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Jan. 16, 2026 - Knowledge Fight
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#1109: January 4. 2026

In this installment, Dan and Jordan discuss Alex's new understanding of "gunboat diplomacy," and Dan does a bad job of hiding how excited he is about The Bone Temple.

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
Knowledgeparty.com.
It's time to pray.
I have great respect for the knowledge fight.
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
Shang me are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
I need, I need money.
Reddler.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Tandy.
Stop it.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy.
Andy.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the airplane for holding.
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fake 10 colouring.
Like you're just saying, I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
I'm Jordan.
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Oh, indeed we are, Dean.
Jordan.
Dan.
Jordan.
Quick question for you.
What's up?
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
Well, it is January, so as is tradition, you go first.
I guess my bright spot is today.
I would say for the first time in a while, I finally feel like I'm over the sickness.
That's great.
Like, I've kind of still got a little bit in my throat.
I got a little bit in the back of my head, but I was doing my full exercise this morning.
I didn't suddenly go.
So that was great.
I feel back at it.
So you're basically the reverse of I am.
I am now ow.
Right.
Yep.
Congratulations on being.
Awk awk indeed.
Up with the health.
Yeah, I'm feeling, yeah, no, I feel good.
Yeah.
I took my little bandage off my tattoo finally.
Got to watch it.
And you've shown the good people of America the tattoo because I know that some people had wanted to see it.
No, I don't have, I don't do social media.
Yeah, I know, but some people wanted to see it.
I mean, do you want to show people?
I don't know.
It's your body.
It is my body and my choice.
I know that some people online are like, I want to get a look at that piece.
You talk so highly of this artist.
And you're the tat guy.
We'll figure something out.
Okay.
I mean, eventually I feel like we'll see it.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Cool.
All right.
Well, I'm glad you're feeling better.
What do you got with your Haribos?
Well, it is January, so as is tradition, we're going to have to consult this Haribo Advent calendar.
There we go.
Dan eats the bear.
Thank you so much to Zachary for that.
Oh, I apologize.
This is from the band Mermatron.
I like it.
So thank you so much, Mermatron.
Good work, Mermatron.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.
Direct to the point.
And I eat the bear.
You do eat the bear.
And unfortunately, too many of these are just bears.
So we're going to the 16th.
All right.
Here we go.
What do we got?
Different.
Does it?
It is a, oh, it looks like a now and later kind of thing.
Can they do that?
Or a laffy taffy.
It's a gummy laughy taffy.
It's ma'owam.
Ma'oam?
M-A-O-A-M.
I noticed that some of these things are labeled that as like a brand, might be an offshoot brand of Haribo.
All right.
Yeah, but this looks like a happy raspberry.
Interesting.
Is there a joke?
Oh, I gotcha.
Here you go.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Look at you, Mr. Fantastic.
I'm quick.
I'm quick.
Bendy.
I don't see a joke.
But I'm going to open this up and try it.
And here's the part where you vamp.
Then my vamp today is going to be about the traders.
Now, obviously, there's the main traders, the U.S. traders starring the great Alan Cummings, who's fucking killing it, of course.
But also, concurrently, there is the UK Traders with just regular ass people hosted by a woman who is famous in Britain for being a Raven or something.
And I was thinking about the difference between the two of them.
And the great part of the traders in the UK, the real people traders, is that they don't know what they're allowed to do.
You know, they don't understand that there's no real rules yet.
You know, like the people on the U.S. Traders, so many of them have their self-created personas.
It's kind of their job.
Like, who am I?
I'm the person who does this.
This is what I do.
They've played other reality TV shows, so they kind of understand what producers are going to, like, what lines are going to be across this line.
They're aware of editing.
Yep.
And these people are just baby birds.
Just baby birds.
And some of them are there to play the game, but they are not really aware of the reality TV game around the game.
They're not really aware of the like, well, maybe I want to be back on season 20 of the traders, you know?
Yeah, I'm going to launch a brand or I'm going to continue my brand through this appearance.
Yeah, all these U.S. people.
It's a little annoying.
Yeah.
I know that we were talking about it and you were saying you fucking love this Rappaport guy, though.
Fuck off.
You said you're pulling for him?
The worst dude ever.
It is so funny whenever you know.
Like, I knew he was the worst.
And my wife had no idea.
She was like, oh, he's from movies.
And I was like, you're.
And then he is the worst.
When I saw that casting decision, I was like, this is a mess.
What are they doing?
And it lived up to it.
And it was.
So that's fine.
Yep.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's different.
I will give it credit that it is different than all the rest of the gummies and stuff that have been in this.
But I don't care.
Knock in its favor, but otherwise.
Saint Praise.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
And it might be a little bit shorter.
And that is because today is a Monumentous Day.
We got to go see the Bone Temple.
We got to go see a Bone Temple.
Got tickets to the first screening of the Bone Temple.
It's a huge day.
I've been waiting for quite a while for this because I love that 28 Days Later.
You do.
Love that 28 years later.
You do.
Love that Bone Temple.
We're about to find out how much we love the Bone Temple.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that it's really critical that this be decent.
