game he's played to get us to this point.
In an election between Trump and Kamala Harris, if you asked me which of them were possibly going to get us entangled in a war with Iran, I would tell you that both are possible.
It seems more likely with Trump, but neither is that off the table.
jordan holmes
Hey, the U.S. is crazy.
dan friesen
Same with the comparison of Trump and Biden or Trump and Hillary.
In the absence of other viable candidates, I would choose any of these other people over Trump, but it would be insincere for me to pretend that any of them would be the solution to war.
I understand that all of those Democratic possible presidents exist within the current foreign policy paradigm and answer to the forces and whims of capitalist interests.
So I would hope that they would be as not bad as possible, but to imagine any of them spearheading a revolution that ended war and brought peace would be stupid.
But this is how Alex sold Trump to his audience.
And that's what we need to understand.
Alex presented Trump as the outsider who wasn't beholden to foreign policy or profit motivations like all the globalists of the past.
He was not just a better choice as a politician.
He was a revolution against politics as usual.
And here we are at a point where that's both undeniably true and undeniably false.
It's true that this is not politics as usual, but it's false that it's any different in a meaningful way from the worst parts of the system that already existed.
Because Trump is acting this way, it invalidates not only Alex's version of Trump individually, but it also invalidates Alex's supposed ability to tell the difference between a truly revolutionary figure and a fraud.
Trump has been revealed to be literally everything Alex is supposed to be against.
But because he's so pot committed to supporting Trump as something different from the neocons of the past, Alex can't even address this attack as it is.
He has to call it bold and try to eat around the edges because to do anything else would require him to admit that he's been wrong for a decade.
And not only that, he was wrong about something that God told him he was right about.
This is such a vulnerable position for him to be in that he can't even do shit.
jordan holmes
See, this is the thing.
This is classic Satan.
This is classic Satan shit, right?
Like, we're watching what Satan is supposed to be doing.
He's like killing it with this guy, making up all kinds of shit, getting him to believe anything, then putting him into a situation where he's so handcuffed by his own bullshit that he's trapped into being the opposite of what he's always dreamt of being.
That's devil.
That's the devil.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's hard to argue.
Hard to argue.
And it's just ludicrous.
There's no other way to put it than like Alex needs to be so against this.
And all he can muster up is, it's bold.
Let's see what happens.
jordan holmes
I mean, crazy.
I think what I like most about us being here is that we are here because no one had any courage 10 years ago.
You know, we are here because they're further.
Well, for sure, for sure.
But the courage you would have needed to be like, hey, we all know where it's going with this Trump guy.
Let's actually finish this off.
Let's get this out of here.
The election was bullshit.
Roger Stonen is going to stay in prison for the rest of his life.
Like all of that shit.
And because of that, we are here.
dan friesen
Yeah, there are simpler and less brave decisions that could have been made long ago.
And yeah, there's a crisis of shit that happened then.
jordan holmes
Yep.
What you going to do?
dan friesen
So Alex, he just gets caught up thinking about how right he always is and how people are mean to him.
jordan holmes
Fashion.
dan friesen
In every way.
Gotta Shut Up 00:09:20
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I mean, I had John Kiryaku, former CIA section chief, you know, counterterrorism head, you name it.
And he was just like, wow, this is incredible.
You know every angle of this.
Unlike all the other talk shows he talks to.
He was like, absolutely right.
Absolutely right.
Absolutely right.
He's been stationed all in the Middle East for decades.
Absolutely right, absolutely right, absolutely right, absolutely right, absolutely right, absolutely right.
So see, I call balls and strikes.
You don't make something up about somebody because you don't like them.
You report the facts that are there so people can navigate who the factions are and who they are.
Like the average person that they, the average right-winger that only hates Israel and only knows about Israel, didn't know about China, didn't know about any other blocks of power.
They'll say, let's ally with the Muslims.
They're anti-Israel.
I'm like, do you even know the blocks of the Muslims?
Do you even know what their plans are?
You know what the Muslim brother is?
You know what the Shiites are?
You know who the reformists are, the UAE?
And now Saudi Arabia?
I mean, you don't.
You know what an Arabist is?
No, you don't know that stuff.
You don't know what the Levant affair was.
You don't know all this stuff.
And I'm not trying to be mean to you.
It's just holy shit.
Like, you guys out there, the right-wing, pro-Israel fake right-wing, calling me a Qatari agent, you guys are idiots.
The people claiming I'm an Israeli agent.
Horse shit.
The whole right-wing and left-wing Jewish lobby is the ones helping sue me.
You're getting the real info.
Who else told you Iran would say they had nukes when they got hit?
Have the archives find it.
I bet I said it 10 times last week.
And if what I said happened today, I'm just telling you, for our own future, people better start listening to me.
I don't want to sit it up and explain how rot I am every day to people.
It's self-evident.
And that's why people tune in.
But I care about all of you, you stupid, fake Christian Zionist, right-wing, fake dumbasses.
jordan holmes
Is it their fault?
alex jones
And then all the crazy Nazis that don't know any facts and have low IQs and just want to say everybody works for Israel when they don't.
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
Well, I think everybody cares about you.
unidentified
I care about you, man.
dan friesen
You have a bad audience.
You have cultivated a bad audience by chasing Twitter attention compulsively.
You have no one to blame but yourself that you're screaming at these Nazis that you've tried to appeal to.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
Like, yes, they're all like the two sides of your audience are narrow in their focus.
Yes, because your show sucks.
jordan holmes
You know, one way of thinking about complaining, right, is that people complain about things that intersect with their lives regularly.
So you may complain about somebody whom you love, but by virtue of complaining about them, they are part of your life.
They are meaningful and they're worth being part of your life.
