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March 6, 2026 - Knowledge Fight
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#1122: March 3, 2026

Dan and Jordan of Knowledge Fight dissect Alex Jones' March 3, 2026 broadcast, critiquing his misinformation on Iran's "Council of 12" and his alignment with Congressman Eric Burleson regarding Epstein files. They challenge Tucker Carlson's narrative blaming Netanyahu for the conflict while exposing Kirk Elliott Precious Metals as a fraud exploiting global chaos. The episode culminates in a heated debate between Jones and Nick Fuentes over voting Democrat to stop Trump, where Jones admits feeling like a child seeking comfort from a "baby Nazi" amidst fears of World War III, highlighting the absurdity of his political delusions. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
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alex jones
infowars 22:33
d
dan friesen
44:39
j
jordan holmes
25:07
Appearances
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eric burlison
rep/r 01:53
n
nick fuentes
02:41
Clips
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donald j trump
admin 00:12
k
kirk elliott
infowars 00:20
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pastor james david manning
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
My Bright Spot 00:04:29
alex jones
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
Knowledgefight.com.
It's time to pray.
donald j trump
And I have great respect for the knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
Shang, we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy and Tandy.
Stop it.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
You're on the earth.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fixed ten color.
Saying I love your room.
donald j trump
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a gobletable dudes.
Like to sit around.
Worship at the altar of Celine.
Talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Oh, I'm going to let you get to yours, I promise.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It's March.
jordan holmes
It is March.
dan friesen
So I'm going to go first.
jordan holmes
All right.
I mean, it is tradition.
dan friesen
I'm going to talk about what my bright spot is.
jordan holmes
All right.
All right.
dan friesen
And I think actually I'm going to do some course correcting with this bright spot.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was too negative about Survivor on the last bright spot.
I think that I was shitting all over this, and I don't feel right.
I was listening back to it when I was editing it.
I'm like, I'm so negative.
And that's not fair.
It's fine.
I do like there's some who cares.
jordan holmes
We're softening.
We're softening.
I remember being able to really hate shit when I was a younger man.
Now I'm like, let people enjoy things.
dan friesen
It's not even that necessarily for me.
It's more that I listened back and I felt like I wasn't being even true to my own opinion.
I was being way too negative and like said this fucking stupid Billie Eilish boomerang.
jordan holmes
It's affirmatively negative.
dan friesen
Without giving due credit to like some of the stuff that's pretty positive.
jordan holmes
Billy Eilish isn't bad.
dan friesen
Sure, I guess.
Boomerangs are cool.
I just think, I think that I wasn't fairly representing my point.
And I don't like to be that negative.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
When there are some positives, the cast's fun.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I'm excited to see some of these people play that game.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, it'll be chaos.
dan friesen
Colby's an old man, and it's really exciting to see him back.
jordan holmes
Here's what I like.
I like a good complicated mechanic that never comes into play.
I love the idea of having the Billie Eilish boomerang idol, and then it's just like, and okay, well, now we didn't really use it in any boomerang fashion.
dan friesen
Well, we don't know if it will.
It might, it might not.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But there, without spoilers, if you haven't seen the most recent episode, but there's a second Billie Eilish boomerang idol.
There's three tribes, so if someone finds one, obviously there's probably going to be three.
Except, like, I thought that they would be different.
I didn't think there would be three boomerang either.
jordan holmes
That is three BBs.
dan friesen
But yeah, so that's that.
Look, I just was too mean.
jordan holmes
It's okay.
It's okay.
You don't need to carry this guilt with you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I forgive you.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
On behalf of Propst.
dan friesen
No, I still hate him.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, then not on his behalf.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is also television related, but it happened earlier today.
We're recording a little late, so I had a little time.
Pull up some, guess what?
Terriers.
You remember Terriers?
dan friesen
Donald Logue.
jordan holmes
Donal Logue.
And I'll tell you something, man.
I fucking love Dodal Logue.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He is the most pleasant screen presence I can remember.
I don't think I've ever seen him in a negative, like, I've never been like, oh, no, Donald Logue.
dan friesen
I can't think of anything really negative.
I think he disappeared from consciousness at some point.
Like, no one has thought about him after a certain point.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But I think he comported himself as a celebrity well.
jordan holmes
Of course.
No, I just, I turned it on.
I saw him and I was like, Donald Logue!
Like, there's no reason.
It's actually a really fun little mystery show.
It's really good.
It's really, really good.
I remember loving it.
I'm looking forward to watching it again.
But what my bright spot is, is just knowing Donald Logue is out there, just still doing it.
Just still being him.
dan friesen
Sure.
I'm so scared to overcommit to this because it's like, I Google this and I'm like.
jordan holmes
At the very least.
At the very least, I have not looked him up within the past five to ten years, and he has not murdered anybody prior to five to ten years ago.
Wear Shoes, Please! 00:04:29
unidentified
True.
jordan holmes
So in the meaning time, yes, maybe he has murdered a bunch of people, but that's not my fault.
dan friesen
He's not somebody that is like people are complaining about a ton, which is in and of itself probably a good thing.
jordan holmes
No news is good news.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
He was on those MTV things, the cab.
jordan holmes
Tomorrow it's going to be like Donald Logue at the Epstein file.
God damn it.
dan friesen
That would be amazing.
jordan holmes
That would be a turn.
dan friesen
Well, I'm glad you're enjoying that.
I'll never watch it, but great.
jordan holmes
It's great.
dan friesen
Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
We're still in the present because another possible forever war has been foisted upon us.
unidentified
What you're going to do.
dan friesen
It's fun to watch and see how Alex is coping.
So we're going to talk about March 3rd, 2026.
But before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walkers.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, your mispronunciation of Ruth Gator Binsburg has created a canon rubbish-dwelling crocodile in my head.
Thank you so much.
You're an Iowa Pazzi Wong.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, shout out to Mark with a C, Preparer of PPAPs, Calibrator of Calipers, Wielder of the Sword of Orion, and Father of the Moon.
Keep your arms wide open.
Thank you so much, Your Not Palsy Walk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And episode 1100 mentions wearing shoes while recording.
So I demand to know if you're from one of those strange places where people wear shoes indoors all the time or if you record in a strange mudroom/slash studio combo.
Thank you so much, Your Not Balzy Walk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I remember when I was growing up in Hawaii, you'd always take off your shoes going in a house.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like it was all very regular.
Then we moved to Missouri and it was less so.
But I think we still took off our shoes a bit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I feel like I don't wear shoes in the house unless someone else is around.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I think it's you.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
You think I am the reason that you wear shoes?
dan friesen
Not your fault.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
You think I'm projecting something on you that I don't want to be around you without shoes on.
jordan holmes
You don't want to be around me without shoes on.
dan friesen
Well, like, I will feel childish.
jordan holmes
You mean you do not want to be around me, but you in this situation are the person who is not wearing shoes, as opposed to you don't want to be around me in case I'm not wearing shoes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't care whether you're wearing shoes or not, but I feel like I would feel unprofessional or something.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Because I put on shoes before you come over.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, not always, but most of the time.
dan friesen
Or when you have gotten over.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Did somebody, maybe, did maybe somebody tell you that you had sweaty feet or something when you were a kid?
dan friesen
I'm certain someone did.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, that's it.
That's fair.
That's fair.
dan friesen
No, I don't know what it is.
I think there's something about, you know, like it's, it occupies the same part of my brain as the people who are like, never go on stage in shorts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
That kind of thing.
Like, you don't want to do stand-up in shorts, and I don't want to do a podcast without my shoes.
jordan holmes
Believe me, I won't argue.
I would prefer we both wore shoes.
So I'm right there with you.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
And I don't truck with people who wear shorts on stage.
dan friesen
So we also got a technocrat in the mix.
unidentified
Yay.
dan friesen
So thank you so much to my cats are so fat that I call them my policy chunks.
Thank you so much.
You're an Iowa technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother telling you, brilliant.
pastor james david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Sharp.
Bomb, Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
I've had slippers at some points in my life, and I think that those are comfy and fun, but I haven't been able to find a pair that I like.
I found some bad ones that I just don't wear, but I would like that.
unidentified
I got some slips.
jordan holmes
Listen, you listen.
I got some nice slips, right?
You speak it into the world.
The people who buy me nice slips might just wind up thinking, oh, I'm going to get Danny.
dan friesen
You and your wife.
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because those sweatpants are nice.
jordan holmes
I know.
I know they are.
dan friesen
She wants to buy these pictures.
jordan holmes
You keep saying that you like things.
She's going to keep doing it.
She is.
dan friesen
I'm going to be so cozy.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's how I live.
dan friesen
So today, Jordan, like I said, going over March 3rd.
unidentified
Sure.
Complexity of Council 12 00:15:11
dan friesen
Trump has attacked Iran.
There's been a couple days of a lot of things going on.
A lot of bombs here, a lot of bombs there.
And so Alex shows up to the show, and he's a little bit late.
alex jones
It is Tuesday, March 3rd, 2026.
This is an emergency broadcast.
We are in a planetary emergency.
I was a minute late sliding into my chair because so much new stuff was coming out right as I was going on.
The developments are so dangerous, so momentous, it is hard for me to even know where to begin.
dan friesen
So Alex goes on to say, like, there's layers of complexity to this, and that's just not true.
I'll grant that there are a ton of headlines coming out and news items about various attacks happening in a bunch of countries, but I think that none of that should matter for Alex.
In InfoWars terms, this situation is so fucking simple.
We're in a planetary crisis because of the war that's been launched with Iran.
This is how Alex decided to put it and how he opened the show.
So let's imagine for a second that's what he actually means.
If we're in a planetary crisis because of the war with Iran, then we should ask why that war is happening.
Trump and Israel carried out a large-scale attack, which killed the Ayatollah, which seemingly had very little plan of what to do next other than keep bombing stuff.
jordan holmes
Surprise.
dan friesen
So for Alex, the story should be very clear.
Trump has put us into a planetary crisis.
Before he attacked Iran, there was a relative calm, or at very least, we weren't in a planetary crisis.
So Trump's actions led us to this point.
To accept this conclusion, Alex would need to recognize that his fervent support for Trump, his blind support for every tyrannical thing his administration has done, the way he sold the audience empty promises just meant to expand Trump's ability to act as a dictator, all of that are all essential pieces of how we were brought to a planetary crisis.
Alex cried on air about how he would die for Trump, and that has led to a planetary crisis.
So maybe Alex has terrible instincts, or even worse, wants a planetary crisis.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is why there are tons of layers of complexity, and Alex can't just look at this story as it is.
If he did, he'd have to call himself a fucking idiot for getting played by the world's most obvious con man because he liked how that con man didn't seem to mind people using slurs.
The reason there needs to be complexity now is that Alex can't deny that there's a planetary crisis.
The audience would never accept that.
So he needs to work around that reality.
Thankfully, the government is helping provide some talking points with folks like Marco Rubio coming out and saying that it was a matter of hitting Iran before they hit us.
By adding this piece to the puzzle, you can say that we were in a planetary crisis before Trump launched the attack, and it was just a matter of gaining the first move advantage in a war that was inevitable.
Trump didn't cause the planetary crisis.
He just accurately assessed that one was already happening and gave America the best chance of coming out on top.
This is an angle that Alex can try and use, but it's also paper thin.
And anyone who lived through the Iraq war era would remember Alex basing his career on rejecting these kinds of rationalizations for preemptive attacks that start sprawling wars.
There's a lot of complexity for Alex, not because the question is actually complicated, but because it's hard to tell which of these angles is going to be viable.
If he had any spine at all, he would have left Trump already and started calling for his impeachment long ago.
So it's important to understand that his primary question is, what story works best for me?
Can he use this as a breaking point with Trump without torpedoing his own credibility in the process?
Or can he come up with some narrative about how Trump was right to launch the war without losing all of the anti-war people within the audience that he's built?