Yeah.
Because I think it could really ruin the first one if it's a mess.
Yeah.
I really think that it's.
But the first one's good enough that I have high hopes.
Yeah.
Yep.
So we'll see eventually when we, you know, future episodes, if I am.
Perhaps my vamp will be very heavily focused on the bone temple.
And how wrong I was for having hope.
But we'll see.
We'll find out.
But until we know, let's do an episode and let's start by saying hello to some new wonks.
That's a great idea.
So first, Rory Magnus, we're proud of your work.
Don't forget the Shy Pot L sauce.
Thank you so much, Jerry.
Policy Wonk.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Next, I too find my phone navigation too convenient to not use, and it has destroyed my sense of direction.
Thank you so much, you're an Iowa Policy Walk.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
And Dan, I saw you.
You're literally above me waiting for the dollop, like right now.
Thank you so much.
You are an Iowa Policy Wonk.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
Yep.
I probably was spotted in the lobby of the boo.
What theater was that?
The Vic?
Was it the Vic?
Sounds like the Vic.
Yeah, I think so.
Well, anyway, I was there.
Yep.
Thank you for seeing me.
We also have a Technocrat in the mix.
So thank you so much to Evan and Brent.
Don't trust Paul.
Thank you so much, Juranio Technocrat.
I'm a policy wonk.
Four stars.
Go honk your mother telling you brilliant.
Someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Shark.
Bomb, Jarjar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
Thank you so much.
Thank you very much.
Also, we can time stamp things a little bit about that sighting because you were also there.
Yes.
But you showed up late.
I did.
So the fact that they didn't say that both of us were there means I was spotted before you arrived.
Right.
When I was just hanging out with Angela Lampsberry and her partner.
Or that it is an enjoyable and exciting experience to see you and a let's hope non-talkaboutable.
I can't imagine that's the case.
I can't imagine.
So today we're going to be talking about January 4th.
This is Alex's Sunday show after Trump has taken Maduro.
Sure.
And obviously it's time that we rationalize this and we live in the world post post regime change.
Sure.
And so Alex starts off the show with that being his main focus.
That's why when Hank Seth came out and a reporter's like, this is like Iraq regime change, he says it's the opposite.
Because the previous regime change was about destabilizing the Middle East and balkanizing it.
The United States wants to go in and have free and fair elections and turn Venezuela of its own power back into the most wealthy country in Latin America.
But you have to know the history.
You have to know the Monroe Doctrine.
You have to know what gunboat diplomacy is.
You have to know the Barbary policy of Thomas Jefferson.
You have to understand all of that to understand this is a no-brainer.
So one thing that anyone listening to Alex's show could not help but notice is that in the past six months or so, he's been constantly making references to Thomas Jefferson and his Barbary Coast precedent.
This is a reference to the Barbary Wars of the early 1800s, where Jefferson sent Marines to fight against pirates in the waters near Tripoli.
The idea is supposed to be that these pirates posed a national security threat.
So Jefferson was within his right to attack and kill them at sea, which is then used as an argument that Trump has the right to do this with the Venezuelan boats.
It was part of the justification of Trump's militaristic action.
Sure.
This idea is combined with references to the Monroe Doctrine, which is a bit convoluted.
The Monroe Doctrine essentially says that the U.S. has control over everything in the Western Hemisphere, so any hostile powers trying to take over countries on our half of the world can be seen as enemies.
This has nothing to do with Jefferson's actions during the Barbary Wars because that was centered around North African states, which are in the Eastern Hemisphere.
Sure.
The point I'm making here is that Thomas Jefferson Barbary War stuff is a talking point, and I'm pretty convinced that he's been told to push this by someone else.
It's not a point that he ever brought up before 2020.
And even then, it was in the context of an interview with a historian talking about Jefferson's actions in the Barbary Wars.
It was not to defend sinking boats.
It was a fun fact back then.
And now this is a piece of information.
And precedent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Typically, when the Barbary Wars were mentioned on Infowars, it was because someone was trying to insist that white people weren't the only ones who ever engaged in slave trafficking.
That context changed on September 4th, 2025, after which point Alex began consistently repeating this new talking point about Jefferson's actions in the Barbary War as a justification for Trump sinking Venezuelan boats.
What I'm getting at here is I don't believe this is organic.
If Alex truly felt like Jefferson's attack on the Barbary pirates justified whatever military actions a president could argue were meant to protect the American people, then it would have come up in conversations about things like the invasion of Granada or Clinton's planned attack on Haiti.
Probably.
I would bet that someone like Roger Stone or General Flynn advised Alex to start justifying the boat attacks using this language because the increase is just too much to be a coincidence.
And he didn't come up with this on his own.
The same thing is happening now more recently with the term gunboat diplomacy.
Alex is starting to use that expression more as a way to justify Trump's belligerent actions against other countries.
Peace through strength was an acceptable maxim to throw out until you had real military actions and overthrows that you needed to spin.
And it feels to me like this appealing to gunboat diplomacy is the way Alex is trying to escalate that.