If all you are complaining about is Nazis, take a think about that.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Take a think.
dan friesen
I will complain about Survivor till the day I die.
unidentified
See?
dan friesen
And I recognize that that means there's a part of me that likes it even though it's bad.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
Alex, you like these Nazis.
jordan holmes
You like the Nazis.
You can't stop it.
dan friesen
So how about that Constitution?
jordan holmes
What about it?
dan friesen
You ever think about it?
jordan holmes
Not anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess it's not that important anymore.
alex jones
So let's go to Trump briefly because I just want to get it on record.
You're going to watch the whole eight minute, but he's like, capitulate or you're all dead.
This is totally.
jordan holmes
A thing you should say.
alex jones
And this violates not just international law because screwed globalist law.
This violates the Constitution.
Where is the war powers?
This is not war declared.
When you say, we're hitting you first, we claim you've got this just like Iraq, which they do in this case.
You're like, well, that's pro-war then.
Just report the facts.
When you do that, you got to have congressional authorization.
Notice they're having their vote next week on the war powers.
I said, watch Trump will hit him before that.
So legally.
This is unconstitutional.
And you're like, well, then you're for the Moolah.
No, I'm for the rule.
Either we have a Constitution or we don't.
unidentified
And I'm sorry.
alex jones
The real world's complex and gives you a headache.
It gives me one, too.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
So Alex has said very clearly that Trump is violating the Constitution and he's launched an illegal war now because he knew that Congress was going to vote to limit his war powers later, at which point it might not be able to act on the desire unilaterally to make war.
jordan holmes
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
It's good to have that on record.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But you notice the way that Alex shifts the conversation at the end there.
It's a subtle rhetorical trick he uses to evade the conclusions of his arguments, where he says that Trump has violated the Constitution.
And then the imaginary response he gets to that is, oh, so you support the Mullahs?
The actual response to him openly acknowledging that Trump has violated the Constitution in order to launch an illegal war is, so now Trump has to be arrested, right?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Based on everything Alex has advocated for and believes, the next thought after this indictment of Trump is that he must be deposed.
He's an enemy of the Constitution, and the Constitution is the only thing that guarantees any of our rights, so he has to go.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But Alex can't turn on Trump.
He's trapped in a place where he can't go against Trump, but he also can't possibly get on his show and pretend that attacking Iran and killing the Ayatollah isn't a brazenly illegal international incident.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He would look like the most dishonest and incoherent idiot if he tried to justify the attack on its merits, but he's also going to look like a dishonest and incoherent idiot if he allows the argument he needs to make against the war to play out to its natural conclusion.
So the strategy here is just to hijack your own argument by imagining you're debating an idiot.
No one cares if Alex supports or doesn't support the mullahs, particularly in the context of him discussing Trump clearly violating the Constitution.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex making that the imagined rebuttal here only serves to get him off the hook for needing to, at very least, call for Trump's impeachment.
And at most, possibly denounce his fantasies about God and retire from public life because he has brought us to this.
unidentified
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex was a critical piece of a media infrastructure that brought us to this point.
And he needs to take responsibility for that if he wants to make these kinds of arguments.
jordan holmes
Now, I have an interesting question.
All right.
The World Cup is happening here.
dan friesen
Maybe not.
jordan holmes
Does this count?
Does that count as sports washing?
You know what I mean?
If everybody who has really enjoyed talking shit about Saudi Arabia has to acknowledge that we're the sports washers of all sports washers, then do they have to shut the fuck up finally?
dan friesen
Man, yeah, it's a that's a tough call, right?
jordan holmes
That's a tough, that's a tough I just think that realistically, now I would like more people to shut the fuck up.
Like, what's the point of a news show if it's not going like, oh, well, when you break the Constitution, you gotta, you gotta go.
That's the most law, right?
dan friesen
It's supposed to be.
jordan holmes
It's the most law.
There are other laws, but that one's the most.
dan friesen
And the thing about it is it's self-defining.
You know, like if somebody is doing things that you are calling unconstitutional, then they are disqualified immediately from holding a position that is about the Constitution.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So you can't have a situation where Alex is saying that this is a flagrantly unconstitutional, illegal war that Trump has launched and have any piece of he deserves to stay in power.
jordan holmes
You bet.
dan friesen
And that's what he's trying to do.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He's trying to navigate that.
And it's just, it's, it's, you can't.
jordan holmes
You know, I would say, I would say the same thing is true for people who are like, well, this has happened, and now we're going to go talk about Trump's tariffs at four.
dan friesen
Which are also unconstitutional.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
Like, at this point, I don't care unless we're going to do the stuff, right?
Like, what's the point of telling me about what he's doing unless it's also, and now we're going to go do the stuff?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
The Constitution has to matter or it doesn't.
jordan holmes
Or it doesn't.
And if it doesn't, that's also like, you just got to let me know.
dan friesen
And it's a terrifying prospect if you all are saying that it doesn't.
Because if it doesn't, a lot of people have a lot of rights that are unprotected.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
And I mean, but at the same time, you know, they were only theoretically protected if they can be unprotected this quick with no action.
dan friesen
True.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's true.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I think that Alex recognizes that, like, ah, shit, there's no way to say that this isn't a violation of the Constitution.
I think I got to start softening up to JD Vance.
unidentified
It's going to save us.
alex jones
Folks, on the web have put out another amazing little piece.
Softening Up to JD Vance 00:02:05
alex jones
It's a trailer for a classic 1980s football movie that people now actually want to crowdfund and actually put out.
And for the for seeing it, we know this is AI.
This isn't real.
Okay, this is a joke, but this is JD Vance, the football star.
dan friesen
So it's an AI video that's way too long of JD Vance being a football player, and Nicholas Cage is his history teacher.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And Sidney Sweeney is the hot girl that he wants to go out with.