It's a very difficult spot for Alex to be in, but thankfully his audience is kind of dumb and probably won't notice that he's going to do both and neither simultaneously.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So a lot of complexity.
jordan holmes
It is very complex.
It's a complex situation.
I mean, I suppose it is complex for a very small group of people who get to make all the decisions, but because they suck so hard, it feels very simple for everybody else on the planet.
And they're just being like, oh, these guys got to get out of here, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, and for someone, especially who has the brand that Alex has.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The idea of Mark, the idea of somebody being like, oh, well, we had to hit him before Iran launched a strike on a thousand mile away country that does not come anywhere near them.
What are you talking about?
They're going to what?
Hit fucking goddamn Columbus, Ohio?
That's what Iran's going for?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's just what they told us before Iraq.
jordan holmes
Insane.
Insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just very tough to imagine anybody who has any interest in Infowars as a thing not seeing that as like, this is bullshit.
jordan holmes
This is bullshit.
dan friesen
This is how we got talked.
Alex, you've done long shows on this being how we get talked into war and Bush justifies going to Iraq.
Like, we're doing this again.
jordan holmes
The number of small towns, my small town growing up, the number of people being like, you got to be ready.
They might be coming for us.
It should never happen again.
Of all the things that we should never forget, we should never forget some asshole in fucking some tiny town somewhere being like, oh man, they're coming for me.
No, they're not.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, it just, it shows like how we don't learn from hysteria.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So, Alex, he's going to, he wants to be very specific.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's going to say some things on the show.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But when he means it, he'll tell you.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
There are so many layers to this.
And I think it's very important, especially for new listeners and viewers to understand that I will watermark this broadcast verbally, every five minutes or so, explaining that my view is this, and I was against this war.
But then I will walk through the Iranians' perspective, the Chinese perspection, the Arab perspective.
Israel, that's what I do.
And what a lot of corporate media and others do is they pick little pieces out of the show and claim this is what Jones thinks when I'm giving an Israeli perspective or an Iranian perspective or a Chinese perspective.
And that's part of the clickbait mental illness that's even more dangerous than AI deepfakes.
It's really one of the tactics that's flooding the internet with so much confusion.
And it's not just done to me.
It's done all over the place.
dan friesen
From this point, Alex does not continue to watermark the show in any way at all.
He is totally right about this clickbait mental illness thing, though.
The only issue is that he's part of a media ecosystem that literally only exists because they exploit that.
All of his documentaries are largely based on taking quotes and video out of context in order to make people think they're saying something that they're not.
So he can get off his goddamn high horse here.
This is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
It would be helpful.
dan friesen
As someone who observes this kind of media, I do also think that Alex is right about some of the coverage that he gets from various outlets.
It's a very common thing for some meme to be going around of Alex saying something, and it's just being presented to make him look bad and it's entirely out of context.
That does happen.
There's an interesting dynamic with Alex himself, though, which is that I've seen plenty of times when someone's done him dirty with an out-of-context clip, but I've never really seen an instance of that where Alex hasn't said the same thing or worse in context at some other time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
There are very few clips where I'm like, hey, that's not fair to Alex, where I'm like, but he also did say that another time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's like, that's like, okay, that's hitting the four-dimensional bullseye wrong, you know?
Like, all right, you hit the dartboard.
It wasn't on the right day, but you hit the board.
All right.
You don't get zero points.
dan friesen
Yeah, the only people who like maliciously and sincerely take him out of context are like us when we're doing an out-of-context drop.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, he didn't yell, I denounce Jesus Christ.
Like, that was wildly out of context.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's unfair.
For fun.
jordan holmes
That's what we're doing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But, like, people who have those memes and stuff, like, yeah, it's a you're right and wrong.
I mean, right and wrong.
jordan holmes
It's, it's, listen, just because other people also suck doesn't mean that gets you off the hook for sucking more.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
So Alex is going to not justify Trump's attack on Iran.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But also kind of justify it.
But really not.
Well, we're in trouble.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
So I'm going to give you the bottom line of why Trump's doing this and why he thinks it's the right thing to do.
And that is not an endorsement of it.
Just said it again.
And then I'm going to get into the Iranians and their plan to fight to the absolute death.
And the Strait of Hormus being closed, China in total panic mode, the markets panicking.
They tried to meet their Supreme Council again to elect from the Council of 12 a ring wraith to be the new Sauron.
jordan holmes
Is Bill Gates still on the Council of 12?
alex jones
And why we're told by the Pentagon, oh, we're just taking out their weapons, then Trump's like, no, it's regime change, and so much more.
But as I predicted, this had a very good chance of going sideways.
It has.
And now it's about to go over a cliff.
We're in deep shit.
dan friesen
So Alex can do this.
I'm not endorsing Trump's actions as many times as he wants.
He can play that game all day.
And every time he does, it should be a reminder that he is endorsing these actions.
We've seen the way he acts when he doesn't endorse something like a war.
And we've seen the way he acts when he's trying to make rationalizations for why the audience should kind of just shut up and accept it.
And it's very clear that this is the latter.
Also, it's not very important, but Alex doesn't really know anything about how the Iranian government operates.
The Ayatollah successor is not selected by a council of 12.
That's something that's done by the Assembly of Experts, which is an 88-member body made up of clerics.
For someone to become a member of that group, they have to be approved by the Guardian Council, which does have 12 members.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But I also, I don't think that Alex is referring to that.
jordan holmes
I would strongly suggest he is not.
dan friesen
The headline that Alex skimmed and is now incorrectly reporting on is that Israel bombed the building that houses the Assembly of Experts, which likely was an attempt to stop them from being able to name a successor.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
All the articles I can find about the attack make it clear the building was destroyed, but there were no casualties reported.
And Alex is saying that they've just killed the Council of 12.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, if I'm somebody in Iran who is maybe part of that very important, any one of the important bodies, period.
And they were like, hey, yeah, Trump blew up Khomeini.
I'd be like, cool.
I'm going to be underground for a while.
I'm going to be under the ground for a while.
I don't know if you'll see me again.
dan friesen
Oh, what's this in the news?
Trump says we're going to keep doing this.
jordan holmes
Surprise, motherfuckers, breakaway society.
I've taken it over.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
Man, oh, man.
Yeah.
There's just like Alex does not have a great handle on this, and I think he's approaching it from a very insincere angle.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, oh, well.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, the world is at war.
Everything is terrible.
We're in deep shit.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
But also, Hillary.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
Do you remember that?
jordan holmes
It's about time that we got back to her.
dan friesen
Remember, she exists?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do.
alex jones
Well, we got this Iran war expanding and spiraling and metastasizing.
We'll be getting to that in great detail today.
What it's doing in the markets, they just took out a whole bunch of the Mulas Council trying to elect a new Sauron.
But I wanted to get Representative Eric Burleson to pop in because I know he was in both the hearings and the depositions of Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton.
And it's obviously one thing a few days later to see video of it, but to be there in person to see the behind-the-scenes stuff and to see Hillary acting like she knows nothing about Ghislaine Maxwell or anybody after 2008, even though she was at her daughter's wedding and so much more after that.
We know they were heavily involved in their foundation and then the founding of it.
And I think Hillary's really committed perjury here.
It wouldn't be the first time.
dan friesen
Oh, I just, I don't, I don't feel, I don't feel like this is a great use of time.
jordan holmes
No.
Nope.
What are we doing?
dan friesen
We're in deep shit.
Trump is launching World War III.
jordan holmes
Hillary committed perjury.
dan friesen
But hey, if it's the first time, this is quite a development.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
But this is just yet another time she is.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
Just putting it on the tally for a number of times that Hillary's.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Yes.
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Forgive me.
I forgot.
We still just kidnapped another leader from a different country.
I was still on that one, but in the meantime, I apologize.
Hillary has committed perjury somewhere.
dan friesen
Don't get me wrong.
I'm not saying, hey, let's ignore Hillary.
I'm not saying that everybody should just say, hey, your deposition is 100% truthful and we have no concerns about you.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying that Alex's show started with, we're in a planetary crisis.
If that's the case, Hillary's deposition is kind of not important.
jordan holmes
If we're in a zombie outbreak, right, and I'm at a hospital and I'm charged with doing triage and somebody comes in and they're like, ah, I got a nail in my hand.
I'm like, that is really terrible.
But you're going to have to wait.
You're going to have to wait for a while because there's a lot of zombies around and they need to be handled first.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has this guy, Eric Berlinson.
Berlinson.
He's a Missouri congressman.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
And state congressman or formerly state, now federal.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
He's a guy who I don't really have a lot of knowledge about, and I was surprised to see another sitting member of Congress on Alex's show.
And he did not disappoint.
He sucks a lot.
alex jones
What are the next steps in this?
Because we got a nice confidence act from Hillary and Bill.
You know, her laughing at, oh, there's no connections to us in Pizzagate.
They divert off this pizza place that the media did.
They created a story about the pizza place, not the WikiLeaks where they say to John Podesta, and it's a woman that ran a service where you could rent kids just for fun.
Blurred Lines Between Politics and Propaganda 00:15:10
alex jones
I mean, it literally says that on her side, it doesn't say for what.
And she said, we're delivering seven, her name, nine seven-year-old children to the wooded facility, a retreat log cabin.
There's a hot tub by the pool.
They'll be there at this time in the pool in the hot tub for your entertainment.
But remember, they're well-trained, but they are children.
I mean, and there's hundreds of those.
These are real.
And she just acted like she doesn't know.
And I noticed that whoever was asked the question at that time started to go there.
And I could see Hillary, even though she puts on that, you know, act that she's confident, getting really scared right there because that's smoking gun stuff.
What are seven-year-olds being delivered by Uber to the woods to John Podesta for his entertainment?
eric burlison
Yeah, I mean, Podesta was another individual that did come up.
dan friesen
So you might notice that that version of the story Alex is telling is stretching the narrative and adding more salacious details to Podesta's email.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
And if you understand what he's doing here, it makes total sense.
This is a power test that Alex is giving his guest.
They haven't spoken before, and this guy's in Congress.
So Alex doesn't fully know if he can big dog him.
But this is a good way to find out.
Alex is making up all kinds of details about a person who rents kids, and the test is to see if the representative will play along.
If he nods along with Alex telling this story, then Alex can be pretty confident that this guy has no interest in reporting accurate stories and is willing to yes-and whatever nonsense Alex throws out.
Alex is testing the waters to see if he can lie freely with this guy.
If you don't push back on that story, then you're either insane or you're clearly indicating that you'll take on a submissive role in this role play of InfoWars pretending to be a news show.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And that's important to do with someone, especially who is an elected official, because they might have more dignity.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that means you can't fuck with them.
jordan holmes
I mean, theoretically, we have the possibility of human beings in power who would be like, regardless of my political affiliation, it is unbecoming of you to speak of such people in such a manner, right?
That's possible.
Or at the very least, he could be like, try not being insane.
You know, but this one, him just being like, hey, Podesta's crazy, right?
You got one.
dan friesen
Or like, hey, what you're doing is making a cartoon out of a serious issue.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I don't want to be a part of it.
Thank you.
Click.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Nope.
He was like, Podesta, I'm with you.
Let's roll.
dan friesen
Yeah, he passed the test.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
The Infowars test.
jordan holmes
Wow, which is failing the living test.
dan friesen
That's true.
And he fails even harder.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
unidentified
Yeah.
eric burlison
I mean, Podesta was another individual that did come up.
But he, look, there's so many people that are connected to the Clintons.
And frankly, Hillary had amnesia on almost every connection and every interaction.
So she distanced herself from quite a lot of it.
In fact, she seemed to be living her life in such a way that everything revolves around her and she doesn't really pay much attention to what's happening in the lives of the people around her.
In fact, I asked the question, you know, I mean, one would think that she cares about her daughter.
jordan holmes
One would think.
eric burlison
Her daughter was traveling with Ghelaine Maxwell and traveling with Jeffrey Epstein.