The problem is that gunboat diplomacy means a number of different things to different people.
For political science types, it usually refers to a country replacing their diplomatic efforts with threats.
So the international agreements that they make aren't based on shared self-interest, but rather on one party knowing that the other will kill them if they violate the agreement.
Or even more to the point, it involves more powerful countries using displays of their superior maritime weaponry as a means of coercing less powerful countries to make those agreements in the first place.
Alex fully understands and opposes this practice, as he's made clear repeatedly about China's actions in the South China Sea.
He cannot actually support the principle of gunboat diplomacy without giving up any reason why he should care about the idea of like China invading Taiwan.
From my position of having listened to a ton of the show, I don't believe that Alex supports gunboat diplomacy as a concept.
But there's a larger issue.
On InfoWars, gunboat diplomacy is not a concept that involves a state intimidating another state using a show of strength.
On Alex's show, the term has a specific meaning, and it is about corporate imperialism.
Here's him explaining this to a caller from April 2004.
Don't you remember gunboat diplomacy over the last 150 years?
If a third world Latin American country didn't let our corporations basically own them, how the Marines would be landed and they'd burn whole cities down.
You never read about that?
Not a lot of history now.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, our troops would burn entire cities all over Latin America.
And that's history.
And they didn't even say they were commies back then.
Oh, their commies were going to kill them.
They would just go in, level cities, and say, okay, we run things and appoint a dictator.
Go ahead.
Huh.
The way Alex is using the term gunboat diplomacy in 2026 doesn't match how he's always used it in the past.
In the past, the term has always meant something specific.
The only context Alex ever used the term gunboat diplomacy is captured here in this clip from 2011.
I briefly wanted to point this out that growing up, you know, you're taught in school and college that third worlders are a bunch of idiot savages, basically.
I mean, it's done with a velvet glove, but oh, those people, they just can't get themselves together.
And ha ha ha.
Well, that's not what's going on.
The colonial areas of Latin America, Africa, and Southern Asia and other areas have been overrun by the more advanced technological militaries of the West repeatedly in the last 300 years.
And systems of tyranny are put in.
And then the last hundred years, and this is mainline history if you research it.
This is not my opinion.
And major white papers were written by the British government.
The U.S. government deployed gunboat diplomacy where they would give a dictator or give a thug, say in Venezuela or Guatemala.
This goes back over 100 years, the U.S. They give them a $20 million loan.
And openly, it would come out and tell them, don't pay this back.
Leave in one year with the money to Switzerland or to New York.
That's why you have a lot of Mexican presidents actually move to New York after they steal a bunch of money.
Just a few decades ago, that happened or in the mid-90s.
So it's the same system, or they go to Switzerland.
That's kind of the place where they nest, and it's a free zone they allow.
And so, and then the public's told, well, with interest, it's been 10 years.
You don't owe us 20 million in 1905.
You owe us 300 million.
And the country says, you know, back then, that was before the inflation we have.
It was the equivalent of 300 billion or something.
They said, we don't even make that in 20 years.
We can't pay it.
Oh, that's fine.
From the shores of Montezuma, from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli.
And the Marine Corps top general, two-time Congressional Medal of Honor winner, Smedley Butler, finally quit and went public and said, look, it's all about money.
These people don't owe it.
We invade them.
In Infowars language, gunboat diplomacy refers to the practice of the IMF and World Bank giving corrupt leaders in struggling countries huge debts that they know can never be repaid.
The leader plays ball and gets to be rich in Switzerland, but they've sold out their country, which goes broke because of their inability to pay the loan, at which point the globalists come in and buy up all their infrastructure.
If their leader doesn't play ball, we send in the Navy and the military.
This was the only context Alex ever used the term until December 2025.
After that point, he started using it to mean the more traditional definition of the expression, which is to use military and particularly naval intimidation to force American foreign policy objectives.
And he started presenting this as a positive thing that is good that Trump is getting back to.
If Alex thinks the U.S. should impose its will on the rest of the Western hemisphere through murder and threats of wars, then he should just say that.
He probably feels like he can't because he spent so much of his career pretending to love freedom and hate empires, but he needs to get over that hurdle.
This is just bullshit.
I understand that no villain ever really just comes out and says, hey, I'm the bad guy.
But if you pay any attention to Alex, notice the language that he's using, the way things are changing, he's sending the message pretty fucking clear.
It does seem pretty obvious.
Yeah.
Almost stark in its alteration, making it even clearer.
You know, like at least, again, but that's what makes him so much better than everybody else is he doesn't bother with subtlety.
No.
No.
You want me to say this?
Now I'm going to say it all the fucking time.
And I always did.
I always said it.
Sure, you can see a transcript of everything that I've said for the past 30 years and I didn't say it.
Right.
But didn't I, though?
Have you seen the white papers?
Ah, Montezuma.
See, what's wrong is that I should have said it back then.
So why don't we moving forward just assume I did say it back then?
See, that makes more sense.
It's cool.
Yeah.
I find this to be sloppy on his part, and I don't think he should use these expressions that have loaded histories for himself.
Yeah.
But, oh well.
