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Jan. 23, 2026 - Knowledge Fight
02:13:20
#1111: January 7, 2026 Continued

In this installment, Dan and Jordan loop back to finish up Alex's show on the day that a federal agent killed a citizen, to see him hit the important topics like how hard it is to be white and how great RFK's new food pyramid is.

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 19:35
d
dan friesen
01:03:24
j
jordan holmes
32:08
r
robert barnes
05:34
Appearances
j
jacob frey
d 00:46
n
nick sortor
04:06
t
thomas sisca
infowars 03:57
Callers
andy in kansas
callers 00:01
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Speaker Time Text
My Bright Spot 00:05:18
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Johnson.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
unidentified
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
Sure, but before you ask that question.
Well, yeah.
What month is it?
jordan holmes
Oh, it's January.
dan friesen
Right.
Go ahead with your question.
jordan holmes
Do you know what that means?
dan friesen
What does that mean?
jordan holmes
It means that I'm probably going to have to do my bright spot first.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
That's the tradition.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Now that we've, now that we've done it multiple times, you'd think I would recognize the pattern.
And yet somehow.
dan friesen
You are slow to pick up on tradition.
jordan holmes
I'm slow to pick up on a lot of things.
unidentified
That's true.
dan friesen
So what is your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Daniel, is that...
dan friesen
I don't know if he's ever called me that.
jordan holmes
Well, it's a new tradition.
No, my bright spot is that I was rolling my back out this morning.
I know you know, everybody knows that I come from sports.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
I left my back there.
And what I have is a series of twigs with chicken wire.
And I work on my back like a half hour every morning.
And it is because my wife purchased multiple rollers and gadgets and shit.
dan friesen
See, that's what I was going to ask.
I was going to ask if you have different size rollers.
I sure do.
And then my follow-up was going to be, are they pointy, like a little bit pointy or are it smooth?
jordan holmes
I have three levels, my friend.
I do work and I am noticing results.
dan friesen
That's fantastic.
jordan holmes
It is really, really good.
And it is because of my wife and her mother that I am feeling better.
And so that is my bright spot.
dan friesen
That's great.
nick sortor
Yep.
dan friesen
You've maintained your wife guy status.
unidentified
You know what?
dan friesen
I think it's such a positive message, too, that people hear that you can make progress on that kind of chronic kind of painful stuff.
jordan holmes
It is like when I was doing physical therapy, back when we had reached the deductible, baby, the physical therapist used to just laugh whenever he started mucking about.
unidentified
Look at all these twists.
jordan holmes
I mean, it was like, this is a disaster area that really only he could know about because you can't see it.
And so, yeah.
dan friesen
Is it back from Hanover?
Because this is a pretzel.
jordan holmes
It's a mess.
dan friesen
Isn't that Snyder's?
jordan holmes
I think it is Snyder's.
dan friesen
Okay, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I think so.
dan friesen
Real unconfident in me joke.
jordan holmes
It was spoken and then almost retracted.
dan friesen
Yep.
Yep.
Let me.
I think people want to know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What's your favorite of the rollers?
jordan holmes
She got this, I want to say maybe like 14-inch diameter, and it's got like a tire rubber series of things around it, and it gets into each individual spot on your spine.
It kind of cradles it.
It works pretty well.
dan friesen
Sweet, man.
jordan holmes
Works pretty dang well.
dan friesen
That sounds great.
I know that every time that I've been at the gym and I've used one of those, I've been like, I got to get me one of these.
jordan holmes
Oh, whenever you, yeah, once you commit to it, it's a thing.
dan friesen
Nice.
jordan holmes
Dan, it is January.
dan friesen
That is true.
jordan holmes
Let me ask you.
dan friesen
It is the 23rd.
jordan holmes
It is the 23rd.
That's the date of January.
dan friesen
Yep, and that means that I have got to consult with my Haribo calendar.
But also, I didn't upload a new Sting.
So here's an old drop.
alex jones
So dreamy, creamy.
dan friesen
It's going to be a dreamy, creamy day over at Haribo Land.
jordan holmes
Do they have dreamy, creamy gummies?
dan friesen
Nope.
And this is the most boring of them all.
It is just, oh, it's soft gold bears.
It says SAFT.
jordan holmes
SAFT?
dan friesen
S-A-F-T.
Unless that means something else in German.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think it means soft.
jordan holmes
I mean, I would presume that on account of German being very similar to English, but who knows?
dan friesen
But then again, I would argue that none of the regular ones are not hard.
So that makes me think that maybe that means sour.
jordan holmes
I don't think there's any hard gummy.
dan friesen
Oh, there's some hard gummies.
unidentified
Wow.
That's fair.
dan friesen
Juji fruit.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Those are pretty hard.
jordan holmes
Those are serious.
dan friesen
All right.
So here's the part where I'm going to try this out, see how soft they are, and you're going to vamp.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good idea.
My vamp, I'm going to talk about, that's right, tennis, my man.
Last night, Stan Vivrinka, 40-year-old Stan Vivrinka, played a five-set match at the Australian Open and won in a fifth-set tiebreak.
It was fucking incredible.
I wish I could have watched the whole thing.
It couldn't have been better.
This is the man's last season.
He's ranked outside the top 100.
Got a wild card entry.
And my man, he won it.
He's into the third round.
The third round.
dan friesen
That's fantastic.
jordan holmes
It is fantastic.
dan friesen
God, congratulations to him.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That was not any softer than anything else that I've ever tried.
jordan holmes
Was it sour?
dan friesen
It's a little sour.
jordan holmes
It's a little sour.
dan friesen
I think I do note some sort of, but soft can't mean.
jordan holmes
It's a soft sour.
dan friesen
Man, it's a mess.
Say Hello to New Wonks 00:03:11
dan friesen
This segment is not taking off like the cheese.
jordan holmes
I will say.
dan friesen
I can feel it dying in the water.
jordan holmes
I think Haribo has failed you.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I think you made a mistake of thinking we could ease into it.
You got a hardcore press on the gas with novelty.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
You got to go crazy.
dan friesen
And I thought they'd deliver and they did not.
jordan holmes
They did not.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
And I realized that this was episode 1111.
Is it?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's 11-11.
dan friesen
11-11.
And in honor of that one-time, once-in-a-lifetime number, I decided that we're going to talk about January 7th again.
The rest of the.
jordan holmes
The secret of 17?
dan friesen
Yeah, no, the rest of the day when I shot that.
jordan holmes
I got you.
I got you.
dan friesen
So we're going to do that here in a moment.
But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, the people who yearn for Mads Mickelson and Hugh Dancy to reunite to play Dracula and Jonathan Harker.
Thank you so much, Jeremiah Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Barack Obama.
No, Beyonce, not even close.
That's right.
Santa Claus.
Thank you so much, Jernia Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
It's Somali, not Somalians.
Thank you so much, Jeremiah Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we got a technocrat next, Jordan.
So thank you so much, too.
I was once a wonk, but took Jordan's advice and put my money in a bear fund.
I've seen the error of my ways, and I am back as a technocrat, a Canadian dollar technocrat for what it's worth.
If I could have my Jordan thank you very much in a Larry Nichols voice, I'd truly appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Go home to your mother.
Someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Sharp.
Bomb, Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I was debating in my head whether you were going to mention Rice.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was wondering if your impression would immediately involve Rice.
jordan holmes
You know, before I did it, I was trying to find the, you know, there's the word for a lot of people with impressions, you got that entry word.
I was trying to find it through witches, but I couldn't.
I couldn't get there.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It was brutal.
dan friesen
He's a mysterious guy with a very simple voice.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Was.
robert barnes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, like I said, we are going to finish up the seventh.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's never been, never been done before, necessarily, that we have split things in such a way.
But I did, I wanted to end on the note of the juxtaposition between Alex and Robert Barnes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the way that they were dealing with having just seen this video of someone get shot.
Yeah.
And how Barnes was mildly disgusted and like, I don't know about this.
Homeland Security Press Release 00:07:20
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Whereas Alex was charging headlong into whatever this is, we've got to spin it.
And I think that that is an important image to hold.
And I wanted to live in it for a while.
Sure.
But that said, the rest of the day is also still important.
Yeah.
So we are going to pick that up here.
And Robert Barnes is actually still in the studio.
Oh, God.
And that's right.
jordan holmes
He's in studio.
dan friesen
Well, no, I'm sorry.
He's not in studio.
He's on the show.
Right, right, right.
He's on Zoom with a silly little cap on.
He looks like an asshole.
But immediately, he starts going off into the weeds of like, oh, this is trans people and Antifa.
Trantifa did this.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
He wrote that one before.
dan friesen
Oh, and he said it about a hundred times.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't be surprised.
robert barnes
Anybody who doesn't know what gender they are is someone who you can easily brainwash.
And that makes them a particularly.
If you were brainstorming, who is the group that we could get to be Manchurian candidate murderers and assassins and disruptors and instigators and all the rest, trans would be at the top of the world.
alex jones
They're willing to murder their own identity.
They're willing to do this.
By the way, I've watched the photos like 10 times now.
It's not the first cop that she almost runs over.
There's one that's even more in front who barely jumps out of the way.
And then you can see he's the one that shoots.
And you can say, under the adrenaline, under the he barely, I mean, boom, that car.
I mean, he still jumps back and then instinctively pulls and fires, which these guys are trying to do, or you're dead.
You know, big iron on his hip.
It's all about instinctive shooting, you're dead.
And you can see it right there.
He jumps, barely jumps out of the way, and instinctively, because there's more people up ahead that she's about to hit, and he does.
I think it's a clean shoot right there.
Tried to kill him with a deadly weapon.
What are you supposed to do?
dan friesen
It's a clean shoot.
Alex has come around quite quickly.
jordan holmes
That was, I mean, that isn't, isn't that something similar to what people would say on a duck hunt?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
It was a clean shoot.
dan friesen
Yep.
If you're in a deer blind, maybe you clean shot.
jordan holmes
So that probably makes him a gigantic piece of shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I think it is notable of like his, like, this is just where we're going.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He knows.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Sight unseen.
He doesn't need to see any of the information that's being presented.
That's what he's going to end up at.
jordan holmes
Information is going to get in the way of him doing his job.
dan friesen
If anything.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So they come back, and Alex has a little press release from the Department of Homeland Security.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Isn't that weird?
jordan holmes
You can't have a press release from the DHS.
dan friesen
It's definitely not something you need to question or think about.
alex jones
Fuck me.
So this just came out from Homeland Security, a press release.
Today, ICE officers in Minneapolis were conducting targeted operations when rioters began blocking ICE officers.
You've seen all the video of that.
And one of these violent riders weaponized her vehicle.
Let me run over our law enforcement officers and attempt to kill them.
An act of domestic terrorism.
An ICE officer fearing for his life, the lives of his fellow law enforcement and Pacific Public fired defensive shots.
He used his training and saved his own life and that of his fellow officers.
The alleged perpetrator was hit and is deceased.
The ICE officers who were hurt are expected to make full recoveries.
This is a direct consequence of the constant attacks and demonization of our officers by sanctuary politicians who fuel and encourage rampant assaults or law enforcement and who are facing 1,300% increase in assaults against them and an 8,000% increase in death threats.
This is an evolving situation.
We will give the public more information as soon as it becomes available.
Whether it's foreign policy or domestically, Trump's told them, do your job.
We'll back you.
The gloves are off.
I think the left going with the Podesta plan and one battle after another, I don't think this is going to end well for them.
dan friesen
Just reflect on this for a second.
Alex is unquestioningly and supportively reading a press release from the Department of Homeland Security on his show.
The DHS didn't even exist before Bush created it after 9-11, and it's an organization that Alex has been very vocally opposed to over the years.
And not just opposed to their actions, he's opposed to them existing.
If you listened to Alex's show before Trump Times, you would think of the Department of Homeland Security as the enemy.
It was created by Bush and his cronies in order to consolidate power after 9-11 and was the face of the Patriot Act.
It absorbed the responsibilities of other government agencies to streamline executive power, which used to be bad.
The whole idea of Alex's show is that centralized federal government power has to be fought because once it grows to a certain point, you can't fight it anymore.
The DHS was an embodiment of centralized governmental power, which Alex is supposed to be fundamentally opposed to, regardless of what costume that power is wearing.
He was super clear over the course of his career that people seeking to consolidate power want to scare you into letting them take that power.
They created the Department of Homeland Security and passed the Patriot Act based on the fear that you felt about terrorism after 9-11.
The globalists stoked your fears because the more scared you were, the easy it would be for them to justify doing things that the public would never have accepted before.
They could spy on citizens and demographically target Muslims, and their justification would always be that it was to make sure there wasn't another 9-11.
But those police measures were meant to be used against you.
They weren't trying to gain all this power to fight al-Qaeda.
That was the public excuse.
But in the real world, all of this was meant for you.
It was meant to create a prison planet that you were going to live in.
They played on the fear and Islamophobia that ran rampant in the early 2000s, and Alex was begging you to see through it.
That was his whole thing.
This is a point that I cannot make strongly or frequently enough.
Alex's change is not superficial.
It's not something that can be retconned, and it's not something that can be rationalized.
Alex is reading a press release put out by the Department of Homeland Security and demanding that his audience accept that they can kill citizens if they feel threatened.
The audience probably feels a little uncomfortable with that, so it's important to understand that the DHS is fighting something very scary, even scarier than terrorism was in 2002.
It's super normal to change positions on certain topics over time.
People grow up, circumstances change, and sometimes we just learn that the thing that we thought would work doesn't work.
I'll never judge somebody for changing their mind, even if I don't agree with the conclusion that they may come to, which is why it's important to be super clear about what Alex is doing.
He isn't changing his mind.
He's acting exactly like the bad guys he always imagined he was fighting against did.
He never had a problem with the police state and all that shit.
He just never wanted to get hit with a baton.
This is all he's just showing his ass.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I want to look like a revolutionary without any possibility of consequence.
I want to look like I'm fighting the good fight without ever having to fight.
Alex's Ambitions 00:15:27
jordan holmes
And I also want to get fucking rich.
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I don't know.
I've been wrestling with that.
I think that Alex definitely wants to be rich, but he wants people to like him more.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, he wants one guy named David Jones to watch him.
jordan holmes
That's probably the best way of putting it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, you know, that brings up what John Hamm screaming, that's what the money's for.
You know, like that kind of idea.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yep.
Poor guy.
robert barnes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What a piece of shit, though, really.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it sucks to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that this weird, insane psychopath is tortured and miserable, but it doesn't make any difference.
