Knowledge Fight - #1118: March 14, 2006

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#1118: March 14, 2006

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March 14, 2006 episode dissects Alex Jones’ bizarre claims about Slobodan Milosevic’s death—ignoring his wife’s visits and legal rights—while framing him as a victim of media smear campaigns, like Time magazine’s 1992 cover or Srebrenica’s 8,000+ victims. His shifting stances on power, from dismissing the presidency to obsessing over Bilderberg attendees like Mark Warner (who never won in 2008), reveal opportunistic rhetoric, not ideological consistency. The hosts mock his conspiracy-driven introductions and expose his pattern of deflecting accountability by blaming "globalists," underscoring how his narratives prioritize spectacle over substance. [Automatically generated summary]
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dan friesen

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jordan holmes

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Speaker	Time	Text
Pikmin's Mundane Villain 00:05:45
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating.
		Knowledgefight.com.
		It's time to pray.
		I have great respect for knowledge fight.
		Knowledge fight.
		I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
		Shang me are the bad guys.
		Knowledge fight.
unidentified		Dan and Jordan.
unidentified		Knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I need money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Riddler.
		Andy and Pansy.
		Andy and Pandy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Andy and Kansas.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy.
unidentified		Andy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's time to pray.
		Andy in Kansas.
		You're on the earth.
unidentified		Thanks for all of us.
		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a fixed Finn Colorado Huge fan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your world.
unidentified		Knowledge Fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		KnowledgeFight.com.
unidentified		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple dudes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jerry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
unidentified		Jordan.
unidentified		Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, we have a tradition.
unidentified		It is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is February, so that means that I go second.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Okay.
		My bright spot today is that Jill Scott has a new album out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's very good.
		It's fantastic.
		It's her first album in like 10 years.
		And she does my favorite thing that Jill Scott does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is she's a poet and she finds the metaphor in the mundane, which is always lovely.
		But also, sometimes that looks like, I woke up at four.
		I got some eggs.
		Like, it's just narrating your day.
		And it's like sometimes you're finding the metaphor in the mundane.
		Sometimes you're just narrating your day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes it's just the mundane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes it's just like you really needed to tell me about these scrambled eggs you made.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And maybe there's a metaphor in there that you, Jordan, I don't need it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it just seems mundane to you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Someone else might be crying about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Somebody else might be losing their mind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, there's also the mundane in there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, my friend.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes it's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes it's a penis.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And sometimes it explodes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, the cigar or the penis?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Both.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		On a birthday.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing some eyebrow wagging at you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's your bright spot?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm feeling a little bit better.
		We're a little bit late with this episode because I got struck with another illness.
		It was weird.
		I feel like neither of us were sick pretty much through COVID.
		Decade.
		And this year has just already been a bit of illness.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That one we got at the beginning of January fucked up our immune system because it might be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For 10 years, I don't think I've ever gotten sick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it's very weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And then I got sick again, too.
		We've both been sick twice already within the first two months.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's something crazy times.
		But yeah, I was sleeping a lot, did a lot of sleeping.
		Wow.
		But also had a little bit of time to enjoy some Pikmin.
		So I've been making my way through Pikmin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I have some observations that I'd like to share with the people.
		Okay.
		They're all good so far.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All the Pikmin are good so far.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All Pikmin are good Pikmin.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm on Pikmin 3, and that is really where it came together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pikmin 1 is good, but it's kind of easy, and it's a little bit short and almost like proof of concept.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was about to say proof of concept.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This could be fun if we nail it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it has the feel of like a very successful indie-ish game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, gotcha.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then two, they evolve on some of the stuff, but it's not fully there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then I think in three, it's just like, this is the fucking game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You guys nailed it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is so good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
		So yeah, and I'm still just enjoying the hell out of it as I play.
		I've played them many times throughout my life, and I'm still enjoying throwing those little guys around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There are just some games like that where it is, for whatever reason, like the time in your life when it hits you, or just like this gameplay loop, the tactile feel of it just hits my brain right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think there's just a lot of charm.
		It looks so good.