And Alex is his coach.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's about him succeeding.
And so I think that they're like how a big part of selling Trump to everybody was this dumb meme shit.
And I think you can feel Alex almost being like, oh, this is my work.
Maybe, maybe we'll of some sort.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's a little transparent.
jordan holmes
It is.
That is probably the most dystopian thing I've ever had described to me before.
Just like Alex being stoked about an AI-created video that is designed to make what you want or what you have described to me as a desirable thing for people.
And then we all just live in this world.
dan friesen
And I have to say this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Whoever made it, I can't tell if it's a great sense of humor or a sign of being a total idiot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But the characters who are in it are Sidney Sweeney, who's a big movie star.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Nicholas Cage, who's a huge movie star.
Terry Cruz appears as a janitor.
jordan holmes
Pretty solid, but it's brief.
He's had a good career.
dan friesen
And then Alex.
It's quite a jump of celebrities and then crazy idiots.
jordan holmes
That's one of the great drop-offs in total quality of output I think I've ever seen.
dan friesen
Nicholas Cage has won an Oscar.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He was also in Knowing.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
The greatest uh-oh, 9112001.
dan friesen
Perfect reveal.
jordan holmes
Perfect reveal.
It's Wild How Quickly 00:05:24
dan friesen
So yeah, anyway, I guess we're going to see him softened to Vance.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
So Alex.
jordan holmes
Vance won't do anything unconstitutional.
That's the problem.
dan friesen
He's good.
jordan holmes
He's too good.
dan friesen
Also, Alex doesn't bring it up, but, you know, remember he was talking about how Trump doesn't do those masturbatory photo shoots of himself in the situation room.
jordan holmes
He doesn't.
dan friesen
He did a lot of that.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, Obama was famous for that.
So he's probably just doing a thing about Obama.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
It was like an ironic.
dan friesen
Yeah, much like that AI video.
Ironic.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So Alex's son cancels or got bumped.
I'm not sure.
But Breanna Morello comes in.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And she hosts the former Harrison Smith show now that Owen's gone and Harrison has moved to the B slot.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And she sucks.
jordan holmes
I believe that.
alex jones
But now that we're committed, now that the barn door is open, the quicker, the better, because this is dangerous as hell.
breanna morello
Yeah, you got to get in there and you got to make it quick and then get out as quickly as possible.
But they've been good at that.
I mean, they proved that with Venezuela that they're people are capable of doing just that.
alex jones
But here's the problem.
With communists, they're just programmed to get money and like to be bullies.
With the Muslims, and the analysts believe, and I agree with them, that the Republican Guard that then controls Hezbollah, it actually runs everything, they're more hardcore than the Mulas.
So you decapitate the Mulas.
That's why Trump's telling their guard, you give up, you'll be destroyed.
If not, we'll give you total amnesty.
So it all hinges on those guys.
breanna morello
Yeah.
No, it does.
It does.
And we'll have to just wait and see how that all plays out.
But again, I mean, the president's looking to keep this going for a couple more weeks, too.
It looks like it sounded like he had like a long-term.
alex jones
Well, I mean, it's going to go.
It's full commitment.
I mean, this is Vietnam.
breanna morello
Yeah.
alex jones
I think we'll be in five years if they don't fall.
I mean, that's great.
Let me tell you.
Even if Trump was taken out of office with him, once the U.S. commits to something that, it's all our credibility is on the line.
It's like Russia with Ukraine.
They're not going to give up.
We are, we are.
jordan holmes
They're going to give up.
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
Yeah.
No, we are officially in it.
And, you know, I know members of Congress, both on the left and the right, are very fired up about this because they didn't have congressional approval.
alex jones
Yeah, notice that we're going to have the vote next week at war powers.
Too late.
breanna morello
Too late.
I think Hollywood activated this pretty quickly, though, it looks like.
And again, I mean, the president was at Mar-a-Lago yesterday having an event and doing meet and greets with folks until about 11 p.m. yesterday.
I mean, James O'Keefe also posted on X that he had a brief conversation with the president at Mar-a-Lago yesterday before all this went down.
So this guy's got so much energy and he's been gearing up for this for quite some time, it looks like.
dan friesen
You all seem pretty positive about this, honestly.
I feel the vibe is not negative, even though Alex said this is flagrantly unconstitutional.
jordan holmes
I mean, the moment you say this is Vietnam, the conversation should go, and that's why this is a bad idea.
It's terrible.
It's awful.
It's not going to help anybody.
It's horrible.
It's just going to be murder.
It's going to be a quagmire.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, we have not learned any lessons.
jordan holmes
Nope, none.
Not one.
Not fucking one.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
That is.
dan friesen
So I think that you see pretty quick acceptance of this is happening, so we better do it hard.
And that's not good.
jordan holmes
I genuinely believe that Trump should be allowed to.
I don't like any of the moves that he's made.
But based on what he's done, he should get to a she should get to pants every congressperson.
He should get to drop their pants, and then everybody should see their genitalia on TV.
dan friesen
I forgot to mention that was the second half of the State of the Union.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
Because if I was ever so ineffectual and pointless as Congress is right now, I would have to leave the country.
dan friesen
Ted Cruz got his pants pulled down?
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And he had antsy pants on underneath.
jordan holmes
Hilarious.
dan friesen
You remember?
jordan holmes
They should all be able to do that.
dan friesen
Mary Coldwater made those underwear.
He made gag underwear.
unidentified
That's right.
jordan holmes
Mary Coldwater did make underwear.
dan friesen
And that's what Ted Cruz is trying to reference.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is all bad.
jordan holmes
I'm a senator.
Yeah, sure you are, bud.
Sure, you are.