He's a piece of shit who is torturing and making other people miserable.
dan friesen
So Robert Barnes, although initially reluctant to say self-defense and that kind of shit, is coming around.
jordan holmes
Sure.
robert barnes
Yeah, it does look to me like a self-defense case that he had reasonable fear for his safety.
I think there'll be probably some misleading video footage.
I'm sure there'll be some AI fakes forthcoming.
So, you know, people make sure you're alert for that.
You get the original material.
But it looks to me like the, and I think what will mislead some people is it appears to veer like it's going in a different direction than at the officer, but I believe that only happens after he shoots.
And so the driver is then dead.
And that's what causes Go to swerve back.
But you notice when it's first coming out, it looks like it's heading right to the officer who appears to be the one who pulled his gun and defended himself.
alex jones
Lightning fast reflexes because as soon as you hear the first pop, then it jerks and turns.
robert barnes
Exactly.
Correct.
I mean, yeah, because you look at where that angle is, and that's the key.
It's going off towards him.
And then it leans back.
dan friesen
If you understand what's going on here, Barnes and Alex are trying to find plausible ways to argue in favor of the ICE agent shooting a U.S. citizen.
They're not particularly interested in facts, but just want to find something that's good enough for now.
Barnes comes up with the idea that the victim's wheels only turned from the officer after the first shot, which is not true.
Her car would need to be going straight and to the left in order to ever make contact with the officer, but video from before she was shot clearly shows her turning her wheel to the right when she was alive.
Previously, the front tires had been pointed left because she was in reverse, angling her car to drive away to the right away from the officer who shot her.
It's important to understand that even though we ended the last episode with Barnes expressing a certain amount of discomfort with seeing the video of the shooting, he gets over it pretty quick and he gets on message.
They are Trump Media Surrogates, and the DHS has put out their press release that it was a good shooting, so now it's their job to sell it.
It doesn't matter how they do it, and no one cares if they lie.
All that matters is the narrative, and they're going to prop it up.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yeah, I mean, I would hope, personally, and I'm not going to judge anybody's number for what it is, but I would hope it would be like several hundred seconds after I saw a person get murdered where I'd be like, eh, she probably had it coming.
You know, I would want some more distance between when I had stopped watching somebody get murdered and when I had suddenly decided that they weren't being murdered.
dan friesen
Yeah, and if you're in Barnes' situation, like, why don't you hang up?
robert barnes
Totally.
dan friesen
I don't want to be here.
I don't want to be on your show during the day.
unidentified
Oh, I got to go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Holy shit, that was fucked up.
I don't want to talk about this.
I don't know anything about this.
jordan holmes
Anything.
Reason to not be doing anything other than saying, that's a murder.
dan friesen
Or even, like, it's so weird to feel like you've got to, like, we'll got to spend this one, baby.
You don't have to say anything.
jordan holmes
You don't.
You can just not do it.
dan friesen
It's wild.
jordan holmes
It is wild.
dan friesen
So, Barnes and Alex are like, hey, man, what was she doing before this video started?
Maybe she made them shoot her or something.
jordan holmes
Probably.
robert barnes
And the way it looks to me, the way she's now accelerating, but it looks to me like she was trying to turn the driver was trying to run him over.
By the way, in fact, the vehicle isn't going in a straight direction.
It initially is coming out and appears to be going left, right at where he is.
alex jones
And you notice he jumps back while firing his gun at the same time.
He would have been hit.
robert barnes
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And it appears that was her intention.
As if you're his position.
Yeah, you see how it missed that little left turn right when it started to go.
Exactly.
I mean, that tells me that she was not only hitting the gas, but she was turning to run him over.
So because I'm sure that the media, the left, the rest are going to pretend that she was just trying to drive out of there.
But that is not by that first direction of the vehicle making that quick left turn in a left direction.
That means she was trying to murder him.
And if you're in his position, that's exactly what you see.
You don't only see, and I think the voice that's right before then is get out of the vehicle, you know, pull back.
So they're not expecting her to be driving it at all.
They're expecting vehicle off, she getting out of the vehicle, and insulting.
It's pretty clear.
alex jones
They're ramming.
They're already attacking vehicles, blocking them, hitting them.
They're not even going after those people.
What had she done to them to be saying, get out?
What has she done before that?
robert barnes
Correct, exactly.
And the, I mean, clearly someone that's being very disruptive.
dan friesen
So there are two main playbooks Alex can use with people, depending on whether or not he wants to demonize them.
If he's invested in making the audience not care about them, he does what you see here.
A main feature of this treatment and one of the ways that he's able to paint people in a negative light to the audience is through insinuation and appearing very curious.
He has lots of questions like, what did this woman do to make I shoot her?
He asks these questions as a way of pretending that there's an answer that would make this situation okay, and your brain should just fill in the blanks.
Whatever would justify this is what happened before.
In a moment like this, it's important to recognize how severe the editorial slant is for Alex and Barnes.
Whether or not they're on anyone's payroll, they're mouthpieces of the state.
And not even for a second did Alex consider reporting this as an inappropriate shooting carried out by a federal agent against a U.S. citizen.
From the second he heard the news, the only question has been, how can we make this her fault in a way that the audience will accept?
And Barnes has fully come on board with that in a matter of a couple minutes.
jordan holmes
It is astonishing.
It is astonishing to watch because when you remember that we are of the great ape family, right?
And then you think, well, let's just pull back a couple layers of DNA.
Imagine a macaque trying to convince other monkeys, like, no, no, no, no, don't worry about it.
There's no alligators in the lake.
That's crazy.
We would never imagine that.
That would be ridiculous.
And yet here we are, a man being like, don't, no, no, no, no, don't worry about it.
unidentified
That giant predator, he's your friend.
dan friesen
So Robert Barnes and Alex, they're just sitting around.
They're like, hey, man, dangerous situation.
Sure, you know?
jordan holmes
Hey, what are you going to do?
dan friesen
What are you going to do?
jordan holmes
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
Cops get scared and they shoot people.
jordan holmes
That'll happen.
unidentified
That'll happen.
alex jones
What?
Stop right there.
I don't know if we haven't bleeped again.
Back it up to the beginning here.
Bleep that guys.
jordan holmes
Because that's what's wrong with this video.
alex jones
Situation.
You bring in 30 million illegals, 25, whatever, 40 million under Obama total.
Fucking get it all together from Obama to now.
And all the human driving, the murder, the death, all the highway chases every day.
You create this.
It's the law.
You send people to do their job.
You come attacked them, create the hysteria.
I'm surprised there hasn't been more of this already.
Barnes, I've been doing that.
robert barnes
This is the Somali community.
I mean, you've detailed that, isn't it?
This is Black Hawk Down.
These are people that lost the Civil War.
No, America unfortunately helped sponsor that Civil War because God bless us, but we can't seem to help ourselves.
But the we're still bombing Somalia.
We've been bombing him since 1989.
It's like New Year.
Ah, hilarious.
But the kind, like Elon Omar's father, a lot of these people are some of the nastiest people.
And the CIA brought these.
alex jones
He was the top general that killed 200,000 people in a genocide.
When they overthrew him, she ran here with him.
And then she lectures us on regime change.
robert barnes
Yeah, exactly.
These are some of the nastiest, meanest, most vicious people in the world.
dan friesen
So if Alex believes that this is an appropriate way to handle law enforcement, it seems like he really doesn't have much of a leg to stand on if he ever wants to criticize cops shooting people.
This really matters because Alex's ideology is very much rooted in the two events of Ruby Ridge and Waco.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
These are incidents where the federal government overstepped and took actions that killed American citizens, and the extreme right wing was galvanized around how offensive it was that they did that.
If you're somebody who really cared about Ruby Ridge and Waco, you couldn't see ICE shooting a person in a car and not feel the same kind of revulsion.
Alex can say that ICE is there carrying out legal orders and that the victim in this case was impeding them, but you could say the same thing about the Weavers or the Branch Davidians.
If the complaint Alex had was ever that federal law enforcement was oppressing and killing U.S. citizens, then he would be required to treat this situation the same way.
And this is where the critical point comes up.
Alex never cared about federal law enforcement killing U.S. citizens.
Randy Weaver was connected with the Aryan nations, and the Branch Davidians were an extremist end times religious cult.
The problem for Alex is that he likes racists and pseudo-Christian fundamentalists, but that's also a really unpopular message, so he packaged his shit the way he did.
If Alex ever cared about federal law enforcement killing citizens, then he would have a different response now.
There are a lot of situations that are pretty complex, but this is pretty fucking simple.
The way he's responding to this incident reveals that he never believed any of this shit to begin with, and this is all an act.
jordan holmes
No.
No, their whole justification for the fucking OKC bombing is that it doesn't matter because the government needs to feel the response from what they did at Waco, right?
Like to be here now with those people is fucking ridiculous.
Yeah.
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's inappropriate.
jordan holmes
It requires a time machine and a mirror to like show people what they'll be before we fucking break their kneecaps or some shit.
You know?
Like that's what a time machine is about.
dan friesen
Yeah, I wish there was a way to break someone's kneecaps politically.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, in a time machine situation, you won't get caught.
dan friesen
Break their kneecaps with irony.
Like spiritually break their kneecaps.
jordan holmes
I've seen it done before.
dan friesen
So this was fun.
They start talking about a different subject.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And it's something that- Smart move.
Yeah.
Well, not really, because Barnes ends up shitting all over some of Alex's past guests.
alex jones
What is your view on where this is all going?
The ties into Greenland, ties into Iran about to fall, all these major moves happening.
robert barnes
Yeah, I think, I mean, the key is to be wary of the risks and the downside.
And my concern is that some members of the administration are being misled.
So I think they've been misled by that there's a corrupt former general who got who joined Guido in Arguiato, how I want to pronounce his name back in 2019, who got expelled, got arrested, indicted, imprisoned by first the Biden administration, then the Trump administration.
And he's been pitching all kinds of stories about how he can unravel the 2020 election and all this other stuff.
He's a complete lying fraudster.
alex jones
So my concern is if the Trump administration is irrational exuberance and Trump thinking just because his snatching grab went well, that he should then go into.
Because he's talking about Cuba, Colombia.
I'm definitely against that.
dan friesen
Oh, why?
You're for it yesterday.
jordan holmes
Why?
What?
dan friesen
So that guy that Barnes is talking about is Hugo Carvajal, the guy who wrote a letter to Trump saying that he could spill the beans on the Chavez and Feduro regime.
nick sortor
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's interesting that Barnes is calling him a lying fraud, and Alex isn't challenging that because mere days before this episode, Alex was interviewing Patrick Byrne on his show about how Byrne was pretending to have convinced Carvajal to flip on the deep state.
If we're supposed to take Barnes seriously, then Carvajal is a fraud, and it stands to reason that Patrick Byrne is a fraud.
General Flynn is supposed to be mixed up in Carvajal coming forward, too.
So I guess he's pushing the same hoax.
And Trump mysteriously posted on Truth Social that Alex should talk to Patrick Byrne about the truth about Venezuela.
So Trump must be pushing this fraud hoax too.
Or you could believe that Carvajal is the real deal and the Byrne Flynn team are on the right side of this thing.
If that's the case, then why is Barnes attacking them like this?
If those dudes are legit and Barnes is trying to call them a fraud, kind of makes him look like a globalist.
jordan holmes
Does.
dan friesen
Alex sidesteps these hard questions by just pretending to not understand what Barnes is talking about and moving on so the audience doesn't realize how his show is trying to sell them contradictory stories about the overthrow of a federal foreign government.
Also, why is Alex against overthrowing Cuba and Colombia?
jordan holmes
That's what I was wondering.
dan friesen
The Monroe Doctrine and Manifest Destiny 2.0 demand that Trump keep the homeland safe.
There's no coherent ideology at work here anymore.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Makes no sense.
jordan holmes
I mean, in this, if we're dealing with what he is saying about how it's okay to colonize people again, essentially we're just talking about pushing a sphere of power further and further away from our borders, which is going to swallow up everybody sooner or later.
So fucking get Cuba now.
Right.
I'll take a Cuba.
dan friesen
Half of the argument that Marco Rubio was making about why they had to overthrow Maduro is because he was being run by Cuba.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
Why would you be against?
dan friesen
Alex, it just makes no sense.
jordan holmes
It is amazing that you can have fundamentally incompatible positions and just ignore it.
Like it's, we've reached a new level of cognitive dissonance where it's like, why would I even bother dealing with it?
They can be contradictory.
I don't give a shit.
dan friesen
Now, Barnes is right 99% of the time, and Patrick Byrne is right 99% of the time.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Calm down.
jordan holmes
So they're both always right.
Even though they disagree.
dan friesen
So now I think that Barnes is actually kind of right in this next clip.
And that he's describing Trump's actions like he's a dumb criminal.
robert barnes
The issue isn't so much I don't think Trump has any appetite and recognizes the high risk of trying to go in and actually even though he's talking big about boots on the ground.
alex jones
I think he knows that we can easily topple a regime, but we can't occupy it.
That's totally different.
robert barnes
Exactly.
It's what he's been pointing out for 20 years.
There's all this risk.
And they're like the people that are people tell me, hey, Barnes, criminals have low IQ.
And I'm like, no, no, caught criminals have low IQ.
So the people that you're measuring the IQ of are people actually inmates.
Candace and YouTube Conspiracies 00:10:07
robert barnes
And the reason is they're only one-step thinkers, as we've talked about before.
In other words, they're people that, oh, I like the purse.
I'll steal it.
Oh, how do I get away with it?
They don't think about step two.
And God bless them, but our CIA never thinks about step two.
And I'm getting strong vibes.
jordan holmes
Why does God bless them?
robert barnes
They're not talking about step two again.
And that they're lying to the president about how easy it will be, about how successful it will be.
And they're using the success like they always do of the very first step.
You know, when we first go in, they are smart.
alex jones
They're setting Trump up.
robert barnes
Exactly.
That's the big.
I think they see it as win-win.
dan friesen
It's interesting that this is where Barnes' mind goes when he's talking about Trump's actions in Venezuela.
It's a crime.
Trump committed a crime.
So Barnes and Alex are just worried that he doesn't have a getaway plan.
jordan holmes
That is the main thing.
dan friesen
But he's not thought about the next step after you smash and grab.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's not so much that he's a criminal, it's that he's a dumb criminal.
dan friesen
I don't have a problem with crime if you get away with it.
jordan holmes
I mean, I suppose that is kind of the operating philosophy of America at this point.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
But it's pretty blatant.
And I don't know if they can hear what they're saying anymore.
And I don't think they care.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How could they?
How could they on any front, right?