		Like everything is cartoony and pleasant, and most of it is like you're running around little gardens or whatever, trying to pick up bottle caps and shit.
		It's just fun and calming in the same way that a lot of people found like Animal Crossing calming.
		And then those little guys, they're fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You throw them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No argument.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's fun to throw little guys.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think, you know, this sucks, but I do feel like the villains in the game have it coming.
		Like, I feel bad that there's combat.
		It would be nice if there wasn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But those big guys, they're going to eat your little guys at night if you don't kill them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, to a certain extent, narratively, every villain has to be deserving of their comeuppance, regardless of whether or not we would say so outside.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The narrative has to drive towards them receiving an equal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would argue that in a lot of narrative-driven stuff, the villain has a good point, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, oftentimes they're misunderstood or they're like, hey, they're right, but they're going about things in the wrong way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These villains in Pikmin, nah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what, undercut Black Panther?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because I think Michael Big Jordan's character does have a lot of really good points, but it's tough when your name is Killmonger to be the good guy.
Villains With Good Points 00:02:06
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't name yourself Killmonger if you're the good guy, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not a name that you negotiate with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't come around on Killmonger.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, You're trying to send a message.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		I mean, there's a villain named like Apocalypse, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like that guy's not going to be, he's not chill.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, on the other hand, if the villain names himself just like Terry Jones, you're like, I mean, it seems like he could be a normal guy eventually.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or like your name as a supervillain is, we've got to deal with the problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Then it's like, well, yeah, you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to Systemic Issues, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I could hang with that quicker than Killmonger.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Killmonger is real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think you just write yourself into the corner once you name a character.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People are going to treat you a certain way.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, we had a Killmonger to talk about today, and we'll do that in a second.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what a transition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
unidentified		Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So first, Paul in Alabama has just joined the ranks of the policy wonks.
		Thank you so much.
		You're an IPOCWonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Next, Agrippa says, Jar Jar Binks to the wonk, sorry, technocrat on Aegis Company that Kaiju has a black Caribbean accent.
		Thank you so much.
		You're an Iopolis Wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		And Lumpsky Bear.
		Thank you so much.
		You're an Iow Policy Wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		And we got a technical credit in the mix, Jordan.
		So thank you so much to Lucy Lee into my yang.
		Happy birthday.
		I love you, Mr. Kylie.
		Thank you so much.
		You're now a technocrat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified		Four stars.
unidentified		Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor james david manning ▲ ● ▼		Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Daddy Sharp.
		Bomb, Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
		He's a loser, little kitty baby.
		I don't want to hate black people.
		I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, today we are back in the past.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
Slobo's Mass Graves Mystery 00:14:59
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think when you're a little bit under the weather, it's tough to listen to Alex.
		He's an annoying man, and it's a challenge.
		But when you have a head cold and a fever, you don't want to be listening to this fella.
		So I decided to, you know, we got to make things easy on myself.
		Let's stay in the past.
		So we're going to be talking about March 14th, 2006.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there's not a lot here.
		There's a lot of filler on the episode itself.
		But some of the things that we're looking at in 2006 are heavily developed.
		Namely, Alex's relationship with Slobodan Milosevic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is, I mean, sure.
		All right, so we're going to find out that it's okay for him to use slowbo.
		They are close.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's quite I think we're going to come away from this with a Alex is neutral on genocide Well, I mean, neutral.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've thrown this out at you.
		There is no neutral on genocide.
		Neutral, you're on one side.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's an interesting take you have, and I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we start off here, and Alex is talking about how Slobo was murdered.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Global Crime Syndicate, spin doctors, intelligence agents are in overdrive right now trying to spin the murder of Sloban Milanzevic.
		It fits the classic MO.
		He said he was being poisoned, said he was going to be murdered.
		And they had, admittedly, 24-hour a day bright lights on him for years.
		He never was allowed to have even semi-darkness.
		And video cameras on him at all times.
		It had been even an international news that there would be three guards whenever anyone was in the cell with him.
		He has not seen his wife or children in five years since they grabbed him.
		So no one was allowed in to even see him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's all not true.
		And it's unclear where Alex is even taking those assertions from.