Oh, isn't that cute?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex worries here a little bit that Trump might be overconfident.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Like a Hitler kind of guy.
breanna morello
Well, it's been quite impressive to see thus far, though, I have to say.
And, you know, obviously we're not rooting for a war.
We're not rooting for regime change.
But if we're already knee-deep in this.
alex jones
No, I get it.
It's like the Martians are attacked.
They're more advanced than us.
I get we're way more advanced than that.
jordan holmes
Except for we attacked the Martians and killed their leader.
alex jones
I'm not comparing us to Hitler, but military-wise, Hitler won the first, you know, Czechoslovakia, Poland, and then and then France, and then he got overconfident.
And I'm a little worried about that.
breanna morello
Yeah.
alex jones
Because then, remember, Wade in the Wings is China and Russia.
So that's my concern here.
dan friesen
Interesting that that's where your mind goes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, we got to really amend a lot of movies from the United States perspective where we're all more like, you need to be more empathetic towards the Nazis.
They had a really rough go.
Sure, they were following illegal orders, but let's face it, we'll all do that.
We're all basically useless pieces of shit.
dan friesen
that's what happens you know I mean I think Hitler was overconfident Yep.
jordan holmes
I think that was probably at least one of his top five problems.
Power's Zero-Sum Game 00:15:08
dan friesen
This conversation that they're having is just, it's ludicrous.
jordan holmes
It's wild how quickly that happened.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
It's wild how quickly they're like, well, now that we're in it, we got to stick with it.
dan friesen
It was today.
We're knee deep in Vietnam, and so we must commit to it.
unidentified
All right.
What?
dan friesen
That's not Alex.
That's not Infowars.
That's not what they're supposed to be.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Here's another plan that is equally as reasonable.
All right.
We get a giant circus cannon.
We put Trump into it and we aim at Iran.
And if he gets there, they can handle it.
And if he doesn't, they know we've taken care of the problem.
dan friesen
I mean, you know, I think that 2026 requires innovative solutions.
unidentified
I think so.
dan friesen
Creative problem solving.
You know, there are options that in the past would have looked impossible.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
It's not going to solve any problem.
jordan holmes
Absurd.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Absurd.
How could you say that, you clown?
dan friesen
Right.
Anyway, Breanna Morello sucks.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that she is advocating for basically rounding up Muslims, maybe.
unidentified
Great.
breanna morello
Now, again, just to kind of like walk through the future coming out and saying that we are, in fact, keeping our eye out for any sleeper cells that might actually start popping up.
But I don't think they actually have a real handle on this number at this point.
A lot of these individuals, according to sources I've spoken to, do hide out in a lot of these Muslim compounds that are popping up all across the state of Texas, but more specifically these mosques, because they theme that they are actually immune thanks to the Constitution to kind of being surveilled.
So that's been a big one.
It's where are these people?
They think that these ICE raids and these raids that are taking place all across the country will not be carried through at mosques if they're hiding in a place of worship.
It's up to the American people, though, to start wondering if Islam is even a religion.
I would argue, no, it's not.
And so I think that doesn't apply to them.
I think our federal government should be raiding these mosques.
dan friesen
Okay.
So.
jordan holmes
We got to Japanese internment camp at record speed.
This has been a day for these folks.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Islam isn't a religion.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Dude, I mean, like, one of the things that I was listening to when, or when I was thinking when I was listening to this, is like, I wish I knew how old Breanna Morello is.
Because I have no idea.
I've seen her, but I have no idea how old she is.
But I would forgive this of somebody who's like 23 and younger, maybe.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But if anybody was of any adult age during the Iraq war and during that like early mid-2000s period, you are just doing the same thing.
You're just doing the same fucking washed over Islamophobic shit that you're supposed to understand was part of a propaganda campaign to demonize a population.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You have to be so young for me to look past you saying stuff like this.
jordan holmes
It is like, okay, fine.
Then just say you want to slaughter some people and today it's Muslims and then tomorrow it'll be this type of brown person.
You just want to slaughter people.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Out groups.
You get to determine what they are and they don't have rights.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
Great.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Thank you.
dan friesen
So look, it's just, it feels like we're 20 years in the past.
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
They do quite have a nice facility, a nice little area that they've been able to build up over these last few years.
In fact, if you drive through Epic and Plano, you'll notice that their street signs are all actually named after Islamic conquerors.
And that's not a coincidence, folks.
These people came here with the goal of conquering the West United States.
Now they've weaponized our Constitution against the American people.
And that's the thing that we need to be pushing back on again.
We need to continue to go out there and say that we're not going to allow this to happen.
We're not going to sit there and allow them to pretend like they are a religion of peace, a religion at all.
They have done their very best to build up here in the homeland of what they have next for us.
dan friesen
So when she says epic, that's in reference to East Plano Islamic Center.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I think it's shocking the way that, you know, we listen to this and it feels exactly like 20 years ago.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And we listened to 20 years ago episodes and it feels like it's pointing a finger at the present.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I don't like that.
jordan holmes
I mean, it does go to show you just how right they were about 9-11 being a perfect opportunity to do what they wanted to do anyways.
He's like, because we were all so fucking hit by that, we weren't really capable or prepared to do anything but have some sort of like patriotic feeling, even whenever they're lying us into a war, because there's still like that, yeah, it's all of us together, right?
dan friesen
And this is in some way process is being directed slightly.
jordan holmes
And even then, you can feel empathy for the people who are making the clearly wrong decision because it's like, well, fuck.
Shit got blown up in your place.
I get it, right?
But man, now without without that 9-11, with just Bush lying us into a blow-up the Iran war, yeah, fuck them.
Fuck them.
dan friesen
It feels insane.
jordan holmes
Fuck them and fuck the U.S. and fuck Congress and fuck the, fuck all of you.