It's funny to me how many different expressions we have to just avoid saying extortion.
Yes.
Yep.
We want your shit.
We are going to take it.
That's the end of this story.
How do you want this conversation to go is up to you.
We can use however many euphemisms you like.
Yeah.
We got things that go boom.
Absolutely.
And you are susceptible to things going boom.
Let me try and explain this.
It's illegal when the mob does it, but we're a country.
Yeah.
So Trump, he is going to get in there and he is going to fucking run this Venezuelan shit.
He's going to be so good.
And it's so in line with Alex's beliefs.
Like, you can't even believe it.
That's nice.
And if you look at every point, richest oil country in the world.
Production down 95%.
The communists just can't even run anything.
They're people starving to death.
Absolute hell.
Trump doesn't have to spend U.S. money.
The oil companies will go in.
He oversees it.
He makes them redistribute the majority of the wealth to the people.
You've already seen him do that policy-wise here.
Where he told oil companies when he got an eargo, he said, all right, you're not really getting any profits.
National security, slash prices, basically increase production.
You got the Saudis increase production at the same time.
Because he said, I want to help the whole world.
We have to lower inflation globally, which is true.
If you pay attention to Alex, you cannot possibly believe that he believes anything.
Every single thing about his political ideology should strongly oppose Trump telling oil companies how to do business.
The idea that Trump could tell companies how to manage supply and demand so he can manipulate prices is a state-run economy, which is a critical piece of what he's supposed to hate about communist countries like China.
Trump telling oil companies to slash their prices and that they can make no profits is a horrible transgression of what Alex's worldview is supposed to be based on.
But he can pretend Trump is doing it and he reports that to the audience as a positive because he knows that even his audience kind of wants socialist-leaning policies, even if they don't know the words.
Everyone except people who profit from oil companies hate oil companies.
Everyone except people who profit from insurance companies hate insurance companies.
Everyone kind of gets that the game is rigged and the smug libertarian contrarianism of the late and mid-2000s, it isn't fun for teens anymore.
So no one's doing it.
It's not edgy to be that libertarian dork.
Nah, you got to go full Nazi if you want that.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's easier.
It is so much easier.
Yeah.
The kid who probably would have been like, I read the Mises website.
Like, that kid's just racist now.
Yep.
He doesn't have to try.
Yeah.
That's the good stuff.
This stuff that Alex is saying, like, in that clip, it isn't true.
But even if you pretend that it is, he should declare war on Trump for doing it.
Yeah, absolutely.
He should be horrified.
Yeah, you know, it is something that has become more and more clear in our present time that I misunderstood how the world works based on how words work, right?
Like, to me, a principle was only really confirmed when it sucked.
That whole idea of free speech, protect speech you hate.
You know what?
Speech you like.
Fuck me.
It sucks to do this.
But it's a principle, so I have to, right?
It feels like that is something that other people did not particularly find interesting.
Like every time people find a principle and they're like, oh, it sucks to have this principle right now, they just change it.
True.
And I think that a lot of the people who are busy off changing their principles are a lot of the people who would rant and crow at you about how principles are only important when they're inconvenient.
Sure, I would love for kids to be safer in schools, but what about the guns?
Oh, what about the guns?
What if we encroach on the right of people to have guns?
We can't.
Yeah.
So fucking principled.
Yeah.
So fucking principled.
I think that is a form of gaslighting that did exist on a large scale for most of our lives.
Yeah.
It's bullshit.
Yeah, because it is something that I'm listening to him talk and it's like, I guess, I guess people will listen to the reasons, maybe, I guess, and think like, oh, this is a good reason to do this thing.
But in my head, it's like, oh, you can give me all the reasons you want, but you can't do the thing.
So because you did the thing, none of your reasons mean anything to me.
You fucked up.
Right?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, there's probably some edge cases where somebody does something that you instinctively think and maybe know is wrong, and then you could be persuaded by reasons.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Like, there may be some cases like that.
But yeah, generally, the actions are, you know, it's pretty tough to justify when the action is the action.
Yeah.
Sorry, man.
Yeah.
Weird.
Through those actions that Trump is taking, there is an argument that could be made, I believe, that the rules are changing.
International rules changing to the point of non-existence, maybe?
Well, and so Alex celebrates this return to chaos.
Okay.
So, by Trump grabbing $18 trillion in oil that's now on the U.S. ballot sheet, and that's damn right what it is.
What do you think we did until the globalist era after World War II?
You think the U.S. didn't go around grabbing stuff before?
Think we didn't grab Cuba from Spain and then turn around and give it to them?
But as long as they let us have a military base there for God, I mean, the U.S. has been the partner to have that won't screw you over and let you run things just don't screw us until the end of World War II and then the CIA and we become globalists and then all the things that came out of it because we're working for globalist interest, British Empire interest, New World Order interest, not the people's interest.
But if you think in this world that we can have our country and just hide in it and can't be engaged or can't be involved, well, I got a bridge I'm happy to sell you.
So we're going back to U.S. policy here.
The bridge that he's sold you is his career.
Yeah.