They were at the wedding at Morocco, the famous wedding where Bill was in likely that's the location where he's in the hot tub.
And she was only 21 years old at that time.
Well, that would put her in an age that would make her potentially a victim.
And so I'd ask Hillary, did you ever consider that Chelsea might have been a victim?
And did you ask her questions?
Now that you know, well, she refused to really answer that question.
She really fell back on that she, you know, all of this happened at a time when she was not involved, did not have a relationship, and she had no idea what was going on.
dan friesen
This is disgusting.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This guy who's a member of Congress is creating a fantasy about Chelsea Clinton being abused by Epstein and Maxwell and then asking Hillary about it in a deposition.
Then he's going on a dipshits radio show to complain about how Hillary didn't seem concerned about that possibility that he invented enough.
These people are fucking clowns and this kind of shit makes a mockery of what's actually, you know, it means to care about a subject like this.
Do you think your daughter was abused by Epstein?
Isn't like a random question that it's appropriate for a congressperson to ask someone unless that person is specifically there to talk about that possibility.
If that is the premise of the deposition, then it makes sense.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This is wildly inappropriate.
There's no reason that this guy would ask Hillary that question except to try to piss her off or to get a disappointing reaction from her that he can try and weaponize on media and social media later.
And there's no reason to think that someone who believes themselves to be capable of holding public office wouldn't understand that.
And it's fucking gross.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Beyond the horrifying ghoulishness to remove all of that out of the way, which is so much.
Even then, it's like, okay, so you've painted her as the most powerful person in the world who can fucking destroy everything, while at the same time, her daughter is at risk at all times.
What the fuck are you talking about?
dan friesen
That's how much she's.
jordan holmes
Your point is that she is so powerful that if somebody fucked with her daughter, she would murder them.
Not like, hey, it's insane.
dan friesen
Because you're a human.
jordan holmes
It's insane.
dan friesen
You care about your family, not like these demons.
jordan holmes
It's fucked up.
dan friesen
No, it is.
It is disgusting.
And like, let's just imagine a scenario where his fantasy is right and Chelsea was a victim.
jordan holmes
He doesn't care.
dan friesen
And what does asking this question help further in terms of helping?
jordan holmes
It helps make him think she's a bad mother.
dan friesen
Right.
Great.
You PR fuck.
jordan holmes
I respect that the game has to be played no matter the circumstances.
I get that we live in a world where the game exists no matter what context is going on.
But seriously, the idea of even giving a shit about the specifics of any name that was your name was in there?
Fuck off.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
I don't need a single detail.
I don't need one.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fuck off.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that if there are people who are, you know, entrusted with the public trust to be our representatives, you can't act like this.
jordan holmes
You just can't act like it.
You can't do it.
Like, not even like a, hey, you get one.
No, you acted like this.
Now you're not in charge of stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah, like, because when you're saying, like, hey, did you think about whether or not Epstein abused your child?
Like, to Hillary Clinton, are you trolling?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is that supposed to be like an epic troll moment?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because if so, you're a monster.
jordan holmes
You know, we make legislation here.
This isn't where we go around being like, ha ha ha ha, you suck.
This is supposed to be like, hey, if this happens, then somebody gets taxed more.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You should probably take it seriously.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
Anyway, Trump on the Epstein stuff is totally cool.
jordan holmes
I bet he is.
dan friesen
He's just doing a cover-up.
alex jones
And then we get all the Epstein files, and I've literally seen 500 of them where it says things like delivering the sex slave to the Hyatt, had to beat up the sex slave later, didn't carry out the mission right, did carry out the mission right.
We got one piece of pizza that's glowing and really you're going to enjoy it.
It's really loving.
But at 70, you're going to have to share it and slicely, you know, thinly slice it on where we women.
Well, you bought my baby.
Do you want to buy more?
And real Epstein emails.
And we got Kash Patel saying there's nothing to investigate.
I think that's one thing that's really pissed off constituents.
I already studied Trump, already knew all about him, already knew the socialites.
I knew Trump had nothing to do with underage girls, very little to do with Epstein except being fellow socialites in New York and Florida.
And so just overall, there have been some Republicans that have been really pushing and doing a great job, I think.
And I think the administration has unduly demonized them for wanting to get to the bottom of this where they're just being moral and doing what their constituents want.
dan friesen
Unduly demonized them?
The fuck are you doing?
Like, come on, man.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
What is this?
dan friesen
Trump is just like trying to protect his occasional socialite buddy who he wasn't that involved with.
And that's why he's demonizing his allies in Congress and making them quit.
jordan holmes
You know, it's like when it's such relativity, you know, whenever people have adjusted their baseline to where it's like, oh, that's not even, don't even worry about that.
He's just demonizing people who are looking into something.
He's just trying to make sure that people who are investigating something are hated by all, you know, and so he's using his power to make people hate him.
unidentified
Hold on.
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not because he's involved.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
He's just protecting his elite class interests.
jordan holmes
Which makes it better that it's not even personal.
It is just purely class-based.
And that makes you sure you will never break free, you poor pieces of shit.
dan friesen
But the point is that he's cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is true.
unidentified
He is cool.
dan friesen
Alex looked into it.
jordan holmes
He is cool.
dan friesen
Don't worry about it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Fucking awful.
jordan holmes
My God.
dan friesen
Yeah, we're past the point where any of this is really defensible in any way.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But this guy, this Eric fella, he's got an interesting take about what Congress's responsibility is.
jordan holmes
Let's hear it.
eric burlison
I think that we have way too much confidence in the FBI and the Department of Justice and their ability to pull this off and to do a thorough investigation.
I mean, the longer that the physics, the more that I'm convinced that government is not the answer to our problems.
I really think that getting these documents released, I hope that your listening audience and people that can dedicate time to this are going to do the job that the government has no desire to do, really.
dan friesen
This is such a bleak image.
Like, I get people not believing in the government's ability to get things done, but it's wild to hear this kind of thing coming from someone who's an elected politician and is literally one of the government bureaucrats that he's complaining about.
This guy, Eric Burleson, has only been in Congress on the federal level since 2023, but he's been in the Missouri Congress since 2009.
He's new to the federal level of political bureaucracy, but he's a longtime government person.
He's not like freshly realizing that, oh my God, things are slow.
His position seems downright cynical, where he's like, well, the government can't hold child traffickers accountable, so hopefully we can release a bunch of documents and then vigilantes can do the rest.
That's what someone in Congress is saying, which should help make clear how blurred the line is between government official and online shit talker.
Because here's the deal.
When Eric was trying to get elected, you can bet he didn't try to appeal to voters this way.
He didn't try to get into Congress based on a we can't do anything platform.
In fact, his election website says, quote, I have experience identifying holes in our system and working quickly to fix them.
As President Trump fought election integrity at the national level, I battled it on the state level by spearheading legislation to clean up rampant initiative petitions and referendums.
He literally says, quote, I'm proud of my record, but now I'm taking the fight for freedom to D.C. I'm going to Washington to clean house.
I say this as a podcaster and as a fellow Missourian.
Go do a podcast, you dumb fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you think the government can work, good, try.
If you think that the government can't work, don't take a fucking seat in the government.
Step aside and let someone who believes the thing can work try.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's, it is, it is amazing to not feel that is an indictment to oneself to say, you know, that thing that I do, useless.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
That's a real feeling to have when you have a job because sometimes it feels like you're a cog in a machine.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And maybe you don't understand all the time why it is that you're doing the thing you're doing.
Am I making a difference?
unidentified
Sure.
Blah, blah, blah.
dan friesen
If you're in an elected position, you had to appeal to a public that they should put their trust in you to be their representative in a system.
And no one, not nobody, not even Ron fucking Paul is going to get elected on a we can't do anything platform.
Like he had to have lied to his constituents to have these doubts about.
jordan holmes
I mean, on the other hand, he has been elected many times in Missouri before.
So it wouldn't surprise me if everybody already knew that he was a gigantic piece of shit and that they want him to be there to say stuff like, I can't help you.
dan friesen
I think he, I don't remember exactly where his district is, but you know, a lot of those are pretty safe.
A lot of Missouri districts are pretty safe for them.
jordan holmes
I bet they're real safe.
I bet you don't even need to worry about what words you say to them.
You just need to make sure that you use the slur from time to time outside.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
Look, Missouri gets a bad.
Whatever.
unidentified
Listen.
dan friesen
I think you wouldn't make it through the primary if you were like, we can't do anything.
The government sucks.
We're just going to leak stuff to conspiracy theorists so they can make shit up.
jordan holmes
I mean, you would hope that wouldn't get you in, but hey, we live in strange times.
dan friesen
No, I think that this dude's a fuckhead.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, the Justice Department, they've released all these Epstein emails and all these files.
But they also made them hard to search.
And that was on purpose.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
But the Justice Department made it we can only search 10 items at a time, both in the public database and the one that Congress can see, and broke the links and the photos, videos, though we found a way to find them.
So it's the searchability function.
When I've talked to IT people, it's done on purpose to limit it to 10.
It makes it easier for the database actually to search at all, just like Google does.
So they're deliberately making it hard to search, which again, who runs around the FBI's security parameters and all their computers?
Is Lane Maxwell's sister?
Did you know that?
eric burlison
I had no idea.
I did not know that.
alex jones
I did not know that.
eric burlison
I truly, like the Clintons, I truly did not know that.
Isabel Maxwell's Security Myth 00:02:10
jordan holmes
Naive.
Get a dig in.
alex jones
It's in this 3 million.
And guess where her sister works?
She runs the World Economic Forum's complete computer systems and security.
jordan holmes
Smoking gun.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
The claim that Alex is making there is that Ghelane Maxwell's sister ran, quote, the security parameters and all the FBI's computers, which is another power test for this guest.
If he believes Alex, then Alex can say anything.
He probably isn't going to push back because realistically, what is Alex even saying?
The first question that you need to ask is, which sister is Alex talking about?
Robert Maxwell had nine children, and Ghelane wasn't the only daughter.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It's most likely that Alex is talking about her two sisters, Isabel and Christine, who founded an early search engine called Magellan in 1993, which was then bought by Excite in 1996.
This is an interesting piece of information, but does that justify and back up Alex's claim at all?
No.
jordan holmes
Wait, hold on.
I'm.
They are unrelated bits of information.
dan friesen
But can kind of feel related because they have to do with search functions.
jordan holmes
I suppose if you really, really, really are only Alex Jones.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there were a bunch of memes going around dipshit social media last week that claimed that Isabel Maxwell ran Amber Alerts or the program that sends out warnings about missing children.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This was not true, and it was likely based on a confusion of a company called Comtech, which is involved with Amber Alerts, and one called ComTouch, which is not, but is connected to Isabel and is a British cybersecurity company.
jordan holmes
I hate this shit.
How often does this shit happen?
dan friesen
Quite regularly.
jordan holmes
Hate it.
I hate that shit.
dan friesen
Anyway, this congressman has just flipped over to Alex and shown his little belly, clearly messaging to him that his mind is ready to be blown by whatever not true but exciting thing Alex wants to tell him.
Did you know that Ghillain Maxwell's sister ran all the security parameters of the FBI?
jordan holmes
Wow, I didn't know that because that's an insane thing to say.
Manipulating The Table 00:06:12
jordan holmes
Period.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Not even, not even, but get rid of the Maxwell part of it and just get to why would anybody have just one person in charge of those things?
Also, why would you put a single person in charge of those things?
dan friesen
What do you mean by security parameters?
jordan holmes
What does that even mean?
That's what?
That's how unsecure things are supposed to.
unidentified
What?
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think this guy is a real winner in Congress.
jordan holmes
I'm glad that we've got the people we've got.
I think that they're all, what I really think is that they're all winners.
You know, doesn't matter what party you're in.