How could you begin to care if you're saying shit like that?
Like the closest they came to care was feeling uncomfortable for 15 seconds while watching a murder.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then they were back on board.
dan friesen
And they were so much more scandalized by a football player taking the knee.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
Can you imagine somebody taking a knee?
unidentified
Fuck.
dan friesen
Oh, so much more dangerous than shooting someone.
jordan holmes
Can't believe they didn't shoot him.
dan friesen
So Alex is engaged in a long, protracted feud right now with Candace Owens.
Sure.
And he's just sniping at her.
He does not like this lady.
unidentified
Good for them.
alex jones
And I'm not glazing Barnes.
I can call Barnes up, and he's not been watching my show, and I've been watching his, though we both watched some a little bit.
And I can say, hey, this is what I'm thinking.
What do you think?
And he'll finish my sentence, just like I can do with General Flynn or so many others, because we've got the grasp of the depth of the knowledge.
And we're here trying to get other people to understand how that works because we're not trying to give you fish.
We're trying to teach you how to fish.
And look, I know a lot of you are smarter than I am in many ways.
I'm not up here.
We're talking about the public that doesn't know.
And now, just because we've had this global awakening, we're being lied to, there are a lot of newbies that don't really have depth and they just kind of come up with real conspiracy theories that have no basis in reality.
Or little factoids that don't matter that they build whole things around.
I need to stop talking about Candace Owens.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
Also, I would love to offer Robert Barnes a show that he and I could do together called Glazing Barnes.
jordan holmes
Ah, Glazing Barnes.
dan friesen
Where I compliment him very disingenuously while we cook a bird.
You know, we glaze a ham.
jordan holmes
You know what I would also go with?
I would also accept Raising Barnes, wherein you compliment him and put up Barnes.
dan friesen
Here's another option.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Raisin Barnes.
Oh, where I compliment him disingenuously while throwing raisins at him.
jordan holmes
All right.
I like that.
All right.
How about Crazen Barnes, where we put him in one of those crazin Apple commercials and then just have him underneath all that water?
dan friesen
It's the only way to go.
So Alex is a real, he just wants to complain to Barnes about Candace because he gets it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, he's cool.
He's not like Candace.
Candace sucks.
jordan holmes
Candace is bullshit.
I mean, sure, she's exactly the same as the rest of us.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
robert barnes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But a little different in a way that is kind of dangerous.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so Barnes is like, yeah, man, she's probably deep state.
unidentified
Probably.
dan friesen
She's still on YouTube.
jordan holmes
Totally.
robert barnes
The best way to sum up.
I tell people, look, if the deep state was really scared of Candace's theory, she wouldn't be getting promoted on YouTube.
One person is still banned on YouTube.
It's Alex Jones.
One person is getting promoted in the algorithms like mad on Google's YouTube.
alex jones
And that was my point.
I'm not trying to attack Candace.
I have a responsibility to tell the truth.
When I said I have to do this, they all spun and said, oh, he's being told to it.
No, I have to because I neurotically, even when people see this, where I like tell the truth and stuff, though, even though it hurts me, I can't help it.
I'm not stupid.
And now I've talked to the internet experts, seen the numbers.
Nobody's had bot push like her.
Nobody's pushed on the algorithm on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube.
I told the story a few months ago during the eight months ago during the confirmation of Kennedy.
The week he's about to be confirmed, she comes out with Eddie Mercury guy, and they do these shows, and they literally say, Oh, this woman might be Mossad.
He might have given her a card.
No evidence.
He might be in Epstein.
We're about to release it all.
And I went on a hike with my Navy Shield buddy and his buddy.
We all get out of the car that morning and, like, literally my phone, all their phones are being pushed this.
Like, I've never seen before.
So we all hike two hours listening to it.
There's no information.
And I'm like, man, is she an operative?
This sounds like she's trying to take down Kennedy.
I said, I need to look at her.
And I kind of just moved on.
So my main thing's not infighting or focusing on their host.
You know, I'm in raw data.
But you look at that and so much more she does.
I don't know if she's doing it consciously or she's being handled, but I mean, it's right there, people.
I'm banned on YouTube.
I'm banned on Instagram, Facebook.
She is literally force-fed, and all the liberal shows love her.
All the top Democrats are attacking me for attacking her.
dan friesen
I should, I feel like I should clarify this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The liberals don't love her.
jordan holmes
Oh, they don't?
dan friesen
No one on the left cares about Alex shitting on Candace Owens about Charlie Kirk's killing.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
People think it's funny that these two people who clearly don't believe anything they're saying are fighting with each other for attention.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's hilarious.
jordan holmes
About nothing.
dan friesen
Yes.
Alex doesn't really care about what Candace says or does, as evidenced by him deciding that she was maybe with the deep state when she attacked RFK, and then he just decided to ignore it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
Even if she was a deep state agent in the Trump dipshit media, it didn't really matter to Alex because she wasn't interfering with his game.
As it stands now, she's kind of a threat to Alex's game because she's the embodiment of what he used to be.
Alex sees himself as the Rush Limbaugh of the new Trump New World Order, where he and the people aligned with him are the voice of state power.
What's good for Trump is good for America.
So Alex will always promote Trump's best interests and tell you that it's all about what's best for you.
Conversely, Candace is insane.
She's given up on the need to be associated with the power structure and decided to just be as inflammatory as possible.
From getting sued by the Macrons to blaming Erica Kirk and turning point leaders for being involved in Charlie's death to doing sympathetic jailhouse interviews with Harvey Weinstein about how he's the victim of feminism.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
She has done multiple jailhouse interviews with Harvey Weinstein.
jordan holmes
All right.
Looks like we got a new Captain Mark Richards coming up.
dan friesen
It's crazy.
Like, I had not really realized that was something that she was on.
I was flipping through her YouTube channel because Barnes is like, she's still on YouTube.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was like, what the fuck is this Harvey Weinstein?
jordan holmes
That is fucking.
dan friesen
He's sitting there in prison talking to her on video and everything.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
It's insane.
jordan holmes
What isn't allowable anymore?
dan friesen
It's feminism.
jordan holmes
I want lines.
I want very clear delineations of where it is people are allowed to go because I didn't know you were allowed to do that shit.
dan friesen
I'm so sorry they're doing this to you, Harvey.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
How?
People can do weird shit.
dan friesen
So Candace was always a conspiracy-minded dipshit, and she's decided that the path of her career involves staying inside that mentality.
Trump isn't some crusading hero from heaven who's going to slay the deep state.
They still exist, and they're totally probably the Jews.
But also, she never said that, and it's offensive that anyone would ever suggest that she did.
How dare I?
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Alex values his ability to appear close to power.
So he's given up the fullness of his conspiracy world.
It would be silly to pretend that the globalists are all powerful at this point.
So Alex has had to shrink the whole thing.
And to a conspiracy mind, that shrinking of scope looks a lot like someone saying, don't look over there.
That's how Candace's audience is likely to see Alex, particularly now that they're clearly in a feud with each other.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex has the same problem with someone like Nick Fuentes, but the calculation is different there.
Alex is certain that Nick is a white supremacist, and he also knows that Nick's audience is full of irony-poisoned cynical Nazis who see him as a net positive.
He can be pretty sure that Nick's audience doesn't pose any threat to him as long as he's racist enough, and that's no problem.
Conversely, he can't be really sure that Candace won't burn him just to put it on her resume.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, she is chaotic in a way.
jordan holmes
It would be fun.
dan friesen
Yeah, like he can't trust that she's willing to play the game.
Yeah.
And even though Nick is not willing to play a lot of the game, he's clearly not like invested in destroying Alex because he could have by now very easily.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the more you engage with her in a way that allows her to push a little bit further, what you're actually doing is teaching her more powers in a way.
You know, like, oh, you can do this.
You can get away with this.
You can get away with this.
By fighting with her, you're only making her stronger.
dan friesen
And I think Alex would probably, like, he knows her in as much as, like, she started on his show back when she was red pill black.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And, like, you know, like, so they, like, they have a history together.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Norm was her lawyer back when she was younger.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
And so, like, there is a fair amount of awareness of the two.
Delta Force Debacles 00:08:13
dan friesen
And I think Alex knows that if he tried to, like, talk shit or talk shop with her, that she might record him.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Like, I don't, I think he knows that she's savvy enough that, like, don't even go anywhere near.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, at the very least, any connection, any touch will be something she's planned, and it will be sharper on her side than it will be on his side.
robert barnes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Barnes is, you know, he's a little bit iffy on Venezuela.
Sure.
But he does think that Delta Force should break people out of U.S. prisons.
jordan holmes
Is that real?
robert barnes
I mean, I think one thing that some conservatives were like, you know, it's great.
Okay, we go down and get Maduro.
Why can't we go and get Tina Peters?
You know, the, I mean, I mean, isn't the federal government in the Delta Force to Colorado?
unidentified
Exactly.
robert barnes
Why not?
I mean, they're a bunch of commies anyway.
alex jones
Hey, it's a woman's protection program.
unidentified
It is.
robert barnes
It's what I've been telling him for forever.
That she is a witness about federal election fraud.
She is, they can use the rid of habeas corpus to go to federal court to get it, but they haven't done it because Todd Blanche keeps stonewalling him, keeps derailing him.
He keeps sabotaging him because he wants to be liked by the New York Times crowd.
Pay him a job.
alex jones
That goes back to Trump again.
He has this blind spot for like Millie and Barr.
Why is Blanche still there?
robert barnes
He confuses personal loyalty with loyalty to the policies and goals and ideas of MEGA.
That's problem number one.
dan friesen
This is very cute, but you don't have to be delusional to think that Trump is confused about personal loyalty versus loyalty to an ideology.
Trump has been crystal clear that personal loyalty is all he cares about.
And if Barnes is confused, that's his fault.
jordan holmes
That would be, if he's confused, he's maybe the dumbest person on earth.
robert barnes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And his hat is pretty dumb.
Tina Peters is in jail for granting unauthorized access to voting machine information to a bunch of QAnon dipshits who went on to post it on message boards, which is a gigantic breach of sensitive data that also didn't prove any voter fraud.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is that.
dan friesen
She was convicted by a jury on four felony counts and is serving a nine-year sentence.
Trump would have already pardoned her, but these are state charges.
jordan holmes
Ooh, yeah.
I mean, that would, yeah, that's pretty much the only thing.
dan friesen
I understand that there's a slight levity to this exchange that they're having, but this isn't an idea that can be floated on InfoWars in jest in the past.
It's just ridiculous.
These are the fingerprints of how far off the rails this thing is.
That they can just be like, Yeah, let's send in the Delta Force to get a person out of a state prison because Trump can't pardon them.
jordan holmes
There is no more fundamental betrayal of the concept of states' rights than, like, well, we can keep them here.
You know, like if your level of sovereignty is such that the federal government can just go in and grab whomever they want from wherever they want, then you do not have rights.
dan friesen
Yeah, the state, the state laws don't exist.
Yeah, they can't be enforced.
jordan holmes
They are meaningless.
unidentified
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
Cool.
Well, so fuck Barnes.
He leaves disgraced, like the hat that's on his stupid head.
jordan holmes
I definitely don't think he's a great law person.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
No.
I don't think he knows what he's doing.
dan friesen
But I bet he can make a mean glaze.
jordan holmes
I bet he can.
dan friesen
I bet.
That's one of my disingenuous compliments.
So he leaves, and we got another guest come in.
And this guy is on the ground in Minneapolis.
This is a guy named Nick Sortor.
alex jones
Nick Shortor, incredible job with all the work you're doing, obviously.
So proud of the work you're doing.
Tell us the latest from your DHS sources and on the ground, what's happening?
nick sortor
This is chaos, man.
It's absolute chaos out here.
And it's getting worse by the minute, really.
I mean, I planned on doing your show live from the scene, but it's just way too unsafe for me out there.
And so I drove away, and now I'm sitting here doing this in the car.
And Alex, the mayor out here, the soy boy mayor who panders to the Somalis and the illegals out here, he is trying to start a riot.
He is trying to start a riot.
jordan holmes
Wait.
nick sortor
And Governor Waltz would love to see a riot out here as well because it's the only way they're going to be able to distract from all of the rampant fraud that's going on out here.
So that is part of the plan.
Spark this up, set the city on fire because people will start talking about that instead of the rampant Somali fraud that they're all involved in.
dan friesen
I gotta say, I like his voice in that it's a shit voice, but it's distinctive.
jordan holmes
It's a little, everybody loves Raymond D. You bet.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's a little Romano.
jordan holmes
There is a little Romano in there.
nick sortor
Barra.
dan friesen
I want him to say Debra.
Isn't that his wife?
unidentified
Something like that.
dan friesen
I haven't watched that show in fucking ever.
jordan holmes
All right.
20 years.
dan friesen
Brad Garrett.
What was his character?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
His character was just a guy who said, Brad Garrett, and was really tall.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So let's assume that Nick Sortor and Alex aren't completely full of shit and that everyone is trying to cover up the extravagant levels of Somali-based fraud.
Does that make ICE shooting someone in the face okay?
If I'm following their logic, there's a lot of Somali-related fraud in Minneapolis.
So ICE is there to arrest a bunch of people, whether or not they're from Somalia or have anything to do with fraud.
The globalists don't want ICE to deport all their minions, so they're fomenting protests against ICE, which then led to ICE killing a citizen.
If that's okay, then I don't know who ICE could not justify killing.
It seems like you could pretty easily reverse engineer justification for them doing almost anything if this is okay.
jordan holmes
It does feel available.
dan friesen
I'm kind of glad that these people are just this fucking stupid now, and don't even for a second consider that it would be possible for them to continue supporting ICE, continue to terrorize migrant communities, and also be against this shooting.
In the past, they would feel obligated to pretend that they cared, which would just be annoying at this point.
So at least they're just fucking who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it is so fundamental to the, like, how would I put it? The corrupt nature of the entire organization.
Because if you were at all sincere about what your stated purpose was as a government organization, you could just go, oh yeah, that guy murdered somebody.
He's fired.
That's one guy.
Who cares?
Who gives a shit if one guy is a piece of shit?
We'll handle it.
We'll just grab him.
We'll fire him.
We'll prosecute him and then we'll move on.
dan friesen
It sends a dangerous message that your army is infected with the woke mind virus.
jordan holmes
But that's what I'm saying.
To that purpose, if you were sincere in your agency, that's easily done and it won't affect your mission whatsoever.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
The only reason that you wouldn't do that is if your mission is completely separate to what it is supposed to be.
And the only thing you can do is control every single person and never break ranks.