Like he's already done it, if anyone is listening.
You've actually purchased quite a few bridges over the years.
Yeah, the InfoWarriors.
Good for you.
So this is a fine position for Alex to have.
And I want to be clear that I respect him saying it explicitly.
I wholeheartedly disagree with his position.
And I think it's delusional to pretend that this doesn't just benefit giant corporations and tyrants, but I think it's closer to what Alex sincerely supports.
In 2008, when he was trying to boost his career by latching onto Ron Paul supporters who were mostly mad about the war, do you think he would have said anything like that?
Not getting involved in foreign wars was a central piece of the messaging back then, so Alex pushed that.
Alex was positioned against the system, and regardless of whether Bush or Clinton or Obama was in office, they were representatives of the system and they were doing the wars.
It's super easy to be opposed to their wars and then convince your audience that you're principally opposed to all war and you're not.
Make no mistake about it.
Alex built his career on the illusion that he was opposed to things like colonialist adventure and regime change because of principles that he believed in about things like freedom, sovereignty, and non-interventionism.
He presented himself as the alternative to the hawks like Rush Limbaugh and the Fox News crowd.
And without that fiction, he never would have been able to sell himself to a larger audience.
People who weren't extreme right-wingers and racists were drawn to him because they were pissed the fuck off about the Iraq war, and he was giving them a message that they could get behind, and it seemed to transcend politics.
People like Tucker would get in their bow ties and argue on TV about how Bush was right to attack Iraq and Afghanistan, but Alex told the audience that you were more likely to get struck by lightning than ever meet a terrorist and that the war was being sold to you on false pretenses.
The people who were pissed off about the war agreed with that.
And because Alex was saying it, it made him look like he was more honest than his competitors.
But how many of the people who marched with no blood for oil signs would have gotten on board with Alex saying that the U.S. should take stuff and plunder freely, like how things were before the World War II international order?
How seriously could any of these people ever have taken him if his argument against the war wasn't that it was happening, but he didn't like the people benefiting from it?
The argument for why the globalists are bad is supposed to be that they do bad things, like carry out regime change wars in order to steal resources.
By accepting and celebrating Trump doing the exact same thing, Alex has in effect removed the whole reason to oppose them.
Because the guy who made millions of dollars as the anti-system guy now has to be a cheerleader for the system, he can no longer keep up the shredded that any of the stuff that he used to care about matters.
The principles he used to mask as his mask, they're all destroyed.
And what's left of it is the shit that was there all along and was the real motivating factor, which is white nationalism, Christian identity, protection of business interests over people, and colonialist exploitation of Uyghur countries' natural resources.
Yeah.
It's really what this is all about.
Yeah.
What a weird, what a weird team to join.
What a weird team to have secretly been on.
Right?
Yeah.
What a, yeah.
It feels like it wasn't worth it.
But maybe I, I mean, just going by everything that he's done, said how he's lived, all the things that I know about him, I would say it's not worth it.
But, you know, maybe somewhere in his head it was.
At least Alex finally freed the children.
Yes, that is nice.
That was nice of him.
Fucking prick.
Yeah, no, I find his, it's this weird mix of fuck you.
And also like, thanks.
Thanks for just saying this.
Yeah.
Like, kind of no.
There is, there was, uh, there was the part that was annoying in like, you know, 05, 06, where it's like, oh, we're, we're helping the people of Iraq.
We're, we're there for the people.
It's because Saddam is evil and we're there for the people.
But man, they didn't even give him that one.
They didn't even give us that one.
They were just like, buddy, we're going to steal their oil.
Yeah, but now it's in reverse.
Right.
Like, what's happening is essentially, you know, Trump is immediately being like, oh, that oil is going to be a lot of fun.
I'm going to steal it.
I'm going to steal their stuff.
I'm stealing their stuff.
And now, as a part of rationalizing that, it's Alex's job to explain to the audience.
It is good for the people for us to steal all of their stuff.
We're going to give the money to the people of Venezuela.
They're going to be great.
That sounds true.
Right.
Based on things we've done in the past.
It's just a silly mirror of the exact same shit.
Yep.
Same kind of excuses and arguments being made.
It's just the main difference that we've experienced so far is that there isn't like a giant insurgency that's happening right now in Venezuela.
Yeah.
Although who knows what happens down the road.
Yeah, exactly.
So anyway, Alex immediately, like yesterday on this show, he was like, Trump looks at this shit and he's like, I could build a lot of hotels down there.
Because he's a hospitality guy.
So great, right?
He's a hospitality guy.
Yeah.
And so some people laughed at him about that.
Sure.
Because it was crazy.
Yes.
And now he's a little defensive about how people were making fun of him.
I've also seen, I'll get to this because it's not about me, but it's an example of propaganda.
All these big Democrat talk show hosts taking a club out of context yesterday, like a 30-second club, where I'm saying Trump loves to see golf courses and Trump towers and everybody happy and a future for his kids.
And that got translated into Trump's doing this so he has Trump golf courses and towers and so his kids can make billions.
No, I explained how when he went and met with Kim Jong-un and showed him a video graphic of look how wealthy South Korea is.