		For one thing, Slobodan Milosevic was acting as his own lawyer, and that granted him certain privacies from the jail and the prosecution.
		He was able to have a private office area, and he was able to meet with people confidentially when it was arguably part of his defense.
		This is how he took many meetings that were likely how his associates smuggled various drugs into him.
		They had to give him privileged visiting for like partially because of head of state stuff and then also partially because of he's acting as his own lawyer.
		He can't have a fair trial if you're always watching him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The jail that Slobo was kept in had a separate comfort room for conjugal visits.
		And while I'm not sure if he ever used it with his wife, she did visit him on multiple occasions.
		This behavior from Alex seems sort of desperate.
		Like a major world event happened and he needs to make a conspiracy out of it.
		I'm not sure there's much of an upside to this because I have no idea what the globalists would hope to gain out of killing Milosevic at this point.
		If the idea was that they were killing him to shut him up, they took their sweet time with that and allowed him to speak in court in his own defense quite a bit already at this point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For Alex, everything has to be interesting.
		And Slobodan Milosevic's death isn't really all that interesting.
		Him dying of a heart attack during his trial for crimes against humanity is disappointing from a narrative standpoint because there isn't a big closure where he's held responsible for his actions, or he gets to have this big third-act Deusex Machino reveal that he was innocent all along.
		Him just dying sucks, but life sucks sometimes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When people say that folks gravitate toward conspiracy theories because they make them feel better, it often means something like this: the international community spent all this time unseating Milosevic and then all of this time putting him on trial.
		Then, what does that even amount to?
		It ends with a heart attack before the verdict even comes down.
		This is an intolerable level of chaos, and most people just want any other explanation.
		Alex is willing to directly lie to the audience and make a victim out of Slobodan Milosevic because doing that helps him pretend that there's an order to the universe.
		He couldn't have just randomly died of a heart attack.
		This is too important of a show to get canceled mid-season.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex is providing people with the feeling of like, oh no, this is actually part of a bigger plot, as opposed to like, no, it's just a letdown.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It sucks.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think we talked about it off air a little bit, but like, listen, you don't send Napoleon to the island.
		You just kill him.
		Right?
		You can't be doing this.
		You got to learn your lesson.
		We fucked up that one time.
		Slowbo, eh, I get it.
		We all want trials and all that shit.
		No, get him out of here.
		What are we doing?
		You guys are the ones who unseated him from the thing because you know he did the crime.
		Once you unseat him, that is the trial, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, not necessarily.
		I mean, like, you could make an argument of it wasn't like the UN that unseated him.
		Sure.
		Obviously, there were, you know, there was international support for the groups that were opposing him and shit.
		But like, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
		I think that the rule of law is important.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that what you're expressing, you run the risk of airing too far the other direction.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I understand that risk, but here's my line for you: Slobodan Milosevic.
		I won't go any further than Slobo.
		Yeah, that's our Mendoza line.
		If you're Slobo, sorry, fuck off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not being quiet because I'm disagreeing with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm being quiet because I keep wanting to make a no-Slowboat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm just like, don't do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on, man.
		What is this?
		2020?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ.
		I don't know.
		I think that there is value to having a quicker prosecution.
		Certainly, let's say that we can agree in the middle there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, all I'm saying is that once you're guarding Slobodan Milosevic and he's bringing in somebody to fuck, we've ruined, we've messed up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We are wrong.
		Yeah.
		So Alex thinks that the entire story about Serbia is all a fraud.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this is a mess.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The whole story we've heard about what happened in Serbia is a fraud.
		And if Slobo's a monster, then the Croats and the Muslims are even bigger monsters.
		If he's a demon, there's Satan in what really happened over there.
		And it's admitted.
		I mean, we've interviewed people like Senator Inhoff years ago who went over there.
		Piles of dead Serb soldiers.
		The coalition forces would kill Serbs, put them in the KLA uniforms, put them in Muslim civilian clothes, stage mass graves.
		They'd show piles of manure as fertilizer at farms and claim they were mass graves from orbit with satellites.
		That was proven to be frauds.
		They would stage massacres.
		All admitted.
		You understand?