They're just winners.
dan friesen
Yeah, they get it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex, he's talking a bit about the situation in Iran.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I believe Eric is gone by now.
I'm not sure.
He's a dud.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
But I think that Alex doesn't really have as much of a problem with this as you'd want him to.
alex jones
Yeah, there's now talk of, we know there's special ops there, but actual ground invasion is on the table.
I mean, I know Trump wants to leave it on the table so they don't underestimate us, but obviously Congress will need to vote on this if we're going to have a ground invasion.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Oh, he's still here.
alex jones
Well, I'll say this.
jordan holmes
I'm sure you will.
alex jones
He is pro-America.
We can say some of it might not be right, y'all have our opinions.
But this is definitely in his perspective America first.
So is Venezuela.
It's destroying the old globalist order.
We're acting unilaterally, which we should as a nation in our interest.
And so I had grave concerns as the founder of Blackwater did, and even the chairman of the Joint Chief said there's a lot of downsides to roll the dice.
I think the president did this from a place of thinking it's the right thing to do.
But I agree now that this has happened, I hope the regime falls quickly, or we realize they're not going to fall and pull back quickly.
Or Congress votes and we go to the American people.
He should go to the American people.
Maybe he should do a poll and see what they want.
But it's definitely a historic moment.
And indefinitely, he has destroyed the old globalist order.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe you should do a Twitter poll about whether or not Iran should get bummed.
jordan holmes
The idea that you could be alive right now and go, wow, surely Congress will have to vote on that is absurd.
dan friesen
While you're talking to someone who's in Congress.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Alex is saying that everything Trump does is for America.
And maybe you don't agree with that.
jordan holmes
So why do we need Congress?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Congress, if they're not doing what Trump does, then they're being un-American.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
It's easy to see the connection there.
dan friesen
They might disagree with what Trump's doing, but that's just because they're misinterpreting what he's doing and they don't understand how it helps America.
jordan holmes
I would say that at this point, if it's me, I am purely just going to see what the fuck you idiots will take.
That's what I'll do.
If I'm Trump, I'm just going like, yeah, what next?
Nobody's going to stop me when I do anything.
unidentified
Try.
jordan holmes
I dare you.
I'm going to pee on the table of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Stop me.
I dare you.
dan friesen
See, I think that his behavior and what you're describing wouldn't look that different because there's a chance that he actually just doesn't want to pee on that table.
And that's why we're not seeing that.
jordan holmes
And that's why we're not getting it peeed on.
unidentified
That's it.
jordan holmes
Because he doesn't pee he's not.
dan friesen
He's breaking a lot of laws.
jordan holmes
He likes to pee in his own place.
If he likes to pee on your table, he would pee on your table.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe we should start a campaign of like Trump is too afraid to pee on something.
jordan holmes
I believe it.
dan friesen
Like bait him.
jordan holmes
He doesn't have the fucking backbone to pee on shit, let alone the urinary tract necessary.
dan friesen
George Washington would pee on that desk.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
That red-haired giant would pee all over everyone.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Tucker has come out and said, hey, it's Israel's fault.
jordan holmes
Well, I presumably though.
But I mean, it is.
It is.
dan friesen
In a manner.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's also our fault.
jordan holmes
We're all teaming up to make bad decisions.
dan friesen
But he's trying to put the blame pretty squarely.
jordan holmes
I would imagine.
dan friesen
Yahoo and Israel.
And Alex has decided, I'm going to go ahead and take that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm going to go with that.
alex jones
That's the easy W. Right now, I want to just say that I 100% agree with Tucker Carlson that Benjamin Netanyahu, who's been in power 25 plus years, he's out of control.
He's super unpopular.
And he is manipulating us into all of this.
And it's as I said over the weekend.
I said Saturday.
Notice Israel struck first during the day.
The U.S. never attacks during the day in these things in a major operation.
And clearly, they precipitated and jumped the gun to force us into it.
In fact, have the archivists find that, please, from Saturday.
And I said it's Sunday at two.
dan friesen
So this is a great dodge for Alex and Tucker, but it's not really real.
The idea for the folks like Alex and Tucker, who they can see the writing on the wall and they know that they've overcommitted to Trump is that they need a scapegoat.
And that's going to be Israel.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
There's no problem with people having very serious criticisms and opposition to the Israeli government.
And because that position is also held by a large portion of the left, these Nazis are going to try and hide behind it.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
You're going to see a lot of that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Attacking Iran and starting this war is definitely something that Trump did.
But Israel and Netanyahu forced him to.
That's the angle that Alex thinks is going to fly and the position that he's doubling down on with Tucker.
Unfortunately, Trump held a press conference and literally said, quote, based on the way the negotiation was going, I thought they were going to attack first.
If anything, I might have forced Israel's hand.
So I guess we're now in a position where Trump is a liar or I mean, it's nice of him to handle this stuff for us.
Is he lying about that?
jordan holmes
You know, for my entire life, every president has been lying nonstop all the time.
It is refreshing to hear a psycho tell the truth.
I will say that.
dan friesen
But whether or not you believe him to be lying, can Alex accept that, okay, I have to choose between Israel forced him to do this.
Or Trump wanted to do this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
If I take the Israel forced him argument, then he just lied to everyone about why we did this.
There's no win.
Manipulated Awareness 00:05:04
jordan holmes
You know, here's what's interesting to me.
I feel like being manipulated is not a thing that people are understanding very well.
Because if you know you're being manipulated, you are not being manipulated.
Awareness is required, or lack of awareness is required to be manipulated.
If you are aware of it, you're just agreeing to do stuff.
That's just a regular conversation.
It is only if you have no idea what's going on.
So if he was talking to them and they were like, hey, you should bomb them.
And he's like, yeah, that's not being manipulated.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Nope.
That's just a regular talk.
dan friesen
Manipulation, a lot of the behaviors that are involved in it are very similar to negotiation and cooperation.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a choice and an amount of information you have.
Those are the differences.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, hey, man, did you ever watch Mr. Show?
unidentified
I did.
jordan holmes
I liked it a lot.
dan friesen
Do you remember the sketch where Jack Black played a farmer, a simple farmer?
jordan holmes
No, I don't remember that one.
dan friesen
It was based on a southern gentleman who's in Congress who had a little joke that he told.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's a kindly farmer who takes in a leather pants salesman.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He says, hey, you can sleep in my barn.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
But there's three holes in the wall.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
Don't stick your dick in those holes.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Do you know why?
Do you remember why?
jordan holmes
I don't.
dan friesen
Because in the first hole, there's the farmer's daughter.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Second hole, his wife.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Third hole, there's a milking machine that doesn't turn off until a certain amount of gallons are withdrawn.
Anyway, I bring this up because this clip ends with Alex saying that Trump put our dick in a hole.
unidentified
Hey!
alex jones
Clearly, like Eric Prince warned and the choice staff had Kane said, this is murky water.
And I remember growing up, my dad would tell me, hey, your friends someday will take you out in the woods and a river or a creek or the beach, and there'll be people jumping off cliffs in the water and stuff.
And if you can't see the bottom and you haven't gone and checked, don't jump off because your foot broke his back and my brother broke his leg.
And you're hearing this when you're five years old.
Okay, dad, okay.
Then all of a sudden you're 14 years old with older kids and the kid jumps off and compound fractures jumps into murky water.
I mean, you don't jump into water.
You don't know what's in it.
I mean, it's not.
jordan holmes
And that's why I want Trump for president.
alex jones
Well, we've had so much success.
We won all these wars.
Let's just do it again.
It's like walking around in the desert or West Texas and you got a hole there, a hole there.
One hole might have a pygmy owl in it.
One might have a toad in it.
One might have a Gila monster in it.
One might have a rattlesnake in it.
You just don't go sticking your arm down holes.
And we stuck our.
Basically, Trump stuck our dick in a hole.
So this is.
jordan holmes
We're fucking a rattlesnake.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And something's biting on the end of it.
And it don't feel good.
Something's biting my dick.
jordan holmes
What an amazing.
Like, okay.
dan friesen
This is a family show, but it's fun.
jordan holmes
It's a fun, delightful metaphor.
I enjoy it.
I enjoy it a great deal.
What a crazy thing to say about a positive-viewed person.
dan friesen
I think the view is evolving in front of our eyes.
I think we're getting towards him trying to be allowed to say bad things about Trump.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But he's still positive about him.
jordan holmes
I will say this.
I would go a long way.
It would take a long way before I was like, you know what?
It was the rattlesnake biting my dick that got made up.
I was fine with so much else on this terrible journey into the American Southwest.
But man, this rattlesnake on my dick is really the breaking point.
dan friesen
Trump put my dick in a hole.
jordan holmes
My dick in a hole.
There's a rattlesnake.
Now I have no dick.
dan friesen
Here's also the problem that I have with this metaphor.
Yeah.
The arm still works.
jordan holmes
The arm does still work.
dan friesen
We could still be putting our arm in a hole.
It does not need to go to dick.
jordan holmes
I mean, for Trump, it does.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Trump's going to fuck that rattlesnake.
dan friesen
I get it, but Alex is saying that Trump put our dick in a hole.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He could just still put our arm in a hole.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's very possible.
dan friesen
It doesn't need to be the dick.
jordan holmes
There are any number of.
In fact, what makes it such an apt comparison is that there are any number of choices that Trump could have made, even within the metaphor, that would be bad, but would still be better than putting one's dick in a hole.
dan friesen
Anyway, don't put your dick in these holes.
jordan holmes
Don't put your dick in a hole.
dan friesen
You can sleep in the barn.
jordan holmes
Don't put your dick in these holes.
dan friesen
Classic Jack Black.
jordan holmes
Classic.
Political jouissance.
dan friesen
I think that these are good pieces of advice, though.
Like, don't jump into murky water.
unidentified
That is good.
dan friesen
No, I'm not going to fuck a hole in the ground.
jordan holmes
These are good pieces of advice.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would take these.
Selling Silver and Gold 00:03:44
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest on who's not in Congress, sure, but he is his gold sponsor.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
Just briefly, he's got to go soon.
Dr. Krishna is also our huge sponsor.
And by the way, I forgot to bring this up with you.
I wanted to get you on about Tucker Carlson, who I agree with, exposing these gold companies, ripping people off.
We've said exactly the same thing, and we've explained, though, I watched his documentary, it's great, but it makes it so technical.
It's very simple.
If someone's selling you gold at wholesale price, you can check the price and know you're getting the best deal.
That's what Elliot does.
It's so simple to just explain this.
Anybody can verify it instead of going through a huge breakdown of it.
But hopefully, in the next few days, you'll come on and do the deep dive on that molar part of his documentary and get your take on it because you've been harping on this.
But that's a separate issue being our sponsor.
You're also an economist and a really smart guy.
As you warned, they would probably close the straight over moose.
It has been closed by the insurance companies just by attacks on ships, some of which have been damaged and sunk.
So, what's happening in the markets, obviously, the stock market's way down, gold and silver way down.
But as you predicted a month ago, when they drove silver down, it would just bounce back up.
I believe that this is going to bounce way back because of all the fundamentals.
So, Dr. Elliott, a lot to hit here.
You're with Kirk Elliott Precious Metals, the largest silver and gold broker in the U.S. because you have the highest ratings, the best prices, and best service.
KAPM.com forward slash gold, 720-605-3900.
And as you told folks two weeks ago, we believe this is a buying opportunity when they artificially drove down silver with naked shorting.
And of course, we were right.
So, this is a major buying opportunity.
dan friesen
You know, it's interesting how I can't remember Alex ever having Kirk Elliott on and saying that it was a sell-off opportunity.
They can pretend that he's a straight-up gold salesman who's just looking out for you as a customer, but it really does feel like every time he's on, it's a buying opportunity.
jordan holmes
Strange how that works.
dan friesen
Yeah, you can tell how stagnant the customer pool is becoming for folks like Alex and Kirk when a huge part of their marketing strategy has to be: we're not like those other scam gold businesses.