You can be that way with all these factories and businesses and golf courses and hotels.
And Kim Jong-un reportedly cried and said, China won't let me.
Oh my God.
I was explaining Trump doesn't like war.
He likes prosperity.
So hospitality, man, he doesn't like plunging economies.
That's not good for business.
But the headline is: Jones can't wait for corporations to loot Venezuela and fantasizes about Don Jr. Making millions.
He didn't say Don Jr. didn't list a company, none of that.
Trump said, we're going to go in there and get their people production up and get them jobs and get them their money.
Is that what he said?
And we've seen him do that with no tax on tips.
And all the other things he's done to try to every policy is what he does.
And the Democrats try to stand in the way of that.
So Alex did literally say that Trump looks at a country like Venezuela and just sees the potential to build Trump hotels and golf courses there.
He can pretend this was taken out of context all he wants, but he's fucking lying.
It was on our last episode.
Larger issue, though, the explanation of the context here that Alex is doing doesn't make it better.
Alex is just explaining that Trump likes to do whatever works best for corporate interests, and he demands on getting a cut himself.
Everything Alex brings up is an example of something that's meant to benefit the corporations, including the no tax on tips thing.
It's great for working people not to have to pay tax on tips, but that's also part of a larger negotiation that involves employers not having to pay tipped positions fair base wages.
It looks like a huge win for the workers when you only consider the no tax on tips part.
But when you look at the bigger picture, this is a perfect pressure release valve for the corporations to continue making more money.
Yep.
They don't have to pay their tipped employees anything more than they did before, but the employee theoretically walks home with more money.
Collected tax revenue goes down, but the business makes the same amount.
Consider that the alternative to this would be raising the minimum wage for tipped employees, and you can see how no tax on tips is a program that's friendly to workers, but even more so to corporations.
Currently, the federal minimum wage for tipped workers is $2.13.
They're allowed to use $5.12 of any tips that they make as credit towards a $725 an hour minimum wage.
So in some ways, you could look at any shift as starting about $5 in the hole that you need to work off to your boss.
Only six states in Guam require tipped employees to be paid their state's normal minimum wage, while 15 use the federal minimum of $2.13.
No tax on tips is good for the workers in a direct sense, but the reason that someone like Trump or Alex can support it is because they understand that compared to the alternative, this is a very good option for big business.
Also, I'm not the person to get super into the weeds about this, but Trump shit can only apply to federal taxes, so tips can still be taxed at a state level, and companies can still apply payroll taxes to some forms of tips.
And there's a $25,000 cap.
So it's not as worker-friendly as this catchphrase name is meant to imply.
Sure.
Anyway, I agree with Alex's motivation in that clip.
He was speaking a bit too loosely in the previous few days about his excitement for Trump resorts on conquered lands.
So he's probably feeling like he needs to moderate that a little bit.
Sure.
And I get that.
I agree with that motivation.
It's a smart move.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, there's being a worm tongue and then there's being a straight-up toady.
You know, at least the worm tongue gets to whisper in, you know, King WhatsApp's face's ear and be like, ah, but man, if you're just like, it's okay if he steps on my nose.
I like it.
If bleeding makes your nose bigger and stronger.
He secretly loves me.
Absolutely.
And sometimes, sometimes I whisper his name in the dark and I bet he hears me.
Yeah, like at least worm tongue, like you can be seen with the king.
Yeah.
The king, you're right behind him.
And worm tongue gets him in the end.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's different.
He's not getting worm tongue talent.
Yeah.
Nope.
So anyway, Alex, I think, just wants Trump to just fucking take over everything.
Sure.
Trump said, we're returning to the Monroe doctrine and the model used by William McKinley.
And if foreign powers are projecting their power into our hemisphere and setting up states and governments to manipulate our internal operations, we are going to smash your ass.
You know how many times we've gone into Latin America and to Mexico before World War II?
Hundreds of times.
Because of foreign powers coming in trying to manipulate and control.
We built the Panama Canal.
We had it for eternity in the deal.
Carter signed it away.
Obama finished it.
Trump came in with headset and told Panama, hey, the ChiComs are pushing in.
Make a deal with us or we're going to come in.
They said, nope, we'll push the commies out.
Come right in, please.
And Trump said, good, we'll invest $500 billion.
How's that sound?
Weird.
Sounds chill and cool.
Alex should tell his audience the truth.
Like, Trump made a lot of noise last year about how Chinese companies ran ports around the Panama Canal and how that wasn't good for American national security.
This involved a Hong Kong-based company called C.K. Hutchinson Holdings, who owned controlling interest over these ports.
Trump demanded a shake-up, so C.K. Hutchinson ended up agreeing to sell their interest in these ports for $22.8 billion.
The group that ended up with buying that controlling interest is a consortium that's run by BlackRock.
That seems like it should be relevant to Alex because they're one of his big villains.
Nah.
Weird.
Nah, I mean, it seems fine.
It's almost as though it didn't really matter too much for national security interests as it did for who's friends with whom at what point in time.
No, yeah.