I'm out.
That's what everybody should be saying.
Like, no, no, no, no, we've done this before.
I'm out.
I'm out.
dan friesen
We've done it too recently.
jordan holmes
Too recently.
I was still alive.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to explaining how this is the war at the end of the cycle.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And great.
Good for you, man.
alex jones
We're at the end of a global order.
The financial system was designed to be a fraud and collapse into a new world order.
Great reset to make us all poor social credit score.
But China, 16, 17 years ago, double-crossed the globalists, broke away from their plan, kind of stole their plan.
They weren't supposed to expand militarily, just control economics, and have middlemen with the globalists.
The West, NATO, the U.S. were still supposed to control the military.
That was the balance of power.
China double-crossed.
We had the China pivot.
It wasn't real under Obama.
Trump never got it going.
It was Flynn's first warned us what happened.
Then we started it now.
And so the globalist system began to fall with that.
Then populist movements woke up to it.
We helped do that.
Exposed the tyranny of the unelected EU and the rest of it.
And so that old system is dying.
And into this vacuum now comes this new system.
And Trump is coming into the vacuum, exerting American power over our hemisphere against our enemies.
Sure, Israel has its policies and its reasons for doing all of this.
But at the end of the day, I know Trump is doing the best he can.
He believes he's doing the right thing.
There's so many dangers.
I wouldn't have done this.
But I do see where that's coming from.
And I do understand the bigger picture that when we say that there's a great danger, there is a great danger because the old economic system is in free fall.
The globalists were to cut off the energy and make us poor to control as Trump's trying to turn the economy back on like the fibulators when somebody has a heart attack.
And so when you have that historically, all these different governments and power blocks, they go to war.
dan friesen
That's a fun story that Alex is telling.
And I don't particularly care to bicker about these ideas because the larger point should be who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex's point should be who cares?
None of this means anything.
Or conversely, nothing he said before does.
He's already said on this episode that Trump has launched an illegal war that violates the Constitution.
Now he's trying to explain away why that's okay.
And I don't particularly care about that justification.
Either the Constitution matters or something else matters more.
And for 30 years, he's been yelling about how the Constitution is the most important holy document that humans have ever created.
The Bible might be more important, but that was divine in origin.
So the Constitution, that's as good as we're going to get.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The Constitution isn't a fair weather document.
It's not a set of rules that a leader has to follow, except when they think something's more important than they got to do.
According to Alex's belief system, a leader must follow the Constitution or else their leadership is illegitimate.
You don't get to say, I know this violates the Constitution, but I need to violate the Constitution or else the economy will be hurt.
If you ever accept that as a compelling argument, then rights don't exist.
Or at least they don't when they're in conflict with the economy.
If you believe in the Constitution, then a leader cannot set aside the Constitution for the country's own good.
Conversely, if you believe that a leader can violate the Constitution for the country's own good, then you don't get to pretend you care about the Constitution.
The zealotry of Alex's patriotism and originalist bullshit from early in his career is strongly at odds with the character that he needs to play now.
And that's because the stuff in the past was a fraud.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Doesn't matter.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This means anything.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Power.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, it is, it is like the idea of the Constitution is supposed to be just consequences.
You do, can't do.
Right?
And so that idea of, okay, I want to violate the Constitution because if I don't, then the economy will go down.
The Constitution says the consequences for you doing a bad job is the economy is hurt.
You shouldn't have sucked so bad.
The Constitution isn't here to like help you not suck.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
But on the other hand, it's a real old document.
It's like so old.
unidentified
So old.
So old.
jordan holmes
And we've already amended it to make people drink and then make people not drink and then make people drink again.
dan friesen
In fairness, they never made people drink.
It wasn't like the amendment saying you have to.
jordan holmes
Was that not a well?
Okay, fair enough.
I may have gotten that one wrong.
dan friesen
I think that, like, okay, so we imagine the Constitution is like rules.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And in reality, they're like wrestling referees.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Where it's like everyone knows you can just sort of, if the referee falls down, if the Supreme Court is looking the other direction, oh no, he's cheating, but the Supreme Court didn't see it.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Nope.
What you're gonna do?
dan friesen
Anyway, this is gonna get Trump some big old props.
jordan holmes
I bet.
dan friesen
From other authoritarian rulers.
alex jones
Well, the Shiites, even if Iran doesn't order them to attack, I think you're gonna see Shiites attack.
breanna morello
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
Well, that's.
alex jones
I mean, I think, I mean, I would be surprised if by tonight we don't see some shootings or bombings.
breanna morello
I hope that doesn't happen, but I got I would assume an immediate response.
I mean, they just killed their supreme leader.
If that report is true, then yeah, I mean, I can't see a situation where they would not want to come out swinging at us.
And so that would be probably what's happening.
I mean, they brought them here for a reason, Alex.
They didn't bring them here just so they could find a nice place to live.
They brought them here for this purpose alone.
So if there's no response here, that wouldn't make any sense to me.
alex jones
Well, one-dimensionally, I don't like the Mulas.
They're unpopular.
They're evil.
They want to kill us.
All that.
One-dimensionally, I'd be glad if they left.
It all worked out.
But the reason the chairman of the Joint Chief said, I'll do it if you say it, but I'm against it.
The reason the founder of head of announcing their new names, but Blackwater is like, don't do it, is because there's so many unknowns.
It's a roll of the dice.
But I'll tell you, this will get Trump major respect with China and Russia and others that he did this, which I'm not endorsing absolutely in every angle of this.
This is real.
I don't give a fuck stuff from Trump.
And in a way, it stabilizes things and also in a way it destabilizes things.
Only time will tell.
But this is historic.