Because if you show weakness for a single second, the whole house of cards will fall down.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's why you all have to have your fucking cosplaying social media ass administration figures talking like they're fucking King Leonidas or some shit.
jordan holmes
I'll holla, buddy.
dan friesen
Right, you fucking Norseman.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Yeah, they have to present that image or else it all, yeah, the facade crumbles.
And we start to realize that this isn't okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
No one thinks this is okay.
jordan holmes
It's all image.
That's what it is.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Alex and Nick, Sortor, they have some new angles.
They have some new video.
And Alex has decided, oh, yeah, they totally like hit.
She hit that guy.
The cop got hit.
nick sortor
There's another angle that I posted not too long ago.
I don't know if you guys have that one queued up where it's from the other side, that one right there.
Clear As Day 00:10:56
nick sortor
And if you zoom in on it a little bit, you can clearly, I don't know if you guys can do that live like that, but clearly you can see her hitting the agent with the vehicle, right?
He was standing in front of the vehicle.
alex jones
And right there, you can see him with the vehicle.
Yeah, go full screen with the video, guys.
You can see it right there.
Started over.
You can see that it actually hits him.
He flies back.
Wow, that guy's reflexes were incredibly fast, though.
Look at this.
This is incredible.
Look at that.
Bogey hit him.
Wow.
nick sortor
It's clear as day.
A vehicle, Alex, as you know, is a deadly weapon.
She used a deadly weapon against an ICE agent, and in response, she caught a bullet to the mouth.
I mean, that's just...
alex jones
I mean, I'll give it to this guy, though, and I'm sad she's dead.
He...
You see him jump back.
She still hits him, going right at him.
And he lightning fast pulls his gun.
He said, because he might have hit other people and got her.
That guy is like the fastest gun in the West.
nick sortor
Yeah, dude.
And I went out to dinner with a bunch of these ICE agents last night.
And I got to kind of know them and know their backgrounds and stuff.
And these guys, they're on edge, right?
But for the chill.
alex jones
I mean, yeah.
nick sortor
Yeah, but they're super good at what they do.
They're incredible people.
And they don't want to have to do this.
dan friesen
They don't want to do it.
So the footage that Nick is talking about is a wider shot from further away down the street from where the shooting happened.
It's partially obscured by trees and another vehicle in between the person taking the video and the incident.
It's also shot from above and to the right of where the cars are on the street.
So the perspective makes it look much more like the agent who shot the woman is in the path of the car.
But it's not if you look at other angles.
Just to be crystal clear about this, Nick Sordor is calling Alex mere hours after the shooting, peddling unconvincing videos and arguing this woman got she deserved to get shot in the face.
Is this journalism?
He went to dinner with these guys and they're on edge.
jordan holmes
I never considered because, you know, it just, I suppose maybe my sense of morals have kept me from truly being a good person.
But I had never considered whether or not the Gestapo was nervous.
You know?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, I'm sure that they were.
dan friesen
They were stressed as shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they were on edge.
They were on edge because what if there were consequences for the horrible, horrible shit that they did?
That would probably really bum them out.
dan friesen
And probably on some human level, they don't want to be doing the stuff that they're doing.
jordan holmes
I mean, I always thought that they took a perverse joy out of it because of their inherently fucking awful nature.
dan friesen
I thought you can also, even if that's true, you can still not want to be doing those horrible things.
I'll tell you.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you what, man, if I'm eating dinner with a bunch of ICE agents and they tell me how they're feeling, you get to know their stories.
dan friesen
You know, you get to know you, human, these are humans.
I, you know, not like those dirty commie protesters.
jordan holmes
Maybe if there was a draft.
Like, I get some people in Vietnam being like, I'm going to follow orders, but also I don't want to be here on account of the draft.
Right.
But you walked into an office and were like, I would like to kidnap people, please.
I would like to keep them in cages, and I would like them to run away screaming when I come near.
You chose that life.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, there are many opportunities to not do it and not get court-martialed.
jordan holmes
There's like, you could become a gardener.
dan friesen
See, no to the draft.
Yes to the draft, Miller Genuine, with my ice buddies.
That's what Nick Sortor says.
jordan holmes
I like it.
I like it.
dan friesen
So, look, they're going to suppress this video because it's too damning.
It shows this person running over an ice agent.
alex jones
This is outrageous, but because we have the video and you have hundreds of people attacking ICE, they're there just arresting illegal aliens with huge rap sheets, murderers, rapists, you name it.
But because we have this so quickly, they're screwed.
Because even when the footage came out from behind, it was clear he looks like he jumps out of the way.
No, he's hit.
He's boom and literally has.
I mean, this is insane.
This guy should be like a wide receiver or something.
Boom, he's hit and shoots her.
I mean, God almighty.
I mean, I've never seen such reflexes.
So this is wild.
Nick Sordor.
Wow.
What are they going to do now that we have this frontal footage showing she indeed hit him with the car?
I mean, they're going to try to suppress this, aren't they?
nick sortor
Yeah, no, they're going to totally ignore it.
They're going to do nothing, Alex.
They're going to pretend like this video doesn't exist because it is so damning for their narrative.
dan friesen
These dudes are jacking off on air about how the globalists are going to suppress this video, but they seem to just be ignoring that the video they're playing is watermarked from ABC.
They stole this video from the mainstream media, and now they're making up a fun story about how the mainstream media is never going to let anyone see it.
To be fair, though, Alex has cropped the video at this point, so you can't see the ABC thing.
jordan holmes
That was nice.
dan friesen
But he didn't catch that the first time that he cold-played the video.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's rough.
dan friesen
This is all a game to them.
They know they're fucking with people, and it's ridiculous to pretend otherwise.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I would imagine Nick Sortor's most genuine question to any of those ICE agents was just like, What does it feel like to kill?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, that's fucked up.
dan friesen
I bet not even that's almost too inclusive.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're right.
dan friesen
He probably was just basking in the idea that they might shoot someone else before him.
jordan holmes
Yep.
If I'm, oh, you know what?
dan friesen
The state likes me.
jordan holmes
You know what's crazy about the Nazis is that they don't care as much about loyalty as you might imagine.
And like when you step out of line, they tend to hang just about everybody.
dan friesen
Yeah.
robert barnes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's good until it's not.
jordan holmes
It's weird how that works.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
But at least there's no way of knowing that in advance.
dan friesen
Nope.
So Nick sucks, and he's just talking about what this lady was up to before she got killed by Ice.
jordan holmes
Hey, man.
alex jones
What does she do beforehand?
Maybe you ask, but they don't just chase somebody and get around her car.
Like, what did she do before to have them all rush her?
nick sortor
Well, they were trying to pull her over because she was going after Ace Asia, like following them around and harassing, which is a dangerous situation to begin with, right?
When they're trying to conduct operations.
So they were just, they were trying to make contact with her and get her out of the vehicle.
Right?
alex jones
And we've seen college videos where they're following him, even bumping him, even attacking him, and Ice goes, stop it, and lets him go.
dan friesen
So Nick is reporting to Alex that the woman who was shot had been following ICE prior to the shooting because presumably this is what ICE agents who he's friends with and went to dinner the night before with him told him.
This is allegedly journalism.
Because I'm an old school InfoWars listener, I know to question authority and not just automatically trust the things that federal agents say.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
And that served me well because I didn't just fall for this bullshit like Nick did and then pass it along to Alex and disseminate nonsense.
The woman was shot at 9.37 a.m.
And we know that she dropped her child off at school at approximately 9.
From all available information, her car pulled up at the location where the shooting happened a couple minutes before the incident.
And it does appear that she moved her car in a way that looks like it's blocking traffic, like perpendicular to the flow of traffic.
However, the same video shows that her car was positioned this way and a bunch of cars drove past her.
So the argument that she was capable of physically blocking the street doesn't hold up.
The same video that shows her in any way impeding traffic shows that she wasn't.
Further, videos from right before the shooting clearly indicate that she was moving her car out of the road.
You can see from cases like this how Alex's brand is built on weaponizing curiosity.
If a bunch of kids get shot at a school, that's a mystery that no one wants to answer the hard questions about, even years after all those questions have been answered.
In cases like this, where Alex has to defend the state killing a citizen on the street, there's a lot of less anomalies that he's hung up on.
jordan holmes
It's very straightforward.
dan friesen
You're never going to have to find a Wolfgang how big about this one.
You're supposed to be curious about the things that Alex wants you to think are fake and accept whatever flimsy explanation he comes up with for the things you're supposed to ignore.
That's the game.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then the secondary level of being able to like litigate, to force you to try and litigate the justifications.
You know, like if you just go back to first principle, the only reason this organization even exists is to kidnap and torture people, right?
And then you gave them guns.
Eventually, we were going to get here.
dan friesen
Well, if you mean the DHS, then it was meant it was created to ICE, if you want.
Kidnapping people among different agencies.
It was supposed to coordinate.
jordan holmes
But like from the first principle of this organization, the goal was never going to be anything other than harm people.
And then you gave them guns.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's pursue policy through harm.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's not going to solve any problem.
jordan holmes
So the idea of being like, oh, what direction was her car going?
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter if it was her today.
It was going to be someone somewhere because that's what these people were created to do.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And it was something similar the day before.
And it'll be something similar the next day.
jordan holmes
You bet.
dan friesen
And it's just that this is fucking egregious.
This is an example that's super, super obvious.
But look, you can say a lot of things about ICE.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I can say a lot of things about ICE.
dan friesen
One of the things you can't say about them, I challenge you.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You can't say that they have any DEI going on.
Totally don't.
nick sortor
ICE?
If you notice, there's no DEI in ICE.
That's why they're so effective at their operations.
That's why they're so laser focused and are very good at what they do.
Muscular dudes.
And you know, the female agents are typically assigned to other roles, not apprehensions, which just makes sense.
And so, messing with these guys in general is a bad idea.
And some of the rioters, I'm going to start calling them rioters that are out here now because I've been forced off the scene due to their physical aggression against me.
I'm going to need backup out here by tonight.
I'm just telling you.
They were trying to go up and push these ice agents.
Agitation Agent Threatens Safety 00:15:57
nick sortor
And what happens next?
What do you think happens next?
They get shot in the face with a tear gas canister and then they start crying foul.
alex jones
It's a lot of effort to find out how to show all that.
dan friesen
Nick needs security because he's an agitation agent.
He's not a journalist, and it would be generous to even call him an activist.
He's a piece of shit attention seeker who has no coherent ideology.
And the direct result of his actions are that less people are safe.
He puts people in danger.
I strongly suspect that he doesn't even understand what he's doing, not being journalistic, and how it has no merit because he was 10 years old when James O'Keefe's Acorn video came out.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
dan friesen
He just doesn't know what reporters do.
He doesn't know any better and thinks this is.
jordan holmes
I bet he thinks he's a great journalist.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's very notable to see how much someone like Nick seems to have no thought that the tide could ever turn on him.
He seems very naive, kind of like a social media dipshit who's in way over his head and is a little high on feeling like the state power structure likes him.
I don't see a long career here.
This guy is Ray Romano-ish in the voice and corky Romano-ish in the action.
Would you like some cookies?
unidentified
Ah!
dan friesen
We talked at length about Corky Romano the other day.
jordan holmes
That's why I pulled it out.
dan friesen
I couldn't remember if we talked about it on the show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't think we did.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
But there's only, I only have two Romano references.
Jeez.
I don't.
I don't like cheese.
dan friesen
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Corky it is.
robert barnes
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex has what I would describe as a stupid idea here.
And I think if you listen to his show in the past, you'll be like, what?
alex jones
And I'll say it again.
The weak link is not DHS.
They're doing a great job.
Because it's a newer agency Trump's got to control.
It is the FBI.
I'm not saying they're all bad, but God help us.
I mean, this is just insane.
They should just disband the FBI and just roll over the good agents and call them DHS.
We don't need two federal law enforcements.
I'm serious.
It's time to get rid of it, folks.
I mean, this is a complete joke.
We get nothing but execution by DHS and Tom Omen and nothing but horse shit from the FBI that's sitting around a bunch of politically correct lawyers with their thumbs up their asses.
dan friesen
Alex should think that neither the DHS nor the FBI should be allowed to engage in policing.
The FBI has law enforcement roles, but they can't enforce state laws.
This kind of statement coming from Alex is just fucking insanity.
And anybody who has any familiarity with his show should hear that and immediately recognize this dude has lost it.
Him saying that the FBI should be closed, that's totally fine.
And it fits with the character that he's been playing, but he should also want the DHS gone.
I'm starting to suspect that Alex's audience is largely artificial because no one who listened to him before 2015 could possibly accept this.
And most of the people who started listening to him after Trump have to have moved on to the harder stuff by now.
I know that when I went to the Tucker event in Pennsylvania, there were a ton of people in InfoWars shirts there, but I'm beginning to think that it's all just a brand.
None of them watch this shit.
They've just, they have an idea of who Alex and Infowars are in their head, and that's what the shirts mean to them.
Alex can come on stage and do the catchphrases and they'll cheer, but I can't imagine that there's an actual audience for this show, let alone one that could support a business.
Like, it's, I really don't think that it's real.
jordan holmes
I mean, in a way, I do, I would accept the interpretation of like part of the reason people support his show is so they don't feel like they need to watch it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, like, oh, I buy my supplements, but I haven't watched the show in a long time.
I just support him, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's on auto auto ship.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't be surprised.
I really wouldn't.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that there is a way that you can make enough money to get by on that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But the studio, the watches that we now own.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Like, I don't think you can have that kind of a lifestyle.
jordan holmes
Not with this new world.
dan friesen
No, I don't think so.
It's just, it's insane.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I smell something fishy.
And, you know, Nick Sortor, he smells something fishy too.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
But it's soy.
He smells soy.
jordan holmes
How can you be a soy boy that also wants to start a riot?
Is that possible?
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
I'm confused as to how that works.
Soy boys naturally don't want to start riots, right?
dan friesen
They don't want to be there when the riot gets going, but they might like throw a milkshake at somebody from afar.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, a non-dairy milkshake.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, soy.
jordan holmes
But like, yeah, we gotta figure out how to insult people.
I don't think they're very good at it.
dan friesen
I think soy boys would incite a riot.
I think that's not fair of you.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm not saying that soy boys wouldn't incite a riot.