And yeah, I mean, I think that it's obviously very easy because they both start with the word black.
But like, the way that Alex was able to make friends with Eric Prince, who ran Black Water after they have been the huge villains in the Iraq war era.
Sure.
Kind of, I think we're going to see the same thing with BlackRock.
It does.
Because Trump works with them and is totally cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, once you've established yourself as evil, fucking go for it.
Murder the younglings.
Once you've done that, once you're already there, fucking, I'm Darth Vader.
I don't give a shit.
Oh, I murdered younglings.
Buddy, I'm well past that, right?
What are we doing with this?
Like, oh, is it okay for BlackRock?
I think you can only really have the confidence to do that if your boss can shoot lightning.
And this is something that you keep forgetting.
I mean, it helps.
It definitely helps.
I think morale, or at least like following the leader, it's inspired by lightning out of the hands.
Yeah, I mean, you know, we give Trump a Tesla coil.
We give him a big enough one.
I bet that sounds like enough.
Give that asshole a musk coil.
I mean, listen, did you see the weather a couple of days ago?
I'm willing to go with weather weapons at this point.
I'm willing to accept that that sleet storm that just popped up out of nowhere, that's fucking real.
That's weather weapons.
Sure.
So, you know, like some sort of pulse.
Why not?
All right.
Angels don't play that harp.
No, they don't.
So Maduro's been arrested.
He's taken to New York.
Weird.
And Alex has fantasized a little bit here about how he's going to flip.
But the fact that Maduro is in one law enforcement custody.
And you know that they are going to be meeting with him.
You know, it's already happening and saying, look, give us the networks, give us the groups.
They already have his former intelligence chiefs and others.
And confirm this, go public, and you can walk.
And it will dismantle completely the Democrats money laundering operation.
And then if Trump can get a real AG in and some real people to actually prosecute, this is the death blow.
See, we kind of have to understand is Alex's framing of this relies on his understanding of gunboat diplomacy.
He fantasizes about this idea that Trump will have Maduro in custody and he'll be able to intimidate him into pointing the finger at his political enemies.
And if you agree to this deal, we will let you out of prison and you can be rich in Switzerland.
Maybe even.
That's how it works.
That's what Alex is fantasizing about.
Is that Trump would use Maduro in order to roll over on the people that he needs to take power away from.
And I think it's pretty obvious.
You know, I was thinking about this, right?
And I think the story of the Emperor Has No Clothes has been misunderstood for its actual power, right?
Now, you say, oh, the emperor has no clothes, and then the kid laughs at him.
But I say instead, the emperor walks around naked with his dick swinging around and then hires a bunch of people to scream at you that he's wearing clothes.
And then if you say anything about him not wearing clothes, he murders you.
Now, that is a good emperor has no clothes story.
Well, you know how, like, I think, you know, you watch movies from, like, the 90s and stuff, and it's like, well, this whole plot would be solved by a cell phone.
Like, if there just were cell phones, this is not an issue.
Yeah, that's definitely true.
And I think that the emperor has no clothes.
I think it's hurt by the fact that there's no media.
Yeah, if the emperor has a propaganda network, he doesn't even need clothes.
Yeah.
Like, I think that it's one thing to have, like, oh, yeah, there's a lot of people who are going along with the, you know, the fiction that the emperor has cool clothes.
Yeah.
But, like, if you had an internet.
Yeah.
No, if you could 3D print a new Humpty, fuck that nursery rode.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let him fall all he wants.
I'll make a new one.
Yeah.
Tomorrow.
Yeah.
And I think that we need new lessons.
We have to start doing our nursery robes are useless.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I think that I talked to.
That lady has to live in that shoe.
That's the only place she can afford, man.
That's where we're at.
I've talked a bit about how like Alex's world kind of requires a new Bible.
Yeah.
And I think that our world also now requires new nursery rhymes.
Yeah.
We need a new Aesop.
We need a new Brother Grimm.
Just a series of reasons to stay off the internet.
That's what we need.
There's a witch.
Exactly.
If you get on the internet, you'll get eaten.
Next one.
If you get on the internet, you'll get fucking bitten by a wolf.
Next one.
Somebody's going to chop your head off.
Next one.
Finding, like, accidentally finding sex criminals or Nazis or all the things that are on the internet apparently isn't scary enough.
Not enough.
Not enough.
Yeah, we need to create a monster.
Yep.
That's what's going to happen.
But then it's going to get Slenderman.
We're going to get Slenderman.
Yeah.
That's what's going to happen.
Fuck.
Yeah.
So if the globalists were doing this, taking over Venezuela, they would just give that oil to China.
Whereas Trump is good.
Sure.
Because he's taking it.
That makes sense.
And then he's going to give it back.
That makes sense.
If this was a normal globalist operation, they'd go in there.
We can't get Iraq and then China's giving the oil fields.
With Trump, everything he goes and does literally is maximized to pump as much money into the average person's pockets as possible.
Because Trump understands his hospitality, man.
If the little guy ain't making money, you're not going to have the infrastructure to spin yours.
Henry Ford was the guy that innovated this.