Yep, they aren't getting enough new gullible eyes on their shit, and too many people have been burned by their scams or know people who have been burned.
So, their advertising requires defensiveness, and that's a bad sign.
And to be clear, I'm agnostic on precious metals as a thing to invest in.
It seems like the sort of thing where almost everyone is scamming people, but there are probably some companies that aren't a scam.
I just don't know how you'd find them.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
As Alex likes to say, you can judge a tree by its fruits.
And as far as Alex's fruits are concerned with his past gold sponsors, we can say indisputably that he has no problem working for and promoting someone who's actively defrauding customers.
If he could base his career on working with Midas Resources, there's no reason to think that he would demand the people he work with now be above board.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, if he's advertising with them, that's a negative advertisement.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
I think it's even legal because it's not a Ponzi scheme.
It's not a Ponzi scheme.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
But it is legal for you to buy gold from them and for them not to buy it until maybe the price goes down a little bit and then they buy that gold and they pocket the difference.
Well, no, that's legal.
dan friesen
I think almost anything is legal with gold and silver and shit.
But yeah, there are rules about how much gold you have to hold in reserve.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can sell more than you have.
There's all kinds of crazy shit like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
To imagine that this guy is just like, hey, you know, I just want you to buy it for the right price.
And like, I'm going to break even.
Like, no, you're not.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is, it is like, you know, that if it's free, then you're the product kind of thing.
Massive War Games Probability 00:07:42
jordan holmes
It needs to be updated to, they're all predating on us.
They're trying to eat us all.
Every little bit of us bones, even.
They're killing us.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think as it relates to like Kirk and his gold pitch, like, I don't think he's hiding that very much.
He's just like, there's a war going on.
Profit.
unidentified
Right.
kirk elliott
And this, all of this geopolitical conflict is going to help us who invest wisely during this time.
And it's not like you're making a big wild pie-in-the-sky prediction.
It's just like the world is not having available what it needs, which is oil and silver.
And we get to take advantage of that.
alex jones
Incredible.
I need to call you now, get a free concentration.
Free email, get a call.
You guys need to call.
You guys need to take action.
dan friesen
You need to take advantage of all these people dying in this war that I'm supposed to be against.
jordan holmes
Isn't this their whole thing about why George Soros is evil?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
So, like, hey, do a Soros.
But, like, on a smaller scale.
Otherwise, you're a bad guy.
dan friesen
Yeah, middle-class Soros.
jordan holmes
Middle-class Soros.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
No, it is.
They're imploring people to take advantage of global chaos in order to make money.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And when you hear a pitch like that, it makes you start to hear the things that Alex is saying in a way that's like, oh, you make more money when there's trouble.
jordan holmes
That is probably exactly true.
dan friesen
So are you excited for there to be trouble?
jordan holmes
Probably exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
alex jones
I'm about to lay out the latest developments in really this new world war we're in.
And I said that over a year ago.
I was the first to say it, and now they've had the big war planners in Europe, in Russia, in China, in the U.S. basically say we're in a new world war.
And I want to explain what this new world war is.
In the CIA's own documents, their own war games, they called the Cold War World War III.
But it was a soft war, a Cold War.
jordan holmes
Is that why they called it that?
alex jones
It's World War IV.
It's already kinetic.
It's economic.
It's cyber.
It's cultural.
It's full spectrum dominance.
And it has not the potential in every major AI, corporate, random corporation, Pentagon, war game.
Not the potential to go nuclear, but the probability.
dan friesen
He sounds like he's doing a movie trailer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, is he having fun with this?
dan friesen
Yeah, because it'll sell gold.
Yeah.
Yes.
Like, you hear that tone.
The probability.
All this, like, the way he's delivering this is intentional.
It's meant to heighten these feelings that feed into his main sponsor.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
So you remember that time whenever America dropped a bomb and instantly vaporized like 50,000 people.
And then we're like, well, we got to do that again.
And then they instantly vaporized like another 50,000 people.
And then we spent the next 80 years making those instant vaporization weapons so much stronger.
And now that we have reached the probability of one of those used, you saying that means that you and I are going to watch millions of people instantly disappear.
dan friesen
And I'm not saying that Alex wants that, but he wants people to be really scared about it in order to exploit the opportunity to make some money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, obviously.
dan friesen
So I think that that sucks.
jordan holmes
It's no good.
dan friesen
And the end result that you're talking about, worse than Alex ripping people off.
Yeah, on a scale.
jordan holmes
Right.
But I mean, it's like, it is so hard to really comprehend just how awful, like, okay, so they blow up, they nuke Chicago.
Let's say they nuke Chicago.
Fine, you killed Chicago, but you didn't do that.
You sent radiation hundreds of miles in all directions.
So you've killed Illinois.
You haven't just done that.
You've killed the lake.
You haven't just done that.
You've killed all the great lakes because they're going to be connected.
Like, you have just wiped out a massive section of the world.
You can't use any one of these bombs ever, one time.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
But we'll probably be fine.
dan friesen
We'll find out.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I think that Alex obviously is against nuclear war.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
And I think he saw war games and he just realized that that was a good quote.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is a good quote.
alex jones
Models came out last week.
97% chance we have a nuclear war on the current trajectory.
jordan holmes
Thank God, AI sucks.
alex jones
I have to fight every instinct of self-preservation I've got because if you panic and run, it's like the pain induction box test in Dune, the novel, also in the film.
An animal will pull its hand out of a box if it's being massive pain.
But a human can control itself if it is a human and just cut it off and just say it doesn't matter.
And just understand that that's not real.
And that's where we are right now.
The only way to win this game is not to play.
And you've got all these factions that want to attack Trump just because he's Trump over the war.
And all the other factions want to say you're a traitor if you don't support total war.
There's a major tug of war in the administration over this war.
dan friesen
Or there's not.
Also, Alex seems to be forgetting about the poison needle that was to fall.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, the gum jabbar is pretty important.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We got a huge part of this scene in both the novel and the Dune to War Games move.
jordan holmes
That was fast.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That was too quick.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I get.
Okay, whatever.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's cute that he remembers that quote from War Games, but it also doesn't mean anything.
Like, let's say the only way to win the game is not to play.
If that's the case, when was the first move of the game played?
I get that Alex wants to sit on the fence now that Trump is going to war with Iran and he feels like nuclear war is probable.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But I wouldn't want to own these kinds of positions either.
But we're only here because of moves that Alex and his people made earlier in the game.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Like the only way to win is not to play the game, does not mean quit at the last second.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It doesn't mean like, hey, halfway through the game, realize you don't want to play the game.
You did this.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
You can't start the game.
That's the lesson is if you've already started the game, then you have to do it.
That's the problem with it.
Because you have to do it.
Once you start the game, that's why you don't play.
That's why you don't play.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
So if the game has started, that is no longer applicable.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
It's useless.
dan friesen
The game being unwinnable is why you don't start.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
But then you started it.
dan friesen
Yeah, you started it.
jordan holmes
So now we're all going to die.
dan friesen
You just didn't want to play like the fourth turn.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you don't get to be like, ah, no, if you run out of mana, you lose in Magic the Gathering.
You don't get to be like, ah, we'll start over later.
dan friesen
Yeah, this stinks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fuck you.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, I think Alex should be far more negative about Trump based on the fact that we're in a planetary crisis.
And in this next clip, Alex explains that basically Trump is gambling with our lives.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
alex jones
I'm not against gambling.
I'm not a gambler myself.
Alex's Critique of Trump 00:12:13
alex jones
You know, actual gambler like roulette, poker, blackjack, slot machines.
But I mean, I've gone and done it to see what it's like here and there.
I probably gambled like 10 times in Vegas, a few times on cruise ships.
You spend a little bit of money.
You decide I'm going to spend this much.
You go do it.
And then a few times, you know, my wife's winning, or I start winning, and I'm like, you know what?
I just won $2,000 above what I've done.
But These 20 degenerate gamblers, it's when they're down that they double down and go mortgage the house or whatever.
And it's just you don't gamble with other people's lives.
And I know we put Trump in to be bold, but he said they all said JD Vance said, Telsey Gabbard said, they all said, We don't want regime change in Iran.
And vote for us and we won't do that.
And then they did it.
So it's just one more thing broken.
And it is Israel that's driving the bus here.
Nick Foyne says, joined us in about 20 minutes from now.
unidentified
Oh, God.
alex jones
For an in-depth dive on this.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
Good, good stuff.
Good booking.
I think that, yeah, I mean, you got lied to.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
These people lied to you, and they are abusing the power that you entrusted upon them.
Now, the difference between that and other politicians who don't live up to their campaign promises is that Alex is psychic.
God talks to him and tells him what to do.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's silly.
It's silly for these people not to live up to their promises because Alex should have fucking known that from the jump.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people historically who've been given visions and messages from God, whenever they were in their darkest times and it looked like the messages weren't shaking out right, God would be like, hey, don't worry about it.
This sucks right now, but we're getting to a better place in the end.
It feels like Alex's God is kind of more like, Niener, Niener, Niener.
I tricked you.
I tricked you.
I'm the devil.
dan friesen
I'm going to tell you the wrong time right now.
jordan holmes
It's 3:34.
dan friesen
So, yeah, look, I mean, like, Trump's gambling with our lives.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
The degenerate gambler.
unidentified
Yep.
Good.
dan friesen
War is bad.
But can you imagine if Kamala Harris was president?
alex jones
And now you got Trump out, you know, defending Israel.
Oh, they didn't make me do it.
I made the decision.
Yeah.
Which only makes it worse, Trump.
And look, Trump also knows it's a message to Russia and China.
He's been sold.
The middle has tried to kill him.
The cases we looked at, it was a setup where they hired lunatics to do it.
The CIA did.
It came out.
I mean, I get why Trump did this.
I don't defend it, but he's still a good guy.
jordan holmes
You're defending it.
alex jones
And I'm glad he's in there in Non-Kamala.
dan friesen
He's a good guy.
He's a good guy.
unidentified
Why?
What?
dan friesen
I'm not defending him.
He's a good guy.
unidentified
Wait.
dan friesen
Can you imagine if Harris is in there?
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
So then, like, okay.
Does body count matter?
You know, like, If Trump kills 2 million people, does that mean he's finally worse than Kamala Harris?
dan friesen
Yeah.
No.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what I thought.
dan friesen
No, I don't think so.
jordan holmes
No, I don't think so either.
dan friesen
I just think retreating to these kinds of arguments are like they're showing his ass.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's that's what, god damn it, that's what makes it fun to be Alex is to hate details like shit.
Because when you have to deal with like, oh, it's complex or oh, there are details, those are all just reasons to not do what you know is very simple.
You said, oh, these fuckers told us they weren't going to do something, then they did it.
Well, guess what?
That means now they have to lose.
That's how it works.
It's that simple.
And yet somehow, if you keep talking, you'll get to, I still think he's better than Harris.
dan friesen
And let's take this another step further.
If they lied to you about something of this magnitude, why the fuck are you believing them about anything?
jordan holmes
Why would you believe them about anything?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why would you think, oh, well, I'm sure we'll need to vote on that.
dan friesen
If there are lies that involve gambling with our lives in a way that's this extreme, then like everything.
Like Trump popularized like this is fake news.
Maybe the news was real.
Like, why should you, you fucking idiots.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, Trump is saying, hey, I did this.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Because he did.
dan friesen
And then Rubio is kind of saying the opposite.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it's weird because they're both perfect human beings.
One's got to be lying, right?
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
Marco Rubio is very professional.
He's been in the OCO, but now that he's serving America first, at least under Trump, he's a very capable man.
You can't say he's not.
Very intelligent, very well-spoken, very a lot of poise.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
alex jones
And I hope he's on our team.
But I wouldn't turn my back on him, if you know what I mean.
But he came out and then said, no, Israel decided to strike, and then without our authorization, but we knew they were going to hit us right after that because we gave them the weapons.