I'm saying that by definition, the people who use the word soy boy use it to describe weak, effeminate men, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Therefore, it seems insane to call somebody a soy boy and then also be like, and they're willing to stand up and shove a gigantic ICE agent, and then they're mad that they get shot in a tear gas.
dan friesen
Right, to be fair, the people that we've heard him describe as soy boys so far have been the mayor of oh, right, that's right.
jordan holmes
He wasn't calling the people who actually stand up to DHS agents.
dan friesen
Yeah, no, the soy boy is the mayor who told ICE to get out of the city, get the fuck out of our city, right?
jordan holmes
Once again, standing up to a government agency known for kidnapping and torturing people, yeah, but a soy boy could do that at a press conference.
dan friesen
Okay, all right, yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, we'll see what happens when he gets kidnapped and tortured by ICE.
dan friesen
It's been about a decade since we've had to litigate what is and isn't a soy boy.
unidentified
I think that's what makes me frustrated because I thought we were done with soy boy.
jordan holmes
I thought we had moved on.
dan friesen
No, it's not going to come back.
alex jones
Here's the degenerate mayor.
jordan holmes
Degenerate mayor.
jacob frey
And I have a message for ICE.
To ICE, get the fuck out of Minneapolis.
We do not want you here.
Your stated reason for being in this city is to create some kind of safety, and you are doing exactly the opposite.
People are being hurt.
Families are being ripped apart.
Long-term Minneapolis residents that have contributed so greatly to our city, to our culture, to our economy, are being terrorized.
And now somebody is dead.
That's on you.
alex jones
That's on you.
jacob frey
And it's also on you to leave.
It's on you to make sure that further damage, further loss of life and injury is not done.
alex jones
That's another Gavin Newsome psycho.
Hey, Trump, you want to win the midterms?
The money's all been connected to them.
I want Mayor Fry in prison.
That little smart-ass piece of crap.
Nick Sortor comments on him.
nick sortor
Well, what I can tell you, Alex, is these ICE guys aren't leaving because some soy boy mayor goes on TV and says something edgy, says the F-word on live TV so that he can have his cute little sound bites.
No, they don't care.
They laugh at him.
They laugh at him.
And there's nothing he can do.
dan friesen
Is it journalism to call a mayor you disagree with a soy boy?
Is it law and order to demand that Trump jail a mayor who hasn't been charged with any crimes as a stunt to win midterm elections?
These are people who pretend to be offended by talking head shows on CNN being too biased and mouthpieces of the establishment.
The fuck, like, this is ridiculous.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, it is interesting to me because what's unspoken amongst all of these people is that local law enforcement is de facto an arm of federal law enforcement.
unidentified
Now.
jordan holmes
Right?
So, like, if you're the mayor of Minneapolis, ostensibly, you have the ability to command local law enforcement to keep ICE away.
But none of them would ever even consider doing that because there's a very real possibility that the police force will rebel against you.
dan friesen
Well, I think that, you know, in the same way that when there was the, you know, the razor wire at the border, you know, there is this moment of what happens when there's conflicting federal and state policy.
jordan holmes
I mean, it has to be.
It has to be.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that no one really wants to force that issue.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
And I don't think that a lot of it is because you're worried that the police won't side with you.
I think a lot of it is the uncertainty of what happens if we are now in a standoff with federal troops.
I mean, like, what happens then?
nick sortor
Right.
jordan holmes
But I mean, that's, but he's, but that's the point that Nick Sortor is making correctly, saying that there's nothing that this mayor can do about it is because the only thing that the mayor can do about it, they won't do.
dan friesen
Well, yes.
And I think a large part of it is also articulated by Sortor, and that is that, like, the, they're not scared.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, the side that could, in theory, throw ICE out of the state is, is scared.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They are scared because I think people rightly think Trump will probably want federal agents to shoot cops.
jordan holmes
Yep, absolutely.
dan friesen
If it came down to it.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
And I think that no one wants to look at what that world looks like.
jordan holmes
It would be the best thing for all of us if there was an actual police versus federal police standoff.
Because Lord knows how that's going to turn out.
dan friesen
I don't think it's the best thing.
jordan holmes
Probably not.
dan friesen
Isn't that what you just said?
jordan holmes
I mean, in terms of it would be better for everybody if there were fewer people in law enforcement.
dan friesen
Hmm.
Well, I do think they would have less time to arrest people for petty crimes and drugs.
jordan holmes
There's definitely that.
dan friesen
That being said, I would rather not live in a state where there's armed factions fighting each other.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, the problem there is that sooner or later, you're going to have to liberate the prisons.
And then we're talking real enforcement shit.
Then we're talking real shit going down.
Once people are like, hey, since there are no laws now, can we not be in prison?
All this is going to fall apart.
dan friesen
I sold weed.
Right.
jordan holmes
I sold weed, and that guy's a murderer.
Well, what are you going to do?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think that there is like something really ominous about Nick Sortor pretending to be a journalist, coming onto Alex's show that pretends to be about news and being like, ICE isn't scared of you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The very concept of this law enforcement isn't afraid of you is like, yeah, yeah.
That is not how this organization is supposed to work.
Nobody is supposed to be afraid of anybody.
If you're in law enforcement, you're just supposed to enforce laws.
unidentified
You're not supposed to be like, ah, I'm all so scary.
dan friesen
Allow me to quote Thomas Jefferson, maybe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Alex definitely quoting Thomas Jefferson, that's what I'm quoting.
Right.
The government that fears its people.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's good.
People fearing government bad.
jordan holmes
We are the government.
The people are the government.
The government and the people are the same.
Law enforcement and the people are the same.
We're all the people.
None of us should be afraid of any of us.
unidentified
Nah.
jordan holmes
Okay, fair enough.
dan friesen
So anyway, this mayor, Soyboy, he's trying to embolden his goons in Antifa.
nick sortor
Sure.
Nobody is actually threatened by this guy, but what he is doing is he is positioning himself to be able to say, when one of these leftist goons that he has empowered out here that goes and, God forbid, kills an ICE agent that he hopes so badly will happen, he'll be able to say, yep, I told them they should leave.
It's their fault.
They should have left when I told them to leave.
So it's their fault that one of my lefties went out and killed an ICE agent.
alex jones
Notice the talking point before Trump even got back in is ICE is going to go kill the illegals, but because they've been so restrained under attack, it happened.
So now it's like, you're going to die if you don't.
And now finally she's ramming them with a car.
She dies.
And he doesn't wait to see what happened.
He immediately says, this is your fault.
No, it's your fault for running an invasion against this country.
nick sortor
So, I mean, it's all about the talking points, man.
All about the talking points.
dan friesen
No shit.
So we're clear, if ICE kills more people, we should blame whoever they kill.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Also, we should blame the mayor of Minneapolis for getting everyone worked up about ICE.
Yep.
And we should abstractly blame past presidents for causing an invasion of immigrants into the country.
jordan holmes
Better believe it.
dan friesen
No matter what happens in the future, we can be sure of one thing.
It will not be federal agents' fault if they kill more people.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Get that out of your head.
jordan holmes
There can never be any concept of responsibility for what they do.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
And all incidents can be excused and are your fault.
nick sortor
Yep.
alex jones
Cool.
jordan holmes
I think that's a really great recipe for a fun and happy government.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Filled with happy and fun people.
dan friesen
And Americana.
So Nick Sortor is just one man.
He wishes he was mostly.
jordan holmes
Well, he's also him and then a bunch of ICE agents that he likes to get dinner with.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, they share a lot of goals in common.
Sure.
But he is of one body.
He can't split like Michael Keaton.
jordan holmes
Can't be in multiple places in multiplicity of places.
dan friesen
He fucking wishes he could because then he could cover the news better.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
nick sortor
Alex, one of the biggest problems that I have right now is figuring out where the hell to go next because there's so many places.
I'm one person.
So many things going on all over the country in California and Ohio.
And we're hearing about places in Washington state that are just full of these Somali people.
alex jones
You forget Operation Paper Trail where they paid off 97 cops for running murder for hire with a Somali running it all with the government.
That never hit the national news.
I mean, they broke into a safe house with computers, millions and millions of cash, all the hits they'd done, murdering cops that spoke out.
Have you seen Operation Paper Trail?
nick sortor
No, I haven't.
alex jones
By the way, I didn't do that to Dunk Cong you.
I didn't know about it either until last night.
People think that nothing's being prosecuted.
No, it never makes that out of the local news.
dan friesen
So there may be a reason that Nick hasn't heard of Operation Paper Trail, and that's because it's not something from real life.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's actually a series of missions in Grand Theft Auto Online.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
The missions do involve raiding safe houses.
So I think that someone may have printed out a tweet about GTA and it found its way into Alex's stack and he thinks it's real.
unidentified
Oh my God.
dan friesen
He wants us to believe that 97 police in some unnamed city were involved in a murder for hire scheme where they kept computers and lists of all their past hits in a safe house.
What the fuck are you talking about?
jordan holmes
That seems very almost video game-y.
nick sortor
Yeah.
jordan holmes
In terms of logic.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know how huge it is when there's one person involved in a murder for hire thing?
nick sortor
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a big deal because it happens so rarely and it is so interesting.
dan friesen
97 cops.
jordan holmes
They make 2020s out of it.
There's so many true crime.
There's just so many fucking true crime blanks.
We would know about a true crime as fascinating as 97 cops have a secret fucking organization.
dan friesen
I think I've watched more than one half-hour video on the internet about a woman who hired someone who was an undercover cop to kill her husband.
Fascinating Grand Theft Auto Mystery 00:00:59
dan friesen
I think I have taken the time and watched it.
I'm like, ooh, this is fascinating.
If there was 97 cops involved in a racket.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
There's been a documentary and a fictional version of a show about a guy whose wife was maybe murdered by an owl.
The fucking staircase, man.
Like, these people are nuts.
Of course we'd know about this already.
dan friesen
Yeah, and like cops were killed to keep it quiet.
This is a fucking amazing absurd.
Anyway, I think it's from Grand Theft Auto.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's probably from Grand Theft Auto.
dan friesen
So Nick Sortor leaves and Alex has to clear something up.
White People and Tyranny 00:14:53
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he sounds fucking crazy?
Yeah, a little bit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And maybe like a hypocrite.
He's not.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Well, he's not.
alex jones
By the way, people online, the left, are like, Jones hates the feds.
Jones hates law enforcement.
Jones is worried about martial law, but now that Trump's doing, he loves it.
That's not that true.
I'm over there 32 years in April.
Coming up.
31 plus years.
I said, I'm not anti-government.
I'm anti-unconstitutional government.
When you've been hit with 40-plus million illegals the last 15 years, it's total bedlam.
They're being signed up to vote, all this mass crime.
And then the feds finally do their job.
I 100% back them.
It's all about leadership.
So that's where we are.
dan friesen
That's where we are.
So this is everything you need to understand, Alex, assuming that you've also listened to thousands of hours of him talking.
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
He was always about wanting the government to do a certain thing, namely kick out all the non-white people from the country or be so hostile towards them that they want to leave.
He's always wanted a white nationalist infrastructure of government that caters to what he believes to be the natural order, which prioritizes the desires of straight white men over the rights of everyone else.
However, early in his career, that sounded bad.
Back in the day, you'd get treated like David Duke if you said things like David Duke, and that was no way to get rich.
Even more than getting rich, Alex desperately needs to be accepted and think that everyone thinks he's cool.
And he was smart enough to recognize that if you were openly Pat Buchanan, people were going to treat you like Pat Buchanan.
So he hid.
He made his criticisms appear to be political, when in reality, they were just kind of based on racist vibes.
Alex was more successful than pretty much anyone ever in terms of pretending that his hatred of the government was based on some bullshit ideas about states' rights or posse comitatus, when in hindsight, it was an awesome gamble that he took.
That gamble would always pay off as long as there wasn't a federal government in place that might make your dreams of a white country come true.
Until that point, you can hide all of your bullshit behind criticisms of the state and how tyrannical DUI checkpoints are.
But now the government he's always wanted is in place and they're achieving the results he's always wanted through the means he's always pretended to oppose.
He can't just tell the audience that he was fucking with them about that police state stuff because that might actually get him killed.
And even if it didn't, it would severely impact his self-image.
He's a liar, but as long as he pretends not to be, he can feel like he's not.
He wants the audience to stop calling him a hypocrite because to the thing that mattered to him, he's not been hypocritical.
All the stuff he's transparently hypocritical about, that's all just the stuff he was using a mask to hide his core values.
So it's kind of annoying that his audience would get caught up on that and be like, hey, man, I thought you didn't like the police state.
unidentified
Oh, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
You don't understand.
This is about white stuff.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
It's crazy.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He couldn't be more clearly trying to indicate this to the audience.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's pretty embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it is interesting that to this day, no matter how many different iterations of this story there are, at no point in time does the genie show up and he's like, I'll grant you three wishes.
And the guy goes, no, I've seen this shit before.
I don't want any fucking wishes.
Go back into your lamp.
Leave me alone.
Leave me the fuck alone, right?
But somehow we still are like, I'll wish for this.
It'll probably go great.
dan friesen
I think there are just enough good genie stories.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just enough.
dan friesen
People think they can take their.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, Robin Williams being a genie really takes a lot of the ironic punishment out of it that was a pretty important part of the story for a long time.
dan friesen
It's true.
So I got pretty excited because Barnes was on.
Nick Sortor was on.
Sure.
And then Alex was like, I'm going to go to calls.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
And I think I got pretty excited about that prospect because I don't think his audience is into this.
jordan holmes
They shouldn't be.
dan friesen
I like to believe that the Infowars audience, whatever there actually is, would be like, hey, man, cool it with this.
Let's not be down with ICE shooting someone.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, he never goes to calls.
He teases it, and then it never happens, which makes me think he got some calls that were going to be saying, hey, man.
jordan holmes
He's going to screen some calls.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So instead, he just complains about how bad white people have it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Finally, we stand up and say we're going to deport all these people with huge criminal records.
And he's throwing fetch saying, get out of here.
You're the ones that did this.
No, you and your party did this, invading this country.
And we're not guilted by your political correctness anymore.
Though I had, oh, God, without even looking for it, I saw a bunch of videos in the U.S., Australia, you name it, where little five-year-olds go to public school for the first time.
And they're crying and saying, I wish I wasn't white.
I learned I'm a bad person today.
I hate it.
That happened.
I got four children.
When I'm still little, I've been to one of my kids a year ago.
Imagine little kids are teaching them their bad because they're white.
Trying to, and I play you all the clips of the administrators like, we need to teach whites they're bad.
It's all insane, folks.
It's all divide and conquer.
And Mondani saying, yeah, whites can't own their own homes.
We're going to take white people's homes and give them to other people.
They're not going to give brown people anything.
They're just selling you on tyranny to get you to accept it.