		It is admitted that all those big headlines and all those big top stories and all the things you heard, mainstream news, the government news, has retracted, but always back of the paper, tiny blurb.
		The propaganda pieces, though, were top news for weeks, top news every night, top news on the cable channels, cover of Time, Newsweek, people, just everything.
		Just, oh, the mass murder, oh, the concentration camp victims.
		When really it would be UN in one case, refugees all around a UN food center with barbed wire around it trying to get in to get the food.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is some really disgusting stuff, and I don't want to nitpick this with too much of a fine-toothed comb, but I want to bring up a glaring point that Alex needs to do a better job about.
		We discussed this Time magazine cover that Alex is talking about on our last 2006 episode, and he's lying about what it captured.
		We didn't talk about this on the last episode, but Alex is getting the claim that this footage was all faked as a big propaganda stunt from an article that was published in a communist magazine called Living Marxism.
		Doesn't seem like that's the kind of place Alex would get his news, but hey, you know, 2006 is a different time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a different time, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Living Marxism published an article attacking the ITN reporters' coverage of the camps in Bosnia, so the reporters sued them and won a massive judgment in the high court.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		ITN said that they would give the money they got out of the judgment to the Red Cross, and Living Marxism was put out of business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The claims that Alex is relying on to deny Milosevic's crimes are actually just libels that have already been adjudicated in court, and he has every reason to know that.
		But the bigger problem for his show is that that picture was captured during the Bosnian war, not the Kosovo War.
		If Alex wants to make Slobodan Milosevic into the good guy because he was fighting against Muslims or Albanians in the Kosovo liberation army, that's wrong.
		But at least from the conventionally accepted borders of the time, Kosovo was within the territory of Serbia.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'd be wrong to do so, but Alex could take the position that Slobo carried out atrocities for the sake of putting down a rebellion that was carrying out even greater.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, He could maybe stand on that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you wanted to be.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Milosevic began a war against the KLA in 1998.
		The picture of the man at the concentration camp that was on the cover of Time was from August 1992.
		That picture was taken in Bosnia and Herzegovina, where the Serb population of that country, with the assistance of Milosevic, were trying to wipe out the Muslim and Croat populations.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is trying to argue that Milosevic is the good guy or lesser of the bad guys in the Kosovo war.
		But the examples of instances where he thinks the globalists did propaganda false flags are about the Bosnian war.
		Even that mass graves thing that he's talking about has to do with Serebrnenka, which is in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
		The UN had decided that Srebrenica was a safe zone.
		So naturally, that led to refugees from around the country going there to escape violence.
		In 1995, Serb forces stormed Sabrenica and killed over 8,000 people.
		U.S. intelligence produced satellite images of mass graves, which prompted Bosnian Serb forces to dig up the graves and rebury bodies in various locations, so someone might think that the graves were just manure piles if they came to investigate, which is what Alex is perpetuating.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is saying monstrous stuff here, and like, it's very inexcusable at this point in 2006 for him to have these takes.
		Yeah.
		But bigger problem, I don't think he knows the difference between Bosnia and Kosovo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it does feel like that is the case.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if he knows the difference between Bosnia and Serbia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Than that they're at war.
		Like, if the details of who's who lost on him, he knows that two people are at war.
		That's kind of more what I'm getting from him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he understands that it all has something to do with Yugoslavia.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But he doesn't know where that is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't know why Muslims are really involved because Muslims and commies, and but also he doesn't really know where Kosovo is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I think he knows that one a little better.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because, you know, he's talking about like Jim Inhoff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Jim Inhoff was a major supporter of Kosovo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Senator.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so, like, I think that Alex understands that one geographically, but I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't, I don't know if he understands the distinction between things that happened when and how both have to do with Milosevic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he, I think he just thinks like, ah, he's, he's dealing with uprisings or something.
		Whatever it is, I don't think he comes off as in any way a trustworthy source of information.
		Right.
		Anybody who was listening to this who had read stuff should probably be like, this guy sounds like a fucking idiot.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Let me throw this out at you.