So we went ahead and we joined in.
And what he was doing was saying, hey, we didn't start this.
It's Israel.
And we already know that.
So that's a big deal.
And we got drug into this.
And now there's major heat over that.
So Trump's doing damage control because Trump always wants to be in charge.
But I, okay, I wasn't going to release this information.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck me.
alex jones
Well, by showtime, I wasn't sure.
Because I need to think about things that are big like this.
But it's got a downside, but I think the right thing to do is tell you.
So I'm going to tell you what I've gotten from Linehouse sources at the start of the next hour when I bring Nick Fuentez on.
dan friesen
Ooh, exciting.
Alex is going to make something up.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
For fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I can't wait.
I'm really grateful that he's going to take some time to think about what he's making up for us, though.
dan friesen
He doesn't.
He actually just immediately says what his big story is.
jordan holmes
Never mind.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Take it back.
dan friesen
No, that pause that we heard.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That was where he was.
jordan holmes
That was where he was thinking up, what bullshit do I have?
What do I got in my Rolodex of bullshit right now?
dan friesen
And essentially, it's just that Trump got played.
jordan holmes
That's also like, I don't understand why you would.
Like, again, even if, so the word manipulate, right?
If you're aware of it.
But here's the other thing.
If you're not aware of it, that still makes you unfit to be a leader.
If you are manipulatable, that is a weakness that will be exploited.
We can't have you as the leader.
You'll be exploited.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you're manipulatable enough to the point that Alex needs him to be in order to get off the hook for taking action in this way, then he is.
jordan holmes
You're also disqualified.
dan friesen
There's no way you can be trusted with power.
jordan holmes
No amount of whether or not this is okay in a moral or individual sense will cover for the fact that we cannot have this as a leader.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's unsafe.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But yeah, Alex is going to try and play that card that he just got played.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
So see what I'm getting at here?
Is it, let's say you love Israel.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
You think it's great, all right?
And you love Netanyahu.
And you think, you know, he's the best thing since slice bread.
It's not right to have a foreign government and foreign power that we've allied with, that we give money and weapons to, that has pissed off the Pentagon so bad that they came out and said, not just them, but the Pentagon as well, no, Israel hit them before we knew, so we had to go in.
And Marco Rubio said it multiple times.
And then the damage control, oh, no, the Israel lobby, that's not right.
And Trump goes, yeah, that's not right.
I'm the boss.
I made the call.
Israel just punked our president.
And how does this affect JD Vance?
Very smart.
Stood up for me when he wasn't even a senator running for office, saying it was wrong.
I was de-platformed when nobody else would.
I've met him.
I've talked to him.
Very smart.
He would make a great president over Gavin Newsom.
And that's really what we should be thinking about: the midterms and the presidential election.
And it starts in like a year and a half.
dan friesen
This isn't going to fly, man.
No one cares.
This is sad.
Let's pretend that everything Alex just said is legit.
Why should he have any interest in defending Trump?
He sounds like a really bad, vain leader who just lies to the public when his image as a big, strong boy is in question.
Good luck to Alex trying to get his insane base to warm up to JD Vance, though.
That's a doomed project.
And if Alex had any sense and was able to make his own decisions, the only person he should be supporting is Thomas Massey.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that's his new Ron Paul.
He really should be doing that.
It's fucking insane that he's not.
jordan holmes
I find myself in the same situation that I've been in so often, which is whenever somebody tells me that we need to really fucking forget what's happening right now and focus on the midterms, I know I'm being fucked.
I know I'm being fucked.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I just think you have Alex being a clown.
This is nonsense.
jordan holmes
He should be free of this.
This should be the freedom that you get right now whenever everybody else is like, oh, I'm trying to figure out why I voted for Trump now that he's doing stuff that I don't.
You get to be like, hey, guess what?
Fuck everybody and then move on.
dan friesen
If he had, if he had kept some of his moves, his old move set.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
They can't.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Fuck this guy.
Fuck me.
Fuck everybody.
Let's go.
Let's do something else.
Massey, you're great.
We'll never look back.
Let's never analyze anything that happened before now, but let's just say fuck everybody and then move forward.
dan friesen
Yeah, we have a blueprint with Ron Paul, how we can market you to in-betweeners and some people on the left.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Let's fucking do this thing.
Let's make a lot of money.
jordan holmes
Everybody would love a reboot.
Everybody would love it if he just rebooted Infowars and was like, surprise, none of that stuff happened.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, the reason that Ron Paul ever got like widespread popularity is because of opposition to the Iraq war that transcended party lines.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Now you have Thomas Massey, who has transcended party lines with his dogged insistence on releasing the Epstein files and probably will be a bit against the war in Iran.
He is your Ron Paul too.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Come on, man.
Anyway, Alex is pissed off that anti-Semites are usually dumb.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, he's got a lot of evidence.
dan friesen
True.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
True.
So I think it's partially a little bit of a preemptive, like, I'm about to talk to Nick Fuentes.
I got to complain about the dumb.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
These are the bad ones.
alex jones
And it is the low-IQ attacks on Jews in Israel because Jews aren't one month with a group that fosters much of this because the average Jew is an evil or corruptor involved in some evil thing.
Bob Dylan's Sense 00:02:47
alex jones
And then when they see all this craziness and all this wild-eyedness, the social engineers over in Israel use that to get Jews, a lot of which are wealthy, to empower the Jewish globalist mind control mafia, whatever you want to call it.
You know, something that's incredibly arm for control.
Whereas I just want a big tent for everybody.
I mean, I absolutely want to recruit all the Jews over to populism and freedom and team humanity.
I mean, I listen to Bob Dylan's songs and read his writings and agree with 99% of it, not the people that know Bob Dylan behind the scenes.
Wait, And, you know, he becomes a Christian in the 80s.
He becomes an anti-globalist in the early 90s.
Then he decides it's all bull, becomes a liberal again, now becomes a conservative again.
You know, it's like, I want the Jews on Team Humanity.
And there's a bunch that are.
dan friesen
So this is a, I, I get, I, hmm.
Yeah.
This whole he's making a lot of sense.
jordan holmes
Am I, am I, do I understand him using Bob Dylan in the way that I think he is?
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
How, how do you think?
jordan holmes
I, I mean, I guess as like a ideal Jew, maybe.
That's never a good place to be when you're like, let me pick my favorite Jew.
dan friesen
It's not.
But also, like, yeah, do you know people who know him?
You used to be friends with Willie Nelson.
unidentified
Yep.
Great.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
They're only highlighting how much Willie does not like you anymore.
jordan holmes
Not anymore.
dan friesen
I don't think that Bob Dylan would be super into Alex.
I think in the 90s, 2000s, maybe.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The fake image that Alex put on back then, Bob Dylan might have had some interest in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was fun for people to adopt.
dan friesen
Yeah, there was a contrarian-ness, like anti-establishment kind of feeling that he had, but like, not now.
unidentified
No, no.
dan friesen
That illusion is gone.
jordan holmes
No, it's gone for all.
I mean, anybody who makes like, I guess that's part of why we're so fucked.
Is like anybody who makes stuff now is like, ah, shit, these people are crazy.
Like, as a function of making things, of just being part of the creative human spirit, you go, well, we can't be part of this Trump shit.
unidentified
Right?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, I guess there were other times where you could be like, ah, maybe we have differences, but we can still create stuff because I also don't like the capital gains tax or something like that.
But now it's pretty obvious.
Embrace the Messiah 00:05:45
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That guy's a Nazi.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's Kid Rock.
That's it.
jordan holmes
That's it.
That's what you've got.
dan friesen
James Woods.
jordan holmes
And even he's kind of like, I mean, I am a Nazi.
That's why I support this guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a disaster.
But the answer for the world and for everyone, especially those Jews, is Jesus and Christianity.
jordan holmes
I feel like it's not.
alex jones
We have the answer.
We have the plan.
And sociologically, I can look at that and say the only way to beat the Antichrist system is true, decentralized, personal relationship with Jesus Christ, not through the megachurch, not through the Vatican.
Individual relationship with Christ.
And what does the globalists want to shut down?
Small churches, individuals.
They hate real Christianity.
The Muslims do, everybody, because it's the answer.
God gave us the plan.
It's real.
And now as I've gotten older and I'm literally given prophetic understanding of the future, I realize God gives us free will, but he cheats.
And I don't mean that in a cheat-cheat way, but he puts us into a combat zone and gives us a boot camp and an instruction manual and tells us the rules.
Like a video game, you know, you can have the cheat file on how to be invincible.
And what's crazy is God puts us in here and goes, look, I gave you free will, but here's the cheat file.
And we say, ah, listen to what you say, including myself, because I always catch myself, I've got to be strong.
I've got to beat the New World Order.
But when I just lay back and go, no, you got to do it.
Tell me what to do.
And it's just like, and then everything is just calm victory.
It's just like, so why do I fight against that?
dan friesen
That question is a very easy answer.
And it's because Alex doesn't believe in his own religious shit, or else he would listen.
If you believe that God's given you a cheat code to get around free will and all this shit, where you've turned life into a video game and that God is the one giving you these commands, you're going to listen to him.
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
That's why delusional people act on their delusions because they believe in them.
Alex doesn't listen to God because all of this shit he's talking is fake.
This is all fucking bullshit.
His prophetic dreams are his own desire to be interesting on a radio show.
And he fucking knows that.
Shut the fuck up.
alex jones
Anyway.
dan friesen
I'm salty.
jordan holmes
He's fucking.
If you know even a little bit of the future, we can't be here.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If you know a little bit.
dan friesen
When you're on a show where the elephant in the room is that your chosen leader bombed Iran and probably started another Iraq war, you can't be like, haha, I have visions of the future.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
You got to let that go.
At the least, at very least for a while.
dan friesen
Don't remind us of how you cheerlet us here.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Put it on the back burner.
You're not a psychic for at least a year or two.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just put that back there.
Be like, I got bamboozled like everybody else.
dan friesen
You know, you got to get into the gritty reality of Thomas Massey and various things that he's doing in real granularity.
jordan holmes
You need to be Batman begins.
dan friesen
Go back to the Second Amendment.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, this is force Congress to reassert the Second Amendment.
unidentified
Please.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
So this psychic bullshit.
Come on, man.
jordan holmes
It's just so sad.
It's so sad.
Don't be psychic whenever you're in the middle of failing.
Be a psychic when you're a winner.
You know, that's when you knew what was going to happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex's game only works retroactively, which is why when he's wrong, it feels so silly.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, those Jewish people in the world, they need to accept Jesus apparently.
See, Alex's big tent.
He's a big tent kind of guy.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it is a very big tent, but there's a very strict admissions process.
dan friesen
You bet.
alex jones
It's beyond pride.
It's a it's I'm still in the flesh, so I'm struggling and I feel like I'm under attack, so I have to fight from the flesh.
And the Jews and everybody else just have to, just like I need to, need to turn loose of the flesh.
I know it's scary at the moment you do it, and just embrace death of the old self.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Just embrace death, and you'll be reborn.
Just say, I can't do it.
It's true.
Just try it, Jews.
Try it by.
Just say, Jesus, show me Jesus.
jordan holmes
Just try it, Jews.
alex jones
Just, I love you, Jesus.
Just show me.
What do you have to lose, Jews?
Oh, son, you're real scared, aren't you?
Because you've got a real potential that the devil doesn't want you to use.
So, hey, if it's Jesus in real, he's a fraud, all this stuff.
You're not betraying your people.
You're fulfilling your people.
Ask Christ.
Ask the Holy Spirit into your soul.
Accept Jesus Christ.
Take Christ's hand.
He's at the door.
Open the door.
What do you got to lose?
This is all crap.
But you know, don't you?
Fulfill your destiny.
Call on Jesus Christ.
Save the world.