I mean, this is a big deal.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
If Biden attacked Iran and killed the Ayatollah, would Alex be saying that we have to see how this plays out and rambling about how the attack brought Biden a bunch of respect with Russia and China?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
To be clear, I don't say that to point out hypocrisy.
I just want to illustrate a point that's behind all of the times where someone like Alex appears to be hypocritical.
They're playing a rhetorical game that's difficult to not get sucked into if you're a sincere person because they are weaponizing sincerity.
When they're attacking someone, principle is the only thing that matters.
How could Obama or Biden dare even consider violating the precious Constitution?
Even if I support the end goal of everything they claim to be doing, the way they're going about it is wrong.
And because of that, they need to be impeached and maybe killed.
On the flip side, when the mission is to protect the power that they associate with, principle no longer matters, and you're a fool for not seeing the bigger picture.
Rules are meant to be broken.
Sometimes you have to break the letter of the law in order to uphold the spirit of the law.
There's dangers.
It's not hypocrisy because in both instances, the person in Alex's position doesn't give a shit about the thing they're attacking or defending.
The arguments are kind of just a distraction from the point, which is that Alex views power as a zero-sum game, and he's willing to do whatever it takes to keep as much of it on the side that he feels protects his interests.
And that's what's more important behind the hypocrisy.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it's so interesting to me that I can't imagine a more 25th Amendment scenario could not exist than crazy 80-year-old man defies constitution and blows up leader of other nations.
dan friesen
Other 80-year-old man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, right?
Like, that is the definition of maybe, maybe we're all crazy.
We're all crazy.
It is in a lot of ways our fault that the human race has gotten to here.
So maybe we're all just nuts.
dan friesen
I mean, who knows?
I mean, we've been recording for like a little over an hour.
Maybe it has happened.
Maybe the 25th has been.
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Who knows?
dan friesen
I don't put anything past anybody anymore.
So if you were to guess based on his career, what would you think?
What's Alex's position on regime change?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, I assume that if the regime is, God damn it, we all know.
dan friesen
I think that actually he sums it up fairly well, which is, man.
alex jones
Well, because the Moodles are so unpopular, reportedly Israel has over 100,000 spies in Iran.
breanna morello
That's impressive.
alex jones
Officially on the payroll.
jordan holmes
That's just a group.
alex jones
Yeah, I mean, I think that's the issue here is that they're so infiltrated that I mean, I mean, I hope now that it's happened, people say, oh, you were for regime change.
No, now that we've, now that it's done, yeah, I don't want to do Vietnam.
Yeah, now I want to count.
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
Well, you can't back out of this right now.
Like, we're all in.
jordan holmes
Why not?
You can totally back out of your ass.
Back out.
Back out right now.
breanna morello
Exactly.
dan friesen
This isn't a sincere position.
You can't be principally opposed to regime change until a tyrannical leader you support launches an illegal war and then say, oh, we hope for the best.
This is just a coward's gamble where Alex can't denounce Trump for violating the Constitution, and he's too scared to just admit that he wants Trump to conquer the world to make it safe to be white again.
Push and Pull 00:14:31
dan friesen
Make him feel like, oh, no one's going to hurt me.
It's pathetic.
And these people, they should be ashamed.
jordan holmes
Like, so, okay, here's the other thing, right?
Imagine you're an 80-year-old woman in Iran, right?
You grew up with the U.S.-backed Shah spending everybody's money on military equipment they were never going to use.
Then you overthrew that, all mad at the United States.
You got stuck with the theocracy that was a real bummer for a long time.
But all throughout all of this stuff, it's been kind of a push and pull.
And then finally, the United States does it.
Like, why not go bug fuck?
Like, just go absolutely ape shit insane because there's no way that you can then, like, at the end of this, be like, okay, now we're friends with Israel.
dan friesen
Well, at the, right, you know, you can take control of your citary.
jordan holmes
Right, but you could.
But even then, that taking control of my city also includes going bug fuck insane on the U.S.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't, I don't, when I hear, when I hear something like Trump say, you know, like, hey, take control of the government.
This is your one opportunity or whatever.
Like, I don't hear that and think, oh, a actual government that isn't in line with U.S. interests will be totally tolerated here.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
You know, like, it's such a comical and stupid thing that I don't know what I would do if I was in that hypothetical woman's position that you're describing.
I wouldn't think in any way that this is a turn towards a more representative government or some sign of progress.
This is just a lot of death.
jordan holmes
There's no other way to see this than the United States and Israel at the end of this, if they win, own all of Iran, period.
Like, it's all theirs.
Or a lot of people have gotten rich and a lot of people have died and then we're right back at square one.
dan friesen
So the unfortunate thing is no matter what, the UK, they won't say anything about this.
jordan holmes
I bet they'll say something like, hey, you shouldn't have.
dan friesen
They're too scared.
jordan holmes
Well, fair enough.
breanna morello
I think it's interesting to watch the UK government kind of respond to all of this, too.
They don't want any say in it, but you know why that's the case?
Because they've been outnumbered over in the UK.
I mean, they brought in so many Muslims and their people are unarmed that they wouldn't be able to defend themselves.
Here in Texas, though, if these people tried to mess with us, we'd be able to handle our own.
alex jones
Exactly.
The Second Amendment, God bless it.
Notice even the communist German leader Mears is like, no, Iran, you need to stand down.
And the Muslim countries are lining up against Iran.
I mean, it does look like they're about to be toppled.
I wonder how fast it's going to happen.
I mean, I don't want to count our chickens before they're hatched here.
dan friesen
Counting our chickens before they hatch is an interesting expression to use to describe the results of an illegal war you're pretending to be against, but, oh, well.
jordan holmes
What you're going to do?
dan friesen
Incidentally, on Sunday, France, Britain, and Germany all announced that they'll support the United States and allies in the region against Iran.