		Again, here, not to belabor the point, but Slobo, you know, because I think if I were to go by, if you, hey, listen, you don't get a trial if you made a mass grave and then made people dig it up to hide that you made a mass grave.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because I feel like the net that that would catch, very small.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		I think that it's unfortunate, but the way that a lot of the atrocities were carried out were maybe difficult to link directly to Solobodan Milosevic.
		Sure.
		Because there were, you know, like Serbian militias within Bosnia and Herzegovina.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or Croatia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And like, I think that maybe some of those mass graves that we were talking about, maybe you wouldn't be able to tie it back to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe even some of the concentration camps and shit that we've, you know, we'll be fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Man, weird that Alex likes this guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's horrifying that he likes this guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this next clip, even more horrifying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In one case, refugees all around a UN food center with barbed wire around it trying to get in to get the food.
		And they show one guy who had tuberculosis who was very, very skinny.
		And of course, then if you see the rest of the video, which has now been shown, it shows fat people on either side of him.
		But they are there disheveled, begging for food.
		And they said, look at him in a Serb camp.
		Total lie.
		They staged it knowingly, and the ITN individuals have now been proven to be government operatives.
		This is what they do.
		And so get past your emotion of, I don't like him.
		He's a Hitler.
		Not true.
		Did they go around and get into ethnic warfare?
		Did they try to force people out of certain areas?
		Yes.
		Were they first?
		Yes.
		Did they not give in to the UN and the New World Order?
		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		So you chose a random date for us to go back to.
		And I think we've accidentally stumbled onto one of the most revealing moments in Alex's career.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not opposed to genocide and ethnic cleansing if you just say you didn't start it.
Revealing Moments in Alex's Career 00:15:38
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, okay.
		Like, while I understand the concept of I didn't start it, once you go force people out of their homes, you are starting it.
		Now, you have now started a second part of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did they start an ethnic war and it displaced them?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like you can't yada yada yada.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, granted, they did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's not okay.
		That's not even a, that's not like an, ah, you get one.
		You don't get any.
		Hey, come on.
		Boys will be boys.
		I'm sure they'll learn their lesson.
		No, once you take a bunch of people's land, you're probably going to keep doing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine Alex being this blunt.
		The present.
		This is so.
		This is so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are we going to do a little ethnic cleansing?
		Ice.
		What do you want?
		I don't know.
		It stands for I see ethnic cleansing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's hard to imagine why you, you know, this is difficult because no one really took this seriously.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It feels like this should have been way more important than it was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I guess it feels like, so it's 2006.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The people aren't too interested in Slowbo.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's like a back page story.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's been in the Hague for five years.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For five years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		So I can understand why this doesn't move the needle for a large group of people.
		But at the same time, it should raise your ear and go, wait, he's fine with ethnic cleansing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're seven years removed from the end of the Balkan War.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		And like, so I guess maybe some of the heat of, I think this is a sweet spot, too, because 2006 isn't where, like, social media isn't around.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So people aren't going to be making a big deal out of like Alex's wishy-washy on ethnic cleansing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This could disappear into the radio waves and people wouldn't be able to like, you know, remember it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so hard to put yourself back in a pre-everybody's on Facebook world where it's like anything could turn into the topic of Facebook that day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whereas this could just be there and gone and no one would ever remember.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but then if you take this seriously and you take the position that he has seriously, then like obviously he's in favor of expelling non-white people from the United States.
		He feels like they're trying to start an ethnic war with that.
		It's exactly the like it totally makes sense how brutal he wants things to be and it explains his presentation like they just should have taken him seriously.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean it is it is wild to think that of all the problems that we've had with so many political figures that Alex specifically has had with so many of those political figures, it is the one most like Slobodan Milosevic that he decided to support.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Slowbo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Slowbo and Trump are not that far apart.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think, yeah, one of them had a better reality show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was keeping up with the Slowbos.
unidentified		Oh, God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, everything that we're told about Milosevic obviously can't be true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It cannot be true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's just so amazing that what we were told about Slowbo and Arcan and all the rest of these guys, 95% of it wasn't true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Were they hard-nosed?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but 5% is still...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Were they doing a lot of bad things?