Bring forth the Messiah.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
What the fuck was that?
jordan holmes
I am a fan of weird Paul Simon.
Like, what you got to lose, Jews?
dan friesen
I dare you.
I dare you to adopt my religion.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Think about it, Jews.
Come on, like, you're just talking to just everybody.
Bear Trap Warning 00:15:26
dan friesen
I do also enjoy going out to break with a rambling.
alex jones
We got to bring back the Messiah.
dan friesen
Embrace your destiny.
Bring back the Messiah.
jordan holmes
The seventh seal is opening.
dan friesen
This show is fucking insane.
He's, I just don't, I don't even know how to categorize it anymore.
It's not, it's, it's not, there's nothing attached to reality about it.
jordan holmes
It's something of a variety show.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
But there's no band.
He should have a band.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If we're doing a reboot of InfoWars, Reboot 2028, right?
Thomas Massey is our chosen guy.
We have Owen Schroer in a go-go dancing cage, and we've got a band.
We've got to have a band.
dan friesen
No, because I think Owen Schroer could be like the Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex could turn him into like a useful nemesis or something like that.
unidentified
Maybe.
dan friesen
If we're going to reboot everything.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But it would be nice to have him in a cage.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true.
So you were saying that this is a variety show.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
You know, back in the days they'd have weird animals that would be brought on.
jordan holmes
Oh, that was the Carson would bring a zookeeper on and they'd have a monkey or some shit.
Fantastic.
dan friesen
And I think that Alex is kind of similar in a way, but with like if Johnny Carson tried to flex on those animals.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
You know, he had that congressman on earlier.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he treated him in such a way as to figure out where they were.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And now he has Nick Fuentes on, and his behavior is quite different.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
In fact, it seems like he needs to preemptively stop people from complaining about the fact that he's on.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
alex jones
Fuentes is our guess.
And again, people say, this guy's pro-white.
This guy's whatever.
We have major universities saying no whites allowed.
We have whites of the devil must be exterminated in the New York Times.
This is the natural response to that.
So I don't want to hear a bunch of stuff.
I always want to say that as a premise right up front.
So Nick, you told us what was coming two years ago.
You've been proven right.
dan friesen
So he's psychic.
unidentified
Poof.
dan friesen
And I don't want to hear it when people correctly call him a white spirit.
Wow.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
jordan holmes
Sure, he's a white nationalist, but he was right about everything a couple years ago.
We've got him back on Nick Fuentes.
All right, here we go.
dan friesen
Pretending that major universities are saying no white people in the New York Times wants to kill all white people in order to justify his position.
jordan holmes
Just like it is amazing that there is no governing body for saying absolutely batshit.
But like, you know what I mean?
Like I like if there was, if I was going to create a god, it would just be somebody who like flicked you on the head whenever you said something insane.
Like, there are universities that don't even allow white people.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
There should be a noise.
There should be a bell.
There should be something.
dan friesen
Well, Alex even said major universities.
jordan holmes
Like something should stop you.
dan friesen
So Nick obviously is against the war.
He has been against Trump for a while.
He turned before the 2024 election.
And one of the main reasons was he said that Trump was probably going to go to war with Iran.
So him being there makes Alex look kind of stupid.
nick fuentes
You never see the end of the Iran war.
It's always, this is just the latest climax.
This is just the latest ceiling of hostilities between the U.S., Iran, and Israel, which have been ongoing for decades.
And I don't think this is the end of it.
So I don't know if you're going to be able to do it.
alex jones
Do you think Trump even?
I'm not trying to give him a get-out-jail-free card, but I actually know what your answer is.
I know you're smart.
Do you think Trump even understands this?
And the amateur is no.
nick fuentes
No, I don't think so.
And I think he just overestimates his abilities.
I'm sure that in part, maybe they did Venezuela to build up his confidence.
dan friesen
I don't know if I've ever heard Alex do that kind of like, please answer this way, and then actually say what he needs the answer to be.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That felt sad.
jordan holmes
That is, that is like, you know, like that, that whenever you're leaving information out, it's because you feel like if somebody had that information, they would make a choice that you did not want them to make.
So by leaving that information out, that person will make a choice that you did want them to make, right?
This is the opposite.
This is when you're like, please, I am a baby.
Please give me what I want, or I will cry and be sad.
unidentified
Yeah.
No.
dan friesen
It's two-pronged, too.
It's the, you need to answer this way.
And then also, you're giving it away when you're like, I'm not trying to get Trump off the hook here, but also he's dumb, right?
Can we just clearly doing this in order to make a justification for Trump?
jordan holmes
I don't understand why you would want this justification.
That's the thing that drives me absolutely insane.
I would prefer a competent, insane leader nut job than somebody where I'm like, well, it's okay.
He's fucking stupid.
dan friesen
You ask an interesting question, and I can't answer that, but you should direct that to Roger.
I don't know why Alex is saying this shit.
It makes no sense.
But that idea that Alex needs to be like, he's dumb.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's that's what their conversation is about.
It's just Alex kind of begging Nick to be like, Trump can be saved, right?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Again, exactly like, yeah, past interview.
alex jones
Again, I want you to quantify before we go to these clips and unpack this and what you think's coming next, what you predict next, how we can stop this.
We already said we can't, but we still got to try.
I think you're right.
I'm about to evacuate South America or something.
That's where all the globalists are going.
But here's my question.
Looking at all of this, is there?
I want you to think about this.
You already said no.
What could we do?
A peaceful demonstration?
I don't know, hang something on our doorway or Liberals will say mass strike.
I don't want to join them in that because you're allowed with Islam.
jordan holmes
Because that might work.
alex jones
There's a good way to get Trump off this destructive course we're on and then maybe describe to people as you predict to the future where this course takes us.
Nick Fuentes.
nick fuentes
Well, as I said, I'm very pessimistic about that.
And the reason being is because when you look at the numbers, it's not popular.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He makes a fine point, which is why would protest matter?
People are already against this.
And Trump's doing it anyway.
So this is just the character of their interaction.
Alex is a loser.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he's having an interview with someone that he has to act like a loser in front of.
Please say it's okay for me to continue supporting Trump.
unidentified
Right?
Please.
dan friesen
No.
Is that a kid telling him no?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Is it a kid trying to parent him?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Has nobody ever told you no before?
Oh my God.
That's what happened.
Nobody's ever told you no before.
You're just an insane person who's never been told no before.
And you got this weird show because your dad was a dentist who bought advertising whenever you were fucking nine.
dan friesen
And you became very useful to a fraud gold guy.
And then Ron Paul needed you.
And then you got seduced by a fascist.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, he, you know, Nick is, I don't know, I don't know if I would do anything different in his position, but it's kind of embarrassing him being on Infowars now.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This looks bad for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would stay away.
There's a lot of stuff that is like, maybe this is just because we live in the present, right?
And it doesn't exist for people the way that it used to.
But a lot of problems can be solved if you go away for a while.
And then people will be happy when you come back.
People don't go away anymore.
They're just back on social media.
dan friesen
It's how you successfully change a gimmick in the old wrestling days.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You got to go away.
jordan holmes
You got to go away.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that both of these interviews that Alex has, both this and with the congressperson, are just, they are bad and they're embarrassing for the other party because Alex is acting in a way that a normal person should be like, this is fucking stupid.
Why are we having this conversation?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But the congressman is, he's engaged in this conversation in a way that Alex is steering and he's controlling.
Nick is engaged in this conversation in a way that Nick is controlling.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
It's just more evidence of Alex supplicating.
You know, it is more evidence of Alex going to the fucking white nationalist pyramid and hoping that the Pharaoh will help him grow crops and shit.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
And so we get to, you know, really the point.
And that is that like Alex has to recognize, and it's clear that he's feeling that there's a moral imperative to be against Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you have to.
dan friesen
And when he sits down with a little baby Nazi, he can't really argue that.
alex jones
We're being sold on a forever war right now.
And so here's my problem.
I don't want the Democrats open to the border.
I like Trump killing the carbon tax.
I like to know tax on tips.
There's all this good stuff.
But rapidly, like I can ignore some stuff and hold my nose with Trump, but quickly, I mean, by the hour, I morally cannot be part of this.
You're already there saying, vote Democrat.
You're saying that as a carry of the stick, but I mean, what the hell's going on here?
nick fuentes
I think you have to.
I think you have to vote Democrat in 26, and I'll tell you why.
I mean, we're being told always that the Republicans are the lesser of two evils, that they're going to be marginally better than the Democrats.
Look at all of the broken promises.
Epstein files, that's huge.
It's huge.
And let's be honest, they tried to cover it up.
It's not like they fumbled that.
It's not like they made a mistake.
They engaged in an active cover-up and they failed only because of a revolt within their own party.
And now Marjorie Greene is an outcast.
She was like the MAGA congresswoman.
She was like the one in Congress who came after Trump won the election.
She's an outcast because she led the coup to get the Epstein files released.
That's a big one.
dan friesen
It's big.
That looks bad.
jordan holmes
Hey, buddy, welcome to political disaffection.
dan friesen
I think that Nick is obviously, you know, his politics and his ideas are incompatible with a decent society.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But he has reached basically the end point of where all of this should go for people who are in like Alex's camp, which is like, okay, the fucking outsider renegade candidate is just another illusion.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You idiots.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And so he just wants people to vote them now in the midterms.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it is like the difference between a functioning bear trap and not, right?
If you step on the pressure, the bear trap snaps, right?
That's how you know it's a working bear trap.
If it doesn't, if you can step on it, then it's meaningless.
It's just more ground, right?
Like if you can just step on Alex's face and he'll still be like, how do we save him?
He's just stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Then you're a shitty trap, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Like an hour ago, Alex was like, he's a good guy.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He's covering up Epstein's stuff, but it's no big deal.
He's not really involved.
Like, what Nick is actually saying isn't really that different than what Alex is saying.
But Nick has a point.
Alex is trying to obscure and, like, hey, look, I don't want the open, I don't want the Democrats to be.
Isn't it great that Harris isn't in office?
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, he wants to make you feel like he's on your team, while at the same time, at the end of this, nothing happens.
Whereas with Fuentes, at the end of it, it is we need to get Trump out of office.
That is the idea.
dan friesen
But it's not get Trump out of office for a good reason.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's to make things worse.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's a critical thing to understand about his position.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And I think that a lot of people are making some dunks and maybe talking about Nick saying that people should vote Democrat.
And I think they should just ignore it.
unidentified
Yep.
nick fuentes
Thousands of American and Israeli airstrikes destroying Iran's military.
Here's how I feel about it.
If you will tolerate that, you will tolerate anything.
Like, at what point do you say no?
What point do you say there's no excuses?
People say, well, if there's boots on the ground, boots on the ground.
Dude, they're dropping bombs everywhere.
And it's in Iran.
So for me, I said, that's the last straw.
I'm out.
And you know me, I'm the furthest thing from a Democrat.
I'm far right.
I'm not left-wing or even liberal.
I don't consider myself even a center liberal or a right.
alex jones
Talk about that Democrats get in.
Isn't that accelerationist?
nick fuentes
No, I think that the opposite.
I don't know that I would care about accelerationist.
I would characterize it as corrective, and it's sending a message to the GOP before the big one, which is 28.
alex jones
I think the only leverage we've got is the wake-up call.
nick fuentes
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I think that anybody, I don't know who would, but anybody who thinks like, hey, Nick wants to vote Democrat, there's some possibility of alliance or there's some possibility of like, it's the same mentality that like the Harris campaign would engage in with Dick Cheney endorsing them.
jordan holmes
You bet.
dan friesen
You should ignore this.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
If you want to accept it in any way, you need to accept it in a like, fuck you way.
There needs to be a like, okay, we're the Harris campaign.
Dick Cheney wants to support us.
We're going to insult him.
jordan holmes
If we get elected, thank you for your support.
If we get elected, I will put you in jail for the rest of your life.
For the rest of your life.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you want to vote for Democrat, great.