It is crazy.
dan friesen
Damn, man.
I wonder how Alex is seeing all these videos without even looking.
All these white kids crying about how they're made to feel bad.
I wonder if he's following a bunch of Nazis on social media.
I would probably put it in his feed.
unidentified
Probably.
dan friesen
So Alex will see a tweet that's lying about something that someone who works in Momdani's office says, and he'll twist it and report it as Momdani saying that white people's homes are going to be expropriated and given to brown people.
That's not true, but it's true to how Alex feels because he's a racist.
Kids at school being taught about non-white historical figures or them learning about colonialism isn't them being taught that white people are bad, but it feels that way to Alex because he's a racist.
He's a sensitive loser who helps other sensitive losers feel okay about their inability to cope with the modern world.
And this looks really sad.
unidentified
Yep.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, on the other hand, if this is white people being crushed under the boot of tyranny, not bad.
Not bad.
I could think of a lot of different boots of tyranny that have crushed a lot of different people over the years.
Way worse than this.
dan friesen
Did you see that guy take a knee?
jordan holmes
I know.
I mean, did you see that?
And then they punished him.
And because he was so great, then the last football game I saw, the Bears were in the playoffs.
All of them with their hands on their hearts singing the national anthem.
This was shortly after she was shot, by the way, by ICE, singing their fucking hearts out about how much they love America.
Thank God that we are not crushed under the boot of tyranny of a guy taking a knee.
dan friesen
But here's what you don't, here's what you're not taking into account.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And it makes sense because you're a soy boy.
jordan holmes
I am a soy boy.
Can you be a leftist goon and a soy boy, or is it soy boy or goon?
dan friesen
Look, everyone wants to talk about how like Kaepernick had it so bad.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Right?
Like he was kicked out of the league basically.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
The whole thing.
dan friesen
But really, the victims are white people who want to watch football because he was good.
jordan holmes
I mean, you're right.
dan friesen
They were deprived of watching him and having the potential great career that he could have had.
Do you not think about that?
That's oppression.
jordan holmes
I can't remember whose joke it is, but it was just something like, man, football in the SEC, that's keeping a lot of white racists from doing bad.
dan friesen
Fair.
So look, people are mean to white people.
And Alex has had enough of it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Like FEMA.
They're so mean to white people.
alex jones
And I mean, I've got just today dozens of videos I haven't gotten to.
They're just administrators, state and federal, saying white people are bad.
And we're going to take everything they got.
And it's all white women doing it.
And it's like, this is even real.
Remember that it came out of here?
jordan holmes
Because it's not.
alex jones
White people don't get help in the Carolinas.
People like that can't be real.
Then the manual comes out, the Zoom meetings.
It's a bunch of fat white women and weird fat gay guys and a couple of black ladies going, yeah, we used to help everybody, but we don't help white people now.
And you're just like, if I was at FEMA, I'd help anybody.
dan friesen
You're a good man.
So FEMA didn't say that they didn't help white people.
jordan holmes
That's shocking.
I can't believe that.
It almost sounds like it's not real.
dan friesen
Yeah, some racist dipshit on social media posted that claim, and the backup for it was FEMA's 2022 to 2026 strategic plan, which articulated a policy of, quote, the consistent and systemic, fair, just, and impartial treatment of all individuals.
FEMA said that their goal was to treat everyone equally, but to Alex, that feels like them saying that they're not going to help white people because he's a racist.
This is loser stuff.
That's really, I think, what you know how effective it was when people started calling people Trump weird for a little while.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is loser shit.
jordan holmes
This is loser shit.
dan friesen
Go with, like, this is the branding.
I mean, you're a fucking loser.
jordan holmes
I just don't understand how it is that these people can be like, can puff their chest out and then also be this.
dan friesen
This, this soft?
jordan holmes
You know, it is, it is wild.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it also just shows the limitations of language.
Like, no matter how emphatic you can be about, like, no, I'm using the word equal because it equals equal.
I don't know how more equal to describe the word equal as.
It's a balance.
An equality, a shared equal.
dan friesen
Alex needs them to bend over backwards.
And whenever they say equal, bring up white people too.
Even if you don't, I'm going to get worried.
unidentified
It is.
dan friesen
I'm going to get worried.
And I'm sensitive to that stuff.
jordan holmes
It is the concept of if you have been on top of a pedestal for so long, treating people equally is treating me worse.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's the that's just the bare concept.
dan friesen
That's how it feels to Alex.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And he's lying about the reality of it to make other people feel that way too.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he's a racist and he wants more racists.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You can feel like that, or you could feel instead like white people have kicked everybody else out of the fucking boat and it's keeping them drowning.
And maybe we could just help him back up on the boat.
Never mind.
dan friesen
So Alex is just, I think he doesn't want to talk much more about the shooting because he's getting real into the race weeds.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
He starts talking about people in the service industry, how everybody wants white customers.
jordan holmes
Fine, fine.
alex jones
You know, they got industry studies I've seen before, but I've been looking for them.
I say that just to see this stuff.
People will tell you, black folks will tell you that are in the service industry, that they've done service.
They say we love white customers, whether it's a massage or a waitress or a barista, because white people are the biggest tippers.
Did you know that on average?
Not white liberals are the lowest tippers, but white conservatives.
And it's not even some guilt thing that a white person gives a big tip to a black person.
The black person already knows, oh, white people, if I'm nice, they're going to be really nice because they want to be nice.
And then if I come over to them nice, I get a giant tip on average.
unidentified
That's how the real world works.
alex jones
But Hillary Clinton has come out in books, witnesses, how people have worked with her as a security.
She doesn't just never tip.
When she goes to a restaurant, most of the time, she doesn't even pay.
Because these are predators, folks.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
So Alex is making an interesting and entirely made-up point here, but because he brought it up, I should tell you that the entire reason we have a tipping culture in the United States is because of sub-minimum wages that were a holdover from slavery.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
If you go to other countries, it can be seen as rude to tip people in service industry positions because it implicitly assumes that their job is worth less than some other job that you wouldn't tip someone for.
We've taught ourselves that it's just a nice thing to do, and obviously tipping someone is better than not in our current economy.
But let's not kid ourselves here.
We wouldn't have a service industry where labor costs are subsidized by customers if it weren't for business owners in the South looking for ways to continue to enslave people after the Civil War.
Anyway, I'd love to see the studies that Alex is citing here.
I imagine it's a paper published by Grand Theft Auto University.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Jesus Christ.
What an asshole.
jordan holmes
I don't know how clearly to describe systemic abuse, but I mean, he did a fairly good job.
He just views it as like, and that's how it's supposed to be.
dan friesen
There have also been a fair amount of studies that have been done about implicit tipping bias that disfavors black people in the service industry from both black and white customers.
Naturally.
There's a pretty healthy body of analysis and research that's been done on that.
So I just think Alex is stupid.
And maybe he follows a bunch of racists on Twitter, and that's where he sees a lot of stuff.
jordan holmes
They tend to have motivated reasoning when it comes to what they think is happening.
Tends to be, they think things are happening racistly against white people.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
All the time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It feels bad, and that feels good for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, these people are insane.
That's another good way of putting it.
dan friesen
So, uh-oh.
jordan holmes
Boop, boo-doo-boo-boop, boop, boop.
dan friesen
We got a tweet about the shooting.
So Alex has got to cover it.
jordan holmes
Fuck me.
alex jones
Major fake news operation from the left just got demunked.
They claim the ICE agent shot the terrorists from the driver's window.
Bullet holes are in the windshield.
Even more proof this was fully self-defense and was about to get killed.
We already have the footage.
God's Annoying Advice 00:10:01
alex jones
All right.
We're going to go to break.
Come back at the number.
I'll take your calls cover news.
But remember this.
The variable, the default, the game changer.
The person that decides whether this dog hunts is you.
So I need your support.
This sale is so insane.
I have to check, but we had so many big sales lately.
This probably is the biggest sale we ever had.
dan friesen
It's probably the biggest.
So it's fairly obvious from pictures of the scene that there's a bullet hole in the car's windshield, but that doesn't prove anything.
The officer fired multiple shots, and the hole in the windshield is about as far to the driver's side edge of the window as you can get.
But more importantly, you can't tell the angle that shot was fired just from the picture.
It's notable that there's only one bullet hole in the windshield, though.
If you take the one hole to be proof that the officer was right to shoot at this person, then you have to take the fact that there's only one hole in the windshield as proof that he fired multiple shots after he was no longer in any danger.
So Alex accepting this, great in the moment, but upon reflection, maybe it looks bad.
Maybe there's no trigger discipline here.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
Anyway, it's a good sale.
jordan holmes
This is the biggest ever.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
To commemorate the new level of licking of boots.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, Alex was going to go to calls, and he has been teasing it.
Right.
But then he comes back from break.
And apparently one of his dumb employees has been waving around a piece of paper.
And Alex is like, ooh, I got to cover this big news.
Unfortunately, I don't know what it is.
jordan holmes
That is a problem.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
This is Thomas, one of our great researchers and producers, running around freaking out for like an hour waving stuff at me.
Read this, read this.
And I had so much going on, I was like, okay, I'm going to read it, but then I get more info.
I didn't read it.
Oh, my God.
And Trump, everything he says he's going to do, he gets about 95% done.
He definitely tries it.
He just announced something today that if you wanted to drive a steak through the vampire BlackRock's heart, you would do.
And so Thomas just came back here in the bring and he said, will you please read this?
And Thomas is really smart.
He's been all over this.
So I said, well, Thomas, you just come in here.
Next segment with us.
unidentified
I'll see.
alex jones
You talk about it.
But, well, I'll tell you about it when we come back.
jordan holmes
We're going to go to prayer.
alex jones
You know, here's the deal.
I can intellectually look at Trump and I can analyze him and say he's way better than the Democrats.
You know, lesser two eels.
But at the end of the day, I sometimes get up on a Saturday morning or maybe I wake up at 3 a.m. and can't sleep.
And I just sit there in the dark praying to God.
And by praying, I don't ask for stuff when I'm praying.
I'm just like, God, I'm like, and God's like, bat Trump.
dan friesen
It's very funny how little Alex knows about whatever story he's trying to tease here.
He's way out in front of his skis.
Poor Thomas tried to get him to read a tweet, and Alex couldn't even put in that much effort.
jordan holmes
Not going to do it.
Not going to do it.
dan friesen
Waving her at a piece of paper.
jordan holmes
Alex, read this.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
How about you?
Come on in.
I don't read.
dan friesen
I don't do the reading.
I don't know what this says.
jordan holmes
Is it audiobook?
dan friesen
I hope all those We Are Change people and the 9-11 truthers who really hated the Iraq war are excited about how Alex is so deep in the weeds supporting a tyrant that he has to retreat to pretending God tells him to support the guy.
Like, this is pathetic.
jordan holmes
I mean, man, if that's.
I guess that.
I suppose the thing about that that is great is that it's impenetrable, right?
If your whole argument is God tells me to do this, then there's no point in arguing about specifics.
alex jones
Nope.
jordan holmes
Right?
God has told you to support Trump.
So it doesn't matter how many people you see murdered.
God has told you to support Trump.
The only problem is you didn't go see fucking Gene Hackman, man.
dan friesen
A huge problem.
jordan holmes
So, your God bullshit means nothing to me.
You're a lying piece of shit.
And your God's a liar.
dan friesen
Can I take you one step further than this?
I think I would feel that way even if he did go to Gene Hackman.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
But he's a worm because he didn't.
jordan holmes
The fact that he didn't go to Gene Hackman.
dan friesen
I'm going to Gene Heckman or not has nothing to do with God.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
That's definitely true.
dan friesen
That's not what Alex is lacking faith.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yes.
It is not about whatever God may or may not be real in Alex's estimation.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is about if the God that he is professing is real, then he is also a piece of shit.
dan friesen
I've made a big decision that I'm going to do on this show.
jordan holmes
You're going to attack and dethrone God?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Oh, I'm going to say I don't believe Alex is religious.
I agree.
I don't believe it at all.
I think it's all fake.
jordan holmes
I think you're right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yep.
I have been a little bit close to the vest about that because I don't think it's great to, you know, judge other people's privately held beliefs.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
I don't believe the sincerity of his religious beliefs at the very public saying that.
So one of the reasons that I'm struggling with Alex and his relationship with God is this next clip.
And I think, I don't know how to describe this other than to say that it sounds like God annoys Alex.
alex jones
But at the end of the day, folks, anybody that uses half their brain and any even intellectually knows Trump's way better than the Democrats.
And all the evil and all the liars are against him.
So whether he's good or bad or whatever, he's been put there.
Make no mistake.
Because at 3 a.m., when I get woke up by the Holy Spirit and told to get on my knees, I'll be honest, sometimes I'm sitting there listening to God.
I'm just like, please, I got.
And it's just like, get out there and warm Trump.
They're going to shoot him down with a missile and put a bomb wound into a bag and they're going to try to shoot him.
And the next month he shouldn't do any public events.
And a month later, I'm just like, okay, I'll do what you say.
So the end of the day, that's why I backed Trump.
dan friesen
It really sounds like Alex is describing God as annoying.
This doesn't sound like someone who is in awe of or has respect for the divine.
It sounds like someone who wants God to get to the point.
He sounds like, come on, you're all right.
jordan holmes
You're God is.
dan friesen
You're a boss who's calling a meeting.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I've heard it already.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, God is wrong, according to Alex.
The globalists didn't shoot a missile at Trump's plane, and no one sewed explosives into their clothes or anything.
His examples of things God told him to say were things that didn't happen.
But more glaringly, as you brought up, God did tell Alex to go to Gene Hackman, and Alex didn't do it.
He's a faithless servant, a worthless follower.
I say this is a pretty solid agnostic who has no ill will towards religious people.
The only way Alex could act like this is if he doesn't believe in God at all.
He's constructing this entirely false persona around him being a prophet who God talks to and sends on little side quests, but it's all made up.
He sings his own praises on air while ignoring and forgetting all the times that he directly disobeyed God.
And no God puts up with that kind of shit.
I know that Alex knows that.
jordan holmes
They tend not to like it.
dan friesen
There's one thing that gods don't like, and it's being mocked.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
They're not chill about that.
jordan holmes
Not cool with it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Usually not good with competitors.
Ball would agree.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Ball got fucked up.
Yeah.
dan friesen
When God tells you to do something directly and then you don't do it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then you get on your radio show and you try to make money by talking about how great you are and how you do everything God tells you to do.
Yeah.
I think the only way you could do that is if you don't believe that there's anything that you're disrespecting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, I do feel historically that God is loath to give direct commands for this exact purpose.