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Were their backs against the wall under attack and under siege?
unidentified		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I didn't mean to start the show with this today.
		I just start looking at this New York Times article.
		Experts suggest Milajevic died in a drug ploy.
		Yes, he did it.
		There's no evidence of that.
		All the evidence is they poisoned him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex in that clip said the things we hear about Slowbo and Archon are not true.
		Uh-oh.
		Do you know that guy?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't remember him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Archon was the alias of a guy named Zelko Raznatovic, who was one of the most brutal and violent warlords in the Balkans up until his death in 2000.
		He was a bank robber and general criminal until the breakup of Yugoslavia when he decided to start a paramilitary group called the Serb Volunteer Guard that grew out of like football hooliganism.
		And he's an ambitious crime.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This was an international terrorist group that killed unknown numbers of people in Bosnia, Croatia, and Serbia.
		He was a thug, not a politician.
		So Milosevic didn't see Arkan as a threat to his power, but more as like a blunt instrument he could use to kill civilians.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who's not technically his own instrument, but somebody who's acting independently, quote unquote.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't threaten political power and can probably be crushed by state military power if need be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But for now, he's aimed at the right people.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is fucking insane for Alex to be talking about how we're all lied to about these warlords.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it is amazing the idea that you can.
		Because I don't subscribe to that concept of like, hey, listen, 95% of what they're telling you is wrong.
		But within the 5% that they told me was true, you have admitted was ethnic cleansing.
		Kicking people out of their homes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You interviewed yourself and copped to that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		So while I respect that lying is wrong, I don't care in regards to this one.
		You can't even have 5%.
		You can't have 2%.
		You can't have 2% ethnic cleansing.
		That's no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And let's pump the fucking brakes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These numbers are made up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These percentages are made the fuck up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even by your own ridiculous percentages, you are indicted.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		95% of the stuff that I accuse them of saying about these people is a lie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're lying about what other people are saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So what numbers are real here?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are tangled in a web of lies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And yeah.
		I mean, like, the numbers can't capture the substance.
		And I think that there is obviously a much larger political and historical picture that goes into the Balkans and the breakup of Yugoslavia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it can't be as simply told as like the Serbs were bad, the Bosniaks and the Croats were good or anything like that.
		And I don't want to give that impression.
		And I think it's possible to view the situation as more complex as one side versus another and still say like, yeah, Arkan was a fucking brutal warlord who killed civilians and is not deserving of your support.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to be somebody who's like against the Serb population to not look up to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's very easy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't think that Alex can get there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what it speaks to?
		It speaks to the power of that rhetorical trick.
		You know, that preemptive, did he kill some people?
		Yes.
		Was it for a bad reason?
		Of course.
		Did he murder my mom?
		Maybe.
		You know, like you can't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But whomst among us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's such a ridiculous rhetorical trick as it gets more insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think that it's why.
		Don't take it seriously.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't take any rhetorical tricks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear something like that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nah, let it go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex sucks, man.
unidentified		He really does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is bad.
		This is bad.
		So Caller calls in and asks him, hey, man, do you want to run?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to run for president?
unidentified		The thing I'm going to say to run for president.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm not going to run for president.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hi, guys, hi.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Number one, I'm not old enough to run for president.
		You have to be 35 to run for president.
		I'm 32 years of age.
		Number two, the presidency is totally bought for, bought off and controlled.
		60% of people came out in the last election to vote.
		But on average, about 8% come out to vote in local elections when the real power is local.
		So the presidency itself has turned into a diversion, a distraction.
		You can forget seizing control of that.
		You got to start at the lower level first.
		And no, I don't plan to ever run for political office.
		We're way past that point, trying to get control of committee chairmanships and trying to get control of the presidency.
		It's going to happen at the state level if it happens at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that tells you everything you need to know about the shift Alex made in the recent years.
		Previous to being recruited by Roger Stone, Alex didn't believe that it was possible to seize power on the national level.
		He knew that the ideas he pushed were things that he could usually make sound decent and long-winded, meandering rants, but when it was time to put them into law, no one would be interested.
		It's awesome to yell about freedom and how the man can't hold back the human spirit.