Enjoy your way of sticking it to the GOP in order to make them more extreme.
unidentified
Good.
dan friesen
Who cares?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It does not affect, it is not a meaningful political thing.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
This is strategic.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it's not as if we've ever seen in the past the Republicans reject somebody and then vote for Democrats, and then the Democrats go, we have to get more Republicans, and then they move further to the right, and then in response, the Republicans go further in the right, and then, wait, wait, wait, that's how we got here.
Force Their Hand 00:11:33
unidentified
Huh.
dan friesen
The only way really to fight back, I think, against this kind of mentality, and I think it would be a fool's errand to do because I think it would blow up in your face.
But if the Nazis are going to go left and vote Democrat, then the left should go very left.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
Make them vote for candidates that believe in things that are impossible to get through otherwise.
Vote for people who would give Medicare for all.
Like these kinds of things, like you have to force their hand then.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
If they're in a position where they're openly talking about sticking it to the GOP with a corrective vote in the midterms, then you need to punish them.
jordan holmes
Now, here is my counterpoint based on the evidence we have.
What if instead you fondle their balls so they feel good about themselves?
Despite the fact that they have been horribly abusive to you forever, and then will continue to do so once you stop fondling their balls.
dan friesen
That's a bad strategy.
jordan holmes
It is a bad strategy.
dan friesen
But while I'm on the subject, mine was bad too.
I don't think it would work.
And I think it would have more of a tendency to blow up in your face than not.
And any strategy that would rely on their support is no good.
No, it's the stupidest.
unidentified
It's no good.
dan friesen
Stupidest thing in the world.
But I think it's cute.
I think it's cute that Nick is saying this to Alex's face.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, yeah, the irony of all of it is that the irony of all of this, all of this, is that right now, Nick Fuentes is saying in 1991, we need to vote for Clinton.
That is exactly what is happening.
dan friesen
Well, midterms.
jordan holmes
See, that's the whichever you like.
dan friesen
He is very set, and he does express this, that voting that way in the midterms is in order to make sure there's a good candidate in 2028.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
So it is all in service of like course correcting for the extreme right.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
They've gotten off track with Trump and all this bullshit.
So like there is no, he would not say this probably, well, no, because he did say it in 2024.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He said, don't vote for Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
And then, you know, Clinton's stuff will lead to back here.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
It's a great cycle.
jordan holmes
It's a good cycle.
dan friesen
So, you know, you have Marco Rubio coming out and saying that Israel forced our hand.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And then you got Trump coming out and saying, I forced Israel's hand.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Nick is annoyed that Trump is just lying.
donald j trump
So if anything, I might have forced Israel's hand.
But Israel was ready and we were ready and we've had a very, very powerful impact.
alex jones
Well, since the 80s, Iran has not launched an attack first.
Every attack has been a response, a retaliatory attack.
I mean, that is literally pulled out of Trump's butt, Nick.
nick fuentes
It is.
And that's exactly what happened last year, too.
Israel came in and Trump said, oh, we knew they were doing it.
They told us.
And the whole negotiations were a ruse.
It's almost just childish to see Trump in the White House almost.
Well, actually, I forced Israel to do it.
This is when Trump just becomes grading.
You know, all those things we thought were charming 10 years ago or endearing or funny.
Now it's just grading and insufferable.
He's obviously full of it.
There's nothing true about that at all.
This idea that, like you say, that Iran was about to attack us, really.
dan friesen
See, it used to be fun how Trump would pursue his own interests to the point of directly lying to everyone's face shamelessly.
But now I don't like it when he's doing it.
I don't like why he's doing it anymore.
So it's grading.
That's all Nick's saying.
Like, we used to love his lies and the brazenness of his lies.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And now it sucks.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, sometimes there's like this feeling of an I told you so in a like, I have the experience of this.
You haven't had the experience.
It makes sense for you to not know this.
I am telling you so, but not in a like douchebaggy way, in just like a see what experience counts for.
Right.
And I don't have that with him.
I will fight him to my dying day with every breath I have.
I hate him so fucking much.
And so this idea of him being like, no, fuck off.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
You fucking asshole.
This was predictable.
We told you this was going to happen.
You knew it was going to happen.
Fuck you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think the correct response to Nick being like, vote them is I'll punch you still.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'll fight you to the death right now.
Right now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Vote for anybody.
dan friesen
Whatever you believe in isn't political.
And trying to make this argument within the political structure and framework is you're trying to hurt and kill a lot of people.
And great.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is not a ballot issue.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So I think one of the things that makes it even more difficult is that like Alex is a loser.
He is just acting like a total loser, raising the white flag to Nick.
alex jones
You've been righter than me on this.
And I'm not always right.
I'm right about 90% of the time.
I've been very honest.
So I'm going to now meaca because when I'm wrong, I'm going to say it publicly.
I needed Trump to be real and so much good stuff, the carbon tax getting out of it.
You can go for an hour.
And it's still better than that, but you can't have less or two evils.
I have the Democrats trying to put me in prison.
I just got subpoenaed again to defend when I got Arctic Frost.
I got to go to Congress and provide my documents because going after, you know, Jack Smith.
So the Democrats are trying to put me in prison.
They run show trials on HBO.
So obviously, it's not going to be paid off by Trump.
I've been persecuted for supporting him.
So I want to now pay out on this.
I want to save the country, secure the border, find the missing kids.
I want to believe.
But I'm not in a cult.
I'm not delusional.
So I was like, I'm critical.
I'm critical.
This is overall good.
And now I'm just like, now I'm having to think of the off-ramp.
Nick, we've talked about this privately.
You know, you're targeted too.
They're going to kill your house.
This is, we're, we're, your name's Nick Jay Fuentez.
I'm Alex E. Jones.
We're real people.
We're under attack.
So we're in the real world.
You do what you think's right.
I do what I think's right.
You're not paid by people.
I'm not just our fans.
So to me, I needed Trump as my, my lifeboat may not be perfect, but it's the lifeboat I've got.
And I'm watching it sink by its own doing.
And so this is horrifying.
And so, but I can't sign on to covering up Epstein.
I can't sign on to World War III.
And so that's why I tried to promote the optimism because I fucking need this, man.
dan friesen
That feels like one of the realest moments on Alex's show in a very long time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I fucking needed this.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I pretended everything was good and I liked this and I acted like there was optimism because I fucking needed this.
Nick, you baby Nazi.
You're right.
I was wrong about this.
And fuck, it sucks.
Now, I don't think this means anything.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
I think he'll go back to being like, aren't you glad Kamala's not in office tomorrow?
jordan holmes
I don't believe it.
dan friesen
But this is a real moment of this was about my feelings.
jordan holmes
Acknowledging that he needed it, especially in that tone.
That's different.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is different.
dan friesen
He fake cries a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There was a feeling of almost like he was going to cry there that felt real.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because it was about himself.
jordan holmes
Don't expect the person at an intervention not to try and escape.
But if you hear that tone of voice, it's going to go back to the same as it was tomorrow.
But there's something there.
dan friesen
It's having an experience.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I needed this shit to be real, so I acted like it was real.
And it is now clearly fake.
And what the fuck?
What do I do?
Where's my off-ramp?
There isn't one.
You don't get an off-ramp.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And then you committed your name, your treasure, your blood, all of this stuff to pretending that Trump was a good life raft.
You sink.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Good luck.
jordan holmes
Done.
dan friesen
If he goes off the air on the seventh, like he's claimed is going to yeah, if that happens, see ya.
Yeah, like you, this is a that would be a great last image of Alex.
jordan holmes
I needed this, I needed this.
dan friesen
Fuck you.
jordan holmes
Well, you got what you deserved, I guess.
Yeah, but not even that.
You got you got worse because you deserve fucking horrifying shit.
dan friesen
No, I well, yes, he deserves more immediate negatives.
Yeah, but I think there's got to be something that's really hard, really hard to deal with for someone who has as much narcissism and pride as him to know that you have supplicated yourself in this way to a child.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
To a bigot child who you know is a bigot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't like watch.
Listen, I'm fine with everybody's cakes, but I don't like having it out in public without my awareness or consent.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, watching this feels like some sort of dom thing that I didn't, I didn't like, hey, what's everybody doing?
unidentified
Oh!
dan friesen
But I don't even think Nick wanted it.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I think Alexander's going through it.
jordan holmes
He's just there.
unidentified
Yeah.
I don't know.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip, and it's Alex continuing this feeling that he's in.
And it reminded me a lot of earlier times when he would have Rappaport on, John Rappaport.
And he would need Rappaport to console him.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
There would be times when he would be like, John, John, help me.
I'm in the bushes.
I feel like now that's what he's trying to get from Nick.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
And that's funny.
alex jones
It's sad to see somebody you fought bled for die.
nick fuentes
Yeah, and you know, that's my whole adult life.
I know that's a huge part of your life also.
And now we're witnessing it.
It's totally unraveling.
It's an utter and complete betrayal.
It's heartbreaking in many ways.
alex jones
Now, when I'm trying to salvage it with people, I get attacked as a liberal, which is when these people doing that don't even can't even find I ran on a fucking map.
nick fuentes
Yeah, well, what's called for is for us to be sober-minded about the entire thing, you know, because there's a lot of haters.
alex jones
I've been a realist all time, but was hoping, and now I'm just not even hoping.
I'm just going to be a realist.
nick fuentes
Yeah, I mean, and really, it's okay to have hope.
I mean, we hope for a better future, but we got to be brutally honest about what this administration has become.
dan friesen
Jesus, man.
Nick, make me feel better.
jordan holmes
Jeez.
dan friesen
I was dumb to be optimistic.
No, hope is okay, Alex.
Hope is okay.
You're fine.
You're good.
jordan holmes
If I'm at a playground next week and I'm just like crying, asking a six-year-old to console me, that's about where I feel like we're at on this show right now.
dan friesen
Very much.
Very much.
And the sales of the.
jordan holmes
You're so wise.
dan friesen
And the six-year-old is a racist and hates you and thinks you work for the Jews.
Alex in Deep Shit 00:02:23
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep.
That's a rough six-year-old.
Tough times out there.
dan friesen
He's only consoling you on the schoolyard because there's something that they could gain candy out of.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
They know that you have a big candy supply.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
It's a double Halloween out here.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I think Alex is in trouble.
I think, obviously, there's the ticking clock of the seventh, which we don't know if that's going to be his last day on air or not.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
That's what he said.
jordan holmes
That's what he said.
dan friesen
I don't necessarily think it's going to come and go.
jordan holmes
We'll see what happens.
dan friesen
Who knows?
But also, just like he is, as he put it at the beginning of the show, he's in deep shit.
jordan holmes
Like, he fucking needed this.
dan friesen
He needed this to go right, and Trump has done literally everything wrong.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And I don't really see a way out, but I also don't see him even taking any off-ramp.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it looks like he's, it looks like there's no bottom.
It looks like there's no way for him to have like a red line.
It looks like he's just going to keep walking forward into the ocean.
dan friesen
Trump put his dick in a hole and a rattler bit it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's not, if that's not over, then I don't know.
jordan holmes
I, if, if, okay.
Now, let me throw this out there because this I think should be our new 2028 question.
All right.
Trump the nameless guy who's got a rattlesnake bite on his dick.
Who's better?
dan friesen
I think you have to go rattlesnake guy.
jordan holmes
You got to go rattlesnake dick.
unidentified
Yeah.
Right?
dan friesen
We don't know anything else about his policies.
We know quite a bit about Trump.
jordan holmes
All we know about him is that he has got a rattlesnake bite on his penis.
And that seems like a fair starting point for me at this point.
dan friesen
Snake guy for Prez.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
I'm down.
dan friesen
So we'll see.
We'll see what he tries, how he's going to get out of this pickle.
jordan holmes
How's he going to jump the general lee over this one?
dan friesen
But until we do, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
jordan holmes
Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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