I guess Brianna's dumb shit about the UK being too scared to do anything is just kind of her projecting her own racism onto the world.
Well, there's too many Muslims there.
jordan holmes
You know, you can just say shit.
You can just say shit now.
She is absolutely out of her mind.
Like, this is a person who's not expressing some sort of global situation.
She is like, if I see a Muslim person on the street, I am afraid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, this is a person who is really fucked up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The extent to which she seems like quite fucked up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It makes me feel bad that her show was so low quality that I just didn't even really listen to it much after the switch up with Harrison.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe it deserves another look.
jordan holmes
Maybe we'll find some real insane shit in there.
dan friesen
It was pretty unwatchable, even to try and dig out whatever these opinions are.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
So anyway, the globalist order, it's over.
Globalists are done.
alex jones
Well, the whole globalist order's over.
I know that.
The old system's gone.
The question is, what's the new system that's going to get built?
breanna morello
Yeah, well, we'll have to see what that looks like.
I think a lot of people are going to fear President Trump, though, if this does actually happen.
If this did actually happen, they're going to be very fearful of this man who goes around and he's taking out leaders that are obviously against the American agenda and looking to cause us harm.
But again, we're not sitting here with this on.
I think this is way too risky and for the American people in the homeland, our friends.
dan friesen
If the globalist order is truly over, then Alex's argument about what it'll be replaced with has already been answered.
Trump has launched an illegal war in violation of the Constitution.
That's what's going to replace the old order.
Unchecked elitist oligarchical power masquerading as government.
That is it.
And you support it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
To Brianna's point that she's trying to make, you do support this.
You love every bit of it.
And the dead giveaway is that your complaint is that attacking Iran is too risky.
It's a cost-benefit analysis of whether it's worth it for Trump to kill world leaders unilaterally, not a matter of whether or not it's right for us to behave like this on the world stage.
I can't stress this enough.
She works for InfoWars.
It's not like this is an outlet that has a nuanced and complicated discussion about political figures and trends.
It's an embarrassing network in decline that does the bidding of the current dominant power structure.
But it's also an outlet that made a name for itself by opposing the Iraq war and Bush.
If Alex had never done that, his bullshit would have been lost in the dustbin of history, as every listener who wasn't a right-wing extremist or crypto-racist wouldn't give him the time of day.
Back then, if you wanted conspiracy silliness, Coast Coast AM did it better.
If you wanted right-wing talk radio, Rush and Hannity did that better.
Alex only ever had the slightest place in the market because he combined those two with a coat of paint over the top of not liking Bush.
That confused people and let conspiracy-minded folks who were on the center or in the left think that maybe Alex wasn't one of the bad ones.
It doesn't matter if Alex or his employees support the attack on Iran.
Any position other than hostile opposition to it is a betrayal of what this network means.
And that's functionally support for the attack for regime change and for a worldwide Trump empire.
And that's all that matters.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Cares about like pretending that, oh, you saying I support the Mullahs?
No, I don't give a shit.
You're betraying yourself.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I, you know, I'm trying to think about the logic of like, all right, so Crazy Man blew up a country.
Now that that's done, it's about protecting the homeland, right?
Like the level of thinking that you have to get there is also, but that's also really what it is.
It's like, I want complete protection from consequences.
This deserves a fucked up response.
He did some fucked up shit.
I know that the equivalent law and order position is, well, now they get to do some fucked up shit.
And I don't want them to do it to me.
I want to always be able to fuck them up.
And I never want them to fuck me up is a truly like, oh, well, then let's just move to Narnia.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, I guess that.
I mean, you're basically describing exactly like what InfoWars believes about.
All sorts of issues.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
I guess that it is really just we want to assault people and assert our own will and then never take responsibility for our actions or face any consequences.
Great.
So there's a question in the air that lingers, and that is, is this a broken promise from Trump?
jordan holmes
Is that a was that a question?
dan friesen
It is.
And the answer is yes.
And even they know it.
alex jones
Now, regime change Venezuela.
He says it isn't, but that's what it is.
And now this, I know he said he did say never a nuclear weapon.
So he was on record saying he wouldn't allow that, but now he's full regime change.
So I think Trump is breaking a promise here.
breanna morello
Yeah, I mean, it seems like that.
But again, you have to go all in.
And by the way, it looks like Fox News is also confirming that there are five to ten top Iranian leaders who have been killed in the initial strikes.
That's what they're saying right now.
That was a strike at one of their compounds.
alex jones
Let's get this out on X.
I want to repost this.
We're live.
Put that back up, guys.
Yeah, let's listen to the killed.
Go ahead.
breanna morello
Yeah, so that's what they're saying.
This is coming from Jennifer Griffin, who obviously is not a friendly to the Pentagon, but she's coming out and saying that confirming that there's either five to ten top Iranian officials killed.
dan friesen
It's so easy the way she says a person is not a friendly.
I think she categorizes media that way as who are the unfriendlies and who are the friendlies.
jordan holmes
Feels very much about not so much the content of one's character.
dan friesen
This is journalisms.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the good stuff.
dan friesen
Anyway, promise is broken.
Who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, hey, listen, what politician hasn't broken a promise here or there by blowing up another lady.
unidentified
Come on.
dan friesen
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
Politics is hard.
Sometimes you overpromise and you can't deliver.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And sometimes you got to violate the Constitution.
unidentified
Who knows?
jordan holmes
What you're going to do?
dan friesen
No one's perfect.
jordan holmes
What you're going to do.
dan friesen
So anyway, one of the good pieces of truth is that this is not a pointless war.
All these other wars that Alex has been against have been pointless.