He said, I'm going to pay my employees three times what other car companies do.
I'll have all the best workers and I'll give them discounts on Ford vehicles.
And then almost every employee bought the vehicles.
Yeah.
That's grow the pie model, not the great reset, make everybody poor model.
Not the new world order communist model, but the American model.
Not the only thing that Trump and Henry Ford have in common.
I was going to say, there's quite a few things about that.
For real, though, this is an insane level of bootlicking that almost can't be put on a chart.
The way that Alex is justifying Trump's geopolitical military actions relies on assuming a super corrupt but benevolent motivation from a business standpoint, and that alone should be a problem.
Yeah.
If Trump is kidnapping world leaders and seizing oil fields, that should be bad.
But he's doing it because he wants everyone to have a bunch of money.
So that should be good.
But he wants everyone to have money because he's a hospitality guy who only makes money if everyone has money to spend.
So that kind of makes his motives look suspicious again.
It's good to want people to have money and be able to afford things in life.
But if your reason for wanting that is so you can sell them things, then your ability to afford something is really a means to an end that this person is after, which is them selling you things.
It's great to give people more money so they can afford to buy, you know, raising wages.
What's even more effective than that is giving them company bucks and selling them all the things that they, that's super efficient.
It is, it's so great.
You could raise their wages so high when that money is just coming right back to you.
Yeah.
It's great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It would be, you know, it feels like at the very least, right, Caesar could be like, hey, listen, I will bring back plunder.
I'm just going to plunder shit and I'll have too much.
I don't have a place to store it.
So you'll get some.
Now it's all in the cloud.
Like it's on the screen.
You can't get any of that.
He's plundering all this shit and then just keeping it on a screen.
You're not getting a little fucking jewel from Carthage or whatever.
You're getting shit.
Nothing.
It's just on a screen, man.
Brutal.
Remember NFTs?
Doing the thing that was going to last forever and be super awesome for art?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, if Trump can make 50 bucks by getting you a dollar, he's cool with that.
That's fine.
Yeah.
But if the alternative is him getting 51 bucks and you get 10 cents, he'll always choose that.
He will choose that one 100% as well.
Always.
100%.
So would Henry Ford and so would BlackRock and all the people that Alex fucking loves.
Yep.
Worldview is based on industrialists and rich corporations trying to fleece fucking workers.
Yeah, it's hard not to see very clearly that they exist to exploit the space between labor and profit.
Yes.
And they have no actual value whatsoever.
And it's becoming too transparent now because they're too powerful.
Yep.
So we have one last clip here, and it's Alex how he wants to spend his time on such a, you know, it's the Lord's Day.
It's Sunday.
Absolutely.
Trump has just overthrown Maduro and ended the globalists.
Wow.
So here's where he's at.
We'll get to Heng Seth talking about this being the opposite of destabilization.
This is stabilization in a moment.
But let's look at white liberal women fuming to follow the United States, saying, how dare you violate somebody's sovereignty?
Well, how dare them send their prisoners here and 8 million people displaced?
And how dare them star everybody to death?
And how dare them steal our elections?
How about that?
Got him.
Yeah.
I mean, this show, if like he talks about how God tells him what to do and how he's like the most important person in the world and has shaped the tides of history and stuff.
And like, great.
You should be doing something else with the time then.
You know, the show shouldn't be a meme recap show and you trying to puff your chest out at TikTok videos.
Yeah.
Like that seems incredibly trivial for God's chosen soldier.
It does feel that way.
Yeah.
I mean, there weren't, there weren't a lot of apostles writing stories about Jesus getting into a flame war.
You know, like it was mainly like, hey, I'm going to go to this mountain, give a little talk.
Maybe I'll get into a dust up at the temple, get those assholes out of here.
But at no point in time was there a like back and forth.
Like, uh-uh, how about this one?
Oh, what about this guy?
Yeah.
Even when he's spending the days in the devil in the desert with the devil, nobody's recording that shit.
Yeah, it's too bad they didn't.
We don't want that.
No, because imagine it was probably like a non-stop roast part.
Oh, my God.
They're just nitpicking back and forth.
But like, good lines.
It would have to be literally the best lines in all of history.
Can you imagine if like the devil and Jesus out in the middle of nowhere?
Right.
Like, if that was on Kill Tony, the zingers.
You're right.
I think the world should end.
That is a good point.
You have argued correctly for the end of the world.
I give up.
Anyway, we're doing, you know, this is a little bit of a shorter episode.
And part of the reason is because obviously what comes right after this is the Minnesota shooting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ice shooting.
Shit's going to get real.
Yeah, that's going to take a while.
And the Bone Temple calls.
Yeah.
So I didn't want to have that energy going into the Bone Temple.
I mean, it's hard to want that energy going into anywhere.
Yeah.
I mean, it's something we can't ignore, obviously, and must be dealt with.
But the Bone Temple.
Anyway, we'll be back for that unpleasantness.
But until then, we have a website.
Indeed, we do.
It's not tried to do it.
I think we have a Bone Temple.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
And now here comes the sex robots.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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