		But when you realize that what's behind that is a law making it so employers are free from responsibility for on-the-job injuries, your enthusiasm fades just a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a little different.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex likes to act like upholding the Constitution is the end-all-be-all of his philosophy.
		And part of that is the importance of states' rights over the federal government.
		But that's an act.
		In the real world, he just recognized that his ideology couldn't compete on the national level.
		Whereas there was a real chance that a very small number of zealots could change a local election.
		His shit was unpopular, but unpopular can work when turnout is low enough.
		When you hear a clip like this, there's a draw towards thinking, wow, Alex sure has changed.
		But I actually think that this is very compatible with his present-day ideology.
		It's not about whether the states or the federal government should be in charge.
		It's all about power and how it can be taken.
		At some point, Alex was convinced that a top-down seizure of power was possible, whereas before, he believed that it could only come bottom-up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He only could take the states and use that to control the federal government or to disempower it to the point where your states could do whatever they wanted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, I think that's such a great, how would I put it?
		Like, if you take a look at his words from those different time periods, right?
		You see different words.
		And if you think those different words mean anything, you're absurd.
		But that goal is what changed the words.
		That idea of this is what we do to create something small and then go from something big changed once he thought he could get something big and oppress something small.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just, it's not that the words meant anything in either situation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just that the goal changed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The goal was the same.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, the goal was to go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The goal was always taking power.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The tactics changed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What we thought the means to the goal was, or what he was pretending was the way we are going to achieve this thing.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what changed because that was all bullshit.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he because there is this sense that, like, wow, it's not, we're never going to be able to take over government.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're not going to get people into these positions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he had that, he'd given up on that.
		Yeah.
		There was an appearance and a preaching of like the only true way according to the Constitution is to go bottom up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that was bullshit.
		That was all fake.
		That's all ludicrous.
		It was all rationalization in service of the only way he felt his side and his extremism could get power.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Right.
		Every time we're asked, like, what does Alex really believe?
		You know, does he believe the shit he's saying?
		And it's like, you should get rid of the shit he's saying, and you should see, if this is what he believes is how to get power, he will say it.
		The end.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that that, you know, you can oversimplify.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can think that's oversimplified a little bit with, like, just ignore everything he's saying.
unidentified		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
		You should not discount everything, but you shouldn't take him as like you shouldn't.
		A liar isn't always lying.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But a liar is often lying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And yeah, and you can't trust somebody if they're a liar.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, we had another caller, and they want to know, hey, who's going to win this next election?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This 2008 election.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, we know that Alex should probably be head-on swivel about this Obama guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It seems like if God was talking to him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I guess it is 2006.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Obama's not like the biggest figure in the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Junior senator from Illinois.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But God talks to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God does the talking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he shouldn't need to have media coverage.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Who do either one of you, both of you, actually think is going to be our next president?
		And I'll listen.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've said I don't think the presidency matters.
		The globalists have got that bought and paid for it, and it's going to be their pony.
		They always, I mean, whether it's Hillary or whether it's some Republican, it doesn't matter.
		It's the same agenda, Jim.
unidentified		I think it's going to be Mark Warner, but I agree with you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it matters about it.
unidentified		Yes, what downsizeDC.org is all about is about going around the electoral process and focusing on putting the pressure on the people in office, making it mind-numbing and relentless.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a lot of people are saying it's going to be the governor of Virginia.
unidentified		Yeah, he's the most centrist and he's in the South, and I think he kind of follows the pattern of Clinton.
unidentified		I think the Democrats want him, and I think George Bush has really hurt the Republicans.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you.
		I agree with you.
		And he went to the Bilderberg last year, and he's going this year, we're told.
		And so that's, I mean, he'll be knighted right there, and he's sworn in by the Elsie Bob himself.
		So very, very serious situation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I guess it's very serious.
		I guess if you're anointed at Bilderberg, it doesn't really mean anything.
		Right?
		Because Mark Warner didn't president.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I guess it would mean more if you hadn't also run the country into a massive depression.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That one, the calculus changes on that one a little bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think Mark Warner is certainly Alex made a documentary about him later, The Warner Deception.