This one isn't pointless.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
That's a dumb distinction, and these people are monsters.
alex jones
There's no doubt these are not completely pointless wars like we had before.
I don't even endorse them.
It's definitely, from Trump's perspective, for America.
I don't know if they can pull it off.
I pray for a military.
I pray for the Iranians.
You know, the Israelis bomb that girls' school killed 85 students.
breanna morello
Yeah, that's the problem.
So I don't know how to feel.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're fine with it.
unidentified
Fuck off.
jordan holmes
You're fine with it.
breanna morello
I can't kill more kids with the news these days.
Both Israel and obviously whoever else are going after these other governments, obviously Iran, I'm including in this one.
It's hard to tell.
It really is hard to tell because a lot of the propaganda comes from both sides of the argument.
You know, they want to pull the emotional strings of people all around the world and say, look, they killed children.
Now, if we don't see any bodies, unfortunately, I'm not going to buy into it.
But again, I mean, I wouldn't say that it's 100% not true, but they always look for these stories that are to pull out the heartstrings of those who are on looking onto these conflicts.
And I think that's the type of story that you put out there if you really wanted to pull out the heartstrings of people all around the world.
dan friesen
Fuck you.
I mean, goddamn.
jordan holmes
That is a true serial killer right there.
That is some good shit.
Like, if you want true crime, that is somebody justifying like leaving 20 bodies in their backyard.
And like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
This is bullshit.
All the mainstream media people are trying to tug on your heartstrings with that one that I killed over there.
Most of them were adult men.
You guys are just bullshit.
dan friesen
I mean, that's one aspect of it.
And then another aspect is like, hey, the media is saying this.
I'm skeptical about it.
I work for the outlet that always calls things fake and lies about shit.
Like, get the fuck out of here.
Then there's another aspect of it that is, hey, until I see bodies, I'm not going to be swayed by the emotional appeal of this.
And once I see bodies, I'm going to come up with an excuse for it.
Like, don't try and pretend that you're some stickler for the hard truth.
You don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
I mean, that is, we've tried.
We've tried to see if there's a bottom, right?
And I think it's been debated over way too much as to like, oh, is this when they're getting off?
Right.
Or even like, oh, look, these people are saying that they're getting off.
And it's like, no, this is what it is.
This is what they are.
They signed on.
They're into it.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
And everybody who says they're not into it is full of shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And if you enable them to pretend that they weren't into it, once it becomes unsustainable, you are doing the bidding of bullshit fucking liars.
And we're going to be back.
jordan holmes
We're going to be back here.
dan friesen
Yeah, don't accept that.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We're going to be back in the situation right at the start of literally every war where everybody goes, ah, not like the last one.
The last one killed a lot of people and then it didn't end all wars.
This one, we're going to nail at this time.
dan friesen
So obviously, I don't know what's going to happen.
And I have no geopolitical insight that can tell you, oh, here's, here's, oh, this domino is going to fall over here.
But I do think that it's, it's very, it feels very difficult to over-dramatize the killing of the Ayatollah.
That seems like a very big thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so I worry about like how the chips are going to fall.
I do.
I don't know what's going to happen, but I don't think that this has more ripple effects than kidnapping Maduro.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
For sure.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And I think that has a lot of ripple effects.
jordan holmes
Now, let me throw this out there.
All right.
Let's say because it's, you know, you don't want to get too much of a reaction.
You don't want people to feel like, oh, it's all about the Ayatollah, right?
So Israel and the U.S. next stop, blow up the Pope.
Handle that one.
Then get the Dalai Lama.
Get a few more religious leaders in there.
Otherwise, people are going to think it's bigoted.
This isn't bigotry, man.
dan friesen
Well, they can't take out the Pope because the real Pope's been arrested by Leo Sagami.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Or it's easier for them to take out the Pope because they know where he's being kept.
dan friesen
In Chicago.
He's down at the weird circle.
jordan holmes
We switched popes.
We gave you Chicago Pope and brought other Pope into Chicago.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's hiding out, getting a Polish dog.
jordan holmes
All of that Italian food is.
dan friesen
Drag that hot dog through the garden.
jordan holmes
Too much cheese.
Get some relish in you, my man.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I don't know what's going to happen.
I don't want to over, like, I don't want to be overly dramatic and be like, hey, everyone, this is bad.
But at the same time, I don't know how to respond to this appropriately.
Alex's Insane Response 00:01:52
dan friesen
And the fact that Alex is having this response is fucking insane.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So.
jordan holmes
I know how not to respond to it.
unidentified
This.
jordan holmes
I know what an inappropriate response looks like.
dan friesen
And it's wild, too, that Alex's, you know, his response itself is fucking insane.
And then Brianna's response is equally insane.
And also it relies on not learning the lessons that even Alex learned from the Iraq war.
She seems to be ignorant of some of the very basic things that everyone who listens to the show has gone through.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So that's great.
jordan holmes
I guess bloodthirst is greater than any kind of learning ability.
dan friesen
And I feel ripped off that I didn't get to find out what Rex thinks.
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
I bet that's why Rex didn't make it onto the show.
He's really against it.
dan friesen
Or he's gathering his thoughts.
He doesn't want to shoot from the hip.
unidentified
He could be.
jordan holmes
He could be.
Rex is known as a cogitator.
dan friesen
Right.
His words carry import.
jordan holmes
They do.
dan friesen
Alex can talk all the shit he wants, but when his kid says something, that's the ultimate Rex 84.
jordan holmes
Rex 2026.
dan friesen
Anyway.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
We'll find out what happens.
Maybe he'll turn against the war the next day.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
We'll see.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But until then, until we find out, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DaZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a first Tim Caller.
I'm a huge fan.
unidentified
I love your work.
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