Because if God gives a direct command and it's not followed, then the punishment has got to be godly, you know?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You got to fuck somebody real hard.
And so, you know, that's how you get a guy in the belly of a whale.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You got to really magically fuck with somebody.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So the idea of like showing up at Alex's place at 3 a.m. and seeing him give you the like wrap it up signal, motherfucker, you're dead.
Right?
Or you're talking to somebody who thinks it's hilarious, and that would be the devil.
dan friesen
Yeah, the devil, it checks out with him.
Yep.
Passes a smell test, and it's sulfur.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
But like, yeah, this just, you can't treat God like this.
robert barnes
No.
dan friesen
It's disrespectful.
jordan holmes
God is against it, generally speaking.
dan friesen
Yeah.
robert barnes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that Alex probably like he just recognizes that like I've been real bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If there's a God, I should have been fucked struck by lightning by now or something.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
I'm going to roll the bones on this.
jordan holmes
What if, okay, let me throw this out at you.
God is totally real, right?
And this is his main source of entertainment.
Like, this is God's real housewives.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, God goes to Alex's place and then comes back with all of his angels and they like sit in the throne together.
And he's like, can you watch?
You're not going to believe this.
Listen to what I told this guy to do and watch him not do it.
I'm fucking God.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Right?
Isn't that crazy?
dan friesen
Or like Alex is just such a stupid drunk that God keeps telling him things.
jordan holmes
That is fucking good.
dan friesen
And it's like he and the angels get together the next day and they're like, I wonder how he's going to interpret that.
jordan holmes
Totally.
50/50 Energy Move 00:11:13
dan friesen
This game of telephone is going to get fucked up.
jordan holmes
This is going to be fun to watch.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, I don't think he can respect God.
jordan holmes
Probably not.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex's producer or researcher or whatever, Thomas, who's been waving that paper around.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
We get to this story.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it's a classic, a classic fumble.
alex jones
So analyzing Trump, everywhere he's got executive power, he's making the really good moves.
He runs into brick walls, the DMG, and that invincible corruption.
And Thomas Siska is a great producer here, a great researcher, really smart.
And I wanted to get him in here to talk about this.
Trump just came out.
Blackstone craters at where Trump teases institutional ban on single-family homes.
So you've got, not just here, but in Europe and other places, the big banks, Blackstone at the center of it, which is a subsidiary of BlackRock, buying them all up for 40%, 50% what they're worth to literally drive the market up and enslave the people.
dan friesen
Alex knows nothing about this story, but he shouldn't be for it.
Trump posted on social media that he wanted to ban large institutional investors from buying single-family homes, which is completely against the free market stuff that Alex is supposed to love.
Trump posting about this caused Blackstone's stock to drop immediately, which under other circumstances might be seen as someone manipulating the stock market, but I guess that's cool now.
Also, Blackstone is not a subsidiary of BlackRock, although they do sound similar because they both start with black, and then Stones and Rocks are the same thing.
jordan holmes
They are very similar.
dan friesen
They're different companies, though.
jordan holmes
God, how do they do that?
dan friesen
So Larry Fink invested in Blackstone in the 80s, but he bought himself out in 1994.
So he hasn't been involved with them for basically Alex's entire career.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Alex has just confused these two.
jordan holmes
Just throw them all together.
dan friesen
It's fascinating how Alex works 20 hours a day and gets visions from God, but still has to make up lies to cover for the fact that he doesn't know basic details about the stories that he's lying to the audience about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is a big whiff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, the only thing that I think about is like knowing what I know.
If I was the president, a notorious klepto and a steeler guy.
And I could manipulate stock prices, maybe I'd be like, I'm going to do this.
And when the price went down, I'd like buy a bunch of it.
dan friesen
I almost don't know if you would even be conscious of it.
jordan holmes
Right.
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
I don't even, I don't even know, like.
If he just talks shit about tweets, he's going to post.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then the person who's around him, like, maybe makes money.
I don't know.
unidentified
It's crazy the chaos.
jordan holmes
Somebody's getting rich.
dan friesen
I think a lot of people are.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
And that's not good.
dan friesen
Not this way.
So, Thomas, young Thomas.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I don't want to be mean.
jordan holmes
Let's be mean.
dan friesen
Okay, he's stupid.
alex jones
Okay.
thomas sisca
You had said last Saturday that you wanted to see some of the same energy that we saw in Venezuela happen here domestically.
And I think we're starting to see it now.
I mean, we're starting up.
alex jones
2,000 rating in Minnesota.
jordan holmes
Bring back Soar Tour.
thomas sisca
We're starting this new year off very aggressively.
And everyone knows that we have a really bad crisis in this country with BlackRock and private equity.
And I mean, they buy up so many houses that they have such huge inventory to the point where, you know, nobody can even buy a house.
You're forced to rent.
alex jones
They've cornered the market.
thomas sisca
And they can totally control the market.
And Trump is aware of this.
And, you know, you got Larry Fink involved in Panama and, you know, involved in different things with Trump.
And Trump knows these people are total crooks.
But like you've said before, these institutions are in place.
Trump is gathering them, just gobbling up, capturing them, and using them to turn around this ship and get the globalists.
alex jones
I agree.
Sometime in the last two weeks, Trump, you can tell when to hold another year.
thomas sisca
Yes.
alex jones
You can feel it.
Like, we're like, I mean, like, it's like you're in a car in some thousand horsepower Hellcat and you finally hit the excellent.
He's like, we're there.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, it does feel different.
I think he's escalated certainly his danger that he poses to the civilized world.
jordan holmes
Escalation is a really good point.
Yeah.
Or a little way of describing it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is kind of like he hit the NOS.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This Thomas guy is not ready for the air.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
He sounds uncertain and dumb.
And when he's explaining Trump's actions, it's too obvious he's trying to convince himself that it makes sense.
Trump's letting BlackRock-owned companies take over the ports around the Panama Canal, but he secretly wants to crutch them.
And that's why he's tweeting about Blackstone, which are the same.
Sure, man.
All right.
But what the fuck do I know?
I thought Chase didn't have the goods, and he basically owns Alex's business now.
jordan holmes
So it's a fair point.
dan friesen
Maybe things will work out for young Thomas.
jordan holmes
Not on air, though.
dan friesen
He could.
jordan holmes
I suppose.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's see what happens.
Bring Chase back.
Just for the fun of it.
dan friesen
I think, you know what?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Mix it up.
Who fucking cares?
dan friesen
Fucking Nick Sortor all.
jordan holmes
What are we playing?
Sortor and Thomas, that's what we've got.
Sortor and Thomas and Barnes.
None of them hold a candle to Chase's weird Brendan energy.
He's got a bleeding disorder, Dan.
dan friesen
He does have a bleeding disorder.
Now, you know what would be really fucking fun?
alex jones
What?
dan friesen
If out of spite, Chase started his own show, brought in Pachenic.
jordan holmes
Oh, and Troyer.
Yes.
Yes.
dan friesen
But he still owns.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
What are you going to do?
Fucking stop me.
Oh, you can't.
I own you.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now I own everybody.
dan friesen
I own you, Harrison.
I don't want you, Sortor.
jordan holmes
Oh, is Smith still around?
Oh, Jesus Christ.
You don't get more irrelevant than those other hosts all being gone and people still not knowing you're there.
dan friesen
Harrison Smith is furniture that's going to get repossessed whenever the state comes in.
jordan holmes
I mean, if the lights get turned off and he is still in there, I wouldn't be surprised.
dan friesen
No one will notice.
Nope.
So, Trump, hey, man, he made some bad ideas of housing.
Sure.
That 50-year mortgage thing.
jordan holmes
Well, oh, man, so many bad ideas with housing.
dan friesen
Listen to Alex's excuse for the 50-year mortgage.
thomas sisca
Let's hear it.
And this is huge.
This is what we voted for.
And now he's set to go to Davos in two weeks and tell the globalists directly to their face that there's a new sheriff in town and all this is coming to an end.
And Americans are going to be able to afford to buy houses again.
We know that the 50-year mortgage was not taken well when he announced that 50-year mortgage.
alex jones
He just floated that because they told him to.
He wanted to pay attention.
dan friesen
But here's the key.
What?
Hold on.
So I get that Alex is trying to move on pretty fast there, but did he just say that Trump suggested 50-year mortgages because someone told him to say it and he wasn't paying attention?
Is that okay?
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Can any politician just use that as an excuse for a bad idea now?
jordan holmes
I was just repeating what literally anyone nearby told me just a short while ago.
dan friesen
Because I wasn't paying attention.
Because I don't care.
Sleepy Joe, though.
jordan holmes
The idea of recognizing the housing crisis and then being like, and Trump is going to help.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Makes me so sad.
I used to have anger towards something, and now it is developed into a deep and abiding sadness at tragedy.
Like the idea that your brain would have been so warped and so fucked up, and you would be so stupid that you're like, Trump is going to keep these billionaires from exploiting the housing market.
dan friesen
Right.
The real estate guy whose dad was a villain for Bob Dylan.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You know, slum lords are really interested in turning it all around.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's a hospitality guy.
jordan holmes
It's because they're forced to be slum lords by Blackstone?
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah, man, it's dumb.
It's dumb.
And I think that the fundamental confusion between Blackstone and BlackRock only makes this funny.
Question mark.
Also, I shot someone in the face this morning.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Why are we talking about a dumb tweet that you misread?
Oh, well.
Maybe they'll kill Trump for this, though.
This move that he made in the housing market.
jordan holmes
It seems absurd, but okay.
alex jones
If they kill him for anything, it's going to be this because we are 4% of the population today.
26% of all drug-cost.
jordan holmes
Soyboys?
alex jones
He's already cut that by half.
Not enough, but a good move.
It's already happening.
He's already got energy prices cut, but he's only turning it back a little bit when it comes to overall inflation.
But this issue of where BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street, Blackstone literally are just buying up millions of houses and just sitting there empty to drive up prices and F with us.
They're not doing that in other parts of the world.
They are literally screwing us on purpose.
They do it in Germany, too.
And it should be illegal.
It's absolutely.
And so the fact that Daniel Trump does what he says, the fact he's doing this, this is so exciting.
dan friesen
This stinks of something he's never going to talk about again.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
Because I think that once he's off air, he'll be like, oh, no.
Wait, Black Water, is that the same thing too?
No, because water and rocks are different.
jordan holmes
Water and rocks are different.
What other black and then natural element?
dan friesen
Black fire.
jordan holmes
See, there we go.
Black earth.
Black air?
dan friesen
Hair is not an element.
unidentified
Hair.
jordan holmes
Black hair.
Yes.
dan friesen
Blackbeard.
jordan holmes
What is the opposite?
I know there was a pollution guy in Captain Planet.
There was a Captain Pollution or something.
I don't know what level of escalation we've gotten, Pat.
Captain Pollution seems almost benign at this point.
Like, pollution's way low on the list of problems that a series of billionaire monsters would create a superhero for or a supervillain for, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And I think that, you know, there was a jocularity in those cartoon villains.
jordan holmes
There was.
dan friesen
Like, even Claw, you know, was like, I'll get you next time, Gadget.
Like, they kind of liked doing that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
At least they were having fun.
dan friesen
We're not having fun.
jordan holmes
No one's having fun.
No one's having fun.
dan friesen
Alex isn't really having fun.
jordan holmes
No.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's what sucks this so hard is it would be better if all of these evil fucks were at least enjoying it.
Executive Order on Home Buying 00:06:29
jordan holmes
You know, at least then I could be like, well, at least somebody's fucking happy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And instead they're making everybody miserable.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And there's like a halfway.
There's a going halfway with enjoying it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's it's it's annoying.
robert barnes
It's weak.
dan friesen
So Trump is going to sign an executive order about this home buying thing.
jordan holmes
I'm sure he will.
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
alex jones
So let's restate this.
Trump says he's set to take action with executive order banning big institutional investors from buying single-family dwellings.
thomas sisca
Yes.
Incredible.
And I really hope that that's what we're going to see today with this executive order.
I'm really looking forward to him going to Davos and preaching this return to true Americana and individualism and private ownership.
dan friesen
Trump did preach something.
Speech was nuts.
So he also didn't sign that executive order, but Alex really shouldn't be for this.
I get that everyone is being hurt by the horrible economy that folks like it only works for people like Trump.
And it's pretty impossible to deny socialist-leaning policies.
But if this is okay with Alex, then what is the line in terms of planned economies?
I get that Thomas is saying that Trump is going to bring back ownership, but he's doing it by depriving the institutional investors from being allowed to own things.
I know it sucks that they own everything, but why should we penalize them for being so rich and successful?
So obviously, the reason that we should encroach upon the rich people's rights in this case is because they've accumulated that wealth unfairly and because they're using that amassed wealth in a way that's detrimental to the public good.
The market's never going to correct itself, so Trump has to step in to use the government to make sure that the individual little person has a fair shot.
But if you accept that, then why stop there?
Insurance is a pretty fucked up market that's totally out of control and not serving the public good.
So how about a president just wave a magic wand and fix it with an executive order?
Student debt loan debt is bullshit.
Payday loans are a criminal racket.
And tons of companies get away with treating their employees like shit.
If you think the president could just ban institutional investors from buying homes, then there's no reason to think that they can't do all this other shit too.
And basically, we're doing this, then we're communist, right?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
All of Alex's forefathers in the John Birch Society would call this flagrant communism.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Trump saying what investors can and can't invest in?
The fuck.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, and it would be the barest attempt by any of the other fucks to just be like, hey, maybe let's put a cap on how much we can get fucked by billionaires would lead to these fucks going absolutely insane.
What?
He's wearing a tan suit.
Like, it would be insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, there would be blood and tyrants at everybody's kindergarten.
jordan holmes
The tea party started because rich people were under threat for five seconds.
dan friesen
This is nonsense.
To imagine that someone with Alex's political set could be like, oh, yeah, but it's unfair the way that the housing market exists.
And so the government should dictate terms.
Like, okay, fine.
Food, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
Like, once you start, guess what?
I own everything.
I will take your lunch.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
So anyway, Trump's also taken over defense contractors.
jordan holmes
That's great.
thomas sisca
I mean, the other Trump truth about the defense contractors, I thought it was pretty big.
alex jones
The United States Defense Company.
Tell me about that.
thomas sisca
Yeah.
So President Trump is saying, all United States defense contractors and the defense industry as a whole, beware.
While we make the best military equipment in the world, no other country is even close.
Defense contractors are currently issuing massive dividends to their shareholders and massive stock buybacks at the expense and detriment of investing in plants and equipment.
This situation will no longer be allowed or tolerated.
Also, executive pay packages in the defense industry are exorbitant and unjustifiable given how slowly these companies are delivering vital equipment to our military and ours.
alex jones
Let's be clear.
Why can Russia three times outproduce using munitions?
It's because they don't let anybody have a profit in that.
That's a critical national security.
jordan holmes
I'm sitting on that.
dan friesen
These guys sound like fucking wild.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Wow.
I didn't realize how above board Russian defense contractors were.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's the gold standard.
jordan holmes
Can't believe it.
Can't believe it.
dan friesen
Also, like, what the fuck is going on?
They're just reading the president's tweets on the show as if they're binding statements of policy.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
And again, should this be okay?
I'm for it, but I'm a dirty leftist who thinks the government has a role to play in limiting the power of corporations.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex is a free market guy, but apparently businesses can't make a profit off selling weapons.
Trump tweeted this shit out, and immediately the stock for the big defense contractors started dropping.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Then a little bit later, he tweeted, quote, I've determined that for the good of our country, especially in these very troubled and dangerous times, our military budget for the year 2027 should not be $1 trillion, but rather $1.5 trillion.
And just like that, the big defense contractors' stock started going up again.
Got to imagine someone made a lot of money off that.
unidentified
Kind of blatantly and brazenly corrupt.
jordan holmes
I've been criticized for having somewhat anarchic views in the past.
But I feel like I've received a lot less criticism lately.
dan friesen
And I've been accused.
I think I've rightly been accused of being somebody who is in favor of a state.
unidentified
Generally.
jordan holmes
Generally speaking.
dan friesen
I think it takes very little to convince me that a state is necessary and good for the welfare of people.
jordan holmes
The burden of proof is on the non-stateless, is on the stateless.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm wobbly.
jordan holmes
Tough.
Soft yes encompasses a lot lately.
Food Pyramid Debate 00:14:58
dan friesen
Oh, no.
So, look, there's a lot of news.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex, he wants to talk about the big stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, did you hear about what Kennedy did?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
What did he do?
dan friesen
He made a new food pyramid.
jordan holmes
I hate all of you.
alex jones
What about the food pyramid?
Let's get that video ready.
Which is a great food pyramid.
You got broccoli and chicken and cheese and beef at the top.
And then you've got, you know, other vegetables and fruits and avocado.
And then way down at the bottom, you have whole grains.
They've literally flipped it the way it's supposed to be.
thomas sisca
There was actually.
alex jones
This is beautiful.
thomas sisca
There's actually an old South Park episode where they, that was the whole premise is that Eric Cartman has a vision from Aunt Jemima, and she says, they lied, child.
It's the pyramid.
The pyramid.
They lied.
And then he has a vision.
The pyramid turns upside down.
And that solves the whole crisis that they were in.
dan friesen
Something that I find endlessly fascinating about folks like Alex and the people who work for him is their inability to understand fiction, but specifically Cartman.
There's something about Cartman that shuts their brains off.
And I think a big part of it is that they're jealous of his freedom.
He's an asshole who's wrong about pretty much everything.
And the rest of the kids just have to put up with him.
They wish that they could be so loudly racist, sexist, and generally a piece of shit without everyone just deciding, I don't want to talk to you anymore.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
In the real world, Stan and Kyle would stop hanging out with Cartman.
But in the TV world of South Park, the rational people are forced to deal with that asshole for the sake of plot and conflict.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
On a level I think they can't even express, they love Cartman and covet what he has, but they also kind of get that he sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The show is so clear that he sucks and yet they love him and see something aspirational and it makes them unable to see.
Like, do you think that Cartman is the vehicle of truth about the food pyramid?
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
This unhealthy boy?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This is how they're going to convey this.
This makes this makes sense.
jordan holmes
It is.
It is a, I would say it's a thing that most people I have found to disagree with politically have in common is an inability to interpret fiction as a language only as something that they can then have.
You know, like, I have this thing that was made for me, and so I can make it whatever the fuck I want, as opposed to somebody has made something and a way of opening a conversation with me.
You know, we are both together creating this as we go forward.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Instead of understanding that there's a validity to your experience of the art as well as the art outside of your experience.
And what does that say about like how you experience it?
The interplay of this is what is interesting.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And yeah, I do, I agree.
I think that, but it's, it's also to a man, they don't get Cartman.
jordan holmes
I agree.
I agree.
unidentified
I think it's, I think it's there is a there is a secret there.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're you're totally right.
dan friesen
I think there's something about Cartman that, like they like people like Alex and and his milieu, they see um, like the consequences of his actions, like people being like you suck yeah, and they feel bad for him yeah, as opposed to like recognizing that he sucks, right.
They feel because they've felt that in their life.
Yeah, they've felt people not want to hang out with them because they won't stop calling them a Jew or whatever right.
jordan holmes
And the problem is it would be fine for them to hang out with themselves, except they don't make anything they're.
Everything they make is trash.
Nothing they do is enjoyable because they exist to make things not fun.
So they want to hang out with all the fun people, but the fun People don't want to hang out with them.
dan friesen
Well, and there's even a whole arc where Cartman gets a girlfriend and she turns into Cartman and he can't stand hanging out with her.
unidentified
Of course.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Because these people don't want that, actually.
They want to annoy the other people.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Listen, I know that you scoffed when I brought up that RFK had made a new food pyramid.
jordan holmes
I did scoff.
dan friesen
And I think that you thought that that was a minor thing.
jordan holmes
I was really hoping it was a minor thing.
dan friesen
Let me see if I can change your mind.
thomas sisca
God damn it.
RFK is telling the public this that, you know, with the grains at the bottom, it's not just any grain.
Most grains are highly processed, covered in preservatives.
Do not eat that.
You know, eat very minimally good quality sourdough and good quality rice.
And, you know, that's at the bottom of the pyramid.
That's not something that you're eating for your main sustenance.
So that's a huge step in the right direction to reverse the course and all the diabetes that's beautiful.
alex jones
You'll say, oh, you're cheerleaders.
Yeah, this is light years better than Democrats.
Can you imagine what would happen if a Kamala was in right now?
thomas sisca
Well, this is, you know, we've been saying the golden age.
This is starting to look like it.
jordan holmes
Is it?
dan friesen
Can you imagine the horror of what Harris would have done with the food pyramid if she'd won?
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
I got chills thinking about it.
Like, she'd probably replace vegetables with human babies.
jordan holmes
I can't think of a worse lesser of two evils than who would do better at the food pyramid.
unidentified
I think I, I mean, I'm convinced.
dan friesen
I'm so the opposite.
jordan holmes
You know, I would prefer, personally, to live in like a North Korea kind of situation because then I wouldn't even have to bother trying to talk myself into why Fearless Leader is a genius for flipping the food pyramid upside down.
I'd just have to eat different.
I could just be told to eat different.
I wouldn't have to be like, holy shit, what a genius.
He flipped the food fucking pyramid around.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, Alex, like, he's fighting the devil and he knows everything about like secret government programs.
And I just think caring about the food pyramid is a little silly.
And if it's a sign of the golden age, I can't take this seriously.
jordan holmes
Totally.
I mean, the idea of being somebody who is so deferential to power that you would be like fucking jerking them off over a food pyramid, that's too far.
That's too far.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Eat a fucking candy bar.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex moves on from the food pyramid.
jordan holmes
Thank God.
dan friesen
Groundbreaking news.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, I shot somebody.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
But he wants to force BlackRock to sell all their homes that they have.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Fine.
Fine.
Who fucking cares or believes anything?
unidentified
Who gives a shit?
thomas sisca
Exactly.
In the first week of the new year, I'm looking for Trump to keep his BlackRock and State Street and Blackstone to divest of their property.
alex jones
Yeah.
My damny wants to just take it from white people.
No, no, we're going to take it from him, man.
But no, you just got to sell on the market your single-family homes.
thomas sisca
Right.
I mean, I'd imagine there's going to be a mass.
alex jones
I'm going to say give them their own medicine back.
thomas sisca
Yes.
I think there's going to be a mass.
alex jones
That way, black people, white people, whoever can buy the damn house.
thomas sisca
They're not people.
alex jones
You want some welfare distribution.
How about that?
unidentified
Oh, no.
alex jones
Because you know it's BlackRock and all them funding all this communism.
How about we want your planned economy?
We'll give it to you.
thomas sisca
Well, I can't wait to hear Larry Fink's response to all this.
dan friesen
Larry Fink did come out with a comment about this, which was to clarify that he has nothing to do with Blackstone.
So it was weird that social media people were taunting him about this story.
jordan holmes
It does feel very strange.
dan friesen
So no need to wait any longer, young Thomas.
jordan holmes
Would require some sort of mass grouping of people who can't tell the difference between rock and stone.
dan friesen
I think I'm going to label Thomas a squire.
jordan holmes
Thomas the Squire?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Young Thomas.
jordan holmes
Squire Thomas?
dan friesen
Young Thomas is too much like young Jamie, which is what Rogan called his Google guy.
Sure.
So I need something else that's pejorative and makes him sound young.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Squire seems to work.
jordan holmes
Squire sounds good.
I wouldn't mind that.
dan friesen
We'll workshop it.
We may never see him again.
jordan holmes
It wouldn't bother me.
dan friesen
So just to be clear, Alex believes that Trump needs to bring in a police state in order to stop the globalists from bringing in a police state.
And he needs to enforce a planned economy to stop the globalists from enforcing a planned economy.
And he seems angry in a way that's too transparently racist.
But none of this makes sense.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
If you have an opposition to a planned economy or a police state, the solution is not preemptive planned economy or police state.
jordan holmes
It doesn't seem to make sense.
dan friesen
That kind of tells me that those are just the things you want.
jordan holmes
I mean, the fact that we're so fucking scrambling to the point where I think black rocks should have to die blessed with shit kind of tells you exactly how much that lady got murdered.
That lady was murdered.
dan friesen
Very much does not want to take calls about it.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
It's glaring.
The amount that he said he was going to take calls and the amount he's talking to Thomas.
Yeah.
It's an indication of, I don't want to do that.
jordan holmes
I don't want to have to face the music.
dan friesen
And then he spends like 15 fucking minutes ranting about how black people had it better under Jim Crow and how the Godfather is real and how he wants to play a clip from the Godfather.
And then he has people Google it and try to pull it up and it's really hard for them to find.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Clips of The Godfather are hard for them to find.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, it might not be the varsity squad.
jordan holmes
It doesn't feel like it.
dan friesen
Thomas is there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Thomas is out.
dan friesen
Thomas was on Mike.
jordan holmes
Yeah, oh boy.
dan friesen
He knows who's behind the Google board.
jordan holmes
We're having a rough go.
dan friesen
So anyway, I just have one last clip.
And I think that I think that Alex is trying to say some things.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
alex jones
Now, here's a few clips.
I believe hundreds of these.
Of the UK government saying, we're going to give white people longer sentences and we're going to throw white people in jail and they're doing it.
You pray in front of abortion clinics, three years in jail.
You rape a kid, you're a Pakistani, no jail.
Same thing in Europe, same thing now in Canada.
This is their plan.
So guess who's on the menu is the white people.
That's the left.
That's the ADL.
They're doing it.
They started it.
Yeah, Hitler hunted Jews.
Now the ADL is hunting us.
Sorry, you're at war with us.
We're at war with you now.
We get it.
Want to hear about how Nick Fuentez is bad, but he's not 10% as racist as you.
Your hard on for us is ridiculous.
So you want a war?
You got one.
dan friesen
So none of the clips say the things that he claims.
And it was pretty clear.
unidentified
I think he's clear.
dan friesen
I think he's clear.
jordan holmes
I think he was very clear.
I don't know what those clips are saying, but his claims very accurate.
dan friesen
Do his beliefs.
Yeah.
I think that he's kind of mad being like, hey, I don't hate Jews.
I'm just a white supremacist.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But don't you get it?
jordan holmes
Right.
If you guys play your cards right, you're practically white already.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
This is America.
dan friesen
If you become a Christian, I'll say.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can lie.
Nobody's going to follow up on it.
Just say you're a Christian.
Wear your hat and go to school.
unidentified
Nobody gives a shit.
dan friesen
I think that's, you know, not acceptable.
I think that what we end on is a deeply unacceptable note that we shouldn't allow this kind of thing to be the main.
This should be on hate message boards.
Like, this is where Alex, Alex should be on the Aryan Nations whatever the stormfront.
That's where this belongs.
This is trash.
But even more interestingly, based on and judged by his own standards of political belief, this is garbage.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He is advocating for things that are so counter to what the Infowar is supposed to be about.
Yeah.
It's impossible.
It's just impossible.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Unless you start to think about how the racism was what it was really about to begin with.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's the only way anything makes sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's a, I mean, it feels like he's a shit posting kid who has been enabled to the point where we're here.
And like, he's, because he's always been a shit posting kid, nobody's ever forced him to evolve in any sense.
And so whatever we're getting is what we're going to get out of a shit posting kid who's a racist.
dan friesen
But I think, you know, but I think even beyond like not evolving, he's devolving.
Yeah.
I think that I think that it's necessary, though.
Well, he's being presented with a choice of get the racist fruits that you always were trying to sow or cut down this tree because it's growing in ways that you said are demonic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like you, that metaphor doesn't quite work, but you get what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
I get what you're saying.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
Like, maybe the better way of putting it is that he was a kid who got big enough where you have a choice.
You can evolve or you can devolve.
There is no like just staying the same.
Change happens.
And he has just consistently chosen over and over and over again the shittiest path.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, he sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he sucks.
dan friesen
I think that the evolution over the day of the ICE shooting is the point I would say is that there isn't any.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He started with an idea and he justified that idea throughout.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Various people who were in his orbit had different reactions.
Yeah.
But they all ended up in the same place.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
If you are going to describe the goal of the show as to render all of your emotions towards the shooting inert, regardless of what you may philosophically feel about it, if your emotions are completely neutralized, especially if you're an Infowars listener, then tomorrow's a different day.
No one gives a shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The most that Alex wants anyone to feel is, it's a shame.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
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jordan holmes
Well, you know, she shouldn't have been shot, but she also shouldn't have done the stuff that got her shot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the whole goal.
dan friesen
It's dangerous out there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, we will be back to see how Alex continues to discuss.
jordan holmes
Fuck us over.
dan friesen
And we find if there is a bottom or not, spoiler that there's not.
Nope.
But until we continue that exploration, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do.
It's KnowledgeFight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, woo.
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a first Tim Color.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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