		Yeah, his predictions are always right.
		That's one thing we should.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why everybody calls him like, that's why he still gets talked is because he's called so much right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's so far ahead of the curve.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can say he's crazy, but now look at where we are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like a fox.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Genius.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's talking to this guy from an organization called Downsize DC.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is kind of funny in hindsight now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would describe them as a what this term got thrown around a bit during the during during the I guess this era paper terrorism.
unidentified		Okay.
Confusing Connections 00:03:21
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where he's explicitly saying he wants to make it mind-numbing to be in government.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're going to send it's not illegal to send letters, so we're going to send 10 million letters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every day, this guy's going to have to open each letter, and just the very fact that he's going to get so many paper cuts is going to make him listen to us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and he explicitly is saying, like, we set out to make it so their paper is jammed in the fax machines.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And like, just make it so government is impossible to function.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And like, that's the mentality they have in 2006 towards the federal government.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now they're mad if people blow whistles at ICE agents.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you know, the irony there is, of course, they are doing a better job at keeping the government from working by being in the government than by sending a lot of paper.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, there's workarounds, I think, to the paper stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a lot easier to get around that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can learn to deal with that nuisance, that annoyance.
		Yeah.
		Whereas them being in charge is just like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what I would listen?
		There are a lot of, there's a lot of shit, right?
		And it can't quite be solved by just, you know, talkabs and whatnot.
		But I would like it if more administrators in the Trump administration could just be like, we're really not that good at this.
		Like, we can do some stuff, but like, I don't know actuaries, man.
		I'm actually not that good at this.
		Like, I would just like that admission.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, can I tell you a secret?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No one knows what an actuary is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		See what I'm saying?
		Like, I would love it if they were like, honestly, this was a lot harder than I expected.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of this, I think it's magic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's so many numbers.
		Every time I ask a question, all these people use words at me.
		Terrified.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So the rest of this episode is kind of a dud.
		Kind of boring.
		But I think it's so critical.
		It's so important.
		And also, I've been sick.
		So I'm a little light on being able to pull myself up on my bootstraps.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is such a weird, random, coincidental thing to go back 20 years based on a number I just chose out of nowhere and discover that Alex is a Slowbo fan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if there's any possible way I could have predicted any of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, granted, it was a little collaboration in terms of the date, but I didn't choose this specifically for this at all.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a big old surprise.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I apologize for not giving you full credit on this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I chose 2006.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I rejected a couple of things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah, I could have rigged this.
		It was only a, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		I apologize.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's unnecessary.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't need, you don't need to defend Slobodan Milosevic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
		This is such a noxious position for him to have, I believe.
		And it's, it's, like I said on our last episode, it's not one that he keeps for a very long time.
		So kind of weird.
Fascinated Happenings 00:01:25
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm fascinated by like, what is what is going to happen here?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So fucking weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There are so few Slobodan Milosevic supporters then, now, before then.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, among like maybe Serb conventionalists.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But at the end, even there, not many people on his team.
		There were still some people, but at the end, there really weren't that many.
		Somehow at the end, Alex jumps on the bandwagon.
		The empty bandwagon of Slowbo fans.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I like when we are able to see something that's confusing and also somewhat maybe too relevant in the past.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so I'm appreciative for that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is a light that illuminates a confusion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And man, I'm going to keep digging at this thread.
		I'm going to see what I can learn.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think we have to find out all there is to know about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex's walk with Slowbow.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we'll check back in on that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But until then, we have a website.
unidentified		Indeed, we do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's KnowledgeFide.com.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll be back.
		But until then, I'm Neo.
		I'm Leo.
		I'm DZX Clark.
		I am the mysterious professor.
unidentified		Yeah, woo!
unidentified		Yeah, woo!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first-time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
		I love your work.

Chapters

00:00:16 Pikmin's Mundane Villain
00:06:01 Villains With Good Points
00:08:08 Slobo's Mass Graves Mystery
00:23:07 Revealing Moments in Alex's Career
00:38:46 Confusing Connections
00:42:07 Fascinated